ABOUT THIS EPISODE
In this episode, we engage with Colin Scott, Nicole Mignacca, and Ellie Kim from Innventure, a leading firm renowned for transforming cutting-edge technology into successful market solutions. Join us as we explore Innventure's unique approach to reducing risks and accelerating commercial success through strategic collaborations and a systematic evaluation process.
Colin, Nicole, and Ellie share valuable insights into identifying high-potential technology opportunities, the critical role of strategic partnerships, and how they engage with multinational corporations to catalyze innovation. Learn about the challenges and metrics involved in the journey from concept to commercialization, and how Inventure’s model aims to ensure innovative solutions reach their maximum market impact. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the mechanics of bringing transformative technology to life!
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All right, let's go ahead and get started. So thanks, everyone,
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for joining us today. And I want to give a big thank you to Colin Scott,
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Nicole Mignacca, and Ellie Kim of Inventure, who agreed to be interviewed.
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So Inventure systematically evaluates, develops, and launches transformative
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technology solutions in collaboration with corporations to fundamentally reduce
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risk and accelerate the highest potential for commercial success.
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So Colin is their senior vice president of DownSelect and leads in ventures
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rigorous analysis to identify, develop, and launch high potential technology opportunities.
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Nicole is director for DownSelect, and she brings her expertise in systematic
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technology evaluation with extensive experience in life sciences and innovation strategy.
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And Ellie is Director of Economic and Financial Analysis for DownSelect and
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she brings her expertise in financial and data analytics to assess the economic
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viability of all technology solutions.
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And I'm Lee Green and I run IRI's Research and Strategic Initiatives.
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Just a few housekeeping items to get through before we can begin the conversation.
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So first of all, this session is being recorded and you will get a link to the recording.
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We'll be distributing the recording as a podcast so there won't be any visuals here today.
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Second, please hold all your questions until toward the end.
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Once we open the floor to questions, you can either type those into the chat
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or you can raise your hand using that function on the dashboard,
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and you can ask your question face-to-face.
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Great. Let's go ahead and get started with the team.
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I'm going to go ahead and ask each of you to share a little bit about your background
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and your role, and let's go ahead and start with Colin.
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Thanks, Lee. Appreciate you having us and the great introduction.
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My name is Colin Scott. I'm the Senior VP of DownSelect at InVenture.
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I've spent 20 plus years building technology startups from the ground up using
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substantially a similar model to what we have at InVenture today.
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I've done that in a variety of roles and in a variety of industries across a
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wide range of technologies, having a lot of fun doing it,
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and have a background in electrical engineering and physics,
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but sort of quickly found that I really enjoyed building businesses out in the
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world as opposed to spending my time building technologies in the lab.
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And I think those who worked with me in the lab certainly appreciate that decision. Nicole?
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Great. Thanks, everyone, for being here today. As Lee mentioned,
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my name is Nicole Minyaka, and I'm the director of DownSelect at InVenture.
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I've been with InVenture now for about five years, and I've had the opportunity
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to evaluate hundreds of different opportunities from a broad range of our multinational
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partners across a really broad range of industries.
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I've also had the opportunity to play a role at one of the new ventures that
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we started under our group, which is Aeroflex. So it's been a great opportunity
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to be able to work both at InVenture and at the NUCO level, as we call it.
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Prior to joining InVenture, I spent the early part of my career bringing life
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science innovations to market, really all the way from ideation through commercialization
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and then marketing those products to doctors.
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So prior to that, my formal training is in biology and really just appreciate
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the opportunity to have this connection with you all today.
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All right. Thanks. So call Ellie. Hi, my name is Ellie Kim. I'm the Director
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of Economic and Financial Analysis at Inventor.
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I'm part of the DownSelect team, and I work with Colin and Nicole here.
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My career started off as something more like traditional finance,
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banking, and Wall Street after studying economics and biology undergrad.
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After a few years in banking, I pivoted to corporate management since I was
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interested in what went into the decision makings of corporations as I was dealing
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with many MNCs during my banking career.
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So after leaving Wall Street, I got my MBA at Northwestern and went into corporate
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management at various companies.
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My experience spans across e-commerce, industrial, and pharmaceutical.
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And all of those diverse experiences combined brings a lot of value to what
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I do day to day, which is around understanding the financial viability of different
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opportunities from various industries.
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As we remain industry agnostic, having this variety of experience,
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as well as being able to remain flexible is really valuable for what we do.
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So I'm very excited to be here and speak more about what we do and walk you
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through our processes. Thank you so much for having us.
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Great. Okay. So now everyone knows who everyone is.
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So, Colin, why don't you kick us off and tell us a bit more about InVentures
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Evolution and how the commercialization model works and it's been developed?
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Yeah, sure. This is, you know, an adventure's origin story. Where do we come from?
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And it's really intertwined tightly with the history of our founders and executives.
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And I'll give you an example.
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Our current chief strategy officer and co-founder, Dr. John Scott.
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He and Mike Otworth, our founding CEO and chairman, and Bill Haskell,
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our current CEO, along with our co-founder, recently retired, Rick Brenner.
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They worked together for many years going back into the 80s.
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And, you know, John started as a scientist. He was an academic.
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He's got dual PhDs in physics and high energy astrophysics. So he's a smart cookie.
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We got a few of those on our team, which is nice to be surrounded by that.
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And he decided to leave academia and he became chief science officer of a public company,
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found he didn't like big corporate life and
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went out on his own started a technology company
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from the ground up grew it sold it thought that
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was kind of neat started a second company grew
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it sold it found out that he really had a lot of fun doing that and he and bill
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haskell and later mike otworth and rick brenner and others got together and
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said you know we should apply some systematic rigor,
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some scientific method to the concept of building potentially disruptive technology
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companies from the ground up.
