EP 17 - Crying, Screaming, Podcasting (Taylor’s Version) : An Interview With A Swifitie

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Hello and welcome back to another episode of I've Got Something to Say.
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I'm your host, Courtney, and my co-host is for reaching out already.
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You didn't tell me.
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I I started it.
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You didn't tell me you were recording.
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So today I am joined with one of the world's.
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I will literally argue that this is one of the world's biggest Swifties that have Ezer has ever existed.
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Danielle.
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Danielle came into my life because she forced my sister to be friends with her.
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And so she's just been a part of my life ever since.
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And we especially bonded over Taylor Swift.
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So that is what we are going to be discussing today.
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However, before we get into our topic, let's talk about our current obsessions.
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Danielle, what is your current obsession?
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Your wife's looking at me and I can't focus.
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You can do this.
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Okay.
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So my current obsession today would be Love on the Spectrum because new episodes dropped.
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Okay, I would also agree with that.
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Me and Kristen are watching.
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I did see a spoiler on TikTok.
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I'm a little bit upset about, but that's okay.
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That's okay.
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It's hard to avoid.
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It is.
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It is.
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I do also love who's your favorite though?
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Connor.
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Literally same.
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When he was like doing that whole thing with his mom and the knife, and he was like, Go get her.
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Go get her.
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And she's like, You're a smart ass.
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I just finished the London episode.
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Okay.
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They were getting ready to leave for London.
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Okay.
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So that's where I'm at currently.
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It's a good episode.
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I like the newbies.
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I do like the newbies too.
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They're really funny.
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Yes.
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I I do, I do love them.
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My current obsession today is The Housemaid.
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We just finished watching before you got over here.
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I haven't seen it.
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Did you read the book?
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No.
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Okay.
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So my sister wanted me to read the book.
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She said, it's literally so good.
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That doesn't shock me.
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Could not get into it.
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Okay.
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I've heard it's great.
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But like I also didn't know the premise of the book.
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I like obviously like a insinuated.
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Like I also, like, okay, I assumed that like the housemaid that was hired and eventually hooks up with like the husband of the house.
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Like that's just kind of like I was like, okay, that's totally the vibe.
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Damn, that was so fucking good.
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Like it was I've heard it was good.
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It was a little like it's kind of it's just it's like a thriller, but not like it's not scary by any means, but it's like a psychological thriller.
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So like you're kind of like trying to figure out who like the evil person is.
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Okay.
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And like you don't know.
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I like Amanda Seifrid.
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I love her.
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She was so good.
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Kristen just told me that she has a belly button ring.
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I wouldn't have guessed that actually.
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Yeah, no, she like talked about in an interview recently that she's always had a belly button ring, and the only time she's ever taken it out since she was 15 was when she was pregnant.
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Oh, yeah, I love her.
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I loved her on Mamma Mia.
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Me too.
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That movie, I can't I can't watch the second one.
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I have like a whole emotional.
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No, I have an emotional tie to it.
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Can't tell you what it is.
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Yeah, yeah, it is good, but it's not my favorite.
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Okay, so the reason why I can't watch the second one is because it makes me cry too much.
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Because when I watched Mamma Mia growing up, or the mom that's played by Merrill Streep, reminds me of my nanny, which is my dad's mom.
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And she passed away because she had long, blonde, like kind of wavy hair.
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Okay, very hippie.
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And so like it really reminded me of her.
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Well, then the second movie is all about how she's dead, and like the main like significant like things that like tie her in, like her younger self, because it's like all about her younger version or whatever.
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She's wearing a butterfly necklace, and then like in the final scene, I'm literally getting goosebumps.
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Oh gosh.
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In the final scene, when Amanda Seyfred is singing to her dead mother, she's wearing a butterfly dress.
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I literally have a butterfly tattoo on my body for my name.
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Aww, so that's sweet though.
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The first time I watched it by myself, by myself in the movie theater, I was uncontrollably sobbing, like literally loudly sobbing.
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And I had to like run out of the theater because I was so embarrassed because I was crying so hard.
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It's okay.
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I cried all the time.
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Same, same.
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I'm behind on all that because I just late binged Bridgerton.
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Okay, I have not watched Bridgerton.
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Okay, well, someone told me to watch it finally, and I didn't.
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I loved it, but I was mad after season one because no one told me about the Duke not returning.
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Spoiler alert.
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Yeah, he didn't come back.
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Yeah, no one warned me about that.
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Yeah, that was really sad when that news broke.
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Because I did watch like the first, second, and I think the third season.
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Yeah, I'm obsessed with that.
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And then I stopped watching because I was like, I just can't get into it anymore.
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I enjoyed it, but yeah.
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Yeah.
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No season's as good as that one.
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No, no, the first one is definitely the best.
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The best.
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The best.
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Okay, I don't want to spend too much time on our current obsessions because one thing about me and Danielle is that we could talk about Taylor Swift all day.
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Literally until we were blue in the face.
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So we're gonna jump right in.
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I dream.
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Have a little intro.
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Taylor Allison Swift was born on December 13th, 1989.
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She is an American singer, songwriter, and influential pop culture figure, known for her auto-biographical lyrics.
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I don't know why that word was smaller for me.
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And artistic reinventions.
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She is the highest-grossing live music artist and is and one of the best selling music artists of all time.
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All time.
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All time.
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Ever.
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Okay.
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The first question that I have for you.
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Oh god.
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Okay.
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Do you remember the very first time you listened to Taylor?
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Yes, 100%.
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Okay, tell us about it.
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Oh my god, it's gonna show my age.
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Okay.
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But this is why I'm gonna I'm what they call a senior Swifty.
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Yes.
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We are the cool ones.
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Yes.
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Not the annoying new age ones.
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New age ones that need them to get it.
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Came out.
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The Eros Tor.
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The Eros Tor, yeah, they don't get it.
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Okay.
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And all the folklore evermore people that don't understand.
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Right.
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Taylor Pree that.
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Okay, anyway.
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I was junior or senior in high school.
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I'm pretty sure on a school bus on a way to a varsity football game.
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Because I cheered and Tim McGraw played.
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And you said And I said, Damn.
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I love Tim McGraw.
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So that's it made me and it made me listen to it.
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So that's what that's what sold you was the fact that you loved Tim McGraw.
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Tim McGraw, another artist.
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Yes.
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And she sang about Tim McGraw, and you said, okay, now I'm obsessed with her.
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Yep.
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Then I want to say, and I hope I'm not wrong, because this would be embarrassing, but you didn't let me research this.
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Oh, I'm so sorry.
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I'm pretty sure after that, what was her second single?
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Should have said no.
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Because then that was just, or it was I don't remember her second single.
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Debut's singles were Tim McGraw, Teardrops on My Guitar, Our Song, Picture to Burn, and should have said no.
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Okay.
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It did not tell me what order that they came out.
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Okay.
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Well, I just remember that is also engraved in my head.
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Just screaming it senior in high school.
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Should have said no.
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Yes.
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Were you cheated on?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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See, me, yes.
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I remember I probably came in.
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Okay, I knew who Taylor Swift was.
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Okay.
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And again, I am not like incredibly younger than you, but like I there is an age gap.
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Yeah.
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I'm the same age as Taylor, Allison Swift, a little older.
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Okay, so I was born in 95.
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Yeah, I was born in 88.
