9/8/25 - The Tony & Mo Football Show

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Let's drive on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of
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the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Yallame, I need to.
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You just look at one thing we've talked about is
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they get back on tracks. There were sometimes really the game,
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we got them into a second, ten, second eleven.
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Where we want them, and they were able to convert them.
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At the end of the game.
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When you look at every situation where we were in
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that way second eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, we won
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the next down, you know, And so I think our
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guys just did a great job finishing the game, closing
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it out, getting the two turnovers, getting the turnover run
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downs on the fourth and five, just just a lot
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of really good stuff to close.
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Up the game from our defense.
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Look at a game like that, Borrow, when you and
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Joe Burrow look at a game like that, where do
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you start to have conversations about what to improve or
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look at.
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What's the third down? I mean, it's it's extremely simple,
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you know. I think the first half we had twenty
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three first and second down plays out side a third
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down on three possessions. In the second half, we had
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twelve first and second downs because of our lack of
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third down conversion. So it's as simple as we got
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to convert a third and two. We got to convert
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a third and four. We got to convert a third
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and one to be able to get into a rhythm
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where we've got that first first down and now we
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got more normal down plays to keep them off guard.
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When you're just three and out because you're not converting
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third downs, they're just tan off, you know, and they've
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got all the momentum, and we just needed to convert
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on one to give ourselves some rhythm momentum.
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Weren't able to do that.
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That happens sometimes we don't want it to happen, but
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those are easy, easy things for us to be better.
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At moving forward offensively.
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Just feel like there were some deep shots to to
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to Markey that just weren't close to the stick.
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That's the deep game in general.
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You know, when you're gonna face man coverage against a
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good team that's gonna be able to Russia, then that's
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gonna happen. You know, one I would take that call back.
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You know, we called it go route versus soft corner.
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You know, that's that's there's a couple of plays you
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always want back as a play caller. That's probably one
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of them right there.
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You guys signed t J Slaton this offseason with the
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idea of let's be better stopping to run a start
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start first game. Obviously, you guys did that really well.
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What impact did you see him specifically have for you.
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Guys out there? A big one.
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You know.
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I think TJ really played well when every snap he
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was in there. He was physical in the run game,
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physical at the point of attack, made some hay in
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the past game as well, you know, and got some
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pressures back there. So overall I thought he had great
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energy throughout the game. In addition to him, I thought
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BJ responded really well. I thought, really, you know, everybody
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guy that went in there in the interior for us
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gave us what we needed to be able to win
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that game.
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Seemed to freed up the linebackers a lot. That's the idea, right,
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I mean, with the behind us. What do you think
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about his debut playing off off of that was happening
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in front of him.
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There was a lot of really good plays from d Night,
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you know, and I thought he played poised. It doesn't
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mean there's things that we can't correct in there. But again,
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I thought we got enough over there from all those guys.
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They played together, they communicated well, they kept the mill
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aires at a minimum, got the turnovers, the penalties were all.
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You know.
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There was some some DPIs and the legal contacts. That's
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that's part of playing a tight game like that. But
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in terms of things we can control, I thought we
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did a great job of that.
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The decision in preseason that you went out so it's
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not show your full hands, so to speak, in terms
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of defensive looks. Did you see a tangible benefit from
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that yesterday?
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Yeah, I think just just those guys getting out and
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playing whether it was good or bad pointing out there
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all eleven guys, and I thought they came out and
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played well.
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That first drive was in a lot of ways. There's
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some good things.
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The penalties extended to drive, but they were able to
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find ways to get the stops and and just the
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penalties pushed it along. But again I was proud of
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the way overall that they found a way to buckle
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down and get the win, especially in the second half.
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What do you think the lifespan is for holding back
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in preseason and.
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Not the first the first training candidate.
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You rotated some corner and at least looked like it
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was the same at linebacker.
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Was that the playing Yeah, yeah, well DJ Turner, you know,
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has earned opportunity, and so he went in there and
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played well and continued to earn opportunity. And so I
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think when you've got a lot of starting corners, those
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guys are going to continue to earn playing time and
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you've got to be flexible with how it's going to go.
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I think the linebacker position as well, Orren has earned opportunity.
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Barrett went in there when when Logan had the being up.
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You know, at the I can't remember what part of
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the game that was and walked out there and first
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Rep showed great command, poise in the huddle, poise making
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checks the time scrimmage that wasn't too big for him either.
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So we've got a lot of confidence in that linebacker room,
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and that's a good thing to have with with the
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versatility of a lot of the offenses we're going to play,
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whether we're utilizing two of those guys at the time,
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three those guys at a time, four of them at
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a time, rotating them how it is, those guys are
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all solid players for us.
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You know, I think I think he was a big
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six snaps touched on.
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Uh, I guess that's how much those guys use.
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W Yeah, a lot of flexibility in our time in room,
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and I think you're gonna be able to look at
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every game and it might that the playtime percentages can
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be different in every single game or so every defense
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we face. We're fortunate to really to us have five
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time ends that we trust for active on game day,
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you know, we had a fifth and active, but we've
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got five that we believe in can go in and
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operate our offense and give us what we need to win.
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So I think that's a really good room. And again,
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the playtime percentages could change game by game.
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I guess it was a mat with the way they
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would just kind of the way they're playing.
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Well, there the different groupings are going to invite different
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personnel groupings from the defense. Okay, so whatever we want
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to do going into that game, you know, there's your
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mom's calling if your mom's names Kathy, but uh, these
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every game we can we can invite different groupings. So
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what do we want to attack? How do we want
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to utilize the guys? So there's there's different ways we
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can we can utilize all those guys. You want me
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to answer it, you want me to Okay, I.
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Think at code in so we can. I guess I
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don't know is that he's a high is a fan.
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Right, here's a full back as true old school Spider two.
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That's Spider two.
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I've an air right there.
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That's not exactly how we called it, but that's that's
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the play I threw probably fourteen of my sixteen touchdowns
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in college on there, as simple as that. But yeah,
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for for yeah, if you like the junger and turn,
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that's basically what that play was.
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I did work with Cody on his form on his.
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You don't get that full speed you know, that's that's
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not a full speed rep that we get. Now we've
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we've walked through that a million times and talked through
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how we want to cut at the edge.
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It's a big job. But in terms of actually wrapping
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that live and him going we have we have not
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done that with him last last year. That was Hubbard,
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Well Hubbard not not true.
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Hubbard was the extra tight end on the edge, you know,
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and so usually he was on the backside cut off
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or the That was also Spider three, probably Banana basically
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on the touchdown he caught against Tennessee. But there's different.
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It depends on your active lists in the game. Sometimes
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you don't have enough active tight ends that fit those roles.
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Sometimes you don't have an active lineman you necessarily wanted
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to use. Sam was the body type we happened to
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use at the end of last season. So that that
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kind of depends. There is an extra spot in your
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goal one package. Oftentimes that is going to be based
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on the roster and who's available to you.
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Ted described what Dalton Reisner did yesterday as a stunning
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display of football professionalism. Yeah, have no camp, no OTAs,
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and then play most of the game in week one.
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Is that hyperbole or is that fair?
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No?
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I mean that was the second time in full pats,
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you know, Thursday's practice, Sunday's game. That's that that's difficult,
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you know, And it's the above the next stuff. He's got,
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the experience he's got. He obviously did a great job
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staying in shape where he was ready to go, and
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I thought did a great job getting through the game
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and it was durable and conditioning was fine. But you
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can't you can't simulate the body blows and the hits
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on your body. And I'm sure the soreness that he
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experiences right now, which is probably something our guys field
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day to a training camp, you know, with the pads on,
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so he's just experiencing that a different time. But I
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mean I just saw him and he's, you know, doing
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everything he can to take his body, get his body back,
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and we'll give him a couple of days here to
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be able to do that.
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You were evaluating Jordan Battle the off season.
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Once you see from his first few years, that makes
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you feel good about having.
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To start with the one.
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But he's got leadership capabilities that sims from his high
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school days at Saint Thomas all the way to Bama
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to now you're really seeing that. You know, he's he's
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got the ability to lead and his voice be heard.
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He's a smart player. You're going to get everything from
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him on every play. I thought one of the two
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of the plays that stuck out for me, there was
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a goal line play where his man motion across and
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he hit the motion and fit up and allow Logan
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to come through and make the play on the third
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third goal play. And then there was another one where
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they got a decent game but he came out of
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the post to make an open field tackle.
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You know, it took kind of two attempts there to
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get the back.
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On the ground, But great job not not freezing in
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the moment and not letting up and running through the
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tackle and getting the ball carer on the ground. And
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so I think Joe George with a lot of confidence
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right now. And that's the type of player we want
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him to be, and we saw that yesterday from him.
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Given how COLLECTI we got that secondary still kind of
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is how work was it for him to have a
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couple of big plays at the start of the season.
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It's great for them. I don't look at him as young.
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I feel like these guys, you know, when guys have
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three four years of experience, that that's not young anymore.
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For me, young is first and second year. Not a
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lot of games are the belt. This is this is
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becoming a veteran group for us, where these guys, you know,
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Dax and Cam and DJ Jordan Gino, those guys have
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played a lot of games and so we have really
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high expectations for them. Fig hasn't played us much, but
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we still have high expectations from him. He's coming and
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acted like a veteran. So I don't look at as
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a young group, and so my expectations that they're going
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to make plays for us, and they did that yesterday.
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I think when you're creating a game like yesterday or
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going over with Joe, how much do you look at
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the fact that he didn't force the ball into areas
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and didn't commit a turnover yesterday?
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Big reason you guys were able to woman.
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That's the critical part of week one is no turnovers,
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getting too on defense.
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Look at the scoreboard. That's going to be the winning team.
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And so for Joe to make great decisions in terms
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of where the ball is going, protect the ball in
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the pocket when things get rough, for all of our
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guys to protect the ball when they're in the open field.
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That's the difference in the in the game yesterday. Talent
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good things, you know, there's good things to continue to
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build on. There are things that we will correct as
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the season goes on. I told the team after the game,
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the Week one team is not going to be our
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Week two team or a Week six team. We're going
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to have to continue to improve as we go. But
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we have the right people that correct their mistakes and
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so I know we get a better version of everybody
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as we move forward.
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Is it kind of a weight off your shoulders to
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kind of dispel that Week one slow start narrative.
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No, it has nothing to do with that. It's just
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all the anxieties that come with Week one in general.
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You know, I think it's just it's its own unique week.
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There's so much build up from the offseason to that moment,
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the unexpected of what are they going to do? Challenges
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they can to present that they've been hiding from us
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all off season, and so just to just collectively as
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a team to find a way to win at times
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a gross game. Defensively, it was a beautiful game there
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at the end, those last five possessions, that's what you want.
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But just that's that's all we needed, was want to
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know and put ourselves in best before we said the
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league did us a huge favor putting us in a
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divisional road game week one, because come out of that
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want to know, that's the best case scenario of any
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game you could have played. And so our guys accepted
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that challenge and figured out what to get it done.
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How closely does yards allowed per carry correlate to winning?
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I think for the our style of football we want
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to play as a team, when you can eliminate the
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run game, knock down the explosives, and allow our offense
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to put pressure on teams, then that's gonna be a
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good recipe for winning.
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I know we.
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We as an offense didn't didn't support that in the
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second half, and we as defense did that part. And
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so there's gonna be times where different parts the team's
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gonna lean on the other unit.
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That's gonna happen.
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That's over seventeen game season's that's what's gonna happen when
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we put it all together. We feel like we're gonna
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be pretty deadly and I'm excited to look forward to
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putting playing together this week and doing a best get
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that down.
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Thank you.
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This has been the Zach Taylor press Conference on ESPN
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fifteen thirty, the official home of US Cincinnati Bengals.
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All right, there you go, Zach Taylor talking with the
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media who you could hear this and you originally known
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as Paul Brown Stadium, a day after his team hung
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on to beat the Cleveland Browns seventeen to sixteen in
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the season opener, Good Afternoon on Moegar with James Rapaine,
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the annual Let's Go the Annual season Edition season opening
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edition of The Tony and Mo Football Show without Tony Pike.
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Hey, they won. They'm not used to doing this after
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a win, nor am I. It may sound like a loss.
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I'm just kidding times it will at times.
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Times it will not always because you know, I don't
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know about you, although I do know about you. You
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can do multiple things. You can celebrate the victory, yep,
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and you could also talk about what they need to
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do to ensure their chances of achieving more victories. That
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is totally fair and we're going to do that today.
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We're a Twin Peaks in Westchester. We're here this week
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and next we move to the Florence location on the
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twenty second of September. We have a lot to discuss
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James with and I do this every time Bengals Talk
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dot com. Yes, Enter the Jungle yep, right, locked on Bengals.
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Yep, anything else. Cincinnati Bengals Talk.
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Is part of See there's a lot going on there. Yeah, right,
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there's a lot there's Cincinnati Bengals Talk is a part
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of Enter the Jungle, which is also the title of
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your book. Yeah, I think you should write a book
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on yesterday's game. It would be it would be interesting.
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You could write a book of my emotions during yesterday.
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Some people would only read half of it. I I
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would read all about Andre Schmidt.
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It's it's rough for him in Cleveland today, I'll tell
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you that much.
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Yeah, it's rough for him for two reasons. Number one,
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that ain't how you spell Schmidt. Number two, my guy
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had a bad game yesterday.
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I didn't even know how to say his name. So
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I'm glad you Like I.
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Had to look it up this morning because I knew
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we were going to talk about it.
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When he missed those kicks, I said, I don't need
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to learn your name. It's the opposite. I know that
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you're just the guy who's going to miss these kids.
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What I said is that guy needs some consonants and
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maybe some vowels, and he might need a new job
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if his performance yesterday becomes the norm. We're here till
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six o'clock. We have a lot to talk about. Bengals
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do win yesterday. Seventeen to sixteen. It's the Tony and
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Moo Football Show. James for Payne with Me today in
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there on scene. The other one westbound State Route twenty eight.
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Twenty three minutes after three o'clock. It's the season opening
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edition of The Tony and Mo Football Show, the season premiere.
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If you will, We're at Twin Peaks in Westchester till
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six o'clock. Twin Peaks has been with us since the
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twenty twenty season. We love coming here. We're at the
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Westchester spot, which is just like one minute off I
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seventy five. Get off at the Union Center Boulevard exit
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and you'll be here. The food is awesome. It's a
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great place to watch the Monday night football game tonight
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WHI should be a pretty decent one. Chicago. In Minnesota,
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the Reds play tonight. The Reds still have a pulse
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after they want two out of three. If excuse me,
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you're thinking ahead of this weekend college football the Bengals
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game on Sunday, Tons of TVs. The Coldest Bear. You'll
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find a great menu and an awesome staff as well.
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Twin Peaks in Westchester and Florence the dual homes of
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The Tony and Moe Football Show every Monday on ESPN
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fifteen thirty James Rapeene is in for Tony today. Tony
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is back for his show tomorrow at noon. What should
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I be feeling today? Elation that they won, concern with
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how the offense played? Should I feel mad? Should I
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just be so excited that I ignore all the words
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we saw yesterday? How should I feel?
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James? Well, we shouldn't be maduse when we sat when
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we sat here a year ago, that's when you're mad.
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Because right after that game last year, it was like, oh,
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this is going to cost him. I don't know what
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it's gonna cost him, but it's going to cost him,
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and it obviously cost them the playoff spot.
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If you get the win.
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And you're relatively healthy, and outside of Lucas Patrick there healthy,
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that's all that matters in September.
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Sometimes that's it.
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Now. Are there things to be concerned about? Absolutely? Are
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there things that you wanted to see? And the better
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it looks, the better you feel. I get that, But
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sometimes the bottom line is the bottom line. Did it
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get done or not? And they got it done? And
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would it feel better if it was thirty seven to
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sixteen and not seventeen sixteen, Sure, but it really wouldn't
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have changed much you'd been like, yeah, well we thought
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the offense could score, and yeah, this defense did it.
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But there's against the Browns and Joe Flacco, who's most age.
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You know, so that's slightly younger than you, but a
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little bit, just a tad. Yeah, but you get my point.
