Star Trek 2009

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Hello and welcome to Light Camera Aggro, the podcast with two friends, one film, and various agreements.
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I'm Phil.
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Live long and prosper, Nikki.
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And I'm Nikki, and I'll continue performing admirably.
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This week it's Phil's turn to share a movie he loves, and today he's bought the 2009 film Star Trek.
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Before we start, remember this is going to be full of spoilers.
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If you haven't seen Star Trek 2009, where have you been?
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Now's the time to pause the podcast and come back to us when you're done.
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We'll be waiting.
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So Phil, why did you choose Star Trek?
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Nikki, less sarcasm in your voice.
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Can I just point out that I'm going to put a ban on you introducing space films to this podcast?
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You do it all the time, and I do not like space films, so I'm always at a disadvantage and you drive me mad.
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Just this has got to be the last space film.
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But why did you bring it?
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Just to know for all of your listeners out there, Phil's got a sad face.
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And I've got a frustrated face.
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I love Star Trek.
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I think it's I think it's a great franchise.
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There's lots of variations of it.
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I love the original Kirk films with William Shatner in.
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I love the original series.
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I brought this one.
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I really like this film.
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I think it was really good.
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I think the reboot was really good.
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But I thought if we're going to bring a Star Trek film at this point in the podcast, you know, there might be another down the line, a few series down.
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This is the most accessible for you to begin with.
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Why did you explain what you mean by that?
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Well, this in my view, this was made to a wider audience rather than just your typical trekkie.
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No, when I say I'm a trekkie, I don't speak Klingon, I don't dress up, I don't go to conventions.
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I wouldn't have known you were a trekkie, put it that way.
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Because until you said you wanted to do this for this pod when we were planning the list, I don't think I've ever particularly heard you mention it.
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You know, I've heard you mention Star Wars all the time.
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That's because I pretend to be cool all the time.
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No, but do you know what I mean?
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It was I I wouldn't have known you had a lot of people.
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Yeah, no, I love Star Trek.
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Okay.
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But I think with Star Trek comes the whole fandom of oh well you dress up, you do that.
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I mean, fandoms are very massive, aren't they?
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Yeah, I'm very different to that.
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I enjoy what I enjoy, and it's as simple as that.
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So have you seen this before?
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Funnily enough, no.
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That shocks me.
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I I obviously I've heard of Star Trek, but I couldn't have told you really what it was in terms of, you know, I I think I I think there's a TV series.
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There's lots of TV series.
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Okay, well, here's the point.
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There's so many things I don't know specifics.
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I think my understanding of Star Trek is I don't have an understanding of it, but I vaguely remember an old-fashioned TV series from like before I was born, right?
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Being on tele repeats when maybe it was at some holiday in the morning on channel four or something like that.
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I don't know exactly, but I feel like I was aware of it.
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Old.
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William Shatner.
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Yep.
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Was he in the old one?
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He is in the old one.
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That's said in William Shatner's way he speaks.
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That was lost on me.
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I know William Shatner was in it, and I can picture him as a young man in the uniform or whatever.
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So I can picture him.
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I know that Leonard Nimoy is a person in it.
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Spark.
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Thank you.
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And obviously, uh before I watched it, this one, I knew it already.
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And the other thing I know about Star Trek is George Takai.
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Ever said Takai right?
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Now, I have no knowledge about him in Star Trek other than the fact he's in it, but he's brilliant on social media now.
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Oh my.
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Okay, I just say you're saying these things and I don't know.
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George Takai's actual catchphrase.
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Not not Sulu, George Takai.
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It's his oh my LL.
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Well, that doesn't come across in his Blue Sky posts, but he's very good at holding the political people to account.
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He's very good.
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I really enjoy him.
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So I followed him.
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I used to follow him on Twitter before I got rid of my account, and now I follow him on Blue Sky.
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And I really like him.
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So that was my I know he's involved, and I don't know anything else.
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The only other thing, and this is where all my information comes, is the song Star Trekking.
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So I didn't know.
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Always go follow with Cosmico Fire.
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So I know that those lyrics and stuff.
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Is that a Spit Limited song?
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No, it was by I think it was by the firm it was called.
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It was 1987.
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It's on my it's on my greatest hits of 1987 double cassettes.
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Of course it is.
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But that's why I know it intimately well.
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But yeah, that's my that is literally my experience.
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And when you said I was surprised when you said last week we were doing it from 2009, because I didn't know there was a film from then.
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I thought we were gonna be doing some old thing from the 60s.
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So this was uh yeah, completely surprise to me, really.
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One of my more modern films.
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Yeah, I knew nothing about it going in.
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Is this my most modern film to date?
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I think possibly.
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Yeah, I think most of my early 80s, mid-80s.
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And also, the last thing that from my sort of preconceptions to say, I realised as I started to press play, uh, metaphorically, on my streaming service.
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I did not I had no clue.
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Is this gonna be scary horror drama?
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Is it gonna be a comedy?
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Is it slapstick?
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Is it fantasy?
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I just didn't even obviously I know it's in space.
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Serious science fiction, Nicolette.
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No clue about how it was gonna be.
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And the fact that this thing has been around, Star Trek has been around for so many decades, I guess.
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I found that interesting that I just it's never infiltrated in my consciousness.
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You know, interesting.
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So we shall start.
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Okay.
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The opening shot is of the USS Kelvin and the spinning space shot.
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Already I look confused.
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That's the spaceship.
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Yeah, now I'm gonna just say this now because it'll this will be a repeated point otherwise if I don't.
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Like with many of the spacey things you've made me watch, there's terminology that I have no clue what it means when I hear it, and so I just let it wash over me, and then I kind of get the gist of the film, and that was the same thing.
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But when you've just said Kelvin, I didn't I didn't hear that mention.
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I'm sure they said it probably, but I didn't know what it was, didn't hear anything be mentioned.
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And when I started to read articles about this afterwards, they kept mentioning Kelvin stuff, and I'm like, I don't know what that is.
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So there's that.
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So the reason why the Kelvin, right, is this event.
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I'll explain this before we go into details.
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So one of the things with rebooting Star Trek as they did, because as we know, Chris Pine plays a younger version of Captain Case, Trekkies are very, very knowledgeable about well, you can't do that because that didn't happen in the original.
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It's not canon in the last one.
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Yeah, it's not canon.
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So with this film, you've got the big shift that comes through and attacks the USS Kelvin, which didn't happen in the original timeline.
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So it veered off like it.
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Remember in Back to the Future, where an alternate timeline happened?
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So this is an alternate timeline to the William Shatner Star Trek, so they could get away with doing what they wanted without the trekkies going, well, that's not canon, that didn't happen, that didn't happen.
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And as I'm not a trekkie, I don't mind about that.
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They can do what they like, but it just yeah, I didn't realise.
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And it took me ages to realise that that opening bit with Kirk's dad was Kirk's dad.
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I thought that was Kirk.
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Did you recognise the actor?
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Well, only I was surprised because I didn't recognise him, and then when I looked him up, it's a Helmsworth, isn't it?
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It's Chris Helmsworth.
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It's him out of Ghostbusters and Thor.
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I didn't think it looked like him.
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It was it was before he got the part of Thor, just before.
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I know he's obviously much younger than he is in Ghostbusters.
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Hair's a bit shorter and stuff.
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But so I I I didn't realise it was Kirk's dad, I thought it was young Kirk, and then when he died quite quickly, I was a bit like oh, and then we're gonna go back to the beginning and see him as a boy, and are we just gonna basically lead up to his death?
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And that's gonna be a really sad story.
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That was I got very confused quite a lot, but then kind of worked it out eventually.
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Okay, so that's where I was.
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So we start off in the bridge of the USS Kelvin, and they see a lightning storm in space.
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And as this lightning storm happens, a huge ship, like 20 times the size of their ship, comes through and then just immediately starts attacking them.
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They don't know why, they don't know what's going on, and start attacking them.
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Next thing, get a voice call from the other ship, they want the captain aboard.
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So the captain gets in the ship, and on his way to the captain, get onto the ship, he starts speaking to Mr.
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Kirk.
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There's a first reference of Kirk and says, You're gonna take over now, you're captain.
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Now the original captain flies across to the ship and they ask him, What time is this?
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What year is this?
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Because they've come back in time, they don't realise on me.
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I just forced this one.
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I just let it, you know, I just let it happen.
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So they come back back in time and then they kill the captain.
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Harsh.
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Yeah, they stab him in the chest.
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Yeah, Kirk decides he's going to ram the ship.
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It's the only way to save all the crewmates.
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So he sends them all out, but as he's sending them out, we see his wife.
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He has to send his pregnant wife away, who's in labour.
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He was in labour.
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I don't know why he's on the bridge while she's in labour, he should have been in you know, but he was.
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As he's driving the ship towards the big ship to collide, he realizes that auto navigation won't work, so he has to stay.
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I I miss that.
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I just I thought he knew he was gonna have to die.
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No, he didn't.
