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Hey all, just a quick second, and everybody will be in here.
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Hey, Magic Makers.
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I'm Mombirella.
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Juju Jones right here.
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I'm TJ Peterson.
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Welcome to Magic Mickey Mischief.
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Get your wands to the ready.
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Because we solemnly swear we're up to no good.
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And speaking of up to no good, it looks like the pixies jumped in a little too fast for me today.
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They kind of jumped the gun on me.
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But that's okay.
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Because we have with us today no echo, but we have with us Erin, Ann, and Kyle Vale, and we're going to be talking about Autonomous, their short film, short micro horror, which is kind of cool.
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But um would you guys explain to those who may not know what a micro horror is?
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Let's start there.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So, oh, sorry.
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This is our daughter's wand that is making everywhere.
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Adding to the magic, yes.
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So the micro horror from Scream Pie, they've got three different series out currently.
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Ours is one of them, autonomous.
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It's 16 episodes, 28 minutes total.
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It's shot vertically.
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So they're divided up into like one to two minute episodes.
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You can watch it on your own.
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Get the whole thing done faster than watch one episode of a random show.
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And uh you find it hopefully really entertaining, a little bit claustrophobic and horrifying too.
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Yeah.
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Uh do you want to get the basic premise without giving away too much information on what this movie is?
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Absolutely.
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So it's called autonomous, and it's based on a couple I played one week style directed.
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And yeah, they start out in a horrible situation.
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They've had an awful dinner, they're arguing in the back of a driverless way mo.
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GOMO.
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Uh yeah, it's a driverless autonomous vehicle.
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And things take a turn for the worse when the Go starts taking them in the wrong direction.
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Creepy things start happening, and basically everything gets shot to hell.
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Great.
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Um, okay.
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This is kind of like my worst nightmare.
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Uh not gonna lie.
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I don't even use Siri on my phone.
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I I not not not one of those things that I like to do.
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Um, I actually am glad you're back because after we did the first one of these episodes with you guys talking about autonomous, where we had the pixies come in and wreak havoc on our episode.
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I kid you not, we saw a semi that was autonomous.
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And I'm like, no.
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And super hobby told me he said, Yeah, they're actually starting to do that now.
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I said, Okay, an auto like small was bad enough, but an 18-wheeler, like a semi long.
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Can you imagine one of those things going off?
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No, not okay.
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It sounds like a great horror movie.
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I can just I can see the whole thing right now.
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Yeah, it's like Steven Spielberg's first movie, right?
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Drive or whatever.
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That's what I was actually thinking, too.
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She called me freaking out about it, and I was thinking that I was like, Yeah, that's I remember that movie.
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It was was overdrive, right?
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I think it was drive.
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I I may be wrong though.
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Honestly, but the truck just kept coming.
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That's all I can remember about it.
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So it just kept coming.
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I thought it was called Overdrive.
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You know what?
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If it wasn't called Overdrive, that would have been a superior name.
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I like it.
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I mean, I I just I feel like asking when people are inventing this stuff, I feel like saying, Did you not watch the movie?
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Yeah, it was called that.
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I think it was called that.
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Okay.
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We have cousin Marissa here, and she says hi and sends her love, obviously.
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Um, but I gotta ask, how did you film it?
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Because I did some of the pictures on the reel, and it's actually a car.
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So I I kind of see it kind of it you kind of contortionist.
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How did you do it?
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I would have 100% expected the roof of the car to be missing in some of like the shots because the way that you got in the you're literally in the car with you this whole time, and then it's amazing.
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Yeah, how'd you do it?
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Well, I I put on my contortionist hat and uh you know mimicked my favorite Circus LA performers and bent my body backwards into every hole of that car, which I'm really seeing like how it's easier for Tom Cruise to make movies coming in at like 6'2, like you know, above 250.
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I'm not the smallest of person, so finding holes to kind of navigate in was difficult, but uh ultimately because we were able to obviously use the entire front cab of the car because there is no driver, right?
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So we're just filming you know front to back, it did give us a lot of angles, and then we just married it up with uh you know 16 millimeter 4mm lines, give us giving us a wider look.
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Uh, but yeah.
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Um but now hold on, your camera equipment is not exactly small, and you have the boom mic in there too, right?
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Like, am I wrong?
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That's luckily we did in a we did uh roll the sunroof back, so the boom mic was above and kind of booming through the sunroof, and then we had all each actor lobbed up, and then we had about like four lobs set within the interior of the car in like different places.
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So we were getting fantastic audio with very little work from our audio department, like when we're actually excuse me, uh shooting, but camera-wise, it was yeah, the camera was an RE 34 or 35 rather, and it probably weighed about uh 27-30 pounds, and the whole setup, right?
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It it's it's a good foot, maybe foot and a couple inches.
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So that just had to get pressed into every kind of hole that we could fit fit it into.
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Um, but it definitely didn't make it easy.
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Like these new GoPro cameras that just came out with where you can actually put lenses on the GoPro cameras, right?
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We could have just like put them all around the car and been like, okay, go.
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Right.
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Well, I was thinking it's like I do my filming mostly with my Google Pixel because it'll do 4K, but it's like, you know, I mean that's there's some sacrifices that come with that too, you know, at the same time.
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But I'm like, it makes it easy to have something so small.
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But I was like, man, that is a lot, not a lot of space for a lot of equipment.
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And I actually it reminds me when I was little, I used to before seatbelt walls, I used to climb up in the back window of our car and lay up on that little shelf thing they had in the big uh sedans back in the day.
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I was like, I can just picture you like kind of across like this with your legs up in the window curled up.
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Like, my my thing is like once the shot's over, though, how many times did you have to go, okay, unfold me, unfold me now?
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That was literally almost every single time we would get done with the take, and we and our actors were fantastic.
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We filmed this very much like a more uh a theater play, right?
