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00:00:03.697Welcome to this week's episode of Middle-Aged Millennials.
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00:00:23.317But let's just dive right into it, continuing with our top five,
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00:00:34.957Number five, Brandy and Monica, The Boy Is Mine.
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00:00:39.037Number four, Usher, My Way.
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00:00:43.357Number three, Jennifer Page, Crush.
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00:00:47.177Number two, The First Night, Monica.
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00:00:54.877And the number one song this week from one of the top movies of the year 1998.
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00:01:03.137That's a banger top five eric hey everybody that
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00:01:10.837monica getting two spots or is that brandy getting two spots that is monica
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00:01:14.117that's that's incredible people forget how good of an artist she was back in
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00:01:20.037our day she was very good she was awesome yeah that's i love every one of those
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00:01:30.677Yeah, that's a good one. And yeah, and the movie, by the way,
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00:01:47.857But yeah, this episode, we're diving into more.
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00:01:58.497episode so this is kind of going to be that a few episodes in kind of diving into more how we met,
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00:02:07.757more into what college was like as a millennial those early 2000s to 2010,
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00:02:15.757was in college and we can kind of discuss some of our favorite memories and,
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00:02:28.171Yeah, so Eric and I are old. At least we feel old.
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00:02:33.951So we both graduated high school in 2006, I think? Yes. Okay.
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00:02:40.051So, you know, my story really quick is I obviously grew up in New York and got
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00:02:43.911recruited to the school Johnson & Wales, which I thought was a culinary school.
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00:02:47.271And they sold me on this idea of like having a sports
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00:02:56.511and you know johnson of wales's whole
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00:03:00.051recruiting pitch is like yeah come get a bachelor's degree and you
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00:03:02.831know you can get a degree in sports management you only go to school
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00:03:05.771monday through thursday and you know my family
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00:03:08.811at the time was relocating to north carolina and lo
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00:03:12.631and behold johnson of wales had very recently opened a
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00:03:15.631north Carolina campus I want to say we were what like the third
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00:03:19.231or fourth class that started at JW Charlotte third
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00:03:22.751yeah third and you know life
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00:03:26.071doesn't always take us you know the directions we want and I was
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00:03:28.811supposed to start in the fall and didn't I made a
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00:03:31.771very 18 year old decision to go fall for love which
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00:03:37.151god has been a reoccurring horrible thing for my life and uh
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00:03:40.071moved to Chicago for a few months put college on hold
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00:03:42.831that didn't work out shocker 18 year old making a
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00:03:45.851decision like that and started in the spring
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00:03:49.511because Jonathan Wells was on trimesters which is a little different so
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00:03:53.731instead of having basically like two halves of the year there's like three-thirds
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00:04:01.191and moved in and did not like my first roommate we did not get along I wish
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00:04:06.831him all the best he was a psychopath and then I don't think I met you Eric until.
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00:04:10.831Was it the following fall or was it that year I don't remember.
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00:04:15.622It was the i think it was the fall of 2007.
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00:04:19.682It's the winter term first day
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00:04:29.582kind of how you know stumbled into eric and you know the cool thing about johnson
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00:04:37.942it was like hey i like sports hey i like sports cool You want to be friends? Sure.
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00:04:45.302That's kind of how I feel like it went down. But E, I'll let you kind of tell
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00:04:52.022Yeah. I started actually around this time.
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00:04:56.842I don't know if it's still the case, but I started my first term in college
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00:05:05.222I had been in North Carolina for a couple of years, did a right-ass job.
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00:05:08.122I was looking for something kind of close to home.
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00:05:12.982I had applied elsewhere and just decided it was a smaller fit.
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00:05:16.802Smaller school is going to be better for me, half hour from home.
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00:05:24.082I will admit that, first term.
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00:05:29.722Kind of screwed up academically a little bit. But turned it around after that.
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00:05:35.102As Jordan mentioned, his 18-year-old dumb decision, that was mine.
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00:05:42.145But yeah, and then after having to take a couple classes, having to take class
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00:05:49.725the next year in the fall, that's when I met Jordan II in the follow-up class in that year.
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00:05:54.785And then it just kind of, as I say, the rest is history.
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00:05:59.965And that's where we ended up. I don't remember what class it was we met in.
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00:06:03.145I'm trying to sit here and think. It was probably a core class.
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00:06:06.325It was facilities, I believe. was it was that
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00:06:09.965was that wasn't with norman was it no fisher fisher
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00:06:12.825that's right joe fisher but then we also
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00:06:15.665the thing with johnson and wales is like you know
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00:06:30.505other people yes so and just
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00:06:33.565you know like i kind of you know men were
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00:06:36.205much simpler creatures and it was like hey bro i'm gonna go
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00:06:39.845out and grab a beer you want to go out and grab a beer sure and then you know
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00:06:44.685at some point you know our love of sports kind of brought us together and just
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00:06:48.125we just kind of realized like hey this guy's pretty cool this guy's pretty cool
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00:07:00.385yes um so i don't know if eric wants to divulge into some of the funness of
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00:07:04.605us living together i'll kind of piggyback in we have a lot of stories we're
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00:07:06.385going to try to condense yes.
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00:07:14.885Into so what what was it like going to college in like the late 2000s and you
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00:07:17.845know not knowing that like you were going to meet like one of your best friends,
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00:07:29.559I am grateful that social media is not where it's at now with that first year of college.
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00:07:33.839Though, because Facebook was
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00:07:39.279kind of starting and Facebook then was exclusively for college students.
