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Speaker 1: Met a young lady who was an assistant at our record label. She introduced me around. Next thing I know, I'm sitting in Heavy D's office, sitting here like, oh my goodness, I'm sitting here with Heavy D. And he's like, listen, I need an executive assistant. I'll give you a week and if you last a week, you can have a job.
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Speaker 2: Hey, sodre one, Nancy Redd And this is season four of Mompreneurs, where we celebrate beautiful black entrepreneurs who are.
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Speaker 3: Also amazing moms.
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Speaker 2: Now, every week I'm chatting with my guests about how they are killing it simultaneously as a business model and as a mom.
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Speaker 3: We're listening to.
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Speaker 2: Their inspiring journeys and incredible advice. Now, today we are honored to be joined by a true force in the entertainment and media world. Joy Brown is the CEO of Culture Creators. She's also the former SVP of Marketing Atlantic Records and also the former head of Strategic Partnerships at ICM. Now, through mentorship programming and commune partnerships, Joy is changing the face of leadership and she's celebrating black and brown professionals making sure the pipeline of talent is both deep and diverse. Now she's doing this all while wifing and.
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Speaker 3: Mommying up to twin girls.
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Speaker 2: Joy, I don't know how you have time to even talk to me today, but I am so glad, welcome.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Nancy. This is so excited to be here. I love being a mom and I'm so excited to support and talk about all the things around being an entrepreneur and a mother and a wife and all the things.
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Speaker 2: All the things because you are juggling a lot and you always have been, and you do it so well. But before we get too far into the business side of things, let's get a little bit personal. Who in your life puts the mom in morepreneur? Who's in your household?
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Speaker 1: So I have one of the twins here, Kennedy is here. She goes to school in New Jersey, so she commutes. And my other daughter I've been trying to bribe to come back home to but she is living her best life as a young independent woman in Brooklyn and she goes to college in the city. I love that.
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Speaker 3: So your nest is halfway flown.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And you know, honestly, I've been trying to lure the other one in so I think I'm almost there. You know, she's hinting like maybe I will come home. You know, it's been so nice being able to be on this side of motherhood, in this journey with them, and I just adore the relationship that we have blocked, how it's bloss and into this new relationship.
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Speaker 2: Now, you started this business when they were held How old were they when you started Culture Creators.
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Speaker 1: They must have been.
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Speaker 2: It was twenty sixteen, so that's eight years ago, so they would have been in middle school.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, really I didn't know what I was starting. I just knew that I wanted people to get together, and I knew that there were no conferences, and so I said, hmm, what if we bring people together who I know create culture. And that's how Culture Creators just the name even came about. And so you know them watching me, you know, create flyers and come up with strategy, and you know, seeing me do T shirts by hand and all the things. They have been on his journey with me, block and step.
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Speaker 2: That's so sweet and it's so interesting because so many people, especially moms, start businesses because this is a very purposeful concept to create cash flow to give them some way that can go to their kids' school dinners or you know, all of their different activities.
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Speaker 3: You were working a full time job.
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Speaker 2: You this was just something that you felt a calling to create at the time. You were killing it in the industry.
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Speaker 1: Oh thank you, yeah, you know, I will say. And to be honest, this wasn't my first stab at creating something like this. I actually had created I thought it was going to take off. But it was called The Stakeholders. And it was so interesting because now that I say this out loud, it's the similar concept of culture Creators. The idea was that it was geared towards women, but the idea was that as women we should be stakeholders and each other's success. And so I was bringing women together across different industries to meet one another and talk about like, you know, just meet each other and talk about what are your needs and to lean in on that and make create a safe space for that.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing.
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Speaker 2: So this is also a great example because so many times, myself included, you don't really see the failures, right, you don't see the things that did get law and just see the successes.
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Speaker 3: But you've always wanted to be in business.
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Speaker 2: You've always wanted to create your own entity, even though you had an incredible professional career. Were you always business oriented? Did you have a business as a kid? Did you know the girl with the candy sales?
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Speaker 1: One fact is that I did not think that I was I was into business at all. I did not think that I wanted to be entrepreneur until my sister reminded me, She goes, do you remember in college used to sell pillows and sell them for Valentine's Day? And then my best friend reminded me that I used to cook soul food dinners and sell them out of my dorm room. So I guess I kind of always had this little entrepreneurial bug. But when I got into the music industry, it really I don't think that I necessarily had an entrepreneur bug then, because I really loved what I you know, I loved my job, and I loved working with the talent that I work with. But I just kind of always have been into the service of others and making and you know, doing what I can to make a difference. And so it naturally kind of migrated into this thing where it's become now. But it was It was built off of a passion just you know, a hobby of bringing people together. Because I just knew that once I got people in the room together, that building community wouldn't be so difficult. And I did not know that, you know, having a party at Guilded Lily with these people in the music industry would turn into here now we're about to celebrate ten years and celebrate nine years doing our awards brunch, it would turn into this platform. I had no inkling. I just knew. I was just passionate about people, and I was passionate about making sure that we knew that we are stakeholders and each other's success and that we need one another.
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Speaker 3: I love that.
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Speaker 2: And exactly, you didn't know what you were creating, and you especially did not know that it would become your full time entrepreneurial profession, which is wild, right, Like you, how did this transition happen? How did you go from culture creators as the thing you do to get back to the community. I want to talk all about all the things you do from the brunch to the hundreds of thousands of dollars of scholarships and now it is actually part of your uh, your world is what you do full time.
