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Welcome to Metal Helf Collectibles. I'm your host Metal Elf,
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the ELF host with the Most, and tonight I am
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joined with Flippy seven eight seven Justin Howard. How are
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you doing, Justin?
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I'm doing well, man, Thanks for having me on the show.
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Looking forward to talking about a lot of cool things
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with you, man.
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Yeah, yeah, thanks for saving bye man, appreciate it. So,
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first off, how's the land on under right now? How's
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the weather?
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It's good man, It's it's warm with like we're in
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the middle of summer, so it's We've had a lot
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of good days recently. Yeah, man, it's just chilling, you know.
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I'm I'm on holidays from university right now, so finally
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get to let all the creative juices flow on and
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just have a bit of free time to just sit
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outside and read and just yeah it's good man. How
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about you guys up there?
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Ah, Here in Michigan, it is pretty cold, yeah, starting
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probably next well this month it'll just be you know,
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cold and icy and windy. But okay, yeah, spring will
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be here soon.
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So that's good. Yeah man, I mean because because I
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was fortunate enough to go We were just talking earlier,
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but I was fortunate enough to go to Michigan twice.
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I'd never been up until last year for a gem
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Con and then Statue Coon and yeah, man, it's from
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what I saw, I only saw up until Saint Joseph.
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But from what I saw, it's a beautiful state and
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I definitely like to visit more of Michigan one day.
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Oh yeah, yeah. If you like the woods, if you
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like nature, if you like water, you'll you'll dig Michigan.
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Awesome. Yeah, I was talking with you. You were, I think
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because you said it's like the oven mit shape, you're
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sort of around more the other side.
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Yeah. Yeah, like that's what we do in Michigan. It's
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kind of shaped. And get my flip hair like a
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mit and then we we point to where we are,
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so I'm kind of in the bay right there.
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Yeah, okay, awesome. Is that is that Green Bay or
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is that a different bay?
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Green Bay would be okay, so Wisconsin would actually be
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on Okay, the camera's facing this way, so Wisconsin would
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be over here, and then and then the bay would
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be like over that way. Okay.
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Yeah. Yeah. Man, it's all it's all such a such
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so interesting. The whole area, like all the Great Lakes
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I'd love to see. And you know, it's it's cool man, Wisconsin,
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all the all the all the cities, towns, and.
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There's a lot of history, I think, you know, and
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then you got you like shipping, So the Edmond that's
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year old, right. I think we talked about that on
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Instagram one time.
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That's right, yeah, yeah, because I remember it was the
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fiftieth anniversary of that, and that that like usually I
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know about all like you know, ocean and like lake
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shipping history anniversaries and things, but that that once not
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coup on me, and I was like, wow, fifty years
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and I got like I heard the song everywhere on reels,
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and I like, I ended up really liking the song.
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I downloaded it. I was listening to it a lot,
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you know, around that time and since then as well.
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And but yeah, and it's like just because the design,
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you know, all the ships and like the way trade
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routes have gone. And yeah, it's interesting man, because it's
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like because here, because you know, in Australia we've got
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some interesting history as well, but it's just the population, man,
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it's just we like and also we've started a bit
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like a lot after America. So you guys have got
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the like, you know, more time, you've had more time,
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you've had bigger population, and so yeah, so you guys
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have got a little bit more on us with the
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history in those regards. But but yeah, but it's all
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cool either way. You know, I love it all. It's
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it's awesome man.
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Oh yeah, yeah, Australia history is very interesting to me,
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especially since it started out as a penal colony for
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the British.
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That's right.
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Yeah, a lot of people don't know that. I mean
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people were asking me. They're like, you know that guy
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at Statue Kan with the cowboy hat, is he from
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Great Britain or is he with Red Titan. I'm like, no, no,
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I mean it's right, you sound a little bit British,
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I know the dam But other people who don't watch
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like cinema from around the world, it probably just sounds
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English to them, you know what I mean.
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Yeah, no, I get that definitely, Like I've it's funny
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you say that, actually because I never really like noticed
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that about myself how I talk until like actually, like
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because a few years ago I was working like here
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in Australia and it's like this guy who is Australian.
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He thought I was British and I was like what.
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He comes to me and he's like, so, what part
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of the UK you from. I'm like, no, I'm from here.
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And he was Australian and he thought I was British,
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so that was yeah. So so I definitely get it.
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Like two Americans too, people around the world, I must
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sound very British, so I get I hear that for sure.
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And I don't think we have a whole lot of
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exposure to Australians, right and any Australians we do like
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they sound American eye by them. Chris Hemsworth, Nicole Kidman
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like yeah, I mean while she just kind of sounds
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British or even American.
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Mel Gibson as well, he's aussy but like he like
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he doesn't even like talk Ozzie at all. Like I
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hear him talk completely American accent.
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Yeah see who else Kylie Minogue. I'm trying to pick
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Australians here, but yeah, yeah, there's.
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A few great ones out there. There's Baz Luhrman, great director. Yeah. Man,
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would you like to visit Australia one day?
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Oh definitely, definitely, Yeah.
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You would like the history man, we've we've got some
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good museums, some great there's a lot of metal fans,
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you know out here, there's like metal is huge. By
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the way, I wore my my most metal shirt today.
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Very nice.
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It's Gears of War four. I got it special when
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I when I pre ordered it back in that was
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ten years ago, now twenty sixteen. Yeah cool, yeah, man,
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meddle it up for you. Yeah man, I mean yeah,
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we'd be happy to have you down here in Australia anytime.
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You know, it's it's crazy as well because like Australia
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is like around like geographically it's the same size as America.
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But yeah, just because most of it's desert. You know,
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people really only live around the coasts and yeah, yeah, you.
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Know, well that's why I smile, because most of it's
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basically uninhabitable.
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M hmm. Yeah.
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You know, you got what some some kind of bush
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or aboriginal folks, but for the most part, it's around
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the coast, right.
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M hmm, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah man, And it's and
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it's just like flat desert, which is just you know,
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ray real red red soil, arid because it's because obviously
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in America you've got like the states like Arizona, Utah,
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Like there's desert there, right, but it's sort of like,
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you know, I don't really know too much about geographical terms,
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but it's like a different desert. I think there's more
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there's like it's not as barren. I think, you know,
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because people still live there. Like there's a lot of
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people living in in all those states, Utah and Avada.
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Yeah, damn man, they're they're able to be developed right
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to a certain point.
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Yeah, yeah, I guess obviously, Like like I said earlier,
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like you guys have got more more time on us.
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So I think maybe that's a part of it too.
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Maybe maybe in maybe two hundred years, there'll be a
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lot more people living in the desert. I don't know.
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That could be that could be the next move terraform Australia. Yeah,
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we will the deserts, that's right.
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Actually, that's good. We could be the perfect prototype start
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on it, start in the desert of Australia and if
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that works, onto Mars.
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Yeah, all we need is like some Saudi oil money.
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Look at Dubai what they built out of, you know,
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a giant sandpit.
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So m hmm, that's true.
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We've got to find some investors, bro, that's right.
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Yeah, I guess. I guess when there's a will, there's
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a way. Because yeah, you raise a good point.
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I'll be dropping the link to the ghost on me
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in the bottom. If you want to help us, you know,
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solve the world's problems.
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Awesome, I'm getting them now. Happy to happy to help out, man,
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happy to help out, you know the And that's what's
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cool about your your channel, your your social media is
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that you're always promoting you know, fellow artists and you know,
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I think things you things you think is cool, you
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know which I love and it's yeah, man, I rock
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with it for sure.
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Appreciate it, man, appreciate it. It's nice to know somebody's uh,
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watching and interacting to you know. First, you're an artist,
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so it's like first you got to kind of do
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it for yourself. Mm hmm.
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Definitely not.
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But speaking of that, you said you are going to university.
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What is your major.
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Well, I'm currently studying a it's a Bachelor of Creative Arts,
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specializing in visual how is it, it's ved so it's
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a visual visual entertainment design. Basically, forget what the second
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he is. But yeah, entertainment, design of the visual like
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you know, concept art and the animation, a character design,
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you know, all things. There's there's a lot to it.
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So it's a lot of work. And I'm heading into
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my final year now, so it's going to be a
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big year. But but yeah, it's good man. I've learned
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a lot and it's it sort of just fell into
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my into my lap man. It's funny how life happens sometimes,
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you know. I had never planned to go to university,
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but but yeah, I ended up hearing about the course
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and it was like the best course in Australia to
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do for your money. And yeah, man, like already, if
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I stop now, I think I'd be set for like
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because eventually I'd like to become a comic book artist
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and get into that industry concept art or things like that.
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And but yeah, man, yeah I've learned a lot, and
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but yeah that's the plan.
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And yeah, so which which different mediums have you worked
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with and what's your favorite?
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Well, I used to be I used to be predominantly
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like just like free hands, like traditional drawing, pencil on paper.
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Pen on paper was actually my main thing. I would
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just use just go crazy with the ballpoint pen on paper.
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And but yeah, since starting university, I got heavy into
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digitally drawing on Photoshop with the with the tablet, which
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I never thought I would be able to, like, you know,
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make that transition, but I actually did. It's funny how
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the brain works, because I just thought, you know, I
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thought I would have to look at what I was drawing.
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But it's funny once you just get used to it.
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You know, you can just because you're drawing the pad
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and you're looking at the screen here, so you're not
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actually looking at what your hand is doing. Yeah, And
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I thought I wouldn't be able to make that, you know, leap,
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but it just came to me.
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Yeah, okay, yeah, you just gotta retrain your brain a bit, right, exactly. Yeah,
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because they do have those, they have the graphics tablets
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that are just a pad, and then they also have
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but they're a bit more expensive and actual like display
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out in them you can see.
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What you're.
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But I was looking at one of those, man, and
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like the cheapest one and in the smallest size is
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about three point fifty and that was a very limited
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option one.
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Yeah, yeah, you're telling me, And I mean, like, yeah,
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because I only just got the basic entry level one.
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It was just one hundred dollars just tablet which which
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just connects hooks up to your screen and you and
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you look at the screen. But yeah, like you said,
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there's ones that you can that has a screen in itself.
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Plus you can do those like an apple pen like
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drawing the tablet as well. Yeah, but but yeah, there's
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once you go into it like there's a whole there's
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a whole thing for it.
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Man.
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Yeah, for sure. How about you? I was that was
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gonna be my question because you're a great artist as well.
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From what I've seen, you've done those like thank you
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those I forget the word for it. But it's like
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the metal plate and you you do all.
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That oh I etching, I guess yeah right, yeah, yeah,
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I did that one a long time ago. That was. Yeah,
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there are so many different things I would love to do,
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but it's a it's a material and training kind of thing.
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Uh sure, no, good comics. Thanks for stopping by. Justin
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appreciate it man, his name is Justin too Well, yeah
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it is, it is, Yeah, I believe so.
