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What's the most uh challenging part of creating content?
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Uh ooh, social media content for sure is there's no off-season.
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There's no off-season.
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So like you gotta keep the algorithm going.
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You gotta chase the algorithm.
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That's the unfortunate part of it.
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And if you don't love it enough or be hungry enough for the finance part of it, I'll do it for both.
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I love this.
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So I stopped worrying about the views and started worrying about me and whether I enjoy the piece of content I'm I dropped.
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What what was the um story or the thing you was gonna say?
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You want me to save it now or you say it?
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It's a quick one.
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No, yeah.
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Uh I was gonna save it.
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We go rolling.
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We rolling that way.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Y'all ain't playing around.
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Oh, no, we ain't messing around.
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Okay.
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Uh man.
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So look, real quick, I got a relationship with all three of y'all, man.
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Yeah.
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I've known y'all.
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And um, I started doing comedy, man.
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My first day, uh, London was there.
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Wow.
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You know what I'm saying?
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He was there, man.
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This is at the comedy union, man.
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My first bomb.
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Oh, snap.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Might have been mine, sure.
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That's the that's the home spot.
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That's the home spot.
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That's where I started at, man.
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And I remember being in the back, like working on my and I was, you know, I'm looking at my phone and shit, and you're doing the same thing.
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And we just talked.
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I'm shopping it up.
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I don't know nobody here.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I don't know nobody.
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My auntie told me to come down to the comedy union, and she's like, they got Monday.
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They got like uh they got Monday, like uh open mic Mondays.
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I was like, okay, cool.
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I'm going down and then the day I decided to do it, like the third trip, and I came out there with my little, my little, my actually I didn't have my phone.
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I had my phone, but I had like a little the composition books, the black and white little had that one folded, you know what I mean?
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We old everybody.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Writing with a pen.
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Yeah, writing with a pen.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah.
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And uh that used to be how you used to get girls' phone numbers back in the day, too.
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What's your number?
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Do y'all remember uh the Macy's?
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Obviously, they still got it right now.
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Like you get the clone, the perfume little stand up at the uh Blooming Dills or whatever.
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Yeah, I used to take one of them, and it's always a baddie behind there, spraying you down, you know, spraying you with the So I used to take the little, the little uh let me get your pen real quick.
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And I'm she thinking I'm about to use the pen for something else.
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Take the pen and then take one of the little uh perfume things that you spray and get a number that way.
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Yeah, that's back in the day.
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That's what my own.
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That's almost the perfect size for a phone number.
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Right, right, right.
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This is a folded and but nah, uh, real quick, I was saying the story.
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We were talking about like this uh just promoting the homies and like supporting your boys.
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And and you were saying how Rick Ross had uh you saw a clip of him talking about how he you're supposed to promote your homies like they're yours.
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I mean, like like whatever you're promoting is yours.
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Absolutely.
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Promote your homeboy stuff like it's your stuff.
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Exactly, exactly.
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And so, and here's the thing, bro.
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I've known you since I started comedy, so 15 years, and we don't talk often.
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And we didn't even back then, when I when we knew each other uh consistently, like on a weekly basis, we was in the clubs every damn night.
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Um I got a call from a random woman.
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Her name is Gia Taylor.
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Shout out to Gia.
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And she was like, Hey, how you doing?
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My name is Gia Taylor, and this is I'm talking about this over a decade ago.
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She was like, and um uh I I got referred to you from Justin Hires to shoot my short film, and I would like to know, sit down and talk to you about your race and all that.
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I was broke as hell back then.
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I'm talking about this is this is over 10 years ago.
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Wow, you know, this before the big job push, this is before I don't think any of us was really cracking like that.
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Yeah, right, right, right.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Um and I was like, man, and we knew each other, but we wasn't everyday homies.
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Right.
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But like I was like, it was I was so surprised that she and she was a paying customer.
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He was one of the first people that put money in my pocket, bruh.
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Wow.
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You know what I mean?
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And and we see each other in the clubs all the time.
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We there every other night, if not every night.
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Right.
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And it's love, you know, it's just camaraderie amongst coming comedians.
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Yeah.
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And we get we giving each other tags and you getting off stage.
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I remember you was like one time, hey bro, you make me nervous with that toothpick in your mouth.
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No, no, no.
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I used to always have toothpick.
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I always do be on set, doing my set with a toothpick in my mouth.
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I was used to it.
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He was like, man, I just I mean, hope you don't choke.
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I was like, okay, notes.
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That was funny, man, but that's my note tonight.
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But like that's me.
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That's it.
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Yeah.
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And so it just showed me even back then that you are the type of brother that would like, hey bro, you need so you need a DP, you need a cinematographer, a cameraman.
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I know somebody that because I at that time I was pushing myself.
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Like, um, I'm telling everybody, all the comedians, all the little actors that I know, hey bro, I'm shooting everybody's content.
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You need me to shoot that content.
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Yeah.
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And um, I and I don't think I even told you that, but you knew I was doing it because I was trying to spread the word.
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Yeah.
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And so just that let me know, like, every time I think of you, bro, I think of that time.
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That's over a decade ago, bro.
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I almost cried just now.
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I know, don't do it, man.
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Because I'm an empath.
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I'll start crying too.
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On some real man, I I learned a long time ago, man, to just be a good person.
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Yeah.
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Uh, and not do good.
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And I learned this in like college.
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It was like either Socrates or Aristotle.
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It was like basically like the art of just doing good for good sake.
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Right.
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And, you know, if you get something in return, cool, but everybody should strive to just be a good person just because it's the right thing to do.
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Right.
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You know, and so man, I obviously seen that you were somebody that I that was putting in the work on your grind, and and I must have thought very highly of you to be like, yo, hit him out.
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Yeah, hit him up.
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So that's what's up, bro.
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I appreciate you sharing that story.
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Go ahead and go in the world.
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We're here, man.
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Hey.
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Welcome to another episode of Kill It It Man.
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Uh, I'm very, very excited today.
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I'm one of your hosts.
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My name is B.T.
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Kingsley.
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London Brown.
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Justin Hyas.
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And man, it's gonna be a good day.
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Uh friend in the house, man, but extremely accomplished.
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You know him, you love him all over all your socials.
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One of the most uh one of the founding members of our class of pushing everything forward of independence, lesbian homie, whole crew stupid.
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It's too man, we getting into it today.
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But dog here, man.
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Big job! Put a man to the man.
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Hey, I appreciate y'all, man.
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Thank y'all for having me here.
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This is dope.
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I'm excited.
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I promise you, man.
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I'm like, man, this is and we we shared it earlier about like I got uh a relationship with all you guys, even if you don't talk on a regular basis.
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I got you, I still got your number on my phone.
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And and I'm talking about like since the first time we met.
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Remind me, I need to change that.
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Not for you, but for TV.
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Hey, sometimes I get I get calls too randomly.
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Hey, what's up, man?
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Remember me?
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You gotta say that, bro.
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Come on.
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That's a telltale song.
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I listen to my voice, though.
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Y'all, did y'all listen to that?
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What I said, y'all?
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Oh my god, that was hilarious.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, somebody's yeah, but anyways.
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Nah, man.
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Uh I'm glad to be here, man.
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It's dope.
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And uh I I've been watching y'all over the years.
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You know how uh like I was saying earlier, man.
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My first day on stage, uh, London was there.
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And I don't know if he remembers that, but this I'm talking, I'm talking about 15 years ago.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And uh, and so like I remember those type of things.
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I'm a person, I'm a journey guy.
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So I look at my journey and I look at all the people that were a part of that.
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Right.
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Like if I ever did a biopic, not saying I ever would, but if I ever would if I ever get to the point where a biopic is necessary, I'm sure certain people and and are gonna be in that.
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And even like I say, we don't we don't speak all the time, but uh I remember.
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I got my memory is pretty solid, man.
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I remember all the things, all the like the stepping stones, all the hard hurdles, all the bumps and bruises I done took, and I and I remember that.
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So, and uh nah, this this journey that I'm on right now, man, is it's fun, and y'all are a part of that, man.
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Oh man, I appreciate that, man.
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We couldn't have had you at a more perfect time, because one of the things that has come up consistently on this pod for uh all the people that we have talked to is this doing it on your own thing.
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Um and right next to that, one of the things I've been screaming is narrative, which you you number one as far as I'm concerned.
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Like, um, because not many people are doing it at the level that you're doing it at.
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Uh, we have to talk independence.
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I don't care if we talk about this the whole time, baby.
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Because getting into the the thick of it, your journey.
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I remember stand up.
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I remember when you went into film school, how did you get to this place of independence and why was it so important to you?
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Rejection.
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Rejection.
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And and and not in a bad way either, because I'm a I'm a former athlete, man, so rejection is is is is very common.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Even rejection could just get a stiff arm on the field.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So rejection is like you on the bench and you watching somebody play over you.
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And you and so I've I've I've I've taken I take rejection and I use it as fuel, uh-huh, you know what I'm saying?
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And um and so it is uh rejection is necessary.
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That's how you build that's how you build, you know what I'm saying, resilience um and just and stick with it in this.
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So yeah, that's how I got it.
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I but that's my first thought is rejection.
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But uh, because I was, you know, we've been doing this for a long time.
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And um it's crazy, man.
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I I remember uh seeing each of us on stage at some point, right?
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You know what I'm saying, going through um the stuff that we go through, like our bitch and stuff like that, and and I see it.
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Uh even with the key and peel energy you I watched, and and I was like, I remember I remember that energy on stage, you know what I'm saying?
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And especially you with everything that impressions, man, this high energy, this the and so the scene where you at is is fire, it's inspiring.
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And watching, man, I I got I got stories for the days, bro.
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Even before I was doing comedy, bruh.
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Uh shout out to my friend brother Nate Jackson, my brother, man.
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Hey, Nate.
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Uh yeah, um, he invited me to a comedy, uh, one of his comedy shows in 2008.
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Wow.
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Yeah, and um, and he was there, come out, bro.
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And he was way out in IE.
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And then for the niggas from LA, that's a that's Japan.
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Right, Japan.
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So yeah, yeah.
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We I go out there uh one of the homes.
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Like an overnight band.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Atlas, you know what I'm saying?
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Thomas God and the Map Quest and all that, you know what I mean?
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But we get out there and uh I think the first person on stage was you, either you or Clayton.
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Wow.
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Oh wow, yeah.
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That's like he got a shirt that says Big School Energy, which is one of his big yeah, and I need to get one of those matter of fact.
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Gotcha.
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Um, and uh you had a shirt 15 years, 16 years ago saying partake in my cross watch.
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Yeah, so BT been at this half his life, yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Promoting himself, promoting his his gift.
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And I remember that, and I wasn't even in a comic yet.
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I went through this as a consumer.
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And I'm watching, I'm like, oh, this is it's just great.
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I gotta I gotta get up there.
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I gotta get up there.
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You, CT was there, Ida Rodriguez was there.
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Uh I remember this.
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Yeah, yeah, this is improv, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And so that's before I met you.
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And and literally weeks later, I met you.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah, first.
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But I didn't know his thing, his thing.
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I didn't even meet him yet.
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I knew what I saw on stage.
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He actually talked the first day I was.
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You from LA?
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Okay.
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Well, hey, put a couple shit in the same way.
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He said he was gonna do it then.
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Yeah, he never did.
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But he did a slick because I didn't notice either.
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I didn't notice either.
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I looked over there and thought I was working on mushrooms.
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Well, I want to know like what part of LA you from and what was your childhood like?
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Oh man, 94th of Vermont, man.
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West Side.
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So yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Uh grew up over there, but I moved around uh often, so from there I was uh 94th.
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We go get into it.
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Trust me.
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No, no, no, no.
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I went to 42nd Elementary, and um, uh, so that's in the 40s, and then um we moved from there to 94th of Vermont, which is across the city.
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You know what I'm saying?
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And uh then I went to Audubon, and these are schools y'all probably don't know, but he does for sure.
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You know, um then uh I went to Bret Hart, I got kicked out of there.
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I went there too?
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I went to Bret Hart.
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Yeah, because I'm I lived on 91st and Fig, so we right over the right across.
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We right there for sure in the 90s, man.
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And so I went I uh I kicked out kicked out of there, and I went to uh John Meere and then uh Arthur Slauson and then uh and I didn't work out too good either, man.
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My mom sent me to my pops.
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So I my mom sent me to my daddy.
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It didn't work out because you wasn't good in school or what was the running around with the wrong folks, man.
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Uh it's easy to get distracted, you know what I'm saying?
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Like any inner city, you from Florida, right?
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Yeah, Florida, same thing.
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So like, yeah, so and and Texas and Sack, yeah.
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So if you and I'm in the middle of it, you know what I'm saying?
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So like I say, I gotta drive, I gotta go 50 blocks just to get to my middle school or elementary school from where I live.
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So you in a like if you're not if you're not born in it or inherited it into the gang and gang culture, and you it's hard to navigate around it if even if you're not from it, you know what I'm saying?
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So uh just being this, you know, you got homies that you grow up, we we kids, we seven, eight years old, and then every everything's innocent.
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Then as you get to nine, ten, eleven, twelve, and then some of the homies start drifting off, and next you know, the summer come back, they from the hood.
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And this homie from that hood, this homie from that hood, they moved over there now, so now they from over there, and now they enemies, so it's about to say, what happens?
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Well, you just when your mama just moved, like, this ain't my far.
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I love the deer.
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Oh yeah.
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Mom, you moved me into enemy territory.
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Absolutely.
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And have you and have when did when did this hike thing, when did this because I'm I'm from what you're saying, I'm trying to figure out at what point did you start to look like um as opposed to being one of the members of the gang, you look like the gang leader.
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Like when did this this height and all of this?
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Did that play any part?
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Or you just that just the sprout happened later and it was just No, I was always a big dude.
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I was always like 10 years old looking 13.
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Okay.
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You only 10.
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So like I was always like the kid that all the big homies wanted to to like recruit as like a little youngster.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You know your little YG or something like that.
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And I was never, I my pops, I was afraid of my pops, man.
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So like I was always outside.
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I was always doing just enough to like, all right, this is where I'm gonna draw the line.
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I'm gonna stop that.
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I'm not going, I'm not hopping in the whip with these niggas.
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I'm gonna go home.
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And it got to it got to the point where some of the homies was like, bro, you can some of the older niggas was like, bro, go in the house.
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Nigga, we finna get into some dumb shit.
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They knew I was a kid on the on the block that mom was going to church.
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A lot of the homies was raised by their grannies.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So, and you know, when you raised by your grandma, sometimes you you get instilled that good home, home good training, uh, home training, uh, what's what's the word?
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What's the phrase?
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Uh good home training.
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Yeah, good home training, yeah.
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Uh or you you just kind of um getting raised by somebody that's on auto autopilot.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Your grandma or grandfather just kind of like doing the best they can to keep you fed and all that, but like a lot of those kids just running the streets.
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Right.
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And I was a kid that my mom we went to church every Sunday.
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So I'm coming home on Sundays with my little fit on, and I gotta take that off and throw on the jeans and the sweats and go outside and play.
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But I was I was always the I was the good kid on the block that had a that went home and it was like it wasn't no chaos.
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Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
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But outside was so you was never like a bully or ever used to I used to bully the bullies, bro.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I used to people don't believe, I used to do the same shit.
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I used to bully the bullies.
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Bully the bullies, yeah.
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I have I seen like I don't remember uh I went to Audubon and we they had Scrub Day.
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And like back in the days, you scrub, you be in seventh grade and then you're a scrub.
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I mean you you know that's like being a freshman in high school, but it's middle school.
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And they're gonna you just gonna get mopped.
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You're gonna get beat up just because you a youngster and you young and you the newest kids, the newest road kids.
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And I didn't they didn't think I was a seventh grader because I was so big.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So the homies is over there getting slammed into in trash cans and stuff.
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I'm talking about they'll take you and dump you in the trash can.
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For sure.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I've seen that.
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Yeah, and and and and so you try to fight back, they gonna jump you.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So I was the one that was always protecting the homies and and just taking the fave form.
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You know what I'm saying?
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But I was I was a goofball even back then.
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So I was good in sports, I was a big kid.
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They didn't know I was young like them.
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They thinking I'm like a transfer, that's the eighth grader, ninth grader.
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By the time I got to high school, I moved to San Diego.
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Okay.
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So yeah, but I was I was never a bully, man.
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That was never my thing, man.
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I I'm uh I've been the same way my whole life.
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Even the homies who knew me when I was seven, they see what I'm doing now.
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I looked, I looked the way I look, but I've always been funny, I've always been silly.
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Right.
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It makes sense that I started doing comedy, you know what I'm saying?
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So, but I've always was with the shit too, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, and it I'd rather not be, I'd rather just be just hang out by the by the by the monkey bars and pitch booty cheeks, you know what I'm saying?
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And play with the girls.
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But if you if he trying to squabble on with that too, right?
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Yeah.
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You and you and uh Craig were like uh my LA uh Craig Smith.
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He be only doing first names.
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We like, who you talking about?
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Yeah, for sure, for sure.
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Yeah, you and Craig Smith was like my uh my LA compass of like you know who's, what's and where's.
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It was like bro, I remember you told me, he was like, bro, I don't care how fine she is, don't you get your ass on that one ten to go see her.
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Nah.
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He said if she can't come to the valley, then it ain't worth it, bro.
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Nah, you don't know if you don't know where you're going, bro.
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It's it's it can be a problem.
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Unfortunately, man, that's how it is, man.
00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:47.039
But it it's yeah, yeah.
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So that's that's I feel like, and that's kind of why I wanna but what's life without risk?
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Yeah, do boot it?
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I'm going.
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You will decide is she worth it?
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Yeah.
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So you sort of ask the question, where you stay at?
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What corner?
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No, I'm not not on that corner, I'm on the other block.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Do I know somebody over there?
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Do I know somebody over there?
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Yeah, you guys are.
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It can even be like, you it don't even gotta be a big, strong dude.
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This could be it could be like, let me call somebody just somebody little cousin.
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Somebody usually gotta be a dude.
