Road House

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Hello and welcome to Light Camera Aggro, the podcast with two friends, one film and very little agreement.
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I'm Phil.
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And Nikki, I thought you'd be bigger.
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And I'm Nikki.
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Although opinions vary.
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This week it's Phil's turn to share a movie he loves, and today he's bought the 1989 film Roadhouse.
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It all helps.
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It's been nice.
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I went to see Liverpool women play Tottenham yesterday, first match, not of the season, but of the season when I've been.
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I know yours is Everton, mine's Liverpool women, but like completely obsessed with everything Everton and all that.
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I'm not that person because I was not encouraged to be as a child.
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Right.
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I just wasn't encouraged to be into football.
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So you wouldn't have a stone outside the stadium.
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No, I wouldn't.
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I'm so glad that you have.
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However, I've got into it in late years.
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It's marvellous.
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I love the women's game, and it's just lovely, fortuitously lovely how close to where I live they play.
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For women, they've been to a few places.
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They've been to a few uh few places, they've had a few home grounds over the last 10 years or so since I've been going.
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And it is really handy.
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So yeah, it was lovely.
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Nice afternoon yesterday.
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It was really hot yesterday, which yeah, it was a strange one.
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Yeah.
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I was wearing a jumper and I had considered taking a coat because it was like football.
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Jumpers for goalposts.
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Jumpers for goalposts.
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And I was just sweltering.
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Anyway, it was good.
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We played alright, we didn't lose.
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That's good.
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It was a draw, optimistic for the season.
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But all that is kind of not my vibe going on about what I feel about for the season.
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I just like it when I'm there.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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I'm not gonna read match reports, I'm not gonna kind of start planning fixtures, not planning my social life around the fixtures either.
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It's a community feel, it's a nice vibe, yeah.
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I do, I do enjoy it.
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So yeah, it was good, but that's yesterday.
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So now that I'm back in the swing of that, really.
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I'm not sure if I'm at the next one because I'm away in a few a couple of weeks, but you know, all good.
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How about you?
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So I'm currently in the midst of a five-day weekend off work, which is absolutely fantastic.
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I've watched a few films, caught up on a few TV series, and pretty much just relaxed.
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It's been quite nice.
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That's good.
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Not done much at all this weekend.
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It's just it's been that busy in work, like tremendously busy, that I needed this downtime.
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And this comes every few weeks now and stuff.
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So if you've had a five-day weekend, does that mean you're gonna have like a ten-day week?
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I mean for seven days solid.
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Okay, but it's not horrendous, I guess, if you then get five days every so often.
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Yeah, well I mean you could have you could have gone to like a European city.
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Do you know you could have had a mini break?
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Very, very true.
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You know, I do I do plan like to go up the late district every now and again, a few days away and stuff like that.
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But yeah, this one, this one was just watching football and relaxing.
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Recharging.
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Yeah.
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Before we start, remember this is going to be full of spoilers.
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If you haven't seen Roadhouse, now's the time to pause the pod and come back when you're done.
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We'll be waiting.
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So, Phil, why did you choose Roadhouse?
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Last series we did Dirty Dancing, one of your favourite Patrick Swayze films.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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One of my favourite films.
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Yeah, one of your favourite films of all time.
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This is an absolute guilty pleasure for me.
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One of my Patrick Swayze films.
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I appreciate it's probably a TV movie, but the fact that Patrick Swayze was in it elevated it to a cinema type movie.
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You know.
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Was it on the cinema?
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I don't know, I don't know anything about how this came about.
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Yeah, it was on the cinema.
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But it's like it's like a grown-up episode of the A-Team.
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Now the A-Team, I don't know, you probably never watched any of the episodes.
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No, they would always go into like a town, and somebody would run in the town, and they'd come in and they'd overthrow the person who's running, and then the town was a better place.
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Jack Reacher is what it is.
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That's pure Jack Reacher.
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But this had the same kind of cinematography as the A-Team, the same kind of feel, but it was just a bit more violent.
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Where the A-Team would get locked in a garage somewhere.
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It always happens in every single episode.
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They get locked in a garage, and there'd always be a weld and a JCB, and he'd end up making a cabbage launcher, and and no one would ever die.
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I remember one episode where somebody crashed a helicopter into a mountain, and then the next scene was them getting out the helicopter holding their hands.
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But this was very similar to that, but more violent.
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The 18 was always on like a Saturday afternoon when I was I never really watched it, but I was aware of it.
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And this this is a big film.
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I know you've not probably seen it, but it got remade recently.
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Well, that came up a bit when I was looking at it, which is a good a good film within itself.
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In my in my own opinion, kind of ruined by Conor McGregor because he's not an actor and he's way over the world.
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He's a UFC fighter.
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Oh, is he in it's a new thing?
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In the new one.
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Okay, then I don't need to worry about him.
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Okay.
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But this, this one, it's just a real guilty pleasure that I love.
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So what I would say is that makes more sense.
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Now you've explained that.
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Because I was thinking, what the hell?
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Do you think this is good?
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You know, that kind of thing.
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But I also think, as Nigella says, there should be no such thing as guilty pleasures, it's pleasures.
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So this is a pleasure for you.
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Yeah, I enjoyed the film.
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Just so we get that out there, so I can quote my queen.
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Just dropping that in there.
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But I had never had I ever heard of this, I don't think so.
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Maybe I'd heard of it, but I didn't have any clue what genre we were talking, what anything it was.
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I just didn't know.
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Yeah.
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So I had to Google it to even find that out.
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I noted before we I watched it, it's another 18, and you're ramming these 18s down my throat these days.
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Suddenly decided we're going full on an adult.
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So that made me laugh, just going, alright, another adult one.
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I would now after watching it, I would argue it's not necessarily an adult film.
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We'll talk about that at some point.
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Yeah, I've think this will probably be a 15.
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Either way, what I'm saying is it's it's not made like it's an adult film, even though there's adult things that you wouldn't allow a child maybe to see in those days.
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Anyway, you brought up dirty dancing.
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Yeah.
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So it is useful to remember that or to point out that I, as I said on the pod when we did that, I like many people, my generation of my uh sex and gender, and other people as well, I watched this religiously many times, over and over, from being a child, being 12, and I still watch it now, and it it was my sexual awakening, let's call it that.
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It was the right time, hormones were flying, Patrick Swayze was the most beautiful man in that film to me, and to a million other girls who watched it, you know, it's just how it was.
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It's a generational, obvious massive thing.
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I've seen Dirty Dancing, let's just say five million times.
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Might be an overstatement.
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Yeah, I told you a million times to stop exaggerating, Nicki.
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But with that in mind, it always surprises me when I watch other Patrick Swayze films because I very rarely do.
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I think I've seen Point Break twice.
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I love point break.
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Okay, but okay, let's not get sidetracked about point break, but I'm just pointing out I've seen that twice.
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I've seen Ghost once, I have seen Tu Wong Fu, Julie, Julie Newmar once.
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I've seen that once myself.
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Okay.
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Great.
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But my point is you could add all of the you know, less than the fingers on one hand, the other Patrick Swayze films I've seen however many times, and then like I say, five million nearly almost dirty dancing.
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So when I put this on, if this could be about anything, this could be the best film ever, this could be like high art Shakespeare, it's just Johnny Castle, it's Johnny Castle to me.
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And that's not because Patrick Swayze's not good, because I think he's brilliant, and I'm I all I just think he's brilliant, and I agree with you, he carries this film.
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Christ, if he was not in this, if it was if it was another actor who was just a sort of not famous anymore actor like a lot of the other people in this film, this would have just sunk.
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This would no one would even think about this.
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He carries this film and he's brilliant in it, but I am watching this and it's it's Johnny Castle, and that's a problem in some of the sometimes in this film for me.
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And we'll get to those.
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But it's also worth pointing out this is only made two years after Dirty Dancing.
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He looks the same, he's in the same body, he's got slightly longer hair, but that's it.
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Similar style clothes, even it's just similar personality.
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He's more violent, but that is that's it, literally it.
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So there's a lot of it was very disconcerting, even before you get into what this is about.
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Just seeing my Johnny Castle, my Johnny Castle having to twat people basically for his job.
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What?
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Yeah, it didn't sit well, and I struggled.
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And I understand he's an actor playing a different role.
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I understand that, but but the fact but it was some it was just it's so ingrained in me.
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Date dancing is part of my soul that it was so disconcerting all the way through.
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I mean, it is like it is very jolly castle era, I will give you that.
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Two years after Data Dancing came out, this came out.
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And he does look significantly different.
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The hairs they've got blonder hair in point break, so let's not yeah, well, he does look completely different in point break.
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Does he have a bit of rough beard, bit of stubble and stuff?
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So he does look different in in point break.
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I remember the last thing I remember seeing him in was Donnie Darko.
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Oh, he's in that, yeah.
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He's in that.
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That's that's a good film, but yeah, it I get I get your point on the whole Johnny Castle thing and the way it's.
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It's really hard to separate him in especially in this film because it's so.
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Well, just think of this as the sequel to Dirty Dancing when Johnny had to leave dancing and get another job.
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I will not think of this as the sequel to Dirty Dancing.
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There is a well, well, we're gonna talk about it, but there are bits in this film that I so read at.
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Yeah.
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We'll talk about them.
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I can imagine.
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Well, I don't think I think the things you think I don't like about it are not what I I don't think you get what I don't like about this, I don't think you've realised.
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Well, we haven't talked about it yet.
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We haven't, we'll get into it.
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Let's crack on.
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Right, it starts off at an upmarket club.
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You can tell it's the 80s just by the clothes, the cars, the vibe, the neon lights, everything, the setting.
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Yeah.
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There's an old guy who's walking through the club.
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Probably not that old, to be fair.
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He's probably about 30, but he hooks up his 80s.
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I reckon he's probably about 45, generally.
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His name's Frank.
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He's looking for somebody in the club.
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And as you're walking around, it's a really nice place, really nice atmosphere, live music, and then he spots him.
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We see Patrick for the first time.
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We see Johnny Castle.
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Dalton.
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Dalton, I don't know.
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Dalton.
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Dalton turns his back to the screen, and then he he turns round and looks, and you can just see it is Patrick Swayze.
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It is the look of Johnny Castle, but it's that 1980s.
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It's the slight, you know, it's the kind of mullety hair that's sort of it is the hair is longer.
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That's all I can say.
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The hair is longer, but his face, his sort of tense jaw, his look, everything is just how it's just 1980s, Patrick Swayze, as in Johnny Castle.
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Yeah.
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There's a little bit of trouble within the club.
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This guy pulls out a knife and he says to I've nearly said Johnny then.
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I know this is the problem I had.
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He says to Dalton, come on, let's let's go for it.
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And he goes, Right, let's do it outside.
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The bouncers go outside with Dalton.
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The guy then swings a knife at Dalton and he just turns round and walks back inside.
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He's cool, he's calm.
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Yes, he is.
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He's collected.
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He's in control as opposed to the people who are like wielding knives and stuff.
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He he's got it all sussed.
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He's been slashed a little bit, and then and then we see he's so cool he stitches himself up.
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Oh my god.
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Frank walks in, the old guy.
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We're gonna refer to him as old guy.
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Yeah, it's gonna refer to him as old guy because like for ages his name doesn't pop up properly.
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Okay, well, I'm just gonna f genuinely gonna find out how old he was.
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Oh no.
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He was 45 years old.
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He looks about 60.
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You've got to admit he looks like pretty much ten years younger than me.
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It's four years younger than sorry, ten yeah ten years, eight years younger than you.
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Yep.
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Um hang on, 45?
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No, it's not six.
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Six, okay.
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Oh yeah, sorry, six.
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It's four years younger than me.
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He looked about ten years older than I do now.
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Old guy, what are you like?
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I do I honestly is ageist though, but it just I agree in the 80s age was different.
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It's very, very different.
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People didn't dye the hair, didn't have the fillers, didn't have everything.
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I don't know.
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Well, I don't think uh fillers would he be getting fillers?
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No, but the hairstyle age of yeah, he's got white hair.
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Yeah, where now his hair would be radically different.
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And he's supposed to own this big club, and now no one owns anything.
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Yeah, it's so he walks in and he speaks to Dalton about a job, and he says he wants the best and you're the best.
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And Dalton goes, Wade Garrett's the best, you know, he's getting old.
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I miss that he got a reference, okay.
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Yeah, he gets a reference foreshadowing really early on.
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Yeah, okay, fair enough.
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The nightclub owner walks in to see if Dalton's okay and goes, Yep, he says that's it, I'm done.
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The whole offer that Frank gave Stalton feels too good to be true.
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It's he's throwing money at him and he's it just why?
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At this point, I'm like, why is this guy mate trying to get this uh Dalton to go?
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Dalton's a cooler.
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Yeah, I understand.
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I understand he's good at his job and this guy needs but like it's not like he owns the club down the road.
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He's gotta travel, he's gotta he's gotta leave, you know, he's gotta leave town.
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Because his reputation.
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Uh to me, I'm just thinking, what's wrong with the what what's this guy's dodge?
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What's wrong with this guy?
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We know what's wrong with the guy eventually.
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His town is a nightmare because of the the politics of the situation.
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But yeah, I think.
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We'll come to that a bit later on.
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Yeah, I just I I was sus at this point because it felt too good to be true.
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And he he he mutters the immortal line, Frank does, as he's leaving when he looks at Dart and goes, I thought you'd be bigger.
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Yeah, you keep saying that, like I'm supposed to have made the mentioned loads in this film.
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I don't know, I don't know why.
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Okay.
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I think Patrick Sways is actually quite small, wasn't he?
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I mean he's he's buffing this, but in terms of stature and stuff, he's not tall, is he?
00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:18.480
Well, compared to what's his name, Sam Elliott Wade later on.
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Yeah, he's like Sam Elliott.
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Do you have good actor?
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Okay.
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He goes outside the club, he's got this shitty old car, he drives to a multi-story car park, there's a guy outside.
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Do you think he lives rough, the guy outside?
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I think so.
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Yeah, and then and he throws his keys at the guy and he goes, What do you think?
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I'm a valet?
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He goes, No, keep it.
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And the guy's made up because he's got a car.
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Dalton walks in, pulls the covers off, a brand new Merch that he's been hidden away, and then drives to the new town.
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So I remember he gave the car away.
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I didn't get that that was a fancy car.
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I didn't get any, I don't know cars.
00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:56.399
No, the car he gave away wasn't a fancy car.
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No, the new car.
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It was an it was a new Merc.
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It was an 80s Merch.
