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Hey there, this is Ira Hayden, the wizard Master from
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Nightmare on Elm Street Part three, and you are listening
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to the Infinite Banter podcast. And remember, whatever you do,
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don't follow.
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Asleep Infinite Banter podcast. Baby.
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Here it is another episode of the Infinite Banter Podcast.
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What is going on? My name is Mark Jolaffe also
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known as DJ Soundwave also known as DJ Bloombox. Shout
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out to Blue Temple from The Walking Dead for calling
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me that this episode here is a specific special episode
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that's just about comic book conventions and the most reason
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when I went to Fan Expo here in Chicago went
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to that convention, and I want to focus this episode
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on my experience there, and I'll bring back a couple
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of snippets of interviews I've done in the past that
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our comic book convention related. So in this episode here,
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not only wull I be talking about attending Fan Expo,
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but we'll bring back interviews from Jeffrey Brown who was
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on the podcast last fall, Jason Moore, who I met
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at a convention years ago in the early days of
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doing this, and then Ira Haydn, who is on my
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Halloween episode last fall as well. So stay tuned. We
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got interviews from them coming up here. Definitely re using
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some content to create kind of a standalone comic book
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convention episode. But before we go forward, we always go back.
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And on the last episode, I had ultramag seven on
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the culture Clip King. He has a way of just
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making clips on social media and reworking old music and
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videos and kind of creating something new out of it,
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and he was on the show the last episode. Had
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a blast talking with him. Here's a clip from that
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past episode. Chance check it out here you go flashback
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Ultramax seven on the most recent episode of the Infinite
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Banter podcast Flashback.
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Yeah, I do. I do these.
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I guess what people call a mashup, and I got
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known for that during I Guess the pandemic. Even still now,
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I mean, people have discovering me. But I went from
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like no followers to I think I'm hovering around sixty
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thousand or something just from I always say it to
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people doing these dumb little videos and the like, they're
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not dumb, and I'm like, just for me, because it
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was me sitting in the house just being bored, just bored,
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and you know, I just I thought that there was
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this hip hop. I guess in my mind, I thought
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there was some hip hop thing building on social media
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and I wanted to be a part of it. But
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I guess that was just an algorithm with all the
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people I was following.
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Just there you go. Definitely go back and check out
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that episode if you not had a chance a lot
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of fun talk with Ultramax seven follow him online Ultramax
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you can see all his cool clips and everything, and
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check out his podcast, The Prospective Podcast, and he's also
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featured on the It's Sea Doc Again podcast every Tuesday
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on Instagram, So check him out. Big shout out to
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him for coming on the show. But as I'd mentioned,
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this is an episode dedicated to conventions, and most recently
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I went to the Fan Expo.
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Here.
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They call it Chicago, but it's Rosemont. It's not really Chicago.
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It's on the outskirts of Chicago Northwest suburbs. The first
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convention I went to was in two thousand and four.
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It's called wizard World, and some years later wizard World
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no longer was the thing, and now that convention is
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called fan Expo. So it's considered the longest running convention
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in the Chicago area. Even though it's under a different name,
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different management title, all that stuff, but the elements are
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still there. You've got vendors, comic books and toys and
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figures and things. You've got local artists, and you've got
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name artists, and you've got celebrities and cosplayers. Everything you
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expect at a convention you definitely get at the Fan Expo.
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The only one that even is close to competing with
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it is c Tweet two, which happens in usually in
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late spring early spring in the Chicago area at the
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McCormick Place. So I definitely had a Blasko in the
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fan XBO. I appreciate the invite, and you know, having
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the podcast come out there, saw some really cool cos players.
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If you follow me on Instagram at Infinite Banter podcast,
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you'll see that I posted a bunch of pictures from
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different people who were dressed up at the convention. I've
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been going to these things for so long that it's
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been like twenty years of going to these conventions, and
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you know, as I get older, it's like, how many
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more can I do? Can I do three in a year? Anymore?
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Can I do three days? Because they go from you know,
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Friday to Saturday, to Sunday, and sometimes they're on Thursdays
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as well. Fan Xpo no different. They were on from
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Friday through Sunday, so it's a lot of walking. You
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get your steps in the Rosemott Convention centers. There's a
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Starbucks in there, so you can grab yourself a drink
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while you're walking around and checking out all the merch
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and all the cool cos players and everything. It's funny.
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Every year I seen them run into the same guy
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dressed as Macho Man. I saw him again, took a
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picture with him, you know, did the oh, yeah, what's
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going on? And we kept seeing him everywhere. He was
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in the Taco line stand, he was walking down River Road,
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he was, he was everywhere. So yeah, shout out to
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the guy who dressed up his mouch Man every year
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because I see him all the time. You know, there's
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a guy dressed up like Art the clown from Terrifire.
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There was a really cool Daredevil cosplay where he had
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like the yellow and red, like that old school look
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that before the eighties. Feel definitely was like in that.
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Probably my favorite cosplay that I saw, and I don't
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even know how to describe it or what it was called.
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a thriller Michael Jackson's shirt and his head was a boombox.
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He was really cool. I have a picture of it.
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I wish I would have asked what he was dressed as.
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Sometimes you take pictures of somebody because it looks cool,
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but you don't really know what they're dressed up as,
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and you kind of like, oh, man, I should have
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asked what he or she is dressed up as. But
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that was my favorite. And the boombox speakers had like
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they were like eyes, so he would like move, so
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it was pretty cool. And the tape deck was like
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the mouth.
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Definitely my favorite cosplay I saw this year. But shout
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out to Fan Expo when it come to a town
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near you. I definitely suggest checking them out. Lots of celebrities,
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big name like they had a lot of Star Wars
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people there. A little bit out of my price range
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though young it's sound like that old guy, because like
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back in like two thousand and four when I went
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the first time, I think it paid like twenty bucks
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to get a picture with Mark Singer and get a
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signed photograph and you know the other celebrities I met
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at that convention, they were all like twenty bucks. Eventually
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it starts getting a little bit higher, and I'm starting
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to get to a point where I don't necessarily go
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in those lines anymore. And they're really long too. But
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if you're somebody who's looking to meet you and McGregor
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or whoever from Star Wars, or you know your favorite
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compook artist, make sure you go to fanxpo HQ dot
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com and they'll be coming back to the Chicagoland area
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August fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth of twenty twenty six, So
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get your tickets now. They're probably already selling them, so
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don't sleep. Check out fanxpo. All right, let's get into
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the episode here. So, as I mentioned, I'm gonna play
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segments from three different interviews I've done in the past.
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So we're gonna play some segments from past interviews with
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Jeffrey Brown, Jason Moore, and Ira Hayden coming up here.
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And at the end of the episode, I do want
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to get into there's actually new Friday the thirteenth, Jason content.
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There was a short movie I was just released on
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YouTube called Sweet Revenge, put up by Angry Orchard. I
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think I gotta go buy an Angry Orchard drink because
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they've got Jason cans, so I need to get those
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drink one. Maybe I'll do a review about it or
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something or whre's my guy DJ real One? Is he
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up on that Angry Orchard? Is that stuff any good?
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I have no idea. I've never had it before. So
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I'll talk about the Sweet Revenge fifteen minutes short that
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came out. It's the first Jason related thing released in
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like twenty years that's not a fan made film, you know,
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something like that. Really excited to talk about that. Let's
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get into the Comic Book Convention special episode of the
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play some interviews from the past, talk about fan Expo,
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talk about the new Jason shorts. But the show never
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begins until the one and Only who I met at
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a convention. This audio is from the c TWEE two
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convention some years back. The One and Only King from
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Queen's DMC says this, and now the show begins.
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Yo, Yo, what's up?
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This is me DMC to K I and g the
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greatest MC in history. And right now you're listening to
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Infinite Banter because we will banter on forever, because this
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I be Infinite Banter.
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So the first interview I want to play is from
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when I went to the Walkers Stalker con in twenty nineteen,
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which I can't believe it's been six years already. And
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I got to talk to Kirk Osceavedo, who you hear
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every episode here at the end when he's saying it's
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time for you to leave asshole. That's from that convention.
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But I also got to meet Jason Moore. For those
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who don't know, he was in the Punisher Netflix series.
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He played Curtis. He was kind of like the moral
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compass of that show. He was the guy who was
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trying to kind of lead Frank Castle in the right direction.
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And he was a guy who like mentored and did
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therapy with, you know, veterans who were come back from
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military service who had some issues. So his characters really
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pivotal to that show. And I was always hoping they'd
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bring him back. And I just saw an instagram he
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posted that he is coming back to punish her. There's
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the next Punisher special. He will be acting in it again,
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reprising his role as Curtis. That's great and it made
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me think, like, man, I need to go back to
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that interview. I haven't heard it in so long, and
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it's a side noticed. One of my favorite moments at
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these conventions because my wife was with me and she
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was pregnant with our daughter at the time. So our
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picture with Jason Moore is of, you know, basically, we
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got a freebie. We we got my daughter's first celebrity
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pick was this picture with Jason Moore. So pretty cool,
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really really good dude, And this interview was a lot
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of fun to talk with him on site at that
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Walker Stalker con back in twenty nineteen. So here we
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go a little bit of a flashback. We have a
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couple flashbacks in this episode, So here we go Jason
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Moore talking about his time on Punisher and kind of
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alluding to how he wants to come back. Well, here's
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some news he is coming back. Here on the Infinite
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Banter podcast. All right, I'm here with Jason Moore at
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the Walking Dead convention and Jason Moore from the Punisher show.
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Glad to meet your mandates coming on.
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What's up man, It's good to be here.
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Appreciate it. The jacket. First of all, that jacket is
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something Oh yo.
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Y'all can't see it, but it is something I wish
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I could see it now. It's pretty good.
