Mission Evolution with Gwilda Wiyaka Interviews - LON MILO DUQUETTE - Magick & Mysticism

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This is Mission Evolution. I'm Guildaweka. This hours guest is
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Lon Milo Duquay, Internationally respected occult scholar, author, lecturer, musician, magician,
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and one of the most influential living teachers of Western essoterism.
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With decades of study in the Kobala Toro ritual, magic, misiasism,
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and consciousness, Long offers a very rare insight into the
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mechanics of the unseen world and our evolutionary path through it. Lon,
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thanks for joining us on Mission Evolution.
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Thank you very much for having me.
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It's absolutely, absolutely my pleasure. So long, How long did
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your journey into the occult studies and magic begin?
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Pretty much since the beginning. I'm seventy seven years old,
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and it's been sort of a at least a journey
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of self observation that, but like everybody, like everybody, I
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had sort of a I can't claim a you know,
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generational mystical background any more than anybody else. But something's
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kind kind of weird, hapbit. I was born in nineteen
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forty eight, and by the time I was around two,
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just as I was, you know, I hadn't been walking
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very much very long when they I had developed like
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a pain in my in my hip. And they thought
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it was polio at first, because that was the big
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polio's scare and I had neighbor kids on both sides
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of my house with polio and they so they took
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me to the doctor and I didn't have polio. I
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had what they call Perthy's Perthy's hip and it's named
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after the you know, the doctor that discovered him. But
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and there's no cure for it. There's the only treatment
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was to immobilize the patient and maybe did outgrow it,
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but it was like it was a thing where my
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hip joint was literally just grinding itself. Okay, So they
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put me back in the crib. Okay, And to tell
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you the truth, I loved it. I must have been
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just born to be sedentary, and I would I would
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drift in and out of consciousness, like every twenty minutes
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awake and twenty minutes asleep, twenty four hours a day.
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So I it wasn't that I would, you know, I
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fall asleep and sleep for eight hours. No, just every
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other twenty minutes I was asleep. So I had this
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rare opportunity to drift between consciousness, awaking consciousness, dream consciousness,
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and uh with not very much distraction at all, to
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uh keep me from losing what I think we all
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have pre linguistic memories, okay, and I had memories of
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what I can only uh described as being memories of
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being somebody else.
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And so.
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It was it was a few, uh a few different
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kinds of somebody else's. But the most uh I felt
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like I was an adult, uh that I would later
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kind of figure out was uh like late or early
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twentieth century. I had this one memory where I was
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getting into a car that I would later identify as
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like a nineteen twenty seven roadster. Okay, and now this
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is before television or any Okay that we didn't have
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a television until like nineteen fifty four or something like that.
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But I had these vivid memories I was in a
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trench with a bunch of other men, and I remember explosions,
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and I remember the sound of dirt falling on my
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on a helmet. But the vivid one was this getting
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in there, to this roadster and driving, and I was
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all excited, and I remember that even the feeling. I
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remember the feeling even more than what I was observing.
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And I was so anxious and so happy. And I
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was driving down what I would later identify as a
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Pacific Coast Highway old Highway one oh one in California,
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going from like Los Angeles to Mexico, and I was
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to meet my girlfriend in Mexico. And I had all
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of those adult emotional feelings, okay, And I think that
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helped me those years in the crib, stirring up at space,
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thinking about my own existence and where I was before
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I was born and things like that. And I think
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all of us are born with that capacity, but we
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lose it as soon as the objective world around us
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distracts us and puts us and limits limits our dimension.
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Does that make any sense?
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It makes total sense to me, Yes, for sure. What
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pivotal event or realization convinced you that the occult sciences
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are more than mythology.
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Well later I'll grow up. Moved back to California. My
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family moved us from California to Nebraska, back to California.
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When I graduate from high school, right in nineteen sixty six,
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when the psychedelic world was opening up, even in Nebraska,
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I said, if I ever had a chance to take
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that LS Deep by Gully, I'm going to do it.
