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Here. It is another episode of
the Infinite Advantage podcast What Is Going On?
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My name is Mark Jolo, also
known as DJ sound Wave and as
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Luke Temple once called me DJ Boombox. Thanks for checking out the show.
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Big up to my last guests,
g Mills and Raw Leaf. Their new
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album Mask Covered Faces is out right
now, and definitely go check out that
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episode. Will play flashback later on, but definitely had a good time talking
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with those guys and being reintroduced to
the cartoon Mask, which I have not
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watched in like thirty son than years, so they're pretty cool. It's on
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Pluto and TB TV if anybody out
there wants to watch it. Big salute
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to those guys today's show. I'm
really hyped for this song. So another
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dual guest show. Everybody listening knows
I'm a huge fan of The Walking Dead.
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I mean I've been watching that show
since it started, big fan of
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it. Even as it's you know, winded down, you know, it's
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still there. I'm still watching it
all the time. I'm watching the spinoffs
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everything else. So I'm definitely a
big fan of the show. And I
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was really hyped to get Carrie kay
Hill and Theotis Crane on the show today.
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Carrie Kayhill plays Diane. You've seen
her in season seven through eleven.
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She's the bow and arrow wielder from
the Kingdom. And Theiotis Crane you might
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remember from the Prison Gang in season
three. He's one of the guys living
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in the prison when Rick and the
Gang show up. And it's really cool
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talking to both of them, and
we'll get into that in a little bit,
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So stay tuned for my interviews with
Thiotis Crane and Carrie Kayhill talking about
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the Walking Dead and much much more. A lot of fun talking to both
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to him was a real big thrill. This is episode one forty nine.
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By the way, I'm almost at
one hundred and fifty of these damn things.
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I can't believe how fast this is
coming. Wow, this is crazy.
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So thanks everybody's been part of this
thing, and you know, to
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celebrate, I've got an Infinite Torture
segment in this episode. I watched the
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movie Split Seconds, and I'm gonna
talk about it after the interviews. Will
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stay tuned for the back half of
the show to the Infinite Torture segment about
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the movie Split Second with Rutger Howerd
and Kim Cattrelle. Is it torture or
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did I actually like it? Stay
tuned, but this is the Infinite Banter
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Podcast. Before we go forward and
talk to Kerry k Hill and Theoda's Crane,
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we always go back to the last
episode and as I mentioned before,
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we had raw Leaf and Gmails will
talk about their new album, Mass Covered
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Faces. And here's a clip from
that episode with Gmails and raw Leaf Infinite
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Banter Podcast flashbacks, And we basically
just came up with the concept because they're
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like, it was like, well, we was crafting the album kind of
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was like an admist of the Paradimmon. You know, every bodyline way and
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Man and shit like that. So
we just was like, yo, it'd
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be dopeful. We call it mask
Cover of Faces. But everybody man mass
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happy at that time, so it
gives perfect together a pression. Yeah,
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previous after afternoon before that was right, so we had to personal show to
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it exactly. It just was like
more fitting for the times. Basically,
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definitely go back and check out that
episode with g Mills and raw Leaf had
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a lot of fun talking about their
album, Mass Covered Faces. You can
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find at all streaming platforms definitely check
them out. And it's pretty cool that
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I'm at another one of these milestones
coming up here, one hundred and fifty.
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The next episode, we'll see what
I do for that one. Maybe
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I'll do something different, or I'll
just keep going and chugging along. They
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gets a regular episode and the number
is just a number, like Aliah,
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It's It's it's episode another but a
number. I don't know what the hell
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that means. All right, So
this is the Infinite Banter podcast. You
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have some questions on the Spotify app
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question that's kind of related to the
episode, like, for instance, the
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one I just did with g Mills
and raw Leaf. What's your favorite eighties
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cartoon? Is it mask? Is
it he Man? Is it Transformers?
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Go ahead and vote. Go on
Spotify. You could do that. See
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what wins I voted for Transformers.
I gotta vote for my own stuff.
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So that's my favorite cartoon. But
let's see what other people pick. So
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definitely go on there and do that. Interact with the show as much as
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you can. All Right, let's
get into it. Kerrie k Hill and
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Theoda's Craning from The Walking Dead are
here to talk about their careers and how
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they got started in acting and much
much more. They got a short film
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coming out, and we've also got
an infinite torture segment coming up for the
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movie Split Seconds. But before we
do any of that, the show never
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begins. To the one and only
the Devastating Might Controller DMC comes on.
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He says this, and the show
begins. Yo, yo, what's up?
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This is me m C to K, I and G the greatest MC
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and history read. And right now
you're listening to Infinite Bitter because we will
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banter on forever, because this is
the only place for all of y'all to
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ever be. I be infinite bit. You're tuned into the Infinite Banter Podcast.
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I am Mark Chellafe and I'm really
excited to be joined by two guests.
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You've seen them both on The Walking
Dead. Theotis Crane, who played
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Big Tiny in season three and movies
like Underground and The Bagman and Carrie Kane
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Hill, who played Diane from season
seven through eleven, and in movies like
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Free State of Jones and Terminator Genesis. Welcome to the show, theotis Crane
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and Carrie k Hill. What's up? Guys? Hi, I am hysterically
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peeling potatoes while we talk. That's
the best thing to be doing. That's
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the first. How about you the
are you doing something with food in the
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background too? Or oh no,
I'm I'm actually driving. Okay, yeah
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you can't that. You can't do
feeling potatoes and driving is definitely not recommended.
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Yeah, before or washing potatoes,
I'd even harder to do, no
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doubt. Well, things are coming
on the show, guys, big Walking
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Dead fan, And just to let
people know about you know, where you
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guys started? You know, what
was both of your origin story in doing
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acting and care if you want to
take that first Ooh okay, Uh so
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I moved a lot growing up.
Um so I'm not really from anywhere.
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So for me, I think acting
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anyway, Like my dad would joke
that like when I was too Like you
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know how some kids can be shy, and some people are like walking in
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the middle of a dance floor.
I was the kid that was like walking
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into the middle of the dance floor. But the story I actually always tell
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as there was this moment where my
mom got and I was in very small
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towns in the West. So if
you can imagine a town of two hundred
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people, that is the town I
lived in for four years during elementary school.
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So like the Kingdom kind of,
yeah, basically yeah, basically,
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only not as well adjusted. The
town was not well adjusted there you go,
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It's eastern Oregon and it's a little
nutty out there. But so I
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was on the karaoke machine and I
was like seven, and it was for
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like some fundraiser my mom was going
to do for the school or something,
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and I was like making voices and
doing this stuff and I always loved doing
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accents, and I my whole family
laughed, and I have a very very
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vivid memory of me going, oh
oh, I like this. I think
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I was like ooh, Like they
were all looking at me, and I
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was like making them laugh, and
I was like the microphone was in my
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hand and I was like, I
can do this. So then I just
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did theater every single place we moved. And then it's the thing. Now
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I tell people, I go,
it's not a choice. I really don't
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know what else I would do,
Like, I have no idea. You
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knew it taught you right away,
Yet that feeling. Yeah, it could
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have went the other way, right, you could have gotten the bad reaction
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and it would have scared off.
But no, that was not It's right.
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They could have been like, you're
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like, I'm never doing this again. That is not what happening. And
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then like yeah, and then you
know from theater in college and you know
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film in New Orleans and my professors
helped me get an agent and all that
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stuff happened. Oh that's awesome.
Yeah, And how about you, Theodis
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that anything happened with you? Going
back? What was your origin story with
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the acting and getting into the business. Well, I got the a little
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late. I've always been a performer, but my perform anything was always regal
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arts. I thought I was going
to be an animator and uh, like
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I was always church playing. I
grew up playing instruments, all that kind
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of stuff. But it was until
my mid twenties I started doing regional theater,
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and I got into that because I
was supposed to play the cello in
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the orchestra. But when I went
to meet the guy producing it, he
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asked quin and a little bit,
you know, and so like it was
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a producer of Jesus Christ Superstar.
And we did that for two years,
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and uh, then one day he
called me, hey, like, hey,
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there's a production of Hair that I
think you should auditional. And the
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the play pay for week exactly as
much as I was away making at that
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time, which meant no matter what
I chose, I was still gonna lose
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my apartment. So I decided to
go in audition, and it was a
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musical theater audition, so I had
to have a song. I stayed chocolate
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Salty Balls, so soft part and
uh and yeah and and once we finished
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that run and it was a really
really good run, you know, it
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was like it was one of those
those situations where it's like the ideal first
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time in a profession kind of kind
of situation, like Okay, how do
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I do this again? How do
I have this feeling? And so I
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just kind of chased it. For
the next two years. I was doing
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whatever I could, so I haunted
houses all kinds whatever, you know what
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I mean? And uh, and
then I moved in New Orleans and I
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got into the Friend Fast Year and
that was the first time anybody casting me
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as a lead in anything. And
then I found out about the film and
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TV in New Orleans and I just
kind of we go my way in and
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then you know, same thing,
Get an agent, get a little bit
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more going on, get a manager, bumped your way up, and next
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thing I know, I'm hearing you
and Karrie. I can't even hear that
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song from South Park the same again, thinking that you've done that. Did
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you do it like a like a
funny voice, or just try to belt
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it out like yours? I think
it's interly. I sang it. It's
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my karaoke song, you know what
I mean. It was like my first
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karaoke off. I've noticing a trend
here. Karaoke is the theme for both
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of you guys. That's where it
starts. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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I think everybody's that's into performing like
karaoke. That's my kids probably. I
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have a one of my neighbors,
her son is about four, and on
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Sunday mornings, him and his dad
do like karaoke time together, but but
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he raps, and so you hear
this little four year old being like yeah,
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oh yeah, is the best way
to wake up ever. It's the
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cutest thing. And I'm always like, oh god, we have a future
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start nextor like I can just tell
you right now, Like he's like yeah,
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I'm like, oh, it's adorable. That's why I never got ato
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karaoke because I like hip hop music
and it's not really something you can do
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that for you know. It's like
they don't have redom C or El COOLJ
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on the karaoke so I'm just not
gonna participate. That's how I always was.
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Well, it's also not as I
think it used to be like this,
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where not everybody could There weren't enough
people who could even do those songs
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correct, Like rapping is hard,
right, oh yes, And now there
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are more people who are able to
like karaoke that in quote unquote right right,
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yeah, some people definitely yeah,
right right, that's awesome. So
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karaoke kind of is in the backdrop
for both of you guys as far as
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getting into acting and catching the bag
and and for both of you, then
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how did you both get into Walking
Dead. What was the connection from where
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you guys started to how you ended
up in the Walking Dead series. I'll
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let Fee you go first, because
he was on the show first. Uh
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well, I M I suspect they
already knew what they were looking for,
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and so I don't think the pool
was as deep because like my characters kind
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of a specialty character, you know
what I mean, Like there's certain dimensions
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you can't get around, and so
I kind of I kind of feel like
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it was just like getting what out
of myself and my co Starns that were
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in those episodes with um and so
I got an audition, ain't up practice
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and reporters in it, and and
I think it took maybe two weeks to
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find out I got it, no
call back, none of that, you
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know what I mean, which is
very uncommon, especially I don't know how
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all of the processes for other people, So I can't say if standard practice,
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but like it doesn't happen very very
often. Yeah, yeah, that
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makes sense because your character's name is
big Tiny, so obviously, like you
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said, they were looking for a
specific look. You know, obviously a
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size, right, you know,
a little kind of thing, so you
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kind of fit that maybe that's why
it wasn't a traditional like callback like you
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said, and the way you got
informed about it. Yeah, like I've
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been in la in a room with
pretty much all the guys type it's about
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thirty of it look like a battle
royal is something? Probably I said it
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kind of felt that way in that
moment. That's funny and you carry So
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basically, this was like the eighth
or ninth time I had auditioned for The
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Walking Dead, And if you're an
actor, you know this is this is
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common, right, Like I have
auditioned for some shows like fifteen times,
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and so this was one of those
auditions where and of course it's fake sides,
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so you have to kind of guess
and figure out what part of the
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show and all this. But of
course the Kingdom wasn't on the show yet,
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so I couldn't figure it. So
basically I just did the best I
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could in terms of like making choices
and like making decisions that were all,
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you know, based on the three
pages, right. But I auditioned for
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Gavin, which they were considering pop
possibly a female role, and basically what
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I found out later and I don't
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would probably have to get direct from
Scott Ginvel, but he kind of kept
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a stock of headshots and stuff and
people like on his like little desk somewhere
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that was like, oh, people, I have seen an auditions and I
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liked. So when I got the
offer, the only thing I knew is
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I didn't get Gavin, but I
got a role. And so it wasn't
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until I was traveling. So mine
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two weeks, There was no callback. It was like two or three days
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and they called and they were like, hey, so can you travel Monday?
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like what? I was like,
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what is happening? And then I'm
talking to like the travel coordinator in the
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office and I said, can I
ask you a question? And she goes
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yeah. I was like, what
is my character's name? Because I didn't
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like they hadn't told me yet,
because they hadn't released the script. There
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were things because in fairness, like
you have to sign a lot of things
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to make sure there's a nondisclosure and
all these things right, and they try
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to keep it very secret because a
lot of people reveal spoilers, and so
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I was like and she's like,
oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
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I'm like That's when I was like, oh, Diane great. And then
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I went to Researcher and of course
she doesn't exist in the comics. She's
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what they call a composite character,
right, So like it was just shy
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cirical because everything kept happening and it
was all new. Like I got to
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set and they're like, oh,
you're you get a bow and I was
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like, I get a bow?
What I get it? Okay, sure,
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yeah, I'll shoot that right now. And luckily I had done some
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archery before, but now I'm really
into it. But it was like,
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you know, it's always just like
a mad rush. You know, that's
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interesting. So yeah, I was
going to ask me if if Archer was
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even brought up at all, like
if it was just something oh, by
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the way you get here and like, oh, yeah, learn how to
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do this. They did not ask
me anything. It was that happens a
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lot though. I was in Logan
and I am the State Trooper and the
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deleted scene they released where he gets
pulled over, well, that car is
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like it's an amazing car. It's
like a Dodge charger. It's ramped up
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it's got like a B eight.
It's a stick shift. Wow. No
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one ever asked me if I could
drive one. Oh man. And I
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like, as we're walking towards the
car the day before I start filming,
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the prop guy like the guy in
charge of the car won't look me in
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the eye and he's like, we
just want to we just want you to
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practice in this, and I was
like, what's going on? And then
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I finally go oh as I see
the car because it's just big police Dodge
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shargar, and I was like,
I can drive a stick shift. And
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he goes, oh, thank god, because we didn't know they were going
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to give us a stick shift and
we thought they were giving us a transmits
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and this. And then I got
in and he's like, thank you.
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So my tip to actors is learn
how to drive stick shift. Oh my
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god, I have no idea.
Yeah, well, yea passport and learn
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how to drive a stick check.
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out. You wouldn't even know what
was happening. Oh no, they would
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have like it would have been harder
to shoot because like they would have had
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to have a stunt driver and I
would have had to like get in the
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car and had to pause and like
it would have been a whole thing.
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Yeah, that's pretty cool. It
sounds like, you know, for both
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of you, it's a matter of
like adapting. Sometimes on the spot it's
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like you've gotten apart and it's like
they're kind of throwing some things at you
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that maybe you weren't prepared for.
But it's all about well improvising and getting
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ready to do it and figuring it
out. And it sounds like you both
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have done well with that. Yeah, that was actually a So my whole
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time on Underground was a lot like
that. Um, I went into that
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situation with very little information. It
was I think I was I think I
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was a recash. I never actually
thought to ask, but like in this
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moment, I think I was a
recash. So everything happened really quick.
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Um, that show was about sprinting. Like I lost so much weight on
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that show. It's amazing. I'm
guessing right, So, oh my god,
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it was amazing. Um And so
like now I couldn't do it because
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I can't run anymore. But like
going in there was a few things.
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It was like, um, my
character had to shot wood. I've remever
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shot wood in my life. You
know what I mean. Right, Still,
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there's there are a few things that
I had to kind of learn on
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the spot, and so that that
lets me know kind of what character what
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Carrison before, Like let's start building
up skills just like just learn stuff like
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precy things that you want to do, like oh, I want to be
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either the archery person to get into
the archery thus in. Yeah. Yeah,
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well now you've got a lumberjack in
an archer here. See you know
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before years Mack, he couldn't have
said that. So there you go ar
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a couple of archers. I could
I want to I want to play an
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archer on chase me. Yeah.
Right, you need another green arrow or
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you know, a hawkeye or something, right, so here we go.
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That's a giant arrow or something,
but giant big bow. Oh yeah,
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there you go. And you know
carry you had brought up Gavin so on
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my show before. I've had Jason
Warner Smith and Joshua Michael who you worked
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with during season seven and season eight
and then THEO. I've had m Lou
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Temple and Vincent and Ward on here
before. So perfect for both of you
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guys, because they were awesome.
I couldn't be more you know, honored
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to have all four of them on
here. And I'll ask you Carrie first,
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about working with Jason and Joshua.
I mean, Joshua's character was so
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unlikable, but he was He's an
awesome guy, but you really hated him
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as a fan. And then Jason
Warners, who I told him he felt
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like a guy who was just kind
of like he hated his job, but
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he had the show up every day
and just do it. And uh,
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what was it like working with those
two? And of course you thought maybe
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Gavin would have been somebody you would
have played U. Well, what I
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always love about like actors like Joshua
and Jason. I was like, wait,
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they're both Jays, They're not both
josh Is. They're they're like veteran
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actors. And when I say that, what I mean is like they've been
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on multiple sets, they've done a
lot, and they show up already.
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And so those first two years for
me and Walking Dead were always so fun
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because like, you can have more
fun when everybody's prepared, you know,
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and so like and of course you
gotta work with like it's gotta be nice
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people because it's hot, that ashphalt
is hot. Those parking lot scenes.
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I mean, we were sweating buckets, you know, and that the favorite
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part of it really is though that
Jason and Josh are just really funny and
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really nice. And Josh particularly is
like I don't think he would even like
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I don't think he would ever hit
anyone in his real life, like ever,
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Like I'm sure if someone in his
family was getting hurt or something,
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but like he is just the most
kind, calm and he plays that guy
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so well. That's the best part
of actually working with actors. Sometimes it's
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just like the dichotomy of all that
and like when you break and you get
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to go and like hang out and
you know. And it was really lovely
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too because the only I didn't meet
Andy for two years because because I wasn't
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the show, I didn't I didn't
meet any of the main people I was
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hanging out with, like Melissa,
Lenny the Kingdom and Josh and Jason,
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and we were having a blast,
you know, and it was it was
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like really interesting to like when I
finally got on set with everybody, I
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was like, oh God, this
is actually kind of really intimidating because I
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don't really so I got quieter because
I was like, uh, now I
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feel socially awkward and I like went
back to middle school. Yeah, I've
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been here for two years, but
I feel like I'm the new kid now
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exactly because I was like, who
what h I don't know all these people
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anymore. Yeah, they'll talk about
working with lou and m Vincent and Ward.
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I mean those guys were a trip
when I had him on and part
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of that that prison gang. You
know, you guys had a little click
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there you first introduced on the show. So on the show they were so
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it was kind of a thing they
were. They were the vig you know,
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they had done a bunch of stuff
that you know, been on a
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bout less. They were coming from
LA and there's always uh well they were.
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Especially back then there was kind of
this thing about with the Whorlands actors
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people from LA coming and like,
oh man, like what's it like there
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where you got? You know?
So because I was still pretty new it
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to it, uh at that point. Um, But really it wasn't until
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afterwards and we started doing conventions and
I really got to like hang out with
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them and like uh spend time and
and like really get to know them and
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like to be in situations with them, and I really got to appreciate their
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friendship, UM and like the information
they had to share, you know,
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just being in the life situations as
they were. It's been really great knowing
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them and and everything everybody in Marquees
and and UM and Nick. You know,
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we really have this kind of bonded
over this experience. We didn't have
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as much time as UH as Curry
did, but like, UH, we
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we got that experience after to kind
of give us the bonding time. And
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so UH even now, you know, I came, I went to LA
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for a premiere and you know,
went and hung out with UH, with
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Vincent and went to the to the
the stunt track while the stunt guys practice
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and stuff and like hut and you
know got to like and that's that's really
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great to have UH in this industry, like people that are your actual friends
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and and like people that you can
you can call for something other than work,
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you know what I mean. And
I bet for both of you alcome
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dead. It's such a vast not
just not just the actress, but the
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crew and people behind the scenes that
it's been out so long, it's hard
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for everybody not to know somebody on
the show. Ye some worked somewhere.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, for
sure. I still um, Like I
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haven't seen him in quite some time, but like every time I saw Gregna
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Cantaro he remembered me. That shot
the shit out of me because like we
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spent some time together, but not
a ton. But Greg is that guy,
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like that's he's just I love him, love him. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, I think it's perfect that
he's that guy. There you go.
