Speaker 1: From the Berkshires to the sound from wherever you live in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop on major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame voter number seventy six, Rob Parker. Welcome into the podcast. I'm your host, Rob Parker with a very special postseason edition of Inside the Parker. Coming up, We're gonna talk with former Major League manager and the World Series champ Joe Matt Also, Dodgers radio reporter David Vasse will stop in and talk about the collapse of the Los Angeles Dodgers. Let's go up to lead off. It's getting robbed to keep him on. Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. Number one. Game two of the ALCS will take place Thursday evening in Houston. UM. This is gonna be an interesting series. Of course, the Astros are the favorite in this series. Yankees coming into the series after hard for battle against the scrappy Cleveland Guardians, and the Astros have really had the Yankees numbers in the last couple of post seasons. But this will be a little something. I think there are a lot of people who are hoping and wishing that the Yankees can actually knock out the Astros um that cheating scandal just hasn't sat well with a lot of people, and uh, it would be an opportunity for people to actually root for New York root for the Yankees again. The last time I think it really happened was two thousand and one after the nine eleven tragedy, and most of Baseball America rooted for the Yankees. They wanted them to win the World Series, considering what the city went through. We all know that they lost in seven games to the Arizona Diamondbacks and a real thriller in two thousand one. But I think the Yankees are under dogs and I think people in Baseball America are pulling for the Yanks. Two. I don't know, if you're an l A Angels fan, you might be a little nervous when you're here show. Hey, Old Tani the two Way star said that quote. He had a rather negative impression end quote of the Angels season. In fact, the Angels have not won more than eighty games since Old Tani got there. So I think the Angels, who might be up for sale. I think they are for sale. Might have to think about what the dude going forward and whether or not to keep Altani or to deal him. If this guy's not gonna stick around, and then you could get some more wealth and you already have Mike Trout. Do you really need both or do you need to trade Altani for maybe some pitching, because without pitching, it doesn't matter. If you have two of the greatest offensive players, they need pitching and lots of it. Number three Bryce Harper is a star. I know people were questioning him when he left Washington and they won a championship without him, but last year he won the National League m v P. This year he was playing great, got hurt. His team is now a series contended to get to the World Series. After they won Game one of the NLCS in San Diego and Harper had a home run off of you Irvish to left field, a bomb, and now he has four postseason home runs this playoffs. The record for a single postseason is Barry Bonds with eight going back to two thousand and two. But Bryce Harper has a real shot at breaking that. I mean the way he's swinging the bat and I think people need to stop with the Bryce Harper is not a superstar. He is. He's a tremendous player, a big time player who's been clutch for the Phillies, and there's a big reason why they are where they are and have a real shot to win a World Series out of nowhere. Think about that, they fired their manager Joe Girardi and here they are with a red hot Brice Harper. Some drop that pitching and uh, they're in the driver's seat. It's amazing. Here comes the big inner. You listen. Hendler's good. All right, Now, let's welcome into the podcast Joe Men of course, the World Series champion and three time Manager of the Year. Joe, Welcome to the podcast. Thank you wait to be here. Joe. I know you have some exciting news to talk about, and we're gonna get to that about your podcast. But let's jump into the postseason and what we've seen so far. What's been the biggest surprise to you. Is it how well the Phillies have played or that the Dodgers are knocked out. I'm not shocked my either thing. Playoffs are different anything that happened in the playoffs. I think obviously the one two is a is a really great indicator of how good your team is. It tell us about your depth, um, your consistency probably has a lot to do with your starting pitching and your bullpen. So that's that's one sixty two. And truly you can still make an argument even when this is over that one team that loss may have been better overall. But playoffs are different. Yet these short series, anything can happen. Catch a hot hand or you catch a cold hand. Um, and that's that's the beauty of it all. I've been involved in that with some early exits and some that I've done my teams have gone more deeply. But I I just think that sometimes you have to understand these are both professional teams, and both sides are capable stepping up at any time and playing really well. So honestly, I'm not shocked by any of it. How About in the a LCS the Yankees had to fight off the young Cleveland team and the Astrals had a cake walk through. The Astrals have an advantage