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All right, good morning, everybody.
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It is June 7th, and this is another episode of In the Name of Wax.
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Okay, June 7th.
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Born today, Dean Martin in 1917, Rocky Graciano in 1922, Tom Jones in 1940, Clarence White of the Birds in 1944, Krautzman from The Grateful Dead was born today in 1946.
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And then Prince was born today.
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Nice.
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And I there's probably a lot of people that don't know Prince's full name.
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But Prince's full name is Prince Rogers Nelson in 1960.
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Nice.
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Yeah, I didn't know his full name either.
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Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people did.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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One person died today, and that was Claudette Orbison, Roy Orbison's wife, in a motorcycle accident in 1966.
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Um events for today.
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Um the YMCA is nationally established in 1854.
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They've been around a while.
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Yeah, I didn't know they was that old.
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Right.
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And on this date, the Rolling Stones make their first TV appearance on Thank Your Lucky Stars in 1963.
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Also on this date, Blind Faith appears for the first time in public at London's Hyde Park for 150,000 fans in 1969.
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And the last event of today, pretty cool, is the Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash TV special airs on ABC in 1969.
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So there's some cool stuff in 1969 on this day.
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And that is it.
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Alright.
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In the name of Wax is an exclusive record club for music lovers of the analog format through sharing experiences, memories, discoveries, and emotions tied to the albums.
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Our goal is to build continued appreciation for forgotten bands and members by understanding more of their histories and connections.
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We reinforce our bond with club members for love of the groove.
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So for this episode, it'll just be Jerry and myself.
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Justin is out with family for today.
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So yeah, just in case people were wondering.
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Yep.
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This this band, well, I've I've kind of thought about this band every once in a while.
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Like punk music comes up, and when that does, I usually I'll think about this band.
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I'm like, yeah, I should talk about this band.
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Um, so that's what I'm doing.
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It's uh I've got three albums by this band.
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Um it's kind of interesting.
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I don't know.
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I mean, some people will probably have heard of uh the main guy of the band, uh, Danny Elfman.
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And what he's highly regarded for is music soundtracks.
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Um basically had he has kind of a theater group that kind of did like movie soundtracks, and there's about 30-some movies or something like that.
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And they were all like major movies that this guy he was quite sought after for doing movie soundtracks.
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Anyway, his theater group, they just started performing, did some live stuff, and then they decided, you know, well, we're just gonna start, you know, making some albums.
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And I thought to myself, I've thought this before too.
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If there was a category of a band that's name was the funnest name to say, this would be the band for me.
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Um uh and I don't know if you've ever heard uh you maybe have heard of him, uh.
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No.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's well, it was like Oingo Boingo came from there was like something in one of their movie soundtracks or something that they got the name from.
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Anyway, they put out I don't know how many albums, probably maybe a dozen albums, I'm thinking.
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Uh the one I really wanted to talk about is is my favorite album by them for sure, is their 1985 album.
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And you might remember me mentioning this album like a while back because I always like to pull this album out on Halloween.
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It's uh Oingo Boingo's uh Dead Man's Party.
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The the song Dead Man's Party is a very good song.
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Their 1985 album is kind of the the one that most people like of their albums.
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Um is a cool punk.
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They call themselves like New Wave Skop, you know, punk.
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You know, I don't know where you draw the line between New Wave and Punk, really.
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But so yeah, Oingo Boingo, great punk band.
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If you can get the 1985 uh one, uh Dead Man's Party, great cover, too.
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It's like a bunch of people all dressed up having a party, but they're all skeletons.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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Super fun album.
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Great.
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It's I'm glad I have it with kind of that other punk stuff I got in that box a while back.
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So that was one of the bands I wanted to just highlight the band, Oingo Boingo.
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Yeah, that's I never get tired of saying their name.
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Okay, well, I'll turn it over to you for your album that you had there.
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Um this is uh an album that was pressed on Springboard Records, which I haven't I don't think I've seen anything on Springboard before.
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I've seen them there.
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You don't see it very often, but I've I've got that with some.
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Um there was a small uh guitar shop uh close to uh Cambridge, and uh he sells uh he does like guitar lessons and he sells gear and um he also sells records at his uh shop and they're typically um very very affordable.
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It's like you know two or three dollars a record basically.
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And um I probably stopped by there maybe once a week, maybe about uh a couple of years ago.
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Uh but I haven't been able to go back there recently, and I just went there maybe um a little over a month ago, maybe, and I found another uh this is a Brian Auger album, and I think this might be his early one of his earlier records.
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Um it's like it's just a photo of him with like a pink border.
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Uh this is the album that I had uh recently purchased that I hadn't I've thought I had most of Brian Augur's.
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I'm thinking he's got more than both you and I even are aware of, I'm thinking.
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Yeah, just looking at I got a feeling he's got quite a few out.
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Yeah, just looking at um uh just his Wikipedia page now, just scrolling through and just seeing the differences between where he was with the Steam Packet and then he did just With the Trinity.
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Yep uh yeah uh Trinity and uh and then Oblivion Express.
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I mean it's uh another one, it was uh Cab, and I never heard of Cab.
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I don't think I have either.
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Uh it's Tony Mac uh Mac Alpine, uh Bunny Brunel, and Dennis Chambers.
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Looks like they did uh uh four albums.