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Being a big fan of Punisher, it's like you're the
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moral compass of that show. You're always in the middle
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trying to keep Frank online and Jigsaw and everything. What
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was that like playing that character?
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It was it was it was dope.
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to be the badass, you know, I want the Curtis
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to at least show that side of him because you know,
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he is a former marine, you know, so right was
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a marine, but anyway, but he was he was the
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guy that put the bad the badasses together. So the
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badasses needed him. The bad asses came to Curtis, and
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that was the beauty. That was like the best part
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of like playing Curtis is like, yeah, the punishes to
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punish them, but the punishers still need to come to
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Curtis for that guidance, that brotherhood, and so it was
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really important for Curtis to be there for them, even Billy,
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you know, even though Billy betrayed us, you know, it
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was still important for Curtis to be there for him.
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So yeah, I dug that approach.
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To the role.
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those guys.
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of them, and wanted to bring that out more than
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anything else.
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But that's part of him.
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Filtering through that PTSD that they're all suffering is a
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big theme of the show, and getting them to be
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like a real healed person, a better person even though
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that they're suffering.
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Did you a lot of feedback from military people, you know,
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with the role you're playing, Like people like, oh, I
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can see like myself through your character, you know, with
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having the one leg and everything.
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Yeah, one thing that was special about it is that,
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you know, military people vets.
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They showed their appreciation for the role, and then that
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made it.
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That made it work for me, you know, I'm glad
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I was able to do it justice for them and
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we didn't cut any corners. And I took a real
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approach in terms of creating Curtis Oil for myself. And
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one thing I like to mention is that in the
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group sessions, those are all vets that are all real vets.
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So I got to I got I was really close
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to the real deal, and so they got to fill
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me in on things, We got to talk about it,
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and so there was a direct connection.
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And a lot of US fans are of course disappointed
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with the Netflix. You know Punishers no longer going to
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be back. Any idea if you could do something with
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Punisher ales in the movies or anything, or.
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Listen, I don't know what they're gonna do with it.
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Dudes in suits and boardrooms make the decisions right, and
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Punishers just the latest casualty in corporate wars man, So
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I don't know what they're gonna do. They don't fill
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listen until last minute. But yeah, for the fans, which
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I am a fan two of the show in Marvel
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uh intellectual properties, I want to see it again just
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like everyone else. So hopefully they make a move and
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they get us all together again to bring bring the
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season three together.
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All right, Jason, So who is your favorite character of
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all time?
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Superhero wise Man, It's the Halt.
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It's the incredible Halt because you know he gets stronger
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as he gets angrier.
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And I mean, I always wanted to do that.
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So so you don't do that in real life?
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No, I mean I wish, but I can't. I don't
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get stronger. In fact, I get stupider and weaker if
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I get angrier. Right, relates right, right, But yeah, if
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I can, if I can be the Halt that that
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be That would be an awesome thing. And yeah, that's
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always been my favorite ones, even since Luke for Ringo.
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I's a little kid watching Luke turned It like I
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was like, yea, come on a right, Yeah, they need
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to remake it and that's that's how they need to
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do it. They need to do it and they need
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to they need to show that off because they haven't
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done it and all of the halt it's always been
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cgi but they never they never, they never really explored
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much of that and I'm still waiting for that to happen.
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So Avengers, I want to see if that happens in
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the Avengers game where he takes on Thanos and he
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just gets angrier and because you know his boys is gone,
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some of this boys is going, and then he just
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he's able to catch racks.
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Makes you want to boke up and then put some
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green makeup.
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Man, like, Yeah, it's one of my favorite dog. It's
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like it's because the dude grows gets stronger. It's like
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everything as a kid you want to do right.
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It should be unstoppable.
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He should be unstoppable.
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Yeah, And before I go, just tell me what you're
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working on. What can't people see Jason Moore doing next.
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Yes, So I got Honor Monk Thieves coming out, which
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is a film that I'm starting in, and uh ep
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on that one, and uh that's in post production now,
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so that one's gonna be coming out. And I got
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some other stuff. I can't talk about it yet. We'll
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watch out, Yeah, to watch.
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Out for it. Some things should be hitting the trade. So, okay, I.
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Really appreciate you coming on the podcast.
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No, I no problem, man, Thanks for having me appreciate it.
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Thank you so much. Hey, y'all, Sleuth Temple Axel from
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The Walking Dad and you're listening to the Infinite Manter Podcast.
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Keep listening, you follow me.
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So here's another interview I've done on the podcast. Here.
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This is with Jeffrey Brown. He's an artist and a
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comic book writer. He was on the show back in
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the fall episode one ninety five if you want to
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check out the full episode. Had a blast talking with him.
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He's done so much cool work Darth Vader AND's son.
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His books are aimed. I guess you can say they're
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aimed at kids, but I think adults like myself can
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really appreciate it. Because one we're comic book nerds and
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we like Star Wars and Batman and stuff, but they
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come from an angle of like being a dad or
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a mom or someone with kids, so it's kind of
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helping both sides of He's found a way like a
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niche there with his books. So definitely a big fan
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of his work, and I was excited to have him
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on the show, you know, back last fall. So here's
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a segment I did with him talking about doing Star
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Wars books as well as his newer book, Batman Robin
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and Howard Summer Breakdown. Really great book. Definitely go check
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it out. He has a newer X Men book that's
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out as well. He just does great work. He finds
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a way to kind of juggle something that kids could
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read and adults can still get into the same time.
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It's not very easy. He's found a way to do that,
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and a big salute to Jeffrey Brown. So go ahead
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and check him out. Jeffrey browncomics dot com. And here's
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a segment from my interview with him last fall here
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on the Infinite Banter podcast.
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Started doing some autobiographical comics, you know, adult relationship stories
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just about awkward everyday moments, and I was doing those
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when I had the opportunity to do something for Google
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for their homepage. They had the idea of doing something
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with Luke Scawalker and Darth Vader and how awkward an
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everyday moment would be between the two of them. And
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so normally there's a there's a whole team of people
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at Google that create the Google doodles, but everyone's a while,
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they'll invite outside artists to draw something. And I'd met
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the guy that runs the doodle team at some point,
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and he called me up and was like, here's the idea.
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We think you'd be perfect to do this, And so
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I did up a bunch of sketches and most of
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which ended up in the first book. But in the
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end Google decided like that they didn't they weren't going
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to use the idea for whatever reason, and which at
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first was super disappointing. But then I realized, you know, well,
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one of my publishers, Chronicle Books, has done a lot
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of Star Wars books. Maybe they could take this idea
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to Lucasfilm and we could see if, like, we could
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make a whole book out of this. And so that
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that's what we did, and Lucasfilm liked it. And you
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know the rest is history.
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So yeah, I was gonna say, taking you to Lucasfilm.
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I think just that idea probably excited you too, write
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to know that, well, if they like it, now you've
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got something.
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Right, Yeah, I mean, and I knew that, you know,
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it's you're you're not going to be able to like
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I wasn't just going to be able to like send
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something into LUCASLM, like, hey, I've got this idea, Like
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if Lucasfilm, especially now with Disney, you know, if they
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if that was their submission policy, like nothing would ever
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have happened, like like everyone's job would just be reading submissions, right.
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So yeah, So it was fortunate that you know, I
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had the relationship with The Chronicle and then they had
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the relationship with Lucasfilm to kind of have that door open.
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And the main point of the book for me was
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writing for adults like myself who grew up with Star
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Wars and were now having kids, and so as a
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Star Wars fan, I you know, I was fairly confident that,
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you know that Lucasfilm would like the idea. Like whether
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or not they were up for having it be a
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book was you know, like the question mark. But it
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was a period before Disney had purchased Lucasfilm and they
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were still open maybe a little more to doing some
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things kind of outside the box. And it was kind
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of the right the right timing and the right situation
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and everything that it all just came together.
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Yeah, it's like everything had to the galaxies had to
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come together, right from the stick workouts. You know when
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I read that book now and you touched on something there,
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you know, when you're a father, you know, like it's
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that I got this book before my daughter was born,
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you know, five years ago, but I picked it up yesterday.
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I mean, even stuff now that I'm reading because after
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five years of having a little one running around, Like
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the Privacy one is my favorite, because I don't know
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how many times I'm in the bathroom or in the
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showers something and should just open the door and come
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in there and start telling me about something that's exciting
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for her. It's like you've got to get out of here. Yeah.
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So there's so many things that are just so relatable.
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I'm sure that's part of what got you to write it,
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because you're relating to a lot of it as well.
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Yeah, I mean so you know that at the time,
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my son was four years old, and I was just
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basically just pulled everything just straight from life. And I mean,
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coming from a history of doing autobiographical comics, you know,
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I've always been interested in work that feels personal. So
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even if I'm going to do something like Star Wars,
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I want it to be personal in a way beyond
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just like the fact that I love the Star Wars
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and have known these characters my whole life and all that.
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And I wanted to ask you to, as you said earlier,
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you started drawing. Who are some of your favorite ones
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to draw early on? Was it always Darth Vader?
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Was it Luke?
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And who are some of the characters you really had
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an attachment to?
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I mean, Ewoks, we're big anything from haff like I
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love drawing like you know, like the Rebel Soldiers and
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and ad Ats and snow Speeders and Yoda also and
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then beyond that, just you know, hath, Ewoks and Yoda
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are probably like the big three when I look through
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those old drawings.
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So should we be looking for a Grandpa Palpatine book.
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I don't know if I want it. I don't know
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if anybody wants that, because it's controversial. Now many people
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like that storyline, but it's an obvious one.
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Yeah, you know, it's you know, it's it's tough, like
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the with the books, you've you've got to you've got
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to find the right kind of it's the word, like
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just the right kind of idea to fit everything together.