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If not, I'm sorry, man, I had to pull up
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the chat. I didn't say the first but yeah, some
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guys anyone who joins the chat as well.
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Yeah, thank you for anyone watching on the repay replay.
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Oh back to it. Yeah, I started pencils and inks
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when when, uh, when I was just a little kid.
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And then.
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Recently I've started painting acrylic and watercolor. I would love
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to try oil and guash.
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But oil.
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Have you worked with oil a little bit?
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Anny a little bit? Yeah, it's definitely different to a crilic.
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Yeah, a lot messier, definitely, right. You got drying times.
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Exactly, Yeah, they take so long to dry, it's crazy.
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Yeah, I think watercolor might be my favorite. I just
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it's so relaxing working with it. Acrylic it's not as fluid,
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and and I get I get pissed off when I'm
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working with it a lot of times, Like just to
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be honest with you, Yeah, watercolor, I can add more,
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I can move it around, I can let it dry
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and then add more, whereas a crylic you got a
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layer right over it.
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It's yeah, yeah, for sure, man. I mean that's that's
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good though, Like if you're pissed that you're out or
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you know, then that's then that's I think like letting
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you know that that's your that's your process, and that's
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good because like because it's better than it's a bitter
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to be like what you've done and then think how
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can I make it better? You know, as opposed to
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just to just doing it once and then you're like, yes,
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I did the best thing. It's it's not really good
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to have that mentality. It's good to it's good to
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be hard on yourself and like make the best artwork,
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artwork you can do. That's good. Man.
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I don't I don't have a choice in the matter.
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That's how my brain works. Like, if I'm going to
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do anything, I'm going to do it right. And if
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I'm going to put my art out there, which this
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is kind of new for me, putting putting myself out there,
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you know, publicly even sharing my art, but I want
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it to be good if if other eyes are going
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to be on.
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It, that's right. Yeah, Yeah, there's that whole thing as well,
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that if you know, yeah, if people looking at it,
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you want to make sure because especially man, I mean
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on Instagram just alone, you know, it's like there's so
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many good artists and art out there. It's like really,
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it's it's pretty what's the word, it's like.
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Intimidating.
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Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's it's pretty intimidating to see
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all that and you're like, oh, man, I gotta like
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step it up. Yeah.
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I got into some artist groups in the Facebook groups
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that were worldwide to start with. It's like when one
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is called like dark Circle Art, it's kind of fantasy,
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dark surrealism and stuff. But I'm looking at these guys
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from Brazil and like the level of detail that they
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put in it's mind blowing, Like and if I'm to
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try to compare myself to that, like forget it right,
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I'll do the best I can.
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Now you've like if I didn't say your od, it's
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really good man, Like you're you're definitely talented. You've got
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that eye like you said, you know, you can see
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your you can pick up details and you know, and yeah,
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like you said, like, it's like sometimes as an honest
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it's a bit of a nightmare because you just don't
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let yourself like finish until it's finished. Yeah. Man, I
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definitely that's the feeling. I know as well, because it's
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like there are tons of I can't even tell you
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how many art like artworks I've started, which in my head,
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I was like just a little sketch, you know, just
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a casual little thing, and it ended up going so
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much longer because I was like it just made it
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into like a whole, massive, bigger artwork. Then it started
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out as and yeah, just but yeah, that's that's the
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world of being an artist.
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I guess it's not a horrible problem to have, Like
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it keeps you occupied. I suppose m definitely, but I
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could definitely relate. During the pandemic. I was trying to
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do just even you know, five minutes of sketching a day, right,
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just sit down and put the put the pen to paper.
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And I would do the same thing with like a
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ballpoint pen, you know. Oh, I'm just gonna make some doodles, right,
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and then like three days later, I've got this like
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whole thing. And the problem is is that you start
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to sketch on a crappy piece of paper, and then
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when you try to keep going and adding and adding,
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like the paper is shredded by the time you're done.
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Yeah. True, there you go, man, Yeah, I remember that
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problem as well. Yeah, it's yeah, and the you're you know,
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the materials that you use as well is like a
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huge factor as well. It's crazy, man, hum, huge, huge.
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That's good. So it was a bit of a creative
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time for you during the pandemic, then you'd say.
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Yeah, definitely, that's I was painting at home, drawing. I
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learned how to cook. Oh that's another thing. I don't know.
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I really like cooking. It's kind of like art. I
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get to eat, making all these colorful vegetables, different colors
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of spices and wow. Yeah, my neighbor would laugh at me,
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it's like you would, you would make hamburger, helper and art.
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I'm just like, because I don't know, like you're presenting
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it as well, because like you need to make it
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eye a pleasing too, right.
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So definitely, yeah, Now that's a whole awfulm as well,
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cooking and food as well. Yeah, And it's a great, great,
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fantastic skill to have, you know. It's like, you know,
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if you're rather like a gathering, it's like metal on
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the food, you know. I don't know, are there any
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foods in particular which like your favorites to make and
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or like favorites in general?
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I make a lot of stir fry nice, yeah, because
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I can add whatever kind of protein I want whatever,
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you know, sauces or spices. You can take the same
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kind of and sometimes it's out of necessity, right, Like
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I'll get bored with just the staple ingredients I have.
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But you can take a protein a start, you know whatever,
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and then add certain spices and you can go from
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Italian to Mexican.
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That's right, exactly.
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Yeah, you cook it all.
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Not really, no, but but yeah, that's definitely something that
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it's Yeah, I'm a bit envious because yeah, it's like
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it's a it's a great thing to do. Like, yeah,
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I just it hasn't really entered my my thing of
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interest yet, but I think I think eventually it will
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because yeah, like you know, I guess eventually, living on
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your own, you know, you've got to cook yourself. So
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that's something I could see myself definitely hitting up that
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whole world of artistry of cooking basically.
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And you would probably go head first, right.
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Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Well, actually, yesterday or a few days ago,
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I just got the The Avatar Cookbook, which I don't
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even know there was, and it's like we're flicking through
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it and there's like I don't have it here in
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the shelf. But but yeah, i'd show you, but like
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it's yeah, it's it's cool man. Like there's a lot
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of all different, like you know, meals which are like
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you know, inspired by like characters and all these things,
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and it's like, yeah, definitely, I'm going to be hitting
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this book up. Just when I was looking through, I'm like,
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I'm definitely going to be making a lot in this eventually.
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Yeah, I'm sure it's got lots of cool themed names
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and a lot of blue food coloring, I would assume, Yeah.
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Definitely, yeah, using some of them was some of them
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was like a one was like a like a pokey
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bowl and it had like little blue eminem's in it,
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and oh yeah, but yeah, a lot of blue stuff
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like that. Yeah, for sure.
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That's what I love about those is the blue. It's
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my favorite color.
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So oh awesome. Yeah, Well because that's a good segue
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into Avatar. But so you've you have not seen Avatar?
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Is that right? Or have you?
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I've seen the first one?
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Okay, yeah, because I remember we were talking at Satchukan
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and I think it was the second one you.
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Hadn't seen, right, Yeah, I haven't seen the second and
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what the third one's out now? Right? Fire and ash
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is it.
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Yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah, man, I think, well that's
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why I bring it up because I think, honestly, like
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you would really like the sequels because it's like because
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if you like the first one, it's because man, science
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fiction is my main thing. That's why all my like
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all my interests is based on science fiction. Like that's
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why a lot of Aliens, what else, like Halo, you know,
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or anything that's sci fi. Like I love fantasy as well,
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but I just haven't got huge into that yet, and
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I was hoping we would talk a bit about that
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as well, because like there's a lot of cool thing
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in fantasy, which I was hoping you would recommend, or
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sci fi.
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Man, I'm a big reader exactly, well, probably science and
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my science fiction has to be science y, right, Like
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there has to be a level of actual science within
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the science fiction. You can't just like if it's gonna
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be like silly sign monsters, Okay, right, I'm gonna lose,
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but you gotta give me something behind it, like even
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if it's only like half true, you know, I can
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make the leap of faith into science fiction.
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Definitely. Well, and that's what's cool about advertised, like because
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it's like obviously there is a lot of fantasy which
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is not actually like like as sciencey, but there is
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a lot of actual science you know as well, Like
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there are vehicles that they use, you know, like the
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creatures all the or in fauna and like the plants,
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the animals. All of it is really inspired by like
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obviously real things on Earth. And yeah, and so like
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because did you see I was I was hoping to
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maybe pick your brain like about those science aspects about avatar.
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Of what the foliage or just.
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All of it. Like of course they've got the avatars
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as well, like the link bed and how they do
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the whole like the brain like science with that as well.
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Yeah, that was when when you said science, That's where
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my mind went to was how they actually get in
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the tube and you know, connect to the avatar body.
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That that's the sciencey part to me. And then they're
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also going on we just we discussed this, you know
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over at Statue kind a little bit, but they're they're
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kind of reinventing some of the right and then tying it.
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He's tying it together with real world problems of course, Yeah,
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which I like you've got what it's basically the tree
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of life on Pandora, and and that's what the humans
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are are trying to cut down and take away a
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correct pretty much.
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Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's like you said, it's definitely
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a lot of themes of like colonialism and like ye, displacement, deforestation,
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you know, environment, all those real life things. That's and
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it's I'm glad you bring that up, actually, because yeah,
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it's that's very heavy within the franchise and the like
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all of all of the expanded law of the whole
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the whole series actually, but what I love about it
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as well is that there's those and there's also like
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the story and the deeper meaning even beyond that, which
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is like that there's because on the surface level, it
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might look like that, you know, these these blue aliens
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are now but you're good and humans all humans are
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just bad. But really the deeper meaning is that, you know,
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Jake Sully, the main character, the leader of the resistance,
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you know, the one that's the one that breaks off
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from the corrupt humans, he is a human and so
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really it's about like it's about hope in humanity really
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and coming together, bridging together. That's like I definitely recommend
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the sequels, you know, the third one is really heavy
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on that theme as well. And yeah, it's and of course,
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like but I mean, you know, I don't want to
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bore you, but like I could talk about it for
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so long, Like there's the soundtrack, there's so many like
479
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:47.519
you know, all the art, Like there's so much concept
480
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.279
that which goes into each thing, you know, each piece
481
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.960
of clothing that they wear. Then they'll beware each item
482
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:59.720
is like meticulously handcrafted and it's like beautifully made. And yeah,
483
00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:01.839
it's no wonder why these movies take so long to make,
484
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.839
because each little thing that you see, you know, spent
485
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.039
like there was like at least like hundreds of I
486
00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:09.119
was spent on that little thing.
487
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:16.400
Yeah, I've watched a few little documentaries about it. I'm
488
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:20.480
big into like special effects. When I was a kid,
489
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.119
that was one of the things I wanted to go
490
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:25.240
into with special effects and graphic design so I could
491
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:30.480
make movie posters and that kind of stuff. Get my
492
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:36.319
sixth grade science fair project was about special effects. Like
493
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:38.920
I made a mock up model and then you would
494
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:40.920
look through the hole so you could see the scene.