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Uh yeah, and he did like some film work, but yeah, Brian Auger, it's he's amazing.
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I haven't heard a bad album of his yet.
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It's yeah, anything if you see his name and just get it, you're guaranteed it'll be good.
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That's my feeling too.
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Yeah, and uh another part that I was excited for that I just want to just talk about it just as far as records themselves.
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Um this one, it looks the record itself looks like it's kind of in rough shape, but same thing we've and we've talked about this before, but like it played beautifully, no skips, it didn't have any issues, and I'm just like, yeah, these old albums they're tougher than people know, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So like I'm never afraid to take a chance on a record because even when I see like what do look like you know deep deeper scratches, typically they'd I've had really good luck where they just they all play pretty well.
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Yeah, so um yeah, Brian Auger, he's he's lovely.
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Yeah, you brought him up like I don't know, a week or two ago, again, whenever.
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And I keep thinking, yeah, there's probably a bunch more out there that I should maybe see if I can find really, because like you say, I like all his stuff, and well, he's got quite a bit of stuff too.
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So yeah, those teams.
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Well, um, I set that one out that you you're talking about.
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I don't remember listening when I would have listened to it, but I'll listen to it today just because you brought it up.
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Lovely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Last time I was at the Fetus, uh, I grabbed all of the Brian Augur I could find and uh the Oblivion Express.
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I think I got maybe like five or six more, and I'm like, nice.
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It's a it's a good feeling to get a good little stack like that.
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Yep, it's like a guarantee, the Brian Augur guarantee.
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Um this album, I don't know if you can remember this or not, but I remember when I got it.
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You know, I mean, we were doing Record Club, and I brought it up, you know, when just you and me were doing Record Club not recorded.
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Um I'm like, I'm like, geez, Eric, I got this album.
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I said it's really good, and all it is is like the cover, the cover is just like a big opened-end wrench with like raindrops on it.
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And I didn't really like you know research it at all.
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I did look it up on discogs, and I just put it on the back of a slip of paper.
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In the U.S., uh it was going for$352 or something like that.
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So it so I knew it was like a valuable album, and it was really good, but I didn't really check into it really any further.
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Okay, the guy that did the album, it's out of Germany, and the one I have's German, it's on uh Zebra label.
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Um anyway, the guy's name is uh Akim Reichel.
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He's a German singer, musician, producer, and songwriter from Hamburg.
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Um now, when I said the Rentz cover, did that ring a bell at all to you or no?
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Uh briefly, that it sounds familiar.
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Um Okay.
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Um, and I don't know if I relayed this back then either, but I noticed that he started out, he was the frontman for that group, The Rattles.
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Do you remember the Rattles?
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I do not.
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They they started in 1960, and they were considered one of the first psychedelic bands, and they did that song, The Witch.
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Do you remember The Witch?
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I do remember that.
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I think you texted me that.
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There's a YouTube of them out in the woods.
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It's a black and white, I mean, they didn't even have color back then.
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I mean, it's a black and white, them out in the woods, they're doing they're doing The Witch.
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And I've saved that YouTube.
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I watch it every once in a while, it's cool.
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Anyway, this guy was a front man for them.
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And they, the Rattles were also known for uh opening for the Beatles on their last European tour in 1966.
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Um okay.
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Anyway, the album with the ranch on the cover.
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It has on the handle of the wrench, it's like stamped into the ranch, capital A, period, capital R, period, and then Roma Newborn Roman numeral four.
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And that's that guy's initials.
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And he's he's a he's a Kraut Rock guy.
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Um he was with that um that other guy out of Hamburg, Germany, that Lee Humphreys.
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Um he did a bunch of psych stuff too, and he worked with John Lawton from uh uh Uriah Heap and um the group we just talked about not kidding.
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Is it uh Lucifer's Friend?
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Lucifer's Friend, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Good memory.
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That's what I okay.
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So anyway, good connections now.
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So it's called AR and the Machines is the group he made.
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He left them in 71, and then he started his own progressive Kraut Rock solo project, AR and the Machines, of which the first album, uh, it's it's in German, what it means is the Green Journey.
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And that album was critically acclaimed and likened to bands such as Kraft Work and Tangerine Dream.
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So he's done, well, he's the one that's done at least 20, closer to 30 albums, the way it looks.
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Um so anyway, this this album that I don't even know if I played it before, but it's like super good.
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Uh you know, it's heavy metal, kraut rock, it's it's great.
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And he's from Germany, so it's like one of those bands that if you look for the albums, they're only for sale in like the UK and Germany.
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There's barely any for sale in the US.
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And I don't even know where I picked this album up.
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It was just like, hey, I've never seen this before.
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It's just a picture of a wrench on the front.
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I don't know much about it.
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So I was getting into that today.
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So that was the other uh kind of banner album I just wanted to kind of highlight quick.
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Cool.
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How many albums did they do?
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Um they did uh they did well, they did one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, five, five, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty-four.
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Wow.
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Twenty-four albums.
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Okay.
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Um, those are albums he did without AR and the machines.
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With AR and the Machines, he did what one I have, five, six.
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He only did six albums with AR and the Machines.
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He did one in 71, 72, 72, 73, the one I've got, 74, and and then apparently there's a live album uh in 73.
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So AR and the Machines, great Kraut Roth.
