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Speaker 1: I'm Teraris Ogilsby from the pre and post game shows on the Hornets TV network. On Fandal, he joins us here on the Mac and Bone show, t what do you think of the news of this trade?
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Speaker 2: Man, I'm just as shocked as you are.
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here. I love nas Reed. I think he's one of the most underappreciated players in the NBA. And that is an area where the Hornets need to get bigger. You see the need for physicality and the play in tournament this year. They need to get a little bit bigger. They need to get a little bit more physical. Nas Reed certainly fits that mold. And it also puts a notice on like how much the Hornets appreciate Kobe White. Yeah, and it also says how much faith they have in Christian Anderson. And guys, I saw Christian Anderson before he was at Texas Tech, playing with the U nineteen World Cup team in Switzerland, and he is really, really stinking good. And it's just he is on the smaller side. But really, what this does to me is it says how much the Hornets love Kobe White, and it looks like they're going to hitch their wagon to the Kobe White Continent and Brandon Miller Express because it doesn't have the flash that LaMelo brings. But there's a whole lot of substance there and you get bigger and more physical with nas read I like the pick swaps. Here's I'm scared. I'll be honest with you, gentlemen. After my Mark Williams debacle, I'm scared to death to say anything without absolutely going through first. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. With Lamello and his injury history and how narrow he has built, is this a cell high situation? Yeah, he played seventy two games. This is a cell high situation because he played extraordinary basketball this year. Did they think, well, this is as good as it gets for LaMelo? That's what my curiosity is. I have talked to nobody in the front office there in Charlotte.
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Speaker 2: This is me speculating the same way you guys are. Yes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Is it a little weird to you on the Minnesota front too? They just signed a sumu and now they go get Is that kind of a weird fit for Mellow? Does it make sense for him?
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Speaker 3: The whole on their side of the ordeal, like they just shipped out Julius Randall. They signed assuming to a big year, a big, big deal, and then it's Lamello and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards is better dominating the ball. Lamello is better dominating the ball. Uh, it's a cure. Excuse me, it's a curious ordeal. How do they manage that? I don't know how that's going to go. But I'm sitting here, I'm looking at all this stuff. Guys without without my rosters in front, you go ahead together. It's that's that's two ball dominant guys on their end and assumed it's kind of in the same mold. So curious how that works.
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Speaker 1: What do you think? Okay, So here's been our stance all day, and we've had all day. Right, the rumors started breaking last night, and credit to Sham's man, a lot of us were doubting, really this is something like this is going to happen this quickly, and he said it last night, could happen twenty four to forty eight hours. And here we go. But you know, a lot of our stance on it had been too that. Hey, this team is after so many frustrating years and in the injury plague years. Man, they really put it together, and it seemed like the new health staff kind of found a way along with the you know brass there, found a way to keep LaMelo healthy. LaMelo seemed to be you know, coachable, right, It seemed like they were getting more defense out of them, and it just we finally had momentum. So it's hard for a Hornets fan to want to break that up, Like, how do you feel about doing this when it feels like we have momentum?
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Speaker 3: You know, the only thing I can come back to. And again, I want to be absolutely clear that this is me speculating. Yes, this is a cell high situation with a mammoth contract with what LaMelo had, and it gives you room to resign Kobe for what he wants. It gives you room to operate a little bit thinking, you know, Minnesota is not going to be able to those first shroud pick swaps are going to be big, because I think the Hornets have faith that they're going to be really tough. I really do. And you look at the collective collective size, I think you know LaMelo was he's narrowly built. He's tall, but he's narrowly built. That type of frame. Typically it sends the message of well, he could get hurt a little bit more. Guys, I'm just as shocked as you are trying to figure this out. But at the same time, I do think. I do think if you're Charlotte and you're looking to get out of the LaMelo business, which would make sense if you're trying to build something sustainable in the long term and not worry about injury. Because he has shown the propensity to get hurt. This is a cell high situation. If you're the Hornet, what.