495
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.720
And I had like this little model airplane, like a
496
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:50.160
fighter jet, and clouds were moving, and yeah, so that's
497
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:53.839
always been an interest in mine. But to watch the
498
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:58.920
behind the scenes the vision that he had for Avatar,
499
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:04.200
like the whole, the whole story that was already I guess.
500
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:06.000
I guess that was the other thing. Like he had
501
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:08.680
been forming this story since the early seventies.
502
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:10.079
That's right.
503
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:14.240
He had design sketches like from when he was a teenager.
504
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:17.640
Basically like this has been in him. This is his
505
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:19.839
dream project, right, that's.
506
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:23.160
Right, Yeah, yeah, exactly right. Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned
507
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:25.799
that because yeah, it's yeah, he's been doing that. He
508
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:28.079
like he's had the idea for a really long time, yeat,
509
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.359
Like he had like the paintings he painted up, like
510
00:29:31.400 --> 00:29:35.400
the bio luminescent forests in like seventy three I think
511
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.079
was his painting of that one. He did another one
512
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.720
called another painting called Xenogenesis, which was like I think
513
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:46.039
seventy eight, which had like a blue woman and and
514
00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:49.599
I think that's what I've seen exactly. Yeah. And there's
515
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.039
but like this themes from all of his movies in
516
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:57.119
that one, particularly like this cyborg so like Terminator, you know,
517
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:01.640
weapon like futuristic weaponry like you see in alien, yeah, man,
518
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.119
and it's and it's crazy too, like because and the
519
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.759
whole spiritual thing, you know, I get really behind as well,
520
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.960
because he like he himself, you know, like and the
521
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.079
beauty of it too is like no matter what religion
522
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.079
you are, it's like it's like you can have that spirituality.
523
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:21.039
And like, you know, his ideas like where did they
524
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.599
come from? You know? I for me personally, I've got
525
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.440
no doubt that his ideas come from higher up because
526
00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:30.079
he like when he was when he was on tour
527
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.119
for his first ever movie, technically Piranha Too This Morning,
528
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:36.680
which was like a bad movie and he like hates
529
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.440
any anyone who mentions it. He doesn't want to remember
530
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.960
that that period. But when he was on like when
531
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.480
he was in Italy for the for like the promo
532
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.640
period of that movie in like eighty two, and he
533
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:53.720
had a dream of this metal skeleton you know, standing
534
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.640
on like a on like a mountain of fire, and
535
00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.319
that was Terminator and he turned that, he turned that
536
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:02.960
dream into not just a movie, and that like catapulted
537
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.319
his whole career. But like also that actual vision he
538
00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:09.200
turned that into like an actual scene as well, like
539
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:18.519
I've actually got I'll get it real quick his terminator. Sorry,
540
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:24.200
let me just look for it. Oh man, I'm blanking. Yeah,
541
00:31:24.240 --> 00:31:30.160
there it is the Alex Ross just like that basically.
542
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:35.279
Ah yeah, that is so killer man. Yeah. I think
543
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.240
that's some of Alex Ross's first work.
544
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.720
Too, exactly. Yeah, and so yeah, and James Cameron as well,
545
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.160
he did a painting just like that. But yeah, and
546
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:47.319
it's but the point of that I was making was like, yeah,
547
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:50.319
that these ideas same with you know, like you look
548
00:31:50.359 --> 00:31:53.519
at these other grade artists too, like like Chris Martin
549
00:31:53.599 --> 00:31:57.359
from Coldplaying, my favorite band. He like his song ideas
550
00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:59.960
come from dreams as well. And that's like, man, you know,
551
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.119
these great these greats, they these ideas, they just come
552
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:07.799
to them, and it's it's it's interesting, man, It's.
553
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:11.640
I literally just I'm kind of getting goosebumps right now
554
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.880
because I literally just had this conversation two days ago
555
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.920
with the person and I was I was referencing Stephen
556
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:23.799
King and yeah, even John Carpenter because I'm watching They Live.
557
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.599
I got a movie review coming up, and then we
558
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:32.160
did like The Running Man, and I was discussing how
559
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:34.559
a lot of these and and a lot of the
560
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.960
books I've read they end up being prophetic, right, and
561
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:44.440
exactly like you're saying, they come from dreams, like Stephen
562
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.440
King's novels come from dreams.
563
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:51.480
There you go, well, yeah, exactly. Man, He's another great
564
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:52.079
Stephen King.
565
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:52.319
Man.
566
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:56.079
I mean, I let's talk about him, because, like, I'm
567
00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.839
sure you've read have you read any of his books?
568
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:05.880
Nah, I've read pet Cemetery. I like his ideas. As
569
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.079
far as him as an author, it the pros is
570
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.599
a little bit too much for me. I guess I'm
571
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.000
I'm a little closer to Clive Barker. I don't need
572
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.720
eight pages to describe the outside of this creepy house. Like,
573
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:20.319
I get it, let's fucking get on with it. But
574
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:22.359
I do love the guy no matter what.
575
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.880
Yeah, yeah, for sure, Okay, Yeah, Like, well, because i
576
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:32.599
I'm like, I've only I just like I have been
577
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:34.680
like a fan of his for a while. When the
578
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.279
New It movie came out back in twenty seventeen, I
579
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:41.200
started reading it, but I never finished it. But last
580
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.880
year I got huge into Carry. I watched the movie
581
00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.759
Carry from the seventies and yeah, and I read because
582
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.920
that was his first book, and so I read that
583
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.400
whole book. It was and that was really good. That's
584
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:54.319
the only one I've read so far. But I've got
585
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.920
I've got a few more, like I've got Christine, you know,
586
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:02.079
pet Cemetery. I want to get that and read that,
587
00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.599
like Salem's Lot. There's of course the Shining. There's many
588
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.480
which I want to read. But so I don't know,
589
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:11.559
like about his later work, if it's really that different
590
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:13.480
or not. It might be what you're saying, like maybe
591
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:16.280
he goes like more to like more detailed than what
592
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:18.960
I've seen. But yeah, at least for Carrie, I really
593
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.480
enjoyed and I really like that, like the way he
594
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.800
describes things, and and yeah, I didn't think it was
595
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:26.320
too much, but yeah, I'll have to keep an eye
596
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:30.079
out for if if because people's people's cells of writing
597
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:30.880
change as they go.
598
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:34.639
Yeah, well that's almost like a novella, right, Like Harry
599
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:40.239
Is is like that big, whereas some of the other
600
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:43.639
novels are you know, like that are going to take
601
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:47.039
you a year and exactly that's the ones that I'm
602
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:50.159
just like, all right, and I'm not opposed to reading
603
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.519
long things, but you've got to be able to you know,
604
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:52.960
hook me.
605
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:56.840
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, And that's the thing about novels,
606
00:34:56.880 --> 00:35:02.159
Like I like, I've had I've novels for ages, and
607
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.840
I've been reading you know, some here and there. But
608
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.119
at the end of last year I really started, excuse me,
609
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:14.800
like Carrie really started. Carrie really catapulted me reading novels again.
610
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:18.559
Like and it's interesting, like you said, like they they're
611
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:23.480
a cool thing because they you know, you because obviously
612
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:27.960
reading a book, you get to imagine and build the
613
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.760
world and the details of like in your head, like
614
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.000
how you would do it, yep, and and I really
615
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:38.840
like that aspect. And and just for that reason alone,
616
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:42.440
I've held off of I've held off on watching more
617
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:44.320
Stephen King movies because I'm like, actually I want to
618
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:47.039
I want to read the books first and see but yeah,
619
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.519
and but but the only thing with that, though, is
620
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:54.360
that depending on how big they are, they take up
621
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:56.719
Like you're in You're in books for the You're in
622
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.920
novels for the long haul. You know. It's not like
623
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.639
comic book or you know, a movie or a TV
624
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.519
show where you can pretty much finish it, you know,
625
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.840
within you know, an hour or the day or the
626
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:12.320
week or whatever. You know, like movie, sorry, books, you're
627
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:15.280
really in them for at least a month really depending
628
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:20.679
on how how big they are. At least oh yeah, yeah.
629
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:24.239
It takes a different training too, Like I got out
630
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:26.480
of reading for a while and then like it takes
631
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.679
a different concentration to get back into it. But I'm
632
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:31.320
glad I did.
633
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.519
It's like a learning curve, isn't it. It's like it's
634
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:39.239
like the skill of getting good at reading books. You know,
635
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:41.519
it doesn't seem like much, but yeah, it's like there's
636
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:43.920
this that's skill as well, like and it has a
637
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.039
learning curve where you like, once you find the flow,
638
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:47.960
you know, they just it just keeps coming.
639
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:54.199
I think it's very helpful with your attention span because
640
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.800
you're you're you're almost centering yourself. You're quieting your body,
641
00:36:57.880 --> 00:37:00.800
and then you're just trying to you know, observe and listen.
642
00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.719
Almost you're reading, but you're you're really listening to yourself,
643
00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:09.519
and you're reading the clues of what you're reading exactly exactly.
644
00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:13.079
That's You're like, you're exactly like we're in the same wavelength.
645
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:14.960
Like that's what I was trying to say, but like
646
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:19.000
I I didn't know about the right words, but exactly, yeah,
647
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:23.440
that's that's exactly what I was trying to say. It is,
648
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.760
it's it's it's like it's almost like meditation. Really.
649
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.880
Yeah, yeah, that's that's very close to it. Yeah that's
650
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:31.639
a good point man.
651
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:35.239
Yeah. Yeah, it's cool, man. And this is what I
652
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:39.599
love about the world of art, not just art, but
653
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:42.000
even just the world. Really, Like I i'd say, I
654
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:45.159
have a really optimistic view about life and the world
655
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:48.199
really like and yeah, and things like that. They really
656
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.159
just make me think, you know, we've got like there's
657
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.840
a lot out there which is just like a gift
658
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:57.239
really like it's you know, and and really it goes
659
00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:59.400
both ways, right. It's a tragedy too when I see
660
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.039
it so many people nowadays, you know, we're talking about
661
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:04.760
this at gem Con. You know, we've got so much
662
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:08.159
technology and so much easy access to everything. You would
663
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:11.719
think that the creativity and everything would be at an
664
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:15.519
all time high, but really it's actually much lower than
665
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:17.800
you know, I would like it to be. Like, you know,
666
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:20.199
I feel like you and me, who really people who
667
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:24.159
really get it, who really see see the most like
668
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:27.719
an avatar, I see you. You know, we see deeper
669
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:31.360
into the world. You know, there's so much more, and
670
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:34.079
it's a shame because it's a tragedy really that most
671
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:35.239
people don't really see that.
