"Vanished Without a Trace: The Mysterious Case of Kelly Dove"

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Well, let's talk about it. They say he vanished without a trace.
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Could it be a psychotic break?
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Or a tragic accident? Police don't know where the body went.
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Thank you all for joining us again this is a new year we're in 2025 i have big
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It's been a year. It really has.
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We had some ups. We had some downs. But we made it through.
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But I take your advice. Let's start this podcast.
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Today's case is about a young mother and wife working the night shift at the gas station.
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She called the police three times asking for help because she felt unsafe because
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an unknown man was outside watching her and harassing her.
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When the police finally came after the third call, she was gone.
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She has been missing for over 41 years. This is the case of Kelly Dove.
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Kelly Dove was born on August the 30th, 1961.
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Kelly was the daughter of Fred and Rachel. Fred and Rachel had three daughters,
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one son, and actually a foster child. Okay.
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In 1977, when she was only 15 years old, Kelly got pregnant.
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She and the baby father, Dale Dove, got married and moved into a new home together.
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The Dove house was about 20 minutes from Kelly's family home,
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and Elaine said that she kept in close contact with them.
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Kelly and Dale's daughter, Tammy, was born on December in 1977.
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A few years after Tammy was born, Kelly decided that she wanted to enroll in
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classes at the local community college so she could one day make a better life for her daughter.
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When Kelly was 20, she worked at a gas station with three of her sisters,
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Deb, Rose, and Elaine. Elaine told Dateline that Kelly felt safe working there
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because her sister, Deb, was a manager at the station.
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On June 17, 1982, three days before Father's Day, Elaine said she remembers
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she'd been fighting with one of her siblings.
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She was so upset she went to Kelly.
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I remember her hugging me after she made me laugh like she always did, Elaine recalled.
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I hugged her and said, I love you, sis. I'll see you this weekend.
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Elaine never saw Kelly again. That night, Kelly was working the overnight shift at a gas station.
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Her mother, Rachel, told Dateline, Kelly was brave, Rachel said.
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So being the only employee working overnight didn't frighten her.
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It would frighten me big time.
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Yeah, same. I've worked the night shift and I was scared. I think I only lasted
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like a week or two. And then I was like, you know what? It's not for me.
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I'm not scared working a night shift with other people.
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But by myself, I'm super scared. I'm scared regardless. Yes.
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I called her and she was busy. She called me back, Rachel said,
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adding that it didn't seem like
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anything was out of the ordinary when she finally did speak with Kelly.
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On June 18, 1982, around 2.27 a.m., Kelly called the Harris-Byrne Police Department
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to say a man was hanging around the gas station, that he was improperly dressed.
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The police actually released one of those phone calls. I'm going to ask you
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to read her phone call. Okay.
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I'm working at the third shift at the Imperial Gas Station.
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I just had an obscene phone call. This guy came in earlier and he was kind of
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dressed improperly, but I kind of ignored him.
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I think it was that guy because he just drove through the parking lot for a
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few seconds before I got the call.
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Could you know, have somebody come keep an eye on me?
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Kelly said to the 911 dispatcher. Out of all three of her 911 calls,
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it was the only one that was released. The other two, the police kept to themselves.
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Two minutes later, she called the police again. According to the family,
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this time she asked if the police could come to the gas station to check on her.
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Kelly told the police that the man had called the gas station from outside and
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he would say filthy things to her.
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She said he was on the gas station property driving a silver Ford.
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At 2 31 a.m kelly placed a third and final call to the police she again reported
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that the man was lurking around the gas station police said that she pleaded
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with them to come help her there was a shuffling noise and then the line went dead.
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Police arrived at the scene shortly after the third call. When they arrived,
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Kelly was nowhere to be found.
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I wonder why they didn't stay on
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the line with her. Like she had to come repeatedly make the phone calls.
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Why didn't they stay on the line? Did she describe what the suspect looked like?
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Well, we don't know if she described it because we don't know what actually
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happened on the phone call.
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This is like what the family's saying that they heard from the police.
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The police kind of kept the phone calls hush-hush. They only released one phone call from them.
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Authorities said that they arrived at the gas station only two minutes after
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the conversation got terminated, but no one was there.
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Dove's purse and magazine that she was reading was left on the counter,
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and a cigarette had burned out in the ashtray.
