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Aloha Inspired Money Maker. Thanks for joining me today.
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If this is your first time here, welcome. If you're a returning viewer
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or listener, welcome back. I'm so excited about this
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episode. If you've ever had or if you've
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set financial goals, maybe you want to save
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more, invest wisely or build long term wealth.
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But you found that life got in the way. You get busy,
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bills pile up, unexpected expenses pop up, and before you know
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it, your your financial dreams take a backseat.
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That's why so many people are not saving enough for retirement, lack an
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emergency fund, or struggle to take control of their financial
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future. But what if I told you that there's a simple tool
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that top performers, athletes and business leaders swear by?
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Something that helps you to stay focused, motivated and on
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track. It's called a vision board. Also known as a
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dream board. A vision board is a visual representation
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of your goals made up of images, affirmations and words
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that remind you of where you want to go. By seeing your financial
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goals every day, you're reinforcing them in your mind, training
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your brain to recognize opportunities and increasing the likelihood
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of making them reality. Even some of the most
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successful people in the world use them. Oprah Winfrey, Jim
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Carrey, Steve Harvey, entrepreneur Sarah
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Blakely who founded Spanx. They've all
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talked about the power of visualization in their success. So
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today I hope to cover things like the science
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behind visualization and why it works, how to create a
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vision board that actually drives results, how to overcome
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limiting beliefs that hold you back, the missing link
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between vision and action, and how to build wealth
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with purpose and impact. If you're ready to train your brain for
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financial success, you don't want to miss this conversation before we
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get started. This episode is brought to you by my financial advisory
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firm, Runnymede Capital Management. I want to invite you to take
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advantage of our three minute financial plan. Head over to
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personalized snapshot to help kick off your financial journey.
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So a little planning goes a long way. Check it out and
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afterwards I'm happy to set up a call with you to discuss it.
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Let's bring in our panelists. I'm so excited that they're here.
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Let's start with John Assaraf. He is a leading
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mindset and behavioral expert, CEO of NeuroGym and
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two time New York Times best selling author known for
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helping individuals in businesses unlock their fullest potential
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using neuroscience based Training. He's built five
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multimillion dollar companies, appeared on Larry King Live,
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Anderson Cooper and the Ellen DeGeneres show, and has been
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featured in eight films including the Secret.
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John, welcome to Inspired Money. Andy, great to be with
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you. And I hear that you have a goal of wanting to touch a
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billion people's lives in a positive way.
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Yes, positively impact as many people as
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I can while I'm alive and maybe even after I'm
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transitioned into the other phase of life. So you're no stranger to
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big goals. I look forward to this
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discussion. We have Dr. Srini Pillay in the house.
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He's a Harvard trained psychiatrist,
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neuroscientist, and CEO of Neuro Business Group
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specializing in the science of mindset, visualization and goal
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achievement. A sought after speaker, author and consultant to Fortune
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500 companies, he translates complex brain
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research into actionable strategies for personal and financial
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success. He's the author of several books including
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Tinker Dabble Doodle, Unlock the power of
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the unfocused mind. Dr. Srini,
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welcome. Thanks for having me, Andy. It's lovely to be here.
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And rounding out our panel, we have Ellen Rogin,
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CPA, CFP. She's a money expert in financial
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intuitive who helps people reshape their relationships with money
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to greater abundance and joy. She's a
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New York Times bestselling author. One of her books is
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Picture your prosperity. And her insights have been featured on
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cnbc, abc, npr, Time, and Oprah
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magazine. Ellen, I'm so glad that you're here. I am
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so glad to be here with you all. I'm so excited about this topic. It's
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one of my favorite ones. Well, I'm
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excited for many, many reasons. I understand that John
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and Srini are good friends going way back.
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And then you mentioned something about your book.
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Yeah, we quote one of
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shrinking of our book talking about
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the science behind the power of visualization.
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I love it. I love the connections. Or as Serena, you
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said, they're happy coincidences. Yep. Meaningful
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coincidences. Meaningful coincidences. Okay. Well, I'm so
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excited about this episode. We're going to be talking about vision boards. We're going to
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be talking about goals manifesting abundance. Let's go
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straight into segment one. The brain naturally
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prioritizes information based on what feels important. This
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filtering process influences decision making, making people more
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aware of opportunities that support their goals. When financial
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success is visualized consistently, the brain adjusts,
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reinforcing focus and motivation. This is why vision
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boards can be powerful tools. They serve as daily reminders that
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keep financial aspirations front and center. Studies
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show that imagining a goal repeatedly strengthens neural pathways,
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making individuals more likely to take actions that support it. By
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including specific images and words that represent financial
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milestones, vision boards help clarify objectives.
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Whether it's saving a set amount, increasing income, or
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investing wisely, regularly engaging with these visuals
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reinforces habits that drive progress. For the best
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results, vision boards should be reviewed often and paired with
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concrete actions. Visualization alone isn't enough.
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Combining it with intentional steps turns financial success from a
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vision into reality.
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John, get us started, because you're a living example of this. I
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know that you've studied how visualization reshapes the brain. Can
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you share your experience at age 19, after dropping
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out of high school? What's happened neurologically
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since then, since you've repeatedly focused on your future
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vision? Sure. So when I was 19, I had a
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wonderful mentor who was a student of Napoleon
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Hill's book Think and Grow rich. And at 19, he asked me
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what I wanted to achieve. And I wrote down the amount of money I wanted
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to make, what I wanted to retire, by, what kind of lifestyle I wanted to
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live. And he then asked me, you know, did I
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have the identity to achieve those things? And the answer was
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clearly no. And I almost didn't even know what he meant by
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identity. And he said, you will never earn more than your
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identity will allow you to earn or your hidden self image.