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And that's where it started in the early 90s.
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And, and so they, and we have been working on refining that process since then.
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And, you know, I think today we have what,
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what I like to think is as sort of the perfection of a model,
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or at least is getting towards that as we try to be a learning organization,
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but it's really focused for us on now a collaboration with multinationals who
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can really bring so much to the table when combined with the entrepreneurial
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and operational expertise that we bring.
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And that collaboration is really unique that can really fundamentally,
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from our perspective, reduce risk for every new code that we start by the time we start it.
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And that's a really important focus of our methodology because if you look at
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a standard approach to technology startups, there's a lot of sort of spreading
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risk across a portfolio.
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And that's okay if what you have is fungible cash and probability on the whole
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gives you the return you're looking for.
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But if what you have is non-fungible people and time and resources and technology
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solutions to unmet market needs that you have knowledge about,
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those things aren't fungible, right?
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So you have to make sure when you're doing what we do, you have to make sure
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that everything you commit to has the highest probability for success that it possibly can.
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So that's what Adventure tries to focus on.
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Okay. All right. I think I got it. But we have one more background question,
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and then I want to kind of dive into all of your thought leadership and all
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the insights that you all have to share.
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So, Nicole, can you tell us what DownSelect actually is and,
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you know, the framework and how does it differ from other technology models,
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evaluation models? similar.
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Yeah, absolutely. Excited to share some more on our process here.
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So the way that we think about it really is that downslut is like the beating heart of InVenture.
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It's our systematic process by way we can review opportunities against our model
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and what's important to us so that we can ultimately make the right decisions
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on what new companies that we start under our group and set them up for success.
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As Colin mentioned, we're very selective in what we go after.
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And when we make a determination on starting a new venture around something,
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we're full force on making sure that that would be a success.
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We operate and fund that company on our own. So we're very, very invested in
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the success of our ventures.
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And our model is really designed around bringing transformative,
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disruptive market solutions to the world.
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So not incremental, really those truly disruptive technologies.
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That's what our model is centered around identifying and then reducing risk for market entrance.
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So some of the core pillars of our model that set us apart is we're looking
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for, like I said, transformative technology solutions,
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usually a B2B approach that have been developed to a certain level of TRL,
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so technology readiness level, for us to bring it forward.
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We're looking for things that truly solve an unmet need in the market that is
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significant and that is expected to grow over time in terms of its need.
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We also quantify the value proposition that can be created by bringing the solution to market.
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And that's what we use to drive early adoption.
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So by having that in hand, we can drive early adoption by being able to show
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the dollars and cents value that we can bring to our customers.
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And that's how we overcome their reluctance to change the way they do things, right?
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Going back to being disruptive and transformative, we are looking to change
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the way that the market operates. And with that, there will be reluctance.
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So that's why we really focus on the quantification of the value proposition.
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And we also work with our multinational partners to support catalyzing early adoption.
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So having them in our corner, either as a customer or a channel to the market,
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really helps bring that risk level down as well.
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So when we complete our downselect analysis, what the outcome is,
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is a blueprint, excuse me, and full go-to market strategy for the venture that we're starting.
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So the work that's done in Down Select is basically the work that would be done
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in the first year or two of new venture creation.
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But we do that work prior to even starting the company so that we can be really
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sure that we understand what are the risk points and what are our mitigation
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strategies as we continue to introduce it into the market.
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So like I said before, it's really all about making the right decisions for
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us and setting our companies up for success.
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And another really key way that we do that is with our broad team of experts
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that we have in-house across a broad range of disciplines.
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That really allows us to be holistic. And we have what we call CXOs.
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So basically what CXOs are are in-venture people who are really wired for that
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entrepreneurial skill set that step into our new ventures and play a role in their early days.
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So that they can support that transition and setting them up for success.
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So that's something that we really foster within our culture at InVenture is
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that kind of CXO role with the idea of InVenture people supporting our new codes,
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eventually coming back to InVenture at the right time.
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And again, everything is really all around how do we create the most abundant,
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fruitful soil for the new ventures that we're starting under our company?
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If I may add real quick, Nicole, I have a good example of something that paints a good picture.
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So I just wanted to quickly talk about my personal experience in the role.
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So when I first joined the team, I thought my role would be something similar
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to what I would do at private equity or venture capital company.
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But my week one, I had a very long, like hundreds of pages of technical documents,
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and I was expected to really immerse myself in them.
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I'm sure many of you in this call are familiar with something like this,
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but I've never seen anything like that before.
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I mean, I was a business person. So mass balance, energy balance,
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process flow, and the list goes on.
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And I thought my job was going to be just crunching numbers.
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But once I familiarized myself with all the technical information and understood
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it to the degree that I can identify gaps,
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variabilities, and key areas of risks, of course, with the help of our internal
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and external experts, like Nicole mentioned, I was able to go into the next
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level of financial analysis and simulation.
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And this approach of going much beyond just crunching numbers really sets us
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apart from just putting together the financials.
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At least this was my experience and I wanted to share this with everyone because
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I think it paints a good picture of some things we do and how we're different.
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So yeah, I thought it might be a good addition to what Nicole just described.
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Great. Okay. So, Ellie, let's stick with you.
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And so what are the most common risk factors that you have come across when
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you're looking at breakthrough technologies?
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Right. So we believe there are five key inherent risks that they are around
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market, customer, technology, capital, and operations.
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And can you expand on those a little bit? Yes, yes, absolutely.
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So fundamentally, we assess technology solutions instead of developing them
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from ground up. So this comes with unique challenges.
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And while we have significantly lowered risks around market,
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customer, and technology, which were the first three I mentioned,
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we're responsible for still funding and operating and scaling our new costs.