coming into this series. Well, I just think Houston has the upper hand regardless. I just they're they're more complete ball club. I've only I saw the Yankees a little bit this summer. The Angels, we've they're in New York. They beat us, they swept us, and then of course played Houston too. I I'm just a big fan of the Houston everything. I think their lineup, their lineup is very good. I think maybe offensively it lightens up towards the game, but so do a lot of other lineups. But their pitching is that good, and their bullpen is that good. And when they put some of their starters, I don't know what Hobby as Well is going to be or garcias Roll is going to be. These guys will be front line starters on everybody else's team. So, um, it's Houston is that good regardless, Um, Yankees gonna they've been extended a little bit um again in the bullpen. Eavything is about the pitching in the bullpen. It's a couple of their guys got on track yesterday, Judge and Stanton, but the man, it's just it's a different animal that Houston pitching staff. And they're they're gonna have to get more production up and down a line that the Yankees are to really um circumvent the overcome the Astros, and I believe the Astros are going to play their typical game, and it's some big hits from the middle of the lineup, and they pitched them. They're gonna pitch up standing. Let me ask you about the a l m v P as we step aside from the postseason for a minute. Obviously, you manage show Hey, old Tani, who's unbelievable two way player. But Aaron Judge put together a season for the ages. Who is your a l m v P. I took the cowardly way off I played Switzerland. I think they're both deserving. Um, I I really do. I mean, it's hard to differentiate. You can make the argument Judge more valuable based on the inankey success versus the Angels success as a team, but gosh, individually with Showy did both on the mountain and at the plate, nobody else has done. Nobody, nobody could match that in either league last year or this year. So it just depends on the criterion that the voters want to utilize here. Um, because I could easily see as for show Hey. Um in a straight up vote, I probably, after I thought about it's more probably with vote for show just based on what I said it's two players in one. When he win fifteen games, his offensive numbers were crazy good. Um, he's two guys. It's two guys against the one. And these two guys are both all Star caliber players, whether you're pitching or hitting with Judge, that is outstanding. I'm a big fan of him personally. I think he's he's wonderful. I think he's a great representative of our support and his team and himself. So I'm a big fan. But um, he had a vote, I'd give it a couple more votes for showing based on the double duty, but I prefer seeing them tie. Does winning not factor in when you think about an m v P, Yeah, and I I guess it does because I'm just looking purely at performance most valable player. I mean I saw early on when I was in the big leagues when Alex Rodriguez won it on the for the Texas Rangers. He was the m v P on the last place team, and that you know, that was never really I don't think disputed. I think it's again, it's it's the scrutiny of regarding the you know, the different uh avenues, folks, narratives popping into it, and then I think who remember has the vote becomes clouded in regards to what they really think or how they want to approach it. There's just so many different methods. I just individually, I think the voters, whatever they believe, and whatever they believe it's the winning team or what's the best player, however they choose to do, understand the voting procedures to go with it. But for me, Um, I would say it's the best player based on numbers, and I think Um, like I said, both great, but show what he did this year nobody else in baseball's done. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. All right, now, let's get to the podcast. It is called the Book of Joe Podcast, and you'll be breaking down the MLB postseason, including managerial decisions with Foxes. Tom Verducci. Tell me about the podcast and what we can expect. Tom Berducci and I, UM, it's been really first been great, great experiences working with him on our book. Um, he's such a brilliant writer. And beyond that, I mean as a as a sportscaster, as a broadcaster, he always has great insight and he's got a really great bedside manner, the way he um his approach and how he gets the point across, how he asks a question, how he answers a question. So it's it's primarily about what's going on right now in the game. We do dub into our books sometimes and we'll point out some examples of what maybe what's happening now compared to what we've talked about in the book. Um, but primary just really what's happening now? Um kind of uh. And I wanted to call it ramble on using a song title from Led Zeppelin from a couple of years ago, one of my faiths. So it is it's just a dialogue, it's a conversation. Uh. Some of the things will be my observations, and I'll bring him to Tom's attention, but of course he's really good at doing that in my direction. But it's just what's going on in baseball right now? And and really uh, not walking away or running away from a tough question and trying