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And so every day, he would have me look at my
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goals that were in writing of how much money I wanted to achieve when I
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want to retire, by who I want to help, et cetera. And
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in addition to looking at my goals,
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I started to create these visual representations,
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whether it's a car, a home, traveling, and every day I
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would sit there and I would look at it, I would read my goals, I
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would run my fingers across the paper that I had that was
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laminated at the time, I would close my eyes and I would see
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myself in the car, in the home, making the money that I
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want to make, making a difference in the world. And he shared with
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me back then that astronauts were visualizing to
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prepare themselves for missions to the moon. He said Navy SEALs were
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visualizing, Olympic athletes were visualizing. And he said,
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visualization is a mental and emotional
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simulation. And I later found out that, you
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know, those neurons that we fire when we visualize and emotionalize,
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and back by action, they wire together
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and formulate these new pathways or new software
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programming of the brain, which then obviously can affect
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behavior. And when you repeat that now, you start
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to upgrade your identity, your beliefs, and your
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habits for achieving those goals. So it's a combination of
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visualization plus affirmations plus images
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plus doing the right actions consistently.
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Very powerful. Big changes in your life,
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no doubt. Big, huge changes. You know, I started
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off, you know, making $1.65 an hour working in a shipping
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department when I was 19, to making
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tens of thousands of dollars a month in my early 20s
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to making millions of dollars a year by time I was in my late
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20s. All because I followed this process
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of what I call today is inner sizing and
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priming my brain daily to focus on what I
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want to achieve versus what I didn't want to achieve or the obstacles
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in the way. Srini, you have a client that
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found a spouse. So vision boards can cover
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all aspects of one's life. How important is
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specificity when creating a vision board?
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Well, I think specificity is especially important, and
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relevance is also important, because when you feel
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like you truly want something, then the image centers in the brain
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are actually fed by what is going on in your brain when you're
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excited. So, firstly, at a general
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level, there is a condition known as aphantasia, which is when
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people cannot actually generate an image at all. And if you look
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in their brains, what you actually see is that the image
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center is activated. But the areas that are responsible
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for integrating sensations are not telling us how important
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integrating those sensations are to the final vision.
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In that particular instance, I had a client who was in his mid-60s
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who decided that he wanted to get remarried. And he didn't know
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where to start, but he actually, he put out a challenge to our relationship
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and said, somehow something that we're doing needs to lead to
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my finding a wife in one year. And I said, well, you know, there's not
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a lot of time to date. What are we talking about? He said, well, it
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doesn't matter. I don't want to fall. I don't want to do anything conventional. I
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want to find someone who I definitely want to marry. And what he
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started to. So we actually started doing a pretty concrete visualization
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exercise together. And then he would leave it for a while and then
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come back to it. And you need these unfocused times.
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As I pointed out in my book Tinker Dabble Doodle, Try, having
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these unfocused times is important because it allows
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the brain to go search for little pieces of information that
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can contribute to that vision. Well, the short story is that before
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the end of that year, he actually found someone he fell in love with
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and got mad. And I think that really used to be A very sort
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of practical person who was like, well, you know, I don't want to try this.
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And so I said to him, well, why don't you try it? There is a
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biology behind this that there's a lot of evidence to show,
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especially from athletes, that envisioning can impact
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success. And there are particular tips that you can actually employ. So, for
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example, if you're not feeling confident, having an image
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of coming from behind so that you're overcoming some
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obstacle can actually be helpful. So we worked on the
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imagery in a pretty detailed way, and within the year, he was
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married, so he's now a complete believer and always goes back to
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these seemingly more esoteric ideas whenever he's facing a challenge in his
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life. So can the biology
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part explain to somebody who wants a rational explanation?
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Because some people may say that just looks like an art project.
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I don't. I don't have time to do that. Yes.
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So. So. So the idea is, well, how does. What does the
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image do? Well, you have 100 billion neurons and 100 trillion
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connections in the human brain, which means that at any one time,
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there's a lot of chaos that's going on there. So any kind of
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clarity that the brain can get so that you are
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articulating to it what your blueprint is can actually
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help you navigate toward that blueprint. And the
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blueprint, in the case of the brain, is not just a diagram.
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It's not just visual. Even though imagery sounds like it's just
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visual, there are inputs from a number of other centers in the brain.
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For example, the hippocampus, the memory center of the brain can
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contribute toward that. These sensory integrators
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can contribute toward that. And so the final
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image that is created is really a little bit like a
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felt movie. And now think about this. If you say to
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the brain, yeah, I want to make $100 million, your brain is like, yeah,
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well, whatever. That's cool. But if you say to your brain, I want
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to make $100 million so that I can live in a house that looks like
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that, so that I can have a lifestyle that is like that, your
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brain will start to get more excited and more
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activated. But I think, as you're going to be pointing out, there are a lot
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of obstacles that can stand in the way of that, like just
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being cynical about it or having limiting beliefs about your own possibilities.
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Because the vision does need to be unleashed to be
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the full blueprint that it is. And I think, as John pointed out,
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John actually has the ability. The interesting thing about John is That he's so articulate
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and clear. But when you're in his presence, you immediately get a
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sense of the transcendence of his own consciousness. He's connected to some
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other zone of consciousness that I think is. It comes
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from a willingness to surrender because he
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believes in something greater. And so one of the things I
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will often say to people is that, is that imagery is not
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just about imagining something. It is about
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noticing a pattern that could apply to
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you. That reality doesn't only work in logical ways.
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You don't just say, I have a goal, and then you have a strategy. Most
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business strategies fail. Just because you have a linear
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strategy doesn't mean that something's going to work out. You're human and your
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brain responds to powerful stimuli and. And
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blueprints like imagery. Thank you.
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Anybody who has experience knows that
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the path to success is not a straight line. It's a very
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crooked and wavy line. So you have to
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embrace that process. Ellen, in picture your
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prosperity, you emphasize financial visioning with a
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prosperity picture. What key elements make a vision
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board truly powerful for manifesting wealth?
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What we designed is a picture,
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prosperity picture, which is a vision board with a little bit
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more structure than sometimes people use. So on the top
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part of the board, it's for images that represent goals
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that require money. And the bottom part of the board are for things that
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you want to have happen in your life that don't require money. And the left
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side of the board is for goals you want to see sooner, maybe five
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years or less, and the right side for goals you want to
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see. And what I'd like to think about is images that
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would go on the top part of your board would be almost like creating
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a visual financial plan for yourself. And
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so I was a former financial advisor. I encourage
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people, advisors that are using these, this tool with
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their clients to have them bring their boards in, because what I
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found. So I'm a certified financial planner, and we
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learn, as you well know, Andy, the things
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that people typically look at with their money. When should I
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retire? How do I send my kids to college? All those more
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typical financial things. And when people create a
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vision board, a prosperity picture, it taps into
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goals that aren't necessarily ones they have, that
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they're thinking of logically, but ones that
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evoke more emotion or more excitement for them.
