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Brown.
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Oh you know, let's do some American music.
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Merca who.
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Lack motorcycles and beer and.
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Guns, yeah, Donalds and stuff. It's hard to be an American.
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Were at least don know, I got nothing anything, and
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it would please anymore.
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You should run away from America. Get where you at.
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Yah, Mexico, you'reine first place on the North American world.
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We go Mexico, Canada and Amercle.
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Not great. We really nailed it. I like that. We
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did like a lot of mash up, but a lot
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of Team America. That was all of it. Yea, yeah,
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that was related to the podcast. Everybody, this is like
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nothing to do with what we're going to talk about. It
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just is the fourth of July too. We're recording on
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the on the third of July. You'll get this when
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you get this.
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But there's currently a basset hound that's terrified, yeah, because
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the fireworks are already happening.
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Yeah, so she's having she's on my lap.
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Yeah, our little Sergeant Pepper.
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It's funny. I used to love fireworks until I got
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a dog, and now I'm like, everybody needs to stop
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now I dog.
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I am a Karen of fireworks, Like, fuck them all.
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When they start like popping off, Like a part of
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me wants to go out and be like quick, Oh.
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Pepper wants some of my drink. Oh what are we
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drinking today?
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Well, in honor of what we're going to talk about,
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which is the twenty eight days or twenty eight time
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period franchise, Yeah, we can talk about the whole franchise.
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We're going to talk about that, twenty eight Laters.
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The twenty eight Laters, twenty eight insert time later. The zombies, Yeah,
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the zombie Actually, no zombies, they're just pints.
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They're just angry ragers. They're just ragers. Yeahamn, that's what
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they're called.
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You know. Anyways, And we're gonna have a bloody Mary,
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and it's a bloody already. You're right, because we're using tequila.
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I forgot to bring in the bottle of mix that
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we used. But there was this incredible bloody Mary mix
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called Dill Mary's, Dill Mary's. It's like Mary's dill pickle
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or something.
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Mary's still pickles one in a jar. Not recommended enough,
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especially if you're a dill pickle fan.
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Is. We got a jug of this once for a
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week away. It was so good.
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I feel like we finished it a day and a half.
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Yeah, we got like a thing of Tito's and a
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jar of that or like a jug of that, and
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we just like had bloody marries all day and Jesus.
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Yeah it was so good. That would be a good
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camping snack. Yeah, that is.
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Actually a good camping drink, just in general that it's
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too warm. Yeah, you can't have it be warm. Yeah
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you need ice.
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Yeah, it's de little olives and a little pickle garnish
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in there. I love a garnish on it.
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Yeah, And if you're an Insta user, you can find
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us and look at the photo of it that we're
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gonna post us.
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Yeah. Yeah, so be excited. It's la, it's lovely. There's
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a little lady, and then it's just fucking Santa Moarte.
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Oh sorry. A friend gave that to me when she
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went on a trip to Mexico, which he liked because
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it's like the idea of it is don't accept like,
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don't accept scraps, can't she phrased it. Yeah, so very cool. Yeah,
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like ask for more. So I'm like very interested in it.
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But yeah, but also I like a little skull totem
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in my house was like very upset with really yeah,
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because it's like a it looks like a skeleton in
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a in a Saint outfit.
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Oh so he got very Yeah, he was like, I
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don't like, this is unacceptable, scary, it's.
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Going to bring demons in. I'm like, it's the opposite.
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You know what if it did, would it be so bad? Yeah?
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Demons are everywhere where? Can you do?
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I feel like, you know, maybe if you made friends
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with the demons.
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Yeah. And he's also the one who made a what
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do you call it? The that's the Oiji board. He
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made a Wigi board table.
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He brought that really good point. He brought that house.
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And I was really excited about it. Yeah.
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Actually it's pretty. It's my favorite piece of furniture in
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the house. It's my favorite piece of your furniture in
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the house too.
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I think you should like he made a bunch of
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other tables. I'm like, you should just do the Wii seriously,
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it's all so hard.
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Yeah, I know it's a lot of work, but like
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I'm telling you, dude, people horror fans have money and
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they're willing to spend it. M hmm on your tables.
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Yeah, on your.
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Spooky if you're listening, make some more Oiji board table.
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Please make more spooky tables and we can tell the horror.
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I want one.
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Yeah, we could celebrate the horror fast.
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We'll just stand on the street perfect Honestly, who doesn't
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love to buy a two hundred dollar three hundred dollars
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table on the side of the street walk.
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I feel people would like a little record table that
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has like that on And then you're like, as I'm saying,
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and I'm like, that's some ship. I t you to
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get me. If I like in that mood and I'm vacationally, I'm.
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Like, all right, I've had a couple of drinks.
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It is. This is a special piece. It's one of
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the we're never going to get it again.
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You know, every time you look at it, you're going
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to remember that trip exact moment.
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It's going to be like fucking awesome. Yeah. It hits
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all the ways of like, you know, buying ship. Yeah,
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that's how I can go to buy ship. I'm all
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describing exactly how I get on every vacation. Every brand
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knows how to get us.
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Yeah, man, if you really want me to spend money
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on your stuff, just catch me on vacan yeah, catch
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me in Cabo and after a few drinks. Yeah, because
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I don't think money existed that I stop caring. I
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my mind goes into like barter system mode. If we
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finished this pod, we go back to the place where
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we grabbed a pre drink and I walk around in
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those shops.
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Money no longer exists because we've had some drin. Buy
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a little little jewelry. I'm going to get to get
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a plant. Yeah, some's coming home with me.
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Okay, Like I I don't know what to do with myself,
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and I had to It's my favorite thing to do
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is ecronomy. Yeah, no one, and you know, we got
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to enjoy things before the rage takes over.
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Yeah, thanks for bringing that back. I really well, I
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just it's it's a little close to home right now.
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Oh my god, sorry, go ahead. I have to Okay, yes,
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it's a little close to home right now. I have
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to bring up because we talked about this movie on
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the Horror Pod briefly and you were like so excited
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and like, oh my god, you have to call me out.
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This is so funny because you guys can go back
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and listen, or you can if you remember it.
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Actually, because you all should call me on this and
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I'll explain myself after Mallory calls me out.
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But we were talking about, like, you know, in the moment,
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j and was like, oh my god, it's the greatest
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horror movie of all time. Naomi Harris like, oh my god,
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this is like a seminal horror like after it like
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video games and everything like copy this movie. And we
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were like, you know, waxing poetic about it, and Jim
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hadn't seen the movie.
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Yeah, so you guys need to understand three things about
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me now. I don't know if I don't actually have
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a count I just say that. I don't know if
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you've ever known does that about me? But I always
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be like things and then I don't. Sometimes I stop
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at one. I don't see how any anymore. I was
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counting okay with my poor husband. I'll be like listen,
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and then I'll just stop and I'll be like uh huh.
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Or I'll start a story and get halfway through and quit. Anyways,
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I have ADHD and I very much am like a
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go with the flow kind of person and like a
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people pleaser and like I want.
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People to like me.
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This has been a constant issue my entire life where I,
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in the moment will convince myself, my baby, are you
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gonna get Dawn, that I have seen something, heard something,
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or I just say I have to get out of
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things I can't tell you. On this case, this case,
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I literally thought to myself that I had seen the
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movie in the moment. I remember thinking I don't remember details,
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but I also never remember so many details of movies,
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so I was just like, but I have to have
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seen it right.
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Well, and that yeah. And that's why, probably because you've
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been in conversations before where this like just comes up,
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is like this is like, yes, this is the movie,
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the zombie movie.
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Somewhere along the line generation you know, is somewhere along
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the line you just think like, I have to have
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seen it, and I forget things.
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Yeah, and that's Harris and you're like, ourse so good,
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so good, Chris Eckleston, Wow, me is like they're just incredible,
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and you're like, yeah, I do. Like it's described so
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well that you're like, yeah, sure I saw that.
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So this came up because twenty eight years later, we've
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been excited about coming out for so long, and then
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about a week before the movie, when we were gonna
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like we have been talking about going to see it.
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I've been too busy to see it. And I was
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like the movie was out and had a friend wrote
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us and was like, oh my god, it's so good.
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And I had this moment where I was like, I
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better watch this movie because I'm not sure I've ever
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seen it, and it just hit me. It hit me
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all at once. I was like this whole time, I
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thought I had seen it, but now that I'm like
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kind of seeing little snippets of other things online, you know,
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like it gets every time like a sequel comes up
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then on like Instagram and stuff, all this shit gets
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like re brought up, and it all was coming back
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to me and I was like this is not sounding
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familiar after all.
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Yeah, I think it was great because like in the
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moment I thought we were like, you know, you can
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diving as fuck. Yeah. I was like, wow, this is
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what makes Jane so good at her work is that
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you know, she's just like going with it. And then
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just like yeah, this thing that you're saying you care about,
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I know how good it is. And like I'm like yes,
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I'm I'm always a yes. Yeah, And I thought it
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was great, but I was like, in the after of it,
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I'm like, oh, you could have just said it was
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like yeah, you don't know it, but I yeah.
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And also like I'm not good at admitting I haven't
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seen something or heard something or done something. And I
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think it's because if you're raised like I was, in
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such a really controlled space like whatever they would call
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like a bubble, a little like evangelical bubble. And uh,
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I missed a lot of shit, and as an adult,
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if I admit it, everybody gives me shit constantly for it.
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So somewhere along the.
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Line I learned to date the problem and avoid the problem.
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Sometimes it's conscious, and sometimes it's not, like I've done
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it for so many years that I just don't even
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realize that I'm doing it half of the time.
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I definitely do that with other things, you know, just.
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Like I don't want to go through this whole thing again. Yeah, yeap,
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I totally know that Dan been there.
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I mean for me sometimes with movies, like I mean,
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there's just so many and sometimes I just want to
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know the plot, but I don't necessarily want to watch.
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I'll just like read a Wikipedia I've done it too,
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and then just be like yeah, that film.
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There's films that I would recommend that you only read
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the Wikipedia just get you're fine, Just go to chat
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GBT and ask it like, hey.
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What's the gentleman? Yeah? Is this a movie I should watch?
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Or not? Yeah? Knowing my vibe like you do, Chatgy,
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But just look at my letterbox, twould you? Yeah? Exactly?
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Here's all my letterbox reviews synthesize and sound of you
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like this.
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I'm really bad at letterbox reviews, but I'm so fascinated
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a good one, like a good poppy one that's gonna
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go viral me too. That's my dream, never gonna happen.
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I want, like Iowedebris to like see it and be
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like haha.
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I feel like I said something about twenty eight years
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later yesterday, but it probably just wasn't quite clever enough.
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But I did say something like we've we've basically reached
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like the Mount Olympus of like male frontal though right now, yeah,
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like this was it, Like we don't need anymore more good.
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I've seen plenty of dick now yeah.
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Who Okay, I can't remember this as like a stand
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up comedian or a conversation. Yeah, like Bobby, it was
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Stobby Dobby where like, Okay, there's this up Dobby we
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need to like have Let's get back to its agains again. Yeah,
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I'm like, you know what, I'm on board, don't mind,
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you know, I want to see some tits. We see
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it all Like, I don't understand. You know. What I
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want is some bush. You never see a little bush
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in a movie. I love a bush. Yeah when it happened, Yes, yes, yes.
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Bushes need to be like.
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In a supergraphic way.
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I just want to see women walk out of a
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shower and you see your bush. Yeah, like that's the dream. Yeah,
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that's that's the America bush. I want to limit for me,
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well for me pro all in every film. Oh my god,
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I'm coming for you. This might be a little t
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M I for a audience to know. But I did
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call Eric stick a schlog yesterday and he did not
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like it. So shout out to Eric. Sorry buddy, Yeah
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to Eric Ando, sorry for you and your schan Okay, anyways,
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that's kind of spoiler alert. Okay, so that's something to
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always remember with us. We are not reviewers. We do
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not formally try to not spoil, so we just go
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full on spoil.
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hour or whatever. We don't.
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We're not one of those. Yeah, Like I'm not gonna
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be like, oh no, spoil a review from day one.
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I don't want to think if we can talk about
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it or not. Yeah, I don't want to have to
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have that whole we're drinking, y'all drinking.
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Enjoying it, and we want to talk about it. You can.
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You may listen in you perverts, you fucking purps purse
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with your schalungs and your bush.
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Is that what we're gonna call our listeners now? I mean,
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now we don't we a perpsucking purse. I love it
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so much, all right, So I don't know. Should we
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start with the very first Yeah?
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I mean I okay, I don't know. I hate the
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second one. Yeah, I thought it was a movie. I
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don't want to super get into like the nitty gritty
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of that plot necessarily, but I love it.
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First worth touching on. Yeah, it's gonna matter. We should
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brush on it.
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And I think it's very interesting with like one scene
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in it. Yeah, we could talk about but beginning. Yeah,
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so I love the first movie, love the third movie.
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Like letting that out of the way, it was maybe
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my favorite zombie movie that I've seen since the first one. Yeah,
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I'm on board.
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Yeah, and I mean me too, even though I did
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just watch the first one the same week that I watched.
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I'm so glad we did that. Actually, we had like
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a little marathon where we did the first two and
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then moved to the theaters and watched the last one.
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Yeah, it was perfect because everything was so fresh in
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your mind and you you can catch those like not
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Easter eggs, but the vibe.
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You really feel it. And somebody in a.
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In a movie review I watched said something like it's
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an old school style of filmmaking or something, and I
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was like, I didn't get that at all.
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It didn't feel But I think it's that that Danny
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Boyle like he specialized in him. Yes, exactly, he specialized
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that he invented these like cuts and sort of the
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way he does it. Yeah, this sort of fast cam
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that makes you a little nauseous but also like really
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in it.
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Yeah, he's the inventor. So it's not old school, it's
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his school.
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Yeah, it feels it feels dated because everybody just like
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went whole hog. I mean, yeah, I'm.
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Sorry, you're fine. So when the first movie came out,
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and it came out, and then like every all of
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the movies, horror movies after bless You came and kind
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of copied that style, so it kind of got burnt
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out right where now if you watch movies from that
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time period, it's like all that and you can literally
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watch a movie and be like, I know the years
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this movie was made.
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Yeah, exactly, Yeah, because it feels like that one feels
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like a two thousand and five movies, you know, like
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it just is of that time two thousand and five.
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Yeah, and it was just horror. Everybody did that, but it.
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Was like Danny Boyle did it, and then every video
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game did it. Every like every movie was like doing
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this like Danny Boyle thing. It was crazy. Is it
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actually Danny Boyle? I keep saying that. Yeah, we should
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probably double check it's boil. I think I know al
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Alex Garland wrote the script because it sounds I'm obsessed
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with him.
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Yes, So Garland is incredible. Yeah, he's my I don't know,
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favorite writer, writer, director. Yeah, yeah, you should have one
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of those. Everybody should have one.
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I don't have one. You don't have one. I don't
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have my favorite writer.
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Well maybe I do. Yeah, Jordan Peele.
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For sure, gret Jordan.
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Peel was the producer, right, Jordan Peele was involved in
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the Third One? Was he?
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Oh, maybe I'm crazy. I think you were thinking of
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weapons or him, Jordan Peele. I think of him.
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I don't know what what's weapons?
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Uh? That was a movie. I don't know. I don't
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know a lot about it, but I know that Peel
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got into like a bidding war over it, and I
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think he lost. Oh, this is what happened. He got
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into like a bidding war over it and lost. And
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then he fired his management team that he's been working
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with from the beginning of his career because they like
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because basically they told him that that's incredible. Yeah, Like
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if I'm gonna hate, I mean, you know, sorry for them,
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but yeah, they basically they basically told him like, if
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you meet like this major production company's bid, they're going
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to give it to you. And like even if they
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like outbid it after like you just have to meet
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their initial bit and then like they outbiit it wrong. Yeah, yeah,
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and he lost it and he was like, and he's
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been furious about it. I guess, yeah, fair which.
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Yeah, what's that one with Gunny Boyle?
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I was so ripe so oh thank god, Wow, thank god.
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I wanted to watch that.
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Speaking of just sorry, I really Oh yeah, monkey Man
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is what I'm thinking of the heute produced. Yeah, not
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even close to what I was saying, So please ignore me.
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That's not even not even a little bit what I meant.
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I wanted to see that football movie he directed.
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Yeah, him, I'm very excited about that. Oh that's him.
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Yes, I am very excited about that one. Okay, So
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the first one. What do we love about it?
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I mean, what I love about it is it looks
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almost like it's on home video. Do you know, Like
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the camera work is like incredible. It's very cheap in
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a lot of ways, Like it doesn't look like a
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very expensive big It's almost like a precursor. It feels
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like sort of in the vein of found footage.
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Yeah, it feels like a corn footage.
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It's like a different you know.
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It's at present different than found footage.
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Yeah, but it hits that it but like almost like authenticity.
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And just you know, for you listeners, we are going
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to do an entire podcast about found footage because we're
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big fans. We just talked about this, like we just
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talked about it, but it does it kind of scratches
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the same.
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Mitch, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I think like those opening moments,
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like you know, they had such a small budget, where
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it's Killy and Murphy waking up from a coma and
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then walking around a deserted London. Yeah, and that is
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so I mean, I think that's the scariest thing in
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any horror movie ever to me. It's being alone, being
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that alone and also not knowing why, having no context,
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and like one thing like watching it, like he's passing
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newspapers that are like evacuation quarantine and like doesn't sit
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to like read them.
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He just keeps walking shocked and dazed. I think, yeah,
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we have to think, like he's been in a coma, right,
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so your brain doesn't just come back either.
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This is the thing. Okay, So like why he's in
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a coma but he is like a living person. Why
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was he not attacked? Like why did the ragers leave
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him alone? And it was They kind of bring it
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back in the third movie where doctor Kelson, the the
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Ray Fines character, he said he like has himself smeared
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an iodine. Oh yeah, and he said they don't like it.
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And I guess there's like a treatment for when you're
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because like the reason he's in a coma is because
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he was a bike messenger and he like had some
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brain injury and when they do that kind of imaging,
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they put like a kind of iodine in your blood
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straight to like get the imaging.
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This makes such perfect. I was like, whoa, So he
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was like straight up filled.
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Was something that made him a little repulsive to them.
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Yeah, so nobody wanted to attack him. Yeah, that's amazing.
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In that initial outburst.
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In that first time man, Yeah, wow, yeah, that's crazy.
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I was like into that.
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That's a really good connection. And he's like he's also
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just very out of it, which.
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I think makes sense. He's also really dehydrated, very like starving. Yeahs,
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like the scene where he's like scrabbling for like a
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Fanta or whatever. Yeah, like he's just like sugar the
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whole time. That's all. He's like, they're just eating junk
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food because that's the only thing that's like left. Even
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in twenty eight days, you know, like.
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Yeah, well you have to think like, granted, but it's
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been twenty eight days, so any fresh food is spoiled. Yeah,
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and all you have is canned food and processed food.
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And it's so funny.
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I think about that, like right now in the world,
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how people are so like all I want is organic,
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like fresh food, and like you know, like this like
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push for that, and then in the long run you're
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like okay, but like just so you know, all that's
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going to shit at the end of times all you
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get is canned beans.
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Yeah, then you're gonna be like wishing there was like
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Twinkies and.
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Doritos, just longing for a dwinki.
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Yeah, because you'll die of starvation. Yeah you can, like
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you'll die of yees chemicals.
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Yeah, there's one before the other. I'll take it.
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Yeah.
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Anyways, it's funny, Yeah, anything that's he's uh. I just
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really enjoyed the humanity of the first one. I thought
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it was very human and it's really the first time
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you see in cinema the idea of like the sociopath
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enjoying the death around them.
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Yeah, like that Egleston character.
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Yeah, you really don't. I've never really seen much of
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that before. Like, don't get me wrong, there's plenty of
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horror movies. Yeah, but that idea of like a power
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trip sociopath who's had to live a certain way, but
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then something in the world changes and now he gets
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to rule it. It's like, this is what I've been
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waiting for feeling.
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Yeah, I think. Okay, real fast. If you haven't seen
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these movies, very quick summary is Kelly and Murphy wakes
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up from a coma into a deserted London. He like
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you know, finds out that there's these zombie ragers. They
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start chasing him. He meets up with Naomi Harris and
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they kind of team up together. Naddybody about yeah, and
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then they kind of go on the road. They meet
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with like Brendan Gleeson and his daughter and then they
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form like a little found family for like a moment,
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and then they escape to the countryside of England and
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then they run into some military guys who basically decide that, uh,
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they they need women to like repopulate the youth of
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the earth here. Yeah, the youth. Well what's crazy.
