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Hello everyone, and welcome back to
the late's edition of The Jakes Take Jack
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and Our podcast, the fifth Annamery
three season. I'm your host, Jacob
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Alisher, the chief consecutucer and writer
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star ratings. Please download this episode
and more. I'm very excited welcome one
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of my favorite challenges of this new
generation. You've probably seen him on Netflix
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The Circle and more recently two seasons
of the Challenge The Spies, Lies and
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Allies talk about aboutful and Battle for
New Champion, and as of today he
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has won three dailies and one wand
elimination. And after this recording, he
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has over one hundred and nine thousand
Instagram followers and one hundred ten thousand Snapchat
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followers. So please me welcome ed. He's the two the podcasts, Jake,
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thank you for having me, rother
pleasure to be here. I'm excited
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to get into it and start talking
the challenge baby. Absolutely absolutely, and
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and I just want to let you
know you're one of my favorite movies for
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this from the thirties, so there's
a lot of people. So I'm just
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I'm also doing as well, Pauline, Natalie j they all brought me it
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so awesome. I love that.
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
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And this is a special episode too, two hundred and seventy five. Whoa
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holy smoke salute, congratulations, thank
you. So that's for my friends.
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Hears for that. That is awesome. Alright, y, ed, So
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let's get started on your reality TV
journals. So when you get interested in
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Reality Intelligent and how did that patch
it involve a design to pursue and to
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actually audition for a chef. I'll
tell you what. It all happened completely
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by accident. I did not watch
really much TV at all, definitely not
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much reality TV, and it was
crazy. Just one day somebody stumbled onto
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my Instagram. I think they sent
him message to myself and my brother.
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They were like, hey, we're
coming down with this new show on Netflix.
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I'm a scout in the Philadelphia area
trying to find some local people here.
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We came across you guys on Instagram. You guys seem like fun people.
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You seem silly at the time,
I was not like anything big,
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just your normal I guess, well
in college at the time. Yeah,
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I think I had two thousand Instagram
followers, like normal college kid, and
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I don't know how they stumbled across, but they were like, yeah,
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we saw your page and I just
post a lot of dumb stuff. It's
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just really goofy, and they're like, hey, you seem like a fun
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guy. We'd love to have you
apply for this show called The Circle.
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And I'm like, no way,
this can't be legit, like this new
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upcoming show. It's nobody's ever heard
of it. So I messaged back,
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I'm like, yeah, send me
an application, thinking they're not going to
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send an application. Sure enough,
they did. It was a couple of
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questions. I filled it out.
They're like, hey, we'd love to
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interview you. I'm like, okay, this looks pretty real. Uh So
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I had an online interview. I
had an interview in Philly, and I
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guess that went well because they're like, ed, we want to fly out
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to LA for the final interview.
I was like, no way. So
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it was completely by accident. Wasn't
looking for it at all. It just
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happened to fall into my lap and
I don't know. God works some mysterious
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ways. I guess that was his
plan. He wanted. He wanted that
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on reality TV, so it happened. It was like I couldn't you know,
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I won't. I probably wouldn't have
got it if I went looking for
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it, you know, absolutely absolutely
though not only did you were on reality
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TV, but your mom was all
you also competed with your mom too,
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that's right. So what was your
reaction when he said, oh, by
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the way, ading congratus, he
made it to the circle, but we're
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carrying you with your mom. Yeah, that was It was a moment of
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like, wow, that's a credible
and also like oh, man, like
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now I'm gonna be cooped up with
my mom in the same room for god
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knows how long this game's gonna go
on. But it was great to have
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somebody, you know, there with
me through the experience, especially somebody I'm
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close with, Like my mom is
my number one, so having her with
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me, like it was just it
made it a lot better. It made
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it, you know, not,
as I guess, lonely because obviously the
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circle, you're just alone in a
room, like nobody to talk to,
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You're just staring at the walls all
day pretty much hoping a conversation pops up
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so to have somebody there and it
be my mom. It was. It
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was a very special thing that we
got to do together. And absolutely too
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because I feel a lot because if
you look at Survivor, if they're on
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the beach and even though they're paranoid, you look at the challenge here you're
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all together and would say with big
Brother, the like with the Circle,
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it's like you're's just you and you
alone, which is like, definitely,
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it feels like passed away. It's
an I always explain to people that,
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like it's a it's an experience like
no other, because sometimes people will like,
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you know, they'll be alone,
but it's like I got my phone
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to play on, or I got
some TV to watch, or you know,
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I can go on the computer or
walk outside and check out the day.
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But like we couldn't open a window
to our little apartment. We were
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in no TVs, no clocks,
no radios, like no nothing. It
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was just sit there in silence all
day and hope you have a chat pop
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up because you were just biting at
the bit, like waiting to talk to
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somebody. And it feels like,
even though you got so you're not you
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guys are not the only people,
but you're how you mentioned your brother Mitchell
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also was in the last the following
season, So did you did you and
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your mom give him advice recording the
Circle? Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah.
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So they casted us for the first
season, and then he ended up
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doing the second season, so we
have pretty much the whole family on TV
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now, and we gave him a
little insiders scoop, you know, to
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try to get him a little bit
more prepared to get the job done,
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since obviously me and Tam didn't end
up with the outcome that we wanted.
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I mean, it was the cars
were a little stacked against us, us
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being the last people to actually come
onto the game, so at that point
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it was tough to try and make
relationships where people had already formed relationships for
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days and weeks before that. So
I think we did as good as we
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could have done given the circumstances.
And Mitch had another kind of He came
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in a little bit earlier than we
did, but still he wasn't in there
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from the beginning, which I think
kind of hurt our chances. It definitely
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did. I wish I would have
been in there sooner, you know,
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from the get go, And we
tried to explain that to Mitch. But
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you don't get to pick when you
go in. It's just you're thrown in
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and you don't know when it could
be the beginning, could be the end.
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You have no idea. I totally
agree. And now you are also
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a Trailblazer as well, because you're
also the first Circle cast member to cross
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over to MTD's the Challenge. So
when did he hear about the challenge?
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And when were You're like, okay, I'm gamen. Yeah that's right.
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So, like I said before,
I really didn't watch much TV, like
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at all. So I came home
from the Circle and once that came out,
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it was way bigger than I expected. So many people watched the Circle
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and I got tons of messages from
like friends, family, fans, and
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they all kept saying, like,
Ed, you did great on the Circle,
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but like the Challenge, you would
probably do really well on that because
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I was a big workout guy.
I competed in college sports. I did
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sports my whole life. I was
big in the fitness. I have a
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pretty smart mind too, so everybody, I guess saw that and we're like,
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oh, we want to see how
this guy would do on the challenge.
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So I had personal the person reach
out and be like, oh,
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Ed, we really think you would
do great on the challenge. At the
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time, I had never watched an
episode of the Challenge. I just kept
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saying, Oh, yeah, I'll
have to check it out. I'll think
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about applying. Yeah, that'd be
great. I would love to one day.
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And I didn't really know what it
was. A couple months go by,
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and who reaches out to me but
the Challenge. I get a message
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saying, hey, Ed, we
saw you on the Circle. We think
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you'd be a good fit for the
challenge. Are you interested in applying?
