Episode 575: Tevaun Smith Talks NCAA to NFL Transition, Toughest Defenders, and Injury Recovery

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We're back Mitchell Portlin's podcast. I'm here with football player, my.
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Guy, Yes, Tavon Smith, entrepreneurial, former NFL, CFL athlete, So
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glad to be here.
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Man, you know I'm here to talk to straight straight
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NFL with you, CFL NC double A no particular order.
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I'm going to go right into the conversation. When you
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played at Iowa, name your top three hardest defenders I
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had to cover you on that great iron man.
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I would say.
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I'm biased because it's guys that I've that I was
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I played with rather than playing against, meaning they're on
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my team and I had to go against them every
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day and practice, and I would I would tell I
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told people that, like I went to school with Micah Hyde.
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He played for the Bills and had a great career
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Green Bay got drafted to but he played played after
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maybe like ten or eleven years. And I always tell
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people like I wasn't able to catch a pass on
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that guy, like he was probably like he was just
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very smooth, knew how to cover, like smart. I'd say,
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he's definitely a guy that that that was tough to
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go against. And then when it came to other guys
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on other teams. Well, go back to my team had
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a guy named Desmond King. He got drafted. He was
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like the he won the uh the the Jim Thorpe Award,
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which is the best corner in the country that that year.
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So I had to go against him in practice a lot.
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So I played with really two really really good dbs
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that I played against, ever played against in practice. And
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then when it came to other teams in our conference,
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I would say Michigan State had at one point had
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two very good corners. They had Trey Wayne's and dark
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Wes Deynard. And I'd say, those were those those are
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my those are my top four.
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Those are your top four.
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I like that.
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I like that speak to them days in n C
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double a Iowa right, because I feel like now my
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audience the world is starting to get introduced to more
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Iowa because if Caitlyn Clark. Yeah, so back around those
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days for you was like, what twenty twelve correct, yes, twelve,
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twenty twelve, right, how was that atmosphere out there and
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things like that.
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And I was it's a football town and they're big
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on wrestling too, so it's football and wrestling, not so
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much basketball at that time. And man's a great experience.
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Like you live in a college town. There's no professional
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team and you are where everybody comes to see every
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single Saturday for the entire football season. Right and then
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and then you win games, they love you. You lose games,
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they love you. You know, obviously you lose too many and
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they won't they won't, right, But it's a great It's
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a great place to play ball if you want to
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have a true football experience.
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Division on football. I was a great college town.
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I love that. Speak to the because you probably didn't
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do much tailgating and things like that, right, but speak
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to that college atmosphere because I think a lot of
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Canadians have O U A. We don't we tailgate. We
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don't tailgate like that. But that energy you're hearing, the crowd,
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the cheerleaders, all of that really speak to us Canadians
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here about.
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That, man, it's different. Yeah, it's different.
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You can hear you can hear everything rumbling from the
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locker room, right, people stomping when we're coming out walking
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out of that tunnel. It's crazy, like people are just
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slamming against the bleachers when we're walking out. And then
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we have a song it's called back in black, So
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just everybody slamming on beat with it.
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You can hear it. It's crazy.
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It's always a sold out stadium, seventies eighty thousand people
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there and that that's a different, different type of type
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of film coming out to that. And in terms of
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the tailgate man, people start tailgating from early in the morning.
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They're drinking, barbecuing, having a good time the entire day
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until game time. And we don't even stay in the
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city like we people are actually partying from the night
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before as well, so going into the next day. So
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when you when you think about these tailgatings, just imagine, like,
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you know, one you're staying outside the city twenty thirty
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minutes out and you're driving police escort to get back
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into the city and when you get when you get
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in front of the stadium, it's just a sea of
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black and yellow people just waiting for you to get
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off the bus. And then obviously there's a long line
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of like security staff making like a lane for you
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so you can get into the stadium and and everybody
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just cheering you on.
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She's yelling before the game.
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Yeah, you know, kids high five in obviously they want
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to that fan engagement's pretty dope. But man, it's it's
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an experience that you know, obviously you don't get that
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out here in Canada, and it's kind of hard to
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explain once you you see it on a video.
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But once you're there and you're coming off.
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The bus and you see everybody just like it's out
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there waight and yelling, that's crazy.
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Yeah, I lovely you say that. What would you say
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was your defining moment being in Iowa if it was
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either on the field off the field.
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The finding moment for me was.
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One just like I guess my first like touchdown, you know,
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like like I'm okay, I'm here right. Sometimes like you're
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you're kind of just playing and then you look back
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you're like, man, like that first touchdown like made me realize,
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like I'm actually good enough to be here. I'm actually
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there's one thing doing it in practice, but when you translate
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with what you do in practice into the game.
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It's it's it's it's hell of rewarding, right right.
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So when you when you when it comes to making
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these plays in front of that many fans like and
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everybody's just yelling and roaring, and.
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The the the the the.
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Everybody's enthusiasm, everybody's you know, most of them are drunk
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halfway drunk.
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As well, But like it's just it's it's a different experience.
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So I would say that was one of my finding moments,
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just scoring my first touchdo having that type of confidence
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in myself and like not being afraid, you know, because
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you're playing in front of a lot.
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Of people, you at least have the game ball for that, right, Yeah,
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okay it matter of fact, college you don't get to
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keep the game ball.
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In the league, you do, but college, no, you have
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to get that thing back.
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Oh you got to give it back.
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Yeah, I got my first touchdown, I got my first touchdowns.
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And whether it's the NFL, CFL but not not not
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love maybe now I don't know if they do it
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now because now these guys are making millions of dollars
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right in college, so they might yah charge me for
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the football.
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I look at it from a memorable as a standpoint,
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you know what I mean, Like you put that in
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that glass case. It's something you can look back at
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generations passing it down, you know what I mean. And
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things like that that I feel like there's so many
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moments that we see even like as fans watching the game. Yeah,
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that we remember visually, it doesn't matter if it's the
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NBA or NFL. College football things like that.
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I feel like I lacked that too.
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Yeah, like capturing those moments, Like I have some picture
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and videos from college, but I'm like, man, I wish
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I took more shots at those moments right now I'm
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getting older. I'm like, no, I'm taking pictures of everybody.
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Got to with all my friends. You gotta do it
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for sure.
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So speak to all the NFL because that's that's that's
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prime time, that's prime time. That's that's the mecca. Speak
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to playing in the NFL. Those practices, the tranches, things
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like that, how did that look different from the college
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game now that you're in the pros?
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Yeah, i IOWA does a really good job at running
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their practices like pros. Like where I where I went
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to school, and the head coach there, Kirk Farance, he's
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been there for so long and he runs his practices
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a lot like NFL practice, And they say, like Iowa,
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there's stats that IOWA has one of the most, Like
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Iowa are sorry, NFL already players because our transition is
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fairly easier, just the way we run our practices in
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our programs.
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So yes, was it hard, Yeah it was.
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But I was also prepared because we were our program
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was ran the way it was ran. So you know,
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going going into into the league, the biggest thing is
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just now, like in college, everybody is really good, but
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in the NFL whatever pro league that you're in, like,
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now everybody's like really really good, all right, because to
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be honest that you have your guys that are you know,
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you think about you being the best in your team
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and everybody's being the best on their team. Now all
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the best on those teams, it's like the one percent
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of the one percent, right, so the best five people.
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Now you're the best of the best of those five.
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Then it just gets tighter and tighter in terms of talent, right,
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So yeah, it's different, man, this is different.
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Yeah.
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So when you're because I haven't here Colts twenty sixteen,
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So who is I'm trying to now vividly jog back
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my brain. Who was there? Andrew Lockdays? No, yeah, Andrew
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lock Days, Laurron Landry I think was on that team
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around that time. No, No, I wasn't there was that
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probably be.
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After maybe after it might have just before I got.
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This, before you got there, I thought he would be
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still there.
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No, we had Adam vin Terry, yeah, Robert Mathis, Andrew
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luck yep, t Y Hilton.
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There you go.