to give it a straight up answer. And last thing, do you hope to manage again or you're done managing. Um, it's just really conflicted right now. I do, I do, I would like to do it again with the right group, and I I don't know based on everything I'm saying in my approach right now, that I'm going to be attractive to the majority of the teams or any of the teams that have a manager real opening. My desire would be that eventually somebody that really wants to incorporate more of the tried and true methods of coaching and working a baseball game rely on that. I'm not saying absent of analytics, information scotting, whatever you want to call it. Of course I want that, but I want the empowerment going back to the dug up the coaches and the manager and the players, and I want less empowerment with people coming down from upstairs and telling everybody what to do. There's too many voices, there's there's too many items clouding your thoughts were the day, and I would prefer that not happening. UM. So, if that opportunity is out there somewhere, I've got to be great. I'd love to be part of that. But under the circumstances in the way, UM, it's trending a where it's at right now, how the the industry is being run. I really would like to wait and hope that I look for somebody that would prefer incorporating a blend what's happened in the past and the blend for me that fifty fifth you'd have to be way more heavily and tried and true baseball methods with more of a supplement coming from the analytical Thank you so much, Joe, appreciate it and look forward to listening to the podcast. Thank you, and I really appreciate you asking about it. You guys be well, and then again, I do appreciate the opportunity. Thank you. Listen to the Book of Joe podcast with Joe Madden and Tom Verducci twice a week in the I Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcast. Also, the Book of Joe is a new book as well, also featuring Madden and Verducci, so check that out The Book of Joe wherever books are sold. When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto. If I'm writing, I'm ripping, Let's bring in a writer and broadcaster older new now, let's welcome in David Vasse, who is the Dodgers radio reporter for A M five seventy l A Sports and Dave, Welcome to the podcast. Thanks for having me back on, Rob. Always a pleasure. Hey man, let's get right to it. How shocked were you that the Dodgers got knocked out by the Padres? Completely shocked? Rob. I thought this series where the Padres beat the one hundred and eleven win Dodgers, was one of the biggest playoff upsets in Major League Baseball history. Not only the Dodgers with a hundred and eleven wins, only the seventh major league team to do that, but the fact that they beat the Padres in the NL West by two games. They were twenty two games better than the Padres during the regular seasons. And for the Dodgers, they didn't show up. Trey Turner didn't show up after the first game, Mookie Betts never showed up. UM so very disappointing showing from their superstars, and that those are the guys you count on, but definitely show I thought the Dodgers would sweep the Padres, if not beat them in four games. The reason I gave the Padres a shot at beating the Dodgers was because of their starting staff, and after game one you had you Darvish, Blake Snell and Joe must Grove, and the Dodgers had their first two starters, but then David was up in the air, and that's why I thought they had an advantage. Great call by you, Rob. When the Padres were able to win Game two or steal Game two Clayton Kershaw start, they went back home tied one one with having their best starters still in play in Blake Snell and Joe must Grove after Darbish out pitched Kershawn Game two, So you were spot on they had the advantage in Game three. I wasn't really that concerned about Joe must Grove. The Dodgers had handled them pretty well during the regular season, but certainly they had the advantage in game three. Our guest that David Vasse, Dodger reporter for a M five seventy l A sports how about the manager is always going to get a lot of grief and Dave Roberts is getting it. How much of it is his fault or is this from upstairs and the analytics people who script out the game for him? Well, Number one, Rob, the Dodgers at one point in time, until Freddie Freeman had an RBI doubling Game four were over for their last twenty with runners in scoring position. Dave Roberts is not at fault for that. Mookie Betts only had two hits the entire series. Dave Roberts is not at fault for that. Now specifically in Game four. Um to my knowledge, and I've spoken to people that were in the clubhouse in the dugout when it came to pulling Tyler Anderson, the Dodgers did not script out Tyler Anderson to come out of that game. But at that point in time, there was Dave Robert's call, and you hear sometimes Andrew Friedman mentioned this, it's a fifty call, And that was a fifty call that Dave Roberts decided to take his starter out despite not having a true closer, to shorten that game. And then from there that's where the snowball occurred. And you never saw their best reliever, Phillips in that seventh inning put out the biggest fire of the season, when he had been in that spot all season long putting out