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And speaking of Greg, so you
know, obviously THEO your character didn't
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get to turn. He unfortunately died
in a gruesome that's a brutal scene by
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the way, and you never got
to do the zombie makeup and carry your
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character is still going. So you
never got to do the zombie makeup,
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do either one of you kind of
wish you had that moment obviously, care
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you don't want to die on the
show. But yeah, I wish I
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was a zombie hundred Oh my god, Like they had the stuff to make
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the bast in and that was a
whole half of my body. Oh my
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god. Yeah, I just want
to see it, you know what I
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mean, Like that's an image.
Yeah. I came up with my last
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line if I ever died right before
I would turn And I told Greg and
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Denise, one of our producers,
and I said, note, this has
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to be and I won't tell you
because I really I do maybe they'll bring
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me back. But I did always
think I was going to die because I'm
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I'm not a series regular and I'm
but I'm on enough that people know me.
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So I'm one of those characters that
if you're in a writer's room,
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I a mid season death. I'm
just I've known enough by the audience that
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it would matter, and so I
just kind of assumed that. I was
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like, Wow, I mean I
might do this for like three or four
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years, but I mean eventually I
will be in mid season death. Like
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I just assume, you know,
And it just never happened. And I
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just kept going. I think like
like I could, like I would go
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onto it and look at like the
producers and the like next episode, huh,
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it's gonna happen, and They're like, Carrie, we we don't know.
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And I was like, you don't
know, and it just never happened.
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I was like really like and I
was always surprised. I really still
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to this day. I'm like,
how like when I got called to film
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the last episodes. I literally was
like, oh, yeah, they're gonna
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kill me. They need to kill
some people, like it'll be fine.
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And I was excited actually because I
was like, look it to the end.
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I'll be happy whatever. I've been
on this long and I and they
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don't, you know, particularly with
the way the comic book characters work,
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there's no real place for Diane to
kind of go unless they totally do a
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whole offshoot like with Norman. Right, But like I was like, it's
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okay. And then of course I
lived and I was like how alive?
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Like I just yeah, but I'm
also like confused. I want to tell
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you that stress is real, that
that when I know it's coming, you're
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gonna kill me, final whatever.
Because I had the opposite spirit. I
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died first, and it was like
the stage of the grief, you know,
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like there is so much denial,
like no, no, no,
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no, no no no no,
because like I think read the script as
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fast as everyone else. I think
I was doing. I forget what else
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I was doing, but uh my
trailer and was like, oh man,
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00:26:55.640 --> 00:27:00.599
I'm really sorry. We are you
sorry for? What are you talking about?
408
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.680
But I remember hearing other people talk
about it's like, I know it's
409
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:10.599
coming. I know it's coming at
some point. It's just gonna like it's
410
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.559
it's it's it's inevitable. It's gonna
kill them. They kill everybody because they
411
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:18.039
kill everybody. Yeah, oh that's
so brutal. But we don't want carry
412
00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:19.400
you don't want your character to ever
die. But now I really want to
413
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:23.000
hear this line, So I'm I
know, well, I know that silly,
414
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:26.920
it's silly and small, but I
really want to. Yeah, I
415
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.319
have it. It's in my head. I will pitch it the day I
416
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:30.640
die, if I die, or
if they bring me back. You know,
417
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.000
they've got all these different spins where
they're relocating, so there's no reason,
418
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.279
there's no necessarily belief that Dianne would
follow anybody either, you know who
419
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:41.559
knows? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you brought up the spins,
420
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.000
and I was gonna bring that up
as an idea too, because I've always
421
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.720
wanted, like Theodis, I always
wanted to a prison like origin story,
422
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.559
like the day that shit went down
in the prison. I would love to
423
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:55.640
see like at least a one episode
of the Before enduring you guys going into
424
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:59.000
the pantry or whatever. Has that
ever been talked about? I would love
425
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:00.319
to see that. And then of
course a Diane origin story, you know,
426
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.880
her picking up a boat for the
first time or whatever. I would
427
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.799
love to see stories like that.
Yeah, we talked about it when they
428
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.240
were doing the one shot, um, like the like the group was like
429
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.519
whenever something happens, like one of
those guys action figures and so like I
430
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:22.039
think a group chat or something before
it was popular. But uh, but
431
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:23.160
when they were doing one side,
so it was like, yeah, that
432
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.359
would be really go because somebody asked
the questions similar to that. Um,
433
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:32.640
I would I would love to like
this because it's such a vivid story to
434
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:37.039
go in the show of like how
it went down. Um, I would
435
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:38.599
just love to see it myself.
I mean, it's similar to Rick because
436
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.200
Rick didn't know what's going on to
he woke up and you guys are inside
437
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.079
of a prison, no idea what's
happening in the outside world. And then
438
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.319
when Rick and the gang show up, you guys are like, yeah,
439
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:48.640
can I call my my mom or
whatever? It's like, no, you
440
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:53.640
don't understand. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, yeah, it'd have been
441
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.000
a cool It would be cool idea. I hope they'd somehow do that,
442
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.880
and like I said, for a
Diane's character, that'd be pretty cool to
443
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:04.359
see you. I have a backstory
written actually like a full filmable thing,
444
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.759
and I said, like, yeah, I've shared it with Cooper who plays
445
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:14.200
Jerry Um and Okay, who is
also on the I've shared it with them.
446
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.599
But it's really I'm known for being
very very very dark, like like
447
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.559
I will go like I don't go
to the gut or I go to like
448
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.480
the abyss of like hell. And
I'm like, let's talk about that,
449
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.519
and everyone's like, Carrie, that's
really can we uh? And I'm like
450
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.000
no, let's just let's come on, let's bring this out in video.
451
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:40.920
And Theo's laughing because he knows because
because I do this. Yeah, But
452
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.759
like so I wrote this like really, and I hope someday it gets seen
453
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.319
somewhere as some idea but we'll see. But like, yeah, yeah,
454
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.759
because there's what I always did is
I figured the thing as an actor that
455
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:53.960
I had to come up with the
job for was Diane's really capable? So
456
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.000
why doesn't she lead? And she
doesn't really say much, which I actually
457
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.279
I will say, like I I
think there can be mixed, like,
458
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.960
there are times where I wish they
could have written more for her, but
459
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.799
I do. I do like that
they don't make her sentimental and they don't
460
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.480
make her like a monologist and something
like not everybody does that. You know,
461
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.559
it's not reasonable to expect everybody in
the Apocalypse to be like Rick,
462
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.960
That's not what everyone's gonna do,
you know everybody? So yeah, right,
463
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.519
exactly, you know, and so
but I basically had to write a
464
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.599
story that was dark enough that was
like, oh, that's why she doesn't
465
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.839
want to talk to anybody. That's
like, yeah, yeah, I mean
466
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.599
and for a long time. Daryl's
that character didn't talk much either for the
467
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.640
first few seasons, so and he
was kind of looked at as like one
468
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.079
of the strongest characters on the on
the show. So yeah, it doesn't
469
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:42.839
the loudest person isn't always the one
I want to watch, you know who
470
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.559
get Nikan for instance, there there's
a love hate with him, of course,
471
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.880
so right, right, yeah,
go to that dark place because it
472
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:53.039
is a walking dead. So yeah, I was talking to Dan Ogel once
473
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.680
and this was right before they filmed
his h and his last scene in the
474
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.240
finale. I don't want to spoil
it if someone hasn't wanted to yet.
475
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.480
But I basically like was I gave
him like a paragraph of like just like
476
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:08.519
dark things to think about, and
she's face changed and Cary paid when Cary
477
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.240
was like, what did she say
to you? What did she do?
478
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:12.359
Dan? What did she do?
And I was like no, I was
479
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.640
just talking about that because I just
like, we'll do that. I'll be
480
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.559
like and it's like, yeah,
it's terrible, it's not good for radio,
481
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.880
So I'm not gonna it's okay.
What was on that karaoke playlist?
482
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:23.920
At your pick? What's songs?
Right? I'm trying to think of what.
483
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:29.640
Well the thing is like, I
just I had a really quirky dad
484
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.079
and so like I watched Doctor Chicago
and I was like eight, oh wow,
485
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:34.720
And I watched things like that where
like I would be like what happened
486
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.960
and he'd be like, well,
they're burying the baby off of the train
487
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.240
because it died. And I was
like, okay, dad, thank you.
488
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:41.680
And I just got and he was
in the army and he was a
489
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.599
medic and he was a ka and
I got stitches at home. So there
490
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.000
was just like there was not sheltered
at all. So yeah, I was
491
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.160
just back hid and so I've grown
up to be this person now. Yeah,
492
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.359
no, it makes sense. I
have a three year old daughter and
493
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.720
she knows Jason voorheeses and that's my
fault. But she's not scared of him.
494
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.920
And that's a problem. Right,
I'm doing a bad is it.
495
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.799
I mean, we're trying to build
build a resilient youth, you know.
496
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.119
I'm like, you know, and
it's about what the kid is, right,
497
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:14.799
if the kid's really scared and worried, the check but like, yeah,
498
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:16.599
your kid's fine. Yah. Yeah, she thinks it's like a bald
499
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.079
baby with you know, with the
because we want what it's like a around
500
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:22.519
Halloween is like a walking one and
he moves around, he does. He
501
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:28.799
does look like a baby with a
mask. So no idea. Yeah,
502
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:30.279
I'm in trouble. Yeah, she
gets older, like dad, you you
503
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.079
told me about this, Like oh
all right, yeah that's on me.
504
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.960
Yeah, I want to watch Walking
Dead now are you ready? Yeah?
505
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.240
That's awesome. Yeah. With the
oldis you actually worked at Andrew Lincoln and
506
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.079
normal read is right off the bat, unlike Carrie, who took some time
507
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.000
to get to meet some characters.
Talk about that experience working with those two.
508
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.720
I'll tell you about the most embarrassing
thing I did. Um. Anyway,
509
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:57.559
we're about the film one of the
scenes in the hallways corridor or whatever,
510
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.799
and so we're kind of crowded down
behind this little false ball and I
511
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:05.839
don't know what struck me. Again, this was pretty early into my career.
512
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.039
So I just stopped and asked him, like, like Andy, like,
513
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:15.640
hey, man, where are you
from? He answered me, but
514
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:22.839
he answered me, and he never
spoke outside, and I thought he was
515
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.640
fucking with me. You know.
It was like, if you want to
516
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:34.559
tell me, not to tell me. Oh my god. Like a year
517
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.759
or two later, heard his actual
speaking voice in an interview like, oh
518
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:47.039
my Godney. But they were the
nicest people man like um Like, So
519
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.960
there are a munch of people I
didn't get to work with as well,
520
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.640
and and so I was like,
uh, we were coming to lunch and
521
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:59.599
they were all at a table and
normally serious regulars sit with series of regulars
522
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.720
and the like hierarchies and camera people, and all the five of us walk
523
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.160
in and they're like, oh,
hey, come over, come over,
524
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.360
Hey see with us, see with
us. Never happened, Let's never happened.
525
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:14.079
It's high school. It's like straight
up clicked up. You find the
526
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.039
table, you make some friends,
you know what I mean. I know
527
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.920
there's this great rare that somebody was
like, hey, you know, let's
528
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:25.039
let's get to each other. And
that who'll always stand out to me that
529
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.559
was because that's the nicest thing you
can do. And also, like you
530
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.039
forget, they're filming in the middle
of like heat and they're there. Most
531
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:40.840
of their co star are extras.
Can so do friends are exciting to them
532
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:46.760
to um? But yeah, they
were the nicest people, sharing all their
533
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:52.280
the wealth of their knowledge. And
uh, I got to work with herson
534
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.199
before he passed, and he was
straight up gangster man. So like it
535
00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.599
was, it was a great experience. Uh from my professional as well,
536
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.400
I'll say, like I learned so
much more about what it is to be
537
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:06.199
an actor. I'm working on that
show and care. Do you have any
538
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.079
takeaways from the show as a whole. Obviously you're still a cast member,
539
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.320
nothing's changed with that, but as
you look back on and think about,
540
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:17.519
because it's the series as a whole
is quote unquote finished. The flagship show
541
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:21.079
is right, right, how do
you how do you look back on your
542
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.719
time at The Walking Dead. Um, I I look at it very similar
543
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.679
to theo of like it was.
It was a bit of a greenhouse for
544
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:30.719
me. It's what I would call
it um in terms of having a long
545
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.400
term relationship with the crew, which
I know I always talk about the crew,
546
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.079
and so I think it weirds people
out because they want to know what
547
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.800
actor I liked working with. But
the truth is the people I work the
548
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:44.320
most with are the crew, Like
I know, you know, they're the
549
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:45.599
ones that like I got to look
at the camera guy and make sure I'm
550
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.599
where I'm supposed to be and all
these things right. But I learned a
551
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:54.239
lot about like a stunt's action,
um long term, you know, storytelling.
552
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:58.199
All those things are things you get
off of being on a show like
553
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:02.079
that long term. And of course
also like Lenny James was who introduced me
554
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.639
to like the show when we were
on set, like and he is and
555
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.199
I will hang out with him every
day every day. He is an incredible
556
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:14.159
human being and was so kind and
Greg Nikotara was open to He's like ask
557
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.119
questions and so it was a very
great place to be like, hey,
558
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:21.679
do I need to slow this stab
down. Like I know that sounds silly,
559
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:23.639
but like you have to learn how
to do stunts to where they look
560
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.920
good on camera. You don't punch
someone on camera the way you punch someone
561
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.920
in real life. Like you just
don't do that. It doesn't work,
562
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.480
you know, This is what I
mean. Like I would say things like
563
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.119
well if you were really stabbing someone, and everyone's like carry and I was
564
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:42.400
like, okay, I'm gonna because
I don't. I'm never no, like
565
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.960
I'm a nice person most now I'm
kind and that nice, but like,
566
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.679
uh so, yeah, so it
was but that's for me. It was
567
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.519
very much that and and I got
a lot out of that and I learned
568
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:58.159
a lot, you know. And
I really didn't think anybody like I think
569
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.679
I have two lines the first season
and seven and I really I was like,
570
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.920
ah, no one's going to really
know who she is and no one's
571
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.159
good at this. And like after
the first two or three episodes, I
572
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:08.960
was an aired. My Instagram following
kept getting higher, and I was like,
573
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.079
what are people see? I was
like, what's going on? And
574
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:17.000
then I was like, oh okay, And so that's an interesting thing too
575
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:21.920
from just a career standpoint of being
somebody that, like is I get recognized
576
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:23.760
now, which is weird for me, Like I always think they're looking at
577
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.559
someone else. In the Bow and
Arrow help of course, you know,
578
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.239
yeah, it's stand out, you
know weapon on the show. You know,
579
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.320
Darrel's got the crossbow, Rick's got
the cult gone right, So everybody's
580
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.440
got most of the main characters and
some of the side ones have that one
581
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:39.559
one thing that kind of makes them
standout in the Bow and Arrow. There
582
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:44.400
you go, It'll always be yeah, your signature. Yeah. And so
583
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.119
it was great. Yeah, and
I mean there's still like, you know,
584
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:50.599
it was exhausting, it was long. I got like I got a
585
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.599
tick walking through Alexandria one. I
mean, it's not always fun to do
586
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.800
the job, but it's always fun
to have done it, if that makes
587
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.519
sense, right. Yeah, it
looked hots just watching it for both of
588
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:05.960
you. I'm sure you guys dealt
with some real hot days down there in
589
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.440
Georgia. Yeah. Well, and
thankfully I don't know about THEO, but
590
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.360
I've lived in New Orleans since two
thousands, so I was really used to
591
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.599
that because it is hard to get
used to if you're not from that climate,
592
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:17.199
you know, Oh. Yeah,
I'm from Atlanta, so that was
593
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:23.239
it was trying. Yeah, I'm
in Chicago and it's eighty degrees here and
594
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.519
I'm like, what the hell is
happening? It is two day. I'm
595
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:31.840
hots man, it's just not for
us. We don't get spring because I
596
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:35.599
saw it's gonna snow on Monday.
So it's like I'm wearing shorts and I
597
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.440
don't got to find my hat and
gloves. Again, this is ridiculous.
598
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.079
Oh it's yeah, it's nuts.
You guys will come up here before you
599
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.559
guys talk about conventions and stuff.
Have you been to like Walker Stalker or
600
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.760
Chicago conventions or any other ones?
No, never made it Chicago for that.
601
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.039
I've only been to visits family and
it was only in the summertime,
602
00:38:52.280 --> 00:39:00.079
so gotcha. And that was on
purpose. I lived on the South Side
603
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.440
for a year and uh yeah,
in two thousand and eight and nine,
604
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:06.559
I lived on the South Now in
a way, Diana is tough. That's
605
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.480
that's where you got that from.
Yeah, yeah, well I also lived
606
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:13.719
in a Sicilian neighborhood, which apparently
you still get crapped for being Irish there,
607
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.280
which I did. I was like
just matters and I and I'm from
608
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:20.639
Montana, like I'm American, like
let's be But I was like, Okay,
609
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:24.199
it was a really interesting slice of
Chicago because it's not the Chicago that
610
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:29.119
is like sweet and funny, if
that makes sense, Like the Sicilian neighborhoods
611
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:34.039
are like they've got some stuff going
on, and I'm going to say about
612
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.519
it. Yeah, right, A
bunch of the food was right, so
613
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:37.880
that that's a big that's a big
part of it. Still good. Yeah,
614
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.440
God I missed Giardi Era. We
don't play out here, no,
615
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.519
no, Yeah. And I could
walk to Chinatown. That was the other
616
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.039
thing. I was in that area, Okay. I was right by Kamiski
617
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.239
and I was like, oh it
was great. I love that area.
618
00:39:53.440 --> 00:40:02.320
Yeah, say Kaminsky if you do
by Kaminsky Field Kemiskey, per yep,
619
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.000
those guys you bold about the Walking
Dead as far as like obviously probably open
620
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:08.519
up a lot of doors for you
guys. But does it also have like
621
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:12.480
a thing where kind of typecast you
into that genre where you've got to do
622
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.400
horror movies or horror shows. Is
there like a pro and con to it?
623
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.360
Um? I think I think everything
in life has a pro and con.
624
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.400
So I'll say that out there you
go. But what I will say
625
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:27.880
is what I have found from my
careers. I'm starting to play more villains,
626
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.559
Like I've done a couple of Bloomhouse
pictures where I'm like, I am
627
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:36.119
not a nice person, and I
love it. I love it. And
628
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.719
so what it really does on some
level is like if you think about the
629
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:44.559
film world as a radar and you
think about altitude, like once you're on
630
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.159
a show like The Walking Dead that
has the global audience, it does it
631
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.599
gives you you You go up a
level in terms of on other people's radar,
632
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:53.920
and so whatever you did in that
show is what they're going to notice
633
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.400
you for. And that's probably where
the next door is going to open um.
634
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:00.400
So like, and some of it
also is just by a circumstance,
635
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.880
right, Like I live in New
Orleans, so I am up for a
636
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.119
lot more movies here than I am
in Chicago because they're going to try to
637
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.079
cast local for some parts rather than
you know, flying someone in all that
638
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.480
stuff. And I had a character
that, like, you know, I
639
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:17.559
think it's harder if you're one of
the main people because that's what your face
640
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.320
is associated with, you know,
And so you have to. I think
641
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:27.079
I think it depends on how much
of a type people now think you are
642
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:29.519
and what that means and all those
things. Like I can never see Robert
643
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.559
England doing a comedy. You'll always
be Freddy Krueger or something like that.
644
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.119
Yeah, that makes sense, right, Like like I think of George Costanza
645
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.719
and he does a lot of like
you know, after Steinfeld. To combat
646
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:45.360
that image or to be somebody other
than that character, you know, that
647
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.079
takes like chances and specific decisions about
your career, you know, right,
648
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.119
yeah, yeah, And like life, you know what I mean? Like,
649
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.159
uh, for for me, like
for sure a lot there's a lot
650
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:05.480
of stuff happening in my life after
after Walking Dead, Like I lost one
651
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.119
hundred and forty problems in the summer
and so I got Cat Secretly after that,
652
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:20.320
I for sure spent in audition and
the thought he was bigger, So
653
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.719
you know that'll do it too,
And just like whatever's going on, and
654
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:28.400
just like the evan flow of life
along with the evan flow of the industry.
655
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.400
Um. I have to say,
though, um, I've been very
656
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.559
fortunate in that regard. I've gotten
even the stuff that I didn't book has
657
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:43.559
been so interesting, you know,
um, whether the roles are similar or
658
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:49.000
not. It's like it's very very
rarely because of my size and because of
659
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:53.440
like my physical presence has very rarely
been like somebody who's not active. There
660
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:57.519
you go, and now you're medium
tiny as opposed to a big tiny right,
661
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:05.920
so right, okay, we're working
back to medium though. It's just
662
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.119
coming if the oldest. I got
to ask you about this EP. I've
663
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:13.639
listened to it in Spotify, the
Monster Monster EP. This is crazy.