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And while this may sound very similar to budget allocation risks at multinational
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corporations, we also have to go out there and raise funds. And this is where
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our capital markets team becomes crucial.
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We also take on the risk of starting and operating the company,
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not just a business unit or a team.
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So while the downslide analysis around market sizing, value chain research, sensitivity analysis,
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technology validation, and so on, de-risks many of the micro-level factors,
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there's still many macro-level factors that may be out of our control.
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And those are the risks that we face when we start a new company.
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So it may not be a fail-proof approach, but it's rather a risk-reduced approach,
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which is still very significant.
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So I believe many of you in this webinar will be joining us in our workshop in person.
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So Nicole and I will be there, and we'll make sure to cover some examples of this in detail as well.
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And Ellie, let me just add a quick comment. When we're looking at those five
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risks, I usually think about those first three market, customer and technology.
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Those are really the risk reduction is entangled very closely with our collaboration
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with the multinational, right?
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Because they have a massive amount of market data and knowledge and insight
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that, as we say, no lone entrepreneur could gather in 50 lifetimes.
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So that's a very important element that helps us reduce the risk of our understanding of the market.
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And in the same way, the customer, especially related to early adoption,
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understanding really what the customer's needs are and how the solution can
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solve those needs for them and drive value.
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So that collaboration with our multinational collaborators is essential to that understanding.
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And then, of course, the technology, they are either developing the technology
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themselves or adopting it as a customer, validating that technology itself.
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So that collaboration really helps reduce those first three risks.
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And then our demonstrated success over time helps continue to minimize the other
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two risks around funding and operations.
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Great. Colin, let's stick with you because we're going to talk about the subject
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that everyone has a love-hate relationship with, metrics. Oh, yes.
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Everyone loves metrics. So can you talk a little bit about the metrics that you use?
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And also, you know, we're talking about transformative innovation here,
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how you balance that short and long term, which is always a huge challenge.
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Yeah, yes, it is. I'll start by saying there's no silver bullet.
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And anyone that tells you there is one metric to rule them all is selling you
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something that you don't want to buy.
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So generally, I'd tell you that you really want to understand the fundamentals of your situation.
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What are your objectives you're trying to reach?
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And what are realistic metrics that are meaningful to help you and the rest
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of your organization understand your ability to reach those outcomes?
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And it's i
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don't again i don't think there are universal metrics i'll
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say for us again what we're
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trying to do is found fun operate and scale transformative technology solutions
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as new companies and for us we look at what we refer to as match which are five
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elements of what we call quality scoring match,
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it's the market, the advantage.
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The timeline, the capital, and high value.
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And so when we're looking at opportunities to found as in venture operating
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companies, Nucos, we want to understand the external environment.
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That's the market, understanding the market. Is it big enough?
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Is it growing fast enough? What are the market dynamics? What are the trends?
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Is it an attractive market to pursue for our goals?
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Then from an advantage perspective, what we really want to understand is in
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the context of that market and the competitive landscape,
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how does our solution play into the solving the fundamental needs of customers
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in that market in a way that only we can deliver?
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And not only do we want to deliver a unique solution into the marketplace,
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but we need to make sure that it delivers competitive advantage that drives
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value uniquely, but that can also be maintained over time.
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Obviously, there's intellectual property that can help with that.
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Patents, know-how, but there are also strategic control points that you want
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to intentionally program into your business model.
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You know, is there a point in the supply chain where there's a bottleneck?
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How can you get a preferential access there, for example?
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Right. So you want to make sure for us, we need to make sure that we have an
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advantage that can be established and then maintained over time.
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And then the timeline for us, and this will tie into the scale of ROI,
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is all about understanding what are the most meaningful commercial milestones
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that you need to be able to reach to demonstrate that path to success,
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long-term business success.
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How long do you think it's going to take you to get to each of those?
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What's the organization you need to put into place to be able to reach those?
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What's the strategy that you need to implement to be able to reach those?
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And mapping that out to make sure that it fits with the goals that we have for
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us reaching a billion dollar enterprise value for every new code that we start, right?
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And we're not waiting 20 years to get there for us. You know,
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so understanding that timeline is important and then matching that with the capital strategy.
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What amount of capital is required to reach each of those milestones?
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When do we need to raise that?
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What's the cost of capital expected to be at each of those points,
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given the risk-adjusted nature of reaching those milestones?
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What's the strategy to reach that amount? What's the structure?
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All of those things we want to try to map out ahead of time so that we understand
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what it's going to take to get to where we want to go.
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And then high value. And this is, you know, Nicole mentioned And Downselect
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is the beating heart of an adventure.
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And for me, this value piece is the soul of Downselect.
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And that's really deeply understanding what delivering a solution into the marketplace
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to an otherwise unmet need, how does that drive economic value for the customers that adopt?
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So understanding not just the features and benefits, but the dollars and cents.
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And understanding that is what helps us understand how compelling that solution
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is to drive early adoption.
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If it's game changing, companies like people don't like to change what they
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do. So you have to compel them.
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And so a sufficiently compelling value proposition is what can predictably drive early adoption.
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And so for us, it's all about finding that match that is a fit with our collaborator
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and their strategic goals and in venture and our goals.
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And again, And understanding for your situation,
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what the metrics are to help you reach your outcomes, and then how you want
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to define the timeline on which you need to see what kind of returns. So it's very similar.
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And you want to understand what matters for you and your organization.
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Again, no silver bullet, but you do definitely want to make sure that you understand
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the different time scales and the risk adjustments that you need to make to
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get to different time points.
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So that's how we look at it that can be generalized.
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And, you know, Ellie and Nicole are going to do a great job of covering this
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a lot more in detail in the workshop. up.