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Speaker 1: I had it. You have an instinct, right, you have an urge that this is I knew that I was onto something. I remember when I did my first event in New York. All my folks in LA was like, oh my goodness, we couldn't fly in. You gotta do it in LA. And I said, oh, I do have to do it in LA. So then I didn't event during Grammys, and then it was never geared towards artists. It's really about people who are really are behind the scenes driving culture. And I look up and like, Chris Rock is in there, diplos in their skill legs. And it wasn't even like just black people. It was people who were just celebrating what it was were culture. And I was like, okay, this is this is cool, but okay, still had no clue. Still working full time at Atlantic Records, still doing things, still passionate about my job. But then I started listening to people and one of the things that I realize, and I am also a victim of the industry because you spend so much time sacrificing for others dreams. So there are times like you know, I couldn't make it to a parent teacher conference, or my kids needed me for something, or my husband needed me something, or I wanted to be home but I couldn't and I had to work on weekends. And no one sees the sacrifice that goes into building other people's dreams. And then they get on award shows or not that you have to be thanked, but they get on these big stages and your name is not called to thank but you know, maybe you know you picked the choreographer that they just won this. You know they did this huge performance with you know, all the things that you go use sacrifice and research and put behind them to few their dreams. You turn around, you're like, Okay, well, I kind of feel like no one even knows that I exist. And then a large part of who I am is that I work with young people, always mentored, and when I talked to them, they had no idea that there could be a job in the music industry like mine, and I was like, something's there's a disconnect here. And so that birth the idea of creating not only an awards platform, but like a college program, of going in and talking to educating students about different careers in entertainment.
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Speaker 2: How much scholarship money have you and Culture Creators awarded to HBCU students.
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Speaker 3: Since all of this, I.
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Speaker 1: Would say probably now we're nearing the four hundred thousand dollars range. And when we started doing it to be fully transparent, you know, I wasn't a nonprofit because I didn't want to be a non profit.
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Speaker 2: I didn't want anybody listening, even joking, it is not fun to be a nonprofit. It's so much work. You have to you have to chart every toothpick right.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't want to be a nonprofit because one of that and to us like, you know what, I could just be a flow through and help other people, and so a lot of that money was gone. You know, I awarded through the ideation of creating these platforms through other entities. And it's only in the last two years that I've become a nonprofit. But that's been not a necessity to stay alive because you know, a lot of the programming stuff that we were doing has either been ingested into programming within their corporate entity or they stopped it all together. And we're still doing the work because we were doing the work before they did it. And we're going to be doing the work long after people are gone. So I had to become a nonprofit so that I could still do the work that we A'm passionate about doing.
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Speaker 2: I think it's really great that you saw the invisibility of the work that you were doing, not just as someone who's doing all the work and who's making all these sacrifices. Like you said, you were a victim to your career in many ways without any of the rewards. But also it's even with that, it's a great career option that a lot of people aren't aware of.
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Speaker 3: How did you fall into it?
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Speaker 2: Because for people who don't know it was you had a very storied professional career.
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Speaker 3: I mean you were you were making many many household names.
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Speaker 1: Household names, I would tell you the truth, Like you know, I didn't go to school for it. I went to school for broadcast journalism. I thought I would want to be in media and on the news side because I would just you know, I just love news and I wanted to graduate. And when I got into having an internship, and I think my first internship was at CNN CNN back in the day, and I didn't even last long because I hated it. But I've always been drawn to music, you know. I went to a magnet program for high school, so I danced. I studied dance. I took workshops and master classes in the city. And then when I got to college, my parents were like, listen, dancers, lives are not that long. You need to, you know, get a degree that you can fall back on. And my dad was the one. I was like, you know, I think you should go into business. I think you would be a great business And I was like, I ain't a now know, And so I went. I thought I wanted to get into politics, and then just you know, being in I went to Howard University. So being in d C and being around all the you know, the government of politics, it's a natural migration, want to go, want to go in that direction. But I just had started to really yearn to be creative. And that's one thing about dance. Dance allows you to express yourself through your body and move and you can feel the music and you can flow it, and I can see and you feel the colors of it. And I had a longing for that, and so I decided, you know what, I'm just going to take a stab at it. I started throwing parties, and I used to call record labels randomly and say, hey, do you have someone coming through Washington d C. Promoting a record. I had this party that I do and it actually got pretty popular, and you know, people started to like recognize. I start working with a couple of artists and I was like, oh, this could be a thing. And so I quit my job. I was working for a government contract. I was working on a government contract. I quit my job and I stayed and I moved to New York. Didn't have a job, but I told myself that i'd work at McDonald's. Like I didn't care what the job was. I just knew that I had to go to New York, and I knew that I had to get into music industry. So I just basically went networked. Met a young lady who was an assistant at a record label. She interests me around. Next thing I know, I'm sitting in Heavy D's office, sitting here like, oh my goodness, I'm saying you're a Heavy D. And he's like, listen, I need a new executive assistant. I'll give you a week, and if you last a week, you can have a job. So I worked for a week for him for free, to see, you know, to prove that I could, you know, handle the job, and of course I did, and then the rest was just history after that.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 2: So it's funny because you are no stranger to hustle, and so all of the pivots that you've had to do over the years, whether it was quit your job, moving to New York City, working for free, starting the stakeholders that networking out, starting Culture Creators as a curiosity, and then pivoting to now it's a bona fide nonprofit that's given thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars in scholarships and connected who knows how many people you're here now talk to us about what Culture Creators is now today?
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Speaker 3: As a five o' one C three, What do you do?
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Speaker 2: How can people participate on glean from your efforts?
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Speaker 1: We actually have three prong business. So we have an agency where the agency is like our I would say, we work with corporations who want to let's say they want to build something around community like right now where I'm consulting for the BT Awards, they're building around their industry talk. So I'm curating conversations that are free for the public around how to get into the music industry. If you're independent artists, you know what is things you should know, whether the platform should be you should be using, how to invest your money. You know, if you want to launch your film and TV career, how to get funding and how to get distributed. So all those things come under my agency, and I work for companies hire me to build that out. And also we also do our own sports and entertainment summits under that under that umbrella, so all our branded stuff pretty much sits there. Our nonprofit foundation, all that sits is our education and our scholarship, So all of our college summits that we do. We have a program called the Campus change Makers where we mentor thirty five to forty students across any college, not just HBCUs, any college. You just have to be a person of color or just a person who is interested in the entertainment sports entertainment field, and we select them based on if we think they're a culture creator, if they're going to be game changers on campus, and after they leave campus and we mentor them. That's a two year program, so our students at launch two years ago, so our students are just now graduating all that program, so we'll be taking in new students in the fall. And then we have an apparel line that we just launched is called Creators Collection, and that is a partnership that I have with fame streetwear designer Karl k and I. The idea about that is, are close to our stories, part of our culture, and there are tons of legendary designers like Carl, who's one of the originator a streetwear originators to tell their story, and they also use that as an opportunity to bring up a young person who may not gone to school for design, but has talent and skill and just need a foot in. And so we've created that as a pipeline to amplify stories of fashion creators, but also create a pipeline to bring in young people who have skill and talent and also want to be in the design in fashion.
