NFL Player Props, Suspicious Kiosks & Betting Parlays?!

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Welcome into KIV and Crack. Monday morning, I survived Tennessee barely.
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If there's any comments about saying how tired I look,
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keep those to yourself, boys and girls. Bill Krackenberger had
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an amazing week as well. Bill, you're on the top
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of the Wager Talk leaderboard now, so kudos to you.
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I had some frustrating games yesterday. But I have a
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question for you and I have a question for a
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lot of people and they can drop it in the
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comment section. Do you think my Chargers plus seven and
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a half was a bad bet? Do you think like,
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I feel like it was still a good bet and
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I would make that bet again. But the comment section
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on Twitter is like, no, you, you, you know, they
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failed the eye test week one. They failed the eye
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test week two. There was a point in time where
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I was like, oh great. They're going to win this
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game outright. A couple of minutes left. Bill score late.
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and the Chargers elect to kick a field goal to
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make a one-score game a one-score game. So your thoughts
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on this debate on a Monday morning.
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Yeah. I'll tell you.
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For the Chargers to not win that game, to not
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cover that game, that's a sin.
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I said it was criminal.
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And then the commenters on X are like, you shouldn't
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have been betting that game. It was just trash game.
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And I'm like, It's easy to say that now, but
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if you watch the game, it's one of the early
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games that was.
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I had the same routine.
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I finished my show that I do on Sunday mornings,
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then I go out to breakfast, come back home, I
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have my screens up with my red zone, and then
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I actually had the Chargers on in the background, the Chargers-Buffalo,
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and I think that the Chargers should have covered the game.
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If I had the Chargers in that game... I would
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have been upset that I lost.
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I was very upset. I was very frustrated with my
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Saints loss. And then I feel even worse because I
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bet the Ravens minus three. I gave it out on
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bet on it. I posted on WagerTalk. And everybody that
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bought the play on WagerTalk got three and a half.
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So for what I felt like was a push, it's
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just kind of been one of those like yuck Saturdays. Yuck, yuck, yuck.
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I have on my phone here.
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I'm going to read you the note. The Raiders are 3-0,
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and the Chargers are 0-3. Crazy. And people line up
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to bet NFL sides 10 minutes before kickoff into the
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most efficient market. I know I'm a broken record. And
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the reason why I did so well is, of course,
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because of player props, widely available player props that are
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available at BetMGM, Caesars, DraftKings, Fandle, many of the big sportsbooks,
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all the big sportsbooks. I'm not giving out a game
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that's not available at multiple places. So NFL, very tough
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to– Very tough to beat. Very frustrating.
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Like I said, the Raiders are 3-0.
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Crazy. I was all over the Saints. I gave them
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out as my $ 5 Tuesday play. Saints up double digits
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on cruise control. I land when the Wi-Fi is still on,
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but it's not very good as you're landing. And I land.
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I get out of the airport. I'm like, what happened?
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And then by the time I get home, they lose
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the game outright. And I'm like, all right. It's going
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to be one of those Sundays. For you, though, you
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had a great Sunday. 9-2. over the last three.
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Days in the NFL.
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Yeah, NFL.
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10-3 over the last seven days. 27-17 over the last
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30 days. You are currently number two, right behind my
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good friend Hakeem Proffitt in the last 30 days. Otherwise,
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last three and seven, you're sitting number one on the leaderboard.
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Yeah, Kel, you know, I've been saying that, though, and
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I'm not a good promoter. Thank God you promote my stuff.
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I've been saying I'm going to beat NFL player props.
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I'm going to win there. The books aren't going to
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like me. They don't want me betting the player props
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for sure. I put up a tweet. that got 125,000
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views the other day on Twitter. It was me betting
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player props. People say to me, why do you have
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to sell games? Why? Because you guys are allowed to
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bet and I'm not. A perfect example was... Right here
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at Resorts World, they cheated customers. I put this up
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here on Twitter, talked about it, and I told people
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exactly what goes on for an advantage sports bet.
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I'm like, this is only $ 200, by the way.
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$ 200.
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I'm trying to bet. Of course I want more. I
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want $ 2, 000.
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I was betting like $ 5, 000 a prop in Pennsylvania when
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I was there week one. Thank God it was good.
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But literally, went into Resorts World. And I said, let
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me go on their kiosk. I've never done that before.
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And I was trying to bet $ 200 on player props.
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The first five went through. And as a matter of fact,
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I think I went eight and one at, at resource world,
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but I was trying to bet one. Like I got
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to like the sixth or seventh and I seen, they
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kept putting me in a queue. It was actually a queue.
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It said, your bet is being looked at by a trader.
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I said, I know what's going to happen here. They're
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going to, they're going to, I thought they were just
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going to deny me. It was much worse than that.
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They cheated me. I actually went to go bet something.
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I know it was Williams. Actually, it would have been
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a loser. It actually saved me money in the end.
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You know, I would have had two losses. Under 59
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and a half, Williams on Dallas, trying to bet his
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rushing yards. Went to go bet it, and I'm recording
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it because I figured they were going to deny it.
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And they did much worse. They said... Line denied. I said,
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bet amount denied. So I went down to $ 100 just.
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To put $ 100 in.
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Just to see. I'm sitting there. I'm going to do it.
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And they said, no, it's no longer minus $ 1. Oh. $ 1.
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13. No more $ 1.
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13 or $ 1.
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12.
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Now it's $ 1.
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70.
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So they actually changed the line based on the way
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I was betting. And people said, well, just bet the
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wrong way and bet the other side. No.
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One.
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At Resorts World, you can't bet props at the counter.
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They're only at the kiosk. So I'm going to the kiosk.
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Which is ridiculous in itself.
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Yeah, every bet goes through.
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They should just make it $ 100 minimum then, you know,
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on a prop or something. So I understand sometimes. And
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by the way, the counter guys were so nice. The
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tellers were great. I tipped them. Even yesterday, going in
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with my eight winning tickets, I went in. They already
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knew about the tweet, the supervisors and stuff. I didn't
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say anything.
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They knew.
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And I even tipped them because they're very nice guys.
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And it's not their fault. Even the people behind the counters.
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When you have these big corporations, it's going to a
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risk department somewhere where someone's sitting safely behind a desk
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and a computer in an office somewhere and getting their
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jollies off, you know, denying $ 200 wagers. Only because they
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don't have the balls to go out and do it
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themselves and work and go out for a living and
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bet for a living, have the balls to do it,
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than just sitting behind a risk department denying $ 200 bets.