664
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.760
I love it. Man. It's
you know, there's a track called Dead
665
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.639
Homies. I'm a big ice cube
fancil so as I saw that, I
666
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.559
got to hear this track and talk
about that EP. And Carrie, have
667
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:27.519
you heard it? Are you familiar
with I have not. I need to
668
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.039
so. I'm also one of the
things I decided to do after Walking Dead
669
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.039
was I'm in grad school, and
so I spent a lot of time like
670
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.920
with my nose in a book thing
like and I'm like taking an agricultural economics
671
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.360
class right now. So I am
not as in the loop as I usually
672
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:45.639
am. I got something to do. Yeah, but I will say if
673
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:50.440
if I mean, I would assume
THEE it was great. Yes, it's
674
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.000
fun, you know, you know
what it is. Um, I was
675
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:59.320
in a dry period of my career
and I wanted to have some archistic control.
676
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.280
And so I have a friend that
I've known for my whole life that
677
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:08.000
is a musician and he was looking
for some kind of change artistically as well.
678
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.280
So I like this in the music, let me see what I come
679
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.400
up with. And uh, we
just kept doing it. And we're still
680
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.599
doing it, you know what I
mean. It's it's a thing that I
681
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.360
enjoy doing. It doesn't it's I
don't have to do it, you know
682
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.840
what I mean. I can do
it at my leisure. I can do
683
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.280
it as much more, a little, as little as I like, and
684
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.679
I can do whatever I want.
I don't actually have an aspiration for it
685
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:36.719
professionally, like if people listen to
it and it becomes popular and fantastic,
686
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:38.840
but like, uh, it's kind
of not why I made it, which
687
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:45.400
is cliche as fuck, but right, but it's true. It's just like
688
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.079
I think your emailed anywhere. It's
like that artistic control. It's like I
689
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:52.559
write, and I have a ton
of plays that have written and all this
690
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.719
stuff, and I don't I'm starting
to get more into pushing and maybe publishing
691
00:44:55.719 --> 00:45:00.480
it like book or whatever. But
part of the reason I love is because
692
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.440
I don't have to depend on someone
to let me do it. Yeah yeah,
693
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:08.800
And you don't realize that you need
until you know, much like I
694
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:13.559
wish that was something people told us
early, like just start doing stuff.
695
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:20.920
Yeah, so whoever, and just
start doing stuff yeah, otherwise will never
696
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:22.840
happen, right, And you just
kind of wait. And it doesn't matter
697
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.480
if you're a millionaire because of it, because there is this thing now where
698
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:28.400
people are like, oh, well, I don't know how to this or
699
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:30.000
I don't know how to do this, And I'm like, what if you
700
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:31.599
just did it because you enjoy it? Yeah, Like you don't have to
701
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.239
be the best singer, and you
don't have to be the best actor or
702
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:37.320
the best this or the best that. But if you enjoy it cares you
703
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:45.039
know what, Carrie, you don't
even have to be good, you do
704
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:52.039
not. Really, that's true.
I've been I've been screaming up from the
705
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.239
volant top lately because, like I
have a lot of I'm very fortunate to
706
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:59.079
have a lot of really talented friends, and some like like Carrie, have
707
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:00.440
reached out was like, Hey,
we're doing this thing, you want to
708
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.880
be part of it. And it's
made me want to reach out to my
709
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:06.920
other friends who haven't taken that step
yet, like, Yo, you could
710
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:10.719
just do something. Yeah, it
doesn't and that's the that's It doesn't even
711
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.400
have to be good, right,
No, it can just be fun.
712
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.960
Like I am working on two different
projects, one with THEO and our friend
713
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.639
Pamela Davis Nolan and it's a short
film. And I'm working on one that
714
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:27.000
I'm writing with Anne Mahoney who played
Olivia, And I'm like, we're just
715
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.159
gonna do it, like we're gonna
figure it out and we're gonna do it.
716
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:32.559
Yeah, Like they're both gonna be
I think they're both good. But
717
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.239
on some level, what matters is
that we're doing something we want to do
718
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.840
and it's it's feeding our soul.
It's cheesy and cliche ass, that's it,
719
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:46.119
you know. And these are both
short films, or the one with
720
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:50.559
THEO is and then the one I'm
working on with a Mahoney is a longer
721
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.320
idea, So we have to get
that to a place where we're gonna figure
722
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:55.639
out how we want to do it. Oh wow, that was gonna be
723
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.079
my next question to talk about the
short film you guys are working on,
724
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.000
and when can we expect the one
you two are working on together. Is
725
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:04.559
that out yet or how how long
do we have to wait or do you
726
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.280
even know when it might be available? We are in pre production, which
727
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:14.079
is a fancy term for gathering money
and truth which but we are filming in
728
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.760
the end of July and it'll probably
be ready to be seen spring twenty twenty
729
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.920
four, would be my theory.
Yeah, and THEO was playing the lead.
730
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:27.639
THEO all right, yeah, I'll
let him tell you more. No,
731
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:29.840
no, no, I want you
to tell everybody. Okay, Well,
732
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:34.840
it's a it's a story that actually
M reached out to me about a
733
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.480
few years ago. So rewind back
to when I was talking about how I
734
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:43.360
got into acting. Person that cast
me as the first league was Pamela and
735
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.239
so that's how we met work.
I was in one of her plays early
736
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:50.079
on, and she told me about
this idea. And it has a lot
737
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.400
to do with um, it has
a lot to do with gun violence,
738
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:58.519
It has a lot to do with
like public descent as far as our politics
739
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:04.079
and polos Hee's go just like the
way people are really really feeling, you
740
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.400
know, just like getting down to
the to the really the real the reality
741
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:13.760
of the way people are really,
really really feeling and maybe even like forecasting,
742
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.639
you know, because like she's kind
of good at that. So Terry,
743
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:21.000
do you know about No Soul?
I'll tell you about it after we
744
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.760
get off. But in sure,
it's a story about all the people,
745
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:30.079
all the black people in New Orleans
leaving the city abruptly, there wouldn't really
746
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.119
be much of a city, so
that would be terrible. Yeah, and
747
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.480
so, um, that was the
whole point of it, right, and
748
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:43.400
and so that's took all the people
that are left are white people. Um,
749
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:57.719
and uh, we played the white
people. But he's also kind of
750
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.800
forecasting, like she was forecasting think
gentrification of New Orleans, because a lot
751
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:07.599
of the things maybe not as extreme, but uh, in some numbers in
752
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:16.360
some places are starting to look like
So there's also the airbnb thing where like
753
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:21.679
you there will be a block in
like downtown the Bywater where there's only one
754
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.559
person who lives on that block,
like all the houses are short term rentals.
755
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:28.440
And we finally got our city council
to do some movement on it.
756
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.719
But so just for everybody out there. If you're visiting New Orleans, is
757
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.440
it a licensed bed and breakfast or
a hotel? Partially as well, because
758
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.880
an Airbnb won't tell you you're in
a dangerous neighborhood, and that is something
759
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.920
you have definitely got to consider.
And you don't know New Orleans well enough.
760
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.599
If you're visiting, right, please
bed and breakfast or hotel please?
761
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.119
Yeah. Yeah, So we have
areas that it's like, I don't even
762
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.199
know what you would call it.
It's not even necessarily it's gentrification, but
763
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.960
it's in a way that is like
there's not even people living there. Yeah,
764
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.679
it's in early stage gentrification, which
is the most dangerous. WHOA,
765
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:07.719
no late days. This is the
most immediately dangerous. And every time we
766
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.320
get a bad hurricane it lessens a
little because people realize we will have no
767
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.079
power for twelve days and then they're
like, oh, I don't like that,
768
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:19.840
and I'm like, well all right, yeah. Yeah. It's like
769
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.920
the Chicago winter. It kind of
weeds people out a little bit, like
770
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:28.199
a right, did they all come
back? Remember why they left? Yeah?
771
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:32.360
I do not think I will see
Chicago winter. Oh it's not that
772
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:37.239
bad, you know. I was
born in Montana and Chicago is worse.
773
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:42.519
Yeah, I have dealt with negative
twenty regular like a week, and Montana's
774
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.480
dry. And I will tell you
Chicago is one of the coldest places.
775
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.599
It's the coldest I've ever been.
Chicago will make you feel like you can't
776
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.119
start your car. You gotta be
worried about that. And then the wind
777
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:52.559
will smack you like it like it
goes money. You know, it's like,
778
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:57.119
what's what's going on? It's just
too windy. And I'll reiterate what
779
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:05.400
I said before. I'm from Georgia. Just come up here once like a
780
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:07.800
couple of days, like you know, visit family, then get out in
781
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.519
New York. I've lived in New
York. I lived in Massachusetts, and
782
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.679
I've been through their winters and that's
fine. I feel accomplished and I don't
783
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:20.639
have to do any more. There
you go, you go. You can't
784
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:29.360
argue with that. The box is
checked. Well, thanks so much.
785
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.159
Both of you guys are coming on. You talk about how people could find
786
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:36.480
you online, follow you guys on
like Instagram and Twitter and all the places
787
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:38.400
you guys have like maybe I've like
a website or anything you want to promote
788
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:42.119
and so people could follow you and
find out when this project comes out.
789
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.840
So the name of the project is
Room for Dessert, and you're gonna want
790
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.159
to follow Pamela Davis Nolan. I
believe she's under Coffee Colored Dreams as well
791
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:53.559
and keen Amitting Publishing. But if
you look for Pamela Davis Nolan and you
792
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:57.679
see me and the orre following her
on Instagram, and then for me,
793
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.000
I am kind of only on Instagram
and that's kind of all I'm really good
794
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:04.719
at, So find me there.
I will not pay for the verification.
795
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:12.719
I don't care. But it's obviously
me because it's gardening and h random veterans
796
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.239
things and dogs. That's if you
see a bunch of those posts, that's
797
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:20.960
me, you know, like almost
no photos of me, but you will
798
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:25.000
know how my tree is doing and
how my dogs agree. So no,
799
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:30.960
tichtok, I won't help you.
I was I realized I wasn't following you
800
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:36.519
a little bit ago and I was
looking like I don't okay, okay,
801
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:42.360
no, this yeah, this check
this check yeah yeah yeah yeah. Like
802
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.920
that's the picture of jasins, that's
picture, that's her. These are plants.
803
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.039
That's difference. Look at the flowers, look at the flowers. Yeah,
804
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.320
yea, yeah yeah um, and
I can be flown across the board
805
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:59.159
of Theoda's Crane. Um, Instagram, Twitter, My website is Big Dude
806
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:05.639
for Hire. Yeah, and everything
else is Theodas Crane. That's awesome.
807
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.119
Thanks so much Karry Khu and the
Oldest Crane for coming on the show here.
808
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.000
That's been a big thrill, haven't
you both thinned? There is anything
809
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.719
else you guys want to promote or
I obviously will look forward for that short
810
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.519
film when it comes out and everything
else. Now I just always forget because
811
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:22.039
I'm because it's such a length of
time between filming and actually things gowing up,
812
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.000
and then I'm like, no,
I think that's it. Yeah yeah,
813
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:29.400
room for dessert. And then I
will post on like my Instagram as
814
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:31.440
well to keep people informed it with
me and AND's projects coming up, which
815
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:35.639
is a while we have to finish
some stuff, but like, yeah,
816
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:39.599
I think I think that's it.
Plant native plants, That's what I'll promote
817
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:45.079
because it takes less effort, it
takes less effort, it takes less water,
818
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:49.159
and there they usually like work with
your environment better. So here in
819
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:53.280
Arizona, don't plant a pretty tree
unless it's supposed to be there. That's
820
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:59.480
my one. That's the promotion I
have, and everybody listen to the OZP
821
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:04.000
Monster Monster I thought on Spotify and
maybe Carrye'll check it out. WHI she's
822
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:08.079
into books. I have a plane
in the background. Check out five Nights
823
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:12.639
at Freddy's. Also, I'll be
in that. Oh awesome, there we
824
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.840
go. Yeah, definitely check that
out everybody. Thanks so much Carrie Kayhill
825
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:20.599
and Theodas Crane for coming on the
Infinite Benter Podcast. Big Honor can't say
826
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.039
it. Thank you enough for both
of you coming on here and giving some
827
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.199
stories about the Walking Dead and much
much more. And I noticed the theme
828
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:28.719
you know it you both started off
to like karaoke, and you know,
829
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.280
that's really what I thought. That's
pretty cool. That kind of helped get
830
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:35.039
you guys where we are now.
That's pretty funny. Yeah, it is
831
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.800
funny. Yeah, everybody go out
there and do some karaoke. You never
832
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.840
know what will happen next. So
story, thank you, story. That's
833
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.199
great. All right, thanks so
much, guys. You you're welcome.
834
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.880
Thank you so much. You're welcome. That was really fun talking with Kerry
835
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.920
kay Hill and Theioda's Crane. Definitely
go check out their short film and follow
836
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:55.880
them online to keep in tune with
what they're doing. That now has put
837
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.960
my total tally of Walking Dead actors
on the show at six. You know
838
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.280
that that's pretty cool. Like I
said, one hundred and forty nine episodes
839
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:06.920
in, I never would have guessed
I would have had one, let alone
840
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.000
six different actors from that show.
So more than grateful, big salute to
841
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:13.400
all of them who have come on
here in the past and hopefully in the
842
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.119
future. So I really really appreciate
Carry and THEO coming on. And we
843
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:20.920
talked about it in the interview there
that THEO has an album he has you
844
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:22.920
can find it on Spotify. It's
called Monster Monster, but it's spelled m
845
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.719
O N S T I R twice. It's an ep he has out there.
846
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.800
I wanted to play a track from
that to get you guys acclimated with
847
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:32.920
it, maybe get you to go
to Spotify and check him out. And
848
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:37.559
it's a pretty cool coincidence to think
that the first Walking Dead actor I've ever
849
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:42.119
had on this show was Joshua Michael
going way back its episode forty one,
850
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.639
and he had mentioned that he was
in a band, and I played a
851
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.239
couple of songs from his group,
Look Mexico. Fast forward all the way
852
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:51.800
to hear I found out that THEO
Crane has an EP called Monster Monster on
853
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.159
Spotify and Pandora and I've been playing
some of the tracks. We're gonna play
854
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.360
one here, and I just think
it's really cool that a lot of these
855
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.159
actors are more than actors. So
shout out to Michael. Check out his
856
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:04.400
band and Look Mexico. You can
find their music on all the platforms.
857
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.440
And if you want to hear those
episodes with past walking to that actors,
858
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.079
I'll tell you right now which numbers
they are with So Josh and Michael's episode
859
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:15.599
forty one, Vincent m Ward's episode
forty nine, Jason Warner Smith episode sixty
860
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:20.039
eight, and Luke Temple the most
recent one was one hundred and ten.
861
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.440
And all these actors have worked with
the two people you just heard from on
862
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:27.960
this show, so big shout out
to Carry and theover Coming on the show.
863
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.119
And let's get into that track from
THEO. This one's called No Game
864
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:35.599
Plan from Theoda's Crane. You can
find it on Spotify. It's called Monster
865
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.480
Monster. The EP he has a
lot of fun with this kind of a
866
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.159
you know, like if you had
like Mac ten and like Vincent Price like
867
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.360
combined, this is what you would
get, So check it out. Here's
868
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:49.760
no game plan from Theoda's crane and
big shout out to him and carry cahover
869
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.679
coming on the show. But this
is no game plan from his ep Monster
870
00:56:52.760 --> 00:57:00.159
Monster here on the Infinite Banser Podcast, Let's go black guest day, ain't
871
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:04.360
out left, shake my rep.
Watch your step you want to save the
872
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.760
little homie bitch be my guest,
Watch your left? He got next eating
873
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:14.920
up the livestock. Can't your family
pets take one step? You can't bet
874
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.719
we taking shoulders out the soccer,
taking heads off next, thlow a sparrel
875
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:21.559
line the pocket. It's your home, weeping bright. Oh you brought this
876
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:24.400
little black gag, you cap black
bests. I made a magine motherfucker cause
877
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:29.239
of real life stress. Its I
have a motherfucker. I'm a hairless past
878
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:34.079
the story straing motherfucker with the clap
bast becc to stratched motherfucker, make you
879
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.599
sake. Ain't yet. And you
heard the band of arrows trying to feed
880
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.199
arrows up the crib hole posing.
Now you're magining up a zero and a
881
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:44.920
couple of band of heroes. Ain't
scaling the darkness? Watch for your part,
882
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:46.920
watch with the spark. I mean, in every sign of life,
883
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:50.320
I would have cleared out the art. I bring a bitch out, a
884
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.039
brave man. What can I say
that you for comper deals feels from the
885
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:57.800
walker's break hand, a break up
the game playing teeth. It's a bread
886
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.119
band bt of a footprints dead,
It's just a frame RESI freshman, stage
887
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:06.480
man making head for the tame man's
I mean Moncar's favorite, my solidom come
888
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:17.559
to no game plans, faite rug
no game play, sam my side game
889
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:28.400
play's favorite, couscar, bottle buncar
no game player, how your mouscle's favorite?
890
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:35.239
Most I don't come with no game
play play? Bottle't come with no
891
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:49.000
game play? Right bun with no
game play? Bottom coming don't get game
892
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.599
play? Hey, what's gonna invise
your man? Vincent m wars in a
893
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:54.880
oscar from the Number one should walking
dead and I'm here with my man Mark
894
00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:01.320
from Infinite Banter. Yeah, but
the stay tuned piece. May I have
895
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:13.400
your attention? Least infinite You don't
think I didn't watch them. I remember
896
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.360
them. No, of course you
did. Of course you can have called
897
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:21.679
the bad at that can can attention? I do that pretty much all the
898
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:25.320
time. So I disagree. You're
yeah, you're a terrible person. Yeah
899
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:30.039
it was. It was ridiculous.
There you go. But that's the way
900
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:32.320
you sum it up, complete garbage. Cool camp. You'd make me feel
901
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.559
like the Greene because I had all
this hate in my heart for Vanilla.
902
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.360
I saw these years, thirty something
years, and now you get yeah,
903
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:42.079
I'm just blowing you up. So
I'm like, yo, you know it?
904
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:44.480
I, oh, well, maybe
wouldn't it? Let me go this
905
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:49.519
nice? Let me go watch the
movie? Wasn't that the Ice movie had
906
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:54.159
cool as Ice or something? You
know what it's called because you you win't
907
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:57.400
seen it? You went, you
seen it? You went and seen it.
908
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:01.679
Stand. You know what it's called
you? It is called this whole
909
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:07.719
thing. Do you know what it
is called? You? Is the opening
910
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.960
day all right? Stead of a
Star Wars poster? I really have a
911
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.039
clue as Ice? Yeah when it
with the Voter cycle? Is the old
912
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:23.199
Ship? Yeah? Awesome, you've
seen it too? Hell yeah twice You've
913
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:34.079
got the Blue Ray and into special
directors come, hell yeah, get out
914
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:42.920
of here, complete garbage, infinite. It's time once again for the infinite
915
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:47.679
torture segment, the segment where I
put myself through some torture, usually visually,
916
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:52.880
where I'm watching a movie that either
I have not seen before or had
917
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.760
some interest in and wanted to check
it out, or somebody suggested, like
918
01:00:55.880 --> 01:01:00.079
with this movie here Split Second.
M Doc Diego frequent guests of the show.
919
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:02.880
He was saying to me that you
should check out this movie called Split
920
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:05.760
Second. I'm like, all right, you know what, I'll do it.
921
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.679
I'm always up for suggestions because you
know, it's not easy looking for
922
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:14.119
something bad on purpose, so it's
good to have some help. So if
923
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:16.840
anybody has suggestions, let me know. I definitely am looking forward. I
924
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:22.239
shouldn't say I'm looking forward to any
of this. I'm definitely encouraging that you
925
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.880
send me your bad suggestions and I
will take them under advisements. So here
926
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:30.079
we go. Split Second a movie
starring Rutger howerd. You probably know him
927
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:34.920
from movies like Blade Runner since City. The last thing I saw him in
928
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.480
was Hobo with the Shotgun. That
was one of those grindhouse trailers that was
929
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.679
turned into a movie kind of like
Machette, and then I talked about in
930
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.360
a couple episodes Back to Thanksgiving movie
which will become a film as well.
931
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:49.679
Also as Kim Cattrelle. You know
her from Sex in the City, I
932
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.039
know her more from Mannequin, a
movie I watched a lot of times as
933
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.280
a kid. I don't know why. It's really not that good of a
934
01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.599
movie, but I watched it a
lot. So here we go split Second,
935
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:02.159
and right off the top, I
don't know why it's called split Second.
936
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:06.480
After watching the entire movie, I
don't get why it's called that.
937
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.360
It is a really generic title that
does not fit. It. Kind of
938
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:15.480
feels like Blade Runner and Alien like
a combination of that kind of remind me
939
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:17.599
of Angel Heart a little bit.