672
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:41.199
Well spoken man, well spoken. I think it's not just
673
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:44.280
the big picture, but with artists, it's the little details,
674
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:48.559
like we notice the fine little details and we're bringing
675
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:53.199
everything in all at once, like big, big scope and
676
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:58.559
little scope, you know, exactly, Yeah, very introspective kind of
677
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:02.880
people there. There's so much beauty. I love that man, Like,
678
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:05.599
with so much negativity, we need to focus on the
679
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:11.360
beauty and possibilities, like exactly possibilities if we came together.
680
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:13.519
And and I'm gonna do an a d D thing
681
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:19.280
and tie it back to Avatar here. But what I
682
00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:23.800
the the theme that I pulled from the movie was
683
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:29.280
two things really and I haven't watched the two after,
684
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:32.800
but just with the names of it, to me, it's
685
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.159
it's about the world connection, right, You're going through the
686
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:40.119
different elements, and what it's showing you is that everything
687
00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:48.320
is connected, right, species, land, water, air bugs, and then
688
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:52.719
you've got species connecting like literally connecting with one another
689
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.920
with the Braids right with their riders, and and then
690
00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:03.880
the other thing is with Jake Sully's role, I think
691
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.280
is what it's trying to show is that when you
692
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:11.000
and they're not human, right, but I'm going to use
693
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:16.280
the term dehumanize when you dehumanize other species that they're
694
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:20.519
less or that they're not as intelligent, they're not as worthy,
695
00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:26.239
like and you use resources as a justification for taking that. Like,
696
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:29.480
I think that's what he's trying to show, is that like, hey,
697
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:32.559
we're different, but it doesn't mean you're superior just because
698
00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:37.360
you have guns in an army. And Jake Sully's there
699
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:42.639
to show empathy, like he has integrated himself and sees like, hey,
700
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:48.159
these beings they have families, they are connected, and they're
701
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:48.760
not evil.
702
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.920
Yeah, that's exactly exactly, No, I agree one hundred percent.
703
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:57.400
And he was a marine, you know, so he was
704
00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.360
like really part of that jaw head like mentality of
705
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:05.119
fighting wars. I mean he was like, like, I hope
706
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:09.440
one day we get more expanded like comics or novels,
707
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.280
you know about that whole aspect of it. But yeah,
708
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:15.639
like because Earth in that period of time is ruled
709
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:20.119
by not governments. Basically, it's basically corporations. You know, the
710
00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:24.039
the RDA, which is the corporation on Pandora. They represent
711
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.440
everything that's corrupt about humanity. They're the most corrupt. They
712
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.559
don't care about then RB they're they're for the resources,
713
00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:33.719
you know. And the where I was going with that
714
00:41:33.760 --> 00:41:37.119
earlier before sorry, was Jake Sally. He like he was
715
00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:41.719
a marine. He fought in conflicts in the resource wars basically,
716
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:43.679
and we don't know too much about it, but basically
717
00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.079
it's like World War III or like you know, these
718
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:52.079
conflicts basically in future Earth, which are based they're ruled
719
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.480
by the world is ruled by resources because the Earth
720
00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:00.679
is dying and people don't care about you know, you know,
721
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:03.119
the things that we care about now really like it's
722
00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:06.280
or like you know, in the past, like by that point,
723
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.960
it's all about resources. You know. It's like these these
724
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:11.920
governments and these corporations are all fighting for these resources.
725
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:16.039
So they there's like conflicts in Venezuela and in Nigeria,
726
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.119
all those ones they mentioned, and so and that's how
727
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.000
Jake Sally lost his legs for fighting in those conflicts.
728
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.800
And then yeah, then he then he is able to
729
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:28.000
go to Pandora. And at first he is still in
730
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:31.800
that jar head mentality, but then he really sees and
731
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:35.800
and and in such a beautiful way as well, because
732
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.400
because he doesn't have the use of his legs, you know,
733
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.679
going into an avatar body who has legs, like he
734
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.559
can use legs. Again, he's able to run and do
735
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:48.280
all these things. Again, that is also like a catalyst
736
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:51.639
for him being able to like basically be reborn and
737
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.199
like new eyes, like he's like seeing everything with new eyes,
738
00:42:55.239 --> 00:43:01.360
literally with big yellow eyes. And yeah, man, exactly exactly
739
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:06.519
as you say, yeah, because they but yeah, I mean yeah,
740
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:10.480
like I could talk about it for ages, but those
741
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:14.480
they're really good points that you that you raise. Definitely, like, Man,
742
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:17.440
definitely watch the next two because I think you'd really
743
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:20.199
like that that they they do branch, they build upon
744
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:23.039
the things that you said in different ways. I think.
745
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.000
You know, some people, people that don't look deep into enough,
746
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.559
like like like that you and I do. People like that.
747
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:33.079
They say that's just the same story over and over again.
748
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:36.000
To that, I say, it's not at all, because it's
749
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:41.559
like you've got all these new characters. They like, it's
750
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:43.679
like Star Wars or you know, Lord of the Rings,
751
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.840
are all these like stories, right, it's good versus evil, right,
752
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.760
of course, it's kind of the main core story repeated.
753
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:53.280
But you know the difference is the details. Like you said,
754
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:57.559
it's it's what each one can like afterwards is about
755
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.360
you know, it's like you've got these new car does
756
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.960
this new music to go with those characters and what
757
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.440
those mean, you know, building upon that story and also
758
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:11.639
being new and original and yeah, man, it's good.
759
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:19.360
Different landscapes, different creatures, right, a whole different setting. I'm
760
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:20.599
definitely going to check them out.
761
00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:20.760
Man.
762
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:25.280
Yeah. The run time sometimes is a bit intimidating. Now
763
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:28.400
I'll be you know, scrolling through and just be like
764
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:29.679
do I really have this?
765
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:33.880
Of course? Yeah, they are very long.
766
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.559
Yeah, I'll sit there and watch a YouTube live for
767
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:39.039
you know, three hours, so.
768
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.480
Why yeah, yeah exactly if you can do that for sure.
769
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:45.760
And it's funny because like once you get into it.
770
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:48.880
For me, like I've seen Fire and Ash the third
771
00:44:48.880 --> 00:44:52.719
one nine times now, it is literally to me it's
772
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.400
such a short movie. Like I know that sounds really crazy.
773
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:57.960
It's like three hours of like fifteen minutes or like
774
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:01.000
seventeen or something like that. Yeah, Like I watch it
775
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:03.360
and I'm like, this movie flies by for me because
776
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:07.719
it's like because all that because like for me, there's
777
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.239
because it's packed with so much. But For me, it's
778
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:13.039
like it's even not enough, like some things I wish
779
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:15.800
were more built upon, you know, because I'm that into
780
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:22.199
the law and yeah, man, but but I wanted it exactly. Yeah,
781
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.119
I understand for most people though it is long. You
782
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:27.639
just gotta like everything. It's a learning curve, you know,
783
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:29.039
you just gotta just gotta build up to it.
784
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:33.360
Yeah, it's on the queue, man, for sure.
785
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:39.599
Yeah. Sure, but so fantasy. So I had written up
786
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:41.800
a few things that I would like to ask you
787
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.880
about actually, and one of them was because on your
788
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.679
shorts or your YouTube shorts, you were talking about how
789
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:53.000
when you grew up, you know, you read these cool
790
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:57.320
fantasy books with beautiful art, and how like you said
791
00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.920
you wanted to do you wanted to get into like
792
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.320
poster designed because man, when you were grown up, they
793
00:46:02.360 --> 00:46:06.039
had the best movie posters. Yeah, you've got the I
794
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:09.119
think the Army of Darkness one or Evil did too
795
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:11.199
with like the Skull. I've always loved that one, you know,
796
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:14.400
because they were painted. You know. So if you could,
797
00:46:14.519 --> 00:46:16.679
if you could, like maybe tell me a bit about
798
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.400
like your inspiration and you when you're growing up in
799
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.480
like fantasy and all that like art.
800
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:26.280
That that really started. I had an uncle, uh, I
801
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:30.480
was really close with that lived next door, and he
802
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.440
kind of started me with a lot of stuff fantasy wise.
803
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.800
He had well, the novels that I that I showed
804
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.599
off in the short those were actually his. He had
805
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:47.280
given me awesome But I guess I was fortunate enough.
806
00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.880
He had a lot of magazines. I mean, he had
807
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:56.039
like hr Giger art books, So I don't know how
808
00:46:56.079 --> 00:47:03.880
many times I've read the heavy metal illustrated version of Aliens. Yea,
809
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:07.440
that was one of the first, so like Creepy and
810
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:13.000
Eerie Magazine, Famous Monsters, and he was an amazing artist himself.
811
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:16.440
Like it just blows me away.
812
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:21.719
Really, Yeah, that's cool man, That's that's great to have
813
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:25.119
like a family member, which is so such an inspiration
814
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:25.559
like that.
815
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:30.760
Yeah, I was fortunate in that respect. He really got
816
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:36.159
me into art, taught me how to appreciate movies, because
817
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.119
I can remember as a kid like sitting on the
818
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:41.159
couch and be like, there's no shooting, nothing's going on,
819
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:47.199
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's like shut up, listen,
820
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:51.119
Like bullets, bullets and explosions aren't gonna fly every five
821
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:58.400
seconds or you know, unless it's a Michael Bay movie exactly.
822
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:03.199
Yeah, that's right. Oh man, no, that's good. And that's
823
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.119
and I love that too. It's like, yeah, because I
824
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.760
think everyone sort of grows up, like you know, one
825
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.639
wanting all the action and everything's like straight away and
826
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.800
all those things, especially being spoiled with like you know,
827
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:19.519
Michael Bay movies and things like that. But yeah, and
828
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:23.480
I think maturing is like when you actually are like, wow,
829
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.920
this has got great action, but you know, in between
830
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:30.960
those those, you know, there's these awesome scenes, like you know,
831
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:34.880
about these characters and their story and their like their struggle,
832
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:38.360
and yeah, that is art to me. Like in movies, man,
833
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:41.880
movies is such an awesome art form as well in
834
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:42.440
that regard.
835
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:47.159
Yeah, I watched Eight and a Half.
836
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:52.599
Oh I know my list, Okay, it's on my list,
837
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:54.679
but I really want to watch that.
838
00:48:54.679 --> 00:48:56.400
That was utterly mind blowing.
839
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:56.639
Bro.
840
00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:04.719
Just okay, wow, talk about beauty. I'm still awestruck. Like
841
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.280
I've watched a lot of movies, but that was one
842
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:11.079
of the most beautiful movies I've seen in my life.
843
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:12.280
And I don't even know if I could call it
844
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:16.519
a movie. It was an experience, man, Like wow, Okay,
845
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.159
it was the most colorful black and white movie you
846
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.760
will ever fucking see. Like, wow, that makes any sense?
847
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.599
Like the way they played with contrast and lighting was genius.
