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Hi everyone, I'm Lisa. And I'm Nick. And you're listening to It Takes Two, the podcast where
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two people take two movies with the same plot or premise and watch and discuss them.
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Welcome to our second year anniversary where we're covering possibly the most twinniest
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of twin films of all time. The first one we came up with when we initially
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came up with this premise. The first one anybody comes up with when they
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think about twin films, which was 1998's Deep Impact and also 1998's Armageddon.
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Yep. So I want to say that we, as our loyal listeners know, we standardly watch the lower
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rated movie first so that we have a better experience with the second movie.
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And I would like to say that in this instance, the ratings are categorically wrong.
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Armageddon is the worst movie I have ever had the displeasure of watching.
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What are you talking about? We watched The Meg the other day.
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The Meg was a better movie than Armageddon. Wow. So you're in the same boat as I am.
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Which is what? You hate Michael Bay movies.
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I mean, I think I knew that anyway, but considering even Michael Bay thinks this is his worst
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film, I don't understand why it's better rated than Deep Impact, which is actually a decent
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film and enjoyable film. I think there must be.
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And a more scientifically accurate film. I think there's more nostalgia.
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I remember seeing Armageddon in cinemas. I didn't.
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I saw it for the first time today and I regret watching it.
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Well, isn't it as bad as Mac and Me? Yeah, but there's like a level of enjoyment
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to watching a car crash like Mac and Me. Like I'm a person who routinely rewatches The Room,
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you know? I've seen Birdemic and enjoyed it.
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I did not enjoy Armageddon. Armageddon's in that weird dip. It's like a similar scale
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to The Uncanny Valley where like, you know, the worse a movie gets.
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The better it gets? Almost. And then there's like the dip where
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it's like, these are just awful. They're not enjoyable because there's no enjoyment.
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There's no enjoyment to be gained from it. And it's also not a good movie.
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Yeah, because I can understand where you're coming from.
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Like, if you're looking from an indie point of view, you would have not so great acting,
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maybe not so great directing, small budget, but like none of these boxes are ticked.
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Yeah. All of the actors are well-renowned actors
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in Armageddon. Like, I would rather rewatch Ghost Shark than
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ever have to look at Armageddon again. Fair enough.
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The best thing about it was the music because I am an Aerosmith fan and I enjoyed that.
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But I would have rather just sit and listen to an Aerosmith album than ever watch Armageddon
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again. All right.
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So anyway, back to how we normally do the podcast. These are both movies released in
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the same year about the US government discovering and keeping secret the fact that a lot of
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large asteroid slash comet is on its trajectory towards Earth and is going to create a extinction
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level event which will destroy all life on Earth, essentially.
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And in both instances, they send up a manned mission to drill a hole into the asteroid
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to set up bombs under the surface of it in the hopes of more realistically in deep impact.
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They want to actually push it in a different direction.
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In Armageddon, what they want to do is just explode the comet, which would not be possible.
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But in either way, what they're trying to do is create...
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I think you got that wrong. What do you mean you got that wrong?
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So the Armageddon, they try and cut it in half.
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Yeah, they're trying to break it up.
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No, literally the whole point is they're cutting it in half. So each half of it goes on the
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opposite sides of the Earth. That's exactly what they were there for.
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They literally... That was the original plan from the beginning.
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I thought they were trying to blow it up. No.
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The deep impact, the plan was to set it on a different course.
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Yeah, because that's the only... Because that is what you would have to do.
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Yeah, because physics. Yeah.
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But it's interesting because recently, I think it was a Japanese probe did it without having
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to put a nuke in a hole. I think they just rammed a satellite into a rock and it worked.
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So I'm not an astrophysicist. I don't even think I've got anything close to the understanding
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you'd need of basic maths to be an astrophysicist. But yeah, it's possible to redirect the trajectory
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of an object in space because basically other than gravity, there's no other forces.
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So it's... Yeah, but blowing them up seems like a really bad idea.
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Yeah, also it wouldn't work. Yeah.
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What they're trying to do in Armageddon wouldn't work. What they claim... What they're actually
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doing in Armageddon, the impact it would actually have on the asteroid is just changing direction.
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Yeah. Like putting a nuke 800... What was it? 800
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miles down? No, it was like feet.
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800 feet? Well, what were they even doing? Okay. Anyway, putting an asteroid however
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far down they were going... Oh, putting a nuke and then detonating it would not break
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it in half or explode it or whatever they think it's going to do.
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Yeah, we need Neil Tyson de Grasse. Hang on, we'll just give him a call and...
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I think he's got his name wrong. Neil de Grasse... Oh, Neil de Grasse Tyson.
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Yeah. Damn it, I'm not a real fan, guys. You said his name backwards.
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Yeah, I did say his name backwards. Yeah, so it wouldn't work.
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Did you like any part of Armageddon other than the soundtrack?
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And the fact that for some reason Michael Bay spent $20,000 out of the budget to replace
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Ben Affleck's teeth? Yeah, that's my favorite thing about the whole
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movie is that Ben Affleck got a whole new set of teeth. That's wild to me. That's insane.
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Yeah, one of his co-stars is famously known for his bad teeth, which is Steve Buscemi.
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And Steve Buscemi, while making this movie, wanted to get dental work and Michael Bay
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said, please don't, you've got a million dollar smile.
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And at the same time, days into production said, actually, I don't like Ben Affleck's
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teeth. They look like baby teeth on film. I'm going to pay $20,000 to replace all of
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his teeth. That's insane. Can you imagine going, like, get it, you interview for a job
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and you get the job and then like three days into the job, they're like, I'm going to replace
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every tooth in your mouth. Well, as someone who has in their own mind
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bad teeth, an employer said, I'm going to pay $20,000 to have your teeth replaced or
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like veneers or whatever. But I would not want someone to rip out all
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my teeth. Okay. But that's you.
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You would want someone to rip out all your teeth.
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If someone was paying $20,000 for dental. To rip out all of your teeth.
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Yeah. And put in fake teeth.
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That's fine. Okay, we're speaking about this, you as a
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person who does not have any fake teeth and me as a person who does, they're not good.
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And these are decent teeth that I have. Yeah, but you have a nice smile and I like
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looking at your smile. I hate my snaggle teeth.
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Yeah, but mine are, but like, first of all, when I first got teeth that were...
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When I first got teeth. No, okay. So context for our listeners who don't
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know the story. I was knocked down by a cyclist getting off
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a bus and I broke three of my front teeth and I got, initially they built up fake teeth
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with like the same stuff they'd make fillings with.
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And for over two, I think it was supposed to be two years and I think I kept them for
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five years because dental money. I literally could not bite anything with my
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front teeth. I don't bite anything with my front teeth
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as it is now. Okay. Well, I could not like have an apple.
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I could not eat corn on the cob. Like it was horrible.
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And then I've got these ones in now and they cost a stupid amount of money and they cause
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your gums to recede and they cause like a whole lot of problems that are going to be
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annoying for me for the rest of my life. And also they do not last.
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They're not going to be permanent. I am going to have to get implants at some
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point and then those cause a whole smil of other problems and I'm not looking forward
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to it. So I don't think it would be worth it to have someone replace all of my teeth
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with fake teeth when I have working teeth. So long as they still function, why would
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I let someone, like it's like, it's like if you was like, I'm going to rip out all
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the bones in your body and it's literally what they did to Wolverine.
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Yeah, that's what I want. I want metal teeth. No, it's not good. It's not good.
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Anyway, I would like to congratulate Lisa for going on a Nick based rant that was a
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completely unrelated subject to the movie. I can hear Floyd's keyboard as we speak.
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All, all I could think about. So I started reading some of the Iodb trivia before the
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movie and you were like, stop because you haven't seen this movie or wait till the end
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of the movie. Armageddon just for context.
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And literally, I'd only read like four pieces of trivia and one of them was the teeth thing.
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And so for the whole movie, every time Ben Aff opens his mouth, I was looking at his
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teeth and I was like, you know what, they do look really good. And then it was like every
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time anyone else opened their mouth, I was looking at their teeth. Bruce Willis has a
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chipped front tooth. I don't know if he permanently has that. He definitely had it in that film.
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And I was like, why didn't they like it was so, so cheap for them to just fix that chip.
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So what you're saying is, is that Hollywood should once this writers strike is over, once
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the acting strike is over, they should just have instead of doing what they did with Batwoman,
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which was right off a movie as a tax credit, they should just people should make indie
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movies where they just all the actors and the staff and crew just get all dental work
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done.
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And that's how they write it off. I'm saying, no, I like this idea. I'm going to start an
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indie movie. If you hate someone's teeth so much to the point that you pay $20,000 to
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replace all their teeth, why would you not also pay like $400 or whatever it costs to
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cap the one, your lead actors chip front tooth?
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Or maybe Bruce Willis being a rough neck oil driller.
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He's also a rough neck oil driller.
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Yeah, but he has to be the handsome one. The handsome one.
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Handsome people don't have small teeth.
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Yeah. Handsome man gets a girl and then their father in law gets blown up saving the planet
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giant asteroid.
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Here's my two cents. It's actually going to be like four to 20 cents.
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Here's my tooth.
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Yeah, here's my tooth.
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The Deep Impact is more of a family orientated adventure because it is more a human story
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that focuses on the people involved around the mission.
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Like the people trying to just live through this catastrophic Armageddon extinction level
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event where Armageddon is like a drinker terrible beer that your dad grew up drinking and you
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drink when you were 12 and you'll drink until you die of sclerosis of the liver.
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What does alcoholism cause?
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It is the most lifted truck oversized American flag, bear in hand, riding off into the sunset
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like with a lasso on the truck, horns like riding it like a horse rather than a vehicle.
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You know what else it is?
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Like a movie because like at least in Deep Impact, at least in Deep Impact, they're like
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the president who's played by Morgan Freeman rather than generic old white guy number seven
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is he's like, oh look, I've already told every ambassador for every other country. Now I'm
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going to tell you guys versus it's like the mission's already launched, they're there
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and then Shanghai gets hurt and they're like, oh it's become public now. It's like you will
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Canada you're hiding it from like it's literally going to destroy the Pacific. It's going to
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destroy the Atlantic like the entire Pacific coastline. I know Canada is not very populated
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there but still like give your allies, give NATO a heads up like anything but now they're
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just like no.
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It's also a movie about a major catastrophic like natural disaster where climate activists
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are painted as decades evil and the heroes of the movie are oil workers. I wonder where
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Michael Bay got his money from. How do you make a movie about a natural disaster where
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your heroes are oil companies?
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Lots of money.
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Ridiculous. Just utter ludicracy.
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So the yeah it is a very different story even though it is the same story.
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Even though it's a rip off of Deep Impact because the writer of Deep Impact pitched
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it to a Disney production president at a lunch and they declined it and then they started
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producing Armageddon.
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A rip off.
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No it's everything in Hollywood is exactly the same way.
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No but they literally ripped it off.
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They do that all the time. You're like surprised about it.
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No no I'm saying that like you know it's a rip off.
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You know about the Houdini thing right?
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Yeah.
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Every single studio in Hollywood has a script ready to go for a Houdini movie and as soon
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as someone is in pre-production.
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It's like a Mexican stand up where one person pulls the trigger and they're all going to
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go.
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I know I get that but like this was a case of you know someone had this idea had written
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this movie and then pitched it to a studio that didn't want it and then that studio got
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someone to write the same movie.
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It was not that well debatable.
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Well there's also stuff that they cut from it that they changed it was supposed to start
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off.
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Do you want to know what the original script beginning of Armageddon was?
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It was a group of school children watching the stars and seeing the asteroid.
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Right instead of the old dude who has a terrible relationship with his wife screaming get the
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book get the book.
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Yeah yeah it was and also like it's just bizarre to me they had to cut a line out of Deep Impact
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because when the president was making his speech at the press conference where he was
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revealing the stuff.
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Morgan Freeman.
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Morgan Freeman yep.
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He says life will go on we will prevail and then after that in the script and they filmed
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it and then they had to cut it in post production he said this is not Armageddon.
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Why they had to cut it I would have left that in.
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They couldn't because suddenly Armageddon was in production.
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Well they were already you know they'd already done filming.
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They were like oh our movie is going to be a box office competition with Armageddon and
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we can't outright state this is not Armageddon in the middle of the movie.
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It would be very funny though I think.
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To square it up let's go over the characters.
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I'll start with Deep Impact because like I said it is a more human story it is the more
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like families trying to survive.
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It's funny because Armageddon is literally about a family but it's about one family.
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Whereas you see like nothing of other people on earth as opposed to Deep Impact where you're
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seeing almost exclusively the impact on earth and then the you know the people going up
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in the space is almost like a subplot.
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And then you follow three protagonists in Deep Impact and they're all very self-sacrificial
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as opposed to our Armageddon people who are a bunch of shitheads.
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So you have baby Elijah Wood who's the one who discovers the asteroid.
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And then you follow the reporter who's undercover, I think she's uncovering some sort of scandal
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possibly the President's mistress named Ellie.
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Google's Ellie on like the slowest.
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The thing that I found hilarious.
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This is pre-Google.
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Yeah but the thing that I found hilarious is when she's doing it she's like sighs and
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like wipes her brow like halfway through.
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She's wrote in four letters and typed enter and clicked on two links and she's like oh
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my god.
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This is the 90s okay there was a different time.
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Yeah but dial-up didn't physically drain your life force while using it.
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Okay the context for this though is that she thought she was following up on a story about
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a mistress and then she got like kidnapped by the FBI.
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Yes and brought in and met the President and then she suddenly realizes that like she's
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obviously stumbled onto the way deeper than what she thinks she has but she can't let
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them know that.
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I have a theory.
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This might track with you or you might have not noticed it.
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I only noticed it when I was watching it this time around because I've seen both these movies
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before.
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There's a lot of close-up shots of a brand of food.
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Right.
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That all happens to be in the like survival like the areas where she meets the goes in
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the back offices and meets the President.
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Was he the Secretary of the Treasury?
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So the guy who's responsible for the like the budget he's the one played by your boy
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James Cromwell.
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Cromwell?
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Cromwell?
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Cromwell.
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Yeah he wasn't there though.
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He was she went to see him first.
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Yeah but I'm saying that he has he's got the same brand of food.
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Right.
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And he's like I'm gonna spend the time with my family.
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Yeah.
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And he's like loading his boat up like that's gonna do anything like where the hell is he
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gonna go in Mexico.
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I don't think no I think he's retired so that he can literally just relax with his family.
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He's not going anywhere.
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Then why were they apocalypse sheltering?
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I don't know.
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Maybe they went to a cabin or something.
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So yeah my point being there is the same brand of food at the boat ramp and where she meets
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the President.
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Yep.
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And I think it was on the same side of like the weird TV they had set up in the in the
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room where she's presenting from for the news.
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I think it was the same brand.
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I don't know if there was like an abandoned plot line in the movie but it seems very odd
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like it almost seems that some multi-level marketing like background company within the
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movie is taking advantage of like the apocalypse because it seems very weird that the camera
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zooms up on the branding twice.
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I maybe just.
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She was just trying to piece together what the hell was going on.
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Yeah but the thing that shows up is the branding on the side.
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It's not like showing you like a case of cans with beans in it.
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It's literally like this brand of food.
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I don't know.
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That's just my two cents.
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I don't even know what to look up to figure that out.
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Okay well I'm not saying you figure it out.
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I'm just saying this is in my opinion something was weird about this this whole company thing
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and it just like fizzled out or they just abandoned this plot line.
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Anyway so yeah reporter Elijah Wood the crew of the space shuttle and who was the other
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character that I guess is the the girlfriend slash wife of Elijah Wood.
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Leely I think.
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Leely Zbyski.
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Yeah.
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Did I say that right?
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I think so.
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Yeah.
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I like her.
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I've seen her in a bunch of things.
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I haven't seen her in anything recently though.
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I don't know what she's up to.
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Yeah I went down the rabbit hole while watching it anyway.
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Ensure is the brand.
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Yeah.
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It is a sweet canned drink that's used to help gain weight for people who have had severe
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weight loss.
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Yeah weird eh.
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That is weird.
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It's like a corn syrup thing.
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And it was in both places.
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It's a high calorie.
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Like a survival food.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just weird to me.
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Anyway.
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Interesting.
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See I'm not crazy.
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It's a TV that's crazy.
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It didn't say you were crazy.
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I was just trying to figure out why or if there was anything to your theory there.
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Not that I found.
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It's like the you've seen.
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Someone's listed their entire the entire ingredients of it.
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That's weird.
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You mentioned Cloverfield multiple times well I think twice when we're watching.
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Did I mention twice?
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Pretty sure you brought it up twice.
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When we were watching Deep Impact because the Statue of Liberty's head is seen floating
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down the street which if you haven't seen Cloverfield is the Statue of Liberty's head
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is thrown into the street outside the apartment of the people you're following.
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Because that whole thing is about a Japanese company who the character is going to go work
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for who are doing a mining thing for like a superfood that's like a deep water kelp.
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And that's where Clover comes from.
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It's a big thing.
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But it's like in the weeds of like viral marketing and these fake websites that popped up for
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the company that the guy was going to go work for in Japan.
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It is so weird.
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And I just thought that there might have been some little sprinkling little garnish of that
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going on in Deep Impact.
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But clearly I'm the crazy one.
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I don't know.
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It'd be difficult if it's not been publicized it'd be difficult to find that out.
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20 years after the fact or 25 years after.
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Yeah a long time ago.
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Armageddon on the other hand is take a bunch of really good actors and give them a one
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liner personality where Steve Masini is the horny guy.
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By the way he did not like that.
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Because that's not how the character is written and he specifically took the role because
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he wanted to get away from those stereotypes.
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He was not happy.
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So yeah so he was pitched to him as a heroic geologist and he wanted to change from acting
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as lowlifes and things.
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And then after he was cast they changed the script to give him sleazy characteristics.
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And you have Bear who's a giant.
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Which Wilson brother is it?
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Owen?
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Yeah it was Owen Wilson.
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Owen Wilson is a cowboy.
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Owen Wilson might be the best actor in the movie.
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Yeah you get Bruce Willis' discount best friend and Liv Tyler.
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Bruce Willis?
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Discount best friend?
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What the hell was the character's name?
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Like I can't remember the guy's name.
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Which guy's discount best friend?
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Chick.
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Chick Chappell is the guy's name.
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Chick Chappell.
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Chappell.
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Paid by Will Patton.
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Oh yeah.
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I feel like I didn't even.
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Exactly.
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He survives the end of the movie as well doesn't he?
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Yeah and he's like he's the only decent character out of the whole lot because he's like.
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Billy Bob Quartern's character.
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Yeah yeah yeah but I'm saying out of the rough neck crow, out of the oil rigors he's the
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only decent character because all of them like they get released a day before they have
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to fly which is bullshit because of like quarantine regulations for being an astronaut because
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you don't want a virus or bacterial infection to go up into space.
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So they get released and he goes and visits an estranged ex with his kid and he's all
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like hey I just want to like just give the kid this and he gives him like a space shuttle
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model and the mum's all like he's a salesman the court said you can't come round here.
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He's like the only, Chick is the only decent character.
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But he can't be that decent because why?
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Because he's a gambling addict.
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He's got gambling addiction.
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Yeah.
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Literally one of the things he wants if they survive for the government to give him is
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like a crazy like all expenses paid trip gambling.
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But that means he's not decent because he hasn't like you know he could say especially
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if he cares about his kid and getting to see his kid again and not being court ordered
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not to see his child he could have asked for them to pay for him to go through like addiction
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shit like go to like a gambling addict.
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There is too much character development for a Michael Bay movie.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry it is.
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It is.
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It's written by JJ Amrams.
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What?
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What is?
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Are we good?
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Is it written by JJ?
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Well it's written by like a dozen writers but one of the main ones is JJ Amrams.
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You didn't know that?
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Well the screenplayers but the story's not.