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Um, I don't know how often you get albums from other countries, but I just hate to buy spend shipping from other countries.
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Sure, yeah.
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Uh I don't have an awful lot of stuff from other countries.
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Um I think most of the stuff I have is probably like Tangerine Dream.
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I do have some French uh psych stuff.
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Um very good because I'm gonna talk about some French, well, French actually heavy metal stuff pretty soon here.
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But yeah, I knew you had some Tangerine Dream, and you're a fan of Tangerine Dream.
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Oh, so am I.
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I think I only have one, possibly two hairs.
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But and those are, you know, kind of hard to get too, it seems like.
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Speaking of like French psych or just overseas psych, um one band that comes to my mind is um Pulsar.
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Uh they're a French psych band, and basically it sounds like Pink Floyd and King.
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Yeah, I've heard the name.
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Maybe it was from you I heard the name, I'm not sure, but yeah, I heard the name.
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I think they have like three albums.
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It's uh Pollen and Strands from the Future, and I believe another one is they did I they did a uh album called Halloween, and I don't know if that was uh it was supposed to be a soundtrack for a movie, and it's a different different movie called Halloween.
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Um and I don't have that one, so but I do have Paulin and Strands from the Future, and both are very, very great records.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Very good.
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Um so the n the last thing I was gonna talk about, and I think I brought this album up when you and I a week or two ago that I've had for probably like you know 20 years, and just kind of never got around.
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I'd said it out every once a while, listen to it, and I'll never get around to doing it.
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But anyway, um it's just a guy on the front, he's holding a guitar.
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His name's Jack Starr.
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Um he he's um he's American, but his family moved to France when he was a child.
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So he grew up in France, and you know, that's where he made his music in France.
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Um he's uh hard rock, heavy metal.
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Uh well the band I have is in 1984.
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It's called Out of the Darkness.
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Super good heavy metal stuff.
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Um and then he he he changed the name, um changed the name of this band to Jack Starr's Burning Star.
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And I didn't have Jack Star's Burning Star, that group, but I got one of those albums, and it is really good.
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Um classic American 80s heavy metal in the style between Poison and Metallica.
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Um and then it talks about him going to a couple other groups.
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Uh uh Virgin Virgin Steel, uh, that's an album.
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He was with a band called Virgin Steel.
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Um this Jack Star led me to the to this Virgin Steel uh metal band.
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And uh so Virgin Steel, they're an American heavy metal band, they're out of New York.
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Um they say he was a guitarist of French origin, which is true.
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So Jack Starr was looking for the right elements to form the ultimate heavy metal band.
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This guy is really a hard heavy metal guitarist.
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Okay, the first to answer his call was drummer Joey A.
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Vazan, and together they started jamming and auditioning singers.
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Uh, a future uh LA Guns bassist Kelly Nichols joined them in 1981, and then they auditioned around four.
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40 singers before David DeFice or Defease was introduced to Jack by a friend of Joey with an interpretation of No Quarter by Led Zeppelin, Child in Time by Deep Purple, and Catch the Rainbow by Rainbow.
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David got the vacant role of singer, bringing with him bassist Joe O'Reilly.
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At the end of 1981, the first lineup was ready.
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Okay, so in 82, they debuted their 82 album, Children of the Storm.
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This song was loved by Metallica.
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It included the compilations, uh U.S.
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Metal Volume 2.
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Okay, later they issued self-titled first album.
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Their style was and remains very original, a melding of American heavy metal and Rainbow's epic atmospheres.
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DeVice, uh, who also plays piano and keyboards, shows a particular liking for uh pompous and melodic arrangements, while Starr goes for the harder and more immediate assault.
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And this that fits so well.
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He he assaults his guitar, is what it's like.
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Uh, fan mail was becoming more interesting.
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This is early on in '82 still.
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Two letters particularly stood out in their fan mail.
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One was from a young band who were from Seattle.
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Uh their name was Queensreich.
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The other from California, also a band who called themselves Metallica.
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Yeah.
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The following year in 83, their second album, Guardians of the Flame, and I've got that album now, too.
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I've been playing it all morning.
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It's really good.
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Uh, was supported by a mini LP called Wait for the Night.
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Uh, European version.
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Okay, Jack Starr started recording.
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He would always do his solo stuff outside of whatever band he was in, too, it seemed like.
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Jack Starr started recording his own solo album, Out of the Darkness, and that's the one I have, the guy with the holding the guitar that I've had for like 20 years and never listened to it until just recently.
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Star only played with Virgin Steele for their first two albums, 82 and 83.
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Uh then he went on, okay, supporting Man of War tour.
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Uh he would, I think he came back and played with them every once in a while on some of the songs.
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Uh okay, Virgin Steel went back to Europe supporting Man of War in Uriah Heap.
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And at the beginning of '96, released The Marriage of Heaven and Help.
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So anyway, I'm a major fan of uh uh Virgin Steel.
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Yeah, Jack Star is the guy's name.
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Okay, but Virgin Steel, uh Jack Star was only on the first or played the first two albums, and I've got the second album uh that he played on.
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Um, but I've heard other just Virgin Steel without Jack Star, and they're really good too.
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Uh I found in the US it's a 3LP box set of Virgin Steel.
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It was like 23 bucks.
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Um I'm just gonna throw one thing in um that kind of applies here.