485
00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:14.000
Also, what's crazy about that is that they've obviously lost
486
00:22:14.000 --> 00:22:14.440
their minds.
487
00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:16.839
Yes, immediately twenty eight days, like that is not I mean,
488
00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:18.759
it's not much time, I think you Like, I mean
489
00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:20.839
there's like a couple of those days. These guys were
490
00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:22.880
already psychos. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
491
00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.279
Like they're there and they've been waiting for this opportunity.
492
00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:29.519
And I don't think that it's by chance that they're
493
00:22:29.559 --> 00:22:31.920
all military members, yes see.
494
00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:33.599
And that's what I think is interesting between the first
495
00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:35.119
one and the second one. The first one is very
496
00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:38.079
anti military. It's very like, you know, like there's this
497
00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:40.880
instinct where like that's like the there's like a satime.
498
00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:43.440
To kill you've been taught to be like like yeah,
499
00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:48.640
like the military driver, you're like making of people sociopathy.
500
00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:50.880
You know, but that's like more dangerous than the actual monsters.
501
00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:53.200
And in the second movie, I feel like they sort
502
00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:56.640
of make them the heroes, particularly the American military. They're like, oh,
503
00:22:56.720 --> 00:22:59.480
these are the good guys. And it's because the journey
504
00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:01.720
right sort of it's like the Jeremy Renner character.
505
00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.440
Mostly it's a confusing The second one's confusing to me
506
00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:07.640
because the Jeremy Renner, for sure, he's like, no, I
507
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:09.720
don't want to kill kids, but like the rest of
508
00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:11.880
them will like destroyed an entire city.
509
00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:13.720
They didn't give a fuck. That's true.
510
00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:16.880
So I don't know, I don't know. I think he
511
00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:20.599
was like, yeah, I guess it's not all military. Yeah,
512
00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:21.759
not all cops.
513
00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.680
Yeah, that's okay, that's what they're doing.
514
00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:30.480
We'll give you one. It's just Jeremy Rens. Just shout
515
00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:35.359
out Jeremy Renner, not Jerremy Renn. And there's a military
516
00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:38.599
person and it's not Jeremy Renner. Don't trust it. Yeah,
517
00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:41.200
what if it is Jeremy Renner, you're probably probably Okay,
518
00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:43.880
what's crazy to me? Okay, we're skipping and I'm so
519
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:46.200
sorry we'll have to come back. But what's crazy to
520
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:48.720
me in the second one is how many humans were
521
00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:53.640
just like, oh, they're going to open a testing neighborhood,
522
00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:57.079
like the first people to move back into the city.
523
00:23:58.039 --> 00:24:03.240
They are so trust of this entire situation, not just
524
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:06.319
the military, but of the rage virus of everything. They're
525
00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:08.920
so desperate to get back into some kind of normalcy
526
00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:11.759
and they go back. Yeah, Like, what's crazy to me
527
00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.519
is how many people like we're the first. I'm never
528
00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:17.200
the first. Yeah, I'm never the first.
529
00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:17.720
We think about it.
530
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.359
Let me see how the like the second and third
531
00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:20.880
wave go.
532
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.400
Twenty eight weeks is like half a year ish, right,
533
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:26.440
that's like six months. Yeah, I think so around the
534
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.200
last six months. Yeah, so like little less little less
535
00:24:30.200 --> 00:24:32.559
than six months. That's not a lot of time. Not
536
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:33.200
a lot of time.
537
00:24:33.319 --> 00:24:36.160
Yeah, I'd still be in therapy, living in another city,
538
00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:39.160
and quite frankly, I'd be like this is my new home. Yeah,
539
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:41.720
i would be going anywhere. Yeah, Like I'm not going
540
00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:42.519
back to that place.
541
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:42.799
Though.
542
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:44.720
If you think about it, like foods running out, you
543
00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:47.240
probably haven't had like water, fresh water like that can
544
00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.359
be well.
545
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:50.680
I mean I want to know what happened to them,
546
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:53.559
Like were they in a refugee camp where they were
547
00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.559
being taken care of from another like in another country,
548
00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:01.599
because that's what I'm imagining, because like England wasuarantined, So
549
00:25:01.680 --> 00:25:05.200
these are the people that were never on in England. Yeah,
550
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:08.440
and wherever they were, they just stayed. So like if
551
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.640
the kids, for instance, that were out visiting or doing
552
00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.000
some kind of whatever, they were in Spain, yeah, somebody
553
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:14.680
took care of them.
554
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:16.880
Yeah, that was refuge they talked about the beginning. Yeah,
555
00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.640
the refugee the English people, which is interesting I would
556
00:25:19.640 --> 00:25:21.799
not come back to England, That's what I'm saying. Sorry,
557
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:23.640
I would make a life there. I thought you meant
558
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:25.759
like if you had escaped London and were like living
559
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:27.400
in the countryside or something, you'd be like.
560
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:29.319
I want to talk about all those stupid idiots and
561
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:32.119
we're just like also the first wave to try out
562
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:33.319
our society again.
563
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.799
Yeah, and England you Yeah, I'd be like no. And
564
00:25:35.839 --> 00:25:37.599
if my kids were I was like, no, stay in
565
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:40.480
staying there, You're not safer, And they're like, oh, but
566
00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:43.039
it's crowded in there, and I'm like, it's not safe here.
567
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:46.720
No, Like it's not safe until actually probably ever, Like
568
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:50.480
I wouldn't trust that place, yeah, for a long time,
569
00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:53.359
not counting the trauma that you go through, Like I
570
00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:55.640
wouldn't want to go back just because of the triggering
571
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:57.480
of just being back in that.
572
00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:02.920
Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, but like yeah, but the first one.
573
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:05.200
What I really love is like I think Naomi Harris,
574
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:08.319
like her character is so unique in horror, in the
575
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.759
horror genre, and that she is the most capable person.
576
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.160
I don't think there's been like anybody as capable until
577
00:26:14.200 --> 00:26:16.799
like Nicholas Cage and Mandy Do you know what I mean,
578
00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:20.359
like a horror you know, like who just like can
579
00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:23.880
really clearly see the solution and kind of moves with
580
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:26.480
it with like a very decisive and like And what
581
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:28.400
I like about this story is it's really about her
582
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.519
learning that it's not just surviving, that you have to
583
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:32.519
like find things to live for.
584
00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:36.160
Yeah, not just like why survive just to survive?
585
00:26:36.279 --> 00:26:38.279
Yeah, you have to find the things that she's like
586
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:39.359
proven she can do that.
587
00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:41.799
But like yeah, at some point it's like, well what's
588
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.440
the point then, Yeah, why did you fight so hard?
589
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:46.640
So I think they're romance like with her and Killian Murphy.
590
00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:49.119
It's like it's a really nice slow burn, love it.
591
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:51.119
And it's also like, you know need like this is
592
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.759
like a good person on the other side of it.
593
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:55.920
There's a trust on it, right that she has They
594
00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:00.480
both have to like learn and grow and understand. And
595
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:02.680
I'm glad that it's a slow burn too, because it
596
00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:07.759
feels very like it's it's in a sharp contrast to
597
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:09.559
the military men that just want to rape.
598
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:11.720
Yeah exactly. They don't see her as a person.
599
00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:12.799
Yeah, they don't.
600
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.200
See how capable she is, you know. They like and
601
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.640
then like they immediately try to strip her of everything
602
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.839
that makes her strong and put her in this like dress.
603
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.000
And yeah, you know, they try to pretty her up
604
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.559
and like make this whole thing. And what's really sad
605
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:28.119
too is the kid man. Yeah that it's fourteen years fourteen,
606
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:30.720
and they're ready to do it, totally willing to make
607
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:32.720
her a brood mare. And then they get mad because
608
00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:36.240
she wants to drug her. Yeah, like yeah, I want
609
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.039
to be drugged forty one years old.
610
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:39.960
I want to be so sad weird like the little
611
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.000
girl is because her dad has just died as well.
612
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:44.160
The rage vivers, which I think is so scary about
613
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:46.599
it is they show you how little blood it takes,
614
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:48.880
like it just a little gets in his eye and
615
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.640
it's like seconds he's gone, you know, and it's so fast,
616
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.799
and then that's really awful. So she's just has that trauma.
617
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.160
So when like, uh, they're they're about to be raped,
618
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.519
and Naomi Harris has like a real collection of drugs
619
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.519
because she used to be a pharmacist, like so well
620
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.920
suited for this perfect but she's like, you know, like
621
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:09.720
are you going to kill me? And she's like said,
622
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:11.839
so I was like dead, you know. She's like, yeah,
623
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:13.680
I would you know, maybe just kill me. You know,
624
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:15.880
it's almost what I took from and just kill me. Yeah,
625
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:17.880
And she's like, no, I'm going to drug you so
626
00:28:17.880 --> 00:28:20.440
you don't feel anything, you know, so you just don't
627
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:24.079
feel it. And that's such a kind gesture. Yeah, you know,
628
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:26.799
she's also not doing it for herself, like she's trying
629
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.799
to stay lucid but and go through whatever she's gonna do.
630
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:31.640
She's going to go through it herself, but she.
631
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.680
For this baby, you know, she wants to, you know,
632
00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:37.920
make it easier. Like that's such a hard choice, right,
633
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:40.759
and that she's so tough, but like there's no way
634
00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:42.680
out of this, like it's only that forward, and she
635
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:44.079
like makes that choice so quickly.
636
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.119
And like these these men are so messed up for
637
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.960
more than that too. Like they have one of the
638
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.079
rage virus victims.
639
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:55.079
Like Jack, it's one of their own, you know, it's
640
00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:55.440
one of.
641
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.759
Their own that has turned and he's shackled and he's
642
00:28:57.839 --> 00:28:59.960
hurting himself and he's starving.
643
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:00.640
And he's died.
644
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:04.440
I mean, he's dead. He's like he's gone, and they
645
00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.680
just keep him alive, which is like it's really sad
646
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:07.960
to me.
647
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.480
And they're experimenting on him. Yeah, they're doing they're starting him.
648
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:13.319
They're trying to see how long he'll live, you know,
649
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.160
without food or it's gross.
650
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.480
Yeah, uh so that was gross too, And I part
651
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:21.480
of part of the end there where he like is
652
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.319
my favorite time is like where Killy and Murphy's like
653
00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:28.839
I'm going to release this guy, right, just moving along,
654
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.920
Like we've touched in on like how incredible that movie was.
655
00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:35.000
The second one sucked.
656
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.160
Yeah, I think it's a really great balance of like
657
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:39.559
the first one of like the loss of humanity, then
658
00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:42.119
they rEFInd it and then it's sort of lost again,
659
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:45.920
and then these three survivors like, yeah, they learned to
660
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:47.640
re like to rebuild something.
661
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:50.039
What's interesting to me too is that both movies do
662
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:52.480
end with one of those like twists. Right, So in
663
00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.160
the first movie, you have no idea that England, like
664
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:57.160
that the UK has been quarantined.
665
00:29:57.480 --> 00:29:57.880
You have no.
666
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:01.319
Idea the entire movie, the assumption is that this is
667
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:02.319
all of the United State.
668
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.160
Yeah, because there's a moment where they're like I heard
669
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.079
that it got to Paris, So they got.
670
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:09.279
To Paris and where that's everywhere it's done, and so
671
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:11.640
you just wonder. But then at the end, there's like
672
00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:15.200
planes flying overhead and they make this whole thing and
673
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:16.680
the assumption is that they get out.
674
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.000
Yeah, I'm not sure that's true.
675
00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:22.519
Right, there's no because in the second and third movie
676
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.039
there's not a lot to back that up. Yeah, Like
677
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.400
even in the second one, the people they're bringing back
678
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:30.920
are not people that they had saved from it. Yeah,
679
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.640
they left them there. So for all intense purposes, they
680
00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:36.440
lived and died.
681
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.519
In the UK, And like you can be hopeful, but
682
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:40.880
there's really yea, I think there's not.
683
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:44.440
Like chances are they either ended up with the rage virus,
684
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.720
killed by the rage virus, or died of old age,
685
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:50.440
which would be crazy, yeah, and very hard to believe.
686
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.160
But you still think, like maybe they were ones of
687
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.400
the first people that started one of the little towns
688
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:58.279
that we see in twenty eight years later, Like maybe
689
00:30:58.279 --> 00:30:59.319
they're one of those people.
690
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:01.799
Yeah they got to live their lives. Yeah, which maybe
691
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:05.480
like you know, Naomi survived but like the other younger
692
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:06.000
girls didn't.
693
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:08.319
Yeah, yeah, it's anything right.
694
00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:10.920
Yeah, I would love for Naomio Harris to come back
695
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:11.920
in one of these three movies.
696
00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:15.839
Now what is important from the second movie, I would
697
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:17.279
love it too, even as an old lady.
698
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.400
She wouldn't be that old, would be Naomi Harris. Now, oh,
699
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:23.160
if they go because the way the movies could work
700
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.720
is that it happened in two thousand and two and
701
00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.480
twenty eight years later is basically now, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
702
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:30.720
Oh that's true. Would be here now?
703
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:33.519
Yeah, but then, oh that's true, like she's just twenty
704
00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.160
eight years ago. Would yeah, because I'm pretty sure it
705
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.240
was Literally it's been twenty years or so.
706
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:42.400
She'd baby be like forty. I don't know why. I
707
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:45.119
just think she'd be an old lady. Yeah, I was
708
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:47.079
killy Murphy. I think it's fifty now.
709
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.519
It's just like this idea where I am so old.
710
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.440
I just can't imagine she'd be ancient.
711
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:56.480
They're going to be in their eighties at this point.
712
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.200
I mean, my god, they must be dead. Yeah, it
713
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:03.960
would be really cool if they came back. The important
714
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.400
thing from the second movie that I think is important
715
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.160
that you have to know it in order to understand
716
00:32:09.200 --> 00:32:13.960
the third movie is that some people are immune to
717
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:15.839
the virus, but they still carry it.
718
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:18.440
Yeah, they're basically the typhoid Mary's of the Rage.
719
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:20.559
Yes, so they can still pass it on.
720
00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:23.680
Yeah, so they're like active carriers. They're not immune, they are,
721
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.640
but they are transmitting capable of transmitting the disease exactly.
722
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:29.400
Which at the end of the second movie you see
723
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:36.519
the girl and her brother in the helicopter from My brother.
724
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:38.480
Has been attacked at this point and has been infected
725
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:39.279
but turns out to.
726
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:41.480
Be also has that typhoid marry.
727
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:42.119
Yes. Yeah.
728
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:46.559
The other thing there is I'm surprised that then they
729
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:49.839
didn't take it and say because to me, they flew
730
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.920
out of country. But maybe they just flew to a
731
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:53.039
base in the UK.
732
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.920
I think the plan and in the ending it implies
733
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.799
that they're in France. Yeah, so then that the contulated
734
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:00.480
and rants and.
735
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:03.680
So somewhere they contained it then, because you think, I
736
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:04.720
think they pushed.
737
00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:07.000
It back enough and then they contained it on the island.
738
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:07.640
That's what I am.
739
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.920
Yeah, but France, I mean, because if that child made
740
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.920
it to France, it's in France. Yeah, but in twenty
741
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:17.039
eight years later, it's still just contained to the UK.
742
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.279
Yeah. I think that to me implies that they like
743
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.519
eradicated it from the rest of the continent and it's
744
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.000
just and then that's why they're so severe with the quarantine.
745
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.480
They're like, we're not touching this, like there is no help.
746
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:28.440
You are alone.
747
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.960
I'm so glad you're signed to me. I'm slow, but
748
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:31.480
I get it.
749
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:33.799
No, I mean, I think it's like a lot of implied.
750
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:38.799
No, but I see how you're implying, Like I follow it. Yeah,
751
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.200
which I like the implication. I like implied. I like
752
00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:44.119
to have to work. That's my favorite thing in movies.
753
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.000
I hate it when movies spell it out for me.
754
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:48.519
Yeah, And I like it makes some different interpretations that
755
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:49.359
you know.
756
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.319
Well, but yours actually brings it together. Mine is like
757
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:53.920
what the fuck happened to the rest of the world.
758
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.599
Yours is correct, Like it has to be because.
759
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:59.440
Well because in the second world, they're still basically eradicated
760
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:01.799
the disease, the rage virus is gone.
761
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:03.279
Except for this one woman with.
762
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:06.359
This one woman who is a carrier. Goddamn. Yeah. And like,
763
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.199
oh my god, that first scene in the second movie
764
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:13.199
is so good. It's so intense, and it's kind of
765
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.239
like what I wanted from the first movie. Like I
766
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.360
think it's so great that he wakes up in you know,
767
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.400
just like desolation. Oh my god, I gotta say, like
768
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:22.880
that the scene where he goes into the church and
769
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.480
there's these and it's so it's like my favorite like
770
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:28.280
horror scene in that it's so understated. All it is
771
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.599
is two men turning around really quickly and making like
772
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:34.639
a face, you know, and it's so fine. Yeah, terrify.
773
00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:36.719
It's just like it's like fast camera work and you're like,
774
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.239
what the what the first of Oh my god, are
775
00:34:39.239 --> 00:34:41.119
you talking about the entry of the second movie. I'm
776
00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:43.880
talking about the entry of the first movie. The first
777
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:47.440
time we see anybody. Okay, something is wrong here. Yeah,
778
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:51.000
it's his brain finally being like something ain't right. Yeah,
779
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:53.280
like you're getting in this uncanny and it's like it
780
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:55.159
happens in such a way like this isn't right, but
781
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:56.639
I don't know what's wrong. Yeah.
782
00:34:57.760 --> 00:35:00.159
Yeah, he still isn't getting it. He goes upstairs, the
783
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.960
priest comes out and it's obviously up and all he
784
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:04.360
knows to do is just hit him with.
785
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.519
His shopping bag. Yeah. He's like, well, I don't want
786
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:09.559
to kill you, dude. Yeah, and he's like he's like, sorry,
787
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:10.679
I hit you. Yeah.
788
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.079
It's crazy yeah yeah yeah yeah.
789
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:14.400
Oh, and I guess I don't know if we need
790
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:16.360
to say this, but like the virus is caused by
791
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:20.039
human experimentation on chimps. Yes, and then some animal rights
792
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.159
activists try to free them and they get attacked it
793
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.440
and it's spreads that's not spread. So it's basically humans
794
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:28.440
have like created this disease. Yes, it's basically COVID. It's
795
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:34.320
just I'm kidding, kidding, it's pretty much the same.
796
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:38.320
It's pretty much the exact same thing, guys. And if
797
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.119
you don't want COVID, you should wear a goddamn mask
798
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:42.760
and get the goddamn vire vaccine.
799
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.079
Okay, I'm just kidding. I mean, you know what, I'm
800
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:47.280
really good. I gotta say my favorite thing, like really
801
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:49.719
off topic. I think it's very funny right now that
802
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.199
all these maggot people are really wearing masks now that
803
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.199
they're in like ice. It's so fund Yeah. Now they
804
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.159
love them, we love you.
805
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.679
Can't take my mats, ma, don't take my mask away.
806
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:04.880
Now they're very protected fromy.
807
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.519
To wear masks like I'm not like trying to be
808
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:08.599
some kind of like but I did. Yeah, I did
809
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:09.840
when it when it was crazy.
810
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:11.599
I do sometimes if I feel like a little uncomfortable,
811
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:12.880
I'm bad about it in the heat.
812
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.000
But yeah, I'm bad in the heat. I'm just bad
813
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:15.920
because I always forget it.
814
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.119
Yeah, and I work from home. Someone. I still have like.
815
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.760
Good ones, and they all like I didn't use them
816
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:22.440
for so long that they're like lost.
817
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:24.239
Somewhere in my other like in the hamper. I'll discover
818
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:25.000
the when I move.
819
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.920
I'll be like, oh, look at this, this is from
820
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:28.639
another time.
821
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:33.400
Yes, okay, back to it.
822
00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:37.880
So uh the wuhan virus so just kidding, okay, so
823
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:40.599
the chimps. Yes, then it gets out. So we've made
824
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:41.440
it basically through.
825
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.599
Like you know, it's like the second movie. Yeah, that
826
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:47.360
interest scene where it's like Robert Carlyle, who I think
827
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.159
is so good in this Oh my god, he truly. Yeah,
828
00:36:50.639 --> 00:36:54.079
there's incredible actors out of me. He's so good.
829
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.880
Here's my thing with this movie. It's not so bad
830
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:01.199
that it's fun. Yes, it's just bad, but not bad.
831
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:02.239
And there's really good parts of it.
832
00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.960
There's like a couple of like you engaged to finish
833
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:06.320
the movie, like what the what the fuck?