You know, there's somebody running around taking
940
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:22.159
heartside of people's chests, and Rutger
Hower plays a cop that's you know,
941
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.400
always on a bender, trying to
find out who this is. I don't
942
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.960
know what Split Second supposed to me, So right at the start, at
943
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:30.280
the credits, it says a challenge
film. I'm like, you're damn right,
944
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:34.079
this could be a challenge to watch
this. I have no idea what
945
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:39.159
I'm in for. It's in London
two thousand and eight, so everything is
946
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:44.760
wet. Apparently climate change is really
hit hard in London. Everything's underwater.
947
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:47.159
When I say underwater, I mean
not like the city is underwater, but
948
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:51.760
there's like two or three feet of
standing water in all the streets. So
949
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:55.119
people are always good lashing it up
walking through water to get to wherever they
950
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.880
gotta go. There's a hovercraft in
there, which is pretty pretty fit.
951
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.079
Because I talked about mask in the
last episode, so I don't know if
952
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:07.000
the hovercraft turns into a car like
Unmasked, but yeah, somebody's right run
953
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.280
in a hovercraft because you know you
can't drive cars. I have a car
954
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.679
by the way, two thousand and
four, Saturn. I still have it
955
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.639
to this day. Twice I've been
hit with like torrential rains while driving home
956
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:21.639
and got stuck underwater where that car
stalled out and had to push it out
957
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.480
and wait for someone to come help
me. And the second time was really
958
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:28.400
hectic because I was in Detroit by
myself at like ten o'clock at night and
959
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.440
I didn't get home until that was
on a Friday. I didn't get home
960
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:36.159
until Sunday morning in my car had
to get fixed. It's a big story.
961
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:37.280
Maybe one day I'll tell it on
here. There's a lot to tell
962
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:40.599
there. It's too much. That
brought back a lot of bad memories for
963
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:45.599
me of driving through water and realizing
how dangerous that is. It is not
964
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.079
fun. So maybe one day I'll
bring up that story. I don't know
965
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.639
why I would do it, but
I'll save it for another time. That
966
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:58.000
was torture without a doubt. There's
a strip club that Rutger Howerd's character goes
967
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:04.119
to called jaj'st Well, why isn't
it called Vjj's in two thousand and eight.
968
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.960
There's a pay phone that he uses, so I guess people don't have
969
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:10.280
cell phones yet. I had a
cell phone in two thousand and eight.
970
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:13.960
Where people still using pay phones in
two thousand and eight. And he's drinking
971
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.199
coffee at the strip club. Now, this is the introduction of this character.
972
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:18.880
I'm not aware that he's gonna always
drink coffee throughout the whole movie,
973
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:21.599
but the first time he's drinking it
is at a strip club. I'm thinking,
974
01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:25.320
like, I didn't know they serve
coffee. Why would you drink coffee
975
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:28.039
there? That sounds pretty gross.
So Howard, he's set up as like
976
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:31.480
this kind of detective bounty hunter guy. He's out there looking for some killer,
977
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.280
like a Jack the Ripper type,
and his name is Stone, which
978
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.800
they finally, you know, tell
what his name is. There's a murder
979
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:43.239
at the Vajj's club, he can't
find the killer, and it cuts to
980
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:45.639
him being at the police station and
they tell him he's gotta have a new
981
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.360
partner in it typical you know,
buddy cop trope thing. He's a rogue
982
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:53.440
cop who's got a bad attitude and
he didn't like partners because his last one
983
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.960
died, and he's gonna get some
you know, over educated, smart,
984
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:00.480
you know, cracking jokes type of
guy. And that's the situator. So
985
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.119
he kind of like a buddy cop
film that doesn't really play like a real
986
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.360
buddy cop film. But and then
he asks for a pen so you could
987
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.880
stir his coffee. Which is disgusting, is how using a pen which people
988
01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:14.119
put in their mouth, in their
ears and their nose whatever they scratched their
989
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:16.239
butt with it. I mean,
it's a what kind of coffee is this?
990
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.239
You can put a pen in there? That's disgusting. And his partner's
991
01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:26.559
name is Dick Durkin, not Dick
Durbin, the Illinois Senator Dick Durkin.
992
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:30.440
There's another joke I have later on
that I'll use it this because there's a
993
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.039
coffee joke. So that should tell
you where I'm going with that. So
994
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.519
the killer tears out the heart of
his victims. It's like Mulram, I
995
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:41.519
thought made. They could solve this
really quick. It's Mulram mum the world.
996
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.920
He's a one doing it. Thirty
minutes in I wrote down, where's
997
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:46.639
Kim Cattrelle. She's not in this
yet. She does not show up for
998
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:50.000
at least thirty minutes. This does
have like a forty eight hours vibe,
999
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:54.039
you know, because rutger House character
is very like Nick Nolty. Oh Hail
1000
01:05:54.119 --> 01:06:00.360
convict, They're in your damned dinner, sag nut. He's got that kind
1001
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:02.679
of vibe. With his new partner. He treats him like shit. He
1002
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:06.400
doesn't help him, you know what's
going on. He doesn't seem want him
1003
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:11.760
around, but he needs him because
he knows stuff. But he's not very
1004
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:15.880
open to being a friendly guy with
the new partner. So the new partner
1005
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:17.360
guy. He has a set of
keys, and on his keys there is
1006
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:20.519
a wrestler like hanging from it,
and it looked like Lex Luger. I
1007
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:24.320
don't know if that's actually who it
was, but it looked like a Lex
1008
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:27.280
Luger key chain, so I thought
that was pretty cool. So I'm liking
1009
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:29.639
this guy already. I would have
been friends with this guy. And there's
1010
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:31.599
mannequin, I mean, Kim Catrelle. She shows up. Yeah, she's
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01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:35.960
like doing botany in some like you
know, water infested place. And then
1012
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.840
they go back to his apartment and
I want to know what kind of shoes
1013
01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:42.559
are they wearing where everything is flooded, because he's like, nobody seems to
1014
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:45.719
care about wet socks. Nobody's worried
about walking into somebody else's apartment with wet
1015
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:50.000
shoes, nobody's taking them off.
It's very they don't talk about like they
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01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:53.920
have the water. I really don't
know why the water was a thing because
1017
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:57.719
it's all throughout the city, but
it doesn't play into anything. It doesn't
1018
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.559
have anything to do with the narrative. I don't really know they're going with
1019
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.559
it, but you know, I
guess it's a cool idea, just to
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01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:06.559
have it flooded for some reason.
And of course Rutger Howard's crib looks like
1021
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:12.159
ridiculous. It looks like a gun
closet. There's no like living space.
1022
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:18.039
It's just motorcycles and guns, and
it's thinkful of dishes. Oh yeah,
1023
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:21.400
and there's pigeons inside his house and
it's normal. Well, I do all
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01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:26.360
cops have shitty apartments because if you
look at most movies, especially like these,
1025
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.480
you know, these eighties and nineties
flicks, they have like these bachelor
1026
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:32.719
pads that are just like total like
testosterone places. He's got a motorcycle in
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01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:38.920
his living room. Okay, it's
like, why, oh there's guns everywhere?
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01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:42.079
Sure, what do I have?
Have a couple of funk pops?
1029
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:46.400
So stupid? He has more guns
than food. This guy doesn't go shopping.
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01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:50.280
I wrote down that Durkin the partner
who shows up Durkin and Stowed need
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01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:55.039
Duncan. So there's my bad joke
I was alluding to earlier. Durkin needs
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01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:58.480
to go on a Dunkin run because
he always wants coffee. Rutger Howard is
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01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:00.199
always crying the neat some coffee,
and I guess a pen to stir it
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01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:03.800
with. There's a crazy scene where
Kim Catrell's character is taking a shower kind
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01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.480
of reminiscent of Psycho. You get
a boob shot. So if you want
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01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:10.159
to see Kim Cantrell's boobs, they
are there for you. And there's some
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01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:13.559
heavy breathing kind of has like a
Michael Myers vibe or like I said,
1038
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:16.720
Psycho, he's so apparently watching her, you know, I'll say this,
1039
01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:20.479
there's a lot of cool setup scenes
in this movie. It really isn't as
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01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:23.960
much as Tortures I thought it would
be. But yeah, if you want
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01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.000
to see Kim ConTroll naked, you
get a boob shot here. This is
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01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:29.920
like the first time you start think
the idea that the killer is not a
1043
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.720
person at some sort of demon.
Just the way that this killer is acting
1044
01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:35.880
from the point of view of what
he's doing. And of course, my
1045
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:43.800
favorite trope smoking in the hospital.
They're at the hospital and they're smoking cigarettes.
1046
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:48.439
My favorite is in Jaws when Roy
Scheider's kid gets like what happens?
1047
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:53.119
He's in shock, he's in the
hospital, people are scared. The mayor
1048
01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:57.079
shows up and he's smoking cigarettes.
No, where's the mayor? Into history
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01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:00.720
of cities smoking in the hospital and
two and eight. Although this movie was
1050
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.920
made in like nineteen ninety one or
something. What the year what's this thing
1051
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:08.239
made? I didn't write it down
somewhere in the nineties. Kind of has
1052
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:11.359
like a predator vibe then, because
they can't see the killer, but he
1053
01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:14.600
could see them. He's kind of
like blending into the background. He tears
1054
01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:16.039
apart to prey one by one,
he can't kill him, So yeah,
1055
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:18.960
there's a little bit of a predator
vibe going on. I'm a predator nerds.
1056
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.279
I definitely caught that. There's a
morgue scene, which is pretty crazy.
1057
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.760
It's it's gruesome. Killer kills somebody, but he doesn't get the heart.
1058
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.199
The dead bodies at the morgue and
the two guys, the detectives,
1059
01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:31.439
they figured this out and they got
to go to the morgue and stop him
1060
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:34.479
before he takes the body. Kind
of like predator, I sort of guy,
1061
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:36.399
it's the same thing he took.
Remember he took jesseven too, his
1062
01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:41.319
body after he was killed because he's
doing trophies or something whatever. So yeah,
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01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.079
that scene is pretty cool. When
you watch this movie, definitely check
1064
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:45.640
out the morgue scene. It's it's
one of the best parts of the movie.
1065
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.399
I will say this like I've done
a lot of these infinite torture segments.
1066
01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:51.960
Now I must have done at least
twelve to fifteen of these things.
1067
01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:56.239
This is one of the first times
I wrote this down where I watched the
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01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:59.439
movie more than I wrote notes.
That's a good thing because I'm not making
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01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.239
jokes. I'm not making, you
know, little shitty comments about it.
1070
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:05.359
I'm actually just watching the movie.
So this Brace yourself. This might be
1071
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:10.279
my favorite thing I've had to sit
through. There's more coffee. They get
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01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:14.039
bigger guns as what you need to
fight this guy. Two thousand and eight
1073
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:15.359
is a year of the Rats.
Of course it is, because there's rats
1074
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:19.199
everywhere. The city is full of
water. I said this movie should have
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01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:24.039
been called Mister Coffee. There's a
lot of names they should have gave this
1076
01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:27.479
movie. Split Second wasn't one of
them. There is a funny scene where
1077
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:30.399
Rutger Howard and the other guy,
his new partner, they have a back
1078
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.640
and forth about each other's name because
Rutger Howard's characters is known as Harley.
1079
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:36.239
That's his name. But of course
you've got Harley Davidson in his living room.
1080
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:40.239
He's got a plastered on his shower
wall, and other guy's name is
1081
01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:43.239
Dick Durkin. So they go back
and forth about how each other's names are,
1082
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.800
and you could tell that Rutger Howard
is having a hard time holding it
1083
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:46.800
in, like he wanted to laugh. I'm sure they had to do this
1084
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:48.760
scene quite a few times. If
you watch it, you could tell this
1085
01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:54.800
so definitely was one hit that got
them both. Dick the sidekick, gets
1086
01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:00.520
caught by the demon and he engraves
like some sort of like demonic simbul shit
1087
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:02.840
all over his chest and that's how
they find where he is, which is
1088
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:06.439
like down to the sewers with the
ninja turtles and dos effects, so that's
1089
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:10.359
where they have to go get him. I wrote down many rats were killed
1090
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:14.000
during the filming of this. You
always see at the end of the movie
1091
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:16.079
say no animals were hurts are armed. I have a hard time believing none
1092
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:19.560
of these rats were harmed during the
making of this. So the climax,
1093
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:24.359
they go into a sewer to find
Kim Coatrell who's been kidnapped, and the
1094
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:28.000
demon is down there. There's an
old train tunnel that they're at. There's
1095
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.479
some trains that have down there that
are obviously abandoned because the sewer is flooded,
1096
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:32.720
he can't take the trains, I
guess. Kind of remind me of
1097
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:35.840
the Blue Line when it goes underground
kind of, but it's a different kind
1098
01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:42.920
of wet that's like pe as opposed
to water from from the ocean. So
1099
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:45.560
the demon's basically inside of a train
car. Some stuff happens. They blow
1100
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:49.800
up the train car. He's dead, and then Kim Katrell and Rutger Howard
1101
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:53.800
start making out in the water,
which I thought it was like a weird
1102
01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:57.840
forced kind of love scene or whatever. That was awkward, but you know,
1103
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.920
you gotta have some sort of love, see, I guess I don't
1104
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.079
know why they had to do that. And the demon kind of looks like
1105
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:08.279
Venom or gaus Zeno Moore from the
Alien movies, so kind of creepy looking.
1106
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:12.960
Apparently like his old partner died and
his like soul is inside this demon.
1107
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.960
That's why he's always going after Rutger
Hower. So the heart is blown
1108
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:17.600
up on this demon. That's how
you have to kill it. You can't
1109
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:20.239
just like you know, shoot at
it and stuff. So it dies or
1110
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:23.479
is it dead. I don't know. They kind of leave it open for
1111
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:27.079
a sequel. Movie ends, and
you know what, I hate to say
1112
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:30.760
it because it wasn't torture. This
was actually pretty easy to watch. I
1113
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.119
didn't hate it. I did read
some notes about it. Harrison Ford was
1114
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:36.239
originally in mind when the script was
written, which makes sense because he's the
1115
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:41.319
star blade Runner. This is very
Blade Runner type movie. I'm guessing he
1116
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:44.319
didn't want to do it, or
maybe he never got that far. I
1117
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.399
don't know, but there's definitely a
cult following with this movie. A lot
1118
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:50.000
of people have discovered it on People
really like it. One of the original
1119
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:55.680
titles was black Tide. That would
have been way better than split Seconds.
1120
01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:59.520
It's like, I don't even understand
that split second doesn't make any sense why
1121
01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:01.000
it's called. It's like they just
reached into a hat and it's like a
1122
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:04.960
split second. Sure, mister coffee
would have worked. Black Tide would have
1123
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:09.680
been a better, much better title. But overall, so I give these
1124
01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:14.399
movies like ratings. So five garbage
cans means it's garbage the worst thing.
1125
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:18.079
One garbage can means it's pretty tolerable, if not decent, and that's what
1126
01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:21.600
I'll give this one. This is
the best movie. I can't belie I'm
1127
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:25.840
saying this that I've watched for the
infinite torture segment. I'm not saying it's
1128
01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.439
a great movie, and I'm not
saying you should go buy it and go
1129
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:30.920
watch it numerous times. I don't
know if I'll ever watch it again.
1130
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:34.119
But as far as all the ones
I've watched, this one was the least
1131
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:38.880
for me to make fun of,
and I had the most I don't know
1132
01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:42.000
a word this. I guess I
enjoyed it. I don't try not to
1133
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.079
say I liked it. It's like
I didn't. It's not a good movie,
1134
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:47.920
but there's a lot of cool things
about it. Rutger Holler is awesome.
1135
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:51.319
Rest in peace. He passed away
some years ago. And you know
1136
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:55.000
Kim Cattrelle, of course, you
know back then she was doing her thing.
1137
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:58.319
So I give it one garbage can, and it's like a it could
1138
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.039
almost not even get a garbage can. It's it's pretty good. I would
1139
01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:02.840
actually say, go watch it.
You could see a lot worse. So,
1140
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:06.840
m Doc Diego, I appreciate your
suggestion. It's actually not that bad
1141
01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:10.560
of a movie. I think he
knew that. I think he wanted me
1142
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:15.479
to watch something that wasn't garbage,
So kudos to him. So split seconds.
1143
01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:19.520
One garbage can is a complete garbage. It's not it's just full of
1144
01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:24.119
water and you know, bad puns
throughout, but yeah, it's it's not
1145
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:27.319
bad. Go ahead and watch it
complete garbage. Hey, this is Jason
1146
01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:35.600
Warner Smith and you are listening to
Mark Jollis on Infinite Banter Banter. It's
1147
01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:41.199
hard for you to leave assholes.
That is Kirkosavado. Tell me it's time
1148
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.439
to go, and that it's exactly
what I'm going to do. Actually,
1149
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:45.840
he was on The Walking Dead.
Maybe some of you remember that he was
1150
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:49.079
on their very short but he had
a couple of memorable scenes during season four.
1151
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:56.039
Was when the Governor made his comeback. He came back to the prison
1152
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:58.600
and he was gonna take him out
finally and he got a new gang of
1153
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.680
thugs and kirk osoveto played. I
don't remember what his character's name was,
1154
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.359
but he was a guy in the
tank and he's a sitting in the tank
1155
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:08.359
and Rick's given a speech about how
they gonna live together and you know,
1156
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:12.039
kumbaya, and he's like time for
you leave, asshole, we want what
1157
01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:15.640
you got something like that. So
when I met Kirk at a convention,
1158
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:17.600
when he said that to me while
I was recording an interview with him,
1159
01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:20.000
and you go back and check out
that interview. I think it's like episode
1160
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:24.159
five or six, so a long
time ago back when these are do Walker
1161
01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:26.960
Stalker cons. I don't believe they
do those anymore. But yeah, it
1162
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:28.720
was a lot of fun talk with
him. I knew when he said that.
1163
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:30.960
I'm like, I'm gonna find a
way to use that, and I've
1164
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.840
been using it ever since, So
it is time for me to leave me
1165
01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:38.119
being the asshole. Thanks again to
carry Kay Hill and Theoda's Crane. There's
1166
01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:40.920
a lot of fun talk went down
about The Walking Dead and much much more
1167
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:44.520
to spinoffs are coming. You got
the Maggie and Nigan Dead City show,
1168
01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:46.439
Daryl goes out to Paris, I
think it's called Daryl Dixon, and then
1169
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:48.960
the Rick and Machone show, and
I'm sure there's gonna be some other stuff
1170
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.880
sprinkled in there. And Fear The
Walking Dead is coming back next month.
1171
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:56.399
There's a lot of content that the
flagship show might be done, but the
1172
01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.880
series and everything connected to it.
The world is still still go on and
1173
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:02.880
there's gonna be a lot more content. So definitely can't wait to see some
1174
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.000
of these shows and maybe talk about
them on here. And make sure you
1175
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.920
follow Carry and THEO online, check
out what they're doing, and look for
1176
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:14.119
their short film and check out Theo's
EP, Monster Monster on Spotify. All
1177
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:16.359
right, Dad said for me The
Infinite Banter podcast. You can find out
1178
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:20.359
on all platforms. Follow the show
on social media at Infinite Banter Podcast.
1179
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:26.760
Go on YouTube, type in Infinite
Banter from clips from past guests, rate
1180
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:30.439
and review the show. Do the
Spotify poll the questions that I have on
1181
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.039
there. Thanks so much everybody for
listening to the show. The next episode
1182
01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:36.880
will be one hundred and fifty,
and go check out Split Second Is.
1183
01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:42.880
I'm using this word very loosely the
best movie I've seen for the Infinite Torture
1184
01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:45.000
segment. Everything else pretty much has
been hard to watch. This one wasn't
1185
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:47.359
that bad. I didn't mind it, But of course I'm a fan of
1186
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.680
Blade Runner and Angel Hearts and movies
that are very similar to this, so
1187
01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:54.359
it wasn't it hard to get me
on board. So shout out to m
1188
01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:58.000
Doc Diego for suggesting it. Now
I gotta get back and watch some real
1189
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:01.359
shit. I need a real dog
shit movie to watch next to get back
1190
01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:05.079
on track. All Right, that's
it for me. Thanks to Carry and
1191
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:09.520
THEO for coming on the show,
big thrill. Heavn on Walking Dead actors.
1192
01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:13.000
They've always been so gracious and I
got nothing but mad salute for both
1193
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:15.840
of them, and everybody's been on
before. So I do another one of
1194
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:18.199
these, which will be one hundred
and fifty. I can kick. I'm
1195
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:44.319
one fifty. I'm out hey as
I'll get up the road. Being the
1196
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:46.760
infinite banner with my man Mark has
been a pleasure.
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Here. It is another episode of
the Infinite Advantage podcast What Is Going On?
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My name is Mark Jolo, also
known as DJ sound Wave and as
3
00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.679
Luke Temple once called me DJ Boombox. Thanks for checking out the show.