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Like every once in a while, I'll just kind of type in a question and Google it and see what comes back or whatever.
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And it was a couple days ago.
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I I just typed in um um I don't trust uh new vinyl like records, you know, new vinyl records.
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And as soon as I did, it's instantaneously an answer came back, so I knew it was like AI.
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And it said, unfortunately, you are 100% correct.
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The new vinyl uh, you know, that's being pressed, you know, they're just doing it for the money, you're making money off of it.
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The recordings are not as good.
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Um they said, if you can stick with just black vinyl, you'll be better off.
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And always avoid the colored vinyl, you know, speckled vinyl, clear vinyl, you know.
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So this three-album set, it was released in Germany October 2010, and in November 2010, it was released in the U.S.
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Now it gets really high ratings.
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All music gave it four out of five stars, and all the other ones gave it high ratings.
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Um the reception for this box set.
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It is a long album, close to eighty minutes.
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The album, to be really brief, concerns the reversal of all things.
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Once conquered by invading cultures, older pagan deities become the demons from the new religion.
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The Black Light Bucantula, that's the name of the album, something like that, is a reversal of the sacred sexual customs and the final desecration of the goddess principle, switching from uh maternal descent to male and female, whatever descent.
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Okay, with the rise of the idea of the mountain fire god, and also has to do with ancient fears, such as the fear of the sun not rising.
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Uh, lyrically, it's a kind of continuation of the story I told on the last album.
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Musically, it is quite something else.
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So I'm looking forward to this box set.
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Um, and it's got a book to it and everything.
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And I thought, well, this would be just like concept albums like that, that those are really fun to find.
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Um when you're thinking of when you're talking about like overseas psych.
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I I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner, but I was thinking like uh Nectar.
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It's another really great overseas psych band.
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Um and it's interesting, they're a German band, but they're actually American members.
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Um, but they were just uh they were just living in Germany.
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I believe they were in the military.
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And they were I think you're right.
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I think one of us covered Nectar probably was you.
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Um I've got a handful of Nectar albums too, but I'm glad you brought that up.
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I'll probably be listening to those soon, too.
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Yeah, when you're describing the concept of that Virgin Steel, it made me think of uh Nectar's first album.
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I think it's called Journey to the Center of the Eye.
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And it's uh a concept album about a human being finding like alien technology and finding his ship and using the ship but getting lost in space and trying to find your way back home, but you can't navigate this system.
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I believe the whole album is just one song.
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Oh yeah, cool.
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Yeah, I know that's that's good stuff.
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Yeah, so if you get a refine Virgin Steel, it's super good heavy metal.
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I mean, they they call themselves power power metal and heavy metal.
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Yeah, it sounds really good.
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Yeah, and that Jack Star, I mean, he does like whatever assaults his guitar.
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I mean, it's like crazy stuff.
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Listen, and I'm like, why didn't I listen?
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Why didn't I check this album out like however many years ago?
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So it's like one of those um discoveries from my living room, which are all which are super fun, yeah.
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Yeah, those are always the best.
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It's like just kind of taking deeper dives into your own collection and realizing You can always find stuff.
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You can f always find connections and different stuff.
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So how many albums of uh Virgin Steel do you have?
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Um well, the box set is coming, and one of their albums is coming, and I have one of their albums.
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Okay.
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So two single albums in the box set.
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Um but like Jack Star, the Out of the Darkness, I've got that one, and then I've got Jack Star, his other group was Burning Star.
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Yeah, Virgin Steel.
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, fifteen.
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They did fifteen albums, did a couple EPs and a couple compilations, hymns to Victory and The Book of Burning.
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So they're like, you know, mythology, heavy metal.
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How can you go wrong?
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Yeah, it sounds really great.
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I know.
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I know I was getting goosebumps listening to them like holy cow.
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And just that anything with Jack Starr is gonna be good.
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After his first two albums with Virgin Steel, he ended up suing the band over the name.
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There's not many details about it, but he won the lawsuit.
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Um, but you know, Virgin Steel went along without him and did really well themselves, anyways.
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This Jack Star was he's amazing.
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Like, like when he first started out, I read it today, he was looking for members that would be the ultimate heavy metal band.
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So his standards were really high as far as getting what he wanted.
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So especially when they when he said like getting those fan letters at like 82.
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And yeah, if Metallica was on that list at that time, it's like, yeah, there was no better compliment than that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, if you were here, I would put I would put Jackstars because I he did that solo one, that was after he left uh Virgin Steel.
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Yeah.
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I mean it's like it's so good.
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And I'm so glad you were able to record this because I don't know if I could have standed waiting another week to talk about it.
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Yeah, I'm uh I'm glad that we were able to do this.
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And it's and it's fun just even like hear about like the origins of like earlier heavy metal music, like like when I think about just heavy metal in general, like the first bands I think of are like Metallica, Megadeth, and the like later bands like Pantera, Slayer.
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Um, yeah.
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What's that?
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Slayer's a favorite of mine too.
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I've got quite a bit of theirs.
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But I did pull out uh my Metallica and my Queen's Rake.
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I got two Metallicas and three Queensrake.
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So I might be in the middle for a while, which is fine.
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Yeah, I don't really have a whole lot of metal.
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Uh I think I have like maybe two or three Iron Maiden albums.
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Um, a lot of what I have is uh cassettes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's that's another thing.