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Speaker 3: That's wonderful.
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Speaker 2: And these three prongs, however, these have been evolved over time, refined trying to figure out because like you said.
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Speaker 1: They're still evolving.
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Speaker 3: And it's interesting because the industry has evolved so much.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you couldn't you can no longer just quit your job, moves to new York City, find a wrapper and work for free for a week.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way anymore, unfortunately.
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Speaker 2: So why is it even more important now that you have organizations like yours to we ate a new type of streamline pipeline Because.
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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things I realize is that you know a lot of your success depends on access. You know, it's access to whether it's money, whether it's c suite leaders or information. We all need access to something. And that's one of the things that we are really good at is connecting the dots for people being I say, a conduit to whatever you need to pursue your dreams, whether it's technology, fashion, uh tech, startup, uh sports, whatever it's it's it's about connecting. Because again, like when I started coach Creators, it's true to our DNA, it's about like putting people in a room and say, how can we collaborate, how can we break bread together? And how can we make money together? I think that's what is so important now, and even more critical is what does the economics look like for us to work together, especially in this climate they're in now. How do we collaborate in a way that we both can survive and both can live because that's how you build community and that's how you also too. We own a piece of our culture, and that's a lot of what we talk about is that, you know, we create these great things, but what does what does ownership look like? And sometimes you need someone else and also you also need some people don't look like us. Right, So I'm very clear that we have allies and sponsors in our movement to help us amplify, narrate, curate, and create things that impact our culture.
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Speaker 3: And your efforts are not going unnoticed.
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Speaker 2: Recently you become the I Think the Add Color and Music Award winner. You also were included in Essence Magazine's Power forty and again twenty sixteen. You you were just starting this because you just wanted to make your work a little less invisible. Oh here we are.
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Speaker 3: How does this make you feel?
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Speaker 2: This trajectory, this evolution to making waves that are being noticed with you.
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Speaker 3: At the Helm as the CEO and founder.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, because this work isn't about me. You know, I didn't start this because I wanted to amplify what I was doing. I just knew that there are so many talented people and we need to know each other and we need to work together. And that my young people who are coming to my office crying that they're not getting promoted or they don't know how to get to this person. That person, I knew that someone had to reach back and show them a pathway. So I don't This is never about me, and I'm very very clear about that. The work that I do is not about me. It's much bigger than me. I think it's really about it's a testament that people believe in community, and people believe that we can work together, and that culture creators exist because people believe in And I'm absolutely clear about that because it's the halls, it's the can you help me, it's the do you know? It's the can you link me with? That keeps us and sustains us. So it's not about the work that I do. It's about, you know, the people who support me and support culture creators. I give voice to it because you need someone to drive the train. But you know, what's a good train without the you know, the cars behind it to make it powerful. So I'm very very clear that who I am and the success that we've had and a noted rider we've had is built off the back of the people who support me and my village to sustain me.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot to do with the invisibility of the work, right because like you said, like there's a correlation between the work that you're trying to promote people like it isn't visible.
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Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of it. You don't understand the pathways.
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Speaker 2: It's very much like motherhood because I see a relationship. Because both of your girls have now graduated high school, they're off in some world. Do you feel that once you've got them partially out and about? Was that when you were able to hunker down with your business a little bit more?
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Speaker 1: I think taking a chance now to be a full time entrepreneur, I will say it's less stressful because I don't have little ones per se that now I can take the energy of being home and nurturing and all the things it takes when you have younger children. I can put that energy into my business. But you know, I would say that one of the things I've been fortunate about is I've been able to surround myself and build a little village that was always sustaining because even in my daytime job, my daytime job at Atlantic took most of my time. There was no way that I could scale Atlantic records and still maintain that job. One was going to give because the pathway to entrepreneurship it was pushing and pushing and pushing, and I knew eventually I would have to jump off that diving board into this unknown water and try to figure out how to swim, which is what I'm doing now. But I will say that having this court has allowed me to do that and my kids, with the beauty of it now is that they're old enough now to see their food of the labor. So when my daughters are with me, they worked the awards brunch last year and they had no idea how hard it was. And they were like, mom, you've been doing this all this year by yourself, Like this, this is so hard, and they were just astonished. And so for me, I was one so proud to have them by me, I mean, and they killed it. On top of that, I was like, Okay, they're superstars. But secondly, they were able to see the see the work, and they understood it, and it made sense for all those times when I was like come home, I'm exhausted or I'm on calls. I love thirty twelve o'clock at night. It made it connected all the dots for them. So we had this another mom and daughter bonding moment over Okay, Mom, you're really building something that's impactful.
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Speaker 3: I love that. Not only are you building something impactful.
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Speaker 2: But do you think what lessons have your kids learned from your entrepreneurial spirit?
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Speaker 3: Do you see it in the way they approach life now?
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Speaker 2: Sometimes people are just like my kids are like no business for me. Other times they're just jumping right in with their own businesses.
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Speaker 1: You know what's so funny is that I always try to push them to start something because they have really good ideas, I mean really really good ideas. They're like, mom, everybody wants to be an entrepreneurs, so I just kind of back off. But what surprised me was is that they're they're very different ones at night and day. Right, So my daughter Kenny is super project oriented. Watching her put together a shoot from doing weekly meetings, moved boards, all the things, I was so impressed. I was like, Okay, she's been taking note. And then I have another daughter, Sidney, who is very creative, so she comes to me with like creative campaigns and music to listen to and things that I've made be up on and really good creative ideas of how to launch different things. So they're very different but so much a part of me. That is so funny. I was like, Okay, they have been paying attention over the years, or this is some of the kind of natural I'm going to take ownership and save. They got it from their mom. But I'm just so impressed that, you know, watching them be involved in culture creators in the ways they are that they really bring great value. Like I'm I'm astone, even though I want, I would love to pass this down to them, and they kind of right now they're like, Mom, I don't know about that, but they are. They really bring value to what I'm doing. And it's exciting to be in a phase with them, to work with my daughters.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure joy. They are bringing you a lot of joy.