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00:07:46.359And yeah, I mean, if you could go through your old photos and see them,
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00:07:48.999yeah, it's, yeah, I'm glad there's not as much evidence.
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00:07:54.459Of much of my college life. I like how you use the word evidence there.
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00:08:00.299We grew up in a day where not everybody had a camera phone ready and willing.
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00:08:06.719Yeah, it was like a flip phone, or I think I had a slider phone for a while.
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00:08:11.699We were still texting T9 in 2010.
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00:08:14.799We still had MySpace pages, which we haven't done.
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00:08:18.719I did still have my MySpace freshman year of college.
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00:08:23.059I think I had mine too, but it was kind of phasing out at the time.
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00:08:28.139Just go watch the movie, The Social Network, about the storm formation of social media or Facebook.
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00:08:37.719Cause you know, I remember, I don't think it was face mash, but it was one of
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00:08:40.639those like very early on versions of like swipe right or swipe left.
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00:08:45.739Yeah. I mean, there was, there was a lot and we'll, we'll do the social,
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00:08:52.619yeah that was just yeah thankfully
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00:09:01.199you know eric i always think about like some of like the fun stuff first of
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00:09:04.999all we got away with a lot and the timeline for like the stuff we talk about
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00:09:08.959will probably jump all over but to me college was just kind of one big four-year
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00:09:17.385I know one quick funny story, and it's definitely one that is just quick,
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00:09:22.125but it's also really funny. But we had moved into this apartment called City View Towers.
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00:09:36.025you could literally listen to the games on Sunday through the stadium speakers. It was really cool.
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00:09:39.925But I remember we were moving in, and Eric knows the story I want to tell.
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00:09:43.905We were walking towards the elevator because at the time, I think there was
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00:09:49.385No, there, there are two, one on each side. Okay.
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00:09:53.525So we were walking like, this was a, this was our apartment that faced,
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00:09:58.945actually, I like that apartment better, by the way, our first one did face Bank
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00:10:00.625of America stadium. So that was cool.
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00:10:06.425But we actually had the view of uptown like on that side. I really liked that one better though.
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00:10:11.085Yeah. Yeah. Charlotte is a very pretty city. At least it was,
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00:10:14.525i've been down there recently and it's becoming too much because
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00:10:18.165back when we were there there was still like space to grow but with
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00:10:22.605the baseball stadium and stuff like that now i think it's incredibly congested
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00:10:27.085but anyway we were walking which eric and i i think at that point we were everybody
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00:10:31.105knew we were buddies you know you really didn't ever see me without you or vice
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00:10:34.825versa again we were always going out and either getting food in a house to eat
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00:10:40.965And our RA, Kurt, at the time, stopped us.
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00:10:45.225And I remember him looking at us and going, have you guys seen a motorcycle?
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00:10:48.185And Eric was like, motorcycle?
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00:10:53.585And as Eric finished saying the word motorcycle, the elevator door pings and,
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00:10:58.005outrolls a kid that lives in our building with a motorcycle.
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00:11:01.925Did I, like, that one?
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00:11:08.105And it was this kid Mike Palmer. And I mean, I don't know if we should change
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00:11:12.485names for these stories, but Mike was a very well-off kid and a great guy.
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00:11:13.505I mean, I didn't ride him.
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00:11:18.505But, you know, he had one of those really fast Rice Rocket Ninja motorcycles.
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00:11:22.885And Johnson of Wales was very particular about parking. You have to pay everywhere
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00:11:24.925in Charlotte to park. You have to pay to take a pee in Charlotte.
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00:11:29.505But, you know, Palmer had a little Ninja motorcycle and they were literally
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00:11:32.425towing anything that was in the parking lot that didn't have a sticker on it.
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00:11:36.125And Mike thought he could just stash his motorcycle in his room.
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00:11:42.985The timing of that maybe it's funnier if we like you could be there but like,
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00:11:46.845just the fact that like we were asked if we saw a motorcycle and then here comes
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00:11:48.085this kid rolling one out of the elevator,
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00:11:54.465yeah the timing of that was just perfectly timed Palmer,
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00:11:59.285what's the more shenanigans we got in 2E oh man,
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00:12:11.445in college trying not to incriminate man I mean we never really did like true shenanigans stuff but.
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00:12:19.319I would have to say, man, it's okay, Eric, you can tell a story.
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00:12:22.359If it embarrasses the hell out of me, I'll take one for the team.
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00:12:25.659I can think of one in particular that I knew you want to talk about.
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00:12:29.599Cause I wrote somebody's name down on our like pre-show rundown.
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00:12:33.399And I know the exact, you can tell that one. It's okay.
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00:12:38.659I have a fun spin to that side. I know you did because it's,
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00:12:41.279there's an embarrassing side for me as well.
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00:12:48.219Um that will probably come out in this episode but yeah it was halloween we had we had fun,
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00:12:52.219i had assist i'd helped uh our other
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00:12:55.799roommate miles and his girlfriend
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00:12:58.579at the time that are at the freshman part at the
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00:13:02.139dorms half mile away with their
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00:13:09.659trunk or treat and so we're there kind of helping us help them out and jordan
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00:13:13.959i don't know why you didn't go i can't remember the reason but i think i was
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00:13:18.899too drunk i think i just wasn't vibing that night so yeah so anyway,
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00:13:25.879jordan's in his room these are the apartments were four bedrooms and jordan's in his room.