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So before I even got the opportunity
to, you know, go watch the
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show and reach out and try and
apply myself, they reached out to me
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and I'm like, you can't make
this up. It happened with The Circle,
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now it's happening again with MTV the
Challenge. Like this is like I
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don't know why this is happening,
but it is, so of course I'm
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a yes man. So they reach
out. I'm like, yes, I'm
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in let's do it. Let's go
and I didn't even watch the show yet,
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so I didn't know what I was
getting myself into. But I kind
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of like that strategy of it where
I would rather go in not know anything
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and then form my opinion of the
show and the game and the strategy and
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everything right then and there, rather
than trying to plan everything ahead of time.
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I think that probably because you know, the best laid plans of mice
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and men often go awry, right, That's that's the old saying. So
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rather than try and plan everything out
and you know, well ahead of time,
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I was like, throw me in
there, let me just see how
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I do. And you came in
because that season, if I remember correctly,
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had a lot of people that you
were extremely well known. You had
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ct you had a NIECEA. You
had a millionaire Mitchell herself, so you
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had a lot. You had Corey, you had Nelson, you had a
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lot, and you had the newcomers
and then Mikayla and Mishall and Tommy and
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too, so you were you had
a really good cast with you. Yeah,
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that was a solid cast right there. There was some heavy hitters for
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sure, So it must have been
very interesting learn knowing to not be because
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one of my favorite images. I
said, you and Tommy going side my
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side and all of a sudden explosion. Oh. I love that picture.
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It's us just running with like a
big old ballfire in the background. So
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cool. I love that shot.
And that's how we always explained the challenge.
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Everybody's like, what's it like.
I'm like, I'm literally an action
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hero in like the biggest action movie. Like, that's what it feels like,
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because you're running down a runway,
there's helicopters, explosions, it's crazy,
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it's it's awesome and Vally the action
had to stop when you faced off
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against Kyle and the pull wrestle and
you lost. Unfortunately, I know that
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was a real tough moment. It
didn't go away I wanted, and I
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think it was just because I was
underprepared. I think they kind of tricked
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me into picking him some way or
another, that there was a there was
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nothing set up in the sand,
and usually there's something set up. So
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when you when you watch it back, they show the pole in the sand,
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and then I picked Kyle, But
in reality, I was like,
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TJ, there's there's nothing here.
It's it's empty. Usually I get to
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see before I picked somebody. He's
like, a you gotta pick someone.
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So I'm like, all right,
Kyle, and he was like, ah,
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you shouldn't have picked Kyle because tonight's
gonna be a pole wrestle, and
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I was like, damn it,
all right, Well, I think they
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might have had that loaded up in
case I picked Kyle, But anyway,
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I was excited. I didn't know
really what a pole wrestle was, because
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I should have watched the challenge before
I went. Oh, by the way,
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you should have saw Wet and Derreck's
Pull Wrestle and Josh and Dart's Crazy
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eight, so you can get a
good idea about how those he would go.
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Yeah. Yeah, So my strategy
was not great. I went out
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guns blazing, used all of my
energy right away. Kyle was smart.
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He's done the pole wrestle a number
of times, and he knew the weather,
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the storm, and I don't know
how he did it, to be
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honest, because I don't know if
you remember in the clip, but there
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was a point where I'm just like
bashing his head into the ground. He's
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holding on and I'm lifting them up
and just boom head in the sand.
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And it was It was a pretty
intense battle, and I came to find
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out after the fact that he was
like, dude, they sent me to
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the hospital because they thought I broke
a rib. Turns out they were just
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bruised. They weren't broken. They
let me still compete, and I was
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like, ah, so I gave
it to you pretty good, even though
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I ended up losing. But yeah, I h all, my energy was
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gone after the first I don't know
how long we went at it, five
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ten minutes, and he weathered the
storm and his strategy. Yeah, he
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beat me. He did good.
He did good. That's good to hear,
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because the thing is, I still
can't remember if it was like did
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it because one of the things that
I remember the most about other challenses,
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like Joss and Derek's Pull Crazy eight. Both of them said it was two
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hours. It was like almost a
two hour fights. What was that was?
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So you're shorter or longer than No, definitely wasn't two hours. I
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mean it's hard to remember, like
while you're in there because time moves so
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differently. Maybe I don't know,
ten fifteen minutes, maybe a little bit
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longerteen fifteen or so minutes, if
I had to guess, But yeah,
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it was. It was an intense
fifteen minutes after it, both of us
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were just like our hands. You
couldn't like move your fingers at all because
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your forearms were just absolutely on fire
from gripping onto the pole. It was
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one of the weirdest feelings I've ever
had. Absolutely, So we got to
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talk about this current season Battle of
the Knee Champion in this spot thirty nine.
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So what was your reaction? We
saw Jay, we saw we saw
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them with the big tea, Nourris, Raven and Emmanuel, and you didn't
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see cts. So Cory is the
Bananas, the Brads and car marias the
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Pauli's what was going through your mind
when you said, wait a minute,
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how them? They're not here?
Where are they? Yeah? So it
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was kind of interesting where for me, I did know a few people obviously
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from thirty seven, Michelle Corey,
Emmanuel Berna. I think that was everybody.
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Yeah, so I knew I recognized
a few people from season thirty seven,
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and I knew of other people,
but I just haven't met them.
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So I'm meeting everybody for the first
time, and I'm like, all right,
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it's all new people. There's not
any vets here. Like everybody's you
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know, on their first or second
season, well second now it's second or
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third season. But yeah, it
was kind of interesting because I felt I
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got along great with a lot of
the older Vets, which I kind of
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I'm not mad that they weren't there, but like I would have accepted them
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coming with open arms because I know
I'm pretty cool with them, where a
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lot of these other people are not
very cool with the Vets. So for
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some reason it just worked out like
on thirty seven, like I was very
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tight with all of like the veterans. I don't know why. They just
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they liked me. They took me
another wing. So it would have been
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great to see them back. I
think it would have been better for my
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gameplay where the Vets would have quickly
shut down a lot of stuff that was
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going on between the alliances that formed. I don't think a lot of it
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would have happened if they were there. They would have been like, yeah,
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I were done with this and just
started getting rid of people, and
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I think they would have allowed me
to hang out and just you know,
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brow it out until the end.
But I mean, ultimately, like I
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was like, wow, most of
these people really don't know what they're doing,
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and I think competitor wise, I
was probably one of the strongest competitors.
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Not to toot my own horn,
but out of the thirty nine,
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I was looking around and I was
like, yeah, I got this,
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you know very I felt pretty confident, all right, he So, what
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was your reaction, I know,
when we got stick Hay asping, when
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you brought when they said, oh, by the way, surprise, here
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comes Cet, Here comes Karla,
here comes Shordan, here comes Brat to
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around toy Ksey. What was your
reaction when he saw those vents? Yeah?
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So, I mean for me,
I was kind of happy to see
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them because I really didn't think that
they were gonna pick me to go against
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Uh. It was just like cool
that they showed up, that they were
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even there. So I was more
so like excited. I know, some
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people were shipping their pants like h
oh, like their hears are coming for
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me, They're gonna get me.
But I was pretty at ease most of
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the time because I really didn't expect
any of them to try and call me
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out, just because, like I
said, I got along great with all
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of them, and even though the
guys I didn't know, I know like
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like Brad Durrell like that this was
the first time I was meeting these guys.
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And when they came out there,
they were like saying hi to the
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people they know, and then they
were like, oh, and Ed's here
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too, Like always wanted to meet
Ed. He seemed like a good guy.
