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I know I am. For example, each year, Laura and
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I like to send out Christmas cards that have
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-3492. That's 918 -986 -3492. Or visit paperboyprint
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.com. Welcome to the MLIB Podcast. We're your
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hosts. I'm Dave Steele. And I'm Laura Steele.
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And today we have a very special guest with us
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today. Yes, we have Aaron Vann with Paperboy
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Print and Mail. And we're actually on site at
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his new office. You've been in here for about
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a month, right? Yes, that's correct. Yeah. So
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it's super exciting. He's had his business for
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about a year. Absolutely. It's kind of fun because
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we did a little road trip today. So we're going
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to kind of find out all the good stuff about
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Nancy. Brought all the gear came over to paperboy
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and here we are inside and I will say it smells
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great in here So so that's all things Or Laura
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who who who called air masters out out to air
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masters. Yeah, they have good sense So anyways,
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we want to kind of like find out about printing
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those of you are listening. I bet you printed
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a Christmas card or a card or an invitation or
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professional printing and so we kind of wanted
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to highlight Aaron and what he does So we thought
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we'd start the beginning. So how long have you
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been in printing? Overall over 11 years actually
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started in 2015 as a delivery driver working
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through college with no intention of staying
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in the printing business But found that I loved
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it. So I've been in it a little over 11 years
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Yeah, but hey, so you just started as a delivery
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boy. Everybody has to start somewhere. That's
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right That's a good place to start. So then how
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did you kind of like what was the story? Did
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you go to college and then come back to printing
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or how did that kind of happen? So I worked there
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all the way through college and kind of transitioned
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through various roles and basically have done
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Every job in the printing business, which I think
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was really good experience for me. It gave me
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a taste of everything I figured out what I liked
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what I didn't like and Yeah, it was good To kind
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of know the whole thing from start to finish
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then correct. That's really important So that
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would make it nice to like end up starting your
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own business So what are like if I'm a person
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and I'm wanting to get? What do I need to know
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if I'm coming to your company and wanting to
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print? What would be where would be a starting
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point to kind of give a people what you do and
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how you do it and that kind of thing So I think
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it's best to actually start not talking about
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printing. So we want you to come to us with an
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idea, maybe, or tell us what you're trying to
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accomplish and then we can advise you on the
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print. So you really don't know, you don't have
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to know anything. We can help you with that.
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And so we'll link a website and everything and
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your information to that. So when you say an
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idea, so we could just be like, I'm wanting to
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make an invitation. What kind of questions are
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you going to ask people? Yeah, so first thing
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we always ask is, when do you need it? So timeline
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is everything in our business. And then we also
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ask how many you need. And those two questions
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really help steer the ship as far as which direction
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to go. Okay, so you can get it designed for them
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So I dabble I dabble I'm by no means a professional
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of Designers that I work with that I send work
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to and they take care of that. So yeah. Yeah,
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correct So if someone's looking at that like
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what when you're when you're talking paper to
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people How do they know like how do you know?
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What kind of paper you're wanting people are
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wanting and how do you just help them decide
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that? Yeah, so we have standard papers for different
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items, but a lot of it's very visual So I have
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sample books that I can show the customers and
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they can see touching now So I went to NSU Broken
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Arrow. Well, I went to a few different schools,
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but I graduated from NSU Broken Arrow, worked
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at the printing business throughout college,
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and again, worked through basically every role
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within the printing business and found that I
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loved it, mainly because of the people aspect
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of it. I loved working with people because printing
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usually marks some of the most important moments
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of your life, whether that's weddings, graduations,
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baby showers, all kinds of things. So you get
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to know the people. It's very relational. It's
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very personal. It's very meaningful. What did
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you actually go to school for? What did you think
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you were going to go into? Business administration.
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And I had no idea what I was going to do. I had
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not a clue. Correct. Well, it ended up being
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your perfect major, though, for starting a company.
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It really all worked out perfectly. If I could
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have planned it, I think I wouldn't have done
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as good as I ended up doing. Absolutely. Because
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it just worked out. That's incredible. That's
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very cool. I think God has his hand on me and
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my journey throughout all of that. And yeah,
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it worked out. Hey, yeah, so I just want to mention
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Aaron just turned 30 and he has his own business.
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This is a big deal He's a young and he's got
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his own business. I mean, it's like a neat you're
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kind of in in a Smaller group of people so anyways
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also I want to say like as far as jobs like if
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people are interested in getting something done
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Is there anything too small for you or too big
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for you? Let give us the kind of What's the smallest
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things you do? What's the big things you do?
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Because I know you do mail too, and then you
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do small projects too. Correct. Yeah, we do a
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lot of small projects. No minimums. Really nothing
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is too small for us. There are jobs that are
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too big for us, and we are really upfront with
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customers about that. We never want to mislead
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them or take on a project that we can't execute
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really well. So I would say anything up to about
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10 ,000 pieces, whether that's postcards or envelopes
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or posters, whatever it may be, about 10 ,000
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pieces would be the cutoff before we might recommend
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you to a larger printer. And what about size?
