Leili: Welcome to Integrity Over Scale Podcast. My name is Laylee. I have Emily Blue with me here today. How are you doing, Emily?
Emily Blue: I'm wonderful, Lely. Thank you so much for having me on the show.
Leili: my gosh, it is my pleasure. So we had an opportunity to meet in Moonshot and since then I was very impressed by your pitch and what you were doing and so I would love for the listeners to learn more about you. So tell us more about you.
Emily Blue: So, my name is Emily. I am a mother, first and foremost. I'm an entrepreneur. I have been an entrepreneur longer than I've been a mother. And it's sort of one inspired the other, in essence, to form Maternal Genomics Institute, and that is the project that I'm currently most passionate about. we provide genomic testing for the maternal timeline from psycho health all the way to menopause. Our kind of perfect spot is to s you know, find women before they conceive so that we can ideally optimize their entire conception all the way through postpartum and menopause and beyond.
Leili: Thank you, Emily. And I'm so intrigued by your startup. So I would love to learn more. Can you tell us more about your startup and what you plan to do with this business?
Emily Blue: So it all I I I originally became inspired by this idea. I have worked with women for nearly ten years now. And no, actually twenty twenty six it has been ten years now, officially ten years. I've worked with women and in various different ways. ten years ago I was working with women in recovery, which inspired, you know, I I'm seeing women come They're they're pregnant, they're expecting, and to to understand guiding them through something that was really unknown to me, so I actually did some research and found that there is a specific role for that. It's called you know, being a doula or a maternal care educator. And I actually inspired the recovery center that I was working at at the time to begin a doula program in their facility, which was really amazing to see that. so then, you know, fast forward, I I have become a mother. I'm working with a naturopath. This was in 2025, and she's teaching me the ropes of genomics and DNA testing. And I'm like, how can I apply this to my my history and my work? Time and time again, I've heard women say this phrase through the years: my body failed me. And it it could be applied to Fertility, it can be applied to pregnancy, childbirth, postpartum. Time and time again, women are saying this through all these phases of matriescence. And it it hit me so hard every time to hear a woman say, My body failed me. And so I'm I'm learning about DNA and how unique we all really are. E even just from our parents, from our siblings, we are all very unique. And I found that we could really fill this gap in maternal care and provide individualized care rather than a standard one size fits all.
Leili: Mm-hmm. And you shared a little bit more about the inspiration part and what got you to be interested in it. I would love to know how come genetics, what what intrigued you about the genetic piece of it?
Emily Blue: so I guess at at the end of the day we don't really know what our unique response to certain medications or certain interventions are actually going to be just based on walking into an office. it's that genetic DNA piece that is the missing piece of the puzzle.
Leili: Mm, mm-hmm. And patients when you were working with them, was that something that they were really interested in as well as yourself? That they were expressing that they wish they knew all of that information?
Emily Blue: So actually not at all. The more I educate women on the subject, the more they're like, wow, that actually makes a lot of sense. Like they they've never even really considered that could be such a variant for them. We know we I think we compare ourselves to other people a lot. And especially with social media, we can see these women online, they're sharing how joyful and exciting and wonderful their motherhood experience is. And it's really not the case for all of us and so to have that affirmation that your experience was different because your DNA is different and here's how your body is likely to respond to certain things nutrient depletion etc
Leili: the listeners that I have on this podcast, they're they're men and women. but a lot of course all of them are in the corporate world. And so what you just shared is it's a little surprising to me that women haven't asked a lot of the questions that has to do with genetics. but it also checks out and then you shared the c comparison with Instagram and how we see people and they're they look amazing, pregnant, they don't look like they have any issues. And especially I'm not a mother, but women like myself who are thinking about maybe having kids in the long run, we see things like that and say, Well, anything that's short of that will not serve me. And especially in the corporate world, you're thinking, Well, can I even be a mom? Can I do this? Can I do this all? And so these tools that we're talking about are very important because they basically provide more clarity and more information about things so that we feel comfortable. we're starting to talk about gaps together. What have you noticed that's missing in the life science industry?
Emily Blue: Yeah, so we have tons and tons of evidence, research, years of literature, but to actually see that trickle down into rural areas specifically, I would say that is the biggest gap is to see it'll actually open up into talking about leadership, you know, that's very huge on this podcast is maybe leaders aren't necessarily finding they have to continue learning after they reach a certain point. And so that research that's emerging isn't really reaching all of our all of our healthcare spaces. All of all the I'll leave it there.