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So so Darth, Vader and Sun was easy because it's
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it's a little obvious, and then Vader's little princess, Like
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then it's just you know, going to Princess Leo and adding.
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The most recent one is is Mandalorian and Child with
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Grogu and Mandalorian. It's a it's a similar kind of
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parenting storyline, but Grogu is younger than in the book,
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and it's also it's like because it's like a surrogate parent.
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It's there's like it's just there's just like a slight difference.
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So it's like finding that right kind of that right
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spot to make all the jokes work for me as
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as I'm creating, it is tough, and so I'd actually
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thought about like the grandparents angle actually when I was
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working on Ray and Pals. So the book with the
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sequel trilogy and the like, it just didn't seem to
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click right for me, Like I just didn't find the
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right kind of entry point to fit in the grandparents right.
481
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As you can't force it, yeah, to use the word force,
482
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you can't force it in there pun intended. You've got
483
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.839
to let it happen naturally, right and if it doesn't work,
484
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it doesn't work.
485
00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:08.119
You can't try you can really do or.
486
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Do not or it screwing up all the lines. But yeah,
487
00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:14.599
I mean I like I said that the Darth Vader
488
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and Son book is my introduction to your work. And
489
00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:17.880
you know, once I read that, I was like, Wow,
490
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this is really great. I need to follow up and
491
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:22.079
look at more stuff. I need to get the Princess
492
00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:24.519
Leiah version you're talking about earlier. And like I said,
493
00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.319
being a parent, it's just so relatable and obviously you
494
00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:29.480
found a way to connect that. And that's is that
495
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kind of your niche to some people come to you
496
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:32.839
when if you hear reactions in these books like oh,
497
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I'm a father or I'm a mother and I have
498
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kids and this book really spoke to me as well
499
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as being a Star Wars fan or a Batman fan.
500
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Yeah, the biggest and maybe like the best response that
501
00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:47.480
comes to me is and it's from both sides, both parents,
502
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and I've I've had you know, like adult kids, so
503
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like kids in college.
504
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So I guess not really kids like kids to me
505
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because I'm old now.
506
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But you know, like like you have people who who
507
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are like connecting with their parents through the books and
508
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parents who are connecting with their kids through the books,
509
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.319
and so it's kind of like this, uh, this this
510
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great thing where the books bring bring families together and
511
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which is really like kind of a cheesy, cheesy thing
512
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to say, but anyway, and it wasn't like, again, that
513
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wasn't my plan. My plan. I wanted it to be
514
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for I was writing for basically myself, and I was
515
00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:31.519
just having fun drawing Star Wars, right, But yeah, that's
516
00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.319
I think that's the the big thing is the how
517
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the books have kind of connected different generations.
518
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:40.279
Oh for sure. And you know you talked about bringing
519
00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:42.599
families together, and you know, you, me and my daughter
520
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will watch Star Wars when it's on, like tat will
521
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have like a weekend we're just like playing all of
522
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them and we'll pick and choose which ones we leave
523
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on and uh, and it's it does bring it together
524
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and she likes it. You know, when Mermaid's not on
525
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or you know, maybe you're Disney princessing, it's probably more
526
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important to her. But you know, she'll let Daddy watch
527
00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.279
Star Wars or Superman if it comes or whatever. Like
528
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:06.000
whatever I'm into. Sometimes I'll pop up and I think,
529
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:08.640
like you're doing with the books, like you're creating both
530
00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:10.519
worlds and people who grew up like me with comic
531
00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:13.240
books and superheroes and all that, and kids can also
532
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:15.440
get into I think it. There's something to that, and
533
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:17.759
I think that's why this book resonates with me and
534
00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:19.799
a lot of other people, and obviously with yourself. You're
535
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.599
getting the great reactions you have. And man, this Batman
536
00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.240
book is really great. I just finished reading it the
537
00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:27.599
other day. So it's when I get to titled Everybody, Batman,
538
00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:30.920
Robin and Howard Summer Breakdown, and it's it's a story.
539
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.559
It's not just little humorous little panels you've done in
540
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the past. This is actually a full story here. And
541
00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:39.000
I really like the dynamic of It's similar with the
542
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Darth Vader ones. Like Batman's a struggling parent. He's trying
543
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:43.000
to figure out how do I you can relate this
544
00:24:43.240 --> 00:24:46.079
everyday life Batman's you know, he's got a the mother
545
00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:48.279
of his child is not really with him and Italia
546
00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:50.640
and they're kind of figuring out how to raise Damien
547
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:53.240
and this kid. Howard is in the mix and talk
548
00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.039
about just the concept of this book and how I
549
00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:57.519
first came to the idea of doing something like this.
550
00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:01.480
Yeah, so DC had yours years back when they first
551
00:25:01.839 --> 00:25:06.920
started making a push to have more younger reader books specifically,
552
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.319
and there's an editor who had come from actually from
553
00:25:11.319 --> 00:25:14.759
working with Disney who knew my work, and she was
554
00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:19.640
inviting different authors also, like not authors who work like
555
00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:24.839
your your traditional like DC Marvel writers and artists, and
556
00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.559
she asked if I would be interested in doing something,
557
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.000
and like I was always more of a Marvel guy
558
00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:34.079
to be, to be honest, but except for Batman. And
559
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:36.640
so so I was like, yeah, I want to I
560
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:38.799
want to do a Batman book. And so then again
561
00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.119
it's like you know, finding like what is well, what
562
00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:44.079
is my Batman book? And what happened was I had
563
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.799
this idea for a story about like two teenage kids,
564
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.160
and it's like it was the idea was like would
565
00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.240
be like a comedy movie that I would write someday
566
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:56.440
like like you know, like ten Things I Hate about
567
00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:57.680
you or can't hardly wait.
568
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Like those classic uh teen rom coms.
569
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.680
But the idea was that, like, there's this hot shot
570
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.319
kid into high school and then a new kid comes,
571
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and the new kid's even more of a hot shot
572
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.599
and like and like and like and like they're so
573
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.920
they have this you know, the rivalry and even though
574
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.519
like everyone else is like you, why you guys should
575
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:18.559
totally be best friends?
576
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:19.400
What's going on here?
577
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:21.640
And so I had this kind of this kind of
578
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:25.119
basic storyline, and I realized, like, oh, what if, like
579
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.680
I took that story one of those kids was Damien
580
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:31.880
Wayne Robin and and he's like this new kid coming
581
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to this high school and then and then I get
582
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.279
to add Batman and so it kind of came together
583
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.799
like pretty pretty quickly. And so the first book was
584
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.519
kind of establishing the characters the original Batman and Robin
585
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:44.759
and Howard, and then I had signed on to do
586
00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:45.640
two books with DC.
587
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:47.799
So the second book, I was.
588
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Like, well, there's all these other DC characters I could explore,
589
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.079
and so I was trying to like come up with
590
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:56.960
an idea and again, like as as we mentioned like
591
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trying to force it, and then I just kept thinking, like,
592
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.200
you know what, like why am I trying to I
593
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.880
really just want to write another Batman and Robin and
594
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:08.200
Howard book. And so I kind of took some of
595
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:10.799
the elements of one of the ideas I had and
596
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.279
reworked it for Robin and Howard, and I think the like, again,
597
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.880
this is another book too where I try to bring
598
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.039
in the personal. So like my with their Fader and son,
599
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.319
My my older son was four years old when I
600
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:25.079
was writing that, and then when I was writing the
601
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.680
when I started working on the Batman and Robin and
602
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:31.079
Howard stories, my older son was you know, in middle school,
603
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.839
high school, and so so I kind of based Batman
604
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:37.440
on myself where it's like not that I think I'm cool,
605
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.519
but when I go speak at elementary schools, like the kids,
606
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.079
the kids there think I'm really cool, right, Like they're
607
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.720
like this is this is the guy that wrote these books,
608
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.799
and that's really cool. But my son does not think
609
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.720
I'm cool, Like he's like, oh my god, I am
610
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.680
totally embarrassing to him. And so like that was that
611
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:57.799
was like kind of the basic ideas, like you know,
612
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.319
it's like Batman is like, he's like so awesome. But
613
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.720
to his teenage son, I was like, oh my gosh, dad,
614
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:06.759
why do you keep telling everyone you're Batman?
615
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.480
How did you say that? Reading his book giving me
616
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.599
a whole different perspective. On the rooftop visits, they would
617
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:14.440
have Batman's like, all right, get up on the rooftop.
618
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.200
You gotta we gotta have a chet. Yeah you know
619
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.160
there's cles down there. No, no, no, listen to me.
620
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.000
You got to listen to your mother, and you.
621
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:24.119
Know, yeah, so yeah, I just tried to channel like,
622
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.799
you know, like that great like awkward awkward dad moments,
623
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:30.559
you know, and then it's it's just yeah, it's fun
624
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.759
to draw Batman and rob.
625
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.000
It and you're listening to the infant.
626
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.119
Third up on the show. Here is another flashback. Ira Hayden,
627
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.119
who was in Knight Mnomes She Part three. He was
628
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:45.759
in Father of the Bride. He was in the ol
629
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.359
viral movie Mistress of the Dark. Really fun talking with him.
630
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:49.480
Man.
631
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.119
He was on my Halloween episode last year and I
632
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.720
was sticking back. You know how he talks about going
633
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:56.720
to conventions and stuff, and he had a funny story
634
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.440
about how it was seen from Father the Bride come convention,
635
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.640
somebody brought a prop based on his his scene from
636
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:05.759
that movie, so let him talk about it. So check
637
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.720
it out here, Ira Hayden here on the Infinite Banter podcast.
638
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.759
And then then I got to have a small part
639
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.160
in a movie called Father of the Bride.
640
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:14.799
Yeah.