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His wife gives birth very quickly, very quickly within minutes.
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It's a very, very quick labour.
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It's a plot device, yeah.
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Very, very big plot device, and they they talk on intercom.
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What should we call them?
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And he says, Why don't we call him after your dad?
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And he goes, Tiberius, no, that's awful.
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So what about your dad, Jim?
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So he becomes James T Kirk, and then he dies.
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And I said, What a random opening in my nose.
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What am I I've just I felt I just thought that was Kirk was dead.
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I thought the Kirk that William Shatner plays that is the main character that I am aware of has just died.
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And now we're gonna go back to the beginning and find out all of his life leading up to that again.
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And I don't want to watch that film because that's gonna be very depressing.
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Well, there is a random bitterness, I'll get to that in a minute, which I don't understand why they did it, because I don't understand what anyway.
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So we then go to Vulcan, right?
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Vulcan's a planet, yeah.
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I work that out eventually.
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Yeah, which is all the pointy eard.
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Yeah.
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I guess so.
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And they they just pure logic, they don't they suppress emotions, and they just have logic.
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Yeah, I enjoy people that do that.
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And we see a young Spock, and he is doing computations in a holographic, like a little dome.
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He's very good at it and he's winning and he's getting everything right, and then some other kids come up to him and try and provoke his emotions because Spock is half human, he gets a reaction because they speak about his mother.
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Winona.
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Winona.
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One of the things is this did you not realise the cast that's in this?
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No, I had no clue, no clue at all.
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You told me last week, Chris Pine, who I vaguely know who he is, but that's about it.
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But yeah, Winona, and you know, we didn't have much to do.
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No, she didn't.
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But yeah, she was there.
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I enjoyed it.
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This is pretty stranger things.
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Anyway, it was post a bunch of brilliant things in the 90s.
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We then cut to a shot of a young boy driving a Ford Mustang, I think it was.
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I don't know, it's a car.
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Yeah, that happened before the Spock stuff.
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Did that happen that way?
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Well, in my notes it did, and I don't I can't see the future, and I have never seen it before, so I'm guessing it did.
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But I don't think it matters.
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It's just the way it's set up, isn't it?
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So this is the scene I don't understand.
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Okay, go on.
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I'll see if I can explain it to you.
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So I've got no clue.
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Thank you.
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No clue, go on.
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So he's he's driving away from the house in a sports car.
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Joey riding, his stepdad comes over the intercom.
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Okay, Greg, he's oh I forget his say her name, he's always in JJ Abrams stuff.
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Right?
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Okay, you would know his face anyway, but anyway, he's uh he's over the intercom and he's saying, You better bring that car back, buddy.
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This is my house, my reels.
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He drives past somebody, which we don't know because it's not referenced, and the like kids shocked as drove past them.
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Then a police officer comes and tries to pull him over, so he decides to dump the car off a cliff and jump out, yeah, and then he gets asked, Who are you?
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and he goes, It's James T.
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Kirk.
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I don't understand this scene.
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I don't know why it was in there.
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He's a kid because it then jumps forward again.
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And I don't know.
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Well, well, basically, yeah, he's older.
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I guess is he showing us that he is a reckless, wild devil maker, rules are made to be broken, kind of personality.
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Yeah.
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I guess that's all it is.
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We're seeing the two children of what's his name, uh, Kirk and Spock in their similar age being very different.
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He is just wild and Joy Riding against police attention, and Kirk is little maths nerd doing his little maths.
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No, no, Spock, sorry, Spock.
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Yeah, but Jim, I think that's probably all it is, just to show a comparative Yes.
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I'd I'd never realised that before, so Kirk's a bit more, he'll do things by on a whim where Spock's all parking.
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He's reckless.
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So we then jump to a scene where we see Spock's mother when on a rider.
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Okay.
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And we see Spock for the first time, Zachary Quinto.
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Yeah.
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And he's older.
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And he's gone, he's gone and been accepted for the Vulcan Science Academy.
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Okay.
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Oh I'm just going with this because I can't, I didn't make notes about this.
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And the they they're saying he he's uh the Vulcan Academy are saying so it's really impressive that you've got to this point because of your disadvantages.
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And at this point, he looks and he goes, What do you mean, disadvantages?
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He goes, Your human mother.
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So he goes, I decline the request.
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And they say, Well, no Vulcans ever declined this request.
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He said, Well, season of a half human, your record remains complete.
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Yeah, yeah, I did see, I remember that.
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And he decides to join Starfleet.
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He stands up for his mum, which is nice.
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Yeah, she's lovely.
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Back on Earth, Kirk is in a bar.
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Oh, okay.
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I didn't think they were in Earth.
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Okay, that's fine.
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Yep, San Francisco.
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Oh, nice.
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Yeah.
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Is it San Francisco?
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Utah.
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Anyway.
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Sanquis is not San Francisco.
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No, Starfleet's headquarters is San Francisco.
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Okay, okay.
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He's in a bar and he tries to chat up an Academy member.
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Yes.
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Uhura.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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I wasn't sure how to say her name.
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Uhura.
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I spelled it out.
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Yeah.
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She's having none of it.
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There's an alien sitting between them.
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Yeah.
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Is that just because we're in the future and that's the same thing?
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Yeah, because there's because Starfleet is multi-univer multi-planets come together to create harmony and offend each other and help each other.
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Nobody told me that because for a long time I didn't understand what the Starfleet even was.
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So that immediately makes sense.
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But no one explains this when you just watch this blind.
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I can't believe you did not Google this before you actually started.
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I didn't know this.
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I think I I honestly think if you're gonna watch a film, you should be able to go in blind and get what get stuck enough of it to make it.
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The thing is, I think as you go through this film.
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But I think as you go through this film, it does spell it out to you.
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Anyway, he tries to chat up a horror, she's having none of it.
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He's a pain in the ass guy, though.
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Yeah, he's an absolute pesterer.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And he but the thing is, he's clever as well.
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He's not just an idiot, he's very clever.
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Doesn't always let it show though at this point.
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No, one of the other academy cadets comes over and goes, This guy bothering you, and she goes, No, I can handle him, and he goes, Yeah, you can handle me.
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And then ends up getting into a fight and he gets his ass kicked.
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It's all a bit roadhouse.
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Very, very roadhouse.
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And he gets his ass kicked, basically.
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And as he's getting beat up, you hear a very loud whistle, and it's Captain Pike.
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It's Bruce Greenwood.
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Bruce Greenwood, yet again.
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I like him in this role.
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I really think he was good as Pike.
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When you said yet again, what are you referring to?
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We already had him in something.
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Yeah, we had him in another another podcast, and I said, Oh, you really like Bruce Greenwood?
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And you went, Do I?
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I mean I don't not like him, but I don't think I I didn't realised that expressed that.
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Oh, yeah, I can't remember when we talked about him, but yeah.
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He was in a film like not all the presidents men, but something like that he was in.
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I don't think he's in any of them.
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Yeah, I know he's in national treasure too, but you want to see.
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Well, I saw one of them once in a hotel, doesn't matter.
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So anyway, he clears the bar, Captain Pike clears the bar, and then speaks to Kirk.
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And he goes, I can't believe you are who you are.
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And he's like, I was I wrote my dissertation on the USS Kelvin.
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Right.
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Right?
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So that's references the opening scene.
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He says, Your father was captain, and Kirk's like, whatever, whatever, he's not interested.
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And he goes, I like I like your willing to jump into things head first.
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He said, I think some Starfleet is lacking.
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He said, We're a bit too clinical at the moment.
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Yeah.
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And he says, Come and join Starfleet, and he goes, No, whatever.
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And he goes, Your your father was captain of a starship.
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And he goes, and Kirk says, much good that didn't mean he says, Your your father was captain of a starship for 11 minutes and saved the entire crew.
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I dare you to do better.
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Yes.
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Everyone's got daddy issues in this.
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Well, certainly Spock and Kirk have got daddy issues.
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This is what this is.
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Oh, Spock's got a mummy issue because Spock was mummy issues.
00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:03.119
No, but there's a lot of stuff with his dad.
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Sarek.
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I don't know.
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He had a bitchy little fringe.
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Yeah, that does the Vulcan haircut.
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Oh, is it?
00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:10.160
Okay.
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Yeah.
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Kirk that night goes for a drive on his little motorbike and he overlooks a shipyard and he can see a starship getting built.
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And you know what?
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He goes, fuck it, let's go and let's go and join.
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So he drives up, gets on the shuttle.
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As he gets on the shuttle, he sees a hood and he goes, Hi.
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I'm sure she's made up.
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Yeah, she rolls.
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And then he sees the guy who beats him up and he goes, Nice work, cupcake, and then sits down.
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You then start to hear some moaning voice, and it is Carl Urban.
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You know, do you know Carl Urban?
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I didn't know who he was.
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I looked him up on IMDb.
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He plays, well, and this is Dr.
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Mc Leonard McCoy.
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Yes.
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And he's Bones.
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Yeah, bones.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So basically he says to Kerk, he says, I'm afraid of flying in space.