Leili: Yeah, no t I I'd love to know more d because I think we're tapping into something that a lot of leaders who happen to be women don't think about too much. So can you g elaborate just a little bit more?
Emily Blue: Well, specifically in maternal care, we find that there's a lot of recent research that shows what best practices are likely to be. Again, then we we have to consider the environment, the the the individual and their genome. but really we have a lot of evidence emerging on best practices and we're not seeing them actually utilized in hospital settings or in clinical setting settings.
Leili: That's that's really good to know. I I and I just wanna know why. Like why are we not using research, using the scientific research to better this experience? Do you have any thoughts about that too? Yeah.
Emily Blue: From my perspective, it seems like maybe if you had an apprenticeship under a certain midwife or another OBGYN or even a nurse practitioner, you know, you're you're learning from your elders and so you almost get set in your ways. I'm not sure I'm sure y you understand a lot about neuroplasticity and our ability to kind of get into certain patterns and it's hard to break those.
Leili: Yes.
Emily Blue: But i when new c new research is emerging, we really need to take that into consideration. I think bias probably plays a really big role in that as well. I don't really want to go too deep on it, but it is worth noting that women of color, the the disparity in maternal care is absolutely astronomical. It's it I get the chills talking about it. so to then we have research that emerges on various topics of that, and we have, you know, these rural care providers who are very set in their ways, they're set in their bias, and it it impacts the care that women are receiving.
Leili: So much of what we're talking about really goes down to, and Emily, I'm so happy that you're bringing it up with leadership and how much we tend to not only, to your point, learn from people's mistakes, but in the wrong way. Meaning, like if they're the way I think of it in the corporate world and what I'm actually seeing in a couple clients that I have, when they experience rudeness and the culture that's toxic, instead of saying no to it, they feel like they have to abide to it. And so they start to formulate that within their behavior and their characteristics. It's almost to me when I hear things like that, especially in women's healthcare and what you've seen, it's it makes me so depressed because we have all of this information and why are we why are we either being biased about it or ignoring it and not helping the general population? how can we as leaders fix issues that you just mentioned?
Emily Blue: That's a really great question. I would think to understand that we are always learning. We're always the I guess yes to a degree you have to take it into consideration where the data is coming from, this new emerging research, who's conducting it and what is their motive behind it or whatever. But there there is a level of we have to always be learning and growing.
Leili: And that's so easy to say for us, right? And it's just so difficult to do. So if someone is in the
Emily Blue: Sure, fair enough.
Leili: but if someone is in the life industry, what are some ways that you think would be helpful to stay in that growth mindset?
Emily Blue: I definitely find reading is very critical to always be learning something new, whether it's, you know, personal development, if it is relevant in your specific niche of life science. I I I think reading or even if it's li if you don't if you don't like reading, you don't find you have enough time listening to a podcast or somehow emerging yourself in current topics, current discussion.
Leili: I I love that. It's the more you know, the better you are in terms of your humil humility. I think the more that I take in the world of leadership and what we talk about even in this podcast, the more I realize I know nothing. I did not even close to the hundred percent that I had wished. So I think that's what knowledge does to you, is that it gives you that humility as well.
Emily Blue: Yeah, absolutely.
Leili: And I see that humility in you of course. So I'd love to know how has becoming a leader and doing the startup impacted you?
Emily Blue: It's really helped me to see where I fall short, in all areas of my life, you know, whether it's I need to get to bed earlier, to, you know, I've I've learned in maybe experiences with you, I need to keep a little better track of my calendar. I need to, you know, always be sharpening myself. I think that that's the it's beyond reading or watching a podcast. It's just continuing your personal development.
Leili: I love that. And Emily, honestly, I think a lot of us as women, we handle so much. And so it you mentioned something about the organization, and I just want you to know it's okay. It's fine. We all struggle with it. Yeah,
Emily Blue: Always trying to learn.
Leili: yeah. do you mind if I share our experience together and I can tell you what exactly happened
Emily Blue: No, of course.