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And if he and he gotta be somewhat of a man of respect over there too, because I didn't been in the Jays, I done been over there with my homeboy's little cousin, and they be like, Ricky, Ricky a bitch, blood.
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They jump on the just because they didn't like him.
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Right.
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So we was like, you know, over there.
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No, we know Ricky.
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Ricky who?
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Ricky Dawson.
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Ricky already, that nigga's a bitch.
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And they got a bonus.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Damn.
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And he'd be like, bro, what you been doing over here, man?
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You can't even use you to vouch.
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Everybody, stop what you're doing right now.
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Make sure you subscribe to Killin the Pie.
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Boom.
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What's your uh favorite childhood memory?
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Ooh.
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Favorite?
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Um man.
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That's so many.
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That's a crazy.
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You asked that question to somebody before?
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Uh not that particular one, but they're all kind of in that zone.
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That's a great question.
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But damn, man, that's that'll have a nigga start getting tear.
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I didn't already have a big thing.
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Um we're killing it, brother.
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Yeah, yeah, true.
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Man, it's so many.
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I do have a lot of them, bro, even through the turmoil.
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And I got a lot of great memories as a kid, as a child.
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But uh probably the one that stands up.
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I will say this.
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Uh, one of the things that shaped me, probably as a filmmaker, is uh being from LA, being from the hood.
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We didn't I I I didn't even know where Burbank was until uh I heard Sydney had a had a joke.
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Wow from Texas, but he moved out here to do comedy and act, and I'm watching him do a joke about being living in Burbank, and I'm like, what part of what I'm I'm grown.
00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:51.359
I'm about to say you're in your 20s at this point.
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My 20s.
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That is hilarious.
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Yeah, but I'm from LA.
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That's where I live.
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Burbank.
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Yeah, that's where we are now.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Just to cut in, like everybody's from here.
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Like, Burbank is like I said, that's new.
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If not necessarily for me, because I sometimes would have like the audition and the actor side of that early on, but all the comedians, that's like I realized even with him, like, that's the hub for y'all coming in.
00:20:16.799 --> 00:20:17.279
It's Burbank.
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But we don't think Burbank is not in the normal route.
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North Hollywood, North Hollywood, Burbank.
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Yeah, you I heard of Hollywood, and that's where I'm going with it.
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We used to, my mom used to take us to a movie theater up here, and it was like two dollar movies or something like that.
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So we would drive all the way up, take Western and passage.
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It did feel like all the way up, too.
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All the way up.
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Yeah, now it's like no traffic.
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Look at it in like half an hour.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It's still a little push, but it ain't like crazy.
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To me, it felt like a couple hours.
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I'm in the back seat of my mom's car because I'm the youngest, so I'm on the back seat of my sister in the front.
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Right.
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And she's taking us to the movies, and we and she, we didn't make burritos and stuff, tin foil.
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I'm getting fig newtons.
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That's what I used to love back in the day.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Licorice, rare vines, and then we go to the movie theater, and that's that was my that was Hollywood for us.
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And it was in Hollywood, and that was uh that was like getting out the hood for us, and that was the best thing in life, man.
00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:22.079
Yeah, and so I was like, man, I used to see the uh Avenue of the Stars, and then see the uh Hollywood, the stars on Hollywood, and I was like, damn, I didn't even recognize that until I got older, and I realized I remembered that.
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Oh, I've been here before.
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Right.
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And I was 10.
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Yeah, but I didn't know, you know what I'm saying?
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So that I didn't even know this uh in LA, you can it could be a spot 20 minutes away and you never know it existed.
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Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
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Because everything we had was right then and there.
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We didn't get on the freeway that much.
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This time me, me and my mom and my sister, we didn't have a car.
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Wow.
00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:42.240
So we on the RTD, you know what I'm saying?
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With groceries from Food for Less, you know what I'm saying?
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So that's so that's my memories growing up, and even though that was tough, and uh sometimes we come to the crib, we come home, and the house is ransacked.
00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:52.880
You know what I'm saying?
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So like, but I remember we we was together and it but and also the kind of even even in my com my comedy now and and and and And stuff I talk about now, I make fun of it.
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I kind of make light of it.
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Not light of it as as as if it doesn't matter, but like, you know, you laugh through the pain.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So and uh and being from LA is a is a specific place.
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Like people from here understand what I mean when I say RTD.
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And when I say you you pass up your your transfer uh transfer stop because niggas on the block waiting for niggas to hop off and start and start getting on them.
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You know what I'm saying?
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You 10, but you look 15, you look 14, they're gonna think you in high school with them.
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Nah, bro, I'll go to 42nd.
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Uh I got a library library car.
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That's all I had in my wallet.
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Right.
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In the in the bus mask.
00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:44.960
And then also, too, I think people don't realize now that gang culture in LA, like now people, you can't tell if they're rappers, it's it's a different thing.
00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:53.759
But back in the day, that boys in the hood, missing society, khakis, and just yeah, you gotta miss a stop, man, just to be just to be safe, man.
00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:59.599
But it's dope that you're able to incorporate um some of those early childhood things into your material.
00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:02.400
Do you also incorporate that into your your filmmaking?
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:02.960
Oh, yeah.
00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:06.319
Yeah, that's what uh production companies call Dirty Chucks Entertainment.
00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.400
I was walking, I was walking, I mean walking my whole life, bruh.
00:23:10.480 --> 00:23:10.640
Yeah.
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And sometimes it's safer just to walk because you just move it, you waiting for the bus.
00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:16.720
And so you just sitting, you're sitting duck.
00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:18.559
You missed the bus, that's the worst thing you can do.
00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:21.839
You're 12 years old, 13, and you missed the bus.
00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:23.359
Now you're just sitting there for 15 minutes.
00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:24.799
15 minutes is too long.
00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:28.720
They ain't had time to pass by, go in the store, see you, start to walk in.
00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:29.839
Why are you over here?
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:30.640
Yeah.
00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:43.200
When you see the dude, somebody ride on the bike, one dude ride on the bike, and he's looking at you, and then you see him two minutes later, riding around again with FOMO dudes on the bikes, and you okay, they they were working, they working their way up to come over here.
00:23:43.279 --> 00:23:43.440
Yeah.
00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:44.319
Where the bus at.
00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:47.680
So now you're looking down the street, maybe to start walking.
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:53.599
But yeah, so one of my fondest memories is like getting being able to get out the hood and watch a movie.
00:23:53.839 --> 00:23:58.799
And um watch, um, and then I remember there was no movie theaters right there uh before Magic Johnson.
00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.119
I remember I remember before there was a Magic Johnson Theater.
00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:01.519
Wow.
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:02.319
You know what I'm saying?
00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:05.039
And there was a movie theater in Hawthorne.
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:05.599
Yep.
00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:08.319
Yeah, Demolition Man was the last movie I watched there.
00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:09.839
Yes, dog.
00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:14.319
Fun fact, the showrunner uh McGyver wrote Demolition Man.
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:14.640
Fact.
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:16.160
Yeah, Peter Mancall.
00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:16.799
Yeah, yeah.
00:24:17.119 --> 00:24:17.599
That's fire.
00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:19.680
Yeah.
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:27.119
So So, so when you uh we talked about your uh elementary high school, what film school did you go to and when was this?
00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:27.759
I went to Cal.
00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:28.880
I went to UC Berkeley.
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:32.640
I went there to play football and to study film there.
00:24:32.799 --> 00:24:34.240
So that's where I went.
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.000
Um back in high school.
00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:38.160
I uh I was I didn't even know what I wanted to do yet.
00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:39.839
I'm thinking I'm going to the league.
00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:42.319
So uh that was my focus, football.
00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:52.000
So when I went to Cal, I was I was a recruited uh walk-on to Berkeley because I wanted to stay in the city, I wanted to stay in the in the in the state and play against all the dudes that I went to high school.
00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:52.720
You know what I'm saying?
00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:53.839
That's kind of how you do.
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:55.039
Um you stay local.
00:24:55.200 --> 00:25:05.440
And um, and uh in the and I would look at the majors, cinematography was my major, and uh I was gonna go go in the league, play 10 years, retire, and then become a filmmaker.
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:06.240
That was the goal.
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:06.720
Right.
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:07.920
Uh didn't get to the league.
00:25:08.720 --> 00:25:09.839
So I got time now, yeah.
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:10.559
Yeah, I got time.
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:11.759
I gotta figure it out, I gotta figure it out.
00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:14.000
What happened why you didn't get to the league?
00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.279
Man, I was I was good, but when you get to college, everybody good.
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.640
And then you gotta fight, and I was I wasn't focused.
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:27.359
Uh I was good, I was good enough to be there, but I wasn't good enough to just guarantee a starting spot.
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:28.000
You know what I'm saying?
00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:29.519
So you gotta work for that.
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:30.079
You know what I mean?
00:25:30.319 --> 00:25:35.119
And this time sweet, shout out to my boy Tosh Lupoy, who was a uh a recruit after me.
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:37.440
He came in the year after me and he ended up playing over me.
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.240
You know, but before that I got there, it was Andre Carter.
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:41.599
Andre Carter and Tully Banner came.
00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:42.640
These dudes that was already there.
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.119
She's and these days both them dudes got drafted.
00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:46.880
Both dudes, you know what I'm saying, went to the league.
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:47.599
You know what I'm saying?
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:49.359
And so you get shuffled up.
00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:52.160
If you ain't focused, and I don't think I was as focused as I should have been.
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:53.039
And I was young too.
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:56.799
I was 17, big as hell, strong looking, but I was still this 17.
00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:01.039
And I don't think the the uh I was focused school-wise.
00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:12.640
And like I mean, I took care of business, I graduated and all that, but but to navigate that and go to film, extra film, when you get to college, they they they they care about school, but uh they care about you playing first and foremost.
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:18.880
So if you want the guys that that are needed on the field, you gotta come in there for that extra film, you gotta make sure you're there.
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:23.200
And uh I'm I'm I think I I missed three days of school my first year.
00:26:23.359 --> 00:26:25.279
My first year in college, I didn't only miss three days of school.
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:26.559
That's how focused I was.
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.599
And then um then I realized, oh, I'm not one of the guys.
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.079
I'm not one of the guys they have to have on the field.
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.160
So they're not paying as much attention to me.
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:35.200
And I'm not used to that.
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:38.960
I was in I was in high school thinking, oh yeah, I'm I'm one of them dudes.
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:40.000
I'll I'll play both ways.
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:40.880
I'd never get off the field.
00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:41.039
Right.
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:43.599
I get to college, I can't even get on the field.
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:47.279
So my my career in college, I was on the bench, basically, you know what I'm saying?
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:55.119
So behind playing behind guys that I could have possibly been better than had I had I put the more of the effort in, but this dude, niggas, them niggas was nice.
00:26:55.440 --> 00:27:01.119
And then, but you went to so after you graduate, you come here, you're doing comedy, and then you go back to film school again.
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:02.960
I went back to film school 10 years later.
00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.599
Just to see, because I had been out to groove out the groove.
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:07.920
After college, man, I was I'm still trying to make the league.
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:11.920
So I'm playing football, I'm playing ball in Texas, and I'm playing arena ball and stuff like that.
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.480
I'm trying to, I'm trying to get to where the homies is at too.
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:16.400
I got homies in the league, so I'm trying to get there too.
00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:19.599
Just trying to at least I said, Let's let's give me one season in the league.
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.640
And I'll I'll I I that's the pinnacle, and then I'll just go.
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:23.519
Check it off your list.
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:24.240
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:25.119
Never got there.
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:31.680
And um, I got some of the homies from my my arena ball team that end up getting to the league and playing, you know what I'm saying?
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:33.200
And so it was possible.
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:38.799
So it was a dream of mine still, but after a while, I was like, okay, my this the turf is messing my knees up.
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:41.440
Let me and and it's just not gonna happen for me.
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.960
And or it it'll happen if I keep pushing, but how long?
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:45.839
How long you gonna?
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.799
I know guys was pushing, they got wife and kids, they still trying to make the league.
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:49.680
I'm like, bro, come on.
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:52.079
But you know, but I can't tell them that.
00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:53.200
I'm not I'm a dreamer, man.
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:54.079
My pops is a dreamer.
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:55.680
I can't tell somebody, hey man, give it up.
00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.799
I I I just kinda I don't have that in me, to tell somebody that.
00:27:58.960 --> 00:27:59.519
You know what I'm saying?
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:06.160
Because I seen I seen dreams come true, I seen goals we get reached, even if it didn't even if it took you all this time.
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:06.640
Right.
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.200
So in between those 10 years, when did you start stand up?
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:19.359
Uh in 2000, technically 2007, I was in the bay, and um I didn't know nobody but athletes.
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:20.480
I was trying to find some comics.
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:21.279
I didn't know nobody.
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:26.240
I had a homeboy that worked out at the gym that I worked at, and he was like, My boy's a comic.
00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:29.920
And then I finally reached out to him, he was like, hey man, they closed the club in Oakland.
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:31.359
I'm I'm moving back to Sack.
00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:32.559
I was like, oh shit, okay.
00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:34.960
So I'm looking around for comics.
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:39.599
Uh so uh in 07, I started going to the spot called the brainwash.
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:40.480
It's in Frisco.
00:28:40.559 --> 00:28:40.880
Yep.
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:47.599
It's a uh like a little it's like a laundromat slash cafe, uh, a coffee shop, slash like comedy show.
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:48.799
They had like a little stage in the corner.
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:52.799
That's good because if you spill coffee on your clothes, you could just put it in the boom.
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:54.400
I should sit there and laugh.
00:28:54.799 --> 00:29:00.799
So look, comedians was going there washing their clothes, and while their clothes was drying, they in there on stage.
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:01.200
Wow.
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:02.160
You know what I'm saying?
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:06.880
And and and I started there, bombed, uh, had a sidekick back in the day.
00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:07.759
Remember psychics?
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:08.000
Yeah.
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:10.400
I pulled my sidekick out.
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:16.480
And I know and uh unless you're Deion Cole or somebody else, you can't pull no notes out while you know what I'm saying.
00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:21.440
And uh I pulled my yeah, so I bombed, but I had my last joke made some niggas in the back laugh.
00:29:21.599 --> 00:29:22.799
And I was like, okay, cool.
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:23.759
I got something.
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.680
But I didn't really, but like I said, my two of my homeboys pulled up on me.
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:34.240
They went to the show, and um I didn't really have no, I didn't have any culture of comedy around me at the time.
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:35.680
I didn't have anybody I knew.
00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:40.160
And um my client when I was a I was a personal trainer back in the day when I was a safe.
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:46.400
My client knew I was funny, I'm cracking jokes on at the at the uh the 24-hour fitness in Richmond, California, no top mall.
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:48.160
You stayed in the city.
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:49.759
I'm making everybody play with the niggas.
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:50.799
Isn't it Richmond?
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:51.839
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:53.039
Oh yeah, I can't get enough.
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:56.319
Richmond is dirty rich, man.
00:29:57.119 --> 00:29:58.000
Super active.
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:05.119
But um, my client uh gave me some tickets to like a comedy show in Jack London Square in Oakland.
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:12.960
And uh I went down there still just as a consumer at the time, and I was like, my first comedy show I've ever been to, I think, was that.
00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:14.960
Um, and it was Nima Williams.
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:15.599
Oh, wow.
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:17.839
Yeah, Nemo from the Bay, yeah.
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.480
Yeah, uh, and uh that opened up for him was a young brother named DC Urban.
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:24.640
Young Brother D.
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:33.279
And that's how they that's how they introduced him to him, introduced him to the uh to the stage, like this young dude from uh uh I want to say he said he's from Vale, yeah.
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:34.000
Valley Joe.
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:40.000
Yeah, he was like Valeo, California young brother, just been doing comedy uh recently, man, hilarious, and he got it got up there and did his thing.
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:41.119
He was always funny.
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:43.920
When he first moved out here, he was killing.
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:44.720
Yeah, yeah, man.
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:46.000
Shout out DC Irving, man.
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.200
And he was he was like around my age.
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:54.400
And I was like, oh yeah, I hear so that's why so there were things that kind of got me to comedy.
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:57.839
And I was 07, and then literally I was watching Bad Boys of Comedy.
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:04.000
I seen Sydney up there, I seen the uh Who Got Jokes, I seen Ron G on there doing his thing.
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:05.359
I didn't know these guys yet.
00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:06.319
I didn't know anybody yet.
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.799
But you just look at it, it was like, no, they but they around my age.
00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:11.839
I remember uh Diddy, that's hilarious.
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:18.000
The diddler uh was um uh DC.
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:19.519
I mean, I'm sorry, Sydney.
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:21.119
And Sydney was like, Yeah, I'm 22, man.
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:22.000
I was like, I'm 22.
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:25.519
He's on Bad Boys and Comedy, and he me in the same age.
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:26.799
I gotta do this.
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:27.279
So I guess.
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:28.799
That's when Sydney still had hair.
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:31.519
He missed it though.
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:31.920
Yeah, yeah.
00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:33.440
We both do, nigga.
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:35.039
That's all you're niggas, man.
00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:40.160
Um yeah, so I was like, oh, and then Ron G, I seen, I seen these type of things.
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:46.079
When I saw Ron G on stage um with the Who Got Jokes, um, I was like, yeah, I gotta I gotta get on stage.
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:48.240
We talked we talked to Ron, and that was a conversation.
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:55.839
I was like, because that Ron and I mean that's Ron, that's Tiffany Haddish, that's uh Lil Rail, that's Keesha.
00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:57.039
Did that D-Lay on there?
00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:58.160
Uh D-Lay.
00:31:58.400 --> 00:31:59.279
D-Lay definitely did it.
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:00.319
I just don't remember.
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:00.880
Barry.
00:32:01.039 --> 00:32:01.599
Okay, Barry.
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:02.240
Barry, yeah.
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.960
But season one is almost all of them.
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:05.200
Yeah.
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:05.519
Yeah.
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:13.599
Delay, Danfo's like, oh man, this is a um it was that new renaissance of that ended up moving pretty quickly after.
