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Welcome to the Inspiration Contagion Podcast
where we spread inspiration one story at a
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time.
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I am your host Holly Jean Jackson.
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Each episode, spot and interviews 1 and others
through inspiration.
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If you are a visionary seeking to up level your
leadership skills, then this is the podcast for
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you.
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I invite you today to spread inspiration like a
contagion.
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Welcome to the inspiration Contagion Movement.
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Welcome to episode 40 of the Inspiration
Contagion Podcast.
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This week's guest is Erin Mack, Aaron is a
business coach and workshop facilitator.
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So welcome, Aaron.
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Good morning.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Yeah.
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It's so great to have you here.
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So, Erin, would you tell us a little bit more
about your background and your story?
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Okay.
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So, I let's see.
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So I was, I I've been an entrepreneur for 21
years.
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I sort of by a fluke, which I don't really
actually believe in now, but at the time, I
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threw this business together thinking, oh, you
know, I'll just kinda do this thing and see
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what happens and it completely took off.
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And, prior to that, I had moved to Hawaii so
that I could have a simpler life.
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And, and I had Jean having some emotional,
difficulties.
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I had gone through some pretty major counseling
and, had created a, an anxiety disorder.
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And, we can talk about how I created it and how
I know that it's created by myself and others.
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A little bit later, but so that's what prompted
me to move to Hawaii and find a different life.
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And I thought that it was gonna be the location
that made every thing, simpler, come to find
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out that in my mind, it was busy.
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And so I just kept creating things over and
over again that were stressful and emotionally
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challenging.
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And you know, went through a few, marriages and
divorces and landed about 2 years ago, no, 3
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years ago, in this really low place.
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And I had been doing self development for a
decade.
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I had gone to all these seminars.
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I worked for a seminar company, And, I just
couldn't take all the information that I had
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used and put it into my life at the moment.
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I was just so distraught.
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And, for some reason, I was called to, this
book.
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And as I was reading the book, it was the
experience was that The words that were, like,
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in bold that kept coming out were you're meant
to be in joy.
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You're meant to live a life and joy.
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I literally would read it.
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It was a book that has, you know, a passage
that you read every day for a year.
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And every time I would read the passage, all I
could see in bold with these words joy, meant
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to be in joy.
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And I thought this is a very strange
experience.
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And as it were, I, because of the other seminar
company that I was involved in, they, had
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introduced me to Mike Holly, who was a
contributor to the book The Secret.
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And, he had sent an email saying that there was
a, There was a workshop coming up.
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And, I signed up to go to the workshop without
even knowing what it was about, and I flew to,
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Oahu, to take the workshop.
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And then when I got there, it was a workshop on
the visualization process.
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And, I went home and There was a bunch of
things going on in my life.
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My business that I had had for 18 years was had
been for sale for 6 months with no offers.
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My broker was asking me, to consider lowering
the part lowering the price but I was clear
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that it was gonna happen at the price that I
had put it on the market form.
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And, as I said, I was, you know, was going
through a divorce, and I was in a low place.
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And, so I went to the seminar.
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I came back.
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I used the tools, the visualization tools, and
everything in my life just completely lined up.
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I had when I came back, I was so inspired.
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I called my broker, and I was like, listen.
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I just wanna let you know my business is gonna
sell by the end of the month, and there's gonna
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be bidding and he was like, okay.
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I haven't he had no place to put that
information.
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And so he and then a week later, it went into
bidding wars, my business sold, a few weeks
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after that, I went and trained under Mike
Holly, and I started teaching his courses,
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infinite possibilities.
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And, and that's when I realized what my path
was, my purpose was to, inspire others to find
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their joy And and then as it were several
months later, I figured out not only how to
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find my joy, but how to cultivate on a daily
basis.
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And so that is what I teach people, typically
entrepreneurs because having, you know, being
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1, that's who I relate to.
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So that was the long answer, but, yes, that's
what I'm about.
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No.
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That was perfect.
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I love the infinite possibilities piece, the
visualization or and I love that your vision is
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to help others find their joy and keep it.
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And I know especially for entrepreneurs, that's
important because when we're not in a place of
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feeling joy or passion or excited about the
business we're building or the business we're
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scaling, it Jean be quite difficult.
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So it's really important to keep our joy.
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Otherwise, we get burnt out or overwhelmed.
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So that's beautiful that you do work with like
that with entrepreneurs.
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So, Erin, I wanted to ask you because this is
inspiration contagion.
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What makes you an inspirational leader or what
your secret sauce?
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So, you know, lea tailing on to that story that
I just told.
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What I recognized, shortly after all of the
what I just explained to you was that, I was a
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thinker and, you know, a constant, you know,
panic mode, or fight or flight or whatever you
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wanna call those things.
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And I recognize through the process of
basically starting over.
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You know, I had my business for 18 years.
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Once it sold, And I decided to go in this
different direction and, you know, try and and
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inspire people and lead a life that was
inspirational, there was some holes in that.
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And so I, had some life changing events happen
when I read a couple of books.
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One was a reread, and the other one was, the
first time I had had it, although I had
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possession of the book for at least a decade,
and I was afraid to read it.
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And, through those books, what I recognized was
that the thinking that I was doing had 0 it was
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of zero use to any circumstance.
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Basically, what I was wanting to create was a
different experience in my life.
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And the overthinking brain doesn't allow that.
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It basically pulls from the past and then tells
you that everything or has you believe that
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everything is, Everything is the same.
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Like, every scenario is the same.
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Every, circumstance is the same.
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And so when you live your life that way, then
it is the same, even if it's different people.
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And so, you know, in terms of relationship,
That's why we continue to have the same
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relationships with people is because we do
relationships one way.
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And so when I was able to recognize this piece
through, being inspired by these books and
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learning some new tools, I was able to quiet my
mind to the point where I could let inspiration
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come in.
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And so a lot of the times when I'm working with
clients, it's about How do you quiet the
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overthinking mind so that you can let in what's
supposed to be there?
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And right now, as it were, I'm writing a book,
on, I don't have the title solidified yet, but
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the gist is that the addiction to anxiety and
overwhelm, and what that looks like in terms of
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the mind body connection, what you're doing to,
continue to release the hormones that you do
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when you keep experiencing life the thinking
things and how the strategies and tools on how
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to quiet the mind and begin to change that
because I believe that change happens in three
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steps.
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1 is awareness that something is not okay and
you need to move on The second is the
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strategies and tools, and the third is the
practice piece.
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While it is, you know, simple, the tools and
the strategy, it's not always easy to rewire
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the brain.
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And so that's where the inspiration comes from
is when you can quiet the mind and let the
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purpose in.
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And it's really I'm I'm actually quite
interested in reading your book on that
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addiction to anxiety and overwhelm because I
feel like these days people are more addicted
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to overthinking, which leads to that addiction
of anxiety and overwhelm than ever.
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And I don't know if it's tied to social media
or I'm sure you have insights on that, but, it
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it's so important that we learn to quiet the
mind I I'm noticing during COVID, people are,
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you know, numbing out through Netflix or
staying really busy but that's not the solution
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because then they're not implementing the right
practices to make change in transformation.
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It's really about getting quiet, and that takes
a lot of time and strategy and practice to make
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happen.
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Yeah.
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Quiet in the mind is easy as that may be sounds
for somebody like me having been there.
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I mean, that was I I believed, and I believe
most people believe this.
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That they are their mind, that they are their
emotions, and their thoughts.
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And the reality is is we are not our thoughts
in our emotions.
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And the reason I know that is because if you
can recall your thoughts and your emotions, who
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is it that's recalling them?
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So that makes the separation between those two
things.
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And one of the things that I do with a lot of
my coaching clients is create that separation.
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The idea that you are the spectator of what's
going on.
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So, you know, the visual I try to get them to
think is, you know, think of you, many you
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that's like 2 inches tall inside your brain in
the middle of your brain looking out through
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your eye as though you're watching like a
tennis match and just see what's going on.
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And when you can create that space, that space
gives you the time to respond versus react.
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So then we slow down that process of this
person or that situation is making me feel this
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way.
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It's like, no.
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This situation is happening outside of myself.
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And inside of myself, I get to dictate the
response versus being in reaction all the time.
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So it's the slowing down of what's happening in
a life so that you can see it for what it is
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versus, you know, using that piece that I was
talking about before, which is using your
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history to dictate the future, now you can be
begin to be in the present and create from
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their is the past.
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Yeah.
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And that's such a great reminder for people
that we are not our emotions.
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We are not our thoughts And for those of us
that are anxious or addicted to anxiety and
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overwhelm, that means that the awareness pieces
where we realize that when we start having
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those negative thoughts, those anxious
thoughts.
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We don't have to react by going down that
spiral.
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We can actually distance ourselves and realize
oh, wow.
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This is a pattern for me.
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I am aware that I'm experiencing some anxious
thoughts, and I can choose something else.
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And so like you said, that separation is so
important and being more of the observer kind
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of a Buddhist tendency is really empowering
because it allows us to have spaciousness and
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to pivot that mindset pretty quickly.
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I love that.
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So, Erin, I'd love to hear from you.
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What does inspiration mean to you?
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Inspiration is let's see.
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How do I for me, the experience is when and
maybe this is a little loo, but when something
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speaks to my soul, Right.
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So that moment where, like, all all is right in
the world, you know, where I am so in alignment
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with whatever the information is that I'm
taking in.
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However, I'm taking that in and understanding
that it's a Jean knowing.
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Right?
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So it's we were, you know, from a from birth
meant to live this life of joy and tap into the
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deepest knowing of ourselves, and we distract
us ourselves with all of these things.
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And, and so one of the rituals that I do every
morning as I read something that speaks to my
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soul, from there are several books that I
choose, that that do speak to my soul.
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And I I can't help but have a day of alignment
when I start that way.
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Aside from the other practices that I do, which
are visualization and meditation, this the part
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that speaks to your soul, I think why it does
that is because it allows us to be in community
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with somebody else knowing that we're not the
only ones that feel this way and that that Jean
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knowing assures us that that all is is okay
right here and right now.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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And that makes a lot of sense because if we're
not defined by our emotions and our thoughts.
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That's not who we are.
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There's something else.
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So you can call it a soul.
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You can call it something else, whatever you
want that to be for you.
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But, yeah, it's it's really having that faith
and that knowingness inside that this is what I
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meant to do and things feel aligned, things
feel peaceful.
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It feels quiet.
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It feels empowered.
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I also love that you shared that you have a way
you start your day with things that speak to
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your soul and visualization.
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I also use meditation affirmation work and
visualization every morning, and I read, like,
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a short excerpt from this mindfulness book that
has, like, one page every day you can read
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about something that's really powerful for
being mindful in life.
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And I agree when I have my morning routine, my
day is amazing.
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The few days where I am off track and I skip
those, I do not have a great day because I'm
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not aligned.
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I'm not listening to my soul, and I haven't
started my day on the right foot.
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It's kind of like medicine for the soul
starting every morning that way.
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Jean.
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I agree.
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I Jean, and even so the visualization process
that I teach and that I've learned was really
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about Less about I mean, it it's definitely a
visualization process.
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So you are visualizing something, but it's more
about What will it feel like when you have all
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the things that you said that you wanted?
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And the feeling piece is really momentum piece.
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And so when you start your day in that place,
like, how could you have a bad day, right,
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because if you're thinking day in the life,
everything you ever wanted.
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And that includes all the stuff.
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I'm a 100% all in on abundance in every way,
shape, or form.
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But also, you know, I think when we get to the
end of life, we're not thinking, I wish I had a
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mask more money or more things.
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We think we're really thinking, I wish I'd have
more deep meaningful relationships with the
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people that I love are just with everybody.
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Right?
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And so you know, imagining not for the or
visualizing and imagining not for the purpose
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of creating all the stuff.
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And, again, love all the stuff.
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It's all in my visualization, but recognizing
that it's the feeling piece that we're for, and
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that's the cultivation piece.