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And now you get blasted for it on every single
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show I do, including Nationwide Fox. Now you get blasted
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for it. And if they want to throw me off
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the shows, let them throw me off the shows.
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Fine with me.
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I'm in a great situation in life. I don't have
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to worry about getting thrown off shows. Not trying to sound.
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I don't think you're going to get thrown off the
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shows for telling the truth.
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I'm just saying. I'm going to tell everyone, like, I
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stick up for players. When I don't have no skin
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in the game, customers that write me in and say, hey,
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this happened to me, I say, give me a video,
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I'll blast them.
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I stick up for Joe Public. That's what I do.
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Listen, I do understand that. Let's back it up a
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little bit. I do understand that over the app and
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on the kiosks, they have to protect themselves a little
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bit more, right, than over the counter. But then you
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have to allow people to walk up to the counter
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and make these wagers. Am I incorrect on that?
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Yeah.
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All the other books do allow you.
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You're right, Kel.
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I didn't give that a thought. The other books do
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allow you to bet.
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At the counter the props you're right the ones that
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do i don't have many here i lost westgate that
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was my that was my bread bread and butter there
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so i have circa mgm and i was going to
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try to put resorts world in the uh repertoire here
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but uh yeah in the arsenal but that's not going
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to happen here so but let me just finish what
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i was saying people in the comments said oh the
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bet would have lost anyway this has nothing to do
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with the bet winning or losing it's nothing to do
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with that it just happens yeah that was one of
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my losing bets i only had two for the whole
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weekend i mean um So this is one of the
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ones that lost big deal. What people don't understand, and
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sometimes it's my fault. I don't put things into layman's terms.
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They can Twitterverse, understand sports betting, and understand. Some people said,
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that's not the case. That didn't happen because of you.
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That happened because it was in there, and you didn't
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update the lines.
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Listen, I'm very schooled and very versed in this. It happened.
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It was purposely done to me. I called gaming. I
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spoke to gaming, which I usually don't do that. I
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spoke to gaming, gaming agent called me back. He was,
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he pretty much knew, he knew that, you know, a
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lot of times, sometimes you get a gaming agent that
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just doesn't know somebody's aunt or uncle got them in.
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They just don't know the sports betting space and they
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have to be trained in it. And I'll be happy
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to talk to him about how it works and what
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the sports betting space is. They mostly, they, you know, they,
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they actually police a lot of the tables, slot machines, customers,
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And so I kind of understand it, but I really don't, too,
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because we've had sports betting here since the beginning of time.
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So anyway, got a gaming agent on the phone, explained
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to him what happened. And he was like, well, they
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can use the excuse. It was bet somewhere else, I guess.
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So I said, buddy, if you're around town gaming, when
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you call a gaming agent, they're in a casino around town.
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I said, come on down to Resorts World. I'll be
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happy to buy you lunch.
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Come on down.
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And you pick a prop, anyone you want. You can
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just close your eyes and point. I'm going to bet
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$ 200 on it, and you're going to see what's going
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to happen. The same exact thing, because it happened multiple times.
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So do you think it's because they knew you were
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at the kiosk?
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No, I think it could have been anybody. It could
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have been you. It could have been anybody. After five bets,
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they didn't want to take $ 200 bets. They were like, oh,
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this guy's making me work. You know what I mean?
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Get a job mopping floors.
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Work the fry station if you don't like what you're doing.
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Don't deal with anybody.
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Don't deal with no big decision making.
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Okay, let's play the inverse of that real quick, Crack,
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because I've heard of people, quote unquote, jamming the kiosks.
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I think we've all been.
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I wasn't.
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Jamming means you're betting multiple times the same exact bet.
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I wasn't doing that. Or you had better yet.
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Jamming means I have three or four guys with their backpacks.
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These nerds, they don't know any better. They think, oh,
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let's try it. Let's try this. You know, they want
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to put up, you know, I know what happened at DraftKings.
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DraftKings had to get rid of 80 percent of their
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kiosks at resorts in Atlantic City and Foxwoods because of this.
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These guys with their backpacks that don't know any better,
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you know, big fancy college graduates, no street smarts, no
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common sense.
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They just think that, oh, well, let's go do this.
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Let's go. The analytics say this.
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I should bet this. Let's all go together, guys. Three, two, one, go.
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Of course, that's jamming kriyask. I'm betting by myself.
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Oh, you know, of course.
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I mean... Obviously, it won't happen again. I'm going to
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blast them on every single show. They're cheating the public.
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They want losers only. Shame on them. Shame on Resorts World.
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Five billion dollar building, cheating customers.
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Who is their sports book? Is it just an in-house one?
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It's an in-house one. Yeah, it's an in-house one. And
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I've heard now from multiple people. told me that this
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has happened to them on the Resorts World app, kiosks.
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This is across the country. I didn't even know that.
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Resorts World and other states like Pennsylvania and stuff has happened.
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Some guy was showing me. But yeah, some of the people,
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I actually blocked some people.
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On Twitter because they just.
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Don't know and they refuse not to know and act
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like they know.
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You have to remember like on Twitter, right? So like
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on Thursday Night Football, we had a 30% boost on
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Hard Rock Bet, right? And every primetime game, me, Ariel,
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and Joe, we put together like a little fun parlay.
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Like right last night, we had the Broncos, Bo Nix
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over passing attempts and the under. Talk about... A stressful
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fourth quarter. That was not very much fun. However, we
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would not have been able to win Broncos and the under.
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So it was kind of dead in the water. But
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Thursday night we hit our prop bet and everybody's like, well,
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the math doesn't math. And I'm like, that's because there's
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a 30%. No, can't be. It would say it. I'm like,
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I said it in the tweet. Like I said in the,
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we have a 30% profit boost. We are going to
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use for Thursday night football. And it went over like
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multiple people, fake ticket, fake ticket. I go, if you
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think I have enough time. To create a $ 100 fake
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parlay ticket for a show that I do every single day.
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You don't know me at all. I don't have enough
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time to do that. I have enough time to bet
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$ 100 on the Hard Rock app to put in our parlay,
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take a screenshot of it, and post it to all
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of you guys. That is how much time I have.