fires. Those were Dave Roberts calls, and I think to a certain extent. It was scripted to save Phillips until the ninth inning, and he did not deviate from that script. Yeah, that's what the issue comes in. Sometimes, the biggest out in the games on in the ninth inning, Dave Right, You're right, Rob, But I will say this and Dave's defense, he was trying to hold out Evan Phillips for the final three outs because if he does bring him into the seventh inning, now you're looking at Almonte and Bestia, the two pitchers left to get the final six outs of that game. But like you said, Rob, the game was on the line right there, and you needed your best reliever to put out that fire, and he chose to hold him back. Let's talk about the offseason for the Dodgers, and he got a couple of things to do. Now. Carlos Correa opted out of his contract with the Twins and as a free agent, and Trey Turner, of course, is going to be a free agent with the Dodgers. What happens is Carlos Correa coming to l A and Trey Turner going on the free market. I don't believe Tray Turner will be act with the Dodgers. I think that's a long shot. He's going to command a lot of money from teams that need talent, and he's probably going to get paid. Um. As far as Carlos Carea, he'd be a great fit for the Dodgers if he wasn't Carlos Correa from the seventeen Astros um. So, I just don't see how this fan base would accept Carlos Correa. Uh, it is a perfect fit, but he's Carlos Correa, robbed. I feel like they can't bring him into this fan base, especially with the way they went out this year and how defiant Andrew Freeman was in his press conference after the Dodgers loss. He didn't really endear himself to this fan base, uh, saying that everybody's coming back and there was really just bad luck for the Dodgers to go out. I just don't know how you bring Carlos Krey into this fan base. Yeah, I don't buy it. It was bad luck and it was just baseball. He sounds like he's one of the lakers, you know, Like, I don't understand it. Rob. You could say that one year, you can't say that three years after winning a hundry games. You can't say that, no doubt. His name is David Vasse, one of the best in the business. He's the Dodger reporter on radio for A M five seventy l A Sports. Thanks Dave, Thanks Rob all. Its great talking to you, no doubt. In the words of New York TV legend the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time until next time. Rob Parker out. He can't get it. This could be an inside the Parker to see you next week. Games SA, bad time SAT stations, the church, John has As Jeal
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Speaker 1: From the Berkshires to the sound from wherever you live in MLB America. This is Inside the Parker. You give us twenty two minutes and we'll give you the scoop on major League Baseball. Now here's Baseball Hall of Fame voter number seventy six, Rob Parker. Welcome into the podcast. I'm your host, Rob Parker with a very special postseason edition of Inside the Parker. Coming up, We're gonna talk with former Major League manager and the World Series champ Joe Matt Also, Dodgers radio reporter David Vasse will stop in and talk about the collapse of the Los Angeles Dodgers. Let's go up to lead off. It's getting robbed to keep him on. Rob's hot take on the three biggest stories in Major League Baseball. Number one. Game two of the ALCS will take place Thursday evening in Houston. UM. This is gonna be an interesting series. Of course, the Astros are the favorite in this series. Yankees coming into the series after hard for battle against the scrappy Cleveland Guardians, and the Astros have really had the Yankees numbers in the last couple of post seasons. But this will be a little something. I think there are a lot of people who are hoping and wishing that the Yankees can actually knock out the Astros um that cheating scandal just hasn't sat well with a lot of people, and uh, it would be an opportunity for people to actually root for New York root for the Yankees again. The last time I think it really happened was two thousand and one after the nine eleven tragedy, and most of Baseball America rooted for the Yankees. They wanted them to win the World Series, considering what the city went through. We all know that they lost in seven games to the Arizona Diamondbacks and a real thriller in two thousand one. But I think the Yankees are under dogs and I think people in Baseball America are pulling for the Yanks. Two. I don't know, if you're an l A Angels fan, you might be a little nervous when you're here show. Hey, Old Tani the two Way star said that quote. He had a rather negative impression end quote of the Angels season. In fact, the Angels have not won more than eighty games since Old Tani got there. So I think the Angels, who might be up for sale. I think they are for sale. Might have to think about what the dude going forward and whether or not to keep Altani or to deal him. If this guy's not gonna stick around, and then you could get some more wealth and you already have Mike Trout. Do you really need both or do you need to trade Altani for maybe some pitching, because without pitching, it doesn't matter. If you have two of the greatest offensive players, they need pitching and lots of