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Like uh I do have uh pretty decent like early like nineties metal stuff on cassette, but yeah, that's the the love of the platform and the format.
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Once you get going, you you don't want to stop.
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It's just god, this is good.
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Too bad uh just didn't hit the miss this week.
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That's all right.
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It's all right.
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You'll get it by proxy.
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Well, this is another episode of In the Name of Wax, and uh I will until next time.
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Talk to you later.
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Sounds good.
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Okay, Eric.
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Have a good one.
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Have a good one, Jerry.
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Yeah, yeah.
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All right, good morning, everybody.
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It is June 7th, and this is another episode of In the Name of Wax.
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Okay, June 7th.
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Born today, Dean Martin in 1917, Rocky Graciano in 1922, Tom Jones in 1940, Clarence White of the Birds in 1944, Krautzman from The Grateful Dead was born today in 1946.
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And then Prince was born today.
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Nice.
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And I there's probably a lot of people that don't know Prince's full name.
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But Prince's full name is Prince Rogers Nelson in 1960.
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Nice.
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Yeah, I didn't know his full name either.
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Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people did.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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One person died today, and that was Claudette Orbison, Roy Orbison's wife, in a motorcycle accident in 1966.
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Um events for today.
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Um the YMCA is nationally established in 1854.
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They've been around a while.
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Yeah, I didn't know they was that old.
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Right.
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And on this date, the Rolling Stones make their first TV appearance on Thank Your Lucky Stars in 1963.
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Also on this date, Blind Faith appears for the first time in public at London's Hyde Park for 150,000 fans in 1969.
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And the last event of today, pretty cool, is the Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash TV special airs on ABC in 1969.
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So there's some cool stuff in 1969 on this day.
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And that is it.
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Alright.
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In the name of Wax is an exclusive record club for music lovers of the analog format through sharing experiences, memories, discoveries, and emotions tied to the albums.
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Our goal is to build continued appreciation for forgotten bands and members by understanding more of their histories and connections.
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We reinforce our bond with club members for love of the groove.
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So for this episode, it'll just be Jerry and myself.
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Justin is out with family for today.
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So yeah, just in case people were wondering.
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Yep.
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This this band, well, I've I've kind of thought about this band every once in a while.
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Like punk music comes up, and when that does, I usually I'll think about this band.
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I'm like, yeah, I should talk about this band.
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Um, so that's what I'm doing.
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It's uh I've got three albums by this band.
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Um it's kind of interesting.
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I don't know.
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I mean, some people will probably have heard of uh the main guy of the band, uh, Danny Elfman.
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And what he's highly regarded for is music soundtracks.
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Um basically had he has kind of a theater group that kind of did like movie soundtracks, and there's about 30-some movies or something like that.
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And they were all like major movies that this guy he was quite sought after for doing movie soundtracks.
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Anyway, his theater group, they just started performing, did some live stuff, and then they decided, you know, well, we're just gonna start, you know, making some albums.
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And I thought to myself, I've thought this before too.
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If there was a category of a band that's name was the funnest name to say, this would be the band for me.
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Um uh and I don't know if you've ever heard uh you maybe have heard of him, uh.
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No.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's well, it was like Oingo Boingo came from there was like something in one of their movie soundtracks or something that they got the name from.
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Anyway, they put out I don't know how many albums, probably maybe a dozen albums, I'm thinking.
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Uh the one I really wanted to talk about is is my favorite album by them for sure, is their 1985 album.
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And you might remember me mentioning this album like a while back because I always like to pull this album out on Halloween.
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It's uh Oingo Boingo's uh Dead Man's Party.
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The the song Dead Man's Party is a very good song.
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Their 1985 album is kind of the the one that most people like of their albums.
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Um is a cool punk.
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They call themselves like New Wave Skop, you know, punk.
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You know, I don't know where you draw the line between New Wave and Punk, really.
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But so yeah, Oingo Boingo, great punk band.
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If you can get the 1985 uh one, uh Dead Man's Party, great cover, too.
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It's like a bunch of people all dressed up having a party, but they're all skeletons.
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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Super fun album.
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Great.
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It's I'm glad I have it with kind of that other punk stuff I got in that box a while back.
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So that was one of the bands I wanted to just highlight the band, Oingo Boingo.
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Yeah, that's I never get tired of saying their name.
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Okay, well, I'll turn it over to you for your album that you had there.
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Um this is uh an album that was pressed on Springboard Records, which I haven't I don't think I've seen anything on Springboard before.
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I've seen them there.
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You don't see it very often, but I've I've got that with some.
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Um there was a small uh guitar shop uh close to uh Cambridge, and uh he sells uh he does like guitar lessons and he sells gear and um he also sells records at his uh shop and they're typically um very very affordable.
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It's like you know two or three dollars a record basically.
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And um I probably stopped by there maybe once a week, maybe about uh a couple of years ago.
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Uh but I haven't been able to go back there recently, and I just went there maybe um a little over a month ago, maybe, and I found another uh this is a Brian Auger album, and I think this might be his early one of his earlier records.
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Um it's like it's just a photo of him with like a pink border.
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Uh this is the album that I had uh recently purchased that I hadn't I've thought I had most of Brian Augur's.
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I'm thinking he's got more than both you and I even are aware of, I'm thinking.
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Yeah, just looking at I got a feeling he's got quite a few out.