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And I was like, yes,
like they know who I am,
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Like this is awesome, Like it
seemed like right then and there, like
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boom, friendship solidified, like it
was it was cool now I gottuld say
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this a lot of as you know, soci for me, it's been a
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blast. When it's a certain car
Maria shown up, I heard everybody in
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the house was against her. Yeah, which was interesting because Carra and I
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are actually like friends. Her and
Paulie have been up to Philly a few
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times, and myself and my fiance
we actually went out hanging out with them
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a few times. We went bowling, we went to a concert. So
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out of like everybody on the challenge, car and Paulie are probably the ones
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who have actually hung out with the
most, you know, in like a
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social friendship setting. So when Carr
came out, I was like, oh,
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no way, Like that's awesome.
So I was pretty cool to see
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her. I know everybody else didn't
really want to see her, but me
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and her, we had a couple
of words. She was like, you
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better root for me even though everybody's
against me. I'm like, no,
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no, I got You're like,
all right, So you had three wins
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this time around, we all fell
down getting taken in dark time. At
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those wins, what was the which
win met the most of you? Out
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of those of those games, I
would say I would say the individual win
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because that too, that was the
first challenge of conquest. So for it
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to be the first challenge of conquest, we're now individuals, no longer in
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a team, and it's like,
boom, I take the first one.
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It's like, obviously I'm a dominant
force here, and then yeah, come
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to play. It didn't play out
great after that, but that one felt
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good because I was like, this
is all in my hands. Everything that
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happened was because I was physically strong
swimmer, I was a good paddle,
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or I was good at the like
ring toss, like boom, you can't
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take that from me. Whereas in
some of the team wins, it seemed
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like teams were trying to just sabotage
other teams. Sometimes you got stuck with
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a team that wasn't so great or
didn't even want to try, or so
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the team ones were a little iffy. I liked the individual one. I
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gotta say the first group with the
giant felt like, I'm sorry laugh I
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had to laugh with the first two. But everyone's Briany got up that ladder
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and everyone trying, and the first
time of your arrived it was just like
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okay, and I was like Pierre
Camps, oh my gosh. The first
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two challenges, I think they purposely
made them impossible for us, like it
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was. They were probably the two
hardest things in the entire show. I'm
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not even kidding. They were,
like they said they had people tested out.
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I'm like, they must have had
the Navy Seals like completing these missions,
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because there is no way that they
would have like expected us to beat
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like the times it was it was
impossible. It was fun, great to
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take a crack at, but they
were tough ones, and you also got
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to experience something that a lot of
people in the challenge rarely do. The
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reunion and as you know, thirty
nine and there's a lot of social media
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back and forth. I actually had
to drop to tell everyone I had to
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drop out because some of the criticism
towards one to like a sophist game towards
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Sainte Semitic. Yeah, in my
test, So I was there, So
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I told everyone I had a full
ots. So what like, what was
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it like going to Amsterdam and was
and what were the modes like when it
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was like before taping an after team. It's such a strange thing because I
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feel like a lot of the people
from season thirty nine, it's like they
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get on like when it's showtime,
either to film the show, to film
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the reunion, and it's almost like
they excuse me. It's almost like they
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flip a switch and they become like
completely different people. Where like the night
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before, everybody's hanging out having a
good time, and then the cameras come
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on and they're like, what do
you guys have to say? And they're
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just going at each other. People
who are like they say, oh,
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we're friends outside of here, We've
known each other for five ten years,
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like we're best friends on the outside
world. I'm like, no, you're
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not. Like I would never speak
to or about like my best friends in
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that way. It's just amazing some
of the stuff that comes out of their
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mouths once they're like in the spotlight. It's just like I barely say two
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words at the reunion because I don't
really have much beef with people. But
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it's just crazy how these people just
go at each other's next I'm like,
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if that was my friend, like
uh ah, Like i'd knock you out,
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dude, like you you are not
gonna do that to me, no
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way. So to hear some stuff
that happened, I was like, whoa,
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Like I was taken back, and
I was when I was ready.
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I'm almost ready to go enter the
ring myself, but have happ At the
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same time, I think a lot
of them. If I start to go
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to the insult. Number one,
the blog will not be celebrated in the
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fifth anniversary season would be over.
Number two, I would be black biled
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by the entire Challenge community. And
number three, I'd rather have a career
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like Regis and Barbara Walters to my
heroes that celebrated years instead of fifteen years.
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Yeah exactly, So I mean,
very careful not to go into the
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mud. Yeah, it's just they
were getting way too personal and like attacking
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each other and I'm like, it's
not a good look. It's not a
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good look, Like uh uh,
yeah, I have a feeling that thirty
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nine is like the thing is it'd
be interesting how they interact with at Challenge
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Menia is because I got to give
our friends Scott and Derek a lot of
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credits, So you got the opportunity
to go to simple Challenge Menias. So
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why was it like working? Meeting
fans one on one and interacting with the
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other cost members, especially like the
ogs and other people before you. Oh,
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I love it. Challenge Manias are
a blast. We're actually doing another
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one coming up in Philly in April, so I'm really excited for that.
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I can't wait. I'm talking to
Scott and Derek. But yeah, it's
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like so cool to actually just like
get up there and have like a normal
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conversation, just like back and forth
with the fans, because sometimes like I'll
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run into people just like on the
street or at the store or at the
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bar, and we'll have like these
like conversations where people are like, oh
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my gosh, ed tell me everything
this and that, and but like to
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get all of these people in the
room and just have like an open discussion
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where it's like all right, yeah, like we get to answer all the
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questions that everybody has, you know, versus talking to like one person like
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you're there, Like I love to
get the opportunity to like share that experience
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with all of these people, like
and I gotta give it big shouts of
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Scott and Derek because I've appeared.
I've got to see a couple events as
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well. For the Skirt Chold's media. They have set the bar for so
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many other reality TV meeting reets.
Yes, the thing is it's very well
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organized. I've had the opportunity with
a lot of people, and I really
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hope if you have the opportunity to
come to Saint Louis or to Kansas City,
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we got it. Yeah, I
would love to travel around and do
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a couple of them. I know
some people they go to like everyone.
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I don't know how they do it. I think Live was one of them.
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After season thirty eight, I saw
her pop up at like every single
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Challenge Mania. I'm like, how
are you doing this? You're traveling like
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every weekend to like everyone. It
was crazy, all right, So I
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got a couple of questions about you
about about the challenge before we start.
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Have you thought about who do you
want to compete against? Or ever it
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shows that you want to see like
dream Cast members to be that you want
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to compete against on like the traditions
of the challenge. M who do I
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want to compete against? That's interesting. I feel like I'm just open to
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to compete against anybody, Like I
don't have any like sworn enemies where I'm
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out to get this person or like
you know people where I'm like, oh,
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like I hope this guy's on so
I can either be on his team
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or be against him. Like i
feel like I'm just very chill. I'm
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cool with everybody. I would actually
like to see some more Circle people on
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the Challenge. That would be cool
because I feel like me being the only
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Circle guy, whereas like everybody else
they have their Big Brother alliance, their
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Survivor alliance, but there's no other
Circle people. So I would like to
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have a few Circle people on there
just for the sake of creating my own
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kind of little alliance going. But
yeah, I don't have any like sworn
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enemies or anything where I'm like I
want this person to compete against. Like,
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I'm just very open and I love
the competition. I love the sport
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of the show. I'm a very
competitive guy, So I really hope that
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they do Bloodlines because I would love
to see the Calfuries versus the Easthans.