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Speaker 2: It's very exciting to see this and to see them be proud of you. How does that make you feel? Because you're building this for the community, right and you're building this because you fell to calling. But also it's wait to see your daughters recognizing what mom has sacrificed and put together.
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Speaker 1: I will say, like I'll share a moment with you. Like last summer, we were doing a sports and entertainment summer in Detroit and the City Council surprised me with the Spirit of Detroit Award and my daughter presented it. Oh my, I'm gonna cry, but she was like, you know, Mom, I had no idea the breadth of work as you do that you know the people that you do, and that you do this kype of work. And it just when I tell you, I was like boohooing. The fact that she even was bold enough to get on a mic and then turn around to present that to me, it just it just took my breath away. And then my other daughter was, you know, she was so overwhelmed with the brunch last year and she can't spok at Mom, I'm just so proud of you, and she gave me the biggest hug and it was just amazing.
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Speaker 3: And speaking of the brunch, this year's is coming up very soon.
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Speaker 2: What's in store and what can people look forward to not just this year but every year at your legendary brunch.
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Speaker 1: So this year we're I'm giving you a little sneak peek, but we are announcing I don't realize. I don't think people realize that it's our tenth anniverse. We still were gonna announce it. It's our tenth university, and we've done a little bit different. So normally we have you know, honor raise across every single category, but this year is based on a theme. It's based on the stories we tell. And I picked that because with you know, our artifacts being taken on museums, books being pulled off shelves, people losing jobs, you know, media losing their voice, it's so important that the stories that we tell each other. You know, there's oral history that goes way back predates us about how we communicate to each other, our history, you know, our culture, how we drive our story help each other. And I kind of want to get back to that and tell people, like, it's really important the stories, not as we tell each other and amplify each other, but it's important the stories we tell so that we can continue to be inspired, continue to reach for the stars, continues to dream, regardless of what's happened in the world. So a lot of the people were honoring our storytellers, so our icon of the of the Year is Larry Wilmore and he's responsible, you know, he has hands in Eastern Ray's career, Quinta Brunson, you name it. He's Kirby Enthusiasm, you know, the Late Show like, so he's such a powerful person and to be able to tell the impact of all the work he's done over the years is an incredible honor to have. We have Keiki Palmer, who is our Innovator of the Year. Miss Keicky. You know, she's all things, you know, from music to author to you know, an actress, and she's really passionate about people too, and I want to be able to tell that side of her. We also have Candy Burrs. Candy is I'm amazed by her, Like she is one of the backers of the Denzel Washington play. This play that's out a fellow on Broadway, and she's a serial entrepreneur. But it's just so talented in terms of business and how what it takes to, you know, take her opportunity from being a singer and a songwriter, but a restaurant tour and now a Broadway producer. So it's it's it's wonderful to share light on her. We have Kimberly A Blackwell, who is also a powerhouse and business connecting the dots across finance and brand and culture. We also have actress Tasha Smith, who's you know, a director, producer and her own right and has been so instrumental and success of others as well. And our sister Joy Anne Reid. I don't think I have to tell you about her, but just want to amplify her and celebrate her because she's been on the front line taking a lot of bullets for to stand up for what's right. And so this is an opportunity as a community to come and lift her up and lift up programs. And we have a roster more coming.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, but here's again, all these people in one room. That just is a testament to how esteemed you are. Because people do not have time. It's the year of our large twenty twenty five. People are not just showing up to anything, and they are here. And that's been a through line with culture creators. People have always recognized what Joy does is something that is worthwhile and useful and constructive for the community.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm thankful that they feel that way. I will tell you the room feels like a family reunion. It's not you don't walk in, it's not stuffy, it's purposeful. We really I try to set the tone as to why we're here, and we're here because we are a community. We are here to support each other, we are here to tell our stories. We're here to, you know, reach across the aisle and say, how do your neighbor? You know? And and one of the things that I'm clear on is that that's why people return every year and why they walk away with a warm feeling and have a warm feeling around what we do.
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Speaker 2: Okay, our time is almost up, and I can't let you leave without participating in my favorite segment called Mompreneur's Manifestation, where every week I ask our guests what are you trying to make happen? So? What are you trying to make happen with culture Creators? And how can we help bring it into the universe for you?
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to make culture Creators one of the definitive voices of culture and media. How you can help me get there is by following us, supporting us, subscribing to our newsletter, sharing with your friends, share our page, share what's going on show up to the events that we do, and we're always looking for new ideas. We're always looking to neck with fellow entrepreneurs or people in any space that are that I feel like Culture Creates can help them or be a part of something that they're doing. We're always open to working and collaborating.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So if anyone wants to work or collaborate or building or benefit from you, where can they find you?
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Speaker 3: In Culture Creators, Joy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, We're on Instagram and our instagram is at the Culture Creators. We're also on Facebook as Culture Creators, TikTok as Culture Creators, and if you want to shoot us a note, you can contact us at info at Culturecreators dot com and obviously our website culturecreators dot com.
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Speaker 3: There's also Culturecreators Foundation dot com too, right.
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Speaker 1: Yes there is, and we're also on LinkedIn as well and hands.
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Speaker 3: James, Well, thank you, Joy.
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Speaker 2: I'm so impressed, and your kids are impressed too.
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Speaker 3: We're all impressed. You are a great momentpreneur role model for all of us.
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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, and thank you for the work that you're doing of highlighting moentrepreneurs. I mean that it's incredible work. In itself. You know, everyone needs an outlet to kind of talk about what you're doing. I think what you're doing is incredible and congratulations, oh thank you.
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Speaker 2: It's so much fun because all of us have an entrepreneur in us, and sometimes we think motherhood might get in the way, but in fact it can just enhance not just the work that we want to do, but what our family is capable of as we see from you. So thank you so much for being here, and thanks to all of you for watching and listening to morepreneurs. As a reminder, a brand new episode goes live every Monday on Urban one podcast Network, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Visit urbanwepodcast dot com to learn more. That's Urban the number one podcast dot com.