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By the way, Kelly, you're spot on correct. I don't
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ever recommend betting parlays for anybody. But even I get
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$ 100 boost on the max of that $ 100. Now, I
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am an idiot. I didn't use any of them this weekend.
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I get like three different ones at BetMGM every week.
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They give you 25% boost. It's $ 100 max. I didn't
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use any of them.
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I let them sit there and now they expire, I'm sure,
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less like I used them tonight.
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It's good to do that even because what you want
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to do, you don't want to bet a straight bet
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that's minus 120 and now you're getting plus 105. You
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don't want to do that. If you're forced to do it,
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that's fine, but You want to maximize, especially free bets.
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If you get free bets, bonuses from your sports book,
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You want to bet something that you're taking plus money,
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like 3-1, 4-1, especially, like I said, free bets. Even
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though it's a sucker bet, yeah, it's a sucker bet.
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Well, yes, in a way.
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But not with a free bet or a bonus bet
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where now you're turning the odds around on the sportsbook.
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You should absolutely bet that and get a nice comeback.
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Now I'm not talking about 20 or 30 or 50-1.
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but something like two, three, four, five.
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So for example, I woke up to this morning of
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my producer saying fade Kelly in Vegas. And I'm like, listen, Jacob,
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I can't win the game for these teams as well.
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Right.
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And so what I ended up doing was because both
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the saints and the Ravens were both three and a
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half at that time. And I, those are my two
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favorite NFL sides for yesterday. I put them in a
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parlay for him on his free bet. Right. It was
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ended up being like plus one 25. I think I
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did both money lines and, And, and he, and he
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was like laughing about his $ 25 free bet. But I
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was like, listen, you, when you got, when you have
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these like little things, you want to use them to
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go your way.
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Right.
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And like a 30% profit boost. It was really funny
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when I was on with hard rock bet. And he's like, Hey,
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we'd like for you guys to do these same game
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parlays where each of you give out a favorite bet
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for the primetime game. And I couldn't figure out how
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to do it when I was on the phone or
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when I was on the zoom call. And the guy goes,
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you don't know how to put together a same game parlay.
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And I said, no, Uh, I have never made a
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same game parlay until today. And he was like, why
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does that not surprise me? And I was like, sir,
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I do things by the book. There are rules, but
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if we're going to get some profit boost, if we're
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going to get some fun stuff for these primetime games,
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I'll throw a hundred bucks for a team ticket. You know,
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we hit the one the other night that was almost
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six to one that free rolls us for the next
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six shows. Let's see. Let's see how it plays out.
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Are you down at Hard Rock in Tampa and Hollywood
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or just Tampa?
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Well, I can go to both, but the app on
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the phone is really the easiest. Tampa's 45 minutes from
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the house.
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No, I meant to do your shows. Don't you do
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Hard Rock? Oh, no.
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I get to do it remote. It's the best.
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Okay.
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But hearing big things in the future for us to
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be able to go do, like, for Super Bowl, March Madness,
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things like that, where we're going to have, like, a
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setup probably at the one in Miami. They threw a
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NFL party for week one crack. That was great. It
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kind of put Vegas to shame, I'm not going to lie.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, they're very good to me.
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Hard Rock, oh, man, I have.
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Done very well. I'll just say that. I was going
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to use some different words.
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But I have done very well at Hard Rock, and
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the counter is very good to me. All the guys
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down at Hollywood knew me. They were so friendly. The
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management was great. Then I was betting some stuff.
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They didn't move it.
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I was like, listen, guys, I'm betting your max bet
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on props, $ 1, 000 at the window. And you guys didn't
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move the line. Can I re-bet it at the kiosk?
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Or he goes, yeah, let me re-bet the same line.
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So they were real good to me multiple times. Futures,
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I've destroyed them on futures. I went like 4-0 two
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years ago for big amounts of money that I kept
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on re-betting over and over again. They were very good
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to me. People said, oh, you're going to park, rock, bet.
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I don't know, crack the kiosk there. You might get thrown.
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They were good to me.
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And we weren't a sponsor or anything.
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Crack it, give. Yeah.
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Give our audience some guys out there who may be
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concerned about getting booted. I have been booted from a few,
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but I think having a good relationship and that's why
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you keep bringing up the Westgate on the show, because
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you had such a good relationship there where there was
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a mutual respect. And I'm sure you have that at
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Circa probably have that at bed MGM kind of let
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everybody know like a good advice to have like a
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good respectful relationship with your bookmaker so that you don't
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get thrown out of some of these places.
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You know, I go on Visa on Thursdays and I
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do a show and I say I had something here.
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I wrote down Gil's name. OK, I'm going to give
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it to you, though. I wrote this down for Gil, though.
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I said, Gil, sportsbook directors are tolerant of me, but
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would rather see me not playing with them. So they're
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tolerant of me. but they would rather see me not
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playing with them for sure.
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Yeah, but some of them actually respect you and will
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move the market, right?
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Oh, for sure.
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There were times I was talking.
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To John Murray, and while he couldn't say, oh, crack
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came in and bet it, he could say, I saw
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your buddy earlier. He came in and bet X, Y,
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and Z.
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You know what I mean?
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And like, oh, we moved off of three.
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I think it's a statute of limitations. I can say
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this now.
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So I bet Banchero over there to go first. in
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the draft. And I went over there, there were 20
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to one, I think there were, it was 20 to one.
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So of course I go to the counter and say,
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what's the most money I can bet. And they say
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a thousand. I said, okay, thousand dollars or 20 to one.
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And I think they moved to 16 to one. I
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believe it was six. They moved this 20, then 16.
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I bet it again for a thousand bucks. And Murray
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was years later.
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It says to me, I told them, what are they doing?
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Crack's betting, they're max betting.
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We're now six to one.
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Go to six to one. And unbelievably, Benchero went back
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up when one of the influencers on ESPN, one of
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the insiders, said that he wasn't going first. He was
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going third. But then 20 minutes before the draft, the
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actual pick, he actually changed his mind, that guy on air.
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But it actually went back to 12 to one because
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I went to the boarder. here after one of my
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shows went to the border at Arizona to bet draft
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Kings back when I was allowed to bet draft Kings
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on their app and hit it again at 12 to
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one and multiple times. But Murray actually said though, what
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are we doing? He got, he got mad. He got
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mad at the time that they took.