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You can get this, you can get that.
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And he goes, Starfleet operates in space.
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He said, My wife divorced me.
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She took everything.
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She took everything except my bones.
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Yeah.
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That's where it comes from.
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Yeah.
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So he's the he's he's the doctor.
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He is.
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Well, yeah, I mean he's the doctor of the starship, basically.
00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.920
Well, I I realised as I was watching this is that I had heard of Kirk, I'd heard of Spock.
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I did not, I've never heard of Bones.
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Yeah.
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Is there a bones in the thing?
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Okay, right.
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So the I was so limited.
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Okay, fine.
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I was very limited in my preconceptions because I didn't even know any of these other characters.
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I didn't know Uhuru.
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Although is that Michelle somebody?
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Yeah, so I have heard of her, but I didn't know the character's name.
00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:39.359
Yeah, so bits and pieces are kind of yeah, new to me.
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Yeah.
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He'd spoke with Pike a few minutes earlier, and Pike said you can be an officer in four years.
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He said, I'll do it in three.
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Cut to three years later.
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Yeah.
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Three years later, the massive ship and a lightning storm happens again.
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And through this little through this lightning storm, a little ship appears.
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Captain Nero, which you see him for the first time.
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Yeah.
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Oh, he's the Romulant.
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The Romulan.
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Oh, look at you.
00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:08.559
Hello.
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And I didn't realise until I looked in.
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Eric Banner.
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I did not.
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I saw the list of cut of people.
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I knew Eric Banner was in it somewhere, and I did not know until I went back at the end that he was Eric Banner.
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It doesn't look like Eric Banner that I know.
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So far.
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What's interesting a bit later on, I'll jump a bit ahead here.
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There's a scene where Kirk and Spock beam onto his ship, and the guy who looks and goes, tells the captain, it's Eric Banner's brother, and he just visited Seth and he went, Do you want to be in the film?
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And he just got that little part.
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So that's gonna be me one day in a Marvel movie.
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Okay, yeah, of course it is.
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Yeah.
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So we cut to an outside shot of San Francisco.
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Did you see the Golden Gate Bridge?
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Or were you busy making notes?
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Probably making notes.
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Right.
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Oh, is okay.
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Is this when they're sort of in training?
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Yeah.
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And Kirk's talking to McCoy Bones about redoing the Kobayashi Maru.
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Now, I get this will go over your head, the Kobayashi Maru.
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In Star Trek 2, there was rumours that they were killing off Spock, which they did at the end.
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When you say Star Trek 2, what year are we talking this before after?
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I was like 80s.
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Oh, right, okay.
00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:21.920
So what, yeah, 80s.
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There was rumours they were killing off Spock.
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What they did is at the very beginning, they added a little scene on where it was a training mission called the Kobayashi Maru.
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And Spock pretends to die in it because it's getting blown up and stuff.
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A bit like what kind of happens in this to throw everybody off the fact that Spock was actually going to die at the end of the movie.
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But they said it was impossible to win.
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The only person that ever won it was Kirk.
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So this was showing us how he did it.
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Oh, I see.
00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:54.240
So, okay, because this is his sort of origin story.
00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:54.799
Yeah, I see.
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So it shows that.
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So basically, it's an unwinnable situation.
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You know, the the programme of the Kobayashi Maru is you've gotta face death.
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That's what they were trying to do with the test.
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But Kirk does not believe in the no-win scenario.
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So he reprograms the test so he can win it.
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So we did cheat.
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So we cheated.
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I didn't know if he had when they put him on trial.
00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:22.799
So there was a scene a little bit earlier where you see him in bed with a green girl.
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He's shocking a green woman.
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Yep.
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Right, basically.
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The Horu's flatmate.
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Yep.
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Right.
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He gives her something to plug in.
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It's in a deleted scene, this, to plug into a computer, and when it plugs into the computer, it uploads the software, and that's why I was down.
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I did not know if he would really cheated or whether he'd just been accused of cheating and he was no 100% cheating.
00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:45.119
He did cheat, okay, fair enough.
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But he ended up getting a commendation for original thinking.
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Right.
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Right?
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Because he cheated.
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Because the green woman was yeah.
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And he's it's well when he's doing it, he's so cocky.
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He's in his own.
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Now the apple bit references in Star Trek 2 when Kirk is talking about it, he's eating an apple.
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So here's what's gonna happen as we go on.
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You need to stop referencing all of the little tiny things.
00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:19.119
I'm so excited! But you can just say that's an Easter egg, or that because otherwise because it's it doesn't mean anything to me, and it's and it's gonna delay this narrative.
00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:24.319
But you can point it out, but you don't need to explain every single thing because that we'll get nowhere.
00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:27.359
Yeah, so so he basically wins the Kobe Ashimaru.
00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:28.240
Yeah.
00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:31.920
One of the lecturers says, How did he beat your test?
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:33.920
and the camera moves, and it's on Spock.
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He goes, I do not know.
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Next thing we have a court meeting, and Kirk is in the dock, and Kirk says, I believe I can face my accuser.
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So they call down Spock, and then they start arguing.
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And he goes, Spock says to Kirk, you of all people should know that there is no such thing as a win, no win scenario because your father dies.
00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:00.480
Yeah, just as about to really kick off between them.
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There's a distress call from Vulcan.
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Mid-trial.
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Mid-trial, and all the cadets get called to the ships.
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As they're getting called, Kirk's name's left out.
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He's grounded.
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He is grounded.
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McCoy feels a bit guilty.
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So he gives him a vaccine to I think it's Bavarian Mudfleas.
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I don't know.
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I forget it is Mudfleas, whatever it is, I forget the first name.
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Bavarian.
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Something like that.
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And it makes him sick.
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Yeah.
00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:29.519
Yeah.
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He argues to the security officer, he has to take care on board because he's my patient and I'm looking after him.
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:37.759
Yeah.
00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:39.359
So they get on board.
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Give the obligatory shot of the Enterprise.
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In every single film, there's always a sexy shot of the Enterprise.
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Sexy.
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This is the first time.
00:24:48.079 --> 00:24:50.960
So this is like a more modern version of the Enterprise.
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:57.279
It still looks exactly the same, but they've changed a couple of bits, they've rounded it here, done this, done that.
00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:59.920
Or we always get that in a Star Trek film.
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.000
So it was at this point I had this thought.
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:03.279
So I'm going to share it now.
00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:03.839
Right.
00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:10.799
So you know how because Back to the Future, bear with me, is brilliant what's brilliant.
00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:17.119
But it's it's for me, it's the definitive well it's for many other reasons it's a brilliant film.
00:25:17.200 --> 00:25:20.079
But it to me it's the definitive film about time travel, right?
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:22.000
And it's fictional, obviously.
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:22.400
Yeah.
00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:38.559
But that if I ever watched another film about time travel, I would be expecting the rules that Back to the Future set up to be applicable to this time travel film, even though it's bollocks because time travel doesn't happen, and you can make up your own rules in a fictional fantasy thing.
00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:47.279
So I'd be expecting that another time travel film to mention the flux capacitor, or that you've got to have a nuclear reaction to get the 88 point gigawatts.
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:48.079
Well, I can't remember.
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:48.720
Right, all that.
00:25:48.880 --> 00:26:06.160
So when I'm watching a space film, and you're going on about Vulcan and Starship Enterprise and Kelvin and I need Star Wars to be consistent and mention Kelvin and Vulcan and nonsense.
00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:16.640
And I need aliens to mention I need them all to be consistent in the same universe, and they're not, and I don't like it because it's more I have to remember more stuff.
00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:23.839
So it's so I'm watching this and I'm having to just and you know it's not my genre, and it's just not my thing.
00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:30.160
So I'm clinging on to stuff, and it's just like it's confusing.
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:32.240
There's so much that's confusing.
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:36.079
So all the stuff you've explained, loads of it, I didn't know when I watched this.
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:39.279
Like as I'm watching it, I couldn't have told you that was happening.
00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:41.759
The Kobe Kobe Ashimuru.
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:43.200
Right, don't even know what that is.
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:45.920
And I kind of I know now it's a simulation and he cheated in it.
00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:46.160
Yeah.
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:50.319
And I knew they were doing a simulation of something, but those words I've never I don't even know.
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:51.279
Did they say them in this?
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:52.960
Okay, well, it went over my head.
00:26:53.119 --> 00:27:01.279
So much of it went over my head because I didn't understand it, so therefore I just have to keep holding on to because you're just clinging on.
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:03.359
Klingon, if you like.
00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:04.480
You have to cling to it.
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:09.359
But there was there wasn't even a cling on in this.
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:11.519
No, there's not clingons in every single Star Trek.
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:13.119
Well that's what I know from the Star Trekking.
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.880
But this is why they chose Romulans as the bad guys because you always.
00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:18.400
Oh, Klingons, bad guys.
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:18.799
Yeah.
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:19.279
Okay.
00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:20.160
This is the point.