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Speaker 4: Do you think of the Honests draft pick? Just to go a different direction momentarily, what do you think of Honess?
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Speaker 2: Want me to keep this?
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Speaker 3: You guys want me to keep this ten seconds or less? No, I love honest einboch he was the second best big man at you nineteen Worlds in Switzerland. He goes up to Washington and he gets a forgot about a little bit because the Pacific Northwestern College Basketball. Do they like it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Do they love it? I would say no. I will say this. I've heard comparisons to Steven Adams. He's a better passer than that. I don't think he's quite as big as Steven Adams, but he really rebounds, he's tough, he's got a lot of skill. So is he an absolute upgrade at the five spot? They've drafted really well. I do think he's better offensively than Ryan Kulkbrenner, and he's put together, wider than Kaulkbrenner. He's put together. He's a lot heavier than Musa Diabat. I think he's a starting quality big man. But guys, there's part of me that thinks the Hornets aren't finished with this whole ordeal.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of taking that too. Like, that's a lot of picks they've collect. They already had a lot of picks. Now they've got they've got a lot more.
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Speaker 1: Now you bring in like Bridges as could go right now, because you brought in nas Reed, he's your starting four, drafted in Steinbacher Bridges in another trade at some point. I just I don't know, man, I hope there's more to come, to be honest with you, all right, t O, Let's talk more about Anderson, because all of a sudden, now yesterday, at this time I was hoping we re signed Kobe, we have LaMelo, and Anderson can ease into things right as kind of the third ball handler. Now, like you said, this very well might show. Hey, we love the way our offense played when Kobe was on the court. We can save money and he's our one. We drafted Anderson. They were probably thinking he's ready to be our two on the offensive end. I love Anderson. The shooting's ridiculous, the pick and roll, the savviness of the way he runs a pick and roll is really cool. But you mentioned the size, like is he a target on defense? Like, what do you think about the pros and cons of Christian Anderson?
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Speaker 3: He's much better than kJ Simpsons. Okay, we got that ut, and so that's good news. You know, he played on the German national team with Hannes Steinbach, so there's some connection there and they were really good and pick and roll together. The other portion of that is, you know, he is six y two, but he's got six six six seven wings fans, so he's a little bit longer than giving credit for. He's had some big rebounding moments during the course of the season last year. He competes at a really high level and he could very well be the best shooter in this year's draft. So that's kind of where I'm at with him. I've always been a big fan of his game. There's a certain toughness about him. He's played with the senior national teams, and that Germany.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't just do that, so you have to have some game about you.
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Speaker 3: I'm I think he could come in and play minutes right away. And I don't think they're going to be like figure it out minutes. They're going to be come in and bust a couple shots minutes. So, like I said, though, do I have faith he could play immediately?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: This is a strong draft class. What was he picked at eighteen? Like you, there's quality players at eighteen. Now, I think he's a guy that can come in and play minutes immediately and he going to be able to knock down shots for you quickly.
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Speaker 4: We're talking to Terrence oglesby FanDuel Sports Network here on the Macking Bone Show. Looking up right now, it's surreal all the TVs right now t O are all about the Hornets trading mellow ball to the Timberwolves. We came in to day Terrence thinking, yeah, this will be a pretty easy show. As of last night, this will be an easy show. No Hornets. Second rounders. Our biggest concern this morning was why did Henry Vasar drop solo in the draft for.
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Speaker 1: The Heels and now look at us? Oh my god, this is crazy. I appreciate you reacting on the fly. Somebody said Teo's the designator reactor to trades in town. Remember Mark to even made that same joke, sir.
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Speaker 2: Thee.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh shoot, hey, I would bone brought up the Vassar situation. And also Isaiah Evans in I just want to ask you that, because you're at college basketball nut and you cover it so much as well field A sixty eight ESPN and elsewhere, what do you think when you see in the NIOA where Isaiah Evans, whether at Duke or somewhere else, they saw Carolina somewhere else. It sounds like Carolina he could have got five million plus to play. It's just maybe this is the maybe I'm showing my age and I feel like I want to act like their dads. But it kills me that some of these guys they take the risk, will we get a first round guaranteed deal? And then they don't? Why not stay in school, make millions and keep working on your game? Does it hit you the same way or no.