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Anyway we've glossed over Liv Tyler who's in love with AJ played by Baby Teeth.
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Baby Teeth?
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Do I love Baby Teeth?
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Batfleck and she's the daughter of Harry who's played by Bruce Willis and Harry's pissed
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because his daughter is dating AJ and they have a big father daughter moment of like
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how dare you date someone you've been surrounded with your entire life and only know anything
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about them.
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It's so bizarre.
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I don't understand his whole relationship with AJ because like the whole time he's like
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I hate him I hate it because I never trust him I don't know and then he's like you're
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always like a son to me and I want you to marry my daughter.
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Yeah.
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It's like that's every layer of that is bad.
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Yeah.
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Did we talk about Robert Duvall in Deep Infant?
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No.
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Because he's the equivalent of Bruce Willis' character in my opinion.
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Yeah he's the long toothed like last man on the moon real astronaut like by the skin of
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their teeth and the hair on their insert word like astronauts like old school astronauts.
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Yeah because in Deep Impact the astronauts they set up are all young astronauts who have
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been...
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They've already done ever simulator stuff.
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Yeah so they've been training for ages.
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So that's this is the thing that pisses me off about Armageddon is like the time frame.
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Oh the time frame doesn't make any sense.
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Because in Deep Impact...
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Ben Affleck balled it up with Michael Bay when they were filming it and he's like this
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doesn't make sense why wouldn't it just be easier to teach astronauts how to drill and
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his response to Ben Affleck was shut the fuck up.
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Oh everyone hated it Bruce Willis refused to ever work with Michael Bay again to the
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point that they wanted Michael Bay to direct one of the Die Hard movies and Bruce Willis
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says I will not be in the movie if you get him directed.
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Literally you will lose John McClane if you bring Michael Bay in he will ruin this movie
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and I do not want to have anything to do with him.
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Well yeah what was I just talking about?
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I don't know.
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I was talking about Liam and then you started talking about something else.
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The old man astronaut.
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Yeah.
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The young crew.
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Something to do with the time frame.
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Oh yeah it's absolutely terrible.
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Because they give like 17 days or 18 days.
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18 days so in Deep Impact they first spot the asteroid two years before it's due to
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hit Earth.
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And then like when they send up the manned mission to try and deflect it it's still like
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10 months or something until it's due to hit.
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So they have all that time then to do their preparedness stuff and you know whatever.
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And I mean yes it does in the end come down to like an 11th hour kind of thing but in
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Armageddon it starts off 11th hour and they just keep getting another 11th hour and it's
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like how many 11th hours can you have?
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It's very confusing from a perspective of like how time because you get this weird montage
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of them doing astronaut training and like psychological evaluations and ripping an engineered
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piece of equipment to pieces and then putting it back together again and then practicing
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with it and they've got 18 days.
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17 days since Harry turned up.
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You're saying this like they have 18 days to train.
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That's not true.
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They only discover the asteroid 18 days before it's due to hit.
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So by the time they've figured out they need these oil rigors and they get the oil rigors
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on board they have 10 days to train.
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I thought Harry turned up only like what?
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They're given 10 days to get out.
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In fairness maybe it's still probably more than 10 days before it's due to hit because
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they have to launch after 10 days.
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No I'm pretty sure he said it's going to hit us in 18 days.
465
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Yeah they say that at the beginning of the movie when they first discover it.
466
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,360
It's so ridiculous.
467
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Because they took that down because I literally wrote like in capital letters how did they
468
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,240
not see it until 18 days before it hits.
469
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,360
It makes no sense.
470
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:29,400
I will go on for it because it feels like a meme and we're not doing it intentionally
471
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,480
but again in both these movies you have the twin towers getting destroyed.
472
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:41,120
Yeah it is a meme in that we have made a meme which is the like how many zero days since
473
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,640
zero episodes since we discussed 9-11 and we are absolutely discussing 9-11 again.
474
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,200
Why do they keep doing this to us?
475
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:56,840
Because in Armageddon it gets hit by so the asteroid goes through the belts that's between
476
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:02,960
Jupiter and Mars so it like shoots a bunch of shrapnel at Earth before the big giant
477
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:14,440
comet's coming and in that sequence like heaps of like famous New York landmarks get destroyed
478
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,840
including the twin towers, Empire State Building, Grand Central Station and I can't remember
479
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,840
the last one.
480
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,880
The twin towers don't get utterly destroyed.
481
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,680
No they're both, you see it in the background getting hit directly by a meteor.
482
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:32,360
Yeah and then it shows a shot of the south tower with the top missing burning which is
483
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,880
I think exactly how it happened when it happened.
484
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,000
Also that was their first indication so Armageddon opens with like a space station getting hit
485
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000
by these bits of debris.
486
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,560
It's a space shuttle.
487
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,040
And that it rains down on the Earth and that's when they suddenly notice that there's an
488
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,920
asteroid that has already passed Jupiter like surely they would have seen it.
489
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,600
No because that's the whole bit that Billy Bob Thornton makes is like our current budget
490
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,840
to watch the sky is one million dollars a year which gives us about three percent of
491
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,000
looking up.
492
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:14,760
Like I would love to see someone write like high level fan fiction about the universes
493
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:22,360
of both these movies after all of this happens because there'd be a lot of geopolitical change.
494
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,880
I mean so yeah so if we talk about the physical impacts on Earth in both of these movies.
495
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,640
France is destroyed, Shanghai is screwed up like millions are dead in Shanghai.
496
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,800
Paris is literally like nuked.
497
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Yeah Paris is off the map.
498
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,040
I don't know.
499
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,840
A huge chunk of France is gone.
500
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Obviously the whole East Coast of the US had rained asteroids on it.
501
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:56,360
In deep impact a small section so they accidentally split the asteroid and the smaller part of
502
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,560
it does impact but it impacts in the middle of the Atlantic.
503
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,240
It completely wipes out the West Coast.
504
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,240
Yeah no East Coast.
505
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,120
East Coast of the US.
506
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,800
No because Washington DC is on the East Coast of the US.
507
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,800
No sorry I'm getting confused.
508
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,800
I have been there.
509
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,480
Sorry I was getting confused between movies.
510
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:24,680
So it impacts in the Atlantic, it wipes out the East Coast of the US, New York City etc.
511
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,720
It goes like I can't remember how far they said it went in.
512
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:29,720
Several miles inland.
513
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:30,720
Several hundred miles inland.
514
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:31,720
Like 600 miles I think or something.
515
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:32,720
Is that right?
516
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:43,240
It's weird too because when baby Elijah finds his family after abandoning the fact that
517
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:52,920
he was in the lottery to get into the apocalypse shelters to save the human race if the mission
518
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,560
failed it says six miles to Virginia beaches.
519
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Yep.
520
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,680
That's on the East Coast.
521
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,600
Yeah but that means that they're not that far from the sea.
522
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,200
Yeah that's why they're trying to get to high ground.
523
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,200
I understand that.
524
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,840
He turns around the whole lower plain.
525
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:20,520
I understand that but like the wave doesn't make a lot of sense then because it was like
526
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:28,800
literally going in several dozens of miles inland and they're only six miles from the
527
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,400
sea and they escape by going up a very large hill.
528
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,040
The mountains in Virginia are yeah pretty significantly high mountains.
529
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,280
But it like literally just goes bloop at the bottom of the mountain they're on.
530
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:45,080
I assume it goes past the mountain range.
531
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:51,920
We're seeing it, we're seeing a mountain range where it's not going to sweep up over the
532
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,920
mountain range.
533
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,920
It'll go around.
534
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,920
That's not how tsunamis work but okay.
535
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,920
What do you mean?
536
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,840
It's not going to climb higher off the mountain.
537
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:08,360
Yes it would because that's what the whole point of surge waters are.
538
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,480
So when the wave, the wave isn't just like it crashes and then recedes like the regular
539
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,120
waves that the ocean does.
540
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
There's all that extra water behind it.
541
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,440
Yeah.
542
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,560
So it doesn't just like stop and then recede.
543
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,600
No I'm not saying it stops and recedes.
544
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,320
I'm saying it can't like suddenly increase in volume to go up a hill.
545
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,320
It's going around the mountain.
546
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,600
Where do you think the rest of the water goes?
547
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,760
Around the mountain and continue.
548
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,000
There's rivers through that.
549
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,000
It would follow the valleys.
550
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Okay.
551
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,000
How do you think geography works?
552
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,000
You're getting angry because you're off.
553
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:49,120
Anyway the other thing is they just do a throwaway line which is that oh you're also Europe and
554
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,120
Africa were affected.
555
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,520
Probably Ireland would be gone off the map if it was hit by a wave of that size.
556
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,520
Iceland possibly also.
557
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,880
Yeah but there's lots of countries you could say that about.
558
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,240
It would be very interesting to see.
559
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,640
Any islands in the Atlantic.
560
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:13,320
I don't know if New Zealand would be okay because we'd get protected by like South America.
561
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,320
And Africa.
562
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,320
Yeah.
563
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:21,560
We're in the middle so South America.
564
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,680
No it's hitting the Atlantic.
565
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,280
So you've got South America protecting you from one side and Africa protecting you from
566
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,280
the other.
567
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,640
Yeah and Australia on one side.
568
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,640
So New Zealand would probably be okay.
569
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:42,120
I think the water levels as a whole would rise which probably would impact New Zealand.
570
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,920
There would be some coastal areas that would not survive.
571
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,920
I don't think Patoni would be around.
572
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,920
It's not going to take a freaking tsunami to do that but anyway.
573
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Yeah I know but the tsunami is not going to hit New Zealand.
574
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,920
It's going to be just general water right.
575
00:39:48,920 --> 00:40:05,480
Anyway like I was saying it would be very interesting to see a story about a post post
576
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:15,560
like asteroid event because I'm pretty sure governments would be way more focused on never
577
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:22,800
letting it happen again and like focusing on because like the economies of certain areas
578
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,200
would be like screwed up.
579
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,080
International shipping would be screwed up for who knows how long.
580
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,560
Your port systems it'd be like COVID all over again except.
581
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,200
There'd be whole new bodies of water in places.
582
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,200
Yeah.
583
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,200
If the waters rise everywhere.
584
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,200
Yeah.
585
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:46,640
You know it would be interesting to see what the effect would be even on like the polar
586
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,600
ice caps and things like that.
587
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,160
Because it's sort of covered you've seen the second Independence Day movie right.
588
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,160
Yeah.
589
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,120
Yeah it would be similar to that in my opinion.
590
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Right.
591
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,880
Just less crap because that movie is terrible.
592
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,120
So which movie do you want to see a sequel to?
593
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Deep Impact or Armageddon?
594
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,160
Neither I want a generic one that could be either of them.
595
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:18,400
But they have very different impacts because one of them was massive tsunami and the other
596
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:25,720
one was like whole cities being wiped out by asteroids landing directly on them.
597
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:29,840
Yeah but you could make it vague enough where it was just like you know years ago heroes
598
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:35,440
sacrificed themselves to save the earth from the giant asteroid that was killing us all.
599
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:41,560
Here is the story of a rebuilt earth and our space station that shoots down asteroids that
600
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:47,520
have been shot from the other side of the galaxy by blood by plasma become a citizen
601
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,520
today.
602
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:58,040
It's a whole plot line of like Bruness Arias gets destroyed and they have to go to Klindathu.
603
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:03,080
They have to go to Klindathu Lisa to destroy the bug Menace.
604
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,480
It's all a prequel to Starship Troopers I'm telling you.
605
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,280
That doesn't make any sense.
606
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,360
It does make sense when you think about it.
607
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,080
So what you're saying is that we've already seen this evil.
608
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,080
Yeah.
609
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,080
And it's Starship Troopers.
610
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,080
I don't think that's accurate.
611
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,080
This is a prequel to Starship Troopers.
612
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,080
They're both prequels to Starship Troopers.
613
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,080
They're both separate prequels to Starship Troopers.
614
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Anything with a giant asteroid was fired by bug plasma from Klindathu.
615
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,880
Did they happen like in the same universe then?
616
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,880
Like which one happened first?
617
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:40,880
Armageddon or Deep Impact?
618
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,880
It was the dinosaurs first obviously.
619
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,880
No no Armageddon or Deep Impact?
620
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Well Armageddon looks like way too futuristic.
621
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,880
Okay so Deep Impact happened.
622
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,880
Parallel universes.
623
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,880
And then there's another.
624
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,880
Where we're in.
625
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,880
Not parallel universes.
626
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Yes parallel universes.
627
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,880
Parallel universes.
628
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,880
Parallel universes.
629
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,880
Parallel universes.
630
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,880
Parallel universes.
631
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,880
Parallel universes.
632
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:02,520
Parallel universes where Deep Impact they're still using steampunk until later.
633
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Until the Victorian era.
634
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,520
What?
635
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,520
Moving on.
636
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Yeah there's great performances of the actors even though like the acting, directing and
637
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,320
the dialogue is absolutely awful in Armageddon.
638
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,640
No I'm not segueing half of it back into the...
639
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
Are there good acting performances though?
640
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Yeah.
641
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,120
Are there?
642
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,120
Yeah.
643
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,120
From who?
644
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Um well there is that moment that you know every young couple have where you're listening
645
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:43,760
to your dad sing and you're shoving animal crackers down Liv Tyler's underpants.
646
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,320
Every young couple has had that moment.
647
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,320
Hashtag relatable.
648
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,320
Yeah hashtag relatable.
649
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,320
Hashtag this could be us.
650
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,320
If you answered my question.
651
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,720
Hashtag this could be us if you answered my calls and unblocked me on social media.
652
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,200
It is such a weird...
653
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,000
Someone pointed out and it feels like it might have been a cracked video.
654
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,760
It feels like I'm stealing it from a cracked video but being that they got sold and that
655
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,760
turned to garbage.
656
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,240
I feel I can steal it now.
657
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:15,020
But yeah it is such a weird premise of Ben Affleck, Liv Tyler drive off into the countryside
658
00:44:15,020 --> 00:44:24,760
to obviously like fear bang and you have Aerosmith playing and he's literally shoving animal
659
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,880
crackers down her underpants and you're like...
660
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,520
You know that was all added later right?
661
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,520
It's still in the movie.
662
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Yeah yeah yeah but they didn't...
663
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,520
It wasn't part of the original movie.
664
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,920
Do you know why that was added?
665
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,120
Because Ben Affleck had animal crackers on him?
666
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:47,280
No because Titanic was so successful that they thought oh maybe we should have like
667
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,280
a love story in this movie and it'll also be successful.
668
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,280
But it was.
669
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,280
Yeah.
670
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,280
So it's accurate.
671
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,280
But there was no love story.
672
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,480
Okay so they...
673
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,920
Even when they were filming they had to like...
674
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,080
Wait so the whole...
675
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,800
You're telling me the whole relationship between Liv Tyler and AJ was added after they were
676
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,800
finished with the movie?
677
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,800
No I don't think they'd finished filming but they had certainly started filming before
678
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:25,600
they started before they decided to do that and it was literally because yeah there was...
679
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,840
Titanic was so successful and specifically successful with teenage girls and they were
680
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,280
like shit we can get a whole new demographic to this movie if we put a love story in.
681
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:43,800
So the whole beginning of Bruce Willis trying to kill him, him being fired was unrelated?
682
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,800
But then the...
683
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,960
No no no it was all I assume rewritten so they could add this love story in.
684
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,960
So I don't know what the hell...
685
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,960
That is a huge portion of the movie.
686
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,240
Yeah I don't know what the relationship was between them when they initially...
687
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:02,960
Yeah because like why the hell would Ben Affleck like who loses the drawing of the...
688
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,120
We don't know how far into the movie they were doing it.
689
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,280
Yeah yeah yeah so they literally rewrote the script because the script that they started
690
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,880
filming with did not have any romantic subplot in it.
691
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,640
There was no relationship.
692
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,640
It was literally after Titanic was successful with...
693
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,120
And specifically successful with teenage girls that they were like oh shit.
694
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,120
So they were all filmed...
695
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Yeah so it says they were all filmed late in production.
696
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,960
Late in production is what it says.
697
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,760
Which means they must have filmed most of the movie without Ben.
698
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,120
Which is crazy to me because it's like every scene that he's in almost is...
699
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,280
Yeah it's the core part of the movie for those three characters.
700
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,200
Maybe that's why the relationship between him and Harry is so weird.
701
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,000
That he goes from like hating him to like I can't trust him, of course I trust him,
702
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:57,080
I can't trust him, I love him like a son, you know it's like...
703
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,080
It's such a weird...
704
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,920
I mean it just keeps fluctuating or maybe that's why because it literally...
705
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,920
Maybe some of those scenes were already filmed before.
706
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:10,120
It's nuts to me because I can't...
707
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:17,760
I don't know how that relationship could have not been in it from the beginning.
708
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,560
I'm lost.
709
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:26,640
The relationships in Deep Impact are far more like grounded in reality.
710
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,120
You have...
711
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,600
I can't remember the characters name.
712
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,600
Which one?
713
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:33,600
The reporter.
714
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,600
Jenny.
715
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,400
Jenny reconnecting with her dad.
716
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,400
Yeah.
717
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:43,440
Obviously her mum committing suicide I feel like she did because she gets dressed up and
718
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,120
then she gets found dead before it happens.
719
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,120
Yeah it's very...
720
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,120
It's kind of left for interpretation I think.
721
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Because it's revealed that so they can put a million people in this bunker and...
722
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,520
Anybody over 50, yeah.
723
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:09,600
Yeah so 200,000 of them are pre-selected important people and scientists etc.
724
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,600
Nerds.
725
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,560
And the other 800,000 are selected randomly from a lottery but they announce...
726
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,760
And they make her announce on TV and she's doing this knowing that her parents are going
727
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,600
to be excluded from it.
728
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:28,320
They announce that no one over the age of 50 will be included in the lottery.
729
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,320
Which is horrible.
730
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,400
And her mother is like oh I feel free now actually knowing that.
731
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:41,360
Which is actually I mean that is textbook warning signs for suicide.
732
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,360
Yeah.
733
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,760
It's like suddenly feeling...
734
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,440
Like a weight's lifted off you and you're like cool I can do whatever I want now.
735
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,440
Yeah yeah.
736
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,560
So if you have friends who are like very very depressed and still just all of a sudden out
737
00:48:54,560 --> 00:49:00,640
of nowhere they're like really happy and seem really free and relaxed and they're like acting
738
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,640
almost euphoric.
739
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:08,600
It can be a sign that they have made a decision to end their life.
740
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640
And I think that's what's implied in this.
741
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,640
It's never...
742
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,960
I don't think it's not really outright said.
743
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,960
Yeah.
744
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,600
Baby Elijah, the girl next door, they get married.
745
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,600
Yeah they're teenagers.
746
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,520
They're like 16 or 17.
747
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,480
It's a very cute, innocent...
748
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:32,360
Because the impromptu line that cracked me up of the like bro don't you know famous people
749
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,360
get laid?
750
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,040
You're going to have way more sex than everybody else.
751
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,040
And like baby Elijah's there like I will?
752
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,800
And then all the girls are like ha they're talking about you.
753
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,080
To the girl next door.
754
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:51,320
Yeah so it's the guy, the actor's name is Jason Doring.
755
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,960
So they do like a press conference almost but it's a school assembly and it's Leo Biederman
756
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,600
and Elijah Wood's character talking to everyone about how he helped discover the asteroid.
757
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,840
And literally one of the kids stands up and just says you're going to have more sex than
758
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,680
anyone else in our class.
759
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,080
And that was improvised so all of the reactions to that are genuine.
760
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,760
It was like the little sister being like scandalized.
761
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,880
It's very funny.
762
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,800
I like it.
763
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,320
My boy was an Armageddon.
764
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,320
What boy?
765
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,320
Keith David.
766
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,320
Oh yeah your boy.
767
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,320
Yeah well I said that my boy was...