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Okay.
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Maybe to you looked old.
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I don't pay attention to the cars.
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So I didn't know where yeah.
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So basically the whole idea is he doesn't need the money, he does it for the love of the job.
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Or something.
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Well, well, it's foreshadowing for something that happens later.
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So he drives to the new town and he drives through and he gets to the club.
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The club you see outside, there's a rough element to it.
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There's bikers, there's bikers, it's dirty, it's it's the worst nightmare.
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It's a place I would never go.
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He goes inside.
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And we know that you are a paragon of virtue and feels your nightlife.
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And my nightlife has to be squeaky clean.
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So he goes to inside the club, live music play him.
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The band, the blind lead singer.
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Have you seen that him before?
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No.
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He's in quite a few 80s movies that I've seen.
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I think he's actually in is he in Barbara with Pamela Anderson?
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Yeah, I think he's in that as well.
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But anyway, live music.
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There's bottles being thrown, you can hear bottles being smashed.
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Dalton's looking round, you can see that one of the waitresses is selling drugs, you can see that one of the bouncers is a bit too keen to fight.
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There's there's loads going on, and then we get some random blonde woman walk up, look at him at the bar, and then walks off.
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That's foreshadowing for later on.
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That was Denise.
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Denise.
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Denise Denise.
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I forgot that she gets her actual name in the film.
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As Dalton stood there, one of the other barmates comes over and starts speaking to him.
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Carrie.
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Carrie Ann.
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Carrie.
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Carrie Ann, yeah.
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Lovely, lovely, lovely lady.
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Yeah.
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From the Gilmore Girls.
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I don't know her.
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She plays Luke's sister, but that's not really.
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Do we have a reference of people from the Gilmore girls in all my films?
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Do you know what that's very interesting?
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Because I only watched the Gilmore Girls last year for the first time.
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It's been out for like since 2000 or whatever.
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And that and and it's none of the people in it were people I knew other than the grandparents for Kelly Bishop and Dirty Dancing.
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But all the people in it, I didn't know them from anything else.
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So I watch it now.
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I've what now when I see the films, I go, Oh, there's that person.
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I've not seen them in anything else except your films.
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Well, I've got good taste.
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Well, so Carrie Ann asks Dalton his name and he says Dalton.
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And you can see she's surprised.
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His name is legendary in the world.
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Yeah.
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He's got a reputation that precedes him.
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Yeah.
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So it starts talking round the bar that he's there.
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The blind singer finishes for the night, and Dalton approaches him, says, I thought you played pretty well for a blind white boy.
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And then he repeats the line.
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And I thought you'd be bigger.
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They obviously know each other from the circuit.
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Yeah.
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The friends.
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They are friends, yeah.
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And it was the first time we saw Patrick Swayze, also known as Dalton, but not Johnny.
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It's the first time we saw him kind of smile and relax.
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He's been on guard the whole time because we've only ever seen him at work up until this point in his various places.
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He's and when he is at work, like I said to you, he has that sort of tense jaw, that what he watches, he looks.
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It is Johnny Castle, but then is that just because it's the same actor who does the same jaw thing, or is it just when he plays these roles that are like I don't know, kind of brooding?
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He plays brooding very well.
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Yeah.
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So he broods, and then we just don't see him relaxed.
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And then when he sees the guy who's visually impaired, then it's like he smiles, he laughs, he's they hug, it's all it's like a different person.
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Exactly.
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It's nice to see.
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And this guy says to him, This is one of the worst hell holes he's ever been in.
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It's rough, everything.
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Word gets out around the bar and all the bouncers start talking saying, Hey, that's Dalton.
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People like, he doesn't look much, you know, everybody underestimates him.
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We see a guy sat there with his girlfriend, and there's two other guys, and they're Oggle and his girlfriend, and he offers, you can kiss her boobs for$20.
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I don't think he uses the word boobs.
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Well, I'm using the word boobs.
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Okay.
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Playground.
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Yeah.
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Well what what what what word does he use?
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Well, they say tits, don't they?
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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I can't remember now, actually, but anyway, it's the guy starts feeling this girl's boobs.
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He starts groping her.
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Yeah.
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He says, You're not gonna kiss him.
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He says, I can't.
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He goes, Why?
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He says, I haven't got$20.
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And the next thing a fight breaks out, all hell breaks loose in the bar.
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The old guy, Frank, who's now 45.
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It's so cool, isn't the old guy?
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He's a youth.
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I've broke down, old guy.
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The youth, Frank, invites Dalton to his office as all hell's breaking loose in the bar.
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So at this point, I'm watching this and I can't work out the vibe of this film.
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I can't tell if it's been played for laughs.
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Because the fight is comedic.
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It's like, well, comedia it's not funny to me, but it's sort of it's silly.
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It's not realistic.
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It feels like, you know, on a cartoon where it's a big hammer gets hit, and then you have a big throbbing sort of bump on the head and Tom and Jerry run off.
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It feels like that.
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It's almost slapstick, it's almost comical.
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There's a c a carry-on vibe to it.
00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:12.400
All of the some laughs within the fight, but I can't work out the tone of the film.
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I I that's my issue all the way through.
00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:18.960
And this scene was the bit where I was like, Am I supposed is this is it meant to be funny?
00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:20.640
I it I didn't know if it's meant to be funny.
00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:29.119
I didn't think Patrick Swayze was playing it for laughs, so that he was doing a serious film, but I couldn't work out what the people the writer wanted, what the director was aiming for.
00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:32.400
I just couldn't work it out, and I felt like that most of the time.
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But this is where I started to have those thoughts like, what am I supposed to be feeling?
00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:41.839
Yeah, I think I think the vibe of the fight is meant to be like reminiscent of the old westerns you used to see.
00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:42.880
Yeah, yeah, the whole western thing.
00:20:42.960 --> 00:20:45.920
I kind of think that's that's the vibe, yeah.
00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:48.480
Strode into town, sought out the bad guys.
00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:53.119
Yeah, I get that, but yeah, I just uh I wasn't sure, but you know, that's where I was at this point.
00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:59.680
The next day, Dalton goes to a car yard to buy an old banger of a car.
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It's dinted, it's brown, it's horrible.
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It's basically it's it's a piece of shit compared to his lovely, lovely make.
00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:08.880
Yeah, I wasn't really aware of it.
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I couldn't work out anything to do with the cars, what he was telling me, because I didn't know them.
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So once he's done that, he then heads to buy four new tyres.
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And this to me is like preempting someone.
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He starts he goes for a drive to somewhere where he's looking to rent and he meets Emmett.
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Yeah.
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The old farmer.
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He's probably about 38.
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Yeah, an old farmer, Emmett.
00:21:32.640 --> 00:21:34.880
He comes across as a really nice guy.
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He's so sweet.
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Yeah, it's out of town with a great view.
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He asks him why he wants to be there, you know, and he just says, I just like the place.
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And he goes, Can you afford it?
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It's a hundred dollars a month.
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Yeah, I know.
00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:47.440
I was like, What?
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Amazing.
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Um, but it's like it's it's it's an it's quite nice, it's idyllic.
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There's no telly, there's no yeah, yeah.
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I mean, I would need the wi fi.
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I'd need the wi fi, but apart from that.
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:00.559
It's lovely.
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It's like a kind of farmhousey rustic vibe.
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You know, he's got it's private.
00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.799
Yeah, I think it's next to a nice river.
00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:09.279
Yeah.
00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:16.559
The only problem on the other side of the river we see is Brad Wesley.
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Yeah.
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He flies in in his helicopter, which disturbs all Emmett's horses.
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And he goes, I'm sure that goddamn guy does it on purpose.
00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:32.480
Yeah, I mean the fact that we meet this guy coming in, flying in in his helicopter, immediately signposts the fact these are ongan.
00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:46.960
It's like we've got this lovely sort of rural rustic farmhouse that's you know not posh and swanky, it's but it's you know, it's it's sweet, and then you have this helicopter guy zooming in to get to his massive mansion, and you go, Oh yeah, he's an absolute knob.
00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:48.480
Yeah, don't need to know anything else.
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That evening, Frank, the not so old guy.
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I can't believe I've wrote down old guy, I can't believe he's 45.
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Yeah, I think it's shocked me.
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You've got to get over it, but yeah.
00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:00.640
I know.
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Yeah.
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So he he's got the plans for the new double juice, the bar.
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Yeah.
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And he's showing all the staff, and he says, Right, Dalton has taken over handling the bar.
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Whatever Dalton says, goes.
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So Dalton's put in charge straight away, and he sacks some staff.
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He says, It's my way or the highway.
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He sacks the girl, one of the one of the bar mates for selling drugs.
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He sacks another guy for being too aggressive.
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The people he sacks, I mean, it's quite abrupt, and it's not, it's he's certainly making an impression on his first day, but there are reasons for it.
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There are he's not being horrible, he's being professional, logical, and getting rid of people who are not doing the right thing.
00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:44.400
Yeah, they're not doing the job properly.
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And he says to them at all times, I want you to be nice.
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Yeah, that's nice.
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:54.880
They they're looking a bit confused, and somebody says, Well, if somebody calls me a cocksucker, and he goes, Are you?
00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:56.960
He says, Just be nice.
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Yeah.
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He said, I'm be nice until they tell you not to be nice.
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:03.519
You are the bouncers, and I am the cooler.
00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:06.400
That's just like I completely missed this whole cooler thing.
00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:07.839
I never I just didn't hear it.
00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:11.599
I understand, I understand that you don't need to explain what it is.
00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:12.559
I just mean I didn't hear the phone.
00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:14.079
I wanted to man's flame.
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:19.680
I didn't I didn't hear the phrase when I was watching it, and you're you keep using it like it's all the way through.
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:20.880
Just pass me by that.
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:22.240
Right, fair enough.
00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:28.240
So the next night in the bar, one of the bouncers lets in two young women.
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You shouldn't do because she's got like a blockbuster card or something, and he goes, Oh, they're with me, they're with me, and and he knows they shouldn't be in there, but yeah, he lets them in.
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We have a woman dancing on a table, one of the bouncers instructed by Dalton, kindly asks, please, can you get down off the table?
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:50.079
Next thing, there's a fight.
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There's always a fight.
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Guy pulls out a knife, Dalton grabs him and slams his head through the table, not just on the table, it breaks the table, and the and the bouncers lead him out.
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The singer then goes, The name is Dalton, as everybody's looking at just what's happened.
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Later that evening, Dalton catches one of the bouncer who let in the two young women having sex with one of them in the back room.
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He's saying to her, Oh, you can be my regular Saturday night.
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And Dalton says, Your history.
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He goes, I'm on a break.
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He says, Stay on it.
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:23.039
Yeah.
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:26.160
There's loads to say, but I think I'm just gonna wait till the end.
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:31.839
I mean, the whole vibe of this film, the whole look of it, feels so cheap.
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:33.039
It feels so cheap.
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.000
You've said TV movie before, and that is similar, yeah.
00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:37.519
I can get I understand that.
00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:44.880
And this whole kind of I don't know, it feels but when I say cheap, I don't mean I I think I do mean cheap as in they didn't spend a lot of money on it.
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:50.319
But I think the the sort of the the script of it, the the plot of it, everything is just naff.
00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:53.119
There's there's so many tits in this.
00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:58.480
There's so much casual nudity that doesn't that doesn't move the story on.
00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:02.319
I know, and that's why I find it's really naf.
00:26:02.640 --> 00:26:08.079
It is an 80s movie, but that doesn't mean that's just we can still have good, we can still, you know, decent stuff.
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:13.599
So you know, this scene where he's shagging her over the crates of beer or whatever it was in the in the stock room.
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.559
There was just literally no reason that we needed to see her tits.
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:24.079
There was no reason you can get you you can tell the story of what's happening that that you know he's not doing his job and he's shagging somebody, he let in and all that.
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:29.359
You can do all that without some poor actress who would have had no agency at the time having to take her top off.
00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:30.960
And that's how it feels when I watch it.
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:46.000
I'm not against nudity, I think when it's for the story and it's done properly, it's part of acting, it can be part of acting, but it's just when it's done like this and it stands out and it takes you out of the story, it takes you away from this world that they're creating, and that's what I struggled with quite a bit throughout this.
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:50.880
And this was one of the scenes where I was like, Oh, wow, come on, come on, you guys.
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:51.680
I got that.
00:26:51.839 --> 00:26:52.720
Yeah, okay.
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:58.000
Evening's over, successful night, staff sacked, karma club.
00:26:58.079 --> 00:26:59.519
Dalton goes out to his car.
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:01.519
Yeah, all four tires slashed.
00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:02.000
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:04.960
Luckily, he's bought four new tires earlier in the day.
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:06.480
He's been through this ship before.
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:08.240
Yeah, nothing is surprising him.
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.680
No, it's it's it must be just like regular stuff when he gets to a new city.
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:17.359
He's in control all the time, even when he's slamming someone's head into a table, he's doing it in a calculated clear way.
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:22.559
Yeah, he's not doing it just with minimum force, he's doing it to sort out the issue, and that's it.
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:23.200
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:24.720
It's it's a little it's a logic.
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.720
So he gets home to relax.
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:31.599
Brad Wesley on the opposite side of the river in his mansion is throwing a party.
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:32.559
A pool party?
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:33.599
A pool party.
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:36.079
Obviously, so there can be bikini clad women.
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:38.960
I've put more boobage for no reason, ha ha ha.
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:40.480
Nikki will hate it.
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:42.799
Do you know what?
00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:52.880
There's something about it's there's something that I don't think it's not and this is not criticism, but it it just screams naffness to me.
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:57.200
It's that 80s thing of neon string bikinis and high heels.
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:06.240
Yeah, it's so page three, it's so cheesy and naff and cringe, it's not sexy, it's just but it's it's teenage boy from when I was.
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:09.119
Well, this film is aimed at a certain demographic.
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:13.839
And you've got to remember, I'd probably seen this when I was like 15 or 16.
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:15.599
That's why you like it.
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:17.279
Maybe, maybe.
00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:26.480
So the next morning, the waitress Carrie Ann goes to Dalton's place, she's brought in some breakfast, and he gets out of bed completely naked.
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:29.039
I mean, there's no reason for him to be naked whatsoever naked.
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:30.000
I completely agree.
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:36.160
You know, I completely agree, and it felt really intrusive, and I did not want to see Johnny Castle naked when I'd Well, you've seen his buttarse.
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:37.359
I don't want to see them.
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:42.319
It's like it's like seeing someone I know in real life suddenly walking in on them when they're getting changed.