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I remember like in middle school.
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I remember her being an artist or whatever.
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And I thought she had really pretty hair.
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Beautiful girls.
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I have a thing with blondes.
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She was so cute.
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But it wasn't it wasn't until like Speak Now when I the the first time I listened to Last Kiss.
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Okay.
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Girl, I've never had my heart broken at that point.
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I had never first song you remember listening to?
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Because I wept.
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I said, Oh my oh my god, uh, all of those guys that burned me that don't actually exist.
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I'm so mad at them.
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That's so funny.
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I was so like distraught over these.
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Like I would like make up love scenarios in my head.
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You would hate me for this.
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Last Kiss is not one of my top songs from Speak Now.
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Oh, really?
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No, it's not.
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But Speak Now is one of my all-time favorite albums ever.
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Really?
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Yes.
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Interesting.
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Yeah, no, Last Kiss like was like ingrained in my mind.
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It's a great song.
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Don't get me wrong.
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It is.
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And it's really monumental to the developing brain of a 100% 14-year-old girl.
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Just like everybody says, and it's true.
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Yeah.
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Like I every stage of life, I hit the same time as she does.
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I feel like I also always cry to never grow up.
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Yeah, I can't even I can barely barely listen to that after I had the kids.
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Okay, okay.
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It really got bad when my sister had the best girl.
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Quinny.
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Yeah.
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Because I was like, oh my god.
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And just really quick, I need to rewind for the intro.
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You need to make sure you say I'm Rebecca's best friend, not just a friend.
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You are Rebecca's best friend.
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You didn't say that though.
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You said I forced her to be friends.
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Best friends.
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You you forced her to be best friends.
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Best friends, thank you.
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Best friends.
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And now you're just a part of the family.
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And you literally She listens to Taylor now, though.
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She does.
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Yeah.
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And you also now come to our Thanksgiving.
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Yep.
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So that's amazing.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So that would answer my second part was like, what is your earliest memory?
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Yeah.
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High school, senior year.
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Yeah.
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That's that's wild.
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Okay.
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So I have some really these are gonna give me goosebumps.
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Oh my god, okay.
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Okay.
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These are stuck it on the spot stuff because I No, no, no.
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Fine, it's not a question.
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It's not a question.
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Oh I'm I'm going to read her record-breaking facts.
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Oh, okay.
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She is one of the only artists to win album of the year four times.
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Four times.
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Do you know what albums?
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Yes, of course I do.
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I know which ones not that she should have.
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Okay, well, what albums did she?
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What are the four?
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Fearless.
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Yes.
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1989.
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Yes.
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Folklore.
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Yes.
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Midnights.
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Yes.
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You're amazing.
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Should have been towards your post support rent.
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Oh my gosh.
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I agree.
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That was the best album.
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Yeah.
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Not my top, but it's deserved album of the year.
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Yes.
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She has a total of 14 Grammys.
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Oh god.
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Yes.
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Never.
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I know what she's never won.
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And we're going to get it this year.
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What is it?
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Song of the Year.
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Oh.
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She's never won it.
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Never in her entire career has she won Song of the Year.
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That's very interesting.
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And I did not know that.
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Fact-check me, but I'm pretty sure and I think we're going to take it home with Fate of Ophelia.
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Really?
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She's never won it.
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Can we fact-check it?
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Yes, I will.
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I think that's the grammy.
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She's never won a song of the year.
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No, she has not.
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You were right.
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Once again, Danielle knows the fact.
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I know it all.
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Yeah, but I think we're gonna take it home.
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I I we got a good contender.
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I I there are definitely other songs that should have won it.
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Yes, 100%.
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She holds the record for the most number one albums by a female artist in history.
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She is the most streamed artist in a single day on Spotify.
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As of March 2026, Taylor has won over 700 awards from more than 1,200 nominations.
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700?
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700.
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Should have been 701 for album of the year for Compose Department.
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She is the most awarded artist in AMA history with a total of 40 awards.
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Is that the one that just per that we just watched?
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American Music Awards.
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No, that was IHAR Radio.
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Oh my god, her and Travis, okay.
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Right?
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Okay.
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She holds the record for the most video of the year wins with five awards, but a total of 30 AMAs.
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No, I think that was supposed to be VMAs.
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Sorry.
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Sorry.
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VMAs.
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Okay, okay.
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Yeah.
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I could see that.
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She has 49 Billboard Music Awards.
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She is also the most awarded artist in iHeart Radio history with a total of 41 awards.
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Awards.
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Yeah.
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You know what's crazy?
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Yeah.
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It's some of her best songs she's never put out on the radio.
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And that's how successful she is.
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What do you mean?
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Oh, like like you mean the ones that weren't singles.
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Yeah.
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Or some of the ones that, you know, in my opinion, some of her best songs ever.
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Oh no, I totally agree.
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I totally agree.
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Because like I feel like people that like complain like her music is so like mainstream and like annoying.
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It's for she's trying to make money.
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Yes.
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She's trying to make her career.
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Her discography is unmatched.
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Unmatched.
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It's I'm waiting for millennial punk emo album.
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Her lyrics literally she has some of the saddest, saddest lyrics.
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Saddest.
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That hit home.
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Unfortunately.
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Yep.
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Okay, now this one is this one is going to be probably where we are going to disagree on those.
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Okay.
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We're going to go over our top albums.
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Okay.
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What is your number one top album?
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Oh my god.
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This is very special.
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Actually, actually, let's go backwards.
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Yeah, let's go backwards.
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I wrote my list out five times.
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And I just kind of went with the ones that I don't know.
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It is what it is.
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Okay.
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What is your number 12?
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Davio.
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Really?
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Easy for me.
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I just went with it.
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So it was easy.
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It's her first album, her worst album she's made because it's her first one.
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I love it.
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I don't know.
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It has like a soft spot.
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Well, of course, but it's fine.
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Mine was Fearless.
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No, that's my next.
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But I love Fearless, actually.
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I love Fearless.
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Okay.
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What's your number 11?
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Fearless.
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Oh, right, right, right.
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You just I feel like you're gonna be really mad at me for this.
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No.
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Red.
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What?
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Yeah.
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For 11?
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Yeah.
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That's disappointing.
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I know.
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I could see that though, especially because your age when the album came out.
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I think sometimes people's rankings and opinions is depending on where you were at in your life of when that album dropped.
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Yeah.
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So I could see that.
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And I put like, okay, I went off of like OG.
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I did not go off of like Taylor's version because read Taylor's version when that came out, came out at a very monumental time for me.
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I was literally so heartbroken.
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And you didn't like the album?
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No, I did, but just doesn't rank up there.
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Yes, because there were other albums that I get it.
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Came out at like the perfect time.
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Exactly.
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I agree.
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And I did not go off of Taylor's version either.
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Okay.
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I support Taylor's version.
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Don't get me wrong.
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No, same.
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But no, I base it off.
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I love listening to Baby Taylor's voice again.
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Same.
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I think that's why I like debut.
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Yep.
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Um actually you're gonna be really mad at me.
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You might get mad at me for this number.
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Okay, what's your number 10?
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I went, okay.
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When I couldn't decide, I went off of how many songs I liked the least per album.
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Oh my god.
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I hate to say this because sometimes I love this album.
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Lover.
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I know.
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Yeah, but like that was when I think she was gaslighting herself to be in love with Joe.
