What Do The Broncos Have Left To Prove?

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You know, Patrick, we're widely regarded as the greatest Broncos
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podcast available, which is saying something because there's like seventy
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three thousand available and so to rank at the top,
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it's a huge honor. But you know, people will ask us,
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you know, why are you considered to be the best
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Broncos podcast? You know, Mario Vetanzi and Patrick Keyoti so
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actually asked Cam Newton for his input on this, and
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this is what Cam had to say about us.
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Because you don't just have two stars.
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That's a plant. You got two planets, not two stars.
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Two planets planets which are famously smaller and less bright
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than stars, and obviously less bright than Cam Newton. That's
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he's not the tune adjustment.
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Info switcher. I hit the rose to that hit up,
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I hit the stage, leave with money.
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That's a stick up, right, Patrick, Let's go down to
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brass tacks. We're just gonna jump right into this thing. Wow.
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Obviously Broncos number one team in the AFC. If they
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win two of their remaining three games, regardless of which
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two they are, they secure the number one seed, which
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is huge considering they are the only undefeated team at
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home in the entire league. So if they maintain home
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field advantage throughout the playoffs, well, Pat, there's a really,
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really good chance that this team could end up in
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the super Bowl, something that we told fans was not
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only plausible but probable just four months ago. But I
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want to know Pat, like we we we know about
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the Bone Knicks and Courtland Sutton, Patrick'sertanna, Nick Benito and
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Jonathan Cooper and all the big names. What I want
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us to do. I want us to go back and
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forth a little bit and discuss briefly some unsung heroes
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on this team. I'm gonna start, and I think that
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you will agree with me with not just the fullback Patrick,
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but the fullest here we go, that the Broncos have
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had since Howard Griffith, my man Adams Sprentice, I said,
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since Howard Griffith.
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So Mikeon just fucking died. Mike Burton just like who
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his last two years of impact have been impactors. Boy,
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if you don't.
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Stop, listen, Okay, this is we are not gonna poop.
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This is not a poop pooh segment. Okay, we are
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simply we are simply celebrating the stud incarnate that is
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Adam Prentiss and Jack Key. What a fantastic job he
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has done for the Broncos this year. He like every
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time that he touches the ball, which is rarely aside
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from the goofy ass fourth down play call, which I
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you know, didn't love and there wasn't a lot he
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could do, but he makes things happen like a very
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very serviceable receiver out of the backfield. We've seen him
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catch a few passes out in the flat, turn him
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up field with shocking athleticism for a man his size.
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We saw an eighteen yard run that should have been
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a touchdown if he just practiced his stiff arm a
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little bit. But the longest rush that he's had since
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high school. And of course the run and pass blocking.
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I mean, when he pops, he pops right. But I
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think one of the most important things about a fullback
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is you don't notice him unless you're looking to notice him.
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It's kind of like the offensive line, right like, if
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you get a big block that springs the guy, then
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you're really going to focus on that, on that offensive lineman.
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And it feels this same with full back. I don't
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think that he's given up a pressure. He's been excellent
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picking up blitzes. He's been excellent in run blocking and
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the opportunities that he gets, Like you want to talk
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about maximizing the amount of time that you're getting on
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the field, man, but slapped to Adam Prentiss because he
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has been fantastic. And I'm glad that you brought up
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Burton because Burton was a tried and true full back
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and even though he should have been a bigger part
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of the offense. Something that you know, I shouted from
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the mountaintops repeatedly on the show last year.
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They brought down last year.
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Last year, Okay, okay, basically off the street. And Adam
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Prentiss has not missed a beat. And Adam Prentiss has
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been so good that CoDIAK is fully erect. Thanks for that,
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Codiac back. Let's let's kick it to you give me
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an unsung hero.
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Well, it's definitely not going to be Luke Wattenberg, Like
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Paul Shatters said in the comments, No, yeah, I think
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I think JFM is a good one. I'm gonna stay
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with the offensive side though. Honestly, like Alex Pouchesk is
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someone I think deserves quite a bit of credit for
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stepping up for stepping up in the in the wake
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of the Ben Powers injury and playing as well as
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as he has. You know, is he playing at the
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same level as a coin minors? No, obviously not, But dude,
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this guy's got some nasty to him. He's keeping this
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offensive float. And like, sometimes when when you have a
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key guy like like Ben Powers go down, not that
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he was playing at a super high level to start
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the season, but when you have a like a key
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part of a key starter of your offensive line go down,
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it's tough to get a guy in there that can
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keep or like just maintain or even elevate the level
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of play.
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And Pat Poucho was technically on the depth chart.
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Yeah, yeah, so he's he's the guy stepping in for
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the injured guy, right. So the fact that he's been
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able to the fact that he's been able to fill
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in where he has throughout this season last season, I
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think that that's a that's a testament to the coaching
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staff the development. Clearly they saw something in this guy
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that they really really liked, and he's he's been tremendous.
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It's it's been awesome to watch. Would love to see
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us get back to some downhill power football, you know,
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pulling some guys a little bit more. That's something Ben
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Powers is really good at. But Sean Payton didn't really
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do that too much with him, So it is something
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that I would like to see potentially happen. But Palchweski
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kind of makes you think, like, hmm, it's a cheap option.
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You could potentially move off of Ben Powers contract next year. Uh,
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and like keep a good talented developmental piece. I mean,
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how many how many times have we seen guys who
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are undrafted rookies go on to become starters down the road,
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you know, get get a second contract with the team.
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I think it'd be really cool. And I want to
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see Polchesky keep growing and keep evolving with this offense
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and with this staff. Hoping that they keep the majority
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of this offensive staff after this season will be kind
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of tough, But I just I think that he is
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a guy that deserves a lot of praise and a
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lot of credit right now.
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Yeah, And I wanted to leave this comment from Kodiaka
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because he brings up an excellent point, Like I think
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a lot of people forgot mcglinchy went down last year. Yep,
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and he's so filled in admirably so the fact that
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he's not only been like really excelling at the left
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guard position, but that he is capable of excelling at
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the right tackle position. And you're right, like, for down
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the road, do we see Palchow like as a true
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starter on this line? I see no reason why not
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every opportunity that he's gotten, Pat, And this is kind
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of like the theme of what we're talking about, right, is
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like the guys that are maximizing the limited playing time
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that they're getting. And I think we started off the
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bat with two perfect guys, like guys who you know,
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a backup at a full back who don't see the
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field a lot. Palchow was not supposed to see the
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field a lot aside from you know, being a tackle
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eligible guy, and has filled in unbelievably to the point where, Yeah,
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I think you have a really difficult decision or maybe
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not so difficult decision to make between he and Powers.
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But let me ask you this, Pat, before we move
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on to the next one. When Powers is healthy and
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it feels like he might be able to play on
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Sunday or at the very least maybe on the Thursday
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night game, do you insert him back into the lineup,
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or do you just kind of keep things rolling the
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way that they are.
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That's tough, man Like, you want to maintain continuity with
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the offense and the way that they the way that
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they've been playing as of late. It's just like you
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don't want to mess up the chemistry. You don't want
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to mess up the you know. So, I mean I
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ran into a situation like this.
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I ran Powers doesn't do or like doesn't do as.
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I would say. Palchow's a little more, he can move
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a little bit better. Uh, you know, Powers is a
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bit older than him, but Palchow's got Palchow's got some
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power to him. He can move a little bit. I
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would love to see. I would love to see more
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of him pulling to give like a real honest, you know,
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a real honest tell. But I just think like Powers
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is the VET, and you know, he's getting paid all
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this money, and so maybe there's a contract thing where like, hey,
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we got to get this guy's we're gonna get this
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guy's bonus. But I think that and this comment right
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here from Fish addicts Palchow coming in for run heavy plays.
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I think maybe that's what they go back to against
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the Jags. I don't know if you do it. Maybe
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against the Chiefs and the Chargers. You put Powers back
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in there to get him those reps and get him going.
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I would like, I wouldn't be surprised if Powers plays
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the entire you know, even if we clinch and everything.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he plays the entire Chiefs
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game or Chiefs Chargers game, just to just so that
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he can have those reps going into the playoffs. But man,
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right now, for me, it would be tough. It would
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be tough for me to say, hey, Palchow, thanks, thanks
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so much for your help, Bud, but we're gonna put
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this guy back into the starting lineup, so just hang tick, just.