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So I found, in my journey, I found joy through
the visualization process.
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I was like, oh my, Like, I would get so into my
visualizations to have that emotional
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experience, because that, again, is what I
think is the most important piece of that.
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That I would like, you know, I would like be in
tears of joy and, like, like, I raised my arms.
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I'm like, yes.
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Yes.
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I mean, how could you not be in higher
vibrational state when you're just like, yes.
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This is happening.
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Yes.
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I have all those things.
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And, and then again, like, how could you not
have an amazing day if you're not start if
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you're starting from that place.
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There's just no way to not, like, make it
happen.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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And that's an important reminder that when we
are a realizing that future goal, those future
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things.
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It doesn't have to be physical things.
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It could be impact you have on people's lives.
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It could be that really intimate relationship
with a partner or just intimate relationships
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all around the world, it is so in powering when
you feel that.
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And when you tap into that, it just makes
everything that for that day exciting and
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motivating.
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And even the tedious things or the mundane
things because they're getting you closer to
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that goal, you're excited because you're living
that end goal today.
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And I feel like for a lot of people, sometimes
their big goals are so far removed that it's
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hard for them to grasp that today.
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So that's why visualization is so powerful
because it allows us to tap into that future
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state and live from that future state so that
creating it is much easier.
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There are fewer obstacles.
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So, Erin oh, go ahead.
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Oh, and I was gonna say, you know, isn't that
what we really want?
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It's not the things that we think we want.
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Right?
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It's the how we're gonna feel when we have the
things.
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Right?
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So why not feel that way now today?
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And you know, and the things come or they don't
come and who cares, right, because you're
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having a great experience.
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Yeah.
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And, I mean, I guess, another way to put that
is if you're living your purpose every day and
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you're visualizing and feeling that achieved
purpose every day, how can you not have a great
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day and how can you not have joy?
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Yeah.
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I think, you know, of course, our society, we
sorta I think we just got it wrong a little
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bit.
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You know, like, I love nice things too.
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Love them.
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Great.
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But, you know, the things that make the
memories, the, like, things that make you feel
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good Aren't isn't the stuff, isn't the, you
know, I'm gonna feel better when I get to that
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destination, piece you know, and, you know,
talking about addiction, like, we're Holly,
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like, the society often is very addicted to
because that's all we saw.
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Right?
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Every commercial, everything is like, you know,
when you have the car, then you're gonna be
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success When you have the money, then you'll be
successful.
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When you have the girl, the guy, whatever, then
you'll be successful.
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And the reality is is, success, the idea of
success that we've sort of been fed, is has
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little meaning.
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It's it doesn't speak to the deepest part of
us.
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And, and I think that's kind of if I'm not
mistaken, what we're all sort of looking for is
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that happiness joy peace and, and it's not in
the stuff, unfortunately.
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Holly, and that's a perfect segue to my next
question.
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So so, Erin, how do you define success for
yourself and how did you arrive at this
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definition?
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I don't use that word very often, because it
has a strange you know, for me, almost, well, I
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don't believe in positive or negative or right
or wrong.
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Like, I don't believe those exist.
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We are in And the only thing we are in control
of is us and how we respond to this life.
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And so, you know, if there's somebody that does
something that I'm not interested in, I I don't
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see that as right or wrong.
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I just see it as different.
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And so in terms of success, I, for me, if I can
impact, if I can live my best life by, quieting
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my mind, being in response versus reaction, and
inspiring others to do the same so that they
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can find and cultivate their joy, then to me,
that is the ultimate, you know, every time I
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get off a client call, I just I feel like I
couldn't be any more in my purpose.
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And to me, that is like, amazing.
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And when I think of building my business, the
business really looks like how can I impact
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more people to live their best life in whatever
that looks like for them, and find their joy
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and be able to cultivate that regularly and
have those meaningful relationships and and the
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stuff too?
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Like, why not throw it all in?
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We deserve it.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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We do.
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I love that.
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That's a beautiful definition with that.
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So, Erin, on the way to figuring out the joy
and the success and all that, there are
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typically challenges and obstacles.
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So what are some of the challenges and tools
that you faced along your journey to finding
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that joy?
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Yeah.
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So I'd alluded to the the anxiety disorder that
I created.
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And this might sort of agitate some folks
because a lot of people, ascribe to, you know,
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anxiety disorders being something that is out
of their control or genetic or whatever the
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circumstances.
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And, I wanna say that It's not about blame.
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Like, where does, you know, but the 2 tenets
that I teach from are the One is that your
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dominant thoughts are what create your reality.
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If you believe that's true, which I don't think
is a stretch for most people.
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You think and think, like, I wanna get my
degree in college.
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So you think and think and think and you do all
the stuff and you get through college and you
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get your degree.
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Right?
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So we do it all the time.
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Unaware.
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The second piece of that is if one is true, if
your dominant thoughts create your reality,
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then 2 is taking personal responsibility for
what you've created.
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Now taking personal responsibility to some
folks is very challenging because it it goes to
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blame for them.
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And this is not a blame thing.
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This is an empowering thing.
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This is if that's true and I am responsible for
creating what it is I have in my life, then I
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can uncreate the things that I do not like and
create what it is I do want.
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And so what I know now is that The anxiety
disorder came up because I was in a counseling
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situation.
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And, I have zero issue with counselors.
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The issue I have is that the subconscious brain
does not recognize what is happening at this
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moment and what has happened in the past.
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So when you recall stories and in counseling,
you're typically recalling trauma and bad
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things, right?
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Are bad seeming things.
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And you continue to tell the story over and
over again.
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The subconscious mind thinks it's happening all
over again.
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And so what happened and how I created my
anxiety disorder was through that process of
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going over and over and over again on all the
things, you know, all the hurts and the traumas
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and the, you know, they did me wrong and all
that stuff.
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And typically when work with a client.
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One of the very first things I do is I ask them
to tell me my story, which everybody tells you
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all the junky stuff.
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And then I say, okay.
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The first lesson is you don't get to tell that
story again.
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I don't ever wanna hear you say it aloud.
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I don't want you to say it in your mind
anymore.
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I don't want you to agree with somebody else
who's had that story.
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You know, we like to get in community with
people or bond through our, our bad stories,
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right?
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Like, oh, I was abused too when I was a kid or
I was, you know, whatever.
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Wrong to this way when I was a kid or bullied
or whatever.
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And, so what happens is when you stop that
story, you begin to see that that story, again,
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is not you.
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It's it's an event that happened or several or
series of events that happened.
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But it's not you, not the deeper essence of who
you are.
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And when you continue to relate to yourself
through that story, then that story lives on.
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And that story, you do not deserve that story.
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That the store that story does not empower you
to create the future that you want.
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And so through all of the work that I've done,
I recognize that anxiety disorder came through
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because of that story over and over and over
again.
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And and not telling that story you know, if you
asked me what the story was, I could tell you
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the story, but because I've not said it in so
long, the distance between that story and
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myself I'm not connected to it anymore.
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It doesn't have any energy for me anymore.
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And that's where people need to get because,
again, you're not your emotions.
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You're not that story, and you don't have to be
that story.
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You don't have to refer to it to be okay.
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Actually, it's it's when we don't that we get
to the joy piece.
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Yeah.
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And that that actually explains a lot, as
you're explaining the therapist and the process
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of repeating stories and repeating the stuff
that's happened to us.
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It really explains a lot for, I imagine, a lot
of people that are listening.
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And and stories are so powerful.
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Right?
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They really take root in us, and they plant
these deep seeds.
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And so I love your approach of recognizing
those stories, those patterns you want to break
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those things that you're not happy with in your
life and then getting distance from that story.
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Don't repeat it in your mind.
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Out loud.
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Don't relate to it.
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Until, like you said, you have that distance,
and it's like you're telling somebody else's
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story because there's no energetic pole in it.
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And I think this is so important as you know,
what stories are you repeating in your life
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that you'd wanna get rid of?
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And then identify it one last time.
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And remove it so that you can get that distance
and create a new story so that you can take
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empowerment and and ownership of your future.
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So I love that, Erin.
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That's really great.
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I absolutely believe that, you know, the
premise of my book, the addiction to anxiety
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and overwhelm lies in that piece right there.
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It's pulling again from that story, from the
past.
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And thinking that that's who we are, you know,
and and recreating that whatever the, you know,
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whatever the underlying belief was that we
decided about our self at a young age.
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And I'll tell you, I believe that everybody has
the same one, which is I'm not good enough.
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I don't deserve.
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I'm not lovable.
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We all got that message.
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Even I've had students in my classes that had
wonderful childhoods where their parents were,
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you know, very balanced, and it was a wonderful
thing.
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And they're still struggling with this piece.
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So I think it's just part of the human
condition that we don't believe that we're good
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enough, and it's okay.
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And, when we recognize that and can use tools
to rewire the brain to understand that that is
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not who we are, the deepest essence of who we
are, then we can let in actually who we are.
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Yeah.
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That's beautiful.
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So, Erin, I was wondering if there's a story of
inspiration that you're known for that you can
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share with our listeners.
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Oh, boy.
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Story of inspiration.
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I think, you know, just So the reason that I
became a business coach was because the
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sensation that I had when I was running my
business was that I was literally running
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around every day, putting out fires all day
long.
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And, you know, part of that is what we've
already talked about this whole, like, thinking
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over thinking, you know, being in action to
things all all day long every day.
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And when I recognize that, it doesn't need to
be that way, I mean, and as you know, I'm sure
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in your coaching business, the the people who
are attracted to me are the same people that
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are me, right, in a in a different version.
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And so what ends up happening is that I get
this incredible honor of paving the way for the
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entrepreneurs that are, you know, that I speak
to.
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00:31:10,339 --> 00:31:18,934
Personally, that, you know, align with me or,
you know, are attracted to my vibration or
444
00:31:18,934 --> 00:31:21,994
however, or my energy or whatever you have, you
wanna put that.
445
00:31:22,295 --> 00:31:25,835
I get to walk them through the process.
446
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:33,679
Of slowing all of that down and doing business
differently and being aligned and being in the
447
00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:34,179
flow.
448
00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:42,005
And then you know, getting the advantage of,
you know, the pieces, you know, the reason that
449
00:31:42,005 --> 00:31:47,150
we start businesses, which is really about you
know, time flexibility and being able to
450
00:31:47,150 --> 00:31:48,289
dictate your income.
451
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:51,309
I mean, that's what being an entrepreneur is
about.
452
00:31:51,309 --> 00:31:57,994
And I get to walk these people who are, you
know, were just like me that are running around
453
00:31:58,054 --> 00:32:03,429
feeling like they're chicken with their head
cut all day long dealing with clients and
454
00:32:03,429 --> 00:32:06,009
employees and all the stuff.
455
00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:13,825
And I get to be that, like, hour of of, calm
and slow down for them.
456
00:32:13,825 --> 00:32:20,440
And then I get to just walk them through this
path of How do I experience this, you know,
457
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,399
business life?
458
00:32:21,399 --> 00:32:26,434
Because as you know, you can separate business
and personal you want, but they're the same.
459
00:32:27,375 --> 00:32:34,255
And so, you know, just walking them through
this process of slowing down and quieting the
460
00:32:34,255 --> 00:32:41,960
mind and being in alignment and helping them,
experience this life very differently.
461
00:32:42,535 --> 00:32:48,934
Life is gonna go on however it does outside of
us and, you know, and how we experience it.
462
00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:51,095
That's the thing that we can actually control.
463
00:32:51,095 --> 00:32:54,789
Everything else is you know, it's gonna happen
how it happens, and, you know, we can move
464
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:59,829
energy in different directions, but, we don't
we don't get to control any of that.
465
00:32:59,829 --> 00:33:05,285
Besides which, you know, I believe that, you
know, oh, universe god, whatever, you know,
466
00:33:05,285 --> 00:33:08,644
looking down is really a topographical view.