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00:13:36.459And miles miles miles i come back and we go right you can stand up and then
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00:13:37.459there's a knock on our door,
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00:13:42.472And I haven't met him, I didn't meet him until this night. It was yours,
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00:13:46.352yours and Miles' roommate from the previous year, Luke.
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00:13:51.872One of my favorite people. Can I quickly describe Luke to everybody? Please do.
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00:13:56.992Okay, so I got to preface this by saying I love everybody.
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00:14:01.052I do not care who you are. I do not care the color of your skin.
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00:14:06.932To be very stereotypical, I will only judge you by the content of your character. Thank you, MLK.
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00:14:09.532Yes. So this kid moves in.
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00:14:13.452Me and Miles don't know who he is. We just see his pictures and think,
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00:14:16.012oh, this is an Abercrombie-looking kid. Cool.
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00:14:23.292Luke walks in our room, and the first thing he does is sashay his way in,
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00:14:27.492and in only the most RuPaul way, say, hey, bitches.
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00:14:31.052And me and Miles knew exactly what we were signed up for at that point.
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00:14:34.552So Luke was arguably the,
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00:14:37.472and I don't mean this in any driver, he was probably the gayest person i ever met
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00:14:40.752but also the most genuinely lovely people
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00:14:43.692you'll ever meet yes would agree with
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00:14:46.452that very genuine very and like
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00:14:49.292he never he never made me
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00:14:52.212feel weird or uncomfortable and i'll tell a funny story when harry's
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00:14:55.152done telling this but just i just wanted to really preface this by saying like
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00:14:58.172luke is to this day i
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00:15:01.052don't talk to him much anymore but like just again
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00:15:04.552the sweetest most genuine person to this day i don't know if he knows what kind
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00:15:09.172of impacting me not me but like he was just such a good funny guy and there
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00:15:12.852was never a dull moment and it was never awkward because he was gay he would
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00:15:16.732always kind of pick on you like if he knew you were overly straight he would
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00:15:20.292kind of needle you a little bit so all right back to eric story,
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00:15:25.112this is the person that shows up at our door eric continue the story thank you
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00:15:30.872yes and i don't remember the costume fully.
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00:15:35.272But I believe he was a nurse.
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00:15:41.632If I remember correctly, because this is now going back 17 years,
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00:15:50.892so I don't really remember why, but he comes in and introduced myself and Miles,
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00:15:53.932and we go, he goes, where's Jordan?
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00:15:56.352And I go, he's in his room, sleeping.
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00:16:02.152And Luke just smiles. And I point him into Jordan's room.
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00:16:06.552Miles and I follow because we have a feeling something's happening here.
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00:16:19.552And Jordan's on his bed. And Luke quietly sneaks on the bed and starts spooning Jordan.
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00:16:22.052I'm sorry.
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00:16:25.072Oh, my God.
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00:16:29.436And it took a little bit.
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00:16:34.436It took a little bit. All of a sudden, Jordan turns around, and Luke,
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00:16:36.656I can't remember what Luke said, but it just said something.
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00:16:41.916He said, good morning, sweetie. I'll never forget it. And he's, again, full drag.
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00:16:46.556Full drag. And I knew I was drunk that night.
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00:16:49.656But, like, I don't know if we ever had the moment where you were like,
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00:16:51.876holy crap, did I drink that much?
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00:16:56.716It was one of those moments. But yeah, he said, good morning,
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00:16:58.516sweetie. Yes, that's what it was.
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00:17:06.796Luke, that was, again, that was one of those moments where my first question
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00:17:10.016was, did we? Luke said, no, we didn't.
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00:17:17.536As Miles and I are laughing our asses off. Oh my God. Yeah, you guys were just pissed laughing.
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00:17:20.056And, you know, the first question was, did we?
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00:17:24.456And then the next question or the next statement from Luke was, but would I?
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00:17:27.776Yes and i said luke that that's great but no
00:17:27.776 -->
00:17:30.936i couldn't help
00:17:30.936 -->
00:17:34.776it man gay dudes love the teddy bear but i
00:17:34.776 -->
00:17:37.616don't know if we want to keep talking about luke and i want to continue embarrassing
00:17:37.616 -->
00:17:44.276myself no oh you can you can embarrass me now okay all right so again the wonders
00:17:44.276 -->
00:17:48.616of living with eric y'all is eric is a big country music fan i don't you still
00:17:48.616 -->
00:17:51.956are i think yeah you know And me,
00:17:52.276 -->
00:17:55.856I'm more the metalhead, definitely the metalhead. There's no more of that.
00:17:56.236 -->
00:17:59.776Mind you, I like all genres of music. And at some points in college,
00:17:59.976 -->
00:18:02.336I was coached in a government country music college. Same here.
00:18:02.516 -->
00:18:06.596I mean, Jordan and I influenced each other in music.
00:18:07.016 -->
00:18:11.816Yeah, I took Eric to his first metal concert, and Eric took me to my first country
00:18:11.816 -->
00:18:15.036show where we saw a very early career, Jason Aldean. Yes.
00:18:15.696 -->
00:18:20.116But so, you know, Eric and I, that's another thing we have in common. we both love music.
00:18:20.296 -->
00:18:23.096So like, we don't really care the kind of music. We both are very passionate
00:18:23.096 -->
00:18:29.916about music. And I don't think either of us have a singing voice to save our life. No. And we did.