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If you're older than Tony Pike, you know you probably
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shouldn't be.
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Joe Flacco was drafted when Tony Pike was still playing football.
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It's insane. That's insane. You're still playing. If they win
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that type of game in December, it's survive in advance.
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Just figure it out. I think because of when the
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game was played, there's I think the are things that
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many will look at as being a little bit more troubling.
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For me, it's it's like it would be in December. Look,
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I will acknowledge offensively, that ain't it. One hundred and
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thirteen from Joe Burrow two net yards in the second half,
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That ain't it. But I've sat here either here in
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Florence each of the last three years talking with you
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about how they lost, why they lost, and what it
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was gonna mean. Look, at the very least, the Baltimore
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Ravens for a week or chasing them. Yep, that's good
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enough for me. Sometimes you gotta get lucky in sports man,
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sometimes you got to get lucky in life. Bengals got
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lucky yesterday to a degree. I'm fine with that. And
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they haven't had that luck in weekly.
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No, it's been the opposite where the Mike is SICKI
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touchdown that wasn't the Tyre Hudson touchdown. That wasn't right,
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and so yeah, maybe this is coming back around for them.
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By the way, you mentioned Joe Brow in the second
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half three of nine for twenty five yards. He was
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eleven and fourteen for eighty eight. Yes, like things were
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looking pretty darn good in that first half. And so
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even with the offense, there are good things about even
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if it was the worst performance, I would say at
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least worst half that I can really remember, because they
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weren't moving the ball at all. Now, you could say
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first half of the Chargers game last year. There are
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other games, yeah, sure, but that's about as bad as
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it gets. I think what was interesting to me is
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the first drive of the game. It's the Chase Brown drive.
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It's seven carries.
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Yep. I put this on social media. I'm probably not
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the only one in the opener. Last year he had
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six touches the entire game. They gave him seven carries
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the first drive. It's effective, and I'm thinking, cool, what
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they're telling Cleveland is, look, man, we've got weaponry on
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the outside that you've got to figure out how to stop.
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Why don't you try to slow down this guy. So
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my thinking is now Cleveland's gonna try to stop Chase Brown,
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and for the rest of the game, they kind of did.
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And the explosiveness from the wideouts never came with that.
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That was I didn't think they were gonna score forty
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five points against the Cleveland Browns. No. I did think
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that once they ran, it was such ease that at
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some point like the next step was this is going
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to open things up on the outs, and that never happened.
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It didn't.
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And what's wild is Chase Brown had twelve carries in
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the first half for forty three yards. Yeah, because how
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many yards he finished.
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With forty three yards?
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He had nine carries zero remarkable and that last drive
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they're trying to waste time and and so he's eaten
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some yards.
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I get that, but man, it.
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It was one of those games are going into it
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I thought that it would be the Chase Brown, Mike
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is SICKI, Andre Josebash, Noah Fan, all these other weapons, Yeah,
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would matter more than Jamar and T because the Cleveland
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Browns are going to focus on those guys.
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And it was.
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And then the Browns figured out how to stop those
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guys and Jamar and T.
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And this includes just didn't do what you would expect
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them to do that which is takeover make a couple
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of plays. I if you would have told me after
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Jordan Battle's interception that the Bengals not only have to
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settle for a field goal there, but don't score again,
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I would have said, well, they're losing, losing this game. Yeah,
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and so they somehow won, so you could feel good
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about that, but also be like, how in the world
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did they not score again?
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So there's my question, how in the world was that
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offense that many believe can be the best in the NFL,
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many believe is the best in the NFL certainly have
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elite weaponry.
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Why did the offense yesterday not work? I think that
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the Browns certainly have the magic elixir to defend this team.
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And what I maybe I put too much value in it.
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I thought all of those other weapons would have counteracted
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that enough for a full game. Fan did for a
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while and it only worked for thirty minutes and then
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whatever went away. And I don't think Joe was that
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good in the second half. He missed Jamari forced it
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to get sick. He miss Jamaal one coming across the middle,
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that would have been an easy conversion in a big
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play him in jamar off on the one where Miles
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Garrett's coming at him and and it's a tough play,
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but usually those are plays they make. Yeah, on the sideline,
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he's wide open and he has to come back and
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then he doesn't get both feet down and I'm not
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putting it on Tee like the ball probably should have
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been out. So I don't think Joe was great in
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the second half. But whatever it was, or whatever it
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is with Cleveland, I do think it's a Cleveland thing
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because they have Miles Garrett. They can pressure you with him,
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They have all these other pieces that you have to
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worry about, and they have sticky corners that are comfortable
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in man and man coverage with Tea and they were
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playing with a lot of confidence. Yes, comfortable and man
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of man covered with Jamar. There aren't many people on
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the planet that are comfortable in that situation, and the
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Browns have at least two guys that are.
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I felt like, with one exception, and maybe I'm wrong
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about this, that every pass that Joe completed was inside
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the hash marks, like the offense was constricted. There was
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nothing towards the sideline, nothing on the outside. Was that
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Cleveland taking that away? It felt like it, for sure.
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But the t ball should have easily been a twenty
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five plus yard gain. You know which one I'm talking about.
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You had to like turn around and out, Yeah, it's
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not a ball you should be meeting to adjust. I
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guess he was trying to protect him from the defender.
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Maybe, but you're right, it was a lot of that.
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It was a lot of quick.
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He completed passes to four different receivers on the opening
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drive and then he completed total passes to seven different guys.
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Andre Josavash doesn't even get a target. Sama JP Ryan
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is one of those guys. He had two catches for
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six yards. It Drew Sample is one of those guys,
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and it was just a target. Like it's just something
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was off and it it's fine because they got the win.
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That can't continue, and I don't think it will, right,
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But it is a little alarming because I look at
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this offense and you added Dalton Reisener who comes in,
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and it's probably an upgrade and pass protection. Yes, they
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should be able to throw on anyone on the any
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team in this league, and they couldn't for a half yesterday.
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They do need to figure out why, because other teams
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are either going to have a Miles Garrett type player
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and be able to do that, or if they don't,
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they're gonna try to emulate it as best they can.
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They had a normal offseason, right, Joe wasn't coming off
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the surgeon's table. There were no hold ends, you know,
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at least on the offensive side of the ball. They
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played in the preseason more than they ever have and
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so I mean to a degree, they won the game,
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and so all right, we're not going to talk about
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slow starts now. If they lose their next three, then
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one in three is a slow start, but we're at
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least not going to talk about not winning the opener.
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I do feel like, though, flash ahead the next offseason.
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No matter what happens between now and mid February. The
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question is going to be what can they do to
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ensure a better offensive performance in Week one? I mean,
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because that's been a thing now for years and we've
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always said, well, it's Burrow coming off the appendectomy, or
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he had a bum calf, or he's not totally comfortable
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because of the wrist. None of those excuses applied yesterday. No,
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and neither did the preseason.
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Right.
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Guess what I don't want to see next year.
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None.
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I don't want to see it. I don't want to
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see Joe in the preseason. No, it's not worth it.
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And he was asked this after the game and he's like, oh,
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we were good in the first half, and it's like, yeah,
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but then the second half happened and it was like
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one of the worst half of your career. Right, I'm
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good on the preseason. Think about how many hits he
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took against Washington, oh Man.
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Watching that game is as nervous as I have been, Yeah,
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watching a preseason football game in my entire life.
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And then he's like, hey, let me get a couple
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drives with the backup skill players.
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Did that help? Yesterday?
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Andre didn't get targeted, right, like Charlie Jones wasn't out
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there getting catches like I don't think I don't think
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we need to see that, so we could put that
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to bed.
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All right. They do win the game yesterday. The defense
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holds Cleveland to US sixteen points. They get a couple
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of turnovers. We'll talk about how Al Golden's unit did
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yesterday when we come back. It's twenty seven away from
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four o'clock or a twin peaks in Westchester. The Moe
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and James Football Show, The James and Mow Football Show
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This report and the Bengals on a pro for a win.
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To get one, they'll have to chold the Jaguars and
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winners yesterday with the Browns seventeen to sixteen. Good news
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is they win plus reasonably good health. Lucas Patrick the
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only player dinged up yesterday. Dalton Reisner is going to
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be the starting right guard for the next sixteen games.
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You hope, you hope? You know that's Lucas Patrick could
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be totally fine. Yep. And I think that's that's my
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takeaway and it's now my wish.
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I think that's gonna happen. I think Dalton Reisner is
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the better pass protector. And guess what, Lucas Patrick can
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back up all three interior spots.
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Yeah. Value in that good get healthy soon the Monday
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night or tonight, Minnesota is at Chicago. You can listen
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to that game on Fox Sports thirteen sixty at six o'clock. Tonight.
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ESPN fifteen thirty has Bengals line with Lance and La. Meanwhile,
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Red's start a nine game road trip tonight in San Diego,
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first of three against the Padres. Nicolodolo and you, Darbysh
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are your pitchers nine to forty tonight on seven hundred WLW.
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Reds did win the last two games of that series
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against the Mets, so Cincinnati is four behind New York.
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They're even with the San Francisco Giants, half game ahead
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of both Arizona and Saint Louis. New York's at Philly tonight,
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Giants and d Backs play each other. Cardinals are in Seattle.
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The Mark Stubes Radio Show is tonight at six on
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Fox Sports thirteen sixty. Ohio State, Penn State, LSU, Oregon,
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Miami one through five. AP Top twenty five College Football
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Poll Coaches Pole has Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, LSU,
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and Oregon one through five. Indiana twenty second in the
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poll seventeen away from four o'clock. It's a Twin Peaks
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James Orpena is in for Tony today. We'll step away.
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We have a lot more to discuss. We have the
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entire Week one slate. We had arguably already the game
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of the year last night in Buffalo.
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Oh.
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I thought you were talking about what happened in Cleveland.
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No, the Aaron Rodgers resurgence in Pittsburgh, which is worth discussing,
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and what went down in Cleveland. We'll talk about a
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defensive performance that I think, for the most part, we
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could feel prett good about. We'll do that when we
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five minute delay from Turfway. I'm at Ezelik with traffic.
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Eleven away from A four. It's the season premiere of
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miss out it. They mailed them all and ESPN fifteen thirty.
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ESPN fifteen thirty. A staple of like the morning after
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a Reds game on the FanDuel Sports Network, or if
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you watch the Reds game the night before, you can
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turn it off and then turn your TV on the
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next day and it's still on the same channel. There's James.
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Good morning. There have been times where you've been on
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after the game, and then the next day when I
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turn it back on, it's the same episode. I'm just
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trying to haunt you.
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It's it.
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You know how many times I've been out somewhere and
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the Reds game has been on, and then like forty
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five minutes after the Reds game, I look up and
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there's James. I like that it is, I like that
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looking down on us from the bar, I dare you
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not order me a shot? Was yesterday's defensive performance? He
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signed that Al Golden's defense is gonna work? Or was
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it they're just merely playing a bad Browns team.
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I actually thought the Browns offense had a great game plan,
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has underrated weapons. I think Cedric Towman well, I think
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he's pretty solid. Jerry Judy is obviously their top guy.
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Would start for the Bengals. Sorry, he would as their
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wide receiver. Three like solid players, not great, but really
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good game plan, solid offensive line, And so for them
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to do what they did in the second half, I
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think you.
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Should be encouraged by that.
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Okay, that doesn't mean that they're going to be world beaters,
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but if they're on their way to being a competent
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defense and better than they were last year, like by
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a significant margin, they do what they did yesterday, that's
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what it looks like.
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It.
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It looks like you're going at and you have to
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stop a forty year old quarterback, and you have to
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force a couple of turnovers, and you have to find
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a way to get off the field. After the Bengals
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take three sacks and you're facing them on the forty
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two yard line. I mean, just forcing a field goal
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there by the way, was a huge win for the defense. Yes,
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so like they deserve a ton of credit for what
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they did. I'm not fully buying it yet. It's one game, sure,
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and it is in Cleveland, and it is against an
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offense that isn't going to be as good as some
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of these offenses that you're going to see, including the
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Jaguars in six days. But it does look like improvement.
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And I don't think they win that game last year.
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I agree with you, defensive improvement has to start somewhere.
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I would rather start week one than week five. I
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think there's a lot of us who thought like and
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this may still play out. We'll see over the next
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three games. But my biggest fear was they lose some
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games early because of their defense. They do get it fixed,
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but at what cost early in the season, you know,
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keeping all these guys from last year. So my thought
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was early in the season, they lose a game because
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Al Golden's defense either couldn't stop anybody, it makes a
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bunch of mistakes. The tackling was much better yesterday. Maybe
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tackling continues to be an issue that didn't happen yesterday,
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So it's the overall improvement that we must see. Everybody says, well,
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they've just got to be league average compared to last year,
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and I agree with that, but it's got to start somewhere.
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My fear after watching them in the preseason was it
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was going to start some time in October. Yeah, and
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one it didn't too.
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I didn't really see the scenario where this would be
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the case where the defense wins them in the game.
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So as weird as it sounds, you would take that
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all day long because that's the the offense has the
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equity built up.
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Sure, they built up a ton of equals.
744
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Sure, I'm not really worried about Joe Burrow being good
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at football, you know what I'm worried about Jordan Battle
746
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and Dax' Hill, Shamar Stewart and anyone really not named
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Trey Hendrickson, even Logan Wilson. Guess what all of those
748
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guys played well yesterday that I.
749
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Just named Shamar Stewart. You you're not going to see
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a number in the sack column, Nope. But he grated
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out well yep, And I felt like I saw him
752
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applying pressure a reasonable amount of time for me to
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feel pretty good about his NFL debut.
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He passed the eye test line. I don't look at
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like the in game PFF scores. A lot of people do.
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And I thought he had played well real time. I
757
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just thought I noticed ninety seven. I thought he was disruptive,
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batted up a couple, batted down a couple of passes.
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One there was a penalty, so that didn't matter. But
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the disruption that I saw in training camp, and I
761
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thought he he had about as good of a training
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camp as we could have expected, given all the situation,
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a contract and all of those things.
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It checks it.
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It lined up with what I saw in training camp,
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what he did yesterday. And so what does that mean?
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That means the Bengals might have a real dude, and
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I think they think they do. And he's just big, strong,
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powerful athletic, and I'm not sure he knows exactly what
770
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he's doing yet fundamentally right technique wise, and when you're
771
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that big, strong, powerful and athletic, it doesn't always matter.
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It's very much like a Marius Mims last year.
773
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He's not an.
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Elite technicians as an offensive lineman, but he's so physically gifted,
775
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and he's got a motor.
776
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This guy, this shamarst he's got a motor. He's gonna go,
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go go.
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That can matter in a big way, especially when everyone's
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worried about ninety one on the other.
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For what it's worth, his NFL debut, he grated according
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to Pro Football Focus, eighty eight point nine yep, which
782
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I think is exactly what Miles Garrett greeted out. I
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didn't know what not. Miles Garrett on that drive close
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to the goal line was otherworldly because he's Miles Garrett.
785
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But to me, like so, they draft him and everybody says, well,
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one and a half sacks last year, four and a
787
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half over his college career, and I go cool, he's
788
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got to finish plays. But he was disruptive. He was,
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And so all I'm looking for is if he's disruptive,
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there will be benefits somewhere. Maybe somebody else runs into
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a sack. Maybe that helps Trey Hendrickson bolster his numbers.
792
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Maybe somebody on the inside. Maybe he forces the quarterback
793
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to throw out of bounds on third down and now
794
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they're punting. Maybe he forces a bad throw and it's
795
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picked off. I saw a guy yesterday capable of doing
796
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those things, even if you know it's the continuation of
797
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him not getting sacks.
798
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Yeah, that's that's exactly right. Who people are gonna hate this,
799
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But who cares if he's not getting sacks. If he's
800
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obviously sacks, great, yes, But if you say, oh, well,
801
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he batted down three passes and had six quarterback hurries.
802
00:36:57.760 --> 00:36:59.400
By the way, if he's doing those things, sacks are
803
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going to come.
804
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Sacks will come.