00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:34.559
There's loads of things, loads of terminology, loads of made-up stuff, loads of planets, loads of alien races that just went over my head, which made it really hard because there's a lot of technical language thrown at each other when they're all, you know, deciding what they're gonna do or whatever.
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:40.559
And so I just struggle this is why I struggled with it in terms of understanding the actual plot.
00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:40.880
Yeah.
00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:49.599
So I'm we're going through this now, and I've made all my notes, and a lot of my notes wouldn't explain the plot to someone who doesn't know it because the I'm explaining in more details to the city.
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:51.359
Yeah, you are helping now, that's fine.
00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:53.599
It's just this is where I'm coming from, just letting you know.
00:27:53.920 --> 00:27:55.920
Kirk's getting more sick off the vaccine.
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.960
Spock enters the bridge, and Captain Pike orders the ship to Vulcan.
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.400
The new pilot forgets the parking brake.
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:05.200
Sulu.
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:06.240
Sulu.
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:06.640
Yeah.
00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:07.359
I liked him.
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:08.160
John Chow.
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:08.799
John Chow.
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:09.359
John Chow.
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:09.920
He's good actually.
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:11.039
Cho Chow, Chow.
00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:12.000
C H O.
00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:12.960
Yeah.
00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:14.240
Chow, Chow.
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:15.440
He's very good.
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:16.240
He does a very good thing.
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:16.640
He's great.
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:17.119
I liked him a lot.
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:18.720
From Harold and Kumar.
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:21.599
The fleet have already left.
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.880
And there's obviously a plot device, the parking brake being on.
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:28.480
The extitial inertial dampener wasn't taken off.
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:29.440
Lol's.
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:30.000
Yep.
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:31.440
Easy for you to say.
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:33.359
I'm all about detail.
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:37.279
They realize what's going on and they head to warp.
00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:43.119
As they are in Warp, we're then introduced to Chekhov.
00:28:43.519 --> 00:28:44.720
Antony Elchin.
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.839
A lovely, lovely boy man.
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:48.319
Yeah.
00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.000
And he does this part really well.
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:50.400
Yeah.
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:54.799
You know, the over the top Russian accent.
00:28:57.759 --> 00:28:58.880
Wikta Wikta.
00:28:59.119 --> 00:28:59.279
Okay.
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:04.400
Because that's exactly how the original actor spoke back in the 60s.
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:05.359
Yeah.
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:05.920
Okay.
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:07.759
So it's over the top.
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.240
So he's explaining what's going on in the mission to everybody on the ship.
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:20.559
Kirk hears it and realizes a lightning storm in space, and he realizes that happened on his birth.
00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:21.359
Yeah.
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:27.359
So he runs to a horror and he's starting to get like swollen hands at this point.
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:28.720
You see his big hands.
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:30.400
Yeah, I don't remember this, but go on.
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:30.880
Yeah.
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:33.359
And like, oh my god, what's happening with your hands?
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:40.400
And he goes, The transmission you intercepted when the Klingons got battered, was it the Romulans?
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:42.400
She goes, Yes, yes, the Romulans.
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:46.400
We're not running into an emergency situation, we're running into a trap.
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:47.200
Okay.
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:48.000
Right.
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:53.680
So he runs to the bridge, and like Pike is shocked to see him there because Kirk shouldn't be on the ship.
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:54.720
What are you doing here?
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.119
And he says, We need to stop the ship, we need to stop the ship.
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.480
Which Spock jumps up because him and Spock don't get on, obviously.
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:05.359
And he goes, What you're trying to stop the ship mid mid warp during a rescue mission?
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.200
And he says, This isn't a rescue mission, we're heading into a trap.
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:11.839
And he says, What evidence of this?
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:21.920
And he says, I heard it intercepted this communication on my birthday's lightning storm and spike in space, and then Spock goes, the cadets logic has sound.
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:24.960
They come out of warp, and there's already been a battle.
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:25.680
We don't see the battle.
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.680
All the ships have been blown up and stuff.
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:29.039
Little Easter egg here.
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:33.680
If you know where to pause it, you see R2 D2 from Star Wars floating in space that they put in.
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:34.720
Yep.
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:41.039
They see the massive ship, and the massive ship is drilling into Vulcan.
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.759
The massive ship starts attacking the Enterprise.
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:52.079
And as it's attacking it, Nero recognises the ship and says, Stop, zoom in on that hull.
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:53.839
And you see the Enterprise.
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.359
So he then opens communications.
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:03.519
And I love this where he goes, I'm Captain Pike, and then Nero comes and goes, Hello.
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:05.839
It's just weird for now it was.
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.759
And he says, I want to speak to your Vulcan crew member, Spock.
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.319
And Spock's confused, he's like, I don't know.
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.079
You goes, No, you don't know me yet.
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:16.640
And this is where you then know they're from the future.
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:18.799
Okay, so will that pass me by?
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:23.839
My first point around here is are we supposed to think Kirk is an absolute dick?
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.240
Kirk is just different to how they are.
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:29.519
He's not I think he's an absolute dick, early doors.
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:30.240
Yeah, probably is.
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:32.000
But I didn't know if we were supposed to.
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:33.519
Is this what Shatner was like?
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:34.640
That's sort of my question.
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.160
No, because this is pre-Shatner.
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:36.880
Oh, okay, yes.
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:38.000
This is his young days.
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:38.799
Yeah, I keep forgetting.
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:40.640
He's less refined in this.
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:42.480
He's a cocky little bastard.
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.200
Yeah, well, that's that's what he's supposed to be.
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:50.640
He's supposed to be on the edge and different to the regulations of Starfleet and stuff like that.
00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.880
Yeah, floating the rules all the time and stuff like that.
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:54.720
What else did I have to say here?
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:55.279
No.
00:31:55.440 --> 00:32:00.000
Oh, it's just but I've just made loads of notes about what's happening, and none of it really is clear.
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:01.680
So you're being more specific.
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:03.440
So I'm just trying to match up.
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:08.640
So Nero demands that Pike, Captain Pike, comes onto the ship.
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:16.400
And Pike on his way to the shuttle says, I need somebody who's good at combat because you're going to be on a mission.
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:22.160
He picks Sulu because Sulu's great at fencing, which is an Easter egg to what happened in the original series.
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:23.119
Okay, fair play.
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.440
He picked Kirk because Kirk's not supposed to be there.
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:25.680
Yeah.
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.039
And then he picked Olson.
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:28.799
Olsen's a red shirt.
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:29.920
What does that mean?
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.000
You're a red shirt, you're dying, basically.
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:32.799
Oh, right, okay.
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:33.359
Fodder.
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:37.519
Any any anyone who goes on an away mission who's in a red shirt, you know they're going to be killed off.
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:39.279
That's it's a Star Trek thing.
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:40.880
But does Olson know that?
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:41.279
No.
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:43.279
No, okay, we know it as an audience you mean.
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:45.519
Yeah, it's it's an Easter egg thing in the audience.
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:45.920
Okay.
00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:55.440
So in the shuttle, they the three members, Kirk, Sula, and Olsen, are all kitted up and they skydive down to the platform.
00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:01.839
And then what one of the things particularly good at this moment is the use of silence, which is really, really quiet.
00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.000
And as they get faster and faster, the noise builds up and builds up.
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:07.920
The tension's really good in this.
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:12.240
Olsen's a bit of a cocky bastard, and he wants to open his shoot the last.
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:17.039
He lifts it up and then basically bounces off the platform and gets burned to death.
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:22.000
So that just leaves Sulu and Kirk on the platform.
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:30.319
As they land on the platform, Sulu's shoot gets dragged off, so he's struggling a little bit, and Kirk starts to fight with the Romulans.
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:37.279
They both basically win and then they stop the drill from drilling into the centre of the planet.
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:38.000
Yeah.
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.160
At this moment, it's too late.
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:49.119
The Romulan ship fires a torpedo into the planet inside the torpedo's red matter, which is what creates the black hole.
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:50.000
Right, okay.
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:52.960
I know they had to launch the red matter, didn't really know what the red matter was.
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:55.759
So we know Vulcan's doomed at this point.
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.319
Okay, I didn't at this point, but that's fine.
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:04.799
Both Sulu and Kirk fall off the platform and start to fall to their death.
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:12.800
And Chekhov says he knows how to do this, and he runs to the transporter beam and manages just to beam them just before they hit the floor.
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.639
They're like inches away from the floor.
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:15.440
Yeah.
00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:19.840
As they get beamed on, Spock beams to the planet.
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:21.360
He wants to go and save his mum.
00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:22.960
Yes, his parents.
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:23.519
Yeah.
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:34.639
He runs into the catacombs and gets them, and as they come out, they're about to be beamed up, and some of the cliffside gives way, and Amanda falls to her there.
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:35.280
Winona.
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:36.239
Her mum.
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:37.280
His mum.
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:38.000
Yeah.
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.840
And at that point, well, I didn't really think about it too much then, but she really does.
00:34:42.320 --> 00:34:43.199
Right, I'm gonna say it again.