641
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.160
Man, So Steve Martin is one of my all time
642
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.079
favorite anything. I'm not just comedians. The Jerk is like
643
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.720
my favorite comedy. I have some of his albums And
644
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.920
when I saw that movie, I remember the first time
645
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:28.480
in that scene with the hot dog buns, were just
646
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.759
going ballistic about the amounts of buns and there just
647
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.880
talk about working with Steve Martin in that movie and
648
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:37.160
getting that, you know, that role to play that that
649
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:37.839
scene with him.
650
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.920
So I'm trying to remember if it was the costume
651
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:47.799
designer on on Elvira who told me that I should
652
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.279
audition for that movie Father of the Bride. So I
653
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.119
went in and I was put on tape, and then
654
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:57.079
they brought me back and they they cast me, and
655
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.599
I'm thinking, Okay, you know, I'm not a huge line
656
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.759
or it's like a like a maybe ten pagde scene
657
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.160
or somethinghere our ten ten lines in that scene.
658
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.039
But I'll do it sure, you know, with Steve Martin, to.
659
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.440
Be you know, on there with him, it'd be amazing because,
660
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.680
like much like you, growing up, he was my favorite comedian.
661
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.680
Him and George Carlin used to watch Steve on Saturday Night.
662
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:25.119
Live, you know, wild and crazy guys and excuse me.
663
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:29.319
Stick yeah.
664
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:30.000
Yeah.
665
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.960
So I once I got the job, I was super psyched.
666
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.200
And then my first line in the movie is excuse me, sir,
667
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.440
what are you doing? So I think I'm going to
668
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.799
be funny Mark. And We're going through rehearsal again early
669
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.519
in the morning, seven o'clock or so, and I meet
670
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.680
Steve for the first time, and the director says, all right,
671
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.200
let's just run this rehearsal and action, and so I
672
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:57.759
yell as loud as I can excuse me, it's yeah,
673
00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:59.279
but nobody else really laughed.
674
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.880
Oh good thing.
675
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:04.920
It was.
676
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:07.799
It was bad, but I got a smirk out of Steve,
677
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.119
and then U they said all right, let's try it again.
678
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.079
So but then on I didn't do any silly stuff.
679
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.000
I'm straight laced now. I'm just gonna do through the line.
680
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:20.279
And you know what though, I mean, I'm sure Steve
681
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:23.039
appreciate even though he maybe didn't show an over the
682
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:24.319
top gesture that he did.
683
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.519
But yeah, I think I think somewhere deep down he
684
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:28.480
did appreciate it.
685
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:32.880
That's great. Excuse that's oh man, that's.
686
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.839
And I've ran into him several times since and how
687
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.640
I usually start my excuse me, Steve, we worked together
688
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.079
on Father Oh yeah, so how are you good to
689
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:41.400
see you?
690
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.480
That's great. And he's right about the hot dog bun
691
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.319
count too, So that is a dilemma for many people
692
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:49.400
who it's a problem.
693
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:50.680
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
694
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:54.079
It's a conspiracy. The hot dog people and the buns
695
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:55.319
people got together.
696
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:58.000
And they do they think the American people are just
697
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:01.440
a bunch of trusting knit with Oh you know something, Mark,
698
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.279
that's at I was at I think again, wasn't No,
699
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.759
it wasn't So. I was in I was in Chicago.
700
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.880
I was at Days of the Dead, and this family
701
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.759
came to me with their uh ten year old uh huh,
702
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.720
and they wanted to record me saying my lines. And
703
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.279
he did the full on Steve Martin lines monologue. He
704
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.359
memorized it all. It was amazing.
705
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.240
Did he bring like a pack of hot dog buns
706
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:28.880
with him for you to sign no.
707
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.680
No, he just did the lines. But it was great.
708
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:35.680
That's awesome. Yeah. See, and that little scene, you know,
709
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.759
it's just a small part of that movie, but it
710
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:41.960
resonates years and years later, and I think it it's
711
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.079
just great. That's awesome, and I wish I would have
712
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.200
seen it that days of a dead convention. One of
713
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.119
these days, you'll probably make it back out to Chicago.
714
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:50.960
There's always an excuse to come out here, man.
715
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.359
So I'll have I'm sure I will be back.
716
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.319
Yes, there you go, speaking of the eighties, we'll be back.
717
00:32:56.319 --> 00:33:00.319
It'll be come in the conventions. There you go. Yes,
718
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:02.480
you were almost up for that part.
719
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.440
You just didn't quite know most it just wasn't bulking
720
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:06.920
up enough.
721
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.240
I'm guessing the main thing you do is get pictures
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from like ren ELM. Street, right, the scene with you
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and Freddy going at it.
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Yeah, Hallway, that's pretty much. I'd say about seventy percent.
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I have signed a couple of Zapped Again posters. I
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have signed a few DVDs from Illegally Yours, and a
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bunch of posters for Alvira. I do very like eight
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by tens of those. Some some pictures from that movie,
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which is great.
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After you did Part three, was there a point where
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you started to get recognized or like when you're walking
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down the street, maybe someone says, oh, that's that's the guy,
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that's the wizard guy from Part three? Was there was
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there like a change in you know, your life as
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far as that goes.
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I mean not in a huge way, but yeah, when
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I especially when I would be out of town, out
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of LA because you know, in LA you could see
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George glunated Starbucks, Definitely it was like, oh, oh you
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were the guy.
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Yeah, Oh my gosh, I liked I loved you in
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that movie. You were so good.
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Yeah.
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So definitely getting recognized a little more, right, and it's fun.
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It's nice, yeah man. And did you have any idea
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if you would be in part four? Was it always
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written at your character would not survive three because some
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of them went on to part four.
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And yeah, it was always written that way, And Chuck
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Russell even said that the editors said that they're not
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going to like the fact that they killed me.
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They should have brought me back. But it's all right.
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I went out with a with style, I guess.
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Oh yeah.
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The wheelchair was souped up.
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Man.
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It had like spikes on the on the wheels and
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it was something straight out of like Pit my right
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or something. It was pretty Yeah, it was huge.
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It was a huge They had two of them and
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they were huge and heavy.
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Yeah.
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Man, he definitely gave Freddy the first couple of jabs
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in that movie because he went down eventually. So you
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got you were the first one to really take a
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punch at him.
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So I tried, yeah, because yeah, because I think after
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my death, is Jennifer Rubin right with the uh.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's a kid. I
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was what we were saying movie eighty seven, so I
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was like maybe.
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Yeah. Came out in February eighty seven.
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I think I was like twelve years old or something,
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and I remember watching it and I'm like, this is
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a drug thing. This is crazy, all right. Yeah, such
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a such a great movie. I just remember fondly of
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that film and of this Freddy series. It is probably
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my favorite. The first one's obviously to win. Most people
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like the most. But there's something special about you guys,
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you know, with that Part three Dream Warriors movie just
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an all time classic.
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Mm hmm, thanks man, Hi, It's Russell Todd.
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I want you to check out Infinite Banter and I
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just did a podcast with Mark and you'll know me
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from Friday the Thirteenth, Part two, Chopping Mall. He knows
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You're alone, Another World, the soap Opera and NBC and
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a few other things. So hope you enjoy it.
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It's time for you to leave Aholes.
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That is Kirk Krassovato. Tell me to get the heck
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out of here. Need is exactly what I'm going to do.
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But as usual, I have one last thing before I go,
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before he slams the door on me. So people listening
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to this show they know I'm a huge Friday thirteenth
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Jason fan. Like Slash movies in general, Jason himself is
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that guy.
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For me.
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It's anything he does. I'm watching it. I'm fully aware
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that not everybody's a fan or not. Everything that's Jason
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related is good, but I don't care, still watch it whatever.
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So just recently Angry Orchard and I don't know how
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they got involved. It's a alcoholic beverage. First of all,
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there's drinks out there. I got to get to my
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local binnies and see they have them. Where there's cans
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of this Angry Orchard cider with Jason on them. So
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I gotta go get some, try it and maybe do
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a review on the podcast. Here they are sponsoring this
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new fifteen minutes short, So it's fifteen minutes. It's shorter
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than this episode you're listening to. You can go on
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YouTube just type in Sweet Revenge Jason and you'll find it.
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It's not called Friday thirteenth, but it's part of the universe.
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It's it's Cannon and it basically is a really quick
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story of you know, a bunch of people go to
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the camp Crystal Lake and thing happened. I mean, there's
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really nothing new in that idea of it. There's a
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lot of controversy about the mask. Some people don't like
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the mask as much. I think it's fine. I think
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they can make it a little bit better. So the
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main character in this short, she's on a boat. She
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falls into the lake because Jason grabs her, and she
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comes out of the lake and you're like, wow, she
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made it. She's alive. Not really, she's alive, but she's
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like zombifide or something like, she's not normal. And they're
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kind of putting out there that The idea is that
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Crystal Lake has some sort of like magical powers, that
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somebody dies in that lake, they come back as like
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this zombie killer, which Jason has been throughout all these
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movies and never explained why he doesn't die or you know,
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why he survived drownding in that lake, and I think
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that's what they're trying to do here, they're setting up
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I'm not sure if I'm a fan of this kind
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of way of doing it, but it was pretty cool,
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and you know, there's some really cool kill scenes in it.
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Hard to really get attached to any of the characters.
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You only have really like twelve thirteen minutes to even
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get to know any of them before the credits are rolling.
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So I definitely recommend anybody out there watching if you
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got fifteen minutes, go check out Sweet Revenge. I've got
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to find some Jason cans from Angry Orchard. I want
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to try this stuff. I guess I gotta keep the can.
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I guess because he's on the cover of it. So
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definitely go check it out. It's on YouTube. It's free,
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so you do a lot worse things you could do
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with your fifteen minutes and watch a little Jason and
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sip something from Angry Orchard. Give me some sponsors Angry
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Orchard for saying your name like four times in his podcast.
