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Jeez that.
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Here one more time. We're gonna coffee up front. Okay,
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same admonishment.
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Let's see.
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Yeah, Kee, we're just gonna cut him up front.
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Okay, my teacher going to.
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Leave this cus on, put this one on your person
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on the cup.
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Of I got.
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You said out? Did you get hurt? Hair cut on?
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That's yea. Oh shure, they're fine.
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Stay with it.
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You got it.
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I if you listen call you haven't ask what or whatever?
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Why any medical tack you can see some guy?
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Do you won't like it?
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Or what do you have.
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You have?
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Okay?
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Take what at this for medical purposes? See your arms
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at it?
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What your arm up there?
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Yeah?
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Yeah?
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The other ones or anything?
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Well that don't think so? Sure?
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Kay?
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If your sisters.
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You had a chat log or Detroit.
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Tad Christmas, you guys get too, sim Yes, that's us.
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We got him.
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speA m.
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The first sight.
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Does you a person stay in there?
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No?
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He can go that time. Brought your water if you
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want something to drink there. Your name is Michael Patterson. Michael,
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my name is Ken Gillingham, and I'm an agent with
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the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation. And you're here at the
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Bowling Green Police Department. I'm gonna turn on a tape
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recorder so that we have a accurate representation of what
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we talk about here tonight. Today's date is Sunday, October
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twenty first, two thousand and seven. The time is now
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approximately two forty five am. President, our agent Ken Gillingham
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with the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation, and Michael Patterson. Mich Patterson.
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I've talked to you, and you do know that this
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tape recorder is being turned on to record our conversation. Yes,
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what's your full.
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Name, Michael Joseph Patterson?
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H And what's your day of birth? What's your home address?
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Hmm?
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What's your SO Security number? How tall are you?
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Five eleven wait, one hundred and ninety five pounds, brown
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hair and hazel blue eyes.
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Married, single, divorced mom going through a divorce now still
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lately married?
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Yeah?
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Man, we're you employed?
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Well nowhere as of the weekend. Well, I worked through
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through private investigation services. As a car was in my wallet.
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I didn't know who that guy was that I was
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talking to, and I didn't give him acurate information. I
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was a police officer.
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Okay, but are you say you I do like.
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Private investigations, okay, through uh lieutenant O'Day from Hebron police lieutenant.
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It's uh just put lieutenant O'Day investigation services. I just
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do that part time right now because I go to
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school up Purdue.
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And what type of private investigations do you do?
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Just confidential? You know, confidential discrete investigations.
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Give me an example, cheating, cheating, span.
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Insurance fraud.
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Workers count frauds that so you're you're not a sworn
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police officer.
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I was fatibran and that went down.
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What happened there, it.
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Was a traffic violation that violated their sp their standard
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standard operating procedures. I Uh, I went out and I
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had I got some blue red lights and I put
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them in my car. I was thrown out a core
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So they dismissed me for that, but it was thrown
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out health of it was that just like a month ago,
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about a month ago, and you have any children?
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No, it was all right. If I call you Michael, Mike,
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what do you go by? Mike Mike? Obviously, if you've
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been in law enforcement in the past, uh, you're probably
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familiar with your miranda warning, your statement of rights and
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you know that before I can ask you any questions.
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I'm required to advise you of your rights, the statement
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of your rights, or you may remain silent, that anything
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that you say may be used against you in a
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quarter or other proceedings. That you have the right to
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consult an attorney before you make any statement or answer
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any question, and you may have your attorney with you
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during the questioning. You may request the court to the
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point attorney for you if you cannot afford to hire one,
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and you may stop the question at any time by
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refusing to answer any further questions or request to consult
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with your attorney. You understand those rights that I ever
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read to you? Yes, okay, I would right there?
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How they did that, that.
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You've had the rights red togain that you understand them.
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And then the second force down here is a waiver
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of those rights, says having me both statement of my
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rights read and explained to me and fully understanding, then
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when I hereby wave these rights at the time is
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now two fifty one am on October twenty first, two
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thousand and seven. And I do this freely, involuntarily, without
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the threat or promise. Do you wanna talk to me
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about why you're here tonight and try to get the
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bottom of this situation.
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I W I don't know if i'd have my attorney
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involved in Ah.
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That's up to you. I like to discuss with you
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why you're here, but that's entirely up to you. I
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discussing you will, okay, if you will, need you to
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also sign right there? Did you get your water open?
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Yeah?
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I got them.
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And one other piece of paperwork to you either the way.
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Obviously you drove a vehicle down here.
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I think, uh was it Caranda.
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What we would like to do, Michael, is do you
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have anything in the car? Weapons?
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This my one forty caliper that was this? Mike gone,
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I've got my permitted. I went over to state Land.
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I probably didn't.
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Well. What we would like to do is get your
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consent to go out there and search the vehicle. If
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there's a weapon in it, we don't need to leave
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it in there so they can break into it or whatever.
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So we would like to get your permission to go
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out there and retrieve anything out of your car that's
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you're not supposed to be in there. Yeah, and your
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car was brought down here at the Bow and Green
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Police Department. It's out back.
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Okay, damn supper?
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And what year is your car? You say two thousand five, yeah,
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Pontiac Grandam.
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Yeah, Grandam GT.
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And what color is it?
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M'ss er.
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Two door, four door, two door.
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That's the only thing I'm finding. There's that weapon, my weapon.
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And I like my school bag, my black bag.
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And what will be in that bag just my s
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just my few school books.
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Uh again, your.
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Your signature right there and then your printed name and
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address underneath that hoe this I won't move for you.
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Like what's your screen name?
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John Raven? John underscore Raven two thousand, mkay?