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I'm sure that they have a list of people, right?
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Like I had a buddy that they booted and he said, well, here's,
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you know what you did and we can either have
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a mutual discussion about it or you can no longer
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bet here. And I don't think that that's generally the
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case of why people get booted, not because you're trying
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to be advantageous or, you know, win one over on
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the sports book.
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Right.
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Like I had a buddy the other night that showed
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me a picture. I think it was like Cal plus
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51 and a half.
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Right.
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That should have been the total. It was a local.
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And I said, yeah, go ahead and bet it and
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watch how fast it gets deleted. It'll be deleted within
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the hour. Sure enough. He goes, 34 minutes. I go,
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I told you. There's a difference, though, with the regulated
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markets and what they're allowed to do. They're not allowed
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to delete it, but they are allowed to kick you
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out afterwards.
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Well, like a perfect example.
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I don't talk about a lot of times about NFL
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sides because I always tell people, don't go crazy about
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NFL sides. But like this morning, I'll show you. There's
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my South Point app. Do you think they want me
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betting $ 3, 000 over and over again? on the same team?
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Like I bet $ 3, 000 twice. That's their max bet. $ 3, 000 twice.
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I'll tell you guys what I bet. If it's available,
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it's worth a bet. It's not worth more than what
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I bet on a prop yesterday. I want to bet
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as much money as I can on a prop. But
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I think I'll have the best of these lines when
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it comes game time. Lions minus three, minus $ 1. 10. And
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I actually like the Broncos plus three. That's the weaker
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one of the two, though, plus San Fran.
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But I rate them both the same, actually.
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You know, both teams, you know, if you look at
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the Broncos, I think they struggled this year. I think
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the Lions, even though they're doing well, even though they
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beat the Jets yesterday, I think the Lions have struggled.
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Yeah, so I kind of just used the Lions yesterday
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for Survivor because I was trying to figure out which
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teams had the higher upside. And I do think Kansas
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City has the higher upside. I do think the Bills
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have a higher upside. Plus, of course, I like the
483
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Chargers yesterday. So, of course, I didn't want to use
484
00:20:41.779 --> 00:20:43.880
the Bills for Survivor. But I thought, you know what?
485
00:20:43.900 --> 00:20:46.539
Let me just use the Lions now because I don't
486
00:20:46.579 --> 00:20:49.859
have to save them for Thanksgiving. And I really just
487
00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:53.390
don't trust this team, right? They've been– Bad, bad play
488
00:20:53.470 --> 00:20:55.740
at the bills on the ropes to the saints on
489
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the ropes to the jets, like just get rid of them.
490
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And now I don't have to even think about them
491
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for the rest.
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Of the season. Okay.
493
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So, so are you in, uh, you had the lines yesterday.
494
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You have, how many do you have? How many picks
495
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do you have? Do you have a certain amount of pictures?
496
00:21:08.690 --> 00:21:10.529
So 24 picks, which is crazy because they have all
497
00:21:10.549 --> 00:21:12.930
the double pick weeks. Here's the thing. It has been
498
00:21:13.069 --> 00:21:15.769
such a gauntlet of a bloodbath. Another 2000 people went
499
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out yesterday. Okay. I think there's just a little, let
500
00:21:17.769 --> 00:21:20.269
me actually look. I think there's a little over 6,500
501
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of us left. Oh, wow. The big splash contest.
502
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This is the one that.
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Guy, CJ, RJ, CJ, CJ, is that his name? The
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president of the company? TJ, sorry.
505
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Sorry, TJ. So TJ reached out to me.
506
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I talked to him on the phone and I just
507
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had to tell him that I do my my podcast
508
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from circa, I don't think it'll be very well. I
509
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think Derek, he was nice though.
510
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He was so nice. He was a good guy.
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Great guy.
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57, 26, 5,726 people remain out of the almost 21,000
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that entered. So we have one left.
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That's it.
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I got one left. And we kind of just got
516
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to decide, you know, each week I, I said, save, right.
517
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Save the bills. They have a higher, I said, they
518
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have a higher upside. The chiefs have a higher upside.
519
00:22:05.609 --> 00:22:05.849
Yes.
520
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Right. But I knew I was like, listen, I would
521
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rather go out early than late. But we've got to
522
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actually just get there. And yes, fading the Dolphins seems
523
00:22:15.329 --> 00:22:17.289
to be the right move right now. But even the
524
00:22:17.349 --> 00:22:19.910
Dolphins looked pretty good there for three quarters.
525
00:22:20.390 --> 00:22:23.980
Yes. Not covering that game's bad for people like that.
526
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I was like.
527
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I'm not taking the dolphins. I'm not that stupid. And
528
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then what did the dolphins do? They dolphin in the fourth.
529
00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:35.740
I used them in, in four of my five, uh,
530
00:22:36.180 --> 00:22:38.619
you know, play a million centuries.
531
00:22:39.220 --> 00:22:42.450
And, um, yeah, it was like a big, it was advantageous.
532
00:22:42.509 --> 00:22:45.950
I think it was like.
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12 and a half.
534
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Contest because I think in contest play crack, it's a
535
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little bit different.
536
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Right.
537
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Okay.
538
00:22:50.390 --> 00:22:52.430
Sometimes you want to zig when others zag and maybe
539
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not this early in the season, but But when you
540
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know public's going to be heavy on one side, like
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they were yesterday with the Chiefs, taking that plus 10.5
542
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.319
is going to give you some upside in the contest.
543
00:23:03.339 --> 00:23:06.380
We have a weekly wager talk contest only on Sundays.
544
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You pick every single Sunday game against the spread. And
545
00:23:09.359 --> 00:23:12.089
I didn't have a bad day on there, but the
546
00:23:12.140 --> 00:23:14.549
Dolphins and the Chargers kept me out of the money.
547
00:23:15.500 --> 00:23:18.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Cal, I want to finish your question.
548
00:23:18.019 --> 00:23:20.000
You asked a question. I mean, me and Kelly is
549
00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:21.839
like brother and sister. You understand? We could just go
550
00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:23.980
on back and forth forever and just go all over
551
00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:26.750
the place and forget things. So, but Cal, I want
552
00:23:26.769 --> 00:23:28.710
to answer and finish your question with like John Murray.
553
00:23:28.730 --> 00:23:32.940
So he's tolerant of me, but I don't know.