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So it was a total of you know 24 to 30 pages.
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It got cut down in the edit to be a little bit shorter.
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Uh, but when we were filming it and going through it, because you do have breaks in the actual script, uh, but you know, those breaks aren't it's not like when you end a movie and it's like, oh, okay, you know, you're we're restarting the next chapter of the movie, right?
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They're they fluidly flow into the next one.
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So when we're in one position with our actors, we're not changing locations, there's not a lot of movement.
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It was easier and it felt more natural to just kind of blow through 15 pages at a time until we started having elements from outside of the car interacting with them, or we needed to actually have the actors reacting to an eyeline that we had to actually move outside of the vehicle.
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And we were blessed because they were both fantastic.
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Aaron and Dominic uh handled going through 15 pages of dialogue like nothing multiple times from every single angle.
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Uh, the trade-off load, like you were saying, I was stuck there for 15 to 20 minutes at a time, and at the end of each take, I someone please take the camera.
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Like Jerry, and I have a bad back too, or at least I've been working on it, it's been getting better, but it was it was pretty bad at the time.
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This is not exactly rehab practice.
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I feel like I was living my best golem life ever.
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Oh no, it's funny because I'm sure we keep hearing how claustrophobic, thank god, that for other people watching it it feels when you're in the car with this couple arguing and things are on down.
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I can tell you that it was not just me and Dominic playing Derek that are actor, it was the three of us always in that car.
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I mean, I can imagine than you feel when watching it for sure.
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But all that we could see from back seat, regardless of his position, my camera, and his screen with my hat logo, because he was just like crunched in.
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I can imagine the chiropatrick bills now.
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I mean uh jazz says hi to Famarille, loved y'all in ZombieCon.
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Oh, thank you so much.
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And super hubby says, Hey y'all, hey super hubby.
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So you got lots of love coming in.
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Oh, and we still have the magic on the new streaming that we do now.
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So well, she does, it's awesome.
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Nice, I love the fireworks, beautiful.
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Oh, yeah, we got all sorts of cool stuff.
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Some Disney like universal magic right there.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah, sorts of fun, yeah.
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Uh yeah.
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Um, I mean, I really do appreciate you guys joining us again though, because last time with the echo, I wanted to get the information out there because it's such a cool project, but it's it was very tacting to like sit there and hear ourselves echo chamber throughout the whole podcast.
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So we really appreciate it.
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And see, he was thinking that it was a total bonus.
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I just gotta hear myself speak more.
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And it was like, it's all good.
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Uh Joy said her internet went out just when Aaron was starting to tell what micro horror was.
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She had to watch the beginning live so she could find out what it was.
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Oh no.
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There you go.
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Quick recap.
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I was trying to think of the word cliff notes.
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What did I think?
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Quick version.
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Oh my god, yes, I got those.
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It's like anything is exactly.
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That was actually pre-AI summaries.
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Uh so hold on, before we get too deep into uh some of it, um, can y'all explain what Screamify is?
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Because Screamify is the app that this is actually on, and uh a lot of people may not have heard of it because it's fairly new, but it's really cool.
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But before I answer that, um can you connect that with a question that I have as to how this started?
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Because those two answers actually connect to each other.
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Absolutely.
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So Screamify is an awesome independent streaming platform, it's kind of like the new shutter, but it's for independent or it only started about a year or so ago, and yet they've just been expanding and growing.
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They're basically all continents.
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The library grows by the day, it's not just or just an app or um, but definitely check them out to their website and download it on any app store.
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However, we became connected with them a year ago when we launched our feature film volume one.
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Um our first feature film got picked up by them for streaming, and cool enough, the founder, Sean Overbeat, wanted to set up a call with us.
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And during the call, we got along fabulously and chatting about this thing with all the micro wars we're doing.
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And vertical micro wars, you know, binge wash and on your phone, short episodes, and yet two word production, we had an idea and took a product one.
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Fast forward to the next day, we've got script in our inbox, we love it.
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We're saying we're in as a production company, and the contracts are being signed, and so the whole thing happened really, really fast.
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But they brought us on.
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So it happened as fast as a micro tour.
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Yes, yes, yes, indeed.
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It was the quickest pre-production that we've ever experienced where it was just like, okay, are you interested?
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And being able to obviously make any narrative film is fantastic, but being able to do something that was you know, it was touchable from our reality, but it was also this element of science fiction growing up in the 90s, right?
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Self-driving cars, that's it's crazy.
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Like, I know that they exist now, but it's still crazy that they exist.
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And they're on the road and they're just kind of rolling out.
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I'm like, how many times in my life am I gonna be like, hey, there's a piece of civilian technology that's brand new that you can get in today that you can make a story about?
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And it's like that's not gonna come around very often.
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So we jumped all over it, and it was a fantastic experience.
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Honestly, horrifying to do the research on it because I had to get in them.
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Um my gosh.
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Yeah, I if you're did you learn a lot about them before y'all did this?
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Yeah, no, I went down the rabbit hole.
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I found I like all again, the information has like quadrupled in the amount of time since when we started making this to today, and their rollout has quadrupled because just everything is happening so quickly.
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And I say back then, right?
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Six months ago, seven months ago, there wasn't that much information.
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I think there was like one subreddit thread that I could find that had information about these things in Atlanta.
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So by the way, why isn't always Reddit?
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Like bless Reddit.
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There's always some random thread for the ridiculously specific thing that you need.
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Right.
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There's lots of information on it, and that's the only place you can find it.
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The internet experts, but I remember back one of the Wolverine movies had it where they had the semis that were autonomous.
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Yeah, so they've been, I mean, they've been portrayed in motion pictures, right?
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Even if you think back to minority report, right?
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They're all scene with Tom Cruise like kind of riding in, he gets locked in the car.
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So that's been a mainstay in science fiction, which is so interesting.
