ABOUT THIS EPISODE
How can clinicians become more comfortable using ketogenic therapy in mental health care? In this episode of Metabolic Mind, Dr. Bret Scher speaks with Dr. Deanna Kelly about Live It, Launch It!, a training program designed to help clinicians learn ketogenic therapy by experiencing it themselves.
Dr. Kelly explains why evidence-based treatments can still take years to reach everyday clinical practice, especially when providers don't feel confident using them. To address that gap, her team recruited clinicians for a program that combined ketogenic therapy education with four weeks of personally following a ketogenic diet and published it as a study: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2026.1913325/full
Clinicians started with very low confidence in their ability to use ketogenic therapy. With education alone, those scores improved substantially, and actually living the diet pushed confidence even higher. Participants also reported improvements in mental and physical health, along with an average weight loss of about five pounds.
They cover:
- Why clinician confidence can limit adoption of new treatments
- How Live It, Launch It! was designed
- Why experiential learning added more than education alone
- How clinicians learned to troubleshoot ketosis in real time
- What participants reported about mood, brain fog, anxiety, and physical health
- Why group support helped clinicians understand how differently people respond
- What side effects and challenges came up during the four weeks
- How this model could be scaled across residency programs and health systems
- Why the next step is measuring whether clinicians actually use ketogenic therapy more often with patients
For Dr. Kelly, the goal is to help clinicians move from knowing about ketogenic therapy to feeling prepared to discuss it and use it in practice as the evidence continues to grow.
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Expert Featured:
Dr. Deanna L. Kelly PharmD, BCPP
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanna-l-kelly-pharmd-bcpp-3a8b299b/
- https://www.instagram.com/dr.deanna.kelly/
- https://x.com/ProfDeannaK
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Metabolic Mind is a non-profit initiative of Baszucki Group working to transform the study and treatment of mental disorders by exploring the connection between metabolism and brain health. We leverage the science of metabolic psychiatry and personal stories to offer education, community, and hope to people struggling with mental health challenges and those who care for them.
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