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And do you know the remember the screen name of
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the female that you were chatting with online? Tatia something
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Tatia underscore pet thirteen.
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I think so?
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Yeah?
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Kay?
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When did you first start chatting online with her? Just
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today today? Remember what time?
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It was?
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Probably seven clocks that are on there if I.
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Tell you, the log reflects about four thirty nine pm
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the afternoon, a little sooner than Were you working today
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when you did that or you were home? Were you
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on a home computer?
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My laptop?
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What type of laptop do you have?
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Teshiba Satellite And it's actually in the.
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Car with me your computer is in the car with yeah, okay, uh,
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and you said she was salute. You have satellite service.
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Satellite wireless is what it is?
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And who's that service through?
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I have Nutgear right there at couch that year that
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YEARN E T G E A R.
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And I know you had a cell phone with you
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when you came into me. Did you chat on it
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on the way down or did you call or talk?
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I don't think I chatted with her.
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An its instant message or anything when you went on
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the way down.
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I think I did. I'd put like call me on there.
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I think that was the only thing I try to
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get hold of her with. I'd track on her and
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then I couldn't get a hold over her, so I
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went to trend some message on my phone and then
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try getting hold of it that way.
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Okay. Is the laptop the only computer that you have
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there at your house? You don't have a desktop or I.
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Have a desktop? You have a I don't even use
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that thing anymore?
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What type of desktop is it?
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I don't even know. It was middle of my wife's.
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Sure, where's it located in the house.
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It's uh, it's right in my second my storeage room.
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Sit down.
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The storage room is inside your house though, Yeah, it's.
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Actually the second bedroom. But we don't we don't have
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anything else besides like crap in that room, all my
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tools and stuff.
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And and you said you were going through a divorce.
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Does uh your wife still live there? Also?
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No, she's moving. She's living with her mom and dad
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in Crown Point.
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Okay, any anyone else living there with you? Do you
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have the animals in the house dog fish? And you
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said it's an apartment?
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Yeah?
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How many bedrooms right in the apart? How long did
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it take you to drive down here today?
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Lit over five hours eleven and to have so.
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That part of what you were saying out the uh
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at the house was true?
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Yeah? And what wa?
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What was your reason for coming down? I d I
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really didn't I WA wasn't going to wasn't gonna watch
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I wasn't.
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Gonna come down here. I wad you do you probably
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see on there on the conversations that I was weary
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of coming down here?
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What what made you come? Right? I mean you you know,
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now's your time to explain your side of the situation.
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I you know, I'll be frank with you. I won't
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ever lie to you. And I expect the same consideration
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and return. And you know, I'm gonna ask you some
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questions that I'd like to have you answer. Why did
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you come down here tonight?
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She said a blow drive or something.
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Yeah, And you in your chats you talk about her
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sucking your dick. Yeah, so you had intentions to to
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at least have oral sex with her.
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Yeah?
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And how did she tell you that she was She said,
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go on fourteen, She's gonna be fourteen February or something,
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I believe, Yeah, and you you knew that wasn't right.
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I knew it wasn't, But yet you came. Do you
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think anything else was gonna happen after you got here?
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Cause let nature take its course.
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I was worried of coming in the house. I drove
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around for a little bit. I almost didn't come in.
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M Have you chatted with other people online before like this?
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No? I mean I've talked to people, have been order,
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but just friends.
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You know. I what what about other other females. I'm
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sure you've chatted with other females, don't Yeah, what what
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would you say would be the next youngest person that
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you've chatted with? Eighteen's youngest eighteen yeah, never would you
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ever meet anyone else in person from your chats?
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One?
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How LONGO was that?
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I've met her a couple of months ago. She's twenty.
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And where does she live?
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She lives in Cocoma. Well right now Logan's Sport with
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her mom and dad.
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In Logan Support.
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Yeah, Logan Sport.
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I'm assuming it's Logan Sport, Indiana.
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Yeah, Logan Sport, Indiana.
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And do you remember what her screen name was?
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God, it's such a bad headache. Really hit me against
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the ground.
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I can't remember or what her real name is? Her
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first name?
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Oh my god?
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Oh man, what is her name?
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When's the last time you chatted with her?
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Just call she called me today? My mind as my hair.
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They tased the crap out and they hit me against
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the floor. I can't well, you ran, I was standing
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there at the door. I don't even know. My mind's
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not here.
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Hop if she if she called you today, I mean
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you had to know. Her name was chat room. That
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was the room, Yeah, except pretty much where you usually chat.
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Yeah, h.
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You said it was about two months.
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Ago, Yeah, pretty close.
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Anyone else.
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Just vaguely that she was the main person I talked to.
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And she the on one one that you met in person? Yeah,
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and how many? How many times have you met with her?
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Twice? I just met her parents the other day.
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So you went to where she was at half far
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his logan's report from just.
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An hour away.
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You met her parents, Mike, have you ever been any
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trouble before other than what you told me earlier with
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the not any of this, the policy violations and and
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you like you said, traffic ticket or something that was.
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The traffic ticket that was just they didn't even turn
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it in with the blue and red lights.
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Back then an author as use of I wasn't supposed
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to have it.
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In my car, my personal car back in three I
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had I had misdemeanor A stupid I'm stupid now missmeanor
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a it was for theft. I got a bank card
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through in the mail and it was all in my information,
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my address and everything they get, you know, the bank,
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Citizens Bank. They gave me a pin code access to
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it all. I went to the ATM because I had
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a savings with them, savings account, but I didn't have
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a checking I thought that was for my savings, but
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I got stupid when I seen the balance. I got
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like twelve hundred I settled with the restitution twelve hundred
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dollars from that.