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Yeah, we had on our defense we had Antonio Cammarti
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for a little bit.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. It was a handful of guy.
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Yeah, the lineup across the field for him though, Now,
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how was that?
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It was?
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He?
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He was one of the guys.
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He was one of them.
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He was one of them dudes.
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He was Yeah, he definitely was.
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Remember uh as a rookie, it always have me after practice,
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like do releases of that stuff with them one because
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they always use this as dummies as the rookies, right
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like just hey I need to work on this.
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They're working with me.
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But I took I took advantage of those because now
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I get the practice, have my own reps and talk
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to him about what he sees or whatever the case
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may be. So HEO was like, hey, TV were doing
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release give me like ten okay, cool, got it right,
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And he could have picked anybody, right, he could have
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picked like a bunch of like a bunch of other
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guys but he chose like maybe one or two guys like, yo,
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let me get some releases because obviously you know there's
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other guys that that he that that are on a
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lot of receivers, right, But I just love taking advantage
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of those opportunities to just like talk talk football.
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Speak to releases they sold for the audience so they
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understand what that is.
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Yeah, So a release is basically like there's an obviously
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there's the receiver, and then there's the and then there's
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the defensive back and in order to get off the line,
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you have to obviously give him some sort of release
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to get open to get onto your route. So whenever
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you see a defender and he gets in there and
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he's doing his little whatever, that's a release. Then he
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gets into his route and runs his route.
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Right.
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So that's something that a lot of receivers and corners do,
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whether it's obviously they do in the game and in practice,
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but we work on work on that before and after practice,
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whether it's techniques angles, because you know that you can't
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get if you can't get off the ball, you're not
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going to catch the football. So you'll learn how to
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do that first before you even run the route and
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before you even catch the football.
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So I feel you speak when you when you talk
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about football. I really wanted to tap into this because
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since you played at both levels, the pro level, college level,
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you're outdoors, being indoors. Did you have a preference. I
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understand you still have to play the game, but was
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there a preference that was for you that you were
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like you liked s.
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I would love to play inside when it's cold, like
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we all do.
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Yeah, but the I know, I didn't really have any preference.
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I think I think at the night games, like obviously,
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if you're playing inside, it's not really it's a night game,
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but not really because it's fairly bright in there. But
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if you're if you're playing a night game, like if
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you think obviously high school Friday night lights. But if
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you're playing a night game in uh in college, it's
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it's different.
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And that game starts at seven. You're waiting all day
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to anticipation, anxiety, but then you get there. And I
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think last week, actually I will play Minnesota and it
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was a blackout game, so everybody wore black, so the
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stadium was just black. Jersey's black, and it's dark. It's
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just it's it's so dope. But yeah, I mean those
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those are those are cool games to play. So in
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terms of what I like better, I guess i'd probably
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say outside then I love that.
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So have you gone back to what ever? Since? It's like,
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go check it out, go watch games.
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I was there.
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I was there a few months ago, and I'm actually
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going back like in the next week and a half,
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and I'm actually gonna be tailgating. I never got. I
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never got, I never got the tail you get the
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experience now, ye, I never got a tailgate before, and
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I'm actually I'm actually doing a tailgating event as well.
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That's a little podcast maybe.
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Yeah, it's gonna be yeah, exactly exactly.
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Like there's gonna be some heavy hitters there.
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There'll be some, it's not Yeah, it's like more so
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an experience like showcasing. Like you said, the O U
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A doesn't have the tailgate. A lot of people don't
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know what that is. Now what I'm gonna do is
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I'm gonna go out there and show what a tailgate
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looks like in Iowa City.
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Yeah, I'll be checking that.
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It's gonna be.
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It's gonna be for sure, for sure, so you played
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in Jacksonville. Yeah, right, the Jaguars. Yeah, that was a
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team that I'm a Patriots guy, right, and I remember
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that one year maybe that was right around the time
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because that Jacksonville Jaguars team had a loaded defense, yes,
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and everybody thought they were going to be New England
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that year. Yeah, you know what I mean. I remember
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that speak to that culture because there was there's some
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road dogs over there. Yeah.
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So I got to Jacksonville a little bit late and
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going into that playoff run, and I didn't I was
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more I was I was on practice squad at the
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time too, so I got there late. So I was
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really although I was always knew there, I was getting
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used to how it was in Jacksonville. And man, like
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that season, you know, was a different type of experience
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because like Duval County, like, yeah, those fans were going
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crazy and it was a good a good a good
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team for sure, and great defense. You're going you got
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Jalen Ramsey, you got a j Boyer, you got the
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D line, you got they call him Saxonville. Yeah right,
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Kalas Campbell. These guys are massive, right, Miles Jack at linebacker.
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But yeah, that that experience was dope. I mean, I
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think I think, like you don't really think about that
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stuff until people actually ask. You're like, you know what,
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like that was actually a dope experience. That was a
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really good team or that was whatever. And I don't
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know how they managed to get rid of a handful
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of those guys. It's crazy. It was a whole other
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thing in Jacksonville.
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I've said this, if they would have kept at least
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half of that defense when Trevor Lawrence gets there, Yeah,
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I believe, not saying they're gonna win the Super Bowl,
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but they would have. They would have made some they
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would have made some noise. Yes, they would have made
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some noise. But you know, that's the thing about the
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game of football, right It's it's it's any given Sunday.
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You could say it's any given Thursdays, well, you know,
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and things like that, or Monday or Monday. Yeah, it's
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it's so much wrapped up in the one because you see,
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the game can just ebbs and flows and just change
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within a matter of time. It takes one injury and
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that's it, you know what I mean, Goodbye to the
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season and stuff like that.
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Yes, exactly.
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You train for years and then boom, one thing happens
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and how you're out for the year or maybe two.
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I mean, I just saw Tyreek Hill have a gruesome injury.
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Will he come back maybe, but it's a good chance.
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That he might not.
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Right, even look at Scatable? Man, yeah, that one was crazy, right,
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I was. He was doing so well.
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Right, I was coming out of a movie prior to
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recording when this how it happened. By the time this
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comes out, and I was like, wait, Scatable got injured,
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and that was the first thing that was on my
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timeline on Instagram, I was like, damn, yeah, Angle, yeah,
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I look bad, Like what is going on?
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Yeah, you know, it's tough seeing that stuff. Man, Like.
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I was grateful that I never got anything too crazy,
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But now I'm like, I'm like, not that I'm happy,
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I still love football, but I'm like, man like, thank god,
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not that I'm not playing, but thank God, Like, you know,
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I can kind of sit back and not even have
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to think about that again, you know what I mean,
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that could happen to me right by playing the game.
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So there seems to be a rise of injuries now
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in sport, NBA, NFL. You think it's because the game
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is faster or do you think it's we're not getting
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enough rest.
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I think it's a little bit of both. I think
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the game is getting faster, guys are getting bigger, faster,
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and stronger. But like football also isn't what it used
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to be in terms of like the aggressiveness, Like you
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can't you can't hit as hard, you can't hit with
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the crown of your helmet as much as you used
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to before. So is that a little bit different. Yes,
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So it's like it's kind of it's kind of tough
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to kind of pinpoint, to be honest, because like, yeah,
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like everything's faster, for sure, but in terms of it
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might be the recovery because now you're playing more games,
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you know, and it's week after week, and because you're
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so you're you're you're pushing yourself so hard, it could
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you know, have an effect on how you perform in
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your recovery.
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Although we think we.
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Feel good, signs might tell us we feel good, but like,
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can they really check your bones and your ligaments weekly daily,
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Like we don't know that. So I guess sometimes it
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could feel kind of weird just you know, kind of
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just experience and like all those injuries, watching these games
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and all the guys a getting hurt.
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It's like, yeah, because I speak to this from a
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personal trainer background that I had right from what we're
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going twenty twenty ten all the way to basically twenty
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twenty when the world shut down. So training with athletes
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in the later part from twenty eighteen onward or to
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twenty twenty, it was a little different to see like
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their training regimes and stuff like that.
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When you're in college.