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And I was a musician, professional musician even at seventeen, okay,
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a working musician and a songwriter. And I was playing
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at this club in Belmont Shore, California, and I walked
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into the restroom at a break and a surfer kind
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of kid said, would you like to buy some LSD?
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You know? And I said, I sure, would you know?
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And I'd heard all of this stuff I read about it,
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doctor Timothy Leary and doctor Albert and stuff. I read
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all the magazine articles about it, sort of the godpill
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and stuff. Well, I wanted that God pill because I knew,
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I knew consciousness was a whole bigger thing than I
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then everybody else, you know, thinks. And it was an amazing,
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an amazing experience, and I had the luxury of taking it.
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There was somebody in the next room in case, you know,
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I freaked out or something. But I was alone all night,
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just with me, and before that, before the evening was over,
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I knew that everything was bigger than I ever imagined,
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and that everything was me. I know it sounds all.
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I'm right, I'm right there with you. I'm casually the
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sixties two though.
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So okay, well you're holding up well.
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Okay, oh, thank you. From from your perspective, How does
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magic relate, speaking of which to human consciousness and evolution?
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That's all it is. Okay, that's all it is. Magic.
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UH is UH a series of magic and kabbala. Okay,
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it's a series of of thought processes meant to accelerate
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willed self evolution and UH magical techniques and cabalistic UH
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based magical techniques are truly the ultimate reason for it
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is not power over others, or it's not to walk
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on water and stuff. Maybe all that stuff comes along
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with it, but only because the expansion of all of
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the possibilities of human consciousness are activated, are lubricated, are
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are are put into practice. It's it's like peeling away
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layers of a glass onion. It's literally, as a Buddhist said,
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you know, hey, I didn't. I'm not a god, I'm
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I'm not a mystic. I'm not a magician. I just
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woke up. Okay. And magic is to help you, assist
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you in a in a dramatic and color way. Okay,
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it's it's not a boring magical art form. Okay, it's fun,
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it's colorful, you get to dress up even, you know.
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But the whole purpose, the whole purpose, is to systematically
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wake up.
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Do you feel humanity is currently undergoing a spiritual or
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esoteric awakening?
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Yeah? Much. And I think everything that would would say no,
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we're just going to hell in a handbasket, will Yeah.
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But I think that's a symptom of an advance, a step,
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a leap, if you will, in human consciousness.
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Like the old falling apart before the new takes form.
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There you go. And well the Gnostics would call that
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the EAO formula. You know, uh, nature seemingly ruined by
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catastrophe only as as sort of the phoenix nest whose flame,
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out of whose flames comes the the next baby phoenix.
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But Alice through Crowley, who.
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I'm sorry, I'm going to have to interrupt. We'll get
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we'll get into Crowley on the other side of a station.
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Pray lawn, and I will return very shortly, So don't
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you go away. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission
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Evolution dot org. What isa with a c iss our
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discussing mysticism and tivination is Lon Milo Duquette, occult scholar, author,
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musician and magician. Lan How does the Kubala map structure
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of consciousness? Uh?
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Pretty accurately, I would say, you know, Kabbala is not
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a not a book, okay, but there's lots of Cabalistic
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uh textbooks Okay, ancient ones for those starting from square one. Uh.
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We could say it's the the mystical and esoteric tradition
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of Judaism. Okay ah, but the oldest Cabbalistic text. It's
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actually written in Hebrew.
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Uh.
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It's sort of the founding document. It's called the Sefer
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yet Zira, or the the Book of Formation. As if
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this is creation okay. It's not a narrative Bible story like,
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but deals with almost creation on a quantum physics or
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astrophysics point of view. And it uses the Hebrew alphabet
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as almost like flash cards trying to explain this. And
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there's twenty two letters in the Hebrew alphabet, and they
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say the twenty two letters those are the.
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Words that God used to create existence, and those words
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are made up of letters, and they're the twenty two letters.