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All right, that's it for me. Definitely go check out
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fan Expo when it come to a town near you.
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Fanexpo HQ dot com. Big up to them for the
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invite to the Fanexpo convention. My thanks to past guest
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Jeffrey Brown, Jason Moore, and Ira Hyden. You heard them
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in his podcast here. And as cool Kim once accused
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me of when I asked him to the drop for
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a two hundred episode, Yeah, he just reworks old material
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and somehow got to two hundred episodes. Not quite true,
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but it is today because this is a rework definitely
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recycled material. But whatever, who cares you do six years?
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It is the two hundred episodes and then you could
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do some reusing of content. I don't see what the
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problem with that would be, right, Shout out to my
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man Cool Kam. All right, big up everywhere. Check out
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the show. You can find that on all podcasts platforms.
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Rate and review the show social media at Infinite Banter podcast,
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go on YouTube. Type of Infinite Banter. The's episodes on
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there and the New Things and Stuff review show where
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I talk about bibbleheads and figures and things like that.
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So go check me out on there, and check out
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the sponsor superseven dot com slash Infinite Banter podcast, Big
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Up the Fan Xpo Fanexpo HQ dot com. And so
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I do another one of these, trying to find me
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something to drinks. Let's go get that Jason Angry Orchard,
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all right, I'm.
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Out hey, assol, get off the road. Being on the
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Infinite Fana with my man Mark has been a pleasure.
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Hey there, this is Ira Hayden, the wizard Master from
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Nightmare on Elm Street Part three, and you are listening
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to the Infinite Banter podcast. And remember, whatever you do,
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don't follow.
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Asleep Infinite Banter podcast. Baby.
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Here it is another episode of the Infinite Banter Podcast.
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What is going on? My name is Mark Jolaffe also
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known as DJ Soundwave also known as DJ Bloombox. Shout
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out to Blue Temple from The Walking Dead for calling
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me that this episode here is a specific special episode
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that's just about comic book conventions and the most reason
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when I went to Fan Expo here in Chicago went
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to that convention, and I want to focus this episode
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on my experience there, and I'll bring back a couple
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of snippets of interviews I've done in the past that
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our comic book convention related. So in this episode here,
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not only wull I be talking about attending Fan Expo,
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but we'll bring back interviews from Jeffrey Brown who was
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on the podcast last fall, Jason Moore, who I met
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at a convention years ago in the early days of
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doing this, and then Ira Haydn, who is on my
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Halloween episode last fall as well. So stay tuned. We
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got interviews from them coming up here. Definitely re using
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some content to create kind of a standalone comic book
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convention episode. But before we go forward, we always go back.
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And on the last episode, I had ultramag seven on
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the culture Clip King. He has a way of just
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making clips on social media and reworking old music and
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videos and kind of creating something new out of it,
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and he was on the show the last episode. Had
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a blast talking with him. Here's a clip from that
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past episode. Chance check it out here you go flashback
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Ultramax seven on the most recent episode of the Infinite
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Banter podcast Flashback.
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Yeah, I do. I do these.
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I guess what people call a mashup, and I got
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known for that during I Guess the pandemic. Even still now,
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I mean, people have discovering me. But I went from
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like no followers to I think I'm hovering around sixty
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thousand or something just from I always say it to
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people doing these dumb little videos and the like, they're
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not dumb, and I'm like, just for me, because it
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was me sitting in the house just being bored, just bored,
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and you know, I just I thought that there was
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this hip hop. I guess in my mind, I thought
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there was some hip hop thing building on social media
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and I wanted to be a part of it. But
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I guess that was just an algorithm with all the
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people I was following.
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Just there you go. Definitely go back and check out
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that episode if you not had a chance a lot
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of fun talk with Ultramax seven follow him online Ultramax
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you can see all his cool clips and everything, and
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check out his podcast, The Prospective Podcast, and he's also
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featured on the It's Sea Doc Again podcast every Tuesday
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on Instagram, So check him out. Big shout out to
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him for coming on the show. But as I'd mentioned,
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this is an episode dedicated to conventions, and most recently
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I went to the Fan Expo.
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Here.
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They call it Chicago, but it's Rosemont. It's not really Chicago.
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It's on the outskirts of Chicago Northwest suburbs. The first
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convention I went to was in two thousand and four.
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It's called wizard World, and some years later wizard World
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no longer was the thing, and now that convention is
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called fan Expo. So it's considered the longest running convention
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in the Chicago area. Even though it's under a different name,
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different management title, all that stuff, but the elements are
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still there. You've got vendors, comic books and toys and
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figures and things. You've got local artists, and you've got
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name artists, and you've got celebrities and cosplayers. Everything you
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expect at a convention you definitely get at the Fan Expo.
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The only one that even is close to competing with
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it is c Tweet two, which happens in usually in
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late spring early spring in the Chicago area at the
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McCormick Place. So I definitely had a Blasko in the
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fan XBO. I appreciate the invite, and you know, having
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the podcast come out there, saw some really cool cos players.
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If you follow me on Instagram at Infinite Banter podcast,
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you'll see that I posted a bunch of pictures from
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different people who were dressed up at the convention. I've
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been going to these things for so long that it's
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been like twenty years of going to these conventions, and
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you know, as I get older, it's like, how many
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more can I do? Can I do three in a year? Anymore?
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Can I do three days? Because they go from you know,
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Friday to Saturday, to Sunday, and sometimes they're on Thursdays
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picture with him, you know, did the oh, yeah, what's
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he was, he was everywhere. So yeah, shout out to
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because I see him all the time. You know, there's
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a guy dressed up like Art the clown from Terrifire.
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that before the eighties. Feel definitely was like in that.
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asked what he or she is dressed up as. But
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that was my favorite. And the boombox speakers had like
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they were like eyes, so he would like move, so
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it was pretty cool. And the tape deck was like
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near you. I definitely suggest checking them out. Lots of celebrities,
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big name like they had a lot of Star Wars
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people there. A little bit out of my price range
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though young it's sound like that old guy, because like
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signed photograph and you know the other celebrities I met
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if you're somebody who's looking to meet you and McGregor
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or whoever from Star Wars, or you know your favorite
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compook artist, make sure you go to fanxpo HQ dot
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com and they'll be coming back to the Chicagoland area
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August fourteenth, fifteenth, and sixteenth of twenty twenty six, So
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don't sleep. Check out fanxpo. All right, let's get into
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the episode here. So, as I mentioned, I'm gonna play
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There was a short movie I was just released on
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they've got Jason cans, so I need to get those
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drink one. Maybe I'll do a review about it or
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something or whre's my guy DJ real One? Is he
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up on that Angry Orchard? Is that stuff any good?
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I have no idea. I've never had it before. So
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something like that. Really excited to talk about that. Let's
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play some interviews from the past, talk about fan Expo,
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talk about the new Jason shorts. But the show never
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begins until the one and Only who I met at
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a convention. This audio is from the c TWEE two
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convention some years back. The One and Only King from
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Yo, Yo, what's up?
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This is me DMC to K I and g the
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So the first interview I want to play is from
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when I went to the Walkers Stalker con in twenty nineteen,
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which I can't believe it's been six years already. And
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I got to talk to Kirk Osceavedo, who you hear
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every episode here at the end when he's saying it's
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time for you to leave asshole. That's from that convention.
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But I also got to meet Jason Moore. For those
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He played Curtis. He was kind of like the moral
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trying to kind of lead Frank Castle in the right direction.
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military service who had some issues. So his characters really
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pivotal to that show. And I was always hoping they'd
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bring him back. And I just saw an instagram he
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the next Punisher special. He will be acting in it again,
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reprising his role as Curtis. That's great and it made
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that interview. I haven't heard it in so long, and
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was pregnant with our daughter at the time. So our
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picture with Jason Moore is of, you know, basically, we
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got a freebie. We we got my daughter's first celebrity
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really really good dude, And this interview was a lot
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Walker Stalker con back in twenty nineteen. So here we
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alluding to how he wants to come back. Well, here's
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some news he is coming back. Here on the Infinite
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the Walking Dead convention and Jason Moore from the Punisher show.
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Glad to meet your mandates coming on.
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What's up man, It's good to be here.
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Appreciate it. The jacket. First of all, that jacket is
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something Oh yo.
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moral compass of that show. You're always in the middle
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trying to keep Frank online and Jigsaw and everything. What
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was that like playing that character?
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It was it was it was dope.
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he is a former marine, you know, so right was
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a marine, but anyway, but he was he was the
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guy that put the bad the badasses together. So the
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badasses needed him. The bad asses came to Curtis, and
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that was the beauty. That was like the best part
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of like playing Curtis is like, yeah, the punishes to
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punish them, but the punishers still need to come to
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Curtis for that guidance, that brotherhood, and so it was
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really important for Curtis to be there for them, even Billy,
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you know, even though Billy betrayed us, you know, it
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was still important for Curtis to be there for him.
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of them, and wanted to bring that out more than
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big theme of the show, and getting them to be
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like a real healed person, a better person even though
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that they're suffering.
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with the role you're playing, Like people like, oh, I
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having the one leg and everything.
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I was able to do it justice for them and
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we didn't cut any corners. And I took a real
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approach in terms of creating Curtis Oil for myself. And
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group sessions, those are all vets that are all real vets.
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to the real deal, and so they got to fill
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me in on things, We got to talk about it,
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and so there was a direct connection.
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with the Netflix. You know Punishers no longer going to
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be back. Any idea if you could do something with
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Punisher ales in the movies or anything, or.
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Listen, I don't know what they're gonna do with it.
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Dudes in suits and boardrooms make the decisions right, and
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Punishers just the latest casualty in corporate wars man, So
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I don't know what they're gonna do. They don't fill
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listen until last minute. But yeah, for the fans, which
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I am a fan two of the show in Marvel
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uh intellectual properties, I want to see it again just
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like everyone else. So hopefully they make a move and
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they get us all together again to bring bring the
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season three together.