it. Number three Bryce Harper is a star. I know people were questioning him when he left Washington and they won a championship without him, but last year he won the National League m v P. This year he was playing great, got hurt. His team is now a series contended to get to the World Series. After they won Game one of the NLCS in San Diego and Harper had a home run off of you Irvish to left field, a bomb, and now he has four postseason home runs this playoffs. The record for a single postseason is Barry Bonds with eight going back to two thousand and two. But Bryce Harper has a real shot at breaking that. I mean the way he's swinging the bat and I think people need to stop with the Bryce Harper is not a superstar. He is. He's a tremendous player, a big time player who's been clutch for the Phillies, and there's a big reason why they are where they are and have a real shot to win a World Series out of nowhere. Think about that, they fired their manager Joe Girardi and here they are with a red hot Brice Harper. Some drop that pitching and uh, they're in the driver's seat. It's amazing. Here comes the big inner. You listen. Hendler's good. All right, Now, let's welcome into the podcast Joe Men of course, the World Series champion and three time Manager of the Year. Joe, Welcome to the podcast. Thank you wait to be here. Joe. I know you have some exciting news to talk about, and we're gonna get to that about your podcast. But let's jump into the postseason and what we've seen so far. What's been the biggest surprise to you. Is it how well the Phillies have played or that the Dodgers are knocked out. I'm not shocked my either thing. Playoffs are different anything that happened in the playoffs. I think obviously the one two is a is a really great indicator of how good your team is. It tell us about your depth, um, your consistency probably has a lot to do with your starting pitching and your bullpen. So that's that's one sixty two. And truly you can still make an argument even when this is over that one team that loss may have been better overall. But playoffs are different. Yet these short series, anything can happen. Catch a hot hand or you catch a cold hand. Um, and that's that's the beauty of it all. I've been involved in that with some early exits and some that I've done my teams have gone more deeply. But I I just think that sometimes you have to understand these are both professional teams, and both sides are capable stepping up at any time and playing really well. So honestly, I'm not shocked by any of it. How About in the a LCS the Yankees had to fight off the young Cleveland team and the Astrals had a cake walk through. The Astrals have an advantage coming into this series. Well, I just think Houston has the upper hand regardless. I just they're they're more complete ball club. I've only I saw the Yankees a little bit this summer. The Angels, we've they're in New York. They beat us, they swept us, and then of course played Houston too. I I'm just a big fan of the Houston everything. I think their lineup, their lineup is very good. I think maybe offensively it lightens up towards the game, but so do a lot of other lineups. But their pitching is that good, and their bullpen is that good. And when they put some of their starters, I don't know what Hobby as Well is going to be or garcias Roll is going to be. These guys will be front line starters on everybody else's team. So, um, it's Houston is that good regardless, Um, Yankees gonna they've been extended a little bit um again in the bullpen. Eavything is about the pitching in the bullpen. It's a couple of their guys got on track yesterday, Judge and Stanton, but the man, it's just it's a different animal that Houston pitching staff. And they're they're gonna have to get more production up and down a line that the Yankees are to really um circumvent the overcome the Astros, and I believe the Astros are going to play their typical game, and it's some big hits from the middle of the lineup, and they pitched them. They're gonna pitch up standing. Let me ask you about the a l m v P as we step aside from the postseason for a minute. Obviously, you manage show Hey, old Tani, who's unbelievable two way player. But Aaron Judge put together a season for the ages. Who is your a l m v P. I took the cowardly way off I played Switzerland. I think they're both deserving. Um, I I really do. I mean, it's hard to differentiate. You can make the argument Judge more valuable based on the inankey success versus the Angels success as a team, but gosh, individually with Showy did both on the mountain and at the plate, nobody else has done. Nobody, nobody could match that in either league last year or this year. So it just depends on the criterion that the voters want to utilize here. Um, because I could easily see as for show Hey. Um in a straight up vote, I probably, after I thought about it's more probably with vote for show just based on what I said it's two players in one. When he win fifteen games, his offensive numbers were crazy good. Um, he's two guys. It's two guys against the one. And these two guys are both all Star caliber players, whether you're pitching or hitting with Judge, that is outstanding. I'm a big fan of him personally. I think he's he's