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The first time, I went like this, and I was like,
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and I brought it back down and held it with me,
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and he kept yelling and screaming, and I did it
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again and all no.
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I like that from each other.
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I went to go grab Riley. I turned my head.
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She says, oh.
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And then the next thing I know, I can't feel faced.
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Dude like he he literally socked me as hard as
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he could in the face.
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I was seeing stars.
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Officer Riley and Austin thought they could outsmart everyone until
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the police uncovered their twisted plane.
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What do you what do you do?
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What do you do with the guy's eyes bolting out
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of his head and there's brain laying.
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Yeah, I don't know what to do with them.
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Man, he's it's to the head and he's bleeding out.
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Man, there's nothing I can do.
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He's got blood everywhere. Man, just just he's can't he can't.
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Hear watch some of the videos, it showed a little
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bit different picture of what happened.
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So the partners just got back and there's video surveillance
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at the few of those trailers right along that part way.
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Were you aware of that?
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Okay, this is the instant he understands he can't get
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away anymore. Officers were moments away from exposing a horrifying truth,
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the dark secret behind his best friend's murder.
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He where's the gun up? Oh? Right in the face.
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Do you think that being shocked in this situation is
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was the appropriate action that to handle her?
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Yeah? Maybe not in the face, but yeah.
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Well why ay ay.
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I'm not a fan of U any of that. I
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don't like I don't like violence.
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Yeah, I got him.
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When officers arrived on May twenty twenty one, they had
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no idea they were about to unravel a deeply twisted
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love triangle.
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We have a GSWI the head. He's breathing, not conscious.
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On the middle of the road where the remains of
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twenty six year old Michael Tripp.
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What do you need me to do?
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Nearby, police discovered a man identified as Austin Green, who
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would turn out to be the most crucial figure in
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the investigation.
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It's my partner, explained, You're not in trouble, right, Okay.
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We just got a lot of stuff we gotta do
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right now.
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So I don't even know what happened.
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Man.
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He came and bust into out and then Riley.
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It's a long story, like Riley and that guy were
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like messing around and stuff. But this is the father
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of her children's house. She's only been gone from here
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for not even two weeks, so she came back. She
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wanted to come home, and dude ran up and punched
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the window out, So she came out here to come
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talk to him, and then Austin walked out to make
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sure she was okay.
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And I guess, dude like hit Riley or something.
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The girl.
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I guess dude hit Riley. And then all I.
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Heard was witness testimony led officers to another suspect, Riley Young,
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who had played a role in the series of events
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ending with Michael's death.
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We got here, she made a steaming when we were
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putting her in the car that he hit her.
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Yeah, that's what he was telling me too, that he
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was especially on her windows.
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You know, his girls from shut him.
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So got shellcasing here that was next to the body.
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We got to do this camp right here, m.
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Dude, she chases the victim down here, search Pete, not him.
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Suspect comes flying in, gets into a fucking rate from
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the car there, like, consider your shoving match, meet you.
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Away right here, pulls a gunna and pop him right
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the head.
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Jesus. She runs back and he just calmly walks back.
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Oh fuck that.
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We'll grab a splash of fuel, man, and I'll get
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you over there and get those cuffs off you. All right,
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m hmmm, something I believe. Hey, I'm not I'm not
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here to judge. Man. We're all the same as you. Man,
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Humans make mistakes, have emotions. W no different. All right,
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I man, watch this stuff on that curve right there.
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Just get across that grass and over the cements here.
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We'll get some shoes up there too, so you can
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just have a seat right here for now. Let me
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make a phone call, try and expedite this a little
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bit realistically, I thought the office right here would be
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open for you.
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From the outset. They were odd signs taking into custody
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for a murder investigation. Riley and Austin somehow managed to
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fall asleep in the interrogation room. But this was just
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the beginning.
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Way to Detective Surs. Is your water here?
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Okay, Hey Austin, sorry to wait.
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Yeah, my new detective swarves with the Sheriff's office. All right,
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I know you've been in here a little bit do
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you need Do you want something to drink? Some water, coffee,
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anything like that while while we wait. We'll be with
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you here in a few Okay, Okay, you're sure you
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don't want any water? They said they were gonna bring
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me some, Okay, don but no, I'll go grab you
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some water right now.
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We're sure. Coffee, I'm about to put a pot on.
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I need something's early, okay, all right, I'll get you
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some water here. Okay.
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Of course it was time for Miranda rights. Everything from
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this point until the very end is absolutely crucial in
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understanding the twisted dynamics.
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All right, So obviously we've got some supparante. We got
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to talk about everything that I that had it last
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night before we talk, because right now you are a custoy.
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You're not free to leave. I do got to reach
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you your right before we can talk. Okay, if common
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something you be on TV? All right?
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Stread along here with me and the race mareen silent.
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Anything you say can it will be used against you
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in a.
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Cork of law.
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So Austin again, my name is Jeff Hooper. I'm a
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detective with the Sheriff's office. Is a detective lair Okay,
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I'd like to sit down with you and talk to
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you about what transpired tonight, okay, because there's two sides
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to every story, and I want to get your side
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of the story. Okay, fair enough, Okay, Now, Austin, based
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on the circumstances here, obviously, you know you got put
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in handcuffs and everything like that, there's ru certain rules
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that I have to follow, and in order to talk
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to you, Okay, I have to read to your Miranda rights. Yes, okay,
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those are the rules that I have to follow, a right,
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and I follow the rules that don't break the rules, okay.
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But the only thing that I ask is is that
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you be honest with me.
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Okay.
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This is a This is a two way street here
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because you know what, You're gonna have questions. I'm gonna
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have questions, okay, And so it works by both of
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us talking together.
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Okay.
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So I'm gonna go over these first, all right.
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Advise that you.
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Understand after each one, Okay, you have the right to
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remain silent. Do you understand that anything you say cannon
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will be used against you in a court?
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Lag? Do you understand that?
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But before moving forward, the relationships need to be organized
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and understood, tell me what's going on?
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Okay, So Austin and my kid's dad, I've got up
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to us two weeks ago.
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I happened Michael, And how long have you went Austin
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bunch agothers?
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Three years? Three years?
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And I kind of.
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Being stupid, never grow with them.
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Two weeks ago and I got Michael, Well, I just
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want to get all the relationship figure out of them.
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We can go into everything that happened. So they broke
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up two weeks ago?
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Yeah, did you don't Michael before?
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Okay? So after?
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Where you gonna talking pre breakoup? Or was it after
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breakup of the relation.
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Should have sorted it? Were you just talking to hooking
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up with baby?
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Although last a few pictures.
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Of us on Facebook? And then I was like talking
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or yeah something.
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Some more not quite beating relationship.
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I did it.
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At first glance, this case might remind you of another
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we've covered. That setup seems familiar, a jealous as a
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new relationship and a girlfriend tangled between them, But as
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the story unfolds, it becomes clear that this girlfriend might
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be the one masterminding the whole scheme.
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To last night earlier, I picked my little brother up
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from Ditsy's skate b I'm around ten thirty and I
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dropped Michael off at home and I got back and I.
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Went talked to us, and then I came back and
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I told him like, well, I didn't.
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Wanna be with him any more.
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And he showed up at my mom's house. Okay, explain
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that old a one.
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My mom was two streets over and I was watching
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my little brother from my mom.
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Cause she wasn't home.
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Okay, So you ever went Michael earlier though?
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Yeah, I was with him all morning. He stayed at
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my mom's with me the night before last night.
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I was with 'em all morning and I was like, hey.
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I need to think about some stuff. I wanna drop
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you off at home and I'll tell you. I'll like,
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you know what's going through my head about right now.
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I just I need to think about my whole entire life.
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And so you know, I'm gonna get my little brother
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from skating. I go and talk to us, and I
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get back to my mom's to go check with my brother.
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So you talked to boss away, Yeah, Well, dropped Michael off.
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I dropped him off at his grandma's wherethay at.
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I forgot Yeah, yeah, you showed up at my house.
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I would like to do discuse you.
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I really didn't want you. You salt, I want a car ride.
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I don't like free genre on my little dove.
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What's the time right?
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Having sorted out the relationships, the detectives can now turn
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our attention to the series of events on the last
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day that led to Michael's death.
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Between I think eleven is when he showed up back
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at my house eleven and then I probably dropped him
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off again at.
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Eleven thirty because I'm the teachers when I want.
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A car ride, so you can call him down. And
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then I drolled back to his grandma's house all the time,
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and I was like, yeah, I just want you to
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get out of my daughter.
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Okay, So you after you dropped your Michael off, you
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would pick your brother up.
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Yep, he would back the mobs. Yeah okay, oh you're right.
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Flows And that was about a lot of eleven A
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light red night at night, A love it.
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At night, yeah.
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Okay, and the Flanel shows back up.
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Yeah. So you know it's like, do you want to
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get back in the carless me, We'll go on a drive.
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We'll figure this out.
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What's he say, when he shows up there crying, wants
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to be with you?
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Yeah, alcohol related, at drugs or just at home?
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In love?
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He is, Wow, he ch in love.
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I guess I don't.
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Okay, draggle with light right now?
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What was was someone that quick?
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But I dropped most back his grandma's.
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You know.
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I tacked him for a little while, and then I
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told him probably you ravel.
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Two two fifteen in.
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The morning, that I didn't wanna be with him anymore.
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He said that, said, I'm walking to your house. I said, no,
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you're not. I'm gonna go talk to Austin.
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I'd rather you not come over.
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I don't I don't wanna deal with that. No one
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wants to deal with it right now. When I blocked
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him on everything.
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Where'd you text them a Facebook? Uh? Napchat?
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You said, nap chat?
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I said, lap text something? Okay?
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All all?
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I said a little bit to uh leave me alone
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on all different apps.
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So so you texted like two fifteen and say, oh,
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but I.
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Didn't wanna be with him. He was like, well, that's fine,
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I'll walk into your house. You're gonna be with me,
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and I would let do not walk in my house.
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I want not even gonna be there going to Austin's.
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I don't wanna be with you, soase don't make it
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any worse than.
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It has to be.
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And I blocked him when I went to Austin's.
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Why don't you give me a run down of f
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uh yesterday? You know, start yesterday, you know in the morning,
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and how I like to you don't have people do
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it is you know, it's easier to remember, like when
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you first got up in the morning, once you did,
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and just go about your day.
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M alright up until we're here right now? Oh, I
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mean I woke up, I started gleaning in the house.
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I uh, baby mamma came over, dropped the kids off.
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We talked for a little bit, and then she ended
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up leaving.
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W what's her name, uh Riody Young, Ridley Young.
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Yes, that's my baby mommy, okay, my girlfriend for three years.
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She's not just my baby MoMA. Okay.
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She came over, dropped the kids off to me cause
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she said she wanted to go to sleep cause she
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didn't feel good.
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So it was like, okay, so she dropped the kids off.
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I had my mom come pick them up from my
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house so I could proceed to go to work for
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the night.
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My mom came and got them. I got ready for work.
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I went to work and everything was klosher and probably
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come around nine thirty ten o'clock, right about right about
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the time I was gonna go on break. Uh, Riley
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messaged me and she was like, Hey, I wanna go
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over when you come on break so we can talk
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things out.
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I wanna come home, you know, I wanna work this back. Oh,
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don't wanna get I'm my family back together. I was like, okay,
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I'm gonna stop the Taco Bell give me something to
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eat cause I'm hungry. And uh, that was that. I
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got off probably.
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About two thirty one is when I clocked out, and
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from there I took the Dixie Highway back to seventy five,
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took seventy five to.
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Netto, went to the Taco Bell on Netto Road, got
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my food. Actually fell asleep sitting down waiting for my food.
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I was so tired.
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And then I went home.
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I ate my five layer Okay, Sorito got halfway through
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my proNT trap and then my front window gets smashed
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in and I see Michael standing there yelling at me
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and Riley talk home Riley, all types of names and
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what not. So, uh, who's Michael?
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Michael was my best friend for five years? Okay, so
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Michael's your best friend for five years? And then it's
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you and Riley.
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Is there anybody else there with you? Guys? As of
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right now?
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On my buddy Brian, he's there on and off just
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to helping my dogs and stuff when I'm not there, Cause,
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like I said, me and my baby mom we're.
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Going through a a a rough time in our relationship.
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What's uh, what's Brian's last name?
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Do you know?
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Yeager?
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Okay, so it's you, Riley, Brian. Window gets broken out.
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Yeah, we're Michaels. We're all sitting there. No, it's at
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my house. Yeah yeah, and we're all sitting there on
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my couch and he smashes my window out. My first
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instinc just to grab my gun, and I grabbed my gun.
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I walked outside and I begged him to leave. I
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told him I did not want to fight him. I
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told him I wasn't going to do this at my
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house because this is where my kids stay. Honest to God,
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Officer Ridley wouldn't have came over that night.
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I would have had my.
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Kids there in the living room, and he would have
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done that with my kids, and it would have been
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even worse.
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And I begged him to leave. She begged him to leave.
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Ryan begged him.
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To leave, but he would not stop. He just kept
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going and kept running his mouth and kept popping off
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at the lid.
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And then he said something along the lines of I'm
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just gonna burn the fuck trailer down with.
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You and your kids in it.
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And Ridley got mad, like any other mom wouldn't started
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chasing him down the street.
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So I started chasing her down the street. I would
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grab her, he hits her, he hits me, and next
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thing I know, he's something brown.
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What's intriguing here is how these two approach the same
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question differently. When I asked what happened yesterday, Riley zoomed
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in on the small details, almost appearing defensive, whereas Austin
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provided a larger, more comprehensive perspective on the events. Such
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contrasts between them would become more and more apparent as
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the interrogation progresses.
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Me, Austin, Brian and my dog.
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So I was sitting on the love seat with Austin
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and he was eating taco I was talking to him.
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Brian was sitting on the big couch and all of
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a sudden, out here is crash all of my front window.
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About Buston and he's.
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Like, what the are you doing here?
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Michael?
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Yeah, so it's so do you hear a crash?
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Yeah?
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I hear the window get broken? And you know, we
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all jump because who was breaking windows at two thirty
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in the morning. And he's standing nasty with yelling and screaming.
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What was he saying?
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You're gonna and talk to me or I'm gonna catch
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this house on fire? And Austin walked outside and he's
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always got his gun on his house.
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He want me if I wanna catch up here?
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So do you ever wanna go? Yes? And he says
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what were you doing here? Yes?
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And then I just ignored him.
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I like, I am not.
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Good with the drama or young ignor, so I just.
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Ignored him.
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And then he kept saying, I mean kept I don't
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know exactly what he was saying, but he kept going
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and going and going. I know a few times I
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heard him look straight to Austin and say kill me, mother,
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kill me right now.
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No, he says, well, he's still outside, and Austin and
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Brian are at the doorway of the house now, cause
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day got up when they first heard the glass.
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They stand up.
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What's so? What else does he screaming?
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If you remember any specific things that he said, he
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was saying a lot.
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Put your good down and let me beat your ass, Austin,
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I'm taking your girlfriend back.
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She's mine. She's not going anywhere. Countless times she said,
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put your going down and fight me and let me
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be your ass.
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Regardless of the nature of Riley's relationship with Michael or
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whether her feelings for him have faded, her emotional response
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seems completely out of place given the circumstances, especially since
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Michael is dead and he was her friend and love
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interest just days ago. Austin, on the other hand, appears
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to show genuine emotion for his deceased best friend.
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Get death as.
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Much as any that did not mean to do it.
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I just wanted to stop. You wouldn't stop.
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I was just trying to go home and go to
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past do I could.
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Get my kids.
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He just kept going, he kept screaming, he kept just
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he just wouldn't stop. Man, he was like a like
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the animotion. He settled cage and he was just old
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for everybody's head. It's like something inside of him switched,
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because when it first happened, he wouldn't fight me, he
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wouldn't get out the car, he wouldn't say a word
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to me. And then he comes over last night acting like, honestly,
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like he was on some type of drugs or something.
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I'm on for five years and I've never seen him
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act like that.
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And he just kept bowing and kept bowing and kept going, no,
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I'm here.
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Well, I about had a panic attack that walked in
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between Austin and Ryan. I walked outside cause I was
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getting claustrophobic, and my dog was jumping, and he was.
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Like in the open window, staring at and yelling at me.
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I was throwing something through, going to do now, I
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don't know.
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I couldn't.
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I wasn't paying attention, okay, so like I didn't even
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have time to really, I didn't even know.
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I started freaking out. I went outside. I was gonna
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walk to my mom's. My mom was true streams over
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from Austin.
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Peace for a minute. Walk.
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Yeah, so I was just gonna walk to my mom's.
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I start walking. He's walking, He's arguing with me.
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Austin's walking behind us because I keep walking and he's
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threatening me while we're walking if I.
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Don't stop, y's what you say.
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So before we get to the walking away, do you
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guys go outside at one point and talk to him
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or do you guys stay inside?
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Austin and Brian were like on the porch kind of
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with both doors, the screen door open, the big door open.
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They were like kind of half in and half outside.
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And what are they saying?
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Are they?
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They were just telling him to leave, and like, you know,
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he was like, come on, Austin, if you're really big
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and bad, just shoot me.
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He's like, dude, I'm not shooting you. Just get off
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of my property. He goes, if I wanted to shoot you,
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I would shot you when you bust out my window.
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Just leave us alone.
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Okay.
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So that's about the time that I left that I
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wanted to go.
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I was.
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Freaking off out.
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I just wanted to go to my mom's and call
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down and just not.
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Deal with any of them to die.
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So you said that.
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The window got broke, and he said, the first thing
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you did was grab your gun?
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Yes, okay, what ten guns?
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It's a block eighteen gen three okay, thirty round siegal,
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it's all in my name.
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Okay. Where was that at inside the trailer? It was
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sitting on my uh.
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Uh a little TV table right next to my couch. Okay,
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so it's sitting on a table or on your couch
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and you didn't hear your couch.
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Okay.
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Here that he's gradually gotten, you go to the door.
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What are what are Riley and uh Brian doing at
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this time?
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At this time, there's still stuck trying to figure out
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what happened because he's just standing there yelling. Okay.
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So basically I I I saw the trailer. So he's
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like yelling in through the open window. Yes, And so
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then you go to the door.
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I go to the door, and I get I tried
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to get him to leave because, like I said, it
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was three o'clock in the morning. I have neighbors who
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have kids too, man. I I didn't wanna do anything.
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I didn't wanna find him. I didn't, so h L
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let me.
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So you're standing in the doorway in your house, yes, okay,
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like just shouting through the screen. Yes, and uh, where's
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he at?
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He was down by the foot of my porch. Okay.
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So he's down on the concrete alright, and you two
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are shouting back and forth.
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Yes. He got into my face multiple times, and I
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begged him to please go. So you're you're telling him
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you need to leave? Yes, you need to leave.
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I did I Now, is the.
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Gun in your hand? Isn't your waistband?
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The gun was in my hand. I don't have my CPO,
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so I don't I don't hide it. Everybody knows that. Okay.
507
00:25:20.839 --> 00:25:23.960
So did he know that you had a gun? Yes?
508
00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:26.240
What did he say about that? He told me to
509
00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:29.000
shoot him. He told me put a bullet in his head.
510
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:31.440
I told him I didn't want to do that. I
511
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:34.799
told him, I, well, I didn't want to multiple times.
512
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:36.359
Okay.
513
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.960
And so then when he's outside, U let me take
514
00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:43.240
you back a little bit. So you said you and
515
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:47.039
Michael have been friends for five years, you're best friends?
516
00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:53.000
Yeah, okay? And so, uh, does Michael own a guns?
517
00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.440
No? No? Okay, does Brian o' a guns? No?
518
00:25:57.039 --> 00:25:59.279
Riley No? But you have three?
519
00:25:59.559 --> 00:26:02.440
Yes? Okay, you got the ruger, Yes, I have the
520
00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:06.279
ruger a a Barrigade bm R nine.
521
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:10.839
Which is AAR fifteen stype type style pistol rifle carb
522
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:12.640
and i'd have my clock nineteen.
523
00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:13.240
Okay.
524
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:22.039
Alright, So Michael shows up, he is drawn with you,
525
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:23.000
telling you to put a.
526
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:23.680
Bolt in his head.
527
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:27.079
The detective then posed one of the most crucial questions
528
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:32.119
of the case. Why why would someone shoot their best friend?
529
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:36.359
What's why y'all this anger? I mean, what's what's I
530
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:37.640
mean if you guys were friends?
531
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:42.119
He uh, okay, Well it wasn't even him. My baby
532
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:42.839
mama has.
533
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:45.720
A problem with drugs in a past with drugs, and
534
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:49.519
uh she ended up relapsing the going and sleeping with
535
00:26:49.640 --> 00:26:51.480
him and uh.
536
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.400
Like you'd say, sleep like have a sex, yeah, okay.
537
00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:57.640
And you know, I, as any guy would be, I
538
00:26:57.799 --> 00:26:58.640
was heated I was.
539
00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.559
I was beyond pitched, but I didn't take it anything
540
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.240
further than that because I have my kids and I
541
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.240
know that if I would fuck up, they wouldn't have
542
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:09.680
me in their I and the only stability that they
543
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:10.519
have in their life.
544
00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:13.519
What uh So Riley relapsed?
545
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:13.599
What?
546
00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:17.079
What drugs did she use? I I can't tell you
547
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:20.079
exactly because I don't know. I wasn't there, I wasn't around,
548
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:25.640
and she did it. So it's honestly, it's just kind
549
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.759
of hearsay. I guess, and that's shut.
550
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.000
But she came home and.
551
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.000
She was supposed to be over at her.
552
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.440
Mom's only look like two streets down from me, and
553
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.880
I guess Michael either walked or.
554
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.039
Had someone to bring him. He showed up to her,
555
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:45.880
uh at her mom's house and he didn't answer.
556
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:46.920
What was this?
