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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Shoot.
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Speaker 2: You know, we go right to it right now. Guys got to go from their locker room right into recovery and those different things. We have all the resources to do that, but we got to move on quickly. The message to the team was, I don't really know what this game would have looked like because of giving up those turnovers and giving 22 points. It's really hard in this league with one turnover, with multiple. It makes it really challenging.
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Speaker 3: That is Dave Canales.
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Speaker 1: Starting off, he was asked if it makes you glad there's a short turnaround after a game like that.
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Speaker 3: And I think we all are. Like, don't get me wrong, Bone.
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Speaker 1: Like, in a player's mindset, it does need to be flushed. It's just I would have liked addressing how sorry it was. He also said his message was, I don't know what the game would have been like if we didn't give him 22 points off turnovers, which is true.
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Speaker 3: But, like.
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Speaker 1: That's four turnovers. That's four horrible moments, Bone. You can't just wash those away. And you definitely can't wash away what happened to us in run defense. I don't know. Maybe it's best it's a short week.
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Maybe they're better off just getting right to it.
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Speaker 4: The Panthers are really affecting a lot of lives here, looking for tickets on the text line. He's on a diet, and he had to turn to red velvet cake at halftime yesterday, so now his diet's ruined.
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Speaker 3: Stress-eating.
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Speaker 4: How about Colin came in here during the break, Mac? One of his only hopes of the weekend is the play of Grayson Allen and his big shot he had on Saturday night. Colin is really fired up to have Grayson on his side.
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Speaker 1: He's not fully embracing yet that Grayson is so key to his Hornets' success this season.
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Speaker 3: But that four-point play was badass.
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Speaker 4: His reaction after he hit that shot, by the way, a stone cold kill.
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Speaker 3: I know you got hurt on the play. He did.
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Speaker 1: I hope he's all right for this week. He wasn't on the injury report, was he? He had a look on his eyes like, yeah, I hit that shot.
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Speaker 3: He's a bad dude, man. He's a bucket getter. While EC was yelling chicken salad. And he's like, man, we're going to play that later.
00:02:21
Speaker 1: For those of you wondering, where's the Wolfpack fans might be like, where's my Wolfpack talk?
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Speaker 3: We finally canned Doran. I need to hear about it. We might hire Phillip Rivers. That's coming up.
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Speaker 1: We're going to do a little Hornets. Wolfpack combination. It's kind of the two things, Bone, that are big deals. The up and down Hornets weekend from booze to bounce back. And then we've got the Wolfpack situation. So we'll do those at 925. Booze and boo. So allow us one more time to get this Panther game out of our system, but to kind of look ahead a little bit. And I do want to give you a little tease here. If you can make it through more venting about this Panther debacle yesterday, you will get a reward. In about 10 minutes, right around 9, 18 or so, we will play a clip that I heard driving home yesterday that was absolute glorious radio. I'm listening to the postgame show, and this guy Johnny, who I've heard on there before, and Johnny's the type of guy that only seems to call in after losses because then it fits his narrative of just apparently hating the team that he says he roots for and hating Bryce Young, the quarterback on the team that we were chanting MVP about a couple weeks ago. But anyway, Johnny is going off on Bryce on the Panthers. and the P-Man is trying to fend him off-bone, and then Smoke Ludwig off the top rope. These boys, like a great wrestling tag team, went at it with Johnny 2-on-1. So we're going to play that post-game clip for you in like 10 minutes.
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Speaker 3: I cannot wait to hear that. Mac, do you have insight on this?
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Speaker 5: Dr.
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Speaker 4: Suave says, oh, my God, Mac, on the— on the text line dr suave says oh my god mac i felt bad for the panthers pa announcer during the game we were down 33 to 6 and he was trying to fire up the crowd to get the defense go oh my god the crowd was dead silent who's the hype up guy jake Yeah. My God, Jay.
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
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Speaker 1: Oh, between Jake and the dudes, like Charles Johnson and the guys that had to hit to keep pounding drum in the third quarter, it's like y'all got no hope.
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Speaker 3: That's a tough crowd out there, y'all. So I did. I fell for them, too. So, Bone, let's ask this question.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like what does the game say big picture? Do you think it says like, oh, crap, we've overrated this team? Or do you think it's just an aberration?
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Speaker 4: I think it says that even when they play well or have a win or back to back wins, that they are still in that one of those teams in the league, which is most of them, that they can still have bad weeks. Now, their bad weeks are worse than most. like the second half of Chicago. We can't say the full Chicago game because they were in that for a half, but second half of Chicago all day yesterday, despite them getting better and our vibes feeling better about where the franchise is and where it's going, that they still, Mac, cannot take a team lightly. We cannot take a week off. We cannot take our eyes off the prize, whether it be as the fans, as the coaches, as the players, the whole organization, everyone around here, that they can still lay a giant egg any given week against anybody.
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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And I think we all we are.
00:05:29
Speaker 1: Not we are not so far ahead in the south. But we are just like the other team still. And we're not far enough ahead in our rebuild to where we are above this crap, unfortunately. And that is humbling. Vape shop NIL. That's a name there says it sucks worse because the Falcons beat the Niners.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
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Speaker 1: And the Niners came back, made it interesting. But Brock Purdy threw another interception. See where even the great Brock Purdy can have a rough day. Pat Mahomes, brutal night last night. So that's the one thing I would say about jumping to Bryce Young conclusions. I still think the dude has grown leaps and bounds as a quarterback, but he also, Bone, is not above a game like yesterday as well, where last week, one of the big things I was hitting everybody was with, man, If his game against Philly, 90-plus rating, two touchdowns, zero picks, 281 yards, if that's the low end, if that's a bad game for him, man, this dude is now special.
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Speaker 3: Well, newsflash, Mackey, that's a bad game.
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Speaker 1: What he played the other day was not his best stuff against Philly, but a pretty good game. This was an abomination. Now, he was under pressure. Walker and Hunt had abysmal days. I just, yeah, Bryce and the team are not beyond days like that.
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Speaker 4: I mean, the Panthers have had great days. They've had awful days. The Falcons, Mac, got blown out by us at home. The Bears at home. But they beat the Niners. At home, Tampa Bay's two wins are on the road at Dallas and at the Panthers with their run game. The Saints beat the Ravens, right, on the road at one point, but yet they have five losses still. It feels like any given week, these teams, they're still all jumbled up, and that's what's frustrating about yesterday. I thought we were maybe at a point of maybe... A little separation from the others, but Atlanta wins. Tampa Bay, of course, beat us, and now everyone's just jumbled up again. Even the Saints are not good but hanging around there.
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Speaker 1: All we wanted was a little separation, Boney. That's all we wanted, and we got none, and we're going to have to deal with it. 704 number says, y'all, I'm going to say it, and no one's going to want to hear it this morning. We're beating the Packers on Thursday night. I've seen it before from this team. Just when you think, oh, you're hot garbage now. They come out and play an inspired ball. We brought this up earlier. Now, you're right. Probably most people don't want to hear that. But if you think about the trend Zoki brought up last year, Buffalo blew us out in our house. They went to Lambeau as 14-point underdogs and won.
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Speaker 4: And that was his 12-10, the games after losses in his coaching career.
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Speaker 1: How about the Niners game last year? Niners beat us. Ugly football game. Very disappointing on Monday night. We come back and beat the Rams as 10-point favorites. So there is a precedent for that. With that said, I am not ready for that kind of talk just yet. I am ready to acknowledge I do expect a spirited effort. But here's the thing. Green Bay is going to feel desperate like Tampa did yesterday. And like you said, Bone, we didn't match their desperation that Tampa had. Green Bay at 4-3 in that division they're playing in, you might as well be 2-5. Because they're in last place in that division. They have to be kicking themselves the way they lost that game late, Bone. The missed field goal and the way they lost that game. And they have things like Jacobs is back, and then you throw in, Bone, the passing game and what that's capable of doing.
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Speaker 3: Like, so I don't know what to say yet about Thursday.
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Speaker 4: They're going to attack the Panthers the opposite of the way that the Buccaneers did.
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Speaker 3: That's the problem.
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Speaker 4: The Buccaneers was all running the way that the Packers love those deep shots and take chances. They are going to try to attack the DBs in this game big time for the Panthers.
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Speaker 3: Definitely. And just tell me one of them will not be a Caleb Evans. It can't be. Not in this game. Please, God, no. Like, you've got Watson. You've got Golden out there making plays.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And Love, who's hot despite the loss, hot.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, at one point yesterday, he was on pace. He got really slowed down in the second half as the game kind of got more defensive. He was on pace at one point yesterday for 400 yards against the Lions.
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Speaker 3: It slowed down through the game, but he was having a hell of a start to that game yesterday.
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Speaker 1: He was, and he's been playing like that for the last couple weeks, too. JJ, do not put Evans on that plane. Brian says, I got great news for y'all. We will not give up 250 rush yards. The bad news is Jordan Love will throw for four bills. That's my concern. That's the thing.
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Speaker 4: I'm still stuck on yesterday, though. I'm not fully into like the I'm going to get there, but I'm I'm still angry about yesterday. Not going to concern. I mean, yes, we can talk about it, but. You know, I'm still trying to get over yesterday. Never mind Green Bay coming up here.
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Speaker 1: This texter says, I don't give a damn about Green Bay, Denver, Baltimore, whoever it is. That team showed you the lack of pride yesterday when they laid down against the sorry Buck squad. Yeah, I mean, I just I don't blame you for feeling that way. It was and we've been venting all day. We've been angry all day because, again, we thought you were past that. And here you show us you can still when you do trip up, man, you just you trip and you fall and bloody your nose and it gets ugly. I will say, Bone, they're not like we know most performances will not be like that. And we do know, I'm telling you, this team is still going to play games the rest of the way that will have you feeling good about the team again. The problem is, where are you really going to get bone in your growth if you continue to be that inconsistent? You might be able to win the South again, but what are you really doing when you get to the playoffs? If you're capable of playing like that, when a team, you know what I mean?
00:11:10
Speaker 3: When a team pressures you and runs the ball.
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Speaker 4: I mean, beating, beating green Bay would be great, but then do you, do you have another home? What down against Denver?
00:11:17
Speaker 1: Yeah. It just feels like we're going to be on this. Yo, you called it a yo-yo. It's still thinking about yo-yo back and forth, you know?
00:11:23
Speaker 4: Um, no, I will say the schedule is coming up for both Atlanta and Tampa. Mac are, uh, relatively difficult. Tampa Bay and Atlanta play each other on Sunday. Then Tampa Bay has at the Bears and at the Lions before us again. Atlanta, although they beat the Niners yesterday, Matt, they've got Tampa. They've got Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minnesota, Detroit. So there's a lot of losses there for Atlanta. But again, in this division, who knows week-to-week who may end up winning some of these games.