Speaker 1: Met a young lady who was an assistant at our record label. She introduced me around. Next thing I know, I'm sitting in Heavy D's office, sitting here like, oh my goodness, I'm sitting here with Heavy D. And he's like, listen, I need an executive assistant. I'll give you a week and if you last a week, you can have a job.
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Speaker 2: Hey, sodre one, Nancy Redd And this is season four of Mompreneurs, where we celebrate beautiful black entrepreneurs who are.
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Speaker 3: Also amazing moms.
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Speaker 2: Now, every week I'm chatting with my guests about how they are killing it simultaneously as a business model and as a mom.
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Speaker 3: We're listening to.
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Speaker 2: Their inspiring journeys and incredible advice. Now, today we are honored to be joined by a true force in the entertainment and media world. Joy Brown is the CEO of Culture Creators. She's also the former SVP of Marketing Atlantic Records and also the former head of Strategic Partnerships at ICM. Now, through mentorship programming and commune partnerships, Joy is changing the face of leadership and she's celebrating black and brown professionals making sure the pipeline of talent is both deep and diverse. Now she's doing this all while wifing and.
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Speaker 3: Mommying up to twin girls.
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Speaker 2: Joy, I don't know how you have time to even talk to me today, but I am so glad, welcome.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Nancy. This is so excited to be here. I love being a mom and I'm so excited to support and talk about all the things around being an entrepreneur and a mother and a wife and all the things.
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Speaker 2: All the things because you are juggling a lot and you always have been, and you do it so well. But before we get too far into the business side of things, let's get a little bit personal. Who in your life puts the mom in morepreneur? Who's in your household?
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Speaker 1: So I have one of the twins here, Kennedy is here. She goes to school in New Jersey, so she commutes. And my other daughter I've been trying to bribe to come back home to but she is living her best life as a young independent woman in Brooklyn and she goes to college in the city. I love that.
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Speaker 3: So your nest is halfway flown.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And you know, honestly, I've been trying to lure the other one in so I think I'm almost there. You know, she's hinting like maybe I will come home. You know, it's been so nice being able to be on this side of motherhood, in this journey with them, and I just adore the relationship that we have blocked, how it's bloss and into this new relationship.
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Speaker 2: Now, you started this business when they were held How old were they when you started Culture Creators.
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Speaker 1: They must have been.
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Speaker 2: It was twenty sixteen, so that's eight years ago, so they would have been in middle school.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, really I didn't know what I was starting. I just knew that I wanted people to get together, and I knew that there were no conferences, and so I said, hmm, what if we bring people together who I know create culture. And that's how Culture Creators just the name even came about. And so you know them watching me, you know, create flyers and come up with strategy, and you know, seeing me do T shirts by hand and all the things. They have been on his journey with me, block and step.
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Speaker 2: That's so sweet and it's so interesting because so many people, especially moms, start businesses because this is a very purposeful concept to create cash flow to give them some way that can go to their kids' school dinners or you know, all of their different activities.
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Speaker 3: You were working a full time job.
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Speaker 2: You this was just something that you felt a calling to create at the time. You were killing it in the industry.
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Speaker 1: Oh thank you, yeah, you know, I will say. And to be honest, this wasn't my first stab at creating something like this. I actually had created I thought it was going to take off. But it was called The Stakeholders. And it was so interesting because now that I say this out loud, it's the similar concept of culture Creators. The idea was that it was geared towards women, but the idea was that as women we should be stakeholders and each other's success. And so I was bringing women together across different industries to meet one another and talk about like, you know, just meet each other and talk about what are your needs and to lean in on that and make create a safe space for that.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing.
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Speaker 2: So this is also a great example because so many times, myself included, you don't really see the failures, right, you don't see the things that did get law and just see the successes.
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Speaker 3: But you've always wanted to be in business.
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Speaker 2: You've always wanted to create your own entity, even though you had an incredible professional career. Were you always business oriented? Did you have a business as a kid? Did you know the girl with the candy sales?
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Speaker 1: One fact is that I did not think that I was I was into business at all. I did not think that I wanted to be entrepreneur until my sister reminded me, She goes, do you remember in college used to sell pillows and sell them for Valentine's Day? And then my best friend reminded me that I used to cook soul food dinners and sell them out of my dorm room. So I guess I kind of always had this little entrepreneurial bug. But when I got into the music industry, it really I don't think that I necessarily had an entrepreneur bug then, because I really loved what I you know, I loved my job, and I loved working with the talent that I work with. But I just kind of always have been into the service of others and making and you know, doing what I can to make a difference. And so it naturally kind of migrated into this thing where it's become now. But it was It was built off of a passion just you know, a hobby of bringing people together. Because I just knew that once I got people in the room together, that building community wouldn't be so difficult. And I did not know that, you know, having a party at Guilded Lily with these people in the music industry would turn into here now we're about to celebrate ten years and celebrate nine years doing our awards brunch, it would turn into this platform. I had no inkling. I just knew. I was just passionate about people, and I was passionate about making sure that we knew that we are stakeholders and each other's success and that we need one another.
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Speaker 3: I love that.
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Speaker 2: And exactly, you didn't know what you were creating, and you especially did not know that it would become your full time entrepreneurial profession, which is wild, right, Like you, how did this transition happen? How did you go from culture creators as the thing you do to get back to the community. I want to talk all about all the things you do from the brunch to the hundreds of thousands of dollars of scholarships and now it is actually part of your uh, your world is what you do full time.