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Big up to my last guests,
g Mills and Raw Leaf. Their new
5
00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:51.640
album Mask Covered Faces is out right
now, and definitely go check out that
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00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:54.880
episode. Will play flashback later on, but definitely had a good time talking
7
00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:58.600
with those guys and being reintroduced to
the cartoon Mask, which I have not
8
00:00:58.679 --> 00:01:02.359
watched in like thirty son than years, so they're pretty cool. It's on
9
00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:06.200
Pluto and TB TV if anybody out
there wants to watch it. Big salute
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00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.560
to those guys today's show. I'm
really hyped for this song. So another
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dual guest show. Everybody listening knows
I'm a huge fan of The Walking Dead.
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I mean I've been watching that show
since it started, big fan of
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it. Even as it's you know, winded down, you know, it's
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still there. I'm still watching it
all the time. I'm watching the spinoffs
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everything else. So I'm definitely a
big fan of the show. And I
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was really hyped to get Carrie kay
Hill and Theotis Crane on the show today.
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Carrie Kayhill plays Diane. You've seen
her in season seven through eleven.
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She's the bow and arrow wielder from
the Kingdom. And Theiotis Crane you might
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remember from the Prison Gang in season
three. He's one of the guys living
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in the prison when Rick and the
Gang show up. And it's really cool
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talking to both of them, and
we'll get into that in a little bit,
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So stay tuned for my interviews with
Thiotis Crane and Carrie Kayhill talking about
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the Walking Dead and much much more. A lot of fun talking to both
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to him was a real big thrill. This is episode one forty nine.
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By the way, I'm almost at
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I can't believe how fast this is
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So thanks everybody's been part of this
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celebrate, I've got an Infinite Torture
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movie Split Seconds, and I'm gonna
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stay tuned for the back half of
the show to the Infinite Torture segment about
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the movie Split Second with Rutger Howerd
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did I actually like it? Stay
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Faces. And here's a clip from
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was like an admist of the Paradimmon. You know, every bodyline way and
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be dopeful. We call it mask
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happy at that time, so it
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previous after afternoon before that was right, so we had to personal show to
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it exactly. It just was like
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definitely go back and check out that
episode with g Mills and raw Leaf had
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a lot of fun talking about their
album, Mass Covered Faces. You can
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find at all streaming platforms definitely check
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I'll do something different, or I'll
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gets a regular episode and the number
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It's It's it's episode another but a
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that means. All right, So
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you can. All Right, let's
get into it. Kerrie k Hill and
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Theoda's Craning from The Walking Dead are
here to talk about their careers and how
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they got started in acting and much
much more. They got a short film
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coming out, and we've also got
an infinite torture segment coming up for the
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movie Split Seconds. But before we
do any of that, the show never
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begins. To the one and only
the Devastating Might Controller DMC comes on.
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He says this, and the show
begins. Yo, yo, what's up?
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This is me m C to K, I and G the greatest MC
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and history read. And right now
you're listening to Infinite Bitter because we will
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banter on forever, because this is
the only place for all of y'all to
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ever be. I be infinite bit. You're tuned into the Infinite Banter Podcast.
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I am Mark Chellafe and I'm really
excited to be joined by two guests.
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You've seen them both on The Walking
Dead. Theotis Crane, who played
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Big Tiny in season three and movies
like Underground and The Bagman and Carrie Kane
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Hill, who played Diane from season
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Free State of Jones and Terminator Genesis. Welcome to the show, theotis Crane
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and Carrie k Hill. What's up? Guys? Hi, I am hysterically
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peeling potatoes while we talk. That's
the best thing to be doing. That's
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the first. How about you the
are you doing something with food in the
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background too? Or oh no,
I'm I'm actually driving. Okay, yeah
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you can't that. You can't do
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Yeah, before or washing potatoes,
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doubt. Well, things are coming
on the show, guys, big Walking
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Dead fan, And just to let
people know about you know, where you
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guys started? You know, what
was both of your origin story in doing
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acting and care if you want to
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I moved a lot growing up.
Um so I'm not really from anywhere.
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anyway, Like my dad would joke
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know how some kids can be shy, and some people are like walking in
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the middle of a dance floor.
I was the kid that was like walking
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into the middle of the dance floor. But the story I actually always tell
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as there was this moment where my
mom got and I was in very small
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towns in the West. So if
you can imagine a town of two hundred
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people, that is the town I
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So like the Kingdom kind of,
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only not as well adjusted. The
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It's eastern Oregon and it's a little
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was on the karaoke machine and I
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like some fundraiser my mom was going
to do for the school or something,
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and I was like making voices and
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accents, and I my whole family
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vivid memory of me going, oh
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I was like ooh, Like they
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was like making them laugh, and
I was like the microphone was in my
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hand and I was like, I
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did theater every single place we moved. And then it's the thing. Now
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I tell people, I go,
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know what else I would do,
Like, I have no idea. You
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knew it taught you right away,
Yet that feeling. Yeah, it could
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have went the other way, right, you could have gotten the bad reaction
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and it would have scared off.
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They could have been like, you're
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like, I'm never doing this again. That is not what happening. And
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then like yeah, and then you
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film in New Orleans and my professors
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stuff happened. Oh that's awesome.
Yeah, And how about you, Theodis
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that anything happened with you? Going
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the acting and getting into the business. Well, I got the a little
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late. I've always been a performer, but my perform anything was always regal
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arts. I thought I was going
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I was always church playing. I
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of stuff. But it was until
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and I got into that because I
was supposed to play the cello in
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the orchestra. But when I went
to meet the guy producing it, he
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asked quin and a little bit,
you know, and so like it was
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a producer of Jesus Christ Superstar.
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and uh, then one day he
called me, hey, like, hey,
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there's a production of Hair that I
think you should auditional. And the
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the play pay for week exactly as
much as I was away making at that
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time, which meant no matter what
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my apartment. So I decided to
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musical theater audition, so I had
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Salty Balls, so soft part and
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that run and it was a really
really good run, you know, it
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was like it was one of those
those situations where it's like the ideal first
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time in a profession kind of kind
of situation, like Okay, how do
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I do this again? How do
I have this feeling? And so I
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just kind of chased it. For
the next two years. I was doing
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whatever I could, so I haunted
houses all kinds whatever, you know what
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I mean? And uh, and
then I moved in New Orleans and I
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got into the Friend Fast Year and
that was the first time anybody casting me
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as a lead in anything. And
then I found out about the film and
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TV in New Orleans and I just
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then you know, same thing,
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more going on, get a manager, bumped your way up, and next
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thing I know, I'm hearing you
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song from South Park the same again, thinking that you've done that. Did
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you do it like a like a
funny voice, or just try to belt
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it out like yours? I think
it's interly. I sang it. It's
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my karaoke song, you know what
I mean. It was like my first
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karaoke off. I've noticing a trend
here. Karaoke is the theme for both
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of you guys. That's where it
starts. Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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I think everybody's that's into performing like
karaoke. That's my kids probably. I
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have a one of my neighbors,
her son is about four, and on
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Sunday mornings, him and his dad
do like karaoke time together, but but
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he raps, and so you hear
this little four year old being like yeah,
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oh yeah, is the best way
to wake up ever. It's the
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cutest thing. And I'm always like, oh god, we have a future
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start nextor like I can just tell
you right now, Like he's like yeah,
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I'm like, oh, it's adorable. That's why I never got ato
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karaoke because I like hip hop music
and it's not really something you can do
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that for you know. It's like
they don't have redom C or El COOLJ
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on the karaoke so I'm just not
gonna participate. That's how I always was.
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Well, it's also not as I
think it used to be like this,
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where not everybody could There weren't enough
people who could even do those songs
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correct, Like rapping is hard,
right, oh yes, And now there
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are more people who are able to
like karaoke that in quote unquote right right,
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yeah, some people definitely yeah,
right right, that's awesome. So
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karaoke kind of is in the backdrop
for both of you guys as far as
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getting into acting and catching the bag
and and for both of you, then
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how did you both get into Walking
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you guys started to how you ended
up in the Walking Dead series. I'll
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let Fee you go first, because
he was on the show first. Uh
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well, I M I suspect they
already knew what they were looking for,
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and so I don't think the pool
was as deep because like my characters kind
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of a specialty character, you know
what I mean, Like there's certain dimensions
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you can't get around, and so
I kind of I kind of feel like
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it was just like getting what out
of myself and my co Starns that were
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in those episodes with um and so
I got an audition, ain't up practice
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and reporters in it, and and
I think it took maybe two weeks to
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find out I got it, no
call back, none of that, you
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know what I mean, which is
very uncommon, especially I don't know how
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all of the processes for other people, So I can't say if standard practice,
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but like it doesn't happen very very
often. Yeah, yeah, that
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makes sense because your character's name is
big Tiny, so obviously, like you
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said, they were looking for a
specific look. You know, obviously a
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size, right, you know,
a little kind of thing, so you
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kind of fit that maybe that's why
it wasn't a traditional like callback like you
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said, and the way you got
informed about it. Yeah, like I've
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been in la in a room with
pretty much all the guys type it's about
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thirty of it look like a battle
royal is something? Probably I said it
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kind of felt that way in that
moment. That's funny and you carry So
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basically, this was like the eighth
or ninth time I had auditioned for The
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Walking Dead, And if you're an
actor, you know this is this is
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common, right, Like I have
auditioned for some shows like fifteen times,
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and so this was one of those
auditions where and of course it's fake sides,
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so you have to kind of guess
and figure out what part of the
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show and all this. But of
course the Kingdom wasn't on the show yet,
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so I couldn't figure it. So
basically I just did the best I
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could in terms of like making choices
and like making decisions that were all,
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you know, based on the three
pages, right. But I auditioned for
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Gavin, which they were considering pop
possibly a female role, and basically what
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I found out later and I don't
know if this is true, So you
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would probably have to get direct from
Scott Ginvel, but he kind of kept
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a stock of headshots and stuff and
people like on his like little desk somewhere
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that was like, oh, people, I have seen an auditions and I
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liked. So when I got the
offer, the only thing I knew is
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I didn't get Gavin, but I
got a role. And so it wasn't
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until I was traveling. So mine
was really fast I did. It wasn't
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two weeks, There was no callback. It was like two or three days
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and they called and they were like, hey, so can you travel Monday?
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And it was like Friday, and
like what? I was like,
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what is happening? And then I'm
talking to like the travel coordinator in the
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office and I said, can I
ask you a question? And she goes
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yeah. I was like, what
is my character's name? Because I didn't
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like they hadn't told me yet,
because they hadn't released the script. There
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were things because in fairness, like
you have to sign a lot of things
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to make sure there's a nondisclosure and
all these things right, and they try
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to keep it very secret because a
lot of people reveal spoilers, and so
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I was like and she's like,
oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
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I'm like That's when I was like, oh, Diane great. And then
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I went to Researcher and of course
she doesn't exist in the comics. She's
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what they call a composite character,
right, So like it was just shy
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cirical because everything kept happening and it
was all new. Like I got to
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set and they're like, oh,
you're you get a bow and I was
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like, I get a bow?
What I get it? Okay, sure,
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yeah, I'll shoot that right now. And luckily I had done some
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archery before, but now I'm really
into it. But it was like,
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you know, it's always just like
a mad rush. You know, that's
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interesting. So yeah, I was
going to ask me if if Archer was
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even brought up at all, like
if it was just something oh, by
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the way you get here and like, oh, yeah, learn how to
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do this. They did not ask
me anything. It was that happens a
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lot though. I was in Logan
and I am the State Trooper and the
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deleted scene they released where he gets
pulled over, well, that car is
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like it's an amazing car. It's
like a Dodge charger. It's ramped up
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it's got like a B eight.
It's a stick shift. Wow. No
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one ever asked me if I could
drive one. Oh man. And I
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like, as we're walking towards the
car the day before I start filming,
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the prop guy like the guy in
charge of the car won't look me in
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the eye and he's like, we
just want to we just want you to
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practice in this, and I was
like, what's going on? And then
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I finally go oh as I see
the car because it's just big police Dodge
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shargar, and I was like,
I can drive a stick shift. And
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he goes, oh, thank god, because we didn't know they were going
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to give us a stick shift and
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and this. And then I got
in and he's like, thank you.
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So my tip to actors is learn
how to drive stick shift. Oh my
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god, I have no idea.
Yeah, well, yea passport and learn
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how to drive a stick check.
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out. You wouldn't even know what
was happening. Oh no, they would
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have like it would have been harder
to shoot because like they would have had
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to have a stunt driver and I
would have had to like get in the
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car and had to pause and like
it would have been a whole thing.
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Yeah, that's pretty cool. It
sounds like, you know, for both
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of you, it's a matter of
like adapting. Sometimes on the spot it's
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like you've gotten apart and it's like
they're kind of throwing some things at you
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that maybe you weren't prepared for.
But it's all about well improvising and getting
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ready to do it and figuring it
out. And it sounds like you both
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have done well with that. Yeah, that was actually a So my whole
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time on Underground was a lot like
that. Um, I went into that
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situation with very little information. It
was I think I was I think I
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was a recash. I never actually
thought to ask, but like in this
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moment, I think I was a
recash. So everything happened really quick.
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Um, that show was about sprinting. Like I lost so much weight on
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that show. It's amazing. I'm
guessing right, So, oh my god,
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it was amazing. Um And so
like now I couldn't do it because
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I can't run anymore. But like
going in there was a few things.
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It was like, um, my
character had to shot wood. I've remever
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shot wood in my life. You
know what I mean. Right, Still,
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there's there are a few things that
I had to kind of learn on
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the spot, and so that that
lets me know kind of what character what
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Carrison before, Like let's start building
up skills just like just learn stuff like
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precy things that you want to do, like oh, I want to be
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either the archery person to get into
the archery thus in. Yeah. Yeah,
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well now you've got a lumberjack in
an archer here. See you know
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before years Mack, he couldn't have
said that. So there you go ar
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a couple of archers. I could
I want to I want to play an
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archer on chase me. Yeah.
Right, you need another green arrow or
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you know, a hawkeye or something, right, so here we go.
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That's a giant arrow or something,
but giant big bow. Oh yeah,
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there you go. And you know
carry you had brought up Gavin so on
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my show before. I've had Jason
Warner Smith and Joshua Michael who you worked
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with during season seven and season eight
and then THEO. I've had m Lou
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Temple and Vincent and Ward on here
before. So perfect for both of you
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guys, because they were awesome.
I couldn't be more you know, honored
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to have all four of them on
here. And I'll ask you Carrie first,
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about working with Jason and Joshua.
I mean, Joshua's character was so
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unlikable, but he was He's an
awesome guy, but you really hated him
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as a fan. And then Jason
Warners, who I told him he felt
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like a guy who was just kind
of like he hated his job, but
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he had the show up every day
and just do it. And uh,
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what was it like working with those
two? And of course you thought maybe
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Gavin would have been somebody you would
have played U. Well, what I
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always love about like actors like Joshua
and Jason. I was like, wait,
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they're both Jays, They're not both
josh Is. They're they're like veteran
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actors. And when I say that, what I mean is like they've been
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on multiple sets, they've done a
lot, and they show up already.
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And so those first two years for
me and Walking Dead were always so fun
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because like, you can have more
fun when everybody's prepared, you know,
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and so like and of course you
gotta work with like it's gotta be nice
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people because it's hot, that ashphalt
is hot. Those parking lot scenes.
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I mean, we were sweating buckets, you know, and that the favorite
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part of it really is though that
Jason and Josh are just really funny and
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really nice. And Josh particularly is
like I don't think he would even like
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I don't think he would ever hit
anyone in his real life, like ever,
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Like I'm sure if someone in his
family was getting hurt or something,
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but like he is just the most
kind, calm and he plays that guy
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so well. That's the best part
of actually working with actors. Sometimes it's
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just like the dichotomy of all that
and like when you break and you get
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to go and like hang out and
you know. And it was really lovely
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too because the only I didn't meet
Andy for two years because because I wasn't
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the show, I didn't I didn't
meet any of the main people I was
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hanging out with, like Melissa,
Lenny the Kingdom and Josh and Jason,
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and we were having a blast,
you know, and it was it was
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like really interesting to like when I
finally got on set with everybody, I
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was like, oh God, this
is actually kind of really intimidating because I
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don't really so I got quieter because
I was like, uh, now I
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feel socially awkward and I like went
back to middle school. Yeah, I've
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been here for two years, but
I feel like I'm the new kid now
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exactly because I was like, who
what h I don't know all these people
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anymore. Yeah, they'll talk about
working with lou and m Vincent and Ward.
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I mean those guys were a trip
when I had him on and part
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of that that prison gang. You
know, you guys had a little click
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there you first introduced on the show. So on the show they were so
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it was kind of a thing they
were. They were the vig you know,
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they had done a bunch of stuff
that you know, been on a
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bout less. They were coming from
LA and there's always uh well they were.
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Especially back then there was kind of
this thing about with the Whorlands actors
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people from LA coming and like,
oh man, like what's it like there
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where you got? You know?
So because I was still pretty new it
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to it, uh at that point. Um, But really it wasn't until
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afterwards and we started doing conventions and
I really got to like hang out with
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them and like uh spend time and
and like really get to know them and
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like to be in situations with them, and I really got to appreciate their
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friendship, UM and like the information
they had to share, you know,
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just being in the life situations as
they were. It's been really great knowing
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them and and everything everybody in Marquees
and and UM and Nick. You know,
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we really have this kind of bonded
over this experience. We didn't have
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as much time as UH as Curry
did, but like, UH, we
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we got that experience after to kind
of give us the bonding time. And
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so UH even now, you know, I came, I went to LA
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for a premiere and you know,
went and hung out with UH, with
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Vincent and went to the to the
the stunt track while the stunt guys practice
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and stuff and like hut and you
know got to like and that's that's really
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great to have UH in this industry, like people that are your actual friends
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and and like people that you can
you can call for something other than work,
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you know what I mean. And
I bet for both of you alcome
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dead. It's such a vast not
just not just the actress, but the
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crew and people behind the scenes that
it's been out so long, it's hard
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for everybody not to know somebody on
the show. Ye some worked somewhere.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, for
sure. I still um, Like I
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haven't seen him in quite some time, but like every time I saw Gregna
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Cantaro he remembered me. That shot
the shit out of me because like we
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spent some time together, but not
a ton. But Greg is that guy,
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like that's he's just I love him, love him. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, I think it's perfect that
he's that guy. There you go.
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And speaking of Greg, so you
know, obviously THEO your character didn't
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get to turn. He unfortunately died
in a gruesome that's a brutal scene by
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the way, and you never got
to do the zombie makeup and carry your
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character is still going. So you
never got to do the zombie makeup,
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do either one of you kind of
wish you had that moment obviously, care
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you don't want to die on the
show. But yeah, I wish I
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was a zombie hundred Oh my god, Like they had the stuff to make
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the bast in and that was a
whole half of my body. Oh my
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god. Yeah, I just want
to see it, you know what I
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mean, Like that's an image.
Yeah. I came up with my last
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line if I ever died right before
I would turn And I told Greg and
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Denise, one of our producers,
and I said, note, this has
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to be and I won't tell you
because I really I do maybe they'll bring
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me back. But I did always
think I was going to die because I'm
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I'm not a series regular and I'm
but I'm on enough that people know me.
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So I'm one of those characters that
if you're in a writer's room,
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I a mid season death. I'm
just I've known enough by the audience that
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it would matter, and so I
just kind of assumed that. I was
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like, Wow, I mean I
might do this for like three or four
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years, but I mean eventually I
will be in mid season death. Like
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I just assume, you know,
And it just never happened. And I
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just kept going. I think like
like I could, like I would go
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onto it and look at like the
producers and the like next episode, huh,
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it's gonna happen, and They're like, Carrie, we we don't know.
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And I was like, you don't
know, and it just never happened.
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I was like really like and I
was always surprised. I really still
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to this day. I'm like,
how like when I got called to film
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the last episodes. I literally was
like, oh, yeah, they're gonna
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kill me. They need to kill
some people, like it'll be fine.
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And I was excited actually because I
was like, look it to the end.
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I'll be happy whatever. I've been
on this long and I and they
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don't, you know, particularly with
the way the comic book characters work,
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there's no real place for Diane to
kind of go unless they totally do a
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whole offshoot like with Norman. Right, But like I was like, it's
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okay. And then of course I
lived and I was like how alive?
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Like I just yeah, but I'm
also like confused. I want to tell
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you that stress is real, that
that when I know it's coming, you're
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gonna kill me, final whatever.
Because I had the opposite spirit. I
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died first, and it was like
the stage of the grief, you know,
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like there is so much denial,
like no, no, no,
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no, no no no no,
because like I think read the script as
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fast as everyone else. I think
I was doing. I forget what else
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I was doing, but uh my
trailer and was like, oh man,
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I'm really sorry. We are you
sorry for? What are you talking about?