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:15.119
And that's what I'm saying.
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:24.480
So like, and I get out here, I get home, but I I get back to LA in 08 the very next year, and I'm like, and I already started doing comedy up there, but I stopped.
00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:25.680
I didn't, you know what I'm saying?
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.480
I lost focus, and I'm running around, you know what I'm saying?
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:29.039
Excuse me.
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:33.440
And uh, and if I want I I still wanted to do it, but it was just so hard.
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:34.720
Comedy ain't easy.
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:35.759
You gotta want comedy.
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:36.480
You know what I'm saying?
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:45.599
You gotta relationship sitting in them, sitting in them them comedy clubs, not getting on, getting bumped, getting promised, hey, I mean, them bring them rooms and all that.
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:47.039
Uh, so you we all know.
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:55.359
And so uh if you're not really dedicated to it yet, and I wasn't dedicated yet, it wasn't until I got back home, and my aunt was like, my aunt's an actress, you know what I'm saying?
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.240
She was like, hey, um, I've always been silly.
00:32:58.319 --> 00:32:59.599
She was like, uh, so what you want to do?
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.720
I said, I want to do comedy, I want to act, I need an agent, you know what I'm saying?
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:09.839
So she was like, well, you know, they got a they got uh the comedy union, it's on Pico, you know, and then just go down there and on Monday and check it out.
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.039
Went in there by myself and um checked it out, loved it.
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.680
Memphis, Memphis Wheels, Memphis Wheel, Memphis Wheel.
00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:16.400
Memphis Wheel.
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.559
Memphis Wheel was was the host uh on that Monday, those Mondays.
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.920
And so for the first few years, man, every Monday I'm there.
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:25.039
You know what I'm saying?
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.720
And that's how I met all y'all.
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:28.319
I literally met y'all at that club.
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:29.119
You know what I'm saying?
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:29.920
So Mr.
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:30.400
Union, man.
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:30.720
Mr.
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:31.039
Union.
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:40.000
So yeah, so when you're okay you're doing stand-up, I I I I need to I gotta get into understanding because we we got a lot to cover with you.
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:40.480
Yes, sir.
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.599
When we're talking about you you go back to film school and I remember you were shooting for everybody.
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:54.480
I have theories on what's happening in this industry, but I feel like you're so far ahead of the curve because everything that you've shot.
00:33:55.279 --> 00:34:00.480
Why script it specifically, and how do those what are those first projects?
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:11.519
So all I know is filmmaking is you write the film, you shoot, you cast the film, you shoot it, and you edit it, and you you put it out, you submit it to film festivals, and then you hopefully win it.
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:20.320
And if you don't win it, you get some recognition, some recognition, some recognition, excuse me, and um, and then hopefully there's an agent there or a manager that might want to represent you.
00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:27.360
And they ask you what else you got, and next you know, you might be um getting a budget to shoot something bigger.
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.400
That's that was the that was the way I know that people was getting on.
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:33.599
You know, it wasn't going viral, that didn't exist yet.
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:35.360
So uh that's what I was doing.
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:40.719
Even back in the when I went back to film school in 2014, just to see what was new.
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:48.639
I know digital was getting cracking as far as the cameras, um, but I was I still wanted to learn the 16mm film, which is like, you know, the standard back in the day.
00:34:49.119 --> 00:35:03.599
Standing with 35, but like um I went back to film school and I did uh my my thesis of my little my like my final film before I got out that program, it was a short film I wrote, and I shot it, directed it, edited it myself out in class.
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:06.239
That was like that was my that was my final my thesis.
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:06.880
How long?
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:08.000
But uh how long ago?
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:08.960
How long was the film?
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:09.920
Like eight minutes.
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:10.960
Nice short.
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:11.519
Eight minutes.
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:13.360
Yeah, like a nice little short film.
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:14.880
And um that that was the thing.
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.119
You had to you had about a week to do it.
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:23.599
And so, and you had they paired us up in teams, and um uh this is uh of North Hollywood Burbank.
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:24.639
I was in, you know what I'm saying?
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:25.679
Right up to right up the street.
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:28.400
And uh BT's in it.
00:35:28.559 --> 00:35:30.400
BT is in my film, you know what I'm saying?
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:31.440
Back in 2014.
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:32.320
Oh, you know that.
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:33.599
Yeah, he's in there.
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.800
Yeah, so but uh Tony was supposed to be in it.
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:38.880
So but Tony had just booked the gig.
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:39.920
Tony, uh my bad.
00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:40.960
I don't want to do what you be doing.
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:41.519
Tony Baker.
00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.039
Tony Baker, you know, shout out to Tony Baker.
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:44.480
I mean, like I said, I'm connected to everybody.
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:46.559
I mean, we all connected in some way over the years.
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:56.559
If you if you if you're in LA as a black um uh creator, not even just a black comic, a black creator, um, we didn't probably if you really in your on your grind, we didn't pass.
00:35:56.800 --> 00:36:00.719
Yeah, you didn't we didn't cross paths, excuse me, damn, cross paths.
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:08.639
Yeah, you know, uh and so yeah, shot that film, did well, uh, had the best had the best film in the class.
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.119
Um just because I've been working so hard on it.
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:13.039
You know, and and it's almost like a cheat code.
00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:14.800
I know so many talented dudes.
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:16.320
I know so many talented people, man.
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:16.800
Right.
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:24.880
And so uh especially so you build this network of this talent around you, you know, and so I'm I'm I I got BT in it.
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:29.519
I got Tony was gonna do it, and he would, but I end up having to play the character because like he couldn't do it.
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.480
Craig couldn't even do it, Craig was uh going somewhere on the road.
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:33.039
Right, right.
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:37.679
You know, but I had these uh I think at that time you was probably gone.
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:39.760
You was doing the how what year was I?
00:36:41.199 --> 00:36:45.360
Uh I think I just ballers had just drive or something like that.
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:50.639
You probably might have been the first person I knew tangible that was like gone.
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:51.199
Yeah, yeah.
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:51.920
You know what I'm saying?
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:57.440
I think I remember when somebody hit me, somebody came by, hey, stick a London on me, you about to go on the road with Chris Tucker.
00:36:58.159 --> 00:36:58.880
Oh, yeah.
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:01.039
And we was like, what?
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.039
Yeah, I say, but it made sense.
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:03.760
It made sense, bro.
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.800
It was like so those when I hear stuff like that, that motivates me, bro.
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:13.280
That made me, for one, you're such a great dude, such a great humble dude, talented as hell, super cool.
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:18.719
And to sort of get to see you have that, to see you have MacGyver, you know what I'm saying, years ago.
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:28.400
I'm saying this, and and you was a when I wasn't shooting, when I wasn't in front of the camera, I was just trying to get I was just trying to write and shoot for everybody else, but I wasn't even focused all the way yet.
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:33.599
BT was doing like Joke Thief, you was doing, she wins, you was old, and this is a decade ago.
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.559
This is before social media was really what it is now.
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.159
I wanted Go ahead, go ahead.
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:47.920
I want to know what was the first like social media platform you really got on, and then like how long until you feel like you started to get some motion on it.
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:49.119
It was uh IG.
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:56.880
Um I had Vine, but Vine, you gotta be a genius, and I what and you gotta be focused to tell a story in six seconds.
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:12.559
Yeah, so I had a Vine and I did maybe 10, I probably did 10 to 12 different videos now, and I was there, I might do one video a month at that time because I wasn't focused, I didn't have a I didn't have a team of dudes to sit around and and and come up with dope ass ideas and shoot for me.
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:19.360
Even though I probably did, I knew everybody, but everybody's doing their thing, and and it's most likely me not focused.
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:21.119
I was I was a bodyguard back then, yeah.
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.119
So I was on the road a lot, you know what I'm saying?
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:29.519
So uh, but Instagram, when they Instagram started doing video in those 15 seconds, I was like, okay, maybe I could do 15.
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:29.840
Yeah.
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:30.480
You know what I'm saying?
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:32.000
Your brain is thinking long for him, though.
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:33.760
Right, right, right.
00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:40.800
So, but the beauty of social media is being able to tell a story in those short time, that that short time span is crazy.
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:50.559
So I had to I had to rework my mind to so social media wasn't really what I wanted to do initially, but I was like, I remember I was sitting in uh Chinnadeo's house.
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:52.639
Shout out to my brother Chinnadu.
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:53.519
You know what I'm saying?
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.199
Chinnadu and Chase Manhattan, man.
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:55.679
My boy Chase.
00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.000
Yeah, they was like, bro, you gotta get to Twitter.
00:38:58.159 --> 00:38:59.199
I said, I don't need no Twitter, bro.
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:00.000
I'm not doing no Twitter.
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:00.880
I don't like social media.
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:02.719
I social media was just starting to bubble.
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:02.960
Yeah.
00:39:03.119 --> 00:39:10.400
And I didn't think that I kind of understand the concept of Twitter, because I mean you're a comedian, you gotta find a way to like get a fan base outside of the people that you know.
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:11.599
And I was like, hey, you're right.
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:12.800
All right, I got a Twitter.
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.000
And uh back then I didn't have an iPhone, so it was Tweetcaster.
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:17.199
It was on Tweetcaster for the year.
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:20.159
But um, so yeah.
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:23.519
They really didn't give us Twitter, bro.
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:26.800
If you didn't have any iPhones, you cannot stare at it.
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:28.480
Tweetcaster was what I had, man.
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:32.880
And um, but uh, so but really Instagram is what I started going.
00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:33.760
I really started going.
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:40.960
And I had a I had a YouTube, I had a YouTube back then, but I wasn't I wasn't uh I wasn't I put my my short film on there.
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:45.360
I had put some of my my content from stand up, like, but I wasn't consistent.
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.280
What was the what's the first thing that goes crazy?
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:48.239
Is Tiberius?
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:48.960
Tiberius.
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:50.960
Tiberius was the first thing on IG.
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:51.360
Yeah.
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:52.639
IG and Facebook.
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:53.519
Facebook.
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:57.199
So and Facebook I wasn't really caring about either because they wasn't showing me that much love.
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.400
YouTube and Facebook wasn't really showing me showing me that much love.
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:08.239
IG was kind of like the the quick, you can see the views and the likes, and it was it's in your it's in the phone, and everything was cool like that.
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:12.719
So, but YouTube, I mean Facebook and IG was connected.
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:19.440
So if you there's a button that you can push where you can push, you can press, you can post on IG and you Facebook at the same time.
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.599
So I was doing that, not knowing that my numbers are starting to grow on Facebook.
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:25.599
I didn't I had no clue because I wasn't going over there.
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.440
I was just posting to IG and it was automatically going to Facebook.
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:35.119
So when I looked at it, I was like, oh snap, okay, I got my following is getting big over there, it's getting cool.
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:38.880
And um, and IG and YouTube wasn't really messing with me at first.
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.679
Uh so I wasn't really posting there as much.
00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:53.199
And then um, but so monetized monetization-wise YouTube, but as far as getting my getting my motivation to to keep going, the consistency was IG.
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:57.039
How hold on real quick, how how long before uh Tiberius hit?
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:58.719
How like how long were you posting?
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:07.599
I was inconsistent, but I was posting probably since 2015, 2016, and Tiberius hit in 2017.
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:22.159
So I was posting almost like a I was I was I might I might go through a good uh if I got the if I got the confidence or this this the drive to I'll drop two or three videos, four videos in a month on IG on my little iPad.
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:26.079
I'm doing like a little rant and talking talking shit and being saying something funny.
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.199
And back then I I was in my room doing playing three characters.
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:31.360
I played me and two of my roommates.
00:41:31.599 --> 00:41:32.239
You know what I'm saying?
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.880
Just me put a I put a beanie on and the next one I'm bald and the other one I got a hat.
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.039
So I'm playing three different guys, you know what I'm saying?
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:40.079
Because I ain't gonna bother nobody.
00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:41.519
Hey man, come over and shoot some stuff with me.
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:45.840
I I wasn't even and I wasn't consistent enough either to to think that was a thing to even ask somebody.
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:55.280
Yeah, see I asked that because I know a lot of people, they'll post one, two, three videos, it don't get the amount of numbers they wanted to get, and then they just be like, man, fuck this.
00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:57.119
And it's like I ain't been job, fuck this year.
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:01.280
Yeah, and it's like bruh, you don't realize people had to post two, three years.
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:01.679
Mr.
00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:05.519
Beast was posting seven, eight years before he popped.
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:07.199
And I think people be missing that.
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:13.599
It's like if they don't automatically get a million views on their second video, they like, man, they ain't fucking with me.
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.039
It's like, no, you're not fucking with yourself.
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.800
That might be believing yourself a little bit more.
00:42:16.960 --> 00:42:17.039
Right.
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:17.920
Keep posting.
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.800
With uh Tiberius's um, what was that?
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.760
What was the numbers on Tiberius that you was like, oh, this is out of here?
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:25.760
My homeboy called me, my brother, man.
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:33.760
He called me and he was like, bro, I think you got like a hundred uh hundred and ten thousand views on Facebook.
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:35.360
I wasn't checking Facebook.
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:39.280
I'm posting on IG, looking at all my IG views and seeing if it's gonna go.
00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:40.079
People start sharing it.
00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:40.639
I said, okay, cool.
00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:42.880
It's showing late, it's showing love, it's blowing up.
00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:43.760
On IG.
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:45.199
On Facebook?
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:45.840
Yeah.
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:46.719
On IG first.
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:47.519
Okay, IG first.
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:48.960
But then my I got a call.
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:50.239
I was driving to an audition.
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:50.639
That's crazy.
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:53.519
I was driving to an audition, I'm on the one-on-one, and my homeboy called him.
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:54.079
I'm in traffic.
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:58.159
He's like, bruh, your IG, your Facebook going up on this video.
00:42:58.480 --> 00:42:59.119
I said, really?
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.440
I went, I checked it, and I'm in traffic.
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:07.119
So every time I checked it, I would refresh it like every minute and a half, two minutes, and it'll go by 10,000 views.
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:07.519
Oh, shit.
00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:08.400
In like two minutes.
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:09.760
I was like, oh shit.
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.800
And I had a feeling that this was gonna be the one that goes because of where I'm at and what I'm doing.
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.039
The Tiberius is something that we all know you know Tiberius.
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:18.239
For sure.
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:20.400
It's just it's LA.
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:27.119
So you know somebody, anybody, whether you're in Florida, you know what I'm saying, whether you were in Texas or SAC, you can call somebody to, you know what?
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.679
Hey, and he'll ask you, hey man, you good?
00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.199
What's going on in your life, bro?
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:34.639
I know dudes who literally ask you, yo, London, man.
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.679
I've been knowing you since we was five years old, you know what I mean?
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:38.480
My nigga, bro.
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:41.280
I know that you're doing the comedy and acting and all that, but if you need something, let me know.
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:43.199
And this dude, you know, is uh up to that.
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:44.320
He and that shit.
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:48.559
He ain't got a regular job, he got he got he got felonies, you know what I'm saying?
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:51.840
But so he he's he's a black market, you know what I'm saying?
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:53.280
Uh get it done guy.
00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:53.920
You know what I'm saying?
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:55.920
So that's what I mean, that's what Tiberius is.
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:59.199
What's the most uh challenging part of creating content?
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:03.760
Uh Social media content for sure is there's no off season.
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:05.360
There's no off-season.
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:07.519
So like you gotta keep the algorithm going.
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:08.639
You gotta chase the algorithm.
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:10.559
That's the unfortunate part of it.
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:18.239
And um and if you don't love it enough or be hungry enough financially for the for the finance part of it, I'll do it for both.
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:18.880
I love this.
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:25.840
So I I stopped worrying about the views and start worrying about me and whether I enjoy the piece of content I dropped.
00:44:26.159 --> 00:44:26.719
You know what I'm saying?
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:34.639
Um what type of themes or messages do you feel you're drawn to with with your uh creative side?
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:50.000
So you say uh message uh I'm drawing to Or is there is there a certain type of theme where creatively when you sit down to create, what ideas or topics uh do you feel uh you lean towards to create?
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:51.519
Stuff that makes me laugh.
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:56.639
I mean I I've never and uh kind of wish I was more like this, but I'm not I'm not trendy.
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:59.920
So like I don't I don't like look at what's going viral now.
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:10.559
Like I for example, a perfect example of now, if I was, if it happened now, I would jump on it because that's something that I know I can I can do in my own in my own world.
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.880
But like you remember back when uh I think it was White Girls Say?
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:23.519
Oh yeah, and then Billy did Black Girls Say, and everybody was doing all those versions of what people, you know what I'm saying, African mom say, African dad say.
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:24.719
That was genius.
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.480
And everybody and remember uh my boy J Mac and Blood Cus.
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:33.119
And he went crazy with that, with things gangsters shouldn't say.
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:34.239
You know what I'm saying?
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:37.519
And that went viral, and that's how I knew him already through comedy.
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:48.800
But we then we he and I, umce again, over a decade ago, we put we we put like a little short SISTO trailer together and was trying to make some money on Indy, I raise some money on Indiegogo to create something.
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:50.800
This is before I was still behind the scenes.
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:51.679
You know what I'm saying?
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:57.360
I was acting, I was auditioning for commercials and TV, but when it came to my own brand, I was behind the camera.
00:45:57.599 --> 00:45:59.039
I was Jade Pickett jokes back then.
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:00.159
That wasn't even Big Jet.
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:01.599
It was Jade Pickett jokes.
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:02.880
That was my that was my YouTube.
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:05.360
So I wasn't even doing Tiberius yet.
00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:09.519
I had all these con I had all these ideas, and I I even had all these scripts.
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:16.639
Like my well, I when I talk about rejection, I was writing for, I was trying to write in uh remember when What the Funny hit?
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:17.440
Absolutely.
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.519
I sat down with Craig Wayne, you know what I'm saying?
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:20.159
Shout out to that brother.
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:21.280
You know what I'm saying?
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:21.920
He gave me a meeting.
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.000
We had we sit down, it didn't turn into nothing.
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.159
But uh but he gave me-to Craig, man.