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And so the card was actually on somebody else's account,
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it was, yeah, it was.
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The account number was to another person's account, but it
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went all to my name and everything to my address
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with the pin number on the card that had my
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you know, my full name Michael Joseph pat Michael J.
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Patterson on it. And that was basically and that was.
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In two thousand three. And you said two thousand what
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was the what was the final results of it?
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Missus mean rae? That was a plea. I completed my
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probation and stuff and.
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Made restitution.
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Yeah, paid all that back.
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Say it was about twel hundred dollars.
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Yeah.
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Were you on the police force then?
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No, that was I just turned twenty one, twenty one,
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twenty or twenty one, and just turn How how long
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were you on the police force?
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Just three months? I did my pre basic with Hebron Police,
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my pre basic law enforcement academy. I did you had
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my weapons qualifications and all that?
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How you spelling heap handcuffs H E B R O
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N And what what were the dates that you were there?
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July to.
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July of O seven or.
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July o seven to the beginning of October, the end
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of August or the beginning of October. Just put the
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end of August. That was two months I was there.
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If it was that July, Oh my mind's my hair?
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Oh God?
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Obviously this is you in the picture here? Who are
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Who are the other people in there with you?
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My brothers standing next to me and my sister and
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then his that's my bruh younger brother. That's his girlfriend there,
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my sister and my older brother.
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Kay, did you bring anything else with you? Like you
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talked about possibly bringing bringing a gift or bringing something.
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I didn't. I don't even That's why when she said that,
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I didn't remember what she was talking about. I didn't
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say I was to.
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Bring anything you You didn't tell her you were gonna
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bring anything.
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I don't think so I can't remember if I d
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I don't think I did.
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Were you planning on spending the night?
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I wasn't planning for staying very long cause I had
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to get up. I had to go to uh possible
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do my group UH project today cause we have a
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midterm presentation tomorrow.
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Group projects By tomorrow you mean Tuesday.
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Sunday like today, we were supposed to go back up
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back to home and then hopefully got together with my
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group to practice our group presentation for the Monday morn
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tomorrow morning.
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Yeah, for what type of class?
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My communications class?
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What year are you in it? Perdue?
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I'm going part time. I only have twenty credit hours,
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so first year it barely be the first year freshman year,
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but just barely because to get a Bashard's degree with
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Perdue up there, I have to have one hundred and
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forty credit hours for four years, so it's barely a
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freshman year.
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The desktop computer that's at your apartment, is there an
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inter net service hooked up to it, or wireless card
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or anything with it? You say, it's an older computer.
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Man, it's an old tank clunk, Michael.
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We're gonna find on your computer when we look at it?
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Is it gonna be a child pornography? No? No, no,
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gonna be any adult pornography?
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Well, there's from one of the chat rooms. I saved
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one picture from maybe two from an older lady she
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had in her little profile thing. It was from a
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older lady. I think she was one of those bots,
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you know, like a pretend person you talked to to
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put that crap in their profile. So I put that
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on there. I think I might have two pictures.
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That's it.
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Okay.
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What about DVDs, VHS tapes.
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Anything like that at the house, like what I have
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dv you know, regular DVDs that I watched movies?
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Right about what I'm talking about. Is any child or
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adult prono nothing like that? Any drugs at your apartment?
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And you said he burns a population of about three thousand.
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Three thousand, that's what they said.
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Yeah, where's that located.
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Well, it's just south southeast of Crown Point about fifteen minutes.
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So it's he's pretty far up up. And then yeah,
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and if I understood, you're right, you came for oral sex.
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That was because she spoke up. She said it, you know,
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she'd if she went in mile.
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Oh my god.
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Well, uh, she she didn't bring it up first though,
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you brought it up first. Ask her if she never
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had a boyfriend? H yeah, has she ever done anything
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with him? Like suckers dick? Would you do me? You
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recall those yes? Okay, speak up because obviously the tape
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recorder can't see you shake your head, all right, and
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you've never done this with anyone else? We're not gonna
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find any any chats on your computer or anything with
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any other underage females. Did you have a webcam that
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you used or anything not gonna be one with the
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desktop either. No, Mike, is there anything else that you
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can think of that you want to tell me right
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now concerning this situation?
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I mean I had any type of thirty person like
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there there's people out there. I knew I shouldn't have
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came down here.
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No, that would you know?
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That would have probably could have been a good idea. Yes,
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and you did say it was a a two thousand
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five Pontiac.
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Yeah. I just bought and I haven't had time to
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over to the licensed branches. I traded into two thousand
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and three Grandam. It might still have my same It
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does still have my same plate on it from three Grandam.
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I just traded the car in on it.
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Okay, where where did you purchase your car?
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This Zer five? Yes, Team Chevrolet in Valparaiso, Team t
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E a N Yeah, Team yet Chevrolet in Valparaiso, Indiana.
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It's about fifteen minutes from the house from the apartment.
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And you traded in a.
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Two thousand and three the Grand damn se.
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And you said you've not You've not changed registration. You've
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not read.
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I was about ready to go this week, coming up
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here probably tomorrow, it's so busy with my midterms. Avenue
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over there now, Yeah.
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Age, do you know who owned the car the two
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thousand and five before you did?
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I didn't find out prior owner. The dealership had possession
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of them, but they sold it to me. But I
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don't know who had it before.
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Are you familiar with the name of No, Well, that's
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the registration that the car is still coming back in. Yeah,
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and you bought it when.
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I can't remember the exact date. It was about two
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weeks ago, two weeks ago, so it was on a
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on Wednesday. That it was on a Wednesday about two
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weeks ago, because my wife and I were getting that
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going at it. My ex wife coming on.