557
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.400
It had to have been last night before he showed
558
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:51.759
up in my house, okay, cause there was no other
559
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:52.880
place that she would have gone.
560
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:57.880
And he only lives in Frenchtown, Villa. So I guarantee you.
561
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:01.200
He he either walked there or I got a ride there,
562
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.079
but I don't. I don't know exactly how he got there.
563
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:09.960
All I know is that I begged him to stop,
564
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.440
and I begged him to leave. I told him I
565
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.279
didn't wanna fight him. I told him I didn't want
566
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.240
any problems, told him I just wanted him to go away.
567
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.640
I don't I'm not like one of these kids out
568
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:21.599
here just flashing all their guns and shit like that.
569
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.920
I got more protection because all the shootings that happened
570
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:25.920
in downtownson Row.
571
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:28.559
I know how people in this town are. I've lived
572
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.519
in this town my entire life, and it seems like
573
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.400
everybody's just getting stupider and stupider.
574
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.160
So I got it from my own personal protection from
575
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.079
my family, because I'm not gonna go out like a
576
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:38.720
I'm not.
577
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.440
Just gonna go out like a like A. I'm sorry,
578
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.440
I'm not, but I'm not gonna let my family, my
579
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:47.559
family's life being Jeffary, OK. Somebody else has a gun,
580
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:50.960
and I don't you know, I wasn't pointing the gun
581
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.839
in his face. I wasn't waving it out of making
582
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:54.839
it known that I had it.
583
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.759
I walked outside with it and I asked him to leave,
584
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.279
and that was it. And he kept going and he
585
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.960
kept going and he kept going. I wasn't sitting here saying, oh,
586
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.079
you know you and dah da da da dadada.
587
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.759
I wasn't. I was asking him to leave my premises.
588
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.559
I was asking him to drop the situation and me.
589
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:12.359
And he would not.
590
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.799
But at some point he does leave. Yes, So he
591
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.440
walked off, and then Riley chased after him.
592
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.160
Why is she chasing an outcown because he said he
593
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:26.119
was gonna burn down.
594
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.519
The trailer with my kids in it. Okay, did you
595
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:29.039
call nine?
596
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:29.319
Mong?
597
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:32.599
I ad right after I did it? Yeah, okay, right
598
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:35.839
after I id that was my first reaction do to I.
599
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.279
Pulled the trigger and I grabbed my phone and I
600
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:40.359
called nine and wanted nobody answered.
601
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:41.599
So I called my mom and I told her that
602
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:42.160
I'm sorry.
603
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.400
And then the picker cop who was across the street
604
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:47.359
was the first one there. I put my clock on
605
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:48.200
my porch.
606
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.000
If I walked to him with my hands up when
607
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:50.599
I got down on.
608
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.680
The ground, and I could find as a plan.
609
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.920
As I could, because I I'm not trying to go
610
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.039
to jail, and I'm tryna go home with my kids.
611
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:03.200
I really am, so.
612
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:12.720
Taylor er Uh, I'm sorry. Her name's loved me righty Ry.
613
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.119
I'm saying thank you, thank you, so Riley ends up
614
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.160
chasing after him.
615
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:23.920
Does she have anything? I I did she have a gun?
616
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:24.319
No.
617
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.240
I don't let anybody touch my stuff. Okay, like I am,
618
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.119
I am so anal about my guns because you know,
619
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:34.440
anything can happen. Guns are not toys. Accidents can happen,
620
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:36.839
Guns can go off. My glock doesn't have a safety
621
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.440
and I have kids, So, like I, I take care
622
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.039
of my stuff. I keep it put up, I keep
623
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:43.240
it safe where it needs to be.
624
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.519
When I'm not using it, it's put up. And you
625
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.799
know it's it's put up. Well, uh, you know, they
626
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.920
they don't accidentally go off. There is a you know,
627
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:53.559
be some sort of yeah.
628
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:55.799
Manipulation of the firearm to make it go off.
629
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.000
I just know that accidents do happen. So I tried
630
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.160
my best to prove that.
631
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.960
That from happening by keeping them put up and and
632
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.640
not ala pointing them at anybody right yet, I mean,
633
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.920
cause you don't want an accident that happen. Yeah, No,
634
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.200
I don't like And that's and that's the number one
635
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:14.480
rule of gun safety. You know, always keep a gun
636
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:14.839
point in.
637
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:16.920
That safe direction. If you see the inside of my
638
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.119
house and it looks like I own a daycare. I'm
639
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.839
not I'm not a killer.
640
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.359
I'm not not buying an I'm a family man, and
641
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:26.920
I got two babies that I don't wanna watch grow up.
642
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.119
So I got to walk and Michael follows me, so
643
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.279
wa he busts it out the win.
644
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.200
He's saying, put your gun down and fight me.
645
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.839
Put your gun down and fight me. Just fucking shoot me,
646
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:44.319
kill me. Put a bullet in me. Already. I've been
647
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:46.079
waiting my whole life to die.
648
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:55.920
Just repeatedly, and that's when that's what I want. First
649
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.119
clustered out my window, so that's.
650
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.480
When I was like, Okay, I go.
651
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.400
Yeah, just go to your mom. So as I'm walking,
652
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.200
he saw me. He's trying to grab it my footy.
653
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:10.319
I'm trying to pull away from him. Well, once we get.
654
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.960
To the essence, he grabbed it my honey hines turned
655
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.960
around and I screamed, let.
656
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.559
Me the god.
657
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.519
Once he grabbed my hoody twice, like once while I
658
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:25.839
was walking, and I just like jerked away from him
659
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:26.359
and Tad.
660
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.319
Walk in and then he did it again.
661
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.839
We can take a moment here to categorize different kinds
662
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.119
of manipulators based on their approach and intelligence. The first
663
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:42.319
kind is linked to narcissistic personality disorder NPD, which is
664
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:46.880
a catch all for manipulative behaviors, especially in situation smart
665
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.720
category who used charm or control tactics to meet their
666
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:57.000
own needs. The next one is psychopathy or sociopathy. These
667
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:02.160
individuals may manipulate others without empathy or remorse, often exploiting
668
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:08.079
weaknesses for personal gain. The last is dependent personality disorder
669
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:13.160
a DPD. These individuals may manipulate others to maintain dependence
670
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:18.400
or avoid rejection, particularly invulnerable or weaker targets, but they
671
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:22.200
might not function properly in the presence of higher authority.
672
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.279
So I turned around and screened at him, like he
673
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:28.720
went to swing whereat Oh, it's right up at the
674
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.079
entrance area.
675
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.240
At the enterance the lead great idea.
676
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.839
Okay, like right over a car. We actually like kind
677
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.200
of almost fell over that car that little bit.
678
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:41.799
I don't even know what kind of car.
679
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:43.599
It was the color of book buy.
680
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:44.440
Oh it was a car.
681
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.000
Yeah, we kind of almost fell over the car. And
682
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.119
he would just sling on me and I moved any
683
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.599
like merely just his hand kind of just like grazed
684
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:59.759
my neck. He swung on me Austin grabbed him and
685
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:00.720
he hit Austin.
686
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.839
And when he hit Austin, I did you get hit?
687
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.119
I kinda not really, his hand just kind of like
688
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.000
not like this. It didn't hurt me, but it sure
689
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.199
enough did scare me because he swung on me and
690
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.000
his hand did like it hit. It's not as hard
691
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:19.880
as he wanted it to.
692
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.280
He grazed up. Yeah, swung a mess her up. Yeah.
693
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.840
So Austin grabs him when he saw him hit me,
694
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.320
and he hit Austin in the mouth.
695
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:35.559
When he hit Austin in the mouth, I turned my head.
696
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.079
Away when Austin grabbed him.
697
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.159
Austin grabbed him off of me, and then he hit
698
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:42.519
Austin in the face.
699
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:45.800
And then I turned my head and then out I
700
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:46.719
KOs and kind of.
701
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.119
Heard the gunshot that. I ran back to his house
702
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.599
and told Brian to call by him on.
703
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:58.360
One off, screaming, okay, did you see the shooting happened?
704
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:04.599
I was just like I didn't necessarily see it because
705
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:08.840
as when I saw him hid Boston, I fucking turned away.
706
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.239
So I was like, I I know he has his
707
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.440
gun on him. I know he always keeps it on him.
708
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:15.719
That's what it's there.
709
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:22.840
For I'm not a fan of uh, any of that.
710
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.280
I don't like. No, no, I don't like violence.
711
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.519
You know, I'm okay with the gun in the house.
712
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.880
It's okay. You ever to protect me and the family.
713
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.199
I get that's what you were doing, was protecting me
714
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:36.920
and yourself.
715
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:37.519
But I.
716
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.079
I'm okay. So that matters to me is that I'm okay.
717
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.119
My family's okay, my friend's okay.
718
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.840
You can see the oddness, right, Someone's life is gone,
719
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.559
and it's not a random stranger. It's a best friend.
720
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:03.039
But I had there's an even stranger story, right, So Riley's.
721
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:10.840
Chasing after him down the street. Then you go after Riley.
722
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:15.239
Is there some sort of interaction down there? What what transpires?
723
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.280
All I know is I went to go grab her
724
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:22.320
and then he started swinging. That's all I know. Okay,
725
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:23.599
was was she?
726
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:25.480
Was she trying to assault him?
727
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:26.880
I don't know.
728
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.559
Riley has a temper and likes to do that type
729
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.920
of stuff. That's why I went down there to grab
730
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.239
her to stop that from happening. As soon as my
731
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.199
hands touched her, he started swinging.
732
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:42.159
Okay. There there wasn't any hesitation, There.
733
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.880
Wasn't any second guess as soon as I grabbed her,
734
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:46.880
he hit her, and then he hit me.
735
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:51.719
Okay, so h he hit you? What I mean, you
736
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.000
guys are s I guess staying at close close?
737
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:54.960
Yeah, like we were.
738
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.119
We were probably about this far away.
739
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:57.360
From each other.
740
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.679
I went to go grab Riley. I turned my head.
741
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.079
She says, oh, And then the next thing I know,
742
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.960
I can't feel in face. Dude, okay, like he he
743
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.360
literally shocked me as hard as he could in the face.
744
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.400
I was seeing stars, officer.
745
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:16.960
Okay, like it. I so he he punches you in
746
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:17.320
the face.
747
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:19.639
Yes, he hit me first, he broke through my window.
748
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.960
He assaulted me. So he hits you in the face.
749
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.480
And then at this point, you said, did you had
750
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:28.280
the gun in your hand?
751
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.840
Yes? And what do you do from there?
752
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.320
Austin's next move is peculiar. It's crucial to remember that
753
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:40.039
as far as Austin and Riley know Michael is in
754
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.760
the hospital being treated for his injuries, they are unaware
755
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.199
that he is actually dead, or at least they haven't
756
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.480
received confirmation from the detectives.
757
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.480
A true he he struck you once in the face
758
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:56.239
with his fist. Yeah, he hit me. I stumbled back
759
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.719
and gained my consciousness as much as I could. Did
760
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:00.639
he say anything?
761
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.719
No, he didn't.
762
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.840
The it wasn't him, it was it was something else,
763
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:07.800
and he wasn't.
764
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.760
I've known him for five years. I've never seen him
765
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:12.079
like that.
766
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.559
Man. It scared me.
767
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.199
I'm not gonna lie. I was scared for my life, dude,
768
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:18.880
cause he wouldn't stop.
769
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:20.599
Okay.
770
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:27.159
So as when you when you go down there, alright,
771
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:28.719
you're trying to break him in Riley up.
772
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.360
Yes, I was trying to de escalate the situation as
773
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:32.480
much as I could, okay.
774
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.159
And so then he sacks she once. Uh.
775
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.960
So he seemed like a a gentleman who's been, you know,
776
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:43.519
around the block a little bit. A have you ever
777
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.480
been in trouble before? I mean, been in minor little
778
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.920
scrapes before. I've been in fights, but nothing like this. No,
779
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.960
this was this is something completely different.
780
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:53.280
Yeah.
781
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:59.639
And and so you know I in in those previous fights,
782
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.800
I wasn't scared for my life, Officer.
783
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.679
I wasn't scared for me and somebody else's well being
784
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.639
at the time when I was in school.
785
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:10.559
Those were just school fights.
786
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.559
I was legitimately scared for me in Riley's life because
787
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.239
he looked like he was ready to kill.
788
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.960
Both of us. Okay, now, I from gathering statements from people,
789
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:24.639
I understand that. You know, I've heard that Riley and
790
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.760
him had a a sexual relationship, r a a sexual
791
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:29.039
relationship recently, and.
792
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.239
That kind of put a rift between you and him
793
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:35.639
and you and Riley. Yes, but I wasn't taking it any.
794
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.360
Farther than that, Okay, I was worried about I mean,
795
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.000
it's I I and you know I. I'm trying to
796
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:41.519
get like the.
797
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.400
Whole story here, Austin I, and I hope you understand
798
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:49.039
that I do. So you know what I know?
799
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.360
You know, uh, a lot of people your age or
800
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.719
on social media and stuff like that. Did he make
801
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.480
any threats beforehand that you know, I'm gonna beat your mask,
802
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:02.679
i'm'a show up at your house?
803
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.800
Well, anything like that. D When was the last time
804
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:11.960
you communicated with him prior to the day everything happened.
805
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.719
I told him that since he didn't wanna.
806
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:18.559
Fight me, all of his new girlfriend shit was outside
807
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.400
my house, he could come pick it up and you
808
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:22.599
could never speak to me again.
809
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:24.719
And that was the last thing I said to him.
810
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:25.880
And so when when was that?
811
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:31.719
That was about two weeks ago. Okay, he said he
812
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.360
didn't wanna fight you. No, he was sitting in uh
813
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.320
Riley's car. He wouldn't get out of her car. He
814
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:39.280
wouldn't do anything.
815
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:40.400
He just sat there.
816
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.000
And I mean this is right after the fact that
817
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.760
you that I found out she was sleeping with him.
818
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:46.840
Yes, okay, So I.
819
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:48.920
Mean at that point two weeks ago, you basically called
820
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:50.760
him out and say, hey, let's let's do this.
821
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.719
If you're mad enough to screw somebody who called her that,
822
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:56.159
y screw somebody's girlfriend, you call your brother, you should
823
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:56.719
be mad enough to.
824
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:58.719
Throw the ones. Uh. I've been raised like that my
825
00:40:58.920 --> 00:40:59.440
entire life.
826
00:40:59.519 --> 00:40:59.679
Man.
827
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.119
And that was the last time you saw Yeah, that was.
828
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:04.159
The last time I saw him.
829
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:04.800
That was the last name.
830
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:05.119
There was no.
831
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:09.719
Communication between sir. What about between him and Riley Dad?
832
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.239
Yeah, they talked all the time for from what I know,
833
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:18.760
they were together. But as of last night, she told
834
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.360
me she was done with him. She told me she
835
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.159
blocked him on everything. And uh, what's everything?
836
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:26.880
I mean that there's so many social media platforms out there,
837
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:29.880
either Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, TikTok.
838
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.119
I don't know, man, she has some things on her phone.
839
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.039
It's retarded, you might be able to point out where
840
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.119
the problem lies. It's all about Riley.
841
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.440
I'm very harbor him. I don't even know if he's
842
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.480
dead or not right.
843
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.079
And I've kind of a lot of I tryed to
844
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:49.920
sleep in here like four different.
845
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:50.679
Times, and I just can't.
846
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:56.880
Yeah, how she went to put out as ports in.
847
00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:00.599
The house and right called.
848
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.760
Nine one one. I think he called nine one one,
849
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.719
and then we die have a little walk ty walk.
850
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.800
Put him from the house down where the cops were,
851
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:11.599
because he wanted to make sure that he put his
852
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.760
gown link up and on the porch before.
853
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:18.920
The cops out there. Cause you see a lot of stories.
854
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:21.559
He freaks out.
855
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:23.519
How was his best friends?
856
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:24.840
Oh?
857
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.000
Are they close right now?
858
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:26.480
Where are they?
859
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:28.880
Obviously tell the relationship they.
860
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.920
They were literally best friends happened for years and I
861
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.679
kind of I guess I've that up.
862
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.199
Hm, But it's kind of like all didn't that fell
863
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:45.599
to another I just wanted my family back. Yeah, but
864
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:46.840
they still aid at each other.
865
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.639
It's hard and it was never gonna get sex. Yeah,
866
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:51.639
And then he knew.
867
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:56.400
I told him, don't don't show up here, don't don't
868
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.119
cause about your lot necessary drum.
869
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.599
Sure, calling Riley the mastermind who manipulated two grown men
870
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:08.360
into turning on each other might be an exaggeration. She does, however,
871
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.679
show classic signs of being a manipulator and a narcissist.
872
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.440
But our judgment of her isn't just based on context.
873
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.119
It's the whole package. No remorse, relaxed body language, no
874
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.280
surprise at constant lying.
875
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:25.639
Do you think you would have been able to get
876
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.360
White to leave? Call them Donald at her? I mean,
877
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:31.880
and they're talking to him word?
878
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:33.840
Do you think.
879
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.679
Like he didn't even say anything before he broke the window,
880
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.800
Like he just smashed the window and started screaming.
881
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:46.559
I don't know how to be around it like that.
882
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.559
I was yelled at by my dad when I was
883
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.519
younger all the time, and I cannot handle yelling you
884
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:53.360
how many terms?
885
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:54.400
Did like hit often?
886
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:56.559
I think he only hit them long?
887
00:43:56.920 --> 00:44:00.280
Did an actor redated each other's faces and yell they.
888
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.679
Had actually he had lost his mouth?
889
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:03.599
Was all righty oh?
890
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:05.800
He definitely hit him right in the mouth. I watched that,
891
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.239
but also as he hit him out anyways, I didn't.
892
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.000
Want to see what happened before. Did often a fighter
893
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.280
Flanke fighter or Michael?
894
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:20.440
Yeah?
895
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.239
Now, let's ask the next crucial question. Could this situation
896
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.559
have been handled differently? Was there anything that could have
897
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:33.679
prevented the death?
898
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.199
And you didn't communicate with him a text message, phone call,
899
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.840
anything along those lines, sir, I got it ties because
900
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:42.199
my family was more important.
901
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.920
I wasn't gonna sit here and worked myself up to
902
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:48.760
two weeks ago. I mean roundabout when when was it?
903
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:50.480
I mean you said it was was.
904
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.079
It amazing time? Did the police get called or anything
905
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:55.519
like that? I mean for disturbance or now?
906
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.440
The police didn't be called. Me and me and me
907
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.000
and Rabby fight a lot. We've both been through a
908
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:02.079
lot of stuff in our lives.
909
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.079
We were more really hard headed, so like when we
910
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.760
butt heads, we butt heads, but we've always come back
911
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:11.559
together harder and stronger than than we did before. So
912
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.639
my neighbors don't really call the cops. And then her
913
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:18.079
mom was there and my kids were there, and you know,
914
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:20.320
there was just my mom was there. There was a
915
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:21.280
lot of people there.
916
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:25.280
MM just trying to de escalate the situation because everything
917
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.280
was crazy. She was trying to get her shit. I
918
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:33.800
was throwing her shit. It was it was all wild, alright.
919
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:35.920
When you guys have been friends. You said five years.
920
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.000
He was the first one to.
921
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:38.599
Hold my daughter.
922
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:39.440
Yeah.
923
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:45.000
We uh we lived under the same roommate Frenchtown villa.
924
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:48.320
He uh.
925
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:49.800
He did the roof in her roommates.
926
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:51.320
I was yeah.
927
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.760
And after I moved out, I got my own place,
928
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.880
and you know what I mean. And we were friends. Oh.
929
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:03.960
I loved him like a brother man. I fed him,
930
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:09.360
clothed him, got him a job. Anytime he needed anything,
931
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:10.920
I let him do it. And he needed to come
932
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:12.719
over to my house take a shower, I let him
933
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:12.920
do it.
934
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.519
He needn't tell him my clothes to wear. I'd let
935
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.000
him wear 'em. I got nothing for love, nothing but
936
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.199
love for him. That's why I was trying to de
937
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:23.480
escalate the situation.
938
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.519
And now you said, Riley's a little hot headed, Yes,
939
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:35.159
and and so was she not trying to de escalate
940
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.199
the situation, You.
941
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:37.960
Know I was.
942
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:40.480
I was just trying to get her to go home.
943
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:44.760
But you know how mom gets when somebody threatens their kids,
944
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.719
They're gonna do what they can to protect 'em.
945
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.719
I was just trying to grab her away, and then
946
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:51.599
I touched her and the next thing I know, I'm
947
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:52.320
seeing stars.
948
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.000
Remember in the beginning when Austin mentioned that Riley got
949
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.920
riled up after Michael threatened to burn down the house
950
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.840
with the kids inside. Oddly, throughout this recap, Riley never
951
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:09.280
once brings up that reason. Clearly it wasn't as significant
952
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:13.239
as it was made out to be. On the surface,
953
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.960
it seems like Riley was either using Michael to get
954
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:19.320
back at Austin or using Austin to deal with Michael.
955
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:23.880
But let's not forget Austin isn't just an innocent bystander
956
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:24.280
and all this.
957
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.079
And I'm just curious that in your I came about
958
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:36.440
your opinion here, take all the relationships and the all
959
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:41.960
of that. Does this Do you think that being shocked
960
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.760
in this situation as was the appropriate action.
961
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:47.119
To handle her?
962
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:50.440
Yeah?
963
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.400
Maybe not in the face, but yeah.
964
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.800
Well why an okay, guys all happy?
965
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.800
I don't want guys, but that was was m Michael r.
966
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.440
Did he carry a knife normally or done on him? Yeah?
967
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:11.039
It does carry knives. Not Actually, he has scared the
968
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:12.880
shit out of the other his knives and I took
969
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:14.239
him with his knives and threw.
970
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:15.920
It away because he was scared over that.