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Yeah.
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We will have to talk about that because I knew we knew when they broke up.
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Okay.
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But yeah, I love the album and I love me.
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I hate everyone that hated on me.
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It's a bop.
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Oh no, I hate that song.
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I love the song.
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Oh well, I love it.
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If it was on a piano, everybody would have loved it.
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Yes, I don't like Brendan Uri though.
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That makes sense.
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But it's a good song.
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She was so excited, and the fandom hated her for it.
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She was excited, and I can recognize that.
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And I can recognize that the lyrics are good.
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Yeah.
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But Brendan Uri ruined it for me.
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I get that.
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I cannot stand him.
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After glow is probably my favorite song on that album.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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Or Daylight.
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Damn it.
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Good call.
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Shit.
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You're scared, Stella.
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Sorry.
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It's okay.
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Okay.
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What's your 10?
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My number 10 is speak now.
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That is upsetting.
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I know.
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That is that album's like it came out.
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Like, that was like the first album that I really remembered, like when it came out.
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But I don't okay.
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I I will be a hundred percent honest.
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I was a closet swifty for a while.
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Okay.
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So like like I tried to not like her.
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Oh, that's upsetting.
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Because it was like not the cool.
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I get it.
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I get it.
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You were younger.
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Especially because I was in high school when she was getting the most amount of correct.
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So I was like, I don't like her, but then I was like secretly listening to the songs by myself.
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Oh my god.
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I can't believe you put speak now for that.
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That's that's that album hits for me.
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Okay.
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What's your number nine?
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Red.
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Okay.
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I put it there.
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I love it though.
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I hate it.
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I this gets hard because I love I do love red.
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Red is was slept on back then too.
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Yeah.
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I put debut.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I could see.
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I was like, they need to be like not like at the very end, but like more towards the middle.
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Now I feel about it.
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But there's so many good albums that like the middle kind of like came towards the end.
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Okay.
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I get it.
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Number eight.
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This is gonna shock you.
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Before the vault tracks, 1989.
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Okay, I can see that.
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Yeah, I can see that.
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Love it though.
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I mean some bangers.
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So like the next three are pretty inner interchangeable for me.
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But I put at number eight, life of a showgirl.
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Get out of here.
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I don't want to talk to you about that.
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Just because I don't know if I've like like I love it.
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I loved it from the get-go.
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Like the first listen, I said, no, I like that.
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Yeah.
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And a lot of people did not.
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Yeah.
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Losers.
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The more that I listen to it, the more that I like it because I feel like let a girl be fucking happy.
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She's so happy.
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And I love it.
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I love the album.
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We could talk about that when we get to my ranking of Showgirl.
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Number seven.
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What do you have?
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Speak now.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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I have a lover.
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Okay.
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Oh, look at those like the swap.
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So, like lover, I I listened to at the beginning of me and Kristen's relationship.
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Oh, so it has a special meaning.
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Yes.
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I get you.
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Because we we walked back in to our reception after we got married to paper rings.
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That's a banger.
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I used like we literally I got two lover songs of surprise songs.
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Like I wrote my surprise songs down.
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So I could make sure.
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I wrote down all my surprise songs I got over my Airstore journey because I figured we'd talk about it for a quick three minutes.
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Yes.
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I I did I do have a question about your concert experience.
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Okay.
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But that's good.
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I just speak now as yeah.
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And when she in the middle, it's like hard.
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Like they're put out those lyrics about you.
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She's not a saint.
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No, she's not what you think.
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She's an actress.
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Oh she's better known for the things she does on the mattress.
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Was iconic.
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Literally.
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It was iconic back then.
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And I was the same age as her.
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So I was like, I also am sad that she changed it.
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Oh, yeah.
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It was so stupid.
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I get it, but like you have like no haunted means anyway.
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Speak now for me.
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Yep.
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Okay.
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You're gonna mine five and six for me are the same exact.
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I will not argue with anybody about it.
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One is not better than the other.
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It's Folklore Nevermore.
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Sorry, they're the same to me.
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I love them both equally just as much.
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I love different songs on different albums, actually, but I love the albums equally.
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I semi-agree.
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Okay.
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My number six, though, was 1989.
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Okay.
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And then my number five was Midnight.
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Oh my god, I can't even talk to you.
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I know.
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Midnight?
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I know.
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I know Courtney.
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I know.
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It's so good.
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You know that's like my top album.
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No, literally, literally, and everything from like seven and up is just like hard.
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No, I get it.
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I get it.
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Okay.
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Number four.
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This is hard for me because this has changed since she's had the amazing album drop she's had in the last four years.
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Okay.
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And I was a fan till I die.
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I was at the concert.
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Reputation.
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I have reputation as four, too.
00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:14.880
Yeah, it's okay.
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Oh my god, I feel so really we agree on one.
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Oh my god.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Number three.
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For me.
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Life of a showgirl.
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Okay.
00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:28.160
Oh, that makes me curious on what your number one is.
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Oh, it was tough.
00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:33.440
Okay, so my number, my number three is Evermore.
00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:34.079
Okay.
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What's your favorite song on Evermore?
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Okay, I I'll be honest.
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I have to look at the set list to know which is what.
00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:44.079
Because they're they're like the same, like the same vibe or whatever.
00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:45.279
No, they're the same vibe.
00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:49.920
Because I have very specific songs that I like from from, you know.
00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:50.880
I agree.
00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:55.279
I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I could take my favorite from each album and put it on one album.
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Oh.
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Yes.
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And you have to look at the deluxe version always.
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Always.
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Always.
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Oh, tolerate it.
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So good.
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So good.
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But also right where you left me.
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It's one of the best deluxe songs, besides New Romantics.
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I love New Romantics.
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Besides New Romantics.
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Okay, sorry.
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Okay, so what's your number two?
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Listen to me.
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Number one and number two are very hard for me.
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Okay.
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But for her, the albums, because I just listened to this one front to back.
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I have number two, and this kills me to say it, midnights.
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And that is that I'm a midnight's girl.
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Maroon is still my ringtone since October of 2021 when it was released.
00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.200
And you you missed Maroon.
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By one night.
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My number two is Torture Poets Department.
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Okay.
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I respect it.
00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:58.880
Because I had, I had to put folklore as number one.
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Number one.
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Okay.
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One would be torture post department.
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Yeah, the the top three for me are are really fucking hard because those those you can inject those into my vein and they will literally bring me back to life.
00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:17.519
If I ever die and you don't want me to die, literally just put those songs on and I will revive.
00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:19.359
Like Max from Stranger 3.
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I don't know if it's still just on Torture Poets.
00:22:21.839 --> 00:22:25.039
Some of those songs just get my they like itch something in me.
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Down bad.
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Down bad.
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Now I'm down bad.
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Bad crying at the gym.
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I mean, it's just such a banger.
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Should have been a single for another another segment.
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I'm trying to trying to think if that's the one I picked.
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Okay, we'll get to it in a second.
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Sorry.
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But yeah.
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Yeah.
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Anything she doesn't have a bad album.
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I don't care what Taylor Swift fan says.
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She does not have a bad album.
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I don't ever think that even there because there's definitely like I can I can she has an album for every single move.
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Okay.
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Okay though.
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Okay.
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I am quite literally petrified.
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Petrified.
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What?
00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:03.519
For her 13th album.
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Oh, I'm not.