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Tell him that his time will come again.
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Yeah. Yeah, And you know, I ran into a situation
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like that this year. Or you know, you got a guy,
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you got a guy who's hurt. The guy who replaced
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him was just absolutely balling out, and it came down to,
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you know, hey, like ay, as a senior, we gotta
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you know, we gotta leave him in because right now
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the offense is working a lot better with this guy
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in than than you. And uh, that's just the way
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that the cookie crumbles. So just hang tight and and
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wait for your spot. Will use you when we need you.
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But it's it is a tough situation, especially with especially
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with the way that they've been playing. You don't you
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don't want to mess anything up so.
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Well, and it almost feels like, and I guess this
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is a good problem to have, if you can even
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call it a problem. It's like you have too above
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average serviceable guys that can both play the position. It's
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like Patro comes in and there's there's not a drop
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off compared to and I'm totally spacing on his name
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and maybe rightfully so, but the the tech pert, uh,
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they kind of in splicably put in it left guard
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just for that Jets game. And I get he was injured,
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but was a big reason that that game was as
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close as it was, and it was something that we
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had discussed. And so the fact that he can come
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in after Parrot and have the kind of impact that
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he had when we saw that, like with Parrot, it
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was a bit of a detriment. And that is the
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absolute last thing that you want when it comes to
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like depth offensive lineman, Like if any one of your
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guys goes down, is a guy going to come in
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and be as good or better. Almost never. But the
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fact that we haven't seen any sort of drop off
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compared to the drop off that we saw with Parrot,
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I think speaks volumes about what Paucho has been able
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to do. I'm gonna shift over to the side of
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the football that is very near and dear to your heart,
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and that is Special Teams, and I'm going to talk
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about you know, we love JL Skinner and shout out
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Ja L. Skinner and he's fantastic. But man, Pat Devon, Yeah,
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my goodness, this man is always around the bat ball.
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I think he leads the league by several special teams tackles,
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like should be the leading vote getter in terms of
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Special teams players. And again, it's an unsung hero because
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special teams is a unit that you don't want to
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have to think about, and like a lot of people
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just kind of they kind of consider it a lesser
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unit compared to offense and defense. But one of the
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reasons that this team is twelve and two and have
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won eleven straight and look as good as they have
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because ever since I want to say, like week six
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or seven, when you and I were really really critical
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of Special teams. You know, they bring in Rizzy, who's
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supposed to be an upgrade, and it was looking really
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icy aside from the league, yeah, aside from Crosshaw, like,
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the special teams was not looking good. And man, I
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don't know what happened, but they have flipped a switch
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and this has looked like one of the best special
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teams units in the entire league. And it's just it's
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own nice because now you're dealing with a complete football
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team and Devon Key is the key for lack of
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a better term, Like you see the pop plays with
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j L Skinner and he you know, he makes those
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plays like on special teams that you notice, but Davon
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Key is just always there, man, And it's so nice
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to have like multiple reliable special teams players, especially when
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Trent your Trent Sherfield was supposed to be one of
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those guys, like almost the entire reason that they brought
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him in didn't work out. And man, thankfully Devon Key
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and Jael Skinner have been as good as advertised because
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the special teams unit, in large part thanks to them,
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has been fantastic.
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Yeah, I think I mean Jail Skinner is always going
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to be my my special teams guy like that dude
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is just is so damn fun to watch. Somebody said
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he's the team's k Web from the twenty fifteen unit,
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David Bruton. David Bruton, that guy was everywhere.
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Man.
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Devon Key's been been playing lights out. But I mean,
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as you know, as a whole, Like you know, before
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the season, when we were talking about them needing, uh
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to figure a lot of things out, especially like gunners
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and you know, their their lanes and everything. I think
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they they put together a really solid group of guys.
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You know, missing Korean Reid right now, but uh, Turner
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has been a great replacement in his spot.
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So he's a great nd.
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Yeah, Turner. Turner's been awesome on special teams. But I
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will say, I mean Jeremy Crosshaw would be my unsung hero,
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but everybody knows now because.
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Now he's a song. I'm pretty sure he's one of
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the best.
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One of the best punters in the league. As a rookie,
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remember when, Remember when, remember when people wanted to cut him. Yeah,
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never stopped. I'll never get over that. I'll never get
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over that.
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Had like he had been having this great year and
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then randomly had that absolute turn of a game against
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and then all all the haters came out of the
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Raptors league. See, but told you good. And then I
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think he put like five punts inside the twenty the
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next week.
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Yeah, I mean, look, the Raiders game winds blown forty
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miles an hour. You try to go kicking that shit
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like please. I will say though, in one unsung here
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on the on the uh special team side, and maybe
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he's a defensive guy for you, but for me, Dondre
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Tillman has been an awesome guy on uh kickoff and
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kick return in terms of blocking in I.
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Mean, the guy leading the team in interceptions Patrick.
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Yeah, yeah, the interceptions leader for the Denver Broncos. Dondre Tillman.
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His impact on special teams is and awesome.
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Uh.
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They have turned into one of the better teams in
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the league when it comes to kick return yards and
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you know, starting starting field position, and a lot of
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that is due to him. Like you mentioned something about like, oh,
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well this team put a defensive lineman out on off
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and they just they blew up the blocking. Well that's
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what Dondre Tillman's been doing.
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Uh.
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You know, I'm I'm actually like a pretty big fan
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of the of the new kickoff format. I like to
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see them. I like to see the kick returns as
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kind of like a run play almost so like most
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of the time you can just block it like duo
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and you're gonna like you're gonna find a crease somewhere.
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But the filibuster to that is putting big guys out
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there on the field. So then that turns into Okay,
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well you just you just ruined our gap integrity, And
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Dondre Tillman's been doing a great job of doing that,
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and he's opened up lank for guys like Devon Key
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and Jail Skinner to come in and make key tackles.
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So kudos to him. I think he's been I think
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he's been doing a really good job. Hushbacks. Going back
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to the thirty five is plastamous. Well, kick the ball,
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desperately want to see the ball in the landing zone.
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God forbid, God forbid, they scoot the kicker back five
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or ten yards. I know that one. We're just gonna
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keep letting the offense get closer and closer when you
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can get out of the end zone.
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The one the one thing I miss about the old
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kickoff is like at the beginning of the game when
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everybody's lined up and and you know, they all start
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running with the kicker and then you get that beautiful,
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the beautiful down the line the kicker boom and the
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ball and everybody gets going.
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Now you got guys just standing there waiting like this.
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Yeah, but I think it's I think it allows and
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I know we're kind of getting off off the rails here,
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but I think it allows for more creativity on on
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the special team side. Like I said, you can treat it.
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You can treat it like a run play. So you know,
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don't be surprised if we see, like, you know, fucking like,
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all of a sudden, it's kickoff power and you've got
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a guy looping around. Uh you know, they start going
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they start going left, and then all of a sudden,
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they're going right and you got someone kicking out like
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it would be beautiful. But yeah, Dendre Tillman to me
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unsung hero of the of the Special Teams unit. He's
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been an absolute boss this year all over the place.
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Yeah, and like I said, inexplicably leads the team in interceptions,
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which is just crazy on a team with with Patrick
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Sartan who just got his first interception that really turned
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that game around, Riley Moss who just got his first interception,
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Brandon Jones who has one, Hufongo who somehow doesn't have one,
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but no, it's it's the number three or number four
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rotational edge rusher uh and USFL legend Andre Tillman, who
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also and by the way, had a sack a in
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a key part of the game on Sunday.
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And you know what, Mario, we called that one. We
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called that one. That's a big win for us. That
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is a massive win for us because we we were
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saying we were on thatter he got picked up. We
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were like, oh shit, this guy's gonna be a stud.
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And it was just kind of like one of those
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like uh whatever USFL guy.
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Like like you you thought he was a campbody. Yeah,
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and he was so and he was supposed to be
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and he was so good and he came out and
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he was so good they had to put him on
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the team.
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Yeah. Paul Shatter wants to know if the Broncos break
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the sack record.
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Here's what I'll say. So, I think this game against
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the jack Wires is going to be tough. They have
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a good offensive line. Trevor Lawrence. To Trevor Lawrence is fantastic. Yea.