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Oh, that would be good.
That would be good, like East Coast,
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just like Bulldog Boys, like because
me and Mitch are very strong,
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the cal Fiery Boys are very strong. It's like that would be a great
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one. And we we've talked about
that before, getting the four of us
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together for something like it would just
be a blast. I think fans would
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love it, like unless you have
a fifth Weather and he also if you
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had six you're Bob and also car
too. Yeah, that would be fun.
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I'm really hey, challenge Bots,
please do this. Please bring back
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black lines. I would months of
toozy that yes, alrighty, So when
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you're not competing on reality TV,
you are inspiring your followers, including me,
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with amazing fitness beat. Because the
guy gotta say this, I have
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been in awe of your straight seriously, the power's fired down lifts and squats,
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lifting up the car. Yeah,
a god, you are super strong.
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Yeah. I do a lot of
goofy things I find just random,
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like heavy household objects or things laying
around the yard, and I'm like,
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can I lift this? Can I
do this? Let me try it?
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And I just make silly videos of
it. I gotta say this because that
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content, my friend, is amazing, and like, gotta say you lifting
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up the couch, holding bullying it. Oh, when I'm just pressing the
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couch, I'm like, Alea and
lisot drop it, please don't drop it.
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I know. Lot of it's goofy
items where they're very tricky to hold,
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and a lot of it's not even
that heavy. It's just very awkward.
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All right. So how did he
get interested into fitness? I guess
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just growing up doing sports my whole
life. I was big into martial arts,
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so I think that's really what started
it. Was when I was four
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or five years old. I got
into martial arts and they had us doing
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like real fitness, like we were
jogging labs, doing push ups, like
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hitting the bags, actually grappling,
and it's like you're four or five years
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old, It's like this is intense
stuff for a little kid. So I
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think that's what really started the fire
in me. And then I went on
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to do a bunch of different sports. I did soccer, basketball, baseball,
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track and field was the big one
that I got into during high school
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and college, and then college is
when I really got serious into the more
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weightlifting and just kind of bodybuilding,
Like I just like being big and strong
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and muscle and h So yeah,
I just always I've always been doing sports
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like my whole life. And and
I gotta say that he could need a
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challenge his version of Hercules. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah,
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Because the thing is, I also
do a lot of weightlifting crossfits because
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it's definitely important for me to do
that because I'm always the last person to
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finish, and I definitely do that. But like the past couple of weeks
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have I've been doing ASAFA on for
a long time, so but it's been
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It's helped me a lot, and
I've been sending people like it's like people
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like you. It's people like Paulie
and Jay and Derek and Johns inspiring me.
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That's what I just never stopped.
Just keep doing it, stay consistent,
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like especially too, because it just
it becomes like a passion. It's
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like if I go a day without
going to the gym, I'm like,
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oh, man, like what am
I doing? I gotta get to the
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gym, like, it's just my
my schedules off. It's like you developed
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that passion and you love to do
it, and it's just I don't know
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what I would do without the gym. Somebody uh asked me the other day,
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which would you rather give up the
gym or motorcycles? And I was
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like, oh my goodness, I
started losing my mind because I love both
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of them and I can sell these
choice. Yeah. Yeah. And then
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so I got to say, your
concent's amazing. So how long does it
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take you to create your social media
contents? Some of them take me a
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while. I'm not the best like
video editor, so when it comes to
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that stuff, I might sit there
for a while, like spicing clips together
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and getting the captions right. But
usually I can film them in a couple
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of minutes, Like I'll do a
few takes and I'll have the video and
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then I'm sitting there for the next
like two hours just trying to get the
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video right. So I need to
get a good video editor to help me
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with this stuff. A great social
media can be very tedious. Oh yeah,
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so we got it. So one
of the last time, one last
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question, I want to talk to
you about is like, have you thought
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about now you've got the challenge and
the circle under Doug, have you thought
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about let's try Because I've seen a
lot of your stories in ther and people
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are seeing you for like Survivor,
Big Brother, have you have you been
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thinking about putting your hand in and
like competing on those shows or any other
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shows. I mean, I'm definitely
open to it, but I just feel
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like I like the the just raw
intensity of the challenge, like the the
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bashi and the physical competition, whereas
like Survivor. I would definitely give it
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a go, but I think I
would starve first off, because I eat
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a lot. I don't know if
you realize how much I eat in a
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day, but I think I would
probably quickly starve. I mean, like,
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uh, the amount of calories I
eat is absurd. So yeah,
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I mean I would love to give
it a try. I'm definitely open to
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it if they would have me,
definitely, I'm all in. Maybe Jane
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Michelle could actually say, hey,
can you try your friend ed? Yeah?
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Yeah, because I got to say
you'd be really good with that,
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and all of a feeling you might
be right. You might be one of
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the first people voted out. Yeah, alrighty, So let's turn the positive.
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So what is your favorite social media
app? You have a large follow
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it Instagram, on Snapchat and also
other stuff. So what is your favorite
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app that you likes connect fans?
Probably Instagram. I feel like that's the
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one I'm on the most. That's
good, I'm all, but I'm also
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on Instagram as well. So one
of the last, one of the last
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questions I would want to ask you
is there are a lot of people apply
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to the applications for like Big Brother
Survivor and Amazing Race and even Circle who
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want to even squay games a challenge
for who like they want to go to
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the child checks. So what would
your advice be for anyone who wants to
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go on a reality TV show?
Oh? Yeah, one thing I always
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tell people because people do ask me, like ed, what should I say?
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How should I make my like interview
tape? Like what if I say
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the wrong thing? I always say, be you and be you like one
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hundred and ten percent, like don't
hold back at all, don't worry about
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saying the wrong thing, or like
they want to see your personality. So
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some people try and come off like
too formal and they're like, oh,
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like I would love to be on
this show, Like, please give me
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the opportunity. It's like, no, like talk how you normally would talk,
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tell stories about you, let them
know who you are as a person,
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and just like have fun with it
because that's when your personality is really
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gonna shine through and they want to
see like those big personalities. And like,
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I know so many people are like, oh, like I just want
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it to be perfect. I'm like, it's not gonna be perfect, no
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matter what the interview, no matter
what tape it is, it's not gonna
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be perfect. But if you have
fun with it and you let your personality
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shine, like, tell a story, tell something you think's funny, and
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like, the people are gonna love
you. So that that's my advice.
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Be you one hundred and ten percent
you, and don't hold back. Don't
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worry about saying the wrong thing.
If you need to say a curse word,
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say a curse word. If you
say something stupid, roll with it.
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Like's some really good advice. Head. So, last question to a
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ready, Yes, where can the
connect with you on social media? Oh?
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They can connect with me everywhere.
So first off, instagram ed six
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to one zero underscore Snapchat's my other
big one that I'm on all the time.
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My Snapchat name is sexy dash Ed. I think I made that name
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when I was like twelve or thirteen
when Snapchat came out, I stuck with
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it. Uh so it is what
it is? Whatever? YouTube at six
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one? Oh? Uh? Twitter? What is my Twitter? I think
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it's is it at six ten?
I don't use Twitter much, so if
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you're trying to find me on Twitter, I go on and check it like
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every couple of weeks. But yeah, I'll have to get that for you.