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I can't wait.
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I no, I but I don't want it anytime soon.
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Do you see people need to stop rushing it for me?
00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:13.200
No, I don't want it anytime soon, but I think it will quite literally end me.
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You do?
00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:14.880
Yes.
00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:15.519
Why?
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In a good way?
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What kind of vibe do you think?
00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:18.319
Oh, in a good way.
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Okay, okay.
00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:20.079
She's gonna be married.
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I can't I won't be able to listen to when she actually has kids and writes those songs because I already tear up when she like sings about perspectives.
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:29.359
Like, don't even get me started about Robin.
00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:30.079
Yeah.
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Breaks me.
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It's not, I mean, but yeah.
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Okay.
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This was not like a segment that I had planned.
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Okay.
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But imagine you had a G-U N to your head.
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Oh my god.
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And you had to get rid of one song forever.
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Forever.
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Like literally never existed.
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What would it be?
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Oh, this is gonna piss a lot of people off.
00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:55.119
That I would be fine never listening to.
00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:55.440
Yeah.
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Shake it off.
00:23:58.160 --> 00:23:58.480
Yeah.
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That would be fine for me to never hear again.
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I heard it so much when it was on the radio.
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They overplayed it.
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It's a banger, don't get me wrong, but I'd be fine.
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Honestly, okay.
00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:12.559
This I okay.
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Mine would probably be, I don't know.
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I think me.
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Oh my god, what?
00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:22.400
Because I don't I don't love it.
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I was gonna say that or mean.
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I mean, mean, but you can't do that.
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Mean just has too much iconicness to it.
00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:30.480
I agree.
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:31.039
I agree.
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Yeah.
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What's her freaking name?
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Joey King's Bowl Cut.
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Everybody.
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It's iconic.
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And no, but one song that I will always skip is Ronin.
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Oh god, because I can barely listen to it.
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:48.319
I weep.
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Beautiful.
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It is.
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It is.
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That whole story is amazing.
00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:53.680
She still kept up with her.
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I mean, she's still I was getting so mad though that like when she was on the Ares tour, like everybody was like, especially when she was like at the hometown of like wherever they were like, she needs to play Ronan and she needs a rape play Ronan.
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:08.240
I said, absolutely not.
00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:10.559
No, and she went to London and she got to.
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Did you know that?
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I do not.
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Ronin's.
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No, I feel bad that I forget her first name.
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:20.559
She was in London, and then she got to sit with Florence from Florence of the Machines.
00:25:20.720 --> 00:25:21.119
Oh my gosh.
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:23.119
Oh my gosh, Florida.
00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:24.240
Oh my god.
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:25.680
I missed it by one night too.
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:26.640
I don't want to talk about it.
00:25:26.720 --> 00:25:27.599
But yeah, she got to go.
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:29.440
So she was at the Air Store in London.
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.319
Well, because she was also in, I want to say like Pennsylvania.
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:32.720
She was.
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I don't even know.
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.079
But yeah, it's I it's that was a beautiful thing.
00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:45.039
But she definitely at no point, I think will there is never going to be a time that I think that it is appropriate for her to sing that live anymore.
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.920
Do you know where she'll what song she'll never sing live?
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:49.279
As soon as you'll get better.
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:51.680
Oh, I'm literally going boos bumps.
00:25:51.839 --> 00:25:52.960
I can't listen to it.
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.200
Oh, it's beautiful, but wowzers.
00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:55.599
No.
00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:55.920
Yeah.
00:25:56.079 --> 00:25:56.799
Absolutely not.
00:25:56.960 --> 00:25:57.440
Yeah.
00:25:57.680 --> 00:25:58.480
Nope.
00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:00.400
It's beautiful, but heartbreaking.
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:02.079
Yeah, those, yeah, those two, yeah.
00:26:02.319 --> 00:26:02.480
No.
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:05.200
Can't can't.
00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:05.920
That's too emotional.
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:07.279
They were bad.
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:08.400
They're sad.
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:08.960
Okay.
00:26:09.519 --> 00:26:11.440
I don't know if Travis has ever listened to those.
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:12.400
Oh, I'm sure.
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:13.119
I do you?
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.759
The fact that he was a Swifty before they were.
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:17.200
Yeah, but 1989.
00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:18.880
Only 1989 he really did.
00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:21.519
But I know he has not heard some of her bangers.
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:22.799
Maybe by now he has.
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.359
Maybe by now he has listened to outside of the Aerostore.
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:25.599
Right.
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:26.319
Setless.
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:26.960
Right.
00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:27.680
That's true.
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:28.240
Yeah.
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:35.839
Talking about people pushing her to sing Ronan is going to bring me to my next question that I feel is very important.
00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:36.400
Okay.
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:43.680
Now, we know that Swifties can sometimes take it overboard.
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:50.160
And there are a lot of lines that are blurred or just downright crossed.
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:50.640
Okay.
00:26:52.240 --> 00:27:00.480
How do you feel about the parasocial relationship that people have with Taylor Swift?
00:27:01.440 --> 00:27:11.279
I think it is really bad for Taylor Swift fans because back in the day, and if I was more active, I swear on this day I would have met Taylor Swift.
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:13.599
If I was active, she was, I would have.
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:15.839
Right.
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:16.559
And that's what I'm saying.
00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:21.920
But she was, she was for a very long time interacting on Tumblr, Twitter.
00:27:22.559 --> 00:27:25.359
I mean, I think that creative people of false hope.
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:26.400
She got too big.
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:27.200
She's not doing that.
00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:30.240
I mean, she's just safety.
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:34.480
I mean, the secret sessions, I mean, amazing that she ever did that.
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.480
But I no, I think it's the young artists or the young, I'm sorry, the young fans.
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.079
They just have these expectations of her that are completely unrealistic.
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:42.799
I agree.
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:54.000
I do think that in today's world, with the way that social media is, it causes people's parasocial relationships to constantly cross the line.
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:54.559
100%.
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:58.960
And forget that these people are literal human beings.
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.960
Yes, and she probably, it's probably not even her posting on her Instagram.
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:03.599
Right.
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:04.480
Right.
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:15.680
And and I feel like you would agree with me on this, is like you can be the biggest diehard fan for somebody and still respect their space.
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:16.640
100%.
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:23.039
Like I know that we've had conversations about like people like wanting to know more about the wedding.
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:32.319
And like, yeah, as much as I love their love story, and as much as I love Tavis, I do feel like it is quite literally none of my business.
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:33.119
None of my business.
00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:34.720
I don't want to know about it until they tell me.
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:35.039
Right.
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:36.079
Don't ruin it for him.
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:37.359
She deserves it just like everybody.
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.519
But there have been so many things that have been ruined for her.
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:41.119
Yeah, I won't even read about it.
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:43.519
Like I could care less where it's happening when it's happening.
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:44.559
I know it's happening.
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:46.799
I want to know about it when just like the engagement.
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:46.960
Right.
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.000
It made me so happy that I found out when she posted.
00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:52.160
Oh, I would have been so mad if we found out.
00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:52.880
So pissed.
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:53.279
So pissed.
00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:58.720
So I just hope I just hope we find out after it happens.
00:28:58.960 --> 00:28:59.519
I agree.
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:01.759
Unless she wants it to be known beforehand.
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:05.279
I mean, listen, I would watch it live if they let me.