00:11:53
Speaker 3: No, it's legit.
00:11:54
Speaker 1: This dude said it's a week-to-week league. I think that's all we can say. Yeah, but the weeks that are bad, like two of these weeks have been humiliating from a defensive standpoint. Yesterday, from a whole team standpoint. Chicago, from a defensive standpoint. Ultra Nostalgia Bone says, where were the Panthers at this point last season? 3-3 also, right?
00:12:17
Speaker 3: I think so.
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Speaker 1: Because didn't we start 1-3 and then won three in a row to get to 4-3?
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Speaker 4: I'm double-checking, but I believe you're right.
00:12:25
Speaker 3: That is correct. Remember, they lost.
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Speaker 7: Jacksonville, Arizona, home win over Atlanta, road blowout loss to New England, and then they ratted off the three straight wins to get to 4-3.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we were.
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Speaker 4: We were 2-3, 3-3, 4-3, 4-4, 5-4, 5-5, 6-5, 6-6, 7-6, 7-7, 8-7, 8-8, 8-9. And I guess what I would say, Bone, is last week I did, and maybe I screwed it up. Maybe I messed up again. Bone says, yep.
00:12:45
Speaker 3: I came on and announced, I am back on the 10-win wagon! How do you feel now? Your king has returned. Where is the what? Where is the sheet now, by the way?
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Speaker 1: I think they finally trashed that horrible-looking thing. Oh, no.
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Speaker 3: I think that happened. Smoke probably did that in the middle of the game yesterday out of frustration. Smoke, shoot it. But, like, I made that big announcement.
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Speaker 1: Now should we be back to feeling like, yeah, this is an eight-win, maybe nine-win football team? It's a team similar. And I didn't want to be similar to last year. I wanted to feel like we had grown from last year. Yesterday kind of throws that thought into doubt, you know? But, hey, we got good news for you. You can at least laugh at Johnny. Johnny is the villain in this clip. He likes to troll Bryce, troll the Panthers bone, although he claims to be a diehard Panther fan, calling the postgame show with Willie P and Smoke Ludwig. You'll hear him whining. The P-man is trying to fend him off, and then Smoke Ludwig comes off the top rope bone.
00:13:55
Speaker 3: This is brilliant radio.
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Speaker 8: You know what stats are for?
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Speaker 3: Losers. Am I correct? Does that mean you're a loser? Because you just used a lot of stats.
00:14:04
Speaker 8: Throughout this phone call. I don't have any stats. I don't play.
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Speaker 3: But you just used the stats throughout your phone call, so you just completely.
00:14:10
Speaker 8: You know, this is a problem with your... Before you hang up on me, go ahead and hang up while I say this. This is a problem with your station. Y'all... What is.
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Speaker 3: What is the problem with our station?
00:14:18
Speaker 8: Behind this quarterback from day one because they put their owner's station, and that owner is behind them.
00:14:24
Speaker 3: They're not on our station.
00:14:25
Speaker 6: We don't have the Panthers.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: We have no gratitude or anything on the station.
00:14:32
Speaker 8: Why is this other guy on there? When you attack the show, he's got to say something rude. He's not saying anything rude.
00:14:39
Speaker 3: You challenged the point.
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Speaker 8: What about your stats?
00:14:41
Speaker 3: Well, you just called everyone at your stats losers. I have no stat.
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Speaker 1: How else are you supposed to determine whether or not somebody's– get him out of here.
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Speaker 3: Johnny doesn't want to.
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Speaker 8: Get me out of here because you're wrong.
00:14:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, P-Man and Smoke. Hit him with the one-two punch, baby. Hit him with a one-two.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god that is so entertaining i was listening at driving home we know and i was dying i.
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Speaker 3: Don't have stats i don't play yeah we know that.
00:15:09
Speaker 1: Smoke is saying sir you just provided stats which if stats are for losers why would you be citing stat smoke played him man Smoke took time out bone from texting all of us at the station with his conspiracy theories about yesterday's Panther game with his, uh, thoughts about the, uh, NASCAR next gen car bone with his thoughts on whether or not Kyle Larson was below the yellow line. Smoke took time out of all his causes yesterday that he was texting us about to take care of the villain Johnny, and that was beautiful.
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Speaker 4: God, that was great stuff, boys. There's a current wrestler, Matt, named Bronson Reed. He does the Tsunami off the top rope. Johnny just got Tsunami right there by Smoke Mugley.
00:15:53
Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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Speaker 3: Smokey, get him, baby. And then P came back. Oh, gosh. Anyway.
00:16:00
Speaker 4: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show, we focus on the other team booed in town this weekend, the Hornets. And could NC State really hire Phillip Rivers as their next head coach?
00:16:13
Speaker 3: It's Mac Bone, Phinney, Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
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Speaker 5: I told the group.
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Speaker 6: Like, you know, this is great for us at home, on the road. If you hear boos, like, you got to be able to play better basketball. That's not something that we can control.
00:16:53
Speaker 5: They are fans. They are entitled.
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Speaker 6: And if we're not playing good basketball, I think they understand the game.
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Speaker 5: So we totally respect it and we just got.
00:17:01
Speaker 6: To play better.
00:17:03
Speaker 3: That is Charles Lee.
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Speaker 1: So that was him before the game on Saturday at the Hive, the one that they would eventually win, Bone, while playing amazing in the third quarter to get a 20-point lead. playing horribly for six minutes and blowing the entire lead, only to finish.
00:17:19
Speaker 3: It off and send everybody home happy.
00:17:21
Speaker 1: But that is before that game, the night after losing by 47, when the fans, and I say good on you, I say good on you for voicing your opinion, just like I say good on the fans at the Panther game for voicing their displeasure, but fans booing at a home opener booth. man it was crazy in the first half.
00:17:42
Speaker 4: They were so happy in the pregame it's the quickest like most joyous celebration of because we were out there for the pregame show and i was saying man it is uh i saw walker man these people are hyped up even without mellow like they're happy I didn't, I did not foresee Mac. I could kind of tell by the matchup that night, like, okay, this, this might be a tough night for Brandon just based off the defense they're going to throw at him.
00:18:04
Speaker 3: But I did not see booing happening that night though. I did not know that was going on there before they got to have franchise.
00:18:10
Speaker 4: I got a standing ovation night one when they got beat by 40, the first game ever.
00:18:15
Speaker 3: That's true.
00:18:15
Speaker 1: That was 40 years ago. And times have changed in this little old town here, Boney. But, um, We do in Charlotte, and fans probably do this everywhere. It's probably not just us. But we can turn a smile into a frown into a full-blown you're dead to me rant in just the blink of an eye. Because the same thing happened at the Panther game yesterday, Bone. At the doghouse, the atmosphere and the vibes were like the best they have been since the playoff game last year.
00:18:46
Speaker 6: Right.
00:18:46
Speaker 1: Like, people were so giddy. There were hardly any Bucs fans at the doghouse. The weather was beautiful. Fans were optimistic. Fans were telling me, we're going to.
00:18:54
Speaker 3: Blow them out.
00:18:55
Speaker 1: We're going to blow them out. And I'll be damn boned if by the time halftime hit, 33-6. I mean, fans weren't even sure they liked Luke Kuechly anymore when he was up there talking.
00:19:05
Speaker 3: Like, they were miserable.
00:19:07
Speaker 1: So we can turn very quickly. What did you think, Bone, about the whole rollercoaster Hornets experience this weekend? I got to be honest, losing by 47 is far from ideal.
00:19:19
Speaker 3: It was humiliating. It was pathetic. It was embarrassing.
00:19:23
Speaker 1: But splitting the weekend, like looking at the big picture, not having Khan, not having Kobe, not having Grant and splitting that weekend.
00:19:32
Speaker 3: I'll take it, man. I'll take it. Yeah.
00:19:33
Speaker 4: They very easily could have lost that second game with a blow 20 point lead or whatever the number was, but they, they hung on some vets like Grayson Allen definitely stepped up.
00:19:44
Speaker 3: Look, it was the way that they lost.
00:19:47
Speaker 4: I mean, to have only four starters, score 18 points total outside of Reed at 17 on Friday night, the other four starters at 18, then they get to the foul line. It was just one of those terrible, awful games. Maybe if that happens back in mid-January in the middle of the season, it's a big deal, but.
00:20:07
Speaker 4: Night one, where the fans are happy and everyone's watching, makes it even worse.
00:20:12
Speaker 3: But I will say, for as bad as the Hornets were that night, and they were, I.
00:20:17
Speaker 4: Just felt going in, when you've got the wing defenders that Atlanta has versus Brandon Miller and not all the starters helping out because of injury right now, that was going to be a tough game. game no matter what I didn't see a 40 point loss but I thought to myself this is going to be a tough game and it turns out it was more than I thought it makes sense and I thought that was a bad matchup that night I thought Brandon came back the next night I think he took it personal I think the whole team took it personal that's the thing I love is they came back they play with an edge on Saturday from the jump like oh they're pissed coach said they're pissed before the game and they showed it and that's all I'm asking for from the Panthers see I can't get away for the damn Panthers is.
00:20:57
Speaker 3: To be pissed off Be pissed off. You're human. You get embarrassed.
00:21:01
Speaker 1: Get pissed off and respond. And the Hornets did that. And I thought Brandon did that, Bone. That 34-point night and to be aggressive, I love it. Shoot 29 times, bro. There's no Khan walking through that door and there's no Kobe. There's a lot of shots to be had. Get your mellow on. Get your mellow on and try to put us on your back a little bit. He had 20 points, Bone, in the first 17 minutes of playing time for himself. Ended up with 34. Had a big jumper late. Got to the foul line throughout the game, including late in that game when we needed him to.
00:21:32
Speaker 3: Dish four assists. Grabbed seven rebounds.
00:21:35
Speaker 1: And some of the defense he played on Saturday night, I thought when he got ISO'd up, it's like, that's the two-way wing right there. Now, I noticed Charles Lee, Bone, is noticing– The pressure that's on Brandon post-new contract and without Khan and Kobe, and a lot of the trash that's being talked about him after the first two games. He was 2-14 Friday night, struggled in game one shooting. Listen to Charles Lee on Saturday night talk about Brandon bouncing back.
00:22:05
Speaker 3: You know, that's why you never overreact to.
00:22:09
Speaker 5: Shooting numbers or shooting slumps or, you know, one game sample sizes.
00:22:13
Speaker 3: That guy has a body of work that is just very impressive.