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Yeah, just looking at um uh just his Wikipedia page now, just scrolling through and just seeing the differences between where he was with the Steam Packet and then he did just With the Trinity.
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Yep uh yeah uh Trinity and uh and then Oblivion Express.
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I mean it's uh another one, it was uh Cab, and I never heard of Cab.
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I don't think I have either.
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Uh it's Tony Mac uh Mac Alpine, uh Bunny Brunel, and Dennis Chambers.
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Looks like they did uh uh four albums.
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Uh yeah, and he did like some film work, but yeah, Brian Auger, it's he's amazing.
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I haven't heard a bad album of his yet.
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It's yeah, anything if you see his name and just get it, you're guaranteed it'll be good.
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That's my feeling too.
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Yeah, and uh another part that I was excited for that I just want to just talk about it just as far as records themselves.
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Um this one, it looks the record itself looks like it's kind of in rough shape, but same thing we've and we've talked about this before, but like it played beautifully, no skips, it didn't have any issues, and I'm just like, yeah, these old albums they're tougher than people know, yeah.
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Yeah.
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So like I'm never afraid to take a chance on a record because even when I see like what do look like you know deep deeper scratches, typically they'd I've had really good luck where they just they all play pretty well.
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Yeah, so um yeah, Brian Auger, he's he's lovely.
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Yeah, you brought him up like I don't know, a week or two ago, again, whenever.
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And I keep thinking, yeah, there's probably a bunch more out there that I should maybe see if I can find really, because like you say, I like all his stuff, and well, he's got quite a bit of stuff too.
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So yeah, those teams.
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Well, um, I set that one out that you you're talking about.
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I don't remember listening when I would have listened to it, but I'll listen to it today just because you brought it up.
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Lovely.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Last time I was at the Fetus, uh, I grabbed all of the Brian Augur I could find and uh the Oblivion Express.
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I think I got maybe like five or six more, and I'm like, nice.
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It's a it's a good feeling to get a good little stack like that.
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Yep, it's like a guarantee, the Brian Augur guarantee.
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Um this album, I don't know if you can remember this or not, but I remember when I got it.
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You know, I mean, we were doing Record Club, and I brought it up, you know, when just you and me were doing Record Club not recorded.
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Um I'm like, I'm like, geez, Eric, I got this album.
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I said it's really good, and all it is is like the cover, the cover is just like a big opened-end wrench with like raindrops on it.
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And I didn't really like you know research it at all.
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I did look it up on discogs, and I just put it on the back of a slip of paper.
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In the U.S., uh it was going for$352 or something like that.
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So it so I knew it was like a valuable album, and it was really good, but I didn't really check into it really any further.
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Okay, the guy that did the album, it's out of Germany, and the one I have's German, it's on uh Zebra label.
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Um anyway, the guy's name is uh Akim Reichel.
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He's a German singer, musician, producer, and songwriter from Hamburg.
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Um now, when I said the Rentz cover, did that ring a bell at all to you or no?
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Uh briefly, that it sounds familiar.
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Um Okay.
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Um, and I don't know if I relayed this back then either, but I noticed that he started out, he was the frontman for that group, The Rattles.
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Do you remember the Rattles?
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I do not.
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They they started in 1960, and they were considered one of the first psychedelic bands, and they did that song, The Witch.
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Do you remember The Witch?
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I do remember that.
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I think you texted me that.
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There's a YouTube of them out in the woods.
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It's a black and white, I mean, they didn't even have color back then.
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I mean, it's a black and white, them out in the woods, they're doing they're doing The Witch.
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And I've saved that YouTube.
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I watch it every once in a while, it's cool.
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Anyway, this guy was a front man for them.
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And they, the Rattles were also known for uh opening for the Beatles on their last European tour in 1966.
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Um okay.
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Anyway, the album with the ranch on the cover.
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It has on the handle of the wrench, it's like stamped into the ranch, capital A, period, capital R, period, and then Roma Newborn Roman numeral four.
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And that's that guy's initials.
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And he's he's a he's a Kraut Rock guy.
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Um he was with that um that other guy out of Hamburg, Germany, that Lee Humphreys.
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Um he did a bunch of psych stuff too, and he worked with John Lawton from uh uh Uriah Heap and um the group we just talked about not kidding.
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Is it uh Lucifer's Friend?
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Lucifer's Friend, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Good memory.
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That's what I okay.
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So anyway, good connections now.
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So it's called AR and the Machines is the group he made.
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He left them in 71, and then he started his own progressive Kraut Rock solo project, AR and the Machines, of which the first album, uh, it's it's in German, what it means is the Green Journey.
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And that album was critically acclaimed and likened to bands such as Kraft Work and Tangerine Dream.
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So he's done, well, he's the one that's done at least 20, closer to 30 albums, the way it looks.
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Um so anyway, this this album that I don't even know if I played it before, but it's like super good.
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Uh you know, it's heavy metal, kraut rock, it's it's great.
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And he's from Germany, so it's like one of those bands that if you look for the albums, they're only for sale in like the UK and Germany.
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There's barely any for sale in the US.
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And I don't even know where I picked this album up.
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It was just like, hey, I've never seen this before.
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It's just a picture of a wrench on the front.
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I don't know much about it.
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So I was getting into that today.