971
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.039
He harry his knives. Used to carry a pair.
972
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.920
Of knuckles, but he hadn't have angels.
973
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:23.840
I don't know.
974
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:26.280
I wouldn't pay attention, but.
975
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.400
Yu, there was no clear I mean no not I
976
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.400
mean he said he was. He punched them, so there
977
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.079
was nothing in his hands, nothing howl.
978
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:39.360
So I watched some of the videos. It shows a
979
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.000
little bit different picture of what happened.
980
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:46.920
I want you to.
981
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.239
I want you to think back. Take a second and
982
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.440
think back, because what the accounts of what happened are
983
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.199
different than what you're telephoning.
984
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:02.079
And and right now there's our one chance to talk
985
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.480
about this and get this all figured out and right
986
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:09.880
now and your benefit being honest and cooperative, no matter, Yeah,
987
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.599
it is the only thing in your favor right now.
988
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:14.280
Was telling me the truth about what happened.
989
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.599
Don't don't even think about Austin, and don't even think
990
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:17.920
about Michael right now, think.
991
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:21.440
About you little did the detective. No, Riley had been
992
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.880
looking out for herself this entire time.
993
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:25.599
And if something, if something was going out with you
994
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.199
and Michael before where you guys are arguing, whatever doesn't
995
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:30.679
involve the shooting part.
996
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:31.679
I just need to know what happened.
997
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.000
I'm until that because everything's not completely met.
998
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.800
Ching up there to hit on to the bong, and
999
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:38.119
I asked, what.
1000
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:42.000
While we're up at the front and grabbed me.
1001
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.960
I went to you tell me dad, because I hit him.
1002
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.119
So I mean, if I would have connected with him,
1003
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.679
I want to said something. But I didn't hit him.
1004
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.159
It hits the brown so you're taking your bot hit
1005
00:49:54.239 --> 00:50:00.480
the Bolla's just that's big.
1006
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:02.480
It was in my hand when I walked out. I'm
1007
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:05.320
walking and he's going and I was mad, and he
1008
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:06.679
was yelling and he said he was.
1009
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.960
Gonna burn my kids his house down, cause in my hands, y'all.
1010
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.039
And I was through it and I didn't get did
1011
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:14.239
you throw it or just try to?
1012
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:15.079
I liked with it.
1013
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.039
One time I went to hit him and I like
1014
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.880
stopped myself and put put it back down when he
1015
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:22.480
got walking.
1016
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.199
Now I want to hit him again, don't I put.
1017
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:24.519
It back down.
1018
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:27.679
And then like the last time I went to and
1019
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:32.119
I just kind of like tossed it cause I not violent.
1020
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.000
No, I don't think it so wrong.
1021
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.159
Not a violent person. I never husband. I don't like vine.
1022
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.880
But so bed was did they have the right when
1023
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:44.039
you exided when you got went outside or w did
1024
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:44.599
you guys walk?
1025
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.079
He walk in. He said he was gonna burn like
1026
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:48.360
his house down, And that.
1027
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:56.000
Hit a whole another level of madness, Cause, yeah, you
1028
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:58.760
can break the windows and you can tell me anything
1029
00:50:58.840 --> 00:50:59.599
you want about me.
1030
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:03.800
You don't bring a bring, but I've run your home
1031
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:04.400
in a two year old.
1032
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:05.239
They didn't do anything.
1033
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.280
Don't tell me you're gonna bring my house with them.
1034
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:09.760
And I cause that's where I.
1035
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:15.320
Lost it for a few minutes, and I just fucking
1036
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.280
did did you just h try.
1037
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.679
To row I break somewhere?
1038
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:21.920
I did.
1039
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:22.679
I didn't own it.
1040
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:26.079
That's worked like the first time. I went like, that's
1041
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.719
not like n I brought it back down and held
1042
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:31.280
it with me. Yeah, and I got yelling and screaming,
1043
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:32.480
and I did it again and all.
1044
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.440
No, not like that, I'm gonna do that. What was
1045
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:37.280
it yelling at? Screaming?
1046
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:42.880
You're coming home with me, You're mine, You're always gonna
1047
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.639
be my girlfriend, this, this, and this.
1048
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.039
If you're not coming home with me, I'm gonna kill Austin.
1049
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.480
I'll burn your house down. Here A lot no toys
1050
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:56.480
about to come back to me. So I went to
1051
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:59.639
grab it again, like I went to swing it, and
1052
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.840
I got like rake your bid and I just dropped
1053
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:03.000
it in my head.
1054
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:05.440
I just dropped it.
1055
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.000
I think it broke okay, cause I I heard it.
1056
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.280
And then that's when he went to swing.
1057
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.440
On me and like, yeah, so one day you guys
1058
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:16.079
were walking and then a second time.
1059
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:20.840
Yeah, okay, but I never hit him. That did him?
1060
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:24.239
Make sure I never hit I wanted to scare him. Yeah,
1061
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:25.199
I wanted him to leave.
1062
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:28.920
I didn't have him.
1063
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:38.119
I wanted to. I really wanted to. I'm not gonna
1064
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:41.119
lie on everything inside of me. I wanted to and couldn't.
1065
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.960
I tried to, and I couldn't bring myself to do it.
1066
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.519
So not to me, Parson, What were your positions when
1067
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:49.719
you got towards the entrance? Where were you guys standing?
1068
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:50.159
Where was he?
1069
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:50.800
Where were you?
1070
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.119
It's interesting that they're talking about Riley chasing Michael, but
1071
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:59.039
in the entire thirty minute interrogation so far, she hasn't
1072
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.960
once brought it up, and yet she claims she's not
1073
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.079
a mean person at first, after.
1074
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.159
Like his man hit me, I did like throw him
1075
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.000
over a little bit, just to we did.
1076
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:12.800
That's when I said, we did like go over the
1077
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:13.719
car a little bit.
1078
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.760
Yeah, because I throw the little star get off of me. Yeah,
1079
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:19.679
and we like went over to the car a little bit.
1080
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.679
I slapped him, not Art on the shoulder, okay, and
1081
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.000
then that's with him and Austin did the.
1082
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:28.800
Thing.
1083
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:49.760
I didn't get a motor. That's normal. So the videos
1084
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:53.039
still not necessarily as did.
1085
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.039
That's that's all I remember.
1086
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:57.679
I'll be honest with you.
1087
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.719
That's what I'm telling you. Completely own her person that.
1088
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:08.320
Yeah, the video shows you Michael walking away from the house,
1089
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.599
You kind of following him, and he's kind of backing
1090
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:14.960
up from you as you're swinging the bomb at him.
1091
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:18.760
Then he takes off running. You take off following him.
1092
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:24.840
Okay, in this exact moment, she realizes her secret was
1093
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:25.880
caught on camera.
1094
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:35.480
Would you guys get over the video continue? Okay, you
1095
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:39.360
guys get up against the car. If you're swinging on
1096
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:44.639
him quite a bit. I don't remember not him swinging
1097
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:45.679
on you at all.
1098
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:49.800
I don't know that, not him grabbing you nothing.
1099
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.960
I do remember him grabbing you, though, Okay, I do
1100
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:54.840
know when.
1101
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:55.719
I get that way.
1102
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:57.760
I mean because your arms are like.
1103
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.760
At him, right, Yeah, that's that when he grabs you.
1104
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:05.880
Yeah, okay, I don't have a black how Yeah, so
1105
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:06.719
why when.
1106
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.039
My kids are here? Is why want I black?
1107
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:09.719
How Yeah?
1108
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:13.679
And I it's totally natural, don't mean in there a
1109
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:14.719
lot of questions right now.
1110
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:19.039
Here's where you need to worry about you and your kids.
1111
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:20.599
I can Michael's death.
1112
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.719
Oh, I guess.
1113
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:35.199
That's why we need to take him in and and
1114
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:36.719
and really think about this.
1115
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:49.239
And right now, like I said, I I wanna we'll
1116
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:50.800
go over this again. I'll give you a second to
1117
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:52.880
think about it in process. I know I just told
1118
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:54.679
you a lot, and that's why I wanna know. I
1119
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:57.079
I really need to know the the truth about everything
1120
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.760
that was said, everything that happened, because if this could
1121
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:04.639
have an argument between you would wife all that went
1122
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.119
too far went off the team over that. Yeah, you
1123
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.960
were even even if you were just touching her head
1124
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:13.639
at him that I can understand that that happens, but
1125
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.440
I don't the way it looks on the video with
1126
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:18.559
what you're telling me is not the same thing, which
1127
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:19.719
makes it look like you're lying.
1128
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.519
I'm not trying to Oh I don't.
1129
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:23.559
I mean, I'm find the taint.
1130
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:32.880
But I's why you know you're completely soberly.
1131
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:39.480
There was a gun involved, and even if death seemed unlikely,
1132
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:42.760
there should have been at least some concern for seriously
1133
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:46.320
injuring someone close to her, like in many cases, her
1134
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.760
tears could be more for herself, mourning the luxury and
1135
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:54.280
freedom she's about to lose. This is Riley's reality. Now,
1136
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:56.920
let's take a look at Austin's reaction.
1137
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:02.519
Just got back from over there, and they were, uh,
1138
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:06.800
you were collected, you know, different evidence of videos and
1139
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:10.079
stuff like that, and so but uh, coming back a
1140
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:10.519
little bit.
1141
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:15.360
The phone that you had on you, Uh, you called
1142
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:18.599
nine one one on you, okay, and did it dial?
1143
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:20.239
I'd pretty sure it did.
1144
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:24.119
You my home works, okay, Okay, can I get the
1145
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:25.840
pass code of that so that I can verify the
1146
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.519
nine one one call if you don't like some of
1147
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:33.440
my pat uh partners. Just got back and there's video
1148
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:37.239
surveillance at the few of those.
1149
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:43.239
Trailers right along that partway. Were you aware of that? Okay?
1150
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:48.760
Specifically there's one, uh video surveillance system right in front
1151
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.079
where you guys were at, and your neighbor also has
1152
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:52.960
videos for balance.
1153
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:59.679
Alright, This is the exact moment Austin realizes he's been
1154
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:04.440
caught on camera. No less. Up till now, he had
1155
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:08.119
no idea that his actions were being recorded. At this point,
1156
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:11.920
any attempt to modify or alter his story would be futile,
1157
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:17.119
as the footage presents undeniable evidence. Lying now would only
1158
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:18.079
make matters worse.
1159
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.119
So I'm watching the video surveillance, some of its video
1160
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:28.199
surveillance has audio whether it to okay, and you know,
1161
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.039
I'm watching this video surveillance, and and the things that
1162
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:33.679
you're telling me. A lot of it adds up, right,
1163
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.280
But there are a few things that aren't okay.
1164
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:49.519
Like Michael was leaving, leaving I didn't know he was.
1165
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.639
Michael was walking away. He was walking in the direction
1166
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:56.000
of Braddy's mom's house where he was. So he's he's
1167
00:58:56.159 --> 00:59:05.639
walking away and passes that yah, and Riley chases him down. Okay, right,
1168
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:09.800
So Riley's chasing him down, and she starts swinging on
1169
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:15.000
him something fierce, and she's she's going.
1170
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.079
To town, alright.
1171
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:20.039
And at this point, I see you coming up, okay,
1172
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.840
got the gun in your hand, alright. But he's backed
1173
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.760
up against the car. He can't go anywhere.
1174
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:28.440
He was in the middle of the street, Officer I.
1175
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:30.960
At at that point, or at a little bit of
1176
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:31.559
layer point.
1177
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.400
But he's backing up alright.
1178
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:40.559
And then alright, you know, she breaks away a little
1179
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.719
bit and you come toe to toe with him, and
1180
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:47.679
you guys are in in the middle of the street,
1181
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:49.400
not by the car, in the middle of the street.
1182
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:54.239
You guys are toe to toe, almost like chest bumping.
1183
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:57.960
I was just squawking at each other. Yeah, we were
1184
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.000
yelling at each other. But I wasn't getting in his face.
1185
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.440
I was trying to get righty to.
1186
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:02.880
Leave him a woman him go home.
1187
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:06.480
Then, and I I'm I'm going off of I know
1188
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.360
you you know what I'm saying, and I'm I'm interpreting.
1189
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:12.639
And like I said, you know, a lot of the
1190
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.519
stuff you're telling me adds up. But when I see
1191
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:17.599
stuff like that, it it's I have to interpret it
1192
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:21.679
in a different way. And so I mean, you guys
1193
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:26.119
come toe to toe and you're squawking each other, alright,
1194
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:33.000
and you know, he takes a pop at you, alright,
1195
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:38.679
and then raise the gun up boh, right in the
1196
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:39.519
he right in the face.
1197
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:44.000
Alright.
1198
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:48.239
And see here here's what I'm thinking. Just you know, uh,
1199
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.320
watching that video, Austin. Okay, here here's the thing alright.
1200
01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:01.960
At at at that point, okay, why did you decide.
1201
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:08.519
To use your firearm just didn't register at the time.
1202
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:13.440
I was scared and I acted. I mean because you
1203
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:16.400
you've told me that you've been in fights before, okay,
1204
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.159
A and and and here's the thing. We've all been
1205
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:24.360
in fights before, okay that you know, Detective Blair, myself, you,
1206
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.000
we've all been in f fist.
1207
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:27.519
Fights before, alright.
1208
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:33.960
But at this point, right, you know, it rose to
1209
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.039
a level of you, you where you introduced a firearm
1210
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:42.679
to you know, uh, a basic fight, I know. And
1211
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:46.079
and let me and h and hear me out because
1212
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:48.559
I I I've seen this quite a bit. I've sat
1213
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:50.519
down with quite a few people, you know, been in
1214
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.840
your situation. I talked to him, alright, and I know
1215
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:56.239
that there are good people out there, and you seem
1216
01:01:56.320 --> 01:02:01.079
like a good family man. It's just what I, oh, kid,
1217
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:05.519
And I think if at that point there was a
1218
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:11.960
level that had risen up in you, okay, that you
1219
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:16.559
just wanted this to stop. You just you know what, Michael,
1220
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:21.079
you know what, he had sex with your your your girlfriend,
1221
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:27.760
and you just wanted him to stop and be out
1222
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:37.760
of your life. But when you raise a gun up,
1223
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:46.320
you said, you know gun safety, right, yeah, dude, And
1224
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:50.119
so you can agree with me that I mean by
1225
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:54.079
by you in Radley chasing down the street after him
1226
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:59.360
as he's trying to flee. All right, that's there's that's right.
1227
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.480
At that point, there's no threat to you or Riley
1228
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:06.840
or your family or your home. There's no threat at
1229
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:12.760
that point. There's no immediate ineminent threat there. And so
1230
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:15.159
there's only one thing that I can think of is
1231
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:19.199
that it's just in you. You've been dealing with this
1232
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:24.199
asshole for two weeks, all right, he's slept with your wife,
1233
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:28.039
and now he's coming back around to you know, bother
1234
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:32.159
you and your wife. It just wanted to be listen,
1235
01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:38.639
be done with it, all right. It's just something in
1236
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:46.480
that momentary one second, because afterwards you stand over him,
1237
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:55.079
look at him several seconds, did you say anything?
1238
01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.960
I didn't know what to do, and then you slowly
1239
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:00.800
walk away.
1240
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:06.840
To call nine one one. Well, Austin's initial story was
1241
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:10.960
riddled with inconsistencies. At least he's now facing the truth.
1242
01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:12.760
Unlike his partner Riley.
1243
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.079
My biggest concern is I don't want this looking like
1244
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:18.440
you're covering something up a murder.
1245
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:21.440
I'm I'm gonna gonna need to really take a second,
1246
01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:26.079
think about what happened, and be completely honest with me,
1247
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:29.519
because everything I'm asking you I already pretty much had
1248
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:30.079
the answers to.
1249
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:32.880
I just need to hear your accounts of it.
1250
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.519
He's screaming and yelling, and then he's screaming and yelling
1251
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:42.920
at Boston, telling Austin to shoot him, Austin to shoot him,
1252
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:43.519
to kill him.
1253
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:45.440
Not a few times he said, want to go down
1254
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.559
and just find me, come get these ones?
1255
01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:55.039
What does that mean? From these walks ones? Oh yeah, okay,
1256
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:02.320
yelling that. He came back to the window and started
1257
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:05.159
yelling at me some more. And that's when I walked outside.
1258
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:09.280
I think when I walked outside, it is when he
1259
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:13.519
started walking away. And at that time, my boss just
1260
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:15.000
going to my mom's.
1261
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:17.400
I just I just wanted to go out and.
1262
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:18.199
To go with my mom.
1263
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:21.280
And didn't he realized that first. He was going that
1264
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.559
late until he started yelling at me. And he's yelling
1265
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:25.400
about learning.
1266
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:26.840
The house down with the kids and.
1267
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.239
Yelling at don't even know while I remember something. He
1268
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:32.480
was gonna burn my get.
1269
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:36.880
This out stone. When I saw him at him, I
1270
01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:39.920
stopped myself from handing. You might have learned to love
1271
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:43.320
him and they have. I have loved him as a boyfriend,
1272
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.519
especially herself did love me as my best.
1273
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:55.239
Friend cause I didn't had him with it, so how
1274
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:55.920
that we I.
1275
01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:57.079
You remember letting it go.
1276
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:01.960
Because it at almost hit him and I was scared,
1277
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:04.280
you know, So I let him go and I dropped
1278
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:08.679
the rope. And I think after that, like after I
1279
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:11.639
did that, my hands kept going after I dropped.
1280
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.400
It, and I think I hit not an accident.
1281
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:20.599
I don't uh hundred percent sure is everything bought me.
1282
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:26.960
And it felt like he hit me, so I hit him.
1283
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:28.639
I tried to hit him.
1284
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:33.320
I don't hit that hard, Okay, I tried, and I
1285
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:36.280
don't felt about how I felt him at.
1286
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:37.400
Me again and.
1287
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:45.599
I stopped and I turned around. I turned back and
1288
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:47.920
I saw him had off the pains that I just
1289
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:51.039
turned around again and I heard the.
1290
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:54.679
Punchot and I screamed like as it was hard. I
1291
01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:58.760
screamed and I tried like that and I just screamed.
1292
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:02.639
Ran back to the house, scream and I told crime
1293
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:06.119
to call that one one. At first I started my
1294
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:07.159
car and then all that I.
1295
01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:10.320
Can gain go anywhere, I just watch I can't go anywhere.
1296
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:14.079
Didn't even my kids probably still is the.
1297
01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:18.000
Ignition of my car out this auto backwards, got out
1298
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.800
of my car, said Austin, Well.
1299
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:22.800
You're gone down on the porch and I'll walked out
1300
01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:23.440
there with you.
1301
01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:31.639
He's crying all the time. He got scared, said he ever.
1302
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:34.360
Thought he could do something something like that's quite as soon.
1303
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:35.199
As he hit him, he had to.
1304
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:40.239
And this single clip you'll witness the Riley's emotional range
1305
01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:45.280
in real time. Tears, subtle humor, calculated acts, and a
1306
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.559
disturbing sense of self importance.
1307
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:50.079
What do you think he had to?
1308
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:52.559
Why do you still back shove him away?
1309
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:54.079
Why do you go down there in the first place?
1310
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:55.719
Cause I was down there?
1311
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:02.119
Have you ever hit someone me?
1312
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:08.599
Yeah? Yeah, I I which no in the reason I
1313
01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:09.920
happened a few fights.
1314
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:12.480
So if you were to get in a fight with
1315
01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:14.599
somebody and then someone shock you because.
1316
01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:17.800
You hit somebody at that I mean, if okay, if I.
1317
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:22.359
If I was not fighting this girl and she just
1318
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:24.399
walked up to me and hit me in the face,
1319
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:27.439
and I had a gun, I'm.
1320
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:27.800
Not gonna lie.
1321
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:29.600
I probably wouldn't shoot her cause I don't even like
1322
01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:34.359
to hold guns, cause that's not Yeah, my skill set.
1323
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:38.399
I am very clumsy, not at all.
1324
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:40.479
I probably not right for me to even have a
1325
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:41.359
gun in my own.
1326
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:42.800
You know, I probably not even right for me to
1327
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:43.520
have a beady.
1328
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:43.920
Done in my hand.
1329
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.600
Tell me all often and it's done you It sounds
1330
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:47.840
like you have a gone with them all the time
1331
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:48.239
he does.
1332
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:52.039
Does he shoot? Could he shoot the range? Okay, he's
1333
01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:55.119
taking it to the range twice? Okay? Did he always
1334
01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:55.800
have it with them?
1335
01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.680
No? Would go with all a lot of times when
1336
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:00.119
you and.
1337
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.720
He goes out, like if we go out to the
1338
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.800
park with the kids, he has a open carriers us
1339
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:07.479
hadnt see?
1340
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:09.079
Yeah, well go with the kids.
1341
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:11.279
He hasn't it is he? I didn't if he was
1342
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:12.880
a fella, did the namble to get it.
1343
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:14.920
Or now I fell in his am? His gun's a
1344
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:18.479
legal girl like his name? Okay, bat open carry or
1345
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:18.920
something like that.
1346
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:20.640
Yeah, an open carrier a logic.
1347
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:23.720
I don't know about gud mothers. Yes, but.
1348
01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:29.319
I mean, honestly, if I if I had uh big
1349
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:32.560
enough ball steven but have gone in my hand along
1350
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.880
with it as something girl, that was okay.
1351
01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:38.800
I mean if I was a dude and.
1352
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:47.479
As a uh my kids's mother hit dude, saw him
1353
01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:50.239
hit her back. I probably would wanted to shoot him
1354
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:50.680
right then.
1355
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:53.840
But that's just an anger thing.
1356
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:56.880
That's just uh, that's my kids's mom.
1357
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:57.760
Yeah, oh a spot.
1358
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:01.239
Now you don't have a girl right now. As soon
1359
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:04.960
as he would've hit me up, probably would have done
1360
01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:05.640
the same thing.