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Speaker 1: I had it. You have an instinct, right, you have an urge that this is I knew that I was onto something. I remember when I did my first event in New York. All my folks in LA was like, oh my goodness, we couldn't fly in. You gotta do it in LA. And I said, oh, I do have to do it in LA. So then I didn't event during Grammys, and then it was never geared towards artists. It's really about people who are really are behind the scenes driving culture. And I look up and like, Chris Rock is in there, diplos in their skill legs. And it wasn't even like just black people. It was people who were just celebrating what it was were culture. And I was like, okay, this is this is cool, but okay, still had no clue. Still working full time at Atlantic Records, still doing things, still passionate about my job. But then I started listening to people and one of the things that I realize, and I am also a victim of the industry because you spend so much time sacrificing for others dreams. So there are times like you know, I couldn't make it to a parent teacher conference, or my kids needed me for something, or my husband needed me something, or I wanted to be home but I couldn't and I had to work on weekends. And no one sees the sacrifice that goes into building other people's dreams. And then they get on award shows or not that you have to be thanked, but they get on these big stages and your name is not called to thank but you know, maybe you know you picked the choreographer that they just won this. You know they did this huge performance with you know, all the things that you go use sacrifice and research and put behind them to few their dreams. You turn around, you're like, Okay, well, I kind of feel like no one even knows that I exist. And then a large part of who I am is that I work with young people, always mentored, and when I talked to them, they had no idea that there could be a job in the music industry like mine, and I was like, something's there's a disconnect here. And so that birth the idea of creating not only an awards platform, but like a college program, of going in and talking to educating students about different careers in entertainment.
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Speaker 2: How much scholarship money have you and Culture Creators awarded to HBCU students.
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Speaker 3: Since all of this, I.
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Speaker 1: Would say probably now we're nearing the four hundred thousand dollars range. And when we started doing it to be fully transparent, you know, I wasn't a nonprofit because I didn't want to be a non profit.
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Speaker 2: I didn't want anybody listening, even joking, it is not fun to be a nonprofit. It's so much work. You have to you have to chart every toothpick right.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't want to be a nonprofit because one of that and to us like, you know what, I could just be a flow through and help other people, and so a lot of that money was gone. You know, I awarded through the ideation of creating these platforms through other entities. And it's only in the last two years that I've become a nonprofit. But that's been not a necessity to stay alive because you know, a lot of the programming stuff that we were doing has either been ingested into programming within their corporate entity or they stopped it all together. And we're still doing the work because we were doing the work before they did it. And we're going to be doing the work long after people are gone. So I had to become a nonprofit so that I could still do the work that we A'm passionate about doing.
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Speaker 2: I think it's really great that you saw the invisibility of the work that you were doing, not just as someone who's doing all the work and who's making all these sacrifices. Like you said, you were a victim to your career in many ways without any of the rewards. But also it's even with that, it's a great career option that a lot of people aren't aware of.
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Speaker 3: How did you fall into it?
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Speaker 2: Because for people who don't know it was you had a very storied professional career.
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Speaker 3: I mean you were you were making many many household names.
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Speaker 1: Household names, I would tell you the truth, Like you know, I didn't go to school for it. I went to school for broadcast journalism. I thought I would want to be in media and on the news side because I would just you know, I just love news and I wanted to graduate. And when I got into having an internship, and I think my first internship was at CNN CNN back in the day, and I didn't even last long because I hated it. But I've always been drawn to music, you know. I went to a magnet program for high school, so I danced. I studied dance. I took workshops and master classes in the city. And then when I got to college, my parents were like, listen, dancers, lives are not that long. You need to, you know, get a degree that you can fall back on. And my dad was the one. I was like, you know, I think you should go into business. I think you would be a great business And I was like, I ain't a now know, And so I went. I thought I wanted to get into politics, and then just you know, being in I went to Howard University. So being in d C and being around all the you know, the government of politics, it's a natural migration, want to go, want to go in that direction. But I just had started to really yearn to be creative. And that's one thing about dance. Dance allows you to express yourself through your body and move and you can feel the music and you can flow it, and I can see and you feel the colors of it. And I had a longing for that, and so I decided, you know what, I'm just going to take a stab at it. I started throwing parties, and I used to call record labels randomly and say, hey, do you have someone coming through Washington d C. Promoting a record. I had this party that I do and it actually got pretty popular, and you know, people started to like recognize. I start working with a couple of artists and I was like, oh, this could be a thing. And so I quit my job. I was working for a government contract. I was working on a government contract. I quit my job and I stayed and I moved to New York. Didn't have a job, but I told myself that i'd work at McDonald's. Like I didn't care what the job was. I just knew that I had to go to New York, and I knew that I had to get into music industry. So I just basically went networked. Met a young lady who was an assistant at a record label. She interests me around. Next thing I know, I'm sitting in Heavy D's office, sitting here like, oh my goodness, I'm saying you're a Heavy D. And he's like, listen, I need a new executive assistant. I'll give you a week, and if you last a week, you can have a job. So I worked for a week for him for free, to see, you know, to prove that I could, you know, handle the job, and of course I did, and then the rest was just history after that.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 2: So it's funny because you are no stranger to hustle, and so all of the pivots that you've had to do over the years, whether it was quit your job, moving to New York City, working for free, starting the stakeholders that networking out, starting Culture Creators as a curiosity, and then pivoting to now it's a bona fide nonprofit that's given thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars in scholarships and connected who knows how many people you're here now talk to us about what Culture Creators is now today?
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Speaker 3: As a five o' one C three, What do you do?
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Speaker 2: How can people participate on glean from your efforts?
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Speaker 1: We actually have three prong business. So we have an agency where the agency is like our I would say, we work with corporations who want to let's say they want to build something around community like right now where I'm consulting for the BT Awards, they're building around their industry talk. So I'm curating conversations that are free for the public around how to get into the music industry. If you're independent artists, you know what is things you should know, whether the platform should be you should be using, how to invest your money. You know, if you want to launch your film and TV career, how to get funding and how to get distributed. So all those things come under my agency, and I work for companies hire me to build that out. And also we also do our own sports and entertainment summits under that under that umbrella, so all our branded stuff pretty much sits there. Our nonprofit foundation, all that sits is our education and our scholarship, So all of our college summits that we do. We have a program called the Campus change Makers where we mentor thirty five to forty students across any college, not just HBCUs, any college. You just have to be a person of color or just a person who is interested in the entertainment sports entertainment field, and we select them based on if we think they're a culture creator, if they're going to be game changers on campus, and after they leave campus and we mentor them. That's a two year program, so our students at launch two years ago, so our students are just now graduating all that program, so we'll be taking in new students in the fall. And then we have an apparel line that we just launched is called Creators Collection, and that is a partnership that I have with fame streetwear designer Karl k and I. The idea about that is, are close to our stories, part of our culture, and there are tons of legendary designers like Carl, who's one of the originator a streetwear originators to tell their story, and they also use that as an opportunity to bring up a young person who may not gone to school for design, but has talent and skill and just need a foot in. And so we've created that as a pipeline to amplify stories of fashion creators, but also create a pipeline to bring in young people who have skill and talent and also want to be in the design in fashion.