805
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That is going to happen. He doesn't need to be
806
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:05.719
out there thinking about sacks. It would be like a
807
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.119
hitter at the plate, home run, home run home. I'm
808
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:12.400
fine with singles. I'm fine with singles and doubles. And
809
00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:15.679
on this defensive line, you talk about disruption. Who was
810
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disruptive outside of Trey Hendrickson last year consistently?
811
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Nobody, zero, nobody, none. That is a huge need.
812
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It was my biggest concern about this defense all off season.
813
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.800
Will they be able to get enough pressure? And if
814
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you add a disruptor that should help.
815
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I also thought yesterday went will help the first time
816
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since the twenty twenty three season that while I was
817
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watching the game, I said, hey, man, there's Logan Wilson
818
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making a play. Yes, it's good, And that was one
819
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:45.960
of the themes of the entire offseason with Al Golden
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Logan Wilson, their built in relationship, his emphasis on linebacker
821
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Demitrius Knight made a couple of plays, or Berks made
822
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a nice play in the game yesterday. But yesterday was
823
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the first time that while watching the game, I said
824
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to myself, Man, Logan Wilson is having an impact.
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The reason it was almost like a fact check mid
826
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game because when he left, when he's being evaluated for
827
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a concussion, you felt it right away.
828
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I did.
829
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I was like, oh, I was like this does that
830
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:12.000
feel great? Rret Carter takes a bad angle and it
831
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turns into the Dylan Sampson takes it for like thirteen
832
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yards and it should have been like a game of three,
833
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Like all right, Logan, get back out there. And he's
834
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the only Bengal that, according to PFF, was graded higher
835
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than Shamar Stewart.
836
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:28.719
So there you go, eighty nine point four. There you go.
837
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And so I think I noticed him. I thought he
838
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would look good. And then when when you feel that
839
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in real time and you're like, all right, well that
840
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.320
guy probably played pretty well, and then you see the grades,
841
00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:39.920
it's like, Okay, yeah he played well.
842
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.239
Yeah, the Shamar Stewart thing. I was interested into what
843
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.719
the grading was because again, like you noticed him, but
844
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:48.559
he wasn't finishing plays. I was wondering how PFF would
845
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:51.440
treat him. Logan Wilson. I'm not gonna say I didn't
846
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.880
need the grade, but it was validation of what I
847
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thought I had seen.
848
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:58.440
Sure, he was terrific, and especially with all of the
849
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training camp questions, Hey, is Logan good?
850
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:03.360
Is he done?
851
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:05.039
Is it what it like?
852
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.480
That was a real thing that people were asking and
853
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:10.599
I didn't even really know how to answer. We'll see
854
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because we haven't seen him in a bit and maybe
855
00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.960
he Maybe he was, but he clearly isn't because he
856
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:17.880
played really well yesterday, came back and played well and
857
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:19.519
it was a big part of why they got out
858
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:20.079
of there with the win.
859
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:22.719
I was happy for DJ Turner making the play that
860
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.800
he made because training camp felt like it was so
861
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:26.400
up and down.
862
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:31.000
Yeah yeah, man, people in training camp, but get this
863
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:34.000
little guy get right. I'm like, he was really good
864
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.199
at the end of last year, and it's practice, Like
865
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:41.559
that's what that's the thing, Like when someone's getting toasted
866
00:39:41.599 --> 00:39:42.800
in camp or vice versa.
867
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:43.880
Just making all these catches.
868
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:47.000
It's still practice, right, Like do you talk about how
869
00:39:47.039 --> 00:39:48.679
many points Lebron James going in practice?
870
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:51.960
No, but you you can pay attention to like which
871
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.039
unit they're running with. And a couple of days we
872
00:39:54.119 --> 00:39:56.559
were there and DJ Turner's running with the threes, No doubt.
873
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:59.320
That's not a good indictment against him. No, no, no doubt.
874
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:03.719
In so, you had plenty of questions about him, and
875
00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:05.360
I think you still do. But the thing that he
876
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:07.519
has that Josh Newton doesn't have, and that's who he's
877
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:11.559
competing with for that other spot elite speed, not just
878
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.280
good speed, elite speed. Josh Newton is much much slower.
879
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.079
And I like Josh and I think those four are
880
00:40:16.119 --> 00:40:19.079
gonna be the primary corners with Cam and Dax Hill,
881
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:24.360
that that quartet. But I think Turner, outside of Dax Hill,
882
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.679
this is a take, has the highest ceiling in that
883
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.199
that cornerback room outside of Dax.
884
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:33.280
Yeah, I don't have a problem with that. But by
885
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.320
the way, there's the second round pick, right, she probably
886
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.639
should Yeah, but just like him, Taylor Ritch.
887
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.000
Just a reminder, yeah, just a reminder, and I think
888
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:42.079
his ceiling might be a little higher than Camp. I'm
889
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:43.719
not sure everyone would agree with Cam did not have
890
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.199
a good day. Yes, he had a bad day, And
891
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:45.800
I love Cam.
892
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:47.440
I have no idea.
893
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.800
It felt like so a lot of those Camp practices
894
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:53.679
felt like that for DJ of what we saw with Cam,
895
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:56.039
and so when that happens in practice, it's practice. When
896
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.880
it happens in the game, everyone notices because it matters.
897
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.760
I did think my guy Dax played pretty well. Yeah, Dax,
898
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.719
because I didn't notice him. Pff Gate, You're right, seventy
899
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.119
eight point six. Cam taylor Bridge is a thirty five
900
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.639
point six. What thirty five point six?
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We're at Twin Peaks and West Last bath Tony and
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Second hour of the season premiere of the Tony and
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Mo Football Show, broadcasting today from Twin Peaks in Westchester.
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An absolutely gorgeous afternoon to talk about a Bengals victory.
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They did win. That is a fact. We could disagree
917
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:15.159
on how to interpret, how to react to it, what
918
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:17.599
to make of it, how to dissect it. What is
919
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:21.119
inarguable is that for the first time since twenty twenty one,
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the Bengals won their season opener yesterday seventeen sixteen, beat
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the Browns. We are talking about until six o'clock. Twin
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Peaks in Westchester is very easy to get to. Just
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get off at the Union Center Boulevard exit off I
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seventy five and come in. They've got great wings, good burgers,
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drift beer selection, good bourbon selection, the great staff. TV's
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all over the place. You can watch the Monday night
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football game tonight. You watch from red tonight. You could
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make plans to be here for football this weekend. Twin Peaks.
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We are back here next Monday, and we'll visit the
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Florence location on September the twenty second, and we look
931
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forward to that. Tony is not here today, I'll be
932
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back with me next week and on his show since
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he three sixty tomorrow at noon, pinch hitting as he
934
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always does. In week one, our guy James Orpeene. Then
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goos talk dot com, enter the junk. Oh you're gonna
936
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do it talk you can eat your stuff mentioned and
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locked on banks. There we go, There we go.
938
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:20.880
What do you say when you introduced Tony pikey like
939
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:25.280
eighteen interceptions in the Sugar Bowl, Tim Tebow dance stuff?
940
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.199
Yeah it was it was actually not it wasn't the
941
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Sugar Bowl.
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No what now, Like I gotta call him a Hall
943
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:30.480
of famer.
944
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.159
I know it's it's tough to make fun of him. Now, Yeah,
945
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he can go jacket you.
946
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:37.159
I don't know what I don't. Yeah, I guess they
947
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:38.920
get a red jacket that you see. But yeah, now
948
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:40.440
I have to call him a hall of famer. Yeah
949
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.360
it's a hall of Famer. Well, no it's not. I
950
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.880
still have made fun of him, but I it's it's
951
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his career. It's cut into making fun of his career
952
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:50.800
to a degree which I don't like.
953
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.320
When do you think he's gonna get into the Panthers
954
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.559
Ring of honor? See the bar has moved.
955
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.400
Do they have a ring? After watching Bryce Young yesterday?
956
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They may call Tony backs? They might you know, is
957
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my size?
958
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Let's be honest.
959
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.519
There was a lot of like preseason, like, you know
960
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.280
what Bryce Young last year played Okay, toward the end.
961
00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:10.000
You know what I didn't like, And I get it
962
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was a good trade, like asset wise, don't trade a
963
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.280
veteran receiver when your third year quarterback needs weapons? Correct,
964
00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:19.519
pretty dumb. Yes, it's not about just oh.
965
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:22.400
We get a fourth rone pick for this three. It's
966
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a weapon. Yeah, for a quarterback who desperately needs them.
967
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.280
He needs them desperately and he's five nine right needs weapons.
968
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:30.079
Uh.
969
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:33.119
What would your assessment over the course of the entire
970
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.880
game be the offensive line for the Bengals yesterday.
971
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:39.159
I actually was having this conversation right before I jumped
972
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:41.840
in the card to come here. Okay, solid, Yeah, I
973
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.559
think they were solid, And and there was three straight
974
00:44:44.719 --> 00:44:47.519
sacks and everyone's gonna remember that. Part of that was
975
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:50.320
that that third sack is I don't really think on
976
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.119
them because the Browns are like, hey, you are not
977
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:55.559
gonna have time to throw this ball, bro, so run
978
00:44:55.639 --> 00:45:01.679
some kind of quick game action there. But overall, did
979
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:03.880
I think they held up? Do I think they held
980
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.440
up enough for Joe and this offense to function against
981
00:45:07.760 --> 00:45:10.800
a defensive front that's really darn Gooden has the best player,
982
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.360
I think, best pass pressure in football. They did, and
983
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:17.320
so I thought they were solid, especially when you consider
984
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.440
the fact that they lost an offensive lineman and we're
985
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:22.079
starting a rookie at left guard.
986
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:24.800
Yeah, the three straight sacks. First of all, Burrow makes
987
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:27.360
perhaps the play of the game by diving ahead to
988
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:29.559
avoid a safety, which that won't show up in the
989
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:33.800
box score until then, though I didn't. I always like
990
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.159
judge these things by like, what's my inner dialogue? Yeah right, yes,
991
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.400
my inner dialogue last year was holy crap, Joe's gonna
992
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:40.800
get killed.
993
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:41.079
Yep.
994
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:43.960
There were times he was pressured and had to run.
995
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:47.519
But I didn't watch Yesterday until the very end, going,
996
00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.320
oh my god, Joe's gonna get killed. Now they're playing
997
00:45:50.360 --> 00:45:53.159
with fire. I didn't spend a lot of time having
998
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:56.360
an inner dialogue with myself about the offensive line until
999
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:58.599
that stretch at the end close to the goal line.
1000
00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:01.440
He took some hits, but you're right, it felt like
1001
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.159
a normal football game. It wasn't like, oh my god,
1002
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.360
Myles Garretts on the other side and with overall pick
1003
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.760
Mason Graham and Malie Collins and all these guys.
1004
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:12.039
It wasn't that. And then it was right.
1005
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.079
But outside of that series, which I don't think is
1006
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:18.079
just on the offensive line, I thought they were pretty
1007
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:18.960
pretty solid.
1008
00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:21.880
I thought they were mostly okay in past protection. I
1009
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:23.760
do think you could pick them apart a little bit
1010
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:25.599
for how they struggled to run the ball after that
1011
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:26.119
first drive.
1012
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:31.880
Well, yes, but I don't expect this offensive line to
1013
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:34.679
be great run blockers. That's not why they're here, right,
1014
00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.119
And that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be able to
1015
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:37.480
run the ball.
1016
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:38.199
Of course they should.
1017
00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:42.119
But like forty three yards at halftime for Chase Brown,
1018
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:45.400
m okay, fine, you know he's averaging I forget what
1019
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.559
he was averaging per carry. I have the stat somewhere,
1020
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:52.199
but like at halftime, it felt pretty solid. Yeah, I
1021
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.119
mean he was averaging three six of carry at half right,
1022
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.480
so a little under his long was eight, but like,
1023
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.159
you're okay with that. It's just I really do wonder,
1024
00:47:03.039 --> 00:47:06.280
just offensively as a whole, if they were like, man,
1025
00:47:06.360 --> 00:47:07.920
we are not gonna be able to run what we
1026
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:10.880
normally run because it's Miles Garrett and those corners, and
1027
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:12.400
it just kind of felt like that.
1028
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:13.320
I don't know.
1029
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.320
I don't know if it was almost their choice because
1030
00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:18.400
they didn't want that feeling of Joe's just getting hit
1031
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:21.480
after hit after hit. But at some point you gotta
1032
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:23.039
be true to who you are as well, and so
1033
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.800
I do wonder how much of that came into play.
1034
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.519
You know how many folks on social media reacting when
1035
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.159
the Bengals acquired Noah fan right, which was, well, he's
1036
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.679
not a guard, And my take was, no, he's not.
1037
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.400
And if the Noah fan of guards becomes available, then
1038
00:47:38.679 --> 00:47:41.079
go get him right, and you might argue Dalton Reisner
1039
00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:43.920
was basically the Noah fan of guards. Yep, that move
1040
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.559
paid dividends yesterday, and I think we'll pay dividends across
1041
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.840
the course of the season. Yeah, he's their best tight end.
1042
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:51.480
Feels like it he is.
1043
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.480
He's their most complete now, Mike get sick. He's more dynamic,
1044
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:56.800
but he's a wide receiver as a route runner. Yeah,
1045
00:47:56.880 --> 00:47:59.000
but he's a wide receiver. But yeah, but Fan is
1046
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:03.400
a better blocker, is someone that is certainly is better
1047
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:04.960
after the catch and after contact.
1048
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:07.360
And he did have a drop yesterday, but you know
1049
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:08.159
that's a tough one.
1050
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:11.480
It is going nowhere. Yes, agree, it's going nowhere. I'm
1051
00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:12.800
fine with the drop. But you're right, that was the
1052
00:48:12.840 --> 00:48:16.559
only in completion on that opening drive. I believe, so no,
1053
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:21.360
Fan good, Yes, you know what maybe when and I
1054
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:23.559
know it's it's it's such a punch, Oh, James, you
1055
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:24.760
want them to go after this.
1056
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:26.800
Guy or go after that guy.
1057
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.920
I love these veteran editions because they've all mattered and
1058
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:35.719
usually usually if you do that, they're gonna matter for you.
1059
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:41.159
We've seen depth get tested everywhere. Right, Fan mattered, Riisner mattered,
1060
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:43.960
and Mike Pennell panel mattered.
1061
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:46.199
Yeah, and played a fair amount yesterday he played a
1062
00:48:46.239 --> 00:48:51.199
fair amount. Yeah, twenty the fan thing for me, I mean,
1063
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.639
there have been tight ends in this offense have been
1064
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.000
very productive in that role behind Chase and Higgins that
1065
00:48:58.159 --> 00:49:01.400
have become fan favorites. Yes, right, yep. Hayden Hurst. Yeah,
1066
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:06.159
you know is better than Hayden. He is Usama better
1067
00:49:06.159 --> 00:49:10.239
than c Uzama. Yes, you know, IRV Smith really didn't
1068
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:14.559
work out. He ran ran like me. But like I'm going, okay,
1069
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.320
this guy can't serve in that role, especially if you
1070
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.400
look at how they use mi Keasiki. And so I
1071
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:23.400
felt a degree of validation because Noah Fan played well
1072
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:23.920
you should have.
1073
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:26.079
You should And I remember hearing you say, well, if
1074
00:49:26.159 --> 00:49:30.159
if there's a guard that is of that egal talent.
1075
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.920
You can't hold against players what they're not. Unfortunately, no
1076
00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:35.000
a Fan doesn't play guard, that doesn't mean you can't
1077
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:35.840
use another tight end.
1078
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:37.760
And the Bengals should always be in the talent business.
1079
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.559
Also, last year in the draft, they took two One
1080
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.239
guy's no good, the other guy unfortunately he can't play.
1081
00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:45.199
Eric Hall and they never should have taken the second guy.
1082
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.639
Right, So if if tight end was in need, then
1083
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.000
and the two guys they haven't, the two guys they
1084
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.000
took can't help you this year, Why is tight end
1085
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:53.719
not still in need? They might have had.