1361
01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:06.920
And that's why I just wanted to ask.
1362
01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:11.359
I just wanna I don't like them, Yeah, like I
1363
01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:13.720
liked them for the fact of Okay, you had it
1364
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.560
so if so breaksin, you had.
1365
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.479
It to protect me and my kids if we're out,
1366
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:21.079
and so I tried to do something, you know that
1367
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:22.479
to protect me and my kids.
1368
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:25.600
What I tell myself is I don't like them.
1369
01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:30.720
Another person, adults, how long if you and Michael been friends,
1370
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:37.800
didn't did you meet? Did you meet Michael Drew Austin?
1371
01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:40.239
Cause they were friends, okay, and then you guys got
1372
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:41.279
really close as well.
1373
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:43.520
He was over at our house or sing that, Oh
1374
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:44.119
see you guys.
1375
01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:46.600
You're all just pretty much he friends to both of you.
1376
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:48.439
Guys, right, you were all the best friends.
1377
01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:50.840
But until she meet, I know she did.
1378
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.359
About me and his girlfriend had him.
1379
01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:57.720
In the face. Who's it, Michael? Okay, friend had so
1380
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.439
he grow up with her. I grew up with Austin kind.
1381
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.359
Of yeah, cl cause we were best friends, you everything
1382
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:05.439
the best two weeks ago.
1383
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:07.640
You know how to be there for each other, your
1384
01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:09.239
mom were you?
1385
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:12.880
I mean, is are you don't feel free of Michael?
1386
01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:14.399
I mean if you ever made if you ever put
1387
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:16.720
you in a position where you were that it was
1388
01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:17.600
a few times.
1389
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:24.079
Like I have a life. I'm only twenty, I have friends.
1390
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:28.439
I do not like to be up by a significant others.
1391
01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:31.159
But all the time when or something I can't Yeah,
1392
01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:33.239
couldn't even do it with Boston, I went. But have
1393
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:35.359
I literally good with my mom's every day cause.
1394
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:38.680
I can't even Yeah, well, like your head types it
1395
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:42.760
back like plain that hides Gramma dropped them off at
1396
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:45.720
my house, freaked out on me when I was at
1397
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:46.319
my mom's.
1398
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:49.840
Yeah, after an hour and when you staying I'm sorry,
1399
01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:51.479
he stopped yelling at me.
1400
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:55.279
It was all good. That stuff makes me nervous. I'm
1401
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:56.800
not a fan. Like I told you earlier, I'm not
1402
01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:57.800
a fan of yelling.
1403
01:11:58.079 --> 01:11:58.239
Yeah.
1404
01:11:58.359 --> 01:11:59.960
Have you ever been you Michael?
1405
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:04.359
No, never had any had he ever get ausset that?
1406
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:04.880
I don't know?
1407
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:07.800
Okay, but you've never been around and you've been around
1408
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:10.640
sounds like quite a bit has been bad enough.
1409
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:12.359
He was in my car.
1410
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:16.159
Uh, I wanted to go out on my friend. It
1411
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:19.600
is if he didn't like her, is not that's not true.
1412
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:21.680
You know, like sometimes like girls.
1413
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:24.760
But I don't like this right my friend?
1414
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:31.800
And he started freaking out, start headbutting by dash in
1415
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:32.439
my car.
1416
01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:35.399
But never you hitting it?
1417
01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:38.119
No, okay, acted like he had told me he really
1418
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:39.000
wanted to hit me.
1419
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:42.000
I did that. No, never happening.
1420
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:44.760
So you've never I mean you you were more concerned
1421
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:47.920
s whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong, You're considered more
1422
01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:52.239
just his behavior, not violence, tr violence towards me, just
1423
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:54.319
his behavior in general.
1424
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.840
He has issues like sounds like he has some control
1425
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:00.760
save him.
1426
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:06.600
Free out on his grandma when he was with his
1427
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:07.560
ex Savannah.
1428
01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:12.199
Actually Savannah called me me and Savannah never had a mom,
1429
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:14.960
but she called me and said, Michael's.
1430
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:17.600
Freaking out, scared. I don't want to call the cops
1431
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:18.079
on him.
1432
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:20.039
But he won't let me leave this house.
1433
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:22.000
Can you come against Can you don't help me out?
1434
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:27.319
I drove over there. You know he's beating out in
1435
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:29.479
the hood of her car, trying to break.
1436
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:31.359
Her windows, trying to get her out of her car,
1437
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:33.119
screaming at her, yelling at her.
1438
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:35.600
She just wanted to leave. He would litter leave.
1439
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:37.119
It took me.
1440
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:40.600
I I have to be able to get him to get.
1441
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:43.840
Off of her car, to let her leave it or go.
1442
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:44.520
To my house.
1443
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:46.279
I didn't even like her.
1444
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:48.439
Yeah, oh I get it.
1445
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.199
So but I knew that he was making me very uneasy.
1446
01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:56.760
So I know he has your girlfriend she beat very uneasy.
1447
01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.000
Absolutely so well.
1448
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:02.439
Austen is acutely aware of the gravity of the situation.
1449
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:06.359
Riley doesn't seem to realize just how serious it is.
1450
01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:09.000
And so I'm just.
1451
01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:15.279
Saying what we got, what we see in the video,
1452
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:16.760
and I'm trying to enhance the audio.
1453
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:19.119
Right now, it looks like I'm a killer. I know
1454
01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:23.680
what it looks like. But here's here's the thing. Austin
1455
01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:24.840
a right.
1456
01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:28.399
You know to.
1457
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.359
Why not? Why didn't you leave the gun at home?
1458
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:36.880
Did you want to scare him? Was the main thing.
1459
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:39.520
Yeah, I just wanted him to go. I wanted him
1460
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:42.960
to stop. I wanted rightly to stop. I don't have
1461
01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:46.520
my guns to hurt people. I got into protect and
1462
01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:48.159
keep shit away from my family.
1463
01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:48.560
That's it.
1464
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:54.319
I I'm not a killer, dude, I'm not a family man.
1465
01:14:54.399 --> 01:15:04.319
I got two kids. Sorry, can.
1466
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:08.079
I'm going to jail?
1467
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:14.800
Bard it? Yeah, I've been going to jailing.
1468
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:25.319
Yes, is there anything I can do? How long am
1469
01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:26.239
I gonna go to jail?
1470
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.039
Long life?
1471
01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:32.960
If that's that's not for us to determine, okay. And
1472
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:37.199
so that's why you know this isn't like you didn't
1473
01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:38.560
lure him over there?
1474
01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:39.279
Did you know?
1475
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.520
You didn't call him, you didn't have you know, so
1476
01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:47.760
you didn't lure him over. He just he just showed up,
1477
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:52.279
all right. And and what I'm taking from it is,
1478
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:54.359
you know, I I take everything and I put it
1479
01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:58.600
into one basket. I analyze it, and I'm going through this.
1480
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:01.439
I'm looking, let's you're a good family man.
1481
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:02.359
Okay.
1482
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.439
However, this guy hit sex with your wife. All right,
1483
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:07.279
you cut him off two weeks ago, and then he
1484
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:08.159
shows back up.
1485
01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:12.319
All right, You're still pissed at him, but you're just
1486
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:13.319
trying to chase him off.
1487
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:17.439
You're trying to chase him off, yes, okay, and then
1488
01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:22.359
when he hits you in that moment, you're it's just
1489
01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:26.680
this guy has been a problem, right, and not even
1490
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:33.560
thinking about it, just a reaction boom? I mean, is
1491
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:37.399
is that honestly fair to say, yeah, because.
1492
01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:43.880
I mean to cause him any harm. But you didn't.
1493
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:46.119
You didn't lure him there. But in that in that
1494
01:16:46.479 --> 01:16:49.720
minute or in that second right there after, he hits you.
1495
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:55.680
Okay, I get it. I get pissed. I get pissed
1496
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:59.279
when you know somebody hits me, all right, I get.
1497
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.279
You can really see the difference in how Austin and
1498
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:08.840
Riley are reacting to the situation. Austin, despite everything, shows
1499
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:12.520
some remorse. It's clear in his body language and tone.
1500
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:16.720
But Riley is on a different tangent. Instead of showing
1501
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.399
remorse and giving herself a chance to get out of
1502
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:24.399
this mess smoothly, she's making things difficult for by endorsing
1503
01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:29.199
her anger. This raises a bigger question was she really
1504
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:33.720
a smart manipulator? If she was, why she making choices
1505
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:36.520
that only tighten the noose around her neck?
1506
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:38.520
So happen?
1507
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:42.479
I mean, were you worried when he showed up your house?
1508
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:47.279
That when he broke the window? I completely like almost
1509
01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:48.960
what in the full anxiety at hack.
1510
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:51.439
Because I'm not used to that.
1511
01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:57.199
It's like pull a book on his face, scared like
1512
01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:01.640
I was. Silence is not good, but yelling or it
1513
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:03.000
has been my whole life.
1514
01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:04.880
Scared me.
1515
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:07.239
I was scared.
1516
01:18:07.319 --> 01:18:08.960
That's why I wanted to go to my mom's cause
1517
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:09.640
I was scared.
1518
01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:12.000
Why didn't you wait come bim to eat before he
1519
01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:12.560
went or.
1520
01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:14.800
Cause I didn't know if he was leeve or not?
1521
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:17.159
And I kind of just tried to stop paying attention
1522
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:19.479
to it. They didn't wanna hear it because it was
1523
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:22.000
making me work. So it was if I couldn't breathe.
1524
01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:25.319
And I mean, you were not afraid of him enough
1525
01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:27.279
to where you I mean you changed him down to me.
1526
01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:27.840
I him.
1527
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:29.720
I had a glass thing in like him, and I
1528
01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:31.880
was very mad. He something he was gonna burn like him,
1529
01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:32.640
just high as down.
1530
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:34.640
Yeah, so you weren't in fear of him. You were
1531
01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:35.800
just more mad at the word.
1532
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:39.439
Here was saying at then at that point. Yeah, but
1533
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:41.279
then I kind of was afraid of myself.
1534
01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:44.479
I'm not like that, okay, and that's not me.
1535
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:47.159
Yeah that sounds she made me.
1536
01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:49.159
He brought out a bad fight to you that you
1537
01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:50.479
don't I want to see.
1538
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:51.239
I didn't see that.
1539
01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:53.239
I mean since I was like ten years old.
1540
01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:57.640
Yeah, I've tried, you know, buck, were you its ever
1541
01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:01.520
been angry? She did not Why I did you know that's.
1542
01:19:01.439 --> 01:19:05.479
Hi, try to keep that in not to be pretty
1543
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.520
good at ever think you were at all? I think
1544
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:09.880
you were just playing a hard.
1545
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:22.319
And were you worried? Were you I mean while you.
1546
01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:24.920
Had Mica over uh, when you were chasing him down
1547
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:26.079
the street and.
1548
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:27.840
When you guys were fighting at the in front of
1549
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:29.520
that car there at the entrance where you were that
1550
01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:30.319
he was gonna kill you?
1551
01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:34.600
Or were you just this way anything he was gonna
1552
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:34.920
hurt me?
1553
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:36.560
That is given.
1554
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:40.479
I not fray to that.
1555
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:42.520
Okay, I'm never worried that.
1556
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:45.039
Anyone's going but maybe because I know at some point
1557
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:47.399
in my life to diet and no guts.
1558
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:52.199
Just sat to hide her is internal card that's gonna
1559
01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:53.199
stop what it wants.
1560
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:54.880
What would focus I hit the actions?
1561
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:57.000
Was he doing anything that made you feel like you
1562
01:19:57.159 --> 01:20:00.359
remember people say he was w Can.
1563
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:02.960
It mean like you just look at if any cut
1564
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:07.720
like butting on his look when this like his hands
1565
01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:08.520
were going and.
1566
01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:13.239
I just PSI were you injured at all?
1567
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:17.039
That lad hurt a little bit, But I already have
1568
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:20.680
a bad meme for what used to play football, No for.
1569
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:21.439
What it hurts from.
1570
01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:25.079
But I think it popped out of place. I think
1571
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:26.239
we went over the car.
1572
01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:29.720
Okay, it just popped on But it wasn't anything from
1573
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:32.039
when he usually swung in a hit your cheek.
1574
01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:35.760
That okay, I don't I have gotten head in the face.
1575
01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:38.319
What other that head?
1576
01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:40.199
Look, he wasn't doing anything. That was.
1577
01:20:42.239 --> 01:20:44.760
When he went to hit me. But you don't need
1578
01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:46.279
to hit I didn't know.
1579
01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:47.079
Okay.
1580
01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:51.520
You can see that this isn't the first time Riley
1581
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:55.920
has been involved in the conflict. Wow, accidents happened is
1582
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:59.800
a common excuse. The more important observation would be why
1583
01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:02.600
these incidents seem to occur around Riley.
1584
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:05.239
Oh do you have I mere you.
1585
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:08.720
A probation, parole? Any one's warrants right now, A long
1586
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:11.199
probation okay, as a bench for what.
1587
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:13.760
You got in a fight?
1588
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.119
It where Okay, the girl hit me with.
1589
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:20.840
A box, so I picked rup. I'm interested to pick drup.
1590
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:25.600
Are from Okay, seuse you got a warrant right now though, whereat.
1591
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.880
The cot the cop that I was in the our list,
1592
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:30.079
so that they weren't picking.
1593
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:33.159
On the bench warrants okay, so that they weren't gonna
1594
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:35.359
take me. Okay, I'm gonna check im. I don't wanna
1595
01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:38.239
promise you that I yeah, but I'm gonna check on
1596
01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:40.000
it for you cause I don't.
1597
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:42.439
Wanna lie to you. You beg him, we've been on
1598
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:44.359
I'm not gonna lie here, and I'm trying to just
1599
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:44.760
get you.
1600
01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:45.880
My head's just go.
1601
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:46.279
Yeah.
1602
01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:49.159
Absolutely, But like I said, that's why right now you
1603
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:50.319
are You're not trigly.
1604
01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:52.359
Right now you are on a custody So that's why
1605
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:55.000
I wanna make sure you you understood your rights and
1606
01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.039
that everything that There's just a lot, a lot that
1607
01:21:57.199 --> 01:21:58.880
happened right that I really you.
1608
01:21:58.960 --> 01:21:59.960
Really needed to work out.
1609
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:02.960
It's important to note that while Riley may have been
1610
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:07.319
the catalyst or mastermind behind the situation, she didn't pull
1611
01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:12.560
the trigger. Austin did so. Despite Riley's manipulative role, the
1612
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:17.199
blame largely falls on Austin. Now, pay attention to Austin
1613
01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:20.439
and Riley's behaviors when they're left alone in the room.
1614
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:24.399
Their reaction and isolation might reveal more about their true
1615
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:27.319
feelings than any words they've said so far.
1616
01:22:30.800 --> 01:23:31.359
Fuck m.
1617
01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:39.399
Now everything boils down to one crucial question. Did Austin
1618
01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:42.039
plan this on his own or was he just a
1619
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:43.680
puppet in Riley's game?
1620
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:46.239
Or that he came over and.
1621
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:48.399
Broke your window. But this is your your best friend
1622
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:52.479
for five years, you said, brother, this is a betrayal
1623
01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:57.159
beyond any comparison that he would do this to you.
1624
01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:01.720
That he would say with your girlfriend. I wasn't even
1625
01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:02.600
worried about that.
1626
01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:06.119
Bradley told me if I touched him, if I did anything,
1627
01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:08.720
that I would go about losing my kids.
1628
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:10.239
And I wasn't going to do that.
1629
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:13.399
So I stood my ground, took that shit to the
1630
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:16.399
chin like a man, and held my shit for two weeks.
1631
01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:18.239
I didn't say shit, I didn't talk to him, I
1632
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:21.680
didn't do nothing. I had zero interaction with him.
1633
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:22.680
And and and that's good.
1634
01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:24.359
And like my partner said, you didn't lure him in.
1635
01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:30.960
But those emotions they bottled up and they festered. And
1636
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:34.439
I don't blame you one bit for being angry with him,
1637
01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:38.560
and you chose not to do anything. But I think
1638
01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:41.079
that just the cork popped on that bottle.
1639
01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:44.039
And it came out. And and so sometimes our emotions
1640
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:48.319
get the best of us, and we'd make snap decisions
1641
01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:56.199
based off of those emotions. And we say that that's
1642
01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:59.720
what happened here, a snap decision, not well thought out
1643
01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:06.680
and just a snap decision like that of anger, and
1644
01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:11.159
this happened. Yes, she would agree with me.
1645
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:14.600
There was not premeditated in any way, shape or form, no, sir,
1646
01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:20.000
But you let your anger get the best of you.
1647
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:24.760
Like my partner said, those bottle up actions, bottle up thoughts.
1648
01:25:28.039 --> 01:25:29.840
Right Yes.
1649
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:37.159
At this point, Austin seems to have bottled everything up.
1650
01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:42.079
He's not responding, showing signs of inner tormoil. While he
1651
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:46.439
isn't directly blaming, righty, it's clear that her involvement has
1652
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:50.279
placed her in serious trouble. Nonetheless, the truth about his
1653
01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:53.439
role in this might be more complicated than it seems.
1654
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.960
Okay, well, what's what's gonna happen? Is they They just
1655
01:25:57.000 --> 01:25:59.520
wanted to confer you are gonna have to go to
1656
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:00.560
jail for your warrant.
1657
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:07.239
Okay, so why don't think I'll tell me I love it?
1658
01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:07.600
Man?
1659
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:11.479
I don't know who fools you that or what part
1660
01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:13.720
all that I tell you all. One just wanted to
1661
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:17.079
tell that they don't they were taking people over.
1662
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:21.680
Well, so what he was probably telling you is typically
1663
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:22.359
they don't.
1664
01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:24.880
Take people to do They weren't taking today.
1665
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:27.479
Wore like that.
1666
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:32.000
But with the circumstance of this might as well get
1667
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:33.600
it taken care of. They'll just go You'll go back
1668
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:37.560
in front of a judge for it tomorrow. Probably it's
1669
01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:38.079
still morning.
1670
01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:39.159
I don't want to hear what.
1671
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:50.399
All right, and then what else will probably that up
1672
01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:54.000
happening just because of what happened.
1673
01:26:55.239 --> 01:27:00.000
Between you and Michael, You're probably gonna.
1674
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:02.640
Be with assault and battery, which is a kind of
1675
01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:04.399
liquid PASMO probation right now.
1676
01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:07.399
And the reason I'm telling you all this is because
1677
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:08.760
you've been honest with me, and I want you to
1678
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:10.439
me to be honest with you. I'm not here that
1679
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:13.079
there's no secrets here. Any questions you have, I'll answer.
1680
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:14.920
That's why I'm being up trouble with you about heaving
1681
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:16.840
to go to jail on your probation violation.
1682
01:27:19.880 --> 01:27:21.640
I don't know yet, Like I've betted here.
1683
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:23.880
My partners have been talking to him, and there's a
1684
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:24.960
lot of work to do on this.
1685
01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:28.720
I mean, this is a very very serious matter, and
1686
01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:30.880
someone lost their life, no matter the reason.
1687
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:33.800
Someone with the loss of life the devastates.
1688
01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:38.039
In the end, both Austin and Riley were arrested for
1689
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:42.159
the murder of their friend Michael Tripp. Austin Green twenty three,
1690
01:27:42.600 --> 01:27:45.760
fled guilty to second degree murder in February twenty twenty
1691
01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:49.800
three and was sentenced to thirty years in prison. Riley Young,
1692
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:54.319
twenty pled no contest to filonious assault and received a
1693
01:27:54.479 --> 01:27:58.359
much lighter sentence one year in jail and three years
1694
01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:02.960
on probation. Thank you for watching. If you like this
1695
01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:05.520
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1696
01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:08.119
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1697
01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:11.000
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1698
01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:14.039
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1699
01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:17.119
channel at the same time. Thanks again for sticking around,
1700
01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:19.039
and I'll see you in the next video.
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The first time, I went like this, and I was like,
2
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and I brought it back down and held it with me,
3
00:00:06.719 --> 00:00:08.839
and he kept yelling and screaming, and I did it
4
00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:09.960
again and all no.
5
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I like that from each other.
6
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I went to go grab Riley. I turned my head.
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She says, oh.
8
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And then the next thing I know, I can't feel faced.
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Dude like he he literally socked me as hard as
10
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he could in the face.
11
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I was seeing stars.
12
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Officer Riley and Austin thought they could outsmart everyone until
13
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the police uncovered their twisted plane.
14
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What do you what do you do?
15
00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:36.640
What do you do with the guy's eyes bolting out
16
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of his head and there's brain laying.
17
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Yeah, I don't know what to do with them.
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Man, he's it's to the head and he's bleeding out.
19
00:00:45.840 --> 00:00:46.799
Man, there's nothing I can do.
20
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He's got blood everywhere. Man, just just he's can't he can't.
21
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Hear watch some of the videos, it showed a little
22
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bit different picture of what happened.
23
00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:05.359
So the partners just got back and there's video surveillance
24
00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:09.799
at the few of those trailers right along that part way.
25
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Were you aware of that?
26
00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:18.239
Okay, this is the instant he understands he can't get
27
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away anymore. Officers were moments away from exposing a horrifying truth,
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the dark secret behind his best friend's murder.
29
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He where's the gun up? Oh? Right in the face.
30
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Do you think that being shocked in this situation is
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was the appropriate action that to handle her?
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Yeah? Maybe not in the face, but yeah.
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Well why ay ay.
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I'm not a fan of U any of that. I
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don't like I don't like violence.
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Yeah, I got him.
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When officers arrived on May twenty twenty one, they had
38
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no idea they were about to unravel a deeply twisted
39
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love triangle.
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We have a GSWI the head. He's breathing, not conscious.