00:22:17
Speaker 5: And, you know, though he may be struggling offensively, he creates so many good things for us on the offensive end. I thought his defense today was like much improved. That steal he gets on Larson at a crucial moment. I just think that that's just who he is. That's the type of consistent competitor he is. He wants to be an elite two-way player, and he showcased it today.
00:22:40
Speaker 1: Do you think people have been too hard on Brandon through the first couple of games? Or do you think, hey, dude, that comes with the contract?
00:22:46
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, part of it comes with the contract. But we also, as I said after game one, have to remember this guy, just because he signed the contract, doesn't mean his body's ultimately ready to go to start the year in full. He needs to work his way back in a little bit here coming off the surgery. So we've got to give it a little bit more time. And you already saw the other day. He started to show signs that he's breaking out of the slump. So I think it's a little early to start saying he's overpaid and he's this and he's that. I think people just react to that way too early into a season when he's coming off of the surgery also.
00:23:19
Speaker 1: It's such a new role. He didn't play a lot this summer. It's such a new role for him, too. Without his buddies. First of all, you took Lamello away, who would set him up a lot. And then you took away Khan and Kobe, and it's like, there are times, like, you cannot deny the amount of times the ball's given to him late in the shot clock, go get a bucket. It wasn't like that at all in the past. And I think he's adjusting to it. And I think he hit some big buckets, Bo, that way. on saturday night but i don't think you know it's not gonna be without some hiccups it's a completely different role for him but i think he's gonna get it i think he's gonna get there not to mention when the help comes back from con and kobe too it'll be more balanced in terms of who got to get you a bucket late in the shot clock.
00:24:00
Speaker 4: One thing that's been a little eye-opening to me mac is the um The lack of free throw attempts. Also, they've got a that goes into the whole physicality thing. Am I not mistaken? Has Nas Reed attempted a foul shot all year?
00:24:15
Speaker 3: No, zero. Zero free throws.
00:24:16
Speaker 4: Three games for a guy that's involved in that much stuff in the paint and doing all that stuff. No free throw attempts for him. That's a little bit. We need to see him get some points on the line here a little bit. He's still scoring a hell of a lot of points. He is, but I mean, if you add three or four more points from the foul line, what's the guy averaging?
00:24:32
Speaker 1: I do feel like Bone, Nas Reed is another guy I wanted to mention. There are too many times, too, the ball gets thrown to him late in shot clocks. It's like, Nas, go create something from the wing. They didn't ask him to do that near as much in Minnesota. No, he's more of the guy that benefits from the creation. So I do think he is trying to carry more of a load. I'm very surprised he hadn't shot a free throw. But, again, I want Kobe and Khan back. But who knows when that's going to be because they don't tell us anything. They're out tonight. But DeVance is out tonight for Washington. We've got to give the Wolfpack fans some content here, and I'm sure we'll do more of it tomorrow, firing of Dave Dorn after that Stanford train wreck loss on Friday night.
00:25:10
Speaker 3: Um, like, are y'all, are y'all happy about this?
00:25:12
Speaker 1: If you're a state fan, I would have to think like, I don't know if we need to dance on his grave bone. It's not like he was Matt roll for the Panthers or, you know what I mean? Something that just went so horribly. And the dude triggered you. Like he gave y'all a lot of good years. Um, but it just feels like sometimes it's just time to go. It feels like time, man. And it feels like state fans want the administration to ask, can we do more than good?
00:25:38
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:25:39
Speaker 1: And I find it, so I think if you're a State fan, you've got to be happy about the news. DJ Elliott's gone too, the D coordinator. My God, that defense has turned into a mess the last few years. The general manager's gone. Andy Staples said something like they're going to have a new AD too, and everybody's like, what, really? Is that true? And then, so it's not just the Doran part of the conversation. It's then the question of, I know y'all love Phillip Rivers, right? but he's only coached high school ball like he's doing right now in Alabama. I know Gunner's going there, but is he ready for that job?
00:26:19
Speaker 4: And it's a double-edged sword because that can work, and then you have a coach that you know is not going to go anywhere, a quarterback that's not going to jump in the portal. But if it doesn't go well, then it gets a little bit awkward, Mac. CBSSports.com, I can't actually– it's a link to– pack power but the the picture of the candidates list is billy napier from james.
00:26:41
Speaker 1: Madison didn't put that guy off the list although hiring a jmu coach isn't the worst that's true that's true um by the way a texter keeping us honest naz read one free throw in the nets game missed it So one. But I think your point still stands. Well, his percentage is zero still. That is true. He's having 20 points, nine boards, three assists a game, though. But the free throw line could help. He's got to get there a little bit here.
00:27:07
Speaker 3: All right.
00:27:08
Speaker 1: As far as the Wolfpack go, AC says, honestly, it's too bad for him.
00:27:12
Speaker 3: Where's this at here?
00:27:14
Speaker 1: Doran did some really good things at state. He should have been able to go out on his own terms after the season. I think, though, that's we've seen this trend lately where schools want to get out front. Right.
00:27:26
Speaker 3: And maybe it is Philip Rivers.
00:27:27
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because the one thing is, if you get out front, the guys can't leave where he's at.
00:27:32
Speaker 3: Can't pull a Lane Kiffin. how much does it help you?
00:27:35
Speaker 1: Although I guess, I guess you can still kind of know who the guy is come to a deal, even if you don't announce it and maybe do some stuff kind of through back channels. But I just think they want to get out front. They knew they were done with them. And I think they want to get out front. I mean, listen, I felt the same way about James Franklin. Like, yeah, it was probably time to go, but did Penn state really have to do that to him? Like five games after he made the national semifinal. But I think it's the trend now, Bone. I think schools want to be out front because we got Portal coming. We've got money we got to raise for the new coach.
00:28:10
Speaker 4: Here are the names from ESPN.com, right? Five names for NC State. Phillip Rivers, we've talked about him. Scott Satterfield. Georgia D.C. Glenn Schumann. Memphis coach Charles Huff. and Wake Forest head coach Jake Dickert. I keep seeing Dickert pop up. Do you think Dickert would leave?
00:28:29
Speaker 1: I know there's more resources at NC State, but do you think he would leave Wake for State?
00:28:37
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I don't think Manny or Dickert are leaving for a job. That's another one. Staples was talking about Manny, too.
00:28:43
Speaker 4: I don't think those guys, Mac, would be leaving for— Manny's got the Florida tie, so Florida State. I don't think Dickert's leaving for a job in the ACC. I think Dicker would go SEC, Big Ten. I think Dicker wouldn't do that.
00:28:59
Speaker 3: Manny, I could.
00:29:01
Speaker 4: Florida State might come calling for Manny, so I can't say 100%. But I would think that those guys would go... Would Jake Dicker leave for Clemson? Like, to me, it just has... That's interesting. It has to be a job at a high.
00:29:16
Speaker 1: Like, to me, jumping from Wake to State is not enough of a jump to make it worth it.
00:29:20
Speaker 3: Plus, you're leaving Wake....
00:29:24
Speaker 1: A place that I do believe Boney has really taken to, and you're leaving for a rival like that?
00:29:29
Speaker 3: Like, that's the angle, too.
00:29:31
Speaker 1: Like, it's not a big enough jump, is it, to, like, for the backlash you're going to get from Deke fans if you leave.
00:29:37
Speaker 3: I wouldn't think. Same with Manny. This is probably it for C.J. Bailey then, right? He probably enters the portal, right? You would think?
00:29:45
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:29:46
Speaker 1: Is he not going pro at some point? When the hell is he going to the damn NFL? I thought it might be last year. Now I think it might be this year. As far as that list goes, though, there's some good names on that damn list, man.
00:30:00
Speaker 3: Charles Huff is good. Charles Huff. That would be his fourth school in four years, which is crazy. It's like a player.
00:30:05
Speaker 1: But he wins everywhere and he takes players with him. The Indiana coordinators are interesting names. Cignetti's been able to hold on to those guys. Both of those guys are interesting names. Mike Shanahan, right? Shanahan on offense. And is it Haynes? Is that the name of the guy on the defensive side?
00:30:22
Speaker 3: No, not that Mike Shanahan. Schumann from Georgia, D.C. is interesting.
00:30:29
Speaker 1: And then you go to a guy like this dude Eck at New Mexico, right? People are raving about this guy. So, but, but I don't know, but Phillip Rivers is a little enticing bone because you could totally see him come in and gout. You've already seen one of their big boosters, Andy Albright, pump him up on social media, that picture of the two of them. Like if you can get that state money popping, Because they've had more money than Wake and Duke, but they haven't had as much money as the top schools in the ACC. I could see a big influx of money if Philly Riv takes that job.
00:31:06
Speaker 3: Here's the SI list that they have up there. Jake Dickard on that list as well. P.J. Fleck, when he rowed his boat to Raleigh-Mack. Jason Eck, you just mentioned. Dan Mullin.
00:31:16
Speaker 4: Jeff Traylor is the coach at Texas San Antonio. Watch out for him to Baylor, potentially, by the way. Lance Taylor, Western Michigan. Philly Riv.
00:31:26
Speaker 3: Shanahan, we mentioned.
00:31:27
Speaker 4: Schumann and Buster Faulkner is going to be a big name out there, the current OC for the Florida Gators, formerly of Georgia Tech.
00:31:35
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:31:35
Speaker 3: He's an interesting name, too. No doubt about it, man. No doubt.
00:31:38
Speaker 1: Boiled Peanuts says, if the Bills were impressed with Rivers in an interview, why on earth wouldn't State hire him? Yeah, that's the thing is the intel out of that. And we all thought it was crazy. Phillip Rivers, high school coach, Bills, NFL interview. But apparently he really impressed people. I saw the article. One of the articles was Feldman talking about how people are wowed by the fact that Phillip Rivers... basically called a lot of his own plays when he was quarterback he's seen as even though he's got this like fiery southern guy's got the twang and the fire he has seen bone as brilliant like so there is that could you get yourself a star who would this dude said i gotta be honest as a state fan if you can raise funds i think that's more important than actual coaching acumen it's fair It's risky, but I understand the enticing nature of it.
00:32:28
Speaker 4: In a few years, in the suburbs, in the Triangle, there could be an entire area that is all just rivers and knipples.
00:32:36
Speaker 3: An entire suburb of rivers and knipples. Oh, my God.
00:32:43
Speaker 1: Carolina Kelly says, he says, on what happened with Dave Dorn, I think the phrase is unceremoniously, uncere, how do I say that word?
00:32:52
Speaker 3: Unceremoniously. We speak for a living. Unceremoniously. There you go. You got it, baby. You got it. Turn it down. He says dismiss.
00:33:03
Speaker 1: Unceremoniously dismissed is what he's saying.