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That we were doing a science fiction movie that was science fiction.
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It was like, no, these are right here.
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Well, yeah, and they never end well.
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So why are they doing this?
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Wasn't that the idea's great?
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It's just the Skynet part that gets bad.
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Wasn't that movie Eagle Eye with Charles LaBeouf sort of like that?
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Yeah, uh, it was an AI, AI was the villain.
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Yeah, that was another great one, and it very much riffed right off a minority report where it kind of orchestrated the whole thing in the background.
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And there was one with uh the guy who starred in Guardians of the Galaxy.
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I'm blanking on his name.
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Chris Pratt.
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Chris Pratt that came out uh recently.
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It was it was great, and like the AI plays like basically uh Chris Pratt and Millie Brown, Millie Bobby Brown.
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It was it was very good, but again, all these things explore these dystopian futures that we're yeah, hopefully we're not headed towards a dystopian version of the future.
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No, we sky net turns out to be the electric state illnesses, the electric state, you know.
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The electric state that was a good one.
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Oh, that was the one he was talking about with Chris Pratt.
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Oh, yeah, electric state, yeah, and it's like okay, people make fun of us, you know, as cakes and stuff, but it's like um we can tell you stop it.
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Yeah, the fun is made up until they want an answer to a question we only have that we've already seen and told you it's not gonna work, and then they're like, but how do we fix it?
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And we're like, well, we could have told you it wasn't gonna work.
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Um, you might want to just break it because it's already broken.
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Hey, so not all sci-fi goes bad, okay?
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Not all sci-fi goes true.
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Nine out of ten times.
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Yeah, well, Star Trek has has has uh AI in like the the ships and stuff, it doesn't go bad.
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Give me all of it uh and his brother okay, granted, but like what about the ships themselves?
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You know, the food replicators, the same replicators when the replicators went bad in Star Wars, Star Trek, they they have gone bad.
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Yes, but there's good robots out there, like my job.
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And and replicators depends upon which star which sci-fi show you're watching, because replicators in Stargate and replicators in Star Wars are two different sites of replicators.
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Okay, okay.
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Let me step back into Screamify and add the sci-fi for just saying you're talking to Sci-Fi Geek.
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I can go this off.
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I actually I actually found Screamify, like they were being suggested in my feed on social media, and that's where I first found them.
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And their price is really great too, guys.
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So, like if you're looking for a truly greatly priced, uh solely supporting an independent creators uh you know project, that is the one to stream.
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I believe right now, or I believe when I first got it, it was a dollar or$2.99, and I don't know that they'll ever change that price from what I understand, which is great.
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I'm sorry about my voice, guys.
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I just got over some stuff, so I'm still a little squeaky, but yeah, like it is such a great uh streaming app.
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I highly recommend it.
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I don't get anything out of that, I just think it's great.
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And also, I did suggest to them that they should put ZombieCon in their catalog at one point before it was in there.
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So hopefully that gave them kind of a direction to head towards you guys, and I'm glad that they did.
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Uh, they also you also have like a behind-the-scenes thing on or behind the screens, I think is what they call it, for autonomous that's on there too.
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So you kind of see a little bit of what was happening with that in that one, right?
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We were in the middle of production, like a couple days in, and we were chatting with Sean, you know, on the phone and said, Oh, I've got an idea, you know, just throwing this out there.
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What do you think about if I hired a reality crew to call you guys tomorrow and document your day of shooting for a behind-the-screens whole episode that you could do on the show?
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Um yes.
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We're in, uh, what are the negatives and we don't even want to know?
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Let's do it.
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It was it was amazing.
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They showed up the next day, it was a really talented crew, and they had us narrating different things and just filming all the different areas kind of where we were behind the scenes and in the shoot, and following Kyle, following me.
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And Kyle has said it best as well.
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It was very surreal when they were lobbing up our sound guy and lobbing up Kyle and lobbing up, you know, everyone that we were already lobbing up, they were then lobbing up lobbing up.
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I'm watching right the sound guy lob up the actors as the sound guy is lobbed up by their crew, like followed by someone else.
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And it was just and our behind the scenes guy is following the documentary, documenting us, like documenting the documentary guys.
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It was kind of like an echo of the video.
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Yeah, it's like endless content slash perspectives that you can you know what that reminds me of following the leader, that little song from um um um Peter Pan when they're all just following the leader.
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I can't wait for the thing because you've never become obsessed with just a little bit of Peter Pan, just one and a half, from some stickers that are in her book.
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And so I have now been listening to you can buy, you can fly, you can buy.
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Oh yeah, I think my favorite part about having little ones was getting to go back and rewatch all the stuff like that.
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From a new perspective, too.
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Like the things they get obsessed with are like really like she really likes the five-second little piece there where Peter talks to Wendy and he's like, Look, right there, Wendy, it's the second star, like all it home.
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And she just played it a little bit over and over, and she'd be Peter, talk, talk, talk.
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Oh my gosh.
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It's so cool.
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So how long did it take you from like day one shooting to end shooting?
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Uh well, we had an initial basically shooting schedule of one week.
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And then I got in the editing booth.
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I re like we had we had a winter storm that happened in the middle of shooting.
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made it impossible to get a laymo.
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They we think that they pulled the lamo's.
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There was no official documentation on this, but we we had already scoped out the spots where they usually pick people up because they're geo-locked in the city of Atlanta.
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So they'll only show up in these specific areas.
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And I had tracked them, I had marked out locations on a map, got everyone together.
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They never showed up.
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So that was a desert so we ended up coming back for another like three or so days.