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.799
It felt really intrusive and it was an unnecessary.
00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:50.799
He sacked the bartender the night before, which I'd missed uh because he caught him skimming the T.
00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:52.079
Yeah, there was he was fiddling.
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.480
Carrie Ann says you shouldn't do that.
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:55.599
And he says, why?
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:56.960
And he says you just shouldn't.
00:28:57.119 --> 00:28:58.880
She says she's looking at a dead man.
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:06.640
So then the whole thing, like I I think this next little tiny bit is maybe the most interesting scene, just from what it tells you with so little.
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:10.079
Everything else has been you've been hit over the head with with obviousness, right?
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.400
Yeah, it is it's it's not a subtle film.
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:13.119
Not at all.
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:23.759
But I like how to set up the fact that this Brad Wesley guy, who we've seen having a pool party and we've seen him fly in, we don't know anything else about him beyond the fact he's obviously got loads of money and that attracts people to him.
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:24.559
But that's fine.
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:27.759
That doesn't necessarily mean he's anything dodgy at this point.
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:28.319
Yet.
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:30.559
Yet, obviously, but we don't know that yet.
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:35.440
But we have this little tiny scene where he is also Dalton's driving along in his car on a road.
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:40.480
Yeah, and then he Brad Wesley Wesley is coming towards him, and he is just swaying.
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:46.400
He's listening to music, he's just driving any which way he fancies down this road.
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:50.799
He does not care, and that immediately shows us he knows he's above the law.
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.079
Yeah, nothing he can nothing he can do anything he likes in this town.
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.839
No one is gonna arrest him, no one is gonna touch him, he can do what he likes.
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:03.759
And just that little scene of him just driving badly, but by choice, not because he's kissed or something.
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:06.640
He's just listening to the music, he's singing.
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:08.160
Is it life could be a dream?
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:08.720
I don't know.
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:15.039
I think it is, and he's he's weaving in and out of the lanes, like as if he's got the car dancing.
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:23.920
Yeah, he doesn't care that Dalton is coming across and anyone around him has to move around him, yeah, and that fits exactly who that character is.
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:28.559
And I thought it was a really clever way of showing us everything we need to know about that guy in a tiny scene.
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:32.880
So that morning, Dalton pulls up at Red's auto store.
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:33.920
I liked Red.
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.599
Yeah You know again, you know from the start that Red is a nice guy.
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.839
Yeah, he's just sweet, softly spoken, nice, treats him well.
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:47.359
Yes, he's gonna order him windscreen or windshield, as they called it.
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.440
Okay, because he's been put through the night before and he says, Do you want to open up a tab?
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.359
He goes, No, I'll just pay us a go.
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.119
Because he basically Red knows what's gonna happen every single night.
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:05.440
And that and then as he's about to leave, Brad Wesley walks in with his thug, Jimmy.
00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:06.720
We don't f we don't find his name.
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.599
We don't know about Jimmy at this point, but yeah, he is that guy, isn't it?
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:17.839
Yeah, but you know, he's he's got that hard man look, you know, the as if he's gonna be the final boss kind of thing.
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.839
And the vibe in the shop completely changes as they walk in.
00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:31.039
So Red have been having this nice chat with Dalton, and suddenly the tone is chillier than these two walking in.
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.400
So basically, Red's smile drops Brad Wesley.
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:36.240
I don't know why I keep calling Brad Wesley.
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.400
Well, I think that's just the way it is done in the film.
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.680
He goes, It's a lovely day, and then Red goes, It was.
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:42.400
Yeah.
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:44.319
So you know stuff's going down.
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:49.920
Next night at the bar, some of the thugs that are employed by Brad Wesley have come to speak to Frank.
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:58.240
The bartender who had been sacked by Dalton the night before for skimming the bar was the nephew of Brad Wesley.
00:31:58.319 --> 00:31:58.559
Yeah.
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:00.640
And they're getting his job back.
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:05.119
Frank has just sat there and Dalton says, it's not happening.
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:18.000
Next thing, fight breaks out, Dalton gets slashed, they basically jump through a window, all hell breaks loose, Dalton sorts them out with the help of a couple of the other bouncers and throw them out.
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:23.519
It's like at this point, I've I I've kind of started to lose track of how many mass brawls there are.
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:24.240
Oh, there's a few.
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:31.759
They come thick and fast, and I kind of they definitely lose their impact on you know, you're watching it and you get quite desensitized.
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:32.720
Oh, it's another fight.
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.119
Oh, the first one I was like, oh no, what about Dalton?
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:36.319
You know, and now I'm like, meh.
00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:38.160
Yeah, because he can just handle himself.
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.119
I know, but I just think they do lose their impact the more there are.
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:46.480
I guess some people actively think that they're watching it for the fun fights, maybe.
00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:47.119
I don't know.
00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:54.880
Whereas I'm like, oh god, another few minutes of having to see people throw things at each other, and you know, I know how it's gonna end, it's fine, just can we move on?
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.160
That's how I was feeling, I think, when they kept starting these things.
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:00.240
So now is a plot point for the movie.
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:03.920
Dalton decides to not show himself off and goes to the hospital.
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:05.200
It was this was too hard.
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:06.880
This was too difficult this one.
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.359
He's been he's been probably stabbed, basically, hasn't he?
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:11.200
Well, it's slashed on the side.
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:13.440
I think it'd be it would be difficult.
00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:15.279
And he gets seen to by the doctor.
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:15.759
Dr.
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:16.319
Clay.
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:17.759
Elizabeth Clay.
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:19.680
It's kept it's I can't remember her name.
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:20.880
Gilmore Girls have seen it.
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:22.319
No, no, no, no, she's in cocktail.
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:22.480
Ah.
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.319
She's married to Brian Brown and Cocktail.
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:25.759
Oh, I didn't realise that was the same actress.
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:26.240
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:27.359
But you know, do you know what?
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.480
It's been a while since I've seen both of them, so putting the two together.
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:31.519
Yeah, yeah, Kelly Lynch.
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:32.319
Fair enough.
00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:34.319
He's got his medical records with him.
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:34.720
Yeah.
00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:37.839
He basically knows that shit's gonna go down.
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:40.960
He's always in control, he always is ready for things.
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:47.759
He's prime, so he's got his uh he's got his spare tires, so when he gets his tire slash that night, he's got his medical records the next time he gets stabbed.
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.319
It's like he's just nothing is left to chance.
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:51.359
Because he knows what's gonna happen.
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.240
He does, it's like this control thing all the time with him.
00:33:54.480 --> 00:34:00.720
Yeah, she asks him about Kyon's medical records, and he says it saves time, and then she staples them together.
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:02.480
We also find out during their chat.
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:03.680
I mean, this is so improbable.
00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:05.519
Can I just say it's so improbable?
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:08.400
He he's got a philosophy degree.
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:08.880
Yeah.
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:13.920
And so it's these signposts that he's a nice guy, even though he does all this fighting, he's a nice guy.
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.920
Can I just point out the improbable thing is not the philosophy degree, I'll get to the improbable thing in a minute.
00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:22.159
So he also does, and we saw him do like Tai Chi or something in the morning by the room.
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:22.960
It's coming off.
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:23.920
No, we've already seen it.
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:24.880
Have we seen it?
00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:28.800
Well, yes, but the point is it's these signposts that we're being given.
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:42.159
He may beat people up and throw people out, you know, and have to sort of handle himself, but he's this peaceful, calm zen person, which I think we're already seeing, because like I say, we he comes across as being in control all the time, he's always lose his temper.
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:47.519
The improbable thing for me is okay, and it's a real I'm really conflicted by this.
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.800
So oh god, I am conflicted, but I'm gonna say it.
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:58.639
Kelly Lynch is a very beautiful woman in the in the classic, obvious 1982 sense.
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.119
Big hair, big long blonde hair, right?
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:02.719
Really slim.
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:07.360
I think she's had some work done to maybe change body shapes.
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:08.159
No idea.
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:09.039
Well, I think she has.
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:10.400
Oh yes, because they look really fake.
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:11.599
But that's not the point of the shape.
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:12.719
Oh no, that's later on.
00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:13.519
No, no, no, no.
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:17.280
I'm just talking in general about Kelly Lynch because you see her in a bikini all the time in cocktails.
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.079
So you know, she's she's an actress in the 80s, and I think she's chosen.
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:20.880
She's a model.
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:22.320
She's a model first.
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:34.880
Okay, but the point is, I think there's a look in the 80s that she embodies, and maybe it's all naturally how she was born and she's not done anything, but also I think a lot of, as we all do, we change our hair colour, we do our hairstyles, we wear our clothes, whatever.
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:41.440
So I think there's a look that she has in this era, particularly, or at least the characters have, okay, that she plays.
00:35:41.679 --> 00:36:00.400
And I'm not saying that that person couldn't be a doctor, but what I'm saying is a realistic doctor does not have time to spend blow-drying their hair and dyeing their hair constantly and working out in the gym to maintain a very slim, muscular, kind of tautness, and isn't going and getting aesthetic work done.
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:12.800
I think in real life a doctor is quite busy and stressed, and they can be naturally beautiful and brilliantly beautiful in all the ways, but I think in the ways of actual things that they've done themselves, they generally don't have time.
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:16.800
So maybe the time was quite small and there's no lot of patients in the office.
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:27.199
So when I see Kelly Lynch looking like Kelly Lynch in the 80s being a doctor, I feel a bit like, you know, when and I I can't believe I'm even referencing this for the second time this podcast.
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:34.000
Remember when hideous, hideous page three, which only got booted out of the papers ten years ago?
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:49.840
Used to have like a woman with no top on, and you know, I don't know, it would have a little box going, Kelly says that she doesn't understand why the ERM says, you know, and talks about the some, you know, financial nonsense, whatever.
00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:53.280
And it's so passionising and so rubbish, and I hated it, I hated it, I hated it.
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:54.559
This feels like that.
00:36:54.719 --> 00:37:01.920
It feels a little bit to me like we've we've chosen a model who looks like a model to now play the role of a doctor.
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.719
She doesn't do anything in you know, sort of um belief.
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.400
She's she sews them up for three minutes or whatever, a few minutes of the scene.
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:10.960
But I just feel like it's not a realistic doctor.
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:16.239
I've just they wanted to cash Kelly Lynch because I guess she was the hot ticket at the time, which is fine.
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:18.239
I just didn't after Top Gun.
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:19.679
Didn't Top Gun cocktail.
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:20.559
I didn't think it's a good thing.
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:23.119
Same film but different stuff, yeah.
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:24.800
Ones with drinks and ones with plays.
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:27.199
Tom Cruise film with 80s is the same film.
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:29.280
No, I just I just didn't like it.
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:38.239
Having said that, there's a line later on that Wade says about her physical appearance that makes me want to punch him.
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:39.440
Okay, we'll get to that later.
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:47.039
But the point is it's not it shouldn't be about how she looks, but the other point is in the 80s this was her look, and I don't buy I just don't buy her as a doctor.
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:48.079
That's basically what I'm saying.
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:52.159
To counteract that in my previous life as a hairdresser, yeah.
00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:56.159
I have cut some beautiful doctor's hair.
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:57.679
So it does exist.
00:37:58.079 --> 00:37:59.760
Whoa, I'm not saying doctors aren't beautiful.
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:05.199
I think being a doctor by virtue in itself is beautiful, and that person then is amazingly beautiful.
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:13.199
Plus, if they have any sense, any sort of semblance of beauty that is sort of people uh generally understand as beauty, then that's extra.
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:21.360
My point is the beauty that we see in Kelly Lynch's characters that she plays is beauty that takes effort.
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:23.360
Yeah, I get it, I get what you say.
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:28.239
It takes work, it takes, you know, it takes so much commitment to.
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:36.639
I mean, models have to put so much effort in, lots of actresses have to put so much effort in to maintain the a look that will give them work, right?
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:43.440
Doctors don't need to do that, doctors are just like sleeping and eat and walking through shift and having to, you know, survive.
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.559
I'm not saying doctors aren't beautiful in any any way.
00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:55.360
I'm saying that to maintain an artificial aesthetic is not something that I think doctors have time for.
00:38:55.599 --> 00:39:01.440
And I think Kelly Lynch, lovely woman, don't know her, probably I presume she's lovely, who knows?
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:02.960
But I'm sure she's a lovely woman.
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.079
But in the 80s, her aesthetic was an artificial aesthetic.
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:08.079
I'll give you a little fact about Kelly Lynch.
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:08.320
Go on.
00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:09.920
Your best friend is Cheryl Cropp.
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:10.639
Thank you.
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:11.519
I read that.
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:12.559
So anyway.
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.679
Do you want to quote where you read it from, or is it AI slot?
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:17.039
It was I and D B.
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:18.639
Okay, well, it must be a joke.
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.199
And I just want to say, my beauty is natural living.
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:26.880
So while you're looking at me, I know it's hard work doing all the stuff that I do, and I just took this.
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:29.119
I do no maintenance, so I could be a doctor.
00:39:29.360 --> 00:39:30.559
Yeah, I could, yeah.
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:31.920
So let's move on.
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:32.239
Okay.
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:38.159
He invites her to the club, and she again says the line for the job you do, I thought you'd be bigger.
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:40.480
Yeah, I just think we all need to get over this.
00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:43.360
He laughs and says, gee, I've never heard that before.
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:45.440
So it's just a thing everybody says to him.
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.519
Back at Brad Wesley's after the after the math of the brawl the next day.
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:51.039
He's happy.
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.239
He's not a happy man, and he wants an apology.
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:57.599
He's got them all lined up, and two of them say sorry.
00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:00.719
One of them, I think is it Tigger, they called him.
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:01.280
I don't know.
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:02.400
I didn't pay too much attention.
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:10.800
And another guy, a blonde guy, and he says, I believe you, but I don't believe you.
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.440
And he's just looking to take out some of his anger.
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:17.519
He's a bit of a sadist, it seems, because he does properly, he's really violent.
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:18.320
He beats him.
00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:18.559
Yeah.
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:21.119
He beats him and then he wants him kicked off his property.
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:25.840
So Dalton heads back to Reds, the auto store, and there's a mess.
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.800
And Dalton goes, Yeah, he goes, What's going on?
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.559
And he says, Brad Wesley.
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:31.840
It happens every week.
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:32.400
Yeah.
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:35.199
He takes 10% of our profits.
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:36.880
He does it with all the businesses.
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:37.840
So Dalton.
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:40.639
Can we just not skip over a very funny line?
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:41.360
Go on.