554
00:23:32.980 --> 00:23:35.279
I love to ask John, like, when I was playing
555
00:23:35.299 --> 00:23:38.440
at Westgate, you were tolerant, you took my bets, and
556
00:23:39.069 --> 00:23:42.069
did you want them because maybe you would say, hey,
557
00:23:42.150 --> 00:23:43.970
crack bet this, we should all remove and get the
558
00:23:44.029 --> 00:23:46.529
customer base on the other side of that? Or were
559
00:23:46.549 --> 00:23:50.430
you just tolerant of me because, you know, I have
560
00:23:50.450 --> 00:23:52.210
a lot of views? I get 20 million views a
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month on social media.
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I don't want to speak for John, but I would
563
00:23:56.059 --> 00:23:58.640
absolutely say it's because you're respected better. I think that
564
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is the reality. I think there are... probably 20 or
565
00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:06.180
30 guys that they are quote unquote tolerant of or
566
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:08.920
a little bit, you know, are going to take care
567
00:24:09.009 --> 00:24:11.130
of because they know those guys are going to come
568
00:24:11.230 --> 00:24:14.230
in early in the week with low limits. You can
569
00:24:14.529 --> 00:24:16.210
bet over the app, you can bet over the counter
570
00:24:16.890 --> 00:24:19.250
and Hey, here's what we're willing to do for you.
571
00:24:19.269 --> 00:24:21.609
You can sharpen up your lines. Exactly.
572
00:24:21.950 --> 00:24:24.289
And that's really what it is. I mean, aren't the
573
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Caesar and I talk about it all the time on
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Saturday and Sunday on last call. that you want those
575
00:24:28.500 --> 00:24:30.829
sharp guys to come in early in the week so
576
00:24:30.869 --> 00:24:34.930
that you know if you're looking the right direction, right? So, Crack,
577
00:24:34.970 --> 00:24:37.329
you come in. You told me you bet the Jets
578
00:24:37.369 --> 00:24:39.630
plus seven last week on the show, right?
579
00:24:40.089 --> 00:24:40.490
Yes. Okay.
580
00:24:41.009 --> 00:24:43.190
Gets moved to six and a half. Goes back to seven.
581
00:24:44.369 --> 00:24:47.089
You sided that game, I believe, on seven. I believe
582
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the game landed seven.
583
00:24:48.029 --> 00:24:48.789
Yeah, it did.
584
00:24:49.410 --> 00:24:53.950
And I think telling the bookmakers, hey, seven's the right number.
585
00:24:54.970 --> 00:24:56.710
Got them to get down to six and a half. Granted, again,
586
00:24:56.730 --> 00:24:59.519
they got sided. But I do think that game could
587
00:24:59.539 --> 00:25:01.980
have easily landed three. Yeah.
588
00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.500
So that's plus seven push. Had it a couple times there.
589
00:25:04.859 --> 00:25:05.519
Plus seven. Yeah.
590
00:25:05.740 --> 00:25:08.759
And that's another thing. You know, I watched that end
591
00:25:08.819 --> 00:25:12.809
of that game. Boy, I think with some of these teams,
592
00:25:13.769 --> 00:25:16.609
I swear, they're coached so badly.
593
00:25:16.630 --> 00:25:19.299
I don't talk that way. But I think Glenn... It's
594
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:20.299
a terrible coach.
595
00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.099
There's a lot of terrible coaches.
596
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There's a lot of terrible coaches.
597
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They need someone, analytics or someone that's next to them.
598
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:29.440
They need me to tell them.
599
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:31.720
That kicking field goals is for losers? Is that what
600
00:25:31.740 --> 00:25:34.460
they need? What are you doing kicking a field goal here?
601
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:38.190
My own Kansas State Wildcats, in fact, did that. And
602
00:25:38.230 --> 00:25:40.829
I just lost my mind on my buddy that works
603
00:25:40.849 --> 00:25:42.789
for the team. And he's like, tell me how you
604
00:25:42.809 --> 00:25:46.130
really feel, Cal. And I'm like, oh, I will. Because what, who's,
605
00:25:46.750 --> 00:25:48.369
he's not a coach. He's not a play caller. He
606
00:25:48.410 --> 00:25:50.019
does a lot of the other kind of stuff in
607
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:52.900
the front office. And I'm like, what was that? And
608
00:25:52.940 --> 00:25:55.220
he's like, don't worry. I will be, I'll be your
609
00:25:55.259 --> 00:25:58.460
therapist Sunday morning. Like, go ahead, let it all out.
610
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:00.359
He's like, you think any of us are happy about
611
00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:02.319
that loss? And I'm like, no, but I'm mad at
612
00:26:02.539 --> 00:26:05.450
how you lost it. If you lost it to a
613
00:26:05.470 --> 00:26:08.390
shot downfield trying to score a touchdown, it would have
614
00:26:08.410 --> 00:26:11.910
been different. But when you punt with two minutes left,
615
00:26:12.230 --> 00:26:14.309
you're surrendering the game. What are you doing?
616
00:26:15.009 --> 00:26:18.619
Yeah, Kel. I want to talk about something else. I'm
617
00:26:18.650 --> 00:26:20.559
doing a documentary right now, which you don't know about.
618
00:26:20.579 --> 00:26:21.160
I should have told them.
619
00:26:21.180 --> 00:26:23.980
So they're doing a documentary I'm involved in. And they
620
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:26.720
want to know. They asked me something that I don't
621
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.119
know the answer to. Imagine this sports betting question.
622
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:30.240
They said, Bill.
623
00:26:31.250 --> 00:26:34.390
Why do the customers bet parlays like they do at
624
00:26:34.410 --> 00:26:36.579
the rate they do? So this, they were using the
625
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:39.940
sports book. 63% of their profit came from parlays. How
626
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:42.880
do you stop them from betting parlays? I don't know
627
00:26:42.900 --> 00:26:45.599
the answer to that. So I waved the white towel
628
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:48.579
last season and try to tell people, I know you're
629
00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:50.920
going to bet them anyway. So just bet 10% of
630
00:26:50.940 --> 00:26:52.920
what you're better. 5% what you bet on a straight
631
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.190
bet on parlays. Now tell the truth. Now, Kelly in Vegas,
632
00:26:56.730 --> 00:26:58.970
are you betting a six or 18 or every week
633
00:26:59.089 --> 00:27:00.569
trying to make a I have.