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So total uh shooting wise we're about 10 days in and then the real work came in uh post-production with the VFX we had a a lot of VFX to do for poor man's process so we did shoot in actual lamos uh but we also shot a lot inside basically a self-made soundstage in a garage on blue screen and that was just a lot of pulling and Erin's hair is very very difficult to pull off of a blue screen um then is nightmare fuel for all I'm not talking about your hair talk about the whistle try trying to keep it yeah I've I've done some editing with like footage before so I know what you're talking about because trying to like keep all those little strands I'm like you know do I really need that little strand that can just go away and our our makeup artist who is fantastic Nicole Macaulay who also played Mama Bear in ZombieCon uh she styled Erin's makeup and hair and I think she did a a beautiful job but she what we're talking about initially she's like I want her to have a little bit of a disheveled look right this is like a rough dinner I I thought it felt very like it felt very real for the character in that moment so the hair wasn't like perfectly like sleek down matted back it it had a little bit of fizz and like you know volume to it I didn't think about post production wise that volume and that hair kind of like tendrils off of it.
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Oh I wasn't really thinking about how hard it was going to be to basically pull off of that and then re-add it if need be but ultimately it turned out great just took a lot of elbow grease on my end uh and I think the look really worked fantastic although if I ever shoot her on a blue screen or green screen again uh we're going it's like back yeah very long you know what just like pull it all back like no hair control put a hat on there too that's just the extra safe so how long was your post production then uh I'd say that post production probably was two two months two months two months oh wow yeah oh well a lot of that render time shock could take 12 hours to render so you know if something goes wrong you could look at maybe spending 54 hours of render time on a single shot and that's just where it eats away at your timeline.
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Okay so comparative to zombie con how long did it take you to shoot zombie con now that we know the micro horror one it was about a 20 day shoot yeah it was under a month and then post production was oh post production on zombie con was nine years so we we blew this one out of the we were fantastic when I'm not talking this on an epic journey a saga it was you know frodo going all the way like that took its own whole journey this was like a very planned out executed we knew what we were doing we had all the equipment Kyle had already like gained every every skill that he needed to do it ahead of time just it was a totally different space that we were in and project yeah zombie cunt was like making a movie plus film school so those like they got married together on that one so I think it was the learning curve was high yeah especially trying the audio for a feature film trying to like do Adobe Atlas mix.
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Um yeah I my brain was broken by the time I got to that so I suffered a little bit of like a a meltdown that probably cost us two years because I just couldn't shove any more information into my head.
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And when you get to like a jaw editor and you're looking at you know a thousand different lines of audio from everything you know dialogue to you know filled like fill sounds like uh foley sounds atmosphere sounds like all the way down the list and there's just so many and you're I'm like trying to make it super professional so everything is like so layered up and yeah it was and just getting the speakers into a correct configuration is like a whole process in and of itself it's yeah I don't want to relive that ever again I'm happy I don't but I really wish someone just tapped me on the shoulder and was like hey we love this movie here's a million dollars to go get it finished and like right I that was now I think do you think I learned enough that the next one will be a lot faster then yeah so we had we had done a feature film in between uh zombie con and autonomous called it's watching and literally we blasted through that in probably six months uh and it's the tail end of post-production and it just keeps getting put off now because we keep having more projects come through the front door and that's kind of a passion project and you know it doesn't it it stars mainly me so I'm probably dragging my feet on it a little bit more because I don't know maybe I'm better suited to behind the camera so you know we'll see what happens with it.
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And we're not just gonna like shoot something out there and then move on to the next thing we're gonna take our time and talk about it and reach out to people and like actually put a release uh so it's we need a couple more strokes on it and to have you know the right timing and the right plan for it as well but it's just we have a we have a few comments uh joy says original total recall had autonomous cabs uh trev says so glad you switched platforms he says yakko monsters were not welcomed oh that would be a good topic for one of your episodes have the pixies attacking um yeah yeah no absolutely so I feel like I can't the uh I can't call with the streamer um there was a movie that came out recently with a podcaster that was fantastic it was a great harm with it a little bottle film um I'm so sorry I told you Undertone that's the name yes yeah it's it's great it there's no echoes but there's something possibly worse.
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Do we I can't remember I asked I can't remember what the answer was do do you would you mind giving us a hint into what's next for you or you're not allowed.
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The feature that we just said in post production at some point it's watching is going to come out but then we also got like three different features that are circling right now.
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It just depends on the financing coming together and which one all come together first they're very different.
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They could be in a horror or a darkly comedic type of film it it just depends but yeah there's so we're working yeah I can't really say too much about it but I can say that we're partnered with a very big YouTube channel and we're developing that into a feature film.
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And it comes to the vibe of a feature film and that's like one of the near term projects that's coming down the pipeline very soon.
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Okay cool.
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Well reach out to us let us know when it is um in the meantime uh everybody needs to get your ones to ready make sure to keep your eyes on big squid films Instagram that's B-I-G S Q U I D F L I M S thank you guys for giving us a second shot we appreciate it I'm glad we're able to get through without any pixie strikes oh we pleasure having y'all anytime you would like to have us back we're always down for we love being like I said next time you have something out reach out and make sure and let us know we love having guys out um so mommy gonna take us out all right uh what do we have next week cj oh we have Cricut Lee V A voice actress for May is there yes yes May from Avatar the Last Airbender yes oh my gosh I just so excited and till next time make sure that y'all smash that thumbs up and share this out because a lot of people need to hear about this and especially now that we have no echoes in this episode and get the word out um till next time make sure you're following CJ Peterson Mombiroah uh Juju the cosplayer on Instagram Facebook YouTube and all the things and of course Magic Making Myship on Facebook so till next time oh did we have their link because I know it's not scrolling did you already go through that scrolling and scrolling oh I'm not seeing things oh my screen doesn't show the whole thing yes okay yes that's what she just said and I've already known the following screamify yes and screamify go stream it you won't regret it if you are a horror fan at all that is their big thing but also they have other stuff coming in too and they're adding to their catalog all the time including classics so check it out chill then guys get your wands up because it is mischief managed
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Hey all, just a quick second, and everybody will be in here.