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All right, Sit tight, just half a second and I'll
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be right back.
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H M.
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All right.
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Anything else that you can think of right now, Mike,
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that you wanna tell me concerning this tonight.
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I mean, you guys have discovered in there that happened
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all the.
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Showr you know, I want to make sure that you
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have every opportunity to tell your side of the story,
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or explain anything that you want to explain. I'll sit
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here all night with you if that's what it takes.
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I don't wanna, I don't wanna cut you off.
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Let's screw it up.
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We've we've pretty much covered it.
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I knew I screwed up talking to a girl at
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the age I know I'm not stupid. I don't know
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fucking creed.
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But alright, the time is now approximately three seventeen am.
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I'll be stopping the recording at this time. Alright, Michae,
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what's gonna happen now is you got to have your
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photograph made. It's gonna be done right out here in
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the hallway, and then you'll be taken across the street
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to the Warren County Jail and lodged. The judge will
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sit bond on you on your charge. I'm not that
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familiar with Bowling Green. I don't live here. I don't
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know whether he'll do it this morning, sometime today, or
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whether he'll wait and do it Monday.
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I hope he does.
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I have that the term, my god, do you have
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a home phone number or use use your cell my
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cell my mom? If you can tell them what's your
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cell number, wife number, and you want unless your wife
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is an emergency contact number. All right, let me see
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if they're ready for you out here. H Are you
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all ready for his mugshot? M hm not yet. Okay,
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they're not quite ready for you.
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I'm damn sipper shit.
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I think comes apart of this pancer. God, damn, I
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can't believe they said I ran I stood by the
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door and I see him there.
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I'm lucky.
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I've never been tased with the dim. I tased him
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before today. I never had to do that with here
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when I was about the door.
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You have any la says nicknames any thing? No?
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Yeah, well now it was a guys four angry.
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I like you said your laptop, that Teshiba laptop was
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in your car? Also, yeah, okay, Uh, would you be
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willing to sign a consent so they can look at
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your laptop? In other words, I won't be able to
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verify you say there's no you know, no child pornography
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or anything on that. Uh, we'd like to to verify that.
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Yeah, okay, so.
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I'm just probably about that by now.
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This just states that you're you're giving us consent to
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d uh search a to Sheba laptop, satellite computer, and
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given this permission to myself known to be an agent
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at the Office of Attorney General, which is where the
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pecking reure of investigation is or others acting on you know,
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under my benefit. If you would just sign right there
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and the same thing, print your name and your address,
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you get it. Okay, Mike do you wanna Do you
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wanna go outside and be present while your car's being searched?
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You have that right if you wanna go out and
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watch it.
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Mike can't. It doesn't matter to man.
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Okay, David, he says he's going to be present when
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he's searched.
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I'm so far away, I'll probably be every well.
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God, damn, oh.
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Raze, oh.
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Oh, let's see if they're ready for you yet? You ready?
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You ready for him?
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Yeah?
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If you're alright, Mike going out here, they're gonna take
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your picture?
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Okay, I'm help. Were that ready? What were you gonna
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do the search? Now?
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Where where were you gonna watch?
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Yes? Kay, let me let me find any wanna explain
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side that I won't be taking you outside her now.
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Turning out things.
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About, no way's gonna.
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Hurt you whatsoever.
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We'll do a photo for now.
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We don't wanna hurt me. I wanna hurt you.
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Okay, Well, we're gonna treat you like how it won't
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be treated. But if you try and rhyme right here,
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then we have to treat a little different. I just
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want clear it I before we go outside. I'm not
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trying to scare you.
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Nothing done good so far. Don't don't blow it now.
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Okay, you've already screwed up it all on a little
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sh Okay, I don't think this one. Might make sure
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that we're clear it before when.
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We go outside bothered like babe, he's he won't lie
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to you.
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He's gonna tell you exactly how it is.
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Can't work is? Thenna throws your cuffs.
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They're the Shaff's office. Okay, I won't bring them back.
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I don't know who's but they got the one kid
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to share or so what the other guy? Did you
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get those back to? That owned?
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Huh?
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Do you have a John?
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Uh?
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Okay?
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I get into oh there everybody a fake Chris.
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When I finish this take, everybody starts to taking the camera.
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Do you fadeth out.
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And you need a photo?
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I'll go get it now.
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What you say?
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Boys, as it's a silver grand dad, grand damn GT.
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Do you want.
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I appreciate you being honest with me?
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Yeah?
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There have no reason to say saying there in life?
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Well, I mean, you be surprised what people try to
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tell you.
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Okay, I'm fine, I'm hurting on over leage. Why they
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tell me is that I ran. Did you go anywhere?
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Man?
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It won't be much longer now they'll get those off
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of you.
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What mines? I am here the way to beat against
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the ground.
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Okay, I'm gonna make a christure. That's interesting question, A
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good one, s.
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Right, FLEs right, Yeah, what that you never.
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End oebraty well searching your doll? You would just have
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a seat back in the chair.
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You got a belt on?
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Yeah, okay, I'm gonna hook my hand in your belt.
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Ain't nothing else? Take me down on the back, you belt?
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It is her noon?
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Back happens?
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Is that right?
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Is it ready? What we'll get you take care of?
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Is that a broke all? Uh?
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I'm not gonna leave top yess sir?
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Yes, your.
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Okay, that's fine though. We got it down there and
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they're they're they're headed out to do the search. Alright,
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thank you, brother, bye,
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Jeez that.
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Here one more time. We're gonna coffee up front. Okay,
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same admonishment.
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Let's see.
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Yeah, Kee, we're just gonna cut him up front.
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Okay, my teacher going to.
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Leave this cus on, put this one on your person
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on the cup.