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All right, Jason, So who is your favorite character of
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all time?
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Superhero wise Man, It's the Halt.
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It's the incredible Halt because you know he gets stronger
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as he gets angrier.
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So so you don't do that in real life?
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No, I mean I wish, but I can't. I don't
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get stronger. In fact, I get stupider and weaker if
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I get angrier. Right, relates right, right, But yeah, if
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I can, if I can be the Halt that that
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be That would be an awesome thing. And yeah, that's
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always been my favorite ones, even since Luke for Ringo.
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I's a little kid watching Luke turned It like I
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was like, yea, come on a right, Yeah, they need
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to remake it and that's that's how they need to
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do it. They need to do it and they need
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to they need to show that off because they haven't
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done it and all of the halt it's always been
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cgi but they never they never, they never really explored
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much of that and I'm still waiting for that to happen.
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So Avengers, I want to see if that happens in
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the Avengers game where he takes on Thanos and he
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just gets angrier and because you know his boys is gone,
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some of this boys is going, and then he just
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he's able to catch racks.
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Makes you want to boke up and then put some
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green makeup.
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Man, like, Yeah, it's one of my favorite dog. It's
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like it's because the dude grows gets stronger. It's like
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everything as a kid you want to do right.
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It should be unstoppable.
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He should be unstoppable.
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Yeah, And before I go, just tell me what you're
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working on. What can't people see Jason Moore doing next.
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Yes, So I got Honor Monk Thieves coming out, which
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is a film that I'm starting in, and uh ep
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on that one, and uh that's in post production now,
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so that one's gonna be coming out. And I got
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some other stuff. I can't talk about it yet. We'll
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watch out, Yeah, to watch.
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Out for it. Some things should be hitting the trade. So, okay, I.
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Really appreciate you coming on the podcast.
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No, I no problem, man, Thanks for having me appreciate it.
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Thank you so much. Hey, y'all, Sleuth Temple Axel from
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The Walking Dad and you're listening to the Infinite Manter Podcast.
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Keep listening, you follow me.
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So here's another interview I've done on the podcast. Here.
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This is with Jeffrey Brown. He's an artist and a
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comic book writer. He was on the show back in
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the fall episode one ninety five if you want to
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check out the full episode. Had a blast talking with him.
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He's done so much cool work Darth Vader AND's son.
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His books are aimed. I guess you can say they're
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aimed at kids, but I think adults like myself can
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really appreciate it. Because one we're comic book nerds and
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we like Star Wars and Batman and stuff, but they
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come from an angle of like being a dad or
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a mom or someone with kids, so it's kind of
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helping both sides of He's found a way like a
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niche there with his books. So definitely a big fan
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of his work, and I was excited to have him
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on the show, you know, back last fall. So here's
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a segment I did with him talking about doing Star
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Wars books as well as his newer book, Batman Robin
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and Howard Summer Breakdown. Really great book. Definitely go check
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it out. He has a newer X Men book that's
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out as well. He just does great work. He finds
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a way to kind of juggle something that kids could
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read and adults can still get into the same time.
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It's not very easy. He's found a way to do that,
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and a big salute to Jeffrey Brown. So go ahead
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and check him out. Jeffrey browncomics dot com. And here's
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a segment from my interview with him last fall here
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on the Infinite Banter podcast.
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Started doing some autobiographical comics, you know, adult relationship stories
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just about awkward everyday moments, and I was doing those
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when I had the opportunity to do something for Google
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for their homepage. They had the idea of doing something
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with Luke Scawalker and Darth Vader and how awkward an
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everyday moment would be between the two of them. And
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so normally there's a there's a whole team of people
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at Google that create the Google doodles, but everyone's a while,
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they'll invite outside artists to draw something. And I'd met
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the guy that runs the doodle team at some point,
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and he called me up and was like, here's the idea.
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We think you'd be perfect to do this, And so
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I did up a bunch of sketches and most of
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which ended up in the first book. But in the
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end Google decided like that they didn't they weren't going
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to use the idea for whatever reason, and which at
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first was super disappointing. But then I realized, you know, well,
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one of my publishers, Chronicle Books, has done a lot
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of Star Wars books. Maybe they could take this idea
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to Lucasfilm and we could see if, like, we could
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make a whole book out of this. And so that
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that's what we did, and Lucasfilm liked it. And you
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know the rest is history.
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So yeah, I was gonna say, taking you to Lucasfilm.
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I think just that idea probably excited you too, write
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to know that, well, if they like it, now you've
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got something.
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Right, Yeah, I mean, and I knew that, you know,
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it's you're you're not going to be able to like
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I wasn't just going to be able to like send
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something into LUCASLM, like, hey, I've got this idea, Like
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if Lucasfilm, especially now with Disney, you know, if they
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if that was their submission policy, like nothing would ever
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have happened, like like everyone's job would just be reading submissions, right.
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So yeah, So it was fortunate that you know, I
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had the relationship with The Chronicle and then they had
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the relationship with Lucasfilm to kind of have that door open.
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And the main point of the book for me was
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writing for adults like myself who grew up with Star
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Wars and were now having kids, and so as a
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Star Wars fan, I you know, I was fairly confident that,
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you know that Lucasfilm would like the idea. Like whether
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or not they were up for having it be a
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book was you know, like the question mark. But it
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was a period before Disney had purchased Lucasfilm and they
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were still open maybe a little more to doing some
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things kind of outside the box. And it was kind
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of the right the right timing and the right situation
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and everything that it all just came together.
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Yeah, it's like everything had to the galaxies had to
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come together, right from the stick workouts. You know when
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I read that book now and you touched on something there,
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you know, when you're a father, you know, like it's
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that I got this book before my daughter was born,
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you know, five years ago, but I picked it up yesterday.
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I mean, even stuff now that I'm reading because after
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five years of having a little one running around, Like
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the Privacy one is my favorite, because I don't know
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how many times I'm in the bathroom or in the
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showers something and should just open the door and come
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in there and start telling me about something that's exciting
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for her. It's like you've got to get out of here. Yeah.
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So there's so many things that are just so relatable.
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I'm sure that's part of what got you to write it,
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because you're relating to a lot of it as well.
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Yeah, I mean so you know that at the time,
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my son was four years old, and I was just
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basically just pulled everything just straight from life. And I mean,
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coming from a history of doing autobiographical comics, you know,
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I've always been interested in work that feels personal. So
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even if I'm going to do something like Star Wars,
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I want it to be personal in a way beyond
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just like the fact that I love the Star Wars
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and have known these characters my whole life and all that.
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And I wanted to ask you to, as you said earlier,
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you started drawing. Who are some of your favorite ones
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to draw early on? Was it always Darth Vader?
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Was it Luke?
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And who are some of the characters you really had
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an attachment to?
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I mean, Ewoks, we're big anything from haff like I
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love drawing like you know, like the Rebel Soldiers and
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and ad Ats and snow Speeders and Yoda also and
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then beyond that, just you know, hath, Ewoks and Yoda
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are probably like the big three when I look through
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those old drawings.
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So should we be looking for a Grandpa Palpatine book.
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I don't know if I want it. I don't know
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if anybody wants that, because it's controversial. Now many people
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like that storyline, but it's an obvious one.
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Yeah, you know, it's you know, it's it's tough, like
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the with the books, you've you've got to you've got
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to find the right kind of it's the word, like
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just the right kind of idea to fit everything together.
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So so Darth, Vader and Sun was easy because it's
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it's a little obvious, and then Vader's little princess, Like
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then it's just you know, going to Princess Leo and adding.
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The most recent one is is Mandalorian and Child with
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Grogu and Mandalorian. It's a it's a similar kind of
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parenting storyline, but Grogu is younger than in the book,
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and it's also it's like because it's like a surrogate parent.
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It's there's like it's just there's just like a slight difference.
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So it's like finding that right kind of that right
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spot to make all the jokes work for me as
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as I'm creating, it is tough, and so I'd actually
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thought about like the grandparents angle actually when I was
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working on Ray and Pals. So the book with the
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sequel trilogy and the like, it just didn't seem to
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click right for me, Like I just didn't find the
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right kind of entry point to fit in the grandparents right.
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As you can't force it, yeah, to use the word force,
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you can't force it in there pun intended. You've got
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to let it happen naturally, right and if it doesn't work,
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it doesn't work.
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You can't try you can really do or.
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Do not or it screwing up all the lines. But yeah,
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I mean I like I said that the Darth Vader
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and Son book is my introduction to your work. And
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you know, once I read that, I was like, Wow,
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this is really great. I need to follow up and
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look at more stuff. I need to get the Princess
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Leiah version you're talking about earlier. And like I said,
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being a parent, it's just so relatable and obviously you
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found a way to connect that. And that's is that
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kind of your niche to some people come to you
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when if you hear reactions in these books like oh,
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I'm a father or I'm a mother and I have
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kids and this book really spoke to me as well
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as being a Star Wars fan or a Batman fan.
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Yeah, the biggest and maybe like the best response that
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comes to me is and it's from both sides, both parents,
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and I've I've had you know, like adult kids, so
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like kids in college.
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So I guess not really kids like kids to me
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because I'm old now.
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But you know, like like you have people who who
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are like connecting with their parents through the books and
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parents who are connecting with their kids through the books,
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and so it's kind of like this, uh, this this
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great thing where the books bring bring families together and
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which is really like kind of a cheesy, cheesy thing
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to say, but anyway, and it wasn't like, again, that
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wasn't my plan. My plan. I wanted it to be
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for I was writing for basically myself, and I was
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just having fun drawing Star Wars, right, But yeah, that's
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I think that's the the big thing is the how
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the books have kind of connected different generations.