wonderful. I think he's a great representative of our support and his team and himself. So I'm a big fan. But um, he had a vote, I'd give it a couple more votes for showing based on the double duty, but I prefer seeing them tie. Does winning not factor in when you think about an m v P, Yeah, and I I guess it does because I'm just looking purely at performance most valable player. I mean I saw early on when I was in the big leagues when Alex Rodriguez won it on the for the Texas Rangers. He was the m v P on the last place team, and that you know, that was never really I don't think disputed. I think it's again, it's it's the scrutiny of regarding the you know, the different uh avenues, folks, narratives popping into it, and then I think who remember has the vote becomes clouded in regards to what they really think or how they want to approach it. There's just so many different methods. I just individually, I think the voters, whatever they believe, and whatever they believe it's the winning team or what's the best player, however they choose to do, understand the voting procedures to go with it. But for me, Um, I would say it's the best player based on numbers, and I think Um, like I said, both great, but show what he did this year nobody else in baseball's done. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. All right, now, let's get to the podcast. It is called the Book of Joe Podcast, and you'll be breaking down the MLB postseason, including managerial decisions with Foxes. Tom Verducci. Tell me about the podcast and what we can expect. Tom Berducci and I, UM, it's been really first been great, great experiences working with him on our book. Um, he's such a brilliant writer. And beyond that, I mean as a as a sportscaster, as a broadcaster, he always has great insight and he's got a really great bedside manner, the way he um his approach and how he gets the point across, how he asks a question, how he answers a question. So it's it's primarily about what's going on right now in the game. We do dub into our books sometimes and we'll point out some examples of what maybe what's happening now compared to what we've talked about in the book. Um, but primary just really what's happening now? Um kind of uh. And I wanted to call it ramble on using a song title from Led Zeppelin from a couple of years ago, one of my faiths. So it is it's just a dialogue, it's a conversation. Uh. Some of the things will be my observations, and I'll bring him to Tom's attention, but of course he's really good at doing that in my direction. But it's just what's going on in baseball right now? And and really uh, not walking away or running away from a tough question and trying to give it a straight up answer. And last thing, do you hope to manage again or you're done managing. Um, it's just really conflicted right now. I do, I do, I would like to do it again with the right group, and I I don't know based on everything I'm saying in my approach right now, that I'm going to be attractive to the majority of the teams or any of the teams that have a manager real opening. My desire would be that eventually somebody that really wants to incorporate more of the tried and true methods of coaching and working a baseball game rely on that. I'm not saying absent of analytics, information scotting, whatever you want to call it. Of course I want that, but I want the empowerment going back to the dug up the coaches and the manager and the players, and I want less empowerment with people coming down from upstairs and telling everybody what to do. There's too many voices, there's there's too many items clouding your thoughts were the day, and I would prefer that not happening. UM. So, if that opportunity is out there somewhere, I've got to be great. I'd love to be part of that. But under the circumstances in the way, UM, it's trending a where it's at right now, how the the industry is being run. I really would like to wait and hope that I look for somebody that would prefer incorporating a blend what's happened in the past and the blend for me that fifty fifth you'd have to be way more heavily and tried and true baseball methods with more of a supplement coming from the analytical Thank you so much, Joe, appreciate it and look forward to listening to the podcast. Thank you, and I really appreciate you asking about it. You guys be well, and then again, I do appreciate the opportunity. Thank you. Listen to the Book of Joe podcast with Joe Madden and Tom Verducci twice a week in the I Heart Radio app or wherever you get your podcast. Also, the Book of Joe is a new book as well, also featuring Madden and Verducci, so check that out The Book of Joe wherever books are sold. When Rob was a newspaper columnist, he lived by this motto. If I'm writing, I'm ripping, Let's bring in a writer and broadcaster older new now, let's welcome in David Vasse, who is the Dodgers radio reporter for A M five seventy l A Sports and Dave, Welcome to the podcast. Thanks for having me back on, Rob. Always a pleasure. Hey man, let's get right to it. How shocked were you that the Dodgers got knocked out by the Padres? Completely shocked? Rob. I thought this series where the Padres beat the one hundred and eleven win Dodgers, was one of the biggest playoff