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:44.960
Winona Ryder is a big name.
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.119
She had loads of hits in the 90s.
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:53.920
This is only 2009, so this is not like I know she had a quiet period before she came back in things like Stranger Things.
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:59.039
But she still was I don't know, she's a big name, and yet she's had two scenes and hardly said anything.
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.360
She's just trekky, she just wants to be in it.
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:05.760
I felt I just wanted more to I wanted to see more of Winona.
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.880
But that's because I'm a 90s fan of hers.
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:17.039
So Spock's hurting, Vulcan's being destroyed, six billion dead, and Spock estimates only 10,000 have survived.
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:18.480
It's genocide.
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:24.000
Spock leaves the area he's in and gets into a lift, and Ahura follows them.
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:24.400
Yeah.
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:27.599
And this is where you find out Ahura and Spock are in a relationship.
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:30.079
So is that how it is later, like years and years later?
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:30.639
No.
00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:32.079
I need to tell you this now.
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:32.639
Do you?
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:33.760
Yes, I do.
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:34.719
Right.
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:40.559
Back in the day, there was a scene where Spock and Ahura kiss.
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:44.000
William Shatner kicked off because he said, I'm the star of the show.
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:45.280
She should be kissing me.
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:46.320
For God's sake.
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.280
So this was a little homage to what you're saying.
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:50.400
The original intention.
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:51.840
Yeah, the original intention.
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:57.679
But it works as well because like he shows emotion as he's hurting and as she's kissing him.
00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:59.599
So he's quite sweet.
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:03.280
Also at this point, Captain Pike has been silent, so it's assumed he's been kidnapped.
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:03.599
Yeah.
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:06.159
I'm just gonna bring in some plot that you missed.
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:07.360
No, I'm about to.
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:12.239
The Romulus torture Pike for codes so they can attack Earth.
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:18.480
Nero talks about the future and how the Federation did nothing to help us plan it, and Spock pretended them.
00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:20.559
He wants revenge on Starfleet.
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:25.920
Pike says Romulus is out there and says Nero says, No, it happened, it's seen it happen.
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:27.599
I watched it happen.
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:32.320
Back on the Enterprise, Spock and Kirk argue over what to do.
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:39.280
They figure out Nero could be from the future, and Spock wants to gather with the fleet, and Kirk wants to follow the massive ship.
00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:45.440
Spock orders security to remove Kirk from the bridge because he won't listen to what Spock's saying.
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:49.920
Kirk's the first officer at this point, Spock's the captain, Kirk's second in command.
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:55.039
So Spock should be listening to Kirk, but he's emotionally compromised because of what's happened.
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:56.800
He's seen his mother just die in front of him.
00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:57.440
Yeah.
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:02.239
So Kirk fights the security guard and goes to go at Spock.
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:06.320
Spock gives him a Vulcan neck pinch, which makes him fall asleep.
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:06.960
Right, okay.
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:08.480
You've got to have heard of a Vulcan neck pinch.
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:09.599
No, I've never ever heard of that.
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:09.920
No.
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:15.199
At this point, I I kind of like the scene for what because again, I'm just learning these people.
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:23.039
And it really did show that Kirk, this big row, Kirk is full of passion, emotion, arguing, the merits.
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:23.599
He's raw.
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:33.039
He's raw, and Spock is, even though he's emotionally compromised, he is logical, clinical, dispassionate, facts and figures, he's you know, all that.
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.320
Vulcans switch off emotions.
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:36.880
Yeah.
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:42.320
You know, they learn how to switch emotions off, but Spock is half human, so he has more emotions.
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:46.960
But he's clear compared to Kirk, he's like, yeah, he's not that emotional.
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:56.960
And we also missed when Ahura is having a little snog with Spock, she has short black nails, and that is my uniform.
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.880
So Zoe Zel Zeldana plays Ahura.
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:08.719
But when you see women with long nails, with nails, when you see women's nails in TV, often they are long.
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:13.119
Or if they're not long, it's because I don't know, they've not got any nail varnish on or anything.
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.760
But when people have nail varnish, often it's on long nails.
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:21.519
And I absolutely love seeing a short nailed black nail varnished woman because that is my bag.
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:22.320
I have that all the time.
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:24.960
But also, she works at a computer, so you can't.
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I mean, I know, but I'm just saying it's the short black.
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Do you know what I mean?
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It's just like, oh, I feel seen, I feel represented.
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I just enjoyed it.
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You never see it normally.
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:34.639
So Spock says, get cake off the ship.
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So they fire him off.
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What a buzzer badge is an emergency capsule and he lands on a snow planet.
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:44.000
I mean, it's like the fortress of solitude.
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That's all I'm saying.
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I thought you were going to say that.
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Or from Hoth from The Empire Strikes Back.
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:52.000
It's just a snowy landscape, or it's like, you know, elf.
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:52.480
Yeah.
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But it's a no wolf.
00:38:54.159 --> 00:39:03.440
So Kirk wakes up in the escape pod and he climbs out and he has a look around, and then suddenly he's chased by a fairy beast.
00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:04.000
Yeah.
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:14.800
So he starts to run, and as he's running, the fairy beast nearly catches him, and then another beast, a red one, it's got like no fair ones, just like it's like a weird dragon-y thing.
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:16.320
It's it is strange design.
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:17.280
It's horrible, yeah.
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:17.920
Yeah.
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.199
That eats the other beast and then chases him.
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:25.519
He gets to the edge of like I was going to say a cliff, but it's not a cliff.
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.039
It's like a slope.
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:35.280
And he falls down a slope, and as he falls down a slope, the beast roars at the top, loses its foot, and then falls down after him.
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:37.199
So he runs into a cave.
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:39.519
The beast, it's like a tongue, isn't it?
00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:40.320
Grabs onto his leg.
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.320
It looks like the day of the triffid, you know, the flowers that came alive with the rule.
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:53.360
So so it grabs onto his leg, and then all of a sudden, a figure appears with a with a bit of a flame and waves away the beast.
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:57.679
And then he turns round, it's older Spock, it's Leonard Nemoy.
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:08.159
Now, I was excited to see Leonard Nemoy pop up because even though this means nothing to me really, I recognise that he's like the guy from the original, right?
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:12.400
And I love it when you I just like the meta nature of that.
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:17.039
I love it when you have an older version of a younger character when they meet.
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:19.599
I love that narrative in the story, I think it's brilliant.
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.159
It can be very emotional, it's very powerful.
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:24.880
But I just thought, oh, good stuff, nice.
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:26.079
I like that he got involved.
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:26.400
Good.
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:31.679
Well, they couldn't they couldn't have William Shatman because he got killed off in one of the Star Trek previous Star Trek movies.
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:32.079
Okay.
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:41.920
I wondered why Shatner hadn't come back if it was like well he he died, it was in when Patrick Stewart's Star Trek became on big screen.
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.239
Okay, that doesn't tell me anything.
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:48.079
So Spock turns around and he says, James T.
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Kirk.
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And he looks and he goes, Kirk says, What?
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:52.880
Who are you?
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:53.599
How do you know who you are?
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:54.960
He says, I am Spock.
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And Kirk's like, bullshit.
00:40:57.440 --> 00:41:03.119
So right, so I was I I did take a little while to work out this was older Spock and not like uncle or dad or whatever.
00:41:03.679 --> 00:41:06.000
So this is Spock, but it's from the future.
00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:06.320
Yeah.
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:09.679
So Kirk is what so I'm just trying to work out what I was watching.
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:12.079
Kirk is young Kirk looking at old Spock.
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:14.079
So this is the guy he has been rowing with.
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:17.519
This is the guy he doesn't get on with on the pl on the spaceship ship.
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:18.079
Okay.
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.760
But older Spock is best friends with Kirk.
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:23.920
They are best friends in the alternate.
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:27.760
You mean in like the shelter and then the alternate timeline.
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:29.760
Spock and Kirk are best friends.
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:30.079
Okay.
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.280
And he says we're better we're good friends, and Kirk's like, no, you hated me, you threw me off the ship.
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:35.760
Yeah.
00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:41.679
And then you go, old Spock says, I'm emotion emotionally compromised.
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:44.800
You know, I'm doing things and stuff like that.
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:50.239
My other question at this point, because I was calling Leonard Nimoy Old Spock when I was making notes.
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:51.599
You can call him old Spock, yeah.
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.079
Which is fine because now I definitely know he is.
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.960
But also, why is he called was it Spock Prime in IMDB?
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.079
So if you call it Spock Prime, that's the original Spock.
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:02.400
Okay.
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:05.440
So the Prime timeline, and then there's the Kelvin timeline.
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:07.039
Because this spins off.
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:08.000
Okay, that's fine.
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:09.920
I didn't understand that, but now that's fine.
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:11.119
Don't need to worry about it.
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:17.519
So Spock says to Kirk, something happened in the future.
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:18.480
I'll show you.
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And he mind melts.
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:20.960
Have you heard of a mind melt before?