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Speaker 3: That's wonderful.
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Speaker 2: And these three prongs, however, these have been evolved over time, refined trying to figure out because like you said.
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Speaker 1: They're still evolving.
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Speaker 3: And it's interesting because the industry has evolved so much.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you couldn't you can no longer just quit your job, moves to new York City, find a wrapper and work for free for a week.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way anymore, unfortunately.
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Speaker 2: So why is it even more important now that you have organizations like yours to we ate a new type of streamline pipeline Because.
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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things I realize is that you know a lot of your success depends on access. You know, it's access to whether it's money, whether it's c suite leaders or information. We all need access to something. And that's one of the things that we are really good at is connecting the dots for people being I say, a conduit to whatever you need to pursue your dreams, whether it's technology, fashion, uh tech, startup, uh sports, whatever it's it's it's about connecting. Because again, like when I started coach Creators, it's true to our DNA, it's about like putting people in a room and say, how can we collaborate, how can we break bread together? And how can we make money together? I think that's what is so important now, and even more critical is what does the economics look like for us to work together, especially in this climate they're in now. How do we collaborate in a way that we both can survive and both can live because that's how you build community and that's how you also too. We own a piece of our culture, and that's a lot of what we talk about is that, you know, we create these great things, but what does what does ownership look like? And sometimes you need someone else and also you also need some people don't look like us. Right, So I'm very clear that we have allies and sponsors in our movement to help us amplify, narrate, curate, and create things that impact our culture.
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Speaker 3: And your efforts are not going unnoticed.
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Speaker 2: Recently you become the I Think the Add Color and Music Award winner. You also were included in Essence Magazine's Power forty and again twenty sixteen. You you were just starting this because you just wanted to make your work a little less invisible. Oh here we are.
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Speaker 3: How does this make you feel?
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Speaker 2: This trajectory, this evolution to making waves that are being noticed with you.
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Speaker 3: At the Helm as the CEO and founder.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, because this work isn't about me. You know, I didn't start this because I wanted to amplify what I was doing. I just knew that there are so many talented people and we need to know each other and we need to work together. And that my young people who are coming to my office crying that they're not getting promoted or they don't know how to get to this person. That person, I knew that someone had to reach back and show them a pathway. So I don't This is never about me, and I'm very very clear about that. The work that I do is not about me. It's much bigger than me. I think it's really about it's a testament that people believe in community, and people believe that we can work together, and that culture creators exist because people believe in And I'm absolutely clear about that because it's the halls, it's the can you help me, it's the do you know? It's the can you link me with? That keeps us and sustains us. So it's not about the work that I do. It's about, you know, the people who support me and support culture creators. I give voice to it because you need someone to drive the train. But you know, what's a good train without the you know, the cars behind it to make it powerful. So I'm very very clear that who I am and the success that we've had and a noted rider we've had is built off the back of the people who support me and my village to sustain me.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot to do with the invisibility of the work, right because like you said, like there's a correlation between the work that you're trying to promote people like it isn't visible.
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Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of it. You don't understand the pathways.
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Speaker 2: It's very much like motherhood because I see a relationship. Because both of your girls have now graduated high school, they're off in some world. Do you feel that once you've got them partially out and about? Was that when you were able to hunker down with your business a little bit more?
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Speaker 1: I think taking a chance now to be a full time entrepreneur, I will say it's less stressful because I don't have little ones per se that now I can take the energy of being home and nurturing and all the things it takes when you have younger children. I can put that energy into my business. But you know, I would say that one of the things I've been fortunate about is I've been able to surround myself and build a little village that was always sustaining because even in my daytime job, my daytime job at Atlantic took most of my time. There was no way that I could scale Atlantic records and still maintain that job. One was going to give because the pathway to entrepreneurship it was pushing and pushing and pushing, and I knew eventually I would have to jump off that diving board into this unknown water and try to figure out how to swim, which is what I'm doing now. But I will say that having this court has allowed me to do that and my kids, with the beauty of it now is that they're old enough now to see their food of the labor. So when my daughters are with me, they worked the awards brunch last year and they had no idea how hard it was. And they were like, mom, you've been doing this all this year by yourself, Like this, this is so hard, and they were just astonished. And so for me, I was one so proud to have them by me, I mean, and they killed it. On top of that, I was like, Okay, they're superstars. But secondly, they were able to see the see the work, and they understood it, and it made sense for all those times when I was like come home, I'm exhausted or I'm on calls. I love thirty twelve o'clock at night. It made it connected all the dots for them. So we had this another mom and daughter bonding moment over Okay, Mom, you're really building something that's impactful.
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Speaker 3: I love that. Not only are you building something impactful.
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Speaker 2: But do you think what lessons have your kids learned from your entrepreneurial spirit?
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Speaker 3: Do you see it in the way they approach life now?
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Speaker 2: Sometimes people are just like my kids are like no business for me. Other times they're just jumping right in with their own businesses.
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Speaker 1: You know what's so funny is that I always try to push them to start something because they have really good ideas, I mean really really good ideas. They're like, mom, everybody wants to be an entrepreneurs, so I just kind of back off. But what surprised me was is that they're they're very different ones at night and day. Right, So my daughter Kenny is super project oriented. Watching her put together a shoot from doing weekly meetings, moved boards, all the things, I was so impressed. I was like, Okay, she's been taking note. And then I have another daughter, Sidney, who is very creative, so she comes to me with like creative campaigns and music to listen to and things that I've made be up on and really good creative ideas of how to launch different things. So they're very different but so much a part of me. That is so funny. I was like, Okay, they have been paying attention over the years, or this is some of the kind of natural I'm going to take ownership and save. They got it from their mom. But I'm just so impressed that, you know, watching them be involved in culture creators in the ways they are that they really bring great value. Like I'm I'm astone, even though I want, I would love to pass this down to them, and they kind of right now they're like, Mom, I don't know about that, but they are. They really bring value to what I'm doing. And it's exciting to be in a phase with them, to work with my daughters.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure joy. They are bringing you a lot of joy.