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There is no indication that the store had been robbed, no sign of struggle,
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and no clues as to dove whereabouts.
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She has never been seen from again.
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Nothing in the gas station would disturb. It was if she just walked away,
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the captain said to Dateline.
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Police then called Kelly's family to tell them what had happened.
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Investigators estimate it would have taken 15 seconds to adopt Kelly,
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force her into the vehicle, and drive away. Her family think whoever took her must have been armed.
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They describe her as sort of a person that would have fought back if she could have.
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Right. Someone working at a nearby convenience store said he saw a man driving
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a gray car stop at the store about a half an hour before Kelly was missing.
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The witness described the man as 20 to 25 years old with short-length blonde hair.
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It hasn't been proven if he was involved in Kelly's disappearance.
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Kelly's sisters say that they got a serve calls and gestures very often when
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women was working at the gas station alone at night.
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However, the calls stopped after Kelly went missing.
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In the six weeks following her apparent adoption, the station only got one of those calls.
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Kelly's parents believe a man who she went to high school was responsible for her disappearance.
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The individual who has not been named publicly has a record of exposing himself
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and making rude phone calls.
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He has never been charged in connection of this case.
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Investigators do not believe Kelly was targeted by anyone.
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They think that her presumed adoption was a crime of opportunity.
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Committed after the kidnapper noticed that she was the only woman working at a gas station.
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After Kelly disappeared, her parents raised her daughter. She was declared legally dead in 1989.
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And the gas station has since been torn down and her case remains unsolved.
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Now, four decades after Kelly disappears, police are racing against time to
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gather more information.
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Four decades and now they're racing against time? Mm-hmm.
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We are working against the clock, says Brother L.
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This happened 40 years ago and the people we need to talk to are not always still around.
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That's going to run before the statute of limitations ever run out on this case. Mm-hmm.
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At the time, police are providing a sketch drawn of the suspect and did not provide a name.
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Who knows, though, if the people that were witnesses or might have known something
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are still alive. It's been 40 years.
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If you do that math, say she was 20.
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They're like in their 60s and 70s and 80s by now. I mean, some people develop
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dementia as early as like 60.
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50, actually. Or 50. Rather well said that the team at HPD investigators this
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case has been in regular communication with a forensic lab about what material
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can be tested before the decade-old investigators become too described.
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However, for Kelly's family, they hope anybody with information will come forward
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to the police to clear everything up.
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As far as a suspect, I have a gut feeling that this is the right one, said Elaine.
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More than 14,000 days have gone by without Kelly, but her sister continued to
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hold out help for justice and answers.
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Some people say, well, isn't the hope gone?
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It's been 40 years, Elaine said. I don't think the hope has ever gone away.
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I think sometimes it gets distant for a while and then you think you got to keep holding on.
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Keep hope alive. Mm.
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Before we end this case, let's remember the young lady that went missing.
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Kelly was a young mother and wife. She was the glue to her family.
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When her siblings was fighting, they went to her for answers.
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She wanted a better life for her daughter, so she went back to college.
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Her daughter was young when she went missing, and she grew up without her mother.
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This is the case of Kelly Dove. Now let's get into some theories.
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Let's get into some theories.
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Music.
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You or me? Good. So before I did this case, I did a little research.
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So I had a call on one of my other podcaster friends.
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Shout out to Super Crime by Megan. Go check her out. She's really good.
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I was confused about like how long the police took.
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She called them at 227.
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Her last call is at 231.
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Wow. That's a four minute gap. There's three calls. I asked her like,
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let's look how far the police station is. It's from the crime scene.
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She said, we looked it up. It was seven minutes.
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But I know some police are there with like circle around their area.
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Why did it take them so long? She called one time asking for help.
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Two time asking for help.
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Three time asking for help. I wonder why the police never released the last
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two. Because you released one.
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Why did you release a second and third?
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Because it's an ongoing investigation.
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But why did you release the first one then? They all released what she said.
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But to me, 15 seconds, could he take her that fast?
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Yes. Because she said that he, like, what her mom said, I read every word her mom.
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Her mom said what her daughter said, like, filthy, them type of words.
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They mean, like, he has no clothes on.
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So to me, it's like, where did he have, like, a gun or a weapon in it?
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And I wonder, did she ever go lock the door?
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Right. Well, I know some people, they just kind of freeze. Some people run.