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Of I got.
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You said out? Did you get hurt? Hair cut on?
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That's yea. Oh shure, they're fine.
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Stay with it.
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You got it.
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I if you listen call you haven't ask what or whatever?
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Why any medical tack you can see some guy?
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Do you won't like it?
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Or what do you have.
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You have?
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Okay?
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Take what at this for medical purposes? See your arms
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at it?
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What your arm up there?
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Yeah?
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Yeah?
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The other ones or anything?
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Well that don't think so? Sure?
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Kay?
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If your sisters.
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You had a chat log or Detroit.
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Tad Christmas, you guys get too, sim Yes, that's us.
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We got him.
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speA m.
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The first sight.
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Does you a person stay in there?
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No?
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He can go that time. Brought your water if you
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want something to drink there. Your name is Michael Patterson. Michael,
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my name is Ken Gillingham, and I'm an agent with
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the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation. And you're here at the
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Bowling Green Police Department. I'm gonna turn on a tape
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recorder so that we have a accurate representation of what
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we talk about here tonight. Today's date is Sunday, October
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twenty first, two thousand and seven. The time is now
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approximately two forty five am. President, our agent Ken Gillingham
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with the Kentucky Bureau of Investigation, and Michael Patterson. Mich Patterson.
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I've talked to you, and you do know that this
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tape recorder is being turned on to record our conversation. Yes,
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what's your full.
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Name, Michael Joseph Patterson?
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H And what's your day of birth? What's your home address?
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Hmm?
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What's your SO Security number? How tall are you?
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Five eleven wait, one hundred and ninety five pounds, brown
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hair and hazel blue eyes.
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Married, single, divorced mom going through a divorce now still
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lately married?
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Yeah?
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Man, we're you employed?
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Well nowhere as of the weekend. Well, I worked through
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through private investigation services. As a car was in my wallet.
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I didn't know who that guy was that I was
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talking to, and I didn't give him acurate information. I
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was a police officer.
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Okay, but are you say you I do like.
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Private investigations, okay, through uh lieutenant O'Day from Hebron police lieutenant.
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It's uh just put lieutenant O'Day investigation services. I just
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do that part time right now because I go to
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school up Purdue.
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And what type of private investigations do you do?
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Just confidential? You know, confidential discrete investigations.
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Give me an example, cheating, cheating, span.
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Insurance fraud.
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Workers count frauds that so you're you're not a sworn
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police officer.
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I was fatibran and that went down.
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What happened there, it.
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Was a traffic violation that violated their sp their standard
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standard operating procedures. I Uh, I went out and I
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had I got some blue red lights and I put
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them in my car. I was thrown out a core
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So they dismissed me for that, but it was thrown
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out health of it was that just like a month ago,
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about a month ago, and you have any children?
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No, it was all right. If I call you Michael, Mike,
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what do you go by? Mike Mike? Obviously, if you've
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been in law enforcement in the past, uh, you're probably
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familiar with your miranda warning, your statement of rights and
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you know that before I can ask you any questions.
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I'm required to advise you of your rights, the statement
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of your rights, or you may remain silent, that anything
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that you say may be used against you in a
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quarter or other proceedings. That you have the right to
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consult an attorney before you make any statement or answer
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any question, and you may have your attorney with you
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during the questioning. You may request the court to the
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point attorney for you if you cannot afford to hire one,
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and you may stop the question at any time by
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refusing to answer any further questions or request to consult
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with your attorney. You understand those rights that I ever
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read to you? Yes, okay, I would right there?
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How they did that, that.
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You've had the rights red togain that you understand them.
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And then the second force down here is a waiver
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of those rights, says having me both statement of my
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rights read and explained to me and fully understanding, then
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when I hereby wave these rights at the time is
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now two fifty one am on October twenty first, two
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thousand and seven. And I do this freely, involuntarily, without
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the threat or promise. Do you wanna talk to me
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about why you're here tonight and try to get the
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bottom of this situation.
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I W I don't know if i'd have my attorney
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involved in Ah.
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That's up to you. I like to discuss with you
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why you're here, but that's entirely up to you. I
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discussing you will, okay, if you will, need you to
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also sign right there? Did you get your water open?
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Yeah?
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I got them.
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And one other piece of paperwork to you either the way.
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Obviously you drove a vehicle down here.
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I think, uh was it Caranda.
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What we would like to do, Michael, is do you
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have anything in the car? Weapons?
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This my one forty caliper that was this? Mike gone,
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I've got my permitted. I went over to state Land.
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I probably didn't.
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Well. What we would like to do is get your
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consent to go out there and search the vehicle. If
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there's a weapon in it, we don't need to leave
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it in there so they can break into it or whatever.
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So we would like to get your permission to go
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out there and retrieve anything out of your car that's
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you're not supposed to be in there. Yeah, and your
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car was brought down here at the Bow and Green
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Police Department. It's out back.
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Okay, damn supper?
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And what year is your car? You say two thousand five, yeah,
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Pontiac Grandam.
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Yeah, Grandam GT.
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And what color is it?
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M'ss er.
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Two door, four door, two door.
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That's the only thing I'm finding. There's that weapon, my weapon.
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And I like my school bag, my black bag.
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And what will be in that bag just my s
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just my few school books.
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Uh again, your.
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Your signature right there and then your printed name and
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address underneath that hoe this I won't move for you.
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Like what's your screen name?
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John Raven? John underscore Raven two thousand, mkay?
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And do you know the remember the screen name of
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the female that you were chatting with online? Tatia something
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Tatia underscore pet thirteen.
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I think so?
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Yeah?
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Kay?
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When did you first start chatting online with her? Just
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today today? Remember what time?