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Speaker 2: It's very exciting to see this and to see them be proud of you. How does that make you feel? Because you're building this for the community, right and you're building this because you fell to calling. But also it's wait to see your daughters recognizing what mom has sacrificed and put together.
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Speaker 1: I will say, like I'll share a moment with you. Like last summer, we were doing a sports and entertainment summer in Detroit and the City Council surprised me with the Spirit of Detroit Award and my daughter presented it. Oh my, I'm gonna cry, but she was like, you know, Mom, I had no idea the breadth of work as you do that you know the people that you do, and that you do this kype of work. And it just when I tell you, I was like boohooing. The fact that she even was bold enough to get on a mic and then turn around to present that to me, it just it just took my breath away. And then my other daughter was, you know, she was so overwhelmed with the brunch last year and she can't spok at Mom, I'm just so proud of you, and she gave me the biggest hug and it was just amazing.
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Speaker 3: And speaking of the brunch, this year's is coming up very soon.
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Speaker 2: What's in store and what can people look forward to not just this year but every year at your legendary brunch.
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Speaker 1: So this year we're I'm giving you a little sneak peek, but we are announcing I don't realize. I don't think people realize that it's our tenth anniverse. We still were gonna announce it. It's our tenth university, and we've done a little bit different. So normally we have you know, honor raise across every single category, but this year is based on a theme. It's based on the stories we tell. And I picked that because with you know, our artifacts being taken on museums, books being pulled off shelves, people losing jobs, you know, media losing their voice, it's so important that the stories that we tell each other. You know, there's oral history that goes way back predates us about how we communicate to each other, our history, you know, our culture, how we drive our story help each other. And I kind of want to get back to that and tell people, like, it's really important the stories, not as we tell each other and amplify each other, but it's important the stories we tell so that we can continue to be inspired, continue to reach for the stars, continues to dream, regardless of what's happened in the world. So a lot of the people were honoring our storytellers, so our icon of the of the Year is Larry Wilmore and he's responsible, you know, he has hands in Eastern Ray's career, Quinta Brunson, you name it. He's Kirby Enthusiasm, you know, the Late Show like, so he's such a powerful person and to be able to tell the impact of all the work he's done over the years is an incredible honor to have. We have Keiki Palmer, who is our Innovator of the Year. Miss Keicky. You know, she's all things, you know, from music to author to you know, an actress, and she's really passionate about people too, and I want to be able to tell that side of her. We also have Candy Burrs. Candy is I'm amazed by her, Like she is one of the backers of the Denzel Washington play. This play that's out a fellow on Broadway, and she's a serial entrepreneur. But it's just so talented in terms of business and how what it takes to, you know, take her opportunity from being a singer and a songwriter, but a restaurant tour and now a Broadway producer. So it's it's it's wonderful to share light on her. We have Kimberly A Blackwell, who is also a powerhouse and business connecting the dots across finance and brand and culture. We also have actress Tasha Smith, who's you know, a director, producer and her own right and has been so instrumental and success of others as well. And our sister Joy Anne Reid. I don't think I have to tell you about her, but just want to amplify her and celebrate her because she's been on the front line taking a lot of bullets for to stand up for what's right. And so this is an opportunity as a community to come and lift her up and lift up programs. And we have a roster more coming.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, but here's again, all these people in one room. That just is a testament to how esteemed you are. Because people do not have time. It's the year of our large twenty twenty five. People are not just showing up to anything, and they are here. And that's been a through line with culture creators. People have always recognized what Joy does is something that is worthwhile and useful and constructive for the community.
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm thankful that they feel that way. I will tell you the room feels like a family reunion. It's not you don't walk in, it's not stuffy, it's purposeful. We really I try to set the tone as to why we're here, and we're here because we are a community. We are here to support each other, we are here to tell our stories. We're here to, you know, reach across the aisle and say, how do your neighbor? You know? And and one of the things that I'm clear on is that that's why people return every year and why they walk away with a warm feeling and have a warm feeling around what we do.
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Speaker 2: Okay, our time is almost up, and I can't let you leave without participating in my favorite segment called Mompreneur's Manifestation, where every week I ask our guests what are you trying to make happen? So? What are you trying to make happen with culture Creators? And how can we help bring it into the universe for you?
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to make culture Creators one of the definitive voices of culture and media. How you can help me get there is by following us, supporting us, subscribing to our newsletter, sharing with your friends, share our page, share what's going on show up to the events that we do, and we're always looking for new ideas. We're always looking to neck with fellow entrepreneurs or people in any space that are that I feel like Culture Creates can help them or be a part of something that they're doing. We're always open to working and collaborating.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So if anyone wants to work or collaborate or building or benefit from you, where can they find you?
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Speaker 3: In Culture Creators, Joy.
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Speaker 1: Okay, We're on Instagram and our instagram is at the Culture Creators. We're also on Facebook as Culture Creators, TikTok as Culture Creators, and if you want to shoot us a note, you can contact us at info at Culturecreators dot com and obviously our website culturecreators dot com.
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Speaker 3: There's also Culturecreators Foundation dot com too, right.
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Speaker 1: Yes there is, and we're also on LinkedIn as well and hands.
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Speaker 3: James, Well, thank you, Joy.
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Speaker 2: I'm so impressed, and your kids are impressed too.
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Speaker 3: We're all impressed. You are a great momentpreneur role model for all of us.
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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, and thank you for the work that you're doing of highlighting moentrepreneurs. I mean that it's incredible work. In itself. You know, everyone needs an outlet to kind of talk about what you're doing. I think what you're doing is incredible and congratulations, oh thank you.
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Speaker 2: It's so much fun because all of us have an entrepreneur in us, and sometimes we think motherhood might get in the way, but in fact it can just enhance not just the work that we want to do, but what our family is capable of as we see from you. So thank you so much for being here, and thanks to all of you for watching and listening to morepreneurs. As a reminder, a brand new episode goes live every Monday on Urban one podcast Network, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Visit urbanwepodcast dot com to learn more. That's Urban the number one podcast dot com.