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On the middle of the road where the remains of
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twenty six year old Michael Tripp.
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What do you need me to do?
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Nearby, police discovered a man identified as Austin Green, who
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would turn out to be the most crucial figure in
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the investigation.
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It's my partner, explained, You're not in trouble, right, Okay.
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We just got a lot of stuff we gotta do
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right now.
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So I don't even know what happened.
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Man.
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He came and bust into out and then Riley.
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It's a long story, like Riley and that guy were
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like messing around and stuff. But this is the father
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of her children's house. She's only been gone from here
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for not even two weeks, so she came back. She
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wanted to come home, and dude ran up and punched
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the window out, So she came out here to come
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talk to him, and then Austin walked out to make
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sure she was okay.
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And I guess, dude like hit Riley or something.
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The girl.
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I guess dude hit Riley. And then all I.
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Heard was witness testimony led officers to another suspect, Riley Young,
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who had played a role in the series of events
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ending with Michael's death.
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We got here, she made a steaming when we were
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putting her in the car that he hit her.
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Yeah, that's what he was telling me too, that he
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was especially on her windows.
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You know, his girls from shut him.
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So got shellcasing here that was next to the body.
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We got to do this camp right here, m.
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Dude, she chases the victim down here, search Pete, not him.
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Suspect comes flying in, gets into a fucking rate from
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the car there, like, consider your shoving match, meet you.
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Away right here, pulls a gunna and pop him right
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the head.
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Jesus. She runs back and he just calmly walks back.
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Oh fuck that.
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We'll grab a splash of fuel, man, and I'll get
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you over there and get those cuffs off you. All right,
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m hmmm, something I believe. Hey, I'm not I'm not
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here to judge. Man. We're all the same as you. Man,
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Humans make mistakes, have emotions. W no different. All right,
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I man, watch this stuff on that curve right there.
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Just get across that grass and over the cements here.
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We'll get some shoes up there too, so you can
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just have a seat right here for now. Let me
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make a phone call, try and expedite this a little
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bit realistically, I thought the office right here would be
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open for you.
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From the outset. They were odd signs taking into custody
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for a murder investigation. Riley and Austin somehow managed to
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fall asleep in the interrogation room. But this was just
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the beginning.
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Way to Detective Surs. Is your water here?
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Okay, Hey Austin, sorry to wait.
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Yeah, my new detective swarves with the Sheriff's office. All right,
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I know you've been in here a little bit do
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you need Do you want something to drink? Some water, coffee,
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anything like that while while we wait. We'll be with
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you here in a few Okay, Okay, you're sure you
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don't want any water? They said they were gonna bring
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me some, Okay, don but no, I'll go grab you
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some water right now.
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We're sure. Coffee, I'm about to put a pot on.
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I need something's early, okay, all right, I'll get you
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some water here. Okay.
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Of course it was time for Miranda rights. Everything from
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this point until the very end is absolutely crucial in
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understanding the twisted dynamics.
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All right, So obviously we've got some supparante. We got
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to talk about everything that I that had it last
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night before we talk, because right now you are a custoy.
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You're not free to leave. I do got to reach
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you your right before we can talk. Okay, if common
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something you be on TV? All right?
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Stread along here with me and the race mareen silent.
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Anything you say can it will be used against you
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in a.
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Cork of law.
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So Austin again, my name is Jeff Hooper. I'm a
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detective with the Sheriff's office. Is a detective lair Okay,
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I'd like to sit down with you and talk to
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you about what transpired tonight, okay, because there's two sides
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to every story, and I want to get your side
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of the story. Okay, fair enough, Okay, Now, Austin, based
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on the circumstances here, obviously, you know you got put
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in handcuffs and everything like that, there's ru certain rules
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that I have to follow, and in order to talk
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to you, Okay, I have to read to your Miranda rights. Yes, okay,
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those are the rules that I have to follow, a right,
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and I follow the rules that don't break the rules, okay.
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But the only thing that I ask is is that
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you be honest with me.
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This is a This is a two way street here
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because you know what, You're gonna have questions. I'm gonna
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have questions, okay, And so it works by both of
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us talking together.
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So I'm gonna go over these first, all right.
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Advise that you.
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Understand after each one, Okay, you have the right to
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remain silent. Do you understand that anything you say cannon
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will be used against you in a court?
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Lag? Do you understand that?
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But before moving forward, the relationships need to be organized
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and understood, tell me what's going on?
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Okay, So Austin and my kid's dad, I've got up
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to us two weeks ago.
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I happened Michael, And how long have you went Austin
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bunch agothers?
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Three years? Three years?
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And I kind of.
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Being stupid, never grow with them.
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Two weeks ago and I got Michael, Well, I just
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want to get all the relationship figure out of them.
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We can go into everything that happened. So they broke
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up two weeks ago?
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Yeah, did you don't Michael before?
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Okay? So after?
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Where you gonna talking pre breakoup? Or was it after
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breakup of the relation.
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Should have sorted it? Were you just talking to hooking
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up with baby?
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Although last a few pictures.
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Of us on Facebook? And then I was like talking
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or yeah something.
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Some more not quite beating relationship.
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I did it.
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At first glance, this case might remind you of another
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we've covered. That setup seems familiar, a jealous as a
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new relationship and a girlfriend tangled between them, But as
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the story unfolds, it becomes clear that this girlfriend might
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be the one masterminding the whole scheme.
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To last night earlier, I picked my little brother up
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from Ditsy's skate b I'm around ten thirty and I
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dropped Michael off at home and I got back and I.
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Went talked to us, and then I came back and
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I told him like, well, I didn't.
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Wanna be with him any more.
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And he showed up at my mom's house. Okay, explain
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that old a one.
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My mom was two streets over and I was watching
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my little brother from my mom.
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Cause she wasn't home.
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Okay, So you ever went Michael earlier though?
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my mom's with me the night before last night.
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I was with 'em all morning and I was like, hey.
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I need to think about some stuff. I wanna drop
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you off at home and I'll tell you. I'll like,
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you know what's going through my head about right now.
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I just I need to think about my whole entire life.
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And so you know, I'm gonna get my little brother
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from skating. I go and talk to us, and I
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get back to my mom's to go check with my brother.
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So you talked to boss away, Yeah, Well, dropped Michael off.
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I dropped him off at his grandma's wherethay at.
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I forgot Yeah, yeah, you showed up at my house.
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I would like to do discuse you.
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I really didn't want you. You salt, I want a car ride.
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I don't like free genre on my little dove.
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What's the time right?
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Having sorted out the relationships, the detectives can now turn
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our attention to the series of events on the last
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day that led to Michael's death.
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Between I think eleven is when he showed up back
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at my house eleven and then I probably dropped him
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off again at.
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Eleven thirty because I'm the teachers when I want.
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A car ride, so you can call him down. And
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then I drolled back to his grandma's house all the time,
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and I was like, yeah, I just want you to
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get out of my daughter.
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Okay, So you after you dropped your Michael off, you
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would pick your brother up.
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Yep, he would back the mobs. Yeah okay, oh you're right.
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Flows And that was about a lot of eleven A
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light red night at night, A love it.
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At night, yeah.
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Okay, and the Flanel shows back up.
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Yeah. So you know it's like, do you want to
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get back in the carless me, We'll go on a drive.
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We'll figure this out.
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What's he say, when he shows up there crying, wants
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to be with you?
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In love?
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He is, Wow, he ch in love.
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I guess I don't.
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Okay, draggle with light right now?
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What was was someone that quick?
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But I dropped most back his grandma's.
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You know.
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I tacked him for a little while, and then I
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told him probably you ravel.
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Two two fifteen in.
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The morning, that I didn't wanna be with him anymore.
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He said that, said, I'm walking to your house. I said, no,
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you're not. I'm gonna go talk to Austin.
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I'd rather you not come over.
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I don't I don't wanna deal with that. No one
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wants to deal with it right now. When I blocked
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him on everything.
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Where'd you text them a Facebook? Uh? Napchat?
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I said, lap text something? Okay?
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I said a little bit to uh leave me alone
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on all different apps.
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but I.
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Didn't wanna be with him. He was like, well, that's fine,
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I'll walk into your house. You're gonna be with me,
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and I would let do not walk in my house.
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I want not even gonna be there going to Austin's.
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I don't wanna be with you, soase don't make it
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any worse than.
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It has to be.
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And I blocked him when I went to Austin's.
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Why don't you give me a run down of f
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uh yesterday? You know, start yesterday, you know in the morning,
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and how I like to you don't have people do
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it is you know, it's easier to remember, like when
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you first got up in the morning, once you did,
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and just go about your day.
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M alright up until we're here right now? Oh, I
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mean I woke up, I started gleaning in the house.
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I uh, baby mamma came over, dropped the kids off.
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up leaving.
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W what's her name, uh Riody Young, Ridley Young.
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Yes, that's my baby mommy, okay, my girlfriend for three years.
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She's not just my baby MoMA. Okay.
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She came over, dropped the kids off to me cause
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she said she wanted to go to sleep cause she
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didn't feel good.
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I had my mom come pick them up from my
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house so I could proceed to go to work for
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the night.
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My mom came and got them. I got ready for work.
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I went to work and everything was klosher and probably
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come around nine thirty ten o'clock, right about right about
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the time I was gonna go on break. Uh, Riley
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messaged me and she was like, Hey, I wanna go
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over when you come on break so we can talk
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things out.
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I wanna come home, you know, I wanna work this back. Oh,
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don't wanna get I'm my family back together. I was like, okay,
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I'm gonna stop the Taco Bell give me something to
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eat cause I'm hungry. And uh, that was that. I
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got off probably.
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About two thirty one is when I clocked out, and
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from there I took the Dixie Highway back to seventy five,
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took seventy five to.
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Netto, went to the Taco Bell on Netto Road, got
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my food. Actually fell asleep sitting down waiting for my food.
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I was so tired.
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And then I went home.
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I ate my five layer Okay, Sorito got halfway through
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my proNT trap and then my front window gets smashed
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in and I see Michael standing there yelling at me
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and Riley talk home Riley, all types of names and
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what not. So, uh, who's Michael?
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Michael was my best friend for five years? Okay, so
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Michael's your best friend for five years? And then it's
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you and Riley.
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Is there anybody else there with you? Guys? As of
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right now?
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On my buddy Brian, he's there on and off just
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to helping my dogs and stuff when I'm not there, Cause,
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like I said, me and my baby mom we're.
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Going through a a a rough time in our relationship.
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What's uh, what's Brian's last name?
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Do you know?
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Yeager?
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Okay, so it's you, Riley, Brian. Window gets broken out.
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Yeah, we're Michaels. We're all sitting there. No, it's at
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my house. Yeah yeah, and we're all sitting there on
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my couch and he smashes my window out. My first
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instinc just to grab my gun, and I grabbed my gun.
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I walked outside and I begged him to leave. I
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told him I did not want to fight him. I
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told him I wasn't going to do this at my
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house because this is where my kids stay. Honest to God,
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Officer Ridley wouldn't have came over that night.
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I would have had my.
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Kids there in the living room, and he would have
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done that with my kids, and it would have been
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even worse.
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And I begged him to leave. She begged him to leave.
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Ryan begged him.
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To leave, but he would not stop. He just kept
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going and kept running his mouth and kept popping off
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at the lid.
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And then he said something along the lines of I'm
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just gonna burn the fuck trailer down with.
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You and your kids in it.
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And Ridley got mad, like any other mom wouldn't started
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chasing him down the street.
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So I started chasing her down the street. I would
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grab her, he hits her, he hits me, and next
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thing I know, he's something brown.
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What's intriguing here is how these two approach the same
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question differently. When I asked what happened yesterday, Riley zoomed
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in on the small details, almost appearing defensive, whereas Austin
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provided a larger, more comprehensive perspective on the events. Such
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contrasts between them would become more and more apparent as
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the interrogation progresses.
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Me, Austin, Brian and my dog.
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So I was sitting on the love seat with Austin
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and he was eating taco I was talking to him.
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Brian was sitting on the big couch and all of
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a sudden, out here is crash all of my front window.
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About Buston and he's.
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Like, what the are you doing here?
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Michael?
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Yeah, so it's so do you hear a crash?
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Yeah?
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I hear the window get broken? And you know, we
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all jump because who was breaking windows at two thirty
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in the morning. And he's standing nasty with yelling and screaming.
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What was he saying?
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You're gonna and talk to me or I'm gonna catch
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this house on fire? And Austin walked outside and he's
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always got his gun on his house.
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He want me if I wanna catch up here?
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So do you ever wanna go? Yes? And he says
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what were you doing here? Yes?
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And then I just ignored him.
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I like, I am not.
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Good with the drama or young ignor, so I just.
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Ignored him.
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And then he kept saying, I mean kept I don't
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know exactly what he was saying, but he kept going
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and going and going. I know a few times I
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heard him look straight to Austin and say kill me, mother,
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kill me right now.
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No, he says, well, he's still outside, and Austin and
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Brian are at the doorway of the house now, cause
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day got up when they first heard the glass.
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They stand up.
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What's so? What else does he screaming?
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If you remember any specific things that he said, he
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was saying a lot.
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Put your good down and let me beat your ass, Austin,
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I'm taking your girlfriend back.
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She's mine. She's not going anywhere. Countless times she said,
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put your going down and fight me and let me
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be your ass.
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Regardless of the nature of Riley's relationship with Michael or
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whether her feelings for him have faded, her emotional response
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seems completely out of place given the circumstances, especially since
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Michael is dead and he was her friend and love
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interest just days ago. Austin, on the other hand, appears
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to show genuine emotion for his deceased best friend.
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Get death as.
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Much as any that did not mean to do it.
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I just wanted to stop. You wouldn't stop.
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I was just trying to go home and go to
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past do I could.
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Get my kids.
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He just kept going, he kept screaming, he kept just
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he just wouldn't stop. Man, he was like a like
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the animotion. He settled cage and he was just old
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for everybody's head. It's like something inside of him switched,
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because when it first happened, he wouldn't fight me, he
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wouldn't get out the car, he wouldn't say a word
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to me. And then he comes over last night acting like, honestly,
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like he was on some type of drugs or something.
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I'm on for five years and I've never seen him
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act like that.
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And he just kept bowing and kept bowing and kept going, no,
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I'm here.
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Well, I about had a panic attack that walked in
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between Austin and Ryan. I walked outside cause I was
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getting claustrophobic, and my dog was jumping, and he was.
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Like in the open window, staring at and yelling at me.
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I was throwing something through, going to do now, I
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don't know.
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I couldn't.
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I wasn't paying attention, okay, so like I didn't even
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have time to really, I didn't even know.
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I started freaking out. I went outside. I was gonna
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walk to my mom's. My mom was true streams over
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from Austin.
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Peace for a minute. Walk.
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Yeah, so I was just gonna walk to my mom's.
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I start walking. He's walking, He's arguing with me.
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Austin's walking behind us because I keep walking and he's
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threatening me while we're walking if I.
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Don't stop, y's what you say.
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So before we get to the walking away, do you
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guys go outside at one point and talk to him
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or do you guys stay inside?
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Austin and Brian were like on the porch kind of
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with both doors, the screen door open, the big door open.
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They were like kind of half in and half outside.
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And what are they saying?
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Are they?
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They were just telling him to leave, and like, you know,
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he was like, come on, Austin, if you're really big
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and bad, just shoot me.
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He's like, dude, I'm not shooting you. Just get off
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of my property. He goes, if I wanted to shoot you,
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I would shot you when you bust out my window.
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Just leave us alone.
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Okay.
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So that's about the time that I left that I
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wanted to go.
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I was.
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Freaking off out.
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I just wanted to go to my mom's and call
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down and just not.
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Deal with any of them to die.
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So you said that.
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The window got broke, and he said, the first thing
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you did was grab your gun?
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Yes, okay, what ten guns?
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It's a block eighteen gen three okay, thirty round siegal,
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it's all in my name.
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Okay. Where was that at inside the trailer? It was
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sitting on my uh.
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Uh a little TV table right next to my couch. Okay,
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so it's sitting on a table or on your couch
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and you didn't hear your couch.
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Okay.
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Here that he's gradually gotten, you go to the door.
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What are what are Riley and uh Brian doing at
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this time?
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At this time, there's still stuck trying to figure out
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what happened because he's just standing there yelling. Okay.
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So basically I I I saw the trailer. So he's
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like yelling in through the open window. Yes, And so
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then you go to the door.
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I go to the door, and I get I tried
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to get him to leave because, like I said, it
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was three o'clock in the morning. I have neighbors who
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have kids too, man. I I didn't wanna do anything.
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I didn't wanna find him. I didn't, so h L
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let me.
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So you're standing in the doorway in your house, yes, okay,
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like just shouting through the screen. Yes, and uh, where's
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he at?
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He was down by the foot of my porch. Okay.
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So he's down on the concrete alright, and you two
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are shouting back and forth.
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Yes. He got into my face multiple times, and I
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begged him to please go. So you're you're telling him
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you need to leave? Yes, you need to leave.
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I did I Now, is the.
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Gun in your hand? Isn't your waistband?
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The gun was in my hand. I don't have my CPO,
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so I don't I don't hide it. Everybody knows that. Okay.
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So did he know that you had a gun? Yes?
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What did he say about that? He told me to
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shoot him. He told me put a bullet in his head.
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I told him I didn't want to do that. I
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told him, I, well, I didn't want to multiple times.
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Okay.
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And so then when he's outside, U let me take
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you back a little bit. So you said you and
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Michael have been friends for five years, you're best friends?
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Yeah, okay? And so, uh, does Michael own a guns?
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No? No? Okay, does Brian o' a guns? No?
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Riley No? But you have three?
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Yes? Okay, you got the ruger, Yes, I have the
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ruger a a Barrigade bm R nine.
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Which is AAR fifteen stype type style pistol rifle carb
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and i'd have my clock nineteen.
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Okay.
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Alright, So Michael shows up, he is drawn with you,
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telling you to put a.
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Bolt in his head.
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The detective then posed one of the most crucial questions
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of the case. Why why would someone shoot their best friend?
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What's why y'all this anger? I mean, what's what's I
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mean if you guys were friends?
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He uh, okay, Well it wasn't even him. My baby
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mama has.
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A problem with drugs in a past with drugs, and
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uh she ended up relapsing the going and sleeping with
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him and uh.
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Like you'd say, sleep like have a sex, yeah, okay.
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And you know, I, as any guy would be, I
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was heated I was.
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I was beyond pitched, but I didn't take it anything
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further than that because I have my kids and I
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know that if I would fuck up, they wouldn't have
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me in their I and the only stability that they
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have in their life.
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What uh So Riley relapsed?
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What?
546
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What drugs did she use? I I can't tell you
547
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:20.079
exactly because I don't know. I wasn't there, I wasn't around,
548
00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:25.640
and she did it. So it's honestly, it's just kind
549
00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:28.759
of hearsay. I guess, and that's shut.
550
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.000
But she came home and.
551
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.000
She was supposed to be over at her.
552
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.440
Mom's only look like two streets down from me, and
553
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:41.880
I guess Michael either walked or.
554
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.039
Had someone to bring him. He showed up to her,
555
00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:45.880
uh at her mom's house and he didn't answer.
556
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:46.920
What was this?
557
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.400
It had to have been last night before he showed
558
00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:51.759
up in my house, okay, cause there was no other
559
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:52.880
place that she would have gone.
560
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:57.880
And he only lives in Frenchtown, Villa. So I guarantee you.
561
00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:01.200
He he either walked there or I got a ride there,
562
00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.079
but I don't. I don't know exactly how he got there.
563
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:09.960
All I know is that I begged him to stop,
564
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.440
and I begged him to leave. I told him I
565
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:14.279
didn't wanna fight him. I told him I didn't want
566
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.240
any problems, told him I just wanted him to go away.
567
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:19.640
I don't I'm not like one of these kids out
568
00:28:19.680 --> 00:28:21.599
here just flashing all their guns and shit like that.
569
00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.920
I got more protection because all the shootings that happened
570
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:25.920
in downtownson Row.
571
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:28.559
I know how people in this town are. I've lived
572
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:30.519
in this town my entire life, and it seems like
573
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.400
everybody's just getting stupider and stupider.
574
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.160
So I got it from my own personal protection from
575
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:38.079
my family, because I'm not gonna go out like a
576
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:38.720
I'm not.
577
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.440
Just gonna go out like a like A. I'm sorry,
578
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:44.440
I'm not, but I'm not gonna let my family, my
579
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:47.559
family's life being Jeffary, OK. Somebody else has a gun,
580
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:50.960
and I don't you know, I wasn't pointing the gun
581
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.839
in his face. I wasn't waving it out of making
582
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:54.839
it known that I had it.
583
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.759
I walked outside with it and I asked him to leave,
584
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.279
and that was it. And he kept going and he
585
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.960
kept going and he kept going. I wasn't sitting here saying, oh,
586
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.079
you know you and dah da da da dadada.
587
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.759
I wasn't. I was asking him to leave my premises.
588
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.559
I was asking him to drop the situation and me.
589
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:12.359
And he would not.
590
00:29:13.920 --> 00:29:17.799
But at some point he does leave. Yes, So he
591
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.440
walked off, and then Riley chased after him.
592
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.160
Why is she chasing an outcown because he said he
593
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:26.119
was gonna burn down.
594
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:28.519
The trailer with my kids in it. Okay, did you
595
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:29.039
call nine?
596
00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:29.319
Mong?
597
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:32.599
I ad right after I did it? Yeah, okay, right
598
00:29:32.680 --> 00:29:35.839
after I id that was my first reaction do to I.
599
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:38.279
Pulled the trigger and I grabbed my phone and I
600
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:40.359
called nine and wanted nobody answered.
601
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:41.599
So I called my mom and I told her that
602
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:42.160
I'm sorry.
603
00:29:42.279 --> 00:29:45.400
And then the picker cop who was across the street
604
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:47.359
was the first one there. I put my clock on
605
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:48.200
my porch.