00:18:31.026 -->
00:18:34.526You tell the road trip story but yeah that
00:18:34.526 -->
00:18:37.506would be another episode but man the road trip story was
00:18:37.506 -->
00:18:42.586fun but so anyway you know with college everybody has different schedules everybody's
00:18:42.586 -->
00:18:47.746doing their thing eric very securely thinking he was by himself and i don't
00:18:47.746 -->
00:18:51.946remember why i came home early that day i might have just ditched class which
00:18:51.946 -->
00:18:54.686honestly at johnson and wales i I probably did too much,
00:18:54.846 -->
00:18:58.746but I got good enough. I finished for the 3.2 GPA.
00:19:00.466 -->
00:19:03.286So I walk in the house, and I hear this music playing.
00:19:04.006 -->
00:19:08.846And the way our room was broken up was you walk into the kitchen in the dining
00:19:08.846 -->
00:19:11.986area, and then you go to the left, and there's two bedrooms,
00:19:12.226 -->
00:19:16.266a vanity, and a shower, and a toilet. Then you go to the right, and it's the same thing.
00:19:16.826 -->
00:19:20.166I hear Eric's music playing, which, again, was very common for our apartment
00:19:20.166 -->
00:19:22.846because we always had music playing. We always liked jamming out.
00:19:22.846 -->
00:19:26.806So a lot of OAR, Eric and I, Eric helped me develop my love of OAR.
00:19:27.706 -->
00:19:32.646But Eric was in the shower singing Red High Heels by Kelly Pickler.
00:19:33.886 -->
00:19:38.166Now, I don't know how many people listening to this podcast know that song,
00:19:38.306 -->
00:19:40.246but it is not the most masculine song.
00:19:41.126 -->
00:19:46.146Now, I could have just... No shame. No, own your filth, bro. Own your filth.
00:19:47.046 -->
00:19:50.386So yeah, I remember Eric was in the shower.
00:19:50.386 -->
00:19:54.266And rather than just ignoring him or doing something rude and a flush on the
00:19:54.266 -->
00:19:55.826toilet I let him finish his song,
00:19:57.506 -->
00:20:00.706I'll imagine his surprise thankfully he was wearing a towel when he walked out
00:20:00.706 -->
00:20:05.906to see me sitting there pissing myself laughing and the look on his face realized
00:20:05.906 -->
00:20:11.366I just heard his shower karaoke version of Red High Heels that was.
00:20:13.246 -->
00:20:19.02618, 16 years ago to this day we cannot talk about country music without maybe
00:20:19.026 -->
00:20:21.046cracking up a little bit because Eric so,
00:20:22.226 -->
00:20:28.506no that was thank you for letting me do some self-deprecation Eric yep no problem,
00:20:29.526 -->
00:20:33.686what else what other some fun members we have from back in the day say it's
00:20:33.686 -->
00:20:34.886that St. Patrick's Day was fun.
00:20:36.221 -->
00:20:38.921You remember it i'll let you tell a
00:20:38.921 -->
00:20:41.641saint patrick's story that that's a funny that's got a funny ending to it
00:20:41.641 -->
00:20:44.381yeah so saint patrick's day
00:20:44.381 -->
00:20:49.741god what year was that was that 2009 no we're on the other side yeah that was
00:20:49.741 -->
00:20:54.8812009 because we were facing big america sure because canada canada's room was
00:20:54.881 -->
00:21:04.301across from us we were diagonal that's valid yep yeah yeah so where we were and where canada was,
00:21:04.601 -->
00:21:08.741we call him Canada because he was originally from Toronto, so we call him Canada.
00:21:09.181 -->
00:21:10.921Well, there are two Canadas, by the way.
00:21:11.441 -->
00:21:17.381There's a Canada that got hit by the car, and then there's this Canada who lived
00:21:17.381 -->
00:21:24.661on the balcony next to us, or I can't even describe how that angle, but yeah, so it's St.
00:21:24.781 -->
00:21:30.121Patrick's Day, and it's like, okay, let's just, I was 21 at the time,
00:21:30.281 -->
00:21:36.301the only one who was 21 at the time, and And so I was in charge of buying the stuff.
00:21:37.021 -->
00:21:42.661So I bought, we didn't want anything heavy, so I bought a bunch of Killian's,
00:21:42.861 -->
00:21:50.921I still love Killian's to this day, Killian's Irish Red, and we drank and watched Boondock Saints.
00:21:51.901 -->
00:21:56.081Naturally, you should do. Right. And love that movie.
00:21:56.521 -->
00:22:02.601And so we're on the, just before we watched Boondock Saints, we're already drunk.
00:22:02.601 -->
00:22:06.641We're just gonna take a break we're on a balcony and canada comes out what you
00:22:06.641 -->
00:22:10.421guys doing hey we're about to watch booting dock saints can i was like can i
00:22:10.421 -->
00:22:13.261watch yeah come on over yeah i'll bring,
00:22:13.841 -->
00:22:19.941i can't even say this without my stomach kind of going right now he brings a bass ale over.
00:22:22.761 -->
00:22:28.081And we've been drinking killings and all that but yeah so we were just,
00:22:29.037 -->
00:22:32.477that scene in beer fest it's like we're drunk
00:22:32.477 -->
00:22:36.417but it's like more buzz than anything and
00:22:36.417 -->
00:22:39.917then you have the that one thing it all of a sudden just triggers
00:22:39.917 -->
00:22:45.957everything that was the bad sale so we just walk we do everything we watch the
00:22:45.957 -->
00:22:52.677movie did we do a drinking game that night i feel like we took a sip of beer
00:22:52.677 -->
00:22:57.357i don't remember we looked up like a boondock saints like every time this happens,
00:22:58.457 -->
00:23:02.137And I just remember being hammered by the time the movie was done.