848
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:32.480
Wow. Okay, yeah, wow, yeah, because that's on my list.
849
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:34.760
I found out about that recently because I think it's
850
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:41.480
Italian director. I was looking at famous Italian movies and yeah,
851
00:49:41.599 --> 00:49:46.000
that looks really cool, so like because yeah, and also
852
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:49.800
cinematography is huge as well. Would you say, like, how
853
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:50.719
was that in that movie?
854
00:49:52.199 --> 00:50:01.880
Oh? Top notch, top notch? Yeah, like and I understand it. Okay,
855
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.000
So the dialogue moves really fast and it's very meta,
856
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:10.440
so a lot of times, like you don't really know
857
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:16.559
if you're moving through a dream, through reality, through a memory, okay,
858
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:19.960
but within that it makes it so trippy and fun
859
00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:25.119
you don't care. Like it's so beautiful and just I
860
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:27.440
feel like weird, odd shit like.
861
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:30.760
And beautiful.
862
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:33.320
Yeah, I think you'll dig it.
863
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:33.559
Man.
864
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:38.000
Like, as far as Italian movies go, I'm I'm more
865
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:44.000
familiar with like Italian horror or Gallo's, which are like
866
00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:54.039
slasher movies Italian slashers or spaghetti western Yeah yeah, yeah,
867
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:56.400
well so cop movies too from the seventies.
868
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.679
Okay, yeah, Man, the seventies, I mean that is a
869
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:05.079
huge decade, which like last year I got huge into movies.
870
00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:06.800
I think I at the end of the year I
871
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:11.639
watched about two hundred and ten in total, And yeah,
872
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:14.119
it was but it was just a year of just
873
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:19.159
you know, awakening of like cinematography, of story, of soundtrack
874
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.320
of every like, because I had already loved movies, but
875
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.079
like after last year, I really like, you know, my
876
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:27.519
mind is my my mind's eye is open a lot
877
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:32.400
more to all appreciation of that. And this year I've
878
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:35.000
tried to like you know, I tap myself watch a
879
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.760
movie every day. And a huge decade which is really
880
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:41.679
popular I think for me is the seventies. Like the
881
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:46.519
seventies man is just like that decade of from movies
882
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.280
was like there was so much like experimentation going on.
883
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:54.480
You know, there's a lot of like like RT films
884
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:59.960
which are like you know, like oh man, what's the word?
885
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.920
But it's like they they were they were like of
886
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:05.480
course cinematography that they were playing around with a lot
887
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:09.239
of like interesting ways of filming it and like crazy
888
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:12.599
stories too, So like yeah, this man, the seventies is
889
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:17.639
like a crazy decade for movies. Oh yeah.
890
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:20.559
I think that's when they really started pushing envelope on
891
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:21.800
a lot of different things.
892
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:23.599
Mm.
893
00:52:24.079 --> 00:52:27.599
And then you've got man, I just think of like
894
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:34.159
the teams of people from the seventies, right, like the directors,
895
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:37.480
the big names that we have now, the James Cameron's,
896
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:42.960
the John Carpenters, Steven Spielberg, like, all of those started
897
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:47.440
as basically groups of friends. Yeah, that's what it was.
898
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:49.599
It was a group of friends. Hey, you you hold
899
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:54.840
the mic, you you do this? Like yeah, and it
900
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.360
was grueling, but what they pulled out of it was amazing,
901
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:01.639
you know, and we're still talking about it forty.
902
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:05.320
Years later, so exactly. Yeah. Man, would you would you
903
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:16.360
have a favorite directa or and favorite movie of the seventies, Yeah.
904
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.440
Probably Suspiria Dario Argento.
905
00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.400
That's another one on my list too, So you'd recommend that.
906
00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:27.840
And as far as cinematography goes and and music, you're
907
00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:31.760
not gonna find much better than that. Like the the
908
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.400
Italians with the cinematography, the way that they use light
909
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:43.199
color to show mood. Wow, Like Suspiria adds a lot
910
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.280
of reds in the draft, in the drop back, in
911
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:51.039
the backgrounds. It plays with different colors, like it'll flash
912
00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:58.320
different colors of light onto the screen before something happens. Yeah,
913
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:01.480
it's a whole different way of doing things, man, And
914
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:07.000
I wish more people would watch foreign cinema oh a lot,
915
00:54:07.199 --> 00:54:11.559
and then they might realize how bad Hollywood is. But
916
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:14.760
it would open them up too. There's lots of great movies.
917
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:18.480
Out there, exactly. Yeah, and that's what was cool about
918
00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:21.760
the seventies. It's like because even like and you know,
919
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:24.400
I don't want to be down on like everything, but
920
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.199
it's like, yeah, like I get what you mean, like
921
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:31.239
Hollywood and really a lot of things are trending like
922
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.880
in a like a bad way like that, Like they're
923
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:36.400
just getting worse and worse. It's like a shame. But yeah,
924
00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:39.079
and I think but in the seventies it's like it
925
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:42.000
was definitely much better. And yeah, but like man, foreign
926
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:44.360
films like I've only just started to break the surface,
927
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:48.840
Like like I've seen a couple of silent films and
928
00:54:49.679 --> 00:54:53.880
like that, you know they were German and like yeah,
929
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.440
both of those were like the original Nosferatu and Metropolis
930
00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.599
they were German from the twenties, I think, and even
931
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:03.079
though it was just like wow, but yeah, and but
932
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:04.920
I watched another one as well, like a French one.
933
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:09.159
But yeah, foreign films in general, they're like wow, they
934
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:12.480
they've got a different like, you know, obviously being a
935
00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.559
different country, being a different culture. You know, they have
936
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:17.960
a different outlook on you know, things and how how
937
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:21.719
we react things. And that's you mentioned John Carpenter and
938
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.599
like you know, horror, so basically horror. I wanted to
939
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:28.559
like talk to you a bit about, like isn't it
940
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:32.719
interesting how things like that? How movies. Certain certain people
941
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.079
they they put down ideas into movies which like like
942
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:40.079
you said, like flashes are red, Like I haven't even
943
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:42.840
seen it, but I'm getting the vibe from that. Which
944
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:46.960
it's which is like people do things like directors they
945
00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:52.400
do things in certain films which like evoke the animal
946
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:54.440
brain in us, you know what I mean, like the fear,
947
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:58.639
the primal fear, you know, like doing certain things cinematography,
948
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:03.199
cinema cinematically and audio as well, like audio cues. Yeah,
949
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:06.519
they make us like on age, you know.
950
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:13.880
Yeah, it all like informs you almost subconsciously, and then
951
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:17.360
to think that that was all planned out by a director,
952
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:20.320
you know what I mean, like in the cutting room
953
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.239
or it came to them in a dream, you.
954
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:30.000
Know, yeah exactly, and and some of them, yeah, I mean, yeah,
955
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.079
I definitely got to get on those ones that you said,
956
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:36.559
Suspiria and yeah, and there's a bunch more as well.
957
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:39.719
I'm gonna be busy this weekend. Sure, I can.
958
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:45.360
Give you just a listed directors. Like movies, I approach
959
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.760
it a lot of a lot, similarly to comic books,
960
00:56:49.079 --> 00:56:53.719
Like I don't do the just the characters anymore. I
961
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:59.559
follow teams of writers and artists, Like, yeah, just because
962
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:02.639
it's a a Thor comic or a Wolverine comic doesn't
963
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:05.119
mean it's going to be good, you know, exactly.
964
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:08.760
No, I hear that for sure, because I'm a huge,
965
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:13.000
obviously collector of Avatar but also Aliens, Like I've got
966
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.880
most of the Aliens comic books, and yeah, like like
967
00:57:17.360 --> 00:57:19.719
so far, I haven't read a bad one, but yeah,
968
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.920
I get what you mean. It's like I haven't read
969
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:25.239
any of the Marvel stuff yet. But I'm a bit
970
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:28.840
reserved because it's like, yeah, just because like I love Aliens,
971
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:32.239
but I know, just because it's that thing, I know,
972
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:35.440
it depends on the writers, the artists. You know, the
973
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:40.239
art looks great, but you know, depending on depending on
974
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:42.840
how they do it, it's it defects if it's good or not.
975
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:45.159
And it's yeah, it's like you said, it's good to
976
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:48.559
have that, you know, reserved like sort of feelings about
977
00:57:48.559 --> 00:57:49.159
things like that.
978
00:57:50.639 --> 00:57:54.320
Well, I have to be selective. I have to curate
979
00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:58.519
my collection too. I don't have the ability to buy everything.
980
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:02.519
I want everything I see, And it doesn't mean I
981
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.280
won't try a new artist or writer. It just means that,
982
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:10.559
like I'm going to look for quality over just what
983
00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:12.920
the brand is, you know what I mean, just because
984
00:58:12.920 --> 00:58:17.000
it's a character doesn't you know, just because it's green
985
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:18.880
lantern doesn't mean it's going to be good, you know
986
00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:19.599
what I mean.
987
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:23.360
Like exactly for sure. And like you know, I hate
988
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:27.480
to talk negative about you know, comics and like and
989
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.280
superheroes and things like that, Like I love, I love
990
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:33.119
all the superheroes, you know, but I just haven't I
991
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:36.599
have never really gotten huge into that whole thing, like
992
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:39.719
cause and I know, like people are huge into absolute
993
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:42.880
Batman and everything, and those look great, right like you know,
994
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.119
I don't want to talk negative about any of them
995
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:46.880
because I haven't read any of them, so I don't know.
996
00:58:47.559 --> 00:58:50.960
But for me, it's a bit hard to just get
997
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:53.719
into all those because there's just so much of it.
998
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:56.519
I think, like there's like I don't want to say saturated,
999
00:58:56.599 --> 00:59:00.880
but like you know, with that compared to other things
1000
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:04.800
like like Aliens like Avatar, like like my favorite things
1001
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.719
of some others two like Predator, you know, the older
1002
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.360
dark Horse like material. I gravitate towards that because it's
1003
00:59:12.840 --> 00:59:15.079
of course because of the characters and stories, but like
1004
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.559
but mainly also because like you know, all of these
1005
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:24.320
superhero stories now like it's yeah, well, like I said,
1006
00:59:24.320 --> 00:59:25.719
I don't want to talk bad about it, but it's
1007
00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.000
there's just a lot of it. Like there's there's absolutely
1008
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:29.760
there's all these events, you know, and they and they
1009
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.840
just like from Marvel and DC they see a bit less,
1010
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:36.440
but like mainly Marvel, like there's just like all of
1011
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:38.960
this stuff going all the time, Like there's all these
1012
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:42.199
runs and all these events. It's like crazy.
1013
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.119
I think that's the number one barrier to entry for
1014
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.880
most people is just like where do I start? There's
1015
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:53.480
so much out there. You've got, you know, over one
1016
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:57.760
hundred years with some of these characters, and then you know,
1017
00:59:57.880 --> 01:00:00.559
where do you start? There's so much of it.