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:44.000
So Dalton says, Does everyone pay?
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.719
And he says, Does a hobby horse have a wooden dick?
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:48.559
That was quite funny.
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:50.079
I love the details you pick up.
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:51.119
I thought it was funny.
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:52.320
That was amusing.
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:52.880
Yeah.
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:57.599
So Dalton gives his friend Wade the call, and this is the first time we see Sam Elliott.
00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:58.400
Yeah.
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:00.079
With his lovely long hair.
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:01.920
Didn't recognise him at first.
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:03.519
I heard his voice and then I knew it was him.
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:03.679
Yeah.
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:05.119
And I'd seen he was on the computer.
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:06.320
He's so recognisable.
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:06.800
That voice.
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:09.360
He doesn't ever change it.
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.960
And he starts asking him, has he ever heard of Brad Wesley?
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:14.880
He knows something's going down in the town.
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:15.679
That's not good.
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:16.559
He hasn't.
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.599
The Double Deuce has had a small makeover.
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:20.559
Yeah.
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:24.320
It's lost its cage around the musicians.
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:25.440
It's got safer.
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:26.719
It's got a lot safer.
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:29.519
The crowds are starting to come.
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.559
You know, it's getting a bit busier queuing outside.
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.199
The blonde woman from an area, Denise, tries it on with Dalton.
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:41.119
And then a thug of Brad Wesley's, which is Jimmy, drags it out.
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:44.159
A few of Brad Wesley's thugs attempt to get in the bar.
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:49.119
Dalton spots it and he sees a blade on the front of one of the thugs' feet.
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:50.480
On the shoot.
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:50.719
Yeah.
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:52.480
Not his foot.
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:53.440
Yeah.
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:59.840
They come in barefooted like the flint stones on the front of his boots, like a James Bond type blade.
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.280
And a fight breaks out.
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:06.800
He takes them outside and there's a fight, just as the lovely Doctor Elizabeth walks in.
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:14.000
You've the the little detail you've skipped, which stood out to me, but again, maybe it shouldn't, is they turn up in like a monster truck.
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:14.880
Yeah.
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.119
Which is foreshadowing for later.
00:42:18.880 --> 00:42:22.960
Yeah, it's it's why this film does not feel like it's meant to be an adult film.
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:24.079
Well the monster truck.
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:26.480
The monster truck.
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:39.840
There's a there's a scene later, and it's actually this scene where Dalton is with Kelly Lynch, Elizabeth, and they're in a monster truck and go, oh right, as if they're inconspicuous.
00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:43.360
It's about 16 foot tall, biggest wheels you've ever seen.
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:47.199
It's just yeah, it's foreshadowing for being made for little boys.
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:48.400
This film, I love it.
00:42:48.719 --> 00:42:49.920
Oh yeah, exactly.
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:55.840
So as she turns up, Elizabeth looks around and the fighters just calm down.
00:42:56.880 --> 00:42:58.000
He says, What you come for?
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.760
She said they come to see you, and then they go off for a coffee in the diner.
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:02.960
Yeah.
00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:05.760
It's nice that they don't go to a bar.
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:08.239
Yes, because this is different from his work environment.
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:09.039
It's his work environment.
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:10.960
So he sees this as a social thing.
00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:16.079
I think it's a more improbability that she would have stuck around once she saw the fight and saw him fighting.
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:17.039
I knew you'd think that.
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:17.599
Of course.
00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:20.400
Because like no one needs that hassle in their life, you know.
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.360
So she asks if he's always better than the other.
00:43:23.519 --> 00:43:27.840
And he says somebody who's looking for trouble is not as good as somebody who's expecting it.
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:29.280
Yeah, he's always primed.
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:30.559
Yeah, he's always ready.
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:43.679
There was another bit in this scene in the diner where we are being hit over the head by being told he is a nice guy when uh there's a sort of guy on a stool that's sort of falling asleep, and he just kept keeps gently just pushing him back up when he's and then pays his food.
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:50.480
Yeah, no, the guy who is running a diner says if he stays any longer, I'll have to pay, I have to charge him rent.
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:53.280
Dalton throws some money on it, he goes, What's that?
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:54.880
And he goes, It's his rent for the night.
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:56.559
Yeah, if you tip over.
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.760
And then Dalton says to Elizabeth, I better take.
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.760
You know, where you start thinking I'm a nice guy.
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:05.119
But we're yeah, he we were all being told he's a nice guy.
00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:05.440
Yeah.
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:06.559
Very obviously.
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:11.599
She drives him back to his car outside the double deuce, it's slashed again.
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:12.559
Right?
00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:16.000
And he laughs and he goes, you know, it's just to be expected.
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:18.239
And she wants to see him again, then they kiss.
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:26.320
And it is nice because he kissed, and it's very sweet and quite simple, and it's not like this hedonistic sexuality that's all around him in his job.
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:26.559
Yeah.
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:30.639
It's not titt out and shagging over beer barrels and not a beer crate.
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:31.519
It's none of that.
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:31.760
Yeah.
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.199
It's a sweet, almost teenage boy first kiss.
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:43.039
It feels like you don't you can't you don't believe for one second that he's never been with anybody or anything like that, but you do believe that he doesn't just shag anyone.
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:45.039
He could shag anyone he liked every night.
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.679
Undoubtedly, he's so calm and collected.
00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:51.440
There's an attractiveness to Dalton because he is so calm.
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:52.960
Not sure he's Johnny Castle.
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:57.360
Yeah, you know, he's not losing his shit every minute, he's just responding to threats.
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:58.079
That's what he does.
00:44:58.159 --> 00:44:59.280
He responds to threats.
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:00.400
He cools them down.
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:01.280
Oh yeah.
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:03.039
I also liked Elizabeth's car.
00:45:03.119 --> 00:45:03.760
I love a Jeep.
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:04.559
Love a Jeep.
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:05.599
I knew you'd like the Jeep.
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:06.079
I love a Jeep.
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:07.760
That's why I picked the film, just because of the Jeep.
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:14.559
So the next morning, some random reason, Dalt was just lying on the hood of his car.
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:15.920
He's waiting.
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:20.079
And two of Brad Wesley's thugs come over to speak to him.
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.400
I've called them goons all the way through, but thugs is just.
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:28.000
In my my writing.
00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:37.280
They take him over to Brad Wesley's, and as he goes in, Denise is working out, the blonde lady, and she's got a black eye.
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:39.599
Yeah, she's covered in bruises, rubber is horrible.
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:40.559
Is that Denise?
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:41.440
It is Denise.
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:45.039
Okay, I've just put his girlfriend whereas I'd already called Denise, Denise in my notes, so who knows?
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:49.039
The other thing is, so that's obviously straight away we know Brad Wesley is horrible.
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:51.599
That's you know, that gives us all we need to know.
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:58.079
But before we see her, we also see that he has two pool tables side by side, and in my head, I'm like, oh well, he's a wanker, then isn't he?
00:45:58.159 --> 00:45:59.039
That's more evidence.
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:00.159
You don't need two.
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:00.639
Come on.
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:01.440
Do you know what I mean?
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:02.639
He got lots of friends.
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:07.440
No, I just thought I liked how they set it up very quickly to be like, yep, he's a wanker, he's got two pool tables.
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.960
Oh, and also he is he beats up his girlfriend, so proper evil.
00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:14.239
He's eating breakfast, he says to Dalton, do you want some?
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.480
Dalton's just plainly refuses.
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:23.039
He said Dalton says that Brad got rich off people of the town, and he says, I'm gonna get richer.
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:29.119
They talk about Dalton's job, and Brad thinks Dalton enjoys beating people up, which he's got it completely wrong.
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:29.440
Yeah.
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.360
Because he doesn't enjoy beating people up.
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:35.280
No, but Brad does know that Dalton has killed somebody.
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:36.639
Yeah, that's referenced.
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:40.480
And he said he says, People think you did it in self-defense, didn't you?
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:42.320
But it was done on purpose.
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:51.679
And it's it's but basically we talk about this now because it's done later in the film when he's talking to Wade Garrett, but I'll talk about it now.
00:46:51.920 --> 00:47:04.239
He was with a woman and she didn't tell him that she was married, and the husband came in, he had the gun, and it was his choice, it was either get shot or defend yourself, and in defend himself, he accidentally killed the guy.
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:06.960
Yeah, it makes sense in the parameters of the film.
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:07.840
Yeah, you know what I mean.
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:09.599
This is not real life, let's face it.
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:10.239
Um, so yeah.
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:11.440
He's probably in prison.
00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:12.159
Yeah.
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:16.480
So Brad Wesley says, The job you do, I'm gonna get a club.
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:18.639
How much would it cost for you to work for me?
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:22.800
And Dalton says, No amount of money would make me work for you, and then walks off.
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:25.920
I'm taking it he swum across the river to get back home.
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:30.480
I don't know because he I there's no reference to him going back in the car, but hey-ho.
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.840
So the double deuce has had another makeover.
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:41.119
Yeah, the clientele is much better, there's massive queues outside, it is the hot place to go.
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:45.599
Frank says it's great, but booze are starting to run low.
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.199
So Dalton makes another call at the end of the night.
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:50.800
The doctor is waiting for him.
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.320
The booze is running low because Brad Wesley supplies the booze.
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:54.639
Yeah.
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.320
So he stopped supplying.
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:57.119
Okay.
00:47:57.280 --> 00:47:59.280
So this is gonna this is a problem.
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:01.199
It's gonna, it's gonna stop the club.
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:03.199
But Dalton has a solution.
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:08.960
Dalton knows people, he's been in the business that long, he knows people outside the town to get the booze shipped in.
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:09.440
Yeah.
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:15.840
So lovely Elizabeth is waiting for Dalton at the end of his shift.
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.719
Two thugs who Dalton doesn't spot in a big monster truck in the car park.
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:23.679
Hey, there's Brad Wesley's thugs in a monster truck.
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:24.159
Oh my god.
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.079
Spot that he's with Elizabeth.
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:30.960
They make a note of it, and Dalton takes her back to his place.
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:37.119
So he said that he's seeing a picture of her in reds, and she references that to her uncle.
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:37.920
Yeah.
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:39.039
They dance.
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.039
Hang on, you're skipping way ahead here.
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:41.760
No, no, I'm not.
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:42.320
You are.
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:42.880
Go on.
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:48.639
She's like, look, she's in his place and she looks out of the window at Brad Wesley's place.
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:54.400
And she's and she's it she sees, she looks, and she's kind of something's going on.
00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:54.880
Yeah.
00:48:55.039 --> 00:49:02.000
And then they're talking about their peop who they are, and she says that she's been married before, but she picked the wrong guy.
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.039
So I'm thinking, the wrong guy is Brad Wesley.
00:49:05.119 --> 00:49:06.400
She was married to Brad Wesley.
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:12.400
The way she looks out that window at his house at this point in the room, it's like she's got history with him.
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:14.239
And then it turns out that's not the case.
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:14.559
Yeah.
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:16.960
So If there is history, no, there is history with him.
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.320
Yeah, but it's the way she'd said, I think she's in the diner she'd picked the wrong guy.
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:21.920
And I'm thinking, I wonder who the wrong guy was.
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:23.280
I get I bet we'll meet them.
00:49:23.440 --> 00:49:25.440
We never really find out who she was married to.
00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.480
And also now you're saying that it might be Brad Wesley.
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:30.159
No, because we've we would be told.
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:31.280
We were never told.
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:36.239
The issue was that um is it Jimmy wanted to be with her and was a bit obsessed and she turned him down.
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:37.199
That's the issue.
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.079
But Brad Wesley has got nothing to do with it, but it's the way she looks.
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:45.920
No, she got history with Brad Wesley, it's referenced later because when she left town, he went nuts.
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:46.480
Okay.
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:49.440
So that is a line, it's later than this.
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:53.599
So I've never thought of it until you mentioned that she's married to Brad Wesley.
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:54.719
I think that's it actually it's not.
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:56.000
Well, they don't make that clear, they don't say it.
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:58.239
This scene.
00:49:58.480 --> 00:49:59.280
They dance.
00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:02.880
Go on, you talk, you talk, and you talk, and then I'll talk.
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:03.519
Right.
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:05.039
I'm cross.
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:09.519
They they dance and then they make sweet wheat love.
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:10.480
Sweet wheat love.
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:10.960
Sweet wheat.
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:11.679
Is that what you said?
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:12.960
Sweet wheat love, really.
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:13.280
Do they?
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:14.159
Sweet, sweet love.
00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:15.119
Megan El, right.
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:16.800
And more boobies.
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:17.440
Right.
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:19.840
Forget the boobies and stop saying boobies.
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:24.000
Here's the biggest issue I had with this film was this scene.
00:50:24.159 --> 00:50:26.320
And it's got nothing to do with this plot.
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:28.559
Is it the fact he used the song from Dirty Dancing?
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:29.679
Fuck yes.
00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:31.760
It boiled my piss.
00:50:32.400 --> 00:50:33.840
I knew that would be a thing.
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:35.360
Right, here's the thing.
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:45.039
The scene in Dirty Dancing, when Johnny is in his chalet, which is no not at all dissimilar to his room here.
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.599
It's kind of run down and it's basic.
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:48.400
Yeah.
00:50:48.800 --> 00:50:51.599
There's a knock at the door, it's baby.
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:56.000
She comes in, she does the whole, I don't want to walk out this door, thinking the whole life.
00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:58.639
I don't know, never been whatever, I can't remember that now.
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:00.239
Then they dance.
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:01.519
He puts on a record.
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.400
Is it I'm more scared of walking out of this room and never.
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:13.679
He puts on a record, it's these arms of mine, they dance, they begin to undress, they begin.
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.679
Well, we don't it the camera goes and we don't see them have sex, but that's the implication.
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:19.840
In this, he's in a very similar room.
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:23.519
There's a knock on the door, it's Elizabeth, they have a chat to each other.
00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:29.039
He puts on music, it's these arms of mine, they dance, they start to undress, they then actually do shag.
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:33.440
We can talk about the shagging against the wall in time with the music anytime you like, because it was ridiculous.
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:35.920
But anyway, the fact I always make love.
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.320
Don't say mate love, it's so icky.
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:48.400
The fact they use the same song in a very similar scene, it's beat for beat, very similar, the way the doors knock and all that.
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:50.239
I know she's already in this scene.
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:57.440
No, no, she not, she does, she turns up at his place, and then it's like they get together, but he puts the music on first, then he stands and then it starts.
00:51:57.599 --> 00:51:59.039
It's so similar.
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:00.880
I was livid.