768
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,320
My boy Elijah Wood was a deep impact.
769
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:45,520
You know there's just far more human stories and deep impacts than the beer guzzling American
770
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,520
flag totem.
771
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,560
And a lot more very emotional moments.
772
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:54,000
Yeah like the reporter, what was her name?
773
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:01,320
Jenny gives up the seat to her boss slash co-worker who was the doctor in ER.
774
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,320
The one that ended up, I can't remember the actress's name, actor's name sorry.
775
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,000
I can't find the name very quickly.
776
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,000
She developed a curve in her spine.
777
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,000
Neuro-Inners.
778
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:23,320
Yeah because she played a doctor in ER for years who had a house-esque leg injury.
779
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,320
Oh okay.
780
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:29,800
And because she constantly used a crutch constantly on screen for how long of a TV show, seasons
781
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,200
of TV shows back in the day ran for I think there were like 22 episodes.
782
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,080
So you can imagine how much time she spent pretending to have like a crippled leg which
783
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,240
is she calls her to have a spine injury.
784
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:51,920
But anyway yeah her selfishness, selflessness of giving up her seat to this woman who's
785
00:51:51,920 --> 00:52:00,880
not exactly nice to her but it's a very like I'm the biggest fish in this pond so until
786
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,080
I move on to bigger and better things you just stay out of my way.
787
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,320
I think it's I don't think I think it's a more complicated relationship than that because
788
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,000
I think they get on very well at the beginning of the movie and I think the tension arises
789
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:19,400
between them when she realizes that Jenny knew about the story which is like it's about
790
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,400
the apocalypse.
791
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,720
The biggest story they could possibly have that she knew about it and didn't tell the
792
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:26,840
rest of the studio.
793
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,200
So she starts to feel betrayed like oh Jenny has done this to undermine me which is not
794
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,200
really what's happened.
795
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,200
I just realized what the other movie we should have watched what this is.
796
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,200
This is the end.
797
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,200
No.
798
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,200
I was joking.
799
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,200
It's not the same.
800
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,200
Yeah.
801
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,200
I think.
802
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,200
Because that's literally a biblical apocalypse with demons.
803
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:52,560
Yeah that more recent movie that I haven't watched and don't really have any interest
804
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,560
in watching, Don't Look Up.
805
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,560
Oh yeah.
806
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,560
I think that's similar to these.
807
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,880
Very similar.
808
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,680
It's more of a dig.
809
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,840
Like Armageddon is very patriotic.
810
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:11,300
Deep Impact for me feels like the all American like family adventure movie.
811
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:12,760
Like it's supposed to feel wholesome.
812
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:19,040
Like Armageddon literally has like American flags billowing constantly.
813
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,920
There is a moment where he's like let me show you how it's done in my country and starts
814
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,840
firing gun but he fires it through the American flag logo.
815
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,840
Yeah.
816
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,840
That's always funny.
817
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,840
The.
818
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:30,840
Yeah.
819
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:38,000
Don't Look Up is interesting because it is a satire but it is way more close to reality
820
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:43,320
of people looting and going absolutely crazy because even if it was just like martial law
821
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,560
and there's a thing it's like we're all gonna die.
822
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,340
Like it should be a giant party.
823
00:53:48,340 --> 00:53:52,480
Like are the police gonna stop me from doing fentanyl in the street?
824
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,640
No they're worried about like the fact that their family don't have any water because
825
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,400
why would the water maintenance dude turn up to work?
826
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,840
Even the president was like you're gonna do your job and you're gonna pay taxes.
827
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,640
Yeah I do like that.
828
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,640
It's like I resign.
829
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,640
Like I'm gonna take my holiday.
830
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,120
Like fuck you what are you gonna do about it?
831
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,320
What is the president gonna come down here and kick my ass?
832
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:17,120
But I like that in Deep Impact the president says like I don't want people taking advantage
833
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:24,760
of this to raise prices so I'm freezing all wages and I'm freezing all prices of everything
834
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,600
because I think that was very realistic to be like okay because there will be people
835
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,280
I don't know if you've seen it there are people who will try to you know take advantage of
836
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,280
this.
837
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,960
You know the stuff that I know about in New Zealand what happened during lockdown where
838
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:43,280
the government handed out money to big businesses and were like you're not gonna do anything
839
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,880
and then when those big businesses closed stores fired staff combined like locations
840
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,320
and the government was like where was that like 60 something million dollars they gave
841
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,720
to this business in particular.
842
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:56,720
Should I name names?
843
00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:00,840
It doesn't really matter no international listeners don't care but the warehouse did
844
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,840
it.
845
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,360
They closed down their stores they fired well they made their staff redundant and they combined
846
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,520
certain locations from both warehouse stationary into just the warehouse and now you go into
847
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,000
certain warehouses and it also has a section warehouse stationary very much like farmers
848
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:21,840
did with Stevens even though they were owned by the same people originally anyway but yeah
849
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,680
and then when the government was like hey you promised us not to do that also you've
850
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:32,280
had a hundred and thirty million dollars profit more than last year give us back the sixty
851
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,160
million dollars we get sixty plus million dollars when they gave you and they were like
852
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,600
oh we don't have it right now we'll give it to you later and the government was like well
853
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:46,760
we will be coming for it but like yeah okay later's fine but that was ridiculous and the
854
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:54,880
exact same thing would happen during any anything greed wins out because human beings when it
855
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,080
comes to money and fucking over your fellow man wear scumbags.
856
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,680
If I have a service and you need it and there's no way you can go to somebody else and there's
857
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:12,960
no market for people to worry about shopping around because you need it tomorrow or now
858
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,320
people will price gauge.
859
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,320
Yep.
860
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:25,480
It's a simple fact like shipping in New Zealand shipping internationally has changed so much
861
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:31,760
since COVID ended it used to be so much better and it's terrible now I'm just salty because
862
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,840
I've been waiting seven days for a package that came from like only a couple of hundred
863
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:44,280
kilometers away and it's bullshit anyway seven hours I had it just driving around just driving
864
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:49,080
around with my package seven hours wasn't delivered still salty.
865
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,200
Hopefully by the time this episode comes out you will have your package.
866
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:58,800
If not I will be renting a car and going to the warehouse and kicking the door in.
867
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Yeah because you'll have had time to get a license.
868
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,440
Yeah because that's how long it takes them to friggin deliver anything.
869
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,280
That's ridiculous no I'll steal your phone and use your account.
870
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,880
I can drive just not legally well by myself anyway.
871
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:26,440
The yeah the the human story is just so glazed over like the relationship yeah the relationships
872
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:36,000
they have like you've got Harry his daughter AJ Steve Buscemi and a illegal maybe illegal
873
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,920
immigrant but like an immigrant prostitute slash tripper.
874
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,840
He also owns lots of money to the mob loan sharks because he thought he was going to
875
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,840
die.
876
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:54,440
I think all the people with like wholesome family backgrounds the ones that all die.
877
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:59,000
Yeah the guy who owns a ranch the guy who's like loves his mum.
878
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:07,120
Liv Tyler in Armageddon has to pull the weight of being the sole representative of all the
879
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,600
humans on earth who were going to lose loved ones except it doesn't it falls flat because
880
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,520
she doesn't actually care about the earth surviving she cares about people who are on
881
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,520
the asteroid surviving.
882
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,600
Yeah she's got an itching and the only thing that could survive that it's a soul that itch
883
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,600
is animal cricket.
884
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:34,360
But yeah so it just falls short whereas you get so many varied human stories in in Deep
885
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,160
Impact even from the beginning when we don't know what's happening yet and and Jenny goes
886
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:45,440
to James Cromwell's character and he's like I you know I want to spend time with my family
887
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,440
wouldn't you?
888
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,440
Yeah.
889
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:55,520
You know the president is very human the you get like the stories with the reporter the
890
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:02,040
other reporters and then Jenny her relationship with her dad and her stepmom and her mom and
891
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:07,440
you get Leo Biederman Elijah Woods character where he's you know him and his family get
892
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:13,400
selected and he like that in a desperate attempt to save his girlfriend and her family he marries
893
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:19,200
her and then they won't take her family so she stays and then he gives up his place in
894
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:26,800
the the bunker to go back for her and that moment that I find emotional I found it emotional
895
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:33,560
this time too even knowing it was coming when he catches up to them in the in the on the
896
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:38,760
road yeah in the traffic jam and they know they're not going to get away from what's
897
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:45,400
coming yeah and they send they not only send their daughter with him but they also just
898
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,120
like immediately like this like they because they don't say anything to them but they share
899
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,800
this idea and the father puts the baby carrier on her and the mother's like I want you to
900
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:59,200
take yeah the baby take the baby and the daughter is like saying like you know no I can't go
901
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,600
and she's like you need to go and they send her off with with Leo so they can get to high
902
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:09,920
ground on the motorbike and that's like is very emotional yeah and then you have like
903
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:16,920
the the other one that gets me is the so the astronauts who are up there one of them accidentally
904
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,360
look you know he didn't get his visor down in time and looked into the sun and blinded
905
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:27,640
himself yeah and when they decide that they're going to go back and try one last time to
906
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,240
stop it and they know it's a suicide mission they're all going to die they've decided together
907
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,920
they're all going to go they're going to do this because it's them or the whole of the
908
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:42,400
earth yeah and they get like they each get one last call with their families and this
909
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:48,120
guy doesn't want to admit to his his wife and their baby their baby who has been born
910
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:54,720
after he left earth yeah that he can't see them so you have the guy next to him describing
911
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,560
what's happening so that he can pretend he can see them like that's heartbreaking to
912
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,880
me yeah that he's about to he's about to go die he's moments before he knows he's going
913
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:13,160
to go sacrifice himself and he doesn't even get to see the baby yeah but he doesn't want
914
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:19,160
them to lose spirit so he's pretending it's very so there's a there's a lot of very emotional
915
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,720
moments in deep invite yeah it is a better movie of the two even though it's lower rated
916
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,760
I do understand why it's lower rated it also didn't do as well in box office I mean it
917
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:36,120
did really well in box office then but Armageddon did better yeah um which sucks maybe just
918
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:41,440
bigger named stars yeah um I mean there's big names in deep impact a couple of them
919
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,080
though are you know at the beginnings of their careers but you can say the same about Armageddon
920
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,680
like Owen Wilson was right at the beginning of his career Ben Apstok was was pretty early
921
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:58,360
on in his career if Tyler is only she the movie came out on her 21st birthday yeah um
922
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:05,280
so they're yeah but I don't know maybe it's just the the pull of being a a Disney produced
923
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:10,960
movie and B starring Bruce Willis and C an action movie I think Michael Bay had a career
924
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:20,880
at that point I think he was there's a lot of um there's a lot of so there's he's I don't
925
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:27,840
know if it'd be controversial he's been using a lot of his old footage and trends like there's
926
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:33,840
scenes in Armageddon that literally just had CGI Transformers thrown over the top of it
927
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:47,480
and the same with I think he uh I think it's I know the island is used but I think the
928
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:52,880
other one yeah it was bad boys there's scenes from bad boys that are also used and Transformers
929
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:58,520
to save on their budget because they're just over the top giant stunts so when one of the
930
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:04,040
sequences in the beginning with New York and there's like a line of buses and then like missiles
931
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:09,960
hit them and they explode in a line and they literally just CGI'd in like robot blazers and
932
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:17,480
Autobots yeah and they rolled out and the explosions happened um all right uh I mean
933
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:23,720
Disney have been doing that for decades though yeah because this is his third his third big movie
934
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:32,360
because he did bad boys which is really good yeah um the rock which you love you love the rock
935
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:39,720
why do I love the rock? because it's Nicolas Cage and you're shooting people after asking them if they liked the song
936
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:47,000
rocket man by El Jon okay we've literally never discussed the rock ever so I don't know why you're
937
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:52,040
suddenly like the rock that you love you love Nicolas Cage in movies I don't think I've ever
938
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:58,760
even seen the rock and fall I think I've seen like 20 minutes of it on tv once okay explain the premise
939
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:07,880
yeah so those and then he did Pearl Harbor which obviously was terrible um bad boys 2
940
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the island which is my favorite out of all the my only favorite Michael Bay movies why are we
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just listing Michael Bay movies because we were talking about Korea trajectory wait was the island
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before Armageddon no no the island came out in 05 that's what I thought so what no you're talking
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about like wasn't a bigger draw and I was just saying that Michael Bay was on like he was on the
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trajectory of going up or he could have done an M-Night Shambalan and gone down the toilet if it
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hadn't been for explosions and CGI all right if you make everything a plot twist and my channel
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was still on the way up at this point yeah yeah that's what I'm saying like this is pre Sixth Sense
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yeah which I only know off the top my head because Sixth Sense was the next movie we were listed
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oh wait you watched you watched a Michael Bay movie I watched a Michael Bay movie recently
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was it Armageddon? No it was it was Ambulance oh no it's a terrible movie yeah it's so bad
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why did you have to remind me that existed I had erased it from my memory well maybe you should
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have watched the same thing I watched on the plane no for reference when me and Lisa went and visited
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01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:35,640
her family back in Ireland um she watched Ambulance on the plane while I watched uh Race by Wolves
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01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:41,000
Jake Gyllenhaal I like Jake Gyllenhaal yeah and he had to shoot helicopters and an ambulance
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01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:47,960
wait it's so stupid it's just a bad movie now I'm sad because I can remember that I wasted some
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my time on this earth watching Ambulance awful you want to do some um other trivia yeah more
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trivia just get some trivia um a whole lot of trivia I've tried to narrow it down for Armageddon
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there's so much trivia um I've talked about some of it already Steve Buscemi when he was asked why
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he did the film said he wanted a bigger house it makes sense um Bruce Willis just hated Michael
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Bay hated his director so he said I think I haven't taken down the quote but I think the quote was
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01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:27,160
along the lines of when a director is screaming at you on set it doesn't make for a good day at
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work yeah um he was also he or Bruce Willis ended up on the film because he was filming
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a comedy called Broadway Brawler and he thought it was absolutely catastrophic and couldn't be
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salvaged so he tried to find any way to exit the project so the head of Disney at the time worked
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out a deal with him where he would star in three films and they would absorb the cost of the
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failed project right um and then you know he'd get a lower salary so the three films he filmed
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were Armageddon the sixth sense and unbreakable right um there is in the IMDB trivia for Armageddon
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it says that NASA shows this films during their management training program and new managers are
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given the task of trying to find as many errors as possible because there are at least 170 errors
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01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:31,720
yeah I was gonna say I think the number's 168 yeah yeah it's a top record for someone finding
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them at one first go but it's a lie um someone at NASA has confirmed that that's just a internet
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myth oh that sucks it's not true um Ben Affleck's teeth were replaced of course um
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they also said so apparently Ben I don't know it says he I don't know if Michael Bayer Ben Affleck
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stated this but Jerry Bruckheimer who produced this movie had previously replaced the teeth of
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another actor but they haven't said who they said a very famous star in a plane movie my guess would
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be Harrison Ford Air Force One was that a Jerry Bruckheimer film I will look it up now while you
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continue okay um Top Gun Top Gun oh that is a plane movie because pre Tom Cruise getting super famous
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he had teeth like mine right so that that would make sense it'd be Top Gun yeah so Jerry Bruckheimer
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paid to have Tom Cruise's teeth replaced hypothetically yeah and then looking into it now Michael Bayer was
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like oh I can do that with Ben Affleck's baby teeth um the guns the Gatling guns that are on the
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01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:58,760
armadillos the reason that they are on there is because Mattel had a toy line attached to Armageddon
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and they told Michael Bay that toy trucks with guns attached to them sell more yeah he literally
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01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:13,800
why do you think he made Transformers movies to sell toys it's literally like funded by Hasbro
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literally they were like well if you put guns on them they'll sell more toys he's like all right
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I can put guns on them that's so stupid um yeah I think I've said most of the rest of it the other
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thing is that um when Steve Buscemi's character gets space dementia they wrap him in duct tape
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which is the actual NASA protocol for both mobilizing crew members who have lost their
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01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:50,520
mind that's literally protocol right uh deep impact um so the so it was inspired by or it was
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or part of it was inspired by a real life astronomer uh named Eugene Shoemaker um who discovered or
989
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:11,160
helped discover the Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet um which collided with Jupiter in 1994 the um after he
990
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:20,680
discovered the comet um he was in a car crash and died right in the Australian Outback which is why
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they have Wolf um you know on his way after figuring out the comet on his way to descend
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this stuff off uh dies in a car accident so that was kind of an homage to him they also I think
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the package in his car is addressed to Shoemaker right um which is again an homage to that that
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um that astronaut or no astronaut astronomer um you mentioned previously that
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that Morgan Freeman was the president in this movie yeah which is correct yeah I know that I saw it
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01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:13,560
with netlinks but um the director Mimi Leder uh female director for Deep in Bight is great um
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she want when she wanted to cast Morgan Freeman as the president the studio objected because they
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said it isn't realistic to have a black president um and apparently one of the direct quotes that
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she remembers him saying is we're not making a science fiction movie you can't have Morgan
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Freeman play the president that's so dumb um which is stupid for multiple reasons first of all
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because yes you can have a black president and second of all because it clearly is a science
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fiction movie wrong on all accounts uh but obviously she won that argument because he's
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because he is it because he's played the president a general an ex-ca agent isn't he the president
1004
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:14,840
in other films about the white house dam no uh no um it's uh the in the good one the not Gerald
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01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:19,000
Butler one I don't know which one's the good one but I'll find out when we watch the not Gerald
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01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:27,080
Butler one um uh it's uh uh Jamie Foxx I think is the president oh I thought what's more I feel like
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he's the president in something else though it might be Olympus's like there were sequels to it
1008
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:37,880
he might be like the secretary of state oh maybe but yeah he's also played god so yeah yeah true
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I don't think there's one higher than that yeah fair enough um one of the NASA officials in the
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01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:51,640
movie is played by Jerry Griffin who is a former NASA flight director one of the background
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01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,680
characters is played by Michael Bay in the other one and Armageddon it would be really weird if
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01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:01,160
Michael Bay played a background character in deep in but yeah that would be weird um why don't people
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01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:05,560
that would be great but if I was making a twin a film that I knew that there was another film
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going on I would absolutely ask the the crew of that film to to cameo they probably wouldn't be
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01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:18,520
able to them you're pretty busy you know it's not you can't take a day off yeah you gotta be an
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extra and the other person's production um the ship in this one so yeah the ships in Armageddon
1017
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are called the independence and the freedom which is bullshit yeah the ship in a deep impact that
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goes with true the comic is called the messiah um but it's also not only is it an appropriate
1019
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,640
name because it's you know it's going to save humanity but it's also an inside joke because
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when the first space shuttle was being conceived um NASA constructed a full-scale wooden mock-up
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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:55,080
of the STS orbiter and they nicknamed it the messiah because everyone who walked into it said
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Jesus Christ when they saw the size of it so I love that I think that's funny um the waves that
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goes over New York City and around the the World Trade Center um which are the only buildings
1024
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:18,600
that stick out over the water at the end of it um the first of all the wave comes in from the wrong
1025
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direction it comes up it comes like from the direction of New Jersey apparently instead of
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across the Atlantic which doesn't make any sense but also yeah it does because the Statue of
1027
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:38,920
Liberty is inside the bay yeah it doesn't make any sense why would they do that I guess it looked
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01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:47,560
good but then people were like wait a second yeah um but also after the uh 9-11 attacks yeah because
1029
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:52,280
of course you talk about this again um television broadcasts of the film were edited to remove
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the the World Trade Center or the Twin Towers from the film so they don't appear in it in some in