606
00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.000
If I walked to him with my hands up when
607
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:50.599
I got down on.
608
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.680
The ground, and I could find as a plan.
609
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.920
As I could, because I I'm not trying to go
610
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.039
to jail, and I'm tryna go home with my kids.
611
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:03.200
I really am, so.
612
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:12.720
Taylor er Uh, I'm sorry. Her name's loved me righty Ry.
613
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:16.119
I'm saying thank you, thank you, so Riley ends up
614
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:17.160
chasing after him.
615
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:23.920
Does she have anything? I I did she have a gun?
616
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:24.319
No.
617
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.240
I don't let anybody touch my stuff. Okay, like I am,
618
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.119
I am so anal about my guns because you know,
619
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:34.440
anything can happen. Guns are not toys. Accidents can happen,
620
00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:36.839
Guns can go off. My glock doesn't have a safety
621
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.440
and I have kids, So, like I, I take care
622
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:42.039
of my stuff. I keep it put up, I keep
623
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:43.240
it safe where it needs to be.
624
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:45.519
When I'm not using it, it's put up. And you
625
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.799
know it's it's put up. Well, uh, you know, they
626
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.920
they don't accidentally go off. There is a you know,
627
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:53.559
be some sort of yeah.
628
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:55.799
Manipulation of the firearm to make it go off.
629
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.000
I just know that accidents do happen. So I tried
630
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.160
my best to prove that.
631
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.960
That from happening by keeping them put up and and
632
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.640
not ala pointing them at anybody right yet, I mean,
633
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.920
cause you don't want an accident that happen. Yeah, No,
634
00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:12.200
I don't like And that's and that's the number one
635
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:14.480
rule of gun safety. You know, always keep a gun
636
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:14.839
point in.
637
00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:16.920
That safe direction. If you see the inside of my
638
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:19.119
house and it looks like I own a daycare. I'm
639
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.839
not I'm not a killer.
640
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.359
I'm not not buying an I'm a family man, and
641
00:31:24.440 --> 00:31:26.920
I got two babies that I don't wanna watch grow up.
642
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:32.119
So I got to walk and Michael follows me, so
643
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.279
wa he busts it out the win.
644
00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.200
He's saying, put your gun down and fight me.
645
00:31:37.759 --> 00:31:41.839
Put your gun down and fight me. Just fucking shoot me,
646
00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:44.319
kill me. Put a bullet in me. Already. I've been
647
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:46.079
waiting my whole life to die.
648
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:55.920
Just repeatedly, and that's when that's what I want. First
649
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.119
clustered out my window, so that's.
650
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.480
When I was like, Okay, I go.
651
00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:04.400
Yeah, just go to your mom. So as I'm walking,
652
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.200
he saw me. He's trying to grab it my footy.
653
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:10.319
I'm trying to pull away from him. Well, once we get.
654
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.960
To the essence, he grabbed it my honey hines turned
655
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.960
around and I screamed, let.
656
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.559
Me the god.
657
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.519
Once he grabbed my hoody twice, like once while I
658
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:25.839
was walking, and I just like jerked away from him
659
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:26.359
and Tad.
660
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:28.319
Walk in and then he did it again.
661
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.839
We can take a moment here to categorize different kinds
662
00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.119
of manipulators based on their approach and intelligence. The first
663
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:42.319
kind is linked to narcissistic personality disorder NPD, which is
664
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:46.880
a catch all for manipulative behaviors, especially in situation smart
665
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.720
category who used charm or control tactics to meet their
666
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:57.000
own needs. The next one is psychopathy or sociopathy. These
667
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:02.160
individuals may manipulate others without empathy or remorse, often exploiting
668
00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:08.079
weaknesses for personal gain. The last is dependent personality disorder
669
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:13.160
a DPD. These individuals may manipulate others to maintain dependence
670
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:18.400
or avoid rejection, particularly invulnerable or weaker targets, but they
671
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:22.200
might not function properly in the presence of higher authority.
672
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:24.279
So I turned around and screened at him, like he
673
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:28.720
went to swing whereat Oh, it's right up at the
674
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.079
entrance area.
675
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.240
At the enterance the lead great idea.
676
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.839
Okay, like right over a car. We actually like kind
677
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.200
of almost fell over that car that little bit.
678
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:41.799
I don't even know what kind of car.
679
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:43.599
It was the color of book buy.
680
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:44.440
Oh it was a car.
681
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:48.000
Yeah, we kind of almost fell over the car. And
682
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.119
he would just sling on me and I moved any
683
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:55.599
like merely just his hand kind of just like grazed
684
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:59.759
my neck. He swung on me Austin grabbed him and
685
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:00.720
he hit Austin.
686
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:04.839
And when he hit Austin, I did you get hit?
687
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.119
I kinda not really, his hand just kind of like
688
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.000
not like this. It didn't hurt me, but it sure
689
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.199
enough did scare me because he swung on me and
690
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:19.000
his hand did like it hit. It's not as hard
691
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:19.880
as he wanted it to.
692
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:24.280
He grazed up. Yeah, swung a mess her up. Yeah.
693
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.840
So Austin grabs him when he saw him hit me,
694
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.320
and he hit Austin in the mouth.
695
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:35.559
When he hit Austin in the mouth, I turned my head.
696
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:38.079
Away when Austin grabbed him.
697
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:41.159
Austin grabbed him off of me, and then he hit
698
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:42.519
Austin in the face.
699
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:45.800
And then I turned my head and then out I
700
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:46.719
KOs and kind of.
701
00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.119
Heard the gunshot that. I ran back to his house
702
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.599
and told Brian to call by him on.
703
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:58.360
One off, screaming, okay, did you see the shooting happened?
704
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:04.599
I was just like I didn't necessarily see it because
705
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:08.840
as when I saw him hid Boston, I fucking turned away.
706
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:12.239
So I was like, I I know he has his
707
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:14.440
gun on him. I know he always keeps it on him.
708
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:15.719
That's what it's there.
709
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:22.840
For I'm not a fan of uh, any of that.
710
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.280
I don't like. No, no, I don't like violence.
711
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:29.519
You know, I'm okay with the gun in the house.
712
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.880
It's okay. You ever to protect me and the family.
713
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.199
I get that's what you were doing, was protecting me
714
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:36.920
and yourself.
715
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:37.519
But I.
716
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:45.079
I'm okay. So that matters to me is that I'm okay.
717
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.119
My family's okay, my friend's okay.
718
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.840
You can see the oddness, right, Someone's life is gone,
719
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.559
and it's not a random stranger. It's a best friend.
720
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:03.039
But I had there's an even stranger story, right, So Riley's.
721
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:10.840
Chasing after him down the street. Then you go after Riley.
722
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:15.239
Is there some sort of interaction down there? What what transpires?
723
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.280
All I know is I went to go grab her
724
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:22.320
and then he started swinging. That's all I know. Okay,
725
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:23.599
was was she?
726
00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:25.480
Was she trying to assault him?
727
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:26.880
I don't know.
728
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.559
Riley has a temper and likes to do that type
729
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.920
of stuff. That's why I went down there to grab
730
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:36.239
her to stop that from happening. As soon as my
731
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.199
hands touched her, he started swinging.
732
00:36:39.199 --> 00:36:42.159
Okay. There there wasn't any hesitation, There.
733
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.880
Wasn't any second guess as soon as I grabbed her,
734
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:46.880
he hit her, and then he hit me.
735
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:51.719
Okay, so h he hit you? What I mean, you
736
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:54.000
guys are s I guess staying at close close?
737
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:54.960
Yeah, like we were.
738
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.119
We were probably about this far away.
739
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:57.360
From each other.
740
00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.679
I went to go grab Riley. I turned my head.
741
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.079
She says, oh, And then the next thing I know,
742
00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:05.960
I can't feel in face. Dude, okay, like he he
743
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.360
literally shocked me as hard as he could in the face.
744
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.400
I was seeing stars, officer.
745
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:16.960
Okay, like it. I so he he punches you in
746
00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:17.320
the face.
747
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:19.639
Yes, he hit me first, he broke through my window.
748
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.960
He assaulted me. So he hits you in the face.
749
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.480
And then at this point, you said, did you had
750
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:28.280
the gun in your hand?
751
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.840
Yes? And what do you do from there?
752
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:36.320
Austin's next move is peculiar. It's crucial to remember that
753
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:40.039
as far as Austin and Riley know Michael is in
754
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:43.760
the hospital being treated for his injuries, they are unaware
755
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.199
that he is actually dead, or at least they haven't
756
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:49.480
received confirmation from the detectives.
757
00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.480
A true he he struck you once in the face
758
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:56.239
with his fist. Yeah, he hit me. I stumbled back
759
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.719
and gained my consciousness as much as I could. Did
760
00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:00.639
he say anything?
761
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:03.719
No, he didn't.
762
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.840
The it wasn't him, it was it was something else,
763
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:07.800
and he wasn't.
764
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.760
I've known him for five years. I've never seen him
765
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:12.079
like that.
766
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:14.559
Man. It scared me.
767
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.199
I'm not gonna lie. I was scared for my life, dude,
768
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:18.880
cause he wouldn't stop.
769
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:20.599
Okay.
770
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:27.159
So as when you when you go down there, alright,
771
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:28.719
you're trying to break him in Riley up.
772
00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:31.360
Yes, I was trying to de escalate the situation as
773
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:32.480
much as I could, okay.
774
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:37.159
And so then he sacks she once. Uh.
775
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.960
So he seemed like a a gentleman who's been, you know,
776
00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:43.519
around the block a little bit. A have you ever
777
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.480
been in trouble before? I mean, been in minor little
778
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.920
scrapes before. I've been in fights, but nothing like this. No,
779
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.960
this was this is something completely different.
780
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:53.280
Yeah.
781
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:59.639
And and so you know I in in those previous fights,
782
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.800
I wasn't scared for my life, Officer.
783
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:06.679
I wasn't scared for me and somebody else's well being
784
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.639
at the time when I was in school.
785
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:10.559
Those were just school fights.
786
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:13.559
I was legitimately scared for me in Riley's life because
787
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:15.239
he looked like he was ready to kill.
788
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.960
Both of us. Okay, now, I from gathering statements from people,
789
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:24.639
I understand that. You know, I've heard that Riley and
790
00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:27.760
him had a a sexual relationship, r a a sexual
791
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:29.039
relationship recently, and.
792
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.239
That kind of put a rift between you and him
793
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:35.639
and you and Riley. Yes, but I wasn't taking it any.
794
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.360
Farther than that, Okay, I was worried about I mean,
795
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:41.000
it's I I and you know I. I'm trying to
796
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:41.519
get like the.
797
00:39:41.559 --> 00:39:44.400
Whole story here, Austin I, and I hope you understand
798
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:49.039
that I do. So you know what I know?
799
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.360
You know, uh, a lot of people your age or
800
00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:55.719
on social media and stuff like that. Did he make
801
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.480
any threats beforehand that you know, I'm gonna beat your mask,
802
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:02.679
i'm'a show up at your house?
803
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.800
Well, anything like that. D When was the last time
804
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:11.960
you communicated with him prior to the day everything happened.
805
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:14.719
I told him that since he didn't wanna.
806
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:18.559
Fight me, all of his new girlfriend shit was outside
807
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:21.400
my house, he could come pick it up and you
808
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:22.599
could never speak to me again.
809
00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:24.719
And that was the last thing I said to him.
810
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:25.880
And so when when was that?
811
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:31.719
That was about two weeks ago. Okay, he said he
812
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.360
didn't wanna fight you. No, he was sitting in uh
813
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.320
Riley's car. He wouldn't get out of her car. He
814
00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:39.280
wouldn't do anything.
815
00:40:39.320 --> 00:40:40.400
He just sat there.
816
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:43.000
And I mean this is right after the fact that
817
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:45.760
you that I found out she was sleeping with him.
818
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:46.840
Yes, okay, So I.
819
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:48.920
Mean at that point two weeks ago, you basically called
820
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:50.760
him out and say, hey, let's let's do this.
821
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.719
If you're mad enough to screw somebody who called her that,
822
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:56.159
y screw somebody's girlfriend, you call your brother, you should
823
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:56.719
be mad enough to.
824
00:40:56.719 --> 00:40:58.719
Throw the ones. Uh. I've been raised like that my
825
00:40:58.920 --> 00:40:59.440
entire life.
826
00:40:59.519 --> 00:40:59.679
Man.
827
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.119
And that was the last time you saw Yeah, that was.
828
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:04.159
The last time I saw him.
829
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:04.800
That was the last name.
830
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:05.119
There was no.
831
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:09.719
Communication between sir. What about between him and Riley Dad?
832
00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:12.239
Yeah, they talked all the time for from what I know,
833
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:18.760
they were together. But as of last night, she told
834
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.360
me she was done with him. She told me she
835
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.159
blocked him on everything. And uh, what's everything?
836
00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:26.880
I mean that there's so many social media platforms out there,
837
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:29.880
either Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, TikTok.
838
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.119
I don't know, man, she has some things on her phone.
839
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.039
It's retarded, you might be able to point out where
840
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.119
the problem lies. It's all about Riley.
841
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.440
I'm very harbor him. I don't even know if he's
842
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.480
dead or not right.
843
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:48.079
And I've kind of a lot of I tryed to
844
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:49.920
sleep in here like four different.
845
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:50.679
Times, and I just can't.
846
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:56.880
Yeah, how she went to put out as ports in.
847
00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:00.599
The house and right called.
848
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.760
Nine one one. I think he called nine one one,
849
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.719
and then we die have a little walk ty walk.
850
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.800
Put him from the house down where the cops were,
851
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:11.599
because he wanted to make sure that he put his
852
00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.760
gown link up and on the porch before.
853
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:18.920
The cops out there. Cause you see a lot of stories.
854
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:21.559
He freaks out.
855
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:23.519
How was his best friends?
856
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:24.840
Oh?
857
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.000
Are they close right now?
858
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:26.480
Where are they?
859
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:28.880
Obviously tell the relationship they.
860
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.920
They were literally best friends happened for years and I
861
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.679
kind of I guess I've that up.
862
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.199
Hm, But it's kind of like all didn't that fell
863
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:45.599
to another I just wanted my family back. Yeah, but
864
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:46.840
they still aid at each other.
865
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:50.639
It's hard and it was never gonna get sex. Yeah,
866
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:51.639
And then he knew.
867
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:56.400
I told him, don't don't show up here, don't don't
868
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.119
cause about your lot necessary drum.
869
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:03.599
Sure, calling Riley the mastermind who manipulated two grown men
870
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:08.360
into turning on each other might be an exaggeration. She does, however,
871
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.679
show classic signs of being a manipulator and a narcissist.
872
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.440
But our judgment of her isn't just based on context.
873
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:21.119
It's the whole package. No remorse, relaxed body language, no
874
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.280
surprise at constant lying.
875
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:25.639
Do you think you would have been able to get
876
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.360
White to leave? Call them Donald at her? I mean,
877
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:31.880
and they're talking to him word?
878
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:33.840
Do you think.
879
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:38.679
Like he didn't even say anything before he broke the window,
880
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:41.800
Like he just smashed the window and started screaming.
881
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:46.559
I don't know how to be around it like that.
882
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.559
I was yelled at by my dad when I was
883
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.519
younger all the time, and I cannot handle yelling you
884
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:53.360
how many terms?
885
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:54.400
Did like hit often?
886
00:43:55.280 --> 00:43:56.559
I think he only hit them long?
887
00:43:56.920 --> 00:44:00.280
Did an actor redated each other's faces and yell they.
888
00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.679
Had actually he had lost his mouth?
889
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:03.599
Was all righty oh?
890
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:05.800
He definitely hit him right in the mouth. I watched that,
891
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.239
but also as he hit him out anyways, I didn't.
892
00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.000
Want to see what happened before. Did often a fighter
893
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.280
Flanke fighter or Michael?
894
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:20.440
Yeah?
895
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.239
Now, let's ask the next crucial question. Could this situation
896
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.559
have been handled differently? Was there anything that could have
897
00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:33.679
prevented the death?
898
00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.199
And you didn't communicate with him a text message, phone call,
899
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.840
anything along those lines, sir, I got it ties because
900
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:42.199
my family was more important.
901
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.920
I wasn't gonna sit here and worked myself up to
902
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:48.760
two weeks ago. I mean roundabout when when was it?
903
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:50.480
I mean you said it was was.
904
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.079
It amazing time? Did the police get called or anything
905
00:44:53.159 --> 00:44:55.519
like that? I mean for disturbance or now?
906
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.440
The police didn't be called. Me and me and me
907
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.000
and Rabby fight a lot. We've both been through a
908
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:02.079
lot of stuff in our lives.
909
00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.079
We were more really hard headed, so like when we
910
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:07.760
butt heads, we butt heads, but we've always come back
911
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:11.559
together harder and stronger than than we did before. So
912
00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:14.639
my neighbors don't really call the cops. And then her
913
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:18.079
mom was there and my kids were there, and you know,
914
00:45:18.199 --> 00:45:20.320
there was just my mom was there. There was a
915
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:21.280
lot of people there.
916
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:25.280
MM just trying to de escalate the situation because everything
917
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.280
was crazy. She was trying to get her shit. I
918
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:33.800
was throwing her shit. It was it was all wild, alright.
919
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:35.920
When you guys have been friends. You said five years.
920
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:38.000
He was the first one to.
921
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:38.599
Hold my daughter.
922
00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:39.440
Yeah.
923
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:45.000
We uh we lived under the same roommate Frenchtown villa.
924
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:48.320
He uh.
925
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:49.800
He did the roof in her roommates.
926
00:45:49.960 --> 00:45:51.320
I was yeah.
927
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.760
And after I moved out, I got my own place,
928
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:01.880
and you know what I mean. And we were friends. Oh.
929
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:03.960
I loved him like a brother man. I fed him,
930
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:09.360
clothed him, got him a job. Anytime he needed anything,
931
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:10.920
I let him do it. And he needed to come
932
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:12.719
over to my house take a shower, I let him
933
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:12.920
do it.
934
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.519
He needn't tell him my clothes to wear. I'd let
935
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.000
him wear 'em. I got nothing for love, nothing but
936
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.199
love for him. That's why I was trying to de
937
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:23.480
escalate the situation.
938
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.519
And now you said, Riley's a little hot headed, Yes,
939
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:35.159
and and so was she not trying to de escalate
940
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:37.199
the situation, You.
941
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:37.960
Know I was.
942
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:40.480
I was just trying to get her to go home.
943
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:44.760
But you know how mom gets when somebody threatens their kids,
944
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.719
They're gonna do what they can to protect 'em.
945
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:49.719
I was just trying to grab her away, and then
946
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:51.599
I touched her and the next thing I know, I'm
947
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:52.320
seeing stars.
948
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:57.000
Remember in the beginning when Austin mentioned that Riley got
949
00:46:57.159 --> 00:46:59.920
riled up after Michael threatened to burn down the house
950
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.840
with the kids inside. Oddly, throughout this recap, Riley never
951
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:09.280
once brings up that reason. Clearly it wasn't as significant
952
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:13.239
as it was made out to be. On the surface,
953
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.960
it seems like Riley was either using Michael to get
954
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:19.320
back at Austin or using Austin to deal with Michael.
955
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:23.880
But let's not forget Austin isn't just an innocent bystander
956
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:24.280
and all this.
957
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:29.079
And I'm just curious that in your I came about
958
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:36.440
your opinion here, take all the relationships and the all
959
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:41.960
of that. Does this Do you think that being shocked
960
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:45.760
in this situation as was the appropriate action.
961
00:47:46.519 --> 00:47:47.119
To handle her?
962
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:50.440
Yeah?
963
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:55.400
Maybe not in the face, but yeah.
964
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:59.800
Well why an okay, guys all happy?
965
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.800
I don't want guys, but that was was m Michael r.
966
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:06.440
Did he carry a knife normally or done on him? Yeah?
967
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:11.039
It does carry knives. Not Actually, he has scared the
968
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:12.880
shit out of the other his knives and I took
969
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:14.239
him with his knives and threw.
970
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:15.920
It away because he was scared over that.
971
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.039
He harry his knives. Used to carry a pair.
972
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:22.920
Of knuckles, but he hadn't have angels.
973
00:48:23.159 --> 00:48:23.840
I don't know.
974
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:26.280
I wouldn't pay attention, but.
975
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.400
Yu, there was no clear I mean no not I
976
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.400
mean he said he was. He punched them, so there
977
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:32.079
was nothing in his hands, nothing howl.
978
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:39.360
So I watched some of the videos. It shows a
979
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.000
little bit different picture of what happened.
980
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:46.920
I want you to.
981
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.239
I want you to think back. Take a second and
982
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:54.440
think back, because what the accounts of what happened are
983
00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.199
different than what you're telephoning.
984
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:02.079
And and right now there's our one chance to talk
985
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.480
about this and get this all figured out and right
986
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:09.880
now and your benefit being honest and cooperative, no matter, Yeah,
987
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.599
it is the only thing in your favor right now.
988
00:49:12.800 --> 00:49:14.280
Was telling me the truth about what happened.
989
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.599
Don't don't even think about Austin, and don't even think
990
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:17.920
about Michael right now, think.
991
00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:21.440
About you little did the detective. No, Riley had been
992
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.880
looking out for herself this entire time.
993
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:25.599
And if something, if something was going out with you
994
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.199
and Michael before where you guys are arguing, whatever doesn't
995
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:30.679
involve the shooting part.
996
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:31.679
I just need to know what happened.
997
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:35.000
I'm until that because everything's not completely met.
998
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:36.800
Ching up there to hit on to the bong, and
999
00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:38.119
I asked, what.
1000
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:42.000
While we're up at the front and grabbed me.
1001
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.960
I went to you tell me dad, because I hit him.