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Like what's the biggest size you do? So I can
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do up to 13 inches by 19 inches. So that covers
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just about everything. Uh, as far as postcards,
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business cards, brochures, booklets, posters,
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like a real large display, wall size or something
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like that. You would, you would point them somewhere
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to print that. Right. Exactly. Correct. Yeah.
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I try to let the people that do that best do
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it rather than me try to play middleman and not
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necessarily give them the best product or service.
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Yeah. Being November. Yeah. So I was thinking
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you just recently have done a lot of mailers
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here with the political. Season yeah, so I like
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that's a pretty big thing you do what other kind
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of mailers you do like we do a lot of nonprofit
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mailers a lot of fundraising a lot of invitations
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And then we also do for service -based businesses
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like lawn care companies Christmas light companies.
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We do mailers for them really Do you is that
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something that you also offer as far as like
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I'm a person who's coming in that needs a political
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thing that's gonna that's gonna go out because
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election day is coming up and so you know you
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want to get those so you'll you could whether
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it be design or if you already have the right
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brochure whatever it is of That hand it to you.
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You can print off, but you can also do the mailing
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side of that as well Yes, we also handle the
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mailing. So that typically starts with targeting
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a list of people. Some customers have a list
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that they bring to us. We can also provide a
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list if they give us maybe a particular area
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or demographic of people they're trying to target.
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We can procure that list and prepare it and process
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it for them and get ready for mailing. And it's
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about 50 -50. Some customers have a list and
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then we provide a list for others. And then for
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that, I think it's big as when they want the
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drop date, right? Yes, yes, that's very important
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goes to the post office and then you want to
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figure out like how many days you Usually figure
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for people to get it. It's local. So for local
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it varies So I'm I want to be very careful about
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how I answer this It might be snail mail two
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to four days locally sometimes sooner, but two
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to four days for local and then beyond that You
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know, it does take a little longer. I'd say four
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to six days typically for further away. But really
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the post office defines their, for bulk mail,
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two to 10 days is their actual delivery window.
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So that can vary pretty widely, but that's what
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I've seen in my experience. So if people have
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like a list, can you merge that on or can they
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send you a list of names like if they have their
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own names for a mailer? Of course. So that even
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so like if someone want to send out Christmas
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cards, they don't want to print them all out.
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Can you print the envelope? Absolutely. Okay.
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We make that process super simple. All you have
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to do is send us an Excel file. We take it from
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there, print it onto the envelopes or the postcards
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or whatever it is you're mailing. And so that's
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seamless. Very easy. Nice. Yeah, so like if anybody
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who's doing like upcoming if you have like an
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invitation for weddings They can do that. You
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also do other things for weddings I might add
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because you did a bunch of stuff for my kids
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for their weddings So what kind of things do
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you do for like special events like as far as
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that? Yeah, so we can help with signage like
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foam core, you know, welcome signs Seating charts
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those types of things and then we can also help
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with place cards invitations so What would you
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say is your favorite part of this world? I mean,
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I know you originally got in as a driver which
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I For me, I loved doing that but great. It was
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pizza But you know when you're 18 years old 19
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years old driving around listening to your radio
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and get paid for it You know while you're delivering
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something. It's pretty cool pretty cool deal.
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So my question What what what is your favorite
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part of it? What drives you to? Definitely the
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people aspect of it. Again, like I mentioned
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earlier, the important events throughout people's
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lives that we get to help them with. And a lot
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of times it starts out with me seeing a journey
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in someone's life where I might start out printing
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their wedding invitations and then a year later,
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maybe they're having a baby and then that baby
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gets old and has birthdays. And then later that
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baby gets older and graduates. And so we get
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to be a part of people's lives for many, many
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years. And so that's really exciting. And then
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on the business side of things, we do a lot of
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work for nonprofits. And so helping them fundraise,
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helping them to interact with their donors and
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volunteers, uh, is really rewarding work. Um,
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I don't look at that so much as a business thing
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as I do. My life to serve that. Just plants in
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your brain that you think, Oh, that was, I'm
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really glad I did that. You've got one coming
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up that you're gonna donate some stuff to you
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want every year you want to donate to a nonprofit
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That would be kind of interesting because that's
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gonna be helpful for them. Yeah. Yeah, that's
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a great point So what we have started doing is
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a quarterly printing grant for nonprofits of
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$1 ,000 So we take nominations again quarterly
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and so the next one would be in January And so
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people will nominate a nonprofit and then we
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will at random select a nonprofit and then give
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them a $1 ,000 printing grant And so you'll go
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out there and kind of see what their printing
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needs are and what they're interested in. So
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it's kind of really tailored specifically to
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that specific organization. It's not like a general,
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you get business cards or you get a flyer. It's
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like, what do they need that would help their,
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it's not a company, their nonprofit grow. I can
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assume that maybe some people might nominate
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the nonprofit, but the nonprofit doesn't necessarily
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know they've been nominated. I mean, is that
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something? How cool would that be to just have
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you show up and say, Hey, here's a thousand dollars
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in printing that you have. That actually happened
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with our first recipient. It's an organization
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called Light of Hope out of Claremore and they
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were recommended by someone that I'm in a networking
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group with and they had no idea. I called them
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and they were overjoyed. They said we were actually
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just about to start a printing campaign and we
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were talking to companies about quotes and so
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you called us at a perfect time. I mean that's
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just really cool. Yeah, it's nice that you can
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give back because I think you don't realize people
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think everything's digital, but there's still
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so much paper. Oh, absolutely. from business
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cards to flyers and you go to doctor's offices.