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:07.839
I would literally watch it like I watched the royal wedding.
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:08.400
100%.
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:11.039
If I had to get up at 4 a.m.
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.039
again to watch the royal wedding, I would do it.
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:15.440
Yeah, this is our royal wedding.
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:15.920
Yes.
00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:20.880
So I just did a deep deep dive not too long ago because I did an episode on Princess Diana.
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:23.440
And then I also just watched the John F.
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:24.720
Kennedy Jr.
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.359
and oh, what the fuck is her name?
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:33.759
Caroline something, their love story, which I knew that JFK, this is so off topic.
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:37.839
Just stick with me because there's a point to my my theory.
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.119
I knew that JFK had kids, but like I forgot that the fact that they grew up.
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:41.519
Okay.
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:42.079
Okay.
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:56.559
So what I didn't know was that around the same time that Princess Diana was killed was also the same time that JFK Jr.'s and his wife love story like took off and like everybody was like obsessed with it.
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:57.039
Okay.
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.640
And it was like the American royal family because of who his dad was.
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:01.119
Okay.
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:03.599
And the paparazzi followed them.
00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:13.440
So like she like in in the show, they were like showing how like she watched on live television them announce Princess Diana's death.
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:14.240
Death, okay.
00:30:14.480 --> 00:30:16.079
Essentially, because of paparazzi.
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.119
I beg to differ.
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:18.160
I think it was the royal family.
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.079
It was the royal family that hired and killed her.
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:28.559
But besides the point, like, so she's watching this because of the paparazzi not leaving them alone, and then she can't even walk out her door because the paparazzi are stalking her.
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:32.160
And they're literally calling her the American people's princess.
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:32.799
Right.
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:34.400
So, like, that's terrifying.
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:34.960
Yep.
00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:45.039
I will say that I do believe that paparazzi has somewhat gotten better over time, but now there aren't just like the hired paparazzi.
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:51.279
Now you have your regular Joe Schmok on the street that don't respect people's privacy.
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.440
I do think the paparazzi's better.
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:58.400
I remember growing up in the early 2000s watching Britt, Lindsay, Paris.
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:00.240
I mean, it was wild back then.
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:06.000
They had to go out with like sunglasses on and like umbrellas and stuff and like they got no privacy.
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:10.480
Well, I mean, remember when Taylor was in a suitcase and they wheeled her ass out.
00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:10.799
Right.
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:12.079
Because it was bad for her for a bit.
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:12.640
Yeah, right.
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:16.319
No, but now you just have crazy people who just think and I think that's worse.
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.559
People always say that I would be like that, but I wouldn't be.
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:20.559
I I never think people say that.
00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:21.920
Like you guys are so annoying.
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.920
I would be annoying to get to her, but if I was anywhere near her, I wouldn't.
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:30.079
You would literally, literally become friends with anybody.
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:30.799
Anyone.
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:32.559
You'd be like, hey, do you know this person?
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:33.440
Do you know this person?
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:34.559
Do you know this person?
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:46.240
But I feel like you like if you were brought into a room with Taylor Swift, I think that you would be so like you calm, so cool, calm, and collected until the moment that you walked out those doors, you would have an absolute.
00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:47.680
I appreciate that.
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:48.799
I appreciate that.
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.720
Because like I'd want her to know how much her music means to me for sure.
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:54.720
But I would not go, I would not freak out.
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:56.240
She wouldn't know how crazy I am.
00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:11.359
So the one time in my life that I was ever faced with a famous person who I thought who did, I don't want to say I thought, who did change my life was Hillary Burton, who played Peyton Sawyer on One Tree Hill on Tree Hill.
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:16.160
And I was 19, okay, frontal lobe not developed.
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:29.440
I drive down to North Carolina with my best friend at the time, Rihanna, and we went to a One Tree Hill convention, and I paid for a photo with Hillary and an autograph with Hillary.
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:29.920
Stop.
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:35.519
And I okay, first of all, for some reason, we convinced ourselves we needed to get a spray tan before we went.
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.359
We looked like fucking Oompa Wompas.
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.000
The picture is on Facebook, and it's so embarrassing.
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:49.519
But when I got my autograph from her and she hugged me, I literally word vomited.
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:53.039
You did into her ear.
00:32:53.920 --> 00:33:01.680
And then she grabbed me like by my shoulders, looked me dead in the eyeballs, and said, Thank you for saying that.
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:03.759
That's why I do what I do.
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:05.519
Changed my fucking life.
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.000
Is that when you like really knew you were gay?
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:13.119
No, what's so funny is I was not out at that time.
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:18.799
But I met a lesbian while we were there, and I said, Wait, why do I have these feelings?
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:21.440
That's funny.
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:27.039
No, she was never really like a girl crush for me because I just like felt like I was her.
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:27.759
I get that.
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:28.960
Unmisunderstood.
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:36.160
The most famous person I've met, I think, quickly thinking, would be the one and only Snucky.
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:37.359
Oh my god.
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.519
And it was in the cheerful version.
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:41.440
And yes, I went up to her.
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:42.400
There was no shame.
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:43.200
It was COVID.
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:44.720
Everyone had masks on.
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:49.039
She was, and I just I politely asked her, and we took a couple pictures, and I left.
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:51.200
That's probably the most famous person I've met.
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:51.519
Yeah.
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.279
Well, I mean, that was the only, I think the only famous person I've ever met.
00:33:55.599 --> 00:34:01.680
I also was standing in line, like awkwardly, waiting for my autograph from Hillary Burton.
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:06.480
And Chad Michael Murray is like two people down, and he and nobody was at his stand at that time.
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:12.639
And I look over because like obviously I'm looking at Chad Chad Michael Murray, and he looked at me, he goes, Hey, how's your day?
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:13.760
I said, Stop it.
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:15.119
I'm gonna shit my pants.
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.280
I'm gonna shit my literal fucking pants.
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:18.000
He's hot.
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:25.440
I yeah, I mean, he's a good looking guy, but like I low-key hate Lucas' character in Wintry Hill.
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:29.840
But that's a whole other day to talk about Wintry Hill.
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:31.840
We need a focus.
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:33.199
Let's go back.
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.039
Actually, you don't have to go back anywhere.
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:36.880
I'm flipping my notes back to my first page.
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:37.119
Okay.
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.800
Because now we're gonna go on to our next area of argument.
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The top five songs that changed your life.
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:44.639
Okay.
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.719
This was hard, and it's just yeah.
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.280
Honestly, I think that you okay.
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:53.920
I I will say that I low key kind of cheated because I have three honorable mentions.
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.199
Two, three, four, five.
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:56.000
I have six.
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.599
And this was like, I just thought about I don't know.
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.639
I feel like this could change on my mood any day.
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:03.920
No, a hundred percent.
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:06.159
So okay, you go first.
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:09.039
Okay, I'll I'll start with my honorable mentions.
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:09.760
Okay.
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:12.000
Because you have six.
00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:14.559
I'll just I'll just say all three of my honorable mentions.
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:15.760
You have that many?
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:16.320
Eight?
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:18.480
I I could keep going.
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:19.280
Okay, fine.
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:21.519
Okay, tolerate it.
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:22.000
Okay.
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:26.480
And that's one of my one of my favorite songs, and it really did so good to me.
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:28.159
Ruin the friendship.
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:29.599
It's so good.