1018
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:06.320
Exactly. Yeah, I started with because I have I have
1019
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.880
started with some of the superheroes, like Superman. I started
1020
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:12.000
with the Golden Age. I like to start with the origin,
1021
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:15.840
you know, Golden Age, Captain America. I still gotta read Batman.
1022
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.800
But and then after those, like like I read Superman,
1023
01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:24.480
read some that was a great story. Yeah, so really
1024
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:27.800
after the Origin, I am looking at the major like
1025
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:31.440
best stories, like you know, like say, you know Jonathan
1026
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:37.000
Hickman Fantastic Four or like you know, Batman The Long Halloween.
1027
01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:41.400
I think that's that's correct. Yep, yep, yeah, that one,
1028
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:44.679
you know, Batman Killing Joke, you know, all Star Superman,
1029
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.639
all the major ones like that I want to read
1030
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:50.880
and then and then eventually, yeah, the staples, and then
1031
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:55.320
eventually I'll get into all the current ones. And but yeah,
1032
01:00:55.400 --> 01:00:57.719
but is it, like, I don't know, is it like
1033
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:00.039
that for you a little bit too? Or am I
1034
01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:01.599
sort of the only one that's like that?
1035
01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.519
No? No, I still refuse to get into a lot
1036
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:10.360
of the newer universes just because it's like you say,
1037
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:14.760
there's I'm already into so many things already, and then
1038
01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:19.360
once you get into say a lot of them, are
1039
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:23.519
world building now, Like if you take for instance, the
1040
01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:28.280
image the Ghost Machine, They've got a whole universe off
1041
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:33.280
Jeff John's books. Now well I mean not just Jeff John's,
1042
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:37.280
but yeah, if you get into one and there's all
1043
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:43.679
these tie ins, you know, and you want the whole story. Yeah, yeah,
1044
01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:45.960
it kind of gets to be a bit much sometimes
1045
01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:47.880
for sure.
1046
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:52.280
And time, I mean it's like you know, like you know,
1047
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.639
with with work and doing all these things. It's like, man,
1048
01:01:56.239 --> 01:01:58.440
I gotta find the time to do all like to
1049
01:01:58.480 --> 01:01:59.519
read all of it. It's kind of.
1050
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:04.360
Crazy staying on top of it. And I haven't done
1051
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:08.119
new comics in a couple of years. Again, I'm with you.
1052
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:11.079
I don't. I don't want to discourage anyone from reading comics.
1053
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:15.840
I really don't. I love the art form of passion
1054
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:19.360
in my life. You know, I'm wearing all this branded shit,
1055
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.280
all of it is behind me, you know, obviously I
1056
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:28.480
like it. Yeah, but I won't lie there. There are frustrations,
1057
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:35.360
and quality of modern books is one of them. They're
1058
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.360
still good. There's good stuff out there, but it's mostly
1059
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.159
from independent stuff.
1060
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:44.639
Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what I found. Like, you know,
1061
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:47.400
sometimes I'll be at the comic book store, and I'm like,
1062
01:02:47.800 --> 01:02:50.400
I love looking at the indie section because it's like,
1063
01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:55.159
you know, there's these stories which look original and you know, interesting,
1064
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:58.719
and I'm like, wow, they like really jump out at me, and.
1065
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:04.920
Yeah, you can do a mini series of four or
1066
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:07.320
a maxi series of twelve, you know what I mean.
1067
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.519
It's like and then you get a good story and
1068
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:11.000
you're done.
1069
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:15.320
Yeah, exactly. I've got a few of them, but it's like,
1070
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:17.599
you know, I still got to get to them because
1071
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:21.639
it's just time. Man. Yeah.
1072
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:26.400
JSS Brooklyn is asking a question in the chat do
1073
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:30.719
you prefer Alien or Avert or Avatar? I understand you
1074
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:33.679
enjoy both franchises, but which do you think has a
1075
01:03:33.719 --> 01:03:34.800
long term future.
1076
01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:39.159
It's a good question and also high a JSS and.
1077
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:42.239
Eric's everybody for watching Eric.
1078
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:47.840
Yep, yeah, everyone, it's a great question. I think, yeah,
1079
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:50.360
because I was huge into I mean, well, sorry, I
1080
01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:55.639
am huge into both. I really do love both. I
1081
01:03:55.679 --> 01:03:58.800
have been more into Avatar of course the past two years,
1082
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:04.039
so I do that's more more newer and more fresh
1083
01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:07.440
than Aliens. I think. Obviously the two are very different.
1084
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:11.440
Liker like On's horror and one is like more action
1085
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:17.440
sort of like different story. But yeah, Avatar is like newer.
1086
01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:20.400
I think I think we're like on the sort of
1087
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:23.719
like beginning of that starting into like becoming a big thing.
1088
01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:26.079
I hope it becomes like more of an expanded thing,
1089
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:28.880
like like Star Trek, like you know, like our big
1090
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:33.639
franchises that we have now without losing its soul of course,
1091
01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:40.440
like it has to say good right, I think Aliens
1092
01:04:40.480 --> 01:04:42.960
as well. I, Like I said, I haven't read any
1093
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.400
of the new Marvel stuff, and I think part of
1094
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:47.960
that is because I'm a bit worried because I really
1095
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:51.840
loved the dark Horse all the like runs from dark Horse,
1096
01:04:52.320 --> 01:04:55.239
the ones I've read, and and I love the fact
1097
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:58.039
that it was India as well, and since they since
1098
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:01.480
Disney bought twentyth Century five and now Marvel makes them.
1099
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:04.079
I I'll be honest, I didn't like how that happened.
1100
01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:13.920
So you know, I know you you interrupt. I was
1101
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:17.320
still thinking, I know, I know you liked Alien Earth.
1102
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:23.599
Yeah that's where my mind went with like the modern
1103
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:31.639
Marvel Hulu. Yeah, so what what were your thoughts on that? Yeah?
1104
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:34.440
Well, that's good to bring it up, actually, because yeah,
1105
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:37.880
like with the new stuff, it's there's there's those worries
1106
01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:40.360
which it's going to be like like with the comics,
1107
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:45.079
for like real quick, the comics, it's like, you know, I,
1108
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:46.280
like I said, I haven't read any of it. I
1109
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:48.039
don't want to put it down, but I am worried
1110
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:51.360
looking at it. I'm like, oh, there's Predator versus Spider
1111
01:05:51.400 --> 01:05:55.199
Man and that, you know, yeah, Wolverine and Black Panther
1112
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:58.159
and Aliens versus Avengers and like you know, Aliens versus
1113
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:01.599
Captain America. It's like, Okay, yeah, I hope these are good,
1114
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:03.880
but there's a lot of that right now, so I
1115
01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:06.599
don't know. But yeah, so Alien Earth is an example,
1116
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:10.039
prime example of the new things like Romulus. You know,
1117
01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:14.559
so far everything that they've made through the screen Romulus
1118
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:18.280
and Earth has been good. I think, you know, Alien
1119
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:20.480
Earth could have been There are parts which definitely could
1120
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:24.800
have been better. I of course same with Romulus. Overall,
1121
01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:27.519
I think it was pretty good that and that does
1122
01:06:27.559 --> 01:06:30.719
give me hope for the comics and the future of
1123
01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:37.360
Aliens with Marble. But yeah, it's like, because like I
1124
01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:41.639
was saying to hero Bishop, I treat it like the
1125
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:43.480
like the comics that I've read. You know, it's like
1126
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:48.400
it's okay, it's nothing can be the original movies, Like
1127
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:52.079
that's a given. So really it's just like, you know,
1128
01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:55.400
an extra little story you know in this world that
1129
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.480
you like, so you know, I'm there for it, you know,
1130
01:06:58.719 --> 01:07:02.199
I think, Yeah, I think the I think the suspense
1131
01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:05.119
in Alien Earth was pretty good. Like the way they
1132
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:08.360
have each thing going on in each episode, you know,
1133
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:13.079
the things going on with like the the half android
1134
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.079
like hybrid people, like the main guy who was on
1135
01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:19.000
the Imagine know, the one that the ship that crashed,
1136
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:21.679
he was in charge and then he was like getting
1137
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:27.239
in with the the Prodigy Corporations young children put into
1138
01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:33.119
adult bodies of like synthetic bodies, that guy who was
1139
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.239
like getting in with him, trying to manipulate him to
1140
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:39.039
try and get his mission completed. I thought that was
1141
01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:44.360
actually pretty pretty, like you know, pretty cool. But yeah,
1142
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:46.519
so like that gives me hope. I know a lot
1143
01:07:46.519 --> 01:07:49.440
of people didn't like it. It has been a little
1144
01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:51.280
leile since I watched it. Now I should have written
1145
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:54.079
down I've recently gotten I've gotten into the habit of
1146
01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:56.519
writing down the positive and negatives for things I watch.
1147
01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:59.440
I should have did it for them. But but yeah,
1148
01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:00.119
what about.
1149
01:07:59.880 --> 01:08:09.679
You men, I liked it, geez, Yeah, I'm with you there,
1150
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:13.800
Like I'm trying to treat it as each director, each
1151
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:17.359
thing is is kind of an independent thing, right. I
1152
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:20.600
mean if you look at Alien from Aliens, they're almost
1153
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:24.000
two different kinds of movies, right, like ones of suspense
1154
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:26.199
thriller horror, and then the other one's kind of an
1155
01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:34.479
action horror. So yeah, but with Alien Earth, to me,
1156
01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:38.399
like it it felt really watered down, like a Disney
1157
01:08:38.439 --> 01:08:43.760
project with how brightly lit it was, Like I felt
1158
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:49.439
like I was watching like a Disney movie. Yeah. In
1159
01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:55.720
the synse, the android bodies, like the aliens themselves, to me,
1160
01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:59.319
didn't pose much of a threat to anybody, and the
1161
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:04.800
only ones they killed was a few soldiers. Like the
1162
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:08.920
synths were more dangerous. They freaked me out. Screw of
1163
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:13.199
the aliens, like yeah, you know, like the sin the
1164
01:09:13.520 --> 01:09:15.520
one girl there, she just like popped the dude's head
1165
01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:21.479
off or whatever, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, focus was
1166
01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:25.199
on that in the relationship between her and her brother,
1167
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:28.720
and I'm like, you had the whole fate of the
1168
01:09:28.800 --> 01:09:34.439
Earth and like that seemed very inconsequential, Like nobody gave
1169
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:37.520
her shit, Like we just have this alien virus that
1170
01:09:37.560 --> 01:09:39.319
could take us all out in three days.