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It was?
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Probably seven clocks that are on there if I.
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Tell you, the log reflects about four thirty nine pm
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the afternoon, a little sooner than Were you working today
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when you did that or you were home? Were you
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on a home computer?
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My laptop?
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What type of laptop do you have?
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Teshiba Satellite And it's actually in the.
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Car with me your computer is in the car with yeah, okay, uh,
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and you said she was salute. You have satellite service.
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Satellite wireless is what it is?
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And who's that service through?
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I have Nutgear right there at couch that year that
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YEARN E T G E A R.
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And I know you had a cell phone with you
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when you came into me. Did you chat on it
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on the way down or did you call or talk?
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I don't think I chatted with her.
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An its instant message or anything when you went on
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the way down.
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I think I did. I'd put like call me on there.
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I think that was the only thing I try to
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get hold of her with. I'd track on her and
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then I couldn't get a hold over her, so I
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went to trend some message on my phone and then
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try getting hold of it that way.
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Okay. Is the laptop the only computer that you have
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there at your house? You don't have a desktop or I.
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Have a desktop? You have a I don't even use
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that thing anymore?
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What type of desktop is it?
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I don't even know. It was middle of my wife's.
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Sure, where's it located in the house.
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It's uh, it's right in my second my storeage room.
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Sit down.
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The storage room is inside your house though, Yeah, it's.
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Actually the second bedroom. But we don't we don't have
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anything else besides like crap in that room, all my
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tools and stuff.
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And and you said you were going through a divorce.
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Does uh your wife still live there? Also?
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No, she's moving. She's living with her mom and dad
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in Crown Point.
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Okay, any anyone else living there with you? Do you
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have the animals in the house dog fish? And you
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said it's an apartment?
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Yeah?
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How many bedrooms right in the apart? How long did
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it take you to drive down here today?
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Lit over five hours eleven and to have so.
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That part of what you were saying out the uh
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at the house was true?
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Yeah? And what wa?
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What was your reason for coming down? I d I
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really didn't I WA wasn't going to wasn't gonna watch
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I wasn't.
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Gonna come down here. I wad you do you probably
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see on there on the conversations that I was weary
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of coming down here?
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What what made you come? Right? I mean you you know,
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now's your time to explain your side of the situation.
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I you know, I'll be frank with you. I won't
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ever lie to you. And I expect the same consideration
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and return. And you know, I'm gonna ask you some
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questions that I'd like to have you answer. Why did
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you come down here tonight?
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She said a blow drive or something.
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Yeah, And you in your chats you talk about her
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sucking your dick. Yeah, so you had intentions to to
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at least have oral sex with her.
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Yeah?
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And how did she tell you that she was She said,
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go on fourteen, She's gonna be fourteen February or something,
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I believe, Yeah, and you you knew that wasn't right.
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I knew it wasn't, But yet you came. Do you
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think anything else was gonna happen after you got here?
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Cause let nature take its course.
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I was worried of coming in the house. I drove
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around for a little bit. I almost didn't come in.
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M Have you chatted with other people online before like this?
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No? I mean I've talked to people, have been order,
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but just friends.
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You know. I what what about other other females. I'm
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sure you've chatted with other females, don't Yeah, what what
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would you say would be the next youngest person that
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you've chatted with? Eighteen's youngest eighteen yeah, never would you
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ever meet anyone else in person from your chats?
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One?
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How LONGO was that?
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I've met her a couple of months ago. She's twenty.
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And where does she live?
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She lives in Cocoma. Well right now Logan's Sport with
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her mom and dad.
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In Logan Support.
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Yeah, Logan Sport.
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I'm assuming it's Logan Sport, Indiana.
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Yeah, Logan Sport, Indiana.
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And do you remember what her screen name was?
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God, it's such a bad headache. Really hit me against
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the ground.
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I can't remember or what her real name is? Her
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first name?
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Oh my god?
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Oh man, what is her name?
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When's the last time you chatted with her?
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Just call she called me today? My mind as my hair.
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They tased the crap out and they hit me against
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the floor. I can't well, you ran, I was standing
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there at the door. I don't even know. My mind's
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not here.
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Hop if she if she called you today, I mean
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you had to know. Her name was chat room. That
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was the room, Yeah, except pretty much where you usually chat.
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Yeah, h.
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You said it was about two months.
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Ago, Yeah, pretty close.
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Anyone else.
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Just vaguely that she was the main person I talked to.
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And she the on one one that you met in person? Yeah,
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and how many? How many times have you met with her?
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Twice? I just met her parents the other day.
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So you went to where she was at half far
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his logan's report from just.
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An hour away.
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You met her parents, Mike, have you ever been any
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trouble before other than what you told me earlier with
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the not any of this, the policy violations and and
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you like you said, traffic ticket or something that was.
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The traffic ticket that was just they didn't even turn
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it in with the blue and red lights.
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Back then an author as use of I wasn't supposed
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to have it.
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In my car, my personal car back in three I
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had I had misdemeanor A stupid I'm stupid now missmeanor
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a it was for theft. I got a bank card
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through in the mail and it was all in my information,
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my address and everything they get, you know, the bank,
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Citizens Bank. They gave me a pin code access to
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it all. I went to the ATM because I had
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a savings with them, savings account, but I didn't have
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a checking I thought that was for my savings, but
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I got stupid when I seen the balance. I got
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like twelve hundred I settled with the restitution twelve hundred
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dollars from that.
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And so the card was actually on somebody else's account,
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it was, yeah, it was.
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The account number was to another person's account, but it
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went all to my name and everything to my address
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with the pin number on the card that had my
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you know, my full name Michael Joseph pat Michael J.