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Uh. I'm not really on TikTok. Uh those are the big ones.
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Facebook. Uh not really. I
don't have like a Facebook bait.
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I just have like my personal one, but Instagram, Snapchat, YouTube.
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thank you so much for coming onto
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Thank you so much for having me. I had a blast. Thank
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you so much, Ed, I
appreciate and guys, thank you so much
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for watching. Thank you so much
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Hello everyone, and welcome back to
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star ratings. Please download this episode
and more. I'm very excited welcome one
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of my favorite challenges of this new
generation. You've probably seen him on Netflix
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The Circle and more recently two seasons
of the Challenge The Spies, Lies and
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Allies talk about aboutful and Battle for
New Champion, and as of today he
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has won three dailies and one wand
elimination. And after this recording, he
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has over one hundred and nine thousand
Instagram followers and one hundred ten thousand Snapchat
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followers. So please me welcome ed. He's the two the podcasts, Jake,
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thank you for having me, rother
pleasure to be here. I'm excited
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to get into it and start talking
the challenge baby. Absolutely absolutely, and
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and I just want to let you
know you're one of my favorite movies for
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this from the thirties, so there's
a lot of people. So I'm just
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I'm also doing as well, Pauline, Natalie j they all brought me it
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so awesome. I love that.
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
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And this is a special episode too, two hundred and seventy five. Whoa
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holy smoke salute, congratulations, thank
you. So that's for my friends.
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Hears for that. That is awesome. Alright, y, ed, So
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let's get started on your reality TV
journals. So when you get interested in
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Reality Intelligent and how did that patch
it involve a design to pursue and to
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actually audition for a chef. I'll
tell you what. It all happened completely
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by accident. I did not watch
really much TV at all, definitely not
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much reality TV, and it was
crazy. Just one day somebody stumbled onto
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my Instagram. I think they sent
him message to myself and my brother.
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They were like, hey, we're
coming down with this new show on Netflix.
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I'm a scout in the Philadelphia area
trying to find some local people here.
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We came across you guys on Instagram. You guys seem like fun people.
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You seem silly at the time,
I was not like anything big,
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just your normal I guess, well
in college at the time. Yeah,
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I think I had two thousand Instagram
followers, like normal college kid, and
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I don't know how they stumbled across, but they were like, yeah,
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we saw your page and I just
post a lot of dumb stuff. It's
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just really goofy, and they're like, hey, you seem like a fun
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guy. We'd love to have you
apply for this show called The Circle.
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And I'm like, no way,
this can't be legit, like this new
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upcoming show. It's nobody's ever heard
of it. So I messaged back,
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I'm like, yeah, send me
an application, thinking they're not going to
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send an application. Sure enough,
they did. It was a couple of
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questions. I filled it out.
They're like, hey, we'd love to
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interview you. I'm like, okay, this looks pretty real. Uh So
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I had an online interview. I
had an interview in Philly, and I
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guess that went well because they're like, ed, we want to fly out
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to LA for the final interview.
I was like, no way. So
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it was completely by accident. Wasn't
looking for it at all. It just
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happened to fall into my lap and
I don't know. God works some mysterious
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ways. I guess that was his
plan. He wanted. He wanted that
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on reality TV, so it happened. It was like I couldn't you know,
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I won't. I probably wouldn't have
got it if I went looking for
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it, you know, absolutely absolutely
though not only did you were on reality
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TV, but your mom was all
you also competed with your mom too,
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that's right. So what was your
reaction when he said, oh, by
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the way, ading congratus, he
made it to the circle, but we're
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carrying you with your mom. Yeah, that was It was a moment of
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like, wow, that's a credible
and also like oh, man, like
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now I'm gonna be cooped up with
my mom in the same room for god
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knows how long this game's gonna go
on. But it was great to have
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somebody, you know, there with
me through the experience, especially somebody I'm
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close with, Like my mom is
my number one, so having her with
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me, like it was just it
made it a lot better. It made
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it, you know, not,
as I guess, lonely because obviously the
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circle, you're just alone in a
room, like nobody to talk to,
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You're just staring at the walls all
day pretty much hoping a conversation pops up
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so to have somebody there and it
be my mom. It was. It
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was a very special thing that we
got to do together. And absolutely too
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because I feel a lot because if
you look at Survivor, if they're on
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the beach and even though they're paranoid, you look at the challenge here you're
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all together and would say with big
Brother, the like with the Circle,
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it's like you're's just you and you
alone, which is like, definitely,
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it feels like passed away. It's
an I always explain to people that,
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like it's a it's an experience like
no other, because sometimes people will like,
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you know, they'll be alone,
but it's like I got my phone
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to play on, or I got
some TV to watch, or you know,
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I can go on the computer or
walk outside and check out the day.
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But like we couldn't open a window
to our little apartment. We were
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in no TVs, no clocks,
no radios, like no nothing. It
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was just sit there in silence all
day and hope you have a chat pop
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up because you were just biting at
the bit, like waiting to talk to
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somebody. And it feels like,
even though you got so you're not you
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guys are not the only people,
but you're how you mentioned your brother Mitchell
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also was in the last the following
season, So did you did you and
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your mom give him advice recording the
Circle? Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah.
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So they casted us for the first
season, and then he ended up
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doing the second season, so we
have pretty much the whole family on TV
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now, and we gave him a
little insiders scoop, you know, to
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try to get him a little bit
more prepared to get the job done,
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since obviously me and Tam didn't end
up with the outcome that we wanted.
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I mean, it was the cars
were a little stacked against us, us
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being the last people to actually come
onto the game, so at that point
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it was tough to try and make
relationships where people had already formed relationships for
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days and weeks before that. So
I think we did as good as we
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could have done given the circumstances.
And Mitch had another kind of He came
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in a little bit earlier than we
did, but still he wasn't in there
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from the beginning, which I think
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did. I wish I would have
been in there sooner, you know,
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from the get go, And we
tried to explain that to Mitch. But
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you don't get to pick when you
go in. It's just you're thrown in
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and you don't know when it could
be the beginning, could be the end.
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You have no idea. I totally
agree. And now you are also
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a Trailblazer as well, because you're
also the first Circle cast member to cross
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over to MTD's the Challenge. So
when did he hear about the challenge?
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And when were You're like, okay, I'm gamen. Yeah that's right.
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So, like I said before,
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at all. So I came home
from the Circle and once that came out,
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it was way bigger than I expected. So many people watched the Circle
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and I got tons of messages from
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they all kept saying, like,
Ed, you did great on the Circle,
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but like the Challenge, you would
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I was a big workout guy.
I competed in college sports. I did
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sports my whole life. I was
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pretty smart mind too, so everybody, I guess saw that and we're like,
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oh, we want to see how
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So I had personal the person reach
out and be like, oh,
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Ed, we really think you would
do great on the challenge. At the
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time, I had never watched an
episode of the Challenge. I just kept
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saying, Oh, yeah, I'll
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about applying. Yeah, that'd be
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And I didn't really know what it
was. A couple months go by,
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and who reaches out to me but
the Challenge. I get a message
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saying, hey, Ed, we
saw you on the Circle. We think
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you'd be a good fit for the
challenge. Are you interested in applying?