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01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:06,360
some edits which is interesting um what you look like you just realized something important
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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:15,640
no because we watched it um they were in the version we watched it because we we took note
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of them because literally I wrote down the quote you said not the Twin Towers not again
1034
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um what else do I have on here oh no I think I've mentioned all those things
1035
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yes I think that's all the stuff I had uh budget and box office so the budget of um
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Deep Impact was 75 million dollars yeah and the budget of Armageddon was 140 million dollars so
1037
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:55,080
almost twice the amount yep um box office wise Deep Impact made 349.5 million dollars so that's
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01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:03,560
some decent cheddar way over breaking even and Armageddon made 553.7 million so definitely
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a bigger box office success but also it was a much bigger budget film and had more actors
1040
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and could afford to replace all their teeth yeah so not not too much of a shock um but I literally
1041
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:26,120
I don't understand why it's higher rated because it's a worse film on all fronts it's worse writing
1042
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:33,400
it's less scientifically accurate it's worse acting worse storytelling none of it makes sense
1043
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:42,680
it's a bad film it's terrible I don't like it and I don't know why people do the end your thoughts
1044
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:50,680
sir um get on just sign up uh use the throwaway email address uh get on imdb and let's fix let's
1045
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:56,520
vote rig this uh we want to see this our super fans out there I mean you don't even have to
1046
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:03,000
give them like super high you know just like rate rate deep impact is seven yeah and rain are we
1047
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:12,680
getting anything lower than six five four three two um no yeah I don't know it's I just don't get it
1048
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:21,720
I don't understand maybe the lens has changed maybe we've changed over time I don't know
1049
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:29,080
I just it's a very strange I just don't understand I mean they're in fairness they're pretty close
1050
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:36,440
in ratings yeah um because they're both six point something but like I don't get it the critics um
1051
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:43,480
I don't understand so yeah so on rotten tomatoes the critics do prefer deep impact over
1052
01:17:43,480 --> 01:17:50,040
Armageddon but not by much Armageddon's got a 38 percent and deep impact's got 45 percent
1053
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:56,680
but the audience scores on rotten tomatoes as well deep impact's got 43 percent but Armageddon's got
1054
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:02,680
73 percent yeah why what are they like is this just like dude bros who just want to watch
1055
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:08,520
explosions yeah that's it that's the whole audience of this movie yes america and dude bros
1056
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:16,440
the american dude bros explosions is this just like it's just like a maga movie no it's just
1057
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:26,520
no it's just that was a very american standpoint until 2001 which which part was which was let's
1058
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:34,920
watch monuments get exploded and then we go blow up the bad guys with nukes because if I said that
1059
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:44,440
you don't know if I'm explaining deep impact Armageddon or independence day yeah yeah um
1060
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:50,280
um can I point out one thing that really bugged me and I'm kicking myself that I'm only remembering
1061
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:57,880
to mention it now in Armageddon the asteroid made roaring noises
1062
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:06,760
yes we did make any nothing about the asteroid made sense it made roaring noises every time it
1063
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,800
was shown on screen and when they were on it and made roaring they're in spacesuits unless they're
1064
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:17,800
touching something they can't hear shit yeah there is so much noise yeah that's a big that's a big
1065
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:22,280
problem with me and is that there's so much noise that they can hear yeah which they wouldn't be
1066
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:31,480
able to um the best character of the entire crew is not one of the oil dudes it's the boy I was
1067
01:19:32,440 --> 01:19:36,680
I don't know who my boy is I was gonna say and I feel like this might be who you're talking about
1068
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:42,840
but I was gonna say the one thing that really annoyed me about Armageddon if we're talking
1069
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:51,160
like little annoyances is Peter Stamari playing a Russian yeah because that to me feels the
1070
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:58,840
exact same as Jared Butler playing an Irish man it's like they were like Sweden is near Russia
1071
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:05,080
I'm sure this is what Russian accents sound like it's like Jared Butler in PS I Love You and they're
1072
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:12,120
like Scottish Irish is the same thing and it's like literally hands them the worst Irish accent
1073
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:23,800
recorded to film beating out Tom Cruise and his shitty what was it far away um yeah I every time
1074
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,800
you know I did like him as a character I thought he was funny he's the best character in the whole
1075
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:34,280
movie but he's a crazy Russian man who's been alone in space for 18 months and then people blow
1076
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:40,840
up his home but the accent is so bad it doesn't matter it also adds to the stupidity he's like
1077
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:47,640
super misogynistic at one point it adds to the stupidity when the the only woman who's allowed
1078
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:55,480
in space in this movie is like trying to fix the ship and he's like no I can I can I don't want to
1079
01:20:55,480 --> 01:20:59,400
fix it and she's like you don't know the spectrum ship I know the spectrum ship and he's like no I
1080
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:04,120
can do it I can do it and then he just literally shoves her out of the way and starts smashing it
1081
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:10,360
yeah and it fixes it yeah but it's misogynistic bullshit okay the whole movie is misogynistic
1082
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:17,240
bullshit because the whole relationship between Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck is that Bruce Willis
1083
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:23,560
thinks he fucking owns Liv Tyler because she's his daughter and therefore he can literally shoot a
1084
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:30,200
man for wanting to to marry her no it's sleeping with her yeah but he literally tries to shoot him
1085
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:35,160
because he says he loves her yeah but if it was the other way around it'd be like cool she's now
1086
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:41,480
your property and I'm holding a shotgun wedding no you want to get really like gritty it's it's
1087
01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:49,160
about a bunch of white men in a ship going to go plant a bomb inside a giant round thing
1088
01:21:49,160 --> 01:22:00,360
a giant round thing? there'd be like egg and spoon reference oh that's stupid and they're going to create an explosion no there's literally two women in that movie and
1089
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,600
well I'll tell you only one of these movies passes the bacterial test
1090
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:14,440
do two women even speak to each other in Armageddon there's only two two women oh no there's sorry
1091
01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:21,960
there are a whole lot of strippers there's a there's the mother of the other guy's child
1092
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:29,240
chick's kid yeah there's a whole lot of strippers yeah and then there's just like Liv Tyler and the
1093
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:34,360
one astronaut who's female who is relegated to being an idiot and doesn't can't do her job
1094
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:42,680
there's also the Cyclops lady looking at Steve Bishimi through the door and the chick that's
1095
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:50,200
really really all about giving people enemas that's reminded me just for some reason when he's talked
1096
01:22:50,200 --> 01:23:01,800
about cyclopses um why why do they have a character in this movie reference pulp fiction as a movie that
1097
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:07,800
exists in this universe without him like ever referencing the fact that two of his crewmates
1098
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:15,080
are identical to characters or like presumably in this universe fucking played the characters in
1099
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:19,960
pulp fiction he's like oh yeah this is my friend Harry the oil rigger who also played that guy in
1100
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,920
pulp fiction the movie that I like but he's not an actor he's just an oil rigger who happens to
1101
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:33,240
have a clone who's in pulp fiction look it must be like last action hero that means nothing to me
1102
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:40,440
well we're gonna have to watch that um I'll put it on we'll do it Thursday we'll watch last action hero
1103
01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:49,400
don't want to it's not optional um I will I'm stronger than you and I have duct tape
1104
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:56,440
no I don't have space to mention it yeah this is becoming by the way our this is gonna be our longest episode
1105
01:23:56,440 --> 01:24:02,760
it's our anniversary it's our anniversary yeah it is our anniversary episode um so
1106
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double double movie double the length yeah the my point I'm making is in last action hero where
1107
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,640
Arnie plays a character in a movie who gets brought into the real world
1108
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:24,280
when the kid goes into their world the movie world it's Stallone who plays all the characters
1109
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:31,880
Arnie played so it's like that episode of black mirror yeah so depending on which layer layer
1110
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:37,880
deep it is it's either Selma Hayek or cate blanchett Blanchett taking a dump or Annie Murphy
1111
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:43,560
yeah someone's taking a dump and it depends on which level it is I want to know though who did
1112
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:49,080
we ever find out who it is that plays the character in the universe where cate blanchett is the real
1113
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:58,200
person which layer was cate blanchett so there's a boilers for black mirror seasons five the whatever
1114
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:04,040
the latest season is the first episode is a is a whole thing is it what the episode is
1115
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:08,440
Joan is awful Joan is awful okay spoilers for that skip the next couple of minutes if you
1116
01:25:08,440 --> 01:25:13,160
don't want to hear about that so there's the base layer where there's which isn't the one that we
1117
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,080
see which is Joan who's the actual person yeah so there's the base there which is Joan and then
1118
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:22,840
there is Annie Murphy yeah and then there's Selma Hayek and then there's cate blanchett yeah but
1119
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:29,880
there's obviously like a whole lot other it just keeps going possibly yeah so who who plays her in
1120
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,160
the cate blanchett universe I can't remember if we find out or not because we see like a whole
1121
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:38,440
montage of them all I don't know we might have to just re-watch the episode oh god it's a good
1122
01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:44,440
episode though actually very pertinent to the current writer strike presuming that when this
1123
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episode comes out the writer strike is still going which it may or may not be yeah um because
1124
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:55,800
we've got the episode before this episode is coming out tomorrow when we're recording this so
1125
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it's two weeks till this episode comes out spoilers for real life um so I don't know yeah so currently
1126
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there is in the universe we're living in right now there is a sagatra and a writer's deal of
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america um strike ongoing and I don't think it's going to be resolved anytime soon um but that's
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fine because we've got lots of other media to consume and we don't read a book folks yeah but
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also like the infinite amount of movies and tv shows that already exist there's like a ridiculous
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amount of material like just movies in general there there's no way for you possibly to have seen
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them all yeah even if we sat there and watched one dvd out of every one of my dvd collection
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it would take us over a year yeah and that's basing it on like just ones that you already own
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and that's not including that's 700 and I think it's like 700 I've got on on dvd but that's not
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including like so if I could ever convince you to watch star trek there's four discs per
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season like yeah four discs per season so there's four episodes per disc and no it's way more than
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that but also the point being is like it's only counted individual titles yeah and there are
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62 discs for the portal collection of stargate yeah so there's 10 seasons and two movies plus
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the prequel movie so that's but even if you watched a disc per day it's like 60 days that's
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more than we'll say more than we'll say three months I don't want but also what I was going
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to say is there's been no boycott called for for watching streaming services at the moment
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so what they actually want right now currently I don't could have changed by two weeks time
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is for people to continue using streaming services to put the demand up yeah because if we stop
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using streaming services um the demand drops and then the you know the companies can be like oh
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well you know no one wants your talent anyway so and also they'd have they wouldn't have any
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residuals to pay even though the residuals are minuscule stupidly low amount at the moment um
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the best thing to do is to increase the demand so that they suddenly panic about not having new
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content to give you because everyone's on strike yeah um they messed up the witcher
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they messed up everything I don't understand oh the 1990s 1899 pissed me off yeah 1899 pissed me off
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those who don't know um the same creators who made dark which if you haven't seen
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finish this episode and then start watching that dark is amazing um it was written with three
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seasons in mind and they went to the studio which was the people who picked them up which was netflix
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and said this is what we're making and they're like cool contract signed done then they brought
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them back to make a new series which was 1899 which is again just as confusing and crazy as dark is
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and they're just like oh the reception wasn't that great so we're just going to cancel it
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um and it's like cool so all the people who actually liked it yeah we'll never find out what
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was supposed to happen yeah and it's so insane you can't guess it yeah it's not like who's the
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murderer yeah because I mean if you're watching the first season of dark you have no idea where
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it's going yeah um the one that annoys me on a different streaming services that's doing the
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same bullshit is edge of history on disney plus is that your national treasure show yeah it's
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the national treasure series which is actually a pretty decent series um and it's just going to
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go nowhere because they just decided oh I didn't get enough revenue or whatever so cancel it but
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disney plus have also been doing bullshit where they're literally canceling things and removing
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them from the platform like days after they're released and it's probably specifically so they
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don't have to pay any residuals rather than like actually caring about anything to do with the show
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I think the other big problem is is there's too many streaming services
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because there's now like what um apple tv paramount paramount plus yeah prime video
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prime video netflix disney plus peacock yeah hulu neon neon sky but that's only like new
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zealand but that the only reason they exist is to screw over older people there's sky there's paid
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sky services in ireland and the uk do they only survive on people that are past retired
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retirement age because how sky exists and it's like 200 a month for less stuff than you get from
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netflix sorry dad if you're listening no i think my parents have stopped i've stopped it's ridiculous
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there's sky subscriptions they used to have um yeah i don't know there's a lot there's a lot of
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uh is youtube still doing well youtube you have to buy them individually do you or do you get
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or do they also have a no one no one buys youtube premium no one has that no but they did they had
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no human but you don't know no listener right now knows anybody with youtube but they had um youtube
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red where they were producing films and yeah and they went down the toilet because no one wants
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to pay for free content but they do have movies and stuff that you can pay individually for
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you can do that to buy around movies on youtube or in google as well yeah i don't know there's
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so much this is why piracy is coming back folks we're back on the seven seas yeah and we're at we're
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back to a point where creatives actors and writers and crew members whatever are actively
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encouraging piracy because they're not making money off it either way yeah take that metallica
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why metallica you don't remember the whole thing with um uh uh napster and how they went on strike
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and they weren't touring and doing music until you you know what actually bugs me this this is
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hilarious because i'm a huge was a huge game of thrones fan why is jojo rr martin also joins the
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writers strike he's not writing anything i think he's writing things that aren't he needs to be
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writing ice fire i from what i've heard i think he's like totally lost interest in that after
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it doesn't matter they messed it up but i think most people go to work and don't enjoy their jobs
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every day but people rely on them do you think a nurse turns up to work here's the thing no one is
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relying on george rr martin writing more books i am you're not you will survive you will live
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i am dying i am dying a little bit every day that i don't have the winds of winter at this point
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no one gives a shit i do there are lots of people who do thank you very much
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no no that's your opinion and you're entitled to it even though it's wrong that's just like
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your opinion man yeah it isn't just like your opinion man um you can find us located in places
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uh we're trying to find a new source of social media um because a lot of them are very right
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wing or very limiting um threads is apparently uh doxing people so unfortunately we're still on
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twitter um you can also find us on facebook and uh join our discord and i would encourage you to
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join i will talk to you personally if you join our discord i will say hello to you you could just like
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literally tag me and i will have a conversation with you and you can tell me i'm wrong about
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things go into our memes channel and like the meme that i will have inevitably posted after this
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episode where it's the zero days since we talked about 9 11 yeah yeah um zero episodes zero episodes
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yeah sorry uh tumblr is somewhere that we are where i never use the platform that i well i'm
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a tumblr veteran i have been using tumblr for over a decade i think at this point um on and off
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though i stopped for a while uh but we do have an intake to tumblr um and i would say it's more
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active than a lot of our other social media but mainly because our other social media or as you
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know like twitter i've kind of lost interest in facebook knowing cares about it instagram it's
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just very professional whereas tumblr um is designed for reblogging stuff and um i reblog
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a lot of film related content onto where it takes to um tumblr we had a thing going with youtube
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shorts that we should probably do some more of at some point but they're very frustrating to
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organize because we're with very busy people um we do have our we do upload our episodes on youtube
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also you might be listening to this on youtube in which case thank you for listening to us on youtube
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um yeah i don't know you'll find us there's details in the these places we are our website
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it takes to dot co dot nz so if you go there there's links to all the other places it's also
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in the show notes of this episode yeah regardless of whether you're listening on youtube or on a
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podcatcher somewhere it'll it'll have the show notes with with um links and handles and what
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have you arms and legs yeah usually it's it takes to pod or it takes to underscore pod or just
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it i think each our youtube is it takes to nz um but yeah you'll find us we're we're around
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i do by the way our tumblr is like way more active than any of our other social media i
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think we literally have two followers other than me so it please write and follow and we blog some
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stuff let's not say does anybody actually use tumblr anymore tumblr has become increasingly
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more popular especially after all the shit went down on reddit uh there's a lot of people who
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were on twitter have migrated to tumblr there's a lot of people who were on reddit and stopped
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caring about reddit when all the weird third party stuff happened it's just because people
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don't like ads um yeah no i don't know the third party apps on reddit were they're used for a lot
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more things i've known apparently the like blind community can no longer use reddit oh that sucks
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um because there's a whole lot of third party apps for reddit for like screen readers and things
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right that they've now blocked usage of um so they've lost like anyone who can you probably
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members of the dyslexic community as well you know um that they've totally alienated uh tumblr has
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third party plugins that are like bizarre i don't know when did you become a salesman
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i don't know no one's ever been a salesman for tumblr because tumblr is a hellhole anyway
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social medias follow us find us follow us you know do at me on discord yeah join our discord
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that's probably the easiest best place to follow us because we're literally there like i will
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respond to anything that you actually ask me for clarity the reason that nick is pushing your
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discord is because nick has no involvement on any of our other social media yeah i want yeah nick
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does not tweet from our account nick does not use our instagram nick does not even know tumblr exists
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i don't know allowed to know the passwords nick knows nick didn't even know we had a tumblr until
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this moment i think even though i've mentioned it in the past like dozen episodes um but but if
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you go on our discord nick will talk to you yeah even if you like it or not um and you can you can
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leave us a little message on there to tell us where you're listening from yeah and any suggestions
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for episodes you want us to do if you've got any family members who happen to be scientists in
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tātaka please send them link because it's the only content we still haven't been listened on
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yeah um and i want this podcast will not end until that happens that is one that and i get paid um
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so two things we've technically been paid once yeah it's very exciting i think we made like 40
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dollars the podcast in two years of podcasting it's still more money than well it didn't cost us
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anything other than time anyway we're ranting about stuff that's irrelevant to anything yeah so
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thank you for joining us and we'll catch you next time also just thank you for listening to us for
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the past two years or if not you've got like 52 episodes to catch up on yeah but thank you to
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those of you who have listened to us from the beginning and stick around and we hope you stick
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around for more years thanks thanks phil thanks floyd i don't know if anyone else has listened to
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every episode uh if you have let us know on social media or on discord um yeah yeah let's wrap up all
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right good bye good bye
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Hi everyone, I'm Lisa. And I'm Nick. And you're listening to It Takes Two, the podcast where
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two people take two movies with the same plot or premise and watch and discuss them.
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Welcome to our second year anniversary where we're covering possibly the most twinniest
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of twin films of all time. The first one we came up with when we initially
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came up with this premise. The first one anybody comes up with when they
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think about twin films, which was 1998's Deep Impact and also 1998's Armageddon.
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Yep. So I want to say that we, as our loyal listeners know, we standardly watch the lower
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rated movie first so that we have a better experience with the second movie.
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And I would like to say that in this instance, the ratings are categorically wrong.
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Armageddon is the worst movie I have ever had the displeasure of watching.
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What are you talking about? We watched The Meg the other day.
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The Meg was a better movie than Armageddon. Wow. So you're in the same boat as I am.
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Which is what? You hate Michael Bay movies.
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I mean, I think I knew that anyway, but considering even Michael Bay thinks this is his worst
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film, I don't understand why it's better rated than Deep Impact, which is actually a decent
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film and enjoyable film. I think there must be.
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And a more scientifically accurate film. I think there's more nostalgia.
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I remember seeing Armageddon in cinemas. I didn't.
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I saw it for the first time today and I regret watching it.
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Well, isn't it as bad as Mac and Me? Yeah, but there's like a level of enjoyment
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to watching a car crash like Mac and Me. Like I'm a person who routinely rewatches The Room,
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you know? I've seen Birdemic and enjoyed it.
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I did not enjoy Armageddon. Armageddon's in that weird dip. It's like a similar scale
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to The Uncanny Valley where like, you know, the worse a movie gets.
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The better it gets? Almost. And then there's like the dip where
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it's like, these are just awful. They're not enjoyable because there's no enjoyment.
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There's no enjoyment to be gained from it. And it's also not a good movie.
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Yeah, because I can understand where you're coming from.
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Like, if you're looking from an indie point of view, you would have not so great acting,
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maybe not so great directing, small budget, but like none of these boxes are ticked.