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I know that he's gotten a lot of crap. It
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seems like he's finally in a good system. His receivers
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are finally catching the ball for him. I've been a
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Trevor Lawrence fan from the beginning, and I know again
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he gets a lot of crap. And people were even
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throwing the bust word around, but if they were just
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watching all twenty two of Trevor Lawrence, He's unbelievable. Really
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he is. It's just like his receivers let him down
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time and time again. He's had so many different coaches,
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so many different play callers, different weapons, and now that
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they're finally kind of gelling, you're starting to see and
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we're gonna see it firsthand on Sunday. Really how good
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Trevor Lawrence really is. And so I'm not sure how
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far off they are on the sack record, if someone
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in the comments wants to look that up, but I
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don't think that they're gonna get too many. And I
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think you're right, Pat, like one or two, three? Would
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three sounds like a lot? Like if they can get
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three or more than I think that they're they're kind
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of playing above their station in terms of what we see.
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We've seen from the Jaguars offense. But I think if
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they are going to break the record, it's gonna come
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against Kansas City Chiefs. Seventy more. Yeah, that's all.
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So you need six games, it's.
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A game I don't think you're getting. You're not getting
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six against against the Jaguars. Maybe against the Chiefs, and
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because you got Gardner Minshew back there, their offensive line
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is broken down. I know Simmons is out for the year.
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I think the right tackle is out for the year,
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the dude that always jumps off side. And then I
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think the Chargers game will be interesting because they've had
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injuries on their line. But Herbert does not get sacked
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a lot. So no, I don't see them breaking the record.
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I think that they will come close. Uh, And I
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think they'll lead the league certainly in sacks again, which
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is more than enough, more than you can ask for.
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But they've been good enough. And the thing is like
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the sack statistic is a little bit loaded too, right
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in terms of pressure. That's pressure statistic doesn't get doesn't
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get enough attention. So that's the statistic that we see
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Zach Allen consistently leading the league in. And they're not
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as important as sacks, but damn like, if you are
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consistently pressuring the quarterback, and I think I saw a
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graphic Pat that said Jordan Love was pressured on something
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like fifty five percent of his dropbacks on Sunday. And
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in the second half when the Broncos defense finally started
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to gel and they really started to get after him
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because their pressure rate in the first half was not good,
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then the second half it was off the charts, and
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that was when Jordan Love started to kind of fall
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apart at the seams and they only had three sacks.
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It was the pressure. It was constant pressure that was
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getting to Jordan Love. And so I'm almost not as
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worried about sacks, like as long as this team can
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generate pressure because now Pat correct me if I'm wrong.
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The offenses that are going against this Broncos team, who
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are running almost exclusively man like, more man coverage than
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any other team in the league, They're wanting to get
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the ball out quick because they know that that pass
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rush is coming. They know that VJ is sending stunts
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sending blitzes. You never know who's coming and win, and
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that's just kind of become the mo o. It's like,
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you got to attack them short, quick hitters. And the
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only time that we really see teams throwing deep is
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if they're trying to draw a pass interference on Riley Moss. Yeah, well,
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which should be a good strategy.
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Apparently, should be noted that we'll talk about that.
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It should be not to say that it's justified.
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It should be known that the Broncos did sack Herbert
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five times in that first uh in that first matchup,
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and that was with Joe Alt playing in that game.
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So it could be, could be.
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It could be interesting if they have one of these
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insane SAT games against Kansas City, which I'd like, that's
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kind of the vix. I get the Christmas.
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Here's a Christmas present.
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This team, this team is so demoralizing, so out of
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their element. Now. Well, in his postgame press conference, Chris
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Jones didn't even know that they were eliminated from the playoffs.
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You know, we got there talking like, yeah, well we
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just got to lock in, like there's there's still a chance,
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and and he's like, oh, wait, are we are? We eliminated.
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Oh we're eliminated, Okay, And it's just like Mahomes is down,
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that team is they're cooked. So if you are going
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to make up sacks in that category, then I think
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it's going to have to be that game. P Their
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offensive line is a mess. I love Gardner Minshew to death,
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and I would have loved him to be the backup
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quarterback here just based on vibes alone. But that needs
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to be a really messy game. And I think that's
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the game that could kind of like keep them in
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the running for setting the sack record. And I think
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they're just gonna have to find a couple that maybe
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the otherwise wouldn't get on Sunday because I don't see
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Trevor Lawrence getting sacked a lot.
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Let me ask you this before we get to the
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unsung hero of the defense. Let's say the Broncos do
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beat the Jaguars, they clinched the number one seed. Do
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you sit the starters for the last two games, given
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the situation in Kansas City, and uh, you know, maybe
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the likelihood that they're probably gonna play Herbert in the
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last game, they're gonna be fighting for wild card spots.
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But do you treat those last gas.
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I honestly hope and I know it's a long shot
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for them to clinch because I think the Patriots have
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to lose to the Ravens, and I think the is
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it the Texans are still going to have to lose
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it whatever whatever it is, or I think the Bills
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have to lose to like Secure, and I think the
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Bills are playing someone not very good. Regardless, I'm almost
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rooting for them to not clinch it because then I
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think that is a real decision that you would have
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to make in something that you would have to discuss.
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I don't see Sean Payton resting the starters like maybe
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kind of treats it like like an exhibition game, because
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I certainly see the merit in wanting to rest your guys.
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But man, you're talking about week seventeen, and that's a
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Thursday night game, So then that's like just more additional
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time that they're not playing. So like following that Jaguars game,
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so you go to week seventeen, Week eighteen, then you
491
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got the bye week. You're talking about not playing meaningful
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football for four weeks for damn near a month. I
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don't like that. I'm not even a big fan of
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like when teams rest their starters in week eighteen, and
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I hope that they're at that point because I think
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it'll be nice for them to have a couple of
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weeks off and you know, maybe you play, you know,
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you're Alex Singleton and you're Tellanoah Whufonga's Courtland Sutton gets
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some run. I think that's that's a game that Bonick
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sits in week eighteen if they have clinched the number
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one seed. I think that's a game pats Ertan sits
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like Nick Benito's fits, like you're you're really heavy hitters,
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but you're leaving most of the guys out there because
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I think it's just too much time. So yeah, awesome
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as it would be to kind of have that feather
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in your cap of like, yeah, a lot of people
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didn't think that the Broncos were legit contenders three weeks
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into the season, but then they happen to clinch the
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number one seed as early as week sixteen would be
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absolutely insane. I don't want to have that decision of,
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you know, do you rest your starters for an entire month,
512
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because I think that's way too long. I mean you're
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a football player, pat imagine being in the thick of
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a season and then waiting a whole month to play
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another game, and not only is it meaningful, but it's
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a playoff game. Not only is it a playoff game,
517
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but it's your first home playoff game since you won
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the AFC Championship game back in two thousand and I
519
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think technically sixteen was the last playoff when they had
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at home. There's too much riding on it, and you
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have to be fresh. And for any Rockies fans that
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are in the comments, and I know they're few and
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far between, and you know, my heart belongs to the Mariners,
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but of course I love the Rockies. In two and seven,
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if you remember Roctober Rockies fans, when they won like
526
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twenty one of their last twenty two games, they swept
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their way through the entire playoffs to meet up with
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the Boston Red Sox in the World Series. And what happened.
529
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The Rocky swept the Diamondbacks in the NLCS. The Red Sox,
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I think it took them six maybe seven games to
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beat the Indians, I want to say, or what insensitive
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things they used to be called. The bottom line is
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the Rockies win I think seven or eight days without
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playing a meaningful baseball game, without playing a live game,
535
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and so you took the hottest team in the entire league,
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exactly what the Broncos are now. You sat them and
537
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in a week off in baseball is the equivalent of
538
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a month off in football. It is an eternity in baseball.
539
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Your timing is off. You got to knock the rust off.
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You've got to regain all of this momentum that you've lost.