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There's just so much paper more than you think.
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So I think there's a return to that. People are
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getting fatigued with the digital world and it
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is nonstop. It never stops. I don't know about
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you guys, but my email every day is just flooded
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with things that I don't know how they got my
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email. I don't know how I signed up for it. Yeah.
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Some getting something in the mail feels special.
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It feels personal in your hand. It's just a really
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enjoyable read from or write to or whatever.
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It's just, there's something obviously very tactile
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about it, but something very satisfying. And
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that might be my age talking because I used to
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enjoy picking up a newspaper and thumbing through
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it as opposed to flipping your thumb up and scrolling
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to the next thing. It's a nice thing to have.
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You just mentioned to us a little bit ago about
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wholesaling, and that's a good chunk of your
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business as well right now. So explain what that
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is, how that works. Yes, of course. Yes, so I
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have a network of printers that I send business
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to, but they also send business to me. And I
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think that is a testament to the business that
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we run here that other printers would trust us
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to do work for them. So the way that works is
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pretty straightforward is that other printers
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will send us work. We've established a wholesale
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price that they can take and then sell to their
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customers and still make money. So we don't make
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the margins we normally would on a retail customer,
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but it's a really good business. And again, we're
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taking care of a printer that may help us with
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the price. down the road so it's it's good to
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have that they might not do the same kind of
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printing you do is that right yeah they might
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do larger signs or like something else but they
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need that same kind of quality or in the same
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like color and everything. Correct. Yeah. There's
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very few printers that can do everything, especially
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in Tulsa. It's a, it's a, there's a lot of printers
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in Tulsa, but a lot of them are, are small to
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medium size. So we all have to work together.
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It's, you know, there's some competition there,
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but it's also, we all work together as a family
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of printers. And I think that's pretty cool.
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So that's great. And that's helpful because,
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you know, you've got a place that you can call
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if there's a larger print job that you just know
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what you could do. But then also the fact that
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they know that they can come to you and vice
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versa. It's that's, that speaks a lot. Correct
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Yes Definitely it does and it's also very important
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that we have a level of trust so that there's
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no stealing of customers And I think that's really
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important because if there was that business
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wouldn't continue Very long, so it's good to
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have that level of trust and know that if I send
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a customer somewhere They're gonna get taken
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care of and I'm not going to lose that customer.
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Mm -hmm That's important. So that kind of brings
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us to like the whole question of what sets you
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apart as a printing business Why should someone
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come to like paperboy versus like just sending
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something? Place online that seems like it's
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cheaper. What would set you apart? Yeah, like
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a vista print or any of those because there is
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a difference So can you tell us kind of what
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that would be? Sure. I think it touches on what
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we talked about earlier in that we look at what
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a customer is trying to accomplish first before
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we bring print into the equation. So that may
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be, for example, a nonprofit trying to raise
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funds. So we look at that differently than just
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a transaction where they come to me and say,
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I need X. OK, the price is this. And we sell
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it, and it's over with. We really try to partner
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with them, walk alongside them, understand what
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they're trying to do, and then tailor our solutions
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to exactly what they need, rather than just trying
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to say we're going to compete on price. Because,
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yeah, we're not going to compete with the Vista
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prints and the online printers of the world.
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That's not our niche, and we don't really think
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that we're ever going to be that way. But we
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can compete on service. We can compete on the
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personal aspect of it, the custom solutions tailored
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to exactly what the customer needs. And that's
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really where we make our keep. So say someone
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gets something and it wasn't the right color.
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It's hard to return it to those places So like
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for you, you're gonna you're gonna be careful
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to get it, right? Yes. Yes, and then if there's
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a problem, you're gonna fix it. Absolutely We
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have a hundred percent satisfaction guarantee
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So whatever it takes to get that job, right we
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will do and if we can't we'll give you full refund
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So what what do you think if someone if you had
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to give like several things that would be those
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things that set you apart What would those like
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two or three things be then? Yeah, so number
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one would be the customized, tailored solution.
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So we're not going to sell you anything you don't
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want or need. We're not just going to push what
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we want to sell. We're going to give you exactly
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what you need. And then turnaround time is very
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important. So with an online printer, you may
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order it. It may be here in a week, whereas we
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may be able to be turning something around in
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one to two days. So that's very important. Also,
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the quality control that we have, we produce
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every job one by one. rather than how an online
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printer would do it. They're usually batching
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hundreds of jobs together. So you don't have
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as much control over color. You don't have as
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much control over quality. Whereas we're looking
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at every job, giving it individual attention
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and making sure that it's correct. All right.