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As Srini was saying, this is so important to achieve
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the goals that we want to achieve. That is
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great. Let's go into segment two. We're going to
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talk about actually crafting a vision board. A vision
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board Serves as a visual blueprint for financial success.
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Carefully selecting meaningful images, words and symbols
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can present a constant reminder of their financial aspirations.
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Begin by defining clear, specific financial goals. Whether
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it's saving for a home, paying off debt or building wealth.
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Assign measurable targets and realistic timelines to track
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progress. Cut out images from magazines, print online
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visuals or use personal photos that represent desired goals
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and outcomes. Quotes and affirmations strengthen a
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positive financial mindset. Choose a format that suits your
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preference. A physical board using poster board or a corkboard
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offers a hands on experience while a digital version allows
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for easy updates. Place the vision board where you can see it
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daily. Regularly reviewing and updating it ensures alignment
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with evolving financial objectives. With consistent
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engagement, a vision board becomes a powerful tool for financial
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clarity and success.
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If we can just quickly go around the panel, what are
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the essential elements every financial vision board should include?
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John, Love it. Instead of
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talking about it, maybe I can show you. On my desk I have
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something called John Ashraf's Exceptional Life Blueprint.
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In it you'll see I have family pictures just to
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connect me to some of the important things in my life. I have a body
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over here of this guy in his 70s that I used on my
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vision board to get myself from £243 to
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193 that I am now. I have
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different things that I want to achieve, places that I want to go.
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That car that I put in here during COVID is in my garage. Now
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I've traveled to most of the places that I want on this world except
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for seeing the moon from the earth. But I
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have pictures for health and wealth and relationship, career and business
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and experiences in this literally 45
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page book that doesn't just have the images
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and my reasons why I want to achieve them,
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but as Srini said before, it allows me to
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focus on what it is that I want to trade my life for every day
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and give my brain the clarity to go from that chaos of those
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hundred billion brain cells and trillions of connections, you know,
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into having a laser focused understanding
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of what is it that I want. My brain, which I believe is a hundred
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billion dollar bio computer that is able to help
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me navigate towards what it is that I
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want. But also it gives my brain the instruction
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of don't pay attention to all the noise that's out
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there in this distracted world that we live in. And so
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I also think there's another element to it and we're talking about the
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physicalness of all of this. Create a vision board and create
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your goals. But we're all part of something
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so much bigger. If we are made up
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of energy and thoughts produce some energy and emotions produce
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some energy, my behavior produces some energy. And I'm in
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this field of intelligence and energy. Is it
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possible that somehow when I am
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focused that I am tapping into,
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you know, the, the wave functions of a greater
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reality? I believe it is true. We may not have
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all the evidence for it, but I think there's so much more than just,
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you know, my vision board and my focusing on my vision board.
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And then as Srini in his awesome book talks about also
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allowing unfocused time to allow the
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wisdom of, you know, our, our being to
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be able to help us navigate towards what we want. So I focus on
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health, wealth, relationships, career, business experiences, contribution
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all goes into my vision board and I review it for about 5
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minutes every single day. 45 pages.
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Essential elements to a vision board or, or even
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helping those struggling with clarity. Like any tips for
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defining specific financial goals for a vision
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board? I love the idea of leaning into things that
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are very important to you that you value. When I think about
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my prosperity picture, there's contribution
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things on there, giving back goals. Because what
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I found with my own goal achievement and the people
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that I work with, when there's a really important why and how
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it impacts other people, a generosity component, if you
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will, it helps drive the
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actions necessary. In your
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video it talked about not just having a numbers goal, but like what that could
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do for people. And I would add beyond that
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and how it impacts not only your life, but the
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life of others. And I
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echo that, having your board somewhere where you can see it all
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the time. So I have one in my office, I have it on my phone.
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And yeah, I think it's really important to
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keep these in front of us. So then we're motivated to
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take inspired action to turn that vision into a
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reality. SRINI Neuroscience shows
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that novelty enhances memory. How can people
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structure vision boards so they remain neurologically
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stimulating over time so that you can look at it every
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day for years? Well, there's a, there's a quote that I
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thought I'd share with you from Esther Hicks when she says it
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makes no difference whether you want the specifics of it or not. It is
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the vibrational essence of the subject of your attention that is
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attractive. That which you really, really want, you get,
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and that which you really, really do not want, you get.
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And I think what this quote teaches us is that to put
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together some of what both. But both of the previous speakers have
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spoken about is There's a. The vibrational
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essence of the board needs to feel exciting to you.
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about integrating those sensations that become part of whatever the
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movie is that you're making. If you integrate those
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sensations because the vibrational energy is good to you, it
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matters. For example, one person's idea of
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wealth may be to live in a beautiful mansion
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and to try privately, and that's it.
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Someone else who thinks about their wealth may be thinking about the freedom of their
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kids. So choose what feels relevant to you, because
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in the brain, relevance actually matters. And you also want to
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keep your motivation high when you're
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interacting with your vision board. And if you look at some of the
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neurological theories around motivation, one of the key
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factors is autonomy. And so
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feeling like there's a vibrational essence and like you have an
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independent relationship with this vision can actually turn this image
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on. There's another quote which I thought I'd share with you,
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which also relates to something that John talked about, and I think something that
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Ellen talked about as well, from Maxwell Maltz, which is that a human
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being always acts and feels and performs in
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accordance with what he imagines to be true about himself and his
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environment. For imagination sets the goal picture
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which our automatic mechanisms work on. We act or fail
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to act, not because of will, as it is so commonly believed, but
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because of imagination. Now, what this relates to is
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in order to be wealthier, you actually have to have the
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ability to think like a wealthy person. And to do that, a
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lot of people still remain poorer. But try to think
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as if. Try to think about the wealth they want.