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:32.480
Um we sat down and he gave me, we sat down for like 20 minutes.
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:36.079
It was like, it was uh I was pitching him stuff, I was showing them stuff on my iPad.
00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:37.679
Uh and at that time, um me.
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:41.039
Yeah, it was.
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:41.840
You was there.
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:43.920
I remember our BT is always there.
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:45.360
BT always in the city.
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:46.159
BT was there.
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:46.880
You need that TV.
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:48.320
BT was there.
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:49.039
BT was there.
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:49.920
Yeah, you were there.
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.239
Because I came in, you was waiting to talk to him.
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:53.440
I was sitting down, yep.
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:54.320
I remember that.
00:46:54.559 --> 00:47:00.239
And um, and that's back then when I was shooting stuff, I was shooting stuff for BT, shooting stuff for Nate.
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:08.239
And I was just, at that point, I was like, I was in my mind, I'm writing, I act too, but I'm writing, and uh, but I I didn't care about being a star.
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.079
I love filmmaking, I love creating.
00:47:10.159 --> 00:47:14.960
So whether I'm behind the camera and writing it, writing the descript, shooting it or editing it, I love it all.
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:15.679
You know what I'm saying?
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:20.159
So it wasn't before until I got in front of the camera, that's when things start taking off.
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:21.199
You know what I'm saying?
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.320
You was able to get your your your vision out in full.
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:38.159
Uh um, I wanted to talk to you about I think the filmmaker in you, uh unlike the the sketch thing or or stuff that people putting out on the phones, every time we'd be shooting on the phone, and Java would show up with a camera.
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:46.639
Like a full setup, you would have to be a little more patience with the shoot because you care about the quality, but that's showing up now in everything that you do.
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:52.719
Why was the outside of being a filmmaker, what benefits have you seen shooting at such a high quality?
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:57.119
Because now, in my brain, for licensing and stuff, yeah, yeah, everything's been good.
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:58.480
But did you know that beforehand?
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.480
I didn't know nothing about licensing at all.
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:03.360
I mean, I knew it existed, but I didn't know how to do it.
00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:11.119
I just knew that um I knew how to edit, I knew how to shoot, and I was like, nah, that's the way I'm gonna do it.
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:14.320
Um, that's why if I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do it the way I enjoy it.
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:14.559
Yeah.
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.440
You know, I respect everybody and how they was using the phones.
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:19.440
I never thought that was anything wrong with that at all.
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:21.199
Because some people they get it how they live.
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:21.440
Yeah.
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:22.719
I don't know how no.
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.119
So that's all if I was if that's all you know.
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:28.719
I'll never be like, well, I didn't go to film school, so I I don't I don't create.
00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:30.800
Nah, nigga, grab this camera and shoot.
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.199
Yeah, we used to be at the sketch house and we'd be on phones and I have a rig.
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:38.480
Yeah, and I boom at every lady.
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:42.400
Once again, shout out to the sketch house.
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.079
That's how it really started cracking for me.
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:51.280
I was doing security and I was supposed to go to Europe with my client, and he called he told me last minute, I'm not gonna be able to take you.
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:55.199
So now I'm like, oh snap, for those two months, I'm not gonna get that bread.
00:48:55.840 --> 00:49:02.960
And I've already, I was an editor, I was a freelance editor out here, and now people were sending me like movies and stuff like that, and I'm editing stuff and send it back.
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:05.760
And I had I had I cut all those gigs.
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:11.039
It wasn't a lot, but I cut like two or three gigs that would have given me some money to help me help me through the months.
00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:13.679
Because I'm about to go, I'm about to go, I'm I'm about to be gone.
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:15.519
So that now I don't have those gigs.
00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.599
I don't have this this gig to go on tour.
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.960
So now I'm sitting at the house tripping, like, damn, I ain't got no money.
00:49:21.199 --> 00:49:23.920
And I'm um uh me and Deshaun Ross, my boy Deshaun.
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:26.480
Yeah, we were roommates, he was roommates.
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:26.960
You know what I'm saying?
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:27.920
Yeah, that's the homie.
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.159
North Hollywood, Clayton Thomas called him.
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:31.039
Hey, bro, come over.
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:32.000
Uh, you you what you doing?
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:32.480
You in town?
00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:33.599
Yeah, I'm in town, I'm chilling.
00:49:33.679 --> 00:49:36.320
Hey, man, you mind coming over here and shooting this video for me and Tange?
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:37.599
Me and Tangerine.
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:39.599
Shout out to Tangerine, Tangerine Thomas.
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:40.559
You know what I'm saying?
00:49:41.119 --> 00:49:42.880
We don't need to say the last name, Tangerine.
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:44.239
Yeah, right, right, right.
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:46.159
Everybody got tangerine, yeah.
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:47.280
That's like all the way.
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:48.000
Exactly.
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:49.440
Boom, Madonna.
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:54.239
You know, uh, so I went over there and shot a sketch for them, just a four, just for them.
00:49:54.400 --> 00:49:56.639
And shot two, and then he said, Can you come back tomorrow?
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:58.320
Yeah, I ain't got nothing else to do, bro.
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.159
And I'm I'm here for the coach, I'm here for the homies.
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:09.119
And I shot there, I shot again, and um KP pulled up to their house, and he he's the he's the one that ran the sketch house, him and um B more.
00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:11.199
Sketchhouse, which is in Van Nuys.
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:12.000
Every Thursday.
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:13.280
And that every Thursday.
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:20.880
And no matter how it turned out, as far as the sketch house, shout out to those brothers, because that's what that's what sparked everything I I started doing.
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.480
Well, kicked in by the police.
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:26.719
Yeah, uh, just this a lot of a lot going on.
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:30.239
Okay, it's a sketch house is a it's a place that I went once.
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:31.280
I've been there one time.
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:31.840
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:39.920
I think yeah, we all used to shoot out there of B, you, Jahan, like that was like Tyree, Tyree, CT is like everything.
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:40.480
I mean, DeShea.
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:42.480
Everybody got their 10,000 followers over there.
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:43.440
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:44.960
So uh Deshay.
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:45.840
Deshay?
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:46.800
Deshea.
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:47.519
Yep.
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:48.400
That's crazy.
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:49.760
That's sketch house.
00:50:50.400 --> 00:51:00.719
Because Deshay was doing a when I first met Deshay, he was doing a sketch with uh Jahan, was dating, was supposed to be dating this girl, and it was Maddie Morbugs.
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:02.960
And Deshe was the son.
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:03.840
The son.
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:12.880
But watching the say Deshay did, he might have been 13, 14, but it was, he had everything he has now, he had that energy.
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:13.840
He was a star.
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:15.440
He was a star, bro.
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.159
It was like it was he was bouncing up, he was robbing you.
00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:25.519
He was like, like, like just bouncing off the walls with all this charisma and energy at 12-11.
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:25.679
Yeah.
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:27.280
That's not like with Cam Patterson.
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:30.239
When I see Cam Patterson, I'm like, this nigga remind me.
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:31.119
But we both from Florida.
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:34.159
I really see myself in him when I see him.
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:35.360
Yeah, my mama?
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:36.000
Like, what did you do?
00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:38.079
Yeah, he was tripping, he was making it.
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:39.119
Yeah, young dude, man.
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:41.920
He had all that, he had all that uh that that talent, bro.
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:43.039
It was he committed.
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:44.800
He was he he wasn't afraid, nothing.
00:51:44.880 --> 00:51:49.119
He was he you dropped the cool, he just dove in, locked in with the actor, man.
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:51.280
Um the sketch house, my bad though.
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:52.079
No, that's okay.
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:52.480
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:54.400
So so what so what else happened?
00:51:54.480 --> 00:52:03.760
So you said you you shot at for tangerine and CT, um, but you were just saying that's how you kind of got into the Yeah, and then they hit um KP invited me to the sketchhouse.
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:04.719
I was like, what's the sketchhouse?
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:08.159
He's like, every Thursday we there from uh 11 a.m.
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:09.599
to 7:30 p.m.
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:11.360
You can just come up and create.
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.519
And he is it's it's it's invite only.
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:18.719
You know, so I went up there and I'm seeing 30, 40 people in his house.
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:20.480
Working, working, cameras.
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:25.440
Everybody shooting it, and it was like I had to-a lot of the baddies got their numbers too.
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:25.920
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:26.239 --> 00:52:29.679
You come in the sketch house, you know, you're gonna run the so- I got a sad ass.
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:31.920
Can I get some follows?
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:33.440
And then you got a thumbnail?
00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:36.320
You literally got a thumbnail booty.
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:36.960
Right.
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:37.280
Yeah.
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:42.559
This chick was literally trying to be in the sketch, and he was like, I need a girl and some lingerie.
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:43.840
And she took her clothes off.
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:44.960
She had panties on.
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:45.280
Yeah.
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:46.159
She took her clothes off.
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:46.960
I got it.
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:48.960
I was like, what the fuck?
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:50.159
Yeah, we was going, baby.
00:52:50.239 --> 00:52:51.760
I said, Oh, but the sketch house is that.
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.519
He didn't want eating up with the home.
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:57.920
We like.
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:02.559
But I got I had homies that pulled up to that too, and they was like, I had a partner.
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:07.039
Uh, and he was like, uh, yeah, I'm not coming back here, bro.
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:08.880
He was like, it's just not.
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.360
And my lady, man, it's just not gonna be good, bro.
00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:11.840
I'm cool.
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:12.960
It's not conducive.
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:13.920
You gotta be focused.
00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:14.880
And I was focused.
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:15.119
Yeah.
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:17.599
So I was there to work, uh, to work, man.
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:22.000
Of course, and I'm the yam man, so I'm looking at all the yams, but I spent so many.
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:23.599
Yeah, the yam man.
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:24.800
Shout out to that merch, too.
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:25.920
That's the merch, yeah.
00:53:26.000 --> 00:53:26.719
Oh, yeah, yes indeed.
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:27.440
Yamsterdam.
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:28.960
Uh it was like Yamsterdam.
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:30.719
That's that's why I came up with Yamsterdam.
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:32.239
Um Yam Watch.
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:37.199
Yam Watch and all that sketchhouse, because you walk in there and it's like Unreal.
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:37.519
Yeah.
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:38.400
There's chicks in there.
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:40.159
Yeah.
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:41.119
Wherever you are.
00:53:41.360 --> 00:53:42.239
Wherever you are, man.
00:53:42.800 --> 00:53:43.199
I see them.
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:45.760
Millions of views, reverse that they did.
00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:46.800
They sit around.
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:47.440
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:55.199
Some of them, some of them were uh some of them were amazing actresses, some of them did more online mala, some of them open up.
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:56.960
Some of them do massages, yeah.
00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:57.519
Absolutely.
00:53:58.079 --> 00:53:59.119
That's definitely the biggest thing.
00:53:59.840 --> 00:54:03.760
You get a you get a uh a smorgasbord of different types of women there.
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:06.000
And so uh shout out to them, man.
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:07.840
And but and that's the stomach grounds.
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:20.239
If you you can use it to your advantage, because it's it's also, or you can it can be your demise, because it's it's uh you gotta have your ideas, you gotta be able to quick shoot fast, because it's a it's a line of people.
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:22.400
So it's it's it's equivalent to us being in this room.
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:23.599
There's four of us in here.
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:32.639
And you shooting in London, you shooting by this all things comedy sign, you shoot right here in this corner, you shoot in that corner, I'm shooting in this corner, and we all got three sketches to shoot today.
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:32.880
Yeah.
00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:34.480
And we all in each other's stuff.
00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:34.800
Yep.
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:34.960
Yeah.
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:39.360
So it's like, yo, oh, yo, uh, Justin, um, you about to go next, and boom.
00:54:39.519 --> 00:54:41.119
So it we doing take for take.
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:44.000
So you getting your take in, and we all gotta be quiet.
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:45.039
Justin going.
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:46.000
That's true.
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.159
Justin get it, he gets his take.
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:49.280
Alright, cut.
00:54:49.360 --> 00:54:50.320
You're gonna go again.
00:54:50.480 --> 00:54:50.719
Right.
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.880
But while you cutting, you can't go right back.
00:54:53.199 --> 00:54:54.079
It's your turn now.
00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:55.599
Yeah.
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:56.480
And it's the other thing.
00:54:56.639 --> 00:54:57.440
A nice oil machine.
00:54:57.519 --> 00:54:57.920
Oh, yeah.
00:54:58.000 --> 00:54:59.920
Yeah, it got to a point where you gotta respect everybody.
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.119
Hey, man, I let me get one.
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:01.599
I'm getting one.
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:02.880
Everybody quiet upset?
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:04.079
And you gotta be quiet.
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:12.800
And then we would, then after we would all cut, we would all edit, and then you'd post your content, but you would also share yours with his.
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.440
So now you got he got his three videos, he got your three videos, he got your three.
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:22.639
Your video might do crazy on my page and okay on your page.
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:22.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:26.079
But you all tagged in it, but my video might do crazy on his page.
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:28.800
But speak on the ones that didn't tag.
00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:29.599
Okay.
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:30.559
No, you know the.
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:32.000
Yeah, it's always a weirdo.
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:33.199
Just go keep a list.
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:37.360
Nah, here's the thing.
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:38.639
I keep a list too.
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:41.039
But I but I just kill him with kindness, man.
00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:41.679
That's the best way to do it.
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:42.480
Kill them with kindness.
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:51.440
Because if you let it eat you alive, man, it just, you know, you don't, you ever you never want to like keep the guys that keep those guys in your heart that slighted you.
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:52.800
You know what I'm saying?
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:55.199
Um, but I remember, I remember.
00:55:55.360 --> 00:56:01.920
And and and and I'm petty too, but not in the way where I'm gonna hurt you, I'll never lie, I'll never cheat, I'll never down your name.
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:03.440
I I know you did me dirty, bro.
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:04.960
And I'm not gonna even tell them that.
00:56:05.119 --> 00:56:06.000
You know what I'm saying?
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:07.440
But because that's not fair.
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:13.760
They the you could they like they like you for the reason they like you for, and they don't know about the the they don't know about what happened between us.
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:14.159
Right, right.
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:15.039
That's between us.
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.599
I hold on, I did have a real question.
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:27.280
Um where was the transition from Facebook and IG to saying I'm finna move over to YouTube and really start posting.
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.679
It happened uh by accident.
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:34.719
Look, bro, um, so I had this this this app on my phone that that you can rip videos from YouTube.
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:40.000
And I used to do a lot of uh videos where I would like see something funny going on and I put myself in the video.
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:41.119
Like I'm watching it.
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:48.239
So I'm walking out my house, like drinking drinking a soda or something, and I look and I look, and it's a girl like bashing a guy's window in.
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:51.519
It's just a video, homemade video that somebody fit and put it up on YouTube.
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:52.880
So I would rip it and use it.
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:53.360
Right.
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:55.360
So that that app went away.
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:56.480
It just discontinued.
00:56:56.559 --> 00:56:57.280
I couldn't use it no more.
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.719
So I'm looking on uh in the Apple store for a new app.
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:03.679
So I type in this app called uh YT Studio.
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:06.719
I was looking at why YouTube downloaders, right?
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:12.559
And this is you know, they give you a list of different videos, I mean a list of different apps, and uh YT Studio is one of them.
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:22.000
I said, maybe I can rent, maybe this is what's uh uh app I can rent videos from YouTube on, and I downloaded it and looking through it, and I was like, man, this ain't no, this is like an analytic app.
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:22.800
What the hell?
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:31.119
But I already signed in with my my my my username and all that, and it says, no, it's it says at the time it was it was big ja, it was already big ja.
00:57:31.920 --> 00:57:33.360
But it said revenue.
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.960
I'm just clicking, I'm just it's a new app, so I'm just playing with it.
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:39.760
I said is it revenue and it said six cents.
00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.920
I said and it said monetized.
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:45.599
Like the page is monetized.
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:54.000
I was like, now mind you, this this is 27, this is 2017, but I made this page in 2011.
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:54.960
Oh wow.
00:57:55.280 --> 00:58:00.320
And I wasn't even really doing that much content online, I was just doing stand-up and auditioning for stuff.
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:02.639
I made a page just to have it and I left it.
00:58:02.960 --> 00:58:04.320
It was just sitting dormant for a while.
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:07.760
And I every now and then I would drop like a comedy set on that page.
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:08.800
You know what I'm saying?
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:15.360
Yeah, you know, so you know when you you do you do bits and say, you know, I gotta showing that it's you document this is my bit.
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:21.039
So I I was just started putting my sets on this page, and it got monetized over the years.
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:22.480
Then no, but only had six cents.
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:24.320
Six pennies is what the page is worth.
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:25.039
Yes, no true.
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:26.320
But that's all I needed.
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:27.599
Six cents?
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:29.760
Oh, I gotta make some money?
00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:30.719
Six pennies?
00:58:31.039 --> 00:58:31.679
Oh, bro.
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:34.719
I and I got I got all these little one-minute videos on IG?
00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:37.280
You got it, you got your I carried it over.
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:37.920
Nice.
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:38.719
I carried it.
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:40.159
So now I got content for days.
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:41.599
You got to stock because you already did it.
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:42.880
I stocked it up on YouTube.
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:43.679
I mean on IG.
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:45.280
So did you do like a collab?
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:48.559
Was it like how many one-minute videos did you put back to back to play?
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:52.400
I was dropped a I dropped a one-minute video every single day for 11 days.
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:54.159
And it spiked.
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:55.119
It spiked.
00:58:55.199 --> 00:59:00.880
And then I I'm looking in the background saying, um, 1,000 subscribers you need.
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:07.599
Uh the two criteria for monetization is 1,000 subscribers and 4,000 watch hours.
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:11.039
And I I think at the time I had 1,900 watch hours.
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:12.559
I was like, okay, I got work to do.
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:13.599
You know what I'm saying?
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:15.920
I had 235 subscribers.
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:17.039
Okay, I got work to do.
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:18.559
So now I'm just flooding it.
00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:26.400
I had Tiberias up there and it did okay initially, but I started putting Tiberius part two, part three, part four up there, and then the whole crew stupid.