834
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.119
What the fuck? Yeah, like what are we doing?
835
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.800
The kid is so stupid? These kids, both of them
836
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.000
are stupid. That's what all three movies tell me. Children
837
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:14.679
are stupid.
838
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.039
Everything about this movie was like these kids, we need
839
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:21.880
to leave them behind. Yes, you know, but but yeah,
840
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:23.719
Like the first scene is like there's like a bunch
841
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.119
of survivors. They're like hiding out and they're making a
842
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.800
go of it, and then the house gets broken into
843
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:33.559
by the rage people and Robert Carl Carlyle, his character, well,
844
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:37.079
his wife goes to save like a stray kid or
845
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.320
they know. The kid leads them the infected there, like
846
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:41.280
he's like banging on the door, that's it, and they
847
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:43.760
let him in, which is like, yeah, of course you would.
848
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:49.440
But but then like they get overrun and the wife
849
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.679
is trying to protect this kid that she just met
850
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.280
and the husband and like they're basically surrounded in a
851
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:57.039
way where the infected are between him and his wife,
852
00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:59.760
and she wants her husband to save them because he's
853
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:01.559
kind of done. I mean, I think it's a real
854
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.880
interesting look at like this like machismo of like, well,
855
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:06.679
I'm the man, and I look out for my family.
856
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:09.519
And in this one moment where he really she really
857
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:12.679
wanted him to step up and do that, he runs away. Yeah.
858
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.119
I thought it was really interesting too, And I think
859
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.159
it's like to me, ninety percent there's people which they
860
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:18.480
could have.
861
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.079
Yeah, like you have to fight if he got to
862
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:21.320
do it. But I think that was like such an
863
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.880
interesting thing for like her to like look at him like, yeah,
864
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.559
like you're the one who's always taken care of like
865
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.440
we've taken care of each other, and now you're abandoning
866
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.400
me like that betrayal. If it was me, I would
867
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:34.000
feel hurt, But like as an outsider, I get why
868
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.000
your instincts take over, you know. And it's such a
869
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.320
good scene where he's running because they're just like running
870
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:41.199
over like the ragers are like running over the fields
871
00:38:41.199 --> 00:38:43.119
and they're just like coming at him and it's.
872
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.239
Just so like not And then he's just in the
873
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:49.360
boat and you could just see his face like did I.
874
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:50.559
And he sees her in the window, right, I think
875
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.400
she's like being down the window like come back, and
876
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:54.519
then she gets ripped away, ripped away.
877
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.920
I feel like that that is like one of those
878
00:38:57.960 --> 00:39:01.559
scenes where yeah, you one hundred percent understand what he did.
879
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:03.079
Yeah, And it kind of makes me.
880
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:07.840
Upset that the movie, I don't know, like it really
881
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.599
like demonizes what he did pretty intensely.
882
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:13.480
I think with these movies, what all three of them
883
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.320
have in common is that they're all making a really
884
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:20.079
strong statement against this, like very masculine now that yes, you.
885
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:21.719
Like.
886
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:23.639
And it's almost like the opposite of like the rage
887
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:26.159
thing right where it's like, there's this virus that causes this.
888
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:29.920
The only alpha that exists is the alpha with the rage, right, Yeah,
889
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:31.320
what does that say exactly?
890
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.199
And it just sort of breaks down, you know, like, yeah,
891
00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:36.320
this is like the sort of toxic thing that we've
892
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:38.079
put on people to like, Oh, well, you're the man,
893
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:39.119
you have to protect me.
894
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.840
Yeah, that's what I felt when she did that. I
895
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:43.840
was like, bitch, are you serious? Like you're making a
896
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.000
choice here, both of you.
897
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:46.800
You've made this choice for this kid, and it's not
898
00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:49.000
the wrong choice, but he no, but you can't force
899
00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:50.079
him to make it with you.
900
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.039
No, Like that's not He is his own man and
901
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.199
you're your own person, and you don't survive that way.
902
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:56.400
I mean, I would be hard too, broken, just because
903
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:58.480
I knew I was going to die. Yeah, but I'm
904
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:00.960
not putting that on Eric. I'm not gonna be like
905
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:01.840
fuck you forever.
906
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.199
Honestly, I thought she was very brave to save the kid.
907
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.480
I don't know that I would even be like that,
908
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:09.159
and that was like those monsters breathing down on you,
909
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:10.920
Like I don't know that I could like not, I
910
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.400
don't even know if I would have noticed the kid
911
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:16.760
in that situation, like I would have been hunting for
912
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.119
the kid. I would have been like, we gotta get
913
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:19.039
out of the kids.
914
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:20.800
A kid like it would have just been gone and
915
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:22.360
been like, ah, funk, what happened to the kid?
916
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:27.039
Kid? That sucks? Whoops. Yeah, I would have forgotten the
917
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:27.719
kid existing.
918
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.679
Yeah, like you just met him, like he's not top
919
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.000
of your mind. Yeah, jesus, Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting.
920
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:39.760
I I just felt like I didn't feel I didn't
921
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:41.079
feel like the dad did the wrong thing.
922
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:43.119
I didn't think so either. I mean, I think that's
923
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.920
such an interesting thing. I feel like the like the
924
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:48.519
conversation about it is very punishing of him. Yeah, but
925
00:40:48.559 --> 00:40:50.519
I'm like in that moment, like it's what I think
926
00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:55.360
almost every person someone I really do and if they're
927
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.199
the heroes, you're just like gonna die with people for fun.
928
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.440
And it wasn't like even if he had sacrificed himself,
929
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:02.159
he could have saved them.
930
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:06.360
They're not better because of it. It's such a there's
931
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:10.679
this thing with like westernized culture, maybe not just Western,
932
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.800
just with humanity. It's just like you are a better
933
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.559
person if you die with people, like you know, you
934
00:41:16.599 --> 00:41:18.199
sacrifice with everyone else.
935
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:19.320
Yeah, you go down with the ship.
936
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.639
Yeah, this idea of like and I'm just like, I
937
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:27.360
don't know, man, Like I think human so strong, we
938
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.679
need living humans to be human on the.
939
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:34.079
Earth, and like kind of getting over trauma and yeah,
940
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:35.960
I mean like in a lot of ways, yes and no,
941
00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:39.159
but like people are really good at sort of adapting.
942
00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:41.880
Yeah, Like the deeper the trauma, the more you adapt.
943
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:42.320
Sure.
944
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:45.920
Yeah, And but I think also we see in twenty
945
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.079
eight years later what adapt really means. Adapt does not
946
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:54.159
mean thrive. You know, you just you learn to just
947
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:57.719
truck along and make it happen and and not to
948
00:41:57.880 --> 00:41:59.760
like immediately shift into the third one.
949
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:02.000
But I you know, I think it's time I just
950
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:03.559
have to point out how much I hate these kids
951
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:07.360
and the ass fucking horrible. It's so stupid because like idiots. Yeah,
952
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.159
because the virus is gone, Yeah, you know, for all
953
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:12.639
they know, like England is safe. They can't go back
954
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:14.400
to their old home. They're going to be relocated.
955
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:16.440
But they're not supposed to go into this one in
956
00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:17.519
part of England and they can't.
957
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:19.000
Well, like, they're in a safe zone and they can't
958
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.559
leave the safe zone and they've got like soldiers around
959
00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:25.559
and it's very protected and it's very regulated. And then
960
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.519
these kids are like, well I don't remember what mom
961
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:29.039
looks like and I don't have her picture.
962
00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.000
Yeah, you know, so they have to go to my house.
963
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:34.119
Yeah, so they break out of the containment zone, which
964
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.039
honestly was way too easy to me. Yeah, these hell
965
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:39.440
kids are just like hopping over. I mean, like Jeremy
966
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.880
Renner spots them and follows them down, but like it
967
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:44.519
takes a while. Yeah, you know, it's.
968
00:42:44.480 --> 00:42:46.480
Kind of stupid how easy it is to leave.
969
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.000
Yeah, but he didn't like walk you talking the cards
970
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.239
at the gate and be like, hey, those kids are getting.
971
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.360
Out, yeah, and then maybe try to stop them.
972
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:56.360
Yeah, Like that felt a little like plot holy to me.
973
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:58.480
Yeah, I think that's a plot hole for sure.
974
00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:00.199
They need the kids to go out so like the
975
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.719
zombies can. Yeah, just like so many plots where it's like, yeah,
976
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:08.039
that honestly better if the mom came on her own volition.
977
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:10.320
I agree, does the safe sign and she saw it
978
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:12.920
and you just see her walking down the street. Yeah,
979
00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:16.320
kind and she looks a little crazy, but she's a person. Yeah.
980
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:18.679
And then they're like what the fuck? And then yeah,
981
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:19.679
they go through the whole.
982
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:21.280
Thing because she's been outside, they like do the rest
983
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.280
of the thing. But I think the way they do
984
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:27.079
breakout and it makes the kid's fault.
985
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:30.880
Yeah too, Like you just are like, Okay, all of
986
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.360
this safe zone goes to ship because of these two
987
00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:34.119
stupid kids.
988
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:35.920
Thousands of people died, like.
989
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.639
Stooped us to be on those kids side.
990
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:39.440
Yeah, that's what I didn't get. I'm like, these two
991
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:42.119
stupid fucking kids, and it's like they're facing them.
992
00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.559
Heroes, you know, like when a movie's like these are
993
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:47.039
the surviving heroes at the end, right, and you were
994
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:49.880
following them, so it's their journey through this whole thing.
995
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:53.199
And like it's like this arrogant idea that we're supposed
996
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:54.800
to be on the kid's side. But the whole time,
997
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:56.559
I'm like, fuck these kids, Dude, don't want to know
998
00:43:56.599 --> 00:43:59.159
what happened to that guy? Yeah, Like I'm just like, ugh,
999
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:01.800
and when do you hear any Renner sacrifices is asked
1000
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:04.400
for the children. Yeah, what makes sense about this is
1001
00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:09.239
the kids may have the virus, like have the possible burn.
1002
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.039
Thinks she's a doctor, and she thinks that there's a
1003
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:14.159
chance that they could find the cure through these kids,
1004
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:15.400
which could be possible.
1005
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:17.559
Right, you can carry it, but the fact that you're
1006
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.320
not showing symptoms of it says something.
1007
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.159
I guess something. What it says. I don't know that
1008
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.400
they have ever found like this is always like a
1009
00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:27.840
pig thing in movies. But like thinking back on like
1010
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:31.920
how cures for diseases are found, it's not through asymptomatic carriers. No,
1011
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.760
that's just like a genetic fluke that you can't recreate. Yeah,
1012
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.440
you know, so like when they find something that works
1013
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.199
on a disease, it's never been like oh, typhoid Berry
1014
00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:43.800
had this, and like we figured it out, you know, figure,
1015
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:48.320
how do we determine? And it's usually a lot of
1016
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:52.199
research and like they you know, they like, how do
1017
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:55.599
we find Yeah, I mean it's usually decad decorations. Yeah,
1018
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:59.119
it's decades of research. I mean, like I guess, like.
1019
00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:03.440
The closest any genetic bird that comes from this, I think.
1020
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:07.719
The closest part would be well, no, it's like the
1021
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:12.079
smallpox vaccine. They found that because of milkmaids who are
1022
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.519
getting cow pox because they were milking cows and they
1023
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:19.159
were more immune to smallpox. And they found that like, oh,
1024
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:21.679
if you have like this other version of the virus,
1025
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:24.440
then it can like give you grant you some immunity
1026
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.800
through that. But that wasn't genetic. That was like their work.
1027
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:29.760
They put them in contact.
1028
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:33.360
Yes, they had more fight against it as a virus.
1029
00:45:33.440 --> 00:45:35.079
Yeah, but a lot of it's just like it's getting
1030
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.440
live cultures of the virus and like throwing different things
1031
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:41.880
at something, get what affects it. Yeah, but it's never
1032
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:45.000
been interesting. Let's find a person who's immune. But if
1033
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:45.719
we can recreate that.
1034
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:51.400
Immunity, America is like me and so right, yeah, you're
1035
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:53.360
just well and like a doctor or not. She was
1036
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:55.199
probably like no, I don't know, yeah, Vogue for.
1037
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:58.880
A second, because I'm gonna ask you as a virus.
1038
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:02.000
Well, I just wonder if there was like a piece
1039
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.559
or like some kind of genetics markers or something. But like,
1040
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.599
I just think it's interesting that like the only good
1041
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:11.360
people in that movie are like Rosebyrne and Jeremy Renner.
1042
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.039
And then he just so stupidly dies, like it's not
1043
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.320
even a good death. It feels like it's just like
1044
00:46:17.679 --> 00:46:20.400
I feel like I'm supposed to die now, so I'm
1045
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:21.280
just going to go do that.
1046
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:21.920
Bye.
1047
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.679
Yeah, Like it just is so awkward and stupid. We're
1048
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:26.280
spending too much time on the second one.
1049
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:30.000
No, I we're so mad about it, Okay, I meant minutes.
1050
00:46:30.800 --> 00:46:32.679
I just want to spend a good amount of time
1051
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:34.760
on the third one because I loved it so much
1052
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.440
and I want to just talk about it so badly.
1053
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.599
I just want to get there, you know. I'm like, ah, yeah, okay.
1054
00:46:41.639 --> 00:46:43.760
So like when they're like so basically the only cases
1055
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.280
of like that natural immunity have come from like outside,
1056
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:49.199
like it's the cow pox, the COVID nineteen, like the
1057
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.679
herd immunity, but that wasn't like a person having a
1058
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:56.320
DNA marker that made them immut So it's I mean.
1059
00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:01.119
From ana maker, which has never existed.
1060
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:03.360
Is that what you're saying. It's not that it's never existed,
1061
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:05.840
it's that we've never found a vaccine based on the
1062
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:07.599
Oh okay, so we've never like you know, it's like
1063
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.599
Last of Us or whatever. We've never found an immune
1064
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:12.719
person and then researched on their body and then be
1065
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:14.480
able to muplicate it, which is kind of good.
1066
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.239
I don't you know, if I'm one of those people,
1067
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:17.679
I don't want to be researched on either.
1068
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.199
Yeah, exactly. It sounds uncomfortable. Well, and I think it's
1069
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.519
like that's like that's a Crisper ship. Like if you
1070
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:26.440
have a genetic immunity, they would have to basically start
1071
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:30.320
cloning and doing some DNA. That's whats So that's where
1072
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:34.960
I feel like, yes, not yea Crisper is coole as fuck. Yeah, Okay,
1073
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.519
shout out to chrisps Christopher if you're out there. Just
1074
00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:42.159
such a cool project.
1075
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:46.760
Uh yeah, so okay, that makes sense anyway, So the
1076
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:48.519
kids get out blah blah blah, let's move.
1077
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:53.159
Movie. Yeah. I think what's like really interesting. We have
1078
00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.079
the big discussion about the military right where so it's
1079
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.920
interest elba, where like they're like, this is the American
1080
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.960
military and have a kill switch. Basically we're like, if
1081
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:05.320
this is if we get breached to a certain degree,
1082
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.199
we're going to have doing every city. We just have to,
1083
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.599
you know, And that's the Yeah, I.
1084
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.119
Mean imagine it not being that I guess my thought is,
1085
00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:15.159
like you could pull out and then leave them to
1086
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:18.199
their own devices, which probably would have been nicer.
1087
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.360
But also if they don't know that they can't spread
1088
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:23.880
like they really you know, yeah, yeah, I mean it
1089
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.039
makes sense why you would think we gotta just like
1090
00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:27.039
nip it in the butt right now.
1091
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.000
Well, and just because they can't, so the kids can't.
1092
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:32.360
I mean that's a thing like even the immune are
1093
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.119
spreading it. So I guess my thought is like they're
1094
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:39.239
just trying to kill the virus instead of just letting
1095
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:41.199
it kill itself. So what they should have done is
1096
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:44.960
just pulled out immediately, like whoever hasn't touched anyone get
1097
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:48.440
out now and you have like that's it, Like there's
1098
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:51.280
one wave you get like these five people get out,
1099
00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.079
you're already at a plane out. Everybody else has to survive,
1100
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:58.000
and you go back into quarantine. That's what they That's
1101
00:48:58.039 --> 00:48:59.000
what I thought they would do.
1102
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.119
Yeah, but I think why they.
1103
00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:02.199
Chose like a big egg.
1104
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:04.519
I mean it's a big statement right of like like
1105
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:07.880
you know, and there's like a really powerful wrong move. Well,
1106
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.719
there's like a really power slaaner. Jeremy Renner is a
1107
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:12.840
sniper and he's aiming at infected and uninfected, and he
1108
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:14.519
can't tell the difference from that time.
1109
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:17.519
Right, you can't, so and that's why he stops. But
1110
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:19.920
that's it's such a statement, right, Yeah, that's how I.
1111
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:21.679
Think, Like that's the statement of the movie of like
1112
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.599
you know, you don't know what's like the cost or
1113
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:27.719
like what are you willing to sacrifice? Yeah, so I
1114
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.320
woke up the dog. Yeah it's fine, but yeah I
1115
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:33.079
hate those kids. I'm sorry image in Poots, Like I
1116
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:36.559
really hated I really hated that daughter to she was terribley.
1117
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.119
It's her fault because she's the one who like gets
1118
00:49:38.119 --> 00:49:40.280
her little brother out. Yeah you know, yeah. She should
1119
00:49:40.320 --> 00:49:42.119
have been like, well that sucks. Yeah. She should have
1120
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:43.559
been like let me describe, like let's like try to
1121
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:47.599
remember mom together, you know. Yeah yeah and maybe just
1122
00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:51.360
m m, you know that was me doing a little gunshot. Yeah.
1123
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.239
Or she should have just stayed in Spain, been like
1124
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.679
actually we're staying here in Spain. Yeah not for real,
1125
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:56.679
let's give it a year.
1126
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.760
Like she's the older sister being a fucking adult here.
1127
00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:01.320
Yeah.
1128
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:06.639
Anyways, give that your sineless dad. It's fine, he's cool. Also,
1129
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:07.880
how do I know that guy.
1130
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:10.519
Robert carlt He and he's been a bunch of stuff.
1131
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:11.960
He was in that British thing.
1132
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:13.239
I watched him, and.
1133
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:17.960
He's very British. He was back very British. He was
1134
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:19.559
in that Once upon a Time show. I don't know
1135
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:21.480
if you like ever watched. I loved that show. He
1136
00:50:21.599 --> 00:50:25.360
was the guy still skin. Yeah. He was in train
1137
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.559
Spotting Spotting. That's a little Monty oh Man. So he's
1138
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:29.800
train Spotting.
1139
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:32.880
Very one of those movies where I go, yeah, totally,
1140
00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:36.440
train Spotting cannot guarantee if I've seen that, So I'm
1141
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:38.239
just gonna own it now I have seen it.
1142
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:40.280
I don't remember a lot of I think I got
1143
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:42.440
into like a Danny Boyle face at one point, I'm like,
1144
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:45.679
let's do it. It's yeah, it's a good time. He's
1145
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:47.960
in Stargate, Oh love it. Yeah, so he's been.
1146
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:52.639
I think of him like the Stargate world, like I
1147
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.719
think of him like in Sarty guys. Yeah what I mean,
1148
00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:57.679
But I don't watch Stargate, but I just think of
1149
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:02.519
him like sci fi guy. Yeah, I don't know why anyways. Okay,
1150
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:07.840
movie three, yay, Yeah, we've made it. We did it,
1151
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:13.440
don't Yeah, Okay, twenty eight years later we're in it.
1152
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:18.400
So full quarantine. England is isolated. But in twenty eight
1153
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:21.840
years yeah, but there is a small island in the
1154
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.679
north of England that is protected because it's on it's
1155
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:27.559
only connected to the mainland through a causeway, so like
1156
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:30.159
they're able to go and get supplies and then when
1157
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:32.320
the tide rises, they're protected, so there's only a couple
1158
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.199
of times a day that's infected could actually get to
1159
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.519
the kiland ye, so they have a whole world. Yeah,
1160
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.400
so they're and they've was what's interesting is they've built
1161
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.840
like nineteen fifties England world, you know. So it's like
1162
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:46.519
the men take the boys out to hunt and teach
1163
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:50.360
them arrows and killing, and then the girls are taught
1164
00:51:50.440 --> 00:51:53.199
you know, survival skills like hunting and gathering and you.
1165
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.000
Know a lot of like cooking and taking care of
1166
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:58.440
things exactly. And the girls are tough. Don't get me wrong,
1167
00:51:58.480 --> 00:51:59.639
these girls tough.