634
00:27:00.549 --> 00:27:03.069
Never bet a six or eight teamer to my knowledge.
635
00:27:03.230 --> 00:27:05.890
I might have done a five teamer, like March Madness
636
00:27:05.910 --> 00:27:07.450
with like a group where we each put up like
637
00:27:07.490 --> 00:27:10.660
a best bet or something. No, I'm betting the three
638
00:27:10.700 --> 00:27:14.180
team underdog Moneyline Parlay. And then of course for On
639
00:27:14.220 --> 00:27:17.420
Tilt Show, we're doing a Monday night football, Thursday night football,
640
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:21.380
Sunday night football, same game parlay as a group. Listen, guys,
641
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.529
here's the reality. The reason why people love these parlays
642
00:27:25.609 --> 00:27:28.809
and the reason why I did start my parlay back
643
00:27:28.849 --> 00:27:30.250
in the day, crack, right? Like where I was like,
644
00:27:30.710 --> 00:27:32.769
how do I get a 35 to one, a 45
645
00:27:32.769 --> 00:27:36.089
to one, an 85 to one ticket when I like
646
00:27:36.109 --> 00:27:38.950
all three of these underdogs? Because it was fun and
647
00:27:38.990 --> 00:27:43.210
it made it something different, especially getting those crazy upsets. Now,
648
00:27:43.589 --> 00:27:47.069
everything on social media is these massive crack. This is
649
00:27:47.109 --> 00:27:48.470
where I, oh my God, I can't believe I didn't
650
00:27:48.490 --> 00:27:53.470
tell you about this. This was nuts yesterday. So Brett,
651
00:27:53.750 --> 00:27:57.769
I'm sitting at the airport in Nashville waiting for my flight.
652
00:27:57.809 --> 00:27:59.890
Of course, it's like try to get on the earlier flight,
653
00:27:59.950 --> 00:28:03.109
no room, whatever. And I didn't book the earlier flight thinking,
654
00:28:03.289 --> 00:28:05.950
all right, we're going to be hungover leaving Knoxville. I'm
655
00:28:05.990 --> 00:28:07.849
at the mercy of somebody else driving, just book the
656
00:28:07.910 --> 00:28:10.759
later flight. And of course, that didn't end up being
657
00:28:10.779 --> 00:28:14.240
the case. But Brett text me and Ariel and our
658
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.089
buddy Joe and goes, Look at this. And I was like,
659
00:28:17.369 --> 00:28:19.730
oh my God, I don't know if I want to.
660
00:28:19.829 --> 00:28:23.640
He's at Hooters with his buddies and the cash out
661
00:28:23.680 --> 00:28:27.619
button comes up. And he's like, don't cash out. $ 35,
662
00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:33.480
three team parlay to pay like $ 11, 000 or $ 12, 000. Wow.
663
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:38.640
As the game is progressing, he needed Derrick Henry two touchdowns.
664
00:28:38.809 --> 00:28:41.890
As the game is progressing, he's like panicking. And now
665
00:28:42.190 --> 00:28:45.819
the cash out was like $ 500, $ 400, $ 300. Gets a 200.
666
00:28:45.819 --> 00:28:49.140
He hits the cash out. And I go, Brett, all
667
00:28:49.180 --> 00:28:51.119
you had to do was tell Bonehead Nick. And of course,
668
00:28:51.140 --> 00:28:54.779
now I can't find the three legs that it was.
669
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:56.859
All you had to do was say, Nick, how bad
670
00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.740
do you need $ 35? You bet $ 35 on this in
671
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:05.190
hopes of what? Hitting a long shot parlay. And then
672
00:29:05.210 --> 00:29:08.009
you puss out for 200 bucks. How bad do you
673
00:29:08.029 --> 00:29:12.420
need $ 200? That's what I think is criminal. You want
674
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.099
to bet these crazy parlays. You want to hit that
675
00:29:15.299 --> 00:29:18.579
once in a lifetime home run. I don't care. have
676
00:29:18.700 --> 00:29:21.480
at it, right? If you're not spending your grandma's inheritance,
677
00:29:21.859 --> 00:29:23.660
if your kids aren't going to Hungary, you're not in
678
00:29:23.680 --> 00:29:25.319
danger of losing your home and you want to spend
679
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:30.579
200 bucks a week on crazy parlays at 10, 15, $ 35,
680
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.210
go for it. I don't care. However, you've got to
681
00:29:33.250 --> 00:29:38.269
see them through a $ 200 cash out crack. I was like,
682
00:29:38.670 --> 00:29:40.500
he did what? And he goes, can I tried to
683
00:29:40.539 --> 00:29:43.079
offer him 300 when it was 200 to let me
684
00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:44.980
own half of the parlay with him. I was going
685
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:46.319
to give him more than the cash out.
686
00:29:46.779 --> 00:29:51.599
Yeah. Yeah, the cash-out options that Sportsbook use, I know
687
00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.380
they look sometimes appetizing, but trust me, they're nowhere near
688
00:29:56.900 --> 00:29:58.079
true odds.
689
00:29:58.420 --> 00:30:00.460
Lots of times they're nowhere near fair odds.
690
00:30:00.940 --> 00:30:05.869
You're talking about making the Sportsbooks millions. So not only
691
00:30:05.890 --> 00:30:09.289
are they making millions off your parlay, they're saving millions
692
00:30:09.569 --> 00:30:12.470
because you hit the cash-out button because you panicked. Now,
693
00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.529
I would argue maybe around $ 5, $ 40, 000, $ 50, 000, $ 60, 000, I
694
00:30:15.549 --> 00:30:18.670
might be like, all right, I got to cash this out, right? Like,
695
00:30:19.289 --> 00:30:21.650
I should probably cash this out because I could go
696
00:30:22.539 --> 00:30:25.039
on a nice vacation. I could pay off some debt.
697
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:28.799
I could buy my dad a car, right? Like, crazier things.
698
00:30:29.180 --> 00:30:30.359
Right, right, right.
699
00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:33.230
$ 35 to win $ 200 and get the cash out button.
700
00:30:33.609 --> 00:30:36.559
I was like... I don't want, I'm so happy that
701
00:30:36.619 --> 00:30:38.319
I wasn't there because Nick and I would have no
702
00:30:38.339 --> 00:30:40.500
longer been friends because I would have lost all respect
703
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:40.799
for him.