Leili: to me? So Emily and I had had this time that we wanted to set to just get to know each other more and spend some time with coffee. And then Emily, you had so much on your plate that that time completely skipped and you were so sweet and so apologetic and you were so c kind enough to give me a gift of a book and then I I have to tell you you know it's it's really the empathy that I had for you is I I I understand it. Two weeks ago I did the same thing. So I had volunteered my time to do some leadership classes with a high school and there was an orientation that was happening. I just had forgotten to put that on my calendar and I had like three or four in Engagements that were happening simultaneously in one week. And that exact thing you did happened to me where the leader of the organization reached out and said, Hey, are you coming today? And my whole entire body froze. I was in the middle of a meeting and I said, What do you mean? What what do you mean it's today? but that to say, you know, a a lot of women who are listening to this, and I mean men as well, this applies to all of us. There's some grace and it's really important to surround yourself with people who understand who have that empathy who know that sometimes the there's something that happens to us and and we tend to forget of one thing or two so I just wanted to call that on say it's not even that big of a deal that that happened I went through
Emily Blue: I love that. Thank you for sharing that.
Leili: that it's you know it's like one thing happens to you and then you do it and you're like wow this is this is a good this is a good reminder that I cannot juggle 50 things too but thank you for sharing that I would love to know too who are inspirational leaders that you look up to and why.
Emily Blue: So I really have fascinatingly enough become very inspired by Anne Wajiski. She is the CEO, former CEO of 23andMe. She actually, you know, there was a whole kerfuffle and she has now reacquired the company. But I find her she's a powerhouse. I think her whole family, their her mother raised these amazing women. I I I'm very inspired by them.
Leili: Yep, yep. And for I and I know this is gonna come up in people's minds for listeners because that's just how we are. Sometimes we react to social media and things that we experience and and comments. there's some conspiracies with twenty three and me and the leadership behind that. is there anything you would say wi with that if someone goes, Well, how come this leader there's so much conspiracy behind twenty three and me?
Emily Blue: you know, I I'm really fascinated with conspiracy theories myself. And as someone who started a DNA testing company, it's like there's nothing nefarious about what I'm doing. Like there's genuine inspir, you know, there's genuine Objective to help women. There's nothing we're not trying to gather DNA to see I think there was a recent conspiracy about like they wanted to see if if people had alien DNA or something. Like w on my end, I'm there's nothing even remotely close to that. So I I can only imagine what what she might be seeing. You know, she sees that on the internet and just probably chuckles.
Leili: I'm sure, I'm sure. And what is the number one advice that you have for those starting a business in life science?
Emily Blue: I would say don't give up. It's really hard. Yesterday, around this exact moment, I was having just the hardest time. I was having a really hard time yesterday, and I had to, you know, pick myself back up. I had you you just you have to keep going. And I and it's nothing against you. It's just about me, like where I am with my business and my journey. I'm like, sh is this even the right move to do this podcast today? And I I'm
Leili: Yeah.
Emily Blue: like, no, I I'm committed. I'm really I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to share about my journey. I'm excited to share about my work. And it's it's funny, we have that ebb and flow. And so I would say just keep going.
Leili: Yeah. And I think a lot of people resonate with your story and for sure I I've had the same thing as a business owner. There are meetings or organizations that I've been involved with where maybe like a week or two into it I think, well, was this even the right call? And so I think as a business owner, they're very much there's very very much the the doubts that comes through for any startups or any businesses that you do. And of course, you know, I I really care about what you're doing because again it's for women and it's to help women, is to clarify, is to enlighten, it's to help us know where where we need to go. I I've even spent some time getting to know, you know, the IVF process for myself and I've gone to clinics and I've had conversations with doctors and sometimes it depends on who you get as a doctor, but as much they are helpful this some of them are also very aloof and distance and so some of that research and the questioning I have to do it on my own and so having tools like this is very helpful. Where can we find you in social media online just to learn more about you and what you do
Emily Blue: So my social handles are at Maternal Genomics Institute across all platforms. You can find me on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok. I'm not as active as of late. I did realize, you know, my family as I was t I was immersing myself into this a hundred and ten percent. And I I I noticed that my family kind of needed me to fall back for a little bit. And so during this summer season I have taken a little bit of a break. But I am I have have all these plans for this fall and winter and so please find me on social and follow me there.
Leili: Yeah, I think you do wonderful work and thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I'm so happy to have you here.