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Some people fight. Mm-hmm.
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It depends, but she was obviously reaching out for help.
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It's just, unfortunately, the policemen didn't make it in on time.
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I just wonder, what if the police lied about the timeline?
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Two minutes. They're like, oh, it took two minutes for us to get there.
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It only took him 15 seconds to kidnap her. I'm like, okay. So she got off the phone call with you.
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I feel like if she's still on the phone call with the police,
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She would have said like, hey, he's in here with me or something like that.
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She kept saying he's outside, he's outside, he's outside.
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She never said, oh, he's getting close or anything like that.
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I wonder if they didn't release the phone call because it's something in there
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that's so important that the police can look bad at.
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Obviously, they're always going to protect themselves.
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But, I mean, when you are the victim, two minutes can cost you your life,
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which unfortunately cost her her life.
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I don't feel like they would lie about that.
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At the end of the day, the policemen have one job to do, and it's trying to protect our community.
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But they're also not superheroes. else like they're gonna
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get there as fast as they can how they can
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you don't know if yeah it was
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seven minutes away but what if they encountered a red light or what
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if they were in the middle of something you know
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and they had to like you can't just drop your stuff and go like sometimes they
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supposed to drop their stuff and go i understand but i mean you never know like
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you're conversating or you're giving out a speeding ticket or something you
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can't just like Like, oh, forget it. You're not getting the speeding ticket.
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You know, it's just like. But it's different to police officers.
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You got one giving out a ticket. Then you have one that's sitting out probably
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drinking a cup of coffee eating a donut.
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To me, she did three phone calls.
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Out of the first one, I thought the police should have been there, you know, check in.
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But it seemed like they was kind of taking their time a little bit.
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Or what if the dispatch person didn't reach out right on time? Mm-hmm. To.
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Like, it's a whole team effort.
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When I look at this case, the police do not believe that it was somebody that
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she knew or it was just a person. She was there and it was a crime of opportunity.
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For me, for the phone calls just to stop after she went missing,
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I don't know. She could have been stopped. We don't really know.
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Right. This case is hard because it's very creepy a little bit.
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Like late at night at a gas station, you have this.
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Unwell man outside he was doing filthy
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things and i feel like as a woman that's scary right
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and it's hard because she asked for help
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i think that's the hardest part for me because she asked for help she called
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three times and back to back
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you gotta do like you said four minutes she called
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at 227 and again two minutes later and
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then at 237 i mean 231 she was
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scared for her life i think it was a serial killer
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no i don't think
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so because 15 seconds as you
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said he had to move fast he was scaring her
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he was trying to make her very fearful he was
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trying to like get inside her head and then the police said it took 15 seconds
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for him to get her put her in the car and drive away because she said she saw
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a car well also too if he knew that she had been calling the police he knew
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he He had to move fast or else he was going to get caught.
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I just personally believe that there's a lot of crazy people out there.
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And a gas station is an easy target for somebody because they're most of the time open 24-7.
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Anybody can go inside at any time, really.
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So I feel like she was an easy target. somebody was looking to be promiscuous
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and they took it a little too far.
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And maybe instead of going on the hunt every day, what if he was like,
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I'm going to go ahead and hunt her and keep her around for a few until I get bored.
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And then, you know, I just, I personally would not want you working on the second
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shift or the night shift by yourself where you're very vulnerable, but add,
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You know, that wasn't my call. Did she call anybody else, her husband or her mother, her sisters?
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So her mom did call her during the night. And she talked to her mom.
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She said everything was good. Everything was normal.
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They talk around 11 o'clock.
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This happened at 2 o'clock. Yeah. So like it was like a little time,
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you know, gap a little bit.
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Because her mom says her mom always
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called and checked in on each one of her kids make sure it was okay it
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worked because all her siblings work at
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their gas station so it wasn't just her
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but to me it seemed like that gas station was not safe because i don't know
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if you guys remember during the case her siblings said like they got a lot of
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nasty and creepy guys there a lot even though her sister was a manager and she
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felt protected she really wasn't safe you think about it because,
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how many guys were there this was being creepy to them
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yeah i think that's the hardest part you
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think about like it was they all got harassed there yeah to me i feel like if
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you're gonna have somebody at the night shift even if it's a man or a woman
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you should have more than one person it should not be just one person working
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the night shift at a gas station it should be like at least two or three, per se. Right.