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Hey, Magic Makers.
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I'm Mombirella.
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Juju Jones right here.
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I'm TJ Peterson.
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Welcome to Magic Mickey Mischief.
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Get your wands to the ready.
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Because we solemnly swear we're up to no good.
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And speaking of up to no good, it looks like the pixies jumped in a little too fast for me today.
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They kind of jumped the gun on me.
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But that's okay.
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Because we have with us today no echo, but we have with us Erin, Ann, and Kyle Vale, and we're going to be talking about Autonomous, their short film, short micro horror, which is kind of cool.
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But um would you guys explain to those who may not know what a micro horror is?
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Let's start there.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So, oh, sorry.
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This is our daughter's wand that is making everywhere.
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Adding to the magic, yes.
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So the micro horror from Scream Pie, they've got three different series out currently.
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Ours is one of them, autonomous.
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It's 16 episodes, 28 minutes total.
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It's shot vertically.
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So they're divided up into like one to two minute episodes.
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You can watch it on your own.
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Get the whole thing done faster than watch one episode of a random show.
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And uh you find it hopefully really entertaining, a little bit claustrophobic and horrifying too.
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Yeah.
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Uh do you want to get the basic premise without giving away too much information on what this movie is?
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Absolutely.
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So it's called autonomous, and it's based on a couple I played one week style directed.
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And yeah, they start out in a horrible situation.
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They've had an awful dinner, they're arguing in the back of a driverless way mo.
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GOMO.
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Uh yeah, it's a driverless autonomous vehicle.
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And things take a turn for the worse when the Go starts taking them in the wrong direction.
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Creepy things start happening, and basically everything gets shot to hell.
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Great.
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Um, okay.
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This is kind of like my worst nightmare.
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Uh not gonna lie.
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I don't even use Siri on my phone.
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I I not not not one of those things that I like to do.
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Um, I actually am glad you're back because after we did the first one of these episodes with you guys talking about autonomous, where we had the pixies come in and wreak havoc on our episode.
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I kid you not, we saw a semi that was autonomous.
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And I'm like, no.
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And super hobby told me he said, Yeah, they're actually starting to do that now.
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I said, Okay, an auto like small was bad enough, but an 18-wheeler, like a semi long.
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Can you imagine one of those things going off?
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No, not okay.
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It sounds like a great horror movie.
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I can just I can see the whole thing right now.
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Yeah, it's like Steven Spielberg's first movie, right?
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Drive or whatever.
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That's what I was actually thinking, too.
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She called me freaking out about it, and I was thinking that I was like, Yeah, that's I remember that movie.
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It was was overdrive, right?
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I think it was drive.
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I I may be wrong though.
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Honestly, but the truck just kept coming.
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That's all I can remember about it.
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So it just kept coming.
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I thought it was called Overdrive.
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You know what?
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If it wasn't called Overdrive, that would have been a superior name.
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I like it.
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I mean, I I just I feel like asking when people are inventing this stuff, I feel like saying, Did you not watch the movie?
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Yeah, it was called that.
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I think it was called that.
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Okay.
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We have cousin Marissa here, and she says hi and sends her love, obviously.
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Um, but I gotta ask, how did you film it?
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Because I did some of the pictures on the reel, and it's actually a car.
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So I I kind of see it kind of it you kind of contortionist.
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How did you do it?
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I would have 100% expected the roof of the car to be missing in some of like the shots because the way that you got in the you're literally in the car with you this whole time, and then it's amazing.
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Yeah, how'd you do it?
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Well, I I put on my contortionist hat and uh you know mimicked my favorite Circus LA performers and bent my body backwards into every hole of that car, which I'm really seeing like how it's easier for Tom Cruise to make movies coming in at like 6'2, like you know, above 250.
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I'm not the smallest of person, so finding holes to kind of navigate in was difficult, but uh ultimately because we were able to obviously use the entire front cab of the car because there is no driver, right?
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So we're just filming you know front to back, it did give us a lot of angles, and then we just married it up with uh you know 16 millimeter 4mm lines, give us giving us a wider look.
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Uh, but yeah.
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Um but now hold on, your camera equipment is not exactly small, and you have the boom mic in there too, right?
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Like, am I wrong?
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That's luckily we did in a we did uh roll the sunroof back, so the boom mic was above and kind of booming through the sunroof, and then we had all each actor lobbed up, and then we had about like four lobs set within the interior of the car in like different places.
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So we were getting fantastic audio with very little work from our audio department, like when we're actually excuse me, uh shooting, but camera-wise, it was yeah, the camera was an RE 34 or 35 rather, and it probably weighed about uh 27-30 pounds, and the whole setup, right?
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It it's it's a good foot, maybe foot and a couple inches.
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So that just had to get pressed into every kind of hole that we could fit fit it into.
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Um, but it definitely didn't make it easy.
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Like these new GoPro cameras that just came out with where you can actually put lenses on the GoPro cameras, right?
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We could have just like put them all around the car and been like, okay, go.
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Right.
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Well, I was thinking it's like I do my filming mostly with my Google Pixel because it'll do 4K, but it's like, you know, I mean that's there's some sacrifices that come with that too, you know, at the same time.
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But I'm like, it makes it easy to have something so small.
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But I was like, man, that is a lot, not a lot of space for a lot of equipment.
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And I actually it reminds me when I was little, I used to before seatbelt walls, I used to climb up in the back window of our car and lay up on that little shelf thing they had in the big uh sedans back in the day.
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I was like, I can just picture you like kind of across like this with your legs up in the window curled up.
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Like, my my thing is like once the shot's over, though, how many times did you have to go, okay, unfold me, unfold me now?
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That was literally almost every single time we would get done with the take, and we and our actors were fantastic.
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We filmed this very much like a more uh a theater play, right?