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That's sort of the allegory of the whole thing. But
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that sefroyette zirare just simply and it's just like a pamphlet. Okay,
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it's not even a book. You know. It said, yeah,
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or Deity created everything in thirty two mysterious paths of wisdom,
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and that includes ten numbers out of nothing, so zero
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to ten, Okay, everything was created with those ten those
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ten numbers and then those twenty two letters, and then
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it goes to work to show how everything can be.
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Everything in a manifested universe can be explained with those
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ten numbers and those twenty two letters. And those twenty
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two letters are shown in modern times with the flash
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cards of the tarot, because there's twenty two letters, twenty
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two tarot trumps or a greater arcana, and each of
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those tarot cards are assigned one of those Hebrew letters. Okay,
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and the thirty two paths of or the ten out
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of nothing are the are the the ten cards in
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the lesser arcanas each suit is it is ten. Well,
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here I'll show you in my own tarot deck. Here
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if I can find talk amongst yourselves. Okay, there are
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those ten bubbles. Okay, I'll get it out of my name.
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There ten bubbles, those circles, those are the tens that
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come out of nothing, and they spend a lot of
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time talking about that nothing too, okay, which takes us
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right into the quantum level. Okay. Now it sounds all
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spooky and hard, but it really isn't. It really isn't.
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There's those ten emanations, and that top one would be
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like Godhead, the singularity of existence. If we back our
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camera up as far back as we can go and
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put everything into one shot. Okay, that's the singularity of Godhead.
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And these are lower emanations of consciousness okay, all the
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way down to your head. Okay, from Godhead to your
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head and everything in between. And the process that we
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just got through talking about the process of waking up
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is here. We are asleep within a dream within a dream,
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within a dream within a dream within a dream within
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a dream, okay, and our whole thing is waking up,
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step by step to those different levels of consciousness until
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the Supreme awakening. These last three are sort of the
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stage's last stages that Buddha went through, okay, just before
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his great awakening. And the paths that connect those are
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like circuitries twenty two different conduits of intelligent energy going
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back and forth like a model train transformer. When you
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turn it up, it transforms the the frequency of electricity
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back and forth. So to go from like ten to nine, Okay,
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there's the Hebrew letter and there's the Tarot card that
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does that, and it steps down the consciousness frequency to
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go there, but going up it turns it up and
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so it's an alternating current. Okay, it's really good stuff.
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So where did Duro come from? I mean it looks
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like it's so sophisticated.
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Well, the numbers in the letters are sophisticated, but tarot
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is like the Okay, how would we how would we
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put this in pictures? Okay? Now, I don't believe that
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tarot cards that we have today. And this is my
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tarot deck. By the way, how have you lived so
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long without having this tarot deck? The tarot wasn't invented,
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at least my understanding, it wasn't invented as a cabalistic tool.
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It was the potential of a cabalistic tool because human
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consciousness got a hold of it in the same way
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that our generation's consciousness, if we can say a generation
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has a consciousness, our consciousness was brought together and changed
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and mutated by the invention of radio and television. Okay,
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And in the fifteenth century or the sixteenth century, the
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human consciousness of the of the western world anyway, was
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altered by the universal fascination with plane cards.
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Was it was it a game to start out with.
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It was two kinds of games to start with. The
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greater arcana was it was a game just called it
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was wildly popular called memlock. And that was like bridge.
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I know I'm pronouncing it right or incorrectly, Tarouchi or
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hierarchical structure to it, like the head guy was the
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first guy in the parade, and the second guy in
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the parade took second place, so the first guy triumphed
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him or trumped him so it was a hierarchical thing,
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and some cards were had greater value than others, and
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you'd play it like bridge, I'm sorry this card here,
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Trump's your card, so it gives me more score. So
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it was like that, okay, And it was wildly popular
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with the aristocracy of Northern Europe because they could afford
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to have real life artists painted. Because in their parade
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they had the gods of the of the Greek and
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Roman gods, okay, they had they had moral qualities like
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and virtues okay, like faith, hope, and charity. They all
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had their okay, And they had characters from the the
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culture around them. They had the Pope, and they had
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the Emperor, and they had the Empress, and they had
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religious figures like the high priestess okay who used to
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be pope esque even and magicians and stuff, and they
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had the devil. And then they had the things like
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fortitude and h and balance and stuff. And they had
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as many as I think they had as many as
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maybe sixty different things over the years.