Emily Blue: Thank you, Lailey.
Leili: Yeah.
Emily Blue: I'm wonderful, Lely. Thank you so much for having me on the show.
Leili: my gosh, it is my pleasure. So we had an opportunity to meet in Moonshot and since then I was very impressed by your pitch and what you were doing and so I would love for the listeners to learn more about you. So tell us more about you.
Emily Blue: So, my name is Emily. I am a mother, first and foremost. I'm an entrepreneur. I have been an entrepreneur longer than I've been a mother. And it's sort of one inspired the other, in essence, to form Maternal Genomics Institute, and that is the project that I'm currently most passionate about. we provide genomic testing for the maternal timeline from psycho health all the way to menopause. Our kind of perfect spot is to s you know, find women before they conceive so that we can ideally optimize their entire conception all the way through postpartum and menopause and beyond.
Leili: Thank you, Emily. And I'm so intrigued by your startup. So I would love to learn more. Can you tell us more about your startup and what you plan to do with this business?
Emily Blue: So it all I I I originally became inspired by this idea. I have worked with women for nearly ten years now. And no, actually twenty twenty six it has been ten years now, officially ten years. I've worked with women and in various different ways. ten years ago I was working with women in recovery, which inspired, you know, I I'm seeing women come They're they're pregnant, they're expecting, and to to understand guiding them through something that was really unknown to me, so I actually did some research and found that there is a specific role for that. It's called you know, being a doula or a maternal care educator. And I actually inspired the recovery center that I was working at at the time to begin a doula program in their facility, which was really amazing to see that. so then, you know, fast forward, I I have become a mother. I'm working with a naturopath. This was in 2025, and she's teaching me the ropes of genomics and DNA testing. And I'm like, how can I apply this to my my history and my work? Time and time again, I've heard women say this phrase through the years: my body failed me. And it it could be applied to Fertility, it can be applied to pregnancy, childbirth, postpartum. Time and time again, women are saying this through all these phases of matriescence. And it it hit me so hard every time to hear a woman say, My body failed me. And so I'm I'm learning about DNA and how unique we all really are. E even just from our parents, from our siblings, we are all very unique. And I found that we could really fill this gap in maternal care and provide individualized care rather than a standard one size fits all.
Leili: Mm-hmm. And you shared a little bit more about the inspiration part and what got you to be interested in it. I would love to know how come genetics, what what intrigued you about the genetic piece of it?
Emily Blue: so I guess at at the end of the day we don't really know what our unique response to certain medications or certain interventions are actually going to be just based on walking into an office. it's that genetic DNA piece that is the missing piece of the puzzle.
Leili: Mm, mm-hmm. And patients when you were working with them, was that something that they were really interested in as well as yourself? That they were expressing that they wish they knew all of that information?
Emily Blue: So actually not at all. The more I educate women on the subject, the more they're like, wow, that actually makes a lot of sense. Like they they've never even really considered that could be such a variant for them. We know we I think we compare ourselves to other people a lot. And especially with social media, we can see these women online, they're sharing how joyful and exciting and wonderful their motherhood experience is. And it's really not the case for all of us and so to have that affirmation that your experience was different because your DNA is different and here's how your body is likely to respond to certain things nutrient depletion etc
Leili: the listeners that I have on this podcast, they're they're men and women. but a lot of course all of them are in the corporate world. And so what you just shared is it's a little surprising to me that women haven't asked a lot of the questions that has to do with genetics. but it also checks out and then you shared the c comparison with Instagram and how we see people and they're they look amazing, pregnant, they don't look like they have any issues. And especially I'm not a mother, but women like myself who are thinking about maybe having kids in the long run, we see things like that and say, Well, anything that's short of that will not serve me. And especially in the corporate world, you're thinking, Well, can I even be a mom? Can I do this? Can I do this all? And so these tools that we're talking about are very important because they basically provide more clarity and more information about things so that we feel comfortable. we're starting to talk about gaps together. What have you noticed that's missing in the life science industry?
Emily Blue: Yeah, so we have tons and tons of evidence, research, years of literature, but to actually see that trickle down into rural areas specifically, I would say that is the biggest gap is to see it'll actually open up into talking about leadership, you know, that's very huge on this podcast is maybe leaders aren't necessarily finding they have to continue learning after they reach a certain point. And so that research that's emerging isn't really reaching all of our all of our healthcare spaces. All of all the I'll leave it there.