467
00:33:08,644 --> 00:33:14,450
It's like, it feels like I'm in the trenches
right now, but just around the corner, like
468
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:17,269
Jean hour away or a day away or a week away.
469
00:33:17,424 --> 00:33:22,325
A whole another something is gonna happen, and
that's super exciting.
470
00:33:23,424 --> 00:33:24,724
That is super exciting.
471
00:33:24,784 --> 00:33:25,284
Yeah.
472
00:33:25,589 --> 00:33:32,069
It feels like we're building and suffering and
working and digging right now, but I think that
473
00:33:32,069 --> 00:33:38,034
honestly the more challenging that creative
processes or that thing that we're trying to
474
00:33:38,034 --> 00:33:40,934
achieve is it makes the summit that much
sweeter.
475
00:33:41,049 --> 00:33:45,929
So sometimes the most challenging moments in my
life, I know it's just gonna be that much
476
00:33:45,929 --> 00:33:47,390
sweeter on the other side.
477
00:33:47,529 --> 00:33:48,809
And I completely agree.
478
00:33:48,809 --> 00:33:50,595
How we do life is how we do life.
479
00:33:50,595 --> 00:33:55,414
There's, you know, not really the separation
between business and personal life.
480
00:33:55,554 --> 00:34:00,355
We like to pretend that it's there, but the
reality is is that, you know, how we are in our
481
00:34:00,355 --> 00:34:02,730
purse a life shows up in our business life.
482
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:07,269
And so we have to make sure that we are showing
up as the best version of ourselves, and we're
483
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:11,855
in that space of joy, and we have that quiet in
our minds, and we're leading others by example.
484
00:34:12,635 --> 00:34:13,614
So I love that.
485
00:34:14,155 --> 00:34:16,894
So, Erin, you identified as a movement leader.
486
00:34:17,269 --> 00:34:21,210
I'd love for you to tell the listeners about a
movement that you've built.
487
00:34:22,789 --> 00:34:28,565
So I'm actually in the process of building that
movement and it is around this anxiety
488
00:34:28,704 --> 00:34:30,484
addiction piece and overwhelm.
489
00:34:31,984 --> 00:34:39,029
I think, you know, as much as everybody would
like to think, oh, the COVID, oh, the
490
00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:47,715
political, oh, the injustices, and all those
things, these are just opportunities for us to
491
00:34:47,715 --> 00:34:54,730
use what we know, the tools that we have, to be
strong in in our, you know, Jean knowing of
492
00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:55,230
ourselves.
493
00:34:56,089 --> 00:35:03,375
And for those that are having a difficult time,
This is that opportunity that's saying, okay.
494
00:35:03,675 --> 00:35:06,315
You know, it's it's always gonna be something.
495
00:35:06,315 --> 00:35:10,670
The one guarantee that we have in life is that,
is changing all the time.
496
00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:15,710
And so why not learn those pieces of resiliency
now?
497
00:35:15,905 --> 00:35:18,805
Why not learn those tools and strategies now?
498
00:35:19,265 --> 00:35:24,900
This anxiety piece is really about one of the
things I wanted to talk about was I recognize
499
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:31,920
through that counseling process that the
anxiety so you were talking about summit.
500
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:38,075
So I kept thinking, I'll tell you the anxiety
disorder got so difficult that I really hold
501
00:35:38,075 --> 00:35:40,414
myself up in my apartment for about a year.
502
00:35:41,195 --> 00:35:49,140
I was, extremely afraid to go outside, to go
and do just even the things that you absolutely
503
00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:54,855
have to do by food you know, I would have to go
through all these rituals just to get outside
504
00:35:54,914 --> 00:35:57,015
to drive the car to do all the things.
505
00:35:57,635 --> 00:36:00,889
And, and my life became very narrow.
506
00:36:01,190 --> 00:36:07,565
But what I recognized through that counseling
process was that you know, the anxiety kept
507
00:36:07,565 --> 00:36:08,925
getting worse and worse and worse.
508
00:36:08,925 --> 00:36:15,030
I had to quit my job and, and the symptoms just
kept getting worse and worse and worse.
509
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:16,309
And then they topped out.
510
00:36:16,309 --> 00:36:17,109
I mean, they were bad.
511
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:19,289
Obviously, I'm holding myself up in my
apartment.
512
00:36:20,309 --> 00:36:27,135
But on the other side of that anxiety when I
did finally begin to get relief, there was
513
00:36:27,135 --> 00:36:28,034
nothing there.
514
00:36:28,819 --> 00:36:35,619
All of that anxiety was a defense mechanism to
hold on to something that I thought was gonna
515
00:36:35,619 --> 00:36:41,034
be some big on the other end And the reality is
is there was nothing there.
516
00:36:41,034 --> 00:36:42,494
There was no big surprise.
517
00:36:42,714 --> 00:36:49,340
Oh, maybe I had, you know, hidden some trauma
back in my brain that I just wasn't willing to
518
00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:49,840
acknowledge.
519
00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:50,619
No.
520
00:36:50,619 --> 00:36:52,640
There was literally nothing there.
521
00:36:52,860 --> 00:36:58,234
So I got to the top of the most amount of
anxiety I could deal with.
522
00:36:58,694 --> 00:37:02,875
And when I got to the other side, there was
nothing or nobody there.
523
00:37:03,139 --> 00:37:11,299
And so what I wanna say is as debilitating as
anxiety and overwhelm can feel, it really is a
524
00:37:11,299 --> 00:37:12,735
signal for something else.
525
00:37:12,894 --> 00:37:14,175
Not about that.
526
00:37:14,175 --> 00:37:15,555
It's not about suffering.
527
00:37:15,695 --> 00:37:24,089
It's not about it is the wanting to hold on to
something to protect the deepest part of you,
528
00:37:24,309 --> 00:37:27,130
and that dissonance is what's creating the
anxiety.
529
00:37:27,989 --> 00:37:35,724
So know that if you are in that place at the
moment and you're struggling, there is another
530
00:37:35,865 --> 00:37:38,099
way It's not easy.
531
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,400
It is simple, but it's not easy.
532
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:46,579
And it requires practice because to get to this
state, you have been practicing this way.
533
00:37:46,804 --> 00:37:49,304
And now you're gonna need to practice a
different way.
534
00:37:49,925 --> 00:37:50,324
Yeah.
535
00:37:50,324 --> 00:37:50,644
No.
536
00:37:50,644 --> 00:37:53,765
That's powerful for sure, and it does take
time.
537
00:37:53,765 --> 00:38:00,329
It does take diligent And that's also a good
point that sometimes on the other side of what
538
00:38:00,329 --> 00:38:06,265
we're trying to release, there can be nothing,
and it could just be because we're resisting
539
00:38:06,405 --> 00:38:08,644
something and having trouble letting go.
540
00:38:08,644 --> 00:38:13,925
And and the letting go process is oftentimes
the most difficult piece, but when we let go,
541
00:38:13,925 --> 00:38:21,109
it actually releases something energetically,
spiritually, physically so we can then have
542
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:22,894
space for what we are.
543
00:38:22,894 --> 00:38:27,554
Trying to create what we do want to create,
that's gonna be a more joyous lifestyle.
544
00:38:27,614 --> 00:38:31,554
So I'm excited to see that movement you're
building around releasing anxiety.
545
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:37,309
So, Aaron, what are some of the pillars to
building a movement that catches fire for this
546
00:38:37,309 --> 00:38:39,489
movement you're visualizing and building?
547
00:38:42,085 --> 00:38:47,125
I think, you know, we've talked about it
without maybe even saying, well, we've talked
548
00:38:47,125 --> 00:38:47,925
about it a little bit.
549
00:38:47,925 --> 00:38:52,989
I think it's really about when you are fully in
alignment with what it is.
550
00:38:52,989 --> 00:39:00,394
You know, the first time I taught, the infinite
possibilities workshop, it was crazy because I
551
00:39:00,394 --> 00:39:04,715
had, you know, put together written out
everything I was gonna say and had all the, you
552
00:39:04,715 --> 00:39:06,175
know, syllabus and everything.
553
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:13,420
And when I stood in front of the class, within
a few minutes, I had ditched my notes.
554
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:21,554
It was a culmination of everything that I had
learned on my own through other people just
555
00:39:21,554 --> 00:39:22,994
all, like, flooded in.
556
00:39:22,994 --> 00:39:25,735
It was a synergy of all of that happening at
once.
557
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:33,449
And when those moments happen, that's the
pillar to any movement is when you are so in
558
00:39:33,449 --> 00:39:36,785
alignment with and there is no going back.
559
00:39:36,785 --> 00:39:37,184
Right?
560
00:39:37,184 --> 00:39:42,519
There's no way that I can live my life the way
I used to.
561
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,739
There's no way that I could knowing what I know
now.
562
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:53,824
You know, there's there's so this life is so
incredibly beautiful, and there's every moment
563
00:39:54,605 --> 00:39:55,105
matters.
564
00:39:55,565 --> 00:40:04,619
And, You know, the pillars to moving anything
forward are really about when you are so clear
565
00:40:05,505 --> 00:40:13,289
and what it is that your purpose is, people
just get it, even if they don't even if it's
566
00:40:13,289 --> 00:40:19,530
not verbally, you know, we're just we're all
energetic people beings, and we're, you know,
567
00:40:19,530 --> 00:40:24,764
sort of throwing energy out there the time, you
know, and that sounds woo woo, but the reality
568
00:40:24,764 --> 00:40:28,864
is is you know when you're around somebody
negative that it doesn't feel good.
569
00:40:28,925 --> 00:40:33,319
So you can't not claim that energy is a thing.
570
00:40:33,319 --> 00:40:39,000
You know, you know when somebody's being super
up and positive and that feels good and you
571
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,914
wanna be around And so, you know, when you are
so in alignment with your purpose and you find
572
00:40:46,535 --> 00:40:57,130
that sweet spot where You're clear that that
your message is the one that is gonna resonate
573
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:59,905
with, you know, what who your tribe.
574
00:41:00,844 --> 00:41:08,480
And I truly believe that everybody like,
everyone has a purpose here Everybody has their
575
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,980
own gift that they have to give to this world.
576
00:41:13,574 --> 00:41:19,174
And it's unique to each person because of your
history and who you are and your essence and
577
00:41:19,174 --> 00:41:19,815
all of that.
578
00:41:19,815 --> 00:41:25,449
And so, yeah, the pillars look like when you
know you're in your purpose and you are so
579
00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:33,565
deeply aligned with it and so on purpose and in
purpose all the time, then, that attracts to
580
00:41:33,565 --> 00:41:36,784
you the people that are meant to be working
with you.
581
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:37,780
Yeah.
582
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,500
Absolutely.
583
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:39,380
I love that.
584
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:46,125
The more clear you are, the more you're walking
that talk, the more you show up, the easier it
585
00:41:46,125 --> 00:41:50,304
is to gain momentum in building a movement
that's going to catch fire quickly.
586
00:41:50,924 --> 00:41:55,809
So with that, how do you gain trust support and
buy in for your movements?
587
00:41:58,269 --> 00:42:04,925
I think when you are so you know, totally
aligned and authentic when you are just, you
588
00:42:04,925 --> 00:42:07,824
know, like, do I have all the answers for all
the people?
589
00:42:08,285 --> 00:42:09,425
Absolutely not.
590
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:10,630
Right.
591
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:15,190
I mean, I couldn't, you know, and that's one of
the things I loved about Mike Holly was, you
592
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:21,094
know, he was never proprietary about us
teaching his work because he said, you know,
593
00:42:21,094 --> 00:42:27,099
you are going to speak to, certain people that
I won't be able to they won't be able to hear
594
00:42:27,340 --> 00:42:27,660
You know?
595
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:28,880
And that's the thing.
596
00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:39,724
I think that, you know, the excitement comes
when we see in somebody else what it is that we
597
00:42:39,724 --> 00:42:44,809
wanna attain, you know, like you said, walking
the walk, you know, doing all this stuff.