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Okay, How did it transform? How can touro serve as
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a gateway to self awareness and transformation at this point.
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Because it's already doing it. Okay, it's an ordered deck
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of tarot cards, would be like the kabalistically speaking, would
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be like the universe as it really is perfectly operating. Okay,
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we don't think that the universe is operating perfectly because
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our lives are so screwed up. But no, the universe
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is doing exactly what it should be doing everything on queue.
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The reason we don't see it is because we have
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of insufficient powers of perception to view it that way.
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We're not awake enough.
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How do you distinguish between genuine occult practices and superstition
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or fantasy.
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You have to have a certain level of maturity and
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to fully grasp what magic is about. And Aleister Crowley said, look,
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if you want to get into magic for unscrupulous reasons,
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but you're really serious about getting into magic, go ahead,
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because by the time you learn what magic is and
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what it's about, you'll realize that you're unscrupulous. Initial desires
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was total bs. Okay, you know, So to be a magician,
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to work magic, you have to be the equivalent and
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have to develop yourself into the equivalent of what the
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yogis would say self mastery.
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Well it's time again, Lawn and I will be right
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back to continue our discussion. So stay right there. This
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is Mission Evolution www. Dot Mission evolution dot org. Magic
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illusion or delusion. This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org.
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We're discussing the occult with Lawn Milo Decuay. His website
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is Lawnmilo Duquette dot net. Ln. Can you explain the
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relationship between subconscious mind and occult work?
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Well, the in a sense, ceremonial magic is only the
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outward activity or an act, outward act that is triggering
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inward faculties. Okay, my whole my whole thing was shortly
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after my bombshells of early psychedelic experience. I wanted to
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be a first class Eastern mystic okay, okay, And we
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were into yoga and things like that, and I kept
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wanting because this is what I observed. I wasn't into magic.
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I was into like like yoga and Zen and esoteric Buddhism,
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and but I eventually discovered that I kept thinking how
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cool I was going to look gaining enlightenment, Okay, and gee,
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I'm going to look cool losing my ego, you know,
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And that almost was impossible for me to overcome. I
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couldn't break in, but I wanted. I wanted to be
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what was in, but my technique needed to utilize the
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mechanics of outside to do it. I needed to work
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with my inner, inner faculty and in. I don't want
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to sound chauvinistic, but in the East, it just seems
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that the practitioner is more naturally inclined to close their
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eyes and go within and peel away all the things
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that they're not okay, to get to that serene, smooth point.
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But in the West, Okay, we're not inclined to do
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to do that. And I don't know, it's not genetic
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or anything. It's just the kind of the Western way.
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We like scripture, we like ritual, We like things outside
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of ourselves. Even though we know that what we're doing
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when we pick up the wand and wag it around
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that it's it's not really that we're working with, it's
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it's it's the will that of our of our focused intent.
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And so do the tools help simply help focus the
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intent and the will of the individual. Yeah, and then
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and we've put the power into the hands of the
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tools inadvertently.
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Well, we're we're using the tools until we understand that
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they're inner things, okay, And it's it's like a like
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a training training ground for internal things. And and once
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you've made the connection that that wand is an interior
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power and an interior tool, then that wand has power.
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You can wave it around all you want to without
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engaging the interior and you're not going to have any effect.
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It's just a stick. Yeah. Yeah. And so the magic
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isn't for everybody. It's sort of a lonely uh art form.
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Uh insomuch that that it's a it's a dramatic spiritual
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practice that just has one audience and one actor and
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one stage and uh and one terribly terribly ruthless critic.