1168
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.239
Yeah, but it's like they definitely do this like very
1169
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:04.559
interesting separation of the genders. They still have like a
1170
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:06.480
picture of the Queen of England because that's the only
1171
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:07.599
queen that they remember.
1172
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:11.039
Made a weird like religion. Yeah, I noticed that too,
1173
00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:13.320
just like I won't call it a religion, but it's
1174
00:52:13.400 --> 00:52:15.400
kind of. Yeah, there's like this weird mask that they
1175
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:16.360
never really explained.
1176
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.280
Well, I think it's supposed to like represent the rage virus.
1177
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.480
That's what I was thinking. It's like the uh you
1178
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:23.480
think of like the plague masks.
1179
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:25.679
That's what I kept thinking of. Oh yeah, and then
1180
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:27.639
they have like a kid standing in the middle of
1181
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:29.199
a room with one which I'm like, is this a
1182
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.360
punishment I don't understand, like being weak or something like
1183
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:33.920
oh well, if you're not strong, you're gonna.
1184
00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:36.679
Or it's being interesting. I was thinking that they were
1185
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:40.760
like like a in Catholic church, like a canter or
1186
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:44.800
something like the the leader or like the point of something.
1187
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:47.320
I was like, all in the opposite mindset.
1188
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:48.920
But I think that makes more sense.
1189
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.559
I do think it's interesting, and I don't think it's
1190
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:58.360
just because that they did that. I think that all
1191
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:03.519
three movies are all challenging stereotypes of all types of
1192
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:04.880
people and all types of.
1193
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:07.599
Masculinity and masculinity.
1194
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.599
In itself, and so from the very beginning we have
1195
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:14.320
a very gender harsh gender line.
1196
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:16.960
Although the leader of the community is a woman, yes,
1197
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.159
but she is like the only woman that's kind of
1198
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:20.960
in that position. So you're like, what did she do
1199
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.079
to earn them respect?
1200
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.679
And she is all for the gender roles. She's in
1201
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:31.679
it all in. And this man really wants his son
1202
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:32.719
to go kill.
1203
00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:34.800
His first Spike, who is twelve.
1204
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:37.239
Instead of fourteen, which is their usual years, and they go.
1205
00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:39.960
Are like, I think they said fourteen to sixteen.
1206
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.360
Is yeah, So he just wants his son to be
1207
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:43.760
so special to get his first kill.
1208
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:45.960
He wants him to be the because he even has
1209
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.119
like a very masculine name, you know, the name Spike,
1210
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:55.480
you know, like harsh first and foremost. This man okay
1211
00:53:56.000 --> 00:54:01.760
ar Kayla Johnson who had him to my laminated list
1212
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:04.320
and do Aaron Taylor Johnson. He was so cute at
1213
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:06.679
the premiere. He went a little jumper cue was just
1214
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:07.199
very cute.
1215
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:09.280
He's the cutest dude.
1216
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:11.360
I keep seeing him in little interviews and I'm like,
1217
00:54:11.719 --> 00:54:14.440
I love charming. Yeah, and also like is very offline,
1218
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:15.519
so it's very yeah, it's.
1219
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:20.000
Very very cute. Anyway, So beyond the hotness of dad,
1220
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.960
Dad is obviously very like masculine centered. He's very like
1221
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:27.480
harsh with his son very like from the beginning, he's
1222
00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:29.360
just like, this is what we're gonna do.
1223
00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:30.360
This is happening.
1224
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.760
Proud of you, Yeah, no, no, no fucking around.
1225
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:35.719
Yeah. What I love is like in the trailer, it
1226
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:37.639
was a very you know, everybody knows that trailer the
1227
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:42.760
boots poem Boots Boots, Yeah. Which what I love is
1228
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:46.360
that they used it in the movie. Yes, and they
1229
00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:48.239
like had it sort of juxtabout, so they had like
1230
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:50.880
the Boots poem and then these kids learning, and then
1231
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.039
they go back to the movie I think was like
1232
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:57.960
Henry the Fifth, which is like basically like it's a
1233
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:01.960
movie about a very like brutal war on England shores
1234
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:03.519
where like they were you know, they was sort of
1235
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:06.039
talked about it like a romantic terms like archer or anything,
1236
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:08.719
but it was really just guys beating each other to
1237
00:55:08.760 --> 00:55:11.599
death clubs, like it was like kind of a horrible battle.
1238
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.599
And then but they certainly like it's been romanticized through
1239
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:18.079
the years, so they like show the footage of like
1240
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:20.719
these archers and everything, and and then it's like very
1241
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.400
like romantic but even though we know like that was
1242
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:24.519
not how these things were down.
1243
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:28.239
And then it's showing the kids learning how to like
1244
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:31.360
make and shoot arrows. Yeah, I'm like, it's it's very
1245
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:34.000
much And if for those that don't know that poem,
1246
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.199
it was used to torture.
1247
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:39.360
Yeah, so it's the presidenters By are Ordered kipling and
1248
00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:41.840
it has it's about the Boer War and it has
1249
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:45.079
a very specific like cadence to it, and if you
1250
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:47.360
read it over and over enough, it makes people go crazy.
1251
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:50.800
So it's like, yeah, well it's used to torture seals,
1252
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:53.719
like people who are like in like, it's to teach
1253
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:56.360
them to resist torture. So it's basically like a light
1254
00:55:56.400 --> 00:55:58.760
torch like torture without long term effects.
1255
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:00.599
I'm seeing if I could just like play it into
1256
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:04.159
the microphone for two seconds, because I doubt that we
1257
00:56:04.199 --> 00:56:06.800
have like the audio setup. Oh yeah, we'll just go
1258
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.039
YouTube Boots poem and you'll hear it.
1259
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:12.599
Oh hey baby, you're okay. I shocked. Yeah, everybody watched
1260
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:13.800
this trailer, like we all heard that.
1261
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.400
So yeah, so I love that they bring it back,
1262
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:18.320
and they bring it back in such a great way.
1263
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:22.159
And it's a good like just a timeline on what
1264
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:26.360
it's like to live in this community and immediately we
1265
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:29.519
meet the mom. So in the first like five seconds,
1266
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:33.559
we're seeing the father and his son, and in my mind,
1267
00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:35.639
I was like, Oh, that's it. It's just dad and
1268
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:39.000
son and they're just surviving mom. Mom must be dead.
1269
00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:42.079
Or like IM to be like a little housewife, you know.
1270
00:56:42.280 --> 00:56:44.280
I just like, I don't know what it was because
1271
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:46.400
Dad was like cooking breakfast or something, and I was
1272
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:47.199
just like, oh, that's.
1273
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:49.039
It, Like, oh, yeah, this is their little world.
1274
00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:53.280
Mom probably was killed, so they're just surviving. And then
1275
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:56.599
mom comes in to play because they hear crashing in
1276
00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:00.280
the bedroom and it's pretty quick to see that there's
1277
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:01.039
something wrong with her.
1278
00:57:01.159 --> 00:57:04.920
Yeah, and it's Jody Comer amazing. Oh good, she's incredible.
1279
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.519
I here's my thing, the way that she's introduced into
1280
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:11.559
this movie. I the first that I had was a
1281
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:14.599
mental health issue. I didn't think of a brain tumor.
1282
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:17.599
Yeah. I really thought that she was having, you know,
1283
00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:19.039
like a schizophrenic episode.
1284
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.960
One hundred percent. She kept coming in and out of
1285
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:27.760
her realities. She kept like like looking at people like
1286
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:30.119
they weren't there. Yeah, Like it just very much felt
1287
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:31.719
like schizophrenica.
1288
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:34.440
Seems very and like And what you find out is
1289
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.440
that she has cancer. Yeah, brain cancer. Yeah, or not
1290
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:41.679
just cancer, but her sickness and the and the virus
1291
00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:42.760
are sort of juxtaposed.
1292
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.760
Yeah, you know the virus is quick, yeah, and this
1293
00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:47.519
is slow.
1294
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:50.400
Yeah, but she is infected in a way, you know.
1295
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:53.639
One hundred percent and it's affecting her mind like the
1296
00:57:53.719 --> 00:57:54.480
virus does.
1297
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:58.119
Yeah. So the dad takes him out of the causeway,
1298
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:00.760
and know that moment where she just he tells her
1299
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:04.159
I'm taking him and she's she loses her yeah.
1300
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:06.719
Yeah, Like and you can just see that that marriage
1301
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:10.559
a baby. I imagine that before this disease took her,
1302
00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:13.719
that marriage was over, Like the way that she looks
1303
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.320
at that man, and it feels to me like she
1304
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:19.199
had every plan of being done with her well.
1305
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:21.360
And I think there's a moment where it's her and
1306
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:22.880
her son and they're kind of camping out and they
1307
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:24.639
have like a silly moment where they're making and she's like,
1308
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:27.360
is your dad silly with you? And he's like, no,
1309
00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.559
never like it was and her dad was with her. Yeah,
1310
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.000
and that there's this safety and like you know of
1311
00:58:33.039 --> 00:58:36.079
like there's like is that beyond surviving? Right, It's like
1312
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.440
you are taking time to be like silly with this kid.
1313
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.519
And like let him feel some joy in this world.
1314
00:58:41.599 --> 00:58:44.000
You know, I watched. I watched it and shout out
1315
00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:46.239
to whoever it was. I watched a review. So I
1316
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:48.639
don't want to act like this was my idea or anything.
1317
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:53.119
But he was talking about that exact scene, and he
1318
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:57.559
was saying the difference there is how men and boys
1319
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:02.400
like this like toxic masculinity that boys have with their fathers,
1320
00:59:02.880 --> 00:59:06.679
Like he could not have fun with his child, but
1321
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:11.039
her father was a father of women, and he was
1322
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:13.639
able to laugh and joke with his daughter. And so
1323
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:16.480
it was also speaking to like how fucked up the
1324
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:20.440
way that it is how men are raised, and like
1325
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:23.360
this is so true. Right, There's a sticker I had
1326
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:28.239
for years that just said, like let let boys be feminine,
1327
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:33.079
and that's such a part of it, right, like like
1328
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:36.679
not allowing this child to laugh sometimes. Yeah, Like you
1329
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:39.800
guys have a decent setup, it's okay, And the only
1330
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:42.599
fun that this father has is getting super fucked up
1331
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:44.480
and fucking a woman in the town.
1332
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:46.679
Yeah. So like they go through and like the first
1333
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:48.719
part of them, I would say, like the first fourth
1334
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:51.079
or third of the movie is them out in the
1335
00:59:51.119 --> 00:59:53.559
wild doing his first run. Yeah, doing his first run.
1336
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:56.159
Oh my god, it's scary. It's so intense, Like, oh
1337
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:59.360
my god. Like they have like they've introduced some mutations
1338
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.679
to the there's like ones where they're low slows, where
1339
01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:04.760
like they're kind of obese and just like crawling.
1340
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.320
Yeah, somehow it affected their thyroids. Is that what they said.
1341
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:09.400
At some point? Is that what they said?
1342
01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:12.840
Yeah, they said something about the virus affecting some people's
1343
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:16.840
not it's something in the thyroid that makes them bloat.
1344
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:19.239
So they're really bloated.
1345
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:22.000
And they eat worms and they eat the scavengery. Yeah,
1346
01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:24.280
but they're also breeding because there's like a family where
1347
01:00:24.280 --> 01:00:25.920
it's like a male female and they have a baby.
1348
01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.079
Yeah, they had a baby or a young one.
1349
01:00:28.159 --> 01:00:29.119
It was like a child.
1350
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:32.239
But yeah, it was weird. You know what I think
1351
01:00:32.239 --> 01:00:34.639
about that? Well, we can get to that later on.
1352
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:37.360
But I think this virus, this third one, really is
1353
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:42.440
introduced a lot to me in terms of what this
1354
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:46.960
means for humanity beyond just like a zombie type of thing.
1355
01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:50.480
Remember that movie years ago where it was like a
1356
01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:53.519
zombie movie but in the end, like love made him
1357
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:56.400
not a zombie again. Yeah. Warm bodies, Yes, Warm Bodies,
1358
01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:57.000
Thank you.
1359
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.440
Such a cute movie, like I really intorted and Julieu.
1360
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:03.239
It's very key Zombies. It is Romangelia.
1361
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:06.400
It was zombies, but it was like that where suddenly
1362
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:09.440
we are starting to see that these like these people
1363
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:12.960
with the rage virus have entire communities too. They are
1364
01:01:13.199 --> 01:01:18.039
entire like groups of people and they don't speak language.
1365
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:20.679
It's almost like it's almost like the rage virus took
1366
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:24.800
them back millions of years and they came very historic,
1367
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:29.519
but they're still human in there, like there's something like
1368
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:33.440
naturally they're going with like all just what nature tells them,
1369
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:35.159
but it's still very real.
1370
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:37.679
I don't know if that makes sense totally, but.
1371
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:40.480
Yes, we get that mutation and then we get alphash.
1372
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:42.400
That's our first introduction to an alpha.
1373
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:44.679
Yeah, I don't know, you're not like big dict.
1374
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:45.599
That's what I saw.
1375
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:51.199
I really got into that. Yeah, big dickt huge, huge,
1376
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.159
long Okay, And that's a long nary where they're like
1377
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:57.000
standing it's standing by the tree on the hill. And
1378
01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:59.760
then Aaron Taylor Johnson's reaction to it where he's like
1379
01:02:00.920 --> 01:02:03.880
he's terrified, He's he's had a lot of bravado through
1380
01:02:03.880 --> 01:02:05.880
this whole thing of like you know, shoot him, shoot him,
1381
01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:07.519
shoot him, you know whatever, and.
1382
01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.559
He's just sort of like and the kid's like, what's
1383
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:12.079
wrong because he also sees his dad as like a
1384
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:13.280
he'll save the day.
1385
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:14.320
Yeah, Like no matter what.
1386
01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.079
He's gonna say, it's okay, everything's gonna be fine because
1387
01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:19.400
I'm here with my dad. And that's the first moment
1388
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.199
that I think the kid is starting to see that
1389
01:02:21.239 --> 01:02:24.159
his dad as a human yeah, and is not as
1390
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.719
like save the day as he thought, and maybe like
1391
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:31.760
a real human being, because in that moment, it's just
1392
01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:34.920
like the dad's like, I've seen how many like twelve
1393
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:37.760
or more arrows not take this guy down? Like these
1394
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:40.119
alphas are no joke. We're fucked, and he's like, we
1395
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:40.760
have to run.
1396
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:43.440
And they've had like a moment where like they find
1397
01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:46.440
a body that was left to be infected, Like it's
1398
01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.280
a man that's been hung upside down with his head
1399
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:51.880
covered and he's got like Jimmy carved in his chest.
1400
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:55.079
Jimmy Yeah, And then the dad is like to shoot
1401
01:02:55.119 --> 01:02:57.199
it like this is an easy kill, and the kids
1402
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:01.079
like can't like its just it feels.
1403
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:02.840
Because it's an easy kill, there's something wrong with it.
1404
01:03:02.960 --> 01:03:06.119
Like I think that the kid has this sense of humanity,
1405
01:03:06.639 --> 01:03:09.840
that we're still a person like his mom does, which
1406
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:12.239
we find out later, but like that like there's still
1407
01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:15.719
a human in there, and like they're captured and it.
1408
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:16.639
Just doesn't feel right.
1409
01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:19.320
Yeah, right, But then of course that like little guy
1410
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.679
gets he gets out of the trap and yeah, and
1411
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:25.039
he's coming to kill him.
1412
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:27.280
He has to happen, you know.
1413
01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:32.440
But yeah, Alpha's and they're big dicks. I'm not going
1414
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:35.360
to stop saying it. I can't help that. I mean, really,
1415
01:03:35.559 --> 01:03:37.159
this is a theme of the movie.
1416
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.719
Yeah, I'm curious, Like there's a naked there's like his
1417
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:42.000
anime that I really liked, which is like that attack
1418
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:45.320
on Titan or it's giants basically, and they're like in
1419
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:48.679
they're humans that have been turned into sort of mindless
1420
01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:51.920
monsters and they just like chase and eat and they're
1421
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:53.199
very like you know, it's kind of but like the
1422
01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:56.320
running scene of like the way they did the running
1423
01:03:56.360 --> 01:03:59.239
of the Razors is a lot like the animated the
1424
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:03.719
attack on Cool. Yeah, you're like, I don't know that, Yeah,
1425
01:04:03.760 --> 01:04:05.400
I don't know to attack on Titan. Yeah, but I
1426
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:07.159
think it was like a really interesting.
1427
01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:09.840
Very like favorite in the geek community. Yeah, I could
1428
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.039
see that they like hadn't connected to the geeks. But
1429
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:13.880
the way that they were doing the running, which is
1430
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.199
sort of this like flayly arm thing that's almost kind
1431
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:20.519
of funny. Yeah, but it's a very like, yeah, don't
1432
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:23.559
chase me like that. It's very like it almost feels
1433
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:26.199
to me, it feels like jerky in a way that
1434
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:30.599
is uncomfortable. Yeah, and you're watching, You're like, something's wrong
1435
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.440
with this person, because nobody would ever run like that. Yeah,
1436
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:35.719
so immediately if you're running at me like that, I'm
1437
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:37.599
like some stalking wrong run away.
1438
01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:40.039
We all know that, Like our biggest fear is actually
1439
01:04:40.039 --> 01:04:44.800
been running in your direction. Actually yeah yeah one direction.
1440
01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:46.079
They don't come towards me.
1441
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.599
I will cry, Yeah, I will cry. And it's like
1442
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:51.599
this whole group of them. Yeah, and it's like they
1443
01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:54.760
survive whatever. They find this house. It kind of they
1444
01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:57.000
get up into this space where it's safe. But I
1445
01:04:57.039 --> 01:04:59.880
have to say that entire sequence had me all my
1446
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.760
was like, so my west, I was distressed. There's a
1447
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:07.519
whole sequence. A kid can't calm himself down to shoot,
1448
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:09.800
so the dad has to do it all. So thank
1449
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:11.480
god they survived because.
1450
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:13.360
Like, yeah, and the dad is like shooting and trying
1451
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:15.480
to like do like get his kid in the attic,
1452
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:17.719
and it's just and I just say, like, dad did
1453
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:19.159
a great job. I did a great job.
1454
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:21.039
Like I feel like a lot of the reviews I
1455
01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.119
talked like I see are just like a lot of
1456
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:24.119
shit against dad.
1457
01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:27.119
He loves his I mean, he loves loves that like
1458
01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:29.719
he you know, did he was willing to do like anything.
1459
01:05:29.719 --> 01:05:31.440
It was like, you know, he was risking his life
1460
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:33.760
to keep him saying there's there's this review he put
1461
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:37.280
him in the situation for some like macho yeah for sure,
1462
01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:40.119
but but also he was like, but imagine you know,
1463
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:42.760
but I can't imagine how much fear you would have
1464
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:46.719
as a parent in this environment and feeling like if
1465
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:49.320
I don't get this kid trained to survive, and I'm saying,
1466
01:05:49.360 --> 01:05:50.199
something happens to me.
1467
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:53.119
I just think there's a lot of hate against this guy. Yeah,
1468
01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:55.840
like and all the reviews and all the places.
1469
01:05:55.440 --> 01:05:59.280
Every time see Aaron Taylor Johnson is a really good dad.
1470
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:00.400
Every time he's dad.
1471
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:02.880
Guys, he's hot and I'm a fan.
1472
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:08.039
He was a sweet piece of shit. I'm like, he
1473
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:12.360
just wanted just wanted to have daughters. Yeah, he's a
1474
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:13.000
good dad.
1475
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:16.119
He was so I love no Spatu me too. That's
1476
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:17.320
another podcast.
1477
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:20.360
But yeah, like he I mean, he's not a perfect person.
1478
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:23.719
You know, he's like but he's also like I don't
1479
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:27.519
see I can see reasoning behind every movie makes that
1480
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:28.480
makes sense to me.
1481
01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:31.960
And he came of age on in England before the Causeway.
1482
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:34.760
Yes, you know, he's just trying to get this kid
1483
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:36.239
to be a part of this, so.
1484
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:39.000
He knows what it's comfortable not to survive in this
1485
01:06:39.039 --> 01:06:40.519
world and to not know.
1486
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:43.039
How and then to have to figure it out while
1487
01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:44.559
you go go through it.
1488
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:46.719
Yeah, I feel like it's almost like that Naomi Harris
1489
01:06:46.719 --> 01:06:51.599
without figuring out that there's more to survival than just.
1490
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:54.119
I mean, he has his wife, but he like still
1491
01:06:54.159 --> 01:06:55.440
doesn't like you don't know what to that.