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Yeah. All of the actors are well-renowned actors
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in Armageddon. Like, I would rather rewatch Ghost Shark than
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ever have to look at Armageddon again. Fair enough.
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The best thing about it was the music because I am an Aerosmith fan and I enjoyed that.
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But I would have rather just sit and listen to an Aerosmith album than ever watch Armageddon
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again. All right.
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So anyway, back to how we normally do the podcast. These are both movies released in
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the same year about the US government discovering and keeping secret the fact that a lot of
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large asteroid slash comet is on its trajectory towards Earth and is going to create a extinction
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level event which will destroy all life on Earth, essentially.
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And in both instances, they send up a manned mission to drill a hole into the asteroid
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to set up bombs under the surface of it in the hopes of more realistically in deep impact.
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They want to actually push it in a different direction.
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In Armageddon, what they want to do is just explode the comet, which would not be possible.
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But in either way, what they're trying to do is create...
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I think you got that wrong. What do you mean you got that wrong?
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So the Armageddon, they try and cut it in half.
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Yeah, they're trying to break it up.
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No, literally the whole point is they're cutting it in half. So each half of it goes on the
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opposite sides of the Earth. That's exactly what they were there for.
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They literally... That was the original plan from the beginning.
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I thought they were trying to blow it up. No.
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The deep impact, the plan was to set it on a different course.
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Yeah, because that's the only... Because that is what you would have to do.
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Yeah, because physics. Yeah.
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But it's interesting because recently, I think it was a Japanese probe did it without having
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to put a nuke in a hole. I think they just rammed a satellite into a rock and it worked.
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So I'm not an astrophysicist. I don't even think I've got anything close to the understanding
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you'd need of basic maths to be an astrophysicist. But yeah, it's possible to redirect the trajectory
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of an object in space because basically other than gravity, there's no other forces.
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So it's... Yeah, but blowing them up seems like a really bad idea.
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Yeah, also it wouldn't work. Yeah.
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What they're trying to do in Armageddon wouldn't work. What they claim... What they're actually
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doing in Armageddon, the impact it would actually have on the asteroid is just changing direction.
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Yeah. Like putting a nuke 800... What was it? 800
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miles down? No, it was like feet.
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800 feet? Well, what were they even doing? Okay. Anyway, putting an asteroid however
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far down they were going... Oh, putting a nuke and then detonating it would not break
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it in half or explode it or whatever they think it's going to do.
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Yeah, we need Neil Tyson de Grasse. Hang on, we'll just give him a call and...
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I think he's got his name wrong. Neil de Grasse... Oh, Neil de Grasse Tyson.
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Yeah. Damn it, I'm not a real fan, guys. You said his name backwards.
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Did you like any part of Armageddon other than the soundtrack?
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And the fact that for some reason Michael Bay spent $20,000 out of the budget to replace
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Ben Affleck's teeth? Yeah, that's my favorite thing about the whole
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movie is that Ben Affleck got a whole new set of teeth. That's wild to me. That's insane.
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said, please don't, you've got a million dollar smile.
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teeth. They look like baby teeth on film. I'm going to pay $20,000 to replace all of
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his teeth. That's insane. Can you imagine going, like, get it, you interview for a job
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and you get the job and then like three days into the job, they're like, I'm going to replace
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every tooth in your mouth. Well, as someone who has in their own mind
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bad teeth, an employer said, I'm going to pay $20,000 to have your teeth replaced or
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like veneers or whatever. But I would not want someone to rip out all
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my teeth. Okay. But that's you.
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You would want someone to rip out all your teeth.
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If someone was paying $20,000 for dental. To rip out all of your teeth.
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Yeah. And put in fake teeth.
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That's fine. Okay, we're speaking about this, you as a
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person who does not have any fake teeth and me as a person who does, they're not good.
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looking at your smile. I hate my snaggle teeth.
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Yeah, but mine are, but like, first of all, when I first got teeth that were...
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When I first got teeth. No, okay. So context for our listeners who don't
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know the story. I was knocked down by a cyclist getting off
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a bus and I broke three of my front teeth and I got, initially they built up fake teeth
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with like the same stuff they'd make fillings with.
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five years because dental money. I literally could not bite anything with my
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front teeth. I don't bite anything with my front teeth
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as it is now. Okay. Well, I could not like have an apple.
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I could not eat corn on the cob. Like it was horrible.
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your gums to recede and they cause like a whole lot of problems that are going to be
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annoying for me for the rest of my life. And also they do not last.
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They're not going to be permanent. I am going to have to get implants at some
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point and then those cause a whole smil of other problems and I'm not looking forward
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to it. So I don't think it would be worth it to have someone replace all of my teeth
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with fake teeth when I have working teeth. So long as they still function, why would
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I let someone, like it's like, it's like if you was like, I'm going to rip out all
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the bones in your body and it's literally what they did to Wolverine.
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Yeah, that's what I want. I want metal teeth. No, it's not good. It's not good.
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Anyway, I would like to congratulate Lisa for going on a Nick based rant that was a
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completely unrelated subject to the movie. I can hear Floyd's keyboard as we speak.
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All, all I could think about. So I started reading some of the Iodb trivia before the
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movie and you were like, stop because you haven't seen this movie or wait till the end
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of the movie. Armageddon just for context.
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And literally, I'd only read like four pieces of trivia and one of them was the teeth thing.
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And so for the whole movie, every time Ben Aff opens his mouth, I was looking at his
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teeth and I was like, you know what, they do look really good. And then it was like every
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time anyone else opened their mouth, I was looking at their teeth. Bruce Willis has a
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chipped front tooth. I don't know if he permanently has that. He definitely had it in that film.
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And I was like, why didn't they like it was so, so cheap for them to just fix that chip.
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So what you're saying is, is that Hollywood should once this writers strike is over, once
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the acting strike is over, they should just have instead of doing what they did with Batwoman,
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which was right off a movie as a tax credit, they should just people should make indie
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movies where they just all the actors and the staff and crew just get all dental work
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done.
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And that's how they write it off. I'm saying, no, I like this idea. I'm going to start an
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indie movie. If you hate someone's teeth so much to the point that you pay $20,000 to
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replace all their teeth, why would you not also pay like $400 or whatever it costs to
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cap the one, your lead actors chip front tooth?
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Or maybe Bruce Willis being a rough neck oil driller.
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He's also a rough neck oil driller.
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Yeah, but he has to be the handsome one. The handsome one.
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Handsome people don't have small teeth.
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Yeah. Handsome man gets a girl and then their father in law gets blown up saving the planet
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giant asteroid.
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Here's my two cents. It's actually going to be like four to 20 cents.
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Here's my tooth.
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Yeah, here's my tooth.
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The Deep Impact is more of a family orientated adventure because it is more a human story
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that focuses on the people involved around the mission.
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Like the people trying to just live through this catastrophic Armageddon extinction level
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event where Armageddon is like a drinker terrible beer that your dad grew up drinking and you
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drink when you were 12 and you'll drink until you die of sclerosis of the liver.
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What does alcoholism cause?
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It is the most lifted truck oversized American flag, bear in hand, riding off into the sunset
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like with a lasso on the truck, horns like riding it like a horse rather than a vehicle.
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You know what else it is?
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Like a movie because like at least in Deep Impact, at least in Deep Impact, they're like
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the president who's played by Morgan Freeman rather than generic old white guy number seven
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is he's like, oh look, I've already told every ambassador for every other country. Now I'm
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going to tell you guys versus it's like the mission's already launched, they're there
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and then Shanghai gets hurt and they're like, oh it's become public now. It's like you will
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Canada you're hiding it from like it's literally going to destroy the Pacific. It's going to
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destroy the Atlantic like the entire Pacific coastline. I know Canada is not very populated
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there but still like give your allies, give NATO a heads up like anything but now they're
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just like no.
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It's also a movie about a major catastrophic like natural disaster where climate activists
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are painted as decades evil and the heroes of the movie are oil workers. I wonder where
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Michael Bay got his money from. How do you make a movie about a natural disaster where
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your heroes are oil companies?
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Lots of money.
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Ridiculous. Just utter ludicracy.
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So the yeah it is a very different story even though it is the same story.
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Even though it's a rip off of Deep Impact because the writer of Deep Impact pitched
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it to a Disney production president at a lunch and they declined it and then they started
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producing Armageddon.
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A rip off.
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No it's everything in Hollywood is exactly the same way.
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No but they literally ripped it off.
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They do that all the time. You're like surprised about it.
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No no I'm saying that like you know it's a rip off.
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You know about the Houdini thing right?
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Every single studio in Hollywood has a script ready to go for a Houdini movie and as soon
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as someone is in pre-production.
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It's like a Mexican stand up where one person pulls the trigger and they're all going to
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go.
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I know I get that but like this was a case of you know someone had this idea had written
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this movie and then pitched it to a studio that didn't want it and then that studio got
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someone to write the same movie.
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It was not that well debatable.
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Well there's also stuff that they cut from it that they changed it was supposed to start
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off.
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Do you want to know what the original script beginning of Armageddon was?
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It was a group of school children watching the stars and seeing the asteroid.
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Right instead of the old dude who has a terrible relationship with his wife screaming get the
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book get the book.
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Yeah yeah it was and also like it's just bizarre to me they had to cut a line out of Deep Impact
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because when the president was making his speech at the press conference where he was
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revealing the stuff.
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Morgan Freeman.
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Morgan Freeman yep.
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He says life will go on we will prevail and then after that in the script and they filmed
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it and then they had to cut it in post production he said this is not Armageddon.
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Why they had to cut it I would have left that in.
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They couldn't because suddenly Armageddon was in production.
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Well they were already you know they'd already done filming.
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They were like oh our movie is going to be a box office competition with Armageddon and
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we can't outright state this is not Armageddon in the middle of the movie.
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It would be very funny though I think.
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To square it up let's go over the characters.
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I'll start with Deep Impact because like I said it is a more human story it is the more
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like families trying to survive.
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It's funny because Armageddon is literally about a family but it's about one family.
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Whereas you see like nothing of other people on earth as opposed to Deep Impact where you're
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seeing almost exclusively the impact on earth and then the you know the people going up
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in the space is almost like a subplot.
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And then you follow three protagonists in Deep Impact and they're all very self-sacrificial
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as opposed to our Armageddon people who are a bunch of shitheads.
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So you have baby Elijah Wood who's the one who discovers the asteroid.
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And then you follow the reporter who's undercover, I think she's uncovering some sort of scandal
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possibly the President's mistress named Ellie.
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Google's Ellie on like the slowest.
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The thing that I found hilarious.
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This is pre-Google.
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Yeah but the thing that I found hilarious is when she's doing it she's like sighs and
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like wipes her brow like halfway through.
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She's wrote in four letters and typed enter and clicked on two links and she's like oh
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my god.
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This is the 90s okay there was a different time.
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Yeah but dial-up didn't physically drain your life force while using it.
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Okay the context for this though is that she thought she was following up on a story about
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a mistress and then she got like kidnapped by the FBI.
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Yes and brought in and met the President and then she suddenly realizes that like she's
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obviously stumbled onto the way deeper than what she thinks she has but she can't let
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them know that.
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I have a theory.
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This might track with you or you might have not noticed it.
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I only noticed it when I was watching it this time around because I've seen both these movies
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before.
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There's a lot of close-up shots of a brand of food.
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That all happens to be in the like survival like the areas where she meets the goes in
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the back offices and meets the President.
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Was he the Secretary of the Treasury?
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So the guy who's responsible for the like the budget he's the one played by your boy
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James Cromwell.
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Cromwell?
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Cromwell?
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Cromwell.
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Yeah he wasn't there though.
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He was she went to see him first.
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Yeah but I'm saying that he has he's got the same brand of food.
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And he's like I'm gonna spend the time with my family.
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And he's like loading his boat up like that's gonna do anything like where the hell is he
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gonna go in Mexico.
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I don't think no I think he's retired so that he can literally just relax with his family.
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He's not going anywhere.
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Then why were they apocalypse sheltering?
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Maybe they went to a cabin or something.
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So yeah my point being there is the same brand of food at the boat ramp and where she meets
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the President.
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room where she's presenting from for the news.
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I think it was the same brand.
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I don't know if there was like an abandoned plot line in the movie but it seems very odd
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like it almost seems that some multi-level marketing like background company within the
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movie is taking advantage of like the apocalypse because it seems very weird that the camera
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zooms up on the branding twice.
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I maybe just.
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She was just trying to piece together what the hell was going on.
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It's not like showing you like a case of cans with beans in it.
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It's literally like this brand of food.
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I don't know.
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That's just my two cents.
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I don't even know what to look up to figure that out.
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I'm just saying this is in my opinion something was weird about this this whole company thing
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and it just like fizzled out or they just abandoned this plot line.
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Anyway so yeah reporter Elijah Wood the crew of the space shuttle and who was the other
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character that I guess is the the girlfriend slash wife of Elijah Wood.
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Leely I think.
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Leely Zbyski.
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Did I say that right?
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I think so.
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I like her.
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I've seen her in a bunch of things.
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I haven't seen her in anything recently though.
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I don't know what she's up to.
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Yeah I went down the rabbit hole while watching it anyway.
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Ensure is the brand.
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It is a sweet canned drink that's used to help gain weight for people who have had severe
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weight loss.
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That is weird.
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It's like a corn syrup thing.
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And it was in both places.
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It's a high calorie.
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Like a survival food.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just weird to me.
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Anyway.
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Interesting.
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See I'm not crazy.
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It's a TV that's crazy.
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It didn't say you were crazy.
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I was just trying to figure out why or if there was anything to your theory there.
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Not that I found.
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It's like the you've seen.
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Someone's listed their entire the entire ingredients of it.
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That's weird.
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You mentioned Cloverfield multiple times well I think twice when we're watching.
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Did I mention twice?
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Pretty sure you brought it up twice.
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When we were watching Deep Impact because the Statue of Liberty's head is seen floating
321
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down the street which if you haven't seen Cloverfield is the Statue of Liberty's head
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is thrown into the street outside the apartment of the people you're following.
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Because that whole thing is about a Japanese company who the character is going to go work
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for who are doing a mining thing for like a superfood that's like a deep water kelp.
325
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And that's where Clover comes from.
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It's a big thing.
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But it's like in the weeds of like viral marketing and these fake websites that popped up for
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the company that the guy was going to go work for in Japan.
329
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It is so weird.
330
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And I just thought that there might have been some little sprinkling little garnish of that
331
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going on in Deep Impact.
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But clearly I'm the crazy one.
333
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I don't know.
334
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It'd be difficult if it's not been publicized it'd be difficult to find that out.
335
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20 years after the fact or 25 years after.
336
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Yeah a long time ago.
337
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:12,120
Armageddon on the other hand is take a bunch of really good actors and give them a one
338
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liner personality where Steve Masini is the horny guy.
339
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By the way he did not like that.
340
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Because that's not how the character is written and he specifically took the role because
341
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he wanted to get away from those stereotypes.
342
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,320
He was not happy.
343
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:38,320
So yeah so he was pitched to him as a heroic geologist and he wanted to change from acting
344
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as lowlifes and things.
345
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And then after he was cast they changed the script to give him sleazy characteristics.
346
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And you have Bear who's a giant.
347
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,560
Which Wilson brother is it?
348
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,560
Owen?
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Yeah it was Owen Wilson.
350
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Owen Wilson is a cowboy.
351
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:07,640
Owen Wilson might be the best actor in the movie.
352
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:14,040
Yeah you get Bruce Willis' discount best friend and Liv Tyler.
353
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,040
Bruce Willis?
354
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Discount best friend?
355
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,560
What the hell was the character's name?
356
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,520
Like I can't remember the guy's name.
357
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,760
Which guy's discount best friend?
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Chick.
359
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,760
Chick Chappell is the guy's name.
360
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Chick Chappell.
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Chappell.
362
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Paid by Will Patton.
363
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:31,760
Oh yeah.
364
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I feel like I didn't even.
365
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,760
Exactly.
366
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,480
He survives the end of the movie as well doesn't he?
367
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:45,000
Yeah and he's like he's the only decent character out of the whole lot because he's like.
368
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,000
Billy Bob Quartern's character.
369
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,320
Yeah yeah yeah but I'm saying out of the rough neck crow, out of the oil rigors he's the
370
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,480
only decent character because all of them like they get released a day before they have
371
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,920
to fly which is bullshit because of like quarantine regulations for being an astronaut because
372
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:09,760
you don't want a virus or bacterial infection to go up into space.
373
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:19,360
So they get released and he goes and visits an estranged ex with his kid and he's all
374
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:24,240
like hey I just want to like just give the kid this and he gives him like a space shuttle
375
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:30,120
model and the mum's all like he's a salesman the court said you can't come round here.
376
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,560
He's like the only, Chick is the only decent character.
377
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,160
But he can't be that decent because why?
378
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,840
Because he's a gambling addict.
379
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,400
He's got gambling addiction.
380
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,400
Yeah.
381
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Literally one of the things he wants if they survive for the government to give him is
382
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:52,560
like a crazy like all expenses paid trip gambling.
383
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:59,120
But that means he's not decent because he hasn't like you know he could say especially
384
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if he cares about his kid and getting to see his kid again and not being court ordered
385
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:10,360
not to see his child he could have asked for them to pay for him to go through like addiction
386
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:13,120
shit like go to like a gambling addict.
387
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:17,000
There is too much character development for a Michael Bay movie.
388
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,000
I'm sorry.
389
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,000
I'm sorry it is.
390
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,000
It is.
391
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,680
It's written by JJ Amrams.
392
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,680
What?
393
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,680
What is?
394
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,680
Are we good?
395
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:28,680
Is it written by JJ?
396
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:37,680
Well it's written by like a dozen writers but one of the main ones is JJ Amrams.
397
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,680
You didn't know that?
398
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:46,720
Well the screenplayers but the story's not.
399
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:56,800
Anyway we've glossed over Liv Tyler who's in love with AJ played by Baby Teeth.
400
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,800
Baby Teeth?
401
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,800
Do I love Baby Teeth?
402
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:08,400
Batfleck and she's the daughter of Harry who's played by Bruce Willis and Harry's pissed
403
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:15,360
because his daughter is dating AJ and they have a big father daughter moment of like
404
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:20,200
how dare you date someone you've been surrounded with your entire life and only know anything
405
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,080
about them.
406
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,080
It's so bizarre.
407
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,520
I don't understand his whole relationship with AJ because like the whole time he's like
408
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,040
I hate him I hate it because I never trust him I don't know and then he's like you're
409
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,280
always like a son to me and I want you to marry my daughter.
410
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,280
Yeah.
411
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,280
It's like that's every layer of that is bad.
412
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,280
Yeah.
413
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,840
Did we talk about Robert Duvall in Deep Infant?
414
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:43,840
No.
415
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,120
Because he's the equivalent of Bruce Willis' character in my opinion.
416
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:55,440
Yeah he's the long toothed like last man on the moon real astronaut like by the skin of
417
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:04,960
their teeth and the hair on their insert word like astronauts like old school astronauts.
418
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:11,760
Yeah because in Deep Impact the astronauts they set up are all young astronauts who have
419
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:12,760
been...
420
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,520
They've already done ever simulator stuff.
421
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,880
Yeah so they've been training for ages.
422
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,680
So that's this is the thing that pisses me off about Armageddon is like the time frame.
423
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,840
Oh the time frame doesn't make any sense.
424
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,320
Because in Deep Impact...
425
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,600
Ben Affleck balled it up with Michael Bay when they were filming it and he's like this
426
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,960
doesn't make sense why wouldn't it just be easier to teach astronauts how to drill and
427
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,520
his response to Ben Affleck was shut the fuck up.
428
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,640
Oh everyone hated it Bruce Willis refused to ever work with Michael Bay again to the
429
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:49,960
point that they wanted Michael Bay to direct one of the Die Hard movies and Bruce Willis
430
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,360
says I will not be in the movie if you get him directed.