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And another question, do you deliver? We do.
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We offer delivery in the Tulsa area and then
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beyond that we offer shipping services as well.
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Okay, so if you needed to like make something
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for your aunt out of town, you could make it
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and ship it to her. Good to know. What sets you
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apart is sort of your... the individual personal
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touch that you have because it's the people are
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the is what's important and not necessarily the
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job itself and I mean I kind of think that sort
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of speaks to what just happened here in the office
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when we just we just do the listeners that don't
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know this you know we had a quick edit because
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a customer walked in while she walked in had
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a nice little conversation she even brought a
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dog in you know and and so we had you know a
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nice little and but I think that speaks to to
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you as a person And that's sort of the type of
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thing that sets a company apart, in my opinion.
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That just the fact that you spend the time with
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her, she's getting her thing right that she needs,
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but she feels, you know, she feels, I don't know
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what's the word, comfortable enough, yeah, to
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come in, you know, and say, oh, do you want to
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see the dog? Oh sure, bring the dog in, you know?
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And so it just, that kind of, that little moment
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that obviously wasn't recorded. It speaks a lot
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of volume to what the business is a little more
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about. It speaks a lot of volume to what the
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business is a little more about. Yes. So it's
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basically adding to your life. I mean, you're
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kind of enhancing people's life with their print.
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So you're making their special moments more special
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and outstanding and excellent versus just like
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something you threw together yourself. You're
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going to notice the color is brighter or it fits
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your theme. So it is a personal thing. thought
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in their head, next time they need something,
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the print is raw. I'll call Aaron, because of
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the personal connection that you now have with
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them. Absolutely. Yeah, I found when I started
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my business, people that I hadn't talked to in
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five, six, seven years came out of the woodworks
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and were like, hey, we want to work with you.
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because you took care of us and that meant a
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lot to us. And so I see that time and time again
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that you take care of someone, they're going
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to give you their trust. They're going to continue
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to work with you. And that's really helped to
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set my business apart early on. Well, I'm excited
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about what's to come. I think it's going to boom
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here. But if we had to leave our listeners with
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something like that, this may be something just
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like your average person wouldn't know about
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printing or a suggestion to them. What would
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you want to say to them? Printing doesn't have
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to be scary. I know when I started as a delivery
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driver, I was young and I was just starting to
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learn the business. It was scary. It was intimidating.
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There's so much to know. And it can be expensive
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when you make a mistake, but here at Paperboy,
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it doesn't have to be that way. We can make it
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easy. We're going to walk you through the process
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and make it enjoyable actually. So you come in
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and you feel taken care of. You feel heard and
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you know that you're going to get a quality product.
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What year would this be for you? Year 11. Okay.
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So going into year 12. I know. This would be
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year 11. He could be one of our kids. Going into
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year 12. A third of his life date. Now here you
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are, 12 years into a printing career. I know,
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it's true. What do you know now that maybe you
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wish you had known back at the beginning? It's
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okay to walk before you run. I know when I was
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young, and even now, I'm very ambitious. I would
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consider myself a go -getter, but at times I
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get a little ahead of myself. So I would say
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it's okay to walk before you run. It's okay to
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take extra time to learn and really, really perfect
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your craft before you take it to market. And
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that's what I've tried to do with this business.
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I've had the desire to start a company for a
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long time, but I didn't do it until I knew I
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was ready and I had a product and a service that
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I felt good about charging for and not just having
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a profit motive. I knew that I had value. I could
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solve problems for people and I could bring them
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something that truly made their lives better.
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You know That's good. That was a great wrap up.
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Yeah, we We've been always working on that's
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our first question everybody. We have an ending
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now, but take that out actually Yes, we do. Yes.
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So thanks for listening. We will put the link
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below to The season is coming up Christmas car
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season this episode as well. So but it gives
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you we'll leave a link to your website and, of
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course, information on how to get in touch with
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you should anybody want to be printing. But thank
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you for letting us invade your brand new territory.
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It's absolutely it's it's it's very cool in here.
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Yeah, of course. Thank you for having me on.
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I really enjoyed it. This is this is your second
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location. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It's right
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off the 43. It's basically much better, much
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more centrally located. Right at, yeah, it really
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is. It's super easy to get here, so it's... Yeah,
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so right convenient to get off the highway. So
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congratulations, very cool. But anyway, thank
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you so much for being with us. And if you have
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any questions about anything, including printing,
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you can email us at mlibpodcasts .gmail .com
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and we would love to respond to your questions
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or comments or whatever. But until next week,
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which will be Veterans Day week next week. We've
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got a very, very special guest that's coming
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up that's going to talk about a very special
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tribute to a veteran that we knew. So anyway,
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we're real excited about that. So join us next
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week for that. So long. Thanks for listening.