00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:02.079
I was livid.
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:09.519
It's first of all, it's just it's just nicking, nicking an idea from a film that has already happened and is really good.
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:11.599
So you're nicking someone else's good idea.
00:52:11.760 --> 00:52:22.880
It's cheapening the it's cheapening what you could do with this scene by just trying to rip off something else by what they Elizabeth and Dalton, what you could have here.
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:31.760
You could make this a really interesting scene how they get together, how they eventually kinda you know, how he's actually really sweet and tender and not like all these other people, and how she, you know, you could make that lovely.
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:38.079
But the fact they just think route one, let's do what's been done before, with another film, like a completely different film with other people.
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.639
The only similarity is the only same thing is Dalton, is Joyce Patrick Swayze.
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:46.320
The whole thing made me so cross, so cross.
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:50.000
And there's another bit later on where it's a proper riff off dirty dancing as well.
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.000
I'll say it now because I don't want to get angry again.
00:52:52.239 --> 00:53:01.039
It's when someone's the Denise is stripping on stage, which is gross in itself, and he needs to stop it, but he doesn't want to like kick off, so he's just being gentle.
00:53:01.199 --> 00:53:04.480
So he goes and he does like the wiggly finger to beckon her.
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.199
Did you see that's pure dirty dancing?
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.199
He does that to baby the first time he meets her.
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:16.400
The minute you see Patrick Swayze look down his finger and wiggle it to beckon someone, is pure dirty dancing.
00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:19.039
Maybe that's Patrick's acting, though, maybe.
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:32.320
Because what a proper director would do is if Patrick Swayze says, I'd really like to wiggle my finger, like I did in Dirty Dancing, they go, Well, no, because that's been done, and that's what will take you out, people out of the film because it'll make you think of Johnny Castle and it won't make them think of you.
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:33.280
You're your own character.
00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:34.880
Let's think about what this character could do.
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:36.000
That's what it should have been.
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:43.599
But what it was instead was somebody, I don't know if it's a director, it's a writer, or whoever, or maybe it's Patrick Swayze, but I don't believe it because I think he would think this was silly.
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.239
Honestly, maybe you forgot it was in Dirty Dancing.
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:49.760
The fact they've completely ripped off as key thing.
00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:51.280
Music is so evocative.
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:52.559
The same piece of music.
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:56.400
I understand made me livid, and I can't.
00:53:56.559 --> 00:53:59.599
It just made any enjoyment I was getting at the film.
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:01.599
This has taken it all away, this scene.
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:03.360
Well, maybe it was done as a homage.
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:04.559
No, it wasn't.
00:54:04.719 --> 00:54:07.440
It was done as a rip-off, and I'm furious, and I'm still furious.
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:08.239
Look at my notes.
00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:09.920
It's red and it's capitals.
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:12.400
Red and capitals says Angry Ness.
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:14.320
Then a big bad thing happens in his room.
00:54:14.400 --> 00:54:15.280
Johnny puts on some music.
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:16.960
It's These Arms of Mine from Dirty Dancing.
00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:20.480
He plays the exact same song when Baby turns up at his room at night and they get together for the first time.
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:23.360
This is an absolute liberty from Roadhouse, and I hate them for it.
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:24.159
Not cool.
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:25.039
There you go.
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:26.960
Right, I've said my piece.
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:31.440
So honestly, it it's dead to me at this point.
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:32.079
Anyway, go on.
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:37.920
Well, Brad Wesley has been watching all what's gone on from the opposite side, and you can see he's got a scene.
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:41.760
Like Vivian Pressman sort, but you'd be leaving Patrick at Johnny's hand.
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:42.480
Just say anyway.
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:44.639
That's exactly the same scene.
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:46.639
I am mad for that scene.
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:52.400
Anyway, next day, the singer at the bar, the blind guy.
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:54.719
Or visually impaired, but yeah, whatever.
00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:57.039
Well, I call me anti-blind, and she calls herself blind.
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:03.280
That's good, but you're not her, so he says, I hear you've been spending time with Elizabeth Clay.
00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:04.159
Not good.
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:08.239
She had a thing with Brad Wesley, and he went nuts when she left town.
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.239
See, I told you it was there because I wrote it down.
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:12.079
So the beer truck comes.
00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:21.199
As Dalton goes to start collecting the beer, some of the thugs turn up, or the goons, as you want to say, to stop the alcohol.
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.800
They beat Dalton and Wade Garrett turns up.
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:29.440
Yeah, he happens to turn up at the exact same time that Dalton's losing a fight, which is quite cool.
00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:30.639
It's quite handy for the narrative.
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:33.760
And then they both end off fighting.
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:40.079
It shows you that Wade Garrett is he's a bit old, but he still knows how to take somebody down.
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:46.400
He goes to the biggest person first, hits him in the balls, kicks him in his knee, and the guy's just gone completely.
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.880
I liked how Wade caught as he approaches the club, he calls it the double douche.
00:55:51.360 --> 00:55:51.760
That was funny.
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:56.880
The goons leave, Dalton says, I want to introduce it to somebody.
00:55:57.679 --> 00:55:59.280
Wade starts getting concerned now.
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.119
Dalton's putting roots down.
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:09.679
They bond over the stories of the past when they're talking to Elizabeth about how he is and all this kind of stuff.
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:13.119
And then he says, We need to go somewhere more romantic.
00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:17.679
And then you start seeing Wade and Elizabeth dance.
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:20.719
I find Wade really creepy.
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:21.519
Right.
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.440
And I don't think we're meant to.
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:24.400
I wasn't sure.
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:26.960
At this point, I wasn't sure what I was supposed to think.
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:30.960
I found him I f and I don't know if it I don't know Sam Ellie.
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:33.440
I've never seen Sam Ellie interviewed, so I don't know what he's like.
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:36.480
But I find him often very, very intense.
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.800
The characters he plays are very intense.
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:39.039
Yeah.
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:53.280
And I don't know if that's to do with his very deep voice, which he's got such a unique voice, which is very commanding, and he can sort of say very little, but when he does say something, it really captures, you know, it sort of controls the the scene or whatever.
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:54.559
So it could be that.
00:56:54.719 --> 00:57:01.280
But there was something about the way he's dancing with Elizabeth, which is fine, they're all friends together, and they're sort of just getting to know each other, and it's nice.
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:09.039
But it's the way he it's his eye contact, he has unwavering eye contact with it in a way to me that is like well, weird, not not nice.
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:11.760
I knew I knew you'd find that a bit strange.
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:13.360
Find what strange?
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:22.239
The way he was dancing with her, the way he was touching her, dancing is fine, being flirty with a friend's partner is fine when you know it's all just good fun.
00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:23.679
Don't mind that at all.
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:28.079
It's his particular style of intensity.
00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:29.440
I find too much.
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:34.559
And to the point where if I was Elizabeth, I'd be like, okay, no, I've had enough dancing now, thank you, and then just back away.
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:35.440
And then she sat down.
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.280
Yeah, I just found that quite I find I don't know if I find Sam Elliott creepy.
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:42.639
I can't say that because I don't know anything about him, I've never seen him be himself.
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:47.920
But I find several of the characters I've seen him play a lot, yeah, a lot.
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:52.000
Maybe he just takes scenes where it is very intense characters.
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:56.079
Maybe that that's his acting style, maybe that's completely different to how he is as a person.
00:57:56.320 --> 00:58:00.719
But the bit where so at this point I'm thinking, yes, I'm a bit uncomfortable with him, but okay, fine.
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.000
Don't know what the people who make this film are wanting me to think about him.
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:04.639
Is he a good guy?
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:05.360
Is he a bad guy?
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:06.079
Don't know yet.
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:21.119
And then as Elizabeth walks out to the loo or wherever she goes, oh, she goes to work actually, he literally stares at her ass, like stares, and says, That girl has entirely too many brains to have an ass like that.
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:22.800
And that's when I wanted to punch him.
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.159
That's when I thought, no.
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:26.559
I didn't write that down because I knew you'd write that down.
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:28.400
No, not for me, thanks.
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:29.360
You can jog on.
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:33.280
And so as a result, what eventually happens to Wade, I didn't care.
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:49.599
I just did not care about so the thing the thing with this is it's in my opinion, and I might get this wrong, is that they're trying to show Wade is different to Dalton in the fact that Wade has worked in bars all his life, and he's the kind of person you would expect to be in bars where Dalton isn't.
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:51.119
Dalton's a level above that.
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:52.320
Why is he a level above it?
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:52.880
What do you mean?
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:59.039
Because he's not creepy, he's not flirty, he's not all over women, he's cool, and collective.
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:01.920
He's not enjoying the perks of the job, if you mean that kind of idea.
00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:07.119
He's not drinking and meeting women, and yeah, okay, not enjoying the perks.
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:08.000
Maybe.
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:15.280
I didn't I like I say I didn't know if I was supposed to think he was bad or good, but I decided well, I decided at that point he's awful.
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:25.760
I just I just felt like and I still didn't know if he was gonna be like one of the bad official bad guys, I didn't know if that's how the story was gonna go, but it to me they'd set it up like he could be because he'd said such a pervy thing.
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:30.880
See, I never never got that, and I just think that it's just an 80s line.
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:32.719
It's just maybe it's dated now, yeah.
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:34.639
It is very, very dated.
00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:38.800
Maybe it was to wow, Elizabeth is really hot, mate.
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:39.840
You're doing really well.
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.719
Kind of even so, that's so inappropriate.
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:44.880
I know it is it is, but that's the 80s.
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.239
So the next night, all's going well.
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:55.440
Dalton's in double douche or double douche, and a bouncer runs in and tells him Red's Auto store's on fire.
00:59:55.760 --> 01:00:00.000
Red's Auto store is very conveniently placed, well, yeah, 50 metres away from the bar.
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:03.280
The bar looks like it's in the middle of nowhere, yeah.
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:05.599
But Red's Auto store's next to it.
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:07.119
Next thing it blows up.
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:11.519
I mean, I don't know what Red was storing there, but it literally blows sky high.
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:12.079
Yeah.
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:16.800
We see Red come in his pickup truck, and he's really visibly upset.
01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:19.440
Back at the bar, everybody's gone.
01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.000
Bradlett Wesley's there with his goons.
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:23.760
He's won.
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:25.760
And Denise.
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:27.599
Oh yeah.
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:29.760
He says she can dance.
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:36.400
So he gets the musicians to start playing some music, and she does a sexy dance.
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:38.400
For no reason whatsoever.
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:45.280
Well, because the film knows that it can't get people to watch this on its script, so we have to get naked women.
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.199
And she ends up with the boobs out.
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:50.639
Yeah, and we say naked women, but actually she was a child.
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:50.960
Yeah.
01:00:51.199 --> 01:00:52.639
The actress was a child, and that's it.
01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:54.480
So I how did she get this part?
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:56.239
Because no one gave a shit back then.
01:00:56.480 --> 01:00:57.840
No, because there was still Laws.
01:00:58.239 --> 01:00:59.440
It's it's not the only film.
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.599
Why would we say it's just after the podcast?
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.000
Well, look on IMDB, she was born in 1970.
01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:04.320
Yeah.
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:06.800
This came Oh actually, no, oh no, she's 19.
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.960
Well, when the film came out, she was 19.
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:10.400
I don't know when he filmed it.
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:10.800
Right.
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:12.159
Still not 21.
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:20.400
And also, just I just feel like this she's not the only person in this film that has no re there's no reason for her character to do this.
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:27.760
You can s you can show that she's under the control of her horrible old boyfriend, gangster boyfriend, without her.
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:31.840
She can you know, he can you can make he can do all this without having to get her top off.
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:32.880
It's just horrible.
01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:37.760
And it's also this is the bit where Johnny Castle does his finger, and I say Johnny Castle quite deliberately.
01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:38.400
Yeah.
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:40.719
So he took gets it off the bar.
01:01:41.039 --> 01:01:44.000
As she gets down off the bar, she kisses him.
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:48.320
Then Jimmy, the big thug of Wesley's.
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:53.039
When I say big thug, he's not the biggest guy, but he looks like the most professional.
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:58.159
It's I he's kind of like supposed to be the polar opposite of Dalton in this film, isn't he?
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:00.159
He's the one who looks after Brad Wesley.
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:01.519
He does not have a philosophy degree.
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:05.039
He doesn't have a philosophy degree, but he knows how to fight.
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:07.360
He starts fighting with all the bouncers.
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:08.719
Another mass brawl.
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:09.199
Yep.
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:14.079
Wade gets involved, starts fighting with Jimmy.
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.519
Jimmy looks like he's got the better of Wade.
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:21.440
Dalton steps in and Wesley shoots a gun at the ceiling.
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:23.039
Probably left a big hole in the ceiling.
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:24.320
Did he never talk about that?
01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:27.119
In this brand new bar, and so that's enough.
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:27.920
Time to go.
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:30.639
Jimmy says to Dalton, your ass is mine.
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:32.559
It's all so silly.
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:34.480
It's so serious.
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:40.880
Next day, at Red's house, and I don't know why Dalton's in Red's house with all the businessmen of the town.
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:43.440
Red's looking to leave town, he's had enough.
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:45.920
Brad Wesley's gone too far this time.
01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:51.360
I mean, but Dalton's there, presumably, because they know they can they know he's alright, they know they can trust him.
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:51.679
Yeah.
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:52.320
They like him.
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:54.639
But but the thing is, why would he be there?
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:58.559
Because he's got the brains to work out something to help them.
01:02:58.639 --> 01:02:59.599
He wants to help.
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:01.519
Maybe he suggested stuff.
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:02.320
I don't know.
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:08.400
So as they drive off, Elizabeth and Dalton are driving through town.
01:03:08.639 --> 01:03:14.079
They stop because Brad Wesley's unhappy with the car dealer ship owner.
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:18.480
Because he must have got word that there's a vibe growing against him in town.
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:20.880
He's got fingers in pies everywhere.
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:22.400
He knows everything.
01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:24.079
And he's unhappy.
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:31.119
So he drives a monster truck through the front of the showroom, crushing two cars to show he's got the power in the town.
01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:33.920
And again, this feels so untle.
01:03:34.239 --> 01:03:35.280
It's very unsubtle.
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.920
I mean the police, the police don't even come.
01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:46.239
But it's the whole idea that okay, obviously a monster truck is not subtle, but it's the fact that it's so heavy-handed in terms of plot.
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:51.519
Like a bunch of scenes ago, they turn up in a monster truck for no reason.
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.400
These are not e these are not easy things to drive around in.