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So there's a concept that I labeled called psychological Halloweenism,
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which essentially is based on a study that showed that if you
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take the same person and you ask them to solve a creative problem,
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if they think of themselves as a rigid librarian, they are
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statistically significantly less likely to solve that problem than if
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they solve it as an eccentric poet. Because in one
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state, as the rigid librarian, their creative processes are not kicked
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off. In the other state, as someone who's an eccentric
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poet, they suddenly have the permission to reach their goals. So
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on a vision board, I think it's really important to have things that
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align with who you are and to allow yourself to elevate
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from your current position into the position of the person you're
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imagining. Paradoxically, it's not about waiting until you become
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that person. You become that person now, and then you act like
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that person, and you realize what that person would realize.
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John, I'VE heard you talk about. You have to choose
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the identity that you need to be to
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achieve the things that you've set as your goals on your vision
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board. Can you talk a little bit about how do you
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structure your exceptional life blueprint that you showed us?
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How do you engage both the conscious and the subconscious mind?
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Yeah. So a couple things that I want to mention as well that's important on
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a vision board is inside. My vision
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board is also inclusive of an
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accomplished board. So I put images
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and or things that I've already achieved so that when I'm
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actually looking at my vision board, I remind myself of who I was
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before I achieved them to give
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myself the self confidence, self image and identity
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of a achiever, a goal achiever. So I remind
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myself, before I had those images up there, before I had those goals, I didn't
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have maybe the knowledge, the skills, the self belief to
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achieve those goals. But I metamorphosized
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into the type of person that was able to achieve those
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goals. But one of the ways that I do this as well is you'll
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see there's something over here called the story of my life.
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And so it's two pages long, and
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I write the story as if I was writing a
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Hollywood script. And so if I was a Hollywood script writer,
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I'd write the script, I'd hand it over to an actor, and
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the actor would memorize the script and feel the
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script so that he or she could perform the
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script without the actual script. So you write
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the story. And then every day, you know, I
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read the story of what I've achieved, what I've
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accomplished, how I feel, who I've helped, how I've
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overcome the hurdles, and I've become the person capable of
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overcoming obstacles and challenges to achieve the vision,
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the goals. And I'm smart enough and good enough and worthy enough. And
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my personal belief, you know, is that we weren't born with a self image.
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We weren't born with fears, we weren't born with beliefs. Those
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are just reinforced neural patterns in my brain like
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software. And so when I see and
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feel and visualize and take action, I
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am activating and reinforcing new patterns
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deliberately. So in essence, I am deliberately and
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consciously evolving myself every day, every week, every month
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to match up the identity and the beliefs and the behaviors
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that are required to actually really create the
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goal achievement part versus the vision board, which is
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more of a goal setting part. Anybody
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else want to follow that? Well, I was just thinking when John
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was speaking that that part of this is also Attentional training,
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right? So if you have, let's say you have 10 units of attention in your
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brain, if you spend no time envisioning what you want, then
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you're not training your attention to look for what you want. Whereas when you
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actually start to think, well, this is my vision board. And even if every day
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you spend five minutes you're training your attention to look for that. And
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many times in life we miss out on opportunities and we miss out
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on financial opportunities because we
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don't see them. And so what a vision board does is it reminds
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you to notice what you want.
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Ellen, that's the beauty or the value of having a financial plan too,
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right? It's keeping a longer term view
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so that you're not distracted by your day to day
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life getting in the way. Well, and I love
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coupling a solid financial plan
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with a vision board because it adds
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the juiciness to it. And I
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find that most of the time some people are super motivated by the numbers
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and the charts and the graphs, but often they don't even make sense to
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people. And when you can have images behind it, your why,
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what drives you, and as Srini said, like to
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have that focus be there, it
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adds more excitement, more meaning,
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and frankly a lot more fun because financial
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planning can be boring for some people and it
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adds some juiciness to the whole
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process that I think will help people move their goals
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ahead much more quickly. In your experience, is this
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something for a more visual learner versus the person
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who just likes numbers or have you found that
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most people should try this practice?
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I think it taps into a part of us that if we're only
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thinking about the numbers, part gets lost. I remember
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doing a workshop soon after picture your prosperity came out and there
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was someone in the audience who said, you know, I've only been thinking
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about retirement, what I need to do to get there. It didn't occur
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to me why or what I was going to do afterwards. So
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I think that having these
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visions, these images
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moves people ahead in a much more meaningful way.
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And I also believe that it can help them communicate with
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their advisors. I believe people should have financial advisors to help them
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get where they want to go. And it makes the conversation a lot more
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meaningful and customized. And most advisors say we
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customize financial plans for our clients, but
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truly if you were able to share a vision board
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with an advisor, it would be so helpful. And I
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think back about a client who, when I was working with
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individuals doing planning, she came in and said, I really want to
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be retired at age 50. 4 and she was 50
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and with not even close to enough money. And I didn't
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want to throw her goal out because I believe that, you know, when
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we can envision things and have a positive
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outlook, it could be helpful. And what happened over the next four
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years? Look at her tactical financial plan. There was no way she was going
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to do it. She'd have to save $300,000 a year and she didn't
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make close to that. She ended up
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inheriting money she didn't expect to inherit. I
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don't think a man is a plan. But she met this great guy and that
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ended up bringing additional wealth to her
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situation. And by age 54 she was able to retire.
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She chose not to because she wanted to find work that was more
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meaningful. But this process has magic to it. You know,
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as John said, we can tap into some
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forces that are not able to be seen. And I
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love that. I love the magic that can come with the practical
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planning. Could I add something, Andy?
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Please. You know, if we, if we look at the
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mechanics, right, the neuro mechanics as like to call it said the
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vision board gives you like the what? The
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bullseye? No differently than when you're in an
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airplane leading from one city to another, there's a
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destination. So the vision board gives you kind of like the destination
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of here's what I would like to be, here's what I'd like to do.
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The thing that Alan said around why
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gives you the emotional capital to get going.
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The financial planning, if we think about is there more than enough
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money in the world? Of course there is. There's more than enough
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for everybody. But we have to know how are you going
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to achieve it? So we want to know the what, we want to know the
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why. We need to know the how because our brain wants to know what,
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why, how. We need to know when, like when would you like to
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arrive there? And then if we say, okay, what
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tools and resources can we use to make that a reality?