598
00:42:44,809 --> 00:42:49,050
Like, you know, my morning, I used to just hop
out of bed and, you know, I've always been a
599
00:42:49,050 --> 00:42:50,349
super up person anyway.
600
00:42:50,489 --> 00:42:51,630
Like, I love the mornings.
601
00:42:51,875 --> 00:42:58,114
Get a lot done, to slow my morning down to do
all these rituals of things was not something
602
00:42:58,114 --> 00:43:05,550
that was in my MO, but you know, as we talked
about before, when we we set up our day for
603
00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:10,505
success like that, There's no stopping the day
from being, like, absolutely amazing.
604
00:43:11,045 --> 00:43:15,070
And I usually go, like, I go on a walking
meditation with my dog every morning, and I
605
00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:16,190
into meditation music.
606
00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:22,510
And I am often brought to tears of joy through
that because I've had this incredibly moving
607
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:29,824
experience, and I think that's what gets people
excited is, you know, and I think, you know,
608
00:43:29,824 --> 00:43:35,199
again, getting back to the energy, it's like,
you know, what vibration are you at, you know,
609
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:40,855
where are you, how are you bringing it to the
world and people feel they, you know, whether
610
00:43:40,855 --> 00:43:46,855
it's my Instagram posts, my videos, or
whatever, like, they're, that's what I was sort
611
00:43:46,855 --> 00:43:49,010
of like in tears of joy over this morning.
612
00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:53,010
A friend of mine, had shared a video and was
like, oh my gosh.
613
00:43:53,010 --> 00:43:54,050
This was so inspiring.
614
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:55,250
I really needed to hear that.
615
00:43:55,250 --> 00:44:01,784
And, like, how honored I am that I get to,
like, you know, share what's truly matters to
616
00:44:01,784 --> 00:44:03,784
me, and it means something to somebody else.
617
00:44:03,784 --> 00:44:05,340
Like, How awesome is that?
618
00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:06,960
Don't we all wanna feel like that?
619
00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:07,840
Yeah.
620
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:08,400
Absolutely.
621
00:44:08,539 --> 00:44:09,739
I think we all want that.
622
00:44:09,739 --> 00:44:12,400
That's truly success in his lifetime.
623
00:44:12,994 --> 00:44:18,614
So, Aaron, can you share a story, an inspiring
story tied to your movement?
624
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:34,144
This may be a less exciting story, but, a
client of mine you know, he really, when I met
625
00:44:34,144 --> 00:44:38,210
him super uptight, you know, all the things
that were just like me, right?
626
00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:45,170
So all the, you know, running around and
getting angry and, you know, this sort of
627
00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:49,885
attitude of, like, you know, a lot of people
like to say this, oh, that's just common sense,
628
00:44:49,885 --> 00:44:54,059
you know, and he would just always spout off
about, like, common, like, you know, it's
629
00:44:54,059 --> 00:44:54,860
common sense.
630
00:44:54,860 --> 00:44:57,500
My employee didn't do this thing, and it's
common sense.
631
00:44:57,500 --> 00:45:02,139
And getting him to understand that it isn't
common sense.
632
00:45:02,139 --> 00:45:04,144
There is no such thing as common sense.
633
00:45:04,144 --> 00:45:11,969
It's like, what is, you know, what's in the
realm of what you understand is very different
634
00:45:11,969 --> 00:45:12,949
to each person.
635
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:20,635
And when you allow somebody to see that path to
understanding that My way is not, you know,
636
00:45:20,635 --> 00:45:28,075
common sense or right, that their way is not
common sense or right, that we all have our own
637
00:45:28,075 --> 00:45:34,780
path and are able to, navigate them as best as
we can and are all really doing the best that
638
00:45:34,780 --> 00:45:38,554
we can with all that we know and and all our
experiences.
639
00:45:39,494 --> 00:45:44,394
So getting him, you know, having him come back
to me and say, oh, gosh, I had this experience
640
00:45:44,454 --> 00:45:48,239
where you know, my employee totally did the
wrong thing.
641
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:54,694
And instead of me flying off the handle or
getting upset, or, you know, saying that's
642
00:45:54,694 --> 00:45:55,494
common sense.
643
00:45:55,494 --> 00:45:57,414
What I did was I went back to me.
644
00:45:57,414 --> 00:46:03,659
You know, I took personal responsibility and
said, where did I not you know, tell them the
645
00:46:03,659 --> 00:46:09,579
right information so they could do the right
thing or, or he had a personal experience where
646
00:46:09,579 --> 00:46:13,885
he showed up and there was a confusion and
there was no place for him to stay.
647
00:46:13,945 --> 00:46:23,299
And there, And the lady, you know, because of
because he didn't overreact, she, the Airbnb
648
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:28,974
person went ahead and got them another place
and comped them their stay.
649
00:46:28,974 --> 00:46:30,174
And, you know, things like that.
650
00:46:30,174 --> 00:46:38,719
It's it's little But to somebody who is being
in reaction all the time to when you shift you
651
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:44,045
and how you come in this world, and the energy
that you put out in this world, and everybody
652
00:46:44,184 --> 00:46:47,464
shifts because of that, that's fascinating to
see.
653
00:46:47,464 --> 00:46:49,404
And I think that's a super wind.
654
00:46:49,464 --> 00:46:50,045
You know?
655
00:46:50,269 --> 00:46:50,589
Yeah.
656
00:46:50,589 --> 00:46:53,809
I mean, you you say that's a simple story, but
it's very powerful.
657
00:46:53,869 --> 00:47:00,974
So when we show up and we respond versus react
and we're from a place of compassion versus
658
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reaction and defensiveness or anger, it it's so
true.
659
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Things that experiences that typically in the
past would be belligerent or challenging or
660
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negative or resulting in conflict, results in
the opposite experience for the person wants
661
00:47:15,585 --> 00:47:20,484
help you because you're showing up with
compassion and joy and responding versus
662
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reacting, and people can sense and then they
wanna help you because you're being nice.
663
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And it's just it's so different.
664
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It's simple, but not simple.
665
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Like, it's simple, but hard to do.
666
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And very empowering once you have a couple of
these small experiences because it opens your
667
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whole world up for opportunity.
668
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So I love that.
669
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It's beautiful.
670
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So, Erin, this has been great.
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We're gonna dive into our lightning round of
questions.
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So,
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like Okay.
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Alright.
675
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So what's your favorite book?
676
00:47:53,664 --> 00:47:58,644
It's between a new Earth by Eckhart Holly and
the Jean of the soul Gary Zukov.
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Love it.
678
00:48:00,589 --> 00:48:03,730
What networking or community group do you love
the most?
679
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What do I love the most?
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I, you know, of course, I'm drawn to Mike Duley
because I I, have, you know, firsthand
681
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experience with him, and he's amazing.
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I love his stuff.
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I also anything that has to do with Eckhart
Tole, he is definitely we are on the same path,
684
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and I am a 100% in on all that he believes
685
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Awesome.
686
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What's the best piece of advice you would share
with others today?
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If you can separate yourself from what's you
believe is happening, the experience that
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you'll have in this life, is, you know, because
whatever's happening is gonna happen,
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regardless, and the thing you control control
is you.
690
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And so if you can at least separate yourself to
give your give yourself some time and space to,
691
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see what it is you're actually experiencing
versus being in reaction.
692
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I think that's that's huge.
693
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Okay.
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And if you could share one message with the
world, what would that be?
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This life is beautiful.
696
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We are meant to be in joy at all times all
throughout our day, every day, and every
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experience.
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And the sooner we can stop resisting that, the
happier we'll all be.
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I love that.
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Stop resisting joy.
701
00:49:32,565 --> 00:49:32,884
Okay.
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My last question, what's the legacy that you
wish to leave behind?
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If I can impact, you know, just anybody in
having a better experience in this life and,
704
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you know, show my, daughter that life is meant
to be joyful and that, you know, abundance and
705
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:07,264
all the, beautiful experiences that we have
come from that place, come from the allowing of
706
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what is to be versus the wanting things to look
a certain way.
707
00:50:12,224 --> 00:50:17,019
If I can leave that legacy with her and her
generation, Wow.
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What a wonderful place this would be.
709
00:50:19,659 --> 00:50:20,159
Absolutely.
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I hold that vision with you.
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That's a beautiful vision for this world.
712
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So Erin has been very generous.
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She has a free get traction phone consultation
that you can book with her.
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I will have that link in the show notes.
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I also will have a link to her website, her
Instagram, and her Facebook so you can follow
716
00:50:39,610 --> 00:50:44,795
or reach out to Erin directly if you need
support around anxiety or getting traction.
717
00:50:45,094 --> 00:50:47,355
Aaron, anything else you'd like to add on that?
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I just wanna thank you for having me on here.
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These are the conversations that I love to
have.
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00:50:53,890 --> 00:50:55,829
This is what life is about here.
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00:50:56,210 --> 00:51:03,684
Thank you for creating a platform for people
to, experience conscious evolution, which I
722
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believe is is where we're all headed.
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And, the sooner we can get there, the more, joy
we can create in this, experience now.
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Oh, thank you.
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Yeah.
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It's wonderful to have you here on the
platform.
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So for our listeners, I look forward to seeing
you next week on the show.
728
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Thank you for joining the show today.
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I hope you were inspired.
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More importantly, I hope you take action.
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What is one thing you can do in this moment
that will inspire someone?
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Without action, Nothing changes.
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Be the change you wish to see in the world.
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If this show truly inspired you, we ask that
you share it through your network.
735
00:51:52,984 --> 00:51:57,324
Help us spread the light and inspiration in the
world.
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I look forward to seeing you here next week.
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Welcome to the Inspiration Contagion Podcast
where we spread inspiration one story at a
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time.
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I am your host Holly Jean Jackson.
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Each episode, spot and interviews 1 and others
through inspiration.
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If you are a visionary seeking to up level your
leadership skills, then this is the podcast for
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you.
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I invite you today to spread inspiration like a
contagion.
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Welcome to the inspiration Contagion Movement.
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Welcome to episode 40 of the Inspiration
Contagion Podcast.
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This week's guest is Erin Mack, Aaron is a
business coach and workshop facilitator.
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So welcome, Aaron.
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Good morning.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Yeah.
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It's so great to have you here.
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So, Erin, would you tell us a little bit more
about your background and your story?
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Okay.
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So, I let's see.
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So I was, I I've been an entrepreneur for 21
years.
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I sort of by a fluke, which I don't really
actually believe in now, but at the time, I
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threw this business together thinking, oh, you
know, I'll just kinda do this thing and see
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what happens and it completely took off.
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And, prior to that, I had moved to Hawaii so
that I could have a simpler life.
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And, and I had Jean having some emotional,
difficulties.
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I had gone through some pretty major counseling
and, had created a, an anxiety disorder.
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And, we can talk about how I created it and how
I know that it's created by myself and others.
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A little bit later, but so that's what prompted
me to move to Hawaii and find a different life.
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And I thought that it was gonna be the location
that made every thing, simpler, come to find
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out that in my mind, it was busy.
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And so I just kept creating things over and
over again that were stressful and emotionally
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challenging.
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And you know, went through a few, marriages and
divorces and landed about 2 years ago, no, 3
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years ago, in this really low place.
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And I had been doing self development for a
decade.
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I had gone to all these seminars.
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I worked for a seminar company, And, I just
couldn't take all the information that I had
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used and put it into my life at the moment.
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I was just so distraught.
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And, for some reason, I was called to, this
book.
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And as I was reading the book, it was the
experience was that The words that were, like,
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in bold that kept coming out were you're meant
to be in joy.
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You're meant to live a life and joy.
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I literally would read it.
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It was a book that has, you know, a passage
that you read every day for a year.
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And every time I would read the passage, all I
could see in bold with these words joy, meant
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to be in joy.
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And I thought this is a very strange
experience.
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And as it were, I, because of the other seminar
company that I was involved in, they, had
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introduced me to Mike Holly, who was a
contributor to the book The Secret.