1086
00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:57.360
One of the worst tight end rooms in the league
1087
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.760
before adding no Offan like that was a yeah, huge need. Sure,
1088
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:03.480
Like outside of guard that's the biggest need on offense
1089
00:50:03.559 --> 00:50:03.920
by far.
1090
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.320
I asked you on draft day, yep, right, and I like,
1091
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.800
there's only there's only six picks, so they're not going
1092
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:11.599
to take a tight end. I assume they were taking
1093
00:50:11.639 --> 00:50:13.920
a safety. But I said to you, like, I feel
1094
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:16.199
like that's a position that we're not talking about at all.
1095
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.679
Understanding Mike Yasicki is good at his job. His job
1096
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:21.840
is not in line tight end, no doubt. So they
1097
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:23.920
have Drew Sample, who's fine for a blocker, but they
1098
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.280
need someone who sort of is is not Drew Sample,
1099
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.639
but not Mikeasiki. It took him four months to get one.
1100
00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:33.239
But it was I thought, not a glaring need, but
1101
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:36.480
an under discussed need back in April. Why wouldn't it
1102
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:38.800
be one in July or August? Do you think they
1103
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:40.039
win that game without no offense?
1104
00:50:40.119 --> 00:50:40.159
No?
1105
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:40.719
I don't.
1106
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:41.679
I don't think so either.
1107
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:42.719
I don't. I really don't.
1108
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:46.960
As weird as that in those are those moves on
1109
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:49.599
the margin that kind of go into the radar, Everyone's like, oh, well,
1110
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.639
they signed Joe and Jamar and they got trade on
1111
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.199
like the no offense matters, and he's going to matter,
1112
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:59.079
And I think he is certainly their most complete tight
1113
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:01.880
end and in a allows you to operate the way
1114
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:03.440
you did with eric All to a degree. I think
1115
00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.000
he's better. He's better with the ball in his hands
1116
00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:07.679
and as a pass catcher than eric All and probably
1117
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:08.519
not as good as a black.
1118
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:10.280
I hope eric All gets a chance to play in
1119
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:13.199
the NFL because I I do too love and he's
1120
00:51:13.239 --> 00:51:16.079
working toward it. Everything about him last year I mean,
1121
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:18.320
like I would joke about this on the show that
1122
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.039
that's the kind of tight end they've been looking for
1123
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.920
literally my entire adult life. Yeah, in terms of just
1124
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:27.039
skill set and what he you know, he kind of
1125
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:29.079
remade how they deployed personnel less.
1126
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.840
No doubt, right, no doubt. And that's that's what I think.
1127
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:33.559
That's what they saw is I can do some of
1128
00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:37.079
this with Fan. But what sold me on eric All
1129
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:40.000
is you know everyone's talking about the route running and
1130
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:43.519
he's the IOWA tight end and like he's just dynamic.
1131
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:43.960
As a pass catcher.
1132
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:48.039
He was like, man, I love blocking, Yeah, I love
1133
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:52.000
running into these dudes, and like that is that's his mentality.
1134
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:53.719
I'm like, man, if you're that good at pass catching,
1135
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:56.199
and he wasn't fully developed isn't fully developed yet but
1136
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:58.760
still really good at it and you want to block.
1137
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.760
Like, I'll tell you what sold me on him. We
1138
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:04.239
had his tight ends coach at Iowan, who's a former
1139
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.360
Bengal at dul Hodge, and I said, I asked him,
1140
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.400
I go, you coached Sam Laporta. Sam Laporta came from
1141
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:13.280
Iowa and Eric All replaced him. And I goes like,
1142
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:16.199
all right, tough comparison, but like, how would you compare
1143
00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:19.480
him to Sam Laporta? And without hesitation, He's like, oh,
1144
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:22.960
he's better. I mean, like you know, and okay, he's
1145
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:25.920
maybe playing to the local audience. And I'm like, oh, really, okay, cool,
1146
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:28.880
And then like watching him last year, I felt awful
1147
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:30.880
for him that he went through another series of knee
1148
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.079
issues and I hope, I hope he gets a shot
1149
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:35.719
at it. But like, if I can't have Eric Hall,
1150
00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:40.039
Noah Fense seemed to me and seems to me like a.
1151
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:43.880
Reasonable replacement, Yeah, for sure, with much more experience for
1152
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:46.960
a team that needs to win now. And for Eric All,
1153
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.800
he wants to get paid, so you know, so like
1154
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:53.119
get a chance to win a ring and put up
1155
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:54.679
numbers and show what you can do in an offense
1156
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:56.159
that you haven't been in. He hasn't been able to
1157
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.639
play in an offense like this. I also think Eric
1158
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:00.960
All will ge shot Hope.
1159
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:03.760
So I just physically physically and like if you're no
1160
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:06.039
a fan, like coming here was a no brainer because
1161
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.599
the list of tight ends who have gotten paid because
1162
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:11.360
of Joe Burrow, like when they're like, well he left
1163
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:14.000
without a deal, He's gonna go somewhere else, It's like, buddy,
1164
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:18.159
and I think he went to New Orleans, right, New.
1165
00:53:18.159 --> 00:53:22.320
Orleans and then Miami. Oh, and I think he's won.
1166
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:24.800
I think he took a little less, but I think
1167
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:26.159
he's like happy about his decisions.
1168
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:28.559
My bold prediction you mentioned Miami. Here's my bold prediction
1169
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:31.440
for the season right now. On Sunday, December twenty first,
1170
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:35.199
Bengals v. Dolphins is slated for Sunday Night Football. That
1171
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:36.800
game will occur with the sun out.
1172
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:37.880
Wow.
1173
00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:42.320
The Miami Dolphins yesterday with lou An Arumo nearly pitching
1174
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:45.159
a shutout against him awful. I don't know how Mike
1175
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:48.159
McDaniels does a job. Really, Yes, you think one game,
1176
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:51.119
one game, one game, we already look, is it over?
1177
00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:54.679
It's over? They were that that game week What is
1178
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.719
that sixteen? That's not fifteen? That game will not be
1179
00:53:57.800 --> 00:54:01.400
in prime time. You sure that's a three win team.
1180
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:04.079
They're not putting a three a three win team. Yeah,
1181
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:05.199
it's a three win.
1182
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:07.400
Team with Tyreek and Waddle and Tua.
1183
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:11.920
And I watched Luanna Roue run circles around those dudes yesterday.
1184
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:16.639
The Colts. He's a mad scientist. Yeah, they might. They'll
1185
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:20.039
probably win more than three games. That game is not
1186
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:20.960
going to be in prime time.
1187
00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:24.760
Okay, I'll adjust my schedule. NBC doesn't want to put
1188
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:27.920
I would much rather have Sunday Night available in Miami.
1189
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:31.480
This is the Dolphins from early two years ago. Yes,
1190
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:36.119
I haven't looked at the that slate that weekend. There's
1191
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:37.920
gonna have to be a more appealing game. Not that
1192
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:40.519
Burrow hasn't been great television. The Bengals will be in
1193
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:42.840
the hunt. They're not gonna put the Miami Dolphins on
1194
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.920
prime there's my my bold prediction for the No, he's
1195
00:54:46.960 --> 00:54:50.599
not he's not as goofy coach. Isn't that good? That
1196
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.039
roster is not very good.
1197
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:54.039
He is kind of goofy. He is kind of goofy,
1198
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:56.760
and I like goofy. I'm goofy, goofy. Things work when
1199
00:54:56.800 --> 00:55:01.360
you're winning. Yes, that's why coaches are boring. Yes, because
1200
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:04.519
when because when you're not winning, man, it just feels, Yeah,
1201
00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:06.719
I might get all the carries, you might not get
1202
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:08.880
any of the carries. Well, no one's gonna get carries.
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If you put up three points, whatever you did, correct,
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00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:13.480
would they finish with they scored a touchdown?
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00:55:13.519 --> 00:55:15.039
Did? Did they get it? A touch they got on
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00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.119
the ends? Only I know it was like eighty to nothing.
1207
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:20.480
A yeah, it was because I almost tweeted lou Anrumo's
1208
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:23.400
pitching the shutout and then it didn't and didn't. I
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00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:25.280
feel like that's that's gonna make it seem like I
1210
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:28.119
really want him back. But lou had a good day yesterday.
1211
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:31.599
No, I don't after yesterday, that's what you're you're thinking
1212
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:32.039
about Lou.
1213
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:34.440
I'm fine with Al Golden. I just thinking about lou
1214
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.800
Lo's defense against Miami performed well yesterday. I think that's
1215
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:41.119
mainly a function of how awful the Dolphins were.
1216
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:43.840
Do you think that Al Golden's defense will perform just
1217
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:45.199
as well on Week fifteen?
1218
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:48.719
It's a high bar. I feel better about that proposition
1219
00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:51.440
after watching him in a regular season game yesterday. Yeah,
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00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:53.960
now they have a lot a long way to go.
1221
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:57.239
We'll see what happens when they, you know, go up
1222
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.159
against a team that can throw the ball downfield. I mean,
1223
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.079
we'll see what happens in tougher it or tough environments,
1224
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:06.000
or in big games against high end quarterbacks. Can they
1225
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:08.840
get off the field. You know, a situation like Baltimore
1226
00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:13.679
faced yesterday where they go three and out, Derrick Henry fumbles,
1227
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.519
they go three and out again, and John Harball says,
1228
00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:18.639
my defense needs to win the game for me, and
1229
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:22.280
they didn't. Can al Golden's defense win in that situation
1230
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:23.880
against a high end quarterback?
1231
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:24.400
Go for it?
1232
00:56:25.039 --> 00:56:28.400
Well, yes, go for it. But like, sure, there you
1233
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.039
could say the defense rose to the occasion yesterday, Yes,
1234
00:56:31.199 --> 00:56:34.079
against Joe Flacco. Sure, No, I get that. I get that.
1235
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:35.320
I'm just saying I would go for it.
1236
00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:37.920
Well, we're gonna talk about that when we come back.
1237
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:40.840
It's twenty one after four. There was a situation yesterday.
1238
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:41.920
I thought Zach shually went for it.
1239
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:44.599
We'll talk about that as well. I don't think it's
1240
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:45.519
the same one you're thinking of.
1241
00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:50.480
Okay, I'm interested Now I'm interested. Gotcha, there's the hook.
1242
00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:52.920
Now I'm interested. That's a great tease. It's twenty one
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00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:56.599
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00:56:56.760 --> 00:56:59.920
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00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:01.599
Let's go Bengals beat the Brown seventeen sixteen. The moment
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00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:04.119
where you wanted Zach Taylor to go for it yesterday
1263
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:09.400
was what see if we agree? Do you like punting? No,
1264
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:10.719
you don't.
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00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:15.239
Do you like punting when you're on the other side
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00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:17.360
of the fifteen when you're on the plus side?
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00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:17.639
No?
1268
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:21.400
Okay, no, well he did, yes, and it was fourth
1269
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:25.760
and seven I believe it was, And uh, yeah, that
1270
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:27.880
was one. In real time, I was like, oh, I would,
1271
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.960
I would definitely go for it here, and I'll look
1272
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:32.960
up the exact scenario here so I make sure that
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00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:33.639
I'm so.
1274
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.760
That was on the drive after Cleveland scored their first touchdown. Yeah,
1275
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:40.800
because it's it's it's that was it? Nine thirty six left?
1276
00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:43.880
The one that I second right there, get out of here,
1277
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:48.519
the same one in plus territory. I rarely want to punt.
1278
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:50.920
I would have treated that third down. And I said
1279
00:58:50.920 --> 00:58:54.159
it at third down like like you were going for
1280
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:56.760
it on fourth down. Doesn't mean you don't go for it, right,
1281
00:58:57.079 --> 00:58:59.000
Just know you're going forward on fourth down because unless
1282
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:01.400
you take a sack there, right, there's no reason a punt.
1283
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:04.400
And they punt and you have a nut of twenty
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00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:10.159
two yards, none of twenty two yards. Yes, so yeah,
1285
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:12.000
that's the one I would have went for it. Man, No,
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00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:13.440
we're on the same pigd me like a book.
1287
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:16.960
It's it's not like set in stone that you never
1288
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:19.639
put on the other side of the fifty. Yeah, but
1289
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:24.079
pretty frequently what I see teams do that, I cringe
1290
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:26.199
when I see the Bengals do that forty two yards line. Yeah,
1291
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:29.880
with Joe Burrow with this weaponry. Yeah, at the forty.
1292
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.880
Two the Browns are like, thank you. Yes, that's that's
1293
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:34.000
how you can kind of judge you.
1294
00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:36.480
Exactly you're doing. You're doing what the other coach wants
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00:59:36.519 --> 00:59:38.559
you to do. If you ask Kevin Stefanski, what do
1296
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.800
you want the Bengals to do here? All right, he
1297
00:59:40.840 --> 00:59:42.320
would have said, well, you know, put it away.
1298
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:44.320
Yeah, fourth and seventeen he'd take go for it, Yes,
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00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:45.960
fourth and seven, he'd take punt right.
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00:59:47.639 --> 00:59:50.559
Wow, my gentleman named Dave. Because a lot of folks
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00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:52.920
wonder this, Joe Burrow doesn't quarterback sneak a lot. Now,
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00:59:53.000 --> 00:59:54.480
it's not that he's never done it. He did it
1303
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:57.760
against Denver last year, scored a touchdown. He did it
1304
00:59:57.840 --> 01:00:02.280
in the the Baltimore playoff win rubble in the Jungle game,
1305
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:04.960
but by and large, Joe Burrow doesn't quarterback sneak a lot.
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01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:08.440
Bengals have had long standing third and one issues, and
1307
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:10.480
I got an email here from a guy named Dave
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01:00:10.519 --> 01:00:13.000
who says, why does this continue to plague the offense
1309
01:00:13.039 --> 01:00:16.199
short yarded situations? I don't know. I wish I know.
1310
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:18.920
That's why you're the experts. No, I don't know why
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01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:20.239
it plagues then because.
1312
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:22.039
You're one.
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01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.320
I think he's willing to quarterback sneak. I don't think
1314
01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:24.960
that's an issue.
1315
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:27.840
The Eagles game last year, in moments where it felt
1316
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:29.719
like this is a quarterback sneak, they didn't.
1317
01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:33.039
Yeah, and they've tried it at times too, And I
1318
01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.039
just I wonder if that the injuries are in the
1319
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:37.239
back of their mind in general. Mahomes got hurt a
1320
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.360
few years ago. Sure, quarterbacks, it's more than a few
1321
01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:41.400
years ago now, probably five years ago. On quarterback sneak,
1322
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:46.599
I don't know. It's twofold.
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01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:46.800
One.
1324
01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:49.639
I don't know why they they don't quarterback sneak enough. Two,
1325
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:51.800
they've had these short yarded issues for years.
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01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:52.960
That has to change.
1327
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:57.000
And you're hoping now that with Dylan Fairchild and Dalton
1328
01:00:57.039 --> 01:00:59.280
Reisner along with take care of as that changes, because
1329
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:02.159
that's really the yeah of your offensive line that you're
1330
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:04.920
leaning on. And then the other element here is just
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01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:09.840
offense wise, scheme wise, what are they doing in third
1332
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:12.920
and fourth and short that hasn't worked and how do
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01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:14.920
they solve it? And that's up to them to solve.
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01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:17.400
We haven't seen enough of this team to say that
1335
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.639
they're bad in those situations. Obviously they need to be
1336
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.559
better than they were last year. And I did see
1337
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:25.880
a lot of a lot of shotgun in those third fourth,
1338
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:29.800
which if you get it, fine, but you got to understand,
1339
01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:31.719
like that's that's something that they've certainly done.
1340
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:34.280
So what's interesting to me is I this morning I
1341
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:38.880
googled Bengals short yardage problems and there have been pieces
1342
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:42.719
written about this every year for the last four seasons. Yeah,
1343
01:01:43.519 --> 01:01:46.119
that doesn't include this year, and it does include the
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01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:48.719
Super Bowl year. So this has been a recurring theme.