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Now we're giving our brain the picture of what we
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want, the emotional capital we need, the step
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by step direction. And not a lot of people, you know, understand
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financial planning. Not a lot of people understand the numbers. Not a lot of
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people understand, you know, how to create a strategic, you know, plan that's
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a linear strategy. And so our brain needs that
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or if we don't have that, then we have doubt, fear, worry,
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uncertainty. And that means that we're not going to take the
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actions required to actually move forward. And
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so we want to almost like, you know, when A rocket ship's about to take
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off. It's like they do these checks and they go, check, check,
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check, checked, and now we can have the ability to take off.
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Our brain does the exact same thing. If all systems are not
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go, we're in a state of stress and fear. And a
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stress and fearful brain that's not trained
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will not take action. Thank you for
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that. That is the perfect segue to the next segment. Overcoming
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limiting beliefs Limiting beliefs about money can block
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financial progress, shaping attitudes toward earning, saving
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and investing. These beliefs, often formed early in
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life, influence financial decisions in ways that may not serve
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long term success. Common limiting beliefs include thoughts
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like money is hard to make or wealth is only for a select
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few. Identifying these patterns allows individuals to
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replace them with more constructive perspectives. Reprogramming techniques
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can shift financial mindsets. Positive affirmations such as I
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am capable of financial success reinforce confidence.
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Gratitude practices help redirect focus toward progress rather than
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scarcity. Visualization and meditation can rewire
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subconscious patterns, making financial goals feel more
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attainable. Financial literacy and understanding money management
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reduces fear and uncertainty, empowering individuals to
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make better financial choices. By replacing negative beliefs with
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empowering ones and applying practical financial knowledge,
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individuals can break mental barriers and cultivate lasting financial
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abundance.
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Srini what happens in the brain when someone tries to
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override a limiting financial belief?
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Well, I'll tell you a brain study that I think addresses this area
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quite nicely. There was a study in which people were given
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a neutral paste and but
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in three different tubes and each tube was labeled
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differently. The first was labeled lidocaine for pain relief.
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The second was labeled capsaicin, which is the active ingredient in Chile.
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And the third was labeled neutral. And what they found was that if
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somebody got the neutral pace that was labeled lidocaine
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because they expected something good to happen. The reward
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center in the brain was actually stimulated. When they
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expected the active ingredient of chili to sting a little, they actually said wow, the
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stings a little. And the pain centers in the brain were activated. And in
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the neutral, in the neutral pace, nothing happened. What this teaches
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us is that in the brain, when you have limited
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beliefs, the brain actually will respond
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accordingly. Whereas when you think in terms of possibility
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rather than probability, I always tell people that if you want an exceptional
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life, by definition, an exception is low
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probability. High probability is having the same amount of money as
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anyone else. If you want a large amount of
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money, you're going to be in a minority. So using
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probabilistic thinking throughout is probably something that won't
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work. Rather, living into a sense of possibility. And activating
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this default mode network in the brain, which does really
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amazing things, can actually help. So when you do
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spend time in possibility thinking, you activate the default
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mode network, which is the dmn, which we used to think of as
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the do mostly nothing network. We used to think, you know, there's nothing. This only
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comes on when you unfocus. However, when your mind is
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wandering and you're thinking about amazing ways in which you could spend this money that
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you're making, this network is turned on. And it is the only
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network in the brain that can properly process
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abstraction and properly process complexity.
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And it's also known as the crystal ball of the human brain because it
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can predict things better than anything else. If you stay stuck
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in your logical brain, which is like, I don't have enough money, I can't find
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a way to actually make this money and so I might as well do
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nothing, then the part of your brain that is wired
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to process complexity, abstraction, and see into the future
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is turned off. For that reason, it's super important to be
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able to start with a sense of possibility, Start with what
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if I could, and then outline what that is. And you
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talk about a cognitive rhythm too. You can't just spend all your
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time doing the tasks on your to do list. You need
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to take a walk so that you're, you
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have this thinking,
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exercising a different part of your brain. Absolutely. And also thinking
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strategically about your day. You know, there's a, there's a video online of Jeff
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Bezos who talks about how he spends his day. And one of the things he
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says is when he gets up, he's generally just looking, reading the
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newspaper, hanging out. And then he
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sets all his high intensity meetings that require
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a lot of brain energy. At times when he knows his energy
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is greatest. And for meetings that don't require that much energy, he
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schedules them when his energy is lowest. But he makes a point that
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he spends a lot of time during the day just
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simply basically allowing this complex circuit in his brain to
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come together, presumably to be able to come up with ideas that
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his logical brain could never come up with.
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John, how does fear of success, rather than fear of
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failure sometimes block people from financial
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abundance? Sure. The
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fear circuit in the brain, whether it's fear of success or fear
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of failure, or fear of being embarrassed or shamed or ridiculed or
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judged, is a fear circuit. And
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responds by sending the, the,
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the neurochemicals associated with fear, whether it's
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cortisol, epinephrine, adrenaline, etc. And
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in most Cases, it puts the brakes on
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motive for action or motivation. We're wired
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for safety and security. We're wired to avoid any pain or
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discomfort. And so if we have a
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fear reaction and we don't know how to turn the
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fear into fuel, because the neurochemicals of fear are actually
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very, very powerful. But what happens with a lot of people
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is if they're afraid of failing or succeeding or being
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embarrassed or ashamed or ridiculed or judged, they want to move away from
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those feelings. And in most cases, it means that they're going to
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retract back into their habitual zone, their
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familiar zone, because they feel safe there. And so
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fear, when you understand that you're usually not
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afraid of what you think you're afraid of, you
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can use that as a way to become
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aware that something is triggering my fear
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circuit. And what I teach in my book, Inner
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Size and also my app, Innersize, is how do I become more
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aware when my fear circuit is activated, and
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how do I turn it off so I can tap back into. And behind
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me you can see I've got Frankie's monster on one side and
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Einstein on the other side. Usually when my fear
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circuits activated, my Frankie's monster is activated, and
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Frankie's monster is going, well, what if you fail? What if you succeed and nobody
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loves you anymore? What if you're abandoned? What if you're embarrassed, ashamed, ridiculed? You're
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judged? Well, taking a few slow, deep breaths
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in through your nose and slowly, slowly,
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slowly out through your mouth, I call that take six. Calm the circuits. You
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want to calm that sympathetic nervous system that's
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firing off those electrical and neurochemical
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releases in our body. And we want to turn back on
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our Einstein brain, you know, which is our
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CEO, executive director, part of our brain. So we
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say, okay, what's causing this fear of success? Like,
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what is it about achieving success that I'm actually wanting to,
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like, not go there? And now we can start to become
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more aware. And in that awareness, we say, oh, I'm
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afraid of being alone or abandoned or being taken advantage
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of. And now we can start to have a healthy inner dialogue
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with us and saying, is that really true? And what
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can I do about that so that it does not happen?