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So it was a total of you know 24 to 30 pages.
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It got cut down in the edit to be a little bit shorter.
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Uh, but when we were filming it and going through it, because you do have breaks in the actual script, uh, but you know, those breaks aren't it's not like when you end a movie and it's like, oh, okay, you know, you're we're restarting the next chapter of the movie, right?
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They're they fluidly flow into the next one.
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So when we're in one position with our actors, we're not changing locations, there's not a lot of movement.
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It was easier and it felt more natural to just kind of blow through 15 pages at a time until we started having elements from outside of the car interacting with them, or we needed to actually have the actors reacting to an eyeline that we had to actually move outside of the vehicle.
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And we were blessed because they were both fantastic.
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Aaron and Dominic uh handled going through 15 pages of dialogue like nothing multiple times from every single angle.
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Uh, the trade-off load, like you were saying, I was stuck there for 15 to 20 minutes at a time, and at the end of each take, I someone please take the camera.
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Like Jerry, and I have a bad back too, or at least I've been working on it, it's been getting better, but it was it was pretty bad at the time.
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This is not exactly rehab practice.
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I feel like I was living my best golem life ever.
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Oh no, it's funny because I'm sure we keep hearing how claustrophobic, thank god, that for other people watching it it feels when you're in the car with this couple arguing and things are on down.
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I can tell you that it was not just me and Dominic playing Derek that are actor, it was the three of us always in that car.
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I mean, I can imagine than you feel when watching it for sure.
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But all that we could see from back seat, regardless of his position, my camera, and his screen with my hat logo, because he was just like crunched in.
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I can imagine the chiropatrick bills now.
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I mean uh jazz says hi to Famarille, loved y'all in ZombieCon.
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Oh, thank you so much.
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And super hubby says, Hey y'all, hey super hubby.
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So you got lots of love coming in.
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Oh, and we still have the magic on the new streaming that we do now.
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So well, she does, it's awesome.
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Nice, I love the fireworks, beautiful.
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Oh, yeah, we got all sorts of cool stuff.
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Some Disney like universal magic right there.
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Oh my god.
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Yeah, sorts of fun, yeah.
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Uh yeah.
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Um, I mean, I really do appreciate you guys joining us again though, because last time with the echo, I wanted to get the information out there because it's such a cool project, but it's it was very tacting to like sit there and hear ourselves echo chamber throughout the whole podcast.
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So we really appreciate it.
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And see, he was thinking that it was a total bonus.
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I just gotta hear myself speak more.
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And it was like, it's all good.
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Uh Joy said her internet went out just when Aaron was starting to tell what micro horror was.
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She had to watch the beginning live so she could find out what it was.
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Oh no.
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There you go.
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Quick recap.
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I was trying to think of the word cliff notes.
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What did I think?
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Quick version.
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Oh my god, yes, I got those.
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It's like anything is exactly.
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That was actually pre-AI summaries.
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Uh so hold on, before we get too deep into uh some of it, um, can y'all explain what Screamify is?
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Because Screamify is the app that this is actually on, and uh a lot of people may not have heard of it because it's fairly new, but it's really cool.
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But before I answer that, um can you connect that with a question that I have as to how this started?
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Because those two answers actually connect to each other.
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Absolutely.
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So Screamify is an awesome independent streaming platform, it's kind of like the new shutter, but it's for independent or it only started about a year or so ago, and yet they've just been expanding and growing.
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They're basically all continents.
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The library grows by the day, it's not just or just an app or um, but definitely check them out to their website and download it on any app store.
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However, we became connected with them a year ago when we launched our feature film volume one.
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Um our first feature film got picked up by them for streaming, and cool enough, the founder, Sean Overbeat, wanted to set up a call with us.
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And during the call, we got along fabulously and chatting about this thing with all the micro wars we're doing.
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And vertical micro wars, you know, binge wash and on your phone, short episodes, and yet two word production, we had an idea and took a product one.
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Fast forward to the next day, we've got script in our inbox, we love it.
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We're saying we're in as a production company, and the contracts are being signed, and so the whole thing happened really, really fast.
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But they brought us on.
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So it happened as fast as a micro tour.
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Yes, yes, yes, indeed.
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It was the quickest pre-production that we've ever experienced where it was just like, okay, are you interested?
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And being able to obviously make any narrative film is fantastic, but being able to do something that was you know, it was touchable from our reality, but it was also this element of science fiction growing up in the 90s, right?
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Self-driving cars, that's it's crazy.
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Like, I know that they exist now, but it's still crazy that they exist.
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And they're on the road and they're just kind of rolling out.
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I'm like, how many times in my life am I gonna be like, hey, there's a piece of civilian technology that's brand new that you can get in today that you can make a story about?
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And it's like that's not gonna come around very often.
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So we jumped all over it, and it was a fantastic experience.
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Honestly, horrifying to do the research on it because I had to get in them.
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Um my gosh.
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Yeah, I if you're did you learn a lot about them before y'all did this?
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Yeah, no, I went down the rabbit hole.
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I found I like all again, the information has like quadrupled in the amount of time since when we started making this to today, and their rollout has quadrupled because just everything is happening so quickly.
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And I say back then, right?
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Six months ago, seven months ago, there wasn't that much information.
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I think there was like one subreddit thread that I could find that had information about these things in Atlanta.
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So by the way, why isn't always Reddit?
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Like bless Reddit.
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There's always some random thread for the ridiculously specific thing that you need.
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Right.
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There's lots of information on it, and that's the only place you can find it.
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The internet experts, but I remember back one of the Wolverine movies had it where they had the semis that were autonomous.
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Yeah, so they've been, I mean, they've been portrayed in motion pictures, right?
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Even if you think back to minority report, right?
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They're all scene with Tom Cruise like kind of riding in, he gets locked in the car.
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So that's been a mainstay in science fiction, which is so interesting.