431
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,720
Literally you will lose John McClane if you bring Michael Bay in he will ruin this movie
432
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,720
and I do not want to have anything to do with him.
433
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,720
Well yeah what was I just talking about?
434
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,720
I don't know.
435
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,560
I was talking about Liam and then you started talking about something else.
436
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,560
The old man astronaut.
437
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,560
Yeah.
438
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,560
The young crew.
439
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,560
Something to do with the time frame.
440
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Oh yeah it's absolutely terrible.
441
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Because they give like 17 days or 18 days.
442
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:34,320
18 days so in Deep Impact they first spot the asteroid two years before it's due to
443
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,320
hit Earth.
444
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:42,360
And then like when they send up the manned mission to try and deflect it it's still like
445
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,880
10 months or something until it's due to hit.
446
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,600
So they have all that time then to do their preparedness stuff and you know whatever.
447
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:58,440
And I mean yes it does in the end come down to like an 11th hour kind of thing but in
448
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:04,680
Armageddon it starts off 11th hour and they just keep getting another 11th hour and it's
449
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,480
like how many 11th hours can you have?
450
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:13,400
It's very confusing from a perspective of like how time because you get this weird montage
451
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:21,720
of them doing astronaut training and like psychological evaluations and ripping an engineered
452
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,160
piece of equipment to pieces and then putting it back together again and then practicing
453
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,520
with it and they've got 18 days.
454
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,720
17 days since Harry turned up.
455
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,760
You're saying this like they have 18 days to train.
456
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,160
That's not true.
457
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,320
They only discover the asteroid 18 days before it's due to hit.
458
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,280
So by the time they've figured out they need these oil rigors and they get the oil rigors
459
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,080
on board they have 10 days to train.
460
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,600
I thought Harry turned up only like what?
461
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,240
They're given 10 days to get out.
462
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:00,960
In fairness maybe it's still probably more than 10 days before it's due to hit because
463
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,160
they have to launch after 10 days.
464
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,280
No I'm pretty sure he said it's going to hit us in 18 days.
465
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Yeah they say that at the beginning of the movie when they first discover it.
466
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,360
It's so ridiculous.
467
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Because they took that down because I literally wrote like in capital letters how did they
468
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,240
not see it until 18 days before it hits.
469
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,360
It makes no sense.
470
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:29,400
I will go on for it because it feels like a meme and we're not doing it intentionally
471
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,480
but again in both these movies you have the twin towers getting destroyed.
472
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:41,120
Yeah it is a meme in that we have made a meme which is the like how many zero days since
473
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,640
zero episodes since we discussed 9-11 and we are absolutely discussing 9-11 again.
474
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,200
Why do they keep doing this to us?
475
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:56,840
Because in Armageddon it gets hit by so the asteroid goes through the belts that's between
476
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:02,960
Jupiter and Mars so it like shoots a bunch of shrapnel at Earth before the big giant
477
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:14,440
comet's coming and in that sequence like heaps of like famous New York landmarks get destroyed
478
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,840
including the twin towers, Empire State Building, Grand Central Station and I can't remember
479
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:19,840
the last one.
480
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,880
The twin towers don't get utterly destroyed.
481
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,680
No they're both, you see it in the background getting hit directly by a meteor.
482
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:32,360
Yeah and then it shows a shot of the south tower with the top missing burning which is
483
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,880
I think exactly how it happened when it happened.
484
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:43,000
Also that was their first indication so Armageddon opens with like a space station getting hit
485
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000
by these bits of debris.
486
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,560
It's a space shuttle.
487
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,040
And that it rains down on the Earth and that's when they suddenly notice that there's an
488
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,920
asteroid that has already passed Jupiter like surely they would have seen it.
489
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,600
No because that's the whole bit that Billy Bob Thornton makes is like our current budget
490
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,840
to watch the sky is one million dollars a year which gives us about three percent of
491
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,000
looking up.
492
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:14,760
Like I would love to see someone write like high level fan fiction about the universes
493
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:22,360
of both these movies after all of this happens because there'd be a lot of geopolitical change.
494
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,880
I mean so yeah so if we talk about the physical impacts on Earth in both of these movies.
495
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,640
France is destroyed, Shanghai is screwed up like millions are dead in Shanghai.
496
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,800
Paris is literally like nuked.
497
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Yeah Paris is off the map.
498
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,040
I don't know.
499
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,840
A huge chunk of France is gone.
500
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:47,640
Obviously the whole East Coast of the US had rained asteroids on it.
501
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:56,360
In deep impact a small section so they accidentally split the asteroid and the smaller part of
502
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,560
it does impact but it impacts in the middle of the Atlantic.
503
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,240
It completely wipes out the West Coast.
504
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,240
Yeah no East Coast.
505
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,120
East Coast of the US.
506
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,800
No because Washington DC is on the East Coast of the US.
507
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,800
No sorry I'm getting confused.
508
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,800
I have been there.
509
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,480
Sorry I was getting confused between movies.
510
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:24,680
So it impacts in the Atlantic, it wipes out the East Coast of the US, New York City etc.
511
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,720
It goes like I can't remember how far they said it went in.
512
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:29,720
Several miles inland.
513
00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:30,720
Several hundred miles inland.
514
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:31,720
Like 600 miles I think or something.
515
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:32,720
Is that right?
516
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:43,240
It's weird too because when baby Elijah finds his family after abandoning the fact that
517
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:52,920
he was in the lottery to get into the apocalypse shelters to save the human race if the mission
518
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,560
failed it says six miles to Virginia beaches.
519
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Yep.
520
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,680
That's on the East Coast.
521
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,600
Yeah but that means that they're not that far from the sea.
522
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,200
Yeah that's why they're trying to get to high ground.
523
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,200
I understand that.
524
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,840
He turns around the whole lower plain.
525
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:20,520
I understand that but like the wave doesn't make a lot of sense then because it was like
526
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:28,800
literally going in several dozens of miles inland and they're only six miles from the
527
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,400
sea and they escape by going up a very large hill.
528
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,040
The mountains in Virginia are yeah pretty significantly high mountains.
529
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,280
But it like literally just goes bloop at the bottom of the mountain they're on.
530
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:45,080
I assume it goes past the mountain range.
531
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:51,920
We're seeing it, we're seeing a mountain range where it's not going to sweep up over the
532
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,920
mountain range.
533
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:53,920
It'll go around.
534
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,920
That's not how tsunamis work but okay.
535
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,920
What do you mean?
536
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,840
It's not going to climb higher off the mountain.
537
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:08,360
Yes it would because that's what the whole point of surge waters are.
538
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,480
So when the wave, the wave isn't just like it crashes and then recedes like the regular
539
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,120
waves that the ocean does.
540
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,440
There's all that extra water behind it.
541
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,440
Yeah.
542
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,560
So it doesn't just like stop and then recede.
543
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,600
No I'm not saying it stops and recedes.
544
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:28,320
I'm saying it can't like suddenly increase in volume to go up a hill.
545
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,320
It's going around the mountain.
546
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,600
Where do you think the rest of the water goes?
547
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,760
Around the mountain and continue.
548
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,000
There's rivers through that.
549
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,000
It would follow the valleys.
550
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000
Okay.
551
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,000
How do you think geography works?
552
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,000
You're getting angry because you're off.
553
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:49,120
Anyway the other thing is they just do a throwaway line which is that oh you're also Europe and
554
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,120
Africa were affected.
555
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,520
Probably Ireland would be gone off the map if it was hit by a wave of that size.
556
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,520
Iceland possibly also.
557
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,880
Yeah but there's lots of countries you could say that about.
558
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,240
It would be very interesting to see.
559
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,640
Any islands in the Atlantic.
560
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:13,320
I don't know if New Zealand would be okay because we'd get protected by like South America.
561
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,320
And Africa.
562
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,320
Yeah.
563
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:21,560
We're in the middle so South America.
564
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,680
No it's hitting the Atlantic.
565
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,280
So you've got South America protecting you from one side and Africa protecting you from
566
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,280
the other.
567
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,640
Yeah and Australia on one side.
568
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,640
So New Zealand would probably be okay.
569
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:42,120
I think the water levels as a whole would rise which probably would impact New Zealand.
570
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,920
There would be some coastal areas that would not survive.
571
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:45,920
I don't think Patoni would be around.
572
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,920
It's not going to take a freaking tsunami to do that but anyway.
573
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Yeah I know but the tsunami is not going to hit New Zealand.
574
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,920
It's going to be just general water right.
575
00:39:48,920 --> 00:40:05,480
Anyway like I was saying it would be very interesting to see a story about a post post
576
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:15,560
like asteroid event because I'm pretty sure governments would be way more focused on never
577
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:22,800
letting it happen again and like focusing on because like the economies of certain areas
578
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,200
would be like screwed up.
579
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,080
International shipping would be screwed up for who knows how long.
580
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,560
Your port systems it'd be like COVID all over again except.
581
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,200
There'd be whole new bodies of water in places.
582
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,200
Yeah.
583
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:39,200
If the waters rise everywhere.
584
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,200
Yeah.
585
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:46,640
You know it would be interesting to see what the effect would be even on like the polar
586
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,600
ice caps and things like that.
587
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,160
Because it's sort of covered you've seen the second Independence Day movie right.
588
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,160
Yeah.
589
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,120
Yeah it would be similar to that in my opinion.
590
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Right.
591
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,880
Just less crap because that movie is terrible.
592
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,120
So which movie do you want to see a sequel to?
593
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Deep Impact or Armageddon?
594
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:12,160
Neither I want a generic one that could be either of them.
595
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:18,400
But they have very different impacts because one of them was massive tsunami and the other
596
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:25,720
one was like whole cities being wiped out by asteroids landing directly on them.
597
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:29,840
Yeah but you could make it vague enough where it was just like you know years ago heroes
598
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:35,440
sacrificed themselves to save the earth from the giant asteroid that was killing us all.
599
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:41,560
Here is the story of a rebuilt earth and our space station that shoots down asteroids that
600
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:47,520
have been shot from the other side of the galaxy by blood by plasma become a citizen
601
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,520
today.
602
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:58,040
It's a whole plot line of like Bruness Arias gets destroyed and they have to go to Klindathu.
603
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:03,080
They have to go to Klindathu Lisa to destroy the bug Menace.
604
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,480
It's all a prequel to Starship Troopers I'm telling you.
605
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,280
That doesn't make any sense.
606
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,360
It does make sense when you think about it.
607
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,080
So what you're saying is that we've already seen this evil.
608
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,080
Yeah.
609
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,080
And it's Starship Troopers.
610
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,080
I don't think that's accurate.
611
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,080
This is a prequel to Starship Troopers.
612
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,080
They're both prequels to Starship Troopers.
613
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,080
They're both separate prequels to Starship Troopers.
614
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Anything with a giant asteroid was fired by bug plasma from Klindathu.
615
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,880
Did they happen like in the same universe then?
616
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,880
Like which one happened first?
617
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:40,880
Armageddon or Deep Impact?
618
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,880
It was the dinosaurs first obviously.
619
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,880
No no Armageddon or Deep Impact?
620
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,880
Well Armageddon looks like way too futuristic.
621
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:44,880
Okay so Deep Impact happened.
622
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,880
Parallel universes.
623
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:46,880
And then there's another.
624
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,880
Where we're in.
625
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,880
Not parallel universes.
626
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Yes parallel universes.
627
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,880
Parallel universes.
628
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,880
Parallel universes.
629
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,880
Parallel universes.
630
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,880
Parallel universes.
631
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,880
Parallel universes.
632
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:02,520
Parallel universes where Deep Impact they're still using steampunk until later.
633
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,520
Until the Victorian era.
634
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:05,520
What?
635
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,520
Moving on.
636
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Yeah there's great performances of the actors even though like the acting, directing and
637
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,320
the dialogue is absolutely awful in Armageddon.
638
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,640
No I'm not segueing half of it back into the...
639
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
Are there good acting performances though?
640
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Yeah.
641
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,120
Are there?
642
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,120
Yeah.
643
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:29,120
From who?
644
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Um well there is that moment that you know every young couple have where you're listening
645
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:43,760
to your dad sing and you're shoving animal crackers down Liv Tyler's underpants.
646
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,320
Every young couple has had that moment.
647
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,320
Hashtag relatable.
648
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,320
Yeah hashtag relatable.
649
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,320
Hashtag this could be us.
650
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,320
If you answered my question.
651
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,720
Hashtag this could be us if you answered my calls and unblocked me on social media.
652
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,200
It is such a weird...
653
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:02,000
Someone pointed out and it feels like it might have been a cracked video.
654
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,760
It feels like I'm stealing it from a cracked video but being that they got sold and that
655
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,760
turned to garbage.
656
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,240
I feel I can steal it now.
657
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:15,020
But yeah it is such a weird premise of Ben Affleck, Liv Tyler drive off into the countryside
658
00:44:15,020 --> 00:44:24,760
to obviously like fear bang and you have Aerosmith playing and he's literally shoving animal
659
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,880
crackers down her underpants and you're like...
660
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,520
You know that was all added later right?
661
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,520
It's still in the movie.
662
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Yeah yeah yeah but they didn't...
663
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:34,520
It wasn't part of the original movie.
664
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,920
Do you know why that was added?
665
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,120
Because Ben Affleck had animal crackers on him?
666
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:47,280
No because Titanic was so successful that they thought oh maybe we should have like
667
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,280
a love story in this movie and it'll also be successful.
668
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,280
But it was.
669
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,280
Yeah.
670
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,280
So it's accurate.
671
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,280
But there was no love story.
672
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:57,480
Okay so they...
673
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,920
Even when they were filming they had to like...
674
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,080
Wait so the whole...
675
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,800
You're telling me the whole relationship between Liv Tyler and AJ was added after they were
676
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,800
finished with the movie?
677
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,800
No I don't think they'd finished filming but they had certainly started filming before
678
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:25,600
they started before they decided to do that and it was literally because yeah there was...
679
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,840
Titanic was so successful and specifically successful with teenage girls and they were
680
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,280
like shit we can get a whole new demographic to this movie if we put a love story in.
681
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:43,800
So the whole beginning of Bruce Willis trying to kill him, him being fired was unrelated?
682
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,800
But then the...
683
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:50,960
No no no it was all I assume rewritten so they could add this love story in.
684
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,960
So I don't know what the hell...
685
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,960
That is a huge portion of the movie.
686
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,240
Yeah I don't know what the relationship was between them when they initially...
687
00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:02,960
Yeah because like why the hell would Ben Affleck like who loses the drawing of the...
688
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,120
We don't know how far into the movie they were doing it.
689
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,280
Yeah yeah yeah so they literally rewrote the script because the script that they started
690
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,880
filming with did not have any romantic subplot in it.
691
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,640
There was no relationship.
692
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,640
It was literally after Titanic was successful with...
693
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:24,120
And specifically successful with teenage girls that they were like oh shit.
694
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,120
So they were all filmed...
695
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Yeah so it says they were all filmed late in production.
696
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,960
Late in production is what it says.
697
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:35,760
Which means they must have filmed most of the movie without Ben.
698
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,120
Which is crazy to me because it's like every scene that he's in almost is...
699
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,280
Yeah it's the core part of the movie for those three characters.
700
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,200
Maybe that's why the relationship between him and Harry is so weird.
701
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,000
That he goes from like hating him to like I can't trust him, of course I trust him,
702
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:57,080
I can't trust him, I love him like a son, you know it's like...
703
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,080
It's such a weird...
704
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,920
I mean it just keeps fluctuating or maybe that's why because it literally...
705
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,920
Maybe some of those scenes were already filmed before.
706
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:10,120
It's nuts to me because I can't...
707
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:17,760
I don't know how that relationship could have not been in it from the beginning.
708
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,560
I'm lost.
709
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:26,640
The relationships in Deep Impact are far more like grounded in reality.
710
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,120
You have...
711
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,600
I can't remember the characters name.
712
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,600
Which one?
713
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:33,600
The reporter.
714
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:34,600
Jenny.
715
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,400
Jenny reconnecting with her dad.
716
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:37,400
Yeah.
717
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:43,440
Obviously her mum committing suicide I feel like she did because she gets dressed up and
718
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,120
then she gets found dead before it happens.
719
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,120
Yeah it's very...
720
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,120
It's kind of left for interpretation I think.
721
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:59,520
Because it's revealed that so they can put a million people in this bunker and...
722
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,520
Anybody over 50, yeah.
723
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:09,600
Yeah so 200,000 of them are pre-selected important people and scientists etc.
724
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:10,600
Nerds.
725
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,560
And the other 800,000 are selected randomly from a lottery but they announce...
726
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,760
And they make her announce on TV and she's doing this knowing that her parents are going
727
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,600
to be excluded from it.
728
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:28,320
They announce that no one over the age of 50 will be included in the lottery.
729
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,320
Which is horrible.
730
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,400
And her mother is like oh I feel free now actually knowing that.
731
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:41,360
Which is actually I mean that is textbook warning signs for suicide.
732
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,360
Yeah.
733
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,760
It's like suddenly feeling...
734
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,440
Like a weight's lifted off you and you're like cool I can do whatever I want now.
735
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,440
Yeah yeah.
736
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,560
So if you have friends who are like very very depressed and still just all of a sudden out
737
00:48:54,560 --> 00:49:00,640
of nowhere they're like really happy and seem really free and relaxed and they're like acting
738
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,640
almost euphoric.
739
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:08,600
It can be a sign that they have made a decision to end their life.
740
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640
And I think that's what's implied in this.
741
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:12,640
It's never...
742
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,960
I don't think it's not really outright said.
743
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,960
Yeah.
744
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,600
Baby Elijah, the girl next door, they get married.
745
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,600
Yeah they're teenagers.
746
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,520
They're like 16 or 17.
747
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,480
It's a very cute, innocent...
748
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:32,360
Because the impromptu line that cracked me up of the like bro don't you know famous people
749
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,360
get laid?
750
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,040
You're going to have way more sex than everybody else.
751
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,040
And like baby Elijah's there like I will?
752
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,800
And then all the girls are like ha they're talking about you.
753
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,080
To the girl next door.
754
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:51,320
Yeah so it's the guy, the actor's name is Jason Doring.
755
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,960
So they do like a press conference almost but it's a school assembly and it's Leo Biederman
756
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,600
and Elijah Wood's character talking to everyone about how he helped discover the asteroid.
757
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,840
And literally one of the kids stands up and just says you're going to have more sex than
758
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,680
anyone else in our class.
759
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:12,080
And that was improvised so all of the reactions to that are genuine.
760
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:16,760
It was like the little sister being like scandalized.
761
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,880
It's very funny.
762
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,800
I like it.
763
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,320
My boy was an Armageddon.
764
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,320
What boy?
765
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:28,320
Keith David.
766
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,320
Oh yeah your boy.
767
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,320
Yeah well I said that my boy was...
768
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,320
My boy Elijah Wood was a deep impact.
769
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:45,520
You know there's just far more human stories and deep impacts than the beer guzzling American
770
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,520
flag totem.
771
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,560
And a lot more very emotional moments.
772
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:54,000
Yeah like the reporter, what was her name?
773
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:01,320
Jenny gives up the seat to her boss slash co-worker who was the doctor in ER.
774
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,320
The one that ended up, I can't remember the actress's name, actor's name sorry.
775
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:10,000
I can't find the name very quickly.
776
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,000
She developed a curve in her spine.
777
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,000
Neuro-Inners.
778
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:23,320
Yeah because she played a doctor in ER for years who had a house-esque leg injury.
779
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:24,320
Oh okay.
780
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:29,800
And because she constantly used a crutch constantly on screen for how long of a TV show, seasons
781
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,200
of TV shows back in the day ran for I think there were like 22 episodes.
782
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,080
So you can imagine how much time she spent pretending to have like a crippled leg which
783
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,240
is she calls her to have a spine injury.