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And, he had sent an email saying that there was
a, There was a workshop coming up.
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And, I signed up to go to the workshop without
even knowing what it was about, and I flew to,
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Oahu, to take the workshop.
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And then when I got there, it was a workshop on
the visualization process.
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And, I went home and There was a bunch of
things going on in my life.
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My business that I had had for 18 years was had
been for sale for 6 months with no offers.
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My broker was asking me, to consider lowering
the part lowering the price but I was clear
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that it was gonna happen at the price that I
had put it on the market form.
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And, as I said, I was, you know, was going
through a divorce, and I was in a low place.
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And, so I went to the seminar.
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I came back.
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I used the tools, the visualization tools, and
everything in my life just completely lined up.
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I had when I came back, I was so inspired.
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I called my broker, and I was like, listen.
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I just wanna let you know my business is gonna
sell by the end of the month, and there's gonna
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be bidding and he was like, okay.
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I haven't he had no place to put that
information.
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And so he and then a week later, it went into
bidding wars, my business sold, a few weeks
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after that, I went and trained under Mike
Holly, and I started teaching his courses,
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infinite possibilities.
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And, and that's when I realized what my path
was, my purpose was to, inspire others to find
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their joy And and then as it were several
months later, I figured out not only how to
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find my joy, but how to cultivate on a daily
basis.
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And so that is what I teach people, typically
entrepreneurs because having, you know, being
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1, that's who I relate to.
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So that was the long answer, but, yes, that's
what I'm about.
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No.
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That was perfect.
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I love the infinite possibilities piece, the
visualization or and I love that your vision is
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to help others find their joy and keep it.
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And I know especially for entrepreneurs, that's
important because when we're not in a place of
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feeling joy or passion or excited about the
business we're building or the business we're
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scaling, it Jean be quite difficult.
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So it's really important to keep our joy.
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Otherwise, we get burnt out or overwhelmed.
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So that's beautiful that you do work with like
that with entrepreneurs.
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So, Erin, I wanted to ask you because this is
inspiration contagion.
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What makes you an inspirational leader or what
your secret sauce?
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So, you know, lea tailing on to that story that
I just told.
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What I recognized, shortly after all of the
what I just explained to you was that, I was a
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thinker and, you know, a constant, you know,
panic mode, or fight or flight or whatever you
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wanna call those things.
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And I recognize through the process of
basically starting over.
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You know, I had my business for 18 years.
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Once it sold, And I decided to go in this
different direction and, you know, try and and
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inspire people and lead a life that was
inspirational, there was some holes in that.
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And so I, had some life changing events happen
when I read a couple of books.
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One was a reread, and the other one was, the
first time I had had it, although I had
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possession of the book for at least a decade,
and I was afraid to read it.
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And, through those books, what I recognized was
that the thinking that I was doing had 0 it was
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of zero use to any circumstance.
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Basically, what I was wanting to create was a
different experience in my life.
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And the overthinking brain doesn't allow that.
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It basically pulls from the past and then tells
you that everything or has you believe that
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everything is, Everything is the same.
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Like, every scenario is the same.
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Every, circumstance is the same.
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And so when you live your life that way, then
it is the same, even if it's different people.
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And so, you know, in terms of relationship,
That's why we continue to have the same
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relationships with people is because we do
relationships one way.
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And so when I was able to recognize this piece
through, being inspired by these books and
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learning some new tools, I was able to quiet my
mind to the point where I could let inspiration
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come in.
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And so a lot of the times when I'm working with
clients, it's about How do you quiet the
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overthinking mind so that you can let in what's
supposed to be there?
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And right now, as it were, I'm writing a book,
on, I don't have the title solidified yet, but
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the gist is that the addiction to anxiety and
overwhelm, and what that looks like in terms of
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the mind body connection, what you're doing to,
continue to release the hormones that you do
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when you keep experiencing life the thinking
things and how the strategies and tools on how
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to quiet the mind and begin to change that
because I believe that change happens in three
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steps.
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1 is awareness that something is not okay and
you need to move on The second is the
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strategies and tools, and the third is the
practice piece.
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While it is, you know, simple, the tools and
the strategy, it's not always easy to rewire
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the brain.
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And so that's where the inspiration comes from
is when you can quiet the mind and let the
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purpose in.
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Yeah.
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And it's really I'm I'm actually quite
interested in reading your book on that
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addiction to anxiety and overwhelm because I
feel like these days people are more addicted
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to overthinking, which leads to that addiction
of anxiety and overwhelm than ever.
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And I don't know if it's tied to social media
or I'm sure you have insights on that, but, it
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it's so important that we learn to quiet the
mind I I'm noticing during COVID, people are,
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you know, numbing out through Netflix or
staying really busy but that's not the solution
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because then they're not implementing the right
practices to make change in transformation.
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It's really about getting quiet, and that takes
a lot of time and strategy and practice to make
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happen.
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Yeah.
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Quiet in the mind is easy as that may be sounds
for somebody like me having been there.
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I mean, that was I I believed, and I believe
most people believe this.
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That they are their mind, that they are their
emotions, and their thoughts.
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And the reality is is we are not our thoughts
in our emotions.
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And the reason I know that is because if you
can recall your thoughts and your emotions, who
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is it that's recalling them?
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So that makes the separation between those two
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And one of the things that I do with a lot of
my coaching clients is create that separation.
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The idea that you are the spectator of what's
going on.
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So, you know, the visual I try to get them to
think is, you know, think of you, many you
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that's like 2 inches tall inside your brain in
the middle of your brain looking out through
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your eye as though you're watching like a
tennis match and just see what's going on.
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And when you can create that space, that space
gives you the time to respond versus react.
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So then we slow down that process of this
person or that situation is making me feel this
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way.
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It's like, no.
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This situation is happening outside of myself.
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And inside of myself, I get to dictate the
response versus being in reaction all the time.
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So it's the slowing down of what's happening in
a life so that you can see it for what it is
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versus, you know, using that piece that I was
talking about before, which is using your
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history to dictate the future, now you can be
begin to be in the present and create from
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their is the past.
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Yeah.
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And that's such a great reminder for people
that we are not our emotions.
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We are not our thoughts And for those of us
that are anxious or addicted to anxiety and
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overwhelm, that means that the awareness pieces
where we realize that when we start having
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those negative thoughts, those anxious
thoughts.
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We don't have to react by going down that
spiral.
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We can actually distance ourselves and realize
oh, wow.
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This is a pattern for me.
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I am aware that I'm experiencing some anxious
thoughts, and I can choose something else.
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And so like you said, that separation is so
important and being more of the observer kind
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of a Buddhist tendency is really empowering
because it allows us to have spaciousness and
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to pivot that mindset pretty quickly.
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I love that.
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So, Erin, I'd love to hear from you.
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What does inspiration mean to you?
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Inspiration is let's see.
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How do I for me, the experience is when and
maybe this is a little loo, but when something
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speaks to my soul, Right.
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So that moment where, like, all all is right in
the world, you know, where I am so in alignment
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with whatever the information is that I'm
taking in.
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However, I'm taking that in and understanding
that it's a Jean knowing.
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Right?
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So it's we were, you know, from a from birth
meant to live this life of joy and tap into the
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deepest knowing of ourselves, and we distract
us ourselves with all of these things.
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And, and so one of the rituals that I do every
morning as I read something that speaks to my
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soul, from there are several books that I
choose, that that do speak to my soul.
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And I I can't help but have a day of alignment
when I start that way.
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Aside from the other practices that I do, which
are visualization and meditation, this the part
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that speaks to your soul, I think why it does
that is because it allows us to be in community
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with somebody else knowing that we're not the
only ones that feel this way and that that Jean
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knowing assures us that that all is is okay
right here and right now.
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I love that.
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Yeah.
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And that makes a lot of sense because if we're
not defined by our emotions and our thoughts.
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That's not who we are.
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There's something else.
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So you can call it a soul.
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You can call it something else, whatever you
want that to be for you.
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But, yeah, it's it's really having that faith
and that knowingness inside that this is what I
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meant to do and things feel aligned, things
feel peaceful.
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It feels quiet.
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It feels empowered.
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I also love that you shared that you have a way
you start your day with things that speak to
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your soul and visualization.
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I also use meditation affirmation work and
visualization every morning, and I read, like,
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a short excerpt from this mindfulness book that
has, like, one page every day you can read
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about something that's really powerful for
being mindful in life.
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And I agree when I have my morning routine, my
day is amazing.
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The few days where I am off track and I skip
those, I do not have a great day because I'm
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not aligned.
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I'm not listening to my soul, and I haven't
started my day on the right foot.
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It's kind of like medicine for the soul
starting every morning that way.
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Jean.
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I agree.
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I Jean, and even so the visualization process
that I teach and that I've learned was really
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about Less about I mean, it it's definitely a
visualization process.
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So you are visualizing something, but it's more
about What will it feel like when you have all
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the things that you said that you wanted?
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And the feeling piece is really momentum piece.
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And so when you start your day in that place,
like, how could you have a bad day, right,
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because if you're thinking day in the life,
everything you ever wanted.
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And that includes all the stuff.
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I'm a 100% all in on abundance in every way,
shape, or form.
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But also, you know, I think when we get to the
end of life, we're not thinking, I wish I had a
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mask more money or more things.
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We think we're really thinking, I wish I'd have
more deep meaningful relationships with the
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people that I love are just with everybody.
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Right?
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And so you know, imagining not for the or
visualizing and imagining not for the purpose
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of creating all the stuff.
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And, again, love all the stuff.
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It's all in my visualization, but recognizing
that it's the feeling piece that we're for, and
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that's the cultivation piece.
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So I found, in my journey, I found joy through
the visualization process.
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I was like, oh my, Like, I would get so into my
visualizations to have that emotional
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experience, because that, again, is what I
think is the most important piece of that.
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That I would like, you know, I would like be in
tears of joy and, like, like, I raised my arms.
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I'm like, yes.
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Yes.
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I mean, how could you not be in higher
vibrational state when you're just like, yes.
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This is happening.
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Yes.
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I have all those things.
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And, and then again, like, how could you not
have an amazing day if you're not start if
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you're starting from that place.
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There's just no way to not, like, make it
happen.
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You know?
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And that's an important reminder that when we
are a realizing that future goal, those future
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things.
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It doesn't have to be physical things.
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It could be impact you have on people's lives.
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It could be that really intimate relationship
with a partner or just intimate relationships
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all around the world, it is so in powering when
you feel that.
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And when you tap into that, it just makes
everything that for that day exciting and
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motivating.
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And even the tedious things or the mundane
things because they're getting you closer to
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that goal, you're excited because you're living
that end goal today.
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And I feel like for a lot of people, sometimes
their big goals are so far removed that it's
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hard for them to grasp that today.
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So that's why visualization is so powerful
because it allows us to tap into that future
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state and live from that future state so that
creating it is much easier.
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There are fewer obstacles.
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So, Erin oh, go ahead.
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Oh, and I was gonna say, you know, isn't that
what we really want?
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It's not the things that we think we want.
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Right?
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It's the how we're gonna feel when we have the
things.
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Right?
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So why not feel that way now today?
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And you know, and the things come or they don't
come and who cares, right, because you're
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having a great experience.
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And, I mean, I guess, another way to put that
is if you're living your purpose every day and
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you're visualizing and feeling that achieved
purpose every day, how can you not have a great
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day and how can you not have joy?
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I think, you know, of course, our society, we
sorta I think we just got it wrong a little
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You know, like, I love nice things too.
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Love them.
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Great.
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But, you know, the things that make the
memories, the, like, things that make you feel
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good Aren't isn't the stuff, isn't the, you
know, I'm gonna feel better when I get to that
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destination, piece you know, and, you know,
talking about addiction, like, we're Holly,
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like, the society often is very addicted to
because that's all we saw.
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Every commercial, everything is like, you know,
when you have the car, then you're gonna be
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success When you have the money, then you'll be
successful.