00:23:02.857 -->
00:23:10.917We were next to the trash recycling room where our apartment was.
00:23:12.017 -->
00:23:17.897And at one point, I take out a paper bag full of glass bottles,
00:23:18.197 -->
00:23:23.817go out the door, stumble 10 feet to the other door, open the door, drop it.
00:23:23.837 -->
00:23:26.717And I go, did you guys hear that?
00:23:31.357 -->
00:23:38.557Yeah a lot of if you ever drop a bag of glass bottles from six stories up it
00:23:38.557 -->
00:23:45.557makes a cool sound but anyway yeah i don't remember much else,
00:23:46.907 -->
00:23:55.127And then you had an early class that day, the next day, that you attended. I didn't.
00:23:55.567 -->
00:23:59.307Yeah, I think because that was like my 7 o'clock in the morning class.
00:23:59.387 -->
00:24:01.427Yeah, you had an early class, and you went to that.
00:24:01.647 -->
00:24:08.727I slept in a little bit for our first class, which was media relations with Weber.
00:24:09.407 -->
00:24:16.947And I go and I'm hung over but not as bad because I could sleep in an extra hour or two.
00:24:19.147 -->
00:24:25.487Yeah, I throw Jordan under the bus. Well, again, we were inseparable back then.
00:24:25.627 -->
00:24:30.587I mean, we weren't like at each other's hip, but like, we were literally beat us in butthead.
00:24:30.787 -->
00:24:35.187So like, one of us was, the other one was. So for Weber being this old dude
00:24:35.187 -->
00:24:38.867from Wisconsin, knowing it was the day after for St.
00:24:38.947 -->
00:24:41.547Paddy's Day, and to see Weirdo, but not Angie.
00:24:41.947 -->
00:24:46.247He asked me. He straight up asked me. Yep. Where's Jordan?
00:24:46.987 -->
00:24:50.547And he's hungover. Okay. And he just continued walking.
00:24:54.367 -->
00:24:57.427Yeah, that was it.
00:24:57.947 -->
00:25:02.467But yeah, it was just a great... He called me that day.
00:25:03.147 -->
00:25:08.847You remember that part? He took your phone and called me. And I gave him my phone to call you.
00:25:09.287 -->
00:25:13.867Yeah, I was at home, again, just dying from, because I didn't get drunk by the
00:25:13.867 -->
00:25:15.087red. I'm going to pride myself on that.
00:25:15.207 -->
00:25:17.587Back then, I was an iron tank. I could drink a lot.
00:25:18.007 -->
00:25:22.267Real good. But when you mix Killian's with probably liquor of some variety,
00:25:22.327 -->
00:25:28.587and then you put bass ale on top of it, that was a special kind of hangover potion we had.
00:25:28.727 -->
00:25:32.727And I was just not feeling it that day. That was the kind of day where,
00:25:32.727 -->
00:25:34.867like, you sleep because sunlight hurts.
00:25:37.182 -->
00:25:40.342And I got through my first class and was not having it. But yeah,
00:25:40.482 -->
00:25:44.602I remember we're getting woken up at like 1230 in the afternoon.
00:25:45.182 -->
00:25:47.782And I was you. I think I said something rude, like, what's up,
00:25:47.902 -->
00:25:48.822shithead, or something like that.
00:25:49.542 -->
00:25:53.082Yep. And I just hear Weber go, oh, hey, Jordan. And I was like,
00:25:53.202 -->
00:25:56.522what the fuck? You son of a. Yeah.
00:25:58.122 -->
00:26:03.782But yeah, that was probably a good one. But it was, yeah, college then.
00:26:05.002 -->
00:26:08.662As a millennial was kind of was great you didn't have all the social media and everything,
00:26:09.682 -->
00:26:13.282we had fun with all that but there's
00:26:13.282 -->
00:26:16.202also moments where it was
00:26:16.202 -->
00:26:19.142yeah i don't know i mean class projects
00:26:19.142 -->
00:26:21.902are kind of fun too hey eric speaking of
00:26:21.902 -->
00:26:24.902class projects you want to tell everybody our favorite class project story
00:26:24.902 -->
00:26:27.762same same this is the same class that we just talked
00:26:27.762 -->
00:26:31.062about by the way with the same professor media relations with
00:26:31.062 -->
00:26:34.722uh yep so there's two
00:26:34.722 -->
00:26:38.062parts to this that were great we had
00:26:38.062 -->
00:26:41.182to pick a was it a charity or
00:26:41.182 -->
00:26:46.902yeah we had to pick a charity of any type and we had to create like an event
00:26:46.902 -->
00:26:51.442for it yeah we had to create like a media packet and like present to the class
00:26:51.442 -->
00:26:56.962like a press conference yeah like hey we're announcing this event and it's happening
00:26:56.962 -->
00:26:59.302this and this is the charity and this is what we're doing.
00:27:00.202 -->
00:27:04.462So per usual, me and Eric got paired up in a group and we had a couple other
00:27:04.462 -->
00:27:07.482people. I don't remember the specifics of who else was in that group.