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So I've always said, is it has to be the
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off season preparation that's going to prepare you, right, because
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you got to think about these moments that you have
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where within the moment's notice like some of these injuries
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are freak injuries. We're not talking about like Okay it's
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a hamstring, Okay, it's a shoulder or finger. Now we're
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seeing like your your body contorting in the next your
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ankle or your knee. It's like it's getting to a
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point where it's like damn, you know what I mean.
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And I think that I've played basketball at like a
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more of how do I say this, I played against
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some elite competition summer league, winter leagues and stuff like
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that in the city, but it's like that recovery is
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a lot different because some people just come off the
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come off the bench, come out the street, closed, don't
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even stretch, don't even warm up, and they're on the
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court shooting and putting up twenty And you're like, yeah,
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you didn't stretch, would you? Like, you know, I take
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the game seriously, and I know you take the game seriously.
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So it's like, when you're playing at this level, you
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have to have this killer instinct mentality where it's like, yo,
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we gotta do what we gotta do. But it's like
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some people are just like, oh, athletes just show up. Yeah, no,
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they don't know, they don't just show up.
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Actually, when you get older, you got to make sure
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you do get that warm up right or you're gonna
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pull something right.
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And trust me, where we sit at our respective ages,
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the injuries ain't they're not nice now, you know what
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I mean. Like you even rolled your ankle one time.
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It's like, Yo, that's recovery isn't much longer, right, It's
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not two days, it's two weeks.
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Two nights, right, So speak to your rest and recovery
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after training days. Right, So you have the training element,
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then you have the practice element. Then you have the
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game element, So speak to those.
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Three man I. It's all done in the off season, right.
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The off season is where you kind of train your
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body with a certain schedule. So you know, once you're
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getting into like okay, we're getting into the nitty gritty.
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Now we gotta get ready for the season. Now we
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got to ramp things up. How does that look? Starts
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with the time you wake up. If you're gonna wake
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up during the season around six seven o'clock in the morning,
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probably start keeping that same schedule now going into these
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going into the the that off season when things kind
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of get get kind of serious. And then from there
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it's just like locking in and doubling down on on
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on on the amount of time that you have on
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the field and off because you don't want to be
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spending too much time on the field where you can
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where you can't get the recovery in to do the
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running later or vice versa. Right, So, how my training
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was with my coach was we would go on the field,
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we'll do our do our stuff, and then we'll go
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to the we'll go to the uh to the gym
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after and that kind of simulates what it would be
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for practice. You go out, you're in the sun in
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the heat, run and run and running. Now you go
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back and you lift and you do whatever you need
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to do. Now, during the season, you've done all that
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stuff you're training for. However long now it's just maintaining.
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Now it's like, okay, not only do we maintain, how
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can we stay strong? How do we how can we
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possibly get stronger?
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Right?
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So, now as things ramp up on the running side,
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you're trying to match how that might how that might
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be during the season in terms of what you do
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in the gym. So now you don't want to kill
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yourself because now you have two hours with the practice,
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but you also have to make sure you're working on
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those little little muscles. What what's big or what was
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big for me was working on like the hamstrings. Because
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you're running all day. How are we going to recover
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that in the tubs, the massages, the just the regular
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recovery because you're gonna have to go to practice the
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very next day and do it again and again and again.
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So how are you going to do that?
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Maybe some extra runs after practice, maybe you know a
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little bit more active recovery, or sometimes strengthening the hamstring
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even more, getting in there doing some hamstring curls and
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doing whatever the case. Although you're kind of sore, do
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you have to take advantage of the off days, but
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they take advantage of the of the of of of
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the days where you where you have to actually get
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get right during during during during the season. So like
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the like even the structure of practice, the structure of
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practice changes like from day one, day two, day three,
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practice is supposed to get like Day two is usually
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like your big bulk day. We're doing a lot of
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a lot of stuff, and then day three is pretty
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much kind of when we taper back on the plays.
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But those are the days that you can probably do
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something else on the recovery side or on the on
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the conditioning.
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Side, because practice is a little bit lighter.
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But then you got a game, so you have to
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make sure that off that off day is good so
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that you can transition into that when you have walked
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through before the game and then boom, it's game day.
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How do you feel between those times, those those little
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00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:37.519
things are just so important when it comes to like training,
489
00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:40.200
whether it's in the season, in the off season, and
490
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:41.519
then everything else in between.
491
00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:43.640
Love that you say that, because it even goes down
492
00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:45.920
to like the nutrition.
493
00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.319
Aspect as well. Of course, right, can't forget that.
494
00:23:48.279 --> 00:23:51.000
So speak to leading up before you get in the game,
495
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:53.920
because maybe it looked different from when you're at college
496
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:57.000
to the NFL to CFL. What would the pregame, what
497
00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.359
your pregame meal look like? Speak to the audience. I
498
00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:01.000
definitely have a good a good breakfast.
499
00:24:01.039 --> 00:24:03.519
They always say carb up, even like the night before
500
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:06.640
in the mornings, but I like to keep a light
501
00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:09.279
for lunch because shoot, you're gonna be running a lot,
502
00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.200
it might be hot, probably gonna throw that up, yeah, right,
503
00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:15.440
So I try. I try and get like a smoothie,
504
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:17.359
a good little breakfast with a decent amount of carb.
505
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:18.920
Of the night before, I make sure I have a
506
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:22.519
nice little dinner, and then leading up whether the games
507
00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:24.519
at the games at night, I have a good lunch
508
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:28.279
and have some snacks right before the game, and then
509
00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:31.440
obviously after the game. I mean good, but I think
510
00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:34.559
it's very important to obviously stay hydrated for sure, that's one.
511
00:24:34.839 --> 00:24:37.519
But next thing is like don't eat too too much
512
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.440
because you got your work done throughout throughout the weekend
513
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:43.599
the day before, So sometimes you even your game. You
514
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.440
may be the first, the first game. Even in college,
515
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:48.799
Like we played at eleven o'clock Central time, so we
516
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:50.359
had to eat breakfast at like six.
517
00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.559
Yeah, because central time. We're Eastern time, so that would
518
00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:55.119
be twelve.
519
00:24:54.759 --> 00:24:56.960
Yeah, because the game started at twelve eastern and we
520
00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:58.559
have to be up at we have to be eating
521
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:00.519
at like seven. We have to be at the stadium
522
00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:04.599
by like nine thirty ten. So you eat, go back upstairs,
523
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:07.960
change round the road going to the stadium. Right, So
524
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.000
you don't want to eat too much of breakfast. You
525
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:12.680
got to make sure, like, yeah, you have your you
526
00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:15.519
have like some eggs, and I don't eat I don't
527
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:17.599
eat beef or any or pork or any of that.
528
00:25:17.640 --> 00:25:19.519
So I just have my my turkey bacon. I have
529
00:25:19.559 --> 00:25:22.720
like a nice breakfast potatoes, and then I have a
530
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:23.440
bunch of fruits.
531
00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:25.039
I have a smoothie.
532
00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:27.519
So majority of time I'm having like a lot of
533
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.240
fruits and uh and and and at the end at night,
534
00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:32.119
you know, night before the game, I have like a
535
00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:37.480
nice pasta and hydrate get raid. They at school we
536
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:39.839
had power ade, but I just I have water. I
537
00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.119
just like drinking water, right though, I hear you.
538
00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:44.039
Yeah, I can't have too much sugar in the system,
539
00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:44.200
you know.
540
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.279
Yeah, sometimes it's good though, you need it because for
541
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:50.200
the game, right the sugars. Yeah, So that's why a
542
00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:53.839
lot of guys they they they say Marshallo had the
543
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:57.240
skills like you know, you get as sweet keepers energy up.
544
00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.640
But although he's probably probably high to I don't know, yeah.
545
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:05.839
You know, you never know what's going on, right, No,
546
00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:06.640
you never know.
547
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:07.079
You know.
548
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.359
We speak about over here in Canada because I feel
549
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:14.559
like we see sports, we see oh u A, we
550
00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:19.440
see CFL, and you hear one side say, oh the CFL.