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So before I even got the opportunity
to, you know, go watch the
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show and reach out and try and
apply myself, they reached out to me
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and I'm like, you can't make
this up. It happened with The Circle,
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now it's happening again with MTV the
Challenge. Like this is like I
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don't know why this is happening,
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a yes man. So they reach
out. I'm like, yes, I'm
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in let's do it. Let's go
and I didn't even watch the show yet,
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so I didn't know what I was
getting myself into. But I kind
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of like that strategy of it where
I would rather go in not know anything
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and then form my opinion of the
show and the game and the strategy and
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everything right then and there, rather
than trying to plan everything ahead of time.
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I think that probably because you know, the best laid plans of mice
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and men often go awry, right, That's that's the old saying. So
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rather than try and plan everything out
and you know, well ahead of time,
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I was like, throw me in
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I do. And you came in
because that season, if I remember correctly,
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had a lot of people that you
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ct you had a NIECEA. You
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had a lot. You had Corey, you had Nelson, you had a
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lot, and you had the newcomers
and then Mikayla and Mishall and Tommy and
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too, so you were you had
a really good cast with you. Yeah,
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that was a solid cast right there. There was some heavy hitters for
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sure, So it must have been
very interesting learn knowing to not be because
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one of my favorite images. I
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side and all of a sudden explosion. Oh. I love that picture.
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cool. I love that shot.
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Everybody's like, what's it like.
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hero in like the biggest action movie. Like, that's what it feels like,
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because you're running down a runway,
there's helicopters, explosions, it's crazy,
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it's it's awesome and Vally the action
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against Kyle and the pull wrestle and
you lost. Unfortunately, I know that
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was a real tough moment. It
didn't go away I wanted, and I
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think it was just because I was
underprepared. I think they kind of tricked
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me into picking him some way or
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nothing set up in the sand,
and usually there's something set up. So
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when you when you watch it back, they show the pole in the sand,
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and then I picked Kyle, But
in reality, I was like,
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TJ, there's there's nothing here.
It's it's empty. Usually I get to
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see before I picked somebody. He's
like, a you gotta pick someone.
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So I'm like, all right,
Kyle, and he was like, ah,
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you shouldn't have picked Kyle because tonight's
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I was like, damn it,
all right, Well, I think they
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might have had that loaded up in
case I picked Kyle, But anyway,
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I was excited. I didn't know
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I should have watched the challenge before
I went. Oh, by the way,
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you should have saw Wet and Derreck's
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eight, so you can get a
good idea about how those he would go.
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Yeah. Yeah, So my strategy
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guns blazing, used all of my
energy right away. Kyle was smart.
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He's done the pole wrestle a number
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the storm, and I don't know
how he did it, to be
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honest, because I don't know if
you remember in the clip, but there
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was a point where I'm just like
bashing his head into the ground. He's
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holding on and I'm lifting them up
and just boom head in the sand.
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intense battle, and I came to find
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out after the fact that he was
like, dude, they sent me to
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the hospital because they thought I broke
a rib. Turns out they were just
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bruised. They weren't broken. They
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like, ah, so I gave
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I ended up losing. But yeah, I h all, my energy was
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gone after the first I don't know
how long we went at it, five
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ten minutes, and he weathered the
storm and his strategy. Yeah, he
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beat me. He did good.
He did good. That's good to hear,
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because the thing is, I still
can't remember if it was like did
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it because one of the things that
I remember the most about other challenses,
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like Joss and Derek's Pull Crazy eight. Both of them said it was two
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hours. It was like almost a
two hour fights. What was that was?
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So you're shorter or longer than No, definitely wasn't two hours. I
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mean it's hard to remember, like
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differently. Maybe I don't know,
ten fifteen minutes, maybe a little bit
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longerteen fifteen or so minutes, if
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it was. It was an intense
fifteen minutes after it, both of us
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were just like our hands. You
couldn't like move your fingers at all because
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your forearms were just absolutely on fire
from gripping onto the pole. It was
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one of the weirdest feelings I've ever
had. Absolutely, So we got to
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talk about this current season Battle of
the Knee Champion in this spot thirty nine.
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So what was your reaction? We
saw Jay, we saw we saw
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them with the big tea, Nourris, Raven and Emmanuel, and you didn't
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see cts. So Cory is the
Bananas, the Brads and car marias the
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Pauli's what was going through your mind
when you said, wait a minute,
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how them? They're not here?
Where are they? Yeah? So it
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was kind of interesting where for me, I did know a few people obviously
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from thirty seven, Michelle Corey,
Emmanuel Berna. I think that was everybody.
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Yeah, so I knew I recognized
a few people from season thirty seven,
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and I knew of other people,
but I just haven't met them.
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So I'm meeting everybody for the first
time, and I'm like, all right,
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it's all new people. There's not
any vets here. Like everybody's you
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know, on their first or second
season, well second now it's second or
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third season. But yeah, it
was kind of interesting because I felt I
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got along great with a lot of
the older Vets, which I kind of
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I'm not mad that they weren't there, but like I would have accepted them
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coming with open arms because I know
I'm pretty cool with them, where a
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lot of these other people are not
very cool with the Vets. So for
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some reason it just worked out like
on thirty seven, like I was very
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tight with all of like the veterans. I don't know why. They just
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they liked me. They took me
another wing. So it would have been
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great to see them back. I
think it would have been better for my
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gameplay where the Vets would have quickly
shut down a lot of stuff that was
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going on between the alliances that formed. I don't think a lot of it
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would have happened if they were there. They would have been like, yeah,
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I were done with this and just
started getting rid of people, and
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I think they would have allowed me
to hang out and just you know,
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brow it out until the end.
But I mean, ultimately, like I
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was like, wow, most of
these people really don't know what they're doing,
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and I think competitor wise, I
was probably one of the strongest competitors.
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but out of the thirty nine,
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I was looking around and I was
like, yeah, I got this,
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you know very I felt pretty confident, all right, he So, what
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was your reaction, I know,
when we got stick Hay asping, when
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you brought when they said, oh, by the way, surprise, here
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comes Cet, Here comes Karla,
here comes Shordan, here comes Brat to
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around toy Ksey. What was your
reaction when he saw those vents? Yeah?
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So, I mean for me,
I was kind of happy to see
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them because I really didn't think that
they were gonna pick me to go against
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Uh. It was just like cool
that they showed up, that they were
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even there. So I was more
so like excited. I know, some
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people were shipping their pants like h
oh, like their hears are coming for
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me, They're gonna get me.
But I was pretty at ease most of
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the time because I really didn't expect
any of them to try and call me
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out, just because, like I
said, I got along great with all
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of them, and even though the
guys I didn't know, I know like
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like Brad Durrell like that this was
the first time I was meeting these guys.
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And when they came out there,
they were like saying hi to the
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people they know, and then they
were like, oh, and Ed's here
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too, Like always wanted to meet
Ed. He seemed like a good guy.
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And I was like, yes,
like they know who I am,
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Like this is awesome, Like it
seemed like right then and there, like
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boom, friendship solidified, like it
was it was cool now I gottuld say
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this a lot of as you know, soci for me, it's been a
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blast. When it's a certain car
Maria shown up, I heard everybody in
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the house was against her. Yeah, which was interesting because Carra and I
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are actually like friends. Her and
Paulie have been up to Philly a few
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times, and myself and my fiance
we actually went out hanging out with them
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a few times. We went bowling, we went to a concert. So
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out of like everybody on the challenge, car and Paulie are probably the ones
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who have actually hung out with the
most, you know, in like a
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social friendship setting. So when Carr
came out, I was like, oh,
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no way, Like that's awesome.