upsets in Major League Baseball history. Not only the Dodgers with a hundred and eleven wins, only the seventh major league team to do that, but the fact that they beat the Padres in the NL West by two games. They were twenty two games better than the Padres during the regular seasons. And for the Dodgers, they didn't show up. Trey Turner didn't show up after the first game, Mookie Betts never showed up. UM so very disappointing showing from their superstars, and that those are the guys you count on, but definitely show I thought the Dodgers would sweep the Padres, if not beat them in four games. The reason I gave the Padres a shot at beating the Dodgers was because of their starting staff, and after game one you had you Darvish, Blake Snell and Joe must Grove, and the Dodgers had their first two starters, but then David was up in the air, and that's why I thought they had an advantage. Great call by you, Rob. When the Padres were able to win Game two or steal Game two Clayton Kershaw start, they went back home tied one one with having their best starters still in play in Blake Snell and Joe must Grove after Darbish out pitched Kershawn Game two, So you were spot on they had the advantage in Game three. I wasn't really that concerned about Joe must Grove. The Dodgers had handled them pretty well during the regular season, but certainly they had the advantage in game three. Our guest that David Vasse, Dodger reporter for a M five seventy l A sports how about the manager is always going to get a lot of grief and Dave Roberts is getting it. How much of it is his fault or is this from upstairs and the analytics people who script out the game for him? Well, Number one, Rob, the Dodgers at one point in time, until Freddie Freeman had an RBI doubling Game four were over for their last twenty with runners in scoring position. Dave Roberts is not at fault for that. Mookie Betts only had two hits the entire series. Dave Roberts is not at fault for that. Now specifically in Game four. Um to my knowledge, and I've spoken to people that were in the clubhouse in the dugout when it came to pulling Tyler Anderson, the Dodgers did not script out Tyler Anderson to come out of that game. But at that point in time, there was Dave Robert's call, and you hear sometimes Andrew Friedman mentioned this, it's a fifty call, And that was a fifty call that Dave Roberts decided to take his starter out despite not having a true closer, to shorten that game. And then from there that's where the snowball occurred. And you never saw their best reliever, Phillips in that seventh inning put out the biggest fire of the season, when he had been in that spot all season long putting out fires. Those were Dave Roberts calls, and I think to a certain extent. It was scripted to save Phillips until the ninth inning, and he did not deviate from that script. Yeah, that's what the issue comes in. Sometimes, the biggest out in the games on in the ninth inning, Dave Right, You're right, Rob, But I will say this and Dave's defense, he was trying to hold out Evan Phillips for the final three outs because if he does bring him into the seventh inning, now you're looking at Almonte and Bestia, the two pitchers left to get the final six outs of that game. But like you said, Rob, the game was on the line right there, and you needed your best reliever to put out that fire, and he chose to hold him back. Let's talk about the offseason for the Dodgers, and he got a couple of things to do. Now. Carlos Correa opted out of his contract with the Twins and as a free agent, and Trey Turner, of course, is going to be a free agent with the Dodgers. What happens is Carlos Correa coming to l A and Trey Turner going on the free market. I don't believe Tray Turner will be act with the Dodgers. I think that's a long shot. He's going to command a lot of money from teams that need talent, and he's probably going to get paid. Um. As far as Carlos Carea, he'd be a great fit for the Dodgers if he wasn't Carlos Correa from the seventeen Astros um. So, I just don't see how this fan base would accept Carlos Correa. Uh, it is a perfect fit, but he's Carlos Correa, robbed. I feel like they can't bring him into this fan base, especially with the way they went out this year and how defiant Andrew Freeman was in his press conference after the Dodgers loss. He didn't really endear himself to this fan base, uh, saying that everybody's coming back and there was really just bad luck for the Dodgers to go out. I just don't know how you bring Carlos Krey into this fan base. Yeah, I don't buy it. It was bad luck and it was just baseball. He sounds like he's one of the lakers, you know, Like, I don't understand it. Rob. You could say that one year, you can't say that three years after winning a hundry games. You can't say that, no doubt. His name is David Vasse, one of the best in the business. He's the Dodger reporter on radio for A M five seventy l A Sports. Thanks Dave, Thanks Rob all. Its great talking to you, no doubt. In the words of New York TV legend the late Bill Jorgensen, thanking you for your time this time until next time. Rob Parker out. He can't get it. This could be an inside the Parker to see you next week. Games SA, bad time SAT stations, the church, John has As Jeal