00:33:06
Speaker 4: Also, we got to wish somebody on this show a happy birthday. Someone's got a big old 53 today on the Mac and Bone show. Sports Radio 92.7. Someone's got a birthday. I wonder who.
00:33:42
Speaker 3: Shot clock's down to three.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: Grayson Allen!
00:33:51
Speaker 6: Yes!
00:33:53
Speaker 3: Chicken salad dough! E.C., baby. E.C.
00:33:59
Speaker 1: Back in full effect on that Grayson Allen four-point play. That was mammoth bone. The game was in the balance. We were looking like we might follow up a 47-point L by blowing a 20-point lead. And Grayson Allen said, hell no.
00:34:14
Speaker 4: Hornets said, not this weekend. We'll do something right here in between the misery on Friday and Sunday.
00:34:19
Speaker 3: Not tonight.
00:34:20
Speaker 8: I'm aroused.
00:34:21
Speaker 1: Now, maybe on Monday against the Wizards, maybe we'll do something that'll piss y'all off, but not tonight.
00:34:25
Speaker 4: And how dare these teams. Have bad weekends when my man Mac is celebrating the birthday today.
00:34:33
Speaker 3: How about that? That's right.
00:34:34
Speaker 1: It feels very celebratory. It feels very celebratory today. And Finney's like, what do you got going on? What do you got happening? I don't know about the rest of y'all. When you're 53, it really doesn't feel like, yay, I'm one.
00:34:45
Speaker 3: Year closer to death.
00:34:47
Speaker 1: It just doesn't quite hit the same way as when you're younger.
00:34:51
Speaker 4: No, the milestone birthdays are far and few between. After 40, you kind of just.
00:34:56
Speaker 3: Ah, all right.
00:34:57
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. 50 is significant, but it's significant like, holy crap, this is bad.
00:35:03
Speaker 3: The age 50, right? Not 50. You mean at the age of.
00:35:07
Speaker 6: 50, right?
00:35:07
Speaker 3: Like, birthdays are no longer a good thing, I feel like, when you're old.
00:35:10
Speaker 1: But I do appreciate folks saying nice things today.
00:35:13
Speaker 3: When you're younger, it's like, yeah, I'm about to turn 21. No one's like, yeah, come on, 50, baby. Yeah. Give me big 5-0.
00:35:19
Speaker 4: I got to tell you, Mac, you don't look or act 53, though.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: I definitely don't act it. I don't know if I look. This gray beard is getting there.
00:35:30
Speaker 1: It's so bad, Bo, when I was at the store, I was checking out the Just For Men for my beard. I'm like, do I dare dye the beard? Because my head's been able to stay non-gray pretty much. The beard, though, is going, man. Ain't no play for Mr. Gray.
00:35:44
Speaker 7: Hey, look, Mac, the salt and pepper look is in. I mean, I think if you could get some salt and pepper.
00:35:49
Speaker 3: Going, okay, I'd spice things up for you in the missing.
00:35:57
Speaker 4: No one is more comfortable talking about guys than Fiddy Morrow is.
00:36:01
Speaker 3: I believe the spice, Fiddy.
00:36:03
Speaker 1: I believe the spice rack might be a little emptier. You got that old spice. We got some old spice. Might be a little emptier than it was back in the day.
00:36:10
Speaker 4: I'm not using an Italian deodorant. Fiddy smelled it for me. Fiddy sniffed my armpits the other day.
00:36:16
Speaker 3: He liked it.
00:36:17
Speaker 1: All right.
00:36:18
Speaker 3: And that wasn't the worst thing that happened in Charlotte this weekend.
00:36:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, I found this deodorant for the Italian man, and I'm using it right now.
00:36:25
Speaker 3: There you go, man. It's called Cremo or something. I don't know. It's delightful.
00:36:29
Speaker 1: Whatever works for you, baby. Whatever works for you. All right.
00:36:34
Speaker 8: 704-5709-610.
00:36:34
Speaker 1: If y'all want to send your text in, fire them into us here. We're getting ready to read some of them off. Do want to mention tonight, you got Hornets Wizards tonight. Still no con, Kobe or.
00:36:47
Speaker 1: Grant uh but you do have bone and kb with the pregame six o'clock tonight the game is at the uh tonight at seven so we got that going on we've got world series game three tonight on fox at eight and you also have obviously monday night football um i'm not even gonna mock the nfc lease today bone i don't feel i don't feel very hoity-toity today like i did last week um you have two and four dallas two and four philly tonight.
00:37:15
Speaker 4: And then you've got Philly also on Sunday Night Football next week as well against the Commanders. Still not sure how that game was not flexed out of there. So we've got Philly on tonight and Sunday Night Football.
00:37:25
Speaker 1: And Bone, we talked earlier about UNC probably had a chance at game day if they beat Syracuse. and it didn't happen. Still on ABC on Saturday night, but not a game day game. The Panthers, is it official, Bone, that yesterday the Carolina Panthers killed the conversation of, hey, you think they're going to flex the Denver Panther game?
00:37:46
Speaker 4: I think we just want them in their one o'clock spot and don't even notice what they're up to.
00:37:51
Speaker 3: Just put them... Yeah, put them on 1 o'clock and just let them be there.
00:37:55
Speaker 1: You don't think we have to worry about changing our plans for that night?
00:37:59
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
00:38:00
Speaker 1: I think we're lucky if they let us play an NFL game after Sunday. And they'll find a way to relegate us, Bone. Because especially McAfee, because they announced that Tuesday, right? So if the Panthers lay another egg... against the Green Bay, just hypothetically speaking. And then are people going to be really fired up that they get that Sunday night game, their next game out after two eggs in a row? Probably not.
00:38:22
Speaker 6: No.
00:38:22
Speaker 3: That would be way too many eggs. That would be an omelet.
00:38:26
Speaker 1: Let's read some of these texts here before we get out of here. Keep them coming, y'all. 704-570-9610 if you want to jump in. JP in Mooresville says, so for Mac's birthday, we got the Mac curse for the whole weekend. Some of y'all did. Some of y'all didn't. There was a bad case here on Friday Night Boat. Bad case on Sunday here in Charlotte. Chapel Hill had an outbreak. Um, but I feel like, I feel like, uh, Hokeyville, Gamecockville, I feel like it was good. College you did okay. I didn't do well enough. A lot of people are asking. I did not do well enough on picks though to beat Picante.
00:39:06
Speaker 6: Oh.
00:39:06
Speaker 1: Picante beat me two, two and one to one and two. And Picante's pick segment survives to the shock of nobody.
00:39:16
Speaker 4: So Picante survives, but HB from, or, uh, H.
00:39:22
Speaker 1: BP from the HB. Yeah, he did not survive for the pep talk this week. Feel free to send in your pep talker applications. We need a new pep talker that can scream on thursday about the panthers but actually scream positive stuff is what you need to do uh let's see what else we have here um uh this texture says rivers and canipples is the dirtiest thing i've ever heard without any dirty words in.
00:39:44
Speaker 3: It yeah At some point today, just say Rivers and Knievels and you're better off for it.
00:39:51
Speaker 1: Another texter says, would Phillip Rivers even have time to do the recruiting with all the baby making going on? All right.
00:40:00
Speaker 3: I chuckled. I chuckled.
00:40:02
Speaker 1: Phillip Rivers to the Panthers as coach, somebody says. I think that was coach, not quarterback, I think. Kannapolis Man says, we need to tank for better DBs.
00:40:12
Speaker 4: I believe we have a couple coming back here relatively soon. I don't think you tank for DBs. Not when you're leading a division.
00:40:18
Speaker 1: Why would someone leading a division after six games tank to get a quarterback?
00:40:22
Speaker 3: We should lose games for a corner. Yeah, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Weatherman Mark has checked in.
00:40:29
Speaker 1: Said he is no longer bone banning himself from the text line because Johnny pissed him off so much that he's back. He's a Bryce-hating jackass. He also said, though, I've reduced my win total from 13 to 6.
00:40:41
Speaker 3: Yes. Weatherman Mark's retirement was like a Brett Favre one. So hold on.
00:40:45
Speaker 1: He hates Johnny for hating on the Panthers, but he then took seven wins off his total.
00:40:49
Speaker 3: I've worried with Weatherman Mark. Just don't try to make sense of this.
00:40:54
Speaker 1: Um texter says it felt like yesterday canalis was calling the plays again didn't feel like it's a game at all um i think and and lindsey rose roads was tweeting about this from sumer sports uh bryce didn't get the ball downfield bone way less downfield attempts he had been throwing it downfield completing downfield he only had 19 percent passes attempted 10 yards or more only hit three of them it's because he only had 2.4 seconds before pressure And he got pressured a ton. Like, he didn't have the time bone to get the ball downfield yesterday.
00:41:28
Speaker 4: We'll leave you with this, Mac. First-time texter. They drove from New England to see their Panthers at the bank for the first time ever yesterday.
00:41:35
Speaker 6: Oh, God.
00:41:35
Speaker 4: That was their first-ever game in person, and now they're driving back.
00:41:40
Speaker 1: Holy crap. Panthers, you want to send at least some gas money to these kind folks? I mean, seriously.
00:41:46
Speaker 3: My goodness.
00:41:49
Speaker 7: Oh, man.
00:41:49
Speaker 1: All right, we got to get out of here, y'all. We will talk to you tomorrow. That went well. You know what?
00:41:53
Speaker 3: We're flushing, though.
00:41:55
Speaker 1: I was not going to be like the Panthers and flush it before we got it out of our system, but now we are going to flush it, Bo. We are going to move on. We are going to move on on tomorrow's show. Oh, it feels good now. We got to get out of here. We'll recap the Hornets as well. Duke had a huge exhibition win. Bo, and your Blue Devils didn't even get talked about. That's a shame, man. I can stick around college, Joe. All right, we're out of here, y'all. Good work out of Bone. Fitty, bad work out.
00:42:20
Speaker 3: Of the Panthers.
00:42:21
Speaker 1: We'll talk to y'all tomorrow on the Mac and Bone Show. Colin Hoggard, Charlotte Sports Today. More venting, I'm sure, coming up.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Shoot.
00:00:28
Speaker 2: You know, we go right to it right now. Guys got to go from their locker room right into recovery and those different things. We have all the resources to do that, but we got to move on quickly. The message to the team was, I don't really know what this game would have looked like because of giving up those turnovers and giving 22 points. It's really hard in this league with one turnover, with multiple. It makes it really challenging.
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Speaker 3: That is Dave Canales.
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Speaker 1: Starting off, he was asked if it makes you glad there's a short turnaround after a game like that.