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And uh so it truly isn't for for everybody.
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How how does one safely begin a magical or esoteric
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practice without falling into delusion? Uh?
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Well, usually you fall into magic because of delusion, okay,
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until because some people are just attracted to it because
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they have a sense that this is going to be
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my way, okay. And and that's that's good, because they
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have a sense that it is going to be my way,
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and that they fall in love with the with the
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outer forms of it because they know they sense that
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that somewhere in there it's the thing for them. I
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tell people, hey, just do what you're attracted to it first.
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There may be five or six things that that you say,
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what I'd like to get into that and do it
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for a while. Okay, nothing is wasted on your journey. Okay,
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you could view entire incarnations as well. I'm do you
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know what I'm attracted to? You know? But the the
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whole thing with magic is that I believe human consciousness
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as a AH in general, has undergone uh and an
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expansion so that that we can see what was once
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a very very small and focused magical art form or
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spiritual art form of the medieval magician, that only a
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few people AH were attracted to, and out of them
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only a few understood what they were, what they were doing.
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What is a demon? You know?
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What was my next question. You've written extensively on angels
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and demons and entities. How do you explain their nature?
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Well, we've all been we're all hardwired, you know, with
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a with a six pack of demons and angels. Okay,
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we're all hardwired with it because they're frequencies of consciousness,
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and some of those frequencies of consciousness when they are
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not properly directed or are controlled or or understood, just
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sort of run run amok through our psyche, through our
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through our lives, like like burning draino, you know, through
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you know. But it's not it's not that they don't
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belong there, because if they're there, they belong they're they're
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there to do something. And and where that level of
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consciousness goes, they need you. Okay, they need you to
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direct their their untapped energies in the same way that
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the myth of Solomon King Solomon, Okay, he used demons
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to build the Great Temple. Okay, that was his that
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was his labor union. Okay.
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But are the independent intelligence archetypes aspects of our own consciousness?
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Everything is in your head, everything including everything you think
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is outside of your head. So I wrote a couple
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of books as as Asbi Lamad ben Clifford. Okay, I
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had to invent my own rabbi, so I so I
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could quote myself, and Rabbi Ben Clifford says, it's all
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in your head, but you just have no idea how
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big your head is. Okay, and he really means that
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because ultimately, oh the cabitalists say, we got there's four
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parts of our soul, if you will as the animal part.
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Then there's the intellect ruoc part, and there's this thing
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called the neshima, which is a roughly translated soul intuition.
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But that's not the neshma is not limited by time
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and space. When a mother wakes up in the middle
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of the night and she knows her child is in
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trouble or has been in an accident or something, that's
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because the child can never leave the mother's nashamah. Okay,
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but it seems like it's outside, doesn't it. The child
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may be on the moon, or on Alpha Centauri or
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a million light years away, and the mother would still
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get that message in the middle of the night. That's
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how big the mother's neshima is. It's kind of depressing
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actually when you think about mothers. But that means there
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is no outside of your head, and there is ultimately
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you are that number one consciousness. Okay, it's not outside
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of yourself. It's not someplace you're going to. It's some
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place you already are and you just haven't woken up
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to it.
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Is it just a matter of not having focused on,
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not having found it internally.
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Yet yeah, so in the same way as those cabalistic
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those abstract cabalistic concepts are easily visualized in the individual
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tarot cards. Okay, in that same way the magical forces, angels, spirits, demons, intelligences. Oh,
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the cabalists have them all categorized. I mean, these guys didn't.
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They had a lot of time on their hands, okay,
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and they've got them categorized in anal retentive neatness. And
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their names all add up to the right numbers, because
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you know, like prime numbers fit inside greater numbers and
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things like that. There ultimately isn't an outside of yourself.