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Speaker 3: As a guy who declared early. Yeah, it hurts me for them even more because you know, you get bad advice, and they happened to me. You know, I left after my sophomore season thinking I'd go over to Europe and then come back, and I ended up going over there and getting lost. And the chance for development is fine over there, but it wasn't what it could have been in college. So I say all that to say this, now that they have money, now that they are making extraordinary amounts of money, five million dollars, I think Pick is like number sixteen in order to like, if you have to beat five million dollars, you have to go in the top sixteen or something like that. Like I'm not sure what theysar is thinking you can get one track minded, which is what I did.
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Speaker 2: I was like, I have to make it. I have to go. I have to go.
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Speaker 3: But it comes to point where somebody has to pull you back and be like, hey man, college life isn't that bad. It's not like your classes are all that hard. Like, go go back to school, collect checks, and then we'll see how it all works.
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Speaker 1: Dan, all right, and that's that's good. Yeah, I forgot all about your situation. That was a pretty good honest answer there.
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Speaker 4: And you're saying Ryan Windhors loves the trade on get up right now hot for the Hornets?
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Speaker 3: Really yeah, yeah, Like I said to me, I just want to make sure the trade goes through. But it's to me, I love the trade because it's a so high situation. You get draft picks involved, and I think nas read Is.
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Speaker 2: I have a lot of.
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Speaker 3: Respect for what he does and he deserves to be a starter.
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Speaker 1: He's a winning player, man, and we have missed that profile right of the stretch four miles, very inconsistent shooting it from outside. He's a true four size wise. All right, brother, Hey, we appreciate you. We did not have a crystal ball and know that you would be on here live reacting to the trade. You did an amazing job of it, my friend, have a great summer and thanks for coming on.
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Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you absolutely. Thante guys,
Speaker 1: I'm Teraris Ogilsby from the pre and post game shows on the Hornets TV network. On Fandal, he joins us here on the Mac and Bone show, t what do you think of the news of this trade?
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Speaker 2: Man, I'm just as shocked as you are.
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting here. I love nas Reed. I think he's one of the most underappreciated players in the NBA. And that is an area where the Hornets need to get bigger. You see the need for physicality and the play in tournament this year. They need to get a little bit bigger. They need to get a little bit more physical. Nas Reed certainly fits that mold. And it also puts a notice on like how much the Hornets appreciate Kobe White. Yeah, and it also says how much faith they have in Christian Anderson. And guys, I saw Christian Anderson before he was at Texas Tech, playing with the U nineteen World Cup team in Switzerland, and he is really, really stinking good. And it's just he is on the smaller side. But really, what this does to me is it says how much the Hornets love Kobe White, and it looks like they're going to hitch their wagon to the Kobe White Continent and Brandon Miller Express because it doesn't have the flash that LaMelo brings. But there's a whole lot of substance there and you get bigger and more physical with nas read I like the pick swaps. Here's I'm scared. I'll be honest with you, gentlemen. After my Mark Williams debacle, I'm scared to death to say anything without absolutely going through first. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. With Lamello and his injury history and how narrow he has built, is this a cell high situation? Yeah, he played seventy two games. This is a cell high situation because he played extraordinary basketball this year. Did they think, well, this is as good as it gets for LaMelo? That's what my curiosity is. I have talked to nobody in the front office there in Charlotte.
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Speaker 2: This is me speculating the same way you guys are. Yes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Is it a little weird to you on the Minnesota front too? They just signed a sumu and now they go get Is that kind of a weird fit for Mellow? Does it make sense for him?