00:00:58
Speaker 3: And I think we all are. Like, don't get me wrong, Bone.
00:01:01
Speaker 1: Like, in a player's mindset, it does need to be flushed. It's just I would have liked addressing how sorry it was. He also said his message was, I don't know what the game would have been like if we didn't give him 22 points off turnovers, which is true.
00:01:16
Speaker 3: But, like.
00:01:17
Speaker 1: That's four turnovers. That's four horrible moments, Bone. You can't just wash those away. And you definitely can't wash away what happened to us in run defense. I don't know. Maybe it's best it's a short week.
00:01:30
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Maybe they're better off just getting right to it.
00:01:33
Speaker 4: The Panthers are really affecting a lot of lives here, looking for tickets on the text line. He's on a diet, and he had to turn to red velvet cake at halftime yesterday, so now his diet's ruined.
00:01:45
Speaker 3: Stress-eating.
00:01:46
Speaker 4: How about Colin came in here during the break, Mac? One of his only hopes of the weekend is the play of Grayson Allen and his big shot he had on Saturday night. Colin is really fired up to have Grayson on his side.
00:01:58
Speaker 1: He's not fully embracing yet that Grayson is so key to his Hornets' success this season.
00:02:05
Speaker 3: But that four-point play was badass.
00:02:07
Speaker 4: His reaction after he hit that shot, by the way, a stone cold kill.
00:02:10
Speaker 3: I know you got hurt on the play. He did.
00:02:11
Speaker 1: I hope he's all right for this week. He wasn't on the injury report, was he? He had a look on his eyes like, yeah, I hit that shot.
00:02:16
Speaker 3: He's a bad dude, man. He's a bucket getter. While EC was yelling chicken salad. And he's like, man, we're going to play that later.
00:02:21
Speaker 1: For those of you wondering, where's the Wolfpack fans might be like, where's my Wolfpack talk?
00:02:26
Speaker 3: We finally canned Doran. I need to hear about it. We might hire Phillip Rivers. That's coming up.
00:02:31
Speaker 1: We're going to do a little Hornets. Wolfpack combination. It's kind of the two things, Bone, that are big deals. The up and down Hornets weekend from booze to bounce back. And then we've got the Wolfpack situation. So we'll do those at 925. Booze and boo. So allow us one more time to get this Panther game out of our system, but to kind of look ahead a little bit. And I do want to give you a little tease here. If you can make it through more venting about this Panther debacle yesterday, you will get a reward. In about 10 minutes, right around 9, 18 or so, we will play a clip that I heard driving home yesterday that was absolute glorious radio. I'm listening to the postgame show, and this guy Johnny, who I've heard on there before, and Johnny's the type of guy that only seems to call in after losses because then it fits his narrative of just apparently hating the team that he says he roots for and hating Bryce Young, the quarterback on the team that we were chanting MVP about a couple weeks ago. But anyway, Johnny is going off on Bryce on the Panthers. and the P-Man is trying to fend him off-bone, and then Smoke Ludwig off the top rope. These boys, like a great wrestling tag team, went at it with Johnny 2-on-1. So we're going to play that post-game clip for you in like 10 minutes.
00:03:50
Speaker 3: I cannot wait to hear that. Mac, do you have insight on this?
00:03:53
Speaker 5: Dr.
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Speaker 4: Suave says, oh, my God, Mac, on the— on the text line dr suave says oh my god mac i felt bad for the panthers pa announcer during the game we were down 33 to 6 and he was trying to fire up the crowd to get the defense go oh my god the crowd was dead silent who's the hype up guy jake Yeah. My God, Jay.
00:04:14
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
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Speaker 1: Oh, between Jake and the dudes, like Charles Johnson and the guys that had to hit to keep pounding drum in the third quarter, it's like y'all got no hope.
00:04:22
Speaker 3: That's a tough crowd out there, y'all. So I did. I fell for them, too. So, Bone, let's ask this question.
00:04:28
Speaker 1: Do you feel like what does the game say big picture? Do you think it says like, oh, crap, we've overrated this team? Or do you think it's just an aberration?
00:04:40
Speaker 4: I think it says that even when they play well or have a win or back to back wins, that they are still in that one of those teams in the league, which is most of them, that they can still have bad weeks. Now, their bad weeks are worse than most. like the second half of Chicago. We can't say the full Chicago game because they were in that for a half, but second half of Chicago all day yesterday, despite them getting better and our vibes feeling better about where the franchise is and where it's going, that they still, Mac, cannot take a team lightly. We cannot take a week off. We cannot take our eyes off the prize, whether it be as the fans, as the coaches, as the players, the whole organization, everyone around here, that they can still lay a giant egg any given week against anybody.
00:05:26
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And I think we all we are.
00:05:29
Speaker 1: Not we are not so far ahead in the south. But we are just like the other team still. And we're not far enough ahead in our rebuild to where we are above this crap, unfortunately. And that is humbling. Vape shop NIL. That's a name there says it sucks worse because the Falcons beat the Niners.
00:05:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
00:05:46
Speaker 1: And the Niners came back, made it interesting. But Brock Purdy threw another interception. See where even the great Brock Purdy can have a rough day. Pat Mahomes, brutal night last night. So that's the one thing I would say about jumping to Bryce Young conclusions. I still think the dude has grown leaps and bounds as a quarterback, but he also, Bone, is not above a game like yesterday as well, where last week, one of the big things I was hitting everybody was with, man, If his game against Philly, 90-plus rating, two touchdowns, zero picks, 281 yards, if that's the low end, if that's a bad game for him, man, this dude is now special.
00:06:24
Speaker 3: Well, newsflash, Mackey, that's a bad game.
00:06:29
Speaker 1: What he played the other day was not his best stuff against Philly, but a pretty good game. This was an abomination. Now, he was under pressure. Walker and Hunt had abysmal days. I just, yeah, Bryce and the team are not beyond days like that.
00:06:45
Speaker 4: I mean, the Panthers have had great days. They've had awful days. The Falcons, Mac, got blown out by us at home. The Bears at home. But they beat the Niners. At home, Tampa Bay's two wins are on the road at Dallas and at the Panthers with their run game. The Saints beat the Ravens, right, on the road at one point, but yet they have five losses still. It feels like any given week, these teams, they're still all jumbled up, and that's what's frustrating about yesterday. I thought we were maybe at a point of maybe... A little separation from the others, but Atlanta wins. Tampa Bay, of course, beat us, and now everyone's just jumbled up again. Even the Saints are not good but hanging around there.
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Speaker 1: All we wanted was a little separation, Boney. That's all we wanted, and we got none, and we're going to have to deal with it. 704 number says, y'all, I'm going to say it, and no one's going to want to hear it this morning. We're beating the Packers on Thursday night. I've seen it before from this team. Just when you think, oh, you're hot garbage now. They come out and play an inspired ball. We brought this up earlier. Now, you're right. Probably most people don't want to hear that. But if you think about the trend Zoki brought up last year, Buffalo blew us out in our house. They went to Lambeau as 14-point underdogs and won.
00:07:58
Speaker 4: And that was his 12-10, the games after losses in his coaching career.
00:08:03
Speaker 1: How about the Niners game last year? Niners beat us. Ugly football game. Very disappointing on Monday night. We come back and beat the Rams as 10-point favorites. So there is a precedent for that. With that said, I am not ready for that kind of talk just yet. I am ready to acknowledge I do expect a spirited effort. But here's the thing. Green Bay is going to feel desperate like Tampa did yesterday. And like you said, Bone, we didn't match their desperation that Tampa had. Green Bay at 4-3 in that division they're playing in, you might as well be 2-5. Because they're in last place in that division. They have to be kicking themselves the way they lost that game late, Bone. The missed field goal and the way they lost that game. And they have things like Jacobs is back, and then you throw in, Bone, the passing game and what that's capable of doing.
00:08:51
Speaker 3: Like, so I don't know what to say yet about Thursday.
00:08:54
Speaker 4: They're going to attack the Panthers the opposite of the way that the Buccaneers did.
00:08:57
Speaker 3: That's the problem.
00:08:58
Speaker 4: The Buccaneers was all running the way that the Packers love those deep shots and take chances. They are going to try to attack the DBs in this game big time for the Panthers.
00:09:09
Speaker 3: Definitely. And just tell me one of them will not be a Caleb Evans. It can't be. Not in this game. Please, God, no. Like, you've got Watson. You've got Golden out there making plays.
00:09:17
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:09:20
Speaker 3: And Love, who's hot despite the loss, hot.
00:09:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, at one point yesterday, he was on pace. He got really slowed down in the second half as the game kind of got more defensive. He was on pace at one point yesterday for 400 yards against the Lions.
00:09:32
Speaker 3: It slowed down through the game, but he was having a hell of a start to that game yesterday.
00:09:36
Speaker 1: He was, and he's been playing like that for the last couple weeks, too. JJ, do not put Evans on that plane. Brian says, I got great news for y'all. We will not give up 250 rush yards. The bad news is Jordan Love will throw for four bills. That's my concern. That's the thing.
00:09:52
Speaker 4: I'm still stuck on yesterday, though. I'm not fully into like the I'm going to get there, but I'm I'm still angry about yesterday. Not going to concern. I mean, yes, we can talk about it, but. You know, I'm still trying to get over yesterday. Never mind Green Bay coming up here.
00:10:08
Speaker 1: This texter says, I don't give a damn about Green Bay, Denver, Baltimore, whoever it is. That team showed you the lack of pride yesterday when they laid down against the sorry Buck squad. Yeah, I mean, I just I don't blame you for feeling that way. It was and we've been venting all day. We've been angry all day because, again, we thought you were past that. And here you show us you can still when you do trip up, man, you just you trip and you fall and bloody your nose and it gets ugly. I will say, Bone, they're not like we know most performances will not be like that. And we do know, I'm telling you, this team is still going to play games the rest of the way that will have you feeling good about the team again. The problem is, where are you really going to get bone in your growth if you continue to be that inconsistent? You might be able to win the South again, but what are you really doing when you get to the playoffs? If you're capable of playing like that, when a team, you know what I mean?
00:11:10
Speaker 3: When a team pressures you and runs the ball.
00:11:12
Speaker 4: I mean, beating, beating green Bay would be great, but then do you, do you have another home? What down against Denver?
00:11:17
Speaker 1: Yeah. It just feels like we're going to be on this. Yo, you called it a yo-yo. It's still thinking about yo-yo back and forth, you know?