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That we were doing a science fiction movie that was science fiction.
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It was like, no, these are right here.
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Well, yeah, and they never end well.
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So why are they doing this?
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Wasn't that the idea's great?
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It's just the Skynet part that gets bad.
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Wasn't that movie Eagle Eye with Charles LaBeouf sort of like that?
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Yeah, uh, it was an AI, AI was the villain.
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Yeah, that was another great one, and it very much riffed right off a minority report where it kind of orchestrated the whole thing in the background.
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And there was one with uh the guy who starred in Guardians of the Galaxy.
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I'm blanking on his name.
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Chris Pratt.
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Chris Pratt that came out uh recently.
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It was it was great, and like the AI plays like basically uh Chris Pratt and Millie Brown, Millie Bobby Brown.
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It was it was very good, but again, all these things explore these dystopian futures that we're yeah, hopefully we're not headed towards a dystopian version of the future.
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No, we sky net turns out to be the electric state illnesses, the electric state, you know.
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The electric state that was a good one.
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Oh, that was the one he was talking about with Chris Pratt.
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Oh, yeah, electric state, yeah, and it's like okay, people make fun of us, you know, as cakes and stuff, but it's like um we can tell you stop it.
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Yeah, the fun is made up until they want an answer to a question we only have that we've already seen and told you it's not gonna work, and then they're like, but how do we fix it?
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And we're like, well, we could have told you it wasn't gonna work.
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Um, you might want to just break it because it's already broken.
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Hey, so not all sci-fi goes bad, okay?
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Not all sci-fi goes true.
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Nine out of ten times.
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Yeah, well, Star Trek has has has uh AI in like the the ships and stuff, it doesn't go bad.
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Give me all of it uh and his brother okay, granted, but like what about the ships themselves?
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You know, the food replicators, the same replicators when the replicators went bad in Star Wars, Star Trek, they they have gone bad.
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Yes, but there's good robots out there, like my job.
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And and replicators depends upon which star which sci-fi show you're watching, because replicators in Stargate and replicators in Star Wars are two different sites of replicators.
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Okay, okay.
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Let me step back into Screamify and add the sci-fi for just saying you're talking to Sci-Fi Geek.
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I can go this off.
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I actually I actually found Screamify, like they were being suggested in my feed on social media, and that's where I first found them.
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And their price is really great too, guys.
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So, like if you're looking for a truly greatly priced, uh solely supporting an independent creators uh you know project, that is the one to stream.
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I believe right now, or I believe when I first got it, it was a dollar or$2.99, and I don't know that they'll ever change that price from what I understand, which is great.
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I'm sorry about my voice, guys.
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I just got over some stuff, so I'm still a little squeaky, but yeah, like it is such a great uh streaming app.
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I highly recommend it.
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I don't get anything out of that, I just think it's great.
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And also, I did suggest to them that they should put ZombieCon in their catalog at one point before it was in there.
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So hopefully that gave them kind of a direction to head towards you guys, and I'm glad that they did.
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Uh, they also you also have like a behind-the-scenes thing on or behind the screens, I think is what they call it, for autonomous that's on there too.
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So you kind of see a little bit of what was happening with that in that one, right?
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We were in the middle of production, like a couple days in, and we were chatting with Sean, you know, on the phone and said, Oh, I've got an idea, you know, just throwing this out there.
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What do you think about if I hired a reality crew to call you guys tomorrow and document your day of shooting for a behind-the-screens whole episode that you could do on the show?
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Um yes.
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We're in, uh, what are the negatives and we don't even want to know?
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Let's do it.
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It was it was amazing.
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They showed up the next day, it was a really talented crew, and they had us narrating different things and just filming all the different areas kind of where we were behind the scenes and in the shoot, and following Kyle, following me.
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And Kyle has said it best as well.
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It was very surreal when they were lobbing up our sound guy and lobbing up Kyle and lobbing up, you know, everyone that we were already lobbing up, they were then lobbing up lobbing up.
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I'm watching right the sound guy lob up the actors as the sound guy is lobbed up by their crew, like followed by someone else.
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And it was just and our behind the scenes guy is following the documentary, documenting us, like documenting the documentary guys.
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It was kind of like an echo of the video.
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Yeah, it's like endless content slash perspectives that you can you know what that reminds me of following the leader, that little song from um um um Peter Pan when they're all just following the leader.
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I can't wait for the thing because you've never become obsessed with just a little bit of Peter Pan, just one and a half, from some stickers that are in her book.
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And so I have now been listening to you can buy, you can fly, you can buy.
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Oh yeah, I think my favorite part about having little ones was getting to go back and rewatch all the stuff like that.
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From a new perspective, too.
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Like the things they get obsessed with are like really like she really likes the five-second little piece there where Peter talks to Wendy and he's like, Look, right there, Wendy, it's the second star, like all it home.
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And she just played it a little bit over and over, and she'd be Peter, talk, talk, talk.
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Oh my gosh.
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It's so cool.
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So how long did it take you from like day one shooting to end shooting?
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Uh well, we had an initial basically shooting schedule of one week.
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And then I got in the editing booth.
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I re like we had we had a winter storm that happened in the middle of shooting.
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made it impossible to get a laymo.
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They we think that they pulled the lamo's.
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There was no official documentation on this, but we we had already scoped out the spots where they usually pick people up because they're geo-locked in the city of Atlanta.
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So they'll only show up in these specific areas.
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And I had tracked them, I had marked out locations on a map, got everyone together.
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They never showed up.
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So that was a desert so we ended up coming back for another like three or so days.