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It's I don't like the idea of it, and honestly,
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it's very unlikely that even with a win that they
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would clinch the number one seed. And honestly, Pat I
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think best case scenario and for us to all have
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the merriest Christmas that we possibly can is they go out,
546
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they take care of business. On Sunday, they beat the Jaguars,
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they kind of solidify themselves as beating another really good,
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hot team. And then you go into Kansas City, a
549
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place where you have not won since twenty fifteen season,
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and you beat the breaks off of that team. You
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send all of those fans home sad, and there's not
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going to be a lot of them. I had a
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buddy that lives out there, who said they get in
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price for that game forty three dollars. Nobody, nobody abandons
555
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a bandwagon like Kansas City Chiefs fans. Well, that Tuvie
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is going to be that stadium is going to be empty.
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So wouldn't you the merriest Christmas of all Patrick if
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they beat the breaks off of the Chiefs. I get it,
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I know, but it's Christmas night. Nobody does anything Christmas night.
560
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All the excitements in the morning, okay, and all of
561
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those people are getting cold anyway. It's not like they
562
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have anything to look forward to. You beat the brakes
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off of the Chiefs Thursday night, that clinches the number
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one seed because it was already taken from us to
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knock them out of the playoffs because they've been like
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so bad. Like I know they were bad. I didn't
567
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think that they would be this bad to where they
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would be eliminated two whole weeks before the Broncos got
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the chance to knock them out of the playoffs. But
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here we are, and so as a consolation prize, we
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not we might not be able to knock you out
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of the playoffs, but we're gonna go ahead and clinch
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that one seed in your backyard? How you like me?
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Now send Travis Kelsey back to miss Swift with a
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nice ass whooping for Christmas?
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I like it. How excited do you think Taylor Swift
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is that instead of having to fly her private jet
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to bump fuck Missouri and go to that horrible stadium
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with those horrible people and watch that team live and
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in person, when now she can sit at home in
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front of her big screen TV and her nice couch,
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little warm, fuzzy fire or cozy fire going on fuzzy blanket. No,
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she's got her cats there? Why and she gets to
584
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watch bo Chapman Nix from her TV in high depth
585
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playing and playing in the playoffs. That has got one
586
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be such a relief for her one moment.
587
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:41.079
Hey, okay, then where where does Taylor Swift fers ade?
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Where does she live? Like on the rag, she would know.
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All over, so she does.
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She doesn't have a house in one place, She just
591
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lives on an airplane. I'm like, where where is her York?
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New York? Of course New York is is where she'll
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be watching bo Chapman Nicks from New York from from
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her Manhattan pent Han's house watching bo Chapman Nicks.
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What if, writes as she writes her next album with
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bow Knicks as her inspiration as her muse.
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Oh no, Sean Payton would be the muse. Sean Sean
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Payton would be the muse. Taylor Swift would see Sean
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Payton come come up.
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She saw that coaching picture with the bulge and she's like, oh,
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you know what, I I.
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Will put a considerable amount of money that The first
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words that the next Taylor Swift album are well, look,
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that's that's gonna be the first words, because that's every
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Sean Payton interview is well, look when we when we
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turn on the film, we look at these things.
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So I guess he ever let a reporter actually finish
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a question like he's in such a hurry to get
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out of there. It's like at the very like certain certainly, certainly,
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Luca Evans, I think somebody told him, like before he
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could get the last three or four words of the
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question out, Sean Payton's already answering the questions.
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Yeah, he's already. Okay, we need to get back on
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track here, Unsung hero, Defense of the Defense, Hit me,
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who is yours?
616
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It's it's crazy because I feel like almost everybody on
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that defense is kind of like a sung hero, you know.
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But if I had to say someone, man, I'm gonna
619
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go with Malcolm Roach, you know. Again, like he's not
620
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filling up the statu sheet necessarily. I think he has
621
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maybe a couple of sacks on the season, but the
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couple of games that he missed with an injury, you
623
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could tell like it was detrimental to their run defense
624
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in terms of their rotation. And I think you have,
625
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you know, a guy that's turning into really a generational
626
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player in Zach Allen when he's not on the field.
627
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The fact that you know, and JFM, Like I know
628
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someone said JFM earlier. Again, I don't think JFM is
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necessarily unsung. I think he is a sung hero. I
630
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think we all kind of know what we're getting out
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of him. And so when they traded for JFM and
632
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then Adam Malcolm Roach, Malcolm Roach almost seemed like a
633
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toss in to there. But man has an impact every
634
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time that he's on the field and does that dirty work,
635
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like does the things that don't show up on the
636
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stat sheet but absolutely impact the game. So to me,
637
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like In terms of his run defense, he reminds me
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a little bit of Mike Purcell, Like Purcell's not getting
639
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.679
after the quarterback in that sense, but man, was he
640
00:35:48.119 --> 00:35:51.239
so damn good at just plugging up the middle, shooting
641
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the gaps, disrupting the run. And so for me, Malcolm
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Roach is absolutely the unsung hero. Not a ton of
643
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snaps on a week to week basis, but every time
644
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he comes in, uh, the production but like you from
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from JFM and from Zach Allen to him doesn't drop
646
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off entirely.
647
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Yeah, yeah, I don't think I necessarily have an unsung
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hero of this defense. I think that a lot of
649
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:19.559
these guys are extremely talented and they prove it each
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and every week. Like this is a truly complete unit.
651
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:25.079
I mean you we can sit here and say, yeah,
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Jakewon McMillan's been great this year. You know, Brandon Jones
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has been awesome this year, and I hope he heals up,
654
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.480
you know, really sucks to have him on IR. But man,
655
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how how vastly different as this defense looked with the
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addition of Talanou Funga, How vastly different? I mean it,
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like this is a team and no shade to any
658
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former player or anything. But like, holy shit, man, Like
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if you would have told me, you know, two years ago, yeah,
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whu funk is going to be on the Broncos and
661
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and this team's going to be like literally the best
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unit in the NFL, I would have been like, maybe
663
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if he can stay healthy. Well, he's been healthy, and
664
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he's flying around like a pismissile every play and he's
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bringing his he's bringing an attitude to him and Greenlaw like, yeah,
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green Law, we knew like this. He's a dog like
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you know, we saw him. Don't want to mess up.
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He damn near killed Josh Jacobs in this game, holy shit.
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But yeah, he damn near discastitated him. Jacobs wasn't really
670
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the same after that. Haiti No.
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I mean Hufunga coming down uh in the run, Hufunga
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playing near the line of scrimmage, blitzing. I mean, this
673
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guy has been such a unique addition to this team
674
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and it's really taken the whole defense up a notch.
675
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Like they just play with this attitude, you know, like
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last year they were last year they had some swag
677
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and and you know, they had the beef up front
678
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and those guys were great, but like it just it
679
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didn't feel like I don't feel, you know, like the
680
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fish addict just said it, tone cetter, Like I didn't
681
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feel like we ever really controlled the tone of the
682
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game when we were on defense. Now now I'm just waiting.
683
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I'm like, when is that long haired fuck gonna come
684
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just barreling down and blow somebody up? Oh that's second
685
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play of the game. Oh look at that. He just
686
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shoved the opposing quarterback's head into the ground after a
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fourth down conversion in the first fucking quarter of the game. Yeah,
688
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this is gonna be a dog fight. That's how I
689
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feel every time watching this dude. So unsung hero no,
690
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but like absolute game measure, difference maker, tone setter, whatever
691
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you want to call him, it's who funk the man.
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I have to get myself a jersey at this point.
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This dude is just just transformational for this defense. And
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I love DJ Jones, I love Malcolm Roach. I love
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that you said him, because that's a dude that has
696
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earned every single cent of his money here in Denver. Yeah, Zach,
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I feel like Zach Allen is the unsung guy though,
698
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like we just don't hear his knee.
699
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He gets lost in the shovels.
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He gets lost in the shuffle. But it's like, dude,
701
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this guy is impacting the game left and right, like
702
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he's he's such a difference maker.