00:11:23
Speaker 4: Um, no, I will say the schedule is coming up for both Atlanta and Tampa. Mac are, uh, relatively difficult. Tampa Bay and Atlanta play each other on Sunday. Then Tampa Bay has at the Bears and at the Lions before us again. Atlanta, although they beat the Niners yesterday, Matt, they've got Tampa. They've got Cincinnati, Kansas City, Minnesota, Detroit. So there's a lot of losses there for Atlanta. But again, in this division, who knows week-to-week who may end up winning some of these games.
00:11:53
Speaker 3: No, it's legit.
00:11:54
Speaker 1: This dude said it's a week-to-week league. I think that's all we can say. Yeah, but the weeks that are bad, like two of these weeks have been humiliating from a defensive standpoint. Yesterday, from a whole team standpoint. Chicago, from a defensive standpoint. Ultra Nostalgia Bone says, where were the Panthers at this point last season? 3-3 also, right?
00:12:17
Speaker 3: I think so.
00:12:17
Speaker 1: Because didn't we start 1-3 and then won three in a row to get to 4-3?
00:12:23
Speaker 4: I'm double-checking, but I believe you're right.
00:12:25
Speaker 3: That is correct. Remember, they lost.
00:12:28
Speaker 7: Jacksonville, Arizona, home win over Atlanta, road blowout loss to New England, and then they ratted off the three straight wins to get to 4-3.
00:12:37
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we were.
00:12:38
Speaker 4: We were 2-3, 3-3, 4-3, 4-4, 5-4, 5-5, 6-5, 6-6, 7-6, 7-7, 8-7, 8-8, 8-9. And I guess what I would say, Bone, is last week I did, and maybe I screwed it up. Maybe I messed up again. Bone says, yep.
00:12:45
Speaker 3: I came on and announced, I am back on the 10-win wagon! How do you feel now? Your king has returned. Where is the what? Where is the sheet now, by the way?
00:13:06
Speaker 1: I think they finally trashed that horrible-looking thing. Oh, no.
00:13:09
Speaker 3: I think that happened. Smoke probably did that in the middle of the game yesterday out of frustration. Smoke, shoot it. But, like, I made that big announcement.
00:13:15
Speaker 1: Now should we be back to feeling like, yeah, this is an eight-win, maybe nine-win football team? It's a team similar. And I didn't want to be similar to last year. I wanted to feel like we had grown from last year. Yesterday kind of throws that thought into doubt, you know? But, hey, we got good news for you. You can at least laugh at Johnny. Johnny is the villain in this clip. He likes to troll Bryce, troll the Panthers bone, although he claims to be a diehard Panther fan, calling the postgame show with Willie P and Smoke Ludwig. You'll hear him whining. The P-man is trying to fend him off, and then Smoke Ludwig comes off the top rope bone.
00:13:55
Speaker 3: This is brilliant radio.
00:13:57
Speaker 8: You know what stats are for?
00:13:59
Speaker 3: Losers. Am I correct? Does that mean you're a loser? Because you just used a lot of stats.
00:14:04
Speaker 8: Throughout this phone call. I don't have any stats. I don't play.
00:14:08
Speaker 3: But you just used the stats throughout your phone call, so you just completely.
00:14:10
Speaker 8: You know, this is a problem with your... Before you hang up on me, go ahead and hang up while I say this. This is a problem with your station. Y'all... What is.
00:14:17
Speaker 3: What is the problem with our station?
00:14:18
Speaker 8: Behind this quarterback from day one because they put their owner's station, and that owner is behind them.
00:14:24
Speaker 3: They're not on our station.
00:14:25
Speaker 6: We don't have the Panthers.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: We have no gratitude or anything on the station.
00:14:32
Speaker 8: Why is this other guy on there? When you attack the show, he's got to say something rude. He's not saying anything rude.
00:14:39
Speaker 3: You challenged the point.
00:14:40
Speaker 8: What about your stats?
00:14:41
Speaker 3: Well, you just called everyone at your stats losers. I have no stat.
00:14:47
Speaker 1: How else are you supposed to determine whether or not somebody's– get him out of here.
00:14:50
Speaker 3: Johnny doesn't want to.
00:14:52
Speaker 8: Get me out of here because you're wrong.
00:14:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, P-Man and Smoke. Hit him with the one-two punch, baby. Hit him with a one-two.
00:15:01
Speaker 1: Oh my god that is so entertaining i was listening at driving home we know and i was dying i.
00:15:07
Speaker 3: Don't have stats i don't play yeah we know that.
00:15:09
Speaker 1: Smoke is saying sir you just provided stats which if stats are for losers why would you be citing stat smoke played him man Smoke took time out bone from texting all of us at the station with his conspiracy theories about yesterday's Panther game with his, uh, thoughts about the, uh, NASCAR next gen car bone with his thoughts on whether or not Kyle Larson was below the yellow line. Smoke took time out of all his causes yesterday that he was texting us about to take care of the villain Johnny, and that was beautiful.
00:15:43
Speaker 4: God, that was great stuff, boys. There's a current wrestler, Matt, named Bronson Reed. He does the Tsunami off the top rope. Johnny just got Tsunami right there by Smoke Mugley.
00:15:53
Speaker 1: Oh, man.
00:15:54
Speaker 3: Smokey, get him, baby. And then P came back. Oh, gosh. Anyway.
00:16:00
Speaker 4: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show, we focus on the other team booed in town this weekend, the Hornets. And could NC State really hire Phillip Rivers as their next head coach?
00:16:13
Speaker 3: It's Mac Bone, Phinney, Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
00:16:41
Speaker 5: I told the group.
00:16:42
Speaker 6: Like, you know, this is great for us at home, on the road. If you hear boos, like, you got to be able to play better basketball. That's not something that we can control.
00:16:53
Speaker 5: They are fans. They are entitled.
00:16:55
Speaker 6: And if we're not playing good basketball, I think they understand the game.
00:16:59
Speaker 5: So we totally respect it and we just got.
00:17:01
Speaker 6: To play better.
00:17:03
Speaker 3: That is Charles Lee.
00:17:05
Speaker 1: So that was him before the game on Saturday at the Hive, the one that they would eventually win, Bone, while playing amazing in the third quarter to get a 20-point lead. playing horribly for six minutes and blowing the entire lead, only to finish.
00:17:19
Speaker 3: It off and send everybody home happy.
00:17:21
Speaker 1: But that is before that game, the night after losing by 47, when the fans, and I say good on you, I say good on you for voicing your opinion, just like I say good on the fans at the Panther game for voicing their displeasure, but fans booing at a home opener booth. man it was crazy in the first half.
00:17:42
Speaker 4: They were so happy in the pregame it's the quickest like most joyous celebration of because we were out there for the pregame show and i was saying man it is uh i saw walker man these people are hyped up even without mellow like they're happy I didn't, I did not foresee Mac. I could kind of tell by the matchup that night, like, okay, this, this might be a tough night for Brandon just based off the defense they're going to throw at him.
00:18:04
Speaker 3: But I did not see booing happening that night though. I did not know that was going on there before they got to have franchise.
00:18:10
Speaker 4: I got a standing ovation night one when they got beat by 40, the first game ever.
00:18:15
Speaker 3: That's true.
00:18:15
Speaker 1: That was 40 years ago. And times have changed in this little old town here, Boney. But, um, We do in Charlotte, and fans probably do this everywhere. It's probably not just us. But we can turn a smile into a frown into a full-blown you're dead to me rant in just the blink of an eye. Because the same thing happened at the Panther game yesterday, Bone. At the doghouse, the atmosphere and the vibes were like the best they have been since the playoff game last year.
00:18:46
Speaker 6: Right.
00:18:46
Speaker 1: Like, people were so giddy. There were hardly any Bucs fans at the doghouse. The weather was beautiful. Fans were optimistic. Fans were telling me, we're going to.
00:18:54
Speaker 3: Blow them out.
00:18:55
Speaker 1: We're going to blow them out. And I'll be damn boned if by the time halftime hit, 33-6. I mean, fans weren't even sure they liked Luke Kuechly anymore when he was up there talking.
00:19:05
Speaker 3: Like, they were miserable.
00:19:07
Speaker 1: So we can turn very quickly. What did you think, Bone, about the whole rollercoaster Hornets experience this weekend? I got to be honest, losing by 47 is far from ideal.
00:19:19
Speaker 3: It was humiliating. It was pathetic. It was embarrassing.
00:19:23
Speaker 1: But splitting the weekend, like looking at the big picture, not having Khan, not having Kobe, not having Grant and splitting that weekend.
00:19:32
Speaker 3: I'll take it, man. I'll take it. Yeah.
00:19:33
Speaker 4: They very easily could have lost that second game with a blow 20 point lead or whatever the number was, but they, they hung on some vets like Grayson Allen definitely stepped up.
00:19:44
Speaker 3: Look, it was the way that they lost.
00:19:47
Speaker 4: I mean, to have only four starters, score 18 points total outside of Reed at 17 on Friday night, the other four starters at 18, then they get to the foul line. It was just one of those terrible, awful games. Maybe if that happens back in mid-January in the middle of the season, it's a big deal, but.
00:20:07
Speaker 4: Night one, where the fans are happy and everyone's watching, makes it even worse.
00:20:12
Speaker 3: But I will say, for as bad as the Hornets were that night, and they were, I.
00:20:17
Speaker 4: Just felt going in, when you've got the wing defenders that Atlanta has versus Brandon Miller and not all the starters helping out because of injury right now, that was going to be a tough game. game no matter what I didn't see a 40 point loss but I thought to myself this is going to be a tough game and it turns out it was more than I thought it makes sense and I thought that was a bad matchup that night I thought Brandon came back the next night I think he took it personal I think the whole team took it personal that's the thing I love is they came back they play with an edge on Saturday from the jump like oh they're pissed coach said they're pissed before the game and they showed it and that's all I'm asking for from the Panthers see I can't get away for the damn Panthers is.
00:20:57
Speaker 3: To be pissed off Be pissed off. You're human. You get embarrassed.
00:21:01
Speaker 1: Get pissed off and respond. And the Hornets did that. And I thought Brandon did that, Bone. That 34-point night and to be aggressive, I love it. Shoot 29 times, bro. There's no Khan walking through that door and there's no Kobe. There's a lot of shots to be had. Get your mellow on. Get your mellow on and try to put us on your back a little bit. He had 20 points, Bone, in the first 17 minutes of playing time for himself. Ended up with 34. Had a big jumper late. Got to the foul line throughout the game, including late in that game when we needed him to.
00:21:32
Speaker 3: Dish four assists. Grabbed seven rebounds.
00:21:35
Speaker 1: And some of the defense he played on Saturday night, I thought when he got ISO'd up, it's like, that's the two-way wing right there. Now, I noticed Charles Lee, Bone, is noticing– The pressure that's on Brandon post-new contract and without Khan and Kobe, and a lot of the trash that's being talked about him after the first two games. He was 2-14 Friday night, struggled in game one shooting. Listen to Charles Lee on Saturday night talk about Brandon bouncing back.