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Yeah, quickly, Colin, I'd love to add to that, which I think you hit on really
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well, is that the metrics are what's important to us.
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You know, I mentioned in my bio earlier that, you know, we've looked at hundreds of opportunities.
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Many of those opportunities that we may have passed on are very much so viable
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businesses for other groups or other opportunities in terms of bringing them
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to market, but weren't a fit for us.
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So I think that point is really key in terms of what we focus on and the metrics
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there and then that driving our decision making.
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Great. And Nicole, just to stick with you, so what strategies have you found
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that have been effective for these collaborations and, you know,
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to kind of speed the process and make sure everything's strategically aligned for everyone, too?
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Yeah, absolutely. And just to be specific, we're talking about collaborations
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with our multinational partners.
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And really how we approach that and make sure that we have strong relationships
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there is by really showing them what makes us unique.
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You know, multinationals, they invent so many incredible technologies,
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and not all of those technologies make sense for them to commercialize for one reason or another.
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It might fall slightly outside of their strategic focus or be slightly outside
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of their core competency.
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And when that happens, and sometimes that happens on a truly transformative
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technology, these are opportunities that are worthy of having their own company created around them.
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And that's where we come in. You know, also, multinationals are really used
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to a lot of people coming to them and trying to sell them their ideas and their technologies.
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And really, what we come to them with is a unique model to say,
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we want to actually acquire your technologies, we want to buy them.
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It's more of a buyer versus a seller mindset, where we're able to come in and
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help them create financial and strategic value from their R&D network that they
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might not be interested for one reason or another, like I said,
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in terms of commercializing internally.
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So when we approach them and in the structure of our relationships,
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we really focus on our complementary skill sets.
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So as Colin mentioned earlier, you know, multinationals have more market data
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than any one entrepreneur could ever hope to have. So they have tons of market data.
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They are really tapped into the market needs, which, as we mentioned earlier,
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is super important for our model.
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They have significant R&D networks with incredible technologies within them.
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They are also, in terms of size, just able to be very large in terms of global reach.
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But that also does create a lot of red tape. It makes it hard to move quickly.
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It makes it hard to do something that's very different or outside of the box
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of what they typically do.
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And that's, again, where our complementary skill sets come in,
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in terms of being entrepreneurial, agile,
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set up to do really big and different things and set up to do that in a way
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that allows us to fund and operate that so we can take that risk off of their
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plate ultimately and really set them up to gain,
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like I mentioned earlier, financial and strategic value from what we're working
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to commercialize with them.
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The gold piece for us is if we can find a technology that is truly strategic
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to them that we can bring to market to create that really strong value across both sides.
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We also have a strategic partnerships team that is set up to work with our multinationals
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directly, ensure that the relationship has full transparency,
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really strong communication,
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and expectations around our process for the different process-y steps,
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what they can expect throughout that.
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And then we do work, of course, to meet with our multinational partners in person
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and collaborate as much as we can.
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And then in the eventual opportunity and eventual place where if we pass on
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a specific project, we always provide our research and our due diligence back to them.
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So we almost provide free consulting services, if you think about it that way,
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in terms of if we pass on an opportunity, we make sure that they get all of our information back.
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And we got a lot of good feedback from them and our multinational partners related
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to, wow, like, you know, we never thought about it this way,
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or you helped us uncover this new value creation item that we hadn't thought about.
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So our goal across the board is strategic value back to our multinational.
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And that can take a lot of different forms, whether it's just something that
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we're evaluating or if it's a new venture that we start.
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So it's really all around that and just, you know, working with people that
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we really enjoy and having strong relationships. That's really key for us, too.
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Okay. And speaking of relationships, so, Ellie, can you talk a bit more about
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how you all make sure that you're engaging customers in a meaningful way in
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this whole process? Yes.
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So ideally, if an opportunity is introduced to us by a multinational corporation,
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the first potential customer for that technology is often that MNC collaborator,
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meaning the customer engagement can happen as early as day one of us evaluating that opportunity.
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As soon as this happens, we start to deeply understand the underlying unmet
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need and the market context,
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because it's crucial for us to understand how this technology solving that need
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can drive economic value to those that adopt it,
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and then ultimately understand how our multinational collaboration collaborator
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can catalyze early adoption by being a customer or a channel.
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And to ensure the technology solution is addressing not just the needs of our
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MNC collaborator, but of the overall value chain, one of our unique approaches is called ICQVP.
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It's an internal term, but it stands for immediate, compelling,
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quantitative value proposition.
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As you can tell from what it stands for, it's basically understanding the value
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proposition in a way that is a lot more quantitative, granular, and robust.
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We go into the level of dollars and cents through the whole value chain,
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not just to the immediate supplier and customer.
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Because if the technology is truly transformative, it's going to affect everyone
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in that value chain, not just who you buy from and who you sell to.
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So for us, this is essential. And as Nicole mentioned, we've shared this analysis
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with our collaborators in the past as well.
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And they found it very helpful. And this helps to strengthen our relationship
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with our collaborators, who may be the customers as well. So there is that relationship building.
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And I also want to highlight that this is an approach that could be beneficial
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for every organization.
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So, you know, if anyone in this webinar is considering how can we strengthen
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our analysis, this is definitely one of the levers.
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So to bring us back home, early and meaningful customer engagement and combining
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that with our unique approaches, such as ICQVP, is what gives us an edge in
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commercializing new technologies through validating the needs,
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value proposition, and early adoption.
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Okay. So, Colin, what are some of the challenges around building an innovation
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ecosystem that you've seen?
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It's critical, but it can be hard to actually go out there and make those connections.
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And so what have you seen that are best practices there?
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So I'll say that there are two areas to focus on from my perspective.