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There have been three different times, there have been three
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different times this season that a team has been in
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field goal range Zach Allen has sacked the quarterback and
706
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knocked them out of field goal range and forced them
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to punt. That's nine points in three plays that he
708
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has impacted on the season. And yeah, I'm glad that
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you brought up Hufanga in Green Law because here's the thing,
710
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we as fans want to liken this defense to the
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twenty fifteen defense, the historically good defense that your former
712
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co host was famously on Chris Harris Junior. And the
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biggest thing because the defense balled out last year or too,
714
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and we all know until obviously the playoffs and kind
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of down the stretch they started to falter. And I
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think a big reason for that is they didn't have
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the attitude guys kind of what kind of what fish
718
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.519
Addict said, like he's like what TJ Ward did? TJ
719
00:40:12.719 --> 00:40:15.679
Ward or going to keep to leave. You need those
720
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:19.840
those mouthy firestarters you know, who are gonna put a
721
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:22.239
big hit on someone, They're gonna get in somebody's face,
722
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.079
they're gonna fire up the defense. That was what they
723
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.800
didn't have last year. Like Singleton can maybe kind of
724
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.760
be that guy, but it's it's just not the same,
725
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.159
like and no, he's he's always talking, but he's the
726
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:38.760
energy is just different. And again nothing against Alex Singleton,
727
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:42.639
but like last year, Singleton wasn't there. Obviously, Hufang and
728
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.519
Greenlaw weren't there. And your best defensive players is like, well,
729
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:48.119
pats are ten is a cornerback and he's not he's
730
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:50.800
not yapping at people. You know, he's not real demonstrations
731
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:54.280
should be he and he should be and he should
732
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:59.400
be that he carries him. He carries himself like Da
733
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.360
Marius time. You remember when DT was around and fans
734
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.559
would like get Matt that he wasn't more excitable and
735
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.639
like wouldn't get fired up. And Pat is kind of
736
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:09.280
the same way. It's like he lets his play do
737
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.920
the talking. You know, he'll do this or you know,
738
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.159
hit one of these and that's kind of it. And
739
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.360
then you had guys like like Benito's not like that
740
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.639
real verbal, emotional leader. Jonathan Cooper kind of is, but
741
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:22.840
he's more of just like you know, he flips a
742
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:25.440
switch and he's just a lunatic on the field, and
743
00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.519
I think he kind of scares people, even on his
744
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:31.239
own team. And so those have been the biggest difference makers.
745
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:35.159
And I remember seeing, you know, in preseason, Pat, when
746
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:37.320
people are overly critical and they go out because they
747
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:40.079
needed a safety, they needed an inside linebacker, and I
748
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:42.000
thought the two guys that they got were great if
749
00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.599
what if they were able to stay healthy. And somebody
750
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.679
had called green Law five or six games end of
751
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.039
the season when he hadn't played yet, they were calling
752
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:55.639
him the worst free agent signing since that alopecia right
753
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:58.519
tackle that we signed who played like six snaps and
754
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.119
boat raced us for twenty to thirty dollars or whatever
755
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:05.360
it is. That's who it was. They said that he
756
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.920
was the worst free agent signing since Juwan James. How
757
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:11.800
do you feel about that now, because that's that's exactly
758
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.239
what it is, like finally, like that was the missing
759
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.719
part of this defense, Pat, was the attitude both of
760
00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.920
those guys and and of course they're both from San Francisco.
761
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:24.719
Fantastic defense for so long they brought almost one hundred
762
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.519
percent of the attitude that the San Francisco forty nine
763
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:32.320
Ers defense had. They plugged it right into the Broncos defense.
764
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:35.920
And that has been the biggest factor. Well, it's like
765
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:39.199
you as an offense, as like an opposing offense, especially
766
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:42.079
where they're at now, you feel like you never have
767
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.599
the game won until there's all zeros on the clock
768
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.360
and you feel like when push comes to shove, that
769
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:51.840
defense is going to thump you when they need to.
770
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.440
And I think a lot of that begins and ends
771
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:57.239
with the attitude that whufonga and Greenlaw brain.
772
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.480
Yeah, I think so too. I mean just the I
773
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:04.039
mean we've seen the fire from green Law multiple times.
774
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:08.280
Uh this season. You know, him getting suspended for chirping
775
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:11.079
with the refs. Uh because anyone can gexed up in
776
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.760
the he got mixed up in the shuffle, you know
777
00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:18.599
against the Packers. He late late that fucking would my goodness, Uh,
778
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:23.679
that that's a dude. Like man, I'm not gonna say,
779
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:26.039
I'm not gonna say he is a one to one,
780
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:30.280
but like they're the the just the mentality and like
781
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:33.280
the physicality that Greenlaw brings reminds me a lot of
782
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:36.960
Al Wilson and during his time in Denver just like
783
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:42.159
a fucking powerhouse. Who he's gonna thump me, You're gonna
784
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.880
he's gonna let you know he's there for the game. Yeah,
785
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:52.239
you're gonna feel him. But yeah, it's just the it's
786
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:54.280
just the attitude, and other guys see that and then
787
00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.599
it's it's infectious, right, Like you know. I had the
788
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:01.239
pleasure of talking with Tatum Bell about Al Wilson actually,
789
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.199
and he was like, Yeah, that dude won't say anything
790
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:08.559
to you, like between between the whistles, He's not going
791
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.239
to say a word. He's just like you are just
792
00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:18.000
going to feel every single every single pound, and then
793
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:21.800
like he's just gonna hurt. He's gonna say little things,
794
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:23.960
little thing is to get in your head and make
795
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.199
you not want to come back his way. I feel
796
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:28.320
like that's what we have in Green Laws. We have
797
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:32.800
that attitude, We've got that nasty back. I was laughing
798
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:36.880
earlier because you were talking about Singleton, and we have
799
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.840
a new nickname for Singleton in the Fantasy group chat.
800
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:41.679
But I don't think that I can say it on air.
801
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:46.039
But if you're brave enough out there and you want
802
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:48.960
to get a number forty nine single nut jersey. You
803
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:53.440
absolutely should because that is such a banger of a jersey,
804
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:58.360
preferably the blue one, the classic blue one, that would
805
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.280
be ideal. And you know what, he would probably love.
806
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:07.519
You're a menace, all right. We gave flowers to the
807
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:12.079
guys who otherwise maybe don't get foers, but inevitably, Pat,
808
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:18.159
we have to talk about the straw, the straw that's
809
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:22.920
your your best, the straw that stirs the drink. And
810
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:25.880
I've been waiting to drop this video because I feel
811
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:29.320
like we haven't done it a lot. But man, how
812
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:36.119
about MVP candidate Bo Chapman Knicks.
813
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:41.119
But it's been the Crosby Knicks Wilson Knicks matchups today.
814
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:49.079
It's incredible. They're like the last two s both year
815
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:51.440
and this year have almost kind of mirrored themselves, where
816
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:53.880
it's like he gets off to a little bit of
817
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.400
a slow start and people don't really know what to think,
818
00:45:56.559 --> 00:46:00.480
but they're winning football games and he's looking serviceable. And
819
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:03.639
then it's just like after a late in the season
820
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:09.760
Thursday night game, switch flips and bon Knicks just goes
821
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.159
to this place where he is unconscious and we haven't.
822
00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:16.280
We've only we've seen less than two seasons of games
823
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:20.280
worth of bon Knicks, and I think far and away
824
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:25.360
pat this game that he just played on Sunday, Like,
825
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.480
if you weren't already a bow leader, I don't know
826
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.480
what else that man could do to convince you that
827
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:36.320
he is the guy. Like Benjamin Solac had himself a
828
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:40.840
no good, very bad day because of that hit piece
829
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:43.159
on bone Knicks, and a couple of weeks later, bon
830
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:47.719
Nicks turns around and drops that performance on that defense.
831
00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:51.960
In that situation you want to talk about making a
832
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.599
guy look stupid, My god, bon Knicks was completely firing
833
00:46:57.880 --> 00:47:00.960
on all cylinders. And the difference in the game is
834
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:05.360
that Jordan Love statistically had his best half of his
835
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.360
career in the first half against the Broncos, and it
836
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.599
was really kind of overshadowing how good Bo was because
837
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:14.119
the defense took a little bit to get going, even
838
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.360
early in the second half, when you know it was
839
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.280
they were down by two possessions. Bo never flinched. He
840
00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:23.320
did not make a bad mistake. He had a couple
841
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:25.960
of passes that maybe should have been picked, but you
842
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:27.760
know what, that goes down in the stat line as
843
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.320
incomplete pass, it goes down as nothing. So I don't
844
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:33.840
want to hear people saying, oh, well picks were dropped. Yeah,
845
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:40.159
well but that counts for nothing, Okay, but there was
846
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:43.320
there was nothing that Bo couldn't do on Sunday, And
847
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.480
I don't know what it's going to take to get
848
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:47.760
him to get to that place on a week to
849
00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:52.440
week basis. But man, the Packers are a really good team.