1002
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.119
So I mean, if I would have connected with him,
1003
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.679
I want to said something. But I didn't hit him.
1004
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.159
It hits the brown so you're taking your bot hit
1005
00:49:54.239 --> 00:50:00.480
the Bolla's just that's big.
1006
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:02.480
It was in my hand when I walked out. I'm
1007
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:05.320
walking and he's going and I was mad, and he
1008
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:06.679
was yelling and he said he was.
1009
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.960
Gonna burn my kids his house down, cause in my hands, y'all.
1010
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.039
And I was through it and I didn't get did
1011
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:14.239
you throw it or just try to?
1012
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:15.079
I liked with it.
1013
00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:17.039
One time I went to hit him and I like
1014
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:21.880
stopped myself and put put it back down when he
1015
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:22.480
got walking.
1016
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.199
Now I want to hit him again, don't I put.
1017
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:24.519
It back down.
1018
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:27.679
And then like the last time I went to and
1019
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:32.119
I just kind of like tossed it cause I not violent.
1020
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:34.000
No, I don't think it so wrong.
1021
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.159
Not a violent person. I never husband. I don't like vine.
1022
00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:40.880
But so bed was did they have the right when
1023
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:44.039
you exided when you got went outside or w did
1024
00:50:44.039 --> 00:50:44.599
you guys walk?
1025
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.079
He walk in. He said he was gonna burn like
1026
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:48.360
his house down, And that.
1027
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:56.000
Hit a whole another level of madness, Cause, yeah, you
1028
00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:58.760
can break the windows and you can tell me anything
1029
00:50:58.840 --> 00:50:59.599
you want about me.
1030
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:03.800
You don't bring a bring, but I've run your home
1031
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:04.400
in a two year old.
1032
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:05.239
They didn't do anything.
1033
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.280
Don't tell me you're gonna bring my house with them.
1034
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:09.760
And I cause that's where I.
1035
00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:15.320
Lost it for a few minutes, and I just fucking
1036
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.280
did did you just h try.
1037
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.679
To row I break somewhere?
1038
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:21.920
I did.
1039
00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:22.679
I didn't own it.
1040
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:26.079
That's worked like the first time. I went like, that's
1041
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.719
not like n I brought it back down and held
1042
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:31.280
it with me. Yeah, and I got yelling and screaming,
1043
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:32.480
and I did it again and all.
1044
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.440
No, not like that, I'm gonna do that. What was
1045
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:37.280
it yelling at? Screaming?
1046
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:42.880
You're coming home with me, You're mine, You're always gonna
1047
00:51:42.960 --> 00:51:46.639
be my girlfriend, this, this, and this.
1048
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:50.039
If you're not coming home with me, I'm gonna kill Austin.
1049
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.480
I'll burn your house down. Here A lot no toys
1050
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:56.480
about to come back to me. So I went to
1051
00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:59.639
grab it again, like I went to swing it, and
1052
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:01.840
I got like rake your bid and I just dropped
1053
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:03.000
it in my head.
1054
00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:05.440
I just dropped it.
1055
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.000
I think it broke okay, cause I I heard it.
1056
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.280
And then that's when he went to swing.
1057
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:14.440
On me and like, yeah, so one day you guys
1058
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:16.079
were walking and then a second time.
1059
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:20.840
Yeah, okay, but I never hit him. That did him?
1060
00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:24.239
Make sure I never hit I wanted to scare him. Yeah,
1061
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:25.199
I wanted him to leave.
1062
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:28.920
I didn't have him.
1063
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:38.119
I wanted to. I really wanted to. I'm not gonna
1064
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:41.119
lie on everything inside of me. I wanted to and couldn't.
1065
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.960
I tried to, and I couldn't bring myself to do it.
1066
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.519
So not to me, Parson, What were your positions when
1067
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:49.719
you got towards the entrance? Where were you guys standing?
1068
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:50.159
Where was he?
1069
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:50.800
Where were you?
1070
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.119
It's interesting that they're talking about Riley chasing Michael, but
1071
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:59.039
in the entire thirty minute interrogation so far, she hasn't
1072
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:02.960
once brought it up, and yet she claims she's not
1073
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.079
a mean person at first, after.
1074
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.159
Like his man hit me, I did like throw him
1075
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:11.000
over a little bit, just to we did.
1076
00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:12.800
That's when I said, we did like go over the
1077
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:13.719
car a little bit.
1078
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.760
Yeah, because I throw the little star get off of me. Yeah,
1079
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:19.679
and we like went over to the car a little bit.
1080
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.679
I slapped him, not Art on the shoulder, okay, and
1081
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.000
then that's with him and Austin did the.
1082
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:28.800
Thing.
1083
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:49.760
I didn't get a motor. That's normal. So the videos
1084
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:53.039
still not necessarily as did.
1085
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.039
That's that's all I remember.
1086
00:53:56.760 --> 00:53:57.679
I'll be honest with you.
1087
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.719
That's what I'm telling you. Completely own her person that.
1088
00:54:02.079 --> 00:54:08.320
Yeah, the video shows you Michael walking away from the house,
1089
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.599
You kind of following him, and he's kind of backing
1090
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:14.960
up from you as you're swinging the bomb at him.
1091
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:18.760
Then he takes off running. You take off following him.
1092
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:24.840
Okay, in this exact moment, she realizes her secret was
1093
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:25.880
caught on camera.
1094
00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:35.480
Would you guys get over the video continue? Okay, you
1095
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:39.360
guys get up against the car. If you're swinging on
1096
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:44.639
him quite a bit. I don't remember not him swinging
1097
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:45.679
on you at all.
1098
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:49.800
I don't know that, not him grabbing you nothing.
1099
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.960
I do remember him grabbing you, though, Okay, I do
1100
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:54.840
know when.
1101
00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:55.719
I get that way.
1102
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:57.760
I mean because your arms are like.
1103
00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.760
At him, right, Yeah, that's that when he grabs you.
1104
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:05.880
Yeah, okay, I don't have a black how Yeah, so
1105
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:06.719
why when.
1106
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.039
My kids are here? Is why want I black?
1107
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:09.719
How Yeah?
1108
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:13.679
And I it's totally natural, don't mean in there a
1109
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:14.719
lot of questions right now.
1110
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:19.039
Here's where you need to worry about you and your kids.
1111
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:20.599
I can Michael's death.
1112
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.719
Oh, I guess.
1113
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:35.199
That's why we need to take him in and and
1114
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:36.719
and really think about this.
1115
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:49.239
And right now, like I said, I I wanna we'll
1116
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:50.800
go over this again. I'll give you a second to
1117
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:52.880
think about it in process. I know I just told
1118
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:54.679
you a lot, and that's why I wanna know. I
1119
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:57.079
I really need to know the the truth about everything
1120
00:55:57.159 --> 00:55:59.760
that was said, everything that happened, because if this could
1121
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:04.639
have an argument between you would wife all that went
1122
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.119
too far went off the team over that. Yeah, you
1123
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.960
were even even if you were just touching her head
1124
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:13.639
at him that I can understand that that happens, but
1125
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:16.440
I don't the way it looks on the video with
1126
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:18.559
what you're telling me is not the same thing, which
1127
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:19.719
makes it look like you're lying.
1128
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.519
I'm not trying to Oh I don't.
1129
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:23.559
I mean, I'm find the taint.
1130
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:32.880
But I's why you know you're completely soberly.
1131
00:56:35.559 --> 00:56:39.480
There was a gun involved, and even if death seemed unlikely,
1132
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:42.760
there should have been at least some concern for seriously
1133
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:46.320
injuring someone close to her, like in many cases, her
1134
00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.760
tears could be more for herself, mourning the luxury and
1135
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:54.280
freedom she's about to lose. This is Riley's reality. Now,
1136
00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:56.920
let's take a look at Austin's reaction.
1137
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:02.519
Just got back from over there, and they were, uh,
1138
00:57:03.719 --> 00:57:06.800
you were collected, you know, different evidence of videos and
1139
00:57:06.920 --> 00:57:10.079
stuff like that, and so but uh, coming back a
1140
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:10.519
little bit.
1141
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:15.360
The phone that you had on you, Uh, you called
1142
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:18.599
nine one one on you, okay, and did it dial?
1143
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:20.239
I'd pretty sure it did.
1144
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:24.119
You my home works, okay, Okay, can I get the
1145
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:25.840
pass code of that so that I can verify the
1146
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.519
nine one one call if you don't like some of
1147
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:33.440
my pat uh partners. Just got back and there's video
1148
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:37.239
surveillance at the few of those.
1149
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:43.239
Trailers right along that partway. Were you aware of that? Okay?
1150
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:48.760
Specifically there's one, uh video surveillance system right in front
1151
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:52.079
where you guys were at, and your neighbor also has
1152
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:52.960
videos for balance.
1153
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:59.679
Alright, This is the exact moment Austin realizes he's been
1154
00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:04.440
caught on camera. No less. Up till now, he had
1155
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:08.119
no idea that his actions were being recorded. At this point,
1156
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:11.920
any attempt to modify or alter his story would be futile,
1157
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:17.119
as the footage presents undeniable evidence. Lying now would only
1158
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:18.079
make matters worse.
1159
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.119
So I'm watching the video surveillance, some of its video
1160
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:28.199
surveillance has audio whether it to okay, and you know,
1161
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.039
I'm watching this video surveillance, and and the things that
1162
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:33.679
you're telling me. A lot of it adds up, right,
1163
00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:37.280
But there are a few things that aren't okay.
1164
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:49.519
Like Michael was leaving, leaving I didn't know he was.
1165
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.639
Michael was walking away. He was walking in the direction
1166
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:56.000
of Braddy's mom's house where he was. So he's he's
1167
00:58:56.159 --> 00:59:05.639
walking away and passes that yah, and Riley chases him down. Okay, right,
1168
00:59:05.800 --> 00:59:09.800
So Riley's chasing him down, and she starts swinging on
1169
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:15.000
him something fierce, and she's she's going.
1170
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.079
To town, alright.
1171
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:20.039
And at this point, I see you coming up, okay,
1172
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:23.840
got the gun in your hand, alright. But he's backed
1173
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.760
up against the car. He can't go anywhere.
1174
00:59:26.239 --> 00:59:28.440
He was in the middle of the street, Officer I.
1175
00:59:28.840 --> 00:59:30.960
At at that point, or at a little bit of
1176
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:31.559
layer point.
1177
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:36.400
But he's backing up alright.
1178
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:40.559
And then alright, you know, she breaks away a little
1179
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:45.719
bit and you come toe to toe with him, and
1180
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:47.679
you guys are in in the middle of the street,
1181
00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:49.400
not by the car, in the middle of the street.
1182
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:54.239
You guys are toe to toe, almost like chest bumping.
1183
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:57.960
I was just squawking at each other. Yeah, we were
1184
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:00.000
yelling at each other. But I wasn't getting in his face.
1185
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.440
I was trying to get righty to.
1186
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:02.880
Leave him a woman him go home.
1187
01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:06.480
Then, and I I'm I'm going off of I know
1188
01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.360
you you know what I'm saying, and I'm I'm interpreting.
1189
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:12.639
And like I said, you know, a lot of the
1190
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:15.519
stuff you're telling me adds up. But when I see
1191
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:17.599
stuff like that, it it's I have to interpret it
1192
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:21.679
in a different way. And so I mean, you guys
1193
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:26.119
come toe to toe and you're squawking each other, alright,
1194
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:33.000
and you know, he takes a pop at you, alright,
1195
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:38.679
and then raise the gun up boh, right in the
1196
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:39.519
he right in the face.
1197
01:00:43.719 --> 01:00:44.000
Alright.
1198
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:48.239
And see here here's what I'm thinking. Just you know, uh,
1199
01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:52.320
watching that video, Austin. Okay, here here's the thing alright.
1200
01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:01.960
At at at that point, okay, why did you decide.
1201
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:08.519
To use your firearm just didn't register at the time.
1202
01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:13.440
I was scared and I acted. I mean because you
1203
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:16.400
you've told me that you've been in fights before, okay,
1204
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.159
A and and and here's the thing. We've all been
1205
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:24.360
in fights before, okay that you know, Detective Blair, myself, you,
1206
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.000
we've all been in f fist.
1207
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:27.519
Fights before, alright.
1208
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:33.960
But at this point, right, you know, it rose to
1209
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.039
a level of you, you where you introduced a firearm
1210
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:42.679
to you know, uh, a basic fight, I know. And
1211
01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:46.079
and let me and h and hear me out because
1212
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:48.559
I I I've seen this quite a bit. I've sat
1213
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:50.519
down with quite a few people, you know, been in
1214
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.840
your situation. I talked to him, alright, and I know
1215
01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:56.239
that there are good people out there, and you seem
1216
01:01:56.320 --> 01:02:01.079
like a good family man. It's just what I, oh, kid,
1217
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:05.519
And I think if at that point there was a
1218
01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:11.960
level that had risen up in you, okay, that you
1219
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:16.559
just wanted this to stop. You just you know what, Michael,
1220
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:21.079
you know what, he had sex with your your your girlfriend,
1221
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:27.760
and you just wanted him to stop and be out
1222
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:37.760
of your life. But when you raise a gun up,
1223
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:46.320
you said, you know gun safety, right, yeah, dude, And
1224
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:50.119
so you can agree with me that I mean by
1225
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:54.079
by you in Radley chasing down the street after him
1226
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:59.360
as he's trying to flee. All right, that's there's that's right.
1227
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.480
At that point, there's no threat to you or Riley
1228
01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:06.840
or your family or your home. There's no threat at
1229
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:12.760
that point. There's no immediate ineminent threat there. And so
1230
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:15.159
there's only one thing that I can think of is
1231
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:19.199
that it's just in you. You've been dealing with this
1232
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:24.199
asshole for two weeks, all right, he's slept with your wife,
1233
01:03:24.599 --> 01:03:28.039
and now he's coming back around to you know, bother
1234
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:32.159
you and your wife. It just wanted to be listen,
1235
01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:38.639
be done with it, all right. It's just something in
1236
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:46.480
that momentary one second, because afterwards you stand over him,
1237
01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:55.079
look at him several seconds, did you say anything?
1238
01:03:57.079 --> 01:03:59.960
I didn't know what to do, and then you slowly
1239
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:00.800
walk away.
1240
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:06.840
To call nine one one. Well, Austin's initial story was
1241
01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:10.960
riddled with inconsistencies. At least he's now facing the truth.
1242
01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:12.760
Unlike his partner Riley.
1243
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.079
My biggest concern is I don't want this looking like
1244
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:18.440
you're covering something up a murder.
1245
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:21.440
I'm I'm gonna gonna need to really take a second,
1246
01:04:22.199 --> 01:04:26.079
think about what happened, and be completely honest with me,
1247
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:29.519
because everything I'm asking you I already pretty much had
1248
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:30.079
the answers to.
1249
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:32.880
I just need to hear your accounts of it.
1250
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.519
He's screaming and yelling, and then he's screaming and yelling
1251
01:04:36.599 --> 01:04:42.920
at Boston, telling Austin to shoot him, Austin to shoot him,
1252
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:43.519
to kill him.
1253
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:45.440
Not a few times he said, want to go down
1254
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.559
and just find me, come get these ones?
1255
01:04:50.599 --> 01:04:55.039
What does that mean? From these walks ones? Oh yeah, okay,
1256
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:02.320
yelling that. He came back to the window and started
1257
01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:05.159
yelling at me some more. And that's when I walked outside.
1258
01:05:07.519 --> 01:05:09.280
I think when I walked outside, it is when he
1259
01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:13.519
started walking away. And at that time, my boss just
1260
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:15.000
going to my mom's.
1261
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:17.400
I just I just wanted to go out and.
1262
01:05:17.519 --> 01:05:18.199
To go with my mom.
1263
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:21.280
And didn't he realized that first. He was going that
1264
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.559
late until he started yelling at me. And he's yelling
1265
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:25.400
about learning.
1266
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:26.840
The house down with the kids and.
1267
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:31.239
Yelling at don't even know while I remember something. He
1268
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:32.480
was gonna burn my get.
1269
01:05:32.400 --> 01:05:36.880
This out stone. When I saw him at him, I
1270
01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:39.920
stopped myself from handing. You might have learned to love
1271
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:43.320
him and they have. I have loved him as a boyfriend,
1272
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:46.519
especially herself did love me as my best.
1273
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:55.239
Friend cause I didn't had him with it, so how
1274
01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:55.920
that we I.
1275
01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:57.079
You remember letting it go.
1276
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:01.960
Because it at almost hit him and I was scared,
1277
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:04.280
you know, So I let him go and I dropped
1278
01:06:04.360 --> 01:06:08.679
the rope. And I think after that, like after I
1279
01:06:08.840 --> 01:06:11.639
did that, my hands kept going after I dropped.
1280
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:14.400
It, and I think I hit not an accident.
1281
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:20.599
I don't uh hundred percent sure is everything bought me.
1282
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:26.960
And it felt like he hit me, so I hit him.
1283
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:28.639
I tried to hit him.
1284
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:33.320
I don't hit that hard, Okay, I tried, and I
1285
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:36.280
don't felt about how I felt him at.
1286
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:37.400
Me again and.
1287
01:06:39.079 --> 01:06:45.599
I stopped and I turned around. I turned back and
1288
01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:47.920
I saw him had off the pains that I just
1289
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:51.039
turned around again and I heard the.
1290
01:06:51.079 --> 01:06:54.679
Punchot and I screamed like as it was hard. I
1291
01:06:54.760 --> 01:06:58.760
screamed and I tried like that and I just screamed.
1292
01:07:00.360 --> 01:07:02.639
Ran back to the house, scream and I told crime
1293
01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:06.119
to call that one one. At first I started my
1294
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:07.159
car and then all that I.
1295
01:07:07.159 --> 01:07:10.320
Can gain go anywhere, I just watch I can't go anywhere.
1296
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:14.079
Didn't even my kids probably still is the.
1297
01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:18.000
Ignition of my car out this auto backwards, got out
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01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.800
of my car, said Austin, Well.
1299
01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:22.800
You're gone down on the porch and I'll walked out
1300
01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:23.440
there with you.
1301
01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:31.639
He's crying all the time. He got scared, said he ever.
1302
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:34.360
Thought he could do something something like that's quite as soon.
1303
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:35.199
As he hit him, he had to.
1304
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:40.239
And this single clip you'll witness the Riley's emotional range
1305
01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:45.280
in real time. Tears, subtle humor, calculated acts, and a
1306
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.559
disturbing sense of self importance.
1307
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:50.079
What do you think he had to?
1308
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:52.559
Why do you still back shove him away?
1309
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:54.079
Why do you go down there in the first place?
1310
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:55.719
Cause I was down there?
1311
01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:02.119
Have you ever hit someone me?
1312
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:08.599
Yeah? Yeah, I I which no in the reason I
1313
01:08:08.719 --> 01:08:09.920
happened a few fights.
1314
01:08:11.199 --> 01:08:12.480
So if you were to get in a fight with
1315
01:08:12.599 --> 01:08:14.599
somebody and then someone shock you because.
1316
01:08:14.360 --> 01:08:17.800
You hit somebody at that I mean, if okay, if I.
1317
01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:22.359
If I was not fighting this girl and she just
1318
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:24.399
walked up to me and hit me in the face,
1319
01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:27.439
and I had a gun, I'm.
1320
01:08:27.279 --> 01:08:27.800
Not gonna lie.
1321
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:29.600
I probably wouldn't shoot her cause I don't even like
1322
01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:34.359
to hold guns, cause that's not Yeah, my skill set.
1323
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:38.399
I am very clumsy, not at all.
1324
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:40.479
I probably not right for me to even have a
1325
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:41.359
gun in my own.
1326
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:42.800
You know, I probably not even right for me to
1327
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:43.520
have a beady.
1328
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:43.920
Done in my hand.
1329
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.600
Tell me all often and it's done you It sounds
1330
01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:47.840
like you have a gone with them all the time
1331
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:48.239
he does.
1332
01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:52.039
Does he shoot? Could he shoot the range? Okay, he's
1333
01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:55.119
taking it to the range twice? Okay? Did he always
1334
01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:55.800
have it with them?
1335
01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:58.680
No? Would go with all a lot of times when
1336
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:00.119
you and.
1337
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.720
He goes out, like if we go out to the
1338
01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:06.800
park with the kids, he has a open carriers us
1339
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:07.479
hadnt see?
1340
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:09.079
Yeah, well go with the kids.
1341
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:11.279
He hasn't it is he? I didn't if he was
1342
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:12.880
a fella, did the namble to get it.
1343
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:14.920
Or now I fell in his am? His gun's a
1344
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:18.479
legal girl like his name? Okay, bat open carry or
1345
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:18.920
something like that.
1346
01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:20.640
Yeah, an open carrier a logic.
1347
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:23.720
I don't know about gud mothers. Yes, but.
1348
01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:29.319
I mean, honestly, if I if I had uh big
1349
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:32.560
enough ball steven but have gone in my hand along
1350
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.880
with it as something girl, that was okay.
1351
01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:38.800
I mean if I was a dude and.
1352
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:47.479
As a uh my kids's mother hit dude, saw him
1353
01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:50.239
hit her back. I probably would wanted to shoot him
1354
01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:50.680
right then.
1355
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:53.840
But that's just an anger thing.
1356
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:56.880
That's just uh, that's my kids's mom.
1357
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:57.760
Yeah, oh a spot.
1358
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:01.239
Now you don't have a girl right now. As soon
1359
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:04.960
as he would've hit me up, probably would have done
1360
01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:05.640
the same thing.
1361
01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:06.920
And that's why I just wanted to ask.
1362
01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:11.359
I just wanna I don't like them, Yeah, like I
1363
01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:13.720
liked them for the fact of Okay, you had it
1364
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.560
so if so breaksin, you had.
1365
01:10:16.479 --> 01:10:19.479
It to protect me and my kids if we're out,
1366
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:21.079
and so I tried to do something, you know that
1367
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:22.479
to protect me and my kids.