00:27:09.557 -->
00:27:13.317What did we end up like i don't remember what our topic was i just remember
00:27:13.317 -->
00:27:21.137we dressed up so we did the humane society that's right and we spent one of
00:27:21.137 -->
00:27:27.397the one of the classes we borrowed a the gopro camera and went to the humane
00:27:27.397 -->
00:27:29.517society and filmed the dogs and,
00:27:30.117 -->
00:27:34.297created this video and i
00:27:34.297 -->
00:27:37.837don't know whose idea it was but one
00:27:37.837 -->
00:27:41.277i think we picked the best song out of everything i don't
00:27:41.277 -->
00:27:45.657remember so that bad yes it
00:27:45.657 -->
00:27:50.517was will you be there that's right and then
00:27:50.517 -->
00:27:53.597we didn't we pick like celebrities we had to be yeah so
00:27:53.597 -->
00:27:56.457we yeah so we we decided to
00:27:56.457 -->
00:27:59.577kind of add a little twist to be like we'll be
00:27:59.577 -->
00:28:02.277what celebrities are part of
00:28:02.277 -->
00:28:05.637like causes for animals and all that
00:28:05.637 -->
00:28:08.697so we find it i think it
00:28:08.697 -->
00:28:11.617was i don't remember who else one was somebody was
00:28:11.617 -->
00:28:17.237britney spears don't remember one was ellen degeneres sanchez ashley sanchez
00:28:17.237 -->
00:28:23.697and she was britney spears yep somebody was ellen degeneres you were brett michaels
00:28:23.697 -->
00:28:30.737which was hilarious of course the metal head has to be brett michaels and i went as brad paisley.
00:28:31.897 -->
00:28:36.197Which me having to go buy a wig y'all I did not know where to buy a wig so we
00:28:36.197 -->
00:28:41.277went to Party City and I bought a Hannah Montana wig,
00:28:41.997 -->
00:28:47.197and if you've ever seen me which don't that's why I'm on a non-video podcast
00:28:47.197 -->
00:28:51.617I'm very bald right now and did not face for a blonde wig,
00:28:52.657 -->
00:28:57.277yeah it's hilarious but yeah we crushed it and.
00:28:58.772 -->
00:29:01.452Remember being told it was
00:29:01.452 -->
00:29:04.552the least professional presentation he'd ever
00:29:04.552 -->
00:29:09.372seen but he didn't grade on professionalism you
00:29:09.372 -->
00:29:12.392and i i always feel like eric whenever we had classes and projects
00:29:12.392 -->
00:29:15.252together we always were on the same mindset like we didn't want
00:29:15.252 -->
00:29:18.672to be the same you know because like we went
00:29:18.672 -->
00:29:22.112to powerpoint university so like everybody did
00:29:22.112 -->
00:29:24.852a powerpoint and like when you have to sit through a class where
00:29:24.852 -->
00:29:27.832everybody's giving presentations it's the same thing
00:29:27.832 -->
00:29:30.852over and over again so i feel like our approach which always
00:29:30.852 -->
00:29:33.592made us again friends is like we try to
00:29:33.592 -->
00:29:36.572think not like taco bell but like outside the box
00:29:36.572 -->
00:29:40.552so like sure we could have just given like a boring powerpoint presentation
00:29:40.552 -->
00:29:45.072with a well shot video or we could dress up and i think we were the only group
00:29:45.072 -->
00:29:50.432to really dress up and like commit to it we were yeah so got a good grade on
00:29:50.432 -->
00:29:53.932that one But continue the other half of the story Because this is where it gets funny,
00:29:54.592 -->
00:29:56.672So we presented one day,
00:29:57.372 -->
00:30:01.652The next groups were Presenting the next class day Well.
00:30:03.532 -->
00:30:10.512Between presentation Day one and presentation Day two we had Watched a South Park episode,
00:30:11.172 -->
00:30:17.552And it's one of my Favorite South Park episodes to this day It is the Purity
00:30:17.552 -->
00:30:21.812Rings Rip on Disney, Jonas Brothers episode.
00:30:23.032 -->
00:30:28.892And, oh God. So, we... I'll fill in some context.
00:30:29.152 -->
00:30:33.492If you haven't seen that episode, they portray Mickey Mouse as this character
00:30:33.492 -->
00:30:35.292that is an authoritarian asshole.
00:30:35.832 -->
00:30:41.832And he beats the crap... Yeah. And like, they make him like a real person that runs Disney.
00:30:42.072 -->
00:30:44.332And he beats the crap out of the Jonas Brothers.
00:30:44.692 -->
00:30:47.972And by the end of the episode, ends up getting angry
00:30:47.972 -->
00:30:51.392and becomes a parade float setting the city on fire yeah
00:30:51.392 -->
00:30:54.212um and to this day yeah eric i'm over
00:30:54.212 -->
00:30:57.292here trying not to laugh thinking about it because it is the funniest
00:30:57.292 -->
00:31:00.492episode i've ever seen it it
00:31:00.492 -->
00:31:03.912cut one of the things like it just it just caught me off guard on
00:31:03.912 -->
00:31:07.912that episode and it just anyway so
00:31:07.912 -->
00:31:11.592we're watching that doing something for another class as
00:31:11.592 -->
00:31:15.452we're watching it and we live
00:31:15.452 -->
00:31:18.972we're talking about it the next day and one of
00:31:18.972 -->
00:31:22.892the groups does make a wish great
00:31:22.892 -->
00:31:27.432a great great cause great presentation
00:31:27.432 -->
00:31:34.352great cause everything was great jordan and i are sitting in there and all of
00:31:34.352 -->
00:31:43.412a sudden of the make a wish group post a picture of the jonas brothers with mickey mouse.