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And so for the purpose of try to get in
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control of everything that's inside yourself, deal with them as
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angel spirits. Okay, you use the word independent, I mean,
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are they are the demons in some section of hell
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playing poker, just waiting for you to call them up,
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you know on there. Oh there's a phone. I got
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to go to lawn. Ah. No, okay, I don't believe
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in it like that at all. But for the sake
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of focusing on one particular magical force, that is that
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spirit's job in the in the cosmos, and currently that
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spirit's not doing their job, you know, as as as
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you would need it to do. Yeah, you for the
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purpose of the ceremony, you play along with the fact
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that these are objective beings.
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We're gonna have to We're gonna have to dive into
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the objective beings on the other side of another station break.
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Please stay with us is law and I continue to
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is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org. We're continuing our
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discussion with Loan Milo du quette is website lanmilodiequette dot net. Lawn.
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How can a cult tools help people navigate the challenges
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of the modern world.
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Well, just like putting a tarot deck in order, uh
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gives you in a certain sense of reboot. It takes
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your chaotic world eteter reboot you reboot. I didn't do
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much today, but I put one thing in order. It
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starts with putting something in order, putting yourself in order.
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I use the term a psychic reboot. And you know,
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to tell you the truth, it is like a like
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a lube a lube job, because if we were actually
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chugging away our psychic machinery in a well oiled manner.
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We would be clear and clear and clear reflections of
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the divine consciousness, of the universal consciousness, because that's exactly
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what we are, and each at each s depth of
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that waking up process. The capital suits say, as I
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moved from ten to nine, to the wakeness of eight,
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to the awakeness of seven, okay, all the way up
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to Godhead, I realize how increasingly universal I really am. Okay,
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we could put it in kind of psychological terms and
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say magical practices such as such as this served to
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increasingly intensify our own self realization. And if when I
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came away from that first acid experience, I knew that
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self realization was the only thing in life truly worth
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going for. And if you can get to that realization,
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anything that you do, I'm sorry, I don't say that
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any religion is wrong or anything you can anything that
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you can do to facilitate your own self realization is
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probably the best thing you can do with your incarnation.
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And so for me, I love the in the same
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way I have taste in music, in the same way
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I have taste in movies and drama, and I have
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taste in how I want to go about my self realization.
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And when I stumbled on magic and to satisfy my
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meat brain part, I stumbled on Cabbala, and where I
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saw how magic and cabala were actually the same thing,
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I knew that that nothing else was going to satisfy.
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And when I ran across the works of Alistair Crowley,
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at first I was totally freaked out because this guy
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had just such a horrible reputation. And I called himself
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the Beast six sixty six, and he just pushed all
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the all of the fear buttons, you know. Uh, and uh,
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something something about him was like, gosh, but he once
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he knows everything that I want to find out, you know.
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And then as the as the months and years passed
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and I meet people that actually lived and worked with
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him and everything else, they made me feel silly that
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I was that afraid. Okay, wow, my friend, uh from
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the old hippie days, Mad Bob, we called him, and
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he was he's a saint. He's we all know saints, Okay,
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he's one of them. And uh, he came back from
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Guatemala and I told him what I was into Tarot
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and this this uh Aleister Crawley character. And I said, oh,
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I found out he was a devil worshiper of some kind.
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And Bob looked at me like I was the stupidest
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person in the world, because he told me so, That's
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why I knew he was thinking that. And he said, look,
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this guy knows everything that you want to find out,
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experienced everything you want to experienced, and he was not
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afraid to tell people about it. I said, yeah, but
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was he a devil worshiper? Was he a Satanist?
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He goes no, and then he goes, well, yes, and
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he said no, no, Well, if he was a Satanist,
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he was a really good kind of Satanist.
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You're just going to love this guy. And he was right. Okay.