551
00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.160
Is this the next I'd say they prefer the NFL.
552
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:28.119
You've played both. What would you say is the most
553
00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:32.119
challenging Was it the NFL? Was it the CFL? With
554
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:35.319
what you hear, what you hear the audience be speaking
555
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:37.279
about and the viewership and things like that.
556
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:42.279
In terms of talent, yes, I think obviously the NFL
557
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.480
has great talent, but the CFL does too, and a
558
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:47.920
lot of people don't know although it is the CFL.
559
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.000
A lot of those guys that are on CFL teams
560
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:52.079
played in the NFL.
561
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:59.240
Thank you, Doug Flutie. Yeah, Cameron Cameron Wake Yeah right,
562
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:06.960
yeah to the CFL, like so many guys, so many,
563
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:09.640
not even just myself or even if they had a
564
00:27:09.680 --> 00:27:13.759
cup of tea, but either way, you know, when it
565
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:16.920
comes to these leagues, like I wouldn't say it's luck,
566
00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.359
but yes, and it's there.
567
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:22.799
It is talent, but it's it's also sometimes you just
568
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:26.440
it's just a numbers game. You might not you might
569
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.839
have the talent, but we might not need ten receivers
570
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.319
on the team. We actually can only keep eight because
571
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:36.000
the other two we need on defense. So it's it's
572
00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:37.960
really a numbers games. There's only a certain amount of
573
00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:39.480
players you can have on a team. In the NFL
574
00:27:39.559 --> 00:27:41.640
is a fifty three man roster, and then you have
575
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.880
ten guys on practice squad. If my quarterback gets hurt
576
00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.480
and he's out for the season, I need another quarterback.
577
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.680
But then now I gotta I probably have to release
578
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:53.240
somebody if I want to keep my quarterback on a roster.
579
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:55.759
So it's like we might have to let you go
580
00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:01.160
because on defense, we might need an extra player because
581
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:03.880
this person's deal dealing with a hamstring and it might
582
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:05.480
go out and we don't know when when it's going
583
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.960
to go out. We need somebody that's that that that
584
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:11.400
we can have as a backup. Or that's why we
585
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.000
might sign a guy on practice squad. We might sign
586
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:17.680
more corners than we do receivers because we got two
587
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:20.559
guys on defense that are in their mid thirties and
588
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:22.920
they're kind of old. You just they need more, they
589
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:26.559
need they need some rest. So we got to rotate them.
590
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.880
So it might not you might be cut from a
591
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:35.079
team not because you're not good, but because that team
592
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:37.960
may not need you at that at that time. Right,
593
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.720
So when it comes to the CFL, it one, it's
594
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:44.039
the same thing, but that one guy is like, you know,
595
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:45.279
I just want to play football.
596
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.279
I don't want to be a backup. I don't want
597
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.559
to you know. Or I can go.
598
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:52.160
I can go, I can go here and get paid
599
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.400
X amount and it's decent money. I'll just go over here.
600
00:28:55.519 --> 00:28:57.319
Although I play in the NFL, like there's a lot
601
00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.519
of guys just they end up. Some guys lead because
602
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.480
they want to play. Some guys leave because they got hurt.
603
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.119
And now you're on that you're on that that blacklist
604
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.720
where it's like, okay, he's a he's injury prone. So
605
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.319
that's another thing, but then you end up killing in
606
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:09.839
the CFL.
607
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:10.200
Ye.
608
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:13.920
So there's so many guys that I've had teammates that
609
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:16.720
I played with in the NFL that became teammates in
610
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:18.240
the CFL. I was like, oh, I played with him
611
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:21.720
and so and so wi. Yeah, it happens all the time.
612
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:27.640
The talent is there, and but obviously you have your
613
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.519
Tom Brady's of the world and whatever the case may be.
614
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:36.720
But everything else, everybody else in like the middle, it's
615
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.839
kind of like they can play anywhere the NFL, CFL,
616
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.119
some guys, you know, but the talent, the talents is
617
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.799
great on both sides. Everybody always thinks like, oh CFO
618
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.559
is just yeah, probably get paid a little less, but
619
00:29:49.960 --> 00:29:51.279
talent's there.
620
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.440
The one thing that's not there is the weather difference though, yes,
621
00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:57.680
let's talk about that.
622
00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.720
Yeah, the weather is is different.
623
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:05.799
Yeah, because there's we have no indoor other than BC
624
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:11.119
and but yeah, it's a nice stadium, but they're also
625
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:13.759
out west so they could be outside, right. But other
626
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:19.839
than that, playing in Winnipeg in November, that Saskatchewan's freezing,
627
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.240
it's so cold, like it was a different type of cold.
628
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:30.799
Like I was like, yo, like there's one of my
629
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:36.200
teammates actually, like it's not icy hot, but it's something
630
00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.279
that like when you put on injuries, it heats, it
631
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:41.400
heats up. But we would rub that on our bodies
632
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.880
so that when we sweat it starts burning. But when
633
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:50.279
you're outside and it's cold, like i've heard, actually actually warm,
634
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.480
But when you get back inside and you're in some
635
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.559
you're in like heat. Oh your skin is boiling.
636
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.839
So speak to this because I've always thought when you're
637
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.400
in that frigid temperature, and I understand you have the
638
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:07.799
jackets on the sideline, Yeah, how does the bodies the
639
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.640
body heat is changing? Do you all like is there
640
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:12.799
like do you guys fight against a lot of sickness
641
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:13.440
and stuff like that?
642
00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:17.119
No, No, not really, I think about it.
643
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:19.200
I don't think I was ever like sick because we've
644
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:21.319
been outside, I guess doing it for so long, right,
645
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:23.799
But there's a there's heaters on the sideline as well.
646
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.359
We have handwarmers and in those hand warners we have
647
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.720
like heat packs as well, so it keeps our hands warm.
648
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:33.079
And then in some on some teams, depending on who
649
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:35.039
you play for, I had we had it in college,
650
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:37.400
but we had heated benches too. So when you when
651
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.279
guys are sitting on if you see in the NFL
652
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.400
they obviously got more money, they can do it on
653
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.240
every team. But when it's cold out, you see guys
654
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.119
put their helmet on this thing. It's kind of like
655
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.519
maybe shaped like this, not like a mic. There's heat
656
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:50.039
going in there.
657
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:52.160
Yeah. I never knew this as much as the years
658
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:52.960
I've been watching sports.
659
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:54.960
Never when they put their helmet on there, there's also
660
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.640
a heater on there. And then when they're sitting on
661
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:58.359
the bench, the bench it's not like I don't know
662
00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.200
if you notice, but usually a bench like silver. Yeah,
663
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:04.480
but they're sitting on something else it's white, but underneath
664
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:06.720
its heat. So when they're sitting on the bench with
665
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.599
their jackets, it's like you're literally just sitting in heats here.
666
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:12.880
Muscles are staying warm, and you're you're you're not just freezing.
667
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:13.240
On the sideline.
668
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:13.960
Damn.
669
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:14.640
Yeah.
670
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:16.440
See, I always thought you'll just put the jackets on.
671
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:18.599
It's like, yo, fight it off.
672
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:22.440
Yeah, it helps because heats coming from from the bench
673
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.480
and you're keeping it in here too, or if you're
674
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:26.759
standing by the heater and the heats blowing, you can
675
00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:28.480
kind of keep it in your jacket. That's why guys
676
00:32:28.519 --> 00:32:31.119
are standing by the heater like that, and the heats
677
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:34.000
just smart all in that jacket. Yeah, so that's how
678
00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:36.599
guys kind of stay stay a little warm on the
679
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.000
on the sideline because.
680
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:39.680
You played, so you have played in some worse conditions
681
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:41.160
like complete snowfall.
682
00:32:41.400 --> 00:32:44.119
Yeah, snow rain as long as you as long as
683
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.000
there's no lightning. Yeah, you're playing freezing rain.