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When you have the girl, the guy, whatever, then
you'll be successful.
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And the reality is is, success, the idea of
success that we've sort of been fed, is has
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little meaning.
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It's it doesn't speak to the deepest part of
us.
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And, and I think that's kind of if I'm not
mistaken, what we're all sort of looking for is
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that happiness joy peace and, and it's not in
the stuff, unfortunately.
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Holly, and that's a perfect segue to my next
question.
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So so, Erin, how do you define success for
yourself and how did you arrive at this
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definition?
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I don't use that word very often, because it
has a strange you know, for me, almost, well, I
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don't believe in positive or negative or right
or wrong.
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Like, I don't believe those exist.
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We are in And the only thing we are in control
of is us and how we respond to this life.
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And so, you know, if there's somebody that does
something that I'm not interested in, I I don't
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see that as right or wrong.
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I just see it as different.
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And so in terms of success, I, for me, if I can
impact, if I can live my best life by, quieting
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my mind, being in response versus reaction, and
inspiring others to do the same so that they
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can find and cultivate their joy, then to me,
that is the ultimate, you know, every time I
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get off a client call, I just I feel like I
couldn't be any more in my purpose.
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And to me, that is like, amazing.
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And when I think of building my business, the
business really looks like how can I impact
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more people to live their best life in whatever
that looks like for them, and find their joy
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and be able to cultivate that regularly and
have those meaningful relationships and and the
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stuff too?
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Like, why not throw it all in?
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We deserve it.
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You know?
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We do.
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I love that.
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That's a beautiful definition with that.
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So, Erin, on the way to figuring out the joy
and the success and all that, there are
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typically challenges and obstacles.
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So what are some of the challenges and tools
that you faced along your journey to finding
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that joy?
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Yeah.
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So I'd alluded to the the anxiety disorder that
I created.
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And this might sort of agitate some folks
because a lot of people, ascribe to, you know,
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anxiety disorders being something that is out
of their control or genetic or whatever the
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circumstances.
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And, I wanna say that It's not about blame.
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Like, where does, you know, but the 2 tenets
that I teach from are the One is that your
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dominant thoughts are what create your reality.
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If you believe that's true, which I don't think
is a stretch for most people.
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You think and think, like, I wanna get my
degree in college.
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So you think and think and think and you do all
the stuff and you get through college and you
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get your degree.
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Right?
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So we do it all the time.
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Unaware.
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The second piece of that is if one is true, if
your dominant thoughts create your reality,
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then 2 is taking personal responsibility for
what you've created.
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Now taking personal responsibility to some
folks is very challenging because it it goes to
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blame for them.
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And this is not a blame thing.
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This is an empowering thing.
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This is if that's true and I am responsible for
creating what it is I have in my life, then I
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can uncreate the things that I do not like and
create what it is I do want.
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And so what I know now is that The anxiety
disorder came up because I was in a counseling
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situation.
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And, I have zero issue with counselors.
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The issue I have is that the subconscious brain
does not recognize what is happening at this
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moment and what has happened in the past.
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So when you recall stories and in counseling,
you're typically recalling trauma and bad
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things, right?
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Are bad seeming things.
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And you continue to tell the story over and
over again.
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The subconscious mind thinks it's happening all
over again.
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And so what happened and how I created my
anxiety disorder was through that process of
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going over and over and over again on all the
things, you know, all the hurts and the traumas
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and the, you know, they did me wrong and all
that stuff.
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And typically when work with a client.
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One of the very first things I do is I ask them
to tell me my story, which everybody tells you
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all the junky stuff.
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The first lesson is you don't get to tell that
story again.
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I don't ever wanna hear you say it aloud.
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I don't want you to say it in your mind
anymore.
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I don't want you to agree with somebody else
who's had that story.
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You know, we like to get in community with
people or bond through our, our bad stories,
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right?
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Like, oh, I was abused too when I was a kid or
I was, you know, whatever.
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Wrong to this way when I was a kid or bullied
or whatever.
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And, so what happens is when you stop that
story, you begin to see that that story, again,
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is not you.
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It's it's an event that happened or several or
series of events that happened.
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But it's not you, not the deeper essence of who
you are.
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And when you continue to relate to yourself
through that story, then that story lives on.
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And that story, you do not deserve that story.
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That the store that story does not empower you
to create the future that you want.
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And so through all of the work that I've done,
I recognize that anxiety disorder came through
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because of that story over and over and over
again.
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And and not telling that story you know, if you
asked me what the story was, I could tell you
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the story, but because I've not said it in so
long, the distance between that story and
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myself I'm not connected to it anymore.
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It doesn't have any energy for me anymore.
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And that's where people need to get because,
again, you're not your emotions.
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You're not that story, and you don't have to be
that story.
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You don't have to refer to it to be okay.
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Actually, it's it's when we don't that we get
to the joy piece.
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Yeah.
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And that that actually explains a lot, as
you're explaining the therapist and the process
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of repeating stories and repeating the stuff
that's happened to us.
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It really explains a lot for, I imagine, a lot
of people that are listening.
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And and stories are so powerful.
395
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Right?
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They really take root in us, and they plant
these deep seeds.
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And so I love your approach of recognizing
those stories, those patterns you want to break
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those things that you're not happy with in your
life and then getting distance from that story.
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Don't repeat it in your mind.
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Out loud.
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Don't relate to it.
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00:28:22,805 --> 00:28:26,484
Until, like you said, you have that distance,
and it's like you're telling somebody else's
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00:28:26,484 --> 00:28:29,384
story because there's no energetic pole in it.
404
00:28:29,525 --> 00:28:34,059
And I think this is so important as you know,
what stories are you repeating in your life
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that you'd wanna get rid of?
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00:28:35,819 --> 00:28:38,399
And then identify it one last time.
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00:28:38,654 --> 00:28:43,215
And remove it so that you can get that distance
and create a new story so that you can take
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empowerment and and ownership of your future.
409
00:28:46,335 --> 00:28:47,295
So I love that, Erin.
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That's really great.
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00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:54,880
I absolutely believe that, you know, the
premise of my book, the addiction to anxiety
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and overwhelm lies in that piece right there.
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It's pulling again from that story, from the
past.
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And thinking that that's who we are, you know,
and and recreating that whatever the, you know,
415
00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:15,075
whatever the underlying belief was that we
decided about our self at a young age.
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00:29:16,815 --> 00:29:21,454
And I'll tell you, I believe that everybody has
the same one, which is I'm not good enough.
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00:29:21,454 --> 00:29:22,355
I don't deserve.
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00:29:22,414 --> 00:29:23,315
I'm not lovable.
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00:29:24,849 --> 00:29:26,529
We all got that message.
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00:29:26,529 --> 00:29:32,434
Even I've had students in my classes that had
wonderful childhoods where their parents were,
421
00:29:32,434 --> 00:29:35,715
you know, very balanced, and it was a wonderful
thing.
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00:29:35,715 --> 00:29:37,875
And they're still struggling with this piece.
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00:29:37,875 --> 00:29:43,059
So I think it's just part of the human
condition that we don't believe that we're good
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00:29:43,059 --> 00:29:44,920
enough, and it's okay.
425
00:29:45,619 --> 00:29:52,255
And, when we recognize that and can use tools
to rewire the brain to understand that that is
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00:29:52,255 --> 00:29:58,434
not who we are, the deepest essence of who we
are, then we can let in actually who we are.
427
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,840
Yeah.
428
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:00,660
That's beautiful.
429
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,720
So, Erin, I was wondering if there's a story of
inspiration that you're known for that you can
430
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,779
share with our listeners.
431
00:30:09,984 --> 00:30:10,725
Oh, boy.
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00:30:10,945 --> 00:30:12,005
Story of inspiration.
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00:30:14,865 --> 00:30:21,210
I think, you know, just So the reason that I
became a business coach was because the
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00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:26,705
sensation that I had when I was running my
business was that I was literally running
435
00:30:26,705 --> 00:30:29,605
around every day, putting out fires all day
long.
436
00:30:29,984 --> 00:30:33,345
And, you know, part of that is what we've
already talked about this whole, like, thinking
437
00:30:33,345 --> 00:30:38,079
over thinking, you know, being in action to
things all all day long every day.
438
00:30:38,619 --> 00:30:45,825
And when I recognize that, it doesn't need to
be that way, I mean, and as you know, I'm sure
439
00:30:45,825 --> 00:30:51,744
in your coaching business, the the people who
are attracted to me are the same people that
440
00:30:51,744 --> 00:30:54,289
are me, right, in a in a different version.
441
00:30:54,429 --> 00:31:05,734
And so what ends up happening is that I get
this incredible honor of paving the way for the
442
00:31:05,734 --> 00:31:10,075
entrepreneurs that are, you know, that I speak
to.
443
00:31:10,339 --> 00:31:18,934
Personally, that, you know, align with me or,
you know, are attracted to my vibration or
444
00:31:18,934 --> 00:31:21,994
however, or my energy or whatever you have, you
wanna put that.
445
00:31:22,295 --> 00:31:25,835
I get to walk them through the process.
446
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:33,679
Of slowing all of that down and doing business
differently and being aligned and being in the
447
00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:34,179
flow.
448
00:31:34,399 --> 00:31:42,005
And then you know, getting the advantage of,
you know, the pieces, you know, the reason that
449
00:31:42,005 --> 00:31:47,150
we start businesses, which is really about you
know, time flexibility and being able to
450
00:31:47,150 --> 00:31:48,289
dictate your income.
451
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:51,309
I mean, that's what being an entrepreneur is
about.
452
00:31:51,309 --> 00:31:57,994
And I get to walk these people who are, you
know, were just like me that are running around
453
00:31:58,054 --> 00:32:03,429
feeling like they're chicken with their head
cut all day long dealing with clients and
454
00:32:03,429 --> 00:32:06,009
employees and all the stuff.
455
00:32:06,390 --> 00:32:13,825
And I get to be that, like, hour of of, calm
and slow down for them.
456
00:32:13,825 --> 00:32:20,440
And then I get to just walk them through this
path of How do I experience this, you know,
457
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,399
business life?
458
00:32:21,399 --> 00:32:26,434
Because as you know, you can separate business
and personal you want, but they're the same.
459
00:32:27,375 --> 00:32:34,255
And so, you know, just walking them through
this process of slowing down and quieting the
460
00:32:34,255 --> 00:32:41,960
mind and being in alignment and helping them,
experience this life very differently.
461
00:32:42,535 --> 00:32:48,934
Life is gonna go on however it does outside of
us and, you know, and how we experience it.
462
00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:51,095
That's the thing that we can actually control.
463
00:32:51,095 --> 00:32:54,789
Everything else is you know, it's gonna happen
how it happens, and, you know, we can move
464
00:32:54,789 --> 00:32:59,829
energy in different directions, but, we don't
we don't get to control any of that.
465
00:32:59,829 --> 00:33:05,285
Besides which, you know, I believe that, you
know, oh, universe god, whatever, you know,
466
00:33:05,285 --> 00:33:08,644
looking down is really a topographical view.
467
00:33:08,644 --> 00:33:14,450
It's like, it feels like I'm in the trenches
right now, but just around the corner, like
468
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:17,269
Jean hour away or a day away or a week away.
469
00:33:17,424 --> 00:33:22,325
A whole another something is gonna happen, and
that's super exciting.
470
00:33:23,424 --> 00:33:24,724
That is super exciting.
471
00:33:24,784 --> 00:33:25,284
Yeah.
472
00:33:25,589 --> 00:33:32,069
It feels like we're building and suffering and
working and digging right now, but I think that
473
00:33:32,069 --> 00:33:38,034
honestly the more challenging that creative
processes or that thing that we're trying to
474
00:33:38,034 --> 00:33:40,934
achieve is it makes the summit that much
sweeter.