00:22:05
Speaker 3: You know, that's why you never overreact to.
00:22:09
Speaker 5: Shooting numbers or shooting slumps or, you know, one game sample sizes.
00:22:13
Speaker 3: That guy has a body of work that is just very impressive.
00:22:17
Speaker 5: And, you know, though he may be struggling offensively, he creates so many good things for us on the offensive end. I thought his defense today was like much improved. That steal he gets on Larson at a crucial moment. I just think that that's just who he is. That's the type of consistent competitor he is. He wants to be an elite two-way player, and he showcased it today.
00:22:40
Speaker 1: Do you think people have been too hard on Brandon through the first couple of games? Or do you think, hey, dude, that comes with the contract?
00:22:46
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, part of it comes with the contract. But we also, as I said after game one, have to remember this guy, just because he signed the contract, doesn't mean his body's ultimately ready to go to start the year in full. He needs to work his way back in a little bit here coming off the surgery. So we've got to give it a little bit more time. And you already saw the other day. He started to show signs that he's breaking out of the slump. So I think it's a little early to start saying he's overpaid and he's this and he's that. I think people just react to that way too early into a season when he's coming off of the surgery also.
00:23:19
Speaker 1: It's such a new role. He didn't play a lot this summer. It's such a new role for him, too. Without his buddies. First of all, you took Lamello away, who would set him up a lot. And then you took away Khan and Kobe, and it's like, there are times, like, you cannot deny the amount of times the ball's given to him late in the shot clock, go get a bucket. It wasn't like that at all in the past. And I think he's adjusting to it. And I think he hit some big buckets, Bo, that way. on saturday night but i don't think you know it's not gonna be without some hiccups it's a completely different role for him but i think he's gonna get it i think he's gonna get there not to mention when the help comes back from con and kobe too it'll be more balanced in terms of who got to get you a bucket late in the shot clock.
00:24:00
Speaker 4: One thing that's been a little eye-opening to me mac is the um The lack of free throw attempts. Also, they've got a that goes into the whole physicality thing. Am I not mistaken? Has Nas Reed attempted a foul shot all year?
00:24:15
Speaker 3: No, zero. Zero free throws.
00:24:16
Speaker 4: Three games for a guy that's involved in that much stuff in the paint and doing all that stuff. No free throw attempts for him. That's a little bit. We need to see him get some points on the line here a little bit. He's still scoring a hell of a lot of points. He is, but I mean, if you add three or four more points from the foul line, what's the guy averaging?
00:24:32
Speaker 1: I do feel like Bone, Nas Reed is another guy I wanted to mention. There are too many times, too, the ball gets thrown to him late in shot clocks. It's like, Nas, go create something from the wing. They didn't ask him to do that near as much in Minnesota. No, he's more of the guy that benefits from the creation. So I do think he is trying to carry more of a load. I'm very surprised he hadn't shot a free throw. But, again, I want Kobe and Khan back. But who knows when that's going to be because they don't tell us anything. They're out tonight. But DeVance is out tonight for Washington. We've got to give the Wolfpack fans some content here, and I'm sure we'll do more of it tomorrow, firing of Dave Dorn after that Stanford train wreck loss on Friday night.
00:25:10
Speaker 3: Um, like, are y'all, are y'all happy about this?
00:25:12
Speaker 1: If you're a state fan, I would have to think like, I don't know if we need to dance on his grave bone. It's not like he was Matt roll for the Panthers or, you know what I mean? Something that just went so horribly. And the dude triggered you. Like he gave y'all a lot of good years. Um, but it just feels like sometimes it's just time to go. It feels like time, man. And it feels like state fans want the administration to ask, can we do more than good?
00:25:38
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:25:39
Speaker 1: And I find it, so I think if you're a State fan, you've got to be happy about the news. DJ Elliott's gone too, the D coordinator. My God, that defense has turned into a mess the last few years. The general manager's gone. Andy Staples said something like they're going to have a new AD too, and everybody's like, what, really? Is that true? And then, so it's not just the Doran part of the conversation. It's then the question of, I know y'all love Phillip Rivers, right? but he's only coached high school ball like he's doing right now in Alabama. I know Gunner's going there, but is he ready for that job?
00:26:19
Speaker 4: And it's a double-edged sword because that can work, and then you have a coach that you know is not going to go anywhere, a quarterback that's not going to jump in the portal. But if it doesn't go well, then it gets a little bit awkward, Mac. CBSSports.com, I can't actually– it's a link to– pack power but the the picture of the candidates list is billy napier from james.
00:26:41
Speaker 1: Madison didn't put that guy off the list although hiring a jmu coach isn't the worst that's true that's true um by the way a texter keeping us honest naz read one free throw in the nets game missed it So one. But I think your point still stands. Well, his percentage is zero still. That is true. He's having 20 points, nine boards, three assists a game, though. But the free throw line could help. He's got to get there a little bit here.
00:27:07
Speaker 3: All right.
00:27:08
Speaker 1: As far as the Wolfpack go, AC says, honestly, it's too bad for him.
00:27:12
Speaker 3: Where's this at here?
00:27:14
Speaker 1: Doran did some really good things at state. He should have been able to go out on his own terms after the season. I think, though, that's we've seen this trend lately where schools want to get out front. Right.
00:27:26
Speaker 3: And maybe it is Philip Rivers.
00:27:27
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because the one thing is, if you get out front, the guys can't leave where he's at.
00:27:32
Speaker 3: Can't pull a Lane Kiffin. how much does it help you?
00:27:35
Speaker 1: Although I guess, I guess you can still kind of know who the guy is come to a deal, even if you don't announce it and maybe do some stuff kind of through back channels. But I just think they want to get out front. They knew they were done with them. And I think they want to get out front. I mean, listen, I felt the same way about James Franklin. Like, yeah, it was probably time to go, but did Penn state really have to do that to him? Like five games after he made the national semifinal. But I think it's the trend now, Bone. I think schools want to be out front because we got Portal coming. We've got money we got to raise for the new coach.
00:28:10
Speaker 4: Here are the names from ESPN.com, right? Five names for NC State. Phillip Rivers, we've talked about him. Scott Satterfield. Georgia D.C. Glenn Schumann. Memphis coach Charles Huff. and Wake Forest head coach Jake Dickert. I keep seeing Dickert pop up. Do you think Dickert would leave?
00:28:29
Speaker 1: I know there's more resources at NC State, but do you think he would leave Wake for State?
00:28:37
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I don't think Manny or Dickert are leaving for a job. That's another one. Staples was talking about Manny, too.
00:28:43
Speaker 4: I don't think those guys, Mac, would be leaving for— Manny's got the Florida tie, so Florida State. I don't think Dickert's leaving for a job in the ACC. I think Dicker would go SEC, Big Ten. I think Dicker wouldn't do that.
00:28:59
Speaker 3: Manny, I could.
00:29:01
Speaker 4: Florida State might come calling for Manny, so I can't say 100%. But I would think that those guys would go... Would Jake Dicker leave for Clemson? Like, to me, it just has... That's interesting. It has to be a job at a high.
00:29:16
Speaker 1: Like, to me, jumping from Wake to State is not enough of a jump to make it worth it.
00:29:20
Speaker 3: Plus, you're leaving Wake....
00:29:24
Speaker 1: A place that I do believe Boney has really taken to, and you're leaving for a rival like that?
00:29:29
Speaker 3: Like, that's the angle, too.
00:29:31
Speaker 1: Like, it's not a big enough jump, is it, to, like, for the backlash you're going to get from Deke fans if you leave.
00:29:37
Speaker 3: I wouldn't think. Same with Manny. This is probably it for C.J. Bailey then, right? He probably enters the portal, right? You would think?
00:29:45
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:29:46
Speaker 1: Is he not going pro at some point? When the hell is he going to the damn NFL? I thought it might be last year. Now I think it might be this year. As far as that list goes, though, there's some good names on that damn list, man.
00:30:00
Speaker 3: Charles Huff is good. Charles Huff. That would be his fourth school in four years, which is crazy. It's like a player.
00:30:05
Speaker 1: But he wins everywhere and he takes players with him. The Indiana coordinators are interesting names. Cignetti's been able to hold on to those guys. Both of those guys are interesting names. Mike Shanahan, right? Shanahan on offense. And is it Haynes? Is that the name of the guy on the defensive side?
00:30:22
Speaker 3: No, not that Mike Shanahan. Schumann from Georgia, D.C. is interesting.
00:30:29
Speaker 1: And then you go to a guy like this dude Eck at New Mexico, right? People are raving about this guy. So, but, but I don't know, but Phillip Rivers is a little enticing bone because you could totally see him come in and gout. You've already seen one of their big boosters, Andy Albright, pump him up on social media, that picture of the two of them. Like if you can get that state money popping, Because they've had more money than Wake and Duke, but they haven't had as much money as the top schools in the ACC. I could see a big influx of money if Philly Riv takes that job.
00:31:06
Speaker 3: Here's the SI list that they have up there. Jake Dickard on that list as well. P.J. Fleck, when he rowed his boat to Raleigh-Mack. Jason Eck, you just mentioned. Dan Mullin.
00:31:16
Speaker 4: Jeff Traylor is the coach at Texas San Antonio. Watch out for him to Baylor, potentially, by the way. Lance Taylor, Western Michigan. Philly Riv.
00:31:26
Speaker 3: Shanahan, we mentioned.
00:31:27
Speaker 4: Schumann and Buster Faulkner is going to be a big name out there, the current OC for the Florida Gators, formerly of Georgia Tech.
00:31:35
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
00:31:35
Speaker 3: He's an interesting name, too. No doubt about it, man. No doubt.
00:31:38
Speaker 1: Boiled Peanuts says, if the Bills were impressed with Rivers in an interview, why on earth wouldn't State hire him? Yeah, that's the thing is the intel out of that. And we all thought it was crazy. Phillip Rivers, high school coach, Bills, NFL interview. But apparently he really impressed people. I saw the article. One of the articles was Feldman talking about how people are wowed by the fact that Phillip Rivers... basically called a lot of his own plays when he was quarterback he's seen as even though he's got this like fiery southern guy's got the twang and the fire he has seen bone as brilliant like so there is that could you get yourself a star who would this dude said i gotta be honest as a state fan if you can raise funds i think that's more important than actual coaching acumen it's fair It's risky, but I understand the enticing nature of it.
00:32:28
Speaker 4: In a few years, in the suburbs, in the Triangle, there could be an entire area that is all just rivers and knipples.