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And we can start to have a healthy understanding that our
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brain wants to protect us, keep us safe, keep us away from real
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or imagined pain. But we can override that
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natural circuit firing around that
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topic with a little bit of inner size, right? Strengthening
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key parts of our brain so we can take action and achieve
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the goals that we actually want to achieve.
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Ellen, your thoughts? I want to
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focus specifically on fear around money.
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So I talk to money, money talks back to me.
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And one of the things that I know from what I hear and when I
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work with people is that people have so much
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fear around money. Fear they're not going to have it. Fear they're going to lose
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it. I've worked with people with hundreds of millions of dollars and
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people with, with very, very limited means.
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And I think people with less money think, well, if I had tons of money,
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why would I ever fear it? But it's just not the case. I think
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that more often than not there's this level of
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anxiety and it is crucial to be able
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to deal with that because when we are freaked out about
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money, In a book called Scarcity, the researchers found that your
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IQ actually drops when your back is up against the
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wall with money. Well, how can you possibly make a good
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decision in if you're freaked out? And
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so it's no small matter to be able to deal
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with our fears around money. There's I, I
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believe that most of the problems in the world
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are from people focusing on lack versus
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abundance. And there's
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ways, like John was saying with taking deep
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breaths and the video talked about with gratitude and
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generosity that are beautiful ways for us to
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lower stress that we have around losing what we have
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or not having enough or making bad decisions with money.
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Thank you. Let's go to segment four. Turning
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financial aspirations into reality requires more than
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visualization. It takes strategic planning and consistent
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action. A clear roadmap bridges the gap between ambition and
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tangible results. The SMART framework helps structure goals,
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set goals that are specific, measurable, achievable,
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relevant, and time bound. Instead of saying I want to save
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money, define a concrete target like I will save
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$5,000 within 12 months. By setting aside
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$417 per month, automation simplifies
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progress. Setting up automatic transfers to savings or investment
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accounts builds consistency and removes the temptation to
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spend. Breaking goals into smaller steps, like reducing
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discretionary expenses or exploring additional income
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streams, keeps momentum going. Tracking progress and
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reviewing financial goals regularly helps maintain
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accountability and allows for necessary adjustments.
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Financial success isn't just about setting intentions. It's about
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following through with actionable steps. By combining
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visualization with execution, financial goals move from ideas
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to reality.
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John, you emphasize action in your work. What's your best advice
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for translating visualization into measurable
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results? So I think it depends on
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who you are. And I don't agree with
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some of the smart goal setting
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because part of Setting big goals
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allows your brain to tap into how could I achieve those big
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goals? But if you don't know how to manage your self, talk and
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manage the emotions of doubt, fear, anxiety,
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stress, etc. By setting big goals, then you shouldn't set
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big goals, set small goals and build a path towards
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those. So it depends on who you are.
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And if we're dealing with beliefs that are limiting you self
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image, that's limiting you fears that are holding you hostage. So we
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want to understand what is in the way of achieving a
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financial goal. And I personally believe that
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most of us can achieve just about whatever financial goal we
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want. Not everybody, but not everybody
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understands how to develop the beliefs and the habits
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and the behaviors that are consistent to achieve the goal.
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So depending on who you are and what your
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experience is with achieving goals versus setting
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goals, because a lot of people set goals, but that is an
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exercise in our conscious mind of what I'd like to do
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in our imagination and our hope center in our
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brain. But if we don't understand the other pieces of
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it, then it's just pie in the sky stuff. And people will not
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achieve their goals unless they figure out, as I mentioned before, what do you want
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to achieve, how do you want to achieve it, when do you want to achieve
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it by how are you going to achieve it, what are the obstacles, what are
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your counter strategies, and then what tools and resources are you going to
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use? For example, like AI, which we can use right
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now, in less than 60 seconds, I could have a plan to achieve
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any financial goal that I want in any of the five pillars of
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earn, manage, invest, protect or get out of debt fast, or use debt as
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leverage. So we have never been at
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a precipice of a moment in history like we are
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right now with AI at our fingertips, with an IQ
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of 120, 140 right now, going to 400, going to
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1,000 in the next couple of years. So
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I don't really believe in smart goals. So AI can help
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you achieve your goals or to put a plan together.
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Faster in 60 seconds or less. I
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shared with all of our students have programs that we coach people on
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this and people that are in their 60s, 70s,
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80s, are like, oh my God, I didn't know how to do this. Here is
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my minute by minute, morning by afternoon, by evening plan
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based on what I want to do or don't want to do, based on what
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I understand and don't understand, where we can give them some
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realistic hope that there is a path
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is if somebody doesn't have hope that there is a
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path for me, then they live in a state of stress and fear.
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And that's not a good place to come from.
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Even though fear can be a great motivator, it's not a good place for most
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people to consistently be under that stress or fear to achieve their
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financial goals. Srini, share with us an
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experience that you've had with your client who is able
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to really see or
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make drastic changes and become more successful.
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Yeah, you know, so I had a client who was, he had everything that
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he needed to make a lot of money. But there were issues
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around his self image and issues around his own fear of being
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free that he hadn't, that he hadn't addressed. And he was
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making a couple hundred thousand dollars a year, which was helpful for him and his
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family. But he eventually evolved within three years
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to having a net worth of more than $50 million. And it's still
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increasing. And part of what I think he addressed is this
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phenomenon that Kierkegaard pointed out, which is that one of the
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things that stands in the way of our goal setting when we want to become
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wealthier is fear and anxiety.