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:56.320
They're not handy, they're not nippy.
01:03:56.480 --> 01:03:57.599
These are deep south.
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.480
They're just silly, they're just stupid, silly things.
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:10.079
So the idea that you know they've forced that scene in before where we see them driving one, just so they can force this scene in where they drive over a bunch of cars in it.
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:14.559
It's so like it's hitting us over the head.
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:15.119
Yeah.
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:16.559
It's we're being clobbered.
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:18.559
But it's meant to, it's not a subtle film.
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:19.199
It's not.
01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:21.679
I know we keep saying that, but it really isn't.
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:27.519
Brad Wesley says to Alyssa, you better get him out of town or he's going down.
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:32.239
Wesley says to the car dealership owner, You did I didn't think you'd turn on me.
01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:34.559
You've got to remember, this is my town.
01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:41.519
So, back at Dalton's place, Wade comes to visit and he says to him, You're a bit fucked up.
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:43.119
He said, You need to get out of here.
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:50.960
This is the bit where I think it's the start of this, where we see Dalton put in his like space outside his room using a punch bag.
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:51.360
Yeah.
01:04:51.679 --> 01:04:52.880
And no more Tai Chi.
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:53.519
Angry.
01:04:53.679 --> 01:04:54.880
It's not Tai Chi anymore.
01:04:55.199 --> 01:04:56.320
He's now pissed off.
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:57.039
He's pissed off.
01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:57.519
He's ironic.
01:04:58.320 --> 01:04:58.960
He's losing control.
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:07.039
He loses it because Wade's having a go at him and he throws a punch at Wade, his best friend, and Wade catches it and he says, You fucked up.
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:08.800
You need to get out of this place.
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:12.400
Later that night, Elizabeth arrives and says he has to go.
01:05:12.639 --> 01:05:18.559
Dalton says he's seen many a kind like Brad Wesley before and he's not going to let him beat him.
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:20.559
Because ultimately this guy is a bully.
01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:21.440
That's all it is.
01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:24.079
He's a bully with goons.
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:24.559
Yeah.
01:05:24.719 --> 01:05:25.679
There's an explosion.
01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:26.000
I know.
01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:27.599
It's Emmett's house.
01:05:28.159 --> 01:05:29.440
It's all on fire.
01:05:29.679 --> 01:05:32.880
Luckily, Dalton is topless to run in.
01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:34.000
That's so silly.
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:35.519
And he saves Emmett.
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:36.079
Yeah.
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:36.719
You hear that.
01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:38.079
Which is good because we like Emmett.
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:39.760
Yeah, Emmett, Emmett's a good guy.
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:41.760
You hear a motorbike.
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:46.320
Dalton with his super speed is able to run and catch up the guy with the motorbike.
01:05:46.559 --> 01:05:48.719
Knocks Jimmy off the motorbike.
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:49.519
Why is that?
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:50.639
Yeah.
01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:53.599
You see, Dalton can't can do everything.
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:54.480
Oh my god.
01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:55.840
Jimmy was laughing.
01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:58.400
Jimmy was laughing at the explosion.
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.760
So Dalton catches up to Him and takes him off the motorbike.
01:06:01.920 --> 01:06:04.639
And now we have a bare knuckle boxing fight.
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:08.639
Huge, probably the biggest, most violent fight of the film.
01:06:09.119 --> 01:06:10.239
Yeah, it's just, I don't know.
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:13.039
Again, at this point, I'm just like, another fight.
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:13.760
You know what I mean?
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.519
So I'm not I'm not ranking them.
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:17.119
They all just merge into one.
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:21.360
But in the other fights, you didn't get the immortal line of I used to fuck guys like you in prison.
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:22.159
Oh my god.
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:26.320
It's not funny, it's very old.
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:27.119
It's ridiculous.
01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:28.320
It's ridiculous.
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:32.239
We've got to see it for the ridiculousness of what it is.
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:35.679
So the fight goes, swings both ways.
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:40.400
You've got Dalton's winner at one point, Jimmy's winner at another point.
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:42.880
Jimmy ends up pulling out a gun.
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:45.039
Dalton kicks it out of his hand.
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:46.639
They carry on fighting.
01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:52.639
Next thing, Jimmy gets the gun again, goes to shoot Dalton, and Dalton rips his throat out and kills him.
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:55.760
He slits his throat.
01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.079
He he rips his throat with his hands.
01:06:58.400 --> 01:06:58.719
Does he?
01:06:58.880 --> 01:06:59.199
Yeah.
01:06:59.360 --> 01:07:00.400
Oh, I wasn't watching.
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:01.599
I just thought he slit his throat.
01:07:01.760 --> 01:07:03.199
No, he grabs it with his hands.
01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:04.719
Elizabeth's watching.
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:07.760
She's run over and she sees him rip the throat out.
01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:09.679
She's massively disappointing.
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:15.920
Dalton starts shouting, Wesley! Wesley! Fuck you!
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:17.760
Dalton has lost his shit.
01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:19.039
Yeah, it's the first time you see.
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:26.000
A cool, calm, chilled guy who only responds to threat is now the threat.
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:26.480
Yeah.
01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:28.719
And these this town has broken him.
01:07:28.880 --> 01:07:29.679
Yeah, totally.
01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:34.639
And it's just a shame because he was a nice guy, because we were told he was a nice guy, and now we're being told he's not a nice guy.
01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:36.400
So we just watch him murder someone.
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:41.280
The next day, Dalton arrives at the Double Deuce in his Mercedes.
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:43.039
Did you get the reference of that?
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:44.719
No, the car's passed me back.
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:46.960
It's ready for him to go because he's in his proper car.
01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:47.679
Oh, right, okay.
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:54.159
So I think I presume at this point his hand is noticing because he's realised what's gone on.
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:56.400
It's broken him, it's got to him.
01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:58.719
As he's in the bar, the phone starts ringing.
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:00.159
It's Brad Wesley.
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:05.440
And he says, You get to choose who it is, Elizabeth or Wade.
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:09.920
And then he flips a coin and he goes, I'm not going to tell ya.
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:13.679
Wade walks in, he's just had the shit beaten out of him.
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:20.000
You know, he's supposed to be this big cool bouncer, so they must have had some number of thugs have a go and him.
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:22.239
Dalton says, Right, it's time to get out of here.
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:27.279
Well, this is when he sees Wade as only being beaten up, he thinks, Oh my god, they're gonna go for Elizabeth.
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:28.399
Yeah.
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:35.760
And he says it's time to get out of here, and he goes and drives to the hospital and he says to Elizabeth, come on, pack your stuff, we're going.
01:08:36.159 --> 01:08:37.359
And Elizabeth refuses.
01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:38.239
Quite rightly.
01:08:39.439 --> 01:08:40.800
Why on earth would you go with him?
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:45.119
Dalton disappoints, returns to the bar, and it looks like Wade's asleep on the bar.
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.000
He says, Come on, Miho, come on, wake up, it's time to go.
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:55.199
And as he turns him over, there's a knife in his chest with a note saying it was Tails.
01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.399
Yeah, I mean, I did not care.
01:08:59.520 --> 01:08:59.840
I did.
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:00.399
Did you?
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:00.560
Yeah.
01:09:00.800 --> 01:09:01.680
Did you like Wade?
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:02.560
Yeah.
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:05.760
It's his best friend, and Dalton wouldn't have horrible best friends.
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:10.479
I just I I think overall this film struggled to make me care generally.
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:17.680
So I wasn't invested in any of the characters, but particularly this character, you know, he was done for me when he was being all pervy.
01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:22.720
I think if at any point they'd killed Dalton, I would have been sad because I liked Patrick Swayze.
01:09:22.800 --> 01:09:24.000
I didn't think Dalton was irrelevant.
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:25.439
Well I like Patrick Swayze.
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:29.840
Yeah, I don't yeah, I I yeah, this I was fine with this.
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:31.600
I could see that it was a bad thing for Dalton.
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:33.680
Yeah, he gets really upset.
01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:35.600
You can see he's crying and stuff.
01:09:35.840 --> 01:09:43.279
He pulls the knife out of Wade, which is horrible because it's in his best friend, and then drives to Brad Wesley's.
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:54.319
You see the car go at full speed to Brad Wesley's, the goons, and I have wrote the goons and they're all tooled up with guns and everything, and they start shooting at the car.
01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:57.039
The car flips and blows up.
01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:10.000
They walk over, you know Patrick Swayze, you know Dalton inside the car, but the knife that he took out of his best friend's chest, Wade, is it jammed to accelerate the car.
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:10.560
Yeah.
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:16.079
The guy whose knife it is pulls it out and hosts it back in his belt.
01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:21.199
So that's basically foreshadow of like Dalton's gonna know who it was who killed his friend.
01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:21.760
Okay.
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.560
I didn't pay, I didn't notice that, but yeah, okay.
01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:28.079
So Dalton takes out the thugs one by one.
01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:29.920
This was very light Man on Fire.
01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:31.840
He's like, right, have you had all of the stuff?
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:32.399
There we go.
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:34.239
Now we just need to kill you all one by one.
01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:36.079
He knocks them out.
01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:39.119
He kills the guy picked off one by one.
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:42.079
He kills the guy who killed Wade, the knife.
01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:42.239
Yeah.
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:45.359
He pulls the knife out after the fight and stabs him.
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:48.720
Then we start seeing Brad Wesley walking around with a gun.
01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:58.399
It's basically like sort of they're both in the house, kind of not sure where the other people are, walking down like round corners and then being able to go out and then going around another corner.
01:10:58.479 --> 01:10:59.600
It's all very tense.
01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:05.920
Brad Wesley gives a speech about killing Wade and compares it to Dalton killing Jimmy.
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:07.920
An eye for an eye, basically.
01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:13.920
Wesley starts looking for Dalton, and Dalton's hid behind a bear because there's that many.
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:16.079
We need to explain.
01:11:16.159 --> 01:11:21.600
They're in a house or in a room at this point where there's so many stuffed animals.
01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:23.039
And to hide behind.
01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:24.560
Yeah, big animals.
01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:31.119
It obviously shows that he's a hunter and all that stuff, but this is the scene where he is now hunting Dalton.
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:39.199
So he he manages to shoot Dalton in the shoulder, and then they have a fight, he knocks the gun out of Wesley's hand.
01:11:39.359 --> 01:11:44.079
So Wesley gets a spear, because obviously everyone has a spear in a room.
01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:44.720
Standard.
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:46.560
Starts hitting Dalton with it.
01:11:46.640 --> 01:11:55.760
Now this is one bit where I will say the the fight with Dalton and Brad Wesley, Dalton would just kick the shit out of him.
01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:58.560
Is it because he's like a broken man now?
01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:03.439
So he hasn't he's not in control, he can't use his super duper clever skills.
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:06.079
He's just lashing out in rage.
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:07.119
And also he's been shot.
01:12:07.279 --> 01:12:09.039
And he's yeah, he's bleeding and all that stuff.
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:12.479
Because I was gonna say Brad Wesley's quite old, but he's probably about 30.
01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:13.359
I don't even want to know.
01:12:13.520 --> 01:12:14.319
I'm gonna find out.
01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:15.600
I think we should find out.
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:16.560
No, he's 59.
01:12:16.640 --> 01:12:17.760
I keep thinking it's 1989.
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:18.319
He's 59.
01:12:18.560 --> 01:12:19.840
So he was 59 during the film.
01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:21.039
1989, he wasn't.
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:22.479
So he's an old guy in the film, right?
01:12:22.560 --> 01:12:24.479
We can finally say there's an old guy in the film.
01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:32.880
Dalton takes the spear out, he snaps it, and then he gets Brad Wesley into a position on a chair where he can kill him and he steps back.
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:35.600
He can see Brad Wesley shitting himself.
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.680
It feels like he's able to still exert the tiniest bit of control after all.
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:43.520
Yeah, which is a relief after all that Tai Chi and philosophy.
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:49.680
So as he backs away, Dalton turns his back on him, and Brad Wesley picks up the gun.
01:12:49.920 --> 01:13:00.640
He's about to shoot him, and then all the town's businessmen come in with shotguns and start shooting Brad Wesley to a violent, vicious death.
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:02.960
It's a little bit murder on the Orient Express at this point.
01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:03.760
They all do it.
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:06.079
Yeah, they all they all shoot them.
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:10.159
Red's there, the Frank, the old guy, club owner's there.
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:10.960
Old guy.
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:12.239
Emmett is there.
01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:13.039
Oh lovely Emmett.
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:18.720
So a load of people we've met, the car dealers, ship owners there, and they've all taken out Brad Wesley.
01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:22.960
He's shot to death and gone through a glass coffee table.
01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:25.840
And then they say, This is our town, and don't you forget it.
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:26.159
Yeah.
01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:28.560
Next thing you hear, police sirens.
01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:33.520
I mean, throughout all of the violence in this film, do you never see the police?
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:37.600
But in a mansion in the middle of nowhere, suddenly the police are there.
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:42.159
I mean, I guess symbolically, as soon as Wesley's dead, the police aren't being controlled anymore.
01:13:42.319 --> 01:13:42.479
Maybe.
01:13:42.800 --> 01:13:43.760
So now they're free to come.
01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:44.159
But yeah.
01:13:44.399 --> 01:13:49.760
Red goes and disposes of the guns, comes back, the sheriff walks in and goes, What's happened?
01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:52.640
All the businessmen go, I didn't see nothing.
01:13:52.800 --> 01:13:53.760
Did you see anything?
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:54.960
I didn't see nothing.
01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:59.039
And then one of the thugs, the the nice thugs, the largest guy.
01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:01.520
I mean, nice thug is an oxymoron.
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:04.560
No, but he goes, I was under a bear.
01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:06.640
Didn't he say a polar bear fell on me?
01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:07.920
A bear fell on me, yeah.
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:09.760
Yeah.
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:13.279
So the next night is a double deuce, all is well.
01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:16.640
It's really good, nice bar, good atmosphere.
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:27.199
Then we cut to a shot of a naked Patrick Swayze jumping into the lake with a naked Elizabeth and then cut back to the bar, the music, the end.
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:35.119
Yeah, because even when the bar is full and happy and no one's throwing chairs, he's still not the guy to go to that bar.
01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:37.039
He's the guy to kiss somebody in a pond naked.
01:14:37.199 --> 01:14:37.439
Exactly.
01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:38.079
That's what it's about.
01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:40.960
But it shows he's set down roots, he's happy.
01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:48.399
So, what do you think of the film?
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:51.680
Okay, I feel really conflicted.