00:32:36
Speaker 3: An entire suburb of rivers and knipples. Oh, my God.
00:32:43
Speaker 1: Carolina Kelly says, he says, on what happened with Dave Dorn, I think the phrase is unceremoniously, uncere, how do I say that word?
00:32:52
Speaker 3: Unceremoniously. We speak for a living. Unceremoniously. There you go. You got it, baby. You got it. Turn it down. He says dismiss.
00:33:03
Speaker 1: Unceremoniously dismissed is what he's saying.
00:33:06
Speaker 4: Also, we got to wish somebody on this show a happy birthday. Someone's got a big old 53 today on the Mac and Bone show. Sports Radio 92.7. Someone's got a birthday. I wonder who.
00:33:42
Speaker 3: Shot clock's down to three.
00:33:48
Speaker 2: Grayson Allen!
00:33:51
Speaker 6: Yes!
00:33:53
Speaker 3: Chicken salad dough! E.C., baby. E.C.
00:33:59
Speaker 1: Back in full effect on that Grayson Allen four-point play. That was mammoth bone. The game was in the balance. We were looking like we might follow up a 47-point L by blowing a 20-point lead. And Grayson Allen said, hell no.
00:34:14
Speaker 4: Hornets said, not this weekend. We'll do something right here in between the misery on Friday and Sunday.
00:34:19
Speaker 3: Not tonight.
00:34:20
Speaker 8: I'm aroused.
00:34:21
Speaker 1: Now, maybe on Monday against the Wizards, maybe we'll do something that'll piss y'all off, but not tonight.
00:34:25
Speaker 4: And how dare these teams. Have bad weekends when my man Mac is celebrating the birthday today.
00:34:33
Speaker 3: How about that? That's right.
00:34:34
Speaker 1: It feels very celebratory. It feels very celebratory today. And Finney's like, what do you got going on? What do you got happening? I don't know about the rest of y'all. When you're 53, it really doesn't feel like, yay, I'm one.
00:34:45
Speaker 3: Year closer to death.
00:34:47
Speaker 1: It just doesn't quite hit the same way as when you're younger.
00:34:51
Speaker 4: No, the milestone birthdays are far and few between. After 40, you kind of just.
00:34:56
Speaker 3: Ah, all right.
00:34:57
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me wrong. 50 is significant, but it's significant like, holy crap, this is bad.
00:35:03
Speaker 3: The age 50, right? Not 50. You mean at the age of.
00:35:07
Speaker 6: 50, right?
00:35:07
Speaker 3: Like, birthdays are no longer a good thing, I feel like, when you're old.
00:35:10
Speaker 1: But I do appreciate folks saying nice things today.
00:35:13
Speaker 3: When you're younger, it's like, yeah, I'm about to turn 21. No one's like, yeah, come on, 50, baby. Yeah. Give me big 5-0.
00:35:19
Speaker 4: I got to tell you, Mac, you don't look or act 53, though.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: I definitely don't act it. I don't know if I look. This gray beard is getting there.
00:35:30
Speaker 1: It's so bad, Bo, when I was at the store, I was checking out the Just For Men for my beard. I'm like, do I dare dye the beard? Because my head's been able to stay non-gray pretty much. The beard, though, is going, man. Ain't no play for Mr. Gray.
00:35:44
Speaker 7: Hey, look, Mac, the salt and pepper look is in. I mean, I think if you could get some salt and pepper.
00:35:49
Speaker 3: Going, okay, I'd spice things up for you in the missing.
00:35:57
Speaker 4: No one is more comfortable talking about guys than Fiddy Morrow is.
00:36:01
Speaker 3: I believe the spice, Fiddy.
00:36:03
Speaker 1: I believe the spice rack might be a little emptier. You got that old spice. We got some old spice. Might be a little emptier than it was back in the day.
00:36:10
Speaker 4: I'm not using an Italian deodorant. Fiddy smelled it for me. Fiddy sniffed my armpits the other day.
00:36:16
Speaker 3: He liked it.
00:36:17
Speaker 1: All right.
00:36:18
Speaker 3: And that wasn't the worst thing that happened in Charlotte this weekend.
00:36:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, I found this deodorant for the Italian man, and I'm using it right now.
00:36:25
Speaker 3: There you go, man. It's called Cremo or something. I don't know. It's delightful.
00:36:29
Speaker 1: Whatever works for you, baby. Whatever works for you. All right.
00:36:34
Speaker 8: 704-5709-610.
00:36:34
Speaker 1: If y'all want to send your text in, fire them into us here. We're getting ready to read some of them off. Do want to mention tonight, you got Hornets Wizards tonight. Still no con, Kobe or.
00:36:47
Speaker 1: Grant uh but you do have bone and kb with the pregame six o'clock tonight the game is at the uh tonight at seven so we got that going on we've got world series game three tonight on fox at eight and you also have obviously monday night football um i'm not even gonna mock the nfc lease today bone i don't feel i don't feel very hoity-toity today like i did last week um you have two and four dallas two and four philly tonight.
00:37:15
Speaker 4: And then you've got Philly also on Sunday Night Football next week as well against the Commanders. Still not sure how that game was not flexed out of there. So we've got Philly on tonight and Sunday Night Football.
00:37:25
Speaker 1: And Bone, we talked earlier about UNC probably had a chance at game day if they beat Syracuse. and it didn't happen. Still on ABC on Saturday night, but not a game day game. The Panthers, is it official, Bone, that yesterday the Carolina Panthers killed the conversation of, hey, you think they're going to flex the Denver Panther game?
00:37:46
Speaker 4: I think we just want them in their one o'clock spot and don't even notice what they're up to.
00:37:51
Speaker 3: Just put them... Yeah, put them on 1 o'clock and just let them be there.
00:37:55
Speaker 1: You don't think we have to worry about changing our plans for that night?
00:37:59
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
00:38:00
Speaker 1: I think we're lucky if they let us play an NFL game after Sunday. And they'll find a way to relegate us, Bone. Because especially McAfee, because they announced that Tuesday, right? So if the Panthers lay another egg... against the Green Bay, just hypothetically speaking. And then are people going to be really fired up that they get that Sunday night game, their next game out after two eggs in a row? Probably not.
00:38:22
Speaker 6: No.
00:38:22
Speaker 3: That would be way too many eggs. That would be an omelet.
00:38:26
Speaker 1: Let's read some of these texts here before we get out of here. Keep them coming, y'all. 704-570-9610 if you want to jump in. JP in Mooresville says, so for Mac's birthday, we got the Mac curse for the whole weekend. Some of y'all did. Some of y'all didn't. There was a bad case here on Friday Night Boat. Bad case on Sunday here in Charlotte. Chapel Hill had an outbreak. Um, but I feel like, I feel like, uh, Hokeyville, Gamecockville, I feel like it was good. College you did okay. I didn't do well enough. A lot of people are asking. I did not do well enough on picks though to beat Picante.
00:39:06
Speaker 6: Oh.
00:39:06
Speaker 1: Picante beat me two, two and one to one and two. And Picante's pick segment survives to the shock of nobody.
00:39:16
Speaker 4: So Picante survives, but HB from, or, uh, H.
00:39:22
Speaker 1: BP from the HB. Yeah, he did not survive for the pep talk this week. Feel free to send in your pep talker applications. We need a new pep talker that can scream on thursday about the panthers but actually scream positive stuff is what you need to do uh let's see what else we have here um uh this texture says rivers and canipples is the dirtiest thing i've ever heard without any dirty words in.
00:39:44
Speaker 3: It yeah At some point today, just say Rivers and Knievels and you're better off for it.
00:39:51
Speaker 1: Another texter says, would Phillip Rivers even have time to do the recruiting with all the baby making going on? All right.
00:40:00
Speaker 3: I chuckled. I chuckled.
00:40:02
Speaker 1: Phillip Rivers to the Panthers as coach, somebody says. I think that was coach, not quarterback, I think. Kannapolis Man says, we need to tank for better DBs.
00:40:12
Speaker 4: I believe we have a couple coming back here relatively soon. I don't think you tank for DBs. Not when you're leading a division.
00:40:18
Speaker 1: Why would someone leading a division after six games tank to get a quarterback?
00:40:22
Speaker 3: We should lose games for a corner. Yeah, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Weatherman Mark has checked in.
00:40:29
Speaker 1: Said he is no longer bone banning himself from the text line because Johnny pissed him off so much that he's back. He's a Bryce-hating jackass. He also said, though, I've reduced my win total from 13 to 6.
00:40:41
Speaker 3: Yes. Weatherman Mark's retirement was like a Brett Favre one. So hold on.
00:40:45
Speaker 1: He hates Johnny for hating on the Panthers, but he then took seven wins off his total.
00:40:49
Speaker 3: I've worried with Weatherman Mark. Just don't try to make sense of this.
00:40:54
Speaker 1: Um texter says it felt like yesterday canalis was calling the plays again didn't feel like it's a game at all um i think and and lindsey rose roads was tweeting about this from sumer sports uh bryce didn't get the ball downfield bone way less downfield attempts he had been throwing it downfield completing downfield he only had 19 percent passes attempted 10 yards or more only hit three of them it's because he only had 2.4 seconds before pressure And he got pressured a ton. Like, he didn't have the time bone to get the ball downfield yesterday.
00:41:28
Speaker 4: We'll leave you with this, Mac. First-time texter. They drove from New England to see their Panthers at the bank for the first time ever yesterday.
00:41:35
Speaker 6: Oh, God.
00:41:35
Speaker 4: That was their first-ever game in person, and now they're driving back.
00:41:40
Speaker 1: Holy crap. Panthers, you want to send at least some gas money to these kind folks? I mean, seriously.
00:41:46
Speaker 3: My goodness.
00:41:49
Speaker 7: Oh, man.
00:41:49
Speaker 1: All right, we got to get out of here, y'all. We will talk to you tomorrow. That went well. You know what?
00:41:53
Speaker 3: We're flushing, though.
00:41:55
Speaker 1: I was not going to be like the Panthers and flush it before we got it out of our system, but now we are going to flush it, Bo. We are going to move on. We are going to move on on tomorrow's show. Oh, it feels good now. We got to get out of here. We'll recap the Hornets as well. Duke had a huge exhibition win. Bo, and your Blue Devils didn't even get talked about. That's a shame, man. I can stick around college, Joe. All right, we're out of here, y'all. Good work out of Bone. Fitty, bad work out.
00:42:20
Speaker 3: Of the Panthers.
00:42:21
Speaker 1: We'll talk to y'all tomorrow on the Mac and Bone Show. Colin Hoggard, Charlotte Sports Today. More venting, I'm sure, coming up.