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And we can talk a little bit about how we do that sometimes.
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But for me, the first area to focus on is always keeping in mind the need and the solution.
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And then the second area is deeply understanding.
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The strategic and capability gaps in your own organization and collaborating
00:30:21.778 --> 00:30:26.218
with a partner mindset like Nicole talked about to fill those gaps.
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So those are the two big things for me from the perspective of the needs and the solutions.
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A lot of times, and I'm very guilty of this myself, you know,
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we fall in love with our own pet project.
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And, you know, I'm a geek. I love cool technology and I want to do something with it more.
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And so, you know, there's always that tendency to continue a project because
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there's some coolness to it.
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It's got some draw for you in some way.
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But if it doesn't represent a solution to a need, then it is going to be impossible
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to build the right innovation ecosystem around it.
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You can find people to progress it, but it's not going to come to the right end, right?
00:31:18.598 --> 00:31:23.998
And so if every time you are starting a project or working on a project and
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understanding how to build the innovation ecosystem around it,
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maintains that discipline to focus on the need and the solution.
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And then the second piece is understanding your strategy and your capability
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and identifying the gaps in that and making sure that you find that pointed line,
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solution to your problem, right? You find the collaborator that can fill that gap that you need.
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There are lots of reasons, as was mentioned earlier, there are lots of reasons
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where it makes sense to try to develop a technology solution to a need that
00:32:04.461 --> 00:32:08.681
you have, but it doesn't make sense to be the one to commercialize that.
00:32:09.381 --> 00:32:14.681
Maybe because you have different strategic direction, maybe because the organization's
00:32:14.681 --> 00:32:20.261
already decided not to build the internal core competency and capability to be able to pursue that.
00:32:20.581 --> 00:32:23.521
And that makes a lot of sense, but you have a gap then.
00:32:23.701 --> 00:32:28.621
So how do you identify the right collaborator to fill the specific gap there?
00:32:28.961 --> 00:32:33.421
So it's understanding really what you should do, what you can do,
00:32:33.441 --> 00:32:36.501
and who you need to help do that.
00:32:36.701 --> 00:32:42.921
And I'm sure If you're listening here, you don't identify at all with red tape
00:32:42.921 --> 00:32:46.681
in your organization, and things work very smoothly and very easily.
00:32:46.901 --> 00:32:49.761
So this is talking to other people, I'm sure.
00:32:50.281 --> 00:32:56.721
But, you know, if you need to commercialize a new potentially disruptive,
00:32:57.101 --> 00:33:01.621
transformative, game-changing technology solution, you need to be able to operate
00:33:01.621 --> 00:33:03.081
with speed and flexibility.
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And not all organizations are able to do that internally.
00:33:08.361 --> 00:33:12.041
And that's why when we collaborate with multinationals, you know,
00:33:12.181 --> 00:33:14.841
we kind of get the sense of where have you been?
00:33:15.221 --> 00:33:20.681
I have this gap. I have lots of really great paths to internally commercialize
00:33:20.681 --> 00:33:26.241
things that are incremental, that fit with our strategy, our core product lines and our divisions.
00:33:26.941 --> 00:33:31.941
If it's something that totally makes sense for an external incumbent, that's great.
00:33:31.941 --> 00:33:35.601
But when something doesn't fit those kind of paths, what do we do?
00:33:35.601 --> 00:33:40.801
And so, you know, that's just identify your gaps, understand who can fill those
00:33:40.801 --> 00:33:46.541
gaps, make sure that it's aligned and everyone keeps in mind the need and the
00:33:46.541 --> 00:33:47.621
solution associated with it.
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So that for me are those are some of the big challenges.
00:33:52.282 --> 00:33:57.782
Okay. So last question before we open up to the audience.
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So, Nicole, just what are some areas we should be looking at in the next three to five years?
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What, you know, technology sectors or market needs are going to be the big game
00:34:07.302 --> 00:34:08.642
changers that you think we'll see?
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Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, I think everyone's pretty familiar with
00:34:12.322 --> 00:34:15.942
kind of the big, big heavy hitting ones, you know, AI, cryptocurrencies,
00:34:16.402 --> 00:34:17.502
various software things.
00:34:17.702 --> 00:34:21.362
I mean, the list goes on. But for us, in the way that we look at things,
00:34:21.522 --> 00:34:25.942
we're less focused on what are the hot industries where there might be some
00:34:25.942 --> 00:34:30.982
potential to win now versus we take the mindset of where are the unmet needs
00:34:30.982 --> 00:34:36.162
agnostic to the industry where there can be the perfect match between a technology
00:34:36.162 --> 00:34:39.842
solution that we have at hand and the right time to meet that need.
00:34:39.842 --> 00:34:44.022
So when it comes down to it for us, that's the lens that we look at it through.
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And when you find a really strong need and a technology solution that fits at
00:34:48.362 --> 00:34:51.002
the right time, it really can be the perfect match.
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And we find the most success in taking that model as opposed to really staying
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focused on, you know, maybe a couple of industries that are really fought in the moment.
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All right so if anyone
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would like to raise their hand you can come on and do
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a question there or feel free to put them into the chat all right we've had
00:35:13.822 --> 00:35:20.362
one come in okay so can you share any surprises that you've had anything unexpected
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that you were able to to uncover that you didn't really think you'd be able to.
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So I'll take a cut at this. I'll tell you that, and it's an example of what
00:35:33.183 --> 00:35:36.443
we see in the four operating companies that we've started,
00:35:36.883 --> 00:35:41.903
is that sustainability can and should be a driver of value.
00:35:42.663 --> 00:35:49.903
There are lots of reasons for this, but ultimately, if something is not economically
00:35:49.903 --> 00:35:55.163
viable, it's not sustainable for a commercial organization, right?