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:33.039
And then I just started thinking of all these different crazy ideas that I already had in my in my in my uh files.
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:36.159
I had scripts that I was trying to sell to ADD back in the day.
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:40.880
They didn't say, shout out to ADD, it's love, but they didn't rock with me at the time.
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:42.880
Which is a blessing in disguise.
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:43.599
I thank y'all.
00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:45.360
And it wasn't, I don't I didn't take it personal.
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:47.599
I mean, of course I kind of did because I knew all the niggas over there.
00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:48.000
Yeah, right.
00:59:48.079 --> 00:59:48.480
You know what I'm saying?
00:59:48.719 --> 00:59:49.119
That's natural.
00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:49.840
Come on, Cab.
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:50.559
Come on, Patrick.
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:51.199
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:59:51.519 --> 01:00:00.320
But even but even before then, even before Cab, because uh ADD, when Cab was just like a uh, he was just like a uh a soul, it was like a contractor.
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:06.239
They were paying him to make content with him and his kids and stuff like this in the parodies and stuff like that he wasn't even at ADD yet.
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:08.400
This is back when Austin's TV was cracking.
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:08.559
Wow.
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:10.960
Okay, wait, so because we gotta now we hear.
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:11.599
I'm sorry.
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:19.199
I'm trying to walk my way into the house.
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:27.039
So the you see the money, you see the six cents, you say I'm finna start giving this.
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:28.800
That's the only reason we started this podcast.
01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:31.039
Talking about the cocoa.
01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:32.079
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:32.960
Go, go, go.
01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:39.360
What was what was the amount where shit got real?
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:47.280
When did you what did you look up and see that you was like, oh, this is I can live a good life.
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:47.679
Yeah.
01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:50.719
Yeah, what what was happening in that time?
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:54.079
How how long were the videos and and we talking?
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.480
What was Facebook doing versus YouTube?
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:00.800
Without getting any tax implications, you know what I mean.
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:10.639
Uh so look, the the timeline, you IG uh was where I was putting most of my focus in.
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:12.159
It's because I just love doing it.
01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:15.199
I love to see the responses, the comments and stuff like that.
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:16.960
And um, it was quick.
01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:21.280
And then I and then Facebook, not knowing that Facebook was growing too, unbeknownst to me.
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:22.320
I didn't even know.
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:29.679
And then but then I then I saw I was monetized on IG, I mean on YouTube, excuse me, with very few with very few videos on there.
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:35.360
So now I'm taking all my IG videos and putting these one-minute videos on YouTube.
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.199
Now I got constant content dropping every day.
01:01:39.360 --> 01:01:40.159
It's only a minute.
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:41.280
You know what I'm saying?
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:44.880
But some of these things is going viral, and some of these things is finally hitting.
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:50.480
And then you do it every day, they're gonna put you an algorithm when they're when you feeding the algorithm, they're gonna they're gonna embrace you.
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:55.679
Um and so my my my following went up, and then my my bread went up.
01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:59.119
And so uh I wasn't even monetized on Facebook yet.
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:09.760
I was trying to find out how I had, I had, I think I had 55,000 followers on Facebook when I finally looked at at my at my page, I was like, whoa, I that's crazy to me.
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:17.599
I might have had 25,000 on the IG and maybe 12,000 on YouTube, but I had 55,000 on Facebook.
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:19.920
And and but I wasn't monetized.
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.639
And all most of my stuff was going crazy over there.
01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:25.119
Tiberius is what it hit a million in three days.
01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:26.559
You know what I'm saying?
01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:29.440
It hit a million followers, I mean a million views in three days.
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:31.280
And that's now I was like, okay.
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:33.519
So I made a part two, and that went.
01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:37.840
And I then after like two or three episodes of that, now I'm the big Tiberius nigga.
01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:38.480
You know what I'm saying?
01:02:38.559 --> 01:02:42.320
So now, and then I okay, I don't want to get typecast as Debo.
01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:45.280
Just uh I'm gonna keep doing this, but not I can't only do this.
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:47.039
So I came up with I'm coming too.
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:47.599
You know what I'm saying?
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:54.559
With me and Sade, where I play a boyfriend and my girlfriend is on my head, she's super clingy, and she don't let me do nothing by myself, not even take a shit.
01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:55.199
You know what I'm saying?
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:57.360
So so and that went, that started going viral.
01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.440
Now everybody like, oh man, you and Sade, man.
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:00.559
And I be like that.
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:05.440
And everybody, a lot of dudes love a hood, pretty ass girl that's in your ass, bro.
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:06.480
You know what I'm saying?
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:07.599
That's always on your head.
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:08.400
You know what I'm saying?
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:09.920
So E Bet from Belly.
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:11.760
I mean E Bet Eve from uh Baby Boy.
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:12.880
That's what I was thinking about.
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.119
Yeah, so that's what Sade was, and they loved it.
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.119
They ended up, and I'm like, okay, now I got something.
01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:18.400
I got that, I got this.
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:20.320
Let me think of some other some more stuff.
01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:29.920
And so, and and and and so at one point in time I was dropping uh episode of Tiberius, an episode of I'm Coming To, and episode of uh The Whole Crew Stupid.
01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:32.159
I started doing that, and that went viral.
01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:32.800
That went viral.
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:33.519
Whole crew is stupid.
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:35.840
That's what I whole crew stupid one is classic.
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:37.119
Yeah, I appreciate it, man.
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:43.199
Two two is also classic with terror, but boy, you talk about something I went back and watched over and over and over.
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:46.159
I'm a good 42,000 of them views, bro.
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:47.199
Hey, I appreciate it.
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:48.719
I appreciate it, man.
01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:53.199
And so, and and and that and so now almost every video is going viral.
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:55.519
And so, uh, and then on Facebook.
01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:57.199
On Facebook and IG.
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:57.440
Okay.
01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:58.400
I mean, Facebook and YouTube.
01:03:58.559 --> 01:03:59.599
And what age is this?
01:03:59.920 --> 01:04:00.079
Yeah.
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:00.800
What year is this?
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:01.599
This is 2018.
01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:02.480
Okay, keep going.
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:06.480
Um 20 in the 2017, it's 2018, really.
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:09.840
Um, and so I'm like, man.
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:13.840
So the monetization started, I think my first check might have been like$578.
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:14.559
Okay.
01:04:14.719 --> 01:04:14.880
Right?
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:16.159
And I was like, I'll take it.
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:17.199
At the time I was hurting.
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:17.599
For sure.
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:18.320
You know what I'm saying?
01:04:18.559 --> 01:04:22.239
And um, when I'm not on the road, I'm at home living off my savings.
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:24.000
And my savings is do is dwindling.
01:04:24.159 --> 01:04:24.639
You know what I'm saying?
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:36.800
So uh it got to a point where I my last couple thousand dollars was in my my account, and I'm and I gotta pay this rent, and but I'm about to go on tour in about uh in two weeks, so I'm good.
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:37.519
I'll be alright.
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:39.920
Is it just you or who you who you touring with at this time?
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:41.920
I'm touring with Dizzy Wright and Hobson.
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:43.039
Dizzy Wright.
01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:47.039
And so uh who's an artist of Vegas out of my nigga Dizzy, man?
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:59.039
And um who is uh uh artist that's the and that also taught me uh that taught me a lesson that you don't have to be Kendrick Lamar or Wiz Khalifa to uh to have a fan base around the world.
01:04:59.199 --> 01:04:59.599
Right.
01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:02.719
And be and making bread around the world, you know what I'm saying?
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:04.880
You just need you just need your fans.
01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:15.840
You don't need to be as popular as Kevin Hart to be successful and be comfortable and be able to provide for your family and be able to hopefully um provide put opportunities for the homies and stuff like that.
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:19.199
So that's I learned that with him because he was putting his homies on.
01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:23.360
And I'm I'm gonna we around the world and he's getting chased down the street, you know what I'm saying?
01:05:23.599 --> 01:05:27.360
So um So you saw the you saw the 500, then what?
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:33.599
When you still my next check was like uh was like uh no, I'm sorry.
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:35.119
The first check was 758.
01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:35.840
Okay.
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:38.800
And then the next check was 1400 the next month.
01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:40.559
So I was like, oh sh I doubled it.
01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:52.400
And at the time, I'm like, oh in a month I just doubled and it's not and it wasn't it and so I'm like, okay, maybe I can get 3,000 next time because this is almost$1,500 right here.
01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:52.559
Right.
01:05:53.039 --> 01:05:56.159
Next one's$3,000 and it went to$1,900.
01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.679
Okay, so it moved slower that third month, and then that fourth.
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:00.639
Month.
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:02.000
That shit jumped, my nigga.
01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:05.440
Did you see the input in the in the knee?
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:07.440
Did you see the knee?
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:10.480
That fourth month, man, went to 9500.
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:11.280
You know what I'm saying?
01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:14.400
And so I was like, I'm sharing this with the humble.
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.360
Obviously, I'm sharing it with y'all too now, but like y'all, y'all that's y'all family, man.
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:18.239
Yeah, straight up.
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:22.159
And um I don't even know when you talk about bread like that, because it's not even about that.
01:06:22.320 --> 01:06:28.559
But it is about that when you love doing what you're doing, and you do it for the love, and then then you it provides you financial freedom.
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:35.760
I just want to know how many subscribers did you have before that 9,500, before it really jump jumped.
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:40.000
I would say probably maybe 80,000.
01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:40.880
Oh, okay.
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:41.199
Yeah.
01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:42.400
We got some work to do.
01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:42.719
Yeah, yeah.
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:43.280
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:46.159
This is on Facebook or YouTube or Facebook.
01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:46.800
This is YouTube.
01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:49.360
I wasn't even Facebook wasn't fucking with me yet, as far as monetization.
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:50.239
Oh, wow.
01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:52.559
But my my following was bigger on Facebook, though.
01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:54.400
But I wasn't monetized, so that shit don't matter.
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:55.039
Gotta gotta get it.
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:55.519
You know what I'm saying?
01:06:55.679 --> 01:07:04.480
What's dope about this is that even though, as you mentioned, with anybody that's really uh true to the art, it's not necessarily about even chasing the money like that.
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:06.079
That's that's an afterthought.
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:13.840
But it is important for people to see that the big job brand didn't just happen when they saw.
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:19.519
Like this was there was a lot of a lot of grind and and that kind of thing that went into two different terms of film school.
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:21.599
Two different two different terms of film school.
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:24.079
We're not even including when you was up in the bay coming down.
01:07:24.480 --> 01:07:31.840
Um what's one of those mistakes you made in the middle of this process that you feel uh you learn from?
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:32.800
Ooh.
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:49.760
Um one of the mistakes I made probably a few of them uh so I want people to understand that pause, he's going through a list of things.
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:50.639
Yeah, I hear it, I really.
01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:52.400
I get it.
01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:52.800
Absolutely.
01:07:53.199 --> 01:08:04.800
Um, when I when I first started doing comedy, I mean doing comedy and even sketches, I started with um, like I said, we met first day that I started doing comedy.
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:07.280
It might have been, I think you told me, I remember this this the story.
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:08.880
You said, I'm gonna get to your answer too.
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:12.159
Um you was like, uh you started a year ago, then you quit.
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:13.599
Or you didn't quit, you stopped.
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:15.440
And now you was getting back into it.
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:16.560
It's 2009.
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:17.039
Okay.
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:19.439
And correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know when you actually started.
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:20.960
It depends on what the point you're making.
01:08:21.039 --> 01:08:21.920
I'm gonna go ahead and do it.
01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:22.239
Yeah, yeah.
01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:28.640
Yeah, so uh, no, no, so I brought that up to say like I just it's a journey.
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:36.800
So um, so when I when I first started, it was with Chinnidu and Chase doing sketches.
01:08:37.039 --> 01:08:37.600
You know what I'm saying?
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:41.920
I would I would meet up with shout out to uh Brandon Wiley, KD Ringer.
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:44.239
We was like, we used to pull up in Denny's and have writing sessions.
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:46.000
I think I was like, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:46.640
I'm sorry, yeah.
01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:47.760
Yes, you too.
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:48.960
I'm tripping, my bad.
01:08:49.039 --> 01:08:50.000
I should have said Linda Brown.
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:52.319
I think we're part of that whole idea.
01:08:52.720 --> 01:08:54.880
Yeah, we was doing our thing, and then they they did a couple sketches.
01:08:54.960 --> 01:09:02.000
I I came, I came to KD house and he was doing like a little uh um uh uh a Mexican wrestler sketch.
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:03.760
Him and him and me and be him and B.
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:04.239
Wiley, man.
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:05.359
That filmed it excited.
01:09:05.920 --> 01:09:06.720
And I edited it, yeah.
01:09:06.800 --> 01:09:08.079
So I was on that back then.
01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:10.960
Um, and me and Craig was doing our thing, doing sketches.
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:23.359
So it was it was them, it was uh it was Chinnadu and Chase, and then me and Craig was doing our thing, and then I kind of like we Craig started doing uh he would start doing um truck driving, he was working.
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:23.840
Right.
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:24.479
You know what I'm saying?
01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:28.479
Craig always had a job in the middle of doing comedy, so he was doing both rhymes.
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:33.199
And so, so long story short, I know I'm I went from the beginning.
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:34.319
I had a team.
01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:41.119
When I first started going hard with the sketches, um I started going like I'm talking about weekly, daily, um in 2017.
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:44.560
All right, so me, shout out to my boy Ken with my brother, man.
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:45.039
Ken.
01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:46.000
Dominican Ken.
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:47.119
Dominican Ken, man.
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:50.399
He was a first guy I started, I started using his house.
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:56.800
Every Wednesday, I was shooting my sketches in his house, and he we both was shooting his sketches, my sketches, sketch house on Thursdays.
01:09:56.960 --> 01:10:03.039
Then it got to Wednesday, Thursdays, and then Saturdays, and then Wednesday, Thursdays, Saturdays, then it got to the point I'm shooting four or five times a week.
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:07.520
And I'm saying so, and then me, him, I met Troy in LA at the sketch house.
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:08.560
I met Minx.
01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:10.479
And then Minx are coming to the sketch house.
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:17.279
So now I'm I got a team of dudes that are selfless, dudes that are like, hey man, um, I need you to shoot for me tomorrow.
01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:20.399
Cool, I got you, and I got you the next day, and I got you the next day.
01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:21.920
So I'm shooting at I know money.
01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:23.279
We broke, they broke, I'm broke.
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:24.239
You know what I'm saying?
01:10:24.399 --> 01:10:30.479
And and we we we worked on each other's sketches, we shot each other's sketches for each other anytime I asked.
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:31.520
I asked somebody there.
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:38.079
And when you can when you got when you got an unlimited amount of you got a a cameraman anytime you want to shoot something, right?
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:42.239
That's that's what get that's what got me to where I'm at.
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:47.039
Cause now I got I got thousands of ideas, and I got someone that's gonna shoot it for me.
01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:49.680
And I'm also repaid a favor by doing the same thing.
01:10:50.159 --> 01:10:54.560
I don't got no money, I can't pay you, and I ain't expecting you to pay me, but I come and shoot your shit, you come shoot mine.
01:10:54.720 --> 01:10:56.319
And that's we did that for years.
01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:02.239
We got all got monetized, and then it got to a point where I was like, all right, we gotta get our own individual teams.
01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:09.439
We still a crew, but you get your so you get you two shooters, get you two shooters, get you two shooters, and I get myself two shooters.
01:11:09.600 --> 01:11:12.319
Two cameras, I'm shooting with two cameras so I can go fast.
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:17.840
Yeah, shooting both angles like like TV.
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:20.399
Yeah, yeah, film school, you know what I'm saying?
01:11:20.479 --> 01:11:20.560
Yeah.
01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:22.479
So I was like, and and I didn't have no bread.
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:28.079
And once I got the money, even to this day, I don't, I don't, I I got I got the same car from 2018.
01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:29.119
You saw the web I got.
01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:30.079
I need a new one.
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:30.880
You know what I'm saying?
01:11:30.960 --> 01:11:35.439
But uh I put the money into the con into the work, into the business, you know what I'm saying?
01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:41.920
So the cameras, all the stuff I own myself, just so I I can I don't have to wait on nobody to with their cameras and stuff like that.
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:43.840
I got my I just need you to come and shoot it.
01:11:43.920 --> 01:11:44.159
Yeah.
01:11:44.319 --> 01:11:45.119
You know what I'm saying?
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:50.960
So um the the the mistake I made was I don't think it was a mistake, I can't say it was a mistake.
01:11:51.039 --> 01:12:02.319
It feels like it because I feel like once we kind of spread out and kind of was doing our own thing, we still kicked it, we still was the family, but everybody didn't move as fast as I moved after that without me being in the picture.
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:08.960
And that's just that's just the uh not necessarily they weren't lazy necessarily, but like it's a grind.
01:12:09.039 --> 01:12:10.399
This shit ain't easy, man.
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:12.560
And you need someone that's gonna push.
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:17.199
I'm gonna I'm gonna drop the I'm uh I was dropping, I was editing two or three videos a day.
01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:20.560
I'm falling asleep at me and uh me and Nate live together.
01:12:21.039 --> 01:12:21.600
You know what I'm saying?
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:24.399
When y'all was roommates, and then right after that, y'all you got your spot.
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:26.800
Yeah, I walk out.
01:12:27.199 --> 01:12:29.119
You're getting sleepy if you want to put it over here.
01:12:29.279 --> 01:12:30.640
Yeah, I'm talking about watching the game.
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:35.840
The sun is coming up, and I'm trying to drop my video at 8:30 in the morning, 8 o'clock in the morning, at the latest 8:30.
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:39.840
I'll drop it and I'll go to sleep, and I'll wake up at 12, and I get up and do it again every day.
01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:42.079
And that was 2017, 18, 19.
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:42.960
You know what I'm saying?
01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:52.000
And so uh my I think not a mistake, but like I think something I'm I I kind of would have done a little different is maybe not so quickly branch out.