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And what Kierkegaard said was that anxiety is the dizziness of fear,
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freedom. We say we want to be free, but to actually
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be free is really frightening. So if
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you actually sort of say to yourself, you know, I want to have a lot
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of money and I want to be free to do whatever I want to do,
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well, then what's going to happen to my family? And what if I want to
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do my own thing? So, so a lot of things that I think stopped
834
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him were, were the fear that with a lot of wealth
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his lifestyle would change, that somehow at the, at the bottom of it all,
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he would lose his family life. But he found as he went on that he
837
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would, there were ways in which he could apply this to his family life. Now,
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it's not the only factor, but I think that fear does
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actually get in people's ways. And one thing I like to share with people
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when it comes to managing fear is what actually decreases the impact
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of fear on the brain. It's a five step process. The
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first, it's Cirque, defined by the mnemonic circa. The first
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C is to chunk things down, which is something that he did,
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which is, okay, what's my goal now? What's my goal in six months? What's my
845
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goal in 12 months? To ruthlessly prioritize so that you
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pay attention to the things that make you money and to delegate things
847
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that are unnecessary. The eye is for ignore mental chatter, which
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is essentially mindfulness. Sitting back in a chair for even five minutes a
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day, paying attention to your breath. And if your mind
850
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races, just bringing your attention slowly back to your breath.
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The R is for reality check, which is when something horrible
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happens, learning to say this too shall pass. It's a form of self
853
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talk. The second C is control check. How do I focus on
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what I can control rather than waste my brain space with stuff I
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cannot control? And the last thing is A or attention
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shift. How do I shift from the problem to the
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solution? And this is, I think, something that he did sometimes in deliberate
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ways and sometimes in non deliberate ways to free his
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brain up to be able to accommodate this large goal that he had
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and still has. Thank
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you, Ellen. How can the vision board, you talked
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about combining it with a financial plan. So
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can you talk about, are you advocating for
864
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doing them side by side to support one another?
865
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A great way to turn your vision into reality? Because
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what's been mentioned, but I want to double click on, is
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having a vision board and just staring at it and not doing anything
868
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is not usually a way that you're going to get your goals. I once had
869
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someone say to me, oh, vision boards don't work. And I think she
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was just anticipating, like I put these pictures, pretty pictures on
871
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a board and I put it on the wall and I don't take any
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action. And
873
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by combining it with a financial plan, it will
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help you know some of the steps you need to take, especially
875
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for financial goals. Some of the goals you have might be ones that don't
876
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require any money, but maybe require time. And
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I love a good financial plan that builds in
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really all parts of your life. So your time,
879
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your family, your giving goals,
880
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your financial goals. And so
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doing them in lockstep, I think is a wonderful way
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to turn some of those goals into a reality.
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I also wanted to just mention when John was talking about these
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limiting beliefs we may have, I think back about years
885
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ago when I was doing a business plan with my coach at the time,
886
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I realized that as I was writing my goals, I had a
887
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belief that was, oh, I never reach my business goals.
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And so I think these beliefs that we can have are
889
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just like they're the water we swim in. We don't even know we have them.
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And when you have a partner, like a financial advisor, like a good coach,
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it can be helpful to help identify with some of those
892
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goals that are, excuse me, beliefs that are limiting our
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progress actually are.
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Thank you so much. Let's wrap it. Let's bring it home with our last
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segment. Financial success becomes more meaningful when
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it aligns with ethical values and contributes positively to
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society. Balancing wealth creation with purpose fosters long
898
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,752
term prosperity while making a difference. Shifting from a
899
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scarcity mindset to an abundance perspective encourages
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collaboration and generosity. Viewing financial opportunities
901
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as limitless rather than a competition opens doors for
902
00:56:31,964 --> 00:56:35,348
sustainable success. Ethical wealth creation takes many
903
00:56:35,404 --> 00:56:39,060
forms. Impact investing channels capital into ventures that
904
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generate both financial returns and positive social or
905
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:45,956
environmental impact. Businesses that adopt corporate social
906
00:56:46,028 --> 00:56:49,588
responsibility practices such as fair labor policies and
907
00:56:49,644 --> 00:56:53,418
sustainability initiatives. Incentives enhance both profitability and social
908
00:56:53,474 --> 00:56:57,194
impact. Philanthropy plays a key role in purposeful wealth
909
00:56:57,242 --> 00:57:00,522
management. Allocating resources to charitable causes
910
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strengthens communities and reinforces the idea that financial
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success can benefit more than just the individual. By integrating
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ethical principles into financial decisions, wealth becomes a tool
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for positive change.
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Foreign I'm going to go to
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Sereni to see if we can get one more answer out of you. Before you
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have to go, can you comment on the importance of
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meaning, purpose and virtue?
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Oh, you're muted. Sorry. I think meaning
919
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and purpose are incredibly important as they relate to motivating
920
00:57:39,236 --> 00:57:42,852
factors. Because when someone has meaning and purpose and feels aligned with their
921
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vision, the intrinsic motivation is actually increased
922
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and then your ability to execute on that action matters. I think
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virtue is incredible, but I think along with virtue should
924
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,760
come self compassion. Studies on coaching have shown that
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goal oriented coaching is actually less effective than
926
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compassion oriented coaching. And that's in part because if you're only focused
927
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on your goals constantly and you want to remain
928
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a certain way, you know, virtuous in a sense, you will,
929
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you will stop being forgiving towards yourself and your sympathetic nervous
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system is in overdrive. So from time to time I like to
931
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say to people that, that when it comes to our virtues, I
932
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think we all have these light sides, but we also have darker sides
933
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to ourselves. And learning to accept, understand and work with
934
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those things is as important as the virtues that you're speaking
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about. And thank you so much for having me on. I'm sorry that I
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have to drop up, but it's lovely seeing you and interacting with John and Ellen
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as well. Lovely to have you. Thank you for joining. Srini. Thank you.
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Ellen, you did talk about the importance of giving
939
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earlier. How can people balance wealth creation
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with social responsibility so that they don't feel like
941
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they have to sacrifice one over the other?
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First, I want to say that generosity
943
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precedes prosperity. It really is the engine. I get
944
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a little frustrated sometimes when I'll hear people Say, oh, when I have
945
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more money, I'll give back, give forward. It loosens
946
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your grip on money and really helps more flow in. It reduces
947
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our stress level. There's something called subjective wealth that when
948
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we give money to charity, we actually feel like we're wealthier.