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.000
I literally it scratches.
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:38.960
It scratches when she hits at the end of the song when she hits that chorus, Ruin the French.
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:40.480
Oh my god, itches my brain.
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:40.880
Yeah.
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:41.280
Yeah.
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:45.920
And then should have put a what of that is a banger.
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:47.280
I applaud you for that.
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:48.800
You Midnight's hater.
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:49.840
I applaud you for that.
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.119
Midnight's hater.
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.920
I love Midnight's, but that's a great song.
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:55.039
Great song.
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:00.000
It makes me feel so validated on the way that I was.
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:09.280
Okay, so like I don't feel like I was ever in a relationship at that age where like I like was manipulated and like groomed.
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:20.880
Yeah, well, for me, it's like but there were people in my life right after I got out of high school that I feel like manipulated me in the same way.
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:21.920
Right, absolutely.
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.440
And like made me make some not great decisions that I'm like.
00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:28.559
Oh my god, it makes me feel so validated.
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:29.599
Great song.
00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:30.239
Damn it.
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:31.760
I hate my choices now.
00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:32.480
No, no, no.
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:34.960
What's your number six?
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.679
I oh my god, in order, okay.
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:43.840
Number six, this is because this is like this makes me think of when Taylor was first getting started.
00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:46.239
And really how it was in high school, right?
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.840
But that's the way I loved you.
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:49.280
Oh my gosh.
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:52.639
That is something that's it, that is a big song to me forever.
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:56.000
Okay, I just yeah, I that's probably one of my favorite tier list songs.
00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:57.360
Yep, it's so good.
00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:58.320
It's so good.
00:36:58.559 --> 00:37:05.679
Yeah, I had to put this as number five because this song will forever hold meaning to me in my life.
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:06.320
Okay.
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:07.599
Sweet nothing.
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:11.840
It's a beautiful song, but I hate Joe Alwyn.
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:13.199
I do too.
00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:19.119
It's a beautiful song, though, and I'm sure that's very real things they experienced for a lot of the relationship.
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:20.639
That is me and Kristen's song.
00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:22.159
It's a great song, it's a beautiful song.
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.280
So, like that when we such a sweet song.
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:32.159
When we decided what was gonna be like our song for our wedding, and like we were like, we were like, it has to be a Taylor Swift song.
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.280
Yeah, I remember we asked, we would bounce ideas off of each other.
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:40.400
Yes, and and there were a lot of contenders, but like nothing hit that way.
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:50.480
And then when I listened to Sweet Nothing with the idea of that being like our song, and just the simplicity of the lyrics of just being like, This is my person, I don't have to change myself.
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:52.639
You don't need anything else, literally nothing.
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:53.199
Yep.
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:56.639
I was like, Okay, it's a beautiful song.
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:57.920
I am so in love with this girl.
00:37:58.239 --> 00:37:59.920
I wonder in love with this song.
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:00.960
It's a good one.
00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:06.400
I'm shocked it made the album because I am a believer that they were broken up when she dropped the album.
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.760
But anyway, or at least rekindling, but that's for another day.
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:10.800
Okay, okay.
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:12.559
Oh, my next one?
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:14.000
Yeah, okay.
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:15.840
Father figure.
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:17.679
Okay, so good to me.
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:22.320
I'm sorry, it's one of her best songs she's ever put out in her entire career.
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.360
It's probably also my age, the things I've been through.
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:27.360
That's just a yeah, banger.
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:28.079
Yeah.
00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:29.599
What what number are we on?
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:30.559
Oh, number four.
00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.159
And I kind of already talked about this.
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:32.639
Okay.
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:33.599
Last kiss.
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:34.639
Okay, yeah, good one.
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:35.199
I could see that.
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:42.880
It literally changed the trajectory of my girlhood and also my love of Taylor Swift.
00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:43.599
I could see that.
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:44.079
Yeah.
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:51.039
So mine next one would be haunted because that's one of my top off speak now.
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:52.079
Okay, okay.
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.119
And that song just scratches, it takes me back.
00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:55.679
Yeah.
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:56.320
Okay.
00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:57.280
Okay, number three.
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:58.719
I think you're gonna be shocked by.
00:38:59.199 --> 00:38:59.519
Okay.
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.119
Call it what you want.
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:02.159
Really?
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:04.639
I don't even have a rap song on mine, I should have.
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:05.440
Now again.
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:06.480
Great song.
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:07.280
Great song.
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:09.039
Wasn't that one of your surprise songs?
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:10.239
It was one of mine.
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:11.039
No.
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:12.400
It was one of mine.
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:13.280
It was not.
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:14.880
I had I was there.
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:22.320
So you that was my No, it was girl! You don't remember getting angry version called What You Want?
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.199
She was like literally in tears at Cincinnati.
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:26.800
No, that was okay.
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:34.880
So the reason why it's on my list is because that was the song that I listened to on repeat when me and Kristen first started talking.
00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:37.199
Literally, everything is what you want.
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.400
Everything is one too.
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:41.280
Great song.
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:42.000
Good choice.
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:44.239
Because me and Chris, like me and Kristen had this.
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:48.159
We we talked for like several months, and I was like, Does she love me?
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:48.960
Does she not love me?
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:49.679
Does she love me?
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:50.480
Does she not love me?
00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:54.000
And I was like, I would listen to the song, and I was like, Oh my god.
00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.400
I don't care what you call it, just I just want to be near you.
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:56.880
Right.
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:58.079
And I loved it.
00:39:58.239 --> 00:39:59.920
I I love that's a great song.
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:00.159
Yeah.
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.320
I can't believe you forgot that that was your surprise song.
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.559
No, I remember is it Ivy?
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:05.039
Yeah.
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:06.239
Because Aaron Dessner.
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:07.039
Yeah.
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:07.920
I forgot.
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:09.519
And we had another one.
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:10.480
We had a three.
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:11.760
Oh, yeah, because we had Gracie Absolutely.
00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:12.239
Gracie.
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:13.280
Good job.
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:13.519
Okay.
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:18.000
Which I did not know much about Gracie Abrams at that time, but now I'm obsessed with her.
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:20.480
I'm so glad I got to see her open for Indy.
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:21.840
It was like a full-blown concert.
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.079
Okay, well, I couldn't go because you got married.
00:40:25.039 --> 00:40:26.320
It was your own fucking fault.
00:40:26.559 --> 00:40:29.840
Hey, I didn't when we picked our wedding date, I she didn't have them.
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:30.320
I know.
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:31.679
She didn't have her dates.
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:32.480
I know.
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:33.440
My third.
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:34.480
Yes, what's your third?
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.079
My tears ricochet.
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:38.159
Okay.
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:40.239
Okay.
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:43.920
My number two.
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:44.800
Okay.
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:46.239
You're losing me.
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:47.599
That's my number two.
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:50.239
Yes.
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:51.440
Yes.
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:51.920
Okay.
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:52.880
Oh my god.
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:54.639
Do you want to know what my number one is though?
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:55.119
What?
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:56.559
My tears ricochet.
00:40:56.800 --> 00:41:00.079
My number one is obviously my loyal number.
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.320
You're losing me is one of the most heartbreaking songs she has ever wrote.
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:08.960
The fact that she has her own heartbeat in the song.
00:41:09.119 --> 00:41:10.719
I get goosebumps, though.
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:11.760
I can still get goosebumps.