01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:58.479
We was all making money, and and I feel like we lost kind of like the nucleus of what we had.
01:12:58.640 --> 01:12:59.760
Imagine us four.
01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:00.560
You know what I'm saying?
01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:06.640
Like if we all four right now, it's years ago, we all busy now, but like if we say, okay, us four are gonna start doing this.
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:08.720
You know, anytime you need to shoot, I'm there.
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:12.319
I'm gonna shoot your videos, I'm gonna shoot your videos, and y'all, and one of y'all shoot mine.
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:15.840
And we do this a year and two, three, we're we're all gonna blow up.
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:16.479
It's gonna work.
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:17.520
You know what I'm saying?
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:19.039
And then we we got away from it.
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:19.920
Not in a bad way.
01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:27.840
We still we all continue to shoot, but after a while, I think when the without that daily, that daily like, I'm in your face, you in my face, we working, folks.
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:29.359
When you start making money, you know what I'm saying?
01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:31.600
Folks start getting a little too complacent.
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:40.159
And so I I think that's what I think the crew kind of like, the initial crew, that kind of kind of like maybe uh slowed other people down.
01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:43.359
And me, I can't, I ain't slowed down because I gotta get.
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:52.159
Like the Tubi partnership, yeah.
01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:57.119
And and and like putting it out over there, did you see what you wanted to see out of it?
01:13:57.279 --> 01:13:58.079
Before absolutely.
01:13:58.239 --> 01:13:59.439
And I I was hearing stories.
01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:05.680
My homeboy, one of my DP actually, his ex-girlfriend had a friend that was like, yeah, she says that he's making money over there.
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:07.920
He's doing numbers, you know what I'm saying?
01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:11.279
And uh, and we could talk about it too, that I'm saying afterwards, you know what I'm saying?
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:15.279
Um, but uh, unless y'all want me to say it here, but I'd rather, you know what I'm saying?
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:16.079
Say yeah.
01:14:16.399 --> 01:14:23.920
I I did want to ask to answer this question, but I did want to ask about how did the to be partnership come to be in the first place?
01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:30.079
And kind of what what obligations or do you have to fulfill, you know, for that or whatever.
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:31.359
But no, answer that first.
01:14:31.760 --> 01:14:33.359
Yeah, um, shalom.
01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:54.399
So uh, yeah, uh initially with the brand deals and everything, uh my goal was to in order to get brand deals, you gotta do brand deal content in a sense like, for example, even if this ain't even like you gotta make this a product and make a sketch out of it, and hopefully it can do well do well enough to where you can show somebody be like, man, I made a product, I made a sketch about this.
01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:55.199
On my own, yeah.
01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:55.840
On my own.
01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:58.640
So that's what the Bluetooth started coming around, Manscaped.
01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:10.399
Yeah, so uh, and and I I I learned that from guys from like film school doing spec commercials, you know, and one also even even uh CT.
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:11.760
Shout out to CT, man.
01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:21.039
Um, I remember he did a couple spec uh episodes for some show, and then he ended up becoming a writer on different shows, you know what I'm saying?
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:28.399
Because like yeah, so if you show or I know filmmakers that were like, hey, I'm I want to do a uh McDonald's commercial, you know what I'm saying?
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:37.199
And uh, and he did it for free, and he showed it to McDonald's, and they ended up hiring him as a as a commercial, as a director to come direct a commercial.
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:41.680
So I started doing that with the sketches, two two three-minute sketches.
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.359
Um and then What kind of products were you plugging, if you don't mind?
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:46.159
Oh, Bluetooth.
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:47.439
Oh, I got you, gotcha, gotcha.
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:48.960
But you always do episode of your own.
01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:53.199
Before that, I it was a it was this other pill called Macava back in the day.
01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:54.560
The sketch house days.
01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:54.720
Right.
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:56.479
It was this company called Macava.
01:15:56.880 --> 01:16:02.319
They had a they had like a natural um pill, a capsule that helped you in the bedroom.
01:16:02.399 --> 01:16:03.039
You know what I'm saying?
01:16:03.119 --> 01:16:04.239
So they reached out.
01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:06.000
I was doing I was doing content.
01:16:06.159 --> 01:16:09.760
I did a my first, I think my first promo was then called Woody Wipes.
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:12.560
Woody wipes is like a wet wipe for your for your meat.
01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:13.359
You know what I'm saying?
01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:18.079
So I did it, and that was only like that wasn't even a lot of money, but I did it and it went viral.
01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:20.239
Me and Sade did it, and they did well.
01:16:20.479 --> 01:16:26.159
And so I think other companies see that and they're like, oh shit, nigga, if we like that, yeah, how much would you charge us to do a video for this?
01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:28.479
And um that's you are the Blue Chew guy, too.
01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:29.760
Man, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
01:16:29.920 --> 01:16:37.520
Yeah, you like when even when the regul when the commercial just come on, like I'll just be watching something on on YouTube or something, and it'll come up and it's still you.
01:16:37.600 --> 01:16:43.680
I was like, wait, like it's a it's a different version of it, but it's still or even on TV now, I was like, no, no, no, wait a minute.
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:46.079
So this is the thing I'm still missing.
01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:52.399
The blue like so for the Blue Chew, did you shoot that on your own first and then Blue Chew reached out?
01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:52.800
No.
01:16:53.039 --> 01:16:58.319
Okay, no, um, so even no uh I think my manager reached in.
01:16:58.399 --> 01:16:58.960
No, no, no.
01:16:59.359 --> 01:17:01.760
No, my man, no, they reached out eventually.
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:07.600
Uh hit my manager about like me doing a kind like a uh a sketch for him or a promo for him.
01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:12.159
And so, but the before I did that, I was doing stuff like C and B classics.
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:20.399
And C and B classes were like the uh ODs, the gangster Odies, and I would uh I would rewrite them and write them into like gangster terminology, and that was just on me.
01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:24.640
That was just me and me and Ken wrote them, and we sung them, and we put it out as an infomercial.
01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:26.800
You know, you gotta know my brother, you gotta get your own.
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:27.840
So it was those.
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:31.760
So that it was those, and we was doing like game banging uh OD's.
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:36.479
And so put stuff out like putting stuff like that out there is like commercial, infomercial type stuff.
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:37.520
I did it for the love.
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:38.479
I did it for the culture.
01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:39.680
I love the concept.
01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:41.279
I was seeing you, you know what I'm saying?
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:51.359
You would see all the uh promos on BET growing up, and right, you know what I'm saying, like the uh uh Midnight Love and all the little CDs, the compilation CDs.
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:53.920
You got, yeah, so I did my own version of that.
01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:58.720
That's kind of what had people like, oh okay, this guy can do commercial stuff, even if it's hood.
01:17:58.960 --> 01:17:59.680
You know what I'm saying?
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:01.359
So that's kind of what I did with it.
01:18:01.439 --> 01:18:03.680
And I remember y'all was doing it too.
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:06.800
Like y'all, I mean, like, I remember videos, you, Reggie, yeah.
01:18:07.039 --> 01:18:13.119
I remember we did the whole, we did the whole battles back and forth, me, and me and you, me, U C T, Kanesha Buzz, Arana.
01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:13.680
Yeah, yeah.
01:18:13.920 --> 01:18:16.800
We did us, we did the BT uh hip hop cyber.
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:17.600
Ciphered, yeah.
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:20.479
Even like, so we was all do always doing it.
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:24.880
And I really the only difference is I got to a point where I just stopped not doing it, if that makes sense.
01:18:25.039 --> 01:18:26.079
Stopped not doing it.
01:18:26.159 --> 01:18:27.359
I'm I just kept doing it.
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:29.039
I kept doing it, you know what I'm saying?
01:18:29.199 --> 01:18:36.880
And so, because nothing else was working for me, nothing else was in uh um I was out I was booking stuff, but not nothing crazy.
01:18:37.039 --> 01:18:41.760
I wasn't booking a show, which I would have loved to have done, and I got I got the talent to do it.
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:42.720
I got it, you know what I'm saying?
01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:45.119
So when I see other people doing it, I'm like, oh yeah.
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:50.640
I they first of all, everybody I know that that book selling, I was like, it makes sense.
01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:53.039
And even if it didn't make sense, it made sense for them.
01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:54.640
Like I I love seeing that.
01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:56.000
It just inspires me to keep going.
01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:56.640
You know what I'm saying?
01:18:56.720 --> 01:18:58.239
Because everybody, yeah, your time's gonna come.
01:18:58.319 --> 01:19:00.720
If you keep if you put yourself in a position, it's gonna happen.
01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:02.079
So answer a question.
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:05.920
I didn't um I didn't start off doing Bluetooth videos until they start paying me to do it.
01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:06.560
Got it.
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:09.279
But one, but it was when they first it was like a trial.
01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:10.960
Um it was just like a one-off.
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:13.600
And so I'm like, I'm about I'm about to put my all into this one-off.
01:19:13.680 --> 01:19:14.640
I'm about to make it dope.
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:15.359
You know what I'm saying?
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:21.520
So I started thinking of ways like the wheelchair and stuff like that, and all that, like the different terminology, you gotta brand it.
01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:22.000
You know what I'm saying?
01:19:22.159 --> 01:19:25.760
So like even with the two to max, that's a that's a phrase that I just came up with.
01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:32.079
Well, my brother is a br a phrase my brother used to say or still says, but like, so I took it and made it like a slogan, it made it like a mantra.
01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:32.640
You know what I'm saying?
01:19:32.800 --> 01:19:35.680
So he's he's always he he I say it different now, yeah.
01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:37.359
But he was like, Man, I love you to the max, man.
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:42.239
Hey man, so yeah, she was she was I came outside, man, she ran down the stairs, she was turned up to the max, bro.
01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:42.880
She was tripping.
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:45.439
So now I took that and then you know what I'm saying, to the max.
01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:46.079
To the max.
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:47.199
You're gonna do it, go hard.
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:48.079
Go hard or go home.
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:48.720
That's the phrase.
01:19:48.880 --> 01:19:50.640
Um saying obey your thirst, that's the phrase.
01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:51.680
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:55.840
So that was so I I got I understood that you gotta brand yourself.
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:58.880
You gotta make yourself bigger than your brands to be bigger than who you are.
01:19:59.279 --> 01:19:59.920
You know what I'm saying?
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.439
So And so then how did now the Tubi situation?
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:07.199
Because I seen the the the press with Kev on stage and you and y'all got y'all.
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:09.199
Yeah, y'all got y'all deals with Tubi.
01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:10.079
How did that come about?
01:20:10.319 --> 01:20:12.000
At first, man, it took us three years.
01:20:12.159 --> 01:20:17.039
It took us like because we were trying to get with Tubi, Netflix, and I had a meeting with Netflix four years ago.
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:17.920
You know what I'm saying?
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:19.680
Before the uh after the pandemic.
01:20:19.920 --> 01:20:22.640
Um uh I met with everybody, brother.
01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:24.000
I met with everybody.
01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:28.079
And wasn't nobody all it wasn't nobody rocking with with me, and that's fine.
01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:32.159
It's so many stories about people saying, like, DreamWorks, we know how that came about?
01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:37.600
DreamWorks, I don't know, I don't I we can go to st we can go into the story later, but they got said no.
01:20:37.680 --> 01:20:40.079
Home Depot is Home Depot because they got rejected.
01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:42.880
DreamWorks is is is DreamWorks because they got rejected.
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:45.840
So getting rejected is it's supposed to happen.
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:48.239
The greats, you know what I'm saying, there's a lot.
01:20:48.399 --> 01:20:49.119
You know what I mean?
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:51.439
So McDonald's, in and out.
01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:51.760
Right.
01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:52.720
You know what I'm saying?
01:20:52.960 --> 01:20:59.039
So uh I got rejected so many times that uh it's just gonna feel and it's just gonna make me want to do it more.
01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:02.079
And so with Tubi, it makes sense now.
01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:03.039
I've I've talked to Tubi.
01:21:03.279 --> 01:21:07.760
I can talk to some of the execs from there now, and they're ex they can't grab everybody.
01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:09.279
You gotta you gotta earn it.
01:21:09.840 --> 01:21:12.319
Even if you feel like you earned it, they don't feel like you earned it.
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:16.720
I'm not even talking about Tubi, I'm talking about any any place, any a booker, a promoter, you know what I'm saying?
01:21:17.199 --> 01:21:22.960
So uh well, I was doing, I started shooting, um, I was doing sketches, and then I said I gotta start doing series.
01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:26.239
Because my goal now has always been to do TV and film.
01:21:26.479 --> 01:21:36.479
So now I'm in so I I went back, not went back like a like a downgrade, but I started doing sketches just to build a fan base to show people that I'm funny, to show people that I'm somebody you want to watch and somebody you want to share.
01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:38.000
To showcase what you do.
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:38.479
Yeah, yeah.
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:42.159
So now in the comments, they start asking, man, it's just episode too short.
01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:43.600
That's the that's what I want to hear.
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:47.520
When you start hearing that, then you can start doing longer form content.
01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:50.319
Because a lot of times people start off making a short film.
01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:54.000
I don't think that, but uh Joke Thief came before you was doing IG.
01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:54.560
Absolutely.
01:21:54.640 --> 01:21:55.359
You know what I'm saying?
01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:57.680
I you did Joke Thief, I did Perfect Plan.
01:21:58.000 --> 01:21:58.560
Me and Barry.
01:21:58.720 --> 01:21:58.960
Absolutely.
01:21:59.119 --> 01:22:02.159
I did double negative, these are short films I was doing with no fan base.
01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:17.119
Unless you got somebody promoting it or somebody that's gonna put it into like a film festival for you, and you know what I'm saying, or or or pitch it to Warner Brothers, if you don't have no fan base, especially nowadays, you it ain't no point of making a joke thief or a double negative.
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:20.399
And don't make a short film or a fee, a feature film because you can do it.
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:23.680
I got this, it's it's your it's your it's your baby, it's your story.
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:24.000
Right.
01:22:24.159 --> 01:22:25.039
You know what I'm saying?
01:22:25.680 --> 01:22:29.039
But now if you do a Sheet Wins Now, it's different.
01:22:29.279 --> 01:22:30.000
You know what I'm saying?
01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:34.720
Like I if I did if I did um Lesbian Homie, I just made a series.
01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:37.760
I shot I put all this money into the series in 2019.
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:40.560
How long how sure or how long the series?
01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:41.680
Now or then?
01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:43.439
Uh uh when you f I guess when you first started.
01:22:43.680 --> 01:22:47.840
When I first started doing uh Lesbian Homie, the first episode was like four minutes.
01:22:48.079 --> 01:22:48.399
Okay.
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:49.600
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
01:22:49.760 --> 01:22:56.000
And so what you're saying is people need to build their fan base before they get into doing longer foreign script films.
01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:59.359
You owe to yourself, you owe it to yourself to be more patient.
01:22:59.520 --> 01:23:00.079
You know what I'm saying?
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:10.399
Meaning like don't say, man, I got this feature film, I got this short film, and it's gonna cost me$10,000 to put it, you're gonna put all that money into it unless you got a place to put it to get your money back.
01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:13.199
Or a place to put it or a big name attached to it, right?
01:23:13.359 --> 01:23:14.399
Right, right, right, right, right.
01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:15.840
Yeah, exactly.
01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:19.119
So I didn't have that, so I had to become the big name, you know what I'm saying?
01:23:19.359 --> 01:23:23.039
And I didn't even I I didn't even think that that was something I had to do.
01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:27.039
Because I mean I loved acting, I wanted to be an actor, a leading man, even.
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:29.039
But I didn't but not to be famous.
01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:30.880
This is because I enjoy the art.
01:23:31.119 --> 01:23:34.479
And so me being in front of the camera is what started that.
01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:37.840
And I before that, like the Tiberius is what started everything.
01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:39.920
You know, before that, I was shooting the content.
01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:41.520
I got sketches that I'm not even in it.
01:23:41.680 --> 01:23:44.319
It's just on my page, and I got the homies, and I wrote it, I wrote it for you.
01:23:44.399 --> 01:23:45.039
I wrote it for you.
01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:45.920
I wrote it for you.
01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:55.600
I got I got I got a feature, I got a short film I wrote, a drama, that I wrote for Craig and my homeboy, who's now uh uh uh a leading man, he's doing this thing now.
01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:56.880
He's too big for the project now.
01:23:56.960 --> 01:23:59.039
Wow until you know what I'm saying, and this is my brother.
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:01.119
We came up together, we went to school together, you know what I'm saying?
01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:02.720
But I wouldn't even have him do it now.
01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:05.439
I would have him do it when I when when that's a feature.
01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:10.640
Now, what are your influences uh for this filmmaking, this writing, directing?
01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:12.800
Who do you draw from?
01:24:13.199 --> 01:24:15.199
Spike uh Keenan.
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:18.079
Um Spike, Keenan, Robert Townsend.
01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:19.359
You know what I'm saying?
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:25.279
Uh I remember watching um shit, uh Low Down Dirty Shame.
01:24:25.600 --> 01:24:25.920
Classic.
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:28.319
You know, uh of course F.
01:24:28.479 --> 01:24:31.520
Gary Gray with Friday, John Singleton with Boys in the Hood.
01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:35.600
But like I used to always tell myself, damn man, these guys start cracking when they was 24.
01:24:36.319 --> 01:24:38.319
I didn't start cracking until I was down there 35.
01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:39.039
That's what happens.
01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:39.600
You do that, right?
01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:40.800
But it don't matter.
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:42.000
It don't it don't matter, man.
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:45.600
And um, but uh because but they also got to it faster.
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:48.159
I wasn't in the 24, I was my focus.
01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:49.760
I'm running around 24, man.
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:50.720
I'm I'm up at the bay.
01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:51.920
I'm still trying to make the league.
01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:54.319
I'm trying to focus on a whole different industry.
01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:55.279
So that's why.
01:24:55.520 --> 01:24:59.279
But uh when I finally got focused and I started putting it together, that's when things are happening.
01:24:59.439 --> 01:25:05.920
So um after a while, I started I went through an aggregating company on on the that that can put your stuff on Tubi.