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So total uh shooting wise we're about 10 days in and then the real work came in uh post-production with the VFX we had a a lot of VFX to do for poor man's process so we did shoot in actual lamos uh but we also shot a lot inside basically a self-made soundstage in a garage on blue screen and that was just a lot of pulling and Erin's hair is very very difficult to pull off of a blue screen um then is nightmare fuel for all I'm not talking about your hair talk about the whistle try trying to keep it yeah I've I've done some editing with like footage before so I know what you're talking about because trying to like keep all those little strands I'm like you know do I really need that little strand that can just go away and our our makeup artist who is fantastic Nicole Macaulay who also played Mama Bear in ZombieCon uh she styled Erin's makeup and hair and I think she did a a beautiful job but she what we're talking about initially she's like I want her to have a little bit of a disheveled look right this is like a rough dinner I I thought it felt very like it felt very real for the character in that moment so the hair wasn't like perfectly like sleek down matted back it it had a little bit of fizz and like you know volume to it I didn't think about post production wise that volume and that hair kind of like tendrils off of it.
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Oh I wasn't really thinking about how hard it was going to be to basically pull off of that and then re-add it if need be but ultimately it turned out great just took a lot of elbow grease on my end uh and I think the look really worked fantastic although if I ever shoot her on a blue screen or green screen again uh we're going it's like back yeah very long you know what just like pull it all back like no hair control put a hat on there too that's just the extra safe so how long was your post production then uh I'd say that post production probably was two two months two months two months oh wow yeah oh well a lot of that render time shock could take 12 hours to render so you know if something goes wrong you could look at maybe spending 54 hours of render time on a single shot and that's just where it eats away at your timeline.
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Okay so comparative to zombie con how long did it take you to shoot zombie con now that we know the micro horror one it was about a 20 day shoot yeah it was under a month and then post production was oh post production on zombie con was nine years so we we blew this one out of the we were fantastic when I'm not talking this on an epic journey a saga it was you know frodo going all the way like that took its own whole journey this was like a very planned out executed we knew what we were doing we had all the equipment Kyle had already like gained every every skill that he needed to do it ahead of time just it was a totally different space that we were in and project yeah zombie cunt was like making a movie plus film school so those like they got married together on that one so I think it was the learning curve was high yeah especially trying the audio for a feature film trying to like do Adobe Atlas mix.
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Um yeah I my brain was broken by the time I got to that so I suffered a little bit of like a a meltdown that probably cost us two years because I just couldn't shove any more information into my head.
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And when you get to like a jaw editor and you're looking at you know a thousand different lines of audio from everything you know dialogue to you know filled like fill sounds like uh foley sounds atmosphere sounds like all the way down the list and there's just so many and you're I'm like trying to make it super professional so everything is like so layered up and yeah it was and just getting the speakers into a correct configuration is like a whole process in and of itself it's yeah I don't want to relive that ever again I'm happy I don't but I really wish someone just tapped me on the shoulder and was like hey we love this movie here's a million dollars to go get it finished and like right I that was now I think do you think I learned enough that the next one will be a lot faster then yeah so we had we had done a feature film in between uh zombie con and autonomous called it's watching and literally we blasted through that in probably six months uh and it's the tail end of post-production and it just keeps getting put off now because we keep having more projects come through the front door and that's kind of a passion project and you know it doesn't it it stars mainly me so I'm probably dragging my feet on it a little bit more because I don't know maybe I'm better suited to behind the camera so you know we'll see what happens with it.
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And we're not just gonna like shoot something out there and then move on to the next thing we're gonna take our time and talk about it and reach out to people and like actually put a release uh so it's we need a couple more strokes on it and to have you know the right timing and the right plan for it as well but it's just we have a we have a few comments uh joy says original total recall had autonomous cabs uh trev says so glad you switched platforms he says yakko monsters were not welcomed oh that would be a good topic for one of your episodes have the pixies attacking um yeah yeah no absolutely so I feel like I can't the uh I can't call with the streamer um there was a movie that came out recently with a podcaster that was fantastic it was a great harm with it a little bottle film um I'm so sorry I told you Undertone that's the name yes yeah it's it's great it there's no echoes but there's something possibly worse.
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Do we I can't remember I asked I can't remember what the answer was do do you would you mind giving us a hint into what's next for you or you're not allowed.
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The feature that we just said in post production at some point it's watching is going to come out but then we also got like three different features that are circling right now.
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It just depends on the financing coming together and which one all come together first they're very different.
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They could be in a horror or a darkly comedic type of film it it just depends but yeah there's so we're working yeah I can't really say too much about it but I can say that we're partnered with a very big YouTube channel and we're developing that into a feature film.
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And it comes to the vibe of a feature film and that's like one of the near term projects that's coming down the pipeline very soon.
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Okay cool.
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Well reach out to us let us know when it is um in the meantime uh everybody needs to get your ones to ready make sure to keep your eyes on big squid films Instagram that's B-I-G S Q U I D F L I M S thank you guys for giving us a second shot we appreciate it I'm glad we're able to get through without any pixie strikes oh we pleasure having y'all anytime you would like to have us back we're always down for we love being like I said next time you have something out reach out and make sure and let us know we love having guys out um so mommy gonna take us out all right uh what do we have next week cj oh we have Cricut Lee V A voice actress for May is there yes yes May from Avatar the Last Airbender yes oh my gosh I just so excited and till next time make sure that y'all smash that thumbs up and share this out because a lot of people need to hear about this and especially now that we have no echoes in this episode and get the word out um till next time make sure you're following CJ Peterson Mombiroah uh Juju the cosplayer on Instagram Facebook YouTube and all the things and of course Magic Making Myship on Facebook so till next time oh did we have their link because I know it's not scrolling did you already go through that scrolling and scrolling oh I'm not seeing things oh my screen doesn't show the whole thing yes okay yes that's what she just said and I've already known the following screamify yes and screamify go stream it you won't regret it if you are a horror fan at all that is their big thing but also they have other stuff coming in too and they're adding to their catalog all the time including classics so check it out chill then guys get your wands up because it is mischief managed