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-3492. That's 918 -986 -3492. Or visit paperboyprint
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.com. Welcome to the MLIB Podcast. We're your
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hosts. I'm Dave Steele. And I'm Laura Steele.
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And today we have a very special guest with us
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today. Yes, we have Aaron Vann with Paperboy
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Print and Mail. And we're actually on site at
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his new office. You've been in here for about
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a month, right? Yes, that's correct. Yeah. So
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it's super exciting. He's had his business for
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about a year. Absolutely. It's kind of fun because
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we did a little road trip today. So we're going
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to kind of find out all the good stuff about
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Nancy. Brought all the gear came over to paperboy
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and here we are inside and I will say it smells
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great in here So so that's all things Or Laura
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who who who called air masters out out to air
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masters. Yeah, they have good sense So anyways,
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we want to kind of like find out about printing
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those of you are listening. I bet you printed
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a Christmas card or a card or an invitation or
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professional printing and so we kind of wanted
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to highlight Aaron and what he does So we thought
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we'd start the beginning. So how long have you
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been in printing? Overall over 11 years actually
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started in 2015 as a delivery driver working
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through college with no intention of staying
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in the printing business But found that I loved
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it. So I've been in it a little over 11 years
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Yeah, but hey, so you just started as a delivery
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boy. Everybody has to start somewhere. That's
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right That's a good place to start. So then how
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did you kind of like what was the story? Did
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you go to college and then come back to printing
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or how did that kind of happen? So I worked there
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all the way through college and kind of transitioned
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through various roles and basically have done
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Every job in the printing business, which I think
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was really good experience for me. It gave me
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a taste of everything I figured out what I liked
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what I didn't like and Yeah, it was good To kind
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of know the whole thing from start to finish
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then correct. That's really important So that
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would make it nice to like end up starting your
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own business So what are like if I'm a person
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and I'm wanting to get? What do I need to know
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if I'm coming to your company and wanting to
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print? What would be where would be a starting
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point to kind of give a people what you do and
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how you do it and that kind of thing So I think
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it's best to actually start not talking about
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printing. So we want you to come to us with an
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idea, maybe, or tell us what you're trying to
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accomplish and then we can advise you on the
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print. So you really don't know, you don't have
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to know anything. We can help you with that.
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And so we'll link a website and everything and
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your information to that. So when you say an
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idea, so we could just be like, I'm wanting to
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make an invitation. What kind of questions are
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you going to ask people? Yeah, so first thing
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we always ask is, when do you need it? So timeline
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is everything in our business. And then we also
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ask how many you need. And those two questions
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really help steer the ship as far as which direction
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to go. Okay, so you can get it designed for them
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So I dabble I dabble I'm by no means a professional
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of Designers that I work with that I send work
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to and they take care of that. So yeah. Yeah,
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correct So if someone's looking at that like
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what when you're when you're talking paper to
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people How do they know like how do you know?
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What kind of paper you're wanting people are
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wanting and how do you just help them decide
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that? Yeah, so we have standard papers for different
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items, but a lot of it's very visual So I have
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sample books that I can show the customers and
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they can see touching now So I went to NSU Broken
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Arrow. Well, I went to a few different schools,
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but I graduated from NSU Broken Arrow, worked
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at the printing business throughout college,
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and again, worked through basically every role
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within the printing business and found that I
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loved it, mainly because of the people aspect
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of it. I loved working with people because printing
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usually marks some of the most important moments
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of your life, whether that's weddings, graduations,
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baby showers, all kinds of things. So you get
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to know the people. It's very relational. It's
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very personal. It's very meaningful. What did
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you actually go to school for? What did you think
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you were going to go into? Business administration.
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And I had no idea what I was going to do. I had
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not a clue. Correct. Well, it ended up being
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your perfect major, though, for starting a company.
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It really all worked out perfectly. If I could
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have planned it, I think I wouldn't have done
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as good as I ended up doing. Absolutely. Because
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it just worked out. That's incredible. That's
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very cool. I think God has his hand on me and
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my journey throughout all of that. And yeah,
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it worked out. Hey, yeah, so I just want to mention
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Aaron just turned 30 and he has his own business.
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This is a big deal He's a young and he's got
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his own business. I mean, it's like a neat you're
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kind of in in a Smaller group of people so anyways
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also I want to say like as far as jobs like if
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people are interested in getting something done
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Is there anything too small for you or too big
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for you? Let give us the kind of What's the smallest
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things you do? What's the big things you do?
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Because I know you do mail too, and then you
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do small projects too. Correct. Yeah, we do a
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lot of small projects. No minimums. Really nothing
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is too small for us. There are jobs that are
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too big for us, and we are really upfront with
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customers about that. We never want to mislead
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them or take on a project that we can't execute
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really well. So I would say anything up to about
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10 ,000 pieces, whether that's postcards or envelopes
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or posters, whatever it may be, about 10 ,000
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pieces would be the cutoff before we might recommend
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you to a larger printer. And what about size?