00:35:55.403 --> 00:36:01.203
And it's been, I don't know, sort of a pleasant surprise that as we analyze
00:36:01.203 --> 00:36:03.603
the sustainability impact of
00:36:03.603 --> 00:36:08.283
many opportunities, but especially the four companies that we've started,
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that the elements that make something sustainable,
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drive value, right?
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If you have an advantage because you're using fewer resources like energy or material,
00:36:25.443 --> 00:36:31.663
then you have a lower cost structure and that increases your margin and that drives value, right?
00:36:31.903 --> 00:36:37.563
And then there are other ways that there is some brand enhancement value,
00:36:37.823 --> 00:36:44.643
or you meet certain criteria that customers need, and these things help drive preferred adoption,
00:36:44.983 --> 00:36:49.863
premium pricing, that grows the top line, that drives economic value.
00:36:50.603 --> 00:36:58.163
So seeing that play out in really all four of our companies has been quite a pleasant surprise.
00:36:59.103 --> 00:37:02.083
To really build quickly off that before we jump into this one,
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Colin, as part of our process, we're always looking to improve the process based
00:37:06.643 --> 00:37:09.763
on opportunities that we pass through and learnings that we have.
00:37:09.983 --> 00:37:12.403
And when we do that, there's always things where it's like, oh,
00:37:12.463 --> 00:37:14.283
I wish we had known this at the time.
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I wish, you know, I could have foreseen this trend, right?
00:37:17.503 --> 00:37:20.463
Because you only have the information that you have when you're doing your due
00:37:20.463 --> 00:37:22.903
diligence process and you're making your recommendations.
00:37:23.403 --> 00:37:26.863
But ultimately, at the end of the day, that's why it's so key for our people
00:37:26.863 --> 00:37:31.003
to be adaptable, especially because we're working with such transformational
00:37:31.003 --> 00:37:33.763
opportunities that you need to be able to adapt to,
00:37:34.323 --> 00:37:38.303
okay, this is what we believe to be true and due diligence, but when we actually
00:37:38.303 --> 00:37:40.643
put it into the market and we start to see that market change,
00:37:40.783 --> 00:37:44.803
how can we continue to adapt to make sure that we are, you know,
00:37:44.943 --> 00:37:47.323
changing with the market as we bring the solution together?
00:37:47.323 --> 00:37:50.743
So there's always that element that I think is really key for anybody who's
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successful within our enterprise.
00:37:53.993 --> 00:37:58.493
All right. So the question that came in was, when you do your due diligence,
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do you have criteria that it has to pass TRL 1, 2, 3, or 4, etc?
00:38:05.793 --> 00:38:11.633
Yeah, great question. Of course, we have our own pretty standard stage gate
00:38:11.633 --> 00:38:16.913
kind of process, which I think can be widely applicable in a lot of situations
00:38:16.913 --> 00:38:19.613
that you'll find in your own situation.
00:38:20.453 --> 00:38:25.653
And again, it goes back to understanding what your objectives are and what metrics
00:38:25.653 --> 00:38:30.693
you need to see to be able to show sufficient progress towards those outcomes.
00:38:30.793 --> 00:38:33.773
For us, we have four phases of our evaluation.
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They are opportunity screen, critical factor assessment, comprehensive quantification,
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and then strategy and formation.
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And I'll say, you know, most opportunities fall out in phase one,
00:38:45.993 --> 00:38:50.833
most of the rest of them fall out in phase two, and a few make it to phase three,
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and we've only had four that have made it to phase four and then become a new co.
00:38:56.373 --> 00:39:02.393
And, you know, so really, I think the best thing to do is understand what is
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most critical as soon as you can so you can get to fast no's.
00:39:06.593 --> 00:39:12.853
For us, opportunity screen is where we just look at, are the elements of the
00:39:12.853 --> 00:39:16.393
opportunity that could be a fit with our model there?
00:39:16.633 --> 00:39:19.133
And does it look like there's sufficient potential, right? For us,
00:39:19.193 --> 00:39:23.573
an opportunity is a combination of a collaborator, a need, a solution, and a model.
00:39:24.013 --> 00:39:28.073
We look at all those things together and say, you know, does it look like,
00:39:28.213 --> 00:39:31.853
does it smell like an opportunity that is an Inventure Nuka?
00:39:32.453 --> 00:39:35.213
And a lot of times we can say it's not a great fit for us.
00:39:35.913 --> 00:39:38.753
There's some commercial value out there for someone else in another model,
00:39:38.953 --> 00:39:42.253
and here's what we learned about it, but it's not for us, right?
00:39:42.413 --> 00:39:46.793
And then very quickly, we focus on what we call the critical factors.
00:39:46.933 --> 00:39:53.213
And these are both critical success factors that we have to ensure are enabled
00:39:53.213 --> 00:39:57.313
to find success and critical risk factors that we need to be able to address
00:39:57.313 --> 00:39:59.073
to manage to find that success.
00:39:59.433 --> 00:40:03.913
So, you know, each of those phases focus on a different thing,
00:40:04.133 --> 00:40:08.173
but always with the perspective of trying to understand what's most important
00:40:08.173 --> 00:40:10.353
to make the fastest, best decision.
00:40:11.449 --> 00:40:14.789
Yeah, and one quick build on that too, Colin, because I know you also asked
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the question on the TRL side of things.
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Because we are typically looking at technologies, what we're focused on is,
00:40:21.329 --> 00:40:25.349
you know, a robust proof of concept that has some ability to show that it does
00:40:25.349 --> 00:40:28.289
solve the underlying unmet need that we're looking for,
00:40:28.469 --> 00:40:31.909
right, is kind of the stage that we look for it to be about.