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And I just feel so sorry for her because she did get pregnant young,
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but she was trying to make a better life for her daughter. She was like,
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I'm going to go to college.
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I have this job. I think that's why she probably was working a night shift because
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she was probably going to school early in the morning and then go home,
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feed her daughter, take her daughter, and then go to work.
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Yeah, it's very unfortunate that she was trying to do all the right things and
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somebody decided to show up and just take it from her. I think that's the hardest
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part about looking at cases and researching them.
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You see the person probably had like a bad upbringing and they did not let that get them down.
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And they're like, okay, I'm going to work my butt off to succeed and get better in life.
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And then somebody that's unwell come and hurt them.
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That's the hardest part because I know sometime when I was younger,
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I had like a little rough moments in life.
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And then I had to get out there and work my little butt off and seeing somebody
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and trying to come hurt me, I think that, ugh, like all the hard work that she
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was doing that I felt so sad for her.
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My theory is I think it was a serial killer.
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I wonder if the police can go and look at similar cases like her in that area.
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Like what if he was like a little truck driver, you know, He was going through
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town to town because a lot of people who went missing around that time and still
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our time are truck drivers like truck drivers are killing them.
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Well, was the gas station for trucks as well? No, it wasn't for trucks.
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Like, that's the hardest part. It wasn't for trucks.
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But still, though, he could have easily had like his car. I don't know.
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Or he could have been somebody just going through town to town.
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I feel like it's somebody that was obsessed with her.
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Honestly, if they took the time to call up, you know,
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every day and harass her and wait for the right opportunity and basically be
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promiscuous in front of her before he takes her,
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like, he really had some kind of sick,
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twisted desire to be with just her.
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If it was like a truck driver or somebody just passing by, I don't think they
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would really like remember that person because they've been everywhere.
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You know, they're not going to remember every single person.
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I don't think it was a serial killer unless there's a lot of cases out there that are similar.
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But I feel like it was somebody who just kind of got a little obsessed with
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her, wanted her, sought out the perfect opportunity, and did what they wanted
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with her. Did you think that was his only victim?
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That's why I said I think it's a serial killer because I don't feel like he
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would just stop with her.
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How he was acted, even though you could see it, he kind of planned it out.
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He's seeing her call the police.
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He's like, okay, let me keep getting at her, going for her, going for her.
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Was he harassing the other sisters too?
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So we don't know if it was him, but the sisters said that they got phone calls
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from an unknown man at that gas station a lot of times.
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But when she went missing, it stopped.
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But that's what I'm saying. Like, he could have just called and was waiting
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for her to pick up the line.
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Or was he talking to the other sisters the same way? The same way.
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What if he just wanted a sister?
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Like, they all worked the night shift. They was all there. What if he like,
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oh, this is the perfect time for me to get my victim?
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Probably wasn't just her. He probably wanted her sister named Deb, Rose, or Elaine.
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It didn't matter. But he probably would have gone back if he wanted those particular
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sisters. Okay, I can see that.
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I don't know. I mean, I wish, we say this almost every time.
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I wish we had more information, but we're never going to understand why people do what they do.
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They can explain it to us, hands down, like tell us each step why they did.
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I see me like, but why? I don't understand. Right. Why do you feel like you're
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entitled to take somebody else's lives or tell somebody what they should do with theirs?
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You know, it's just everybody has a life of their own and you have to get permission,
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consent before you can even attempt to do anything.
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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's just...
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When I think of the case, I love how Aileen ended it. I mean,
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I like how Aileen said her quote.
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She said, yes, sometimes my hope get dim.
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But I think back and like, no, I got to keep having hope. And I feel like that
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can go to so many different ways.
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You're struggling in life. You're having a hard time. That quote is so important for people.
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Like, don't give up because hope is gone. Hope is never going to always keep fighting.
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Because one thing somebody can't take away is your hope and your dreams.
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Right. I feel like the family, the police say that they've been working around the clock.
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I feel like the family should put pressure on them and say, hey,
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what about those two other calls?
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What was said in those two calls?
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Obviously, you guys haven't figured that out in 40 years.
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Let the rest of the people know what happened with those two other calls.
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Right. Maybe somebody else knows something that could help.
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Or as nowadays, look at us. Think about the Gabby case.
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She was found because social media kept hounding, hounding, hounding the police. Like, go find her.