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So that was the other uh kind of banner album I just wanted to kind of highlight quick.
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Cool.
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How many albums did they do?
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Um they did uh they did well, they did one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, five, five, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty-four.
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Wow.
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Twenty-four albums.
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Okay.
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Um, those are albums he did without AR and the machines.
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With AR and the Machines, he did what one I have, five, six.
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He only did six albums with AR and the Machines.
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He did one in 71, 72, 72, 73, the one I've got, 74, and and then apparently there's a live album uh in 73.
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So AR and the Machines, great Kraut Roth.
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Um, I don't know how often you get albums from other countries, but I just hate to buy spend shipping from other countries.
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Sure, yeah.
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Uh I don't have an awful lot of stuff from other countries.
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Um I think most of the stuff I have is probably like Tangerine Dream.
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I do have some French uh psych stuff.
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Um very good because I'm gonna talk about some French, well, French actually heavy metal stuff pretty soon here.
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But yeah, I knew you had some Tangerine Dream, and you're a fan of Tangerine Dream.
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Oh, so am I.
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I think I only have one, possibly two hairs.
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But and those are, you know, kind of hard to get too, it seems like.
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Speaking of like French psych or just overseas psych, um one band that comes to my mind is um Pulsar.
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Uh they're a French psych band, and basically it sounds like Pink Floyd and King.
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Yeah, I've heard the name.
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Maybe it was from you I heard the name, I'm not sure, but yeah, I heard the name.
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I think they have like three albums.
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It's uh Pollen and Strands from the Future, and I believe another one is they did I they did a uh album called Halloween, and I don't know if that was uh it was supposed to be a soundtrack for a movie, and it's a different different movie called Halloween.
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Um and I don't have that one, so but I do have Paulin and Strands from the Future, and both are very, very great records.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Very good.
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Um so the n the last thing I was gonna talk about, and I think I brought this album up when you and I a week or two ago that I've had for probably like you know 20 years, and just kind of never got around.
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I'd said it out every once a while, listen to it, and I'll never get around to doing it.
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But anyway, um it's just a guy on the front, he's holding a guitar.
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His name's Jack Starr.
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Um he he's um he's American, but his family moved to France when he was a child.
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So he grew up in France, and you know, that's where he made his music in France.
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Um he's uh hard rock, heavy metal.
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Uh well the band I have is in 1984.
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It's called Out of the Darkness.
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Super good heavy metal stuff.
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Um and then he he he changed the name, um changed the name of this band to Jack Starr's Burning Star.
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And I didn't have Jack Star's Burning Star, that group, but I got one of those albums, and it is really good.
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Um classic American 80s heavy metal in the style between Poison and Metallica.
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Um and then it talks about him going to a couple other groups.
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Uh uh Virgin Virgin Steel, uh, that's an album.
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He was with a band called Virgin Steel.
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Um this Jack Star led me to the to this Virgin Steel uh metal band.
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And uh so Virgin Steel, they're an American heavy metal band, they're out of New York.
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Um they say he was a guitarist of French origin, which is true.
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So Jack Starr was looking for the right elements to form the ultimate heavy metal band.
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This guy is really a hard heavy metal guitarist.
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Okay, the first to answer his call was drummer Joey A.
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Vazan, and together they started jamming and auditioning singers.
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Uh, a future uh LA Guns bassist Kelly Nichols joined them in 1981, and then they auditioned around four.
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40 singers before David DeFice or Defease was introduced to Jack by a friend of Joey with an interpretation of No Quarter by Led Zeppelin, Child in Time by Deep Purple, and Catch the Rainbow by Rainbow.
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David got the vacant role of singer, bringing with him bassist Joe O'Reilly.
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At the end of 1981, the first lineup was ready.
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Okay, so in 82, they debuted their 82 album, Children of the Storm.
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This song was loved by Metallica.
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It included the compilations, uh U.S.
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Metal Volume 2.
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Okay, later they issued self-titled first album.
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Their style was and remains very original, a melding of American heavy metal and Rainbow's epic atmospheres.
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DeVice, uh, who also plays piano and keyboards, shows a particular liking for uh pompous and melodic arrangements, while Starr goes for the harder and more immediate assault.
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And this that fits so well.
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He he assaults his guitar, is what it's like.
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Uh, fan mail was becoming more interesting.
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This is early on in '82 still.
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Two letters particularly stood out in their fan mail.
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One was from a young band who were from Seattle.
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Uh their name was Queensreich.
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The other from California, also a band who called themselves Metallica.
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Yeah.
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The following year in 83, their second album, Guardians of the Flame, and I've got that album now, too.
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I've been playing it all morning.
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It's really good.
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Uh, was supported by a mini LP called Wait for the Night.
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Uh, European version.
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Okay, Jack Starr started recording.
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He would always do his solo stuff outside of whatever band he was in, too, it seemed like.
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Jack Starr started recording his own solo album, Out of the Darkness, and that's the one I have, the guy with the holding the guitar that I've had for like 20 years and never listened to it until just recently.
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Star only played with Virgin Steele for their first two albums, 82 and 83.
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Uh then he went on, okay, supporting Man of War tour.
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Uh he would, I think he came back and played with them every once in a while on some of the songs.
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Uh okay, Virgin Steel went back to Europe supporting Man of War in Uriah Heap.