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I read the Book of Thoth and ninety nine percent
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of it just went way over my head. But the
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one percent I could grasp was, Okay, this guy's brilliant
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because he's talking about this consciousness shift in humanity that
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we were talking about at the very beginning of our
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chat here today, and that is humanity as a whole
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goes through leaps dimensional leaps in consciousness and it all
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has to do with something very fundamental that the entire
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world experiences at the same time that completely changes their
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focus of reality, and that is our relationship with the sun. Okay,
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for a great period in human history, we thought, well,
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for a great period, we didn't even pay that much
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attention to the sun, just trying to fill our bellies, okay,
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and survive from moment to moment. And that was we'd
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call that an aon. There was there was an aon
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where we were just woman was magic because we didn't
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know where babies came from, and they just popped out
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of a woman, and we didn't know where the food
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came from, and everything else just pops out of the ground. Okay.
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That was That was something we all shared in the
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magical formula. All dealt with with goddess worship and uh
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woman worship, and that was all connected to the moon.
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You know, the cycles of the moon that the women
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are in tune with, and they swell like the moon
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and then empty and all of a sudden there's a
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new little og you know. But then we started to
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put two and two together that the animals don't come,
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the crops don't grow, or the food doesn't grow when
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the sun is weak, and then we realize we need
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the sun. It's a partnership between the Sun and the Earth.
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And then then we get all freaked out that the
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sun dies. Oh god, it goes down, and I oh shoot,
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you know, everything's going to be lost, you know, and
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it goes further south. Well, if you're in the northern hemisphere,
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it goes further south in the wintertime, and we don't
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know whether it's ever going to come back or not,
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you know. So it's a new, improved way of looking
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at things. And there came a time when all of us,
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most of us put two and two together that we
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needed the sun. That was another shift in human conscientiousness,
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and it was another point of view of the of
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the universe and reality that we didn't have before. So
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it was an improvement, but it was still a mistaken
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improve improvement. And then it became all of the son
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and all this patriarchal stuff and kings and life came
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out of depth. So there was everything we were sacrificing
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each other just to make the sun come up, you know,
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And as long as we kept doing, sure enough, the
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sun came up.
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Go figure, right, go figure.
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You emphasize enlightenment doesn't require abandoning everyday life. Why is
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that important?
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Oh God, you got to keep every day life, uh,
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to keep gaining enlightenment. Now it's it's uh. You integrate
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all of all of this in the same way as
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your consciousness is integrated with everything you do in everyday life.
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I mean, I'm a struggling householder, Constance, and I've been
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married for fifty eight years. Congratulations, well, thank you, thank you.
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Congratulate her for putting up with all of this. As
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a matter of fact, it was. It's a necessary partnership
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of we're on this journey together and we're so lucky.
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At least I'm so lucky anyway, No, I integrate. I
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can't be who I'm not, and what I am is
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kind of a while than crazy magician. And once you're
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a magician, everything you do is magic. And when you
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screw up in life, you've magically screwed up.
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That puts my heart at ease. I have to tell you.
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So, you don't do magic to make your life. Now,
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you do magic to make your life magic, okay, And
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it is a perpetual background meditation at all times. And
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you know I'm not consciously thinking Oh, that's that Hebrew letter,
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this or all of that's that suffering? No, when you're
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the per of magic is to make yourself a mgation.
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Well, Loan, it's about that time. So before we close,
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I have to ask you, what's your mission?
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My mission is to completely exhaust my potentiality.
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That is a worthy mission.
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It'd probably take a while, just min, just min.
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What final message would you like to leave our listeners
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for seeking empowerment, evolution.
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And deeper meaning trust yourself.
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There we have it, Lon, Unfortunately we are out of time.
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Thank you so much for coming on the show and
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sharing your wisdom.
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Thank you very much.
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It's been a pleasure. Our gratitude to Lan Milo Duquette
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for sharing his wisdom with us today. To explore Lan's books,
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teachings and music, visit Lawnmilo Duquette dot net. This has
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been Mission Evil with Gwildwyeka. For more and from Mation,
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or to enjoy past archived episodes, visit www dot Mission
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evolution dot org. But please be sure to join us
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again next time on Mission Evolution as we continue our
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journey into the expanding frontier of human potential.