1492
01:06:55.599 --> 01:06:57.480
Yes, you know, I think he's so like he's still
1493
01:06:57.559 --> 01:06:57.840
in a.
1494
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:01.320
Little bit of the survival. Yeah, and he obviously gets
1495
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:04.239
accolades for it, right, so he just hasn't just connected
1496
01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:07.480
that well. Yeah, but I also think that he's a
1497
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:09.719
loving father that's just trying to make sure his son
1498
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:10.840
can survive.
1499
01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:12.840
Yeah, and this is a man, let me tell you
1500
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:15.280
that kid's soft. This man, he's not wrong because he's
1501
01:07:15.320 --> 01:07:15.760
a baby.
1502
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.599
Yeah, but like he's not wrong to push him. I'm
1503
01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:20.800
sorry there I said it, but like you are living
1504
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:32.079
in post a cop elyptic apocalypse had two cocks, I
1505
01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:37.400
mean drinks cocktails. Yeah, but there's like we're living in
1506
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:40.000
a world where no one gets to be that soft.
1507
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:40.800
Women.
1508
01:07:40.960 --> 01:07:43.800
Men, it doesn't matter, like you gotta be tough. So
1509
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:47.039
to me, I understand why he's pushing him young, maybe
1510
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:49.239
a little too young. But to him, he's like, I
1511
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:52.119
don't know, man, his kid's a little attached to his mama.
1512
01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:56.880
Yeah, I'm sorry. Well I can't so toxic, but I
1513
01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:59.519
can't emit. I mean, like it's such an extreme scenario, right,
1514
01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:02.199
like if if this guy's living right now and pulling
1515
01:08:02.199 --> 01:08:03.239
this ship not too.
1516
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:05.840
Much right, Yeah, we aren't done that space. But in
1517
01:08:05.880 --> 01:08:13.079
this acocalyptic apse, the Acocalypse of the Cocalla, that is
1518
01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:16.479
definitely going to be a porn version of eight years later,
1519
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:21.880
this a cocalypse cocalypse. Here I was talking about porn,
1520
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:26.279
but I agree the cocalypse. But yeah, in that post
1521
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:31.760
acocalyptic time, yeah, I think all of humanity has to
1522
01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:36.000
go back in time culture wise, Like you can't. Like,
1523
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:39.439
what's beautiful about right now is that we don't have
1524
01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:42.560
to do that. Yeah, Like, and this is what I
1525
01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:46.600
don't understand about, like this whole alpha male bullshit. I'm like, dude,
1526
01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:49.439
what is beautiful about living now is that you don't
1527
01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:52.079
have to live under that pressure as a man. You
1528
01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:53.640
don't have to live with that.
1529
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:55.039
Yeah, you're free, you could do it.
1530
01:08:55.239 --> 01:08:58.560
Get some freedom, enjoy it while you got it, because
1531
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:02.640
the acocalypse is around the corner, and like then we
1532
01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:05.680
all have to figure it out, all of us equally.
1533
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:08.960
Gender norms aren't gonna matter. We're all just going to
1534
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:10.159
be fucking in survival.
1535
01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:12.319
I do not want to live in that either. I'm
1536
01:09:12.359 --> 01:09:15.000
gonna kill myself. Would rather be sad. I'm not gonna
1537
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.279
be in the scenario where they're like, oh we promised them,
1538
01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.640
would I'm like, well, I'm, you know, too old for
1539
01:09:20.640 --> 01:09:21.319
this shit anyway.
1540
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:23.600
Yeah, yeah, done, give me.
1541
01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:24.399
I'm done with that.
1542
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.920
But in a general sense, it's like that the whole
1543
01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:31.439
idea of these gender norms comes from a place of survival,
1544
01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:35.079
not a place of thriving, like in a thriving bunch
1545
01:09:35.079 --> 01:09:38.239
of thinking. Yeah, Like, even if you look back at
1546
01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:40.880
like Roman and Greek culture when they were really thriving,
1547
01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:46.000
it was very like open and like very comfortable between
1548
01:09:46.079 --> 01:09:48.800
genders and all this stuff. And that's because they found
1549
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:52.600
some level of peace. Humans aren't supposed to exist.
1550
01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:52.960
In that space.
1551
01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:57.399
This is my brand new theory and I'm really excited
1552
01:09:57.399 --> 01:09:58.439
about it that I just like.
1553
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:02.399
Got there right now that we can live beyond the
1554
01:10:02.439 --> 01:10:03.319
cortisol dumb.
1555
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:07.720
Yes, cortisol is not real life, you fuckers. Try stop
1556
01:10:07.800 --> 01:10:08.840
trying to make it happen.
1557
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:09.279
Yeah.
1558
01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:12.039
I like not it being cortisol heavy all the time.
1559
01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:15.840
Yeah, Okay, anyways, I'm done. That's good. Yeah, that's great.
1560
01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:19.239
So the kid survives and lies about it. I really
1561
01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:21.960
like the party they have too, because it's like it's
1562
01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:26.399
creepy and scary. It's culty but also comforting. Yeah. It's
1563
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:29.399
a weird real Yeah, it's real, you know where they
1564
01:10:29.399 --> 01:10:31.439
have like you know, they're like singing and they're like
1565
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:33.760
and it's a hard party, you know, like it's like
1566
01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:36.600
adults and kids and they're all like going and to
1567
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:39.079
celebrate Spike in his first kills. Yeah, and the dad
1568
01:10:39.159 --> 01:10:41.600
kind of FIBs a little to like, you know, just fun.
1569
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:44.279
And the thing about that is like I'm also like
1570
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:47.720
in pub culture. Yeah, you exaggerated to me, that kind
1571
01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:49.960
of says that the dad's a little embarrassed that he
1572
01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:52.720
couldn't do any kill but a slow mo. Yeah, but
1573
01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:56.039
he's twelve. Yeah, he's like some guys, he's twelve. No, totally.
1574
01:10:56.079 --> 01:10:58.039
I think the dad was just like, you know, like, oh, yeah,
1575
01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:00.399
my kid's so strong, he can kill whatever, you know,
1576
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:02.680
And like Spike isn't ashamed now, you know.
1577
01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:05.720
Yeah, he was just happy to be surviving. Yeah, he
1578
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:07.039
was so happy to make it back.
1579
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:09.199
But his dad has like a little like I don't know,
1580
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:10.439
wanting to.
1581
01:11:10.600 --> 01:11:13.039
But what sucks about that is like the dad pissed
1582
01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:16.079
his pants at the Alpha, so it's like he's no better.
1583
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:20.920
Yeah, because it's very scary. Yeah yeah, because like the
1584
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:25.439
Alpha is chasing him on the causeway. Oh that's so good,
1585
01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:28.399
and like Infinite Stars, it's so beautifully shot.
1586
01:11:28.279 --> 01:11:33.239
So beautifully, and they're getting closer and closer to the town,
1587
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:35.319
but like and there they start yelling in the town,
1588
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:36.680
can't run it.
1589
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:38.800
He's like, you don't run, you.
1590
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:39.359
Gotta do it.
1591
01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:41.720
You got to get up the way. It's like, oh,
1592
01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:45.279
it's so good, so scary. Yeah, man, that Alpha was intense.
1593
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:46.119
The Elphas are scary.
1594
01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:48.399
Do you think that that Alpha looked a little bit
1595
01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:55.399
like Game of Thrones Kalisi's husband.
1596
01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:58.760
Yes, I thought the Elphas had a kind of a
1597
01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:01.399
cal like the that the people call.
1598
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:07.000
Yeah, they all had the call. Look, yeah, the Drogo
1599
01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:08.159
thank you.
1600
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:10.640
Called Drogo that's played by Jason MoMA.
1601
01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:13.399
Yes, yes, he looked a little like Jason Momoa, but
1602
01:12:13.479 --> 01:12:14.479
not Jason Momoa now. Like.
1603
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:19.199
And it's interesting because the Office are basically the rage
1604
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:24.760
thing acts like steroids to them, you know, yeah, yeah,
1605
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:28.439
but also stereoids make your dick small, and these make
1606
01:12:28.520 --> 01:12:31.199
them Yeah, I don't got it big dicks big. That's
1607
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.159
a better steroid, I guess. I don't know. I don't know.
1608
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:33.960
I don't know.
1609
01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.960
If you if you ladies are really into the dicks.
1610
01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:40.399
You'll see plenty. Yeah, how about it? Watch this movie.
1611
01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:43.840
So the thing about this too is that the dad
1612
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:46.680
has told the kid all sorts of things to keep
1613
01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:48.960
him so, like, when they're out there, he sees this
1614
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:53.079
huge fo smoke and the dad goes, that is not
1615
01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:56.159
a town, yeah, like, and the kids won't explain, Yeah,
1616
01:12:56.279 --> 01:12:58.159
that looks like a town, And the Dad's like it's.
1617
01:12:58.000 --> 01:12:59.760
Not a town. It doesn't want to get into it
1618
01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:00.880
in the town.
1619
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:04.000
When he finds out about it, I was fascinated by.
1620
01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:06.600
So the old man tells him there's this doctor blah
1621
01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:09.159
blah blah, and he's like, there's a doctor because there's
1622
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.920
never been a doctor. And mom sick, so he's like,
1623
01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.079
there's a fucking how sick is she?
1624
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:15.439
Like what?
1625
01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:15.760
Wow?
1626
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:16.640
What the fuck?
1627
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:19.199
And he's like, okay. So he asked his dad, like,
1628
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:21.439
what the fuck's wrong with this? I think it's incredible
1629
01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:24.359
because the dad told this story about him the doctor,
1630
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:27.279
and it was supposed to be scary. M hm, and
1631
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:29.560
I was liken, this makes sense, but I don't know
1632
01:13:29.560 --> 01:13:30.319
why it makes sense.
1633
01:13:30.399 --> 01:13:33.039
Y Yeah, So basically it's not scary to man. He
1634
01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:36.479
came across the doctor who had like thousands of bodies
1635
01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:40.520
laid out in very symmetrical lines of infected and not infected.
1636
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:44.000
Alt he's burning them. That's it. Honestly, would scare the
1637
01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:46.920
shot out of me. If I had no context, my thought.
1638
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:49.439
Would just be the virus. Maybe he thinks the virus
1639
01:13:49.439 --> 01:13:52.119
spreads even in debat, like he's trying to get rid
1640
01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:52.840
of the virus.
1641
01:13:52.880 --> 01:13:54.640
I don't know what I would have thought, Yeah, I
1642
01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:56.640
mean it's so many bodies in a straight line.
1643
01:13:57.039 --> 01:14:00.319
The line is what's scary. Yeah, the lineup.
1644
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:02.680
Them and he like the way, the cheerful way he waves.
1645
01:14:02.720 --> 01:14:05.840
I'm like, is that come on down here? Yeah, it's
1646
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:09.319
a little eerie. I'd be unsettled, Yeah, unsettled. I think
1647
01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:12.079
I might be curious eventually, for sure, but i'd probably
1648
01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:14.920
leave and then maybe later be like I go back.
1649
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:16.800
Yeah, I want to see what that guy's up to.
1650
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:18.479
But I would be worry of that guy.
1651
01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:21.000
Yeah, No, you're not just like, hey, dude, what's up.
1652
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:24.199
You're especially because he's never like I'm doing this because
1653
01:14:24.279 --> 01:14:25.800
it's going to stop the virus or something.
1654
01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:27.640
And in the end, that's not why he was doing
1655
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:29.159
that he was making.
1656
01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:30.600
But I thought it was beautiful.
1657
01:14:30.760 --> 01:14:34.720
It's making pires, he's making an obstuary, yeah, which was
1658
01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:36.560
lovely and beautiful and important.
1659
01:14:36.680 --> 01:14:39.960
And I like human culture. Yeah, I really like how
1660
01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:42.760
he talked about it, where he said it's like skulls,
1661
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.119
like towers of skulls, and he's like, every one of
1662
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:47.680
these is a human life, and like this was a
1663
01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:50.840
brain that thought and felt, and these are eyes that
1664
01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:54.079
saw the world, and you know another gone so beautiful.
1665
01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:56.079
I didn't think, but they were here and it mattered,
1666
01:14:56.319 --> 01:14:56.880
you know. Yeah.
1667
01:14:57.159 --> 01:14:59.560
Yeah, in order to get to this guy, the kid
1668
01:14:59.560 --> 01:14:59.960
in his mom.
1669
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:04.039
Who he the kid sneaks his mom out, which, initially
1670
01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:06.479
because of the training that I got from the second movie,
1671
01:15:06.520 --> 01:15:09.239
I was pissed. Yeah, like you're taking this very I
1672
01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:13.119
was so obviously deeply ill woman. I'm like, you're both
1673
01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:15.479
of the situation that you know is fucked up. Oh
1674
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:17.159
and then like, okay, So he has a falling out
1675
01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:18.520
with his dad and that's why he goes because he
1676
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:21.520
is asking the dad and that won't tell him, and
1677
01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:23.520
the dad is aggressive, and then the dad has like
1678
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:26.520
a rage moment. The kid saw, I'm fucking another woman too,
1679
01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:29.760
but it also doesn't help. Yeah, and the dad at
1680
01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:33.279
a rage moment, which is scary. Yeah, I think the
1681
01:15:33.359 --> 01:15:37.680
kid judged his dad too harshly. Honestly, It's it's tough,
1682
01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:41.840
like when somebody is that chronically ill. Yeah, and nobody
1683
01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:45.000
really knows what to do. I don't know. I don't
1684
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:46.119
know either. I know.
1685
01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:49.039
So there's a study done about men and women, and
1686
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:52.760
men are like two hundred times or something more likely
1687
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:57.600
to leave their wives during chronic and deadly illness and
1688
01:15:57.800 --> 01:15:59.359
women are not right.
1689
01:15:59.560 --> 01:16:00.600
Yeah, And.
1690
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:05.800
I don't think of this in a gender space.
1691
01:16:05.960 --> 01:16:06.199
Yeah.
1692
01:16:06.199 --> 01:16:09.479
I think that no matter the gender, and no matter
1693
01:16:09.479 --> 01:16:12.880
who you are, it is so hard to be the
1694
01:16:12.920 --> 01:16:17.079
partner through something like that. And if him and his
1695
01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:20.279
wife had talked and he knew it was cancer and
1696
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:23.479
he knew that she wasn't coming back and he had
1697
01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:27.520
to hold this family together himself, and he couldn't tell
1698
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:31.000
the kid, and he couldn't like I get it, Yeah,
1699
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:34.399
I fucking get it.
1700
01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:36.640
It falls for somebody else, like, yeah, and this is
1701
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:39.399
not an evil person, you know, Like, this is a
1702
01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:43.239
person who has like a very specific set of ideals
1703
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:46.199
and he, you know, wants to do right by the
1704
01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:50.720
people around him, absolutely, you know. And and then he's
1705
01:16:50.760 --> 01:16:53.720
going through something really difficult. He knows how to like
1706
01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:55.560
kill a zombie, but he doesn't know how to look
1707
01:16:55.600 --> 01:16:57.399
at his wife and say, like, I don't know how
1708
01:16:57.399 --> 01:17:00.000
to help you. No, he doesn't. He not be vulnerable
1709
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:00.520
like that.
1710
01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.479
Even when he comes back after fucking this lady and
1711
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:05.880
staying at partying all night, he lays down next to
1712
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:08.960
his wife, but he can't even look at her, and
1713
01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:10.159
he immediately gets up.
1714
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:12.680
He doesn't touch her, he can't look at her. Yeah,
1715
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:13.920
And I thought that was so telling.
1716
01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:16.640
All these reviewers are like, it's because he's a piece
1717
01:17:16.640 --> 01:17:18.920
of shit, blah blah blah, And I'm like, no, I
1718
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:22.720
think he's so broken. He doesn't know how.
1719
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:26.239
This is a person who's never touched therapy, Yeah, deeply
1720
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:29.840
to help her process anything.
1721
01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:33.319
Yeah, we're supposed to like love and support this woman.
1722
01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:36.520
He's never learned that. He only knows the rage virus.
1723
01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:37.960
As soon as you get it, you shoot him in.
1724
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.560
The heavy person that he was born he was born
1725
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:45.119
with is dead. Yeah, literally, that virus you kill it immediately.
1726
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:49.079
So he can't just kill his wife immediately. He has
1727
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:52.640
to watch her slowly, Yeah, disintegrate. What I thought was
1728
01:17:52.640 --> 01:17:55.680
interesting is that, like, for sure, in the twelve years
1729
01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:57.079
or whatever this kid has been on the Live on
1730
01:17:57.119 --> 01:17:59.560
This Island, people have died of disease. People have died
1731
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:03.239
of cancers or what after, like because you don't have
1732
01:18:03.279 --> 01:18:05.960
to ask. Yeah, Like people have died of what we
1733
01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:09.039
would consider a preventiful disease. But this kid, and maybe
1734
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:11.039
because it's his mom and he's a kid, but he
1735
01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:15.119
like doesn't understand it, Like you can't accept it, you know,
1736
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:16.720
so that's why he like drags her out there. But
1737
01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:18.920
I'm like, that's like a real failing on the community
1738
01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:20.720
to not like time to this kid and be like
1739
01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:24.760
before we could have Yeah, and he has this idea
1740
01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:26.920
of medicine and being like magic.
1741
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:28.840
Yeah that he he's going to find.
1742
01:18:28.640 --> 01:18:30.840
This doctor and he's going to like wave a wand
1743
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:32.560
and Mom's going to be herself again.
1744
01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:35.760
The community really fucked up here, Like if you're going
1745
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:38.239
to treat this kid like an adult and then not
1746
01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:42.119
to go kill the rage, Like if you think he's
1747
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:44.560
an adult ready for that, then he's an adult ready
1748
01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:45.319
to hear the truth.
1749
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:47.520
And the mom says that there's a moment where she's
1750
01:18:47.560 --> 01:18:49.880
like when she knows that it's cancer, and like she's
1751
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:53.479
telling him and she's like, I this is skipping head. Sorry,
1752
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:56.840
but you know everyone knows it's spoilers. I knew it
1753
01:18:56.920 --> 01:18:58.960
was this, but I couldn't. I was scared to tell you,
1754
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.560
and I needed somebody else to tell you. That's so
1755
01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:03.840
fucked up. Yeah, somebody else in the community should have
1756
01:19:03.840 --> 01:19:04.279
been like.
1757
01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:07.319
Yeah, like yeah, like it's super fucked up.
1758
01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:08.119
Yeah. Uh.
1759
01:19:08.479 --> 01:19:10.560
That's after they find the doctor that's after they find
1760
01:19:10.600 --> 01:19:13.319
the doctor. The doctor saves their lives covered in iodine.
1761
01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:15.800
Yeah, but there's like a really fun moment where like
1762
01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:17.760
Aslomo is catching up to them and like the kid
1763
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:19.359
is asleep and he's like trying to stand guard and
1764
01:19:19.399 --> 01:19:22.239
be like really tough and everything, trying to be the man. Yeah,
1765
01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:24.640
and he's almost bitten and then the mom like wraps
1766
01:19:24.640 --> 01:19:26.399
it and like bludgeons it to death. Yeah.
1767
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:27.840
I thought that was really cool. That was such a
1768
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:29.680
good And the next morning she doesn't remember it. But
1769
01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:31.600
she doesn't remember it kind of does.
1770
01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:34.800
She remembers it. She's saying like like no, no, nothing happen.
1771
01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:36.560
I think there's like a protection of her son. I
1772
01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:38.399
don't know. Yeah, like no, I don't.
1773
01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:41.640
Know which Also that's crazy because I'm just like, again,
1774
01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:43.960
your son has brought you out here and is trying
1775
01:19:43.960 --> 01:19:45.920
to be a real man, Like he deserves to know
1776
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:46.479
what you did.
1777
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:48.319
He should know that side of her too.
1778
01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:51.039
Yeah, like she doesn't get to be What drives me
1779
01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:55.000
crazy about this whole thing is again all the shit
1780
01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:59.720
against the dad when the mom is specifically only allowing
1781
01:19:59.760 --> 01:20:03.800
her to be the soft, like sweet loving.
1782
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:06.359
But she survived it.
1783
01:20:06.439 --> 01:20:09.119
Fucking too. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like she
1784
01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:11.920
can kill a zombie and she did for her son,
1785
01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:14.920
and she should have been like, yeah, I'm capable, Like
1786
01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:18.520
I also am strong. Yeah I might be sick, but
1787
01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:19.760
I did that.
1788
01:20:20.479 --> 01:20:20.720
You know.
1789
01:20:20.800 --> 01:20:22.439
It kind of bugged me a little bit.