784
00:51:41,240 --> 00:51:51,920
But anyway yeah her selfishness, selflessness of giving up her seat to this woman who's
785
00:51:51,920 --> 00:52:00,880
not exactly nice to her but it's a very like I'm the biggest fish in this pond so until
786
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,080
I move on to bigger and better things you just stay out of my way.
787
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,320
I think it's I don't think I think it's a more complicated relationship than that because
788
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,000
I think they get on very well at the beginning of the movie and I think the tension arises
789
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:19,400
between them when she realizes that Jenny knew about the story which is like it's about
790
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,400
the apocalypse.
791
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,720
The biggest story they could possibly have that she knew about it and didn't tell the
792
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:26,840
rest of the studio.
793
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:31,200
So she starts to feel betrayed like oh Jenny has done this to undermine me which is not
794
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,200
really what's happened.
795
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,200
I just realized what the other movie we should have watched what this is.
796
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,200
This is the end.
797
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,200
No.
798
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,200
I was joking.
799
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,200
It's not the same.
800
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,200
Yeah.
801
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,200
I think.
802
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,200
Because that's literally a biblical apocalypse with demons.
803
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:52,560
Yeah that more recent movie that I haven't watched and don't really have any interest
804
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,560
in watching, Don't Look Up.
805
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:54,560
Oh yeah.
806
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,560
I think that's similar to these.
807
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,880
Very similar.
808
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,680
It's more of a dig.
809
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,840
Like Armageddon is very patriotic.
810
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:11,300
Deep Impact for me feels like the all American like family adventure movie.
811
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:12,760
Like it's supposed to feel wholesome.
812
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:19,040
Like Armageddon literally has like American flags billowing constantly.
813
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,920
There is a moment where he's like let me show you how it's done in my country and starts
814
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,840
firing gun but he fires it through the American flag logo.
815
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:27,840
Yeah.
816
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,840
That's always funny.
817
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:29,840
The.
818
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:30,840
Yeah.
819
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:38,000
Don't Look Up is interesting because it is a satire but it is way more close to reality
820
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:43,320
of people looting and going absolutely crazy because even if it was just like martial law
821
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,560
and there's a thing it's like we're all gonna die.
822
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,340
Like it should be a giant party.
823
00:53:48,340 --> 00:53:52,480
Like are the police gonna stop me from doing fentanyl in the street?
824
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,640
No they're worried about like the fact that their family don't have any water because
825
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,400
why would the water maintenance dude turn up to work?
826
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,840
Even the president was like you're gonna do your job and you're gonna pay taxes.
827
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,640
Yeah I do like that.
828
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,640
It's like I resign.
829
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,640
Like I'm gonna take my holiday.
830
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,120
Like fuck you what are you gonna do about it?
831
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,320
What is the president gonna come down here and kick my ass?
832
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:17,120
But I like that in Deep Impact the president says like I don't want people taking advantage
833
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:24,760
of this to raise prices so I'm freezing all wages and I'm freezing all prices of everything
834
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,600
because I think that was very realistic to be like okay because there will be people
835
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,280
I don't know if you've seen it there are people who will try to you know take advantage of
836
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,280
this.
837
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,960
You know the stuff that I know about in New Zealand what happened during lockdown where
838
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:43,280
the government handed out money to big businesses and were like you're not gonna do anything
839
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,880
and then when those big businesses closed stores fired staff combined like locations
840
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,320
and the government was like where was that like 60 something million dollars they gave
841
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,720
to this business in particular.
842
00:54:55,720 --> 00:54:56,720
Should I name names?
843
00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:00,840
It doesn't really matter no international listeners don't care but the warehouse did
844
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,840
it.
845
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,360
They closed down their stores they fired well they made their staff redundant and they combined
846
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,520
certain locations from both warehouse stationary into just the warehouse and now you go into
847
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:15,000
certain warehouses and it also has a section warehouse stationary very much like farmers
848
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:21,840
did with Stevens even though they were owned by the same people originally anyway but yeah
849
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,680
and then when the government was like hey you promised us not to do that also you've
850
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:32,280
had a hundred and thirty million dollars profit more than last year give us back the sixty
851
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,160
million dollars we get sixty plus million dollars when they gave you and they were like
852
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,600
oh we don't have it right now we'll give it to you later and the government was like well
853
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:46,760
we will be coming for it but like yeah okay later's fine but that was ridiculous and the
854
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:54,880
exact same thing would happen during any anything greed wins out because human beings when it
855
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:59,080
comes to money and fucking over your fellow man wear scumbags.
856
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,680
If I have a service and you need it and there's no way you can go to somebody else and there's
857
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:12,960
no market for people to worry about shopping around because you need it tomorrow or now
858
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,320
people will price gauge.
859
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,320
Yep.
860
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:25,480
It's a simple fact like shipping in New Zealand shipping internationally has changed so much
861
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:31,760
since COVID ended it used to be so much better and it's terrible now I'm just salty because
862
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,840
I've been waiting seven days for a package that came from like only a couple of hundred
863
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:44,280
kilometers away and it's bullshit anyway seven hours I had it just driving around just driving
864
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:49,080
around with my package seven hours wasn't delivered still salty.
865
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,200
Hopefully by the time this episode comes out you will have your package.
866
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:58,800
If not I will be renting a car and going to the warehouse and kicking the door in.
867
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Yeah because you'll have had time to get a license.
868
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,440
Yeah because that's how long it takes them to friggin deliver anything.
869
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,280
That's ridiculous no I'll steal your phone and use your account.
870
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,880
I can drive just not legally well by myself anyway.
871
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:26,440
The yeah the the human story is just so glazed over like the relationship yeah the relationships
872
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:36,000
they have like you've got Harry his daughter AJ Steve Buscemi and a illegal maybe illegal
873
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:42,920
immigrant but like an immigrant prostitute slash tripper.
874
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,840
He also owns lots of money to the mob loan sharks because he thought he was going to
875
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,840
die.
876
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:54,440
I think all the people with like wholesome family backgrounds the ones that all die.
877
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:59,000
Yeah the guy who owns a ranch the guy who's like loves his mum.
878
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:07,120
Liv Tyler in Armageddon has to pull the weight of being the sole representative of all the
879
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,600
humans on earth who were going to lose loved ones except it doesn't it falls flat because
880
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,520
she doesn't actually care about the earth surviving she cares about people who are on
881
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,520
the asteroid surviving.
882
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:23,600
Yeah she's got an itching and the only thing that could survive that it's a soul that itch
883
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,600
is animal cricket.
884
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:34,360
But yeah so it just falls short whereas you get so many varied human stories in in Deep
885
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,160
Impact even from the beginning when we don't know what's happening yet and and Jenny goes
886
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:45,440
to James Cromwell's character and he's like I you know I want to spend time with my family
887
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,440
wouldn't you?
888
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,440
Yeah.
889
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:55,520
You know the president is very human the you get like the stories with the reporter the
890
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:02,040
other reporters and then Jenny her relationship with her dad and her stepmom and her mom and
891
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:07,440
you get Leo Biederman Elijah Woods character where he's you know him and his family get
892
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:13,400
selected and he like that in a desperate attempt to save his girlfriend and her family he marries
893
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:19,200
her and then they won't take her family so she stays and then he gives up his place in
894
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:26,800
the the bunker to go back for her and that moment that I find emotional I found it emotional
895
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:33,560
this time too even knowing it was coming when he catches up to them in the in the on the
896
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:38,760
road yeah in the traffic jam and they know they're not going to get away from what's
897
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:45,400
coming yeah and they send they not only send their daughter with him but they also just
898
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,120
like immediately like this like they because they don't say anything to them but they share
899
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,800
this idea and the father puts the baby carrier on her and the mother's like I want you to
900
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:59,200
take yeah the baby take the baby and the daughter is like saying like you know no I can't go
901
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,600
and she's like you need to go and they send her off with with Leo so they can get to high
902
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:09,920
ground on the motorbike and that's like is very emotional yeah and then you have like
903
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:16,920
the the other one that gets me is the so the astronauts who are up there one of them accidentally
904
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,360
look you know he didn't get his visor down in time and looked into the sun and blinded
905
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:27,640
himself yeah and when they decide that they're going to go back and try one last time to
906
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,240
stop it and they know it's a suicide mission they're all going to die they've decided together
907
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,920
they're all going to go they're going to do this because it's them or the whole of the
908
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:42,400
earth yeah and they get like they each get one last call with their families and this
909
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:48,120
guy doesn't want to admit to his his wife and their baby their baby who has been born
910
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:54,720
after he left earth yeah that he can't see them so you have the guy next to him describing
911
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,560
what's happening so that he can pretend he can see them like that's heartbreaking to
912
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:03,880
me yeah that he's about to he's about to go die he's moments before he knows he's going
913
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:13,160
to go sacrifice himself and he doesn't even get to see the baby yeah but he doesn't want
914
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:19,160
them to lose spirit so he's pretending it's very so there's a there's a lot of very emotional
915
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,720
moments in deep invite yeah it is a better movie of the two even though it's lower rated
916
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,760
I do understand why it's lower rated it also didn't do as well in box office I mean it
917
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:36,120
did really well in box office then but Armageddon did better yeah um which sucks maybe just
918
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:41,440
bigger named stars yeah um I mean there's big names in deep impact a couple of them
919
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:45,080
though are you know at the beginnings of their careers but you can say the same about Armageddon
920
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,680
like Owen Wilson was right at the beginning of his career Ben Apstok was was pretty early
921
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:58,360
on in his career if Tyler is only she the movie came out on her 21st birthday yeah um
922
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:05,280
so they're yeah but I don't know maybe it's just the the pull of being a a Disney produced
923
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:10,960
movie and B starring Bruce Willis and C an action movie I think Michael Bay had a career
924
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:20,880
at that point I think he was there's a lot of um there's a lot of so there's he's I don't
925
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:27,840
know if it'd be controversial he's been using a lot of his old footage and trends like there's
926
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:33,840
scenes in Armageddon that literally just had CGI Transformers thrown over the top of it
927
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:47,480
and the same with I think he uh I think it's I know the island is used but I think the
928
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:52,880
other one yeah it was bad boys there's scenes from bad boys that are also used and Transformers
929
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:58,520
to save on their budget because they're just over the top giant stunts so when one of the
930
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:04,040
sequences in the beginning with New York and there's like a line of buses and then like missiles
931
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:09,960
hit them and they explode in a line and they literally just CGI'd in like robot blazers and
932
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:17,480
Autobots yeah and they rolled out and the explosions happened um all right uh I mean
933
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:23,720
Disney have been doing that for decades though yeah because this is his third his third big movie
934
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:32,360
because he did bad boys which is really good yeah um the rock which you love you love the rock
935
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:39,720
why do I love the rock? because it's Nicolas Cage and you're shooting people after asking them if they liked the song
936
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:47,000
rocket man by El Jon okay we've literally never discussed the rock ever so I don't know why you're
937
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:52,040
suddenly like the rock that you love you love Nicolas Cage in movies I don't think I've ever
938
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:58,760
even seen the rock and fall I think I've seen like 20 minutes of it on tv once okay explain the premise
939
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:07,880
yeah so those and then he did Pearl Harbor which obviously was terrible um bad boys 2
940
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:15,560
the island which is my favorite out of all the my only favorite Michael Bay movies why are we
941
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:22,200
just listing Michael Bay movies because we were talking about Korea trajectory wait was the island
942
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:29,640
before Armageddon no no the island came out in 05 that's what I thought so what no you're talking
943
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:35,080
about like wasn't a bigger draw and I was just saying that Michael Bay was on like he was on the
944
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:40,280
trajectory of going up or he could have done an M-Night Shambalan and gone down the toilet if it
945
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:48,680
hadn't been for explosions and CGI all right if you make everything a plot twist and my channel
946
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:53,720
was still on the way up at this point yeah yeah that's what I'm saying like this is pre Sixth Sense
947
01:04:53,720 --> 01:05:00,520
yeah which I only know off the top my head because Sixth Sense was the next movie we were listed
948
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:07,080
oh wait you watched you watched a Michael Bay movie I watched a Michael Bay movie recently
949
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:15,080
was it Armageddon? No it was it was Ambulance oh no it's a terrible movie yeah it's so bad
950
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:20,760
why did you have to remind me that existed I had erased it from my memory well maybe you should
951
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:28,600
have watched the same thing I watched on the plane no for reference when me and Lisa went and visited
952
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:35,640
her family back in Ireland um she watched Ambulance on the plane while I watched uh Race by Wolves
953
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:41,000
Jake Gyllenhaal I like Jake Gyllenhaal yeah and he had to shoot helicopters and an ambulance
954
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:47,960
wait it's so stupid it's just a bad movie now I'm sad because I can remember that I wasted some
955
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:58,680
my time on this earth watching Ambulance awful you want to do some um other trivia yeah more
956
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:07,000
trivia just get some trivia um a whole lot of trivia I've tried to narrow it down for Armageddon
957
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:11,160
there's so much trivia um I've talked about some of it already Steve Buscemi when he was asked why
958
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:18,440
he did the film said he wanted a bigger house it makes sense um Bruce Willis just hated Michael
959
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,520
Bay hated his director so he said I think I haven't taken down the quote but I think the quote was
960
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:27,160
along the lines of when a director is screaming at you on set it doesn't make for a good day at
961
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:35,320
work yeah um he was also he or Bruce Willis ended up on the film because he was filming
962
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:42,840
a comedy called Broadway Brawler and he thought it was absolutely catastrophic and couldn't be
963
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:49,720
salvaged so he tried to find any way to exit the project so the head of Disney at the time worked
964
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:56,600
out a deal with him where he would star in three films and they would absorb the cost of the
965
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:02,920
failed project right um and then you know he'd get a lower salary so the three films he filmed
966
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:12,520
were Armageddon the sixth sense and unbreakable right um there is in the IMDB trivia for Armageddon
967
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:20,760
it says that NASA shows this films during their management training program and new managers are
968
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:26,200
given the task of trying to find as many errors as possible because there are at least 170 errors
969
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:31,720
yeah I was gonna say I think the number's 168 yeah yeah it's a top record for someone finding
970
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:39,080
them at one first go but it's a lie um someone at NASA has confirmed that that's just a internet
971
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:46,680
myth oh that sucks it's not true um Ben Affleck's teeth were replaced of course um
972
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:55,560
they also said so apparently Ben I don't know it says he I don't know if Michael Bayer Ben Affleck
973
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:01,400
stated this but Jerry Bruckheimer who produced this movie had previously replaced the teeth of
974
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:08,200
another actor but they haven't said who they said a very famous star in a plane movie my guess would
975
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:16,360
be Harrison Ford Air Force One was that a Jerry Bruckheimer film I will look it up now while you
976
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:29,240
continue okay um Top Gun Top Gun oh that is a plane movie because pre Tom Cruise getting super famous
977
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:35,560
he had teeth like mine right so that that would make sense it'd be Top Gun yeah so Jerry Bruckheimer
978
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:42,120
paid to have Tom Cruise's teeth replaced hypothetically yeah and then looking into it now Michael Bayer was
979
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:50,200
like oh I can do that with Ben Affleck's baby teeth um the guns the Gatling guns that are on the
980
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:58,760
armadillos the reason that they are on there is because Mattel had a toy line attached to Armageddon
981
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:05,560
and they told Michael Bay that toy trucks with guns attached to them sell more yeah he literally
982
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:13,800
why do you think he made Transformers movies to sell toys it's literally like funded by Hasbro
983
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,840
literally they were like well if you put guns on them they'll sell more toys he's like all right
984
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:27,800
I can put guns on them that's so stupid um yeah I think I've said most of the rest of it the other
985
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:32,600
thing is that um when Steve Buscemi's character gets space dementia they wrap him in duct tape
986
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,800
which is the actual NASA protocol for both mobilizing crew members who have lost their
987
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:50,520
mind that's literally protocol right uh deep impact um so the so it was inspired by or it was
988
01:09:50,520 --> 01:10:00,200
or part of it was inspired by a real life astronomer uh named Eugene Shoemaker um who discovered or
989
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:11,160
helped discover the Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet um which collided with Jupiter in 1994 the um after he
990
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:20,680
discovered the comet um he was in a car crash and died right in the Australian Outback which is why
991
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:27,800
they have Wolf um you know on his way after figuring out the comet on his way to descend
992
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:35,000
this stuff off uh dies in a car accident so that was kind of an homage to him they also I think
993
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:43,560
the package in his car is addressed to Shoemaker right um which is again an homage to that that
994
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:53,400
um that astronaut or no astronaut astronomer um you mentioned previously that
995
01:10:53,400 --> 01:11:02,120
that Morgan Freeman was the president in this movie yeah which is correct yeah I know that I saw it
996
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:13,560
with netlinks but um the director Mimi Leder uh female director for Deep in Bight is great um
997
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:19,960
she want when she wanted to cast Morgan Freeman as the president the studio objected because they
998
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:28,200
said it isn't realistic to have a black president um and apparently one of the direct quotes that
999
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:33,080
she remembers him saying is we're not making a science fiction movie you can't have Morgan
1000
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:38,760
Freeman play the president that's so dumb um which is stupid for multiple reasons first of all
1001
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:44,680
because yes you can have a black president and second of all because it clearly is a science
1002
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:51,320
fiction movie wrong on all accounts uh but obviously she won that argument because he's
1003
01:11:51,320 --> 01:12:03,960
because he is it because he's played the president a general an ex-ca agent isn't he the president
1004
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:14,840
in other films about the white house dam no uh no um it's uh the in the good one the not Gerald
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01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:19,000
Butler one I don't know which one's the good one but I'll find out when we watch the not Gerald
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01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:27,080
Butler one um uh it's uh uh Jamie Foxx I think is the president oh I thought what's more I feel like
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01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:31,880
he's the president in something else though it might be Olympus's like there were sequels to it
1008
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:37,880
he might be like the secretary of state oh maybe but yeah he's also played god so yeah yeah true
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01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:45,880
I don't think there's one higher than that yeah fair enough um one of the NASA officials in the
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01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:51,640
movie is played by Jerry Griffin who is a former NASA flight director one of the background
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01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:56,680
characters is played by Michael Bay in the other one and Armageddon it would be really weird if
1012
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:01,160
Michael Bay played a background character in deep in but yeah that would be weird um why don't people
1013
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:05,560
that would be great but if I was making a twin a film that I knew that there was another film
1014
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:11,800
going on I would absolutely ask the the crew of that film to to cameo they probably wouldn't be
1015
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:18,520
able to them you're pretty busy you know it's not you can't take a day off yeah you gotta be an
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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:25,560
extra and the other person's production um the ship in this one so yeah the ships in Armageddon
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01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:31,800
are called the independence and the freedom which is bullshit yeah the ship in a deep impact that
1018
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:38,360
goes with true the comic is called the messiah um but it's also not only is it an appropriate
1019
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,640
name because it's you know it's going to save humanity but it's also an inside joke because
1020
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:48,040
when the first space shuttle was being conceived um NASA constructed a full-scale wooden mock-up
1021
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:55,080
of the STS orbiter and they nicknamed it the messiah because everyone who walked into it said
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01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:04,280
Jesus Christ when they saw the size of it so I love that I think that's funny um the waves that
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01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:10,200
goes over New York City and around the the World Trade Center um which are the only buildings
1024
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:18,600
that stick out over the water at the end of it um the first of all the wave comes in from the wrong
1025
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,200
direction it comes up it comes like from the direction of New Jersey apparently instead of