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But I remember hearing other people talk
about it's like, I know it's
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coming. I know it's coming at
some point. It's just gonna like it's
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it's it's it's inevitable. It's gonna
kill them. They kill everybody because they
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kill everybody. Yeah, oh that's
so brutal. But we don't want carry
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you don't want your character to ever
die. But now I really want to
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hear this line, So I'm I
know, well, I know that silly,
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it's silly and small, but I
really want to. Yeah, I
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have it. It's in my head. I will pitch it the day I
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00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:30.640
die, if I die, or
if they bring me back. You know,
417
00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:34.000
they've got all these different spins where
they're relocating, so there's no reason,
418
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.279
there's no necessarily belief that Dianne would
follow anybody either, you know who
419
00:27:37.319 --> 00:27:41.559
knows? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you brought up the spins,
420
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.000
and I was gonna bring that up
as an idea too, because I've always
421
00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.720
wanted, like Theodis, I always
wanted to a prison like origin story,
422
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.559
like the day that shit went down
in the prison. I would love to
423
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:55.640
see like at least a one episode
of the Before enduring you guys going into
424
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:59.000
the pantry or whatever. Has that
ever been talked about? I would love
425
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:00.319
to see that. And then of
course a Diane origin story, you know,
426
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.880
her picking up a boat for the
first time or whatever. I would
427
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.799
love to see stories like that.
Yeah, we talked about it when they
428
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.240
were doing the one shot, um, like the like the group was like
429
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:15.519
whenever something happens, like one of
those guys action figures and so like I
430
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:22.039
think a group chat or something before
it was popular. But uh, but
431
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:23.160
when they were doing one side,
so it was like, yeah, that
432
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.359
would be really go because somebody asked
the questions similar to that. Um,
433
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:32.640
I would I would love to like
this because it's such a vivid story to
434
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:37.039
go in the show of like how
it went down. Um, I would
435
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:38.599
just love to see it myself.
I mean, it's similar to Rick because
436
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.200
Rick didn't know what's going on to
he woke up and you guys are inside
437
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.079
of a prison, no idea what's
happening in the outside world. And then
438
00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:47.319
when Rick and the gang show up, you guys are like, yeah,
439
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:48.640
can I call my my mom or
whatever? It's like, no, you
440
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:53.640
don't understand. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, yeah, it'd have been
441
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.000
a cool It would be cool idea. I hope they'd somehow do that,
442
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.880
and like I said, for a
Diane's character, that'd be pretty cool to
443
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:04.359
see you. I have a backstory
written actually like a full filmable thing,
444
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.759
and I said, like, yeah, I've shared it with Cooper who plays
445
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:14.200
Jerry Um and Okay, who is
also on the I've shared it with them.
446
00:29:14.319 --> 00:29:18.599
But it's really I'm known for being
very very very dark, like like
447
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.559
I will go like I don't go
to the gut or I go to like
448
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:25.480
the abyss of like hell. And
I'm like, let's talk about that,
449
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.519
and everyone's like, Carrie, that's
really can we uh? And I'm like
450
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:30.000
no, let's just let's come on, let's bring this out in video.
451
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:40.920
And Theo's laughing because he knows because
because I do this. Yeah, But
452
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.759
like so I wrote this like really, and I hope someday it gets seen
453
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.319
somewhere as some idea but we'll see. But like, yeah, yeah,
454
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:51.759
because there's what I always did is
I figured the thing as an actor that
455
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:53.960
I had to come up with the
job for was Diane's really capable? So
456
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:59.000
why doesn't she lead? And she
doesn't really say much, which I actually
457
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.279
I will say, like I I
think there can be mixed, like,
458
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.960
there are times where I wish they
could have written more for her, but
459
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.799
I do. I do like that
they don't make her sentimental and they don't
460
00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:11.480
make her like a monologist and something
like not everybody does that. You know,
461
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.559
it's not reasonable to expect everybody in
the Apocalypse to be like Rick,
462
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.960
That's not what everyone's gonna do,
you know everybody? So yeah, right,
463
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:23.519
exactly, you know, and so
but I basically had to write a
464
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.599
story that was dark enough that was
like, oh, that's why she doesn't
465
00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.839
want to talk to anybody. That's
like, yeah, yeah, I mean
466
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:33.599
and for a long time. Daryl's
that character didn't talk much either for the
467
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.640
first few seasons, so and he
was kind of looked at as like one
468
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.079
of the strongest characters on the on
the show. So yeah, it doesn't
469
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:42.839
the loudest person isn't always the one
I want to watch, you know who
470
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.559
get Nikan for instance, there there's
a love hate with him, of course,
471
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.880
so right, right, yeah,
go to that dark place because it
472
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:53.039
is a walking dead. So yeah, I was talking to Dan Ogel once
473
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.680
and this was right before they filmed
his h and his last scene in the
474
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.240
finale. I don't want to spoil
it if someone hasn't wanted to yet.
475
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.480
But I basically like was I gave
him like a paragraph of like just like
476
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:08.519
dark things to think about, and
she's face changed and Cary paid when Cary
477
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:11.240
was like, what did she say
to you? What did she do?
478
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:12.359
Dan? What did she do?
And I was like no, I was
479
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.640
just talking about that because I just
like, we'll do that. I'll be
480
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.559
like and it's like, yeah,
it's terrible, it's not good for radio,
481
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:22.880
So I'm not gonna it's okay.
What was on that karaoke playlist?
482
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:23.920
At your pick? What's songs?
Right? I'm trying to think of what.
483
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:29.640
Well the thing is like, I
just I had a really quirky dad
484
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.079
and so like I watched Doctor Chicago
and I was like eight, oh wow,
485
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:34.720
And I watched things like that where
like I would be like what happened
486
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.960
and he'd be like, well,
they're burying the baby off of the train
487
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.240
because it died. And I was
like, okay, dad, thank you.
488
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:41.680
And I just got and he was
in the army and he was a
489
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.599
medic and he was a ka and
I got stitches at home. So there
490
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.000
was just like there was not sheltered
at all. So yeah, I was
491
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:52.160
just back hid and so I've grown
up to be this person now. Yeah,
492
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.359
no, it makes sense. I
have a three year old daughter and
493
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.720
she knows Jason voorheeses and that's my
fault. But she's not scared of him.
494
00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:02.920
And that's a problem. Right,
I'm doing a bad is it.
495
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.799
I mean, we're trying to build
build a resilient youth, you know.
496
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.119
I'm like, you know, and
it's about what the kid is, right,
497
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:14.799
if the kid's really scared and worried, the check but like, yeah,
498
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:16.599
your kid's fine. Yah. Yeah, she thinks it's like a bald
499
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:21.079
baby with you know, with the
because we want what it's like a around
500
00:32:21.119 --> 00:32:22.519
Halloween is like a walking one and
he moves around, he does. He
501
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:28.799
does look like a baby with a
mask. So no idea. Yeah,
502
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:30.279
I'm in trouble. Yeah, she
gets older, like dad, you you
503
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.079
told me about this, Like oh
all right, yeah that's on me.
504
00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:37.960
Yeah, I want to watch Walking
Dead now are you ready? Yeah?
505
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.240
That's awesome. Yeah. With the
oldis you actually worked at Andrew Lincoln and
506
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.079
normal read is right off the bat, unlike Carrie, who took some time
507
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.000
to get to meet some characters.
Talk about that experience working with those two.
508
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.720
I'll tell you about the most embarrassing
thing I did. Um. Anyway,
509
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:57.559
we're about the film one of the
scenes in the hallways corridor or whatever,
510
00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:00.799
and so we're kind of crowded down
behind this little false ball and I
511
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:05.839
don't know what struck me. Again, this was pretty early into my career.
512
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.039
So I just stopped and asked him, like, like Andy, like,
513
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:15.640
hey, man, where are you
from? He answered me, but
514
00:33:15.720 --> 00:33:22.839
he answered me, and he never
spoke outside, and I thought he was
515
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:24.640
fucking with me. You know.
It was like, if you want to
516
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:34.559
tell me, not to tell me. Oh my god. Like a year
517
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.759
or two later, heard his actual
speaking voice in an interview like, oh
518
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:47.039
my Godney. But they were the
nicest people man like um Like, So
519
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.960
there are a munch of people I
didn't get to work with as well,
520
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.640
and and so I was like,
uh, we were coming to lunch and
521
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:59.599
they were all at a table and
normally serious regulars sit with series of regulars
522
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:02.720
and the like hierarchies and camera people, and all the five of us walk
523
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:07.160
in and they're like, oh,
hey, come over, come over,
524
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.360
Hey see with us, see with
us. Never happened, Let's never happened.
525
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:14.079
It's high school. It's like straight
up clicked up. You find the
526
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.039
table, you make some friends,
you know what I mean. I know
527
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.920
there's this great rare that somebody was
like, hey, you know, let's
528
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:25.039
let's get to each other. And
that who'll always stand out to me that
529
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.559
was because that's the nicest thing you
can do. And also, like you
530
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.039
forget, they're filming in the middle
of like heat and they're there. Most
531
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:40.840
of their co star are extras.
Can so do friends are exciting to them
532
00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:46.760
to um? But yeah, they
were the nicest people, sharing all their
533
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:52.280
the wealth of their knowledge. And
uh, I got to work with herson
534
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:55.199
before he passed, and he was
straight up gangster man. So like it
535
00:34:55.320 --> 00:35:00.599
was, it was a great experience. Uh from my professional as well,
536
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:02.400
I'll say, like I learned so
much more about what it is to be
537
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:06.199
an actor. I'm working on that
show and care. Do you have any
538
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:08.079
takeaways from the show as a whole. Obviously you're still a cast member,
539
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:13.320
nothing's changed with that, but as
you look back on and think about,
540
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:17.519
because it's the series as a whole
is quote unquote finished. The flagship show
541
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:21.079
is right, right, how do
you how do you look back on your
542
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.719
time at The Walking Dead. Um, I I look at it very similar
543
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.679
to theo of like it was.
It was a bit of a greenhouse for
544
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:30.719
me. It's what I would call
it um in terms of having a long
545
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.400
term relationship with the crew, which
I know I always talk about the crew,
546
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.079
and so I think it weirds people
out because they want to know what
547
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.800
actor I liked working with. But
the truth is the people I work the
548
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:44.320
most with are the crew, Like
I know, you know, they're the
549
00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:45.599
ones that like I got to look
at the camera guy and make sure I'm
550
00:35:45.599 --> 00:35:49.599
where I'm supposed to be and all
these things right. But I learned a
551
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:54.239
lot about like a stunt's action,
um long term, you know, storytelling.
552
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:58.199
All those things are things you get
off of being on a show like
553
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:02.079
that long term. And of course
also like Lenny James was who introduced me
554
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.639
to like the show when we were
on set, like and he is and
555
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.199
I will hang out with him every
day every day. He is an incredible
556
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:14.159
human being and was so kind and
Greg Nikotara was open to He's like ask
557
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.119
questions and so it was a very
great place to be like, hey,
558
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:21.679
do I need to slow this stab
down. Like I know that sounds silly,
559
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:23.639
but like you have to learn how
to do stunts to where they look
560
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.920
good on camera. You don't punch
someone on camera the way you punch someone
561
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.920
in real life. Like you just
don't do that. It doesn't work,
562
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.480
you know, This is what I
mean. Like I would say things like
563
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:37.119
well if you were really stabbing someone, and everyone's like carry and I was
564
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:42.400
like, okay, I'm gonna because
I don't. I'm never no, like
565
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.960
I'm a nice person most now I'm
kind and that nice, but like,
566
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.679
uh so, yeah, so it
was but that's for me. It was
567
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.519
very much that and and I got
a lot out of that and I learned
568
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:58.159
a lot, you know. And
I really didn't think anybody like I think
569
00:36:58.159 --> 00:37:00.679
I have two lines the first season
and seven and I really I was like,
570
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:02.920
ah, no one's going to really
know who she is and no one's
571
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:07.159
good at this. And like after
the first two or three episodes, I
572
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:08.960
was an aired. My Instagram following
kept getting higher, and I was like,
573
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.079
what are people see? I was
like, what's going on? And
574
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:17.000
then I was like, oh okay, And so that's an interesting thing too
575
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:21.920
from just a career standpoint of being
somebody that, like is I get recognized
576
00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:23.760
now, which is weird for me, Like I always think they're looking at
577
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:27.559
someone else. In the Bow and
Arrow help of course, you know,
578
00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.239
yeah, it's stand out, you
know weapon on the show. You know,
579
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.320
Darrel's got the crossbow, Rick's got
the cult gone right, So everybody's
580
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:37.440
got most of the main characters and
some of the side ones have that one
581
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:39.559
one thing that kind of makes them
standout in the Bow and Arrow. There
582
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:44.400
you go, It'll always be yeah, your signature. Yeah. And so
583
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:46.119
it was great. Yeah, and
I mean there's still like, you know,
584
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:50.599
it was exhausting, it was long. I got like I got a
585
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.599
tick walking through Alexandria one. I
mean, it's not always fun to do
586
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:58.800
the job, but it's always fun
to have done it, if that makes
587
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.519
sense, right. Yeah, it
looked hots just watching it for both of
588
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:05.960
you. I'm sure you guys dealt
with some real hot days down there in
589
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.440
Georgia. Yeah. Well, and
thankfully I don't know about THEO, but
590
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:12.360
I've lived in New Orleans since two
thousands, so I was really used to
591
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.599
that because it is hard to get
used to if you're not from that climate,
592
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:17.199
you know, Oh. Yeah,
I'm from Atlanta, so that was
593
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:23.239
it was trying. Yeah, I'm
in Chicago and it's eighty degrees here and
594
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.519
I'm like, what the hell is
happening? It is two day. I'm
595
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:31.840
hots man, it's just not for
us. We don't get spring because I
596
00:38:31.840 --> 00:38:35.599
saw it's gonna snow on Monday.
So it's like I'm wearing shorts and I
597
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.440
don't got to find my hat and
gloves. Again, this is ridiculous.
598
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:42.079
Oh it's yeah, it's nuts.
You guys will come up here before you
599
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.559
guys talk about conventions and stuff.
Have you been to like Walker Stalker or
600
00:38:45.639 --> 00:38:49.760
Chicago conventions or any other ones?
No, never made it Chicago for that.
601
00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.039
I've only been to visits family and
it was only in the summertime,
602
00:38:52.280 --> 00:39:00.079
so gotcha. And that was on
purpose. I lived on the South Side
603
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:04.440
for a year and uh yeah,
in two thousand and eight and nine,
604
00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:06.559
I lived on the South Now in
a way, Diana is tough. That's
605
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.480
that's where you got that from.
Yeah, yeah, well I also lived
606
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:13.719
in a Sicilian neighborhood, which apparently
you still get crapped for being Irish there,
607
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:16.280
which I did. I was like
just matters and I and I'm from
608
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:20.639
Montana, like I'm American, like
let's be But I was like, Okay,
609
00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:24.199
it was a really interesting slice of
Chicago because it's not the Chicago that
610
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:29.119
is like sweet and funny, if
that makes sense, Like the Sicilian neighborhoods
611
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:34.039
are like they've got some stuff going
on, and I'm going to say about
612
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.519
it. Yeah, right, A
bunch of the food was right, so
613
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:37.880
that that's a big that's a big
part of it. Still good. Yeah,
614
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.440
God I missed Giardi Era. We
don't play out here, no,
615
00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:45.519
no, Yeah. And I could
walk to Chinatown. That was the other
616
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:51.039
thing. I was in that area, Okay. I was right by Kamiski
617
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.239
and I was like, oh it
was great. I love that area.
618
00:39:53.440 --> 00:40:02.320
Yeah, say Kaminsky if you do
by Kaminsky Field Kemiskey, per yep,
619
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:07.000
those guys you bold about the Walking
Dead as far as like obviously probably open
620
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:08.519
up a lot of doors for you
guys. But does it also have like
621
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:12.480
a thing where kind of typecast you
into that genre where you've got to do
622
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:15.400
horror movies or horror shows. Is
there like a pro and con to it?
623
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.360
Um? I think I think everything
in life has a pro and con.
624
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:23.400
So I'll say that out there you
go. But what I will say
625
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:27.880
is what I have found from my
careers. I'm starting to play more villains,
626
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.559
Like I've done a couple of Bloomhouse
pictures where I'm like, I am
627
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:36.119
not a nice person, and I
love it. I love it. And
628
00:40:36.159 --> 00:40:39.719
so what it really does on some
level is like if you think about the
629
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:44.559
film world as a radar and you
think about altitude, like once you're on
630
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:47.159
a show like The Walking Dead that
has the global audience, it does it
631
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:51.599
gives you you You go up a
level in terms of on other people's radar,
632
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:53.920
and so whatever you did in that
show is what they're going to notice
633
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:58.400
you for. And that's probably where
the next door is going to open um.
634
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:00.400
So like, and some of it
also is just by a circumstance,
635
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:02.880
right, Like I live in New
Orleans, so I am up for a
636
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.119
lot more movies here than I am
in Chicago because they're going to try to
637
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.079
cast local for some parts rather than
you know, flying someone in all that
638
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.480
stuff. And I had a character
that, like, you know, I
639
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:17.559
think it's harder if you're one of
the main people because that's what your face
640
00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.320
is associated with, you know,
And so you have to. I think
641
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:27.079
I think it depends on how much
of a type people now think you are
642
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:29.519
and what that means and all those
things. Like I can never see Robert
643
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.559
England doing a comedy. You'll always
be Freddy Krueger or something like that.
644
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:37.119
Yeah, that makes sense, right, Like like I think of George Costanza
645
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.719
and he does a lot of like
you know, after Steinfeld. To combat
646
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:45.360
that image or to be somebody other
than that character, you know, that
647
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.079
takes like chances and specific decisions about
your career, you know, right,
648
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:52.119
yeah, yeah, And like life, you know what I mean? Like,
649
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:57.159
uh, for for me, like
for sure a lot there's a lot
650
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:05.480
of stuff happening in my life after
after Walking Dead, Like I lost one
651
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.119
hundred and forty problems in the summer
and so I got Cat Secretly after that,
652
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:20.320
I for sure spent in audition and
the thought he was bigger, So
653
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:22.719
you know that'll do it too,
And just like whatever's going on, and
654
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:28.400
just like the evan flow of life
along with the evan flow of the industry.
655
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:32.400
Um. I have to say,
though, um, I've been very
656
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.559
fortunate in that regard. I've gotten
even the stuff that I didn't book has
657
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:43.559
been so interesting, you know,
um, whether the roles are similar or
658
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:49.000
not. It's like it's very very
rarely because of my size and because of
659
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:53.440
like my physical presence has very rarely
been like somebody who's not active. There
660
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:57.519
you go, and now you're medium
tiny as opposed to a big tiny right,
661
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:05.920
so right, okay, we're working
back to medium though. It's just
662
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.119
coming if the oldest. I got
to ask you about this EP. I've
663
00:43:09.239 --> 00:43:13.639
listened to it in Spotify, the
Monster Monster EP. This is crazy.
664
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.760
I love it. Man. It's
you know, there's a track called Dead
665
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:20.639
Homies. I'm a big ice cube
fancil so as I saw that, I
666
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.559
got to hear this track and talk
about that EP. And Carrie, have
667
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:27.519
you heard it? Are you familiar
with I have not. I need to
668
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:30.039
so. I'm also one of the
things I decided to do after Walking Dead
669
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:34.039
was I'm in grad school, and
so I spent a lot of time like
670
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:37.920
with my nose in a book thing
like and I'm like taking an agricultural economics
671
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.360
class right now. So I am
not as in the loop as I usually
672
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:45.639
am. I got something to do. Yeah, but I will say if
673
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:50.440
if I mean, I would assume
THEE it was great. Yes, it's
674
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:53.000
fun, you know, you know
what it is. Um, I was
675
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:59.320
in a dry period of my career
and I wanted to have some archistic control.
676
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.280
And so I have a friend that
I've known for my whole life that
677
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:08.000
is a musician and he was looking
for some kind of change artistically as well.
678
00:44:08.440 --> 00:44:10.280
So I like this in the music, let me see what I come
679
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:15.400
up with. And uh, we
just kept doing it. And we're still
680
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.599
doing it, you know what I
mean. It's it's a thing that I
681
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.360
enjoy doing. It doesn't it's I
don't have to do it, you know
682
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:23.840
what I mean. I can do
it at my leisure. I can do
683
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:27.280
it as much more, a little, as little as I like, and
684
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.679
I can do whatever I want.
I don't actually have an aspiration for it
685
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:36.719
professionally, like if people listen to
it and it becomes popular and fantastic,
686
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:38.840
but like, uh, it's kind
of not why I made it, which
687
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:45.400
is cliche as fuck, but right, but it's true. It's just like
688
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:51.079
I think your emailed anywhere. It's
like that artistic control. It's like I
689
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:52.559
write, and I have a ton
of plays that have written and all this
690
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:55.719
stuff, and I don't I'm starting
to get more into pushing and maybe publishing
691
00:44:55.719 --> 00:45:00.480
it like book or whatever. But
part of the reason I love is because
692
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:04.440
I don't have to depend on someone
to let me do it. Yeah yeah,
693
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:08.800
And you don't realize that you need
until you know, much like I
694
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:13.559
wish that was something people told us
early, like just start doing stuff.