01:25:06.079 --> 01:25:06.560
Homestead.
01:25:06.720 --> 01:25:07.199
Homestead.
01:25:07.840 --> 01:25:08.159
What's the name?
01:25:08.239 --> 01:25:09.199
You said that you went through a what company?
01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:10.239
Aggregating company.
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:13.119
Like a distributor, like a broker, like a like a middleman.
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:13.520
Right.
01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:16.239
Um, and um it's glass slippers and homestead.
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:19.119
They're two companies that work together to get content on Tubi.
01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:22.720
So I went through them for the first five, six um projects.
01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:27.920
Um, from uh Lesbi Homie season two was the first thing I put up there, and season one was still on YouTube.
01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:33.840
You know, and it will it would if you look at the content, that the quality, it's not, you know, I was shooting with the homies.
01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:38.399
And but it's it's it's it's low to you now because of what you shoot.
01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:40.640
But at the time, it was high to the top of the.
01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:41.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:42.640
For sure.
01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:48.479
And um it got me uh looked at the whole crew of stupid, got me uh auditioning for Tyler Perry.
01:25:48.640 --> 01:25:49.199
You know what I'm saying?
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:53.760
Because that project, we did a tour, me, Barry, and Barry forced me to do it in the correction.
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:57.119
He convinced me to do it, then forced me.
01:25:57.279 --> 01:26:00.000
But we did let the whole crew of stupid and that went viral.
01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:02.079
And we did a part two, viral, three.
01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:03.039
I was like, oh shit.
01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:04.560
So now he's he's on the road.
01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:07.199
He's doing, he's doing, he's doing, uh, he's touring.
01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:10.399
You know, he's doing his own thing, but he getting noticed everywhere he goes.
01:26:10.479 --> 01:26:12.399
He in Denver, he in Seattle, he in Florida.
01:26:12.479 --> 01:26:14.640
He like, bruh, they asking about us.
01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:16.479
Bro, you gotta get on stage, bro.
01:26:16.560 --> 01:26:17.439
We gotta get on this road.
01:26:17.520 --> 01:26:20.880
And I was like, man, I ain't really did no time outside of LA.
01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:23.920
They go, Vegas, here and there, you know what I'm saying?
01:26:24.079 --> 01:26:28.000
So when you got when you was different, I was like, oh, London, now he's out there, but it makes you stronger.
01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:28.800
You know what I'm saying?
01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:32.319
Even when I was going, my mom from New York, so I would go, my mom used to live in New York back then.
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:36.079
I would go to New York and uh I couldn't get on at the cellar, you know what I'm saying?
01:26:36.319 --> 01:26:39.920
Uh, you know, uh, so all those places you try to get on, but you can go.
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:43.840
There's so many, there's so many clubs you can hit in New York, and that's how you get strong.
01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:46.720
So me and Craig had thoughts of moving and be bical.
01:26:46.880 --> 01:26:52.800
We're gonna move to get an apartment, one bedroom apartment, you're gonna sleep on the couch, we're gonna be in New York, we're gonna do that circuit for a couple years, get strong.
01:26:53.279 --> 01:26:54.800
It never happened, you know what I'm saying?
01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:56.960
But uh, so now I'm gonna stay.
01:26:57.039 --> 01:27:00.800
I got time, but I got you know I got time in LA, you can't really do no time.
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:07.840
You got five minutes here, seven minutes here, and if you and they love you, and you might get 10 on somebody's birthday show.
01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:08.720
You know what I'm saying?
01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.560
But like, so I know I got I got so I had to start getting my little five minutes ago.
01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:15.039
I got five minutes here, I got five minutes here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, boom.
01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:17.039
And oh shit, I got 38 minutes.
01:27:17.199 --> 01:27:17.680
Okay, shoot.
01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:21.279
Really, really, if I probably shit, nigga, I got a I got an hour.
01:27:21.439 --> 01:27:22.720
But I never had to do an hour.
01:27:22.800 --> 01:27:26.159
I didn't do an hour until I was on roll on the road on my own tour 2019.
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:27.119
You know what I'm saying?
01:27:27.199 --> 01:27:27.680
And it worked out.
01:27:27.760 --> 01:27:28.079
You know what I'm saying?
01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:28.800
So hold on.
01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:32.239
I still want to get, I don't know if we got it all the way, which is we can go back.
01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:33.439
The aggregate.
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:38.079
So you was putting your content on uh through the aggregate to get on Tubi.
01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:39.920
Then how did Tubi reach out to you?
01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:40.479
Yes, sir.
01:27:40.560 --> 01:27:40.800
My bad.
01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:41.359
Nice hour.
01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:43.279
Not so good.
01:27:43.359 --> 01:27:44.000
You all good?
01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:46.960
So uh Homestead Glass Slipper, shout out to them.
01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:48.560
Now we still with Homestead.
01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:54.079
Uh, but uh we put the first episode up there, the first season, and that did cool the first year.
01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:55.039
It was alright.
01:27:55.199 --> 01:27:58.000
Um, and we put it we did a season three.
01:27:58.479 --> 01:27:59.760
Or I I think I did a cuddle.
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:00.239
Season.
01:28:00.319 --> 01:28:01.520
The colour season was a show I did.
01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:03.520
I put it up there and they did all right too.
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:04.479
You know what I'm saying?
01:28:05.119 --> 01:28:07.520
Season three did well.
01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:10.399
And it made season two do well.
01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:12.239
Okay, boom.
01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:13.359
So now I'm doing numbers.
01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:14.800
Now things are starting to look up.
01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:17.600
Oh, I'm on my my I'm in the cool little check now.
01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:22.479
Because it's it's a com it's a cumulative of all these two or three different shows on there.
01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:25.039
Um and then I put season four up there.
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:25.840
Boom.
01:28:26.239 --> 01:28:30.239
Bro, just real quick, here and you got man, you got a lot of content.
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:33.199
Man, you're talking about season four of the eight though.
01:28:33.439 --> 01:28:33.680
Yeah, man.
01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:35.520
I mean, people don't you put out a lot of work.
01:28:38.079 --> 01:28:40.000
I'm literally about to do season five, my nigga.
01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:42.479
Shout out to you, bro.
01:28:42.880 --> 01:28:45.760
So season four, I don't try to get a little bit of a little bit of a yeah.
01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:47.359
Whatever you want, bro, we don't get it.
01:28:48.800 --> 01:28:49.359
Yes, sir, yes, sir.
01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:53.520
Season four, season four, and then so mind you, my manager Dame, shout out to Dame.
01:28:53.680 --> 01:28:56.960
He's been reaching out to Tubi for years, and we met guys.
01:28:57.039 --> 01:29:00.239
We I had a meeting with Tubi, but he on the he's on the finance side.
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:02.319
He's not on the green light, greenlit side.
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:13.039
So he's everybody we talked to, even whether it's from Netflix or w whether it's from YouTube, I mean not YouTube, but Tubi, they're never in a position to where they were like, yeah, we're gonna walk your project in and just go.
01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:23.760
So we not until recently, recently, meaning like within this year, we finally got somebody to sit down with a Zoom call and have a conversation.
01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:30.159
But now at this point, now it's too it's 2025, we got I got season one, two, and three.
01:29:30.560 --> 01:29:32.159
And I'm about to put season four on there.
01:29:32.239 --> 01:29:42.479
So I got season one, two, and three of Les Me Home, and I got Cuddle season, that season, season one of that, and I made a uh uh Whole Crew Stupid, uh kind of like a uh a variety show.
01:29:43.119 --> 01:29:43.920
You know what I'm saying?
01:29:44.239 --> 01:29:46.000
I did one season of that, that's on there too.
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:47.439
So now it's five titles on there.
01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:48.880
And they you know what I'm saying?
01:29:48.960 --> 01:29:56.720
So now they're seeing, okay, you got you're you're you're now you're creating you know you're creating a shows that you're putting on our network.
01:29:56.880 --> 01:29:58.479
Now we're gonna sit down and talk to you.
01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:00.720
And now we won't season five.
01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:02.239
Oh, oh, we gotta do that.
01:30:03.039 --> 01:30:05.039
I don't know if I ain't really want to do season five.
01:30:05.119 --> 01:30:06.159
That's what we won't, man.
01:30:06.319 --> 01:30:06.800
We like it.
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:07.600
You know what I'm saying?
01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:12.720
So, but and the numbers are due, they're just doing well on Tubi, too, where they like it makes sense to do a season five.
01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:13.760
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:20.319
So you still uh you're doing you still for a lot of projects, you still do a lot of self-investing, or do you reach out to other investors?
01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:25.039
So this content, this this season we just did laugh at you in, yeah, that's self-funded.
01:30:25.359 --> 01:30:27.039
I had to have to eat that one.
01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:32.800
But it's worth it because like I say, I believe in myself, and at that point, I'm in a I'm blessed to be in a position to do that.
01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:36.000
You know, you don't ever you ever you don't ever want to use your own money.
01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:44.399
But at this point, but but if you have to, you don't want to, if you have to, yeah, and and I feel like it it'd be a return.
01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:49.600
Yeah, I have to ask you too, what what goes into your ideas for casting?
01:30:49.840 --> 01:31:00.159
Because you work with uh you work with some of the same people, but a lot of these people, I don't know how much training they had before you started working with them and you, you know, just being in your projects, it helped.
01:31:00.239 --> 01:31:01.199
You you saw something in them.
01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:02.960
He's like, how big were the yams?
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:11.840
Oh, no, so look, it's a it's a criteria, and just to be honest, um, so you it's categories.
01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:14.640
There's people who I I'll start with the women.
01:31:14.800 --> 01:31:21.680
Um, this women who are super talented as actresses, and you'll be like, damn, and they're beautiful, all of them are beautiful.
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:22.319
You know what I'm saying?
01:31:22.399 --> 01:31:23.199
That's a plus.
01:31:23.439 --> 01:31:24.880
But uh, but she got chops.
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:26.960
She actually, oh, oh, she got an agent.
01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:27.680
Oh, she worked.
01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:28.960
Oh, she got oh, she got cracking.
01:31:29.119 --> 01:31:29.359
Right, right.
01:31:29.680 --> 01:31:35.439
And she over here, she's trying to build her pro her profile because a lot of these managers and agents are saying, you gotta get your social media up.
01:31:35.680 --> 01:31:36.640
I know, you know what I'm saying?
01:31:37.039 --> 01:31:38.319
Zoe Kravitz don't have to.
01:31:38.560 --> 01:31:39.680
She's already cracking, she's gone.
01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:40.239
Right, right, right.
01:31:40.479 --> 01:31:42.800
Tessa Thompson gone, Tiana Taylor is gone.
01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:45.840
But you gotta get your, and you are just as dope as they are.
01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:47.760
But you gotta get your social media going.
01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:54.319
And not that's what everyone says, or you or you can just be so dope and you can kill your audition and then get on that way.
01:31:54.640 --> 01:31:55.760
That's also an option, too.
01:31:55.920 --> 01:31:56.239
That's a fact.
01:31:56.399 --> 01:31:58.159
Never that's never not gonna be an option in my opinion.
01:31:58.319 --> 01:31:58.479
Right.
01:31:58.720 --> 01:32:01.439
But the the other option that helps is the social media.
01:32:01.680 --> 01:32:02.319
You know what I'm saying?
01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:09.199
So um there's some women that are that are super talented, they got chops, and they and they look great on camera.
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:14.000
And then you got girls who don't the chops ain't that strong, but they look great on camera.
01:32:14.079 --> 01:32:15.119
They hella yammed up.
01:32:15.279 --> 01:32:16.000
You know what I'm saying?
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:16.960
You know what I'm saying?
01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:17.920
Yeah, crazy.
01:32:18.479 --> 01:32:19.680
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:32:20.800 --> 01:32:21.600
You know what I'm saying?
01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:24.640
Um, and uh and that helps.
01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:29.600
And a lot of the for me, and they cooperative.
01:32:30.239 --> 01:32:31.279
They got good energy.
01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:33.840
I don't think I I don't think there's anybody I shoot.
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:39.439
If you see her shooting with me, she's in pocket, she got good energy, she don't never be disrespectful, and vice versa.
01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:39.760
Right.
01:32:39.920 --> 01:32:40.800
I it goes both ways.
01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:47.439
I'm never that weirdo nigga that's gonna fuck up the the chemistry between me and the person and off all on camera or off camera.
01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:49.760
So uh uh my uh any of you've been on sale with me, man.
01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:50.159
Absolutely.
01:32:51.680 --> 01:32:57.760
It's not gonna be no weirdness, it's not gonna be uh no uh ulterior motives, you know what I'm saying?
01:32:57.920 --> 01:32:59.680
No jealousy, no egos.
01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:00.800
I don't I don't like that.
01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:08.720
So uh I mean so um so sometimes you see me with a woman that not the greatest actress, but she I promise you she is cool.
01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:11.359
She comes, she pulls up, she don't complain.
01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:12.079
Professional.
01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:12.880
She's professional.
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:14.720
She gets right eventually.
01:33:14.960 --> 01:33:15.439
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:16.319
And she's gonna get better.
01:33:16.399 --> 01:33:18.319
Yeah, if she but if she if she wants to.
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:19.359
You know what I'm saying?
01:33:19.439 --> 01:33:21.760
So and that's why I work with who I work with.
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:24.960
Because sometimes you're like, damn, I would love to work with her, man, man, but she's flaky, man.
01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:30.239
She just uh her energy is not saying she cool, but she just professionalism all over.
01:33:30.720 --> 01:33:32.159
Yeah, so it's a real thing.
01:33:32.399 --> 01:33:34.560
You'll get you'll get more work if they like you.
01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:38.720
Even the people who be like, oh, he's an asshole, she's an asshole, but they work and they super popular.
01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:39.840
That's only gonna last so long.
01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:41.199
That might last 20 years.
01:33:41.680 --> 01:33:42.880
That might last 30.
01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:48.800
But eventually when shit just starts to crumble and you start seeing your friend in the round because they wasn't really your friend, because you wasn't really their friend.
01:33:49.199 --> 01:33:49.920
You know what I'm saying?
01:33:50.079 --> 01:33:58.000
So um the casting with the fellas usually is guys I've known over the years, comedy, and super talented dudes.
01:33:58.079 --> 01:33:58.640
You know what I'm saying?
01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:00.560
So I mean I know what I'm getting from you, from BT.
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:01.359
You know what I'm saying?
01:34:01.520 --> 01:34:04.159
So when um That's why I promise you, I hit you.
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:05.359
I said, let me call BT for this.
01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:06.159
Right, right, right.
01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:06.800
You know what I'm saying?
01:34:06.880 --> 01:34:12.399
Like, it don't make sense because we've been known each other for so long, but we should have been in fucking 50 projects together.
01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:13.039
Right, right, right.
01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:13.600
You know what I'm saying?
01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:15.439
And too soon come, soon come.
01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:18.720
But like, um, that's what it was, and it's it's like a cheat card.
01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:20.000
I know so many talented dudes.
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:20.800
You know what I'm saying?
01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:26.800
Uh bruh, but you when I when I when people people talk to me about you, like they don't even know that I know you.
01:34:27.039 --> 01:34:33.039
And they'll it like and I show them uh I think I showed them like a uh an old video of you on stage, they're like, that's him.
01:34:33.199 --> 01:34:37.439
Like you a real actor, like you a real a person that can be anything.
01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:43.359
And um when I watch when I watch Melvin, bruh, I be forgetting it's you, dog.
01:34:43.520 --> 01:34:50.800
Nah, I'll be like, man, this dude really he is this nigga from fucking uh from uh Queens.
01:34:51.039 --> 01:35:00.239
Yeah like And it's it's so dope I remember you I remember your jokes on stage and and how you just you did how you just transformed into whatever character you need to be.
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:01.680
That's that's real performance to me.
01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:02.800
Anyhow, thank you, man.
01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:03.199
Appreciate it.
01:35:03.359 --> 01:35:05.920
Of course, but I'm I'm motivated, I'm inspired all the time.
01:35:06.079 --> 01:35:07.039
Don't do it, no, yeah, yeah.
01:35:07.279 --> 01:35:14.800
I don't want to go but like dog, and so uh when I look at certain people, I know I'm sure we gotta go.
01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:16.640
Yeah, we got yeah, yeah, damn.
01:35:16.720 --> 01:35:17.199
You know what I'm saying?
01:35:17.279 --> 01:35:19.439
But uh uh, yeah, dog.
01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:22.159
So um you asked me about the.
01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:24.239
I know you you just told me about the casting.
01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:24.800
Yeah, okay.
01:35:25.279 --> 01:35:26.479
We gotta get to this game, nigga.
01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:27.920
Oh, he got 50 more questions.
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:29.039
Oh, yeah.
01:35:29.119 --> 01:35:31.680
Yeah, yeah, we got a game real quick that we're gonna do real quick.
01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:32.000
Yeah.
01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:34.640
Because we got two other segments, and we gotta get out of there.
01:35:34.880 --> 01:35:35.199
Oh shit.
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:38.399
Now, you have been more than gracious, brother.
01:35:39.439 --> 01:35:40.319
We need a game, baby.
01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:40.960
Inspire me.
01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:42.960
Trust me, bro.
01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:45.520
We got a game on this show called Kill It or Let Live.
01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:46.960
Okay, Kill It or Let Live.
01:35:47.039 --> 01:35:47.920
I'm gonna throw out a topic.
01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:52.000
You gonna say whether or not we should kill it, you're not messing with it, or let it live.
01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:52.640
It's all good.
01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:53.199
Oh shit.
01:35:53.439 --> 01:35:53.600
Okay?
01:35:54.079 --> 01:35:54.800
Buckle up, brother.
01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:55.199
Kill it?
01:35:55.439 --> 01:35:56.399
Oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:57.439
Buckle up, brother.
01:35:57.840 --> 01:35:59.199
Kill it or let live.
01:35:59.439 --> 01:36:02.399
Responding to negative comments on social media.
01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:04.880
Uh so look so hold on.
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:07.600
So you I gotta find out what kill it means and what let live means.