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And so in terms of building it into a plan, I think it should be
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part of your plan. I love the idea of giving a percentage of your
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money away because then as your income rises, you proportionately give
952
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more. If your income goes down, you give less. If
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you're working with an advisor to talk about what's important to
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you and how do you actually build that into your plan?
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And it can, of course, from a tactical standpoint,
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bring tax benefits, help you in lots of
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ways financially as well. But
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it's one of my favorite tools for stress
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reduction and prosperity creation is being generous.
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So there are benefits on many levels.
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John, what's your take? You talked about how
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charity in giving is an important part
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of your vision board and your goals. What's
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your take on trying to align your financial success with
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personal values? Yeah, for me, it's right up there with
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oxygen. And I love what Ellen said. I just wrote a gift forward.
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Think about energy. You know, we are energy, our
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thoughts are energy, our behaviors are energy. And when you're in a
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scarcity mindset, right, we can either be in scarcity,
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security, success, or significance. When you're in a scarcity
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mindset and you're holding on as if there's not enough,
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I personally believe now this is going to be a little bit off of off
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topic, but I believe that the universe matches our
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emotional state and our beliefs. So if we believe I need to hold
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on, then the universe holds on. But when we
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release, when we release give forward, the
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universe matches. Almost like we sending out a boomerang that keeps coming back
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to you. We cannot out give the universe. So I
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think there's different ways to give. One
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is, you know, how can we give mentally by being positive, how can we
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give emotionally, how can we give physically, and how can we give
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financially? And when we believe that there's an
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abundance, then the well is never, ever, ever
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dry. But if we hold on, then
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what are we really believing? Do we believe that there's more
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than enough? Do we believe that there's not enough?
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So, you know, our company gives 1% of our gross revenues
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and my wife and I and children give a percentage of our
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income every month as a way of
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believing and behaving in alignment with
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abundance. And that creates a mindset
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it creates an emotional state. It creates this
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ripple effect that I believe,
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you know, this tithing mindset is critical for
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success and it has served me well, it served our family
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well. And I believe you've got to be a go giver and a go
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getter. And I've always taught my children, you know, use some
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of your money for your well being and fun. Save some of it and give
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some of it away and you'll always have more than enough.
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And both my kids in their late 20s have more than
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enough. I love that balanced approach to life.
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Ellen, any closing thought before you have to go?
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My closing thought is I love Andy, that you're having this
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conversation. You know, I started in financial services many years
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ago and you would not have had a vision board conversation
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from someone with your credentialed background. You would not have had a
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conversation about our belief system. And
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still it's not being had enough. So I just want to thank you for
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the work that you're doing in the world and thank you for
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inviting me to be on the show with you. Thank you,
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Ellen. Thank you for joining today. John, any final
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thought from you? Listen, my final
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thoughts. I'm going to echo what Ellen said. It's great to meet Ellen and to
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connect with my buddy Srini. There's more than enough for all
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of us and when we can get some of the
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tools in place, right, and use this $100 billion
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bio computer that we have by giving it the vision board for the
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visuals and the emotions, the planning that's
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required to take care of another part of our brain that
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needs to know, well, how am I going to make enough money
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or manage my money better and invest it so that at a certain
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point in my life I have this financial and emotional freedom and
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choice freedom. When we combine the different facets
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of our brain with the right
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behaviors, we have a lot of hope
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in us that we can actually achieve the goals, the vision, the life
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that we want. And I believe that everybody has the
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ability to make measurable progress when they have the
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right tools, the right environment and the right
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team. Thank you, John. This has been
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an incredible conversation and as Ellen
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alluded to a little bit of a crazy topic for a financial
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advisor, maybe unexpected, but I think if
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there's one takeaway from today's discussion is that a vision board
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isn't just a collage of pretty pictures. It is very
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much a tool to train your brain to focus your energy to take
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action toward financial success. So a huge thank
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you to John Srini and Ellen who highlighted the science
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behind visualization, the power of belief, how to
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bridge the gap between dreaming and doing, taking
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action. But here's the thing. A vision board only
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works if you use it. So my challenge for you this week
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is to take 10 minutes of your own finance. Well, take 10
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minutes to start your own financial vision board. Grab a piece of
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paper, open a digital board, create a simple
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list of images and words that represent your goals and just start
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because clarity leads to action. And then share your
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progress with progress with me. Tag me on LinkedIn or social
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media, send me a message. I'd love to hear what
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you're working on and how it's working out. A shout out to the
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Inspired Money team. We're small but mighty. Excellent segment
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edits by Bradley John, Eagle Feather and Graphic graphic
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animations by Chad Lawrence. Thanks to our amazing
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panelists. One more time. Be sure to follow them and learn more about
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them. You can find John Asaraf, known as the brain
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whisperer. He's CEO of myneurogym.com
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a couple, well, several books. Very well known for the
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answer Having it All. I have to mention the
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complete Vision Board kit since that was our subject today in
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Inner Size, which is both a book and an app. You can find
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him at www.johnasseraf.com. John did you want to share any other
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websites or anything? Yeah, I mean if anybody wants
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to literally train their brain on the stuff that we've talked about. I've
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got an Amazon number one best selling book that called Inner Size. But I have
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an app with over 600 brain training inner size that
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use visualization and mindfulness and affirmations for money and
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wealth and leadership and self confidence. And so check out the app either
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in the App store or at innersize.com. Perfect. Thank
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you John. You can find Dr. Srini Pillay. He
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has several books too. Check out Tinker Dabble Doodle Try: Unlock
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the power of the unfocused mind. He also has Life Unlocked.
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Check that out. You can find him at www.drsrinipillayy.com
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or also
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his Neuro Business Group which is nbgcorporate.com
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and Ellen Rogin, money
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expert, financial intuitive. You can find her at
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www.ellenrogin.com. A
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couple
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of books, Messages From Money and Picture Your
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Prosperity. Thank you everyone for joining us. I thank
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you. Inspired Money Maker. The next Inspired Money episode will
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be Retirement income maximizing returns
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for financial freedom. That's scheduled for
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next week, Wednesday, March 19th. I
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look forward to seeing you. Then, until next time, do
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something that scares you. Because that's where the magic happens. Thanks, everyone.