695
00:45:14.519 --> 00:45:20.920
Yeah, so whoever, and just
start doing stuff yeah, otherwise will never
696
00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:22.840
happen, right, And you just
kind of wait. And it doesn't matter
697
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:25.480
if you're a millionaire because of it, because there is this thing now where
698
00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:28.400
people are like, oh, well, I don't know how to this or
699
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:30.000
I don't know how to do this, And I'm like, what if you
700
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:31.599
just did it because you enjoy it? Yeah, Like you don't have to
701
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:35.239
be the best singer, and you
don't have to be the best actor or
702
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:37.320
the best this or the best that. But if you enjoy it cares you
703
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:45.039
know what, Carrie, you don't
even have to be good, you do
704
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:52.039
not. Really, that's true.
I've been I've been screaming up from the
705
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.239
volant top lately because, like I
have a lot of I'm very fortunate to
706
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:59.079
have a lot of really talented friends, and some like like Carrie, have
707
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:00.440
reached out was like, Hey,
we're doing this thing, you want to
708
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:02.880
be part of it. And it's
made me want to reach out to my
709
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:06.920
other friends who haven't taken that step
yet, like, Yo, you could
710
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:10.719
just do something. Yeah, it
doesn't and that's the that's It doesn't even
711
00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:15.400
have to be good, right,
No, it can just be fun.
712
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.960
Like I am working on two different
projects, one with THEO and our friend
713
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.639
Pamela Davis Nolan and it's a short
film. And I'm working on one that
714
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:27.000
I'm writing with Anne Mahoney who played
Olivia, And I'm like, we're just
715
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:30.159
gonna do it, like we're gonna
figure it out and we're gonna do it.
716
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:32.559
Yeah, Like they're both gonna be
I think they're both good. But
717
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:37.239
on some level, what matters is
that we're doing something we want to do
718
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.840
and it's it's feeding our soul.
It's cheesy and cliche ass, that's it,
719
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:46.119
you know. And these are both
short films, or the one with
720
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:50.559
THEO is and then the one I'm
working on with a Mahoney is a longer
721
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:53.320
idea, So we have to get
that to a place where we're gonna figure
722
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:55.639
out how we want to do it. Oh wow, that was gonna be
723
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.079
my next question to talk about the
short film you guys are working on,
724
00:46:59.159 --> 00:47:01.000
and when can we expect the one
you two are working on together. Is
725
00:47:01.039 --> 00:47:04.559
that out yet or how how long
do we have to wait or do you
726
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.280
even know when it might be available? We are in pre production, which
727
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:14.079
is a fancy term for gathering money
and truth which but we are filming in
728
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.760
the end of July and it'll probably
be ready to be seen spring twenty twenty
729
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.920
four, would be my theory.
Yeah, and THEO was playing the lead.
730
00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:27.639
THEO all right, yeah, I'll
let him tell you more. No,
731
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:29.840
no, no, I want you
to tell everybody. Okay, Well,
732
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:34.840
it's a it's a story that actually
M reached out to me about a
733
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.480
few years ago. So rewind back
to when I was talking about how I
734
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:43.360
got into acting. Person that cast
me as the first league was Pamela and
735
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.239
so that's how we met work.
I was in one of her plays early
736
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:50.079
on, and she told me about
this idea. And it has a lot
737
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.400
to do with um, it has
a lot to do with gun violence,
738
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:58.519
It has a lot to do with
like public descent as far as our politics
739
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:04.079
and polos Hee's go just like the
way people are really really feeling, you
740
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:07.400
know, just like getting down to
the to the really the real the reality
741
00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:13.760
of the way people are really,
really really feeling and maybe even like forecasting,
742
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:16.639
you know, because like she's kind
of good at that. So Terry,
743
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:21.000
do you know about No Soul?
I'll tell you about it after we
744
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.760
get off. But in sure,
it's a story about all the people,
745
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:30.079
all the black people in New Orleans
leaving the city abruptly, there wouldn't really
746
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:35.119
be much of a city, so
that would be terrible. Yeah, and
747
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.480
so, um, that was the
whole point of it, right, and
748
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:43.400
and so that's took all the people
that are left are white people. Um,
749
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:57.719
and uh, we played the white
people. But he's also kind of
750
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.800
forecasting, like she was forecasting think
gentrification of New Orleans, because a lot
751
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:07.599
of the things maybe not as extreme, but uh, in some numbers in
752
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:16.360
some places are starting to look like
So there's also the airbnb thing where like
753
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:21.679
you there will be a block in
like downtown the Bywater where there's only one
754
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.559
person who lives on that block,
like all the houses are short term rentals.
755
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:28.440
And we finally got our city council
to do some movement on it.
756
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.719
But so just for everybody out there. If you're visiting New Orleans, is
757
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:36.440
it a licensed bed and breakfast or
a hotel? Partially as well, because
758
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.880
an Airbnb won't tell you you're in
a dangerous neighborhood, and that is something
759
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:44.920
you have definitely got to consider.
And you don't know New Orleans well enough.
760
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.599
If you're visiting, right, please
bed and breakfast or hotel please?
761
00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:52.119
Yeah. Yeah, So we have
areas that it's like, I don't even
762
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.199
know what you would call it.
It's not even necessarily it's gentrification, but
763
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:57.960
it's in a way that is like
there's not even people living there. Yeah,
764
00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.679
it's in early stage gentrification, which
is the most dangerous. WHOA,
765
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:07.719
no late days. This is the
most immediately dangerous. And every time we
766
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.320
get a bad hurricane it lessens a
little because people realize we will have no
767
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:14.079
power for twelve days and then they're
like, oh, I don't like that,
768
00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:19.840
and I'm like, well all right, yeah. Yeah. It's like
769
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.920
the Chicago winter. It kind of
weeds people out a little bit, like
770
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:28.199
a right, did they all come
back? Remember why they left? Yeah?
771
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:32.360
I do not think I will see
Chicago winter. Oh it's not that
772
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:37.239
bad, you know. I was
born in Montana and Chicago is worse.
773
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:42.519
Yeah, I have dealt with negative
twenty regular like a week, and Montana's
774
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:45.480
dry. And I will tell you
Chicago is one of the coldest places.
775
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:47.599
It's the coldest I've ever been.
Chicago will make you feel like you can't
776
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:51.119
start your car. You gotta be
worried about that. And then the wind
777
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:52.559
will smack you like it like it
goes money. You know, it's like,
778
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:57.119
what's what's going on? It's just
too windy. And I'll reiterate what
779
00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:05.400
I said before. I'm from Georgia. Just come up here once like a
780
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:07.800
couple of days, like you know, visit family, then get out in
781
00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:10.519
New York. I've lived in New
York. I lived in Massachusetts, and
782
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.679
I've been through their winters and that's
fine. I feel accomplished and I don't
783
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:20.639
have to do any more. There
you go, you go. You can't
784
00:51:20.719 --> 00:51:29.360
argue with that. The box is
checked. Well, thanks so much.
785
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.159
Both of you guys are coming on. You talk about how people could find
786
00:51:31.199 --> 00:51:36.480
you online, follow you guys on
like Instagram and Twitter and all the places
787
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:38.400
you guys have like maybe I've like
a website or anything you want to promote
788
00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:42.119
and so people could follow you and
find out when this project comes out.
789
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:45.840
So the name of the project is
Room for Dessert, and you're gonna want
790
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.159
to follow Pamela Davis Nolan. I
believe she's under Coffee Colored Dreams as well
791
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:53.559
and keen Amitting Publishing. But if
you look for Pamela Davis Nolan and you
792
00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:57.679
see me and the orre following her
on Instagram, and then for me,
793
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:00.000
I am kind of only on Instagram
and that's kind of all I'm really good
794
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:04.719
at, So find me there.
I will not pay for the verification.
795
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:12.719
I don't care. But it's obviously
me because it's gardening and h random veterans
796
00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:15.239
things and dogs. That's if you
see a bunch of those posts, that's
797
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:20.960
me, you know, like almost
no photos of me, but you will
798
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:25.000
know how my tree is doing and
how my dogs agree. So no,
799
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:30.960
tichtok, I won't help you.
I was I realized I wasn't following you
800
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:36.519
a little bit ago and I was
looking like I don't okay, okay,
801
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:42.360
no, this yeah, this check
this check yeah yeah yeah yeah. Like
802
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.920
that's the picture of jasins, that's
picture, that's her. These are plants.
803
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.039
That's difference. Look at the flowers, look at the flowers. Yeah,
804
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.320
yea, yeah yeah um, and
I can be flown across the board
805
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:59.159
of Theoda's Crane. Um, Instagram, Twitter, My website is Big Dude
806
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:05.639
for Hire. Yeah, and everything
else is Theodas Crane. That's awesome.
807
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.119
Thanks so much Karry Khu and the
Oldest Crane for coming on the show here.
808
00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.000
That's been a big thrill, haven't
you both thinned? There is anything
809
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.719
else you guys want to promote or
I obviously will look forward for that short
810
00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.519
film when it comes out and everything
else. Now I just always forget because
811
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:22.039
I'm because it's such a length of
time between filming and actually things gowing up,
812
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:25.000
and then I'm like, no,
I think that's it. Yeah yeah,
813
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:29.400
room for dessert. And then I
will post on like my Instagram as
814
00:53:29.400 --> 00:53:31.440
well to keep people informed it with
me and AND's projects coming up, which
815
00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:35.639
is a while we have to finish
some stuff, but like, yeah,
816
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:39.599
I think I think that's it.
Plant native plants, That's what I'll promote
817
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:45.079
because it takes less effort, it
takes less effort, it takes less water,
818
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:49.159
and there they usually like work with
your environment better. So here in
819
00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:53.280
Arizona, don't plant a pretty tree
unless it's supposed to be there. That's
820
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:59.480
my one. That's the promotion I
have, and everybody listen to the OZP
821
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:04.000
Monster Monster I thought on Spotify and
maybe Carrye'll check it out. WHI she's
822
00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:08.079
into books. I have a plane
in the background. Check out five Nights
823
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:12.639
at Freddy's. Also, I'll be
in that. Oh awesome, there we
824
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.840
go. Yeah, definitely check that
out everybody. Thanks so much Carrie Kayhill
825
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:20.599
and Theodas Crane for coming on the
Infinite Benter Podcast. Big Honor can't say
826
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.039
it. Thank you enough for both
of you coming on here and giving some
827
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.199
stories about the Walking Dead and much
much more. And I noticed the theme
828
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:28.719
you know it you both started off
to like karaoke, and you know,
829
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:31.280
that's really what I thought. That's
pretty cool. That kind of helped get
830
00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:35.039
you guys where we are now.
That's pretty funny. Yeah, it is
831
00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.800
funny. Yeah, everybody go out
there and do some karaoke. You never
832
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.840
know what will happen next. So
story, thank you, story. That's
833
00:54:40.880 --> 00:54:45.199
great. All right, thanks so
much, guys. You you're welcome.
834
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.880
Thank you so much. You're welcome. That was really fun talking with Kerry
835
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:51.920
kay Hill and Theioda's Crane. Definitely
go check out their short film and follow
836
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:55.880
them online to keep in tune with
what they're doing. That now has put
837
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.960
my total tally of Walking Dead actors
on the show at six. You know
838
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.280
that that's pretty cool. Like I
said, one hundred and forty nine episodes
839
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:06.920
in, I never would have guessed
I would have had one, let alone
840
00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:10.000
six different actors from that show.
So more than grateful, big salute to
841
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:13.400
all of them who have come on
here in the past and hopefully in the
842
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.119
future. So I really really appreciate
Carry and THEO coming on. And we
843
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:20.920
talked about it in the interview there
that THEO has an album he has you
844
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:22.920
can find it on Spotify. It's
called Monster Monster, but it's spelled m
845
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:27.719
O N S T I R twice. It's an ep he has out there.
846
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.800
I wanted to play a track from
that to get you guys acclimated with
847
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:32.920
it, maybe get you to go
to Spotify and check him out. And
848
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:37.559
it's a pretty cool coincidence to think
that the first Walking Dead actor I've ever
849
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:42.119
had on this show was Joshua Michael
going way back its episode forty one,
850
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.639
and he had mentioned that he was
in a band, and I played a
851
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.239
couple of songs from his group,
Look Mexico. Fast forward all the way
852
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:51.800
to hear I found out that THEO
Crane has an EP called Monster Monster on
853
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.159
Spotify and Pandora and I've been playing
some of the tracks. We're gonna play
854
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.360
one here, and I just think
it's really cool that a lot of these
855
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.159
actors are more than actors. So
shout out to Michael. Check out his
856
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:04.400
band and Look Mexico. You can
find their music on all the platforms.
857
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.440
And if you want to hear those
episodes with past walking to that actors,
858
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.079
I'll tell you right now which numbers
they are with So Josh and Michael's episode
859
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:15.599
forty one, Vincent m Ward's episode
forty nine, Jason Warner Smith episode sixty
860
00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:20.039
eight, and Luke Temple the most
recent one was one hundred and ten.
861
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:23.440
And all these actors have worked with
the two people you just heard from on
862
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:27.960
this show, so big shout out
to Carry and theover Coming on the show.
863
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.119
And let's get into that track from
THEO. This one's called No Game
864
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:35.599
Plan from Theoda's Crane. You can
find it on Spotify. It's called Monster
865
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:37.480
Monster. The EP he has a
lot of fun with this kind of a
866
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:42.159
you know, like if you had
like Mac ten and like Vincent Price like
867
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.360
combined, this is what you would
get, So check it out. Here's
868
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:49.760
no game plan from Theoda's crane and
big shout out to him and carry cahover
869
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.679
coming on the show. But this
is no game plan from his ep Monster
870
00:56:52.760 --> 00:57:00.159
Monster here on the Infinite Banser Podcast, Let's go black guest day, ain't
871
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:04.360
out left, shake my rep.
Watch your step you want to save the
872
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.760
little homie bitch be my guest,
Watch your left? He got next eating
873
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:14.920
up the livestock. Can't your family
pets take one step? You can't bet
874
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.719
we taking shoulders out the soccer,
taking heads off next, thlow a sparrel
875
00:57:17.800 --> 00:57:21.559
line the pocket. It's your home, weeping bright. Oh you brought this
876
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:24.400
little black gag, you cap black
bests. I made a magine motherfucker cause
877
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:29.239
of real life stress. Its I
have a motherfucker. I'm a hairless past
878
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:34.079
the story straing motherfucker with the clap
bast becc to stratched motherfucker, make you
879
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.599
sake. Ain't yet. And you
heard the band of arrows trying to feed
880
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:40.199
arrows up the crib hole posing.
Now you're magining up a zero and a
881
00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:44.920
couple of band of heroes. Ain't
scaling the darkness? Watch for your part,
882
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:46.920
watch with the spark. I mean, in every sign of life,
883
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:50.320
I would have cleared out the art. I bring a bitch out, a
884
00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.039
brave man. What can I say
that you for comper deals feels from the
885
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:57.800
walker's break hand, a break up
the game playing teeth. It's a bread
886
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.119
band bt of a footprints dead,
It's just a frame RESI freshman, stage
887
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:06.480
man making head for the tame man's
I mean Moncar's favorite, my solidom come
888
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:17.559
to no game plans, faite rug
no game play, sam my side game
889
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:28.400
play's favorite, couscar, bottle buncar
no game player, how your mouscle's favorite?
890
00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:35.239
Most I don't come with no game
play play? Bottle't come with no
891
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:49.000
game play? Right bun with no
game play? Bottom coming don't get game
892
00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.599
play? Hey, what's gonna invise
your man? Vincent m wars in a
893
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:54.880
oscar from the Number one should walking
dead and I'm here with my man Mark
894
00:58:55.000 --> 00:59:01.320
from Infinite Banter. Yeah, but
the stay tuned piece. May I have
895
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:13.400
your attention? Least infinite You don't
think I didn't watch them. I remember
896
00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:16.360
them. No, of course you
did. Of course you can have called
897
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:21.679
the bad at that can can attention? I do that pretty much all the
898
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:25.320
time. So I disagree. You're
yeah, you're a terrible person. Yeah
899
00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:30.039
it was. It was ridiculous.
There you go. But that's the way
900
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:32.320
you sum it up, complete garbage. Cool camp. You'd make me feel
901
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.559
like the Greene because I had all
this hate in my heart for Vanilla.
902
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:38.360
I saw these years, thirty something
years, and now you get yeah,
903
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:42.079
I'm just blowing you up. So
I'm like, yo, you know it?
904
00:59:42.519 --> 00:59:44.480
I, oh, well, maybe
wouldn't it? Let me go this
905
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:49.519
nice? Let me go watch the
movie? Wasn't that the Ice movie had
906
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:54.159
cool as Ice or something? You
know what it's called because you you win't
907
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:57.400
seen it? You went, you
seen it? You went and seen it.
908
00:59:57.639 --> 01:00:01.679
Stand. You know what it's called
you? It is called this whole
909
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:07.719
thing. Do you know what it
is called? You? Is the opening
910
01:00:07.840 --> 01:00:10.960
day all right? Stead of a
Star Wars poster? I really have a
911
01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.039
clue as Ice? Yeah when it
with the Voter cycle? Is the old
912
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:23.199
Ship? Yeah? Awesome, you've
seen it too? Hell yeah twice You've
913
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:34.079
got the Blue Ray and into special
directors come, hell yeah, get out
914
01:00:34.119 --> 01:00:42.920
of here, complete garbage, infinite. It's time once again for the infinite
915
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:47.679
torture segment, the segment where I
put myself through some torture, usually visually,
916
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:52.880
where I'm watching a movie that either
I have not seen before or had
917
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.760
some interest in and wanted to check
it out, or somebody suggested, like
918
01:00:55.880 --> 01:01:00.079
with this movie here Split Second.
M Doc Diego frequent guests of the show.
919
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:02.880
He was saying to me that you
should check out this movie called Split
920
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:05.760
Second. I'm like, all right, you know what, I'll do it.
921
01:01:06.079 --> 01:01:08.679
I'm always up for suggestions because you
know, it's not easy looking for
922
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:14.119
something bad on purpose, so it's
good to have some help. So if
923
01:01:14.119 --> 01:01:16.840
anybody has suggestions, let me know. I definitely am looking forward. I
924
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:22.239
shouldn't say I'm looking forward to any
of this. I'm definitely encouraging that you
925
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.880
send me your bad suggestions and I
will take them under advisements. So here
926
01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:30.079
we go. Split Second a movie
starring Rutger howerd. You probably know him
927
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:34.920
from movies like Blade Runner since City. The last thing I saw him in
928
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.480
was Hobo with the Shotgun. That
was one of those grindhouse trailers that was
929
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.679
turned into a movie kind of like
Machette, and then I talked about in
930
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.360
a couple episodes Back to Thanksgiving movie
which will become a film as well.
931
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:49.679
Also as Kim Cattrelle. You know
her from Sex in the City, I
932
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.039
know her more from Mannequin, a
movie I watched a lot of times as
933
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.280
a kid. I don't know why. It's really not that good of a
934
01:01:55.400 --> 01:02:00.599
movie, but I watched it a
lot. So here we go split Second,
935
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:02.159
and right off the top, I
don't know why it's called split Second.
936
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:06.480
After watching the entire movie, I
don't get why it's called that.
937
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:09.360
It is a really generic title that
does not fit. It. Kind of
938
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:15.480
feels like Blade Runner and Alien like
a combination of that kind of remind me
939
01:02:15.519 --> 01:02:17.599
of Angel Heart a little bit.
You know, there's somebody running around taking
940
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:22.159
heartside of people's chests, and Rutger
Hower plays a cop that's you know,
941
01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.400
always on a bender, trying to
find out who this is. I don't
942
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.960
know what Split Second supposed to me, So right at the start, at
943
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:30.280
the credits, it says a challenge
film. I'm like, you're damn right,
944
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:34.079
this could be a challenge to watch
this. I have no idea what
945
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:39.159
I'm in for. It's in London
two thousand and eight, so everything is
946
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:44.760
wet. Apparently climate change is really
hit hard in London. Everything's underwater.
947
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:47.159
When I say underwater, I mean
not like the city is underwater, but
948
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:51.760
there's like two or three feet of
standing water in all the streets. So
949
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:55.119
people are always good lashing it up
walking through water to get to wherever they
950
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.880
gotta go. There's a hovercraft in
there, which is pretty pretty fit.