01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:53.920
It's not a straight I hate it.
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:54.880
It's not that.
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:57.359
And the reason it's not that is because Patrick Swayze.
01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:00.479
You know, as I explained at length at the beginning.
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:07.439
Didn't hate it, but I really couldn't work it out, and so I've basically written I've written a pros and a cons list.
01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:07.760
Okay.
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:09.520
I felt the easiest way to do it.
01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:13.359
But first of all, before that, I didn't say this at the beginning.
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:18.399
When I was talking to somebody this week, they were saying, or last week, they were saying, What's the film you're doing next time?
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:20.880
And I said, Oh, it's Roadhouse.
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:24.560
And this guy said, Isn't that a porno?
01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:25.520
Right?
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:27.920
And he did he hadn't seen it, but that's what he'd heard.
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:29.359
That's what he knew of from the past.
01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:30.239
It's a porno.
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:31.920
And I was like, I don't think so.
01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:33.760
I don't think so.
01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:34.720
It's maybe what's going on.
01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:37.119
Next week filming Demi does Dallas.
01:15:37.600 --> 01:15:45.439
I was like, I don't think it is, but I completely understand where the miss mistake has been made.
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:48.079
Because it's so soft porn vibing.
01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:49.760
I think I think whoever it was.
01:15:50.960 --> 01:15:55.039
I think whoever you spoke to maybe have got mixed up with porkies, because porkies is a bar.
01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:57.439
No, they haven't, because no, they haven't.
01:15:57.680 --> 01:15:59.119
I can see what he meant.
01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:00.079
I can see what he meant.
01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:11.119
Because basically, it isn't a porn film, but what it is, is it's soft, porny vibes, it's low rent production values.
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:14.239
Nobody in this is famous except for Patrick Swayze.
01:16:14.560 --> 01:16:21.920
And I'm gonna say that well, okay, Kelly Lynch is in Cocktail and the woman who plays Carrie Ann is in Gilmore Girls, but like Sam Elliott.
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:25.920
Sam Elliott, I think I think he could very easily be in porn.
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:29.680
I think he he acted this like it was a porn film.
01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:46.079
I just think there's something about the whole thing, it's so obvious and so cheesy and so lacking nuance that it might as well be an like a hunky naked guy turning up with a builder's tool belt and a hard hat going, you wanted your washing machine fixed.
01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:49.760
You know, it feels that level of nuance, right?
01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:52.880
So that's where I think the maybe his mistake came in.
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:59.039
But what I also thought was it's I said to you before, it's oh, you bought another adult film, good for you, it's an 18, this is great.
01:16:59.279 --> 01:17:01.119
This is not an adult film to me.
01:17:01.279 --> 01:17:04.000
It is, it's an 18, it's got sex, it's got violence.
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:26.640
Obviously, it's not made for children, but this is the exact type of film I imagine that a 13-year-old boy has heard about, and then and I'm going back in time now, someone has it on video at school and it gets passed around because it's got boobs in, and it's like a 13-year-old boy film, it's it just feels like it's for little young people.
01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:40.159
It's interesting, it's not sanctioned by parents, not that they should be watching it necessarily, but you know what it's like when you're that age and you hear about something that's got some element of sex in it, it's like, oh, everyone knows about it, everyone passes it around, it's the talk of the school.
01:17:40.319 --> 01:17:42.640
That's what this film feels like, the talk of the school.
01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:45.279
See, I forgot it had boobs in.
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:45.680
Really?
01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:47.279
Completely, completely forgot.
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:48.479
I hate that we're saying boobs.
01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:51.119
Um tits, yeah, tits in.
01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:56.000
It's tits in this film, but that's why I would say in life, because I can reclaim the word as a woman.
01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:58.000
I mean it's breasts, really, isn't it?
01:17:58.079 --> 01:17:59.520
I guess that's the official word.
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:00.159
I don't know.
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:02.000
Well, I forgot that it had that.
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:12.800
I knew it was violent, I knew it was like over-the-top violence, it's not violent where you know you're looking away from the screen where you know people are getting stabbed or stuff like that.
01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:19.760
It's like like as you said, it's like a light violence comedy near near the nears.
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:20.880
It's almost slaps.
01:18:21.359 --> 01:18:25.359
Yeah, in some bits, but I just like the film.
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:27.119
I just think it's fun.
01:18:27.279 --> 01:18:30.880
It's you can put it on, switch off, and just enjoy.
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:33.119
So, do you want my pros and cons?
01:18:33.359 --> 01:18:33.760
Go on.
01:18:34.079 --> 01:18:35.279
Here are my pros.
01:18:35.760 --> 01:18:36.880
I wasn't bored.
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:38.399
That's interesting.
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:41.279
I might even watch it again at some point.
01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:42.800
That's very interesting.
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:50.399
If I'm really at a loose end, I'm not trying to be funny, but if I'm really like just like you say, just want to zone out with something stupid.
01:18:50.640 --> 01:18:51.680
Yeah, maybe.
01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:56.079
I could watch 1980s era Patrick Swayze all the time.
01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:56.479
Right.
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:57.680
And probably other eras.
01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:01.039
I would guess that's probably why you would re-watch this again.
01:19:01.279 --> 01:19:01.680
Probably.
01:19:01.920 --> 01:19:04.720
Any scene he's in it's elevated because of him.
01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:07.680
I just, you know, he does that brooding thing really well.
01:19:07.840 --> 01:19:08.960
And there was a plot.
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:10.399
There is a plot to this film.
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:11.439
Very simple one.
01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:13.439
It's simple, but there's still a plot, you know.
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:25.439
It's a guy, a new guy walks into town, it's all like you say, a western, sorts out the bad guys, and you know, there's happily ever after bar fights and stuff gets the girl, all that stuff, but there's a plot.
01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:27.119
Okay, the cons.
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:31.920
So I've already said it's naff, cheesy, just just yeah, low rent.
01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:33.359
Yeah, it's supposed to be cheesy, I think.
01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:40.880
I didn't find it an enjoyably nostalgic place to be this type of 80s where it's all yeah, soft porn, naked women.
01:19:41.199 --> 01:19:45.359
It's just no female character is is fully rounded, even Dr.
01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:45.760
Clay.
01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:47.279
There's no Carrianne.
01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:49.760
What the what was the point of her?
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:50.560
She can sing.
01:19:51.039 --> 01:19:52.640
What was what was the point of that character?
01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:54.239
Ridiculous, absolute waste of time.
01:19:54.319 --> 01:19:55.680
There was no reason for that character.
01:19:55.840 --> 01:20:00.079
She didn't have a story arc and she didn't push anyone else's story along.
01:20:00.239 --> 01:20:05.039
It's like they were I I assume there was a whole bunch of deleted scenes or something, I don't know, because it just made no sense.
01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:06.079
Like she got cast.
01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:08.239
Why pay an actress money to do that?
01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:09.199
It was unnecessary.
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:13.600
She had to tell him that he's a dead man because he's anyone could have done that anyway.
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:17.039
But yeah, I didn't get why she I just didn't get the point of her character.
01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:25.840
Yeah, the the tone was constantly changing, one minute's carry on, then it's a gangster thing with real stakes, you know, it just took ages to settle.
01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:31.439
Obviously, I was furious at the blatant stealing of Dirty Dancing's iconic moments.
01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:39.760
And if I felt all the way through, it's like they know they've got a crap script, they've known they're making a crap film, so they've just got to do anything they can to get an audience.
01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:45.279
So naked women nick things from Dirty Dancing, throw in another fight with some more.
01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:50.960
But do you think the audience for this would be the people who've watched Dirty Dancing?
01:20:51.439 --> 01:20:53.039
I don't know what the audience is.
01:20:53.359 --> 01:20:54.560
So I don't think so.
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:58.079
I don't think it made sense that they nicked Dirty Dancing.
01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:01.199
Because you're right, this is not the only thing is Patrick Swayze.
01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:04.640
I assume that they think, well, we've got Patrick Swayze, so that's gonna bring the women in.
01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:08.079
I think that's what they thought, even though this film is not ideal.
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:12.640
There are no great female characters in this, there's no one's the female characters are so two-dimensional.
01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:17.760
This is not made with any respect for women in mind, giving them something interesting to watch.
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:25.039
It's literally we'll we'll get Swayze to show his arse and we will throw in a couple of references, and that'll keep the women happy.
01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:26.319
It's so patronising.
01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:28.000
There's also too much lycra.
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:29.760
Yeah, that's my main taste.
01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:30.880
There's a lot of lycra.
01:21:31.279 --> 01:21:33.439
But those are some of pros and cons.
01:21:33.680 --> 01:21:38.159
One of the things I I will say, because like I do have cons of this movie, and I enjoy it.
01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:44.560
You touched upon this the fight scenes, there's too many of them within the movie to be impactful.
01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:47.760
You just you just blend into one, you know.
01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:56.960
They could have done it where there's big fights here at the beginning of the show, bad it is, then then done a bit of more story, then another big fight scene.
01:21:57.039 --> 01:22:05.680
But it's like fight after fight after fight, less fights would have been more impactful and still tell the same story, but I do enjoy it for what it is.
01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:07.840
It is just uh what can I watch?
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:11.119
I'm in the mood for something just a bit cheesy and a stick road out.
01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:20.399
So I what I think is that if, for example, they'd cast Vin Diesel as Dalton, I'm just picking up random names of BB Gas.
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:24.000
Or Arnie or Stallone or someone from that.
01:22:24.399 --> 01:22:25.439
Stubig, yeah, go on.
01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:32.720
But on that era, if they cast those people, this would I would not I would be so cross with you for making me watch this.
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:34.399
This wouldn't have any appeal at all.
01:22:34.479 --> 01:22:36.239
The appeal is all Patrick Swayze.
01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:40.079
I also there's little plot points that I just find unbelievable.
01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:48.239
Like the minute Dalton turns up needing to be sewn up from a bar fight and carries his medical records around, the no the doctor's not going and turning up at the bar.
01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:49.680
That seems so implausible to me.
01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:51.119
Well, it's so simple.
01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:54.319
So watching this back for the podcast, I agree.
01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:55.199
Yeah, it's so sick.
01:22:55.359 --> 01:23:02.479
Because I was thinking, like, he's cut, she told he's told her that he's a cooler and then he sorts bars out.
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:06.079
She would already know the double deuce is not a good place to be.
01:23:07.920 --> 01:23:09.359
So why would she go there?
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:13.760
But if you can suspend this belief, you just do it and it works.
01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:16.880
I mean, to be fair, Diane Keaton inherited a baby.
01:23:16.960 --> 01:23:17.600
So we're not gonna be able to do it.
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:19.439
Well, yeah, I will I will give you.
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:21.760
That story took me with it.
01:23:21.920 --> 01:23:23.439
This story doesn't take me with it.
01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:28.560
There's too many times where I'm watching this out of the story because I'm just in disbelief at what I'm watching.
01:23:28.720 --> 01:23:31.119
So that there's too many, there's too many plot holes for this.
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:33.039
There's too many production holes.
01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:37.520
You know, the police don't come at any point when Brad Wesley's driving.
01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:41.680
That makes sense because the police are scared of Bradley, he's buying off the police.
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:44.479
The only turn you only hear sirens when he's dead.
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:45.920
That I think is actually symbolically.
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:51.359
I think it's symbolically good that.
01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:57.840
You know, the police are nowhere near this town because they know then they're not in control that it's it's Brad Wesley.
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:03.439
So when Dalton turns up, he is like the new guy in town, the cowboy, who is going to sort out the baddies.
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:05.039
The sheriff's hiding, you know?
01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:08.399
But this I like the symbolism of the second the sheriff is dead.
01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:09.119
Not the sheriff.
01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:09.680
The sheriff.
01:24:09.920 --> 01:24:10.319
The baddie.
01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:12.239
Who's killed the sheriff?
01:24:13.760 --> 01:24:17.600
That uh Dalton has sorted out the guy, then the sirens are heard.
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:18.800
I just think that's a nice symbolism.
01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:23.039
But you're right, this film is not bothered by other symbolisms, it's too obvious.
01:24:23.600 --> 01:24:28.560
Okay, so I said before that I think 13-year-old boys would have been wanting to find this, and this would have been the audience.
01:24:28.720 --> 01:24:30.479
It's not just boys, it's girls.
01:24:30.720 --> 01:24:41.520
So I remember, and it's probably different now because of the internet, but back in the day, you would all know the books or the films that had a bit of sex in that you'd all be trying to watch, right?
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:45.119
It's sleepovers or someone's older brother or sister would lend.
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:49.840
So, for example, Basic Instinct came out when I was like 13, 14.
01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:54.399
Kelly Lynch turned down the Shannon Stone role in Basic Instinct.
01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:56.640
I read that on her IMD movie trivia.
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:58.239
But what I'll do is I'll get back to my point.
01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:03.920
So the the you remember, well, you're a little bit older than me, but you would have had the same things at school.
01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:05.439
There'd be something there if we're new.
01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:12.399
It's the first time in Basic Instinct, or for example, Nine and a Half Weeks.
01:25:12.479 --> 01:25:14.000
That was a bit before my teenagers.
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:15.600
Bit before mine, as well.
01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:22.960
But it's that type of film that's not the best film ever, but it gets watched by people who are too young for it, but they know about it by reputation.
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.119
It's girls and boys, and there's books as well.
01:25:25.279 --> 01:25:27.279
Jude Jilly Cooper, massive.
01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:32.479
You know, those were just sex, sex-ridden bunk busters, but you would be able to see them in the library.
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:35.760
Or the teenage book by Judy Bloom called Forever.
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:39.039
I mean, so many people read Forever because they knew there was a sex scene in it.
01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:44.960
And it's actually a really beautiful, really sweet first-time sex scene, and it's done nicely.
01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:48.319
It's not like porny, but you know, you knew that there was sex in this book.
01:25:48.479 --> 01:26:00.079
So the point is that this kind of film, I'm guessing, because I have to put myself in the back in the day, would have been a film that teenagers, young teenagers would have known about and would have watched.
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:03.359
And what depresses me about that is it's so male gaze.
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:05.680
It's so male gaze.
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:11.039
None of the female characters are rounded or written with any depth or any interest.
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:14.479
They are just there for this sort of two-dimensional what they represent.
01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:21.600
Mostly they represent it's an ass, or they represent a love interest, which is so cardboard and wooden, it's untrue.
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:40.239
So the idea that teenage or young child young teenage or old children who are girls would see this sort of film, and there's a lot of films like this in the 80s, don't get me wrong, would see this as their representation for what sex is when they were looking for something salacious and silly on sleepovers, depresses me no end.