1345
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:50.800
And it's not just like third and inches. It's third
1346
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.159
and two. Yeah, it's second and one. You know, these
1347
01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:55.760
situations where you've just got to pick up a couple
1348
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:58.840
I do not know over that span of time excuse me,
1349
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:00.440
over that span of time and we can look it
1350
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:03.920
up how the Bengals relate to the rest of the league.
1351
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.480
But short yardage issues have become something we have talked
1352
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.880
about a lot, and I'm not sure yesterday did anything
1353
01:02:09.960 --> 01:02:11.159
to end that.
1354
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:14.320
No, I don't think it did. I think now, I
1355
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:17.039
think that's a tough front, sure, for sure. Yeah, and
1356
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:19.599
they were clearly like I were not gonna get bullied
1357
01:02:19.639 --> 01:02:21.559
like we did in the first half, and certainly on
1358
01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:22.159
the first drive.
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01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:24.199
But you even you would even see at times last
1360
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:26.360
year where they would try stuff like jet sweeps for
1361
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:29.599
Jamar who, as great as he is, couldn't get the yard. Oh,
1362
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:31.880
and I hate that, you know, they would try. No,
1363
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:36.239
they would try other stuff, and at times I would go, yeah,
1364
01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:38.440
let's why don't we just try to get the yard. Yeah,
1365
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:40.719
have the quarterback take it, give it the chase, you know,
1366
01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:42.280
give it to one of the other running backs. Heck,
1367
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:44.199
my guy, Taj Brooks, that's why he should be on
1368
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:44.559
the team.
1369
01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:50.079
They they they certainly from a sneak standpoint, only do
1370
01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:52.719
it against certain looks. I would say that that's definitely
1371
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:56.320
been a theme where if the defense is expecting a sneak.
1372
01:02:56.639 --> 01:02:58.400
They don't just say we're doing it anyway. That toush
1373
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:00.719
push thing seems to work. Can we put one of
1374
01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:05.079
those in the book with Joe Jalen Hurts is different
1375
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.199
than Joe Burrow, no doubt about it. But I mean, like,
1376
01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:14.880
all right, use it like use it occasionally, like you can't, Jake.
1377
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:15.760
Browning, get out there, Jake Browning.
1378
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:18.320
Like everybody else, including our guy Dave here, I just
1379
01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:20.639
want the Bengals to have a higher success rate on
1380
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.920
short yardage, and I do think they've tried some other
1381
01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:27.480
stuff and it feels like it hasn't worked. I agree
1382
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:27.639
with that.
1383
01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:30.599
I mean, with third and one, Burrow goes deep to
1384
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:33.639
Jamar should have should I could have, would have didn't
1385
01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:38.719
work out. I'm not gonna knock that, I mean, but yes,
1386
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:43.800
it's uh, it's those type of situations I think where
1387
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:48.440
some are like, eh, well, but honestly, just got a
1388
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.920
block better at the end of the day, Like I'm
1389
01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.039
not trying to be you know, but but there's the
1390
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:56.079
common denominator. They haven't had good offensive lines, no doubt,
1391
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.480
which is why short yardage is a recurring issue every year.
1392
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:03.440
And so fair chat, which well certainly Yeah, we'll see
1393
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.280
if a third rounder and a guy who signed eleven
1394
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:07.599
days ago now can solve it.
1395
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:10.840
Yeah, I mean that's what you're saying. But Ted Carros
1396
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:13.119
gets one more year on his deal, very quietly snuck
1397
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:16.719
that in late last week. Has there been a player?
1398
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:20.639
First of all, he's a solid player, right, He's I
1399
01:04:20.679 --> 01:04:22.599
think he's gonna benefit from not having to clean up
1400
01:04:22.679 --> 01:04:26.119
you know, Alex Kappa's messes last year. But a guy
1401
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.360
who has and this is like more off field stuff
1402
01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:30.480
because I know you've had a relationship with him, who
1403
01:04:30.559 --> 01:04:33.079
has done such a good job of wrapping his arms
1404
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:36.599
around this city the way Ted Carriss has and becoming
1405
01:04:37.199 --> 01:04:40.960
a fan favorite as a center. No, that'll never.
1406
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.159
Happened, no one, Yeah, but literally no one. I mean
1407
01:04:43.199 --> 01:04:49.039
he's on a really unique path. I think everything he's
1408
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:51.000
done off the field, all the good he's doing off
1409
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:53.239
the field, and then all of the good he's doing
1410
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:55.559
on I mean, he he brought stability to a spot
1411
01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:59.239
that was a huge Ted Krris plays in the Super Bowl.
1412
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:02.760
Who knows, right, Like that's how close it was, And
1413
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:06.760
so yeah, he's brought stability there. And honestly, I think
1414
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:10.679
if I bet his agent and I don't know this.
1415
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:13.360
I'm just purely speculating because I'm not going to put
1416
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:15.800
Ted in this situation. I bet his agent would have said,
1417
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:18.519
why would you take this deal? Play this year out?
1418
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:21.599
We're gonna get you more elsewhere or from the Bengals. Yeah,
1419
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:23.239
but your market's going to be higher, and he's like, nah,
1420
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:25.920
I love he can't sell since he hats in another town,
1421
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:30.960
no doubt. But I think he said, hey, I love Cincinnati. Yeah,
1422
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:33.000
let's just get this done for the peace of mind
1423
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:36.480
element because one year, five million, right, it's pretty team friendly.
1424
01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:38.920
No question. I just I was thinking about that when
1425
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:41.039
I saw the release on Friday that they did that,
1426
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.360
and I like, that's that's a move that makes sense
1427
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:47.320
football wise. Yea, And everybody celebrates it. And I think
1428
01:05:47.360 --> 01:05:49.159
it has as much to do with just him as
1429
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:51.599
a guy as him as a center. It's it's hard
1430
01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:55.920
to become, you know, a popular player when you play center. Yeah.
1431
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:58.960
Early on, like a year into it, I was like,
1432
01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:01.320
can you believe Ted, you've only been here for a year.
1433
01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:01.719
Yeah?
1434
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:03.280
And then I was like, Ted, you've only been here
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for two years? Yeah, that's run its course now because
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it's over three years it's over the three year mark, right,
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01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:09.800
but it's only been three years. Yeah, And Ted Carris
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01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.320
is like in the fabric he is of being a
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01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.719
bank like he's in commercials with Sam Hubbard, the Cincinnati kid,
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01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:18.800
like you know, and he was a free agent signe
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01:06:19.159 --> 01:06:22.519
who has spent the majority of his career elsewhere. And
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01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:25.280
yet yeah, he's gonna be here for well, this is
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01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:28.599
your four and then yeah, year five, next.
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01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:31.840
Year twenty three. Away from five o'clock, we will go
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01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:35.199
around the NFL, specifically the AFC North. We'll talk about
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01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:39.159
the Jags as well, who beat the aforementioned Carolina Panthers.
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01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:40.400
Bryce Young is still looking.
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01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:44.719
Up five o'clock Tony m Football Show. James is in
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01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:47.320
for Tony this week. Twin Peaks in Westchester. Brendan and
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01:06:47.360 --> 01:06:50.400
Jones on baseball coming up as well. On ESPN fifteen thirty,
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01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:51.400
Cincinnati Sports Station.
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01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:56.280
You've been listening to football in the NATI on ESPN
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01:06:56.519 --> 01:07:04.920
fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Thank Cincinnati's
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01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:10.719
ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic from the UC Health Traffic Center.
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and behavior. You see health addiction services can help call
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five one, three, five, eight, five nine seven two to
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01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:24.920
two westbound Norwood Lateral left the lane blocked from an
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01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:28.159
accident between Reading and Paddock Road, eight five minutes to
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01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:32.360
lay back from Montgomery Road. Another accident northbound seventy one
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01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:36.039
approaching Ridge that's blocking the left two lanes, and westbound
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seventy four an accident before Cleves Hamilton, and that he's
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like with traffic.
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to yours for life, kelseyshev dot Com. Any Bengals news today,
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anything that happened, anything that was said.
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Lucas Patrick is going to miss a few weeks, Okay,
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megone injured reserve.
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Okay, that's I feel bad for Lucas because I do too.
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In a rough go Hey Lucas, And what's wild is
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01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:17.119
is like I think he was better than can then
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what people thought.
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01:08:19.680 --> 01:08:22.439
Well, adult risers better. Bengals will host The Jags on
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Sunday Hit one Live on ESPN fifteen thirty ESPN fifteen
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thirty Tonight has Bengals line with Lance and Lamps starting
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01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:33.560
at six o'clock. Monday Night Football Tonight NFC North tilt
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between the Bears and Vikings in Chicago. You can listen
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01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:40.399
to it on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. Reds and Padres tonight,
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first of three in San Diego. Red's beginning a non
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01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:47.399
game road trip. Cincinnati is four behind the Mets after
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taking two out of three from New York. My guy
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01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:53.520
Hunter Green got terrific yesterday. Yeah, they've won four of
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01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:55.560
his five starts since the All Star Break. He struck
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out twelve yesterday. It keeps the Reds alive at least
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little bit. New York is at Philly tonight. Tonight. For
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the Reds, it's Nicolodolo and you Darvish. Cincinnati four behind
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01:09:07.279 --> 01:09:09.800
the Mets. New York is at Philly tonight. Cincinnati is
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01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:13.159
even with San Francisco, A Giants play the Diamondbacks. Reds
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are a half game in front of the Cardinals, who
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are at Seattle tonight. Ohio State, Penn State, LSU, Oregon
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01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:21.560
Miami won through five AP Top twenty five College Football poll.
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Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, LSU, Oregon one through five
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01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:27.680
and the Coaches Pole. Indiana checks in at twenty second
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in the AP poll, nineteenth in the Coaches Poll. Mark
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01:09:31.119 --> 01:09:34.439
Stooms talks about Kentucky's loss to Old Miss on the
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Mark Stoops Radio Show that's at six o'clock on Fox
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01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:41.920
Sports thirteen sixty. It's time now for the hard hit
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01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:44.760
of yesterday's game. Third and nine.
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01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:49.279
The Bengals cannot give up a first down here, Samar
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01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:51.880
Stewart in to rush the quarterback. Flack go back to
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01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:55.479
throw pump fakes, black House sitting around. He will be
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01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:59.880
sacked at the nineteen yard line. Two Bengals were there,
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01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:03.840
bj Hill and Trey Hendrickson and the Browns will have
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01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:06.479
to settle for the field goal try. And that makes
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01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:09.760
it a little bit longer, more like the length of
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01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:12.039
the extra point that Schmidt missed.
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01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:17.119
Dan Horde, Dave Lappeen, Bengals Radio Network and ESPN fifteen
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01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:20.600
thirty spoiler alert. Austin Andrew Schmidt would go on to
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01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:22.479
miss the thirty six yard field goal. The field goal
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01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:25.520
try was forced. They officially gave bj Hill the sack.
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01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:28.079
That is yesterday's hard hit of the game. It is
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brought to you by Hawksworth Blood Centers, Hawksworth Donors, save
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01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:36.479
lives close to home. Who will you save? Here's my take.
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01:10:36.520 --> 01:10:41.840
Go ahead, you said Andrew Schmidt, Andre Andre Schmid. You
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01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:43.199
better get his name right. If you're going to say
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01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.319
that last name I wrote. His name, Schmidt is not
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01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:47.840
as z Myt. I'll say it.
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01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:50.079
I wrote it, I wrote Andre, and that I wrote
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01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:53.560
the correct spelling of Schmidt on my notes. Sorry, no way,
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01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:56.199
that's how you pronounce that. I looked it up as
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01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:02.239
z m y multiple places this morning. Yes, Schmidt, Come on, man,
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01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:04.680
I'm just telling you what the Internet told me. I'm
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01:11:04.680 --> 01:11:07.119
not blaming you. It just like come on, yeah, but
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01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:09.359
they're saying that to him, and my last name is Rupine.
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01:11:09.399 --> 01:11:13.000
I don't say it's pronouncer Williams like it's not even close.
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01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:16.399
It's not even close, Like, oh well, actually I'm from
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01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:18.359
this part of the world, Like, no, don't do that,
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01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:19.920
it's s z Schmidt.
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01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:25.000
I'm always gonna remember there's no d. I'm always gonna
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01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:28.079
remember the season opener of the twenty twenty five season
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01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:31.000
as the game the Bengals won because the Browns, with
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01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.199
a kicker who doesn't have enough vowels in his name,
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01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:37.239
missed two kicks Andre that when they brought him on
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01:11:37.279 --> 01:11:40.680
the field. I'm like, w how do you say that? Yeah, Schmidt,
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01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:41.600
that's how you.
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01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:45.880
Say someone's gonna And it says it here on Cleveland
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01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:47.439
Browns dot com pronounced SMI.
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01:11:47.439 --> 01:11:51.079
Right, that's the that's I looked up. I looked up.
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01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:53.399
I just spelled his name and wrote pronunciation and that's
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01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:55.800
the first piece that came up because it looks like
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01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:02.640
smitt smite. Yeah, all right, I didn't think that are
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01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.920
gonna called himself unemployed. If he keeps a missing kids,
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01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:09.640
you're gonna get one more shot. A lot more on
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01:12:09.680 --> 01:12:11.800
the Bengals. We'll look ahead of the Jacksonville game. We'll
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01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:14.399
talk about what went down last night in Buffalo. What
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01:12:14.720 --> 01:12:17.039
many are wondering could be the the game of the
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01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:20.720
year Week one in the NFL. What's that look for?
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01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:24.880
It's just Raves, Ravens, Bills, crown him. If you want
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01:12:24.880 --> 01:12:26.000
to crown him and crown him.
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01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:28.640
Then my guess is there will be other games that
1553
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:30.960
we go that's probably the game of the year. But
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01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:33.359
that's a pretty good clubhouse leader, it is. It was
1555
01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:34.319
a great game last night.
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01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:36.000
Denver's on the schedule at the end of the month.
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01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:39.039
Denver is on the schedule. The Broncos yesterday turn the
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01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:40.600
ball over four times, win by eight.
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01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:41.000
Yeah.
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Now, those of us who were burned last year by
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01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.039
the Bengals Week one in Survivor Pools decided this year
1562
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:49.600
we're going heavy on the Broncos. I was gonna quit
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01:12:49.640 --> 01:12:52.880
Survivor Pools forever had Denver lost that game. I don't
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01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:56.439
bow Knicks was not great yesterday. The Broncos weren't great yesterday.
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01:12:56.439 --> 01:12:57.640
Bengals do go there at the end of.
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01:12:57.680 --> 01:12:59.720
You know what, I'm really excited about the offseason and
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01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:03.720
the man Sean Payton thinks this is the best team
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01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:08.199
he's ever had tour. I've heard that from every national
1569
01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:11.159
Oh Mike, Sean Payton just can't stop raving about And
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01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:13.000
they may be great. I'm not saying that. I was
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01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:13.760
just sick of hearing it.
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01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:16.159
I get he's talking his team up. Does he know
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01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:18.039
he coached some terrific teams.
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01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:21.199
Bo Nicks isn't Drew Brees all right, you.
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01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:23.319
Want my hot take, I think bo Nix is Andy
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01:13:23.399 --> 01:13:26.880
Dalton where it's like year one, you're like, man, that's
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01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:28.920
a good rookie year. And then he's probably never going
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01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:32.520
to be that much better. That's that's way closer than
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01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:35.520
Drew Brees, right, and way closer. He could play for
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01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:36.720
a long time as.
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01:13:36.640 --> 01:13:38.680
And but by the way, Andy Dalton was Sean Payton
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01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:39.920
pretty interesting, right, But.
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01:13:40.119 --> 01:13:42.319
I watched bow Knick last year and thought that that's
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01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:45.079
a dude having a nice rookie season. Having a nice
1585
01:13:45.119 --> 01:13:49.159
rookie season doesn't necessarily translate into superstardom. And that's my
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01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:50.239
guess for Bonix.
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01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:52.000
You know my question, why did Joe Burrow look like
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01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:53.159
Andy Dalton in the second half?
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01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:56.439
I sort of did, didn't he? Oh? Just very similar.
1590
01:13:57.279 --> 01:13:59.039
It's like, oh, this is what this is like. All right,
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01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:01.800
we have to do Brendman And it is next on
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01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:04.279
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.