684
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.799
Yeah, it's crazy, so speak Okay, so let's have fun
685
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:54.559
with this now when it's snow outside them cleats because
686
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.000
you guys got to go out there and test the
687
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.279
turf for the field. Do y'all be switching up your
688
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:00.440
cleats and whatnot.
689
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.319
Yeah, sometimes they'll tell us like, hey, it's going to
690
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.720
be snow out there, you're gonna have to wear you know,
691
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.160
your cleats with with with with longer spikes because it's
692
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.319
gonna be ice. So they definitely they definitely warn us
693
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.079
for sure those things are yeah, because you'll be slipping.
694
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:20.000
I never really switched my cleats too too much. I
695
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:21.839
just loved what I had and I was so used
696
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:23.680
to it, and I hate it wearing like studied cleats.
697
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:25.559
I like wearing the ones that were already molded in there,
698
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:29.279
and but yeah, it was just I just was like
699
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:32.720
if I slip, I slipped. Yeah, but I was I've
700
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:34.319
been pretty good when it came to it came to
701
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:36.160
a lot of guys like, no, I'm switching my cleats.
702
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:40.240
I was like, I'm not. I'm I'm chilling. I'm chilling, man.
703
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:43.400
I feel you speak to I want to have some fun,
704
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.559
even more fun here. Speak to the trash tack on
705
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.119
the field, man. But I'm pretty sure when you line
706
00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:54.279
up against some of them boys they chatting. Yeah, when
707
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:58.119
you hear that defender chatting, what's the first thing you do?
708
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.559
Honestly, I just laugh. I don't really say. I just
709
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:01.480
know what they're trying to do.
710
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:02.279
I can see that.
711
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.359
So for me, it was just unless they say something disrespectful,
712
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.159
I'll say something back. But for the most part, I
713
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:11.239
would just I would just talk my own ship like
714
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.199
in my head and just say whatever. But like I would,
715
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.800
I would definitely say something, but I don't I'm not
716
00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:21.440
going back and forth. Like if they say I'll be like, yeah, okay, okay,
717
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:22.599
we'll see next play.
718
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.679
All right, next play, yeah, and touchdown.
719
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:26.719
But then if I score, then I'm coming back. I'm
720
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:27.719
looking at you like what's up.
721
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:30.039
Yeah, so I got one hundred and fifty yards on you.
722
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:33.519
Yeah, it's like I was like, bro, like you're not
723
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.119
goody good. It's crazy.
724
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:38.840
Like but if you say that, like obviously you have
725
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.360
to say something back, right, you're trash. You're trash too,
726
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:43.480
Like you haven't done nothing to day, you haven't done
727
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.119
ship right, you know, so it's you gotta I wasn't
728
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.239
really a trash talker unless somebody were talking to me.
729
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:51.800
But like, I never had too many guys really because
730
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.960
they know they know some guys know who they can
731
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.079
talk to and get a reaction out of. Like for
732
00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.559
the most part, when guys tried it wasn't really they
733
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.800
may do that for me because I think I get tired, like, yeah,
734
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:04.280
I'm wasting energy. Yeah.
735
00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.000
I think what a lot of the fans see it
736
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.800
on TV is they see the trash talk, they see
737
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.360
the big cream. You may see it in like NFL
738
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.000
films and stuff, But then everybody's shaking hands at the
739
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.519
end of the game. Yeah, because the companionship and the
740
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:18.679
sportsmanship and things like that. Yeah, And I say it
741
00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:20.400
to a lot of folks, it's like you gotta understand it.
742
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:23.199
That's within the moment. It's it within the moment. You're
743
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.239
you're all fighting for one thing and it's a win
744
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.079
to hopefully get to the playoffs. Then get you do
745
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:32.039
a championship, because what you want, you want the championship, right.
746
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:35.000
Not everybody's grateful to get to the championship. Some people
747
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:38.239
can only get to historically at playoffs. That's it, you know.
748
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:39.960
And you see it with all different type of sports
749
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:43.239
and things like that, so you get it. Sometimes it's like, Yo,
750
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:47.199
this man's just talking and basketball terminology. I's gonna drop
751
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:50.079
thirty thirty on your head, maybe forty, yeah, fifty, go
752
00:35:50.159 --> 00:35:51.239
look on them, you know what I mean?
753
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:52.039
Yeah, exactly.
754
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.800
Some of these guys, they they talk to get themselves going.
755
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.280
It's not even really about you. They just need it
756
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.480
for themselves, right. So that's why I said, you can't
757
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:03.440
really take that stuff to hight And when you say
758
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:04.760
something back, it's like that's what they needed.
759
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.280
I'm going to give you what you want. You know,
760
00:36:09.400 --> 00:36:09.840
I'm good.
761
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:17.280
Feel it now you've met Like football's over now, is
762
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.000
there ever a part of you to want to get
763
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.119
back into the game from some way, like maybe as
764
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.000
a coach player coach.
765
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:30.960
I think what I do now makes me love what
766
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.960
I do because I'm still able to be in the sport.
767
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.440
So as as as I work in business as like
768
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:41.719
an advisor, I can still advise the athletes, I can
769
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.639
guide them, whether it's during the season or even post sport.
770
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.320
So I take a lot of pride in like being
771
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:54.199
like the connector and helping people transition now and but
772
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:58.679
in terms of actually coaching football, not really. It's still
773
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:01.000
fairly early. So maybe I'm I get that itch maybe
774
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.559
the next few years. As of right now, I feel
775
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.320
pretty good where I'm at. Do I miss Do I
776
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:06.960
miss the game?
777
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:09.000
Yeah? A little bit, I definitely do.
778
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:12.639
But I know that I'm also thirty two and I
779
00:37:12.760 --> 00:37:17.320
don't have much more else then there's now there's twenty
780
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:20.440
two year olds that are here to take your spot too,
781
00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:23.880
So you got to be just as fast, just as strong,
782
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:26.679
just as whatever. Can I do it for another probably
783
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.639
a little bit, But the reality is as a receiver,
784
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:30.199
no one's gonna want a forty year old.
785
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:33.920
You know, So I don't say that Tom Brady.
786
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.320
Now, Hey, both quarterbacks a little bit different obviously, and
787
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.000
there's a lot of four years now, Aaron Rodgers is
788
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:40.719
one of the if I think he's the oldest in
789
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:45.800
the league now, and but yeah, I think with you,
790
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:48.239
when you get older, they're just trying to find the
791
00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:53.119
younger guy. You know, once you cross thirty, they're still
792
00:37:53.159 --> 00:37:54.960
looking for somebody else they look for sure.
793
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:57.480
I feel you. So when you look at the game now,
794
00:37:57.719 --> 00:38:01.000
and if you've ever been to any of the games,
795
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:05.360
if either at the college, CFL, NFL level in your
796
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:10.039
years of playing, when you look at one player who
797
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:14.280
stands out the most to you and why pastor present?
798
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:22.679
And for me, there's a hand a hand a handful
799
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:30.199
of guys. When I think about it, does a matter
800
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:30.840
of sport.
801
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.400
Right, football, That's what we're here to talk about.
802
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:35.280
Football.
803
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:39.440
I like, I like seeing guys do stuff on the field,
804
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:42.679
but also like have a huge impact off the field.
805
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:46.159
So when I think about guys like that, I think
806
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.000
about like Larry Fitzgerald, ah, right, Like he's a guy
807
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.920
that great receiver, absolutely not a lot of stuff off
808
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:57.000
the field that is, like you know in the news
809
00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:59.800
and now he's doing a lot of great business stuff.
810
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.719
I think he's part owner of one of those Arizona teams,
811
00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:05.920
like the Suns and some some other maybe minor league
812
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:10.559
teams as well, and the type of person he is too.
813
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:11.880
So there's guys like that.
814
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.440
And of course the flashy guys I like there you know,
815
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:17.920
your Odell Beckhams of the world that you know, they're
816
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.960
just they're just that guy, whether they're playing or not.