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:46.079
Because this does not show anything good about being having sexy times when you're a little bit older.
01:26:46.159 --> 01:26:50.399
This doesn't for a woman it doesn't, it does not show that at all, it just shows objectification.
01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:54.079
Well, I just thought you had to put on these arms of mine and you were guaranteed sex.
01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:56.479
No one else is allowed to ever use that song.
01:26:56.560 --> 01:26:58.159
That is Johnny and Baby's song.
01:26:58.239 --> 01:26:59.119
Nobody else is allowed to.
01:26:59.840 --> 01:27:02.159
If you put that song on, it was guaranteed.
01:27:02.640 --> 01:27:05.439
No, I'm not having it, and I'm so cross that this film has done that.
01:27:05.680 --> 01:27:08.560
So it is a period piece because this could not be.
01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:10.159
I mean, I'm surprised they've remade it.
01:27:10.239 --> 01:27:11.039
I can't believe it.
01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:12.239
Do you know what?
01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:13.920
Take out the Conor McGregor bit.
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:14.880
I don't know who that is.
01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:15.920
Stop saying it.
01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:19.760
Who's it's so just bear with me.
01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:23.760
Jake Gillenhall does a really, really good film.
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:24.960
Is he playing Dalton?
01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:38.000
He's playing Dalton character, and he's very similar, but in in the new one, he's an ex-UFC fighter, and he's he's like Dalton, he's dead calm, he's you know, doesn't fight just for the sake of it.
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:44.239
And there's there's a really good scene in it where the thugs have got him outside and he goes, Is the hospital near?
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:52.880
And the thugs are like, Well, and he's like, Well, I need to know because if you're gonna have to go to the a the A and A, you you know, I I need to know it's that near.
01:27:53.279 --> 01:28:00.800
And then he beats them all up, and then the next scene is them driving them to the A and A, and as he goes over bumps, they're like, Oh, ow, no, it's it's F it's funny.
01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:01.039
Yeah.
01:28:01.199 --> 01:28:02.000
It's a really good film.
01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:03.119
It's on Amazon.
01:28:03.359 --> 01:28:07.039
I know, but it's not a literally I you couldn't pay me to watch it.
01:28:07.279 --> 01:28:08.880
I liked this because of Patrick.
01:28:09.119 --> 01:28:09.680
Patrick.
01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:11.279
And I do you know what as well?
01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:15.760
I think the other overwhelming feeling I have I had when I started to watch this.
01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:18.000
I'm just gutted he's died.
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:18.479
Yeah.
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:21.279
Because he was he uh he did c he's carried this film.
01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:27.439
Like I say, the other films I've watched of his that aren't dirty dancing are very few and far between, but I have seen him in other roles.
01:28:27.760 --> 01:28:35.920
But the I don't know, dirty dancing, it's so part of my life, and I just it's uh he's always alive in dirty dancing, he's always alive in my heart with dirty dancing.
01:28:36.239 --> 01:28:39.680
Then you watch this and you remember, oh yeah, he did other roles, he did other things.
01:28:39.920 --> 01:28:43.039
He didn't get to do enough of they didn't get to be so sad.
01:28:43.359 --> 01:28:47.680
That's my big like sadness about Patrick Swayze as a whole.
01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:51.039
He never got elevated to that next level.
01:28:51.439 --> 01:28:53.520
I would have loved to see him do so many other things.
01:28:53.680 --> 01:29:02.880
Yeah, I mean, maybe that was his choice, maybe just want to do the odd film, make it a bunch of stuff, but I in terms of stuff that I would want to choose to watch.
01:29:03.039 --> 01:29:06.720
I mean, to be fair, I'd watch, like I say, anything with him in really because this proves it.
01:29:06.880 --> 01:29:09.039
Because I did enjoy this because of him.
01:29:09.199 --> 01:29:14.079
Yeah, we might say in spite of the film, you know, you you touched upon a few films before.
01:29:14.239 --> 01:29:17.760
He's in Dirty Dancing, Roadhouse, Ghost.
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:25.119
To me, there is big ones he was in, you know, and I felt like he should have had the longer run of big movies.
01:29:25.279 --> 01:29:27.199
He's a good actor, point break as well.
01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:28.319
He's a good actor.
01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:30.640
Do you want to hear some thoughts from other people?
01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:32.479
I would love to hear those thoughts.
01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:37.439
Right, so haphazardstuff.com, this is all on the show notes, these links.
01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:41.359
They did a review of it and they talked about how it didn't really do well in cinemas.
01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:42.880
But this is their quote.
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:50.479
Like many other films to be christened a cult film, Roadhouse got a lifeline from VHS Rentals and cable television airings.
01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:54.880
Folks started tuning into it and discovering for themselves the stranger lore the film has.
01:29:55.039 --> 01:30:02.560
As Roger Ebert wrote about it at the time of its release, Roadhouse exists right on the edge between the good bad movie and the merely bad.
01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:06.399
I hesitate to recommend it because so much depends on the ironic vision of the viewer.
01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:11.359
This is not a good movie, but viewed in the right frame of mind, it is not a boring one either.
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:11.760
Yeah.
01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:14.000
And I would agree with Roger Ebert there.
01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:16.000
It's not good, but it's not boring.
01:30:16.239 --> 01:30:23.760
Yeah, it's I don't feel like watching this film at a cinema would elevate the viewing experience of this film.
01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:27.840
I think this film is comfortable at home on TV.
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:38.239
And there's not a lot of films I'll say that about, but I think like just watching it at home is equally as enjoyable as seeing it on the big screen.
01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:43.680
It's it's just it's a TV movie to me, but a good one, it's a good TV movie.
01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:45.359
It's apporing.
01:30:45.680 --> 01:30:47.600
It's so naff, it's so naff.
01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:48.560
Anyway, right.
01:30:49.359 --> 01:30:56.479
The review from haphazardstuff.com also talks a bit about you know where Dalton's talking to staff and giving his three rules, being nice, whatever.
01:30:56.720 --> 01:30:58.319
And this is what they say about that.
01:30:58.560 --> 01:31:04.479
It's such a comical scene that's played so sincerely straight, which makes it so deliciously entertaining.
01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:12.399
It's almost like how the actors in Airplane would play the comedy completely straight and not go for the laughs or acknowledge the absurd situation that was unravelling around them.
01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:14.960
That sort of Roadhouse is a central being.
01:31:15.119 --> 01:31:19.359
It becomes such a ridiculous story, but the film never lets on that it knows it.
01:31:19.600 --> 01:31:26.960
Now, whether that was the intention and the filmmakers were conscious of the silliness or actually believed that this was a serious action film, I don't know.
01:31:27.279 --> 01:31:28.640
And I don't know either.
01:31:28.800 --> 01:31:32.399
I constantly didn't understand the tone they were aiming for.
01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:33.680
It was confusing to me.
01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:40.000
I don't think it was deliberate well, it could have been deliberate, but if it was deliberate, it was done badly, or it wasn't deliberate, and it was just all over the place.
01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:40.560
I don't know.
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:41.039
I don't know.
01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:50.239
I think I think it's supposed to be light-hearted, look at the cooler and bouncers and stuff within a story of a guy who controls the town.
01:31:50.399 --> 01:32:02.159
I don't think it's meant to be overtly serious, it's not meant to be overtly violent, but they levelled it up screen-wise with an 18th TV because there's a lot of nakedness.
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:08.560
There is one scene of violence, and that's where the throat is ripped out, and that's it.
01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:11.279
I think Swayze's playing it absolutely straight.
01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:12.399
He's in a serious film.
01:32:12.560 --> 01:32:12.880
Yeah.
01:32:13.119 --> 01:32:14.239
He is taking this seriously.
01:32:14.479 --> 01:32:16.640
The film is serious, but it's not serious at the same time.
01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:22.079
But he's not playing any none of his fights are for laughs, he's doing it properly.
01:32:22.239 --> 01:32:25.359
He's not doing comedy, but other people around him are.
01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:28.159
And whether that's a decision, I don't know.
01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:30.319
Who I don't know if that's was intentional.
01:32:30.479 --> 01:32:41.840
If he was you look at the the scenes of the pool party where Brad Wesley's got the tall guy, the really tall guy, and he's gone, don't you just love this guy and he's dancing really stupid and stuff?
01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:43.119
So there is meant to be laughs.
01:32:43.359 --> 01:32:44.000
That's not funny.
01:32:44.079 --> 01:32:44.880
That isn't funny.
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:48.640
That shows that Brad Wesley's horrible, he's got these people he's controlling.
01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:49.920
That's not a funny scene.
01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:53.600
I'm talking more like the slapstick nature of some of the brawls.
01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:55.600
I don't know, I just I don't know.
01:32:55.680 --> 01:32:58.000
Like it's re I just I found it confused.
01:32:58.399 --> 01:33:00.479
There's a web no, there's not.
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:09.840
There's a podcast that I haven't listened to, so I've no idea beyond what the show notes are, what they say, but I'm quoting the show notes.
01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:10.399
Okay.
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:18.640
It's called uh it's by it's Macintosh and Maud, and they do they did a summer of Swayze bunch of podcasts, I guess.
01:33:18.800 --> 01:33:20.880
And so what they put on their homepage.
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We're closing out our summer of Swayze with quite possibly the single greatest bad movie ever made.
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Nine total bar fights, two smoking hot male leads, I don't know who the second male lead is, a monster truck crashing through a building, introspective male bonding and speeches.
01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:38.479
This movie really does have it all.
01:33:38.640 --> 01:33:48.239
There's a reason this is now a cult classic, because despite its reputation and despite the incredible sharpness of this movie's cheese factor, there's a pretty great movie at its core.
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:50.960
And I I kept coming up against that.
01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:56.720
I don't think it's a pretty great movie, but I do think it has an incredibly sharp incredible sharp cheese factor.
01:33:56.800 --> 01:33:58.079
I think it's cheesy.
01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:00.560
Nine two smoking hot male leads.
01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:01.359
Who's the other male lead?
01:34:01.520 --> 01:34:02.560
Are they talking about Wade?
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About Sam Elliott?
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:07.039
Probably because there's no other male lead, is there, really?
01:34:07.279 --> 01:34:08.000
It's not Frank.
01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:12.000
Who you decided is like 107.
01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:14.479
It's not Brad Wesley.
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:15.279
No, I'm not sure.
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:16.800
So maybe maybe it is Wade.
01:34:17.039 --> 01:34:17.840
I've struggled with him.
01:34:17.920 --> 01:34:18.560
Yeah.
01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:27.119
Finally, this so I've been reading all about this film, obviously, clicking things that I've not necessarily quoted, but I've been read a lot about it.
01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:33.039
And loads of people kept referring to how it's been constantly played on cable all the time.
01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:37.439
It the way they refer to it, like it's always on telly, reminded me a bit of Hot Fuzz.
01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:41.600
You know how there's a period of time where you could not turn on the TV at like nights.
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:42.399
That is this film, yeah.
01:34:42.640 --> 01:34:44.000
Hot Fuzz was regularly on.
01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:46.640
So it feels like that's it's the US version of that.
01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:52.880
So Steve Polanski, in a review in 2024, he gives it two and a half stars.
01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:58.960
I to be fair, I didn't know down how many it was out of, it could be out of one, and that would be an amazing review, or it could be out of a hundred and it'd be terrible.
01:34:59.199 --> 01:35:08.560
But he says, from September 2019 to July 2020, so that's like less than a year, Roadhouse had played 83 times across ten different networks.
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So that's full on.
01:35:10.239 --> 01:35:10.640
Wow.
01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:11.600
That is a lot.
01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:14.159
And then his quote So it's still making money to this day.
01:35:14.479 --> 01:35:15.520
Well, this is the quote.
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It's a movie so outlandish that you have to accept it on its own terms, which I did.
01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:23.439
Then I grew fatigued by its archetypal characters.
01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:33.039
After that, I was entertained by a monster truck crashing through a four dealer, followed by the climax at Wesley's house, inside of which had more animals taxidermied than the number aboard Noah's Ark.
01:35:33.279 --> 01:35:35.359
Maybe this is a good movie and I'm underrating it.
01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:38.640
The good news, I'll have ample opportunities to re-watch it.
01:35:39.039 --> 01:35:45.920
I think the thing is this does tread the line very carefully between good movie and bad movie.
01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:47.039
So good it's bad.
01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:47.359
Yeah.
01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:48.000
And so bad.
01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:50.239
So bad it's good and bad.
01:35:50.479 --> 01:35:50.960
Yeah, yeah.
01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:55.760
Oh, it is that, you know, is this in my top 20 movies of all time?
01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:56.399
No.
01:35:57.039 --> 01:36:00.960
But do I enjoy this film for the silliness of what it is?
01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:02.079
Yeah, I do.
01:36:05.279 --> 01:36:07.920
Next week, it's your turn to choose a film.
01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:09.760
How you decide what it's going to be.
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:10.479
Yep.
01:36:10.720 --> 01:36:16.159
And we are now going into new terrain for you and for the pod.
01:36:17.279 --> 01:36:17.600
Okay.
01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:18.960
Subtitles.
01:36:19.119 --> 01:36:19.680
Oh shit.
01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:20.560
Subtitles.
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Brace yourself.
01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:28.239
It is a beautiful film and it doesn't appear to be a beautiful film for a lot of the time you're watching it.
01:36:28.479 --> 01:36:30.000
So I'm gonna give you that little.
01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:34.800
So this is like Roadhouse is a good movie, but it's a bad movie while you're watching it.
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:45.279
This is a film that is set in East Berlin in the 1980s during the GDR, the German Democratic Republic.
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And it is called The Lives of Others.
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:58.000
And this is you can have your opinions, which I'm sure you'll share next week, but this is a film that is with huge renown.
01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:01.359
This one best Oscar for foreign language film.
01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:21.039
It's massive in terms of you know, considering it's a German subtitled film, it is massive and it's brilliant, and it's a really engrossing story that I think you will enjoy once you get past some subtitle stuff, and it's also beautiful, but it seems on first glance that it's bleak as fuck.
01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:22.960
Okay, but it's really good, really, really good.
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Can't wait to go.
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I'm at NikkiBomb.com or you can look for the Lisa McCullough stories online.
01:37:30.479 --> 01:37:30.960
How about you?
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I can be found on Toffee Zaros on YouTube or Phil Timon on TikTok.
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Thanks for listening.
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Until next time, bye-bye.
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Thank you, and see you later.