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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:28,760
across the Atlantic which doesn't make any sense but also yeah it does because the Statue of
1027
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:38,920
Liberty is inside the bay yeah it doesn't make any sense why would they do that I guess it looked
1028
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:47,560
good but then people were like wait a second yeah um but also after the uh 9-11 attacks yeah because
1029
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:52,280
of course you talk about this again um television broadcasts of the film were edited to remove
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01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:58,200
the the World Trade Center or the Twin Towers from the film so they don't appear in it in some in
1031
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:06,360
some edits which is interesting um what you look like you just realized something important
1032
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:15,640
no because we watched it um they were in the version we watched it because we we took note
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01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:21,000
of them because literally I wrote down the quote you said not the Twin Towers not again
1034
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:28,280
um what else do I have on here oh no I think I've mentioned all those things
1035
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:35,240
yes I think that's all the stuff I had uh budget and box office so the budget of um
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01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:44,760
Deep Impact was 75 million dollars yeah and the budget of Armageddon was 140 million dollars so
1037
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:55,080
almost twice the amount yep um box office wise Deep Impact made 349.5 million dollars so that's
1038
01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:03,560
some decent cheddar way over breaking even and Armageddon made 553.7 million so definitely
1039
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:11,400
a bigger box office success but also it was a much bigger budget film and had more actors
1040
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:19,880
and could afford to replace all their teeth yeah so not not too much of a shock um but I literally
1041
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:26,120
I don't understand why it's higher rated because it's a worse film on all fronts it's worse writing
1042
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:33,400
it's less scientifically accurate it's worse acting worse storytelling none of it makes sense
1043
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:42,680
it's a bad film it's terrible I don't like it and I don't know why people do the end your thoughts
1044
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:50,680
sir um get on just sign up uh use the throwaway email address uh get on imdb and let's fix let's
1045
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:56,520
vote rig this uh we want to see this our super fans out there I mean you don't even have to
1046
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:03,000
give them like super high you know just like rate rate deep impact is seven yeah and rain are we
1047
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:12,680
getting anything lower than six five four three two um no yeah I don't know it's I just don't get it
1048
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:21,720
I don't understand maybe the lens has changed maybe we've changed over time I don't know
1049
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:29,080
I just it's a very strange I just don't understand I mean they're in fairness they're pretty close
1050
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:36,440
in ratings yeah um because they're both six point something but like I don't get it the critics um
1051
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:43,480
I don't understand so yeah so on rotten tomatoes the critics do prefer deep impact over
1052
01:17:43,480 --> 01:17:50,040
Armageddon but not by much Armageddon's got a 38 percent and deep impact's got 45 percent
1053
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:56,680
but the audience scores on rotten tomatoes as well deep impact's got 43 percent but Armageddon's got
1054
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:02,680
73 percent yeah why what are they like is this just like dude bros who just want to watch
1055
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:08,520
explosions yeah that's it that's the whole audience of this movie yes america and dude bros
1056
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:16,440
the american dude bros explosions is this just like it's just like a maga movie no it's just
1057
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:26,520
no it's just that was a very american standpoint until 2001 which which part was which was let's
1058
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:34,920
watch monuments get exploded and then we go blow up the bad guys with nukes because if I said that
1059
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:44,440
you don't know if I'm explaining deep impact Armageddon or independence day yeah yeah um
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01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:50,280
um can I point out one thing that really bugged me and I'm kicking myself that I'm only remembering
1061
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:57,880
to mention it now in Armageddon the asteroid made roaring noises
1062
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:06,760
yes we did make any nothing about the asteroid made sense it made roaring noises every time it
1063
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,800
was shown on screen and when they were on it and made roaring they're in spacesuits unless they're
1064
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:17,800
touching something they can't hear shit yeah there is so much noise yeah that's a big that's a big
1065
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:22,280
problem with me and is that there's so much noise that they can hear yeah which they wouldn't be
1066
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:31,480
able to um the best character of the entire crew is not one of the oil dudes it's the boy I was
1067
01:19:32,440 --> 01:19:36,680
I don't know who my boy is I was gonna say and I feel like this might be who you're talking about
1068
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:42,840
but I was gonna say the one thing that really annoyed me about Armageddon if we're talking
1069
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:51,160
like little annoyances is Peter Stamari playing a Russian yeah because that to me feels the
1070
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:58,840
exact same as Jared Butler playing an Irish man it's like they were like Sweden is near Russia
1071
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:05,080
I'm sure this is what Russian accents sound like it's like Jared Butler in PS I Love You and they're
1072
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:12,120
like Scottish Irish is the same thing and it's like literally hands them the worst Irish accent
1073
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:23,800
recorded to film beating out Tom Cruise and his shitty what was it far away um yeah I every time
1074
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,800
you know I did like him as a character I thought he was funny he's the best character in the whole
1075
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:34,280
movie but he's a crazy Russian man who's been alone in space for 18 months and then people blow
1076
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:40,840
up his home but the accent is so bad it doesn't matter it also adds to the stupidity he's like
1077
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:47,640
super misogynistic at one point it adds to the stupidity when the the only woman who's allowed
1078
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:55,480
in space in this movie is like trying to fix the ship and he's like no I can I can I don't want to
1079
01:20:55,480 --> 01:20:59,400
fix it and she's like you don't know the spectrum ship I know the spectrum ship and he's like no I
1080
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:04,120
can do it I can do it and then he just literally shoves her out of the way and starts smashing it
1081
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:10,360
yeah and it fixes it yeah but it's misogynistic bullshit okay the whole movie is misogynistic
1082
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:17,240
bullshit because the whole relationship between Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck is that Bruce Willis
1083
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:23,560
thinks he fucking owns Liv Tyler because she's his daughter and therefore he can literally shoot a
1084
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:30,200
man for wanting to to marry her no it's sleeping with her yeah but he literally tries to shoot him
1085
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:35,160
because he says he loves her yeah but if it was the other way around it'd be like cool she's now
1086
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:41,480
your property and I'm holding a shotgun wedding no you want to get really like gritty it's it's
1087
01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:49,160
about a bunch of white men in a ship going to go plant a bomb inside a giant round thing
1088
01:21:49,160 --> 01:22:00,360
a giant round thing? there'd be like egg and spoon reference oh that's stupid and they're going to create an explosion no there's literally two women in that movie and
1089
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,600
well I'll tell you only one of these movies passes the bacterial test
1090
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:14,440
do two women even speak to each other in Armageddon there's only two two women oh no there's sorry
1091
01:22:14,440 --> 01:22:21,960
there are a whole lot of strippers there's a there's the mother of the other guy's child
1092
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:29,240
chick's kid yeah there's a whole lot of strippers yeah and then there's just like Liv Tyler and the
1093
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:34,360
one astronaut who's female who is relegated to being an idiot and doesn't can't do her job
1094
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:42,680
there's also the Cyclops lady looking at Steve Bishimi through the door and the chick that's
1095
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:50,200
really really all about giving people enemas that's reminded me just for some reason when he's talked
1096
01:22:50,200 --> 01:23:01,800
about cyclopses um why why do they have a character in this movie reference pulp fiction as a movie that
1097
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:07,800
exists in this universe without him like ever referencing the fact that two of his crewmates
1098
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:15,080
are identical to characters or like presumably in this universe fucking played the characters in
1099
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:19,960
pulp fiction he's like oh yeah this is my friend Harry the oil rigger who also played that guy in
1100
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,920
pulp fiction the movie that I like but he's not an actor he's just an oil rigger who happens to
1101
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:33,240
have a clone who's in pulp fiction look it must be like last action hero that means nothing to me
1102
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:40,440
well we're gonna have to watch that um I'll put it on we'll do it Thursday we'll watch last action hero
1103
01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:49,400
don't want to it's not optional um I will I'm stronger than you and I have duct tape
1104
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:56,440
no I don't have space to mention it yeah this is becoming by the way our this is gonna be our longest episode
1105
01:23:56,440 --> 01:24:02,760
it's our anniversary it's our anniversary yeah it is our anniversary episode um so
1106
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:11,320
double double movie double the length yeah the my point I'm making is in last action hero where
1107
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:15,640
Arnie plays a character in a movie who gets brought into the real world
1108
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:24,280
when the kid goes into their world the movie world it's Stallone who plays all the characters
1109
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:31,880
Arnie played so it's like that episode of black mirror yeah so depending on which layer layer
1110
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:37,880
deep it is it's either Selma Hayek or cate blanchett Blanchett taking a dump or Annie Murphy
1111
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:43,560
yeah someone's taking a dump and it depends on which level it is I want to know though who did
1112
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:49,080
we ever find out who it is that plays the character in the universe where cate blanchett is the real
1113
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:58,200
person which layer was cate blanchett so there's a boilers for black mirror seasons five the whatever
1114
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:04,040
the latest season is the first episode is a is a whole thing is it what the episode is
1115
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:08,440
Joan is awful Joan is awful okay spoilers for that skip the next couple of minutes if you
1116
01:25:08,440 --> 01:25:13,160
don't want to hear about that so there's the base layer where there's which isn't the one that we
1117
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,080
see which is Joan who's the actual person yeah so there's the base there which is Joan and then
1118
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:22,840
there is Annie Murphy yeah and then there's Selma Hayek and then there's cate blanchett yeah but
1119
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:29,880
there's obviously like a whole lot other it just keeps going possibly yeah so who who plays her in
1120
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,160
the cate blanchett universe I can't remember if we find out or not because we see like a whole
1121
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:38,440
montage of them all I don't know we might have to just re-watch the episode oh god it's a good
1122
01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:44,440
episode though actually very pertinent to the current writer strike presuming that when this
1123
01:25:44,440 --> 01:25:50,120
episode comes out the writer strike is still going which it may or may not be yeah um because
1124
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:55,800
we've got the episode before this episode is coming out tomorrow when we're recording this so
1125
01:25:55,800 --> 01:26:03,960
it's two weeks till this episode comes out spoilers for real life um so I don't know yeah so currently
1126
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:11,160
there is in the universe we're living in right now there is a sagatra and a writer's deal of
1127
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:18,760
america um strike ongoing and I don't think it's going to be resolved anytime soon um but that's
1128
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:25,160
fine because we've got lots of other media to consume and we don't read a book folks yeah but
1129
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:31,400
also like the infinite amount of movies and tv shows that already exist there's like a ridiculous
1130
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:37,000
amount of material like just movies in general there there's no way for you possibly to have seen
1131
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:42,920
them all yeah even if we sat there and watched one dvd out of every one of my dvd collection
1132
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:48,040
it would take us over a year yeah and that's basing it on like just ones that you already own
1133
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:54,840
and that's not including that's 700 and I think it's like 700 I've got on on dvd but that's not
1134
01:26:54,840 --> 01:27:04,360
including like so if I could ever convince you to watch star trek there's four discs per
1135
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:15,720
season like yeah four discs per season so there's four episodes per disc and no it's way more than
1136
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:22,120
that but also the point being is like it's only counted individual titles yeah and there are
1137
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:27,480
62 discs for the portal collection of stargate yeah so there's 10 seasons and two movies plus
1138
01:27:27,480 --> 01:27:34,840
the prequel movie so that's but even if you watched a disc per day it's like 60 days that's
1139
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:40,600
more than we'll say more than we'll say three months I don't want but also what I was going
1140
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:46,120
to say is there's been no boycott called for for watching streaming services at the moment
1141
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:51,080
so what they actually want right now currently I don't could have changed by two weeks time
1142
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:57,080
is for people to continue using streaming services to put the demand up yeah because if we stop
1143
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:03,720
using streaming services um the demand drops and then the you know the companies can be like oh
1144
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:08,680
well you know no one wants your talent anyway so and also they'd have they wouldn't have any
1145
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:15,480
residuals to pay even though the residuals are minuscule stupidly low amount at the moment um
1146
01:28:15,480 --> 01:28:21,320
the best thing to do is to increase the demand so that they suddenly panic about not having new
1147
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:28,760
content to give you because everyone's on strike yeah um they messed up the witcher
1148
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:37,640
they messed up everything I don't understand oh the 1990s 1899 pissed me off yeah 1899 pissed me off
1149
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:42,280
those who don't know um the same creators who made dark which if you haven't seen
1150
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:50,360
finish this episode and then start watching that dark is amazing um it was written with three
1151
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:55,320
seasons in mind and they went to the studio which was the people who picked them up which was netflix
1152
01:28:55,320 --> 01:29:02,680
and said this is what we're making and they're like cool contract signed done then they brought
1153
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:11,080
them back to make a new series which was 1899 which is again just as confusing and crazy as dark is
1154
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,160
and they're just like oh the reception wasn't that great so we're just going to cancel it
1155
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:20,680
um and it's like cool so all the people who actually liked it yeah we'll never find out what
1156
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:27,000
was supposed to happen yeah and it's so insane you can't guess it yeah it's not like who's the
1157
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,840
murderer yeah because I mean if you're watching the first season of dark you have no idea where
1158
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:35,880
it's going yeah um the one that annoys me on a different streaming services that's doing the
1159
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:43,560
same bullshit is edge of history on disney plus is that your national treasure show yeah it's
1160
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:49,880
the national treasure series which is actually a pretty decent series um and it's just going to
1161
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:55,400
go nowhere because they just decided oh I didn't get enough revenue or whatever so cancel it but
1162
01:29:55,400 --> 01:30:01,000
disney plus have also been doing bullshit where they're literally canceling things and removing
1163
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:08,200
them from the platform like days after they're released and it's probably specifically so they
1164
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:15,080
don't have to pay any residuals rather than like actually caring about anything to do with the show
1165
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,360
I think the other big problem is is there's too many streaming services
1166
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:26,360
because there's now like what um apple tv paramount paramount plus yeah prime video
1167
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:35,400
prime video netflix disney plus peacock yeah hulu neon neon sky but that's only like new
1168
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:42,600
zealand but that the only reason they exist is to screw over older people there's sky there's paid
1169
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:48,120
sky services in ireland and the uk do they only survive on people that are past retired
1170
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:55,080
retirement age because how sky exists and it's like 200 a month for less stuff than you get from
1171
01:30:55,080 --> 01:31:02,920
netflix sorry dad if you're listening no i think my parents have stopped i've stopped it's ridiculous
1172
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:09,080
there's sky subscriptions they used to have um yeah i don't know there's a lot there's a lot of
1173
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:13,480
uh is youtube still doing well youtube you have to buy them individually do you or do you get
1174
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:21,960
or do they also have a no one no one buys youtube premium no one has that no but they did they had
1175
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:29,320
no human but you don't know no listener right now knows anybody with youtube but they had um youtube
1176
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:34,920
red where they were producing films and yeah and they went down the toilet because no one wants
1177
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:39,800
to pay for free content but they do have movies and stuff that you can pay individually for
1178
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:46,280
you can do that to buy around movies on youtube or in google as well yeah i don't know there's
1179
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:52,280
so much this is why piracy is coming back folks we're back on the seven seas yeah and we're at we're
1180
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:59,880
back to a point where creatives actors and writers and crew members whatever are actively
1181
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:06,600
encouraging piracy because they're not making money off it either way yeah take that metallica
1182
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:15,960
why metallica you don't remember the whole thing with um uh uh napster and how they went on strike
1183
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:21,960
and they weren't touring and doing music until you you know what actually bugs me this this is
1184
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:29,480
hilarious because i'm a huge was a huge game of thrones fan why is jojo rr martin also joins the
1185
01:32:29,480 --> 01:32:34,760
writers strike he's not writing anything i think he's writing things that aren't he needs to be
1186
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:44,120
writing ice fire i from what i've heard i think he's like totally lost interest in that after
1187
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:48,520
it doesn't matter they messed it up but i think most people go to work and don't enjoy their jobs
1188
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:54,280
every day but people rely on them do you think a nurse turns up to work here's the thing no one is
1189
01:32:54,280 --> 01:33:01,240
relying on george rr martin writing more books i am you're not you will survive you will live
1190
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:08,200
i am dying i am dying a little bit every day that i don't have the winds of winter at this point
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no one gives a shit i do there are lots of people who do thank you very much
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no no that's your opinion and you're entitled to it even though it's wrong that's just like
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your opinion man yeah it isn't just like your opinion man um you can find us located in places
1194
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uh we're trying to find a new source of social media um because a lot of them are very right
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wing or very limiting um threads is apparently uh doxing people so unfortunately we're still on
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twitter um you can also find us on facebook and uh join our discord and i would encourage you to
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join i will talk to you personally if you join our discord i will say hello to you you could just like
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literally tag me and i will have a conversation with you and you can tell me i'm wrong about
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things go into our memes channel and like the meme that i will have inevitably posted after this
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episode where it's the zero days since we talked about 9 11 yeah yeah um zero episodes zero episodes
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yeah sorry uh tumblr is somewhere that we are where i never use the platform that i well i'm
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a tumblr veteran i have been using tumblr for over a decade i think at this point um on and off
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though i stopped for a while uh but we do have an intake to tumblr um and i would say it's more
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active than a lot of our other social media but mainly because our other social media or as you
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know like twitter i've kind of lost interest in facebook knowing cares about it instagram it's
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just very professional whereas tumblr um is designed for reblogging stuff and um i reblog
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a lot of film related content onto where it takes to um tumblr we had a thing going with youtube
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shorts that we should probably do some more of at some point but they're very frustrating to
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organize because we're with very busy people um we do have our we do upload our episodes on youtube
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also you might be listening to this on youtube in which case thank you for listening to us on youtube
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um yeah i don't know you'll find us there's details in the these places we are our website
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it takes to dot co dot nz so if you go there there's links to all the other places it's also
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in the show notes of this episode yeah regardless of whether you're listening on youtube or on a
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podcatcher somewhere it'll it'll have the show notes with with um links and handles and what
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have you arms and legs yeah usually it's it takes to pod or it takes to underscore pod or just
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it i think each our youtube is it takes to nz um but yeah you'll find us we're we're around
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i do by the way our tumblr is like way more active than any of our other social media i
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think we literally have two followers other than me so it please write and follow and we blog some
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stuff let's not say does anybody actually use tumblr anymore tumblr has become increasingly
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more popular especially after all the shit went down on reddit uh there's a lot of people who
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were on twitter have migrated to tumblr there's a lot of people who were on reddit and stopped
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caring about reddit when all the weird third party stuff happened it's just because people
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don't like ads um yeah no i don't know the third party apps on reddit were they're used for a lot
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more things i've known apparently the like blind community can no longer use reddit oh that sucks
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um because there's a whole lot of third party apps for reddit for like screen readers and things
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right that they've now blocked usage of um so they've lost like anyone who can you probably
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members of the dyslexic community as well you know um that they've totally alienated uh tumblr has
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third party plugins that are like bizarre i don't know when did you become a salesman
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i don't know no one's ever been a salesman for tumblr because tumblr is a hellhole anyway
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social medias follow us find us follow us you know do at me on discord yeah join our discord
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that's probably the easiest best place to follow us because we're literally there like i will
1232
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respond to anything that you actually ask me for clarity the reason that nick is pushing your
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discord is because nick has no involvement on any of our other social media yeah i want yeah nick
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does not tweet from our account nick does not use our instagram nick does not even know tumblr exists
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i don't know allowed to know the passwords nick knows nick didn't even know we had a tumblr until
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this moment i think even though i've mentioned it in the past like dozen episodes um but but if
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you go on our discord nick will talk to you yeah even if you like it or not um and you can you can
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leave us a little message on there to tell us where you're listening from yeah and any suggestions
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for episodes you want us to do if you've got any family members who happen to be scientists in
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tātaka please send them link because it's the only content we still haven't been listened on
1241
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yeah um and i want this podcast will not end until that happens that is one that and i get paid um
1242
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so two things we've technically been paid once yeah it's very exciting i think we made like 40
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dollars the podcast in two years of podcasting it's still more money than well it didn't cost us
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anything other than time anyway we're ranting about stuff that's irrelevant to anything yeah so
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thank you for joining us and we'll catch you next time also just thank you for listening to us for
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the past two years or if not you've got like 52 episodes to catch up on yeah but thank you to
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those of you who have listened to us from the beginning and stick around and we hope you stick
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around for more years thanks thanks phil thanks floyd i don't know if anyone else has listened to
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every episode uh if you have let us know on social media or on discord um yeah yeah let's wrap up all
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right good bye good bye