1171
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:46.960
But yeah, no, it's it's it's yeah. There was a
1172
01:09:47.039 --> 01:09:52.079
lot of levels to that, and I think, like, yeah, actually,
1173
01:09:52.439 --> 01:09:55.880
you bring up a good point. The aliens. You know,
1174
01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:57.680
I don't want to hate on them, but it's like, yeah,
1175
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:01.279
I think the production for how the aliens looked could
1176
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:04.199
have been a lot better. Like in the first episode,
1177
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:08.359
for example, the alien looked really bad. You know, like
1178
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:09.960
I don't I don't want to hate on it, but
1179
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:12.680
it's like, it looks it looked much better later, you know.
1180
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.640
But it's also that balance, you know obviously.
1181
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:18.239
Oh in the ship, Yeah, yeah, I remember that, Like
1182
01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:20.159
that took me out of it. It looks so bad.
1183
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:23.119
It took me out of watching it. I'm just like,
1184
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:27.279
and the way it was moving was very human. In
1185
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:30.159
all of the other movies, it's running on fours, it's
1186
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:36.039
climbing up walls. It's not a human. It's not silicon, right,
1187
01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:37.520
silicon based life.
1188
01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:41.760
For him, Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, shitting at sills and
1189
01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:45.039
replicating them with polarized silicon.
1190
01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:52.439
Like episode five, the episode where I think his character's
1191
01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:55.800
name was Morgan, the guy that you were talking about
1192
01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:59.800
from the other ship, like that episode was solely centered
1193
01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:03.159
on him and was kind of tying his background. Like
1194
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:06.199
that episode was a different director and that was a
1195
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:09.840
perfect episode to me. If the rest of the series
1196
01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:11.880
would have been like that, I would have gave it
1197
01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:16.359
a five out of five, like honestly, but like, the
1198
01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:20.800
focus wasn't about survival, it wasn't about aliens. It was
1199
01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:27.199
this like a disneyfied relationship basically.
1200
01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:31.600
Yeah, and I think, what was you gonna say about there?
1201
01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:37.039
But yeah, like because man, I lost my thought, but yeah,
1202
01:11:37.159 --> 01:11:46.279
like the yeah I think, but like I get what
1203
01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:49.159
you mean, and it's yeah, that episode was really good,
1204
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:55.399
and I think I would like to see a season two.
1205
01:11:55.399 --> 01:11:59.319
Hopefully they build upon what we have said, you know,
1206
01:11:59.560 --> 01:12:06.319
and yeah, because yeah, like to be fair, I did
1207
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:11.119
like some of those aspects about how like the sister
1208
01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:15.279
brother relationship. But I liked how he he you know,
1209
01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:19.960
thought she was dead and now she's like alive again
1210
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:21.800
but in this other body, and it's like now there's
1211
01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.760
this like because it because because when I watch things
1212
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:27.159
like that, I like to think about how like the
1213
01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:29.760
basic human aspect, like you know, how we how we
1214
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:31.960
just go about our lives and how we're in these
1215
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.680
bodies and like how we just like I don't like
1216
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:37.159
really deep things to think about, right, but like, you
1217
01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:41.800
know the he You've got the brother, which is a human,
1218
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:44.039
and then now all of a sudden, his little sister
1219
01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:49.640
is this, you know, this android body and her brain,
1220
01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:52.319
which also is another question is it actually them or
1221
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:54.920
is it just like a clone of them put in
1222
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.800
a body? Like That's so there's that too, and I
1223
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:00.600
kind of like that, and but yeah, yeah, I think
1224
01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:06.000
I do think they the balance, the balance of being
1225
01:13:06.039 --> 01:13:09.159
able to tell that like a new original story like
1226
01:13:09.159 --> 01:13:15.960
that also keeping it what people like, which is horror, alien,
1227
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:20.960
you know, those themes, the cinematography of that, like people
1228
01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.279
finding directors funny. That balance is hard, I think, and
1229
01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:27.119
I think I think they did all right. But yeah,
1230
01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:29.359
there are definitely there are parts which they could have
1231
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:33.520
could have done better, I think, But but yeah, really
1232
01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:35.399
just the spence got me like because I was like,
1233
01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:37.800
because like for me at least, I was like, damn,
1234
01:13:37.920 --> 01:13:39.479
I can't wait till the next one, because I'm like
1235
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:41.920
I want to I want to see what happens.
1236
01:13:42.640 --> 01:13:45.520
Oh yeah, I was curious. Every week, I'm like, where
1237
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:47.560
are they going to go with it. I'm just waiting
1238
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:52.760
for the sense to turn the entire time, you know. Yeah,
1239
01:13:52.760 --> 01:13:56.640
but it was I like the idea of that, right, Like,
1240
01:13:56.720 --> 01:14:01.000
I mean, just look at present day, we're looking at
1241
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:05.800
neural implant chips, right, yeah, so once you can map
1242
01:14:06.039 --> 01:14:09.800
the entire body's processes, who's to say you can't download
1243
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:16.359
into something else, That's right. It was just the fact
1244
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:20.159
that to me, it was that balance, right, It was
1245
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:24.159
the aliens seem like a novelty and like a pet dog,
1246
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:27.199
like she's whistling to the alien like it's a pet.
1247
01:14:27.560 --> 01:14:32.159
It really it was not the center. And then why
1248
01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:35.680
are we introducing these different kinds of aliens we've never
1249
01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:36.840
seen in a prequel?
1250
01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:42.520
Okay, yeah, what I don't see? So you want to
1251
01:14:42.560 --> 01:14:43.560
as much as a fan of that?
1252
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:45.039
Not really?
1253
01:14:46.199 --> 01:14:50.439
Yeah, because because yeah, because I I was on board
1254
01:14:50.479 --> 01:14:54.319
for that. I think the other aliens are like, they're cool.
1255
01:14:55.880 --> 01:14:59.039
But I understand why, you know, you would have reserve
1256
01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:01.159
feelings about that, because obviously we are here for the
1257
01:15:01.239 --> 01:15:05.000
zeno mos, right, we're about this species, you know one
1258
01:15:05.039 --> 01:15:10.560
one actually yeah, one would like well, like I was
1259
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:13.600
interested in those alien aliens because it's something new, but
1260
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:20.479
obviously you can tell that. I think they are, you
1261
01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:23.920
know well, I mean, we know the life cycle of
1262
01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:26.600
the xenomorph, right, I think there's only so much that
1263
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:29.399
they can do with that now. And like because this
1264
01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:32.079
is and this is why Alien and Aliens like the
1265
01:15:32.119 --> 01:15:37.319
first two are so fantastic, because they because the because aliens.
1266
01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:42.079
The sequel introduced like the Queen, you know they James Cameron,
1267
01:15:42.079 --> 01:15:44.560
he revealed that there's this queen which lays all these
1268
01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:47.399
eggs and that was like a new that was like
1269
01:15:47.439 --> 01:15:52.159
a new shock thing, like addition to the to the
1270
01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:55.680
life cycle. And I think, you know, in the forty
1271
01:15:55.760 --> 01:16:00.399
years forty five years since then, they've struggled to find
1272
01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.520
new things like that. Obviously with the with the prequels,
1273
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:05.800
they've done the black goo you know, which you know
1274
01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:08.560
in Prometheus was really cool. I liked it. In Covenant,
1275
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:11.159
I don't think it was as good. Still good though,
1276
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:15.119
but you're not as strong as Prometheus, I thought, yeah,
1277
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:17.600
and yeah, and I think with Earth obviously now they've
1278
01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:21.920
just branched out into just completely new species because really
1279
01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:25.079
I don't think they really there's like they can't do
1280
01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:28.279
much with the xenomorp thing anymore. And like I said,
1281
01:16:28.319 --> 01:16:30.000
I was on board with the new Aliens because I
1282
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:34.560
think the relations honestly, actually, yeah, thinking about it more now,
1283
01:16:34.760 --> 01:16:39.000
the dynamic between those new Aliens and the Xenos I
1284
01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:40.920
wish we would have seen because we didn't really see
1285
01:16:41.039 --> 01:16:43.760
that much, like I think a square off. Well sorry,
1286
01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:47.960
we did see a square off between the Eye and
1287
01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:50.800
the xenomorph. That was cool, But I think more of
1288
01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:54.840
like an in depth like relationship with those would be
1289
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.439
cool because, let's face it, I mean if in the
1290
01:16:57.479 --> 01:17:00.760
world of Alien, of the Alien Universe where there are
1291
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:05.039
these animals, realistically there would be other creatures and on
1292
01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:07.920
other planets like that which are similar and you know,
1293
01:17:08.199 --> 01:17:12.520
equally if not more scary, you know so, or different,
1294
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:13.239
but it.
1295
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:16.920
Would have been like different stages of that evolution to me,
1296
01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:20.920
and the character the designs of it just seemed kind
1297
01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:24.239
of wonky to me, like you're going from like a bug.
1298
01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:27.439
It's kind of the like the one creature was kind
1299
01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:30.239
of like this this bug thing with a long snout
1300
01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:35.279
and I'm just like, I don't I don't get what's
1301
01:17:35.319 --> 01:17:39.560
going on here. If we could do something where like Prometheus,
1302
01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:42.880
like let's go back into the origins of the Aliens,
1303
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.560
let's I'm being nerdy, let's go into the science of this.
1304
01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:49.520
I want to learn about the aliens, not just like
1305
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:54.039
why I don't know. Yeah, I'm probably being picky here,
1306
01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:56.079
but no, that's fair.
1307
01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:59.199
Yeah, because I will say one thing about those bug things,
1308
01:17:59.279 --> 01:18:03.560
like they they were ugly and like I guess that's
1309
01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:05.479
what they were going for, but that's like they were
1310
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:08.880
really like gross, and like when it attacked that one
1311
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:11.039
guy and he was like the synthetic like the kid
1312
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:14.000
that was in the in the synthetic body, forget his name,
1313
01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.520
but yeah, he just got destroyed by that. That was recoursing,
1314
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:20.640
like and that's another thing too. Yeah, that's another thing too.
1315
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:24.600
Though a lot of it was CGI and failed CGI,
1316
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:29.319
which is a shame. So but yeah, but I mean
1317
01:18:29.359 --> 01:18:33.000
that was like what I'm trying to say is basically
1318
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:36.039
they they a lot of scenes like had to have
1319
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:39.880
the potential to hopefully, hopefully when they come back for
1320
01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:42.960
season two, hopefully they build upon those, you know, more
1321
01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:45.319
of the because obviously as artists, you know, we can
1322
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:49.600
appreciate you know, like the bug thing, you know, and
1323
01:18:49.680 --> 01:18:52.399
like the eye, the tentacles, you know, all those other things.
1324
01:18:52.479 --> 01:18:56.079
You know, the look of them, the maybe the life
1325
01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.119
cycle of them, Like you said, you know what they
1326
01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:01.520
like entail you know, well, that's what I.
1327
01:19:01.520 --> 01:19:04.319
Want to figure out. What is that I in season two,
1328
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:06.520
I will be tweeting in to figure out what that
1329
01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:09.159
thing is and where it's going and who it's gonnaactly
1330
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:10.119
go into.