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01:14:03.960 --> 01:14:10.520
Station Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Traffic from the UC.
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Health Traffic Center.
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and behavior. You see health addiction services can help. Call
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five one, three, five, eight, five nine seven two to
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01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:25.960
two westbound Norwood Lateral left the lane blocked from an
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01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:29.199
accident between Reading and Paddock Road, eight five minutes to
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01:14:29.279 --> 01:14:33.399
lay back from Montgomery Road. Another accident northbound seventy one
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01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:37.079
approaching ridge that's blocking the left two lanes and westbound
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seventy four an accident before cleaves Hamilton on that e'zac
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01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:42.000
with traffic.
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Big Cut Clash and the Bengals on La Pro for
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a win, to get one, They'll have that Cholt the
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Jaguars and trust me for will fly Get the Coal
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Live from Dan Horden Dave Leon Cover Leach begins Sunday
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morning at nine am, stream for free on the new
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and improved iHeartRadio app for ESPN fifteen thirty, the official
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home of the Cincinnati Bengals. This is the Tony and
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fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
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All Right six after five ESPN fifty teen thirty, the
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01:16:00.680 --> 01:16:03.359
season premiere of the Tony and Mo Football show. James
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01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:07.079
Rapeene is in for Tony this week. It is the
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01:16:07.319 --> 01:16:10.159
bud Light five o'clock Happy Hour. We're broadcasting from Twin
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01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:12.680
Peaks in Westchester here till six o'clock. We're back here
1627
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:15.760
next week. If you're out and about north of town
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01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:19.319
thinking about man, let's go have dinner somewhere. Twin Peaks
1629
01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:22.439
has an awesome menu. Or if you're getting off work
1630
01:16:22.520 --> 01:16:24.680
and it's like, man, I want a happy hour cold one, Well,
1631
01:16:24.800 --> 01:16:28.840
Twin Peaks has beer. If you're thinking ahead, you're a planner,
1632
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:32.079
you want to watch the Bengals game on Sunday, Well,
1633
01:16:32.279 --> 01:16:34.800
Twin Peaks in Westchester is a great place for that.
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01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:37.600
Awesome place for Monday night football Tonight Bears and Vikings
1635
01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:40.840
Reds games late this week on the West Coast again
1636
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:43.640
Twin Peaks in Westchester. We absolutely love it here. The
1637
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:46.520
staff is awesome and we are thrilled to be back
1638
01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:49.159
at twin peaks, both here and in Florence for a
1639
01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:52.920
sixth year of the Tony and Mo Football Show. Sixth year,
1640
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:56.159
six year. Wow. Our first season here was the COVID
1641
01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:59.800
year twenty twenty. Yeah, so you know they can only
1642
01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:02.000
have have like a few people come and everybody had
1643
01:17:02.159 --> 01:17:05.079
masks on and it was for everybody. It was weird.
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01:17:05.640 --> 01:17:08.239
But yes, six year, it's wild. We're excited.
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01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:10.439
That's why this is at least my fourth year filling
1646
01:17:10.479 --> 01:17:14.479
in for Tony week one. I think it is maybe three,
1647
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:16.680
but I've definitely filled in for a multiple years.
1648
01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:21.039
I think this is the fifth consecutive year year. I'm
1649
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:23.920
almost certain that's the case. Man where he has a
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01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:26.880
commitment on the first Monday of the season, Yeah, a
1651
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:29.520
single years. It's playing golf. It's called what it is.
1652
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:32.520
I didn't know that it's playing golf. I didn't confirm
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01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:35.199
that playing golf in a prestigious event up in Columbus.
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01:17:35.680 --> 01:17:38.079
He is raising money for a great cause. Good for him,
1655
01:17:38.279 --> 01:17:40.760
But he's playing golf. No good for him.
1656
01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:42.640
It's better than me playing golf.
1657
01:17:42.680 --> 01:17:43.880
I'll tell you that. That's one thing.
1658
01:17:43.920 --> 01:17:45.680
I will not talk trash. And I'm the worst golfer
1659
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:48.359
in the world? Are you, oh, the worst, worse than me?
1660
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:52.039
I don't even need to see you, man, the worst,
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01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:57.199
the worst? Are you like the worst because you've never played? Well, yeah,
1662
01:17:57.239 --> 01:18:00.239
I've never played. I've never played, but see you have
1663
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:02.439
an excuse. I play a lot and I'm terrible.
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01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:08.159
That's fair, It is fair, that's fair. Bengals seventeen sixteen
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01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:12.520
winners over the Cleveland Browns yesterday, Ye, James, Yes, I
1666
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asked you at the top of the show the same question,
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will ask you right now. Yep. How should I feel?
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You should feel.
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01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:23.439
Like the Bengals did something they didn't do a year ago,
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and that something in Week one. Had they done it
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01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:29.359
would have gotten them into the playoffs. And so are
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they perfect?
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01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:30.319
No?
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01:18:31.439 --> 01:18:32.560
Did they win? Yes?
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Do they need things to clean up?
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01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:35.199
Sure?
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01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:37.399
Well that's that's really a really good place to be
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01:18:37.439 --> 01:18:39.800
in because the best team doesn't get a trophy for
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01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:43.800
being the best team in September, right, But the team
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01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:47.760
that lifts the trophy in February finds ways to win
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01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:48.720
games in September, and.
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01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:53.000
They need some luck like that too. Years ago. You
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01:18:53.079 --> 01:18:54.319
and I every day and.
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01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:56.720
I'm trying to be all prophetic you I need a
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01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:58.279
little luck in life.
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01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:03.399
Luck is a yes. Nobody wants to admit this. In life,
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01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:10.159
luck no doubt. Circumstance can be can can be extraordinarily beneficial,
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01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:13.119
can be extraordinarily harmful. Luck is a bigger factor in
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01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:16.840
sports than I think. Sometimes even myself. Fans are willing
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01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:20.479
to acknowledge the Bengals got lucky yesterday and to win
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01:19:20.520 --> 01:19:24.239
a championship. The Kansas City Chiefs last year won eleven
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01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:26.680
or zero in one score games. There were times last
1693
01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:30.279
year they got lucky went to a super Bowl because
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01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:32.960
of it. That's okay in a if you're gonna win
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01:19:33.039 --> 01:19:35.600
a title, and you're gonna win enough games to put
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01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:37.439
yourself in a position to win a title, you are
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01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:40.640
gonna have instances where maybe you have to find ways
1698
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:42.520
to win when you're not at your best, when you
1699
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:44.600
have to find ways to win when the unit that
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01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:46.880
you count on just for whatever reason, doesn't have it.
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01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.720
And sometimes you might get a lucky bad call. You
1702
01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:53.680
might get the opposing field goal kicker with a weird
1703
01:19:53.760 --> 01:19:56.720
last name leaving four points on the field. Whatever it is,
1704
01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:59.039
it's okay to say they got lucky yesterday. That can't
1705
01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:01.680
be the MO movie. Let's hope the other team just
1706
01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:04.560
gives us the game. But yesterday the Browns helped give
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01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:06.960
the Bengals the game, no doubt, and they did get lucky.
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01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:07.720
And I agree with you.
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01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:10.840
I also think that they how many times did they
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01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:14.199
get lucky last year? Like there weren't many, right, there
1711
01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:16.840
weren't many, And so maybe this comes back around. Yeah,
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01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:21.800
and when you just say the scenario out loud, I
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01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:24.399
would have laughed at you, Oh, well, Joe's gonna go
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01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.119
three for nine in the second half or twenty five
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01:20:27.199 --> 01:20:29.840
yards and finished with one hundred and thirteen yards. I
1716
01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:31.560
just said, there's no way in how they went, right,
1717
01:20:31.960 --> 01:20:33.960
There's nothing. And I asked the guys that yesterday. I
1718
01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:35.560
was like, if I would have told you Joe Burrow
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01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:39.000
finishes with one hundred and thirteen yards and you guys
1720
01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:42.680
have well was seven yards two net yards of total
1721
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:44.560
offense in the second half, would you do you think
1722
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:44.960
you'd win?
1723
01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:45.279
No?
1724
01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:47.560
Well, no, I don't think you know.
1725
01:20:47.720 --> 01:20:51.640
They admitted it, right, But they did win, and that
1726
01:20:51.840 --> 01:20:54.319
matters more so than any of the other stuff, all
1727
01:20:54.359 --> 01:20:57.199
the style points, all the others are they want to know,
1728
01:20:57.359 --> 01:20:59.439
they're want to know they're ahead of the Baltimore Ravens,
1729
01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:00.560
which is their main competition.
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01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:04.600
Ravens had a really pretty loss yesterday, or at times yesterday.
1731
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:07.720
Derrick Henry was awesome, and Lamar Jackson did Lamar Jackson things,
1732
01:21:07.800 --> 01:21:10.119
and Zay Flowers did Zay Flower things, and for a
1733
01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:14.920
stretch they looks great. Here's my take on the Baltimore
1734
01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:19.119
Ravens probably have the best roster in football. I cannot
1735
01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:22.319
trust them. If I'm looking at this independently and I,
1736
01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:23.960
you know, want to put some money on a team
1737
01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:27.960
to win the AFC or something like that, like the
1738
01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:31.960
Baltimore Ravens, I cannot trust them. Their roster is terrific.
1739
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:34.720
Head and shoulders. I think better, I think better than
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01:21:34.720 --> 01:21:39.720
anybody in the AFC. Lamar Jackson is otherworldly. John Harball
1741
01:21:39.800 --> 01:21:42.479
is a Hall of Fame coach. They have a terrific organization.
1742
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:45.720
I will not pick them to win the AFC because
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01:21:46.439 --> 01:21:49.319
stupid losses every year. Now, look, they won a couple
1744
01:21:49.359 --> 01:21:52.880
of games against the Bengals that felt like stupid, But
1745
01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:55.760
they have these stupid losses way too many times. I
1746
01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:57.239
feel like I cannot count on them.
1747
01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:01.319
Here's why, because talent wise, I agree with you.
1748
01:22:01.640 --> 01:22:02.039
Here's why.
1749
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:03.760
I was kind of down on Baltimore coming into the
1750
01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:06.840
year two. Things One, history says no team has won
1751
01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:10.680
the North three straight years, Right, that's not a coincidence.
1752
01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:13.720
Some awesome freaking teams in this division over the past
1753
01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:18.199
twenty five plus here twenty five years two. When you
1754
01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:22.640
look at what they are, what they're facing, they're not
1755
01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:26.239
thinking about the North. They're not thinking about September or October.
1756
01:22:26.960 --> 01:22:30.039
They need to prove themselves in January. And that's the pressure.
1757
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:30.920
Like that.
1758
01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:33.279
Marvin kind of dealt with this to a lesser extent, sure,
1759
01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:35.319
Like it's like, doesn't really matter what you do.
1760
01:22:35.920 --> 01:22:37.840
You gotta get there and then you gotta win. And
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01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:38.840
they're dealing with that now.
1762
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:40.640
And that's a weird place to be, man, because it
1763
01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:41.279
matters now.
1764
01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:43.960
But you could say, but because of the dominance of
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01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:45.720
the Chiefs, you could say that about a lot of
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01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:49.960
teams in the AFC, say they're Buffalo. Yeah they've advanced
1767
01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:54.159
regular season six, they advanced, but like does it.
1768
01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:58.760
Matter no, no, no, no, I agree, And I think that's.
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01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:01.960
And in a division that is significantly less challenging than
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01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:03.039
the one the Ravens play him.
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01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:04.920
I think this is the path where you you make
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01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:08.279
the case for the Bengals though, is well their quarterback,
1773
01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:14.000
their receivers, especially Jamar, but their receivers. They're going to
1774
01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:16.479
be like, oh, I'm at home in Buffalo. Sure, I
1775
01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:18.000
feel comfortable wherever.
1776
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:20.640
Zay Flowers was doing that. It's not gonna matter.
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01:23:21.039 --> 01:23:25.079
Yeah, you know, but in January, you know I I
1778
01:23:25.479 --> 01:23:28.359
but no, I'm the Ravens had no business losing none
1779
01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:29.239
side note.
1780
01:23:29.399 --> 01:23:34.119
None hardball punts it away fourth and nine. Ball on
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01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:37.800
his own end. He's taken a lot of heat for punting.
1782
01:23:38.680 --> 01:23:40.560
I will pile on and say he should have punted
1783
01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:44.640
fourth and nine. Yeah, that's well, yeah, what are you
1784
01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:47.279
gonna what I'll because what I'll do there is say
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01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:50.399
that the plays they ran on second and third down,
1786
01:23:50.680 --> 01:23:52.880
they should have just either given the ball to Derrick
1787
01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:55.680
Henry or Settle Lamar Jackson, go get the ardige. Sure,
1788
01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:58.119
and on fourth down, if I'm gonna pun at that point,
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01:23:58.199 --> 01:24:00.640
I'm losing the game. If I go for it on
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01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:03.920
fourth and nine and Buffalo takes over, they're gonna score.
1791
01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:05.840
At least I have some time. Sure, I get that.
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01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:06.640
I think.
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01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:10.800
I think if you know, see this is this is
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01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:14.079
the the in game element. If you know you're going
1795
01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:19.920
for it, then call plays and treat it much differently.
1796
01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:21.680
There would be no scenario where I would be in
1797
01:24:21.720 --> 01:24:24.960
a fourth and nine. It'd be fourth and three or
1798
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:28.720
fourth and four or fourth and one, and so that's
1799
01:24:29.399 --> 01:24:31.399
that's it. I don't know why he approached it and
1800
01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:33.680
why they approached it that way, and it was it
1801
01:24:33.760 --> 01:24:35.560
was fourth and three, okay.
1802
01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:38.279
It and nine they picked. He threw a past the
1803
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:40.239
de Andre Hopkins at fourth and nine. Didn't sound right?
1804
01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:42.760
Yeah, I was listening to it on the radio on
1805
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:43.399
the way back.
1806
01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:45.760
Fourth and three, fourth and three at their own thirty
1807
01:24:45.800 --> 01:24:48.640
eight minute and a half to go, Like I was
1808
01:24:48.680 --> 01:24:51.319
listening to it with Lamar Jackson and Derreck Henry. I
1809
01:24:51.399 --> 01:24:54.520
can't get three yards and if I do, fine, Buffalo
1810
01:24:54.520 --> 01:24:58.399
will get the ball back and and probably score. I's
1811
01:24:58.439 --> 01:24:59.960
going to be a little bit more time, would I.
1812
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:01.560
I just said, if you set up a fourth and three,
1813
01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:04.039
you go for it? Of course you do, because this
1814
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:07.600
is what you always should ask yourself. If all right,
1815
01:25:07.640 --> 01:25:10.399
let's say the Bengals defense is out there and in
1816
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:13.319
the Ravens have fourth and three. Do the Bengals want
1817
01:25:13.359 --> 01:25:16.039
them to punt or do they want them to go
1818
01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:16.359
for it?
1819
01:25:17.239 --> 01:25:17.800
Of course.
1820
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:20.479
So if that's the scenario, I always go the other
1821
01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:22.039
way because that's what your opponent wants to do.
1822
01:25:22.199 --> 01:25:24.000
Fourth and three at the thirty eight, I have Lamar
1823
01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:27.760
Jackson and Derrick Henry like I am. I am gonna
1824
01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:29.199
go down with one of those two guys.
1825
01:25:29.039 --> 01:25:31.439
And Hopkins making one of the catches of the year.
1826
01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:33.840
Yes, I am gonna go down with one of those
1827
01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:35.279
two guys, having more to do with it than my
1828
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:36.279
special teams.
1829
01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:40.119
For sure, for sure. Four fourth and three spoke before, Yeah,
1830
01:25:40.439 --> 01:25:41.520
fourth and three, Yes, I.
1831
01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:45.399
You go for it. Of course, you go for We'll
1832
01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:46.880
stay in the division. When we come back and talk
1833
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:49.840
about Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers. Man more on Bengals v.
1834
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.279
Browns at sixteen The Steelers may matter After five o'clock
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nout It All All four very well, are the Steelers good?