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Oh for sure. And you know you talked about bringing
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families together, and you know, you, me and my daughter
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will watch Star Wars when it's on, like tat will
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have like a weekend we're just like playing all of
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them and we'll pick and choose which ones we leave
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on and uh, and it's it does bring it together
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and she likes it. You know, when Mermaid's not on
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or you know, maybe you're Disney princessing, it's probably more
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important to her. But you know, she'll let Daddy watch
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Star Wars or Superman if it comes or whatever. Like
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whatever I'm into. Sometimes I'll pop up and I think,
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like you're doing with the books, like you're creating both
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worlds and people who grew up like me with comic
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books and superheroes and all that, and kids can also
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get into I think it. There's something to that, and
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I think that's why this book resonates with me and
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a lot of other people, and obviously with yourself. You're
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getting the great reactions you have. And man, this Batman
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book is really great. I just finished reading it the
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other day. So it's when I get to titled Everybody, Batman,
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Robin and Howard Summer Breakdown, and it's it's a story.
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It's not just little humorous little panels you've done in
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the past. This is actually a full story here. And
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I really like the dynamic of It's similar with the
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Darth Vader ones. Like Batman's a struggling parent. He's trying
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to figure out how do I you can relate this
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everyday life Batman's you know, he's got a the mother
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of his child is not really with him and Italia
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and they're kind of figuring out how to raise Damien
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and this kid. Howard is in the mix and talk
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about just the concept of this book and how I
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first came to the idea of doing something like this.
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Yeah, so DC had yours years back when they first
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started making a push to have more younger reader books specifically,
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and there's an editor who had come from actually from
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working with Disney who knew my work, and she was
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inviting different authors also, like not authors who work like
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your your traditional like DC Marvel writers and artists, and
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she asked if I would be interested in doing something,
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and like I was always more of a Marvel guy
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to be, to be honest, but except for Batman. And
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so so I was like, yeah, I want to I
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want to do a Batman book. And so then again
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it's like you know, finding like what is well, what
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is my Batman book? And what happened was I had
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this idea for a story about like two teenage kids,
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and it's like it was the idea was like would
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be like a comedy movie that I would write someday
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like like you know, like ten Things I Hate about
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you or can't hardly wait.
568
00:25:57.599 --> 00:26:00.880
Like those classic uh teen rom coms.
569
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:03.680
But the idea was that, like, there's this hot shot
570
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.319
kid into high school and then a new kid comes,
571
00:26:06.440 --> 00:26:08.400
and the new kid's even more of a hot shot
572
00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:11.599
and like and like and like and like they're so
573
00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:14.920
they have this you know, the rivalry and even though
574
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.519
like everyone else is like you, why you guys should
575
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:18.559
totally be best friends?
576
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:19.400
What's going on here?
577
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:21.640
And so I had this kind of this kind of
578
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:25.119
basic storyline, and I realized, like, oh, what if, like
579
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.680
I took that story one of those kids was Damien
580
00:26:27.759 --> 00:26:31.880
Wayne Robin and and he's like this new kid coming
581
00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:33.920
to this high school and then and then I get
582
00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.279
to add Batman and so it kind of came together
583
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.799
like pretty pretty quickly. And so the first book was
584
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.519
kind of establishing the characters the original Batman and Robin
585
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:44.759
and Howard, and then I had signed on to do
586
00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:45.640
two books with DC.
587
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:47.799
So the second book, I was.
588
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.720
Like, well, there's all these other DC characters I could explore,
589
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:53.079
and so I was trying to like come up with
590
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:56.960
an idea and again, like as as we mentioned like
591
00:26:57.119 --> 00:27:00.759
trying to force it, and then I just kept thinking, like,
592
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.200
you know what, like why am I trying to I
593
00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:05.880
really just want to write another Batman and Robin and
594
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:08.200
Howard book. And so I kind of took some of
595
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:10.799
the elements of one of the ideas I had and
596
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.279
reworked it for Robin and Howard, and I think the like, again,
597
00:27:15.319 --> 00:27:17.880
this is another book too where I try to bring
598
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.039
in the personal. So like my with their Fader and son,
599
00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.319
My my older son was four years old when I
600
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:25.079
was writing that, and then when I was writing the
601
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.680
when I started working on the Batman and Robin and
602
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:31.079
Howard stories, my older son was you know, in middle school,
603
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:34.839
high school, and so so I kind of based Batman
604
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:37.440
on myself where it's like not that I think I'm cool,
605
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:41.519
but when I go speak at elementary schools, like the kids,
606
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.079
the kids there think I'm really cool, right, Like they're
607
00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.720
like this is this is the guy that wrote these books,
608
00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.799
and that's really cool. But my son does not think
609
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.720
I'm cool, Like he's like, oh my god, I am
610
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.680
totally embarrassing to him. And so like that was that
611
00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:57.799
was like kind of the basic ideas, like you know,
612
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.319
it's like Batman is like, he's like so awesome. But
613
00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:04.720
to his teenage son, I was like, oh my gosh, dad,
614
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:06.759
why do you keep telling everyone you're Batman?
615
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.480
How did you say that? Reading his book giving me
616
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.599
a whole different perspective. On the rooftop visits, they would
617
00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:14.440
have Batman's like, all right, get up on the rooftop.
618
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.200
You gotta we gotta have a chet. Yeah you know
619
00:28:17.039 --> 00:28:19.160
there's cles down there. No, no, no, listen to me.
620
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.000
You got to listen to your mother, and you.
621
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:24.119
Know, yeah, so yeah, I just tried to channel like,
622
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:27.799
you know, like that great like awkward awkward dad moments,
623
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:30.559
you know, and then it's it's just yeah, it's fun
624
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.759
to draw Batman and rob.
625
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.000
It and you're listening to the infant.
626
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.119
Third up on the show. Here is another flashback. Ira Hayden,
627
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:44.119
who was in Knight Mnomes She Part three. He was
628
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:45.759
in Father of the Bride. He was in the ol
629
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:49.359
viral movie Mistress of the Dark. Really fun talking with him.
630
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:49.480
Man.
631
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.119
He was on my Halloween episode last year and I
632
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:54.720
was sticking back. You know how he talks about going
633
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:56.720
to conventions and stuff, and he had a funny story
634
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.440
about how it was seen from Father the Bride come convention,
635
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.640
somebody brought a prop based on his his scene from
636
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:05.759
that movie, so let him talk about it. So check
637
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:08.720
it out here, Ira Hayden here on the Infinite Banter podcast.
638
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.759
And then then I got to have a small part
639
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.160
in a movie called Father of the Bride.
640
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:14.799
Yeah.
641
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.160
Man, So Steve Martin is one of my all time
642
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.079
favorite anything. I'm not just comedians. The Jerk is like
643
00:29:20.119 --> 00:29:23.720
my favorite comedy. I have some of his albums And
644
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.920
when I saw that movie, I remember the first time
645
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:28.480
in that scene with the hot dog buns, were just
646
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:31.759
going ballistic about the amounts of buns and there just
647
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:34.880
talk about working with Steve Martin in that movie and
648
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:37.160
getting that, you know, that role to play that that
649
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:37.839
scene with him.
650
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.920
So I'm trying to remember if it was the costume
651
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:47.799
designer on on Elvira who told me that I should
652
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.279
audition for that movie Father of the Bride. So I
653
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:53.119
went in and I was put on tape, and then
654
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:57.079
they brought me back and they they cast me, and
655
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.599
I'm thinking, Okay, you know, I'm not a huge line
656
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:02.759
or it's like a like a maybe ten pagde scene
657
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.160
or somethinghere our ten ten lines in that scene.
658
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:09.039
But I'll do it sure, you know, with Steve Martin, to.
659
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.440
Be you know, on there with him, it'd be amazing because,
660
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.680
like much like you, growing up, he was my favorite comedian.
661
00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:19.680
Him and George Carlin used to watch Steve on Saturday Night.
662
00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:25.119
Live, you know, wild and crazy guys and excuse me.
663
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:29.319
Stick yeah.
664
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:30.000
Yeah.
665
00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.960
So I once I got the job, I was super psyched.
666
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.200
And then my first line in the movie is excuse me, sir,
667
00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:38.440
what are you doing? So I think I'm going to
668
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.799
be funny Mark. And We're going through rehearsal again early
669
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.519
in the morning, seven o'clock or so, and I meet
670
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.680
Steve for the first time, and the director says, all right,
671
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.200
let's just run this rehearsal and action, and so I
672
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:57.759
yell as loud as I can excuse me, it's yeah,
673
00:30:57.759 --> 00:30:59.279
but nobody else really laughed.
674
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.880
Oh good thing.
675
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:04.920
It was.
676
00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:07.799
It was bad, but I got a smirk out of Steve,
677
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.119
and then U they said all right, let's try it again.
678
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:13.079
So but then on I didn't do any silly stuff.
679
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.000
I'm straight laced now. I'm just gonna do through the line.
680
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:20.279
And you know what though, I mean, I'm sure Steve
681
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:23.039
appreciate even though he maybe didn't show an over the
682
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:24.319
top gesture that he did.
683
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:27.519
But yeah, I think I think somewhere deep down he
684
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:28.480
did appreciate it.
685
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:32.880
That's great. Excuse that's oh man, that's.
686
00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.839
And I've ran into him several times since and how
687
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:38.640
I usually start my excuse me, Steve, we worked together
688
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:41.079
on Father Oh yeah, so how are you good to
689
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:41.400
see you?
690
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:45.480
That's great. And he's right about the hot dog bun
691
00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:48.319
count too, So that is a dilemma for many people
692
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:49.400
who it's a problem.
693
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:50.680
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
694
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:54.079
It's a conspiracy. The hot dog people and the buns
695
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:55.319
people got together.