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Patterson on it. And that was basically and that was.
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In two thousand three. And you said two thousand what
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was the what was the final results of it?
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Missus mean rae? That was a plea. I completed my
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probation and stuff and.
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Made restitution.
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Yeah, paid all that back.
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Say it was about twel hundred dollars.
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Yeah.
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Were you on the police force then?
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No, that was I just turned twenty one, twenty one,
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twenty or twenty one, and just turn How how long
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were you on the police force?
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Just three months? I did my pre basic with Hebron Police,
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my pre basic law enforcement academy. I did you had
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my weapons qualifications and all that?
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How you spelling heap handcuffs H E B R O
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N And what what were the dates that you were there?
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July to.
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July of O seven or.
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July o seven to the beginning of October, the end
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of August or the beginning of October. Just put the
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end of August. That was two months I was there.
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If it was that July, Oh my mind's my hair?
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Oh God?
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Obviously this is you in the picture here? Who are
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Who are the other people in there with you?
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My brothers standing next to me and my sister and
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then his that's my bruh younger brother. That's his girlfriend there,
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my sister and my older brother.
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Kay, did you bring anything else with you? Like you
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talked about possibly bringing bringing a gift or bringing something.
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I didn't. I don't even That's why when she said that,
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I didn't remember what she was talking about. I didn't
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say I was to.
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Bring anything you You didn't tell her you were gonna
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bring anything.
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I don't think so I can't remember if I d
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I don't think I did.
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Were you planning on spending the night?
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I wasn't planning for staying very long cause I had
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to get up. I had to go to uh possible
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do my group UH project today cause we have a
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midterm presentation tomorrow.
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Group projects By tomorrow you mean Tuesday.
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Sunday like today, we were supposed to go back up
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back to home and then hopefully got together with my
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group to practice our group presentation for the Monday morn
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tomorrow morning.
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Yeah, for what type of class?
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My communications class?
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What year are you in it? Perdue?
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I'm going part time. I only have twenty credit hours,
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so first year it barely be the first year freshman year,
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but just barely because to get a Bashard's degree with
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Perdue up there, I have to have one hundred and
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forty credit hours for four years, so it's barely a
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freshman year.
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The desktop computer that's at your apartment, is there an
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inter net service hooked up to it, or wireless card
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or anything with it? You say, it's an older computer.
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Man, it's an old tank clunk, Michael.
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We're gonna find on your computer when we look at it?
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Is it gonna be a child pornography? No? No, no,
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gonna be any adult pornography?
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Well, there's from one of the chat rooms. I saved
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one picture from maybe two from an older lady she
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had in her little profile thing. It was from a
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older lady. I think she was one of those bots,
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you know, like a pretend person you talked to to
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put that crap in their profile. So I put that
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on there. I think I might have two pictures.
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That's it.
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Okay.
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What about DVDs, VHS tapes.
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Anything like that at the house, like what I have
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dv you know, regular DVDs that I watched movies?
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Right about what I'm talking about. Is any child or
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adult prono nothing like that? Any drugs at your apartment?
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And you said he burns a population of about three thousand.
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Three thousand, that's what they said.
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Yeah, where's that located.
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Well, it's just south southeast of Crown Point about fifteen minutes.
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So it's he's pretty far up up. And then yeah,
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and if I understood, you're right, you came for oral sex.
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That was because she spoke up. She said it, you know,
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she'd if she went in mile.
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Oh my god.
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Well, uh, she she didn't bring it up first though,
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you brought it up first. Ask her if she never
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had a boyfriend? H yeah, has she ever done anything
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with him? Like suckers dick? Would you do me? You
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recall those yes? Okay, speak up because obviously the tape
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recorder can't see you shake your head, all right, and
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you've never done this with anyone else? We're not gonna
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find any any chats on your computer or anything with
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any other underage females. Did you have a webcam that
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you used or anything not gonna be one with the
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desktop either. No, Mike, is there anything else that you
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can think of that you want to tell me right
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now concerning this situation?
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I mean I had any type of thirty person like
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there there's people out there. I knew I shouldn't have
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came down here.
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No, that would you know?
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That would have probably could have been a good idea. Yes,
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and you did say it was a a two thousand
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five Pontiac.
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Yeah. I just bought and I haven't had time to
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over to the licensed branches. I traded into two thousand
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and three Grandam. It might still have my same It
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does still have my same plate on it from three Grandam.
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I just traded the car in on it.
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Okay, where where did you purchase your car?
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This Zer five? Yes, Team Chevrolet in Valparaiso, Team t
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E a N Yeah, Team yet Chevrolet in Valparaiso, Indiana.
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It's about fifteen minutes from the house from the apartment.
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And you traded in a.
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Two thousand and three the Grand damn se.
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And you said you've not You've not changed registration. You've
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not read.
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I was about ready to go this week, coming up
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here probably tomorrow, it's so busy with my midterms. Avenue
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over there now, Yeah.
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Age, do you know who owned the car the two
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thousand and five before you did?
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I didn't find out prior owner. The dealership had possession
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of them, but they sold it to me. But I
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don't know who had it before.
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Are you familiar with the name of No, Well, that's
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the registration that the car is still coming back in. Yeah,
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and you bought it when.
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I can't remember the exact date. It was about two
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weeks ago, two weeks ago, so it was on a
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on Wednesday. That it was on a Wednesday about two
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weeks ago, because my wife and I were getting that
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going at it. My ex wife coming on.
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All right, Sit tight, just half a second and I'll
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be right back.
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H M.
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All right.
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Anything else that you can think of right now, Mike,
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that you wanna tell me concerning this tonight.
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I mean, you guys have discovered in there that happened
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all the.
