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Summary
We investigate how character training mitigations interact with reward-hacking RL pressure in a small case study. Specifically, whether anti-cheating character training resists reward hacking and whether it might backfire by causing motivated reasoning, which could reduce chain-of-thought monitorability.
We trained Nemotron-3-Super via distillation from a character specification. The spec describes one of three characters that are anti- or pro-cheating or neutral. We then ran three reward-hacking RL training runs for each character-trained model on ImpossibleBench.
We measure both the reward-hacking rates and whether a monitor model can catch reward hacks given the full transcript. We also use LM judges to classify the presence of motivated reasoning in transcripts.
Setup
Character training: we trained three characters: pro/neutral/anti-cheating by SFT-distilling Claude Sonnet 5 responses (Sonnet prompted with the corresponding character specification, see Figure 2) into Nemotron-3-Super 120B-A12B (three separate LoRA adapters).
Reward-hacking RL: we then further trained these models via RL on ImpossibleBench, a set of coding tasks aimed at eliciting reward hacking. Specifically:
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First published:
September 28th, 2026
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/2maYXkEgnfJHPAkxh/character-training-can-mitigate-reward-hacking-but-can-also
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Summary
We investigate how character training mitigations interact with reward-hacking RL pressure in a small case study. Specifically, whether anti-cheating character training resists reward hacking and whether it might backfire by causing motivated reasoning, which could reduce chain-of-thought monitorability.
We trained Nemotron-3-Super via distillation from a character specification. The spec describes one of three characters that are anti- or pro-cheating or neutral. We then ran three reward-hacking RL training runs for each character-trained model on ImpossibleBench.
We measure both the reward-hacking rates and whether a monitor model can catch reward hacks given the full transcript. We also use LM judges to classify the presence of motivated reasoning in transcripts.
Setup
Character training: we trained three characters: pro/neutral/anti-cheating by SFT-distilling Claude Sonnet 5 responses (Sonnet prompted with the corresponding character specification, see Figure 2) into Nemotron-3-Super 120B-A12B (three separate LoRA adapters).
Reward-hacking RL: we then further trained these models via RL on ImpossibleBench, a set of coding tasks aimed at eliciting reward hacking. Specifically:
- Half of the tasks had broken tests (impossible variant), so the model could only get [...]
Outline:
(00:23) Summary
[... 29 more sections]
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First published:
September 28th, 2026
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/2maYXkEgnfJHPAkxh/character-training-can-mitigate-reward-hacking-but-can-also
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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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