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Look at this. He was right here. Look how she's moving.
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They analyzed it so good that the police was like, OK, let me look at this again. Let me do this.
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Exactly. Sometimes you probably have to put that little evidence you got that
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you want to save to the public.
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What is there to lose? Right. I mean, he's like...
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If he was 25 when they said 20 and 25, it's about in his 60s, almost 70s.
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You know, I wish that they got his voice. That would have been so amazing.
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That because somebody could have heard like, oh, I think I heard that voice before.
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You know, I feel like only reason I don't think she knew the person because
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she would have said something.
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You know, another person, the mom said, you remember her friend from high school?
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She said he did phone calls like that. he was
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publicly you know showing his body around a lot i
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wonder if they really looked into him but you think she
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will know him though she like oh i like i
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go to high school with him well when it's all dark you don't
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really know you just kind of see like a
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shadow and especially too if they you have
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like a beaming light on your eyes it'll be
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hard to make out who's actually there but
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that makes sense like he fits the description how did
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the police rule him out we don't even know his name the
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family said like hey this is what we think it is the family like
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kind of kept his name hush hush but i
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wonder if they ever gave his picture to the man
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who saw the person yeah what they're like
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hey did you see him or i wonder he
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matched the sketch i would
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have a sketch on social media and if you look on youtube you saw the
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sketch too but i wonder did they compare how
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he looked or you know i know
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too they were saying that the suspect was driving a certain car did he match
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that true i wonder that too or i wonder if they can go back i know she didn't
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give a lot of details about the car but a civil ford i mean how hard like.
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I mean, I wonder if, okay, guys, I watched so many crime shows,
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so sorry, but I'm finna put my little criminalized head on.
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I wonder if they can go to like back into that time period, look up people who
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have civil cars, like civil forwards, as she said, try to narrow it down with
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the age group so you can take someone away that wasn't male.
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On the age group, all that description, the hair color, could he say he had blonde hair?
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I wonder. Well, if it was his mom's car or something, it wouldn't be registered.
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But, I mean, that's a good way, knocking on people's doors. Hey, did you have this car?
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And do you know so-and-so? You know, it's just...
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I'm not clever. You said this, all right? Like, I agree with you.
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Like, I'm like, yes, queen, sorry. That was so sorry.
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I don't know. I mean, any information would help, honestly. What is there to
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lose? Right. But I mean, that is a good idea.
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She described the car. She said a civil force.
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I mean, back then, civil force wasn't that common of a car.
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Even though you can probably have 2,000, you can easily narrow it down.
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Even if it's a woman, you can say, did she have a child?
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Or did she have a brother? Someone with a description.
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Narrow it down, narrow it down, narrow it down. And say, okay,
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where was this person around in the early 80s?
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You know, try to narrow it down. And then, I mean, they said they run out of time.
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It was like sad because I think the police are scared that the person might be dead.
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Even though he could be deceased, I think it would give like the family some
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type of closure a little bit. Right.
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Because they can't bury her, but at least they know like, okay,
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we did find the person that hurt my daughter. Right.
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I mean, it's hard as a parent. So, guys, I mean, this case, our theories, we play it my fair.
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I hope that this, as I said in every case, I hope that this episode gets to
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the people that it needs to get to.
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Right. Like, please, bring out the 911 call. See if somebody can hear something
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in her voice or anything.
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Let's get this case out of it. Let's use our social media power.
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Right. To help the family get the closure because her sisters still have hope.
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We're on all social media. You can check us out. This month,
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we are going to be on two podcasts.
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I will let you know days that we will be on there. I cannot wait for you guys to come check us out.
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We're going to be guests. We're going to be the special guests.
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I can't wait to sit back and let somebody else read and tell me the story.
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Because I'm in research the story. I'm always the one in research.
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So it's fun to be in the passion of seek this time. Right.
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Lesbian detective.
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Unsolved cases. She's still missing. Yeah, they haven't found her yet.
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Well, let's talk about it. They say he vanished without a trace Could it be a psychotic break?
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I don't know Or a tragic accident Police don't know where the body went Unsolved
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murders, bodies still missing That's unheard, where's the witness?
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Lesbian detectives, what's going on? City on high alert, this out the norm He did what the who?
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Man, that ain't real, these crimes ain't true Then come uncover these theories
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