So I was pretty cool to see
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her. I know everybody else didn't
really want to see her, but me
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and her, we had a couple
of words. She was like, you
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better root for me even though everybody's
against me. I'm like, no,
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no, I got You're like,
all right, So you had three wins
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this time around, we all fell
down getting taken in dark time. At
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those wins, what was the which
win met the most of you? Out
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of those of those games, I
would say I would say the individual win
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because that too, that was the
first challenge of conquest. So for it
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to be the first challenge of conquest, we're now individuals, no longer in
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a team, and it's like,
boom, I take the first one.
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It's like, obviously I'm a dominant
force here, and then yeah, come
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to play. It didn't play out
great after that, but that one felt
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good because I was like, this
is all in my hands. Everything that
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happened was because I was physically strong
swimmer, I was a good paddle,
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or I was good at the like
ring toss, like boom, you can't
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take that from me. Whereas in
some of the team wins, it seemed
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like teams were trying to just sabotage
other teams. Sometimes you got stuck with
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a team that wasn't so great or
didn't even want to try, or so
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the team ones were a little iffy. I liked the individual one. I
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gotta say the first group with the
giant felt like, I'm sorry laugh I
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had to laugh with the first two. But everyone's Briany got up that ladder
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and everyone trying, and the first
time of your arrived it was just like
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okay, and I was like Pierre
Camps, oh my gosh. The first
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two challenges, I think they purposely
made them impossible for us, like it
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was. They were probably the two
hardest things in the entire show. I'm
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not even kidding. They were,
like they said they had people tested out.
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I'm like, they must have had
the Navy Seals like completing these missions,
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because there is no way that they
would have like expected us to beat
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like the times it was it was
impossible. It was fun, great to
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take a crack at, but they
were tough ones, and you also got
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to experience something that a lot of
people in the challenge rarely do. The
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reunion and as you know, thirty
nine and there's a lot of social media
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back and forth. I actually had
to drop to tell everyone I had to
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drop out because some of the criticism
towards one to like a sophist game towards
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Sainte Semitic. Yeah, in my
test, So I was there, So
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I told everyone I had a full
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it like going to Amsterdam and was
and what were the modes like when it
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was like before taping an after team. It's such a strange thing because I
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feel like a lot of the people
from season thirty nine, it's like they
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get on like when it's showtime,
either to film the show, to film
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the reunion, and it's almost like
they excuse me. It's almost like they
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flip a switch and they become like
completely different people. Where like the night
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before, everybody's hanging out having a
good time, and then the cameras come
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on and they're like, what do
you guys have to say? And they're
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just going at each other. People
who are like they say, oh,
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we're friends outside of here, We've
known each other for five ten years,
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like we're best friends on the outside
world. I'm like, no, you're
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not. Like I would never speak
to or about like my best friends in
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that way. It's just amazing some
of the stuff that comes out of their
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mouths once they're like in the spotlight. It's just like I barely say two
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words at the reunion because I don't
really have much beef with people. But
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it's just crazy how these people just
go at each other's next I'm like,
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if that was my friend, like
uh ah, Like i'd knock you out,
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dude, like you you are not
gonna do that to me, no
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way. So to hear some stuff
that happened, I was like, whoa,
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Like I was taken back, and
I was when I was ready.
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I'm almost ready to go enter the
ring myself, but have happ At the
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same time, I think a lot
of them. If I start to go
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to the insult. Number one,
the blog will not be celebrated in the
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fifth anniversary season would be over.
Number two, I would be black biled
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by the entire Challenge community. And
number three, I'd rather have a career
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like Regis and Barbara Walters to my
heroes that celebrated years instead of fifteen years.
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Yeah exactly, So I mean,
very careful not to go into the
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mud. Yeah, it's just they
were getting way too personal and like attacking
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each other and I'm like, it's
not a good look. It's not a
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good look, Like uh uh,
yeah, I have a feeling that thirty
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nine is like the thing is it'd
be interesting how they interact with at Challenge
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Menia is because I got to give
our friends Scott and Derek a lot of
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credits, So you got the opportunity
to go to simple Challenge Menias. So
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why was it like working? Meeting
fans one on one and interacting with the
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other cost members, especially like the
ogs and other people before you. Oh,
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I love it. Challenge Manias are
a blast. We're actually doing another
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one coming up in Philly in April, so I'm really excited for that.
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I can't wait. I'm talking to
Scott and Derek. But yeah, it's
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like so cool to actually just like
get up there and have like a normal
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conversation, just like back and forth
with the fans, because sometimes like I'll
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run into people just like on the
street or at the store or at the
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bar, and we'll have like these
like conversations where people are like, oh
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my gosh, ed tell me everything
this and that, and but like to
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get all of these people in the
room and just have like an open discussion
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where it's like all right, yeah, like we get to answer all the
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questions that everybody has, you know, versus talking to like one person like
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you're there, Like I love to
get the opportunity to like share that experience
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with all of these people, like
and I gotta give it big shouts of
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Scott and Derek because I've appeared.
I've got to see a couple events as
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well. For the Skirt Chold's media. They have set the bar for so
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many other reality TV meeting reets.
Yes, the thing is it's very well
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organized. I've had the opportunity with
a lot of people, and I really
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hope if you have the opportunity to
come to Saint Louis or to Kansas City,
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we got it. Yeah, I
would love to travel around and do
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a couple of them. I know
some people they go to like everyone.
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I don't know how they do it. I think Live was one of them.
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After season thirty eight, I saw
her pop up at like every single
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Challenge Mania. I'm like, how
are you doing this? You're traveling like
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every weekend to like everyone. It
was crazy, all right, So I
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got a couple of questions about you
about about the challenge before we start.
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Have you thought about who do you
want to compete against? Or ever it
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shows that you want to see like
dream Cast members to be that you want
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to compete against on like the traditions
of the challenge. M who do I
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want to compete against? That's interesting. I feel like I'm just open to
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to compete against anybody, Like I
don't have any like sworn enemies where I'm
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out to get this person or like
you know people where I'm like, oh,
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like I hope this guy's on so
I can either be on his team
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or be against him. Like i
feel like I'm just very chill. I'm
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cool with everybody. I would actually
like to see some more Circle people on
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the Challenge. That would be cool
because I feel like me being the only
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Circle guy, whereas like everybody else
they have their Big Brother alliance, their
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Survivor alliance, but there's no other
Circle people. So I would like to
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have a few Circle people on there
just for the sake of creating my own
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kind of little alliance going. But
yeah, I don't have any like sworn
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enemies or anything where I'm like I
want this person to compete against. Like,
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I'm just very open and I love
the competition. I love the sport
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of the show. I'm a very
competitive guy, So I really hope that
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they do Bloodlines because I would love
to see the Calfuries versus the Easthans.
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Oh, that would be good.
That would be good, like East Coast,
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just like Bulldog Boys, like because
me and Mitch are very strong,
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the cal Fiery Boys are very strong. It's like that would be a great
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one. And we we've talked about
that before, getting the four of us
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together for something like it would just
be a blast. I think fans would
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love it, like unless you have
a fifth Weather and he also if you
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had six you're Bob and also car
too. Yeah, that would be fun.