704
00:30:40.940 --> 00:30:41.980
And I hate to get dark.
705
00:30:42.019 --> 00:30:44.880
It's like those insurance companies that you buy insurance and
706
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:46.920
these companies that come in because now you're dying and
707
00:30:46.940 --> 00:30:48.339
you say, let me spend some of the money now.
708
00:30:48.819 --> 00:30:48.960
Yeah.
709
00:30:48.980 --> 00:30:51.640
And you have $ 100, 000 policy. You're going to get $ 100, 000
710
00:30:51.539 --> 00:30:53.759
in a year. However, you'd like to get money now
711
00:30:53.779 --> 00:30:56.440
to enjoy your life or enjoy family. And they say, okay, well,
712
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.660
we'll give you a 50. And then now they're hoping
713
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:00.619
you die and hoping you get the other 50.
714
00:31:00.619 --> 00:31:00.799
Okay.
715
00:31:01.819 --> 00:31:04.759
They're giving you an unfair amount of money on this.
716
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.940
And that's basically what, what the sports book. Okay.
717
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:13.109
Over one and a half touchdowns plus five 50. Josh
718
00:31:13.269 --> 00:31:15.490
Allen to score two TVs over one and a half
719
00:31:15.549 --> 00:31:19.049
plus 400. Kenneth Walker over one and a half touchdowns
720
00:31:19.069 --> 00:31:22.029
plus two 40. Derek Henry over one and a half
721
00:31:22.069 --> 00:31:25.890
touchdowns plus 200. $ 35 would have paid out. $ 33, 050.
722
00:31:24.170 --> 00:31:24.450
Oh, wow.
723
00:31:24.490 --> 00:31:25.230
For $ 198 and 87 cents.
724
00:31:33.410 --> 00:31:33.769
Wow.
725
00:31:34.089 --> 00:31:34.390
Wow.
726
00:31:34.710 --> 00:31:36.650
The sports books want you doing that. They want you
727
00:31:36.690 --> 00:31:37.130
doing that.
728
00:31:37.250 --> 00:31:41.400
That's, that's my precisely my whole point. Like if you're
729
00:31:41.420 --> 00:31:43.099
going to do this, see it through.
730
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:44.619
Yeah.
731
00:31:45.099 --> 00:31:45.740
Yeah.
732
00:31:46.019 --> 00:31:51.099
Nick doesn't care about $ 200.
733
00:31:49.269 --> 00:31:51.150
Yeah, isn't that a sickness that we don't even realize
734
00:31:51.190 --> 00:31:53.730
what we're doing? We're in the moment and almost pressured
735
00:31:53.779 --> 00:31:55.240
to make a $ 165 profit.
736
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.420
You just press the button.
737
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.359
And, you know, I will always, always argue that we're
738
00:32:01.380 --> 00:32:03.440
sitting at a blackjack table. Take your profit, take your
739
00:32:03.460 --> 00:32:05.059
profit and run, take your profit and run before you
740
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:11.200
give it all back. Again, life-changing money, I understand, considering
741
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:12.160
the cash-out option.
742
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:13.069
Or.
743
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.019
what is really hard to do especially is trying to
744
00:32:16.059 --> 00:32:18.160
find a way to hedge, right? Like if it was you,
745
00:32:18.299 --> 00:32:20.960
you're in Vegas, you got a stack of cash. Let's
746
00:32:20.980 --> 00:32:22.700
say you got that third leg and it's for the
747
00:32:22.740 --> 00:32:25.519
Sunday night game. So between that last cash, you've got
748
00:32:25.539 --> 00:32:28.119
an hour and a half drive over to our friends
749
00:32:28.180 --> 00:32:30.759
at Circa and say, Derek, I need to bet 33,000
750
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:33.160
on this. And he may say, crack, I'm only going
751
00:32:33.180 --> 00:32:35.170
to give you 15. And that's what you got to take.
752
00:32:35.250 --> 00:32:36.049
And that's your hedge.
753
00:32:36.670 --> 00:32:37.910
Yeah. Yeah.
754
00:32:37.950 --> 00:32:40.009
It's still better than the damn cash out button.
755
00:32:40.609 --> 00:32:42.829
You know, you say that, you remind me what Derek does.
756
00:32:42.869 --> 00:32:45.809
Derek does something for the people on Survivor at the
757
00:32:45.849 --> 00:32:49.269
end of the year. He gives them all credit lines, right?
758
00:32:49.470 --> 00:32:52.299
He'll let you bet the other side. That's unbelievable. You've
759
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.220
got gaming to approve that and let you bet the
760
00:32:54.259 --> 00:32:56.220
other side of these bets.
761
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:56.819
Pretty cool.
762
00:32:56.859 --> 00:32:59.380
Last year, that's basically what happened to me. I should
763
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.960
have hedged. I had the Raiders minus five and a
764
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:04.319
half over the Chiefs. Chiefs had no reason to win
765
00:33:04.339 --> 00:33:08.259
that game. Backup quarterback, Raiders... eh, arguably should have wanted
766
00:33:08.299 --> 00:33:10.119
to win that game over a division rival. They didn't.
767
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:15.960
I did not hedge. And it cost me like $ 31, 000
768
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.059
in a survivor contest.
769
00:33:15.980 --> 00:33:18.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kel, I want to finish with my
770
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:20.640
responsible gambling segment. I want to show you a photo.
771
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:23.990
It's my buddy Frankie, his son Jagger. And that's us
772
00:33:24.089 --> 00:33:26.769
at Masters. We go to the Masters at Hilton Head
773
00:33:26.809 --> 00:33:30.230
every year. So Jagger just turned 19. Happy birthday, Jagger.
774
00:33:30.549 --> 00:33:31.910
But that's not why I'm saying this.
775
00:33:32.990 --> 00:33:36.450
So he texts me a lot of times on the sneak.
776
00:33:37.049 --> 00:33:39.319
And he'll ask me, you know, hey, Crack, I know
777
00:33:39.339 --> 00:33:41.319
you're doing good for dad. And, you know, I've made
778
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:43.319
his dad a ton of money over the years. But
779
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.019
I know he says, hey, what are you on this week, Crack?
780
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.279
So now I just yelled at him. I said, listen,
781
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:49.700
you are not 21 yet.