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Like what's the biggest size you do? So I can
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do up to 13 inches by 19 inches. So that covers
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just about everything. Uh, as far as postcards,
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business cards, brochures, booklets, posters,
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like a real large display, wall size or something
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like that. You would, you would point them somewhere
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to print that. Right. Exactly. Correct. Yeah.
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I try to let the people that do that best do
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it rather than me try to play middleman and not
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necessarily give them the best product or service.
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Yeah. Being November. Yeah. So I was thinking
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you just recently have done a lot of mailers
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here with the political. Season yeah, so I like
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that's a pretty big thing you do what other kind
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of mailers you do like we do a lot of nonprofit
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mailers a lot of fundraising a lot of invitations
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And then we also do for service -based businesses
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like lawn care companies Christmas light companies.
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We do mailers for them really Do you is that
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something that you also offer as far as like
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I'm a person who's coming in that needs a political
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thing that's gonna that's gonna go out because
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election day is coming up and so you know you
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want to get those so you'll you could whether
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it be design or if you already have the right
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brochure whatever it is of That hand it to you.
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You can print off, but you can also do the mailing
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side of that as well Yes, we also handle the
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mailing. So that typically starts with targeting
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a list of people. Some customers have a list
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that they bring to us. We can also provide a
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list if they give us maybe a particular area
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or demographic of people they're trying to target.
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We can procure that list and prepare it and process
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it for them and get ready for mailing. And it's
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about 50 -50. Some customers have a list and
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then we provide a list for others. And then for
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that, I think it's big as when they want the
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drop date, right? Yes, yes, that's very important
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goes to the post office and then you want to
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figure out like how many days you Usually figure
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for people to get it. It's local. So for local
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it varies So I'm I want to be very careful about
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how I answer this It might be snail mail two
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to four days locally sometimes sooner, but two
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to four days for local and then beyond that You
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know, it does take a little longer. I'd say four
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to six days typically for further away. But really
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the post office defines their, for bulk mail,
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two to 10 days is their actual delivery window.
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So that can vary pretty widely, but that's what
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I've seen in my experience. So if people have
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like a list, can you merge that on or can they
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send you a list of names like if they have their
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own names for a mailer? Of course. So that even
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so like if someone want to send out Christmas
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cards, they don't want to print them all out.
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Can you print the envelope? Absolutely. Okay.
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We make that process super simple. All you have
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to do is send us an Excel file. We take it from
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there, print it onto the envelopes or the postcards
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or whatever it is you're mailing. And so that's
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seamless. Very easy. Nice. Yeah, so like if anybody
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who's doing like upcoming if you have like an
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invitation for weddings They can do that. You
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also do other things for weddings I might add
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because you did a bunch of stuff for my kids
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for their weddings So what kind of things do
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you do for like special events like as far as
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that? Yeah, so we can help with signage like
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foam core, you know, welcome signs Seating charts
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those types of things and then we can also help
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with place cards invitations so What would you
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say is your favorite part of this world? I mean,
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I know you originally got in as a driver which
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I For me, I loved doing that but great. It was
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pizza But you know when you're 18 years old 19
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years old driving around listening to your radio
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and get paid for it You know while you're delivering
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something. It's pretty cool pretty cool deal.
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So my question What what what is your favorite
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part of it? What drives you to? Definitely the
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people aspect of it. Again, like I mentioned
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earlier, the important events throughout people's
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lives that we get to help them with. And a lot
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of times it starts out with me seeing a journey
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in someone's life where I might start out printing
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their wedding invitations and then a year later,
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maybe they're having a baby and then that baby
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gets old and has birthdays. And then later that
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baby gets older and graduates. And so we get
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to be a part of people's lives for many, many
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years. And so that's really exciting. And then
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on the business side of things, we do a lot of
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work for nonprofits. And so helping them fundraise,
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helping them to interact with their donors and
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volunteers, uh, is really rewarding work. Um,
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I don't look at that so much as a business thing
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as I do. My life to serve that. Just plants in
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your brain that you think, Oh, that was, I'm
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really glad I did that. You've got one coming
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up that you're gonna donate some stuff to you
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want every year you want to donate to a nonprofit
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That would be kind of interesting because that's
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gonna be helpful for them. Yeah. Yeah, that's
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a great point So what we have started doing is
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a quarterly printing grant for nonprofits of
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$1 ,000 So we take nominations again quarterly
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and so the next one would be in January And so
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people will nominate a nonprofit and then we
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will at random select a nonprofit and then give
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them a $1 ,000 printing grant And so you'll go
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out there and kind of see what their printing
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needs are and what they're interested in. So
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it's kind of really tailored specifically to
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that specific organization. It's not like a general,
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you get business cards or you get a flyer. It's
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like, what do they need that would help their,
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it's not a company, their nonprofit grow. I can
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assume that maybe some people might nominate
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the nonprofit, but the nonprofit doesn't necessarily
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know they've been nominated. I mean, is that
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something? How cool would that be to just have
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you show up and say, Hey, here's a thousand dollars
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in printing that you have. That actually happened
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with our first recipient. It's an organization
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called Light of Hope out of Claremore and they
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were recommended by someone that I'm in a networking
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group with and they had no idea. I called them
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and they were overjoyed. They said we were actually
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just about to start a printing campaign and we
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were talking to companies about quotes and so
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you called us at a perfect time. I mean that's
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just really cool. Yeah, it's nice that you can
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give back because I think you don't realize people
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think everything's digital, but there's still
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so much paper. Oh, absolutely. from business
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cards to flyers and you go to doctor's offices.