817
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.760
So those those are two guys for sure. And then
818
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:27.800
and then I can't go wrong with like guys like
819
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.400
Tom Brady, you know, like the way he carries hisself
820
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.480
as a as a pro on and off the field.
821
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.960
And now he's on on on on broadcasting doing his thing,
822
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.880
and he's got a lot of business ventures himself that
823
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:43.679
he's dabbling into and doing more speaking and getting into
824
00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.400
different different avenues, which is pretty dope to see.
825
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:48.840
It's good and not to not to come in hot.
826
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:51.159
It's it's good to see guys like Brady because you
827
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.039
know what, I would loved it because one of my
828
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:56.159
favorite quarterbacks of all time. He's the goat. There's nothing
829
00:39:56.159 --> 00:40:00.440
comes close some guys. There's one in Kansas City right now.
830
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.679
He's flirting with it, he's playing with it, you know
831
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:05.559
what I mean. But it's to get into the mind
832
00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.800
of Brady now because we he wasn't really the biggest
833
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:12.960
speaker in New England. He would do obviously your your
834
00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:17.119
free game and your post game ship cool. But now
835
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:18.800
you get to hear him for like an hour or
836
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.960
two in a podcast setting. And I just seen him recently.
837
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.519
He went on some some two guys' podcast, which I'm like, Okay,
838
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:28.199
this is we're gonna get some Tom Brady now sit
839
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:33.920
down conversation because you want to hear that mindset.
840
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:35.360
The mindset, Yeah, you know what I mean.
841
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.639
Yeah, he carried himself so so well, like in the
842
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:42.280
facility in terms of like how he approached the game
843
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:47.840
and the times he was there and the just like the.
844
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:49.519
Stories that you hear how serious he is.
845
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:53.360
And obviously with Belichick being there in New England, obviously
846
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.280
it's been they couldn't be touched for a very long
847
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:01.400
time about the hell that was the that was that
848
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:06.440
was very very, very very strict and that's how you win, right.
849
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:08.280
So I know he applies that to life or the
850
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:10.320
way he wakes up in the morning and attacks today.
851
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.320
It's it's all relatable when it comes to like your
852
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.920
sport and how you're transitioning out in life too.
853
00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:20.280
Who is your NFL team. Do you have one favorite favorite.
854
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.400
Man at the time, Like I used to, I used
855
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.000
to be a very big Cam Newton fan.
856
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:26.639
I still I still like him. I was.
857
00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.320
I followed him when he was like at Auburn and
858
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.239
when the Heisman, and then he ended up going to
859
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:35.559
the Panthers, and I was like, yo, I like the Panthers.
860
00:41:35.559 --> 00:41:38.440
I wanted to live in Charlotte, like I. I even
861
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:40.840
went there to visit on my love I love the city.
862
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:44.280
But yeah, I would say it was it was. It
863
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.360
was Cam Newton and the Panthers for a little bit
864
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:49.480
growing up. But then as I got older and then
865
00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.280
I end up playing. I don't really have a favorite
866
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:56.199
team now. I just love just as a fan watching.
867
00:41:56.239 --> 00:42:00.119
I don't necessarily have like one team, but yeah, I
868
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.119
like to I like to watch like friends and guys
869
00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:04.880
that I know that are still playing play, so I
870
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:07.880
don't even think about like who the team is. I
871
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.519
think about which players playing that I know.
872
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:14.199
That can now. Man, is that when we get older, Yeah,
873
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:17.360
we have our core fans fandom to a team like
874
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:20.679
I'm New England right and fun fact, I'll tell you this,
875
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:23.920
I was actually Tampa Bay at one point in time. Right.
876
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.159
So that was Tampa Bay back and the Dungee days.
877
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:29.199
Growing up watching that team play and when they won
878
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:31.000
the Super Bowl was good. And then they did some
879
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:32.760
moves which I was like, I can't be a fan
880
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.880
of this anymore. Yeah, and then you just saw Brady.
881
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.840
So I'm like, I stuck with New England ever since then,
882
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.360
you know what I mean. So with that said, now
883
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:46.480
you get so much attraction to players now and you
884
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:50.400
see like the mindset and they're playing ability like I
885
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.840
rate Patrick Mahomes and Kelsey and I know there's on
886
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:56.320
other side of folks that dislike those guys because they're
887
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:58.519
all they're doing is winning. Well, when you have a
888
00:42:58.599 --> 00:43:01.119
right system, right talent, what do you think is going
889
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.239
to happen? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's just
890
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.000
like you know, yeah, you want to see different teams
891
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:09.599
maybe win a championship, but you got to model to
892
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:11.960
what's going on right now, you know what I mean.
893
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:14.440
And there's certain systems, it doesn't matter what sports you're
894
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.440
looking at. They have the system set in place and
895
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:19.960
then you put the talent. Yep, look at I'll give
896
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:22.400
you a brief example. Look at the San Antonio Spurs
897
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.719
when Biyama if I said that, righty, Yeah, he wouldn't.
898
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:31.159
I don't think he would excel on any other end
899
00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:33.840
of the team or system because you look at san
900
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:37.719
Antonio Popovich, that's a system you put him in there.
901
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:39.760
He's mister fundamental, y'all. Look what you have?
902
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:40.760
Yeah, exactly.
903
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:43.239
I think once that's in anything, you have a system
904
00:43:43.239 --> 00:43:45.559
that people can follow their success in there.
905
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:46.039
Right.
906
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:47.840
If you have no system, everybody's kind of doing their
907
00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.480
own thing, then that's not how. That's not how how
908
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.159
you can be successful within that team or business.
909
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:56.320
For sure, speak to your system now because you spoke
910
00:43:56.320 --> 00:44:00.960
about business and you're helping other I guess other players.
911
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.000
Athletes, anybody. Really.
912
00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.159
I like it like more more so, like because I
913
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.400
do insurance and investments, So helping guys put their money
914
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:09.760
and somebody's right in the right places where they want
915
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:12.480
to have investment opportunities, where they want to get into
916
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:13.920
other business ventures.
917
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:14.440
I want to.
918
00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:16.920
I look at myself as that being that guy that
919
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.079
can put them in the right direction. So yeah, that's
920
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.159
kind of like a life business advisor in a sense.
921
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:24.840
But you know you're now you're speaking to because when
922
00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.320
you sign these monster contracts. Yeah, like when you start
923
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.840
seeing so many dollars and zeros playing with each other,
924
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:34.480
where do you put that money if you don't have
925
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:37.440
the right people around you? Just like what can I
926
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.639
buy right off season? You're like, well, I can go
927
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:42.400
to the club with the boys. Yep, can do this,
928
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.159
take this trip. You know you've late in your life.
929
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:47.000
I can buy that back. I can do all of this.
930
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:50.320
By the time you look at it halfway through your season.
931
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:53.400
If you have a twenty five million dollar contract, yeah,
932
00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:55.480
that's all going to add up. You know what.
933
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.559
No one even takes ano account of taxes, right, so
934
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:01.840
it's like, oh, I got S five million, Now you're
935
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.320
at seventeen whatever state you're in, depending on your state,
936
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:06.239
right exactly.
937
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:09.239
So what made you really want to deep dive into
938
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:10.920
that to help that help those people?