00:31:45.032 -->
00:31:50.732And Jordan and I just look at each other and immediately look away because we
00:31:50.732 -->
00:31:55.532are now trying not to laugh at the worst possible time.
00:31:57.827 -->
00:32:00.947And to this day, I don't know how we didn't burst out laughing.
00:32:01.367 -->
00:32:04.887Dude, I'm laughing now thinking about how. Laughing now, yeah,
00:32:05.187 -->
00:32:08.087we can. But laughter in that presentation, no.
00:32:08.947 -->
00:32:13.727Yeah, that was so rude of us to do that. Like, these people put a lot of hours
00:32:13.727 -->
00:32:14.807and effort into this project.
00:32:14.927 -->
00:32:17.267And here's these two idiots just laughing their ass.
00:32:17.607 -->
00:32:24.227I held it in. I wasn't trying to laugh. I couldn't. I couldn't help it. Yeah.
00:32:26.127 -->
00:32:33.087So, yeah. that's kind of it really on that but or jordan why don't you take
00:32:33.087 -->
00:32:37.947it yeah i guess you know the one thing i want to touch on and then we'll try
00:32:37.947 -->
00:32:40.427to say nice things about each other which good luck,
00:32:41.347 -->
00:32:44.147you know one thing eric and i developed and it's something that
00:32:44.147 -->
00:32:47.027i think as our friendship has continued is like we obviously are
00:32:47.027 -->
00:32:51.407friends and we like each other we care about each other the most plutonic
00:32:51.407 -->
00:32:54.327way but we always had this thing where we always had a balcony
00:32:54.327 -->
00:32:57.807wherever we lived at we had a balcony and when
00:32:57.807 -->
00:33:01.347one of us will be having a bad day you know
00:33:01.347 -->
00:33:05.827as a man especially in your early 20s being vulnerable is kind of really hard
00:33:05.827 -->
00:33:09.847to do which i have all kinds of commentary on that and as i've gotten older
00:33:09.847 -->
00:33:14.447and really gone through some shit i have some commentary on mental health but
00:33:14.447 -->
00:33:21.087you know i i don't hide how i feel very well and iric i'll let you speak to yourself on that one but.
00:33:22.413 -->
00:33:26.653Could tell when i'm having a bad day yes is that safe to say and i think i could
00:33:26.653 -->
00:33:30.173tell when you could and when you care about somebody you learn their face and
00:33:30.173 -->
00:33:31.773their facial expressions and,
00:33:32.973 -->
00:33:39.393you know so we developed the balcony into a safe space where if one of us was having a bad day,
00:33:40.173 -->
00:33:43.413it developed i think it's just us having these long talks
00:33:43.413 -->
00:33:46.213out on our balcony and sometimes they would
00:33:46.213 -->
00:33:50.013be five minutes dude i feel like sometimes we were out there hours and
00:33:50.013 -->
00:33:52.753we would close the door and we would just sit out there and just
00:33:52.753 -->
00:33:57.913talk and we were in our early 20s we had no idea what kind of bulldozer life
00:33:57.913 -->
00:34:01.473was going to hit us with so i think if in hindsight we were to re-watch those
00:34:01.473 -->
00:34:06.633things we'd be like wow you were stupid but you know it was the honestly like
00:34:06.633 -->
00:34:10.973the best part of our friendship back in those days because i could be i mean
00:34:10.973 -->
00:34:12.113we went through breakups.
00:34:13.013 -->
00:34:16.033And hardships and struggled financially you know
00:34:16.033 -->
00:34:18.833eric one thing again without getting too mushy about
00:34:18.833 -->
00:34:22.793our friendship but like it was never like bro
00:34:22.793 -->
00:34:25.773i'm broke i don't have any money for food it would
00:34:25.773 -->
00:34:28.573be i'm going to the store what do you want to eat
00:34:28.573 -->
00:34:31.313and it was never are you
00:34:31.313 -->
00:34:34.113going to chip in i didn't ask that i said
00:34:34.113 -->
00:34:37.333i'm going to the store what do you want to eat but the
00:34:37.333 -->
00:34:39.973balcony was safe spot and we developed it to
00:34:39.973 -->
00:34:42.793this day you know to this day i can call eric
00:34:42.793 -->
00:34:46.033and be like bro i need a balcony session and at
00:34:46.033 -->
00:34:49.673that point you just let the person talk and it's
00:34:49.673 -->
00:34:52.453non-judgmental and you know it's just an
00:34:52.453 -->
00:34:58.073awesome thing so you know the balcony sessions are important i think we all
00:34:58.073 -->
00:35:03.353need people like that and you know just e you know i don't know where i'd be
00:35:03.353 -->
00:35:07.213today you know without you and balcony sessions and i'll say some more stuff
00:35:07.213 -->
00:35:10.513about you because i can i can joke about it But, you know,
00:35:10.693 -->
00:35:13.893what was your opinion and thoughts of the creation of the balcony session?
00:35:14.913 -->
00:35:20.073Yeah, pretty much the same. It was free therapy.
00:35:21.953 -->
00:35:25.713Just talk it out and, I mean, you hit the nail on the head.
00:35:25.813 -->
00:35:31.533It wasn't, I mean, we've seen each other in our highs and lows and been there
00:35:31.533 -->
00:35:37.073for breakups and beginning of relationships where we're questioning,
00:35:37.333 -->
00:35:38.873why are you even seeing this person?