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:21.440
No.
00:42:21.920 --> 00:42:28.559
Basically, the Vulcan can put his hand on your face in the same thing, and you can see what's in the Vulcan's mind.
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:46.400
And he shows him that Romulus, which is the Romulans home world, was about to be hit by a supernova because a star had blown up, and he was gonna travel there in the fastest ship possible, launch a black hole in space with the red matter and stop it, but it was too late.
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:48.559
Nero blamed him.
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:52.320
As they were chasing each other, they both fell into the black hole.
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:57.199
Nero fell into it first, so he came out at a different time, and he came out later.
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:01.840
He basically captured me and made me watch my home planet get destroyed.
00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:02.480
Right.
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:07.039
They decide to go to the Starfleet base that's nearby.
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:07.679
Okay.
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:14.000
And as they open it, we had a weird little alien who's got like sticks his eyes.
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:14.559
Yeah.
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:18.320
And he runs off and we meet Scotty.
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:19.039
Yeah.
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:20.320
Simon Pegg.
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:20.800
Yeah.
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:21.840
Hot Fuzz.
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:23.519
I love Hot Fuzz.
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.079
And I love Simon Peggy in Hot Fuzz.
00:43:26.239 --> 00:43:26.400
Yeah.
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:28.480
Struggled with him in this.
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.760
For me, I think he's the only weak point of the movie.
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:33.280
Why do you think he's weak?
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:38.159
Because James Duhan, who played Scotty.
00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:38.480
Okay.
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:44.960
And he had this better Scottish accent, is not like how the original Scotty was to me.
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:47.119
So I know nothing of the original Scotty.
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:50.079
He's the engineer of the Starship Enterprise.
00:43:50.320 --> 00:43:50.559
Okay.
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:52.000
So I know nothing of the original.
00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:52.960
But Simon Pegg.
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:57.440
So uh well I couldn't work out why did they not just hire a Scottish actor?
00:43:57.679 --> 00:43:57.760
Yeah.
00:43:58.159 --> 00:43:58.559
First issue.
00:43:58.719 --> 00:43:59.760
Why are we having Simon Pegg?
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:02.639
do a Scottish accent, which was fine.
00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:04.320
His accent was fine.
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:06.320
But it was like, is he the comedy?
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:07.840
Is he supposed to be comedic?
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:09.039
Is Scotty comedic?
00:44:09.440 --> 00:44:10.000
He's a comedic.
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:15.360
So that maybe is why they picked Simon Peck because at the time he was riding high on popular comedies.
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:15.760
I don't know.
00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.840
In the third so the Kelvin trilogy, they had three of them.
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:21.199
He wrote the third one as well.
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:23.280
I think he was heavily involved in writing.
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:23.920
Okay.
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:26.719
I just I couldn't work out his casting basically.
00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:30.480
I was I was thinking there's got to be better people who were Scottish as well.
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:36.079
Or just it felt like an odd choice and I just found Scotty the character annoying but anyway.
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:46.159
So Scotty had been put there because he decided to show that he could beam something further away than it ever had been done before.
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:52.559
He beamed Admiral Archer's favourite beagle and it was never seen again.
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:58.719
Admiral Archer is a throwback to another Star Trek series I don't know any of this happy to leave that on me there.
00:44:58.880 --> 00:44:59.760
He's called Enterprise.
00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:00.159
Okay.
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:06.000
Oldest Boch recognises Scotty and he's like this is too coincidental.
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:26.320
So he says to Kirk my younger self is emotionally compromised you need to be captain of the ship and you need to show that I'm emotionally compromised and he says how he says well I've got the formula for trans warp beaming and he said we can't use it because you know it's from the future Scotty did it.
00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:30.960
Scotty did the formula so he's just giving it to him earlier then he should have come up with it.
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:31.360
Okay.
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.639
So they beam back onto the ship and Scotty ends up in a water system.
00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:37.039
Yeah.
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:49.360
It's a bit convoluted this yeah it should have been this I think this is where this bit sort of wonka yeah it's the Budweiser factory I think that's that's where this was filmed anyway no idea.
00:45:49.599 --> 00:46:06.480
So they get back onto the ship and alarms go off because you know Kirk has got Scotty out of the water by letting her vent open so the security come and arrest them bring them back onto the bridge and Spock's like how did you get back onto this ship?
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:13.280
And he goes I bet that's frustrating to you they start arguing Spock shows he's emotionally compromised.
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:31.519
He beats Kirk and then decides to step down and then Bone says we're going to get to be the captain now and that's when I can't remember who is says he made him oh no it's Sulu goes he made him first officer so Kirk's now captain.
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:38.480
Kirk decides to follow the big ship not do what Spock wants to do and move in the fleet follow the big ship.
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:39.039
Okay.
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:42.559
And this is where we get second sexy shot of the Enterprise.
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:43.760
Why is it sexy?
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:49.519
You've said this twice now why is it because the Enterprise is a sexy ship okay you mean that you like it.
00:46:49.679 --> 00:47:03.840
It's boss yeah okay that's fine I'm trying to work out an odd adjective they warp into one of the rings on Saturn and then it comes up out of the smoke and you see it and it just looks great.
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:04.880
It's such a good shot.
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:17.039
I found it less sexy than you that's all I'll say wait till you watch it a second time they see that the ship the huge Romulan ship's about to attack Earth and they decide to come up with a plan.
00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:26.159
They're gonna beam on board the Romulan ship and try and rescue Captain Pike spot comes back and he's he's up for it.
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:47.760
He's supporting Chekhov isn't he support Kirk I've written Chekhov is he helping him do something well he helps Kirk so they both beam on board Chekhov says if the ship's logic is sound I'm beaming you into a cargo where there'll be nobody and he beaming them in the middle of a load of people so they end up having a bit of a fight.
00:47:48.000 --> 00:48:13.840
Anyway to beat everybody and then they find older Spock Spock Prime we've missed the fact we have just missed sorry to interrupt that Spock and Ahara have a kiss and she in a very breathy sexy way goes I've been monitoring your frequency and he reveals her first name yeah and they read that I think Kirk looks and he goes so that's the first name he goes I don't want to talk about it.
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:19.360
Yeah but it shows there's a little bit of chemistry between Spock and Kirk at that point.
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:19.760
Okay.
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:20.480
Right?
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:58.559
So they go they find older Spock Prime's ship and they get on the ship and he goes I don't know how to fly this Spock you know and Kirk goes you'll be alright and as he get on a computer voice goes welcome back Ambassador Spock and then Spock looks goes something tells me I've already been on this and then he he gets off flies off and then Kirk tries to locate Pike so as he's flying off the Romulans start to fire at him and he decides he's gonna come back and fly the ship back into the massive Romulan ship because he's got the red matter on and it will destroy the ship in the middle of a black hole.
00:48:58.880 --> 00:48:59.119
Okay.
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:23.199
Kirk finds Pike and they all get beamed back onto the Enterprise after Spock has just smashed the ship into the large ship so the black hole's happening so Kirk says we need to show compassion let's let's offer help to Nero so they open up the view screen and says do you want help and Nero starts having a go at them and then Spock he'd rather die in agony.
00:49:23.360 --> 00:50:45.039
Yeah he'd rather die in agony and Spock's like I don't think we should show compassion so they start fighting they start launching torpedoes at them and stuff and the big ship it's gone it's blown up but the Enterprise is caught in the wake of the black hole well I've put a pale blue ball the black hole okay right they can't they can't get away from its gravitational pull Scotty comes up with an idea and an engineer and eject the warp core and detonate it and it'll create a blast so big it'll push the enterprise away they do it boom the enterprises stop laughing this is serious stuff sound effects well it could be singing it could be doing Arnie's voice or something they get away they get away they've accomplished it next scene young Spock meets older Spock yeah I am not our father I am not our father because he thought it was his dad yeah yeah yeah and they have a nice little conversation and what's good you know what Zachary Quinto looks a lot like a young Leonard Nemoy thing they've this I mean I think of the ears help really well no the face shape and this cast really really well I like the scenes where it's the older and younger stuff I have you know the blowing up the planets and all that well doesn't really do it for me but the kind of actual interpersonal relationships that the friendship building.
00:50:45.280 --> 00:51:17.119
So younger Spock at this point is saying he he wants he's got to quit Starfleet because Vulcan races in bad way because there's so many of them left they need to find a new planet and older Spock says lucky for you you can be in two places at once ah yeah I miss that yeah okay and he and he says to the younger Spock he said look my usual saying would seem very very self-serving so I just wish you good luck because there's usual sayings live long and prosper.
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:17.280
Right.
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.159
So you can't say live prong long and prosper to his younger self.
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:34.320
Because that's about him okay yeah Kirk gets rewarded for his original thinking in the Kobayashimiru and saving the planet it's a bit like the end of Star Wars where it's the GCSE medal ceremony presentation evening love it.