00:40:32.129 --> 00:40:35.469
And, you know, there's flexibility on both sides and that depending on the opportunity,
00:40:35.649 --> 00:40:37.509
but generally speaking, that's what we're looking for.
00:40:38.469 --> 00:40:41.749
Yeah, and I'll just say one last quick thing to build on that point.
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It's a great one, Nicole, thank you.
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Is that, you know, these opportunities that come to us are projects that have
00:40:50.129 --> 00:40:55.449
already been developed, you know, say internally at a multinational or somewhere
00:40:55.449 --> 00:40:56.729
in their innovation ecosystem,
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that it's not, we don't start with an idea and need to develop a technology
00:41:02.589 --> 00:41:05.309
as a solution to a need, right?
00:41:05.369 --> 00:41:07.869
It comes to us partially baked, already.
00:41:08.569 --> 00:41:12.229
And then our job is to prototype the company.
00:41:12.509 --> 00:41:20.009
And if your goals and outcomes that you're looking for are more related to internal
00:41:20.009 --> 00:41:21.329
development of technology,
00:41:21.329 --> 00:41:28.649
then you absolutely need to put in the right sort of metrics and stop points and check-ins to say,
00:41:28.769 --> 00:41:35.649
have we reached a sufficient TRL to sufficiently reduce the technical risk of
00:41:35.649 --> 00:41:37.169
future development or not?
00:41:37.509 --> 00:41:41.849
And so, again, what makes sense for your situation? I'm sure Ellie and Nicole
00:41:41.849 --> 00:41:46.149
will be going over lots of ways that you can kind of think through how some
00:41:46.149 --> 00:41:50.289
of these concepts apply to your particular situation. But that's one way to think about it.
00:41:51.356 --> 00:41:53.756
All right, great. So we've got a couple more questions here.
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So this one's a two-parter.
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So first, what differentiates you all from other venture firms?
00:42:02.156 --> 00:42:07.016
And then also, just if you could touch on what challenges you've seen for chemical
00:42:07.016 --> 00:42:14.256
or hardware manufacturing companies facing in terms of commercialization versus software firms.
00:42:14.756 --> 00:42:18.936
I can cover the first part, which is, you know, what's what differentiates us
00:42:18.936 --> 00:42:20.736
from other venture firms.
00:42:21.156 --> 00:42:25.936
So and team, please feel free to build on my response. So I think a big difference
00:42:25.936 --> 00:42:29.236
and a fundamental difference is that we're focused on technology,
00:42:29.356 --> 00:42:30.456
not on the company, right?
00:42:30.536 --> 00:42:35.136
We call ourselves a technology commercialization platform, as we found fund,
00:42:35.276 --> 00:42:37.256
operate and scale our new coast.
00:42:37.496 --> 00:42:42.256
And our process tends to be a lot more robust as I focus on really understanding
00:42:42.256 --> 00:42:44.216
the technology from the beginning to end.
00:42:44.256 --> 00:42:49.556
And as Nicole mentioned, we've looked at over 100 opportunities and the fact
00:42:49.556 --> 00:42:52.996
that we have four new codes in the end shows that we're not really spreading
00:42:52.996 --> 00:42:55.476
our bets and risks with the portfolio approach,
00:42:55.636 --> 00:43:01.276
but rather really focusing on the analysis and going deeply into that.
00:43:01.276 --> 00:43:05.436
Another differentiator is that a lot of times there's a focus,
00:43:05.676 --> 00:43:10.456
especially in the venture capital world, around funding on the R&D as these
00:43:10.456 --> 00:43:12.056
are very early on startups.
00:43:12.296 --> 00:43:17.956
And what we do, as we previously mentioned, is that we can really partner and
00:43:17.956 --> 00:43:21.796
leverage the R&D of the multinational collaborators.
00:43:21.856 --> 00:43:28.056
So we're able to bypass that and focus on founding funding and scaling our new
00:43:28.056 --> 00:43:32.616
co. So that's another big differentiator compared to the other venture firms.
00:43:33.596 --> 00:43:39.076
Yeah, and let me just highlight in bright neon sign, a big differentiator between
00:43:39.076 --> 00:43:41.936
us and other venture firms is that we're not a venture firm.
00:43:42.476 --> 00:43:46.856
That's the sort of fundamental difference. What we are is an operating platform
00:43:46.856 --> 00:43:53.916
because we don't have a bucket of money that we invest in other people's companies and build a portfolio.
00:43:53.916 --> 00:43:57.796
We found fund operate
00:43:57.796 --> 00:44:00.816
and scale every company so it's the operational
00:44:00.816 --> 00:44:03.696
expertise that we bring to
00:44:03.696 --> 00:44:07.216
the table as we establish the company we're founders
00:44:07.216 --> 00:44:13.296
we're the serial entrepreneurs who also fund it and who also operate it and
00:44:13.296 --> 00:44:18.436
we scale each company so that's that's a pretty fundamental difference i think
00:44:18.436 --> 00:44:23.656
and then with respect to the second part of the question in in sort of you sometimes
00:44:23.656 --> 00:44:25.016
referred to as deep tech,
00:44:25.476 --> 00:44:30.596
sort of real physical things like chemicals, manufacturing versus software.
00:44:31.576 --> 00:44:35.656
For us, we find those things are actually better fits for our model.
00:44:36.737 --> 00:44:47.317
It is in the way that we execute, it's much harder to both evaluate the game-changing
00:44:47.317 --> 00:44:53.357
nature of something that's purely digital or software kind of solution a priori.
00:44:53.497 --> 00:44:57.217
So before you start, it's hard to necessarily define that.