475
00:33:41,049 --> 00:33:45,929
So sometimes the most challenging moments in my
life, I know it's just gonna be that much
476
00:33:45,929 --> 00:33:47,390
sweeter on the other side.
477
00:33:47,529 --> 00:33:48,809
And I completely agree.
478
00:33:48,809 --> 00:33:50,595
How we do life is how we do life.
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00:33:50,595 --> 00:33:55,414
There's, you know, not really the separation
between business and personal life.
480
00:33:55,554 --> 00:34:00,355
We like to pretend that it's there, but the
reality is is that, you know, how we are in our
481
00:34:00,355 --> 00:34:02,730
purse a life shows up in our business life.
482
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:07,269
And so we have to make sure that we are showing
up as the best version of ourselves, and we're
483
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:11,855
in that space of joy, and we have that quiet in
our minds, and we're leading others by example.
484
00:34:12,635 --> 00:34:13,614
So I love that.
485
00:34:14,155 --> 00:34:16,894
So, Erin, you identified as a movement leader.
486
00:34:17,269 --> 00:34:21,210
I'd love for you to tell the listeners about a
movement that you've built.
487
00:34:22,789 --> 00:34:28,565
So I'm actually in the process of building that
movement and it is around this anxiety
488
00:34:28,704 --> 00:34:30,484
addiction piece and overwhelm.
489
00:34:31,984 --> 00:34:39,029
I think, you know, as much as everybody would
like to think, oh, the COVID, oh, the
490
00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:47,715
political, oh, the injustices, and all those
things, these are just opportunities for us to
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00:34:47,715 --> 00:34:54,730
use what we know, the tools that we have, to be
strong in in our, you know, Jean knowing of
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00:34:54,730 --> 00:34:55,230
ourselves.
493
00:34:56,089 --> 00:35:03,375
And for those that are having a difficult time,
This is that opportunity that's saying, okay.
494
00:35:03,675 --> 00:35:06,315
You know, it's it's always gonna be something.
495
00:35:06,315 --> 00:35:10,670
The one guarantee that we have in life is that,
is changing all the time.
496
00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:15,710
And so why not learn those pieces of resiliency
now?
497
00:35:15,905 --> 00:35:18,805
Why not learn those tools and strategies now?
498
00:35:19,265 --> 00:35:24,900
This anxiety piece is really about one of the
things I wanted to talk about was I recognize
499
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:31,920
through that counseling process that the
anxiety so you were talking about summit.
500
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:38,075
So I kept thinking, I'll tell you the anxiety
disorder got so difficult that I really hold
501
00:35:38,075 --> 00:35:40,414
myself up in my apartment for about a year.
502
00:35:41,195 --> 00:35:49,140
I was, extremely afraid to go outside, to go
and do just even the things that you absolutely
503
00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:54,855
have to do by food you know, I would have to go
through all these rituals just to get outside
504
00:35:54,914 --> 00:35:57,015
to drive the car to do all the things.
505
00:35:57,635 --> 00:36:00,889
And, and my life became very narrow.
506
00:36:01,190 --> 00:36:07,565
But what I recognized through that counseling
process was that you know, the anxiety kept
507
00:36:07,565 --> 00:36:08,925
getting worse and worse and worse.
508
00:36:08,925 --> 00:36:15,030
I had to quit my job and, and the symptoms just
kept getting worse and worse and worse.
509
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:16,309
And then they topped out.
510
00:36:16,309 --> 00:36:17,109
I mean, they were bad.
511
00:36:17,109 --> 00:36:19,289
Obviously, I'm holding myself up in my
apartment.
512
00:36:20,309 --> 00:36:27,135
But on the other side of that anxiety when I
did finally begin to get relief, there was
513
00:36:27,135 --> 00:36:28,034
nothing there.
514
00:36:28,819 --> 00:36:35,619
All of that anxiety was a defense mechanism to
hold on to something that I thought was gonna
515
00:36:35,619 --> 00:36:41,034
be some big on the other end And the reality is
is there was nothing there.
516
00:36:41,034 --> 00:36:42,494
There was no big surprise.
517
00:36:42,714 --> 00:36:49,340
Oh, maybe I had, you know, hidden some trauma
back in my brain that I just wasn't willing to
518
00:36:49,340 --> 00:36:49,840
acknowledge.
519
00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:50,619
No.
520
00:36:50,619 --> 00:36:52,640
There was literally nothing there.
521
00:36:52,860 --> 00:36:58,234
So I got to the top of the most amount of
anxiety I could deal with.
522
00:36:58,694 --> 00:37:02,875
And when I got to the other side, there was
nothing or nobody there.
523
00:37:03,139 --> 00:37:11,299
And so what I wanna say is as debilitating as
anxiety and overwhelm can feel, it really is a
524
00:37:11,299 --> 00:37:12,735
signal for something else.
525
00:37:12,894 --> 00:37:14,175
Not about that.
526
00:37:14,175 --> 00:37:15,555
It's not about suffering.
527
00:37:15,695 --> 00:37:24,089
It's not about it is the wanting to hold on to
something to protect the deepest part of you,
528
00:37:24,309 --> 00:37:27,130
and that dissonance is what's creating the
anxiety.
529
00:37:27,989 --> 00:37:35,724
So know that if you are in that place at the
moment and you're struggling, there is another
530
00:37:35,865 --> 00:37:38,099
way It's not easy.
531
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,400
It is simple, but it's not easy.
532
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:46,579
And it requires practice because to get to this
state, you have been practicing this way.
533
00:37:46,804 --> 00:37:49,304
And now you're gonna need to practice a
different way.
534
00:37:49,925 --> 00:37:50,324
Yeah.
535
00:37:50,324 --> 00:37:50,644
No.
536
00:37:50,644 --> 00:37:53,765
That's powerful for sure, and it does take
time.
537
00:37:53,765 --> 00:38:00,329
It does take diligent And that's also a good
point that sometimes on the other side of what
538
00:38:00,329 --> 00:38:06,265
we're trying to release, there can be nothing,
and it could just be because we're resisting
539
00:38:06,405 --> 00:38:08,644
something and having trouble letting go.
540
00:38:08,644 --> 00:38:13,925
And and the letting go process is oftentimes
the most difficult piece, but when we let go,
541
00:38:13,925 --> 00:38:21,109
it actually releases something energetically,
spiritually, physically so we can then have
542
00:38:21,109 --> 00:38:22,894
space for what we are.
543
00:38:22,894 --> 00:38:27,554
Trying to create what we do want to create,
that's gonna be a more joyous lifestyle.
544
00:38:27,614 --> 00:38:31,554
So I'm excited to see that movement you're
building around releasing anxiety.
545
00:38:32,670 --> 00:38:37,309
So, Aaron, what are some of the pillars to
building a movement that catches fire for this
546
00:38:37,309 --> 00:38:39,489
movement you're visualizing and building?
547
00:38:42,085 --> 00:38:47,125
I think, you know, we've talked about it
without maybe even saying, well, we've talked
548
00:38:47,125 --> 00:38:47,925
about it a little bit.
549
00:38:47,925 --> 00:38:52,989
I think it's really about when you are fully in
alignment with what it is.
550
00:38:52,989 --> 00:39:00,394
You know, the first time I taught, the infinite
possibilities workshop, it was crazy because I
551
00:39:00,394 --> 00:39:04,715
had, you know, put together written out
everything I was gonna say and had all the, you
552
00:39:04,715 --> 00:39:06,175
know, syllabus and everything.
553
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:13,420
And when I stood in front of the class, within
a few minutes, I had ditched my notes.
554
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:21,554
It was a culmination of everything that I had
learned on my own through other people just
555
00:39:21,554 --> 00:39:22,994
all, like, flooded in.
556
00:39:22,994 --> 00:39:25,735
It was a synergy of all of that happening at
once.
557
00:39:26,250 --> 00:39:33,449
And when those moments happen, that's the
pillar to any movement is when you are so in
558
00:39:33,449 --> 00:39:36,785
alignment with and there is no going back.
559
00:39:36,785 --> 00:39:37,184
Right?
560
00:39:37,184 --> 00:39:42,519
There's no way that I can live my life the way
I used to.
561
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:45,739
There's no way that I could knowing what I know
now.
562
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:53,824
You know, there's there's so this life is so
incredibly beautiful, and there's every moment
563
00:39:54,605 --> 00:39:55,105
matters.
564
00:39:55,565 --> 00:40:04,619
And, You know, the pillars to moving anything
forward are really about when you are so clear
565
00:40:05,505 --> 00:40:13,289
and what it is that your purpose is, people
just get it, even if they don't even if it's
566
00:40:13,289 --> 00:40:19,530
not verbally, you know, we're just we're all
energetic people beings, and we're, you know,
567
00:40:19,530 --> 00:40:24,764
sort of throwing energy out there the time, you
know, and that sounds woo woo, but the reality
568
00:40:24,764 --> 00:40:28,864
is is you know when you're around somebody
negative that it doesn't feel good.
569
00:40:28,925 --> 00:40:33,319
So you can't not claim that energy is a thing.
570
00:40:33,319 --> 00:40:39,000
You know, you know when somebody's being super
up and positive and that feels good and you
571
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:45,914
wanna be around And so, you know, when you are
so in alignment with your purpose and you find
572
00:40:46,535 --> 00:40:57,130
that sweet spot where You're clear that that
your message is the one that is gonna resonate
573
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:59,905
with, you know, what who your tribe.
574
00:41:00,844 --> 00:41:08,480
And I truly believe that everybody like,
everyone has a purpose here Everybody has their
575
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,980
own gift that they have to give to this world.
576
00:41:13,574 --> 00:41:19,174
And it's unique to each person because of your
history and who you are and your essence and
577
00:41:19,174 --> 00:41:19,815
all of that.
578
00:41:19,815 --> 00:41:25,449
And so, yeah, the pillars look like when you
know you're in your purpose and you are so
579
00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:33,565
deeply aligned with it and so on purpose and in
purpose all the time, then, that attracts to
580
00:41:33,565 --> 00:41:36,784
you the people that are meant to be working
with you.
581
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:37,780
Yeah.
582
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,500
Absolutely.
583
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:39,380
I love that.
584
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:46,125
The more clear you are, the more you're walking
that talk, the more you show up, the easier it
585
00:41:46,125 --> 00:41:50,304
is to gain momentum in building a movement
that's going to catch fire quickly.
586
00:41:50,924 --> 00:41:55,809
So with that, how do you gain trust support and
buy in for your movements?
587
00:41:58,269 --> 00:42:04,925
I think when you are so you know, totally
aligned and authentic when you are just, you
588
00:42:04,925 --> 00:42:07,824
know, like, do I have all the answers for all
the people?
589
00:42:08,285 --> 00:42:09,425
Absolutely not.
590
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:10,630
Right.
591
00:42:10,630 --> 00:42:15,190
I mean, I couldn't, you know, and that's one of
the things I loved about Mike Holly was, you
592
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:21,094
know, he was never proprietary about us
teaching his work because he said, you know,
593
00:42:21,094 --> 00:42:27,099
you are going to speak to, certain people that
I won't be able to they won't be able to hear
594
00:42:27,340 --> 00:42:27,660
You know?
595
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:28,880
And that's the thing.
596
00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:39,724
I think that, you know, the excitement comes
when we see in somebody else what it is that we
597
00:42:39,724 --> 00:42:44,809
wanna attain, you know, like you said, walking
the walk, you know, doing all this stuff.
598
00:42:44,809 --> 00:42:49,050
Like, you know, my morning, I used to just hop
out of bed and, you know, I've always been a
599
00:42:49,050 --> 00:42:50,349
super up person anyway.
600
00:42:50,489 --> 00:42:51,630
Like, I love the mornings.
601
00:42:51,875 --> 00:42:58,114
Get a lot done, to slow my morning down to do
all these rituals of things was not something
602
00:42:58,114 --> 00:43:05,550
that was in my MO, but you know, as we talked
about before, when we we set up our day for
603
00:43:05,550 --> 00:43:10,505
success like that, There's no stopping the day
from being, like, absolutely amazing.