01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:12.399
So kill it is you not messing, like responding, like so kill it means you're not messing with it.
01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:14.720
If you say kill it, like don't, like, don't respond.
01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:15.439
Okay, okay.
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:19.680
Let it live mean, yeah, I'm gonna respond to these negative comments on social media.
01:36:19.840 --> 01:36:23.600
So kill it or let live, responding to negative comments on social media.
01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:24.800
Kill that shit, bro.
01:36:25.600 --> 01:36:26.880
Um kill it, but yeah.
01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:28.000
Okay, man.
01:36:28.239 --> 01:36:29.359
Kill it or let live.
01:36:29.439 --> 01:36:32.800
Having a threesome with your girl, but the third person is a guy.
01:36:33.279 --> 01:36:34.399
Oh, kill it, my nigga.
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:35.680
Absolutely.
01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:37.199
Yeah, kill it, man.
01:36:37.680 --> 01:36:38.079
Absolutely, bro.
01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:39.119
Kill it or live.
01:36:39.279 --> 01:36:40.079
No judgment, fellas.
01:36:40.239 --> 01:36:40.720
You know what I'm saying?
01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:42.239
But that ain't me.
01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:43.680
Kill it or let live.
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:51.600
Having a hundred million followers on every social media platform, but you gotta participate in a diddy party.
01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:52.880
Absolutely kill it, man.
01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:55.039
Can't do it, won't do it.
01:36:55.119 --> 01:37:00.000
And I promise you, if niggas know me for real, that ain't my that ain't my bag.
01:37:00.079 --> 01:37:02.640
Shout out to anybody that might have been to a Diddy party.
01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:03.279
Here's the thing.
01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:04.960
I would have gone to a Diddy party back in the day.
01:37:05.119 --> 01:37:05.760
No, would you?
01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:07.600
Yeah, before you, who wouldn't have?
01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:10.000
I've I've been to a couple, but I didn't know.
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:11.359
Yeah, but here's the thing.
01:37:11.520 --> 01:37:12.079
Here's the thing.
01:37:12.479 --> 01:37:17.439
I know guys who've been there at Diddy parties, but here's the thing, man.
01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:18.399
Hey, hey, hey.
01:37:18.800 --> 01:37:23.920
100%, but there's not it's it's impossible for me to do any goofy shit, bro.
01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:27.439
Like, I promise you, I don't got no skeletons on me.
01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:28.479
Even, you know what I'm saying?
01:37:28.640 --> 01:37:29.039
That's a blessing.
01:37:29.199 --> 01:37:29.920
I don't got no skeletons on me.
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:31.119
You ain't never cheated on your lady?
01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:32.079
Whoa.
01:37:32.319 --> 01:37:32.960
Oh, okay.
01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:36.880
No, no, no.
01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:38.560
Yeah, but I'm also transparent too.
01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:39.279
Oh, you're married.
01:37:39.439 --> 01:37:40.000
Yeah, yeah, I'm married.
01:37:40.399 --> 01:37:41.119
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:43.039
I'm saying, but I'm saying back in the day, I ain't talking about many.
01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:44.000
But no, no, no.
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:46.000
Me and my lady be solid, man.
01:37:46.079 --> 01:37:46.239
Okay.
01:37:46.399 --> 01:37:47.359
Um, no, super solid.
01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:48.479
But before the marriage.
01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:49.840
But here's the thing, man.
01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.399
Uh I guess that's the skeleton no more.
01:37:54.560 --> 01:37:56.479
Because I'm a transparent nigga, man.
01:37:56.640 --> 01:38:00.560
I I don't, I yeah, uh, no skeleton.
01:38:00.640 --> 01:38:06.560
No, skeletons meaning like it's gonna kill my career or something that I'm like, oh no, I don't want nobody to hush me.
01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:08.239
I don't got no hush money for nobody.
01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:08.720
Right.
01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:09.439
You know what I'm saying?
01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:11.840
And not no judgment, I don't judge people, man.
01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:13.680
Four people is human and they do their thing.
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:14.000
Right, right.
01:38:14.159 --> 01:38:16.880
But like, I'm not, I'm not, I don't need to be famous that bad at all.
01:38:16.960 --> 01:38:21.359
So I don't care nothing about no Diddy, no, no, no lotion, no, I'm not waking up.
01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:22.399
I'm not waking up sore.
01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:26.000
If I'm waking up sore, it's it's a problem for everybody in it.
01:38:26.800 --> 01:38:32.479
I'm the type of nigga that if me and you scrubbing and y'all got the cameras out talking about Warstorm, I'm trying to knock you up, I'm on y'all niggas.
01:38:53.119 --> 01:38:55.119
I got a cemetery and my goddamn closet.
01:38:58.560 --> 01:38:59.359
I'll put it in the business.
01:38:59.600 --> 01:39:00.960
I don't got no skeletons no more.
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:01.279
Right.
01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:03.439
Kill it or let live.
01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:04.479
This is the last one.
01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:06.000
Kill it or let live.
01:39:06.239 --> 01:39:12.319
You get to star in the upcoming Medea Goes to Space movie.
01:39:12.479 --> 01:39:14.479
But you got to wear that dress.
01:39:14.880 --> 01:39:16.079
Come on, man, kill it, man.
01:39:16.479 --> 01:39:17.520
You're not gonna kill it, man.
01:39:18.319 --> 01:39:18.880
Here's the thing.
01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:20.159
Here's the thing, bro.
01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:21.840
Uh high school.
01:39:22.319 --> 01:39:24.000
Just a once again.
01:39:24.319 --> 01:39:28.399
Nah, I work with Tyler brother, uh Sir Brother Perry, Sir Perry, Mr.
01:39:28.560 --> 01:39:30.319
Perry, man, and it was a great experience.
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:30.640
Okay.
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:31.760
You know what I'm saying?
01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:32.640
It was a great experience, man.
01:39:32.720 --> 01:39:33.199
I hadn't.
01:39:33.439 --> 01:39:34.800
Did he invite you to his mansion?
01:39:34.880 --> 01:39:35.359
No, he didn't.
01:39:35.920 --> 01:39:36.000
Okay.
01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:36.479
You know what I'm saying?
01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:38.720
Shout out to Brothers.
01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:39.359
Brothers, yep.
01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:39.840
Yeah, brothers.
01:39:40.159 --> 01:39:41.039
Shout out to my nigga Barry, man.
01:39:41.119 --> 01:39:41.199
Me.
01:39:41.680 --> 01:39:42.640
But that's a killer, you say?
01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:43.680
I mean, yeah, I'm killing it.
01:39:43.840 --> 01:39:44.000
Okay.
01:39:44.079 --> 01:39:44.479
Here's the thing.
01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:52.720
And real quick, I remember, bro, I'm a 90s, I'm an 80s baby, but I grew up in the 90s, and I would have definitely done Shine.
01:39:53.359 --> 01:39:54.560
I definitely would have done Wanda.
01:39:54.880 --> 01:39:55.680
You know what I'm saying?
01:39:55.840 --> 01:39:56.000
Yeah.
01:39:56.239 --> 01:39:57.199
So that was then.
01:39:57.279 --> 01:39:58.159
I'm 16.
01:39:58.319 --> 01:39:58.560
Yeah.
01:39:58.720 --> 01:39:59.279
You know what I'm saying?
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:01.520
Now I can't see myself putting a dress on.
01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:01.920
Yeah.
01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:03.439
Um, now here's the thing.
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:10.399
If somebody put a dress on right now, one of y'all three put a dress on right now to do a character, to do a Miss Doubtfire or Wanda, I'm not tripping.
01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:11.439
I know y'all niggas, man.
01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:11.600
Right.
01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:12.239
You know what I'm saying?
01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:13.680
And if y'all weird, y'all weird.
01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:14.399
You know what I'm saying?
01:40:14.640 --> 01:40:16.079
But y'all not weird because y'all put the dress on.
01:40:16.239 --> 01:40:16.720
Y'all weird because y'all.
01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:21.119
Because if you put the dress on for the sake of, like, I don't think Martin's weird for being Shenane.
01:40:21.439 --> 01:40:21.600
Right.
01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:21.920
Right, right.
01:40:22.159 --> 01:40:22.960
I think, you know what I'm saying?
01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:26.640
So if that happened today, I'm not thinking he's weird.
01:40:27.359 --> 01:40:28.399
It's a hilarious character.
01:40:28.640 --> 01:40:31.520
Anyone that's putting a dress on, you're not weird, okay?
01:40:31.680 --> 01:40:33.359
You are a normal person.
01:40:35.279 --> 01:40:35.600
Right.
01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:40.960
We're trying to stay uncancelled out of this.
01:40:41.600 --> 01:40:42.319
No, no, no, no.
01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:44.159
I'm not saying you're weird for putting the dress on.
01:40:44.239 --> 01:40:46.000
I'm saying that don't make you weird.
01:40:46.159 --> 01:40:47.439
You being weird makes you weird.
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:48.399
Right.
01:40:48.720 --> 01:40:53.039
Like, for example, someone like, man, uh, who will put the dress on, man?
01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:58.960
And they don't want to do it, but they do it because, man, I'm being the opportunity, those that's weird to me.
01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:04.800
But if you put the dress on for the sake of comedy, for the sake of the for the joke, for the bit, for the performance, I don't think, yeah.
01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:07.359
That's what I mean when I say that's crazy.
01:41:07.520 --> 01:41:08.800
I ain't gonna get kill it canceled.
01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:09.680
Don't cancel none of us.
01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:11.600
I don't judge you for it.
01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:14.720
I'm saying, but just do it for the right reasons, in my opinion.
01:41:14.960 --> 01:41:15.199
Yeah.
01:41:15.359 --> 01:41:17.600
Uh top five uh black hood movies.
01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:18.239
Top five.
01:41:18.319 --> 01:41:20.479
Ooh, I'm gonna need that one next time.
01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:22.399
Uh top five black hood movies.
01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:22.800
Yeah.
01:41:22.960 --> 01:41:23.119
Oh.
01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:26.319
I want to uh have a conversation with you about genres.
01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:27.199
That'll be another time.
01:41:27.279 --> 01:41:29.680
But like I feel like you're gonna be.
01:41:31.600 --> 01:41:33.680
Top five uh yeah, hood movies.
01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:36.880
Um damn, so many of them.
01:41:37.039 --> 01:41:40.159
Not in the grander scale of things, it's not, but like for us, yeah.
01:41:40.399 --> 01:41:41.039
It's a lot.
01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:47.680
Uh Boys, Boys in the Hood, um, Menace.
01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:48.159
Yeah.
01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:55.840
Uh Hood, like, gotta be not gangster, but they gotta be drama.
01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:57.520
They have to be drama, they can be comedy, too.
01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:01.520
They could be comedy, they could be horror, they could be best rom-com of all time is Boomerang.
01:42:02.640 --> 01:42:03.119
Facts.
01:42:03.279 --> 01:42:03.520
Yes.
01:42:03.760 --> 01:42:04.079
I agree.
01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:09.039
I feel like if Boomerang, and that's the beauty of it, and I'm not just saying this because y'all hear, I promise you.
01:42:09.439 --> 01:42:13.199
If Boomerang cracked off right now, all four of us should be in it.
01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:13.840
Absolutely.
01:42:14.079 --> 01:42:14.560
You know what I'm saying?
01:42:14.640 --> 01:42:21.680
There's a lot of other uh dope ass characters, dope ass actors and comedians that deserve to be in it too, but we're four of the guys that should be in it.
01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:28.239
And I'm not just saying, I promise you, I promise when y'all first saw this kill it, and I saw that y'all three were doing this show, I was like, huh.
01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:30.560
And I promise, the first thing in my mind was the story I told you.
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:30.800
Yeah.
01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:32.560
I said, bro, and I'm always love you for that.
01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:32.960
Oh man.
01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:33.359
You know what I'm saying?
01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:34.880
For sure, for sure.
01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:35.680
You know what I'm saying?
01:42:35.760 --> 01:42:40.880
And I remember your journey, man, from what from my perspective, your journey from my perspective.
01:42:41.039 --> 01:42:47.920
So everybody needs a it's the best show, best rom com facts in the history of rom-coms, bro.
01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:48.239
Yes, boom.
01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:49.840
So that's that's three for me.
01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:52.640
Um so many.
01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:58.960
I I we say I'm black because because of course X, Malcolm X is probably my favorite film.
01:42:59.119 --> 01:43:05.119
So do we put that in a it's not a hood movie, but hood because it's black, and hood because we from the hood, or oh Touche.
01:43:05.279 --> 01:43:05.680
Uh Yoko.
01:43:06.479 --> 01:43:07.439
We can put X in the Hood.
01:43:07.600 --> 01:43:07.840
Yeah.
01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:08.159
Yeah.
01:43:08.239 --> 01:43:09.199
Oh yeah, Malcolm Little.
01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:09.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:11.279
Yeah, it was for sure hood.
01:43:11.520 --> 01:43:11.680
Yeah.
01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:12.239
It was a full.
01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.199
Yeah, even if it got killed by niggas.
01:43:15.279 --> 01:43:15.920
They don't get too much.
01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:17.279
Get your hand out of my pocket.
01:43:19.680 --> 01:43:20.479
And it's legendary.
01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:21.279
Get your hand out of my pocket.
01:43:22.319 --> 01:43:23.439
That line was by Wendell Pierce.
01:43:23.520 --> 01:43:23.600
Okay.
01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:24.399
English out.
01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:26.640
Yeah, I was like, Oh shit, Wendell Pierce shot.
01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:27.439
Oh, it was.
01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:29.840
So uh Malcolm X.
01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:32.000
Uh damn, it's so many men.
01:43:32.159 --> 01:43:33.359
So one more.
01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:34.640
Uh one more.
01:43:34.800 --> 01:43:35.119
Okay.
01:43:35.520 --> 01:43:38.159
This is you, I know we're in the time crack.
01:43:38.479 --> 01:43:39.039
You gotta be.
01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:41.680
I'm one of the niggas that it's hard to decide.
01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:44.319
Uh, I gotta give me an East Coast in ears.
01:43:44.560 --> 01:43:47.680
Let me do it's out of the New Jack Payton Full.
01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:48.720
Yeah, ooh.
01:43:48.800 --> 01:43:49.840
Uh or juice.
01:43:51.119 --> 01:43:53.039
I'm gonna say I'm gonna say paydenful.
01:43:53.359 --> 01:43:53.840
Okay, I love it.
01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:54.159
Yeah, yeah.
01:43:55.199 --> 01:43:55.279
Okay.
01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:56.560
Independent route, man.
01:43:57.359 --> 01:43:58.319
Hey man, let people know.
01:43:58.479 --> 01:43:59.359
What you want this nigga.
01:43:59.920 --> 01:44:02.800
No, I was just gonna say tell people uh what it looks like for you killing it.
01:44:03.039 --> 01:44:03.760
Oh, yeah, yeah, my bad.
01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:08.720
So, so, so uh what you have it exactly how you want it, career-wise.
01:44:08.880 --> 01:44:10.479
What does killing it look like to you?
01:44:10.640 --> 01:44:11.359
Are you directing?
01:44:11.439 --> 01:44:12.159
Are you producing?
01:44:12.399 --> 01:44:13.279
You got a full studio?
01:44:13.359 --> 01:44:13.920
What does it look like?
01:44:14.159 --> 01:44:15.600
Full studio for sure.
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:22.319
And and I'm in I I've been nervous to even uh I feel like I need more content before I do a full studio.
01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:27.119
And in the full studio, Barry Brewery says something to me that stuck to me, stuck with me.
01:44:27.279 --> 01:44:30.880
Um don't you don't do a studio for you, you do a studio for others.
01:44:31.199 --> 01:44:31.680
You know what I'm saying?
01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:32.399
For everybody.
01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:37.199
Because I can't, I can I will I want to make 10 10 projects a month.
01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:38.880
I can't do it by myself.
01:44:40.159 --> 01:44:43.359
So if I got a studio, so if I got a studio, I got everything, you know what I'm saying?
01:44:43.439 --> 01:44:49.600
If we got scripts and we got we got manpower and some capital to pay these people to to shoot this content, that's what I want to do.
01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:55.760
So the goal is killing it for me is have an opportunity for everybody that got that got content and stories they want to tell.
01:44:56.720 --> 01:45:00.800
If I'm the caveat, if I'm the the engine that people go through to do that, then so be it.
01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:01.359
You know what I'm saying?
01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:02.159
So that's killing for me.
01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:06.159
Let people know what what projects you got out and where they can find you.
01:45:06.479 --> 01:45:18.000
Man, so so big job, all platforms, 2Gs, B-I-G-G, J-A-H, on YouTube, Facebook, uh, uh, Twitter, um, IG, um, Snapchat, uh, TikTok, everybody.
01:45:18.239 --> 01:45:19.039
All that, all that.
01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:19.680
LinkedIn.
01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:21.439
Now, um, and uh, I got Laugh.
01:45:21.600 --> 01:45:24.079
Laugh is a show that we'll be um dropping next month.
01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:27.039
Uh Laugh is uh it's a new series I'm doing.
01:45:27.359 --> 01:45:29.760
Um, yeah, I can't wait to put that out, man.
01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:32.000
Uh Les Me Homie season five is coming.
01:45:32.159 --> 01:45:32.800
There you go, man.
01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:34.000
Hey man.
01:45:34.239 --> 01:45:34.960
Go on Tubi.
01:45:35.119 --> 01:45:38.479
Watch all season one through five one through four of Les Me Homie right now, please.
01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:39.520
Hey man, watch that.
01:45:39.600 --> 01:45:40.880
Watch it flight before Christmas.
01:45:40.960 --> 01:45:41.680
I know that's out right now.
01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:42.960
Flight before Christmas, thank you.
01:45:43.039 --> 01:45:43.760
Yeah, no doubt.
01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:46.159
Um, and man, make sure you like, comment, subscribe.
01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:48.560
We appreciate you for tapping in with the culture.
01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:49.279
You know what I'm saying?
01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:52.479
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