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Showr you know, I want to make sure that you
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have every opportunity to tell your side of the story,
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or explain anything that you want to explain. I'll sit
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here all night with you if that's what it takes.
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I don't wanna, I don't wanna cut you off.
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Let's screw it up.
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We've we've pretty much covered it.
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I knew I screwed up talking to a girl at
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the age I know I'm not stupid. I don't know
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fucking creed.
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But alright, the time is now approximately three seventeen am.
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I'll be stopping the recording at this time. Alright, Michae,
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what's gonna happen now is you got to have your
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photograph made. It's gonna be done right out here in
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the hallway, and then you'll be taken across the street
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to the Warren County Jail and lodged. The judge will
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sit bond on you on your charge. I'm not that
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familiar with Bowling Green. I don't live here. I don't
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know whether he'll do it this morning, sometime today, or
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whether he'll wait and do it Monday.
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I hope he does.
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I have that the term, my god, do you have
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a home phone number or use use your cell my
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cell my mom? If you can tell them what's your
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cell number, wife number, and you want unless your wife
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is an emergency contact number. All right, let me see
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if they're ready for you out here. H Are you
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all ready for his mugshot? M hm not yet. Okay,
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they're not quite ready for you.
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I'm damn sipper shit.
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I think comes apart of this pancer. God, damn, I
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can't believe they said I ran I stood by the
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door and I see him there.
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I'm lucky.
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I've never been tased with the dim. I tased him
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before today. I never had to do that with here
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when I was about the door.
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You have any la says nicknames any thing? No?
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Yeah, well now it was a guys four angry.
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I like you said your laptop, that Teshiba laptop was
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in your car? Also, yeah, okay, Uh, would you be
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willing to sign a consent so they can look at
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your laptop? In other words, I won't be able to
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verify you say there's no you know, no child pornography
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or anything on that. Uh, we'd like to to verify that.
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Yeah, okay, so.
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I'm just probably about that by now.
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This just states that you're you're giving us consent to
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d uh search a to Sheba laptop, satellite computer, and
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00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.840
given this permission to myself known to be an agent
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at the Office of Attorney General, which is where the
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pecking reure of investigation is or others acting on you know,
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under my benefit. If you would just sign right there
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and the same thing, print your name and your address,
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you get it. Okay, Mike do you wanna Do you
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wanna go outside and be present while your car's being searched?
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You have that right if you wanna go out and
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watch it.
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Mike can't. It doesn't matter to man.
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Okay, David, he says he's going to be present when
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he's searched.
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I'm so far away, I'll probably be every well.
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God, damn, oh.
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Raze, oh.
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Oh, let's see if they're ready for you yet? You ready?
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You ready for him?
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Yeah?
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If you're alright, Mike going out here, they're gonna take
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your picture?
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Okay, I'm help. Were that ready? What were you gonna
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do the search? Now?
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Where where were you gonna watch?
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Yes? Kay, let me let me find any wanna explain
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side that I won't be taking you outside her now.
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Turning out things.
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About, no way's gonna.
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Hurt you whatsoever.
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We'll do a photo for now.
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We don't wanna hurt me. I wanna hurt you.
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00:56:18.920 --> 00:56:21.199
Okay, Well, we're gonna treat you like how it won't
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be treated. But if you try and rhyme right here,
538
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then we have to treat a little different. I just
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want clear it I before we go outside. I'm not
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trying to scare you.
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Nothing done good so far. Don't don't blow it now.
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Okay, you've already screwed up it all on a little
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sh Okay, I don't think this one. Might make sure
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that we're clear it before when.
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We go outside bothered like babe, he's he won't lie
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to you.
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He's gonna tell you exactly how it is.
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Can't work is? Thenna throws your cuffs.
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00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.000
They're the Shaff's office. Okay, I won't bring them back.
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00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:53.519
I don't know who's but they got the one kid
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00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:55.159
to share or so what the other guy? Did you
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00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:56.519
get those back to? That owned?
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Huh?
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Do you have a John?
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Uh?
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Okay?
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00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:06.360
I get into oh there everybody a fake Chris.
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00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:15.719
When I finish this take, everybody starts to taking the camera.
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Do you fadeth out.
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And you need a photo?
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I'll go get it now.
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What you say?
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Boys, as it's a silver grand dad, grand damn GT.
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Do you want.
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I appreciate you being honest with me?
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Yeah?
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00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:38.840
There have no reason to say saying there in life?
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00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:41.800
Well, I mean, you be surprised what people try to
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tell you.
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00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:48.440
Okay, I'm fine, I'm hurting on over leage. Why they
571
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:50.440
tell me is that I ran. Did you go anywhere?
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00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:54.000
Man?
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It won't be much longer now they'll get those off
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of you.
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What mines? I am here the way to beat against
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the ground.
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00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:23.440
Okay, I'm gonna make a christure. That's interesting question, A
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good one, s.
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Right, FLEs right, Yeah, what that you never.
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00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:07.719
End oebraty well searching your doll? You would just have
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00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:08.719
a seat back in the chair.
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00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:27.079
You got a belt on?
583
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.239
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna hook my hand in your belt.
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00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:32.239
Ain't nothing else? Take me down on the back, you belt?
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It is her noon?
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Back happens?
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Is that right?
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00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:48.159
Is it ready? What we'll get you take care of?
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00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:50.079
Is that a broke all? Uh?
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00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:59.159
I'm not gonna leave top yess sir?
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01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:09.960
Yes, your.
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01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:22.840
Okay, that's fine though. We got it down there and
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01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:26.119
they're they're they're headed out to do the search. Alright,
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01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:27.599
thank you, brother, bye,