00:51:34.480 --> 00:52:04.400
They go back on the ship he's given his own ship he's given the Enterprise back on board they set for warp to boldly go where no one has gone before so Nikki what are your thoughts right clearly you are going through your little boy phase where you get very giddy excited I've had adult movies it's now time for some this is back to childhood.
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:25.199
Look none of this does anything for me as you know I am before I go specifics about this film I've realised I have so little curiosity about space I'm not interested in space right so the minute you set a story there I'm like you know I have no idea what I'd have been like in 1969.
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:48.480
So everyone everyone be watching the space thing going to the moon going to the moon everyone have been full of that and I understand for some people and particularly I guess for like you know Neil Armstrong and gang it would be the most amazing thing ever and I just don't think I'd have cared and that's so I'm aware that I was I just feel like that's where I'm coming from.
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:52.880
However they make films up there you make me watch them we have to talk about them.
00:52:53.280 --> 00:53:08.880
I had to watch a German subtitled film last time I don't care but you're making me watch films I wouldn't watch a nasty idea but I like to think that the things I'm making you watch have you you can access them more easily than I can access this stuff.
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:10.800
However, let's talk about it.
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:17.280
So the second it finished I kind of I didn't have a clue what was going on a lot of the time but by the end I'd got the gist.
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:31.840
I got enough of a gist to have a thought but I did think at the end if anyone asked if anyone asked me what that story was about because as you know I'm an ex-teacher you have to think about how you explain things to other people in simpler versions.
00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:33.840
Would I be able to explain the plot?
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:42.239
And so here's the here's the plot I wrote and I I wasn't trying to be brief this is exactly all the stuff I could c say with clarity.
00:53:42.400 --> 00:54:16.239
There's a cocky cadet and an anal Vulcan right yep they clash they both have daddy issues they're in space Romulans are baddies they're blowing up planets Vulcan blows up there's a kidnapping of a captain Spock has to learn to chill out Kirk has to learn to be responsible and they all live happily ever after pretty much so it's a very simple you could have just saved me an hour but that is the simplistic like basic level but I couldn't have given you a lot more detail because I didn't have you know the technol the technological language the the sort of the nerdier aspect to it just were lost on me.
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:22.800
So I'm very pleased that this is your film but I was very pleased that you were going to be leading the overview because I wouldn't have been able to go more than that.
00:54:23.039 --> 00:54:37.280
So what I've done I've done a cons and a pros list again which I did for Roadhouse I think didn't I yeah I think so because I do think sometimes it's not like I hate the film but it's also like I don't love the film so I feel like I'm always a bit on the fence.
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:38.559
So I'm gonna tell you the cons.
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:43.519
So first off space fine we've talked about this black stuff and I've got no curiosity about any of it.
00:54:43.679 --> 00:55:07.760
And it also feeds in and this is a con you know like it's I think it still goes on doesn't it but a few years ago there's a real kind of tech bro obsession with going into space Elon Musk, Bezos all those like and I kind of think grow up is what I think grow it's the final frontier Nicolas yeah it grow up is what I think and I think a little bit like that.
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:15.039
I think about sometimes if people are obsessed with space films I feel like I want to tell them to grow up so I'm just whispering that because that's rude.
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:25.280
Okay a real big con for me which we you didn't mention and it was utterly repulsive was when sp when Pike is getting tortured and he put a slug in his mouth.
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:33.199
Yeah literally can't even begin to think about that so I'm gonna move on but it was just that's an Easter egg oh yeah well I don't know if I have to think about that ever again.
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:41.119
Yeah Scotty I found him really irritating and I think I find Simon Pegg a little bit irritating in more recent years.
00:55:41.360 --> 00:56:41.039
Loved him when he was doing his comedy stuff in the UK I think sometimes so maybe it's your dislike of Simon Pegg rather than I don't know I don't know I kept thinking they should have just hired a Scottish actor I agree I agree with it wasn't like he did a bad I mean he's he's doing a comedic Scottish voice but he still you know didn't have a problem really with that it's actual acting sometimes I think I've got a bit of a problem when someone you found funny in this country goes to be funny in America and then their comedy changes James Corden did this as well I found him very funny Gavin and Stacey and all the smithy stuff and then when he went to do stuff in America understandably because it's different people different well yeah I guess it was big books let's face it but it's a different style of humour particularly for that what that role was when he did this the late night stuff and then I personally don't find him as funny as I did when he was more specific here and I wonder if I've got that going on with Simon Pegg.
00:56:41.199 --> 00:56:44.159
Maybe because I've not seen him do stuff in this country for a long time.
00:56:44.320 --> 00:57:03.679
Yeah I I just think he for me he's the weak link of the characters because I think he casted this perfectly right you know Chris Pine really good young Kirk okay for what Kirk was like when William Shatner was long Zachary Quinto is just the perfect Spock.
00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:12.559
Zoe Salander she Saldana is very very good Ahura and Sulu in check I think they were just perfect.
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I liked Sulu as a character I don't know anything about the original Sulu in Star Trek three he has her husband oh lovely oh so like lovely George but George kicked off because he said Sulu's not gay even though George is so he was annoyed so um and I'm assuming this is still the con list the last thing I'm assuming there's lots of CGI um which doesn't do anything for me I'd much rather it when they make little models moving across a black curve yeah yeah whatever pros okay it finished I liked the inclusion of Leonard Nimoy both in terms of the plot line being older spot and also just the original guy it worked though it worked loved it felt like I was felt an emotional kick for that yeah when I when I watched this on the cinema I knew it was in it right I knew it was in it but when I was watching like when I watch a film especially for the first time it's something I'm excited to see I switch off and just zone in on it and I forget that I've read plot points I forget this my mind just goes blank and such a surprise when he turned up on screen even though I knew he was in it was like oh forgot yeah again I've said already the trope of the older per version of the person sometimes the younger version I find that always very emotional because it's like the wiser experienced I've been through shit let me give you some guidance is so sweet.
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I like how the nerd gets the romance story not the cocky cadet I like that you mean it wasn't a romance story with the green girl I don't I think he was using her for what she could do for him now you told me that she was using him as well because how many is it now or something like that so yeah I don't worry for I don't think we need to worry about her convers her person character whatever because we never mention her again.
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The bits like I said the friendships the interactions how the different characters relate to each other that's the hook and I by the end of it I realised oh they've set this up so we can now see this is how this band of people got together which I hadn't appreciated because I didn't really know what I was watching.
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Yeah that that hooked me in loads more than planets blowing up or whatever.
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Now I'm gonna make assumptions now but you can tell me I you can tell me if we've got this at the very end it this the sort of final the space the final frontier voice over kicks in.
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Is that the voiceover that we've historically existed yeah I think it's changed slightly it sounded like it was from an old thing.
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Right yeah so so it was you know in the original film Space the Final Frontier these are the continuing voyages and Starship Enterprise is that a classic yeah and it used to say where no man has gone before it's been changed to where no one has gone before good like the gender inclusivity but that the what I was going to say was the way it ended with that voiceover and I very much assumed that that is like the opening of the TV series love it.
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Yeah and then love that link then it's the old music at the end that is also one of my pros the fact that that music and I I've no never really watched this don't we know what's going on that was still such oh I've heard that before which surprised me I think again like I say they've repeated them on the channel four early morning or something when I was a kid I liked how the kind of the end of this leads into the beginning of the other thing.
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Like how I told you about the post yes the uh the Washington Globe thing leads into all the presence men love that I assume this is a I'll put it as a pro but it's more just a comment I assume if you were really into Star Trek as a kid or you've devoured the old series then this must have been great to see.
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Yeah it's a glossy big budget shebang of a film that is telling a story that I guess is implied through various previous bits but you're seeing the whole thing put together I can see how that would be a really cool thing so I reck I can recognise that do you want to know what one of my cons go on too many bloody lens flares I don't know what that means lens flares where you see like beams of light the way the light camera captures it just everywhere when it's on on the bridge of the Enterprise he just went over the top the director with it the cinematography it just ruins some of the shots sometimes you don't need that much in there.
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See none of that registered I didn't I didn't hate this at all I always say that when I've when you've made me watch a film that I didn't sort of couldn't stand I always go I didn't hate it and that feels like the most I can say but oh I just can't get beyond the spacing and the sci the sci-fi stuff isn't my bag but I can see how it would be loads of fun if you were a trekkie or even a not even a trekkie but a person who who likes a bit of sci-fi it's loads of fun I don't feel the need to watch any other versions or go back or watch I don't need to watch it ever again but like yeah it was good.
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It felt like a modern take and I like an origin story a modern take of a origin story of how the crew got together.
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Yeah it all worked it it's in an alternate universe remember because I don't care I don't care well it's like basically with Back to the Future something happens and it takes creates an alternate timeline the very opening scene of this film where Nero's ship comes back in time created the alternate timeline.