850
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:56.360
They can pressure. Even obviously Parsons went down and that
851
00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:00.480
was a huge blow to their defense. But even with that,
852
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.800
even with Carson's like, it's just really damn good defense.
853
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:08.239
Like Xavier McKinny, for my money, is probably the best
854
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:09.960
safety in the league, if not top three. I mean
855
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:15.000
he like Xavier McKinney alone probably saved their defense fourteen
856
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:17.920
points and it would have been a historic day for
857
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:19.800
Bow if it wasn't for a couple of plays that
858
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:24.320
McKinney made. But if Bo can channel that pat and
859
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:28.039
figure out a way to just play that way for
860
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:31.719
the rest of the season and through the playoffs, no
861
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:35.079
one's beating this team with this defense and this special
862
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:38.920
teams unit. If Bo is on that level where he
863
00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:41.639
is just hitting all of his throws, he's in rhythm,
864
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:45.440
he's not overwhelmed. You know, he's he's making good decisions,
865
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:50.199
he's decisive. Nobody can beat this team in a sixty
866
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:55.039
minute football game. So can we see that sustained level
867
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.760
of play out of bow or do you think he
868
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:01.000
was maybe playing a little above his head.
869
00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:03.920
No, I think I think we've been seeing it for
870
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:08.840
the last couple of games. I'll be completely, completely honest.
871
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:12.679
I think we've been seeing it. The last game against
872
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:14.719
the Raiders, I mean, my goodness, that was one of
873
00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.320
the cleanest games of football I've seen from a quarterback
874
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:17.920
in a long time.
875
00:49:18.320 --> 00:49:21.320
You didn't think it was disgusting, as the athletic would
876
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:22.159
lead you to believe.
877
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:27.800
No, because I watched the game, you actually watched it.
878
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.239
I saw a guy who was very patient, who knew
879
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:33.800
what he was who knew what he was getting from
880
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:39.400
the defense, took the play calls, executed the offense to perfection.
881
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:43.719
They held onto the ball for two thirds of the game,
882
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:47.679
and I would not call that disgusting in the least.
883
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:51.199
And this game we saw the same guy. We saw
884
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:54.239
a guy who was very calm. When he escaped the pocket,
885
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:59.599
he still seemed like he was calm, and that's that's dangerous,
886
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.440
dangerous when you when you have a guy who just
887
00:50:04.559 --> 00:50:08.079
does not like there's nothing you can do stop him.
888
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:12.639
I mean the stuff that he was doing, like the
889
00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.239
stuff that he was doing off progression and the stuff
890
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.599
that he was doing when he was flushed out of
891
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.400
the pocket, you know, being able to create on the whim,
892
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.800
and he finally got the help from his supporting cast
893
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:26.639
that he needed. We saw him kind of do this
894
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.320
in the in the Houston game, he was he was
895
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.199
running quite a bit and he was trying to create
896
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.840
while he was on the run, and then those passes
897
00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:37.440
were either inaccurate or they were dropped or you know,
898
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:41.400
they they went through the hands of the receiver and
899
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:44.000
we didn't we didn't see that. This game, we saw
900
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.280
his supporting cast really step up in a big way.
901
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:49.639
And you know, the run game is is coming into
902
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:53.719
its own, which is fantastic. You know, they talked about
903
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.000
the they talked about the personnel chain, you know, not
904
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.239
doing as many personnel change is within a series, which
905
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:06.800
is is great. It helps him with his rhythm, helps
906
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:09.000
him with his play calling, It gives him time more
907
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.840
time to diagnose a defense. I think A big reason
908
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:16.000
why sometimes we saw him struggle early in his career
909
00:51:16.159 --> 00:51:19.840
and then earlier this year, was because you know, he's
910
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:22.719
he's having to get the play out, they're having to
911
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:28.360
switch guys out there, They're not giving him enough time
912
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:32.599
to actually read and react to what the defense is
913
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:33.079
giving him.
914
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:36.239
And so now he and we did see that on Sunday, Pat,
915
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:38.639
we now he's had to call an early time out,
916
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:41.639
which you hate to see what and he was visibly
917
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:46.480
frustrated with Sean Payton. Yeah, because they cleaned after that.
918
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:52.719
Yes, and I think Sean is is transforming in h
919
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:55.920
in his own right as a as a play caller.
920
00:51:56.119 --> 00:52:01.480
You know, hearing some of the things about like shortening up,
921
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:07.119
you know, abbreviating your play calling. I think that helps
922
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.800
tremendously because you're actually able, Like Bo goes into the
923
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:14.559
huddle with like two three plays every time, and that
924
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:18.239
that is he's got to rattle those off. But like
925
00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:20.920
before they break the huddle, he's got to rattle all
926
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.400
that off. And that's a lot to think about. And
927
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.320
then you only have fourteen seconds to diagnose and get
928
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:30.360
your motions and your shifts and all that stuff, and
929
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:33.519
that's a lot. Man, so let's make it easier on him.
930
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:37.000
And I think they have. And that's why it takes time, right, Like,
931
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.519
that's why it takes time to see quarterbacks develop. It's
932
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:42.960
like it's like Sean Payin is a little bit more
933
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.679
shot out, but that's gonna be most offensive play callers,
934
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.119
that's gonna be most rookie quarterbacks. Like I'm sure Caleb Williams,
935
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:51.360
you know, and the growing pains that he's had this
936
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:53.920
year with Ben Johnson, Like, I'm sure Ben Johnson is
937
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.920
the same way that really in play caller, but I'm
938
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:59.920
sure he's really demanding him. We saw Caleb Williams struggle
939
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:01.519
a little bit, but now that he's starting to get
940
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:04.320
his feet under him, Caleb Williams is starting to look
941
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:06.719
like the guy that we thought he was coming out
942
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:08.599
of USC slash Oklahoma.
943
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:12.239
And just what a coaching tree is Ben Johnson from.
944
00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:15.559
Do we know.
945
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:23.639
Anybody Payne Tree? Extension of parcels free but Peyton Tree.
946
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:28.000
That's the that's the reality. These guys know how to
947
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.960
work with quarterbacks. They they know exactly what they want,
948
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:35.440
they know exactly how they want to design their offenses,
949
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:39.199
and we're seeing it right now. Man is bo Is.
950
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:42.639
He was always a freak, Like he was always an
951
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.159
athletic freak. He had the arm talent the whole time,
952
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:47.880
the whole time. Yeah, he had he had the arm
953
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:50.519
twent the whole time. He's got the athleticism to get
954
00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.960
out of the pocket, He's got the toughness to do
955
00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:58.280
design runs. I mean, this guy is a someone said
956
00:53:58.360 --> 00:54:01.159
fish Addict said he's a diamond, and I mean, yeah,
957
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:03.599
that's true. Think of all the people that were just
958
00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:07.199
shitting on Peyton and Denver for taking this guy when
959
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:10.559
they did, oh, the sixth the sixth best quarterback in
960
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:12.960
the class. Ah, geez, this guy's going to be a bum.
961
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.199
He was in college for ten years. Bah blah blah
962
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:15.639
blah bah.
963
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:19.800
There were people that really convinced themselves that Spencer Rattler
964
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:23.159
was a better quarterback than bo Knicks. Midway through last season.
965
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:26.280
You remember a real conversation that was hat.
966
00:54:26.599 --> 00:54:30.320
Do you remember bo Nicks's first college game? Do you
967
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:31.000
remember that game?
968
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:31.440
That was it?
969
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:32.239
No?
970
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:34.880
I don't. I know it was at Auburn. I don't
971
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:38.280
know you played starting as a starting origin.
972
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.800
Yes, they played a top A top.
973
00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:43.880
I don't remember it, but I know you told me
974
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:44.760
about this guy.
975
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:49.840
Justin Herbert at quarterback and Oregon was beating the ship
976
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:54.119
out of Auburn for a little bit, and then this kid,
977
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:59.239
Bon Knicks, true freshman, just starts coming out of nowhere
978
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.559
making play, making plays with his legs, putting his team
979
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:03.400
in a position to win.