1331
01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:16.960
Like yeah, because also that particularly, I like the aspect
1332
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:20.319
of that how it was intelligent, Like they they were
1333
01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:23.000
alluding to the fact that it is so intelligent, like
1334
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:27.119
it knows pie or whatever, and it's like, wow, that
1335
01:19:27.199 --> 01:19:31.119
means it's like really smart, like like smart as humans. Basically.
1336
01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:35.039
I think what they were trying to get at was
1337
01:19:35.079 --> 01:19:38.479
like once it it attaches itself to its host, it
1338
01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:43.159
absorbs everything like a hive mind kind of. So I
1339
01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:45.279
think it's going to try to get into the humans
1340
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:46.760
and just like take shit.
1341
01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:51.960
Over, kind of like Invasion of the Body Snatches a
1342
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:52.560
little bit.
1343
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:53.520
You got it.
1344
01:19:54.199 --> 01:19:57.439
Yeah. I watched that movie recently and I was like, wow,
1345
01:19:57.600 --> 01:19:59.079
that was a good movie. Have you seen that?
1346
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:00.920
Oh yeah, yeah a while ago.
1347
01:20:01.920 --> 01:20:05.279
Yeah, the seventies one. I still need to watch the original,
1348
01:20:05.680 --> 01:20:08.800
the fifties one, but but yeah, that's that seventies one. Man,
1349
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:09.560
that was really good.
1350
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:16.720
I'm blanking at was that Donald Sutherland? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1351
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:21.439
he's a great actor. Totally underrated man mm hmmm a cook, yeah,
1352
01:20:21.439 --> 01:20:23.840
but great actor for sure.
1353
01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:31.199
Yeah. Man, well it's been let me see, let me
1354
01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:32.319
see what's going on in the chat.
1355
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:37.720
It's about an hour and twenty en Yeah, h did
1356
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:38.560
you want to cha?
1357
01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:41.880
Oh, I'm good. I'm good for anything you want to
1358
01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:45.159
as long as you want to keep going whenever. Okay,
1359
01:20:46.279 --> 01:20:48.119
hr Giga he nailed a look at the alien. That's
1360
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:51.279
another thing too that Eric Thompson brought up, is that
1361
01:20:51.399 --> 01:20:55.399
like the original Like I hate to say it, but
1362
01:20:55.479 --> 01:20:59.600
like as far the further we go, the I wonder
1363
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:03.199
what hay our Giga. Well, obviously, like you know, there's
1364
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:07.319
there's the whole dynamic which with hr gigas like original
1365
01:21:07.439 --> 01:21:11.479
art inspiring alien, right, the creature or the xenomorph, the
1366
01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:17.199
life cycle. How how it's like a sexual like you know,
1367
01:21:17.399 --> 01:21:21.000
perverted like thing, you know, and you really see that
1368
01:21:21.119 --> 01:21:24.359
in his artwork, right, I've got some of his artworks.
1369
01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:27.800
I should I should explain them, but but but yeah,
1370
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:33.279
and it's like the more, you know, as we continue,
1371
01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:36.159
it's like I think we really need to get back
1372
01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:41.079
to that sort of like taps into our primal like
1373
01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:45.000
fear that that that lighting, that whole thing, Like you said,
1374
01:21:45.239 --> 01:21:47.239
it needs to be dark, it needs to be scary,
1375
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:47.479
you know.
1376
01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:52.840
It's like yeah, yeah, when when they're like running around
1377
01:21:53.199 --> 01:21:59.000
a brightly lit island, I don't know it. Yeah, it
1378
01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:02.039
felt like a Disney show to me, like I was
1379
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:05.680
watching a Disney show and not Aliens.
1380
01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:12.239
So one thing I did like as well though, actually
1381
01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:16.239
was the like the ruthless Corporation element, Like that one
1382
01:22:16.279 --> 01:22:19.560
guy who I think is a no yeah he was.
1383
01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:29.079
He was a synthetic as well. He was like the
1384
01:22:29.640 --> 01:22:33.600
remember like the main synthetic which was under the the
1385
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:35.359
the young guy who was in chardge of the product
1386
01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:40.039
Prodigy Corporation. He was. He was like just a completely
1387
01:22:40.199 --> 01:22:43.520
he was a great representation of the just completely ruthless
1388
01:22:43.800 --> 01:22:47.560
corporation mindset. Like we were talking to the brother, He's like, well,
1389
01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:50.279
you know, you you have a lung now which is
1390
01:22:50.319 --> 01:22:52.880
in you, which is a synthetic lung, which is you know,
1391
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:54.920
made by us. So you know, if you want to
1392
01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:57.960
leave here, you can go. You can go, but you
1393
01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:01.479
know you'll get the bill for you're lung if you
1394
01:23:01.479 --> 01:23:03.680
want to keep living so it's like, damn, you know,
1395
01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:06.920
he's so ruthless, and you know other things too. It's like, yeah,
1396
01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:09.159
and I did like the world building of like whale
1397
01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:14.840
in Utani showing like Missutani, you know, in the like
1398
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:18.920
the building and like and the whole like the world
1399
01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.720
as well, run by all the different corporations sort of
1400
01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:26.640
like Avatar, how they're basically like talking about how in
1401
01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:31.319
the future Earth and like, you know, the countries won't
1402
01:23:31.319 --> 01:23:34.159
be really countries anymore, like the world will be run
1403
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:38.479
by just big corporations basically, you know, yeah, because like
1404
01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:41.239
because they have more money, like eventually they all have
1405
01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:43.800
more money than governments, you know, because governments will like
1406
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:46.199
you know, some governments they don't know what they're doing.
1407
01:23:46.239 --> 01:23:50.279
So it's like, you know, corporations, they are interested in
1408
01:23:50.279 --> 01:23:53.000
making money, and once they make money, you know, once
1409
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:54.640
they find a way to make money, they will just
1410
01:23:54.720 --> 01:23:56.800
keep going and going and then eventually, you know, who's
1411
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:59.600
to stop them from like you know, owning the world. Basically,
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it's like, yeah, it's it's a crazy world to like
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you know, think.
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About, Well, it's not that far off from ours. You
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can ask my friends from my real life, probably about
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ten fifteen years ago, I made up a mock just
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a map of the world that was blank, and I
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wrote in like North America. I put Google on South America.
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I put you know, AOL on you know, we may
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be divided up like that one day, you know what
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I mean, Like they already are.
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But yeah, so it's crazy. Yeah that's and yeah, it's
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and that's it's interesting like about art. You know, I
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01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:46.000
think like it's just a TV show we're talking about
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01:24:46.039 --> 01:24:48.560
but yeah, here it is getting us talking about all,
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01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:51.960
you know, wide range of things, and it's and that's Yeah,
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that's what I like about art. It's crazy, man, the
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01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:59.840
depth of everything. Yeah. Anyway, I feel like I'm talking
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to much, man. I want to I want to hand
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it back to you for some stuff.
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01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:06.520
Oh no, I'm here to interview you. I'm probably talking
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too much, man, But no, I feel yeah, there, I
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have a meme I go back to a lot of
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times about art that art should disturb the peaceful and
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bring peace to the disturbed.
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Hm hmm.
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Yeah, like it should move you in some way, you
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know what I mean, Like it's there the same thing
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with stand up comedy. It's not just there to make
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01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:34.520
you laugh. It's there to make you think that's an
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art in a way, you know.
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01:25:37.960 --> 01:25:43.359
Definitely. Yeah, anything that makes me think it's like it's cool, man,
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Like yeah, books, you said, stand up comedy, That's wow.
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01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:53.680
That's that's actually like a good that's a good catalyst
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01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:57.159
for for things like that. It's like, yeah, sometimes you'll
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01:25:57.199 --> 01:25:59.880
be watching stuff and it's like it just gets hit
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01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:03.720
thinking about things about life and like for me, I
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01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:10.560
like to think deep about those things like when yeah,
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01:26:10.680 --> 01:26:16.600
it's it's interesting man, it's deep, right exactly.
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01:26:17.039 --> 01:26:22.000
Yeah, yeah, well man, I think we'll probably wrap it
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01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:26.640
up here. Is there any place we can let the
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01:26:26.680 --> 01:26:31.279
people watching now and on the replay so they can
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01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:33.720
get a hold of you or follow you?
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01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:39.640
Yeah so I yeah, so I am on YouTube flippy
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seven eight seven three and my main thing now is Instagram.
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01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:49.079
It is also flippy seven eight seven So check me
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01:26:49.119 --> 01:26:52.680
out there and yeah, I post all my but I'm
1458
01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:55.279
trying to branch out into into YouTube do some I've
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01:26:55.279 --> 01:26:57.800
got some got some ideas which I would like to
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01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:00.800
do in like edits and like just videos. You know,
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01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:03.399
I've been thinking about maybe doing movie reviews and things
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01:27:03.399 --> 01:27:06.079
like that too, So you'd be great thinking about it man,
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01:27:06.199 --> 01:27:09.600
inspired by you and you know, Node Core and just
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01:27:09.640 --> 01:27:13.199
people in our creative world. And yeah, it's good man,
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01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:15.039
it's been amen. It's been great talking with you.
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01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:18.960
Man, it's been great having you. Man. I really appreciate it.
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You are my first official guest, so I really appreciate it.
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01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:31.800
And anybody watching oh yeah yeah, well we'll have you
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01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:36.439
back and we'll stay in touch, you know. Looking forward
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01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:41.039
Statue Khan and maybe a gem con and.
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01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:44.880
Mm hmm for sure. Maybe by then we'll get some
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01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:47.880
maybe some content going together. Maybe something cool in the future,
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01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:49.880
you know, if not this year, definitely in the future
1474
01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:52.359
would be cool to like maybe do some stuff like that.
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01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:57.279
Oh dude, we could do some movie reviews. I'm thinking
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01:27:57.319 --> 01:28:00.359
about trying to get something together with with other people
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01:28:00.600 --> 01:28:01.680
doing that kind of thing.
1478
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:07.039
Yeah, groups we get a good like podcast sort of
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01:28:07.039 --> 01:28:07.640
thing going on.
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01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:09.760
Yeah yeah, just.
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01:28:09.720 --> 01:28:15.000
Flee, free throw, free free flowing thinking talking you know.
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01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:20.600
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds dope. Man. Well we'll coordinate
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and do that.
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01:28:22.159 --> 01:28:23.319
Yeah.
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01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:26.680
I'll probably wrap it up here. So anyone watching on
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the replay or watching live. I'm kind of newer here.
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01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:34.119
I would appreciate any kind of support. If you could
1488
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:40.439
leave a comment uh afterwards, or a subscribe. I would
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01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:43.600
really appreciate it. But again I would really like to
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thank Flippy for coming out and everyone who's watching.
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All right, peace, check out the middle Health.
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Thank you much later,