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I'm really hey, challenge Bots,
please do this. Please bring back
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black lines. I would months of
toozy that yes, alrighty, So when
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you're not competing on reality TV,
you are inspiring your followers, including me,
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with amazing fitness beat. Because the
guy gotta say this, I have
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been in awe of your straight seriously, the power's fired down lifts and squats,
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lifting up the car. Yeah,
a god, you are super strong.
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Yeah. I do a lot of
goofy things I find just random,
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like heavy household objects or things laying
around the yard, and I'm like,
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can I lift this? Can I
do this? Let me try it?
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And I just make silly videos of
it. I gotta say this because that
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content, my friend, is amazing, and like, gotta say you lifting
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up the couch, holding bullying it. Oh, when I'm just pressing the
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couch, I'm like, Alea and
lisot drop it, please don't drop it.
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I know. Lot of it's goofy
items where they're very tricky to hold,
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and a lot of it's not even
that heavy. It's just very awkward.
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All right. So how did he
get interested into fitness? I guess
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just growing up doing sports my whole
life. I was big into martial arts,
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so I think that's really what started
it. Was when I was four
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or five years old. I got
into martial arts and they had us doing
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like real fitness, like we were
jogging labs, doing push ups, like
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hitting the bags, actually grappling,
and it's like you're four or five years
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old, It's like this is intense
stuff for a little kid. So I
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think that's what really started the fire
in me. And then I went on
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to do a bunch of different sports. I did soccer, basketball, baseball,
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track and field was the big one
that I got into during high school
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and college, and then college is
when I really got serious into the more
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weightlifting and just kind of bodybuilding,
Like I just like being big and strong
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and muscle and h So yeah,
I just always I've always been doing sports
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like my whole life. And and
I gotta say that he could need a
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challenge his version of Hercules. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah,
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Because the thing is, I also
do a lot of weightlifting crossfits because
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it's definitely important for me to do
that because I'm always the last person to
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finish, and I definitely do that. But like the past couple of weeks
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have I've been doing ASAFA on for
a long time, so but it's been
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It's helped me a lot, and
I've been sending people like it's like people
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like you. It's people like Paulie
and Jay and Derek and Johns inspiring me.
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That's what I just never stopped.
Just keep doing it, stay consistent,
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like especially too, because it just
it becomes like a passion. It's
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like if I go a day without
going to the gym, I'm like,
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oh, man, like what am
I doing? I gotta get to the
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gym, like, it's just my
my schedules off. It's like you developed
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that passion and you love to do
it, and it's just I don't know
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what I would do without the gym. Somebody uh asked me the other day,
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which would you rather give up the
gym or motorcycles? And I was
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like, oh my goodness, I
started losing my mind because I love both
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of them and I can sell these
choice. Yeah. Yeah. And then
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so I got to say, your
concent's amazing. So how long does it
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take you to create your social media
contents? Some of them take me a
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while. I'm not the best like
video editor, so when it comes to
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that stuff, I might sit there
for a while, like spicing clips together
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and getting the captions right. But
usually I can film them in a couple
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of minutes, Like I'll do a
few takes and I'll have the video and
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then I'm sitting there for the next
like two hours just trying to get the
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video right. So I need to
get a good video editor to help me
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with this stuff. A great social
media can be very tedious. Oh yeah,
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so we got it. So one
of the last time, one last
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question, I want to talk to
you about is like, have you thought
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about now you've got the challenge and
the circle under Doug, have you thought
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about let's try Because I've seen a
lot of your stories in ther and people
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are seeing you for like Survivor,
Big Brother, have you have you been
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thinking about putting your hand in and
like competing on those shows or any other
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shows. I mean, I'm definitely
open to it, but I just feel
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like I like the the just raw
intensity of the challenge, like the the
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bashi and the physical competition, whereas
like Survivor. I would definitely give it
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a go, but I think I
would starve first off, because I eat
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a lot. I don't know if
you realize how much I eat in a
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day, but I think I would
probably quickly starve. I mean, like,
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uh, the amount of calories I
eat is absurd. So yeah,
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I mean I would love to give
it a try. I'm definitely open to
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it if they would have me,
definitely, I'm all in. Maybe Jane
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Michelle could actually say, hey,
can you try your friend ed? Yeah?
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Yeah, because I got to say
you'd be really good with that,
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and all of a feeling you might
be right. You might be one of
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the first people voted out. Yeah, alrighty, So let's turn the positive.
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So what is your favorite social media
app? You have a large follow
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it Instagram, on Snapchat and also
other stuff. So what is your favorite
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app that you likes connect fans?
Probably Instagram. I feel like that's the
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one I'm on the most. That's
good, I'm all, but I'm also
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on Instagram as well. So one
of the last, one of the last
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questions I would want to ask you
is there are a lot of people apply
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to the applications for like Big Brother
Survivor and Amazing Race and even Circle who
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want to even squay games a challenge
for who like they want to go to
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the child checks. So what would
your advice be for anyone who wants to
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go on a reality TV show?
Oh? Yeah, one thing I always
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tell people because people do ask me, like ed, what should I say?
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How should I make my like interview
tape? Like what if I say
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the wrong thing? I always say, be you and be you like one
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hundred and ten percent, like don't
hold back at all, don't worry about
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saying the wrong thing, or like
they want to see your personality. So
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some people try and come off like
too formal and they're like, oh,
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like I would love to be on
this show, Like, please give me
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the opportunity. It's like, no, like talk how you normally would talk,
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tell stories about you, let them
know who you are as a person,
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and just like have fun with it
because that's when your personality is really
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gonna shine through and they want to
see like those big personalities. And like,
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I know so many people are like, oh, like I just want
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it to be perfect. I'm like, it's not gonna be perfect, no
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matter what the interview, no matter
what tape it is, it's not gonna
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be perfect. But if you have
fun with it and you let your personality
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shine, like, tell a story, tell something you think's funny, and
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like, the people are gonna love
you. So that that's my advice.
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Be you one hundred and ten percent
you, and don't hold back. Don't
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worry about saying the wrong thing.
If you need to say a curse word,
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say a curse word. If you
say something stupid, roll with it.
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Like's some really good advice. Head. So, last question to a
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ready, Yes, where can the
connect with you on social media? Oh?
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They can connect with me everywhere.
So first off, instagram ed six
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to one zero underscore Snapchat's my other
big one that I'm on all the time.
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My Snapchat name is sexy dash Ed. I think I made that name
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when I was like twelve or thirteen
when Snapchat came out, I stuck with
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it. Uh so it is what
it is? Whatever? YouTube at six
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one? Oh? Uh? Twitter? What is my Twitter? I think
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it's is it at six ten?
I don't use Twitter much, so if
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you're trying to find me on Twitter, I go on and check it like
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every couple of weeks. But yeah, I'll have to get that for you.
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Uh. I'm not really on TikTok. Uh those are the big ones.
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Facebook. Uh not really. I
don't have like a Facebook bait.
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I just have like my personal one, but Instagram, Snapchat, YouTube.
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pod Chaser, Spotify and spreaker Once
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Derek Snyris. Head over to Jakesnashhake
dot com What's again Jakesshake dot com ed,
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thank you so much for coming onto
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Thank you so much for having me. I had a blast. Thank
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you so much, Ed, I
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for watching. Thank you so much
for listening. Until next time, all
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the great with everybody good. I'm
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