980
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:05.639
They won that game.
981
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:09.480
That's the type of that's the type of quarterback that
982
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.320
he is. He doesn't shy away from the big moments.
983
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:15.360
He doesn't like pressure is a privilege. He preaches it
984
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:19.719
all the time. It's great Dan Lanning euphemism. Pressure is
985
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.840
a privilege. And when you put bow Knicks under pressure,
986
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:27.039
he is going to make plays. Largest comeback in NFL
987
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:32.039
history in one quarter Bo Nicks. That's weird, Uh, He
988
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.440
is like, how many accoltes? What was the thing I
989
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:38.000
said the other day? There's only been two quarterbacks with
990
00:55:38.079 --> 00:55:42.679
like seven thousand yards and sixty touchdowns and and blah
991
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:46.199
blah blah within their first two seasons. It's Dan Marino.
992
00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.800
Twenty plus wins, Dan Marino and Bo Nicks.
993
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:52.800
And if you if you would have told me that,
994
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:55.679
if you would have told me pre draft, Yeah, I
995
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:57.960
think my comp for Bo Nicks is Dan Marino.
996
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.559
I'd say signed, you'd be laughed out of the buildings,
997
00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:04.880
But like, sign me up, Oh yeah, we on board
998
00:56:04.920 --> 00:56:07.320
with Yeah, of course I'll take Dan Marino.
999
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:09.920
I'll take Dan Marino any day. You give Dan Marino
1000
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:13.840
an elite defense and the only options.
1001
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.639
The only difference between those two, the biggest difference, I
1002
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.039
should say, is that boon Nicks is going to win
1003
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:21.079
at least one Super Bowl.
1004
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:25.719
I think, so, I like, look at this at this point,
1005
00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:28.320
at this point, I know it's so like it's so
1006
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:31.840
crazy to talk about it, it's so insane to think about.
1007
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:36.639
But like, what's going to stop him from doing? Like
1008
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:43.719
maybe Seattle. Uh, the Rams are a great defense, great offense,
1009
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.239
great coaching staff. Mike McDonald's doing great things in Seattle.
1010
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:51.559
You can't ever count out Josh Allen. Uh, Drake May
1011
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:56.800
has been been playing fantastic, And I like the Patriots were,
1012
00:56:57.320 --> 00:56:59.920
like they've they had one of my favorite draft classes.
1013
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:00.880
Uh.
1014
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.280
I knew the second that they signed Rabel, like this
1015
00:57:04.360 --> 00:57:06.760
team's gonna go back to the playoffs. We're all fucked.
1016
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:12.840
They gave him Drake May like fuck me, like and
1017
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:18.159
like I just I think to myself, like, when you're
1018
00:57:18.199 --> 00:57:20.840
playing these guys, and you're and Bo's gonna be put
1019
00:57:20.880 --> 00:57:24.519
in these positions. I am at a point where now
1020
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:27.239
I trust him to get out of sticky situations.
1021
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:31.559
I think the most important thing to keep in mind
1022
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:34.960
with all of this, this is year two of a rebuild.
1023
00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:41.079
They are still wrong by the Russell Wilson contract and
1024
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.599
not good, not good. Well, you know what, if you
1025
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:50.800
only pay attention to his social media, you think that
1026
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:54.760
he is just having a fantastic year, and then they
1027
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:57.079
turn around and I'm pretty sure he was not even
1028
00:57:57.159 --> 00:57:58.079
active on Sunday.
1029
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.000
But that's you know that Bree and I said that
1030
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:05.280
he would be benched before the Broncos game, and I
1031
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.239
and I saw it coming two three weeks.
1032
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:10.400
And here's the and here's the funniest thing now that
1033
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:13.480
now that we're on this, the fact that he got
1034
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:19.320
so offended and and broke character. Yes character, I say character,
1035
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:24.159
because he's absolutely playing a character in real life. They
1036
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:28.039
broke character and got so upset by what Sean Payton
1037
00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:32.239
said and in the process like really kind of undermined.
1038
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:36.880
They're They're like Jackson Dart and their actual starting quarterback.
1039
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.519
It's like, Russ, you were never long for this world.
1040
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:42.159
In New York. You know that you knew that this
1041
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.000
was your fate sooner or later, and the only way
1042
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.519
that you could have delayed it longer is if you
1043
00:58:47.639 --> 00:58:51.199
played serviceable football, and you didn't. And so for Sean
1044
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:53.800
Payton to come out like was it a dig? Yes,
1045
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:57.000
it was absolutely a dig. We all know how Sean
1046
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:00.920
Payton felt about Russell Wilson, desperately want him gone to
1047
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:03.400
the point where they were paying an exorbitant amount of
1048
00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:05.760
money for him to play on a different team. That's
1049
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:08.519
how highly Sean Payton thought of Russell Wilson. But he
1050
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:12.199
took offense to the fact that Sean Payton was hoping
1051
00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:15.280
that they didn't have to see Jackson Dart and that
1052
00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:18.360
he wouldn't start until later. Well, if you watch that
1053
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:21.760
game and you saw, like why the Giants should have
1054
00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:25.159
won that game, it was because of Jackson freaking Dart.
1055
00:59:25.840 --> 00:59:29.239
I was unbelievably impressed. You're talking about a rookie quarterback
1056
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:31.800
going up against at the time, the best defense in
1057
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:35.920
the league and Advance Joseph led defense and Jackson Dart
1058
00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:39.320
for much of that game shredded that defense. Pat, do
1059
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:42.079
you think that Russell Wilson would have been anywhere in
1060
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:45.360
the same stratosphere as that, and you're gonna take offense,
1061
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:51.119
Russell Wilson, just go away, bro, like you're done, and
1062
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:53.719
you've distracted me. And now I'm on the Russell Wilson
1063
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:57.800
hate train because it's so frustrating that he still involves himself.
1064
00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:00.960
Get off, get off, you're right, And in speaking of
1065
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:04.199
getting off, you know what else is getting off the
1066
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:08.519
rest of his contract? Oh next year. So the scariest
1067
01:00:08.559 --> 01:00:11.880
thing about this team, Patrick, not just that they're twelve
1068
01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:14.679
and two, not just that they've won eleven straight games,
1069
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:17.119
not just the fact that bo Nicks is starting to
1070
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:21.360
play like legitimately an MVP caliber quarterback, not just the
1071
01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:23.440
fact that their defense is one of the best units
1072
01:00:23.480 --> 01:00:26.000
in the league, not just the fact that their special
1073
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:28.119
teams unit is one of the best units in the league.
1074
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:32.119
But oh, by the way, they will have a full
1075
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:37.000
salary cap to work with next offseason. And oh, by
1076
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:41.360
the way, they have the richest owners in the NFL.
1077
01:00:41.679 --> 01:00:44.400
Owners have knock a league money to them. So I
1078
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:47.880
think that this If you think this team is good,
1079
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:51.840
and they are, oh my god, can you imagine next
1080
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:56.159
year when they have no more Russell Wilson Contract on
1081
01:00:56.280 --> 01:01:00.360
the books. That's what can really get you high up
1082
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:04.880
and excited, because this team is just going to keep
1083
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.840
trending right up like this, in this upward direction, and
1084
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:14.199
really nothing can stop them as long as they continue
1085
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:18.159
the trend and keep doing what they're doing. So Pat,
1086
01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:19.920
I'll ask you this as we get out of here.
1087
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:24.199
Any final thoughts of what this team needs to do
1088
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:28.159
or anything that they need to solidify in order to
1089
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:32.039
convince people that they are for real in order to
1090
01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:36.800
convince people that they should be the top Super Bowl contender.
1091
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.880
Is there anything left to prove for this team at
1092
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:43.760
this moment?
1093
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.960
More dominant run game? I would say, more dominant run game.