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Speaker 3: The whole on their side of the ordeal, like they just shipped out Julius Randall. They signed assuming to a big year, a big, big deal, and then it's Lamello and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards is better dominating the ball. Lamello is better dominating the ball. Uh, it's a cure. Excuse me, it's a curious ordeal. How do they manage that? I don't know how that's going to go. But I'm sitting here, I'm looking at all this stuff. Guys without without my rosters in front, you go ahead together. It's that's that's two ball dominant guys on their end and assumed it's kind of in the same mold. So curious how that works.
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Speaker 1: What do you think? Okay, So here's been our stance all day, and we've had all day. Right, the rumors started breaking last night, and credit to Sham's man, a lot of us were doubting, really this is something like this is going to happen this quickly, and he said it last night, could happen twenty four to forty eight hours. And here we go. But you know, a lot of our stance on it had been too that. Hey, this team is after so many frustrating years and in the injury plague years. Man, they really put it together, and it seemed like the new health staff kind of found a way along with the you know brass there, found a way to keep LaMelo healthy. LaMelo seemed to be you know, coachable, right, It seemed like they were getting more defense out of them, and it just we finally had momentum. So it's hard for a Hornets fan to want to break that up, Like, how do you feel about doing this when it feels like we have momentum?
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Speaker 3: You know, the only thing I can come back to. And again, I want to be absolutely clear that this is me speculating. Yes, this is a cell high situation with a mammoth contract with what LaMelo had, and it gives you room to resign Kobe for what he wants. It gives you room to operate a little bit thinking, you know, Minnesota is not going to be able to those first shroud pick swaps are going to be big, because I think the Hornets have faith that they're going to be really tough. I really do. And you look at the collective collective size, I think you know LaMelo was he's narrowly built. He's tall, but he's narrowly built. That type of frame. Typically it sends the message of well, he could get hurt a little bit more. Guys, I'm just as shocked as you are trying to figure this out. But at the same time, I do think. I do think if you're Charlotte and you're looking to get out of the LaMelo business, which would make sense if you're trying to build something sustainable in the long term and not worry about injury. Because he has shown the propensity to get hurt. This is a cell high situation. If you're the Hornet, what.
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Speaker 4: Do you think of the Honests draft pick? Just to go a different direction momentarily, what do you think of Honess?
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Speaker 2: Want me to keep this?
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Speaker 3: You guys want me to keep this ten seconds or less? No, I love honest einboch he was the second best big man at you nineteen Worlds in Switzerland. He goes up to Washington and he gets a forgot about a little bit because the Pacific Northwestern College Basketball. Do they like it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Do they love it? I would say no. I will say this. I've heard comparisons to Steven Adams. He's a better passer than that. I don't think he's quite as big as Steven Adams, but he really rebounds, he's tough, he's got a lot of skill. So is he an absolute upgrade at the five spot? They've drafted really well. I do think he's better offensively than Ryan Kulkbrenner, and he's put together, wider than Kaulkbrenner. He's put together. He's a lot heavier than Musa Diabat. I think he's a starting quality big man. But guys, there's part of me that thinks the Hornets aren't finished with this whole ordeal.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of taking that too. Like, that's a lot of picks they've collect. They already had a lot of picks. Now they've got they've got a lot more.
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Speaker 1: Now you bring in like Bridges as could go right now, because you brought in nas Reed, he's your starting four, drafted in Steinbacher Bridges in another trade at some point. I just I don't know, man, I hope there's more to come, to be honest with you, all right, t O, Let's talk more about Anderson, because all of a sudden, now yesterday, at this time I was hoping we re signed Kobe, we have LaMelo, and Anderson can ease into things right as kind of the third ball handler. Now, like you said, this very well might show. Hey, we love the way our offense played when Kobe was on the court. We can save money and he's our one. We drafted Anderson. They were probably thinking he's ready to be our two on the offensive end. I love Anderson. The shooting's ridiculous, the pick and roll, the savviness of the way he runs a pick and roll is really cool. But you mentioned the size, like is he a target on defense? Like, what do you think about the pros and cons of Christian Anderson?