1790
01:20:22.600 --> 01:20:24.640
Yeah, And I think it was because I think, like
1791
01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:27.039
the story is so heavily focused on this like juxtaposition
1792
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:27.800
of the two parents.
1793
01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:30.079
She's trying to keep him a child and he's trying
1794
01:20:30.079 --> 01:20:31.600
to force him tomandhood and.
1795
01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:32.760
Like the first part of the movie is like this
1796
01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:36.359
like sort of action packed, like stressful run run through
1797
01:20:36.399 --> 01:20:38.239
their lives, and then the other half is like him
1798
01:20:38.239 --> 01:20:41.039
with his mom, and it's sort of a slow soft Yeah,
1799
01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:45.279
it's soft, like it really like how beautiful this abandoned
1800
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:45.920
world is.
1801
01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:49.680
Yeah, and how wonderful like a son's like relationship with
1802
01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:51.560
his mother is and like what mother?
1803
01:20:52.239 --> 01:20:54.800
What mothering is? Set pieces in this part are so
1804
01:20:54.880 --> 01:20:57.760
beautiful to me. Yeah, Like with the there's like flowers
1805
01:20:57.840 --> 01:21:02.359
and yeah, yeah, so good, the old abandoned buildings and
1806
01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:05.319
like the roof and grown. Yeah. And they sort of
1807
01:21:05.359 --> 01:21:08.119
have shots where they show it before and then they
1808
01:21:08.119 --> 01:21:11.840
show it now and it's this yeah. Yeah, it's very lost.
1809
01:21:12.199 --> 01:21:16.239
And then we get the Eric character, the Swedish soldier.
1810
01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:21.000
Oh yeah, I forgot about fun like injectionated energy into
1811
01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:23.119
this moment the first time you laugh in the movies.
1812
01:21:23.359 --> 01:21:25.159
Oh yeah, he's very funny.
1813
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:28.479
It makes the ending make more sense. Yes, people talked
1814
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:30.079
to a lot of about the ending, and then when
1815
01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:33.880
I thought about the Swedish character, it was like, actually,
1816
01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:34.600
this makes them.
1817
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:36.840
Sense because I really want to hear I mean, you
1818
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:38.479
want to say it now? Oh that's it. Yeah, that's
1819
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:39.279
all I wanted to say.
1820
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:40.640
We'll get to it when we get to the end,
1821
01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:43.000
but like we can dig into that more. But I
1822
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:46.079
just like he is hilarious. He's the last He has
1823
01:21:46.079 --> 01:21:47.920
a cell phone. The kid doesn't know what a cell phone. Yeah,
1824
01:21:47.960 --> 01:21:50.960
he's this beautiful Swedish. He shows him as girlfriend, who
1825
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:51.840
is ridiculous.
1826
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:54.600
Okay, it's so funny because she's like botoxed and like
1827
01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:57.800
lips like she's schiller to hell and he literally is
1828
01:21:57.840 --> 01:21:59.319
like somebody in my village had that when they got
1829
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:02.359
stung by or they had like allergic and then he's like,
1830
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:03.079
what are you talking about?
1831
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:06.560
She's so beautiful, Like it's so like beauty standard and
1832
01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:08.680
that was like such a moment standard when they show
1833
01:22:08.680 --> 01:22:12.119
her picture and everybody like has a laugh about it.
1834
01:22:11.279 --> 01:22:14.479
Yea, it is so funny. Yeah, and I like the
1835
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:16.399
moment where he's like I could have been like a
1836
01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:20.000
delivery driver instead of fucking here, you know, yeah, like
1837
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:22.239
I thought I wanted to be something and then like yeah,
1838
01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:25.279
like there's like that macho idea where like you could
1839
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:27.880
have just stayed home in Sweden and had a small,
1840
01:22:27.880 --> 01:22:28.560
simple life.
1841
01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:30.520
Yeah, small simple life is okay.
1842
01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:33.079
Yeah, you know, instead you're dying here in this like
1843
01:22:33.159 --> 01:22:37.079
infested island. Yeah yeah, and it really shows how alone
1844
01:22:37.119 --> 01:22:39.199
they are. Like you feel so bad for Eric because
1845
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:42.239
he's been stranded here and there is no going back
1846
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:43.039
to Sweden now.
1847
01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:45.199
As soon as you touched down on the soil, they
1848
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:46.159
abandoned him.
1849
01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:49.119
So he like, you know, never getting he's surviving, like
1850
01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:51.199
moment a moment, but like, yeah, he's also a kid.
1851
01:22:51.279 --> 01:22:51.800
He's a kid.
1852
01:22:51.880 --> 01:22:54.000
He's like a kid in the Navy, Like he's a child,
1853
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:57.800
and it's sad, and it's sad when he dies, he
1854
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:01.319
kind of has a mental mental breakdown. Yeah, and that's fine,
1855
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:04.039
and that calls the dead to him.
1856
01:23:04.680 --> 01:23:06.560
And then we see like as a beautiful moment. Yeah, well,
1857
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:11.720
there's like a pregnant rage infected woman and and I
1858
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:13.279
think it's really interesting because we first see her like
1859
01:23:13.319 --> 01:23:15.760
in a river and they're all bathing, so it's like
1860
01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:19.039
they have this idea of cleanliness. Now, yeah, that's what
1861
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:21.720
I noticed. Hygiene comes back.
1862
01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:26.239
To me that that that like group seems to be
1863
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:32.000
more advanced mentally evolving past. Yes, it just it fascinates
1864
01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:34.279
me because I just feel like the rage virus is
1865
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:37.760
basically just taking people back to the beginning of humanity
1866
01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:41.560
and they're just having to re like they're just having
1867
01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:42.479
to re evolve.
1868
01:23:42.760 --> 01:23:46.680
Yeah, it feels like it's getting the same ship. That's
1869
01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:47.159
what I thought.
1870
01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:48.720
By the end of the movie, I was like, oh cool,
1871
01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:51.479
so then this is just like humanity two point h
1872
01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:54.359
In the end, she she's having.
1873
01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:57.840
A baby and the train and she and Jody Comore
1874
01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:01.760
have like a really like her character name is Isla.
1875
01:24:02.439 --> 01:24:04.600
What I think it's like really yeah, I think it's
1876
01:24:04.760 --> 01:24:08.319
very symbolic of the movie of like the story on
1877
01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:10.479
an island. Yeah, like you know, this is the island.
1878
01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:13.640
They're only two islands, like you know, and there's this
1879
01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:17.319
you know, solitariness to it and being a drift a bit,
1880
01:24:17.680 --> 01:24:20.880
but also being like a source of comfort and safety,
1881
01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:22.439
strength and safety. Yeah.
1882
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:25.840
Yeah, yeah, she represents what the almost the town is.
1883
01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:31.359
Yeah. But yeah, So the pregnant rager is giving birth
1884
01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:33.600
and they have like that really beautiful moment where like
1885
01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:36.439
she wants she's like, she wants to attack, but she's
1886
01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:38.960
you know, so pregnant and she's giving birth and she's
1887
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:41.840
an agony. Yeah, and Isla, instead of running from her,
1888
01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:44.720
takes a moment and like comforts her and holds her
1889
01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:45.840
hand while.
1890
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:48.600
She the rage the infect it holds her hands too
1891
01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:52.199
to push against for them to push.
1892
01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:53.439
It's like that was so good.
1893
01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:55.600
It was a little sign of humanity that happened.
1894
01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:58.800
Yeah. And she gives birth and then as soon as
1895
01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:00.600
she's out of that, she immediately starts to attack and
1896
01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:03.319
then Eric kills her. But they have the baby and
1897
01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:04.960
the baby's not infected, and.
1898
01:25:04.920 --> 01:25:06.600
The kids like put it down, I have to kill it.
1899
01:25:06.680 --> 01:25:10.960
Yeah, which I mean, after what we saw in you know,
1900
01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:14.239
in the in the second movie is wrong. Yeah, he
1901
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:19.640
knows that somebody who is asymptomatic carrier can still spread
1902
01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:22.000
this disease, and like, you know that they're in a
1903
01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:25.119
lot of danger, you know, from everything he's learned. They're
1904
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:28.039
in trouble this infant. And also that thing is covered
1905
01:25:28.079 --> 01:25:31.880
in the mother's blood. Yeah, also dangerous. Yeah, like have
1906
01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.000
we learned nothing? If you got any cuts on him,
1907
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:39.000
like blood, yeah, placentaet.
1908
01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:40.359
Like if it even splashes up at you, you're fucked.
1909
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:44.319
Yeah what are you doing? Yeah? You went down up? Sorry.
1910
01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:47.840
Pepper doesn't know what she wants. Yeah, she's figuring it out. Okay,
1911
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:56.319
just figure it out. Oh keep talking? Yeah uh so yes,
1912
01:25:56.359 --> 01:25:58.199
so like they have Yeah, I mean I get where
1913
01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:00.159
it's coming from. I would also have the instinctive like
1914
01:26:00.600 --> 01:26:02.840
I don't want to I just don't think it's safe
1915
01:26:02.840 --> 01:26:06.399
to like have ye this baby. Yeah, you know, I
1916
01:26:06.479 --> 01:26:07.039
get it too.
1917
01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:10.680
I just yeah, everybody's just in survival mode. This kid,
1918
01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:13.000
Like fuck it, he's probably had to kill a baby
1919
01:26:13.039 --> 01:26:15.520
before for all we know. We don't know what this
1920
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:16.520
kid's been through.
1921
01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:18.920
I mean, and I think there's a real dehumanization of
1922
01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:22.199
the ragers, you know, like everybody that is a big
1923
01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:22.960
part of this film.
1924
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:27.000
Yeah, the dehumanizing like they're hunting them for sport almost
1925
01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:30.439
as a big part of this Like, yeah, that's how
1926
01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:33.199
I felt about the beginning. The Alpha was the only
1927
01:26:33.239 --> 01:26:35.720
one that actually was scary. The rest of them were
1928
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:36.960
just being hunted by them.
1929
01:26:37.119 --> 01:26:38.239
Yeah, there's a weakness.
1930
01:26:38.319 --> 01:26:40.880
Yeah, they're like, yeah, we're out here. This is like
1931
01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:43.199
a coming of age, Like people do that now with hunting.
1932
01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:45.319
They're like a coming of age is that we go
1933
01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:47.800
out at this age and then we hunt for these
1934
01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:50.199
innocent animals that are on their own. Don't get me wrong,
1935
01:26:50.319 --> 01:26:53.880
I support hunting in the right aspects because it's actually
1936
01:26:53.960 --> 01:26:59.720
good for overall. You know, it's good for the entire ecosystem,
1937
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:04.359
but in a general sense, like that's the kind of manhood.
1938
01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:08.479
Like they're using these humans, these ex humans or whatever
1939
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:11.680
as like fodder for their thing, and I think that
1940
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:12.039
that's a.
1941
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:12.680
Big part of it.
1942
01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:15.720
Yeah, that baby's not human to him.
1943
01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:18.600
Yeah, and it's like and it makes its survival mode. Yeah,
1944
01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:20.600
and then the gets it. The way that Elpha has
1945
01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:23.079
killed him too is that they decapitate by force the
1946
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:25.199
one does. Yeah, well I think that was because they
1947
01:27:25.239 --> 01:27:28.359
see it with the elkhead where they like ripped the
1948
01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:31.319
head off, and it's what it was Alpha. This is
1949
01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:32.840
how ELF's killed is like they ripped the.
1950
01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:36.159
Head off and the whole spine's dangling yehead, and that's
1951
01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:36.880
it dies.
1952
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:37.840
It's very brutal.
1953
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.520
Yeah, it's terrible. And then his head's hanging out.
1954
01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:44.640
Yeah. And then uh, and that's when we see Ray Fines,
1955
01:27:44.680 --> 01:27:48.479
doctor Kelson show up and he doesn't kill the Alpha.
1956
01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:53.279
He thing I noted. He what do you think morphinees him? Yeah?
1957
01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:55.439
He drops this At the moment, I was like, oh,
1958
01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:57.520
because he's a doctor and it's due no harm.
1959
01:27:57.600 --> 01:28:00.359
Yeah, so he won't kill I think that's what kills
1960
01:28:00.359 --> 01:28:03.279
the mom. I think that was like a mercy kill.
1961
01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:04.800
I don't know.
1962
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:08.199
I mean, where is his line because most medical professionals,
1963
01:28:08.520 --> 01:28:11.560
that's an that's a that's a cop. That's a complicated line.
1964
01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:14.239
It's a complicated line most Yeah, I mean in survival
1965
01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:15.079
mode for sure.
1966
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:15.680
Yeah, for sure.
1967
01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:16.079
Yeah.
1968
01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:19.119
I just thought it was interesting. I he he morphines him,
1969
01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:21.760
so we it's like a strong amount of morphine because
1970
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:26.119
alfas don't go down easily, and it's it's obvious to me.
1971
01:28:26.359 --> 01:28:29.680
Right then the Alpha wants his baby like he's not,
1972
01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:30.720
this man is.
1973
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:33.960
Not Yeah, and then he forcibly like he raped that yeah,
1974
01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:35.520
because she's not capable of consent.
1975
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:38.399
No, you know, so he just wants a baby, yeah,
1976
01:28:38.720 --> 01:28:41.239
rap woman raise another baby, yeah.
1977
01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:44.279
Like maybe to make more alphas. I'm not the thought processes,
1978
01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:48.039
like wh if they're even thinking, but it.
1979
01:28:48.039 --> 01:28:50.560
Was fascinating, Like he even he even lifts the woman's
1980
01:28:50.560 --> 01:28:53.920
body and throws her aside as he chases them, and
1981
01:28:53.960 --> 01:28:56.239
he chases them all the way to like even after
1982
01:28:57.359 --> 01:28:59.640
the mom thing, which we'll talk about in a second,
1983
01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:01.000
he finds them again.
1984
01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:03.319
Yeah, but then there's a really beautiful moment after they've
1985
01:29:03.399 --> 01:29:05.640
drugged it, and like and doctor Kelson calls him Samson
1986
01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:08.039
and like his name has a name for him yeah, yeah,
1987
01:29:08.079 --> 01:29:10.279
and I assume probably names all of them. Yeah.
1988
01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:12.800
You know he's been living out there in it. Yeah,
1989
01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:15.680
he's not in a town. He's not in a safety
1990
01:29:15.720 --> 01:29:20.880
space at all. He's literally living in the middle of it.
1991
01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:23.520
It's crazy to me how he survived that far. Yeah,
1992
01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:26.239
part of me feels like it's the iodine. But also
1993
01:29:26.399 --> 01:29:28.880
I'm like, I wonder how much they've gotten used to
1994
01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:29.439
him being.
1995
01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:30.880
There well, and I think he also it seems like
1996
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:32.000
he has some safety tunnels.
1997
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:34.439
Yeah, he had tunnels built, and like the.
1998
01:29:34.479 --> 01:29:36.439
River also keeps them in bay, So I think he's
1999
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:38.800
got has some like natural defenses downs.
2000
01:29:39.039 --> 01:29:40.920
Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
2001
01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:45.479
Yeah, but yeah, so Samson, Yeah yeah. And so they
2002
01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:49.439
take Eric's head and he basically boils it and cooks
2003
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:52.119
it and like takes the skin and you know, the
2004
01:29:52.159 --> 01:29:55.640
matter out until it's just like the skull and then
2005
01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:58.359
has the kid put him on the pire, place it
2006
01:29:58.399 --> 01:30:01.000
on the pyre, and it's really beautiful. It's interesting because
2007
01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:06.439
the imagery in the trailer, this boneyard looks really terrifying,
2008
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:09.239
like it's very unsettling, but then when he talks about
2009
01:30:09.279 --> 01:30:12.000
it and you see it, like it's beautiful, it's like momentum,
2010
01:30:12.239 --> 01:30:13.439
like moody.
2011
01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:17.319
Yeah, so many places in Europe have that, Like in
2012
01:30:17.399 --> 01:30:24.039
the catacombs, like in undermost churches you'll find beautiful like
2013
01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:29.520
skull creations for like memories and memorims and like it's
2014
01:30:29.640 --> 01:30:33.279
it's a it's a sad beauty, but it's beauty.
2015
01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:37.640
Yeah. And that he sees the infected as being people still, like.
2016
01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:40.800
It doesn't matter human infected human, And I think because
2017
01:30:40.800 --> 01:30:42.960
he's already there.
2018
01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:46.000
Sick people, but there's still people. So much compassion. I
2019
01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:49.199
think I love this character so much. Fines is the best.
2020
01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:53.920
It's so much heart and and I think it's like
2021
01:30:53.920 --> 01:30:56.560
like a person who's still capable of seeing these people
2022
01:30:56.840 --> 01:30:59.520
as living beings. And I think even now sometimes we're
2023
01:30:59.560 --> 01:31:02.239
so like and on things that it's hard sometimes to
2024
01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:04.159
look at each other when you're like on the opposite
2025
01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:06.600
sides of these belief systems and be like, you're a
2026
01:31:06.640 --> 01:31:10.479
person who deserves to live on this earth and have peace.
2027
01:31:10.760 --> 01:31:13.680
You're all human, we're all just like.
2028
01:31:13.039 --> 01:31:15.159
Trying to forget with each other now. But he's like
2029
01:31:15.560 --> 01:31:18.600
so capable of looking beyond that, and I'm like, that's
2030
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:20.960
that's aspirational. Yeah, I agree.
2031
01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:23.600
It was beautiful and the mom like, that's how we
2032
01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:26.319
find out she has brain cancer because he does all
2033
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:28.760
the tests on her and like not really you know,
2034
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:31.079
like as best you can. Yeah, he was like, I
2035
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:33.159
don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure this is
2036
01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:33.600
what it is.
2037
01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:36.640
And and the way she describes it like that it
2038
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:38.760
used to come in waves and now it feels like
2039
01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:39.640
the tide is coming in.
2040
01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:42.199
Yeah, she's like the Causeway to the end, and yes,
2041
01:31:42.199 --> 01:31:44.800
it's just like the Causeway because she is the island.
2042
01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:48.840
Yeah, that's she's being separated from it and from her yeah,
2043
01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:52.159
from her son. It's so sad. Yeah, and then there's
2044
01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:54.920
a really and then the moment where her son, like
2045
01:31:55.079 --> 01:31:57.079
where she tells him that he's that she is sick
2046
01:31:57.479 --> 01:31:59.720
and he has such a hard time accepting it because
2047
01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:01.960
like they've fought so hard to get here and this
2048
01:32:02.079 --> 01:32:03.399
was going to be the thing that fixed it.
2049
01:32:04.079 --> 01:32:06.399
And and she said she was like, he can't cure me,
2050
01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:07.359
but he can help.
2051
01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:07.960
Yeah.
2052
01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:09.600
And that's a moment where you know he's going to
2053
01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:11.520
kill her. Yeah, that's the moment where you know, well,
2054
01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:14.560
you know she wants him to. Yeah, she's basically asking
2055
01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:15.560
him with her eyes.
2056
01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:19.840
Yeah. And then she's holding her son and he's kind
2057
01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:21.800
of freaking out and she like kind of like looks
2058
01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.039
at the doctor and the like you know, gives a look,
2059
01:32:24.239 --> 01:32:27.720
and the doctor drugs him with like his morphine what
2060
01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:29.319
do you call it? Dark? Dark?
2061
01:32:29.479 --> 01:32:32.720
Yes, yes, you know, so the kid gets all drugged up.
2062
01:32:33.239 --> 01:32:35.560
Now I just need to say this, and you and
2063
01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:39.239
I have probably already said this together, but this all
2064
01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:41.600
happens a little fast for me. He is a twelve
2065
01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:42.159
year old boy.
2066
01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:44.840
Give him a night, Yeah, I mean, like, yes, you do.
2067
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:47.800
You are going to die, and you've accepted it, but like,
2068
01:32:47.840 --> 01:32:49.760
take a moment to be with him and so like,
2069
01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:51.920
you know, and to like impart something to him while
2070
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:52.800
you're lucid, you know.
2071
01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:54.680
As I said that, I came up with the other
2072
01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:59.079
argument for it though. The other side there's a baby
2073
01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:02.720
and an alphas after it, and they never know when
2074
01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:04.720
infected are going to attack.
2075
01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:05.800
They just never know.
2076
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:08.960
So in some way you have to take advantage of
2077
01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:09.920
the moment that you have.
2078
01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:11.920
Like she knows now, so I get it. She's like,
2079
01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:13.640
I want this, and I want this right now, and
2080
01:33:13.640 --> 01:33:14.920
I don't want to die.
2081
01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:17.359
I don't want to die waiting for them to get me.