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01:27:04.399 --> 01:27:06.960
It might be good. It might be good.
1855
01:27:07.399 --> 01:27:07.600
Yeah.
1856
01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:10.920
If and I said those months ago, if Aaron Rodgers,
1857
01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:15.199
isn't that Aaron Rodgers we've seen in recent years and
1858
01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:18.159
it's just focused on football. You get him and Mike
1859
01:27:18.199 --> 01:27:22.479
Tomlin's culture with DK Metcalf and Chris Boswell and nail
1860
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:25.319
in sixty yarders. I mean they dropped thirty plus a
1861
01:27:25.479 --> 01:27:27.079
serial killer kicker.
1862
01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:29.479
Mike Tomlin said, Mike Kicker.
1863
01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:33.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no insane kick, Yes, no insane kick.
1864
01:27:33.680 --> 01:27:34.680
In a tough place to kick.
1865
01:27:35.359 --> 01:27:38.279
And so yeah, they have a chance to be good.
1866
01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:42.880
And this is this is Aaron Rodgers chance to kind
1867
01:27:42.920 --> 01:27:45.520
of flip his legacy and remind everyone that he was awesome. Yes,
1868
01:27:46.479 --> 01:27:48.359
so I think he knows that. I think, yeah, will
1869
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.159
he stay healthy? Will they be able to stop someone?
1870
01:27:51.199 --> 01:27:55.119
Because their defense was awful, which is they're old? Yeah,
1871
01:27:55.439 --> 01:27:57.279
doesn't mean they won't be good. That defensive line is
1872
01:27:57.359 --> 01:28:00.960
really good, and I'll buy I still think this may
1873
01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:03.319
be takey. I think this is the I on paper
1874
01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:06.760
think that's the best defense in the North. Better than
1875
01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:11.319
the Browns, better than the Raids. Justin Fields just dropped
1876
01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:12.319
thirty two on their heads.
1877
01:28:12.920 --> 01:28:13.560
I'm just saying.
1878
01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:17.039
Right, So it wasn't taky until yesterday. Now it feels
1879
01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:20.119
a little, you know. Yeah, Garrett Wilson's got a hold
1880
01:28:20.119 --> 01:28:20.279
on it.
1881
01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:22.680
That no doubt about it. Aaron Rodgers said he was
1882
01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:25.840
like happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets. Yeah,
1883
01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:28.159
why is he mad at the Jets? Didn't they like
1884
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:31.199
do everything he wanted? Yeah, I bettered his guy hacket.
1885
01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:33.560
They traded for DeVante Adams. They let him, you know,
1886
01:28:33.720 --> 01:28:35.640
have say over what the personnel was going to be.
1887
01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:38.319
They let him go to a darkness retreat like my
1888
01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:41.000
guy that that franchise, which is a punchline and has
1889
01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:42.680
been my entire life. They kind of let you do
1890
01:28:42.760 --> 01:28:43.399
whatever you wanted.
1891
01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:47.640
Yeah, they also told him they flew him in there
1892
01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:48.760
and then they said, hey, we don't want you to
1893
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:49.560
play first anymore.
1894
01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:53.439
Well, they did it in person, better off calling him
1895
01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:56.800
on the phone. If they would have done on the phone,
1896
01:28:56.960 --> 01:28:58.680
he would have complained they did it on the phone.
1897
01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:02.119
Probably I only got a phone call, right, No, they
1898
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:05.039
did it on the phone what they wanted to. I mean,
1899
01:29:05.159 --> 01:29:07.840
he got the coach fired, right, he didn't want solid
1900
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:10.000
to be the coach. Like anything that guy wanted there,
1901
01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:12.840
they did for him and they shouldn't have. So I
1902
01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:14.840
don't understand his bitterness.
1903
01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:18.000
Towards He's never He's always had a good structure when
1904
01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:20.640
he's won and been on good teams. It isn't the
1905
01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:24.319
Aaron Rodgers structure. It's the team structure. Yeah, that's why
1906
01:29:24.319 --> 01:29:27.279
I think he could work. The Jets are adopey franchise,
1907
01:29:27.359 --> 01:29:30.039
that their soul. They didn't work everything for him, but
1908
01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:32.479
he to his credit, man, he was terrific.
1909
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Yesterday it was.
1910
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And that's the scary part because if they do get
1911
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let's just say ninety eighty percent of prime Aaron Rodgers
1912
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eighty percent, they're gonna be good, best quarterback they've had
1913
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in a decade.
1914
01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:49.239
So here's my my my thing on the Steelers since
1915
01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:54.199
months before the season started was with Aaron Rodgers, They're
1916
01:29:54.199 --> 01:29:56.960
gonna be really hard to play. They always are. The
1917
01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:59.359
Steelers are always hard to play, no doubt he's made
1918
01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:03.359
them more difficult to play. I am not prepared to
1919
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take them seriously as legitimate AFC contenders. And I say
1920
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that having said what I just said about the Ravens AFC,
1921
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I think I agree with that. Like I find it
1922
01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:15.640
really hard to believe that.
1923
01:30:15.800 --> 01:30:18.600
Like, all right, it's Steelers and Bills with a chance
1924
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:20.279
to go to the super Bowl in Santa Clair on
1925
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the line, right, could they win the division?
1926
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Sure?
1927
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I think they could win the division.
1928
01:30:25.880 --> 01:30:27.760
For a while last year they were in the driver's
1929
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seat in the division and then you could no outcome
1930
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in the postseason last year to me felt more inevitable
1931
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than them just getting punked by the Ravens physically lined
1932
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up and just beaten. And that's you know, it's been
1933
01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:42.600
forever since they've won a playoff game. There's I think
1934
01:30:42.600 --> 01:30:44.840
a fair amount of pressure on that franchise to win one.
1935
01:30:45.479 --> 01:30:48.199
I don't know that Aaron Rodgers changes how I feel
1936
01:30:48.199 --> 01:30:50.880
about their championship bona fides. I reserved the right to
1937
01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:53.399
change my mind, and he certainly took a step toward
1938
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:54.239
doing that yesterday.
1939
01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:56.520
Well, yeah, he plays like he did yesterday. All bets
1940
01:30:56.520 --> 01:30:58.119
are off, then they are a contender.
1941
01:30:58.239 --> 01:31:01.520
Everybody's dancing on the graves of the Kansas City Chiefs.
1942
01:31:01.680 --> 01:31:04.640
Don't do it. I really want to. Don't do it.
1943
01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:06.399
I'm not gonna. You shouldn't.
1944
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:13.279
I'm not gonna, honestly, if freaking Chris Jones keeps contained,
1945
01:31:14.359 --> 01:31:18.279
they win that game. Yes, like Chris Jones cost them.
1946
01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:22.479
I was literally like, Herbert gets sacked. It's third nine,
1947
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and I'm like, they're gonna freaking win this game. They're
1948
01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:27.560
gonna go down, get a touchdown, the extra point that
1949
01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:30.479
all year, they're gonna They're gonna do it again. And
1950
01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:33.279
Chris Jones decided to be a big, big dummy head.
1951
01:31:33.319 --> 01:31:35.159
I don't know, I don't know what he was thinking.
1952
01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:38.680
Let Herbert run up the sideline, Well, what.
1953
01:31:38.760 --> 01:31:41.840
Are you doing, big dummyhead is the big dummy head
1954
01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:44.800
Jones the technical term. Yes, I think there's a real
1955
01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:47.520
sense of But you know what, last year the magic
1956
01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:51.399
you know, number one, the magic from last year is
1957
01:31:51.479 --> 01:31:54.119
not sustainable because they were so good. And one they
1958
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:56.920
were so good winning one score games, and then the
1959
01:31:56.960 --> 01:32:00.800
Philadelphia Eagles so dramatically exposed their flaws. Now they've remade
1960
01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:02.960
their offensive line, so it's not the same on line
1961
01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:05.439
as they had in the Super Bowl last year. Top
1962
01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:08.680
to bottom, but I late on Friday night there were
1963
01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:10.359
a lot of folks dancing on the graves of the
1964
01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:12.199
Kansas City Chiefs, and I think if there's one thing
1965
01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:16.119
we learned over the years, it's exercise some caution.
1966
01:32:16.279 --> 01:32:19.600
Yeah, let's just relax a little. I mean, is anyone
1967
01:32:19.680 --> 01:32:23.680
dancing on the Ravens grave? I kind of did like
1968
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:28.359
to me, but dancing, you're not.
1969
01:32:28.640 --> 01:32:31.800
My My angle on them is unique that I think,
1970
01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:33.800
top to bottom, they are the best roster. Like there's
1971
01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:36.960
there's everything you like, right, Yeah, you have an MVP quarterback,
1972
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:40.279
you have a coach who's held an extraordinarily high regard,
1973
01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:44.720
wonderful front office, terrific roster just dudes all over the place,
1974
01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:48.159
there's nothing to not like until you watch them lose
1975
01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:51.359
a game like last night, which for them, as good
1976
01:32:51.399 --> 01:32:54.159
as that franchise has been, was kind of on brand.
1977
01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:57.399
Like they've lost a lot of games. Maybe not specifically
1978
01:32:57.560 --> 01:32:59.560
like that, the first team in NFL history to blow
1979
01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:01.840
a fifteen point lead with less than four minutes to go,
1980
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:06.159
I guess, but still just these stupid losses they've had
1981
01:33:06.199 --> 01:33:08.560
where they have fallen apart in the fourth quarter. That
1982
01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:11.239
was reminiscent of many of them in recent years. Yeah,
1983
01:33:11.319 --> 01:33:14.880
I including early in the season last year. I get that.
1984
01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:18.399
I get having doubts. I'm not saying don't Dan, don't
1985
01:33:18.479 --> 01:33:21.720
don't be dancing. Yeah, yeah, that's in the same thing
1986
01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:22.239
with the Chiefs.
1987
01:33:22.399 --> 01:33:24.159
Basically, what I'm telling you is is nobody in the
1988
01:33:24.199 --> 01:33:25.039
AFC is any good.
1989
01:33:26.079 --> 01:33:29.079
I disagree. There's a lot of good teams. I I
1990
01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:31.720
would the Chiefs are going to finish ahead of the
1991
01:33:31.760 --> 01:33:38.520
Steelers hot take. Okay, well, the last year they're gonna win,
1992
01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:39.760
They're gonna win the AFC West.
1993
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:44.039
Again, that's more than plausible, more than.
1994
01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:46.399
I'm not gonna overreact a week one because Chris Jones
1995
01:33:46.399 --> 01:33:48.439
didn't keep his big dummy head gap in.
1996
01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:51.600
In what might pass stays there, and it's over the
1997
01:33:52.079 --> 01:33:55.039
game in Week one that nobody paid attention to. There
1998
01:33:55.079 --> 01:33:57.800
was a weather delay involved. Jacksonville did win their season opener.
1999
01:33:57.840 --> 01:33:59.640
They did, So you get a pair of one and
2000
01:33:59.720 --> 01:34:02.199
oh two games, and we get the greatest college football
2001
01:34:02.199 --> 01:34:04.279
player I've ever seen come into town on Sunday.
2002
01:34:04.520 --> 01:34:07.640
Oh, I thought you were talking about Bryce? Yeah, yes, No,
2003
01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:10.279
you're right. How many times this is a good stat
2004
01:34:10.399 --> 01:34:13.720
how many times have as a number one overall pick,
2005
01:34:13.800 --> 01:34:16.279
faced two number one overall picks and back to back weeks?
2006
01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:17.880
I have no idea, but.
2007
01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:22.479
No, that's literally as I was saying, and I'm like, Jay, yeah,
2008
01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:26.479
probably already done this right, but but yeah, it's a
2009
01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:26.960
big game.
2010
01:34:27.119 --> 01:34:30.560
The guy you're filling in for, Tony Pike, yeah remember him. No,
2011
01:34:30.800 --> 01:34:35.079
he has been worried about this game for weeks, like, hey,
2012
01:34:35.439 --> 01:34:38.039
slow starts, they'll be Cleveland. The Jacksonville game is the
2013
01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:41.039
one on the worry about because he views Trevor Lawrence,
2014
01:34:41.119 --> 01:34:44.640
and I understand where he's coming from. Is so much
2015
01:34:44.680 --> 01:34:45.359
of an X factor.
2016
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:49.279
Trevor Lawrence is way better than people are saying right now.
2017
01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:51.640
I agree, it's so dumb. I would buy all of
2018
01:34:51.720 --> 01:34:54.479
the stock. And I said it before yesterday, and he
2019
01:34:54.560 --> 01:34:57.199
didn't really need to do much yesterday. All of the
2020
01:34:57.239 --> 01:35:02.680
Trevor Lawrence stock. I don't know why people can't understand
2021
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:06.640
how dysfunctional they've been and from ownership on down, they're
2022
01:35:06.760 --> 01:35:07.800
just functional franchise.
2023
01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:10.399
They don't know football.
2024
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:13.159
Like you say what you want about Bengals ownership, and
2025
01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:15.600
there's a lot of reasons to complaining, but I think
2026
01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:18.319
they have the under the general concept of football to
2027
01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:21.600
a degree where they wouldn't have put Trevor through what
2028
01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:24.920
the Jags have put him through. Yeah, a good quarterback
2029
01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:27.560
could be a great quarterback, but definitely a good quarterback has.
2030
01:35:27.479 --> 01:35:29.439
Got the tools. It's got the physical tools.
2031
01:35:29.520 --> 01:35:30.600
And and like.
2032
01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:34.359
Put it like this, Brian Callaghan would love to have
2033
01:35:34.439 --> 01:35:38.720
some Trevor Lawrence in his life. Think you know, you know,
2034
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:41.319
the Colts would love it. You know who else would
2035
01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:44.079
love it? People here aren't gonna like this. The Houston
2036
01:35:44.119 --> 01:35:47.439
Texans would love to have Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, I think
2037
01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:49.479
I agree with Sorry CJ. Yeah, I think I agree
2038
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:53.239
with the silliest thing ever. I overreact because he was
2039
01:35:53.239 --> 01:35:55.239
better than Bracing as a rookie. Basically, he was good
2040
01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:55.680
as a rookie.
2041
01:35:55.760 --> 01:35:58.720
That's great. He was good as a rookie in last year.
2042
01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:01.000
I don't know the there was a quarterback who had
2043
01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:04.439
more hype around him. It just it just didn't take
2044
01:36:04.520 --> 01:36:06.479
off the way everybody expect. How many points did they
2045
01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:09.840
score yesterday against the Rams? They were awful off yesterday.
2046
01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:12.119
And I think LA's defense is good. I don't think
2047
01:36:12.159 --> 01:36:15.680
it's what the stats would make you think it is.
2048
01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:20.079
Trevor Lawrence best quarterback in the South. Danny Dime's not
2049
01:36:20.119 --> 01:36:23.000
doing it for you. Come on, come on. The Daniel
2050
01:36:23.119 --> 01:36:26.479
Jones Comeback Player of the Year award train is it's
2051
01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:26.880
in motion.
2052
01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:31.920
It is thanks to Loudini defensive clinic.
2053
01:36:32.760 --> 01:36:36.239
Daniel Jones. Yeah, Daniel Jones, that's not doing it for you. No, okay,
2054
01:36:37.039 --> 01:36:40.399
Antheony Richards. Does the do the Jacksonville Jaguars present a
2055
01:36:40.520 --> 01:36:45.960
threat to you? Yes? Of course ye. Brian Thomas elite
2056
01:36:46.279 --> 01:36:46.920
Travis Hunter?
2057
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:47.279
Right?
2058
01:36:48.039 --> 01:36:50.000
You think Cam Taylor BRIT's garden Travis Hunter?
2059
01:36:52.199 --> 01:36:52.600
You like that?
2060
01:36:52.720 --> 01:36:54.880
You feel good about that? Do you like any of
2061
01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:56.880
the Bengals corners? And I like some of them against
2062
01:36:56.880 --> 01:36:57.439
Brian Thomas.
2063
01:36:58.640 --> 01:37:00.560
Despite yesterday, Dak Saill played well, but.