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Speaker 3: He's much better than kJ Simpsons. Okay, we got that ut, and so that's good news. You know, he played on the German national team with Hannes Steinbach, so there's some connection there and they were really good and pick and roll together. The other portion of that is, you know, he is six y two, but he's got six six six seven wings fans, so he's a little bit longer than giving credit for. He's had some big rebounding moments during the course of the season last year. He competes at a really high level and he could very well be the best shooter in this year's draft. So that's kind of where I'm at with him. I've always been a big fan of his game. There's a certain toughness about him. He's played with the senior national teams, and that Germany.
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Speaker 2: Doesn't just do that, so you have to have some game about you.
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Speaker 3: I'm I think he could come in and play minutes right away. And I don't think they're going to be like figure it out minutes. They're going to be come in and bust a couple shots minutes. So, like I said, though, do I have faith he could play immediately?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: This is a strong draft class. What was he picked at eighteen? Like you, there's quality players at eighteen. Now, I think he's a guy that can come in and play minutes immediately and he going to be able to knock down shots for you quickly.
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Speaker 4: We're talking to Terrence oglesby FanDuel Sports Network here on the Macking Bone Show. Looking up right now, it's surreal all the TVs right now t O are all about the Hornets trading mellow ball to the Timberwolves. We came in to day Terrence thinking, yeah, this will be a pretty easy show. As of last night, this will be an easy show. No Hornets. Second rounders. Our biggest concern this morning was why did Henry Vasar drop solo in the draft for.
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Speaker 1: The Heels and now look at us? Oh my god, this is crazy. I appreciate you reacting on the fly. Somebody said Teo's the designator reactor to trades in town. Remember Mark to even made that same joke, sir.
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Speaker 2: Thee.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh shoot, hey, I would bone brought up the Vassar situation. And also Isaiah Evans in I just want to ask you that, because you're at college basketball nut and you cover it so much as well field A sixty eight ESPN and elsewhere, what do you think when you see in the NIOA where Isaiah Evans, whether at Duke or somewhere else, they saw Carolina somewhere else. It sounds like Carolina he could have got five million plus to play. It's just maybe this is the maybe I'm showing my age and I feel like I want to act like their dads. But it kills me that some of these guys they take the risk, will we get a first round guaranteed deal? And then they don't? Why not stay in school, make millions and keep working on your game? Does it hit you the same way or no.
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Speaker 3: As a guy who declared early. Yeah, it hurts me for them even more because you know, you get bad advice, and they happened to me. You know, I left after my sophomore season thinking I'd go over to Europe and then come back, and I ended up going over there and getting lost. And the chance for development is fine over there, but it wasn't what it could have been in college. So I say all that to say this, now that they have money, now that they are making extraordinary amounts of money, five million dollars, I think Pick is like number sixteen in order to like, if you have to beat five million dollars, you have to go in the top sixteen or something like that. Like I'm not sure what theysar is thinking you can get one track minded, which is what I did.
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Speaker 2: I was like, I have to make it. I have to go. I have to go.
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Speaker 3: But it comes to point where somebody has to pull you back and be like, hey man, college life isn't that bad. It's not like your classes are all that hard. Like, go go back to school, collect checks, and then we'll see how it all works.
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Speaker 1: Dan, all right, and that's that's good. Yeah, I forgot all about your situation. That was a pretty good honest answer there.
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Speaker 4: And you're saying Ryan Windhors loves the trade on get up right now hot for the Hornets?
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Speaker 3: Really yeah, yeah, Like I said to me, I just want to make sure the trade goes through. But it's to me, I love the trade because it's a so high situation. You get draft picks involved, and I think nas read Is.
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Speaker 2: I have a lot of.
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Speaker 3: Respect for what he does and he deserves to be a starter.
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Speaker 1: He's a winning player, man, and we have missed that profile right of the stretch four miles, very inconsistent shooting it from outside. He's a true four size wise. All right, brother, Hey, we appreciate you. We did not have a crystal ball and know that you would be on here live reacting to the trade. You did an amazing job of it, my friend, have a great summer and thanks for coming on.
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Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you absolutely. Thante guys,