939
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:17.559
I just so for me, it was always I wanted
940
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:20.320
to go to NFL. I wanted to go to Division
941
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.000
one or whatever the case may be. And I had
942
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.800
a great circle around me to guide me into the
943
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.440
right direction. I had guys I always hung out with,
944
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.880
like older guys that were that were that was training,
945
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:33.760
that were better than me, stronger than me. So I
946
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:37.559
always like had a path and with a lot of guidance,
947
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:41.840
right and going into or coming out of football, I
948
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:45.039
know there's guys that don't have the guidance, and I
949
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:48.360
saw the value in my transition where now I was like, man,
950
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:51.360
I want to be able to pay that forward because
951
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:54.519
I know how it felt to get that support and
952
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:58.679
transitioning out, it's it's a little bit it's a little
953
00:45:58.679 --> 00:46:00.960
bit more promising. See, if you're good at a sport,
954
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:03.039
people are gonna want to help you. But once you
955
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.239
what happens is when you when you stop playing, you
956
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:09.440
start realizing like, man, like the people actually care about
957
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.280
me because you're not playing now, So now you don't
958
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:16.519
have much to offer, right, And that's just the reality
959
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:19.039
of it, right, Like you're you're you're the best at
960
00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:21.119
this and now you swear all these touched on everybody
961
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.599
knows you. Now you're done playing, it's like I don't
962
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:25.480
we're not really friends anymore because he's in. That's where
963
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.039
that that part of life gets rough for the athletes,
964
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:31.840
and if you don't have that type of support that
965
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:33.559
can put you in that right direction to keep that
966
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:38.360
confidence up within yourself, Like things can get get pretty nasty,
967
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:43.039
like emotionally mentally when the game is done. So that's
968
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.239
what kind of got me into really trying to be
969
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.519
around the and the reality is that I'm also transitioning,
970
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:50.760
but I'm realizing that we all are.
971
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:52.960
It's not just the athletes.
972
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:55.880
Obviously, it hits us a little bit harder because you know,
973
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:57.880
we're playing a sport that've been playing our whole life
974
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:00.400
that we love and that's the only thing that we're
975
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:03.079
going to be doing for the for forever until it
976
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.360
ends right and then when it ends, it's like damn,
977
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.119
like who am I? So keep yourself around people that
978
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:11.519
are going through the same thing, because.
979
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.679
What you're speaking to is like support systems, and that's
980
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.559
thinking anything you know what I mean. Like you're getting
981
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:20.840
into all the content creation game and that's its own
982
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.320
beast football. Playing at that level, you're going to have
983
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.159
folks that are going to rock with you. And obviously
984
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.480
folks are whatever you know what I mean, And that
985
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:33.360
shouldn't be the mentality that we should have. But it
986
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.519
even happens in content creation. Oh, you have family, you
987
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:38.960
have friends that you once grew up with, but as
988
00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:41.599
you're making a separation doing something different from the norm,
989
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:44.239
folks don't want it. I don't know if it's like
990
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.920
some jealousy. It is jealousy, but it's like some hidden
991
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:52.199
resentment for whatever reason. And it's like, Yo, do you
992
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:54.719
understand how much better we would be if we also
993
00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.039
just support each other? Yea much better? Right? If you
994
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.599
have like you look at it from your core inner
995
00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:03.800
group of people. This is some value when you give feedblare,
996
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:08.280
so you have twenty of your solid people in your life,
997
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.360
could be family, man members, friends, acquaintances, close knit type people.
998
00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:16.280
If you launch a product and all twenty of those
999
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:19.159
people bought that, what does that now do for your business?
1000
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:24.199
It built right? Or highlight that episode or share that
1001
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.280
episode to your community. Yeah, instead of holding back, Oh
1002
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:32.559
well Rory released that podcast. Oh he went to the
1003
00:48:32.639 --> 00:48:33.800
league and he did this, and this is where you
1004
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:34.719
see people switch up.
1005
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:36.000
I said, oh, yeah, you.
1006
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:37.840
Know what I mean, because it's like the same people
1007
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:38.960
that you thought you were going to get to the
1008
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.280
dance with you don't leave with. You know what I mean?
1009
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:42.119
No one.
1010
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:48.440
I think I realized that myself getting into the same space, right,
1011
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:54.559
and it's different. And you actually you get feedback from
1012
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:56.280
the people that you don't know. You get the positive
1013
00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:57.880
feedback from the people that you don't know, and like
1014
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.559
the people that you do know that that say that
1015
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:04.719
they support you, they actually haven't, which is okay, But
1016
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:06.880
you start seeing the difference.
1017
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:07.639
Between the type of people.
1018
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.960
Right, So when you when you get into when you
1019
00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:14.159
get into different spaces and you're doing something outside the norm,
1020
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:18.599
I think it's like important to really just like, if
1021
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:20.239
it makes you happy, man, just do it.
1022
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:24.360
Yeah, you know, like if you say that, and and.
1023
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.800
We care so much about our friends validation rather than
1024
00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:33.440
like if the people on the outside are doing that
1025
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.800
giving you support, Like, I think that that's pretty dope
1026
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.000
because they don't even know you, so it's kind of
1027
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.480
like their first impression of you, and it's a positive thing.
1028
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.639
So when you when you get that from somebody, I
1029
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.599
think it's I think it's definitely more become more valuable
1030
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:50.960
for you.
1031
00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:54.920
Absolutely. You know, life, life is a very interesting trip.
1032
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.360
I remember I was that up in Toronto. What was
1033
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:02.719
it again, Oh my goodness. It was like an outdoor festival.
1034
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:05.880
Group of people met up and this girl's like, oh
1035
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:07.880
what do you do? She wasn't trying to get on me,
1036
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.159
hit on me, And it's just networking. We're just chatting. Yeah,
1037
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:11.920
I said, I got a podcast. She's like, well, how
1038
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:13.400
long you've been doing that for? I told her at
1039
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:16.440
the time it would have been eight years, because once
1040
00:50:16.480 --> 00:50:19.679
this comes out, it's nine years doing this, right, And
1041
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:22.440
she's like, oh, you missed your spot. I was like,
1042
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.239
wait what, I didn't get mad. I was like, what
1043
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:27.880
do you mean? She goes, well, and she instantly put
1044
00:50:28.360 --> 00:50:32.599
Alex Cooper into the conversation, call her daddy podcast. Look
1045
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.440
at her. She's got a marketing team, She's got this, this,
1046
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:37.920
and sis. It's like, okay, cool. So she goes, you
1047
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:40.280
missed your blessing, you missed your calling. Why are you
1048
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:43.800
still doing it? Was like, that's fine because I took
1049
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:46.000
that and has just put it as another battery that said,
1050
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:49.119
is what you all don't realize is that Alx Scooper
1051
00:50:49.239 --> 00:50:51.920
also has a team behind her. He's also being pushed
1052
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.559
by like a system. She has the system behind her.
1053
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:57.679
If you had the system and I had the system
1054
00:50:57.679 --> 00:50:59.000
behind us, what do you think is gonna happen?
1055
00:50:59.159 --> 00:50:59.360
Same?
1056
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:01.440
You know what I mean? We're going to be out
1057
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:03.519
there lifestyles of the rich and famous. We're going to
1058
00:51:03.519 --> 00:51:05.079
get the Cardi B's of the world. We're gonna get
1059
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:08.360
everybody on our podcast, but it takes a little bit
1060
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:11.239
of time. And that's what people don't realize. You gotta
1061
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:13.400
go through the wraps, you know what I mean. And
1062
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:15.760
that's why I love seeing those clips that you do
1063
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:18.119
on your podcast. I want you to play your podcast.
1064
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:21.559
Your podcast is actually sick. Love it. Car ride, It's
1065
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:24.840
like it's innovation. You're in a car, you're chatting. It's like,
1066
00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:27.440
who do you want to not want to do that?
1067
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.079
Sometimes you don't have to be in a studio. You're
1068
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.760
just driving. And that's I believe you're that's your dashboard computer.
1069
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.800
Yeah, it's a dash cam, the dash cam. Yeah okay, yeah, yeah,
1070
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:41.519
So I have like a like a basic goal bro. Okay,
1071
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:44.719
yeah okay. And so is that I feel like you
1072
00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:48.239
have a computer screen going to no. I thought that
1073
00:51:48.280 --> 00:51:51.639
was a computer screen. Interesting, it's just a camera. It's
1074
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:55.039
the camera, the camera chopping up and you know, when
1075
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.880
you think about it, like the best conversations, like when
1076
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.519
when you're in the car, I think about as long drives,
1077
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:03.280
you're not listening to music, you're calling a friend now
1078
00:52:03.320 --> 00:52:06.320
you remember, and just chopping it up for an hour.