2082
01:33:17.479 --> 01:33:19.199
And I don't want to have to go back to
2083
01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:21.760
this village where my husband's going to treat me like
2084
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:25.159
shit and I'm going to be living a miserable death
2085
01:33:25.680 --> 01:33:27.840
and I have to watch him with his other woman
2086
01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:29.079
and I have to like go through all this.
2087
01:33:29.239 --> 01:33:31.399
I just want to end it now. Yeah, And there's
2088
01:33:31.600 --> 01:33:34.079
a Raffines has a line that I think is so
2089
01:33:34.119 --> 01:33:36.960
beautiful where he's like, there's many ways to meet death
2090
01:33:37.039 --> 01:33:40.640
or like to die, but the best is quietly, you know,
2091
01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:41.880
quietly and was love.
2092
01:33:42.199 --> 01:33:44.239
Yeah, And I'm like it's so hard.
2093
01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:49.239
I cried so hard. This maybe made me cry I
2094
01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:50.920
had to fight not to like sob.
2095
01:33:50.960 --> 01:33:51.560
But I tried.
2096
01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:53.399
Yes, I was trying not to sob.
2097
01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:55.760
I was just like, I was trying not to show
2098
01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:57.840
that I was crying too much, which is usually me
2099
01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:00.399
just being like, oh, I have an I have.
2100
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:01.880
A mentioned I have an itch in my eye.
2101
01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:05.199
Oh no, because if I if I knew people knew
2102
01:34:05.239 --> 01:34:06.800
I was crying, it was going to become a sob.
2103
01:34:07.239 --> 01:34:08.680
I would if you had looked at me in the
2104
01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:10.159
wrong way, I would have been like.
2105
01:34:10.800 --> 01:34:13.800
I had the same thing. I was like, we're both crying.
2106
01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:16.560
If we look at each other, we're going to start sobbing.
2107
01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:19.279
You cannot look at each other. You cannot own this moment.
2108
01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:21.439
It's fine, Everything's fine.
2109
01:34:21.720 --> 01:34:22.720
Yeah, this is that.
2110
01:34:23.119 --> 01:34:25.840
Seeing sad moments in theaters is my least favorite thing
2111
01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:28.399
in the world because I hate holding tears back. I
2112
01:34:28.439 --> 01:34:30.640
hate it. I like to do it at home where
2113
01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:33.520
I can't sort of I love it. Then when my
2114
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:36.079
husband can make fun of me and I'm like, okay,
2115
01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:39.760
your tears, Yeah he does. He'll use his finger to
2116
01:34:39.760 --> 01:34:44.920
get it off my face and lick it, be like delicious. Yeah.
2117
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:47.000
I wept so hard. It was just such a beautiful
2118
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:47.760
human moment.
2119
01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:49.520
I think, and it's like his whole thing has been
2120
01:34:50.279 --> 01:34:52.680
momento Maury, which is like remembering you a stye, but
2121
01:34:52.720 --> 01:34:56.359
then also like Memento Amoy moranest or something, which is
2122
01:34:56.640 --> 01:34:59.279
that it was like remember you loved you know, And
2123
01:34:59.319 --> 01:35:01.319
I think that is remember you were loved and remember
2124
01:35:01.319 --> 01:35:03.800
you must die. Yeah, it's like you're.
2125
01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:06.000
And like by the time the kid comes to because
2126
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:09.039
of all the drugs, his mother's skull is ready for
2127
01:35:09.119 --> 01:35:12.399
him to place. Yeah, and that also made me cry because.
2128
01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:15.279
He's like put her in a good spot and he
2129
01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:18.960
takes her to the top and then he's rise and
2130
01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:20.760
then he's like and he's like love you, moll let
2131
01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:27.479
me kisses her. I kind of tear it up. It's
2132
01:35:27.560 --> 01:35:32.159
really beautiful. It's really beautiful. It's so sad.
2133
01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:35.079
I mean, yeah, you just imagine being twelve. Though in
2134
01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:36.960
the moment, I was like, don't kiss that skull.
2135
01:35:37.319 --> 01:35:39.000
I was like, weird, it's so funny. I was like,
2136
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:39.840
kiss that school.
2137
01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:44.880
It's your but it's a school. Yeah, it was beautiful.
2138
01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.960
We're both crying, just yeah, it's fine, but it was uh, yeah.
2139
01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:55.319
It was really something. Yeah. Any who, I think it's uh,
2140
01:35:55.399 --> 01:35:58.199
I think there's like a thing with within these movies
2141
01:35:58.199 --> 01:36:00.680
of like there's sort of this fear of law, and
2142
01:36:01.159 --> 01:36:02.920
you know you try to like disconnect for them and
2143
01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:06.600
just try to survive and cut off that part of yourself.
2144
01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:09.199
But like I think in this it's like, yeah, it's
2145
01:36:09.239 --> 01:36:11.800
it's so sad and it's really hard, but.
2146
01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:13.399
But I think it makes you cry too, because it's
2147
01:36:13.399 --> 01:36:16.720
more than just sad. Well, you thinking people sacrify themselves inside.
2148
01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:19.600
It's so sad and it's so hard, but it's so
2149
01:36:19.880 --> 01:36:23.319
much more worth it to lose somebody and miss them,
2150
01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:24.680
and that's why you cry.
2151
01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:27.520
Yeah, you're not crying because like all the other deaths,
2152
01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:31.039
you're just like, well, like even when Jeremy rennerdies, you're like,
2153
01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:34.520
all right, but this one is sad because it's beautiful.
2154
01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:37.720
Yeah, Like how lucky you are to love somebody enough
2155
01:36:37.720 --> 01:36:40.319
that when they're gone, you know, you cry for missing
2156
01:36:40.319 --> 01:36:44.000
them and to die peacefully. Yeah, in this world that
2157
01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:46.640
is so violent, you know. Yeah.
2158
01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:49.119
Yeah, And I don't know, man, part of me is
2159
01:36:49.159 --> 01:36:50.960
like what I have had my husband just kill me
2160
01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:51.479
in my bed?
2161
01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:53.680
Like she knew.
2162
01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:56.239
Maybe she just needed the validity of the doctor to
2163
01:36:56.239 --> 01:36:56.600
tell her.
2164
01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:58.199
Maybe she also knew that if he did it, then
2165
01:36:58.239 --> 01:37:01.119
her son couldn't forgive him. Yeah, you know, yeah, that
2166
01:37:01.159 --> 01:37:04.399
she would be like, God, she's such a Yeah, she
2167
01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.520
fucking Jody Comer. I don't know. I know they don't
2168
01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:10.840
do oscars for horror movies. Yeah, but she really deserves She.
2169
01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:13.880
Really deserves one of Oscar movie. There's plenty of horror
2170
01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:17.279
movies that deserve oscars. Yeah, and actors Tony, but I think.
2171
01:37:17.159 --> 01:37:19.319
It was like the most beautiful performance drop that.
2172
01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:25.680
Yet again it's always Tony and hereditary. Yeah, like completely given. Yeah,
2173
01:37:26.039 --> 01:37:26.560
looked over.
2174
01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:28.000
But now it's like Tony and Joey.
2175
01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:32.840
Yeah, now it's them. Yeah, it was beautiful. AnyWho, the
2176
01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:34.560
kid takes a baby back to the town.
2177
01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:36.159
And the reason they kind of explained that the baby's
2178
01:37:36.199 --> 01:37:38.560
not infected because of the placenta, Like the doctor's like
2179
01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:40.479
sort of hand wavy magic of the placenta.
2180
01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:41.880
Yeah, the baby.
2181
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:43.439
Is apparently not and it's a girl, and he calls
2182
01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:45.640
her islave I love, which is the best.
2183
01:37:46.039 --> 01:37:47.760
He writes a little note to the town and to
2184
01:37:47.840 --> 01:37:49.039
his dad and.
2185
01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:51.560
Like leaves her there and goes back into the woods,
2186
01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:54.399
which I think is crazy. Does she mean it's crazy?
2187
01:37:54.399 --> 01:37:56.560
You're still fucking twelve man. Yeah, dude, I.
2188
01:37:57.039 --> 01:37:59.279
Get it, Like I get that this movie is like
2189
01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:02.600
all about the cut of age. He came of age,
2190
01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:05.560
he still should go home. Like it kind of drives
2191
01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:08.760
me crazy. His anger towards his dad. I just I
2192
01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:11.560
don't have patience for it. And just like he is
2193
01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:15.680
your father, Like you need to tell him everything that
2194
01:38:15.720 --> 01:38:18.359
you know, you need to talk to him and you
2195
01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:21.439
need to try to break through that surface. But he
2196
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:22.560
just punishes him.
2197
01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:26.039
Yeah, and this is his first time being alive too,
2198
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:29.960
and it all just a living really tough world. Yeah,
2199
01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:30.720
I don't know.
2200
01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:31.880
It just pissed me off.
2201
01:38:32.159 --> 01:38:34.800
And when he should have off some conflict with his
2202
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:38.319
dad instead fight for it. Yeah, he just came and
2203
01:38:38.359 --> 01:38:40.359
be like you need to be like she's a kid,
2204
01:38:40.359 --> 01:38:42.600
and then like just to leave the kid in his care,
2205
01:38:43.399 --> 01:38:45.880
he know, like when he doesn't like trust that care
2206
01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:48.520
for himself. Yeah, you know, it broke my heart.
2207
01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:51.560
And to see the dad like scream when he read
2208
01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:54.479
that card, I just like at that moment, I was like,
2209
01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:57.520
this man just he just loves his son and the
2210
01:38:57.640 --> 01:38:58.960
son is fucking him over.
2211
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:00.600
Dude. Yeah, I don't know.
2212
01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:02.079
Man, it just pissed me off.
2213
01:39:02.199 --> 01:39:04.119
I was real mad at the kid at that point. Yeah,
2214
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:06.560
I was like, you just lost your mom, Like, wouldn't
2215
01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:08.560
you want to to like be.
2216
01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:11.880
Around fight for your father's relationship, fight for it, fight
2217
01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:15.199
for it. Like maybe he continues to be better. But
2218
01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:17.159
once he knows that you know things and that you're
2219
01:39:17.199 --> 01:39:20.239
a man, maybe you can actually talk. Yeah, Like, have
2220
01:39:20.359 --> 01:39:22.600
you ever thought that being a man actually means talking
2221
01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:27.039
sometimes and not just running? He's acting exactly like his father. Yeah,
2222
01:39:27.079 --> 01:39:30.479
I just realized it. He is his father. He's running
2223
01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:33.560
away from repeating these patterns. He's repeating the same pattern
2224
01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:36.159
He's like, I'm gonna go and survive and be a
2225
01:39:36.199 --> 01:39:37.079
real man on.
2226
01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:40.319
My own and then without anybody. And then he immediately
2227
01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:44.760
almost dies. Yeah, immediately almost dies. It's overwhelmed by and
2228
01:39:44.840 --> 01:39:47.119
these like weird dudes have to save him. Yeah, so
2229
01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:48.720
that we missed. We're going to talk about this. But
2230
01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:50.680
the beginning of the movie is a bunch of blonde
2231
01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:55.239
kids watching teletubbies. Yes, and then uh, the ragers and
2232
01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:56.960
I attack the house and they kill all the adults
2233
01:39:56.960 --> 01:39:58.840
and they kill all the kids except for one blond kid,
2234
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:01.319
and she gets away. She runs to the church and
2235
01:40:01.319 --> 01:40:03.560
it turns out that his dad is the local vicar
2236
01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:08.159
who's also crazy crazy, and he's like, Dad, like, you know,
2237
01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:10.640
we have to like think it's mom. Everybody's dead. And
2238
01:40:10.640 --> 01:40:12.279
then the dad's like, it's the Second Coming.
2239
01:40:12.399 --> 01:40:13.720
Like he thinks it's good.
2240
01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:16.720
Yeah, he thinks this is the the clent times, you know,
2241
01:40:17.079 --> 01:40:18.000
and he accepts it.
2242
01:40:18.319 --> 01:40:20.439
You know, he basically asked them to get him.
2243
01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:23.640
Yeah, So like the dad gives him his crucifix and
2244
01:40:23.680 --> 01:40:26.319
then the kid hides and then is like screaming, father,
2245
01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:27.359
why have you forsaken me?
2246
01:40:27.720 --> 01:40:31.039
And if you've been listening here, you'll remember that we
2247
01:40:31.079 --> 01:40:33.880
talked about an upside down body with the name Jimmy Carving.
2248
01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:37.159
There's also like Jimmy through the movie Graffiti, there's something
2249
01:40:37.199 --> 01:40:40.760
like Jimmy is the Second Coming. Yeah, Like Jimmy as
2250
01:40:40.800 --> 01:40:42.800
a name has been used throughout the whole movie as
2251
01:40:42.840 --> 01:40:48.079
some kind of like Jesus esque character like name like
2252
01:40:48.279 --> 01:40:51.279
Jesus is your Salvation or Jimmy is your Salvation or
2253
01:40:51.399 --> 01:40:53.760
something like that, Jimmy.
2254
01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:59.319
And then he's a in It's weird cartoonish it's a
2255
01:40:59.319 --> 01:41:02.800
guy from Sinners. What's the vampire from Centers? What's name?
2256
01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:05.520
Yeah, which I did not recognize it. Yeah, he looks
2257
01:41:05.560 --> 01:41:08.960
crazy that. Yeah, I think he's hot in centers. Yeah,
2258
01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:12.119
he's a good looking guy. And Nick I saw this
2259
01:41:12.159 --> 01:41:14.319
and I was like, what is happening is this When
2260
01:41:14.319 --> 01:41:16.279
you said it was rimic, I was like nah, and
2261
01:41:16.359 --> 01:41:16.840
I looked.
2262
01:41:16.720 --> 01:41:19.079
Up it is yeah, yeah it doesn't look anything like him. Yeah,
2263
01:41:19.159 --> 01:41:21.279
he really, but he's doing like a whole Jimmy Saville look,
2264
01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:23.920
which is like, if you don't know, Jimmy Savill was
2265
01:41:24.119 --> 01:41:29.239
a really well known children's performer in England. Like he
2266
01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:32.199
was kind of beloved, widely beloved. He was best friends
2267
01:41:32.199 --> 01:41:35.359
with like Camilla Parker Bowles and like had ends with
2268
01:41:35.359 --> 01:41:38.800
the royal family. Like he was a well known person
2269
01:41:38.840 --> 01:41:40.279
I think beloved it. But it turns out he was
2270
01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:44.520
also the biggest pedophile while yeah, yeah that he was
2271
01:41:44.720 --> 01:41:48.239
a criminiformers yeah and that and then he had it.
2272
01:41:48.279 --> 01:41:50.960
So basically he had this huge rise, everybody loved him,
2273
01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:53.319
and then he had a real downfall. But this all
2274
01:41:53.319 --> 01:41:56.520
happened after two thousand and two. So according to like
2275
01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:00.279
Jimmy in the the movie Jimmy, you know this guy
2276
01:42:00.359 --> 01:42:01.279
is still someone to look up to.
2277
01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:04.720
Yeah, he's still a person, right, Like nothing happened that
2278
01:42:04.840 --> 01:42:05.520
called him out.
2279
01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:07.560
As a monster, so he like still bases his look
2280
01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:09.159
on him like, which is interesting.
2281
01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:12.000
And they're all like cartoonish. They're all very like com
2282
01:42:12.079 --> 01:42:15.520
multi colored track suits and they're all blonde. And in
2283
01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:18.720
the beginning of the movie, they're watching what is the
2284
01:42:18.760 --> 01:42:22.159
show Dubbies Teletubbies. Uh no, but they were also at
2285
01:42:22.199 --> 01:42:24.840
some point they were watching, Oh my god.
2286
01:42:24.840 --> 01:42:28.000
Power Ranger, Power Ranger. They were talking about Power Ranger. Yeah,
2287
01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:30.159
Spike has a Power Rangers toy's.
2288
01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:35.439
Some think there's this connection of like childhood and these
2289
01:42:35.479 --> 01:42:36.920
guys are very Power Ranger.
2290
01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:38.960
This part of the movie is really controversial. A lot
2291
01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:42.680
of people hated it because it's it's so out, it's
2292
01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:44.760
very disjointed. I almost kind of wish this was a
2293
01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:45.760
post credit scene.
2294
01:42:45.920 --> 01:42:48.399
Yeah, it feels like a post credit scene. It doesn't
2295
01:42:48.399 --> 01:42:50.680
feel like part of the movie at all. They save
2296
01:42:50.760 --> 01:42:53.520
his life, but like I'm like, it's very like, all
2297
01:42:53.520 --> 01:42:56.920
of a sudden, we're living in a a post like
2298
01:42:57.039 --> 01:43:01.000
a totally different movie. Yeah, it felt like they said, yes,
2299
01:43:01.079 --> 01:43:05.119
what was that crazy movie? Oh shit, never mind, I'm
2300
01:43:05.159 --> 01:43:06.319
not going to think of it, and I'm not even
2301
01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:08.079
going to think of ways to get you to think
2302
01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:08.279
of it.
2303
01:43:08.399 --> 01:43:10.159
Okay, so we're just gonna.
2304
01:43:09.920 --> 01:43:12.960
Move in a crazy movie and after after the after
2305
01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:15.039
the podcast, you're gonna be like that one. But it's
2306
01:43:15.039 --> 01:43:17.039
like comic book like he has his like love of
2307
01:43:17.159 --> 01:43:19.920
this girl Ramona. He's like obsessed with her.
2308
01:43:20.520 --> 01:43:20.920
Yes, thank you.
2309
01:43:20.920 --> 01:43:23.760
Scott Pilgrim versus the World, it's very Scott Pilgrim versus
2310
01:43:23.800 --> 01:43:25.720
the World. Yeah, And it's like, all of a sudden,
2311
01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:27.159
I was like, we're not in the same movie.
2312
01:43:27.720 --> 01:43:31.039
Stylized kind of way of speaking and fighting. Yeah, and
2313
01:43:31.079 --> 01:43:33.319
they do all these like super cuts and backflips and stuff.
2314
01:43:33.359 --> 01:43:34.720
And I think it's a little creepy because at the
2315
01:43:34.760 --> 01:43:37.359
end he's like, Hi, I'm Jimmy, and I'm just like, oh,
2316
01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:40.359
this is a kid, and you come with me. This
2317
01:43:40.520 --> 01:43:41.119
was this guy.
2318
01:43:41.439 --> 01:43:41.640
You know.
2319
01:43:41.680 --> 01:43:44.000
It feels creepy. Yah, let's be fat. What do you
2320
01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:47.439
say like for pals or And that's the end of
2321
01:43:47.439 --> 01:43:47.760
the movie.
2322
01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:49.560
Yeah, which, like and then that that's going to lead
2323
01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:51.560
into the next two movies, of course, which I think
2324
01:43:51.560 --> 01:43:54.319
the next one is all about the Jimmy's Oh great, right,
2325
01:43:54.560 --> 01:43:58.439
can't wait. I mean, I it was disjointed for sure.
2326
01:43:58.600 --> 01:44:02.039
I get the Yeah, I literally can't, like I actually can't.
2327
01:44:02.439 --> 01:44:05.640
Yeah, No, I get the criticism because it really is
2328
01:44:06.399 --> 01:44:09.640
shockingly different. But then when I think about the Swedish
2329
01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:12.439
Kid and how shockingly hilarious that I was in the
2330
01:44:12.439 --> 01:44:18.399
middle of this devastating movie, you realize, like that's the point, Like,
2331
01:44:18.840 --> 01:44:21.800
in the middle of devastation and terror and horror, there
2332
01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:24.560
are these moments of lightheartedness. There are these moments of
2333
01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:30.359
humanness and like he shocks you back into reality almost
2334
01:44:30.399 --> 01:44:33.239
like hey, the movie's over, Like I'm going to shock
2335
01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:35.159
you into being able to walk out of this theater
2336
01:44:35.720 --> 01:44:36.239
and laugh.
2337
01:44:36.960 --> 01:44:37.199
You know.
2338
01:44:37.359 --> 01:44:37.560
Yeah.
2339
01:44:37.600 --> 01:44:40.520
I think it's like I liked it in that it's
2340
01:44:40.520 --> 01:44:42.960
such a sharp turn at the end of the movie
2341
01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:45.159
that there's no way to predict that that was coming,
2342
01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:47.319
Like we had like the we had all the Jimmy
2343
01:44:47.319 --> 01:44:50.359
stuff throughout the movie, like we have like the waiting
2344
01:44:50.439 --> 01:44:56.520
for Jimmy and Jimmy. I thought Jimmy was the dad James, yeah, Jamie, Yeah,
2345
01:44:56.520 --> 01:44:58.079
that's what I thought it was going to be, But
2346
01:44:58.119 --> 01:44:59.560
it turned out to be this like a whole other character.