604
00:43:11,045 --> 00:43:15,070
And I usually go, like, I go on a walking
meditation with my dog every morning, and I
605
00:43:15,070 --> 00:43:16,190
into meditation music.
606
00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:22,510
And I am often brought to tears of joy through
that because I've had this incredibly moving
607
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:29,824
experience, and I think that's what gets people
excited is, you know, and I think, you know,
608
00:43:29,824 --> 00:43:35,199
again, getting back to the energy, it's like,
you know, what vibration are you at, you know,
609
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:40,855
where are you, how are you bringing it to the
world and people feel they, you know, whether
610
00:43:40,855 --> 00:43:46,855
it's my Instagram posts, my videos, or
whatever, like, they're, that's what I was sort
611
00:43:46,855 --> 00:43:49,010
of like in tears of joy over this morning.
612
00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:53,010
A friend of mine, had shared a video and was
like, oh my gosh.
613
00:43:53,010 --> 00:43:54,050
This was so inspiring.
614
00:43:54,050 --> 00:43:55,250
I really needed to hear that.
615
00:43:55,250 --> 00:44:01,784
And, like, how honored I am that I get to,
like, you know, share what's truly matters to
616
00:44:01,784 --> 00:44:03,784
me, and it means something to somebody else.
617
00:44:03,784 --> 00:44:05,340
Like, How awesome is that?
618
00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:06,960
Don't we all wanna feel like that?
619
00:44:07,340 --> 00:44:07,840
Yeah.
620
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:08,400
Absolutely.
621
00:44:08,539 --> 00:44:09,739
I think we all want that.
622
00:44:09,739 --> 00:44:12,400
That's truly success in his lifetime.
623
00:44:12,994 --> 00:44:18,614
So, Aaron, can you share a story, an inspiring
story tied to your movement?
624
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:34,144
This may be a less exciting story, but, a
client of mine you know, he really, when I met
625
00:44:34,144 --> 00:44:38,210
him super uptight, you know, all the things
that were just like me, right?
626
00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:45,170
So all the, you know, running around and
getting angry and, you know, this sort of
627
00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:49,885
attitude of, like, you know, a lot of people
like to say this, oh, that's just common sense,
628
00:44:49,885 --> 00:44:54,059
you know, and he would just always spout off
about, like, common, like, you know, it's
629
00:44:54,059 --> 00:44:54,860
common sense.
630
00:44:54,860 --> 00:44:57,500
My employee didn't do this thing, and it's
common sense.
631
00:44:57,500 --> 00:45:02,139
And getting him to understand that it isn't
common sense.
632
00:45:02,139 --> 00:45:04,144
There is no such thing as common sense.
633
00:45:04,144 --> 00:45:11,969
It's like, what is, you know, what's in the
realm of what you understand is very different
634
00:45:11,969 --> 00:45:12,949
to each person.
635
00:45:13,250 --> 00:45:20,635
And when you allow somebody to see that path to
understanding that My way is not, you know,
636
00:45:20,635 --> 00:45:28,075
common sense or right, that their way is not
common sense or right, that we all have our own
637
00:45:28,075 --> 00:45:34,780
path and are able to, navigate them as best as
we can and are all really doing the best that
638
00:45:34,780 --> 00:45:38,554
we can with all that we know and and all our
experiences.
639
00:45:39,494 --> 00:45:44,394
So getting him, you know, having him come back
to me and say, oh, gosh, I had this experience
640
00:45:44,454 --> 00:45:48,239
where you know, my employee totally did the
wrong thing.
641
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:54,694
And instead of me flying off the handle or
getting upset, or, you know, saying that's
642
00:45:54,694 --> 00:45:55,494
common sense.
643
00:45:55,494 --> 00:45:57,414
What I did was I went back to me.
644
00:45:57,414 --> 00:46:03,659
You know, I took personal responsibility and
said, where did I not you know, tell them the
645
00:46:03,659 --> 00:46:09,579
right information so they could do the right
thing or, or he had a personal experience where
646
00:46:09,579 --> 00:46:13,885
he showed up and there was a confusion and
there was no place for him to stay.
647
00:46:13,945 --> 00:46:23,299
And there, And the lady, you know, because of
because he didn't overreact, she, the Airbnb
648
00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:28,974
person went ahead and got them another place
and comped them their stay.
649
00:46:28,974 --> 00:46:30,174
And, you know, things like that.
650
00:46:30,174 --> 00:46:38,719
It's it's little But to somebody who is being
in reaction all the time to when you shift you
651
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:44,045
and how you come in this world, and the energy
that you put out in this world, and everybody
652
00:46:44,184 --> 00:46:47,464
shifts because of that, that's fascinating to
see.
653
00:46:47,464 --> 00:46:49,404
And I think that's a super wind.
654
00:46:49,464 --> 00:46:50,045
You know?
655
00:46:50,269 --> 00:46:50,589
Yeah.
656
00:46:50,589 --> 00:46:53,809
I mean, you you say that's a simple story, but
it's very powerful.
657
00:46:53,869 --> 00:47:00,974
So when we show up and we respond versus react
and we're from a place of compassion versus
658
00:47:00,974 --> 00:47:04,835
reaction and defensiveness or anger, it it's so
true.
659
00:47:04,894 --> 00:47:10,420
Things that experiences that typically in the
past would be belligerent or challenging or
660
00:47:10,420 --> 00:47:15,585
negative or resulting in conflict, results in
the opposite experience for the person wants
661
00:47:15,585 --> 00:47:20,484
help you because you're showing up with
compassion and joy and responding versus
662
00:47:21,184 --> 00:47:26,670
reacting, and people can sense and then they
wanna help you because you're being nice.
663
00:47:26,969 --> 00:47:28,409
And it's just it's so different.
664
00:47:28,409 --> 00:47:30,329
It's simple, but not simple.
665
00:47:30,329 --> 00:47:32,269
Like, it's simple, but hard to do.
666
00:47:32,554 --> 00:47:37,114
And very empowering once you have a couple of
these small experiences because it opens your
667
00:47:37,114 --> 00:47:38,894
whole world up for opportunity.
668
00:47:39,194 --> 00:47:39,914
So I love that.
669
00:47:39,914 --> 00:47:40,574
It's beautiful.
670
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,159
So, Erin, this has been great.
671
00:47:43,159 --> 00:47:45,980
We're gonna dive into our lightning round of
questions.
672
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:46,760
So,
673
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:47,579
like Okay.
674
00:47:49,425 --> 00:47:49,925
Alright.
675
00:47:49,984 --> 00:47:51,764
So what's your favorite book?
676
00:47:53,664 --> 00:47:58,644
It's between a new Earth by Eckhart Holly and
the Jean of the soul Gary Zukov.
677
00:47:59,309 --> 00:48:00,049
Love it.
678
00:48:00,589 --> 00:48:03,730
What networking or community group do you love
the most?
679
00:48:09,605 --> 00:48:11,305
What do I love the most?
680
00:48:13,809 --> 00:48:18,449
I, you know, of course, I'm drawn to Mike Duley
because I I, have, you know, firsthand
681
00:48:18,449 --> 00:48:20,150
experience with him, and he's amazing.
682
00:48:20,849 --> 00:48:22,230
I love his stuff.
683
00:48:22,514 --> 00:48:28,275
I also anything that has to do with Eckhart
Tole, he is definitely we are on the same path,
684
00:48:28,275 --> 00:48:31,974
and I am a 100% in on all that he believes
685
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,340
Awesome.
686
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,340
What's the best piece of advice you would share
with others today?
687
00:48:41,734 --> 00:48:47,574
If you can separate yourself from what's you
believe is happening, the experience that
688
00:48:47,574 --> 00:48:51,809
you'll have in this life, is, you know, because
whatever's happening is gonna happen,
689
00:48:52,269 --> 00:48:55,150
regardless, and the thing you control control
is you.
690
00:48:55,150 --> 00:49:01,925
And so if you can at least separate yourself to
give your give yourself some time and space to,
691
00:49:03,105 --> 00:49:07,900
see what it is you're actually experiencing
versus being in reaction.
692
00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:09,359
I think that's that's huge.
693
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:10,400
Okay.
694
00:49:10,699 --> 00:49:14,319
And if you could share one message with the
world, what would that be?
695
00:49:15,605 --> 00:49:16,824
This life is beautiful.
696
00:49:16,885 --> 00:49:22,469
We are meant to be in joy at all times all
throughout our day, every day, and every
697
00:49:22,469 --> 00:49:22,969
experience.
698
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:28,889
And the sooner we can stop resisting that, the
happier we'll all be.
699
00:49:29,590 --> 00:49:30,309
I love that.
700
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:31,690
Stop resisting joy.
701
00:49:32,565 --> 00:49:32,884
Okay.
702
00:49:32,884 --> 00:49:36,344
My last question, what's the legacy that you
wish to leave behind?
703
00:49:39,989 --> 00:49:47,530
If I can impact, you know, just anybody in
having a better experience in this life and,
704
00:49:48,230 --> 00:50:00,680
you know, show my, daughter that life is meant
to be joyful and that, you know, abundance and
705
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:07,264
all the, beautiful experiences that we have
come from that place, come from the allowing of
706
00:50:07,585 --> 00:50:12,224
what is to be versus the wanting things to look
a certain way.
707
00:50:12,224 --> 00:50:17,019
If I can leave that legacy with her and her
generation, Wow.
708
00:50:17,019 --> 00:50:18,960
What a wonderful place this would be.
709
00:50:19,659 --> 00:50:20,159
Absolutely.
710
00:50:20,539 --> 00:50:21,900
I hold that vision with you.
711
00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:24,324
That's a beautiful vision for this world.
712
00:50:25,045 --> 00:50:26,824
So Erin has been very generous.
713
00:50:26,964 --> 00:50:31,684
She has a free get traction phone consultation
that you can book with her.
714
00:50:31,684 --> 00:50:34,590
I will have that link in the show notes.
715
00:50:34,890 --> 00:50:39,610
I also will have a link to her website, her
Instagram, and her Facebook so you can follow
716
00:50:39,610 --> 00:50:44,795
or reach out to Erin directly if you need
support around anxiety or getting traction.
717
00:50:45,094 --> 00:50:47,355
Aaron, anything else you'd like to add on that?
718
00:50:48,454 --> 00:50:51,329
I just wanna thank you for having me on here.
719
00:50:51,329 --> 00:50:53,890
These are the conversations that I love to
have.
720
00:50:53,890 --> 00:50:55,829
This is what life is about here.
721
00:50:56,210 --> 00:51:03,684
Thank you for creating a platform for people
to, experience conscious evolution, which I
722
00:51:03,684 --> 00:51:06,550
believe is is where we're all headed.
723
00:51:07,010 --> 00:51:14,844
And, the sooner we can get there, the more, joy
we can create in this, experience now.
724
00:51:15,484 --> 00:51:16,284
Oh, thank you.
725
00:51:16,284 --> 00:51:16,525
Yeah.
726
00:51:16,525 --> 00:51:19,264
It's wonderful to have you here on the
platform.
727
00:51:19,885 --> 00:51:24,969
So for our listeners, I look forward to seeing
you next week on the show.
728
00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:28,730
Thank you for joining the show today.
729
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:30,489
I hope you were inspired.
730
00:51:31,244 --> 00:51:33,904
More importantly, I hope you take action.
731
00:51:34,684 --> 00:51:39,025
What is one thing you can do in this moment
that will inspire someone?
732
00:51:39,724 --> 00:51:42,369
Without action, Nothing changes.
733
00:51:43,389 --> 00:51:46,369
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
734
00:51:47,230 --> 00:51:52,364
If this show truly inspired you, we ask that
you share it through your network.
735
00:51:52,984 --> 00:51:57,324
Help us spread the light and inspiration in the
world.
736
00:51:57,784 --> 00:52:00,525
I look forward to seeing you here next week.