782
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:51.559
I am not giving you– I just did the same
783
00:33:51.579 --> 00:33:53.569
thing with a friend. He's like, I'm 18. I'm like,
784
00:33:53.630 --> 00:33:54.549
you are not 21.
785
00:33:54.549 --> 00:33:56.269
Yeah, no, he's not 21.
786
00:33:56.250 --> 00:33:58.589
You can text me when you're 21. Until then, leave
787
00:33:58.609 --> 00:33:59.009
me alone.
788
00:33:59.609 --> 00:34:02.720
All the kids– All the kids.
789
00:34:02.740 --> 00:34:05.119
They all want it. And his father bets, so it's
790
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.049
so acceptable, and he knows all the money I made
791
00:34:07.069 --> 00:34:09.989
his dad. So he sees this, and he's like, crack,
792
00:34:10.090 --> 00:34:12.530
I need to make some money for school, or he's
793
00:34:12.550 --> 00:34:14.590
going to college. God bless him.
794
00:34:14.949 --> 00:34:16.869
But no, absolutely not.
795
00:34:18.289 --> 00:34:21.349
I wouldn't even recommend my kids to gamble, even when
796
00:34:21.369 --> 00:34:21.969
they get older.
797
00:34:22.570 --> 00:34:24.050
I just don't want them in this space.
798
00:34:24.610 --> 00:34:26.539
It could lead to a lot of closet gambling and
799
00:34:26.579 --> 00:34:29.559
going crazy and betting behind the safety of your.
800
00:34:29.579 --> 00:34:32.750
I think really having a real conversation, I mean, Ariel's
801
00:34:32.789 --> 00:34:36.239
little brother, You know, his sister's the prop queen. Go
802
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.800
on PrizePix, Underdog, QuickPix on Splash, whatever. And he wants
803
00:34:40.820 --> 00:34:42.019
to be able to do it. And you've got a
804
00:34:42.019 --> 00:34:45.199
buddy or you've got a dad who will download the
805
00:34:45.300 --> 00:34:47.909
app for you or whatever. And you use their information.
806
00:34:48.260 --> 00:34:50.889
These kids all want to do it. I think ultimately
807
00:34:50.989 --> 00:34:52.510
they're going to and they're going to have to learn
808
00:34:52.530 --> 00:34:55.820
the hard way. But there has to be. There has
809
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.320
to be some personal accountability too.
810
00:34:57.340 --> 00:34:57.960
There has to be.
811
00:34:58.019 --> 00:35:00.340
The parents have to. Jagger's dad has to talk to
812
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:01.380
him and say, listen, son.
813
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:02.360
He does.
814
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:03.340
Okay, good.
815
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:05.119
Because I think that's really what– I mean, that's why
816
00:35:05.139 --> 00:35:07.400
I texted my friend, Nicole. I was like, you're an 18-year-old.
817
00:35:07.460 --> 00:35:08.980
I know he's in college this year, but he is
818
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:10.699
asking me for sports betting picks. I was like, I
819
00:35:10.739 --> 00:35:11.320
told him no.
820
00:35:11.929 --> 00:35:12.250
Good.
821
00:35:12.309 --> 00:35:12.929
Good for you.
822
00:35:13.130 --> 00:35:14.789
But, you know, he texted me the other day. They
823
00:35:14.809 --> 00:35:17.329
went to the game in the swamp, Florida, and I
824
00:35:17.369 --> 00:35:19.679
go up. I was like, I like Florida. I was
825
00:35:19.699 --> 00:35:21.860
like minus four. I was like, I probably wouldn't late
826
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:23.800
at this point. I was like, but I don't trust
827
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.880
Ole Miss. They're the number one bet team at almost
828
00:35:26.019 --> 00:35:29.199
every single sports book. I go, ideally Florida rolls for you.
829
00:35:29.570 --> 00:35:31.110
And that was it. Do I know if he bet
830
00:35:31.130 --> 00:35:35.210
the game? Probably not. But if you want my honest,
831
00:35:35.289 --> 00:35:37.949
like synopsis of the game, I can give that to you.
832
00:35:37.969 --> 00:35:40.340
But if I know that you're doing something nefarious and
833
00:35:40.409 --> 00:35:42.460
I'm friends with your parent, which is really crazy to
834
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:46.590
think that I have friends with like adult children. It
835
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:50.260
is like, no, not, I'm not being associated with this.
836
00:35:51.019 --> 00:35:53.019
Yeah, no, that's great. I'm glad we closed with that.
837
00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:56.460
And I want to tell everyone, I appreciate you guys like,
838
00:35:56.500 --> 00:35:59.280
and subscribe and you guys joining me. I've been saying
839
00:35:59.300 --> 00:36:02.210
it all year and, and the football season is here.
840
00:36:02.590 --> 00:36:04.650
Get on for their season package with these props.
841
00:36:05.769 --> 00:36:06.230
Absolutely.
842
00:36:06.269 --> 00:36:09.469
Destroying your man, destroying the sports books out there. And
843
00:36:09.650 --> 00:36:12.110
we're going to continue. Thank you very much. Thank you
844
00:36:12.139 --> 00:36:14.090
to you, Kel, for your time. And we'll see you
845
00:36:14.130 --> 00:36:16.449
guys next week on KIV and Kraken.
846
00:36:16.889 --> 00:36:18.110
Usually you close it like that.
847
00:36:18.170 --> 00:36:18.530
Yeah.
848
00:36:18.550 --> 00:36:21.289
No, it was a perfect close. Kraken did a great job.
849
00:36:21.329 --> 00:36:23.510
Shout out to all of you guys hanging out with
850
00:36:23.530 --> 00:36:26.389
us every single Monday. Good luck for Monday Night Football.
851
00:36:26.730 --> 00:36:28.989
I do not have an opinion, Kraken. I'm guessing you
852
00:36:29.030 --> 00:36:29.550
do not either.
853
00:36:29.630 --> 00:36:29.789
No.
854
00:36:29.809 --> 00:36:32.300
There's a prop up on Wager Talk. That's about it.
855
00:36:32.530 --> 00:36:32.949
Perfect.
856
00:36:33.539 --> 00:36:33.840
Awesome.
857
00:36:33.900 --> 00:36:36.519
Have a great week, guys. And we'll be back next Monday.