Leili: Yeah, no t I I'd love to know more d because I think we're tapping into something that a lot of leaders who happen to be women don't think about too much. So can you g elaborate just a little bit more?
Emily Blue: Well, specifically in maternal care, we find that there's a lot of recent research that shows what best practices are likely to be. Again, then we we have to consider the environment, the the the individual and their genome. but really we have a lot of evidence emerging on best practices and we're not seeing them actually utilized in hospital settings or in clinical setting settings.
Leili: That's that's really good to know. I I and I just wanna know why. Like why are we not using research, using the scientific research to better this experience? Do you have any thoughts about that too? Yeah.
Emily Blue: From my perspective, it seems like maybe if you had an apprenticeship under a certain midwife or another OBGYN or even a nurse practitioner, you know, you're you're learning from your elders and so you almost get set in your ways. I'm not sure I'm sure y you understand a lot about neuroplasticity and our ability to kind of get into certain patterns and it's hard to break those.
Leili: Yes.
Emily Blue: But i when new c new research is emerging, we really need to take that into consideration. I think bias probably plays a really big role in that as well. I don't really want to go too deep on it, but it is worth noting that women of color, the the disparity in maternal care is absolutely astronomical. It's it I get the chills talking about it. so to then we have research that emerges on various topics of that, and we have, you know, these rural care providers who are very set in their ways, they're set in their bias, and it it impacts the care that women are receiving.
Leili: So much of what we're talking about really goes down to, and Emily, I'm so happy that you're bringing it up with leadership and how much we tend to not only, to your point, learn from people's mistakes, but in the wrong way. Meaning, like if they're the way I think of it in the corporate world and what I'm actually seeing in a couple clients that I have, when they experience rudeness and the culture that's toxic, instead of saying no to it, they feel like they have to abide to it. And so they start to formulate that within their behavior and their characteristics. It's almost to me when I hear things like that, especially in women's healthcare and what you've seen, it's it makes me so depressed because we have all of this information and why are we why are we either being biased about it or ignoring it and not helping the general population? how can we as leaders fix issues that you just mentioned?
Emily Blue: That's a really great question. I would think to understand that we are always learning. We're always the I guess yes to a degree you have to take it into consideration where the data is coming from, this new emerging research, who's conducting it and what is their motive behind it or whatever. But there there is a level of we have to always be learning and growing.
Leili: And that's so easy to say for us, right? And it's just so difficult to do. So if someone is in the
Emily Blue: Sure, fair enough.
Leili: but if someone is in the life industry, what are some ways that you think would be helpful to stay in that growth mindset?
Emily Blue: I definitely find reading is very critical to always be learning something new, whether it's, you know, personal development, if it is relevant in your specific niche of life science. I I I think reading or even if it's li if you don't if you don't like reading, you don't find you have enough time listening to a podcast or somehow emerging yourself in current topics, current discussion.
Leili: I I love that. It's the more you know, the better you are in terms of your humil humility. I think the more that I take in the world of leadership and what we talk about even in this podcast, the more I realize I know nothing. I did not even close to the hundred percent that I had wished. So I think that's what knowledge does to you, is that it gives you that humility as well.
Emily Blue: Yeah, absolutely.
Leili: And I see that humility in you of course. So I'd love to know how has becoming a leader and doing the startup impacted you?
Emily Blue: It's really helped me to see where I fall short, in all areas of my life, you know, whether it's I need to get to bed earlier, to, you know, I've I've learned in maybe experiences with you, I need to keep a little better track of my calendar. I need to, you know, always be sharpening myself. I think that that's the it's beyond reading or watching a podcast. It's just continuing your personal development.
Leili: I love that. And Emily, honestly, I think a lot of us as women, we handle so much. And so it you mentioned something about the organization, and I just want you to know it's okay. It's fine. We all struggle with it. Yeah,
Emily Blue: Always trying to learn.
Leili: yeah. do you mind if I share our experience together and I can tell you what exactly happened
Emily Blue: No, of course.