00:44:57.517 --> 00:45:01.937
And we have found that it's even harder to make and maintain the competitive
00:45:01.937 --> 00:45:03.597
advantage that you need over time.
00:45:03.597 --> 00:45:08.137
Whereas for things like chemical industry or manufacturing,
00:45:08.537 --> 00:45:16.117
which we have multiple Nucos that do those things, we find that it's easier
00:45:16.117 --> 00:45:22.077
to pinpoint the elements that really drive value as you change the game.
00:45:22.077 --> 00:45:28.617
And so as we're building to those things that deliver unique benefits and have
00:45:28.617 --> 00:45:34.357
differentiated value creation for customers, we're able to really protect that whole path.
00:45:34.557 --> 00:45:39.237
And then ultimately, because we're also funding, these are real assets that
00:45:39.237 --> 00:45:45.197
you can use in your capital strategy in a way that you aren't always able to
00:45:45.197 --> 00:45:47.177
do in something like software.
00:45:47.177 --> 00:45:50.817
So there are a lot of interesting differences in those approaches,
00:45:50.817 --> 00:45:56.897
and we find more opportunities in those kind of areas than in software.
00:45:57.057 --> 00:46:00.377
Obviously, we've only started companies that are in those areas.
00:46:01.619 --> 00:46:04.499
All right. We've got two last questions here before we wrap.
00:46:04.819 --> 00:46:10.799
So the first one is, do you raise funds for each new co and have LPs for each investment?
00:46:11.999 --> 00:46:15.139
That's the first question. Then we'll go to the next. Yeah, sure.
00:46:15.499 --> 00:46:25.659
So no, again, we're not a venture firm that's structured around having a venture fund where we're the GP.
00:46:25.859 --> 00:46:30.759
We have LPs that invest into it, and then we deploy capital across a portfolio.
00:46:31.319 --> 00:46:36.259
We did actually earlier in our growth,
00:46:36.259 --> 00:46:42.259
we had a captive fund where we were the GP and we had LPs that invested across
00:46:42.259 --> 00:46:44.219
the companies that we had founded,
00:46:44.219 --> 00:46:49.619
but we have changed our capital structure as was mentioned in the second part
00:46:49.619 --> 00:46:53.639
of the question where InVenture itself recently went public.
00:46:53.879 --> 00:47:00.059
And so now we have a public funding platform and it's our intention by and large
00:47:00.059 --> 00:47:07.279
to fund each of our operating companies as far into their progression as makes the appropriate sense.
00:47:07.459 --> 00:47:12.779
And when it makes sense to raise outside capital, especially strategic capital
00:47:12.779 --> 00:47:17.139
at the right time for the right scaling reasons, for the right strategy,
00:47:17.439 --> 00:47:19.319
we'll entertain that if it's the right time.
00:47:19.499 --> 00:47:25.779
But one of the things that's interesting is that because we're not structured like a venture firm.
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:34.599
We're not driven to require an exit to drive liquidity for each of our companies.
00:47:34.879 --> 00:47:41.839
So for us, we're able to invest and hold each of the companies we start so that
00:47:41.839 --> 00:47:45.419
we are invested in the long-term success of each company.
00:47:45.619 --> 00:47:51.139
And we're able to figure out how to drive that growth over a much longer timeframe
00:47:51.139 --> 00:47:57.519
that can ultimately, in various ways, drive the investor returns back for Inventure and our investors.
00:47:58.802 --> 00:48:00.962
All right. Last question. You know, do you look internationally?
00:48:01.922 --> 00:48:03.142
Yeah, I could take this one.
00:48:03.482 --> 00:48:09.382
So we do look internationally just by nature of our partners being multinational corporations.
00:48:09.842 --> 00:48:13.402
There are all of our opportunities we take a global lens to.
00:48:14.222 --> 00:48:17.882
The majority of our core team is based here in the U.S., so there is always
00:48:17.882 --> 00:48:20.042
that lens, but we are global.
00:48:20.782 --> 00:48:24.342
And we do also do, I know the other part of the question here is related to
00:48:24.342 --> 00:48:28.482
doing research to really understand the value proposition ultimately in the
00:48:28.482 --> 00:48:31.742
U.S. and globally, and that is absolutely a part of our process.
00:48:32.042 --> 00:48:36.002
It can depend on, you know, the particular opportunity when we might trigger
00:48:36.002 --> 00:48:40.722
a level of research such as that in our process, but it's definitely a part of our process.
00:48:40.962 --> 00:48:44.582
You know, we get what I like to call like a treasure trove of deep research
00:48:44.582 --> 00:48:48.382
from our partners, but there's always a next level of detail to believe that
00:48:48.382 --> 00:48:52.802
we need to do as well to further validate the opportunity against our model
00:48:52.802 --> 00:48:54.662
and with our strategic initiatives in mind.
00:48:55.562 --> 00:49:01.702
And I'll just add a last point to that, that not only do we have multinationals
00:49:01.702 --> 00:49:03.662
who are based all over the globe,
00:49:03.662 --> 00:49:09.642
we look at opportunities that come from teams that are all over the place,
00:49:09.642 --> 00:49:14.922
and every one of the companies that we start is intended to be global.
00:49:15.302 --> 00:49:21.982
So we certainly do not restrict ourselves to a market unnecessarily constraining ourselves.
00:49:22.202 --> 00:49:26.082
We're looking for the global opportunity.
00:49:26.982 --> 00:49:34.122
All right. So let's go ahead and wrap there. So huge thank you to Colin, Ellie, and Nicole.
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Really appreciate you taking the time to share with us today.
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And thanks to everyone who joined the webinar.
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And yeah, you'll be receiving the recording shortly. Thanks,
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everyone. Have a great afternoon.
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Thanks. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.