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So is this again using Back to the future law because we that's how I understand does this mean that in this alternate timeline now that exists there's going to be a photograph or in the future that is fading because they've changed well basically when when Nero's ship came through and attacked the Kelvin yeah anything we've seen in Star Trek after that point already hasn't happened because this is alternate alternative to what actually happened kind of like the easiest way back to the future terms when he goes back to the future in back to the future too and Biff's got all this gamble and stuff it's an alternate and it's an alternate future that's what's happened with this version of Star Trek the Kelvin timeline.
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I'm concerned that we've overthought it is there anything else to say before we bring in other people bring in other people.
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Okay so it's boss this this is a review I think it's from 2012 and it's by a site called the dejareviewer.com that was quite good the thing that surprised and delighted me the most was the fact that the film focused so much on Spock.
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At least as much time is devoted to Spock as Kirk.
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To me Spock has always been the most interesting character he's a child of two worlds and he's also an outcast in both of those worlds.
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He's constantly on guard against his human instincts whilst also trying to purge himself of emotion.
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Even though his intellect is superior to most of his superiors and he's perfectly capable of taking command he still defers to them and chooses to live in the shadow of lesser men.
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I think it's because he recognises his own weaknesses.
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He hasn't been able to harmonise logic and emotion the way Kirk has he sometimes lacks a human touch that is so often needed to make it through crises thank you for your input that's a good review that's a good review because like Spock you know it's meant the Vulcans look at it as if you're better for not having emotion.
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Right but at times you do need to have emotions to help work things out.
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You know it's just no good just ignoring everything.
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What I was interested in that was so in other things is it Kirk who's like the main character and Spock is like an add-on is that how the rest of it is Kirk gets the most screen time because he is he was always the star of the show.
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Do not get me wrong Spock is always a big part in it.
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I care more about Spock than Kirk.
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I found Kirk annoying I but I assumed we were meant to be supposed to be that's what I mean I don't think it's a like a flaw in the writing.
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But by the end he's not as annoying because he's looking after the crew.
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Yeah okay saves the planet okay so Anthony Pascal in Trekmovie.com this is from 2009.
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So that I know Trekmovie.com do you know it yeah because because when this film was getting made I used to go on trekmovie.com to get little tidbits about what apparently they shot this apparently this you said you weren't in the fandom but what uh it made me laugh this did and it's a lot longer that he used to written a whole review but that he builds up the fact that everything looked like it was gonna be shit and then he just comes out with what he thinks so I'm gonna read it.
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It was only a few years ago that the Star Trek franchise was on life support and things were not looking good for the future.
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The last two films were disappointments with the two thousand and two outing of Nemesis being the first actual bomb of the ten film series going back to nineteen The last two TV series, Voyager and Enterprise, were mixed bags, with neither show truly living up to its full potential, culminating in the cancellation of the latter show in 2005.
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On top of that, licensees were dropping out and things were bleak.
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So I was as shocked as everyone else when in 2006 it was announced that Paramount was going with the full tempole treatment for Trek, and they were assigning it to their new A-team of JJ Abrams, Dan Damon Lindelhoff, Brian Burke, Robert Orchy or Orsey, and Alex Kurtzman.
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I know all those names.
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Congratulations.
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It was a bold and risky move, and I hoped that the change in team will give Trek a much needed kick in the pants while still keeping true to the spirit of the 40-plus year saga that I loved so much.
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Next paragraph first line.
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And after seeing the finished product, in short, that is exactly what they've done.
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Star Trek is amazing.
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One of the things like I find quite funny now is like in some of the later series of Star Trek that have just come out and stuff.
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You know, you got all these people, Star Trek's gone woke.
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Can I just say Star Trek's always been woke?
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Star Trek had the first black person on screen who was a main character.
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You know, Ahura was a main character.
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You had the first interracial kiss on TV.
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You know, Star Trek is woke as fuck forever.
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Good for them.
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Okay, we've got some a website called Hypnagoria.
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Don't know that one.
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No, okay.
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And this is, I'm just trying to see, I don't have a date, but all these links will be in the show notes, so you can click them yourselves.
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Although Abrams has admitted to not previously being a Star Trek fan, he's clearly been doing his homework.
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Firstly, he's identified that what made original Trek more beloved than a host of other sci-fi series was the well-defined characters of the crew and how they interact, and he has placed this at the heart of the film.
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Now there's a ton of great action sequences, but the plot's real drive comes from the characters' emotional journeys rather than the effects storyboards, an overblown firework of a toyad, this is not.
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So I think like if you go back to like original, I'm talking films now, I'm not talking TV series.
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I think you'd be shocked at how little action there is in Star Trek.
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Right.
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And it is all character-driven.
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Okay.
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It's more characters and stuff.
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I think you would you particularly like Star Trek The Voyage Home, where they do go back in time to like 1986, I think, and they've got to save a couple of humpback whales to take to the future because there's an entity that's coming and it wants to speak to humpback whales, but all the humpback whales are being killed off.
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But it's funny seeing the future people act with interact with the people of the past, but but at the time it was 1986, and that that's that's a fun movie, that one.
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Okay.
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Okay, well, who know, maybe one day we'll give that a look.
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I'll get that on the podcast.
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I've got a final quote, and I'm just reading it through, and I don't entirely know why I selected it, because it doesn't feel like it flows, but I'll read it anyway, and if you can edit out, if it's rubbish, I'll read it anyway.
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It's by the State Journal Register, and it's just describing the character of Kirk, which is interesting because I couldn't get my handle on it.
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Maybe that's why I quoted it.
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The Kirk of J.J.
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Abrams retools track was raised by a widowed mother and questionable stepfather after losing his father in battle.
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Pines Kirk is Shatner's on Rebel and Vodka, rebellious and sarcastic, vaguely felonious, tragically hip, soaked in irony, and maybe a bit of ADD.
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He leaps, then maybe looks.
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And yet the new Kirk, however bratpacky, remains the vessel of American exceptionalism.
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The regular kid from the Midwest who manages to be, in the eyes of his mentor, Captain Christopher Pike, meant for something better, something special.
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I think I pulled that quote because I struggled with Kirk a bit.
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I just thought he was a bit of a.
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Well, it is actually said that you're you're meant for bigger things.
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He's the only genius of his level to have not done something.
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Pike says that to Kirk in the bar scene.
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You know, and that's why he goes, I challenge you, I dare you to do better because he knew he was better than what he was.
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Kirk is the ultimate captain of the ship.
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That's all I can say if you watch all the other films.
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I know, I think I just prefer Spock.
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I found him more engaging, correct?
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Yeah, well, the interaction between Kirk and Spock is always there.
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Yeah.
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You know, and like Spock can be like the comedy at times, you know.
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The very final scene, you know, Spock shows no emotions.
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The very final scene of the last film of the originals, you know, they they get told to head back to Space Dock to be decommissioned.
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Um, Spock has the line of something like, if I were human, it would be to hell with orders if I were human.
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So they use them in certain ways.
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It's quite cool.
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It's called Nemo Nemoy's an absolute legend.
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Is it not Nimoy?
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You're Nemoy.
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Well, I don't know.
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I'm not a I mispronounce names all the time.
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You do?
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So sometimes I think, oh, I'm like maybe you wouldn't know more than me.
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To end this podcast on, just listen now for Shatner's albums and and Nemoy's albums as well.
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Oh I don't know.
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Yeah, the I know Shatner's album.
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Tragically bad the good.
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Next week it's your turn to choose the film, and it's the end of series three.
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Series three, we hardly knew you.
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What?
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Well, you know what?
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Speeding along, innit?
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Have we even got to series three?
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It's just it amazes me.
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Because we just keep going.
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So what are we watching?
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Right.
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This is an I it's set in space.
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It's not, it's set in Scotland.
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That's like the same thing.
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This is another of my comfort watches.
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Well Scott will be after you now after slanging off Simon Pegg.
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No, I just think they should have hired a Scottish actor, and I think Scottish people would agree.
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This is another of my comfort watches, and it's caught on the heels of Baby Boom, which isn't the same type of film at all, but there is a comforting element to it.
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We're going to Scotland, it's small town, community, eccentric, people, loveliness, whatever.
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I don't know.
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I'm not going to over-describe it, I'll do that next week.
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It's local hero.
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I own this, but I've never watched it.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I can't remember if I bought this.
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You know when you get those bundles of films and you're like 10 films for like 15 quid or something.
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I think it might have been in something like that.
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And it's one of them.
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I know you've talked about it in the past.
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I know Dennis Lawson's in it.
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Is you and McGregor's uncle.
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Great, innit?
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And I've always wanted to watch it, never got round to it.
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Interesting.
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Yeah, I'll be interested in your take.
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It's whimsical and it's a bit daft and a bit eccentric.
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So yeah.
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I don't I don't know how you'll feel about it, but hey.
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Well, we'll see.
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It's no Star Trek.
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And if people want more, where can they find you?
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I'm at NikkiBond.com, or you can look for the Lisa McCaulay stories online.
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How about you?
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I can be found at Toffeys or Us on YouTube or TikTok, Phil Timon.
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Thanks for listening.
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Until the next time.
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Bye bye.
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Thanks, see you later.
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Live long and prosper.