951
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.079
Because I talked about mask in the
last episode, so I don't know if
952
01:03:02.119 --> 01:03:07.000
the hovercraft turns into a car like
Unmasked, but yeah, somebody's right run
953
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.280
in a hovercraft because you know you
can't drive cars. I have a car
954
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.679
by the way, two thousand and
four, Saturn. I still have it
955
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:16.639
to this day. Twice I've been
hit with like torrential rains while driving home
956
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:21.639
and got stuck underwater where that car
stalled out and had to push it out
957
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.480
and wait for someone to come help
me. And the second time was really
958
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:28.400
hectic because I was in Detroit by
myself at like ten o'clock at night and
959
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:31.440
I didn't get home until that was
on a Friday. I didn't get home
960
01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:36.159
until Sunday morning in my car had
to get fixed. It's a big story.
961
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:37.280
Maybe one day I'll tell it on
here. There's a lot to tell
962
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:40.599
there. It's too much. That
brought back a lot of bad memories for
963
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:45.599
me of driving through water and realizing
how dangerous that is. It is not
964
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.079
fun. So maybe one day I'll
bring up that story. I don't know
965
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.639
why I would do it, but
I'll save it for another time. That
966
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:58.000
was torture without a doubt. There's
a strip club that Rutger Howerd's character goes
967
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:04.119
to called jaj'st Well, why isn't
it called Vjj's in two thousand and eight.
968
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.960
There's a pay phone that he uses, so I guess people don't have
969
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:10.280
cell phones yet. I had a
cell phone in two thousand and eight.
970
01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:13.960
Where people still using pay phones in
two thousand and eight. And he's drinking
971
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.199
coffee at the strip club. Now, this is the introduction of this character.
972
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:18.880
I'm not aware that he's gonna always
drink coffee throughout the whole movie,
973
01:04:19.239 --> 01:04:21.599
but the first time he's drinking it
is at a strip club. I'm thinking,
974
01:04:21.639 --> 01:04:25.320
like, I didn't know they serve
coffee. Why would you drink coffee
975
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:28.039
there? That sounds pretty gross.
So Howard, he's set up as like
976
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:31.480
this kind of detective bounty hunter guy. He's out there looking for some killer,
977
01:04:31.519 --> 01:04:34.280
like a Jack the Ripper type,
and his name is Stone, which
978
01:04:34.320 --> 01:04:36.800
they finally, you know, tell
what his name is. There's a murder
979
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:43.239
at the Vajj's club, he can't
find the killer, and it cuts to
980
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:45.639
him being at the police station and
they tell him he's gotta have a new
981
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.360
partner in it typical you know,
buddy cop trope thing. He's a rogue
982
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:53.440
cop who's got a bad attitude and
he didn't like partners because his last one
983
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:56.960
died, and he's gonna get some
you know, over educated, smart,
984
01:04:57.199 --> 01:05:00.480
you know, cracking jokes type of
guy. And that's the situator. So
985
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.119
he kind of like a buddy cop
film that doesn't really play like a real
986
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.360
buddy cop film. But and then
he asks for a pen so you could
987
01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:10.880
stir his coffee. Which is disgusting, is how using a pen which people
988
01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:14.119
put in their mouth, in their
ears and their nose whatever they scratched their
989
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:16.239
butt with it. I mean,
it's a what kind of coffee is this?
990
01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:20.239
You can put a pen in there? That's disgusting. And his partner's
991
01:05:20.360 --> 01:05:26.559
name is Dick Durkin, not Dick
Durbin, the Illinois Senator Dick Durkin.
992
01:05:27.880 --> 01:05:30.440
There's another joke I have later on
that I'll use it this because there's a
993
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.039
coffee joke. So that should tell
you where I'm going with that. So
994
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.519
the killer tears out the heart of
his victims. It's like Mulram, I
995
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:41.519
thought made. They could solve this
really quick. It's Mulram mum the world.
996
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.920
He's a one doing it. Thirty
minutes in I wrote down, where's
997
01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:46.639
Kim Cattrelle. She's not in this
yet. She does not show up for
998
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:50.000
at least thirty minutes. This does
have like a forty eight hours vibe,
999
01:05:50.079 --> 01:05:54.039
you know, because rutger House character
is very like Nick Nolty. Oh Hail
1000
01:05:54.119 --> 01:06:00.360
convict, They're in your damned dinner, sag nut. He's got that kind
1001
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:02.679
of vibe. With his new partner. He treats him like shit. He
1002
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:06.400
doesn't help him, you know what's
going on. He doesn't seem want him
1003
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:11.760
around, but he needs him because
he knows stuff. But he's not very
1004
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:15.880
open to being a friendly guy with
the new partner. So the new partner
1005
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:17.360
guy. He has a set of
keys, and on his keys there is
1006
01:06:17.400 --> 01:06:20.519
a wrestler like hanging from it,
and it looked like Lex Luger. I
1007
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:24.320
don't know if that's actually who it
was, but it looked like a Lex
1008
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:27.280
Luger key chain, so I thought
that was pretty cool. So I'm liking
1009
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:29.639
this guy already. I would have
been friends with this guy. And there's
1010
01:06:29.719 --> 01:06:31.599
mannequin, I mean, Kim Catrelle. She shows up. Yeah, she's
1011
01:06:31.639 --> 01:06:35.960
like doing botany in some like you
know, water infested place. And then
1012
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.840
they go back to his apartment and
I want to know what kind of shoes
1013
01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:42.559
are they wearing where everything is flooded, because he's like, nobody seems to
1014
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:45.719
care about wet socks. Nobody's worried
about walking into somebody else's apartment with wet
1015
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:50.000
shoes, nobody's taking them off.
It's very they don't talk about like they
1016
01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:53.920
have the water. I really don't
know why the water was a thing because
1017
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:57.719
it's all throughout the city, but
it doesn't play into anything. It doesn't
1018
01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:00.559
have anything to do with the narrative. I don't really know they're going with
1019
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.559
it, but you know, I
guess it's a cool idea, just to
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01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:06.559
have it flooded for some reason.
And of course Rutger Howard's crib looks like
1021
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:12.159
ridiculous. It looks like a gun
closet. There's no like living space.
1022
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:18.039
It's just motorcycles and guns, and
it's thinkful of dishes. Oh yeah,
1023
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:21.400
and there's pigeons inside his house and
it's normal. Well, I do all
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01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:26.360
cops have shitty apartments because if you
look at most movies, especially like these,
1025
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.480
you know, these eighties and nineties
flicks, they have like these bachelor
1026
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:32.719
pads that are just like total like
testosterone places. He's got a motorcycle in
1027
01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:38.920
his living room. Okay, it's
like, why, oh there's guns everywhere?
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01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:42.079
Sure, what do I have?
Have a couple of funk pops?
1029
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:46.400
So stupid? He has more guns
than food. This guy doesn't go shopping.
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01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:50.280
I wrote down that Durkin the partner
who shows up Durkin and Stowed need
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01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:55.039
Duncan. So there's my bad joke
I was alluding to earlier. Durkin needs
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01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:58.480
to go on a Dunkin run because
he always wants coffee. Rutger Howard is
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01:07:58.519 --> 01:08:00.199
always crying the neat some coffee,
and I guess a pen to stir it
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01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:03.800
with. There's a crazy scene where
Kim Catrell's character is taking a shower kind
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01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.480
of reminiscent of Psycho. You get
a boob shot. So if you want
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01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:10.159
to see Kim Cantrell's boobs, they
are there for you. And there's some
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01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:13.559
heavy breathing kind of has like a
Michael Myers vibe or like I said,
1038
01:08:13.639 --> 01:08:16.720
Psycho, he's so apparently watching her, you know, I'll say this,
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01:08:16.880 --> 01:08:20.479
there's a lot of cool setup scenes
in this movie. It really isn't as
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01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:23.960
much as Tortures I thought it would
be. But yeah, if you want
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01:08:23.960 --> 01:08:27.000
to see Kim ConTroll naked, you
get a boob shot here. This is
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01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:29.920
like the first time you start think
the idea that the killer is not a
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01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.720
person at some sort of demon.
Just the way that this killer is acting
1044
01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:35.880
from the point of view of what
he's doing. And of course, my
1045
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:43.800
favorite trope smoking in the hospital.
They're at the hospital and they're smoking cigarettes.
1046
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:48.439
My favorite is in Jaws when Roy
Scheider's kid gets like what happens?
1047
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:53.119
He's in shock, he's in the
hospital, people are scared. The mayor
1048
01:08:53.159 --> 01:08:57.079
shows up and he's smoking cigarettes.
No, where's the mayor? Into history
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01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:00.720
of cities smoking in the hospital and
two and eight. Although this movie was
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01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.920
made in like nineteen ninety one or
something. What the year what's this thing
1051
01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:08.239
made? I didn't write it down
somewhere in the nineties. Kind of has
1052
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:11.359
like a predator vibe then, because
they can't see the killer, but he
1053
01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:14.600
could see them. He's kind of
like blending into the background. He tears
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01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:16.039
apart to prey one by one,
he can't kill him, So yeah,
1055
01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:18.960
there's a little bit of a predator
vibe going on. I'm a predator nerds.
1056
01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:23.279
I definitely caught that. There's a
morgue scene, which is pretty crazy.
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01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.760
It's it's gruesome. Killer kills somebody, but he doesn't get the heart.
1058
01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:30.199
The dead bodies at the morgue and
the two guys, the detectives,
1059
01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:31.439
they figured this out and they got
to go to the morgue and stop him
1060
01:09:31.720 --> 01:09:34.479
before he takes the body. Kind
of like predator, I sort of guy,
1061
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:36.399
it's the same thing he took.
Remember he took jesseven too, his
1062
01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:41.319
body after he was killed because he's
doing trophies or something whatever. So yeah,
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01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.079
that scene is pretty cool. When
you watch this movie, definitely check
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01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:45.640
out the morgue scene. It's it's
one of the best parts of the movie.
1065
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.399
I will say this like I've done
a lot of these infinite torture segments.
1066
01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:51.960
Now I must have done at least
twelve to fifteen of these things.
1067
01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:56.239
This is one of the first times
I wrote this down where I watched the
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01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:59.439
movie more than I wrote notes.
That's a good thing because I'm not making
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01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:01.239
jokes. I'm not making, you
know, little shitty comments about it.
1070
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:05.359
I'm actually just watching the movie.
So this Brace yourself. This might be
1071
01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:10.279
my favorite thing I've had to sit
through. There's more coffee. They get
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01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:14.039
bigger guns as what you need to
fight this guy. Two thousand and eight
1073
01:10:14.199 --> 01:10:15.359
is a year of the Rats.
Of course it is, because there's rats
1074
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:19.199
everywhere. The city is full of
water. I said this movie should have
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01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:24.039
been called Mister Coffee. There's a
lot of names they should have gave this
1076
01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:27.479
movie. Split Second wasn't one of
them. There is a funny scene where
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01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:30.399
Rutger Howard and the other guy,
his new partner, they have a back
1078
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.640
and forth about each other's name because
Rutger Howard's characters is known as Harley.
1079
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:36.239
That's his name. But of course
you've got Harley Davidson in his living room.
1080
01:10:36.399 --> 01:10:40.239
He's got a plastered on his shower
wall, and other guy's name is
1081
01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:43.239
Dick Durkin. So they go back
and forth about how each other's names are,
1082
01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.800
and you could tell that Rutger Howard
is having a hard time holding it
1083
01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:46.800
in, like he wanted to laugh. I'm sure they had to do this
1084
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:48.760
scene quite a few times. If
you watch it, you could tell this
1085
01:10:48.840 --> 01:10:54.800
so definitely was one hit that got
them both. Dick the sidekick, gets
1086
01:10:54.880 --> 01:11:00.520
caught by the demon and he engraves
like some sort of like demonic simbul shit
1087
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:02.840
all over his chest and that's how
they find where he is, which is
1088
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:06.439
like down to the sewers with the
ninja turtles and dos effects, so that's
1089
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:10.359
where they have to go get him. I wrote down many rats were killed
1090
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:14.000
during the filming of this. You
always see at the end of the movie
1091
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:16.079
say no animals were hurts are armed. I have a hard time believing none
1092
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:19.560
of these rats were harmed during the
making of this. So the climax,
1093
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:24.359
they go into a sewer to find
Kim Coatrell who's been kidnapped, and the
1094
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:28.000
demon is down there. There's an
old train tunnel that they're at. There's
1095
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.479
some trains that have down there that
are obviously abandoned because the sewer is flooded,
1096
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:32.720
he can't take the trains, I
guess. Kind of remind me of
1097
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:35.840
the Blue Line when it goes underground
kind of, but it's a different kind
1098
01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:42.920
of wet that's like pe as opposed
to water from from the ocean. So
1099
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:45.560
the demon's basically inside of a train
car. Some stuff happens. They blow
1100
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:49.800
up the train car. He's dead, and then Kim Katrell and Rutger Howard
1101
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:53.800
start making out in the water,
which I thought it was like a weird
1102
01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:57.840
forced kind of love scene or whatever. That was awkward, but you know,
1103
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.920
you gotta have some sort of love, see, I guess I don't
1104
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.079
know why they had to do that. And the demon kind of looks like
1105
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:08.279
Venom or gaus Zeno Moore from the
Alien movies, so kind of creepy looking.
1106
01:12:08.479 --> 01:12:12.960
Apparently like his old partner died and
his like soul is inside this demon.
1107
01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.960
That's why he's always going after Rutger
Hower. So the heart is blown
1108
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:17.600
up on this demon. That's how
you have to kill it. You can't
1109
01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:20.239
just like you know, shoot at
it and stuff. So it dies or
1110
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:23.479
is it dead. I don't know. They kind of leave it open for
1111
01:12:23.560 --> 01:12:27.079
a sequel. Movie ends, and
you know what, I hate to say
1112
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:30.760
it because it wasn't torture. This
was actually pretty easy to watch. I
1113
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.119
didn't hate it. I did read
some notes about it. Harrison Ford was
1114
01:12:33.119 --> 01:12:36.239
originally in mind when the script was
written, which makes sense because he's the
1115
01:12:36.279 --> 01:12:41.319
star blade Runner. This is very
Blade Runner type movie. I'm guessing he
1116
01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:44.319
didn't want to do it, or
maybe he never got that far. I
1117
01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.399
don't know, but there's definitely a
cult following with this movie. A lot
1118
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:50.000
of people have discovered it on People
really like it. One of the original
1119
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:55.680
titles was black Tide. That would
have been way better than split Seconds.
1120
01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:59.520
It's like, I don't even understand
that split second doesn't make any sense why
1121
01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:01.000
it's called. It's like they just
reached into a hat and it's like a
1122
01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:04.960
split second. Sure, mister coffee
would have worked. Black Tide would have
1123
01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:09.680
been a better, much better title. But overall, so I give these
1124
01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:14.399
movies like ratings. So five garbage
cans means it's garbage the worst thing.
1125
01:13:14.760 --> 01:13:18.079
One garbage can means it's pretty tolerable, if not decent, and that's what
1126
01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:21.600
I'll give this one. This is
the best movie. I can't belie I'm
1127
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:25.840
saying this that I've watched for the
infinite torture segment. I'm not saying it's
1128
01:13:25.840 --> 01:13:28.439
a great movie, and I'm not
saying you should go buy it and go
1129
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:30.920
watch it numerous times. I don't
know if I'll ever watch it again.
1130
01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:34.119
But as far as all the ones
I've watched, this one was the least
1131
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:38.880
for me to make fun of,
and I had the most I don't know
1132
01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:42.000
a word this. I guess I
enjoyed it. I don't try not to
1133
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:45.079
say I liked it. It's like
I didn't. It's not a good movie,
1134
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:47.920
but there's a lot of cool things
about it. Rutger Holler is awesome.
1135
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:51.319
Rest in peace. He passed away
some years ago. And you know
1136
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:55.000
Kim Cattrelle, of course, you
know back then she was doing her thing.
1137
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:58.319
So I give it one garbage can, and it's like a it could
1138
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.039
almost not even get a garbage can. It's it's pretty good. I would
1139
01:14:00.039 --> 01:14:02.840
actually say, go watch it.
You could see a lot worse. So,
1140
01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:06.840
m Doc Diego, I appreciate your
suggestion. It's actually not that bad
1141
01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:10.560
of a movie. I think he
knew that. I think he wanted me
1142
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:15.479
to watch something that wasn't garbage,
So kudos to him. So split seconds.
1143
01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:19.520
One garbage can is a complete garbage. It's not it's just full of
1144
01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:24.119
water and you know, bad puns
throughout, but yeah, it's it's not
1145
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:27.319
bad. Go ahead and watch it
complete garbage. Hey, this is Jason
1146
01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:35.600
Warner Smith and you are listening to
Mark Jollis on Infinite Banter Banter. It's
1147
01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:41.199
hard for you to leave assholes.
That is Kirkosavado. Tell me it's time
1148
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:43.439
to go, and that it's exactly
what I'm going to do. Actually,
1149
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:45.840
he was on The Walking Dead.
Maybe some of you remember that he was
1150
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:49.079
on their very short but he had
a couple of memorable scenes during season four.
1151
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:56.039
Was when the Governor made his comeback. He came back to the prison
1152
01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:58.600
and he was gonna take him out
finally and he got a new gang of
1153
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.680
thugs and kirk osoveto played. I
don't remember what his character's name was,
1154
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.359
but he was a guy in the
tank and he's a sitting in the tank
1155
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:08.359
and Rick's given a speech about how
they gonna live together and you know,
1156
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:12.039
kumbaya, and he's like time for
you leave, asshole, we want what
1157
01:15:12.199 --> 01:15:15.640
you got something like that. So
when I met Kirk at a convention,
1158
01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:17.600
when he said that to me while
I was recording an interview with him,
1159
01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:20.000
and you go back and check out
that interview. I think it's like episode
1160
01:15:20.079 --> 01:15:24.159
five or six, so a long
time ago back when these are do Walker
1161
01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:26.960
Stalker cons. I don't believe they
do those anymore. But yeah, it
1162
01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:28.720
was a lot of fun talk with
him. I knew when he said that.
1163
01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:30.960
I'm like, I'm gonna find a
way to use that, and I've
1164
01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.840
been using it ever since, So
it is time for me to leave me
1165
01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:38.119
being the asshole. Thanks again to
carry Kay Hill and Theoda's Crane. There's
1166
01:15:38.119 --> 01:15:40.920
a lot of fun talk went down
about The Walking Dead and much much more
1167
01:15:40.960 --> 01:15:44.520
to spinoffs are coming. You got
the Maggie and Nigan Dead City show,
1168
01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:46.439
Daryl goes out to Paris, I
think it's called Daryl Dixon, and then
1169
01:15:46.479 --> 01:15:48.960
the Rick and Machone show, and
I'm sure there's gonna be some other stuff
1170
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:51.880
sprinkled in there. And Fear The
Walking Dead is coming back next month.
1171
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:56.399
There's a lot of content that the
flagship show might be done, but the
1172
01:15:56.600 --> 01:16:00.880
series and everything connected to it.
The world is still still go on and
1173
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:02.880
there's gonna be a lot more content. So definitely can't wait to see some
1174
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.000
of these shows and maybe talk about
them on here. And make sure you
1175
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.920
follow Carry and THEO online, check
out what they're doing, and look for
1176
01:16:09.920 --> 01:16:14.119
their short film and check out Theo's
EP, Monster Monster on Spotify. All
1177
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:16.359
right, Dad said for me The
Infinite Banter podcast. You can find out
1178
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:20.359
on all platforms. Follow the show
on social media at Infinite Banter Podcast.
1179
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:26.760
Go on YouTube, type in Infinite
Banter from clips from past guests, rate
1180
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:30.439
and review the show. Do the
Spotify poll the questions that I have on
1181
01:16:30.560 --> 01:16:33.039
there. Thanks so much everybody for
listening to the show. The next episode
1182
01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:36.880
will be one hundred and fifty,
and go check out Split Second Is.
1183
01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:42.880
I'm using this word very loosely the
best movie I've seen for the Infinite Torture
1184
01:16:42.920 --> 01:16:45.000
segment. Everything else pretty much has
been hard to watch. This one wasn't
1185
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:47.359
that bad. I didn't mind it, But of course I'm a fan of
1186
01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:50.680
Blade Runner and Angel Hearts and movies
that are very similar to this, so
1187
01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:54.359
it wasn't it hard to get me
on board. So shout out to m
1188
01:16:54.439 --> 01:16:58.000
Doc Diego for suggesting it. Now
I gotta get back and watch some real
1189
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:01.359
shit. I need a real dog
shit movie to watch next to get back
1190
01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:05.079
on track. All Right, that's
it for me. Thanks to Carry and
1191
01:17:05.159 --> 01:17:09.520
THEO for coming on the show,
big thrill. Heavn on Walking Dead actors.
1192
01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:13.000
They've always been so gracious and I
got nothing but mad salute for both
1193
01:17:13.039 --> 01:17:15.840
of them, and everybody's been on
before. So I do another one of
1194
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:18.199
these, which will be one hundred
and fifty. I can kick. I'm
1195
01:17:18.359 --> 01:17:44.319
one fifty. I'm out hey as
I'll get up the road. Being the
1196
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:46.760
infinite banner with my man Mark has
been a pleasure.