1368
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:25.600
What I tell myself is I don't like them.
1369
01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:30.720
Another person, adults, how long if you and Michael been friends,
1370
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:37.800
didn't did you meet? Did you meet Michael Drew Austin?
1371
01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:40.239
Cause they were friends, okay, and then you guys got
1372
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:41.279
really close as well.
1373
01:10:41.479 --> 01:10:43.520
He was over at our house or sing that, Oh
1374
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:44.119
see you guys.
1375
01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:46.600
You're all just pretty much he friends to both of you.
1376
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:48.439
Guys, right, you were all the best friends.
1377
01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:50.840
But until she meet, I know she did.
1378
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.359
About me and his girlfriend had him.
1379
01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:57.720
In the face. Who's it, Michael? Okay, friend had so
1380
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.439
he grow up with her. I grew up with Austin kind.
1381
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.359
Of yeah, cl cause we were best friends, you everything
1382
01:11:04.399 --> 01:11:05.439
the best two weeks ago.
1383
01:11:06.239 --> 01:11:07.640
You know how to be there for each other, your
1384
01:11:07.680 --> 01:11:09.239
mom were you?
1385
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:12.880
I mean, is are you don't feel free of Michael?
1386
01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:14.399
I mean if you ever made if you ever put
1387
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:16.720
you in a position where you were that it was
1388
01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:17.600
a few times.
1389
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:24.079
Like I have a life. I'm only twenty, I have friends.
1390
01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:28.439
I do not like to be up by a significant others.
1391
01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:31.159
But all the time when or something I can't Yeah,
1392
01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:33.239
couldn't even do it with Boston, I went. But have
1393
01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:35.359
I literally good with my mom's every day cause.
1394
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:38.680
I can't even Yeah, well, like your head types it
1395
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:42.760
back like plain that hides Gramma dropped them off at
1396
01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:45.720
my house, freaked out on me when I was at
1397
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:46.319
my mom's.
1398
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:49.840
Yeah, after an hour and when you staying I'm sorry,
1399
01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:51.479
he stopped yelling at me.
1400
01:11:52.079 --> 01:11:55.279
It was all good. That stuff makes me nervous. I'm
1401
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:56.800
not a fan. Like I told you earlier, I'm not
1402
01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:57.800
a fan of yelling.
1403
01:11:58.079 --> 01:11:58.239
Yeah.
1404
01:11:58.359 --> 01:11:59.960
Have you ever been you Michael?
1405
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:04.359
No, never had any had he ever get ausset that?
1406
01:12:04.520 --> 01:12:04.880
I don't know?
1407
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:07.800
Okay, but you've never been around and you've been around
1408
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:10.640
sounds like quite a bit has been bad enough.
1409
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:12.359
He was in my car.
1410
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:16.159
Uh, I wanted to go out on my friend. It
1411
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:19.600
is if he didn't like her, is not that's not true.
1412
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:21.680
You know, like sometimes like girls.
1413
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:24.760
But I don't like this right my friend?
1414
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:31.800
And he started freaking out, start headbutting by dash in
1415
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:32.439
my car.
1416
01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:35.399
But never you hitting it?
1417
01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:38.119
No, okay, acted like he had told me he really
1418
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:39.000
wanted to hit me.
1419
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:42.000
I did that. No, never happening.
1420
01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:44.760
So you've never I mean you you were more concerned
1421
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:47.920
s whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong, You're considered more
1422
01:12:48.079 --> 01:12:52.239
just his behavior, not violence, tr violence towards me, just
1423
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:54.319
his behavior in general.
1424
01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.840
He has issues like sounds like he has some control
1425
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:00.760
save him.
1426
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:06.600
Free out on his grandma when he was with his
1427
01:13:06.760 --> 01:13:07.560
ex Savannah.
1428
01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:12.199
Actually Savannah called me me and Savannah never had a mom,
1429
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:14.960
but she called me and said, Michael's.
1430
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:17.600
Freaking out, scared. I don't want to call the cops
1431
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:18.079
on him.
1432
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:20.039
But he won't let me leave this house.
1433
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:22.000
Can you come against Can you don't help me out?
1434
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:27.319
I drove over there. You know he's beating out in
1435
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:29.479
the hood of her car, trying to break.
1436
01:13:29.239 --> 01:13:31.359
Her windows, trying to get her out of her car,
1437
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:33.119
screaming at her, yelling at her.
1438
01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:35.600
She just wanted to leave. He would litter leave.
1439
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:37.119
It took me.
1440
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:40.600
I I have to be able to get him to get.
1441
01:13:40.600 --> 01:13:43.840
Off of her car, to let her leave it or go.
1442
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:44.520
To my house.
1443
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:46.279
I didn't even like her.
1444
01:13:46.640 --> 01:13:48.439
Yeah, oh I get it.
1445
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:52.199
So but I knew that he was making me very uneasy.
1446
01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:56.760
So I know he has your girlfriend she beat very uneasy.
1447
01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.000
Absolutely so well.
1448
01:13:59.119 --> 01:14:02.439
Austen is acutely aware of the gravity of the situation.
1449
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:06.359
Riley doesn't seem to realize just how serious it is.
1450
01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:09.000
And so I'm just.
1451
01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:15.279
Saying what we got, what we see in the video,
1452
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:16.760
and I'm trying to enhance the audio.
1453
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:19.119
Right now, it looks like I'm a killer. I know
1454
01:14:19.199 --> 01:14:23.680
what it looks like. But here's here's the thing. Austin
1455
01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:24.840
a right.
1456
01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:28.399
You know to.
1457
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.359
Why not? Why didn't you leave the gun at home?
1458
01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:36.880
Did you want to scare him? Was the main thing.
1459
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:39.520
Yeah, I just wanted him to go. I wanted him
1460
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:42.960
to stop. I wanted rightly to stop. I don't have
1461
01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:46.520
my guns to hurt people. I got into protect and
1462
01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:48.159
keep shit away from my family.
1463
01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:48.560
That's it.
1464
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:54.319
I I'm not a killer, dude, I'm not a family man.
1465
01:14:54.399 --> 01:15:04.319
I got two kids. Sorry, can.
1466
01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:08.079
I'm going to jail?
1467
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:14.800
Bard it? Yeah, I've been going to jailing.
1468
01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:25.319
Yes, is there anything I can do? How long am
1469
01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:26.239
I gonna go to jail?
1470
01:15:26.439 --> 01:15:28.039
Long life?
1471
01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:32.960
If that's that's not for us to determine, okay. And
1472
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:37.199
so that's why you know this isn't like you didn't
1473
01:15:37.399 --> 01:15:38.560
lure him over there?
1474
01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:39.279
Did you know?
1475
01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:42.520
You didn't call him, you didn't have you know, so
1476
01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:47.760
you didn't lure him over. He just he just showed up,
1477
01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:52.279
all right. And and what I'm taking from it is,
1478
01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:54.359
you know, I I take everything and I put it
1479
01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:58.600
into one basket. I analyze it, and I'm going through this.
1480
01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:01.439
I'm looking, let's you're a good family man.
1481
01:16:02.079 --> 01:16:02.359
Okay.
1482
01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.439
However, this guy hit sex with your wife. All right,
1483
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:07.279
you cut him off two weeks ago, and then he
1484
01:16:07.399 --> 01:16:08.159
shows back up.
1485
01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:12.319
All right, You're still pissed at him, but you're just
1486
01:16:12.359 --> 01:16:13.319
trying to chase him off.
1487
01:16:13.960 --> 01:16:17.439
You're trying to chase him off, yes, okay, and then
1488
01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:22.359
when he hits you in that moment, you're it's just
1489
01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:26.680
this guy has been a problem, right, and not even
1490
01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:33.560
thinking about it, just a reaction boom? I mean, is
1491
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:37.399
is that honestly fair to say, yeah, because.
1492
01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:43.880
I mean to cause him any harm. But you didn't.
1493
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:46.119
You didn't lure him there. But in that in that
1494
01:16:46.479 --> 01:16:49.720
minute or in that second right there after, he hits you.
1495
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:55.680
Okay, I get it. I get pissed. I get pissed
1496
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:59.279
when you know somebody hits me, all right, I get.
1497
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:03.279
You can really see the difference in how Austin and
1498
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:08.840
Riley are reacting to the situation. Austin, despite everything, shows
1499
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:12.520
some remorse. It's clear in his body language and tone.
1500
01:17:13.239 --> 01:17:16.720
But Riley is on a different tangent. Instead of showing
1501
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:19.399
remorse and giving herself a chance to get out of
1502
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:24.399
this mess smoothly, she's making things difficult for by endorsing
1503
01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:29.199
her anger. This raises a bigger question was she really
1504
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:33.720
a smart manipulator? If she was, why she making choices
1505
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:36.520
that only tighten the noose around her neck?
1506
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:38.520
So happen?
1507
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:42.479
I mean, were you worried when he showed up your house?
1508
01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:47.279
That when he broke the window? I completely like almost
1509
01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:48.960
what in the full anxiety at hack.
1510
01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:51.439
Because I'm not used to that.
1511
01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:57.199
It's like pull a book on his face, scared like
1512
01:17:57.479 --> 01:18:01.640
I was. Silence is not good, but yelling or it
1513
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:03.000
has been my whole life.
1514
01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:04.880
Scared me.
1515
01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:07.239
I was scared.
1516
01:18:07.319 --> 01:18:08.960
That's why I wanted to go to my mom's cause
1517
01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:09.640
I was scared.
1518
01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:12.000
Why didn't you wait come bim to eat before he
1519
01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:12.560
went or.
1520
01:18:13.319 --> 01:18:14.800
Cause I didn't know if he was leeve or not?
1521
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:17.159
And I kind of just tried to stop paying attention
1522
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:19.479
to it. They didn't wanna hear it because it was
1523
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:22.000
making me work. So it was if I couldn't breathe.
1524
01:18:22.079 --> 01:18:25.319
And I mean, you were not afraid of him enough
1525
01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:27.279
to where you I mean you changed him down to me.
1526
01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:27.840
I him.
1527
01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:29.720
I had a glass thing in like him, and I
1528
01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:31.880
was very mad. He something he was gonna burn like him,
1529
01:18:31.960 --> 01:18:32.640
just high as down.
1530
01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:34.640
Yeah, so you weren't in fear of him. You were
1531
01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:35.800
just more mad at the word.
1532
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:39.439
Here was saying at then at that point. Yeah, but
1533
01:18:39.600 --> 01:18:41.279
then I kind of was afraid of myself.
1534
01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:44.479
I'm not like that, okay, and that's not me.
1535
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:47.159
Yeah that sounds she made me.
1536
01:18:47.399 --> 01:18:49.159
He brought out a bad fight to you that you
1537
01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:50.479
don't I want to see.
1538
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:51.239
I didn't see that.
1539
01:18:51.319 --> 01:18:53.239
I mean since I was like ten years old.
1540
01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:57.640
Yeah, I've tried, you know, buck, were you its ever
1541
01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:01.520
been angry? She did not Why I did you know that's.
1542
01:19:01.439 --> 01:19:05.479
Hi, try to keep that in not to be pretty
1543
01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.520
good at ever think you were at all? I think
1544
01:19:08.600 --> 01:19:09.880
you were just playing a hard.
1545
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:22.319
And were you worried? Were you I mean while you.
1546
01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:24.920
Had Mica over uh, when you were chasing him down
1547
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:26.079
the street and.
1548
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:27.840
When you guys were fighting at the in front of
1549
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:29.520
that car there at the entrance where you were that
1550
01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:30.319
he was gonna kill you?
1551
01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:34.600
Or were you just this way anything he was gonna
1552
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:34.920
hurt me?
1553
01:19:35.439 --> 01:19:36.560
That is given.
1554
01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:40.479
I not fray to that.
1555
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:42.520
Okay, I'm never worried that.
1556
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:45.039
Anyone's going but maybe because I know at some point
1557
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:47.399
in my life to diet and no guts.
1558
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:52.199
Just sat to hide her is internal card that's gonna
1559
01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:53.199
stop what it wants.
1560
01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:54.880
What would focus I hit the actions?
1561
01:19:55.079 --> 01:19:57.000
Was he doing anything that made you feel like you
1562
01:19:57.159 --> 01:20:00.359
remember people say he was w Can.
1563
01:20:00.319 --> 01:20:02.960
It mean like you just look at if any cut
1564
01:20:03.119 --> 01:20:07.720
like butting on his look when this like his hands
1565
01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:08.520
were going and.
1566
01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:13.239
I just PSI were you injured at all?
1567
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:17.039
That lad hurt a little bit, But I already have
1568
01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:20.680
a bad meme for what used to play football, No for.
1569
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:21.439
What it hurts from.
1570
01:20:22.039 --> 01:20:25.079
But I think it popped out of place. I think
1571
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:26.239
we went over the car.
1572
01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:29.720
Okay, it just popped on But it wasn't anything from
1573
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:32.039
when he usually swung in a hit your cheek.
1574
01:20:32.520 --> 01:20:35.760
That okay, I don't I have gotten head in the face.
1575
01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:38.319
What other that head?
1576
01:20:38.439 --> 01:20:40.199
Look, he wasn't doing anything. That was.
1577
01:20:42.239 --> 01:20:44.760
When he went to hit me. But you don't need
1578
01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:46.279
to hit I didn't know.
1579
01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:47.079
Okay.
1580
01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:51.520
You can see that this isn't the first time Riley
1581
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:55.920
has been involved in the conflict. Wow, accidents happened is
1582
01:20:55.960 --> 01:20:59.800
a common excuse. The more important observation would be why
1583
01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:02.600
these incidents seem to occur around Riley.
1584
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:05.239
Oh do you have I mere you.
1585
01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:08.720
A probation, parole? Any one's warrants right now, A long
1586
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:11.199
probation okay, as a bench for what.
1587
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:13.760
You got in a fight?
1588
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.119
It where Okay, the girl hit me with.
1589
01:21:16.199 --> 01:21:20.840
A box, so I picked rup. I'm interested to pick drup.
1590
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:25.600
Are from Okay, seuse you got a warrant right now though, whereat.
1591
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.880
The cot the cop that I was in the our list,
1592
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:30.079
so that they weren't picking.
1593
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:33.159
On the bench warrants okay, so that they weren't gonna
1594
01:21:33.199 --> 01:21:35.359
take me. Okay, I'm gonna check im. I don't wanna
1595
01:21:35.399 --> 01:21:38.239
promise you that I yeah, but I'm gonna check on
1596
01:21:38.359 --> 01:21:40.000
it for you cause I don't.
1597
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:42.439
Wanna lie to you. You beg him, we've been on
1598
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:44.359
I'm not gonna lie here, and I'm trying to just
1599
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:44.760
get you.
1600
01:21:45.159 --> 01:21:45.880
My head's just go.
1601
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:46.279
Yeah.
1602
01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:49.159
Absolutely, But like I said, that's why right now you
1603
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:50.319
are You're not trigly.
1604
01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:52.359
Right now you are on a custody So that's why
1605
01:21:52.399 --> 01:21:55.000
I wanna make sure you you understood your rights and
1606
01:21:55.159 --> 01:21:57.039
that everything that There's just a lot, a lot that
1607
01:21:57.199 --> 01:21:58.880
happened right that I really you.
1608
01:21:58.960 --> 01:21:59.960
Really needed to work out.
1609
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:02.960
It's important to note that while Riley may have been
1610
01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:07.319
the catalyst or mastermind behind the situation, she didn't pull
1611
01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:12.560
the trigger. Austin did so. Despite Riley's manipulative role, the
1612
01:22:12.640 --> 01:22:17.199
blame largely falls on Austin. Now, pay attention to Austin
1613
01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:20.439
and Riley's behaviors when they're left alone in the room.
1614
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:24.399
Their reaction and isolation might reveal more about their true
1615
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:27.319
feelings than any words they've said so far.
1616
01:22:30.800 --> 01:23:31.359
Fuck m.
1617
01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:39.399
Now everything boils down to one crucial question. Did Austin
1618
01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:42.039
plan this on his own or was he just a
1619
01:23:42.159 --> 01:23:43.680
puppet in Riley's game?
1620
01:23:45.479 --> 01:23:46.239
Or that he came over and.
1621
01:23:46.279 --> 01:23:48.399
Broke your window. But this is your your best friend
1622
01:23:48.439 --> 01:23:52.479
for five years, you said, brother, this is a betrayal
1623
01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:57.159
beyond any comparison that he would do this to you.
1624
01:23:59.279 --> 01:24:01.720
That he would say with your girlfriend. I wasn't even
1625
01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:02.600
worried about that.
1626
01:24:03.199 --> 01:24:06.119
Bradley told me if I touched him, if I did anything,
1627
01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:08.720
that I would go about losing my kids.
1628
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:10.239
And I wasn't going to do that.
1629
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:13.399
So I stood my ground, took that shit to the
1630
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:16.399
chin like a man, and held my shit for two weeks.
1631
01:24:16.439 --> 01:24:18.239
I didn't say shit, I didn't talk to him, I
1632
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:21.680
didn't do nothing. I had zero interaction with him.
1633
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:22.680
And and and that's good.
1634
01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:24.359
And like my partner said, you didn't lure him in.
1635
01:24:25.039 --> 01:24:30.960
But those emotions they bottled up and they festered. And
1636
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:34.439
I don't blame you one bit for being angry with him,
1637
01:24:35.520 --> 01:24:38.560
and you chose not to do anything. But I think
1638
01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:41.079
that just the cork popped on that bottle.
1639
01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:44.039
And it came out. And and so sometimes our emotions
1640
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:48.319
get the best of us, and we'd make snap decisions
1641
01:24:49.720 --> 01:24:56.199
based off of those emotions. And we say that that's
1642
01:24:56.279 --> 01:24:59.720
what happened here, a snap decision, not well thought out
1643
01:25:00.840 --> 01:25:06.680
and just a snap decision like that of anger, and
1644
01:25:06.880 --> 01:25:11.159
this happened. Yes, she would agree with me.
1645
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:14.600
There was not premeditated in any way, shape or form, no, sir,
1646
01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:20.000
But you let your anger get the best of you.
1647
01:25:20.159 --> 01:25:24.760
Like my partner said, those bottle up actions, bottle up thoughts.
1648
01:25:28.039 --> 01:25:29.840
Right Yes.
1649
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:37.159
At this point, Austin seems to have bottled everything up.
1650
01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:42.079
He's not responding, showing signs of inner tormoil. While he
1651
01:25:42.359 --> 01:25:46.439
isn't directly blaming, righty, it's clear that her involvement has
1652
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:50.279
placed her in serious trouble. Nonetheless, the truth about his
1653
01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:53.439
role in this might be more complicated than it seems.
1654
01:25:53.520 --> 01:25:56.960
Okay, well, what's what's gonna happen? Is they They just
1655
01:25:57.000 --> 01:25:59.520
wanted to confer you are gonna have to go to
1656
01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:00.560
jail for your warrant.
1657
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:07.239
Okay, so why don't think I'll tell me I love it?
1658
01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:07.600
Man?
1659
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:11.479
I don't know who fools you that or what part
1660
01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:13.720
all that I tell you all. One just wanted to
1661
01:26:13.800 --> 01:26:17.079
tell that they don't they were taking people over.
1662
01:26:18.199 --> 01:26:21.680
Well, so what he was probably telling you is typically
1663
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:22.359
they don't.
1664
01:26:22.239 --> 01:26:24.880
Take people to do They weren't taking today.
1665
01:26:25.119 --> 01:26:27.479
Wore like that.
1666
01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:32.000
But with the circumstance of this might as well get
1667
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:33.600
it taken care of. They'll just go You'll go back
1668
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:37.560
in front of a judge for it tomorrow. Probably it's
1669
01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:38.079
still morning.
1670
01:26:38.119 --> 01:26:39.159
I don't want to hear what.
1671
01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:50.399
All right, and then what else will probably that up
1672
01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:54.000
happening just because of what happened.
1673
01:26:55.239 --> 01:27:00.000
Between you and Michael, You're probably gonna.
1674
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:02.640
Be with assault and battery, which is a kind of
1675
01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:04.399
liquid PASMO probation right now.
1676
01:27:05.760 --> 01:27:07.399
And the reason I'm telling you all this is because
1677
01:27:07.439 --> 01:27:08.760
you've been honest with me, and I want you to
1678
01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:10.439
me to be honest with you. I'm not here that
1679
01:27:10.520 --> 01:27:13.079
there's no secrets here. Any questions you have, I'll answer.
1680
01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:14.920
That's why I'm being up trouble with you about heaving
1681
01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:16.840
to go to jail on your probation violation.
1682
01:27:19.880 --> 01:27:21.640
I don't know yet, Like I've betted here.
1683
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:23.880
My partners have been talking to him, and there's a
1684
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:24.960
lot of work to do on this.
1685
01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:28.720
I mean, this is a very very serious matter, and
1686
01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:30.880
someone lost their life, no matter the reason.
1687
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:33.800
Someone with the loss of life the devastates.
1688
01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:38.039
In the end, both Austin and Riley were arrested for
1689
01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:42.159
the murder of their friend Michael Tripp. Austin Green twenty three,
1690
01:27:42.600 --> 01:27:45.760
fled guilty to second degree murder in February twenty twenty
1691
01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:49.800
three and was sentenced to thirty years in prison. Riley Young,
1692
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:54.319
twenty pled no contest to filonious assault and received a
1693
01:27:54.479 --> 01:27:58.359
much lighter sentence one year in jail and three years
1694
01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:02.960
on probation. Thank you for watching. If you like this
1695
01:28:03.039 --> 01:28:05.520
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1696
01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:08.119
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1697
01:28:08.159 --> 01:28:11.000
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01:28:11.079 --> 01:28:14.039
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1700
01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:19.039
and I'll see you in the next video.