1094
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:53.480
And I mean, look, Harvey had nineteen carries in this
1095
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:56.000
in this last game was at about like three to
1096
01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:59.800
eighty point something yards per game, all right, yards per
1097
01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:05.280
I just think like they need a they need a
1098
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:09.360
truly dominant run game. And I think the screen game,
1099
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:12.559
the screen game can can stand to be improved a
1100
01:02:12.599 --> 01:02:15.119
little bit. But I think that's the one thing that
1101
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:19.000
I'm like, Man, if only we had this back, if
1102
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:22.000
only we had JK. Dobbins still like this team would
1103
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:26.000
probably I mean, at this point with bo playing like this,
1104
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.559
I mean, geez you you add a strong run game
1105
01:02:31.639 --> 01:02:35.280
into that. But Harvey's doing a good job. I hope,
1106
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:38.639
I hope he can play this week. They're gonna need him.
1107
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:42.239
But yeah, okay, he's just a little banged up, but
1108
01:02:42.760 --> 01:02:44.039
he's good. Yeah.
1109
01:02:44.440 --> 01:02:50.119
And also, let's create some more turnovers on the defensive side.
1110
01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:54.320
We finally got a couple, finally had a multi interception game.
1111
01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:57.559
Let's create a let's create some more. I think you
1112
01:02:57.679 --> 01:02:59.360
got to have at least two per game, go now.
1113
01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:03.599
I think that's that's gonna be the big thing. I
1114
01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:06.320
have my own qualms about our pass rush right now.
1115
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:12.719
You know that's that's a coaching thing. But I think
1116
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:16.159
I think they're just they're playing great football right now. Offensively,
1117
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:19.719
they're playing fantastic football. Sean Payton has dialed in as
1118
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.920
a play caller. This is his favorite time of year. Man,
1119
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:27.559
is this playoff run? So let's keep this energy going.
1120
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:31.920
And yeah, I just saw a funny Luke Wattenberg clip,
1121
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:35.920
which is why I kind of snickered. But uh, I
1122
01:03:35.960 --> 01:03:37.199
don't think they is.
1123
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:39.159
I don't think they really care to prove anyone wrong.
1124
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:42.079
They're playing week to week, They have goal set in stone.
1125
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:44.559
The haters will slowly come. Believers. The only thing that
1126
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:46.440
I have to say to that, I don't want the
1127
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:49.559
haters to come. Believers, stay your ass over there on
1128
01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.159
your side. We don't want you, we don't need you.
1129
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:55.599
And you're right. They don't care to prove anybody wrong
1130
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:59.760
because they've internalize everything and they realize that if they win,
1131
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:02.360
they will prove people wrong. Do you think that they
1132
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:05.679
respect the opinion of all of these people that still
1133
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:08.440
don't want to give them their flowers? It doesn't matter.
1134
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:11.880
It only matters to people like me and Pat and
1135
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:13.079
all of you watching.
1136
01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:16.559
Yeah, I think I think for them, for them in
1137
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:19.000
the locker room. I mean, right now, it's just you.
1138
01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:22.360
You got to have the most important thing is the
1139
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:26.559
next thing, right the most important game is the next game,
1140
01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:29.360
and you just got to take it one week at
1141
01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:33.159
a time. You can't look too far ahead, and you
1142
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:35.000
just have to keep playing football the way that you're
1143
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:37.760
playing football. You played a really good team, a really
1144
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:38.519
good team.
1145
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:40.800
And be a really good team. One of the.
1146
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:46.079
The NFC probably should have been like a forty plus
1147
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:50.519
point game for them if R. J. Harvey doesn't fumble
1148
01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:55.760
in that first try. So like all these teams that
1149
01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:58.559
people are saying from the from the NFC, like I
1150
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:01.280
fully respect the Rams and I fully respect the Seahawks.
1151
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:03.960
I think both those teams are doing really really good things.
1152
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:07.800
But like, oh green Bay, green Bay, is this this
1153
01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:11.280
big problem green Bay is this they know Francos can
1154
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:16.199
beat them? Well they did, oh Dallas, Oh well Dallas
1155
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:20.599
has Dallas has George Pickens and ceedee lamb oh and
1156
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:23.440
up them dumped them.
1157
01:05:24.239 --> 01:05:25.840
So I think the.
1158
01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:30.039
Stigma isn't anymore like, oh, well they're frauds and they
1159
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:33.599
they can't beat good teams. Well they've beaten good teams,
1160
01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:34.920
so now what's see.
1161
01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:37.440
Exc love I love the notion that people think that
1162
01:05:37.480 --> 01:05:39.639
they're frauds because I've said it here, Pat And it's like,
1163
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:43.079
you are not accused of being a fraud if you're asked.
1164
01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:47.880
You know. It's like as anybody convince themselves or made
1165
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.239
the comment that the Chiefs are frauds this year. Now
1166
01:05:50.360 --> 01:05:55.320
it's like because they're mid ass teamed, they're cooked. They
1167
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:59.280
are cooked exactly, so now you are not like if
1168
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:02.519
you're not win games. And here's where the fraud label
1169
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:04.880
comes from. It's because they kept winning games that people
1170
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:08.199
thought that it wasn't sustainable. But what do we say,
1171
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:13.880
we saw We saw yet another second half comeback from
1172
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:16.639
this team. Got how many is that now? Is that
1173
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:19.960
is that like nine on the season that they've on
1174
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:20.519
the season.
1175
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:25.079
I think he already has the same amount of fourth
1176
01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:30.079
quarter comebacks as John Elway did in his first two seasons.
1177
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:35.199
Interesting, And so here's the thing, Like the people that
1178
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:37.519
think that they're frauds and that they're saying it's just
1179
01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:40.159
not sustainable. They can't keep winning this way. That's only
1180
01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:43.480
way that they've won. They've won every conceivable way against
1181
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:46.960
every conceivable team that you could think of. And that's
1182
01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:50.639
what makes this team so dangerous. And I'd said it before, Pat, Like,
1183
01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:55.440
what's not sustainable is what the Broncos did in twenty
1184
01:06:55.719 --> 01:06:58.840
thirteen when they kicked the shit out of everybody, Like
1185
01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:04.079
that was it team in run record setting year. If
1186
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:07.480
they didn't beat a team by two touchdowns, fans would
1187
01:07:07.480 --> 01:07:09.559
be like, wow, we didn't look very good that game.
1188
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:11.199
Like that wasn't a very good game. I think they
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finished fourteen and two. They really ran through everybody in
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the playoffs, and then they got absolutely embarrassed famously in
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the Super Bowl. Why because that brand of football and
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the way that they were playing was not sustainable. Like,
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what do you think what they were able to do
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in twenty thirteen or what they're doing in this the
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Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five, this is far
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more sustainable.
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My worst nightmare, Mario, my worst nightmare actually keeps me
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up at night. We get to the Super Bowl sent
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San Francisco. It's great, Broncos get the ball first, awesome,
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first first snap the game, Wattenberg throws that stay back
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four feet outside and Bo has to do a Superman
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leap and he's doing like the Jordan logo, catching the
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ball with one hand. And then he throws a screen
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path first play of the game. Oh god, it'd be
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a nightmare.
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And now and now that's gonna be my new sleep
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paralysis demon. So yeah, it's just wattenbird over Bo's head
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over and over and over again. Uh, Pat, go ahead
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and plug the amazing show that you do with Brie every.
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Week, Believe in Broncos on the Believe Network with my wonderful,
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amazing co host Brette Mastas, who had an open gym
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Tonight's or open house tonight that it would have been crazy, stressful.
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You can find that on the Believe Network anywhere you
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find your podcasts. Go subscribe to that show. Brit and
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I drop tons of knowledge on that program. Uh, it's fantastic,
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it's awesome.
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That's my favorite show.
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It's it should be everybody's favorite show.
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We keep it to be everybody's favorite show.
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We keep it real, We keep it real. So yeah,
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believe in Broncos on the Believe Network.
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Love you, Pat, It so good to have you back.
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Coach Peyton, how do we do tonight? Gosh, your own
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little internet shows? You're driving me crazy. We tried our best.
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Maybe one day, coach, maybe one day, coach.
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Nice to Luca roof of our shows.
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Congrats on twelve and two, coach, but job's not done.
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You know what's better than twelve and two? Thirteen and two.
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This has been out to you to just man Mario,
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but Tansey, Patrick Keoti. We will see y'all next week,
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hopefully to discuss another win. Okay, I love y'all, Bye bye,
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Hey Bill me in the move for a Switcher, I
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hit the hit the road to that hit up, I
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hit the stage. I leave with money.
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That's a stick up st