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.440
Every time that song comes on, I used to not be able to listen to it.
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:19.039
I would just cry and cry and cry.
00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:23.760
But the way she captivates those emotions, every single person can relate to that.
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:26.960
I just remember we yes.
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:27.519
Yes.
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:33.760
We had we had some pretty parallel moments in the past five, six, seven years.
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:34.480
Yep.
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:35.039
Yeah.
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:36.239
What's that for us?
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.000
One of the best songs she's ever wrote.
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:38.400
Yeah.
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:43.440
And I love that Jack Antinoff let us know that she wrote it when she wrote it.
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:45.360
And it was before they even broke up.
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.039
Remember when he tweeted that picture?
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:47.599
Yeah.
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:48.320
So funny.
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:48.639
Okay.
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:50.159
Literally, so many goosebumps.
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:50.639
I can't.
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:50.960
I can't.
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:53.440
We had some of the same ones.
00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:53.760
I know.
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:55.840
We're literally That was exciting.
00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:56.320
That was.
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:56.800
That was.
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:58.239
I thought we were gonna argue more on that.
00:41:58.639 --> 00:41:59.360
No, no.
00:41:59.519 --> 00:42:00.960
Well, because everything is good.
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:02.400
Everything is good.
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:03.519
It is so good.
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:05.599
Okay, I have another question for you.
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:11.599
And we talked a little bit about your surprise songs, but I want to know more.
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:12.000
Okay.
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:13.039
Oh my god, okay.
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.920
Can you tell us all of the Taylor Swift concerts that you have attended?
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:18.639
Yes, I can.
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:20.000
And which one was your favorite?
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:20.880
Oh, that's hard.
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:21.199
Okay.
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.880
I did Cincy Night One.
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:25.599
No, I mean of all time.
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.159
I've only been the Reputation and then Four Eras.
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:28.800
Really?
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:37.599
Fun fact I had Speak Now tickets in Louisville, Kentucky, and on the way down, that was her first concert she ever canceled because she was sick, and then I couldn't go to the rething.
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.400
I never I never went to another concert.
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:41.360
I don't know why.
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:42.719
It's really weird.
00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:43.679
But I didn't.
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:45.840
So four eras tours and reputation.
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:46.880
Shocker, I know.
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.760
So you've been to five concerts, but only for two eras.
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:51.199
Yes.
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.760
And I wish I would have gone to more, but I didn't.
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:55.360
But I'm still a fan.
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:55.679
Yeah.
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:58.960
Everyone listening, just because you couldn't go to a show doesn't mean you're not a fan.
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Sorry for you being poor.
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I was.
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:02.159
Jeez.
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:05.199
No, concert tickets are insane.
00:43:05.599 --> 00:43:07.199
I just I don't know why.
00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:08.800
I was coaching and traveling a lot.
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:10.960
It was she always tours in the fall back then.
00:43:11.360 --> 00:43:11.519
Yeah.
00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:12.719
She always toured in the fall.
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:14.480
I think because she did a lot of arenas in those.
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:15.679
Yeah, for a little bit.
00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:16.239
Yeah.
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:17.360
But it's fine.
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:21.039
Okay, so tell us about your Ares tour experience and which ones you went to.
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:29.199
Cincinnati Night One, Cincinnati Night Two, London, and Indianapolis closing night.
00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:31.679
London, I was second to last closing night.
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:35.679
I wanted to go closing night because I wanted to hear frickin' so long London and it didn't work out.
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:37.440
I'm so mad about it still to this day.
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.119
And I miss Jack Antonov.
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And Florence and the Machines in London.
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And I miss Maroon by one night in Indianapolis.
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:46.559
Okay.
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.679
I was I was devastated that you missed Maroon.
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:50.480
By one night.
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:52.159
One night in Indy.
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:53.440
Was it the night that I got married?
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:53.840
Yes.
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:54.880
Yeah, I'm so sorry about that.
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:55.920
Oh my god, I cried.
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:56.800
I fell to the floor.
00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.119
I got banger surprise songs.
00:43:59.199 --> 00:43:59.599
Do not get me.
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:02.000
I will never complain about a surprise song.
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:02.320
Right.
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.000
But damn it, did I deserve maroon?
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:05.199
You really did.
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:08.639
I remember when I learned that you were going to London.
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:09.440
Yes.
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:19.519
And I literally was like, if there's anybody in the whole wide world that deserves to go to London and see a London show, it is Danielle.
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:20.480
That makes me happy.
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.039
And I didn't think I had to see Tortured Poets.
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:24.800
I didn't know that she was coming.
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:25.840
Right.
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:32.719
And and I, okay, because you've been a Swifty for so long, and tortured poets, obviously.
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:38.239
But like also, I like lived vicariously through your social media when we went.
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:41.519
And also just I love that you're traveling the world right now.
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:46.639
I just have to say literally every time I see that you're like you literally just went to Spain.
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I did.
00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:48.480
I was so excited.
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:49.519
I was so giddy.
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.000
I said, damn it, this girl deserves this.
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:53.760
Get divorced, and your life gets better.
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.320
It really literally the girl of the century.
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Blow up.
00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:04.000
And speaking of London, we have to make sure your listeners know that I wore my wedding dress.
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:04.480
You did.
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:05.360
I was gonna talk about that.
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:06.400
I wore my wedding dress.
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Cut it up.
00:45:07.840 --> 00:45:09.199
You cut your wedding dress to look like her.
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Torture poets.
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:10.639
Yes.
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:11.599
And you wrote on it.
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All mostly lyrics from like Smallest Man Ever Lived.
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:16.079
Right.
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Some black dog LML, some good lyrics from Torture Poets.
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And I wore the necklace and everything.
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:22.239
Period, sis.
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:22.639
Yes.
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And I did the friendship laces on my shoes.
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:26.320
But I wore the wedding dress.
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:27.840
And that was so epic.
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:28.960
To London.
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:32.320
Because if there was any way to destroy that wedding dress, that would be a good one.
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:32.960
It was that way.
00:45:33.599 --> 00:45:34.320
It's amazing.
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:34.719
Yeah.
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:35.519
Yes.
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Again, you deserved that.
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:38.559
Yep.
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:39.679
It was amazing.
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.920
But what would you say was your fave?
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:43.119
I don't know.
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:44.239
All of them for different reasons.
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:46.639
Like the first one, I got to go, I took my kids.
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.000
Which at the time everyone's like, hey, let me young Swiss these, they don't eat again, blah, blah, blah.
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:53.119
It's like my kids probably know more Taylor Swift songs than half the people there did.
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:56.159
They literally were quite literally raised on Taylor Swift.
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:56.960
They still are.
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.039
I mean, they they know, I mean, they know a time.
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:04.000
I mean, even little Logan is like he loves his favorite song's Exile.
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:04.480
Yes.
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:05.840
So he loves Exile.
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:07.440
And then the second night was fun.
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:10.880
Because we got behind the stage seeds and we went as ghosts.
00:46:11.119 --> 00:46:12.239
Oh my gosh, that was funny.
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:14.000
And then we got Gracie and Aaron Delsner.
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:14.800
So that was pretty cool.
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:15.119
Yeah.
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:20.800
London, obviously, just but I sat by myself in Wembley at first because I couldn't find tickets together.
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:24.880
So I sat in Lower Bowl and by myself, I just vibed for the opening set.