00:35:39.673 -->
00:35:45.553More me than you on that one but hey man i don't want to hear that tone out of you sir,
00:35:46.413 -->
00:35:53.253but yes but anyway yeah it was great it's a great session it was great to have
00:35:53.253 -->
00:35:57.673and it's always good to have someone to talk to someone you can rely on and
00:35:57.673 -->
00:36:01.293be there and that really defines our friendship,
00:36:02.053 -->
00:36:07.973aside from the common interest is just someone there's just two friends being there for each other.
00:36:09.531 -->
00:36:13.791I and you know i just i
00:36:13.791 -->
00:36:16.471really i really value our friendship you know
00:36:16.471 -->
00:36:19.951i think we all go through different stages in life and you
00:36:19.951 -->
00:36:22.711know we give each other a lot of shit if you guys don't hear that through
00:36:22.711 -->
00:36:25.451this podcast we really do eric is right you know
00:36:25.451 -->
00:36:28.711i'm definitely like the romantic of the two of us i have
00:36:28.711 -->
00:36:32.671fallen hard for some people that did not deserve it in my life and i will continue
00:36:32.671 -->
00:36:37.531to do so unfortunately because you are what you are and you know it's what makes
00:36:37.531 -->
00:36:40.471me and eric very different because i'm definitely more the person that puts
00:36:40.471 -->
00:36:44.951themselves out there i think i'm probably more outgoing obviously i'm in sales
00:36:44.951 -->
00:36:47.291or at least i was and i've always.
00:36:47.811 -->
00:36:51.331Just kind of been a bull in a china shop when it comes into relationships so
00:36:51.331 -->
00:36:56.911like eric especially now you know anytime i tell him remotely i'm entertaining
00:36:56.911 -->
00:37:02.391a relationship i always get the same batman smacking robin meme back to me and
00:37:02.391 -->
00:37:05.631deservedly so and i know that's eric's way of calling me a stupid ass and i
00:37:05.631 -->
00:37:08.991need to stop what i'm doing and you know on the other side you know,
00:37:09.471 -->
00:37:13.191it's always you know you being like man i just kind of want to find somebody
00:37:13.191 -->
00:37:18.791and like i've been there and you know like if i ever need somebody to give me
00:37:18.791 -->
00:37:20.191an honest opinion of a situation
00:37:20.631 -->
00:37:25.431but do so in a way that i know he's not judging me he just wants to see me happy,
00:37:25.951 -->
00:37:31.071that person's you and i'm just i'm grateful for our friendship and you know
00:37:31.071 -->
00:37:33.451i know our podcasts have come and go over the years.
00:37:33.911 -->
00:37:40.031This is my favorite one we've done because it's a lot more open and honest and just fun.
00:37:40.431 -->
00:37:43.931I don't want this to feel like work. I want this to feel like I'm talking to my friend for an hour.
00:37:44.731 -->
00:37:49.131But just, yeah, Eric, you're a good dude. You really are. And I just appreciate our friendship.
00:37:49.411 -->
00:37:53.131I'm glad, you know, I wish we didn't have to pay the student loans back.
00:37:53.271 -->
00:37:57.251We have to pay back. In hindsight, I hate that neither of us have careers that we got degrees in.
00:37:57.451 -->
00:38:00.331But, dude, I would do it all over again
00:38:00.331 -->
00:38:06.591if I knew I could walk through life with a friend as good as you so i did say
00:38:06.591 -->
00:38:12.771that speech for the wedding you gotta get somebody first pal okay i'm over one
00:38:12.771 -->
00:38:17.791on that okay so you i i i've i've had my wedding shot,
00:38:18.411 -->
00:38:23.611probably never again but that's all i got to say i just i'm thankful for you
00:38:23.611 -->
00:38:27.731and i think you're a great guy and you know i'm gonna continue doing this podcast
00:38:27.731 -->
00:38:30.091as long as it's me and my friend and talking about it and having fun.
00:38:31.071 -->
00:38:34.691Yeah, I mean, I agree with all that. Yeah, I mean, you've been there.
00:38:36.304 -->
00:38:42.484Sport for your 21st birthday where I dragged you around low speedway to meet
00:38:42.484 -->
00:38:44.704up with my friend at the time.
00:38:45.164 -->
00:38:48.404Don't bring that story up. You're going to upset me after I said something nice about you.
00:38:49.384 -->
00:38:54.804But yeah. But yeah, we've been through a lot. Yeah, I mean, I would definitely do it all over again.
00:38:55.964 -->
00:38:59.124Just very, very appreciative of your friendship.
00:39:00.524 -->
00:39:04.424Always been there. No, you always will be. So, thank you.
00:39:04.884 -->
00:39:08.484Yeah, thank you for finally admitting that Emmett Smith will always be better
00:39:08.484 -->
00:39:09.504than Barry Sanders. Nope.
00:39:11.724 -->
00:39:15.324No. All right. That's, I had to throw that at you I had, man. I'm sorry.
00:39:16.364 -->
00:39:20.664But, but yeah, that, that'll wrap up this episode. I know we got a little sentimental
00:39:20.664 -->
00:39:25.244at the end that it wasn't really anything in particular, millennial,
00:39:26.164 -->
00:39:31.724but we just wanted to kind of really do a full, more intro type episode which
00:39:31.724 -->
00:39:36.164we should have done at the start, but we do promise we'll go into more millennial
00:39:36.164 -->
00:39:41.044topics next week thank you for listening and take care bye everybody.