696
00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:58.000
And they do they think the American people are just
697
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:01.440
a bunch of trusting knit with Oh you know something, Mark,
698
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:05.279
that's at I was at I think again, wasn't No,
699
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.759
it wasn't So. I was in I was in Chicago.
700
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.880
I was at Days of the Dead, and this family
701
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.759
came to me with their uh ten year old uh huh,
702
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.720
and they wanted to record me saying my lines. And
703
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.279
he did the full on Steve Martin lines monologue. He
704
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:25.359
memorized it all. It was amazing.
705
00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.240
Did he bring like a pack of hot dog buns
706
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:28.880
with him for you to sign no.
707
00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:31.680
No, he just did the lines. But it was great.
708
00:32:32.119 --> 00:32:35.680
That's awesome. Yeah. See, and that little scene, you know,
709
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.759
it's just a small part of that movie, but it
710
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:41.960
resonates years and years later, and I think it it's
711
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.079
just great. That's awesome, and I wish I would have
712
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.200
seen it that days of a dead convention. One of
713
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:49.119
these days, you'll probably make it back out to Chicago.
714
00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:50.960
There's always an excuse to come out here, man.
715
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.359
So I'll have I'm sure I will be back.
716
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:56.319
Yes, there you go, speaking of the eighties, we'll be back.
717
00:32:56.319 --> 00:33:00.319
It'll be come in the conventions. There you go. Yes,
718
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:02.480
you were almost up for that part.
719
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:06.440
You just didn't quite know most it just wasn't bulking
720
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:06.920
up enough.
721
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.240
I'm guessing the main thing you do is get pictures
722
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.400
from like ren ELM. Street, right, the scene with you
723
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:15.759
and Freddy going at it.
724
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:20.880
Yeah, Hallway, that's pretty much. I'd say about seventy percent.
725
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.640
I have signed a couple of Zapped Again posters. I
726
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.559
have signed a few DVDs from Illegally Yours, and a
727
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:33.920
bunch of posters for Alvira. I do very like eight
728
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:37.440
by tens of those. Some some pictures from that movie,
729
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:38.160
which is great.
730
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.000
After you did Part three, was there a point where
731
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.279
you started to get recognized or like when you're walking
732
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.960
down the street, maybe someone says, oh, that's that's the guy,
733
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:48.319
that's the wizard guy from Part three? Was there was
734
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:50.839
there like a change in you know, your life as
735
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:51.559
far as that goes.
736
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.799
I mean not in a huge way, but yeah, when
737
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.960
I especially when I would be out of town, out
738
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.640
of LA because you know, in LA you could see
739
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:04.559
George glunated Starbucks, Definitely it was like, oh, oh you
740
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:05.079
were the guy.
741
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.039
Yeah, Oh my gosh, I liked I loved you in
742
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:08.159
that movie. You were so good.
743
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:08.880
Yeah.
744
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:13.840
So definitely getting recognized a little more, right, and it's fun.
745
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.719
It's nice, yeah man. And did you have any idea
746
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:18.480
if you would be in part four? Was it always
747
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:20.920
written at your character would not survive three because some
748
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.559
of them went on to part four.
749
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:26.199
And yeah, it was always written that way, And Chuck
750
00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:29.119
Russell even said that the editors said that they're not
751
00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:30.800
going to like the fact that they killed me.
752
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:32.840
They should have brought me back. But it's all right.
753
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:35.039
I went out with a with style, I guess.
754
00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:35.480
Oh yeah.
755
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:36.760
The wheelchair was souped up.
756
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:36.960
Man.
757
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.400
It had like spikes on the on the wheels and
758
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:41.840
it was something straight out of like Pit my right
759
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.159
or something. It was pretty Yeah, it was huge.
760
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.880
It was a huge They had two of them and
761
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.239
they were huge and heavy.
762
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:49.760
Yeah.
763
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.079
Man, he definitely gave Freddy the first couple of jabs
764
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.800
in that movie because he went down eventually. So you
765
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:57.159
got you were the first one to really take a
766
00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:57.800
punch at him.
767
00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:02.320
So I tried, yeah, because yeah, because I think after
768
00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:04.840
my death, is Jennifer Rubin right with the uh.
769
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.360
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's a kid. I
770
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.199
was what we were saying movie eighty seven, so I
771
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:11.840
was like maybe.
772
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:14.039
Yeah. Came out in February eighty seven.
773
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:15.719
I think I was like twelve years old or something,
774
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:17.440
and I remember watching it and I'm like, this is
775
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.519
a drug thing. This is crazy, all right. Yeah, such
776
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.320
a such a great movie. I just remember fondly of
777
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:26.159
that film and of this Freddy series. It is probably
778
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.480
my favorite. The first one's obviously to win. Most people
779
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:31.239
like the most. But there's something special about you guys,
780
00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:33.800
you know, with that Part three Dream Warriors movie just
781
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:34.840
an all time classic.
782
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.519
Mm hmm, thanks man, Hi, It's Russell Todd.
783
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:39.480
I want you to check out Infinite Banter and I
784
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.079
just did a podcast with Mark and you'll know me
785
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.159
from Friday the Thirteenth, Part two, Chopping Mall. He knows
786
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.280
You're alone, Another World, the soap Opera and NBC and
787
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:51.159
a few other things. So hope you enjoy it.
788
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:52.800
It's time for you to leave Aholes.
789
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:54.719
That is Kirk Krassovato. Tell me to get the heck
790
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:56.440
out of here. Need is exactly what I'm going to do.
791
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.039
But as usual, I have one last thing before I go,
792
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.920
before he slams the door on me. So people listening
793
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.480
to this show they know I'm a huge Friday thirteenth
794
00:36:04.599 --> 00:36:07.719
Jason fan. Like Slash movies in general, Jason himself is
795
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:08.119
that guy.
796
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:08.400
For me.
797
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:11.320
It's anything he does. I'm watching it. I'm fully aware
798
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:15.119
that not everybody's a fan or not. Everything that's Jason
799
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.639
related is good, but I don't care, still watch it whatever.
800
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:21.639
So just recently Angry Orchard and I don't know how
801
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.800
they got involved. It's a alcoholic beverage. First of all,
802
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.960
there's drinks out there. I got to get to my
803
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.079
local binnies and see they have them. Where there's cans
804
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.280
of this Angry Orchard cider with Jason on them. So
805
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:34.719
I gotta go get some, try it and maybe do
806
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.639
a review on the podcast. Here they are sponsoring this
807
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:42.639
new fifteen minutes short, So it's fifteen minutes. It's shorter
808
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.840
than this episode you're listening to. You can go on
809
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:48.400
YouTube just type in Sweet Revenge Jason and you'll find it.
810
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.239
It's not called Friday thirteenth, but it's part of the universe.
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It's it's Cannon and it basically is a really quick
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story of you know, a bunch of people go to
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the camp Crystal Lake and thing happened. I mean, there's
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really nothing new in that idea of it. There's a
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lot of controversy about the mask. Some people don't like
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the mask as much. I think it's fine. I think
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they can make it a little bit better. So the
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main character in this short, she's on a boat. She
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falls into the lake because Jason grabs her, and she
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comes out of the lake and you're like, wow, she
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made it. She's alive. Not really, she's alive, but she's
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like zombifide or something like, she's not normal. And they're
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kind of putting out there that The idea is that
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Crystal Lake has some sort of like magical powers, that
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somebody dies in that lake, they come back as like
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this zombie killer, which Jason has been throughout all these
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movies and never explained why he doesn't die or you know,
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why he survived drownding in that lake, and I think
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that's what they're trying to do here, they're setting up
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I'm not sure if I'm a fan of this kind
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of way of doing it, but it was pretty cool,
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and you know, there's some really cool kill scenes in it.
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Hard to really get attached to any of the characters.
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You only have really like twelve thirteen minutes to even
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get to know any of them before the credits are rolling.
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So I definitely recommend anybody out there watching if you
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got fifteen minutes, go check out Sweet Revenge. I've got
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to find some Jason cans from Angry Orchard. I want
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to try this stuff. I guess I gotta keep the can.
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I guess because he's on the cover of it. So
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definitely go check it out. It's on YouTube. It's free,
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so you do a lot worse things you could do
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with your fifteen minutes and watch a little Jason and
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sip something from Angry Orchard. Give me some sponsors Angry
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Orchard for saying your name like four times in his podcast.
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All right, that's it for me. Definitely go check out
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fan Expo when it come to a town near you.
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Fanexpo HQ dot com. Big up to them for the
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invite to the Fanexpo convention. My thanks to past guest
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Jeffrey Brown, Jason Moore, and Ira Hyden. You heard them
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in his podcast here. And as cool Kim once accused
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me of when I asked him to the drop for
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a two hundred episode, Yeah, he just reworks old material
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and somehow got to two hundred episodes. Not quite true,
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but it is today because this is a rework definitely
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recycled material. But whatever, who cares you do six years?
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It is the two hundred episodes and then you could
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do some reusing of content. I don't see what the
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problem with that would be, right, Shout out to my
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man Cool Kam. All right, big up everywhere. Check out
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the show. You can find that on all podcasts platforms.
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Rate and review the show social media at Infinite Banter podcast,
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go on YouTube. Type of Infinite Banter. The's episodes on
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there and the New Things and Stuff review show where
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I talk about bibbleheads and figures and things like that.
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So go check me out on there, and check out
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the sponsor superseven dot com slash Infinite Banter podcast, Big
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Up the Fan Xpo Fanexpo HQ dot com. And so
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I do another one of these, trying to find me
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something to drinks. Let's go get that Jason Angry Orchard,
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all right, I'm.
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Out hey, assol, get off the road. Being on the
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Infinite Fana with my man Mark has been a pleasure.