Leili: to me? So Emily and I had had this time that we wanted to set to just get to know each other more and spend some time with coffee. And then Emily, you had so much on your plate that that time completely skipped and you were so sweet and so apologetic and you were so c kind enough to give me a gift of a book and then I I have to tell you you know it's it's really the empathy that I had for you is I I I understand it. Two weeks ago I did the same thing. So I had volunteered my time to do some leadership classes with a high school and there was an orientation that was happening. I just had forgotten to put that on my calendar and I had like three or four in Engagements that were happening simultaneously in one week. And that exact thing you did happened to me where the leader of the organization reached out and said, Hey, are you coming today? And my whole entire body froze. I was in the middle of a meeting and I said, What do you mean? What what do you mean it's today? but that to say, you know, a a lot of women who are listening to this, and I mean men as well, this applies to all of us. There's some grace and it's really important to surround yourself with people who understand who have that empathy who know that sometimes the there's something that happens to us and and we tend to forget of one thing or two so I just wanted to call that on say it's not even that big of a deal that that happened I went through
Emily Blue: I love that. Thank you for sharing that.
Leili: that it's you know it's like one thing happens to you and then you do it and you're like wow this is this is a good this is a good reminder that I cannot juggle 50 things too but thank you for sharing that I would love to know too who are inspirational leaders that you look up to and why.
Emily Blue: So I really have fascinatingly enough become very inspired by Anne Wajiski. She is the CEO, former CEO of 23andMe. She actually, you know, there was a whole kerfuffle and she has now reacquired the company. But I find her she's a powerhouse. I think her whole family, their her mother raised these amazing women. I I I'm very inspired by them.
Leili: Yep, yep. And for I and I know this is gonna come up in people's minds for listeners because that's just how we are. Sometimes we react to social media and things that we experience and and comments. there's some conspiracies with twenty three and me and the leadership behind that. is there anything you would say wi with that if someone goes, Well, how come this leader there's so much conspiracy behind twenty three and me?
Emily Blue: you know, I I'm really fascinated with conspiracy theories myself. And as someone who started a DNA testing company, it's like there's nothing nefarious about what I'm doing. Like there's genuine inspir, you know, there's genuine Objective to help women. There's nothing we're not trying to gather DNA to see I think there was a recent conspiracy about like they wanted to see if if people had alien DNA or something. Like w on my end, I'm there's nothing even remotely close to that. So I I can only imagine what what she might be seeing. You know, she sees that on the internet and just probably chuckles.
Leili: I'm sure, I'm sure. And what is the number one advice that you have for those starting a business in life science?
Emily Blue: I would say don't give up. It's really hard. Yesterday, around this exact moment, I was having just the hardest time. I was having a really hard time yesterday, and I had to, you know, pick myself back up. I had you you just you have to keep going. And I and it's nothing against you. It's just about me, like where I am with my business and my journey. I'm like, sh is this even the right move to do this podcast today? And I I'm
Leili: Yeah.
Emily Blue: like, no, I I'm committed. I'm really I'm excited to be here. I'm excited to share about my journey. I'm excited to share about my work. And it's it's funny, we have that ebb and flow. And so I would say just keep going.
Leili: Yeah. And I think a lot of people resonate with your story and for sure I I've had the same thing as a business owner. There are meetings or organizations that I've been involved with where maybe like a week or two into it I think, well, was this even the right call? And so I think as a business owner, they're very much there's very very much the the doubts that comes through for any startups or any businesses that you do. And of course, you know, I I really care about what you're doing because again it's for women and it's to help women, is to clarify, is to enlighten, it's to help us know where where we need to go. I I've even spent some time getting to know, you know, the IVF process for myself and I've gone to clinics and I've had conversations with doctors and sometimes it depends on who you get as a doctor, but as much they are helpful this some of them are also very aloof and distance and so some of that research and the questioning I have to do it on my own and so having tools like this is very helpful. Where can we find you in social media online just to learn more about you and what you do
Emily Blue: So my social handles are at Maternal Genomics Institute across all platforms. You can find me on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok. I'm not as active as of late. I did realize, you know, my family as I was t I was immersing myself into this a hundred and ten percent. And I I I noticed that my family kind of needed me to fall back for a little bit. And so during this summer season I have taken a little bit of a break. But I am I have have all these plans for this fall and winter and so please find me on social and follow me there.
Leili: Yeah, I think you do wonderful work and thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I'm so happy to have you here.
Emily Blue: Thank you, Lailey.
Leili: Yeah.