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.920
And then I went and found the pe my friends that I was with.
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:29.920
And then that I mean, I don't know.
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:31.519
And closing I in Indy.
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:31.920
Yeah.
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.880
Because I had good clo I had good surprise songs.
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.360
Was that her last show in the US?
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:38.079
It was.
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:42.000
And I went as fresh as a slammer and I wore a jailbird suit.
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:42.960
Oh, I didn't know that.
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:43.840
And I got the bolter.
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.400
I got banging surprise songs in Indy.
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.039
Actually, Cornelia Street and the Bolter.
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:49.360
Okay.
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:51.679
And then Death by a Thousand Cuts in the Great War.
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.960
And the Great War is Death by Death by a Thousand Cuts.
00:46:55.199 --> 00:46:56.559
Death by a Thousand Cuts.
00:46:56.880 --> 00:46:58.400
Is that when she was mashing them up?
00:46:58.559 --> 00:46:58.800
Yes.
00:46:59.119 --> 00:46:59.760
Okay, okay, okay.
00:46:59.920 --> 00:47:00.559
Oh yes.
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:03.360
Okay, so what were all of your all of your surprise songs?
00:47:03.519 --> 00:47:03.679
Okay.
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:05.519
I'm only me when I'm with you.
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:06.880
Oh, that's a good one.
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:07.840
Evermore.
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:09.519
Ivy with Aaron Desner.
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:09.920
I miss you.
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:10.400
I'm sorry.
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:11.039
With Gracie.
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Call it what you want.
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Angry version.
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Long live with change.
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.400
The archer with You're on Your Own Kid.
00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:20.880
The fact that you got the Archer.
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:21.840
I know.
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:23.360
How weird.
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:24.000
Right.
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:25.280
I really wanted the Black Dog.
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:25.599
It's fine.
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.519
Cornelia Street in the Bolter and Death by a Thousand Cuts in the Great War.
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:30.800
Everything but Maroon.
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.039
Okay, but those are still really fucking bad.
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:33.519
So good.
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:34.639
Oh, I was blessed.
00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:35.039
Yeah.
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.559
And I would have continued to go to concerts if I could afford it.
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:44.000
I remember after our and I still want to do this.
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:44.480
Okay.
00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:47.360
I remember after we went to her concert.
00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:50.880
I wanted to get a tattoo.
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:51.440
Okay.
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.480
That mashed up the two songs that I got.
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:55.119
I love that.
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:55.599
I want some.
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:56.159
Yep.
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:56.400
Okay.
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:57.199
What was your idea?
00:47:57.599 --> 00:47:59.280
The lyric and call it what you want.
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:00.960
My castle crumbled overnight.
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:01.440
Okay.
00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:02.480
And then Ivy.
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.880
I wanted a like stained glass castle window with Ivy going up.
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:07.840
Oh, that's so pretty.
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:08.880
I want to get it stayed.
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:09.519
Then get it.
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.079
You know, I got I got three Taylor tattoos at once.
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:13.039
I know I love it.
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:15.039
I just like I haven't like I don't know.
00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:15.760
I do it.
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.000
Haven't gotten a tattoo in like a really long time.
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:19.199
I got three at once.
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:23.519
The last tattoo I got was a semi matching tattoo with my ex.
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:24.159
So love that.
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:24.800
Oh my god.
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:27.280
That I still want to cover up.
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.440
Kristen also has a tattoo gun.
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:32.880
And I'm like, oh my god.
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:34.639
I'm begging her to tattoo me.
00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:35.360
Stop it.
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:36.400
You should get to it.
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:42.559
But yeah, no, I I wasn't mad my like surprise songs.
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:43.119
No.
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.679
But there were other ones that I did I was really jealous of.
00:48:47.840 --> 00:48:48.159
Oh what?
00:48:48.639 --> 00:48:50.000
Death by a thousand cuts.
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:50.880
It was good.
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.079
And I also was like upset that I didn't get enchanted.
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:55.760
You what do you mean?
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:57.199
No, no, no, no, not enchanted.
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.760
You ran because you got the full performance.
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:03.360
That's not what I meant.
00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:04.480
Long live.
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.280
I I'm glad I'm I'm sad that we didn't get long live.
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:10.480
Like we didn't because like she only did it like certain times.
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:11.119
I got it.
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:11.599
You did.
00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:11.760
Okay.
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:12.559
With change.
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:14.000
I did it.
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:15.199
I did in London.
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:15.519
Okay.
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.920
But I got the archer and I didn't want the archer because I already heard it in Cincinnati.
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.920
I wanted like, you know, Marion.
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.039
Oh, because she used to do it as a full song.
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:25.760
As a full song?
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:26.639
She used to do the archer.
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:26.800
Yeah.
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:29.599
It was beautiful with You're on Your Own Kid, and it really made a lot of sense.
00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:35.760
My favorite mashup she probably ever did was Is It Over Now and Out of the Woods.
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.440
I love when she did that mashup.
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:40.320
Yeah, no, I and every time she's in the Black Doc.
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:43.760
Also, not a question I had planned, but what are your favorite vault tracks?
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.199
Like not Taylor's version.
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:46.000
Taylor's version.
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:48.559
What album do you think has the best Taylor's version?
00:49:48.800 --> 00:49:50.320
Because I have my answer.
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.679
I mean, nothing can compare to the vault tracks of 1989.
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:54.719
That's what I was gonna say.
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:55.519
Give me a break.
00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:57.599
Oh my god.
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.480
Slut the radio.
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:02.159
Listen, listen.
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:09.840
For the young Swifties who were not around when this song was really wrote, and if it was because she said it was supposed to replace what?
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:10.639
Blank space.
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:12.079
It was slut or that.
00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:14.239
The world would not have been able to handle it.
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:16.159
Taylor was called a slut.
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.199
Oh my god, that's all they cared about was who she was dating.
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:24.480
The world would have and and literally it was not until she was fucking engaged.
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:29.119
Engaged that they stopped that she uh brought a man to an award show.
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:29.840
I know, I know.
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:35.840
Never once I love that song so much, and the world wouldn't have been able to handle it back then.
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:36.880
But is it over now?
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:39.760
Should have been on the original 1989.
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:40.239
Yeah.
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:42.559
Damn, that's that album has a lot of bangers.
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:43.039
Yeah.
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:45.519
But also, I am so I like Mr.
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:48.000
Perfectly Fine, though, also off Fearless, The Vault.
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:48.719
Yes.
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.400
Also, I mean, I'm so glad we got the 10-minute version of All Too Well.
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:55.119
Oh my god, could you imagine if we never would have got that?
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:56.880
It changed my life.
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:58.480
I agree, it changed my life.
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:01.360
I actually think it I almost think that changed her career.
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.159
Oh, that short film was incredible.
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:06.559
It was so it was so good.
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:07.519
It was so good.
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.239
The way that she casted it was perfect.
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:13.119
Oh my god, she's a fucking mastermind.
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:13.599
She is.
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:15.519
She's a fucking mastermind mastermind.
00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:20.960
Oh, and that concludes part one of my Taylor Swift episode with Danielle.
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Thank you so much for listening.
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As always, you can find me on social media on TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook.
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:32.960
And you can also email me at I've Got SomethingToSaypod at gmail.com.
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See you all next week.
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Bye bye.