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There's just so much paper more than you think.
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So I think there's a return to that. People are
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getting fatigued with the digital world and it
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is nonstop. It never stops. I don't know about
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you guys, but my email every day is just flooded
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with things that I don't know how they got my
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email. I don't know how I signed up for it. Yeah.
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Some getting something in the mail feels special.
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It feels personal in your hand. It's just a really
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enjoyable read from or write to or whatever.
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It's just, there's something obviously very tactile
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about it, but something very satisfying. And
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that might be my age talking because I used to
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enjoy picking up a newspaper and thumbing through
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it as opposed to flipping your thumb up and scrolling
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to the next thing. It's a nice thing to have.
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You just mentioned to us a little bit ago about
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wholesaling, and that's a good chunk of your
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business as well right now. So explain what that
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is, how that works. Yes, of course. Yes, so I
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have a network of printers that I send business
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to, but they also send business to me. And I
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think that is a testament to the business that
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we run here that other printers would trust us
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to do work for them. So the way that works is
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pretty straightforward is that other printers
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will send us work. We've established a wholesale
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price that they can take and then sell to their
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customers and still make money. So we don't make
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the margins we normally would on a retail customer,
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but it's a really good business. And again, we're
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taking care of a printer that may help us with
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the price. down the road so it's it's good to
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have that they might not do the same kind of
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printing you do is that right yeah they might
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do larger signs or like something else but they
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need that same kind of quality or in the same
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like color and everything. Correct. Yeah. There's
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very few printers that can do everything, especially
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in Tulsa. It's a, it's a, there's a lot of printers
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in Tulsa, but a lot of them are, are small to
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medium size. So we all have to work together.
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It's, you know, there's some competition there,
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but it's also, we all work together as a family
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of printers. And I think that's pretty cool.
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So that's great. And that's helpful because,
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you know, you've got a place that you can call
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if there's a larger print job that you just know
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what you could do. But then also the fact that
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they know that they can come to you and vice
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versa. It's that's, that speaks a lot. Correct
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Yes Definitely it does and it's also very important
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that we have a level of trust so that there's
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no stealing of customers And I think that's really
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important because if there was that business
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wouldn't continue Very long, so it's good to
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have that level of trust and know that if I send
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a customer somewhere They're gonna get taken
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care of and I'm not going to lose that customer.
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Mm -hmm That's important. So that kind of brings
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us to like the whole question of what sets you
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apart as a printing business Why should someone
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come to like paperboy versus like just sending
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something? Place online that seems like it's
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cheaper. What would set you apart? Yeah, like
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a vista print or any of those because there is
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a difference So can you tell us kind of what
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that would be? Sure. I think it touches on what
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we talked about earlier in that we look at what
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a customer is trying to accomplish first before
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we bring print into the equation. So that may
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be, for example, a nonprofit trying to raise
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funds. So we look at that differently than just
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a transaction where they come to me and say,
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I need X. OK, the price is this. And we sell
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it, and it's over with. We really try to partner
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with them, walk alongside them, understand what
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they're trying to do, and then tailor our solutions
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to exactly what they need, rather than just trying
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to say we're going to compete on price. Because,
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yeah, we're not going to compete with the Vista
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prints and the online printers of the world.
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That's not our niche, and we don't really think
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that we're ever going to be that way. But we
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can compete on service. We can compete on the
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personal aspect of it, the custom solutions tailored
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to exactly what the customer needs. And that's
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really where we make our keep. So say someone
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gets something and it wasn't the right color.
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It's hard to return it to those places So like
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for you, you're gonna you're gonna be careful
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to get it, right? Yes. Yes, and then if there's
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a problem, you're gonna fix it. Absolutely We
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have a hundred percent satisfaction guarantee
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So whatever it takes to get that job, right we
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will do and if we can't we'll give you full refund
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So what what do you think if someone if you had
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to give like several things that would be those
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things that set you apart What would those like
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two or three things be then? Yeah, so number
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one would be the customized, tailored solution.
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So we're not going to sell you anything you don't
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want or need. We're not just going to push what
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we want to sell. We're going to give you exactly
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what you need. And then turnaround time is very
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important. So with an online printer, you may
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order it. It may be here in a week, whereas we
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may be able to be turning something around in
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one to two days. So that's very important. Also,
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the quality control that we have, we produce
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every job one by one. rather than how an online
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printer would do it. They're usually batching
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hundreds of jobs together. So you don't have
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as much control over color. You don't have as
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much control over quality. Whereas we're looking
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at every job, giving it individual attention
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and making sure that it's correct. All right.