1079
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:07.880
If you have a three hour ride, you might chop
1080
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:11.559
it for three hours straight, right, So, or you you're
1081
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:13.280
picking up a friend and you guys are catching up
1082
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:16.400
and it's like, man, like this is something that you
1083
00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:18.440
know you can just capture and we're just talking about life.
1084
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:22.440
We're talking about everything. So it and it's it's a
1085
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:26.039
little bits. It's intimate because like you're you're in there
1086
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:28.440
and like you kind of sit down, you just kind
1087
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:32.440
of there's scenery, the things, things change, right, So I
1088
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:33.039
think it's dope.
1089
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:34.800
I've been having a lot of fun with it.
1090
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:39.000
I've been able to go to different different cities and
1091
00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.079
be able to talk to a lot of guys that
1092
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:44.519
that I know that I got to meet over the
1093
00:52:44.599 --> 00:52:47.440
years and just reconnect with them for one, which is huge,
1094
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:49.960
but two gets get to get to know what they're
1095
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:52.159
doing now and life after the league, life after the
1096
00:52:52.239 --> 00:52:53.159
league exactly.
1097
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:56.199
It's so needed and necessary because I think those are
1098
00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.639
the stories that us as fans want to see from
1099
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:04.480
our our favorite athlete. Yes, like watching Michael Jordan last
1100
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:07.320
week sit on NBC and talk what he was talking about,
1101
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.920
giving his a little breakdown. I was like, man, growing
1102
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:13.440
up watching Jordan, It's so good to see him speak,
1103
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:15.320
you know what I mean. And I'm like, can we
1104
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:19.000
put more microphones in this man's face? Yeah, because we
1105
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:19.519
want to hear.
1106
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:23.400
Jordan talk even when we see him like oh, there's
1107
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:25.840
clips just everybody taking pictures of Jordan and never really
1108
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.840
hear him talk. Right, But now he's over there sitting
1109
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.000
down able to have conversation, and you're like, man, he's
1110
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:34.559
actually a cool guy. He's actually pretty smart. He's actually
1111
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:36.400
like we know of all with all this suff and
1112
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:39.400
obviously he's smart. But now you get to hear him speak.
1113
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:42.800
Those those those those speak that's the speaks volumes for you.
1114
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:44.840
Before we get out of here, I'm gonna I'm gonna
1115
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:45.320
put you on.
1116
00:53:45.239 --> 00:53:46.400
The spot here all right.
1117
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:50.400
If there's one person that you could say talk with
1118
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:56.679
from the league, who would it be? And why mm hmmm?
1119
00:53:58.159 --> 00:53:59.280
I would say Jerry Rice.
1120
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:03.039
Hey, okay, okay.
1121
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:05.719
Yeah, because it's funny. I got to meet him. He
1122
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:10.280
obviously doesn't remember this. I obviously he came to Toronto
1123
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:15.039
and I got a call from somebody saying like, hey,
1124
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:16.519
j Rice is in town. Do you want to come
1125
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.840
to NFL Canada and meet him? I was like, hell yeah,
1126
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.559
So got to meet him talk to him, and like
1127
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:25.719
that moment was like so big for me because like
1128
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:27.519
I've seen it with my own eyes, and he talked
1129
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:30.320
about the hard work or whatever nice ever since that day,
1130
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.280
like for me, I just knew, like, yeah, I want
1131
00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.440
to be there, like what I have to do, and
1132
00:54:35.480 --> 00:54:39.320
like his talking about you know, how many reps he did,
1133
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:42.239
how many footballs he caught, you know all he was
1134
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.400
catching bricks and all the other stuff. So I was like, shoot,
1135
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.320
should I go and start trying to catch bricks?
1136
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:47.920
Should I? You know what I mean?
1137
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:51.519
And like I said, he doesn't remember, but that was
1138
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:53.039
like a very big moment for me. So to be
1139
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:56.280
able to show him that picture and be like, man,
1140
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.639
this like picture really changed my life and then obviously
1141
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:01.039
be able to sit down with him. Mm hmm, like
1142
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.320
that would be amazing.
1143
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:05.440
Full circle What do you say that, because it's about
1144
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:09.840
to be a full circle moment. So my parents threw
1145
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:14.639
a surprise birthday party for me, okay, and a couple
1146
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:18.960
of my dad's friends came, and the one particular gentleman,
1147
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:23.960
his name is Marshall, went to the same school as
1148
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:26.920
Jerry Rice. And when he said, he's like, oh, I
1149
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:29.159
went to you know, play ball down and wherever you
1150
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.760
play ball down at? And I said, wait, didn't Jerry
1151
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.559
not go to that school? And he goes, yeah, and
1152
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:36.280
straight up said to me was man, Jerry was a
1153
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:38.880
baller even from when when he was playing with him.
1154
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:41.840
He goes, Man, that man took the game serious. So
1155
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:44.199
it's funny how we're in sync. How you said that,
1156
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.000
And I want to be to prove I'm proving a
1157
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:49.320
point here. That's not scripted. What I just said, that's
1158
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.960
not scripted. But I'm just telling you it's just the
1159
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.320
ebbs and flows because there's people that impact us on
1160
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:56.920
our journey.
1161
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.480
You know, yeah, absolutely, for sure.
1162
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:04.239
For sure, my guy, plug the podcast where everybody can
1163
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:06.360
check you out. I appreciate the fuck out of you
1164
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:07.400
coming on the show.
1165
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:08.000
I appreciate it.
1166
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.239
Because it's like I wanted to get into the NFL
1167
00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:11.519
mind a little bit, you know what I mean.
1168
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:12.679
I appreciate that that.
1169
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:14.480
But yeah, man, go ahead plug your podcast.
1170
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:16.880
What you got coming up, Well, it's the front Seat Pod.
1171
00:56:17.719 --> 00:56:20.360
I got my my YouTube channels called the Front Seat Network.
1172
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:22.480
So I'll be doing other things other than just the pod.
1173
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:27.559
I'll be broadcasting a tailgate experience. I'll be doing my training,
1174
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.800
my day to day how that kind of looks, whether
1175
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:34.360
it's like me on the podcast life or just me
1176
00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:36.800
in my in my fitness journey and my business journey
1177
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:37.159
as well.
1178
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:39.000
So that's that's what that is.
1179
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:41.800
You can find it on Front Seat Pod podcast on
1180
00:56:41.920 --> 00:56:45.079
Instagram and Front Seat Network on YouTube.
1181
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:48.360
Man, And I'm gonna tell you he's got some interesting guests.
1182
00:56:48.639 --> 00:56:51.960
I do if you're a football person.
1183
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:54.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1184
00:56:54.039 --> 00:56:59.320
I got Jason mccordy, paid thirteen years in NFL. Now
1185
00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:03.159
he's on NFL Network, ESPN, he's at he just signed
1186
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:06.800
with ESPN again, so he's talking football every every Sunday,
1187
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:12.039
every week. And yeah, man, some solid solid guest entrepreneurs
1188
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:13.800
doing some great things. And my season two is going
1189
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:16.440
to be pretty cool too. I got some some social
1190
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:20.320
media influencers. Yeah, I got some other guys that that
1191
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:23.079
branching out. Yeah yeah, I love It's gonna be dope.
1192
00:57:23.639 --> 00:57:27.800
Also former athletes though, so athletes doing different things love it.
1193
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:28.400
I love it.
1194
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:30.519
And you know what I love before we before we
1195
00:57:30.639 --> 00:57:35.239
end out, you get that different look and I feel
1196
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:38.000
like what the audience can now appreciate, because audience appreciates
1197
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:43.199
real life conversations. Yeah, they want they don't want the scripted.
1198
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:43.800
Stuff, not at all.
1199
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:45.880
You know what I mean. Where you're sitting, I get it.
1200
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.039
You have the big productions, the big cameras, the big networks,
1201
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:51.079
so you can't. You have to filter a lot of
1202
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.639
what you say. But when you get those intimate moments,
1203
00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:56.519
those are the ones that we want for sure.
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People love that stuff, of course.
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Man, my guy, I appreciate I appreciate you. Thank you man,
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thank you.
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Alouwely