2064
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:04.640
No no, hell no, you don't. I don't why would you? So, yeah,
2065
01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:05.760
that's scary and.
2066
01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:07.920
A good offensive. Mine as the head coach, is kind
2067
01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:08.399
of weird.
2068
01:37:08.199 --> 01:37:12.760
As he Travis etn real guy oh ran pretty well yesterday.
2069
01:37:12.880 --> 01:37:15.079
So I think a lot of folks after winning yesterday
2070
01:37:15.159 --> 01:37:17.039
were like, cool, chalk it up, they're going to Minnesota
2071
01:37:17.079 --> 01:37:19.800
two and oh you are you're playing league Corso not
2072
01:37:19.880 --> 01:37:21.319
so fast mine that so of course?
2073
01:37:21.439 --> 01:37:25.960
Now, okay, all right, Like Joe Flacco outplayed Joe Burrow yesterday,
2074
01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:28.159
he did tell me Trevor Lawrence can't do the same.
2075
01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:31.199
He can, of course he can. I'm not saying he will.
2076
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:31.359
Now.
2077
01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:33.399
Once upon a time Jake Browning out played him in
2078
01:37:33.439 --> 01:37:36.600
the game in Monday night. Did he or did he
2079
01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:39.640
get hurt? Come on? Say capably?
2080
01:37:39.960 --> 01:37:40.159
Yeah?
2081
01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:45.239
Yeah, see see but Jake Browning played capably then, no doubt,
2082
01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:47.960
no doubt. And as backup quarterbacks go, that's about as
2083
01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:50.439
good as you could ask. That's fair. I agree with that.
2084
01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:53.399
Joe Burrow throws for one thirteen again on Sunday. They
2085
01:37:53.439 --> 01:37:56.239
will lose. They will lose by twenty. Yes, it'll be up.
2086
01:37:56.399 --> 01:37:59.520
It will be thirty to ten. What will the Bengals
2087
01:37:59.600 --> 01:38:00.840
record be have for four games.
2088
01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:05.000
Why you're putting me on the spot now. It needs
2089
01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:06.680
to be it needs to be three in one. My
2090
01:38:06.800 --> 01:38:09.439
guess before yesterday was two and two.
2091
01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:14.720
Got it? Mine was three and one. I don't know.
2092
01:38:14.880 --> 01:38:16.479
I had them starting three and Oh yeah.
2093
01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:22.119
I think I'm still saying two and two because think
2094
01:38:22.159 --> 01:38:23.399
when winning in Minnesota is gonna be.
2095
01:38:23.399 --> 01:38:25.319
Hard, and then they're gonna be two and three. Yeah,
2096
01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:29.479
Detroit's Detroit isn't gonna suck. I know they were bad yesterday.
2097
01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:30.800
They were awful yesterday.
2098
01:38:31.039 --> 01:38:34.039
Not gonna suck. The brain drain there is real though, man,
2099
01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:37.159
oh it is. And by the way, this is a
2100
01:38:37.319 --> 01:38:39.359
this is a real take. In NFL circle, I take
2101
01:38:39.399 --> 01:38:40.199
Trevor over Ared.
2102
01:38:41.039 --> 01:38:45.479
Oh yeah, that's fine. I still feel like there's an
2103
01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:50.560
amount of upside for Trevor Lawrence that is untapped. And
2104
01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:52.199
I think Jared Goff, we know what he is. I
2105
01:38:52.359 --> 01:38:54.800
remember Sean mcvace told the world I can't win a
2106
01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:57.439
super Bowl with Jared Goff and he was right, Yeah, yeah,
2107
01:38:57.640 --> 01:38:58.119
he was.
2108
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:01.800
What's funny is last year in the Bengals locker room,
2109
01:39:01.800 --> 01:39:03.760
when the lines were rolling, I was having this conversation
2110
01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:06.119
with a few Bengals players, They're like, man, the Lions,
2111
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:07.640
and I was like, yeah, but Jared Golf and they
2112
01:39:07.640 --> 01:39:09.560
were like, come on right, like they like they were
2113
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:11.880
making the caser to I'm like, no, Jered Golf right,
2114
01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:14.319
it cost him. He was offul on the playoff in
2115
01:39:14.359 --> 01:39:16.159
their playoff falls, he was awful.
2116
01:39:16.279 --> 01:39:19.279
So you're chalking down the Detroit game at home already
2117
01:39:19.359 --> 01:39:23.880
as an l even with what Detroit put on the field.
2118
01:39:23.800 --> 01:39:26.359
I had, That's just what I had coming into these Okay,
2119
01:39:26.520 --> 01:39:27.359
I'm not gonna right.
2120
01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:28.119
A lot of people did.
2121
01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:29.239
I'm sure I have three to zero, and then they
2122
01:39:29.279 --> 01:39:31.279
fought a three and two, and everyone knows wonders if
2123
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.800
the world's ending, and then they, you know, go through
2124
01:39:33.880 --> 01:39:34.319
that cycle.
2125
01:39:34.720 --> 01:39:37.039
All right, Well, our friend Emma has brought his food yepes,
2126
01:39:37.319 --> 01:39:40.439
so we're gonna eat. It's twenty seven, twenty six now
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01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:43.720
away from six o'clock. We're at Twin Pigs in Westchester.
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It's the Tony and Mo Football Show on ESPN fifteen thirty,
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by Postman Law and Vice. Skyline Chilly on ESPN fifteen thirty,
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the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.
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Bengals beat the Brown seventeen sixteen. Yesterday Sports Deadlines, our
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Kelseyshove dot Com. Your one injury note from yesterday. Lucas
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Patrick left the game with a CAF issue. Zach Taylor
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today said he will miss multiple games. That is today's
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Others promise Postman delivers eight for to four Postman. Monday
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Night Football Tonight, Fox Sports thirteen sixty has the Chicago
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Bears hosting the Minnesota Vikings. Reds Baseball Tonight down the
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Hall on seven hundred WLW. Reds begin a nine game
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road trip tonight, first of three in San Diego. Reds
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and Padres Nicolodolo and you Darvish on the mound ninety
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this evening. Reds, after a gut punch of a loss
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on Friday, did come back and win on Saturday, excuse me,
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and then again yesterday afternoon. Behind Hunter greens twelve strikeout performance,
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Cincinnati is four behind the Mets in the hunt for
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the last wildcard spot in New York. Is that Philadelphia. Tonight,
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Cincinnati is even up with the Giants, who take on
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the Arizona Diamondbacks tonight. Arizona is a half game behind Cincinnati.
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Cardinals are at Seattle tonight. Saint Louis also a half
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game behind the Reds. College football Ohio State, Penn State, LSU,
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Oregon Miami won through five, AP Top twenty five pole
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Ohio State, Penn State, Georgia, LSU Oregon won through five,
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and the coaches pole Indiana twenty second, AP nineteenth in
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the coaches the UCEE Bearcats that not get any votes.
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The Mark Stoops Show is tonight at six on Fox
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Sports thirteen sixty in the aftermath of Kentucky's lost to
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Old Miss on Saturday. Have you watched any Bearcat football
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this year? Yeah, I've watched a little Bearcat football this year?
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Should be two and oh, should be. I think the
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game on Saturday is one of the most forgettable good performances,
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winning performances by the Barricats that I can recall.
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Sure, because it's just like, yeah, like you expected it
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and you know.
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They went up twenty one. Nothing thought, Okay, they're not
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going to lose. But if you went into that game
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hoping they would play well enough for you to feel like,
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you know what, this thing's about to hit the ground
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running when they start big twelve played. That did not happen. No, no,
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it didn't.
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I'm still so stuck, and I think maybe this is
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why it's forgettable. You're stuck on week one and you're like, yeah,
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like you do that and then you're two and zero, right,
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and so you're not over overly reacting to this week,
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you know, But you're right. It probably should have just
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been a route the whole game and not not a
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little back and forth.
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It wasn't a lot. I was never worried. You weren't worried,
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but no, I never. I was never fearful that the
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outcome would go south.
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But no, I well, you don't want it to be like,
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oh well they're dealing with.
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Yeah when it was twenty one nothing. I was hopeful
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that they put the foot on the gas and we
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walk away from it feeling like, all right, you know what,
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this team is about to hit the ground running like
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fifty one to seven. And Saturday's game lacked that on
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top of the frustration with how they lost.
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In the brass no doubt, confidence level is not high, No, no,
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not at all.
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All right. We started the show two and a half
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hours ago by talking about Bengals v. Browns Cincinnati's offensive issues.
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The main culprit was what, Wow, the main culprit was them,
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I think, not feeling like they can be them against
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the Browns.
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Right, Honestly, you know they play them again.
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Yeah, it, but like early on, what was working stuff
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The Bengals never do running the ball, play a play
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action a Noah fan on the first play of the
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game for eleven yards, like, they're going to Chase Brown
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and Chase Brown and Chase Brown. And I do think
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that they'll do that at times this year. But I
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think they felt like, all right, we're not going to
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be able to go to our weapons the way we
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normally do our top weapons. And it worked, but at
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some point you do need there's a reason they're there,
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and then when they needed to go to them, it
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didn't really work for the most part.
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And so what is that? Is it just a little
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timing issue?
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Is that? Is it because it's just Cleveland? Is it
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a matchup thing? Or is it just they felt in
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their head a certain way that they needed to play
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that game the way they played it because they have
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gone into games thinking that it's going to be ugly.
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Yeah.
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I hope that wasn't it, because I think they had
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a chance to blow the doors off of that team.
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There was a moment in that game where I thought.
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And they didn't. And part of that has to do
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with the defense too.
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Because they would have to get a stop to start
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the third quarter, right, but like, there was a chance
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there and it went the other way and it got
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really ugly, really fast.
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When they scored the way they did on that first drive,
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I was with you because I thought, cool, they just
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showed the Cleveland Browns they can run it. And if
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if Jim Schwartz, the defensive coordinator for Cleveland, if his
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response is cool, we're gonna sell out to stop which
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has happened to us, then Joe and the offense are
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going to cook. And that just did not happen. I
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refuse to believe that it's okay for the Browns to
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be in their head that much. Come on, man, And
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I'm not saying that's the case. It maybe, but but
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the thing is it's plaus and that's fine, but really,
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but you're gonna play him twice a year and it doesn't.
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During that game yesterday, I was like, especially in the
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second half, and I'm like, well, that's Joe, Jamar and
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t No one should be able to stop them.
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No, like literally, no one, not to the tune of passing,
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slowing them down them down the shirt, yes, stopping them, Yes,
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twenty five yards in the second half, it should be impossible.
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Yes, three of nine passing.
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Yes, the offense looking so lost that they only generate
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one first down and it's because of a Jordan Battle
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interception where they had a little momentum one first down.
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In the second half. If it should be impossible, if
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you watch that game with somebody who doesn't follow the
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conjecture around the sport, he said, coming in, uh, the
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team and Stripe Telmt says, a guy that many believe
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is the best quarterback in football, and he is leading
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an offense that many believe will be the best in football.
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They would have looked at you and said, I'm gonna
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need you to be in a cup. I mean it,
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it was that striking how bad they were. Do you
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think like you could say, well, Cleveland's in their head.
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Did Cleveland yesterday provide a blueprint that other teams could
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try to use themselves.
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That's what I think is so tough, is no? I
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mean they did, Sure they can try it, but it's
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Miles and Denzel Ward and then Miles again, right, and
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then Miles again. There's just not many Miles Garretts, and
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so I think that's tough to deal with, Like Dylan.
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Fairchild man, it was welcome to the NFL. Welcome to welcome.
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But that's a great moment for him because he's gonna
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be able to learn.
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And so I think.
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Teams can try, but to have sticky corners that are
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sticky in coverage and a guy like Miles Garrett with
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other competent defensive linemen around him. That's a unique situation.
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But I will say this, you play them twice a year,
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like you said, figure it out, Yes, And I thought
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they had figured it out.
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That was the thing for me.
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You had.
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You had eight months from an offensive perspective to prepare
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for a defensive unit that you knew what they are. Yep, right, yep.
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I mean to say what you want about whatever amount
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of success the Browns had on offense, which wasn't a
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ton offensively, if there was a team in the NFL
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that they should have been prepared to play the first game,
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it was that one, no doubt, and.
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They didn't look it and they didn't have a second pitch. Yeah,
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the first pitch worked in the first half, right, the
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Browns adjust and then you go three and out to
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come out and you're down sixteen to fourteen, and then
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you settle for the field goal and then it's time
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to adjust and figure it out. And I felt like
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their adjustment was, let's go back to what we are.
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But what they are does not work against Cleveland. We
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know that are ready like to spread out. Joe's gonna
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diagnose the defense. Yeah, that hasn't really worked against the
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Browns consistently, and what was working was all these other weapons,
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and so they're just gonna have to be probably even
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more diverse. I think it's gonna be interesting. If that
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Week eighteen game matters.
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Great, so they'll be playing for their playoff lives against
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the Cleveland team.
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That is in their heads they should not. They should
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not be playing for their playoff lives in Week eighteen.
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I would like to think not. They should not. The
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expectations should be something will have gone terribly wrong.
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If we ate them, if they could be playing for seating,
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if they're if it's like it was last year, they
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need to win, and especially if they need help, then
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something has gone terribly No doubt. They are in the
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same position basically they've been the last two years, needing
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to win Week eighteen, with Joe Burrow having played seventeen
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games then something has gone so awry that I can't
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even fathom what it might be.
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They won't be in that position if they live up
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the expectations. But if they play like they did yesterday
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in the second half, they will absolutely be in that position.
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May be worse, so you gotta be better.
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Will much better? Andre Schmid be Cleveland's kicker in that
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Who Andre Schmidt?
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There's no way that's how you say his name. I
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refuse to believe it. I even saw it on Browns
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dot Com. No chance, that's not real. He's going to
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be their kicker. Stefanski's confirmed yesterday, sticking by him.
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He's going to be their kicker this week, week eighteen. Oh,
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he's week to week. Oh, week eighteen. That dude's going
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to be kicking for the Browns here. Nope, nope, I
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can't thank you it ofugh.
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Imagine blaming the kicker in Cleveland. The Bengals should have
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won by one they killed.
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If I'm a Browns fan, it is agonizing to me. Then,
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in a season where we're not expected to win many games,
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Joe Burrow came to our building for one hundred and
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thirteen yards. We held him to seventeen points and we
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lost because of our kicker. That is, if I'm a
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Cleveland fan today, sure, well that's all they're talking. If
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Burrowing company come torches cool, they're going to do that
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to everybody. If it's you know what, Flacco played poorly? Okay, fine,
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that's probably gonna happen to times this year. We were
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in a position to win against a Bengals team that's
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offensively expected to be one of the best in the league,
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and they weren't. And well, I'm off the hook. If
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I'm a Browns fan today, that is driving me bonkers,
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no doubt, because of the stupid kick.
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I would feel like I should be one to know
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the Brown's outplayed the Bengals.
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Yes, all right, we have to go. Have a great night.
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Thank you for listening. You have great life. I don't
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know what I'll see you.
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01:51:13.560 --> 01:51:16.479
Oh wow, see you tomorrow. I don't know if you
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will be coolest if you did.
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James Rapine, Bengals Talk dot Com, Enter the Jungles, Cincinnati
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Bengals Talk and the Lockdown Bengals Podcast nailed it. Look
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at that Tony is back Next week. We are back
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here at Twin Peaks in Westchester. Thanks to Mike Mills
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for producing on site, and to our guy Taran for
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producing back and ken Wood Heaven unbelievable night, and we'll
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talk to you tomorrow on ESPN fifteen thirty. By the way,
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Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from.
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The UCE Health Traffic Center. Addiction is a treatable medical
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disorder that affects both brain and behavior. You see health
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addiction services can help. Call five one, three, five, eight, five, nine,
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seven two two three lanes all blocked off from an
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accident on westbound two seventy five after Loveland Madeira Road.
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Traffic getting by on the left shoulder northbound four to
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seventy one on the Big Mac Bridge. Two right lanes
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blocked from the crash. There, Traffic stop and go from
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the Bellevue exit. I'm at ezelic with traffic.
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