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And another question, do you deliver? We do.
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We offer delivery in the Tulsa area and then
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beyond that we offer shipping services as well.
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Okay, so if you needed to like make something
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for your aunt out of town, you could make it
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and ship it to her. Good to know. What sets you
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apart is sort of your... the individual personal
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touch that you have because it's the people are
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the is what's important and not necessarily the
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job itself and I mean I kind of think that sort
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of speaks to what just happened here in the office
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when we just we just do the listeners that don't
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know this you know we had a quick edit because
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a customer walked in while she walked in had
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a nice little conversation she even brought a
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dog in you know and and so we had you know a
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nice little and but I think that speaks to to
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you as a person And that's sort of the type of
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thing that sets a company apart, in my opinion.
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That just the fact that you spend the time with
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her, she's getting her thing right that she needs,
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but she feels, you know, she feels, I don't know
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what's the word, comfortable enough, yeah, to
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come in, you know, and say, oh, do you want to
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see the dog? Oh sure, bring the dog in, you know?
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And so it just, that kind of, that little moment
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that obviously wasn't recorded. It speaks a lot
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of volume to what the business is a little more
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about. It speaks a lot of volume to what the
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business is a little more about. Yes. So it's
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basically adding to your life. I mean, you're
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kind of enhancing people's life with their print.
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So you're making their special moments more special
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and outstanding and excellent versus just like
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something you threw together yourself. You're
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going to notice the color is brighter or it fits
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your theme. So it is a personal thing. thought
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in their head, next time they need something,
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the print is raw. I'll call Aaron, because of
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the personal connection that you now have with
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them. Absolutely. Yeah, I found when I started
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my business, people that I hadn't talked to in
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five, six, seven years came out of the woodworks
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and were like, hey, we want to work with you.
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because you took care of us and that meant a
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lot to us. And so I see that time and time again
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that you take care of someone, they're going
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to give you their trust. They're going to continue
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to work with you. And that's really helped to
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set my business apart early on. Well, I'm excited
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about what's to come. I think it's going to boom
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here. But if we had to leave our listeners with
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something like that, this may be something just
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like your average person wouldn't know about
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printing or a suggestion to them. What would
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you want to say to them? Printing doesn't have
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to be scary. I know when I started as a delivery
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driver, I was young and I was just starting to
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learn the business. It was scary. It was intimidating.
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There's so much to know. And it can be expensive
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when you make a mistake, but here at Paperboy,
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it doesn't have to be that way. We can make it
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easy. We're going to walk you through the process
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and make it enjoyable actually. So you come in
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and you feel taken care of. You feel heard and
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you know that you're going to get a quality product.
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What year would this be for you? Year 11. Okay.
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So going into year 12. I know. This would be
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year 11. He could be one of our kids. Going into
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year 12. A third of his life date. Now here you
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are, 12 years into a printing career. I know,
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it's true. What do you know now that maybe you
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wish you had known back at the beginning? It's
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okay to walk before you run. I know when I was
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young, and even now, I'm very ambitious. I would
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consider myself a go -getter, but at times I
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get a little ahead of myself. So I would say
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it's okay to walk before you run. It's okay to
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take extra time to learn and really, really perfect
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your craft before you take it to market. And
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that's what I've tried to do with this business.
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I've had the desire to start a company for a
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long time, but I didn't do it until I knew I
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was ready and I had a product and a service that
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I felt good about charging for and not just having
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a profit motive. I knew that I had value. I could
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solve problems for people and I could bring them
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something that truly made their lives better.
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You know That's good. That was a great wrap up.
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Yeah, we We've been always working on that's
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our first question everybody. We have an ending
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now, but take that out actually Yes, we do. Yes.
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So thanks for listening. We will put the link
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below to The season is coming up Christmas car
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season this episode as well. So but it gives
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you we'll leave a link to your website and, of
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course, information on how to get in touch with
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you should anybody want to be printing. But thank
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you for letting us invade your brand new territory.
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It's absolutely it's it's it's very cool in here.
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Yeah, of course. Thank you for having me on.
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I really enjoyed it. This is this is your second
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location. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. It's right
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off the 43. It's basically much better, much
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more centrally located. Right at, yeah, it really
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is. It's super easy to get here, so it's... Yeah,
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so right convenient to get off the highway. So
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congratulations, very cool. But anyway, thank
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you so much for being with us. And if you have
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any questions about anything, including printing,
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you can email us at mlibpodcasts .gmail .com
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and we would love to respond to your questions
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or comments or whatever. But until next week,
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which will be Veterans Day week next week. We've
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got a very, very special guest that's coming
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up that's going to talk about a very special
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tribute to a veteran that we knew. So anyway,
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we're real excited about that. So join us next
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week for that. So long. Thanks for listening.