2347
01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:02.560
So I can forgot that first scene and then it
2348
01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:05.159
like yeah, and then it plays out in this way
2349
01:45:05.199 --> 01:45:08.039
that it's such a like, yeah, they leave.
2350
01:45:07.840 --> 01:45:09.960
You these bread crumbs the whole movie, but you don't
2351
01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:13.039
they aren't strong enough bread crumbs for you to think
2352
01:45:13.039 --> 01:45:14.960
about him actually being in the film.
2353
01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:18.720
Yeah, to spend too much time like newly On like Jimmy,
2354
01:45:18.920 --> 01:45:20.560
like you don't think twice and then he comes and
2355
01:45:20.560 --> 01:45:25.720
you're like, Oh that Jimmy, that's Jimmy's Jimmy. Ye see.
2356
01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:27.520
I liked it as like a book and yeah, and
2357
01:45:27.560 --> 01:45:30.479
I think it's funny. Yeah, And I think there's so
2358
01:45:30.520 --> 01:45:32.199
many movies where you can kind of see where things
2359
01:45:32.199 --> 01:45:34.159
are going, like you can really predict like, yeah, oh
2360
01:45:34.199 --> 01:45:35.840
we've hit this plot point, we're gonna do this next
2361
01:45:35.840 --> 01:45:37.520
and then it's gonna end here, you know, like you
2362
01:45:37.560 --> 01:45:40.119
can kind of It's nice that we've seen enough stories
2363
01:45:40.159 --> 01:45:42.680
we know the flow. This is such a sharp like
2364
01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:45.359
I mean, yeah, Danny Boyd, like a Boyle talked about
2365
01:45:45.359 --> 01:45:47.319
it is like this is the most original piece of
2366
01:45:47.359 --> 01:45:50.479
writing that he's ever read. I have to say Clockwork
2367
01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:53.079
Orange was this comparison. I want to know.
2368
01:45:53.159 --> 01:45:55.600
Like it also makes you feel like the next movie
2369
01:45:55.720 --> 01:45:57.199
is going to be a whole other pace.
2370
01:45:57.359 --> 01:45:59.319
Yeah, Like what's this next movie even going?
2371
01:45:59.399 --> 01:46:02.960
To be like, if that's the vibe, yeah, I don't know,
2372
01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:03.840
it's exciting.
2373
01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:05.600
Yeah, I'm excited about it. I'm excited to see what
2374
01:46:05.640 --> 01:46:05.840
they do.
2375
01:46:06.239 --> 01:46:09.279
And shout out for Danny Boyle because even though his
2376
01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:11.560
way of cutting and his way of doing things is
2377
01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:14.560
still very much him and people are like, oh, it's
2378
01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:18.840
old school, and I'm like old school stand or tries
2379
01:46:18.840 --> 01:46:22.399
to me crazy, Yeah, but good for him. He still
2380
01:46:22.439 --> 01:46:28.039
found incredibly innovative and different ways of shooting. Like I
2381
01:46:28.199 --> 01:46:30.880
just the way that they created this film is also
2382
01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:37.720
very impressive. Lighting the shots, the he had lineups of iPhones,
2383
01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:40.720
but it's not iPhones, like that's something that shout out
2384
01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:43.439
to Chris Steckman, my favorite movie reviewer. He was like,
2385
01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:46.119
stop saying that this movie was shot on that iPhone.
2386
01:46:46.439 --> 01:46:50.039
He was like, iPhones were a conduit along with very
2387
01:46:50.079 --> 01:46:51.159
expensive equipment.
2388
01:46:51.479 --> 01:46:53.159
Yeah, like it's not like you could do this movie
2389
01:46:53.159 --> 01:46:54.920
on it, but look have fun.
2390
01:46:55.399 --> 01:46:57.760
But anyways, he had like a hundred iPhones on this
2391
01:46:57.920 --> 01:47:01.079
like round thing just to get this feeling of movement
2392
01:47:01.159 --> 01:47:03.960
from these zombies. I don't know, like it. It's really
2393
01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:07.800
originally made and very different and innovative. So even for
2394
01:47:07.880 --> 01:47:12.560
Danny Boyle, who has already invented an entire way of
2395
01:47:12.560 --> 01:47:15.720
making a movie, he still went beyond and made something
2396
01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:18.439
even more innovative this time, you know, like good for him.
2397
01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:21.159
Yeah, he's still catching it that he's not studying. Yeah,
2398
01:47:21.199 --> 01:47:24.000
he's like this is mine now. Yeah, he's like what's next?
2399
01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:26.079
And I'm really like this is him and Alan Scarland
2400
01:47:26.079 --> 01:47:28.600
working together for the first time. They hadn't worked together
2401
01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:32.159
since a movie called Sunshine, where a bunch of astronauts
2402
01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:35.119
go to try to nuke the sun. Oh, to like
2403
01:47:35.199 --> 01:47:39.760
restart it because it's dying. I got your slabber. Yeah,
2404
01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:41.439
it's like Chris Evan's like first movie.
2405
01:47:41.680 --> 01:47:45.520
Oh so if you nuke the sun, it just starts
2406
01:47:45.520 --> 01:47:46.319
to re row again.
2407
01:47:46.319 --> 01:47:48.560
That's what they're trying to do because it's like the apocalypse.
2408
01:47:48.680 --> 01:47:53.079
I really like this entire scientist science view.
2409
01:47:53.640 --> 01:47:55.439
I don't know, Yeah, I haven't seen The Sunshine. I
2410
01:47:55.479 --> 01:47:57.760
just know that that's what happens. That's where they watch. Yeah,
2411
01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:00.560
that was like the breakup for them because they had
2412
01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:02.279
like such a big falling out, but it was It's
2413
01:48:02.319 --> 01:48:06.439
interesting because it was a philosophical break like breakup, like
2414
01:48:06.520 --> 01:48:09.279
because yeah, they both had like one had a very
2415
01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:12.199
atheist take of this, like end of the World, and
2416
01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:15.239
the other had a more religious like view. I do.
2417
01:48:15.439 --> 01:48:18.039
I did read about that. Because they didn't talk for
2418
01:48:18.079 --> 01:48:19.880
a long time, or like they didn't work together for
2419
01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:22.399
years and years and years. Everybody thought they just hated
2420
01:48:22.439 --> 01:48:24.319
each other, but it really wasn't that. It was just
2421
01:48:24.359 --> 01:48:27.680
they they couldn't artistically work together. Yeah, and now they
2422
01:48:27.680 --> 01:48:29.560
were like, all right, we got this again.
2423
01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:35.000
Yeah. Yeah, that's a that's twenty eight time later, time later.
2424
01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:36.239
I hope you guys enjoyed this.
2425
01:48:36.520 --> 01:48:36.760
Uh.
2426
01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:39.359
Yeah, we went long because we love them. We do
2427
01:48:39.560 --> 01:48:41.880
almost two years and I'm oh, my god, we're gonna
2428
01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:42.800
have to break this into two.
2429
01:48:42.840 --> 01:48:44.720
Maybe maybe we could.
2430
01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:46.119
I mean I just put it out one.
2431
01:48:46.159 --> 01:48:47.359
I was thinking in the middle of like, oh, we
2432
01:48:47.399 --> 01:48:48.840
should have just been the first two movies, and they've
2433
01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:51.039
been like we're breaking and yeah, I come back.
2434
01:48:51.399 --> 01:48:53.159
Well, let's just put it all out there on one,
2435
01:48:53.199 --> 01:48:54.760
and then that's our one for the month.
2436
01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:57.840
Fuck it, here's your one podcast. It I'll take you
2437
01:48:57.880 --> 01:48:58.840
a month to listen to it.
2438
01:48:58.960 --> 01:49:04.199
Yeah, oh my god, but I love it. I love
2439
01:49:04.239 --> 01:49:06.079
having drinks and talking about movies with you.
2440
01:49:06.199 --> 01:49:06.399
Yeah.
2441
01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:07.159
It's my favorite.
2442
01:49:07.239 --> 01:49:10.920
Mine too. Honestly. Yeah, it's so bonding and I really like,
2443
01:49:11.279 --> 01:49:12.800
I think that we have like a lot of the
2444
01:49:12.840 --> 01:49:15.359
same takes on things, so we can like, oh, yeah,
2445
01:49:15.399 --> 01:49:17.600
that that's great, but then we can also were really
2446
01:49:17.680 --> 01:49:20.640
yes and also have different perspectives like you, Oh you
2447
01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:23.399
said something earlier about the Jimmies.
2448
01:49:23.399 --> 01:49:25.399
Well, it had to do with the Swedish kid, how
2449
01:49:25.439 --> 01:49:27.560
I felt like when I thought about it afterwards, I
2450
01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:29.119
was like, but the Swedish kid was used in a
2451
01:49:29.239 --> 01:49:32.720
very similar event to your point. Okay, lightness, It was
2452
01:49:32.880 --> 01:49:35.640
bringing that lightness into it, and then he wanted to
2453
01:49:35.800 --> 01:49:37.439
end end it with that lightness.
2454
01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:37.800
Yeah.
2455
01:49:37.880 --> 01:49:39.800
And I could see them in a similar like they
2456
01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:41.239
were almost the same, and they're.
2457
01:49:41.079 --> 01:49:43.800
Both from Swedish and they're both Swedish right, so it's
2458
01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:47.039
likest blond they have the Swedish backgrounds.
2459
01:49:47.399 --> 01:49:49.600
And I just thought to myself, like, oh, there's a
2460
01:49:49.640 --> 01:49:52.560
connection there, Like yeah, not really, but like there's a
2461
01:49:52.600 --> 01:49:53.880
connection artistically.
2462
01:49:54.079 --> 01:49:56.399
Yeah. I think there's like a like an artistic moment
2463
01:49:56.399 --> 01:49:58.640
of like we're going to like lighten the mood a little.
2464
01:49:58.520 --> 01:50:00.720
Which is nice. It's nice for people like me and
2465
01:50:00.760 --> 01:50:03.199
my head, which I need a breaking.
2466
01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:04.840
Off into the fucking void and then we're like, okay,
2467
01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:09.039
movie's done by they're like no, and there's Power Rangers. Yeah,
2468
01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:12.319
you're just like okay, cool. Oh I like it.
2469
01:50:12.600 --> 01:50:14.359
At first, Mallory and I walked down at the theater
2470
01:50:14.399 --> 01:50:14.840
and we're.
2471
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:16.520
Like, I don't know, yeah, I don't know alway feel
2472
01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:16.880
about that.
2473
01:50:17.039 --> 01:50:19.319
But then I think it's weekly afterwards we're texting each
2474
01:50:19.359 --> 01:50:20.840
other like I kind of loved it, loved it, and.
2475
01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:22.680
I loved it. Yeah, I think it was a moment
2476
01:50:23.039 --> 01:50:26.960
where it's power shocking. It's so shocking. But I think
2477
01:50:26.960 --> 01:50:29.880
if they didn't have that, that's a bummer of a movie.
2478
01:50:29.920 --> 01:50:30.960
Like you're like, that kid's dead.
2479
01:50:31.359 --> 01:50:34.079
Yeah, it's so bummer because like what's gonna happen with
2480
01:50:34.119 --> 01:50:34.600
that kid?
2481
01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:35.039
Yeah?
2482
01:50:35.079 --> 01:50:38.000
Also then I just leave the theater pissed at the kid. Yeah,
2483
01:50:38.039 --> 01:50:39.800
which I'm still mad at that kid.
2484
01:50:39.920 --> 01:50:41.640
Yeah, it's still in a great choice, but it's like, okay,
2485
01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:43.359
we're going to go somewhere with it. But then it's
2486
01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:45.159
like the kid walking away and be like bye dad
2487
01:50:45.279 --> 01:50:48.239
and like watch Isila and you know, I gotta find
2488
01:50:48.239 --> 01:50:50.479
my own way, and then he's that's all We're black.
2489
01:50:50.479 --> 01:50:53.680
He's dead, but just assuming he dies, right, like, how
2490
01:50:53.680 --> 01:50:54.159
do we.
2491
01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:56.600
Hate that movie? Yeah? I like the Power Rangers.
2492
01:50:56.680 --> 01:50:56.840
We do.
2493
01:50:56.960 --> 01:50:59.319
It also keeps you engaged for the next movie, Yeah,
2494
01:50:59.359 --> 01:51:01.960
because I would have been like, ah, the kid's dead,
2495
01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:04.159
then the next movie. Do we even know if it's connected?
2496
01:51:04.159 --> 01:51:06.119
It could be some other kid, like it could be anything.
2497
01:51:06.159 --> 01:51:10.119
And honestly, I'm so over the marvel uh like screen whatever,
2498
01:51:10.319 --> 01:51:14.439
like the credits after I can I'm done. I don't
2499
01:51:14.439 --> 01:51:15.199
want to wonder if.
2500
01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:17.159
There's a thing that I felt like an after credits scene.
2501
01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:19.039
This is like, okay, but it might as well give it.
2502
01:51:19.800 --> 01:51:20.760
Here's my little.
2503
01:51:20.479 --> 01:51:23.359
Beef with it. I hate like encourse at concerts, I
2504
01:51:23.399 --> 01:51:25.720
fucking hate them. I love you so much right now
2505
01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:28.399
because this is my beef too. The concert is done,
2506
01:51:28.399 --> 01:51:30.800
I see I wanted I love it. We were about
2507
01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:33.640
to we were about to wrap up. I am no,
2508
01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:35.840
I am with you. I want to talk about this.
2509
01:51:37.319 --> 01:51:39.479
I hate them like I want to Okay, like I
2510
01:51:39.560 --> 01:51:41.720
had the moment. The last song is always a good
2511
01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:43.640
last song that they pick where it's like it has
2512
01:51:43.680 --> 01:51:46.000
a big cathartic moment. You're like, thank you for being here,
2513
01:51:46.319 --> 01:51:49.239
this is great. Walk off stage, good show. Let's hit
2514
01:51:49.279 --> 01:51:52.319
the car, you know, and then so much now one more,
2515
01:51:53.640 --> 01:51:54.359
there's so much.
2516
01:51:54.760 --> 01:51:57.000
But but this is what sucks is that audiences been
2517
01:51:57.079 --> 01:51:59.720
have been so trained now yes that if you don't
2518
01:51:59.720 --> 01:52:03.199
have an another song ready like your fuck, yeah, your fuck,
2519
01:52:03.279 --> 01:52:05.399
so you have to do encore is now so like
2520
01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:09.119
even now me with a local band, we always have
2521
01:52:09.199 --> 01:52:13.159
on encore already at least right just in case. But
2522
01:52:13.199 --> 01:52:19.359
like audiences are so like trained to ask for it
2523
01:52:19.720 --> 01:52:21.720
that you're just like, all right, I guess we're doing
2524
01:52:21.800 --> 01:52:22.359
another one.
2525
01:52:22.760 --> 01:52:26.279
Like for me, it's like, okay, this is maybe not
2526
01:52:26.359 --> 01:52:29.279
a great example of it. It's like you have had
2527
01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:31.840
an orgasm, you have tought you finished, and then you're like, great,
2528
01:52:31.840 --> 01:52:33.319
I would love a cuddle, I would love to like
2529
01:52:33.479 --> 01:52:35.760
take your shower. But then it's like, let's go again,
2530
01:52:35.920 --> 01:52:40.119
go again, touching your boobs. You're like, no, I know
2531
01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:45.960
I'm done. I'm going sleep right now alone. I'm gonna
2532
01:52:46.000 --> 01:52:49.359
go and thank you, I'm gonna pee.
2533
01:52:49.840 --> 01:53:00.520
What that's exactly what it is. That's and it drives
2534
01:53:00.560 --> 01:53:03.199
me crazy because I just feel like it's like so
2535
01:53:03.760 --> 01:53:05.840
like built in that I just want it to be
2536
01:53:05.920 --> 01:53:06.359
built in.
2537
01:53:06.560 --> 01:53:08.640
Yes, it does forcing it. It's not organic.
2538
01:53:08.840 --> 01:53:11.159
No, at this point I'm so old that I go
2539
01:53:11.199 --> 01:53:14.199
to concerts and the end is the end. I don't
2540
01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:16.439
stay for encores because I might get a head start.
2541
01:53:16.960 --> 01:53:19.720
Fuck your encore. The only time I stay is if
2542
01:53:19.760 --> 01:53:22.439
I know that those assholes are only going to play
2543
01:53:22.439 --> 01:53:25.439
my favorite song in the encore, yeah, which pisses me
2544
01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:27.399
off when they like hold it over your head, like.
2545
01:53:27.880 --> 01:53:31.399
It makes me so angry. Oh it's so angry. The
2546
01:53:31.520 --> 01:53:34.479
encore for your supercuts or the deep cuts right where
2547
01:53:34.479 --> 01:53:37.199
it's like nobody knows this fucking song. Yes, some people
2548
01:53:37.239 --> 01:53:39.520
love it, like, okay, I'll come and do this thing
2549
01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:42.479
that is not everyone's favorite, So like people don't leave,
2550
01:53:42.640 --> 01:53:45.439
can leave, get a head start, and the super fans can.
2551
01:53:45.279 --> 01:53:48.279
Be like yeah they can super fan Yeah.
2552
01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:51.279
Drives me, God damn makes me fucking insane.
2553
01:53:51.279 --> 01:53:53.399
So I also like when it's over, I want it
2554
01:53:53.399 --> 01:53:54.760
to be over. I don't like to have this like
2555
01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:56.960
I just don't like that feeling and I don't like
2556
01:53:57.439 --> 01:53:59.399
it's getting ready to be over. Yeah, I mean like
2557
01:53:59.479 --> 01:54:01.199
uzerci did you look it up? And oh my god,
2558
01:54:01.239 --> 01:54:04.399
it's crazy. Well we did this, We did this with Sinners.
2559
01:54:04.680 --> 01:54:07.479
We left and we actually were like, well maybe we
2560
01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:10.000
should stay. Yeah, and we stayed for a cut scene,
2561
01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:12.600
and then we left, and turns out there was two.
2562
01:54:12.760 --> 01:54:17.119
There's two. There were two cut scenes. Oh my god, yeah, Coogler,
2563
01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:18.399
I'll tell you right now.
2564
01:54:18.399 --> 01:54:20.159
The second one, the kid goes back to the church
2565
01:54:20.199 --> 01:54:24.960
and plays a song in the church. I'm serious, fucking serious.
2566
01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:27.399
I've seen that movie twice. I did not know that.
2567
01:54:27.600 --> 01:54:35.000
Yeah, there's a second goddamn cut scene. I'm so about it. AnyWho,
2568
01:54:35.800 --> 01:54:39.039
I hope you enjoyed this podcast and our hot takes on.
2569
01:54:40.760 --> 01:54:44.319
Post credits. When you're done, when you finish, you finish.
2570
01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:47.600
You just finish and be done. Women don't want to
2571
01:54:47.640 --> 01:54:48.000
go again.
2572
01:54:48.079 --> 01:54:48.880
I don't want to go again.
2573
01:54:49.600 --> 01:54:51.640
It took a lot out of me. Let me go
2574
01:54:51.680 --> 01:54:53.960
to let me pee and go to sleep, to sleep,
2575
01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:58.640
that's all I want to do. Some water, you know, pee, water, sleep.
2576
01:54:58.880 --> 01:55:01.199
Maybe a shower on the Gentle Cuddle movie.
2577
01:55:01.239 --> 01:55:03.680
Oh, a gentle cuddle could be nice. Maybe after I
2578
01:55:03.720 --> 01:55:06.159
get clothes on. I'm not into the naked cut. It's
2579
01:55:06.199 --> 01:55:08.159
too hot. That's why it's because it's so hot, right, Yeah,
2580
01:55:08.199 --> 01:55:09.399
we've already been too sweaty.
2581
01:55:09.479 --> 01:55:13.520
Let's do a handhold. Handhold, that's a perfect handhold. Pea water,
2582
01:55:13.720 --> 01:55:17.319
maybe a shower. Cuddle perfect, but you have a.
2583
01:55:17.319 --> 01:55:21.000
Cuddle dead fan love it? This is the you love
2584
01:55:21.039 --> 01:55:23.000
it too, you guys, you know you do. And I
2585
01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:27.159
hope that you all survive the cocalyps. Yeah, happy cockalyps.
2586
01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:30.079
Happier cockalypse everyone by.
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01:55:33.439 --> 01:55:35.359
Let's get drunk and talk about your wedding is a
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01:55:35.439 --> 01:55:39.000
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