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And at the beginning of '96, released The Marriage of Heaven and Help.
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So anyway, I'm a major fan of uh uh Virgin Steel.
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Yeah, Jack Star is the guy's name.
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Okay, but Virgin Steel, uh Jack Star was only on the first or played the first two albums, and I've got the second album uh that he played on.
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Um, but I've heard other just Virgin Steel without Jack Star, and they're really good too.
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Uh I found in the US it's a 3LP box set of Virgin Steel.
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It was like 23 bucks.
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Um I'm just gonna throw one thing in um that kind of applies here.
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Like every once in a while, I'll just kind of type in a question and Google it and see what comes back or whatever.
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And it was a couple days ago.
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I I just typed in um um I don't trust uh new vinyl like records, you know, new vinyl records.
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And as soon as I did, it's instantaneously an answer came back, so I knew it was like AI.
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And it said, unfortunately, you are 100% correct.
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The new vinyl uh, you know, that's being pressed, you know, they're just doing it for the money, you're making money off of it.
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The recordings are not as good.
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Um they said, if you can stick with just black vinyl, you'll be better off.
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And always avoid the colored vinyl, you know, speckled vinyl, clear vinyl, you know.
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So this three-album set, it was released in Germany October 2010, and in November 2010, it was released in the U.S.
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Now it gets really high ratings.
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All music gave it four out of five stars, and all the other ones gave it high ratings.
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Um the reception for this box set.
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It is a long album, close to eighty minutes.
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The album, to be really brief, concerns the reversal of all things.
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Once conquered by invading cultures, older pagan deities become the demons from the new religion.
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The Black Light Bucantula, that's the name of the album, something like that, is a reversal of the sacred sexual customs and the final desecration of the goddess principle, switching from uh maternal descent to male and female, whatever descent.
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Okay, with the rise of the idea of the mountain fire god, and also has to do with ancient fears, such as the fear of the sun not rising.
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Uh, lyrically, it's a kind of continuation of the story I told on the last album.
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Musically, it is quite something else.
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So I'm looking forward to this box set.
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Um, and it's got a book to it and everything.
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And I thought, well, this would be just like concept albums like that, that those are really fun to find.
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Um when you're thinking of when you're talking about like overseas psych.
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I I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner, but I was thinking like uh Nectar.
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It's another really great overseas psych band.
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Um and it's interesting, they're a German band, but they're actually American members.
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Um, but they were just uh they were just living in Germany.
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I believe they were in the military.
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And they were I think you're right.
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I think one of us covered Nectar probably was you.
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Um I've got a handful of Nectar albums too, but I'm glad you brought that up.
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I'll probably be listening to those soon, too.
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Yeah, when you're describing the concept of that Virgin Steel, it made me think of uh Nectar's first album.
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I think it's called Journey to the Center of the Eye.
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And it's uh a concept album about a human being finding like alien technology and finding his ship and using the ship but getting lost in space and trying to find your way back home, but you can't navigate this system.
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I believe the whole album is just one song.
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Oh yeah, cool.
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Yeah, I know that's that's good stuff.
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Yeah, so if you get a refine Virgin Steel, it's super good heavy metal.
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I mean, they they call themselves power power metal and heavy metal.
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Yeah, it sounds really good.
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Yeah, and that Jack Star, I mean, he does like whatever assaults his guitar.
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I mean, it's like crazy stuff.
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Listen, and I'm like, why didn't I listen?
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Why didn't I check this album out like however many years ago?
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So it's like one of those um discoveries from my living room, which are all which are super fun, yeah.
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:08.000
Yeah, those are always the best.
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It's like just kind of taking deeper dives into your own collection and realizing You can always find stuff.
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You can f always find connections and different stuff.
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So how many albums of uh Virgin Steel do you have?
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Um well, the box set is coming, and one of their albums is coming, and I have one of their albums.
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Okay.
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So two single albums in the box set.
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Um but like Jack Star, the Out of the Darkness, I've got that one, and then I've got Jack Star, his other group was Burning Star.
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Yeah, Virgin Steel.
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, fifteen.
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They did fifteen albums, did a couple EPs and a couple compilations, hymns to Victory and The Book of Burning.
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So they're like, you know, mythology, heavy metal.
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How can you go wrong?
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Yeah, it sounds really great.
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I know.
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I know I was getting goosebumps listening to them like holy cow.
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And just that anything with Jack Starr is gonna be good.
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After his first two albums with Virgin Steel, he ended up suing the band over the name.
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There's not many details about it, but he won the lawsuit.
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Um, but you know, Virgin Steel went along without him and did really well themselves, anyways.
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This Jack Star was he's amazing.
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Like, like when he first started out, I read it today, he was looking for members that would be the ultimate heavy metal band.
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:21.519
So his standards were really high as far as getting what he wanted.
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:27.759
So especially when they when he said like getting those fan letters at like 82.
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:35.599
And yeah, if Metallica was on that list at that time, it's like, yeah, there was no better compliment than that.
00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:36.720
Yeah.
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:38.160
Yeah.
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I mean, yeah, if you were here, I would put I would put Jackstars because I he did that solo one, that was after he left uh Virgin Steel.
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:50.960
Yeah.
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.359
I mean it's like it's so good.
00:33:55.599 --> 00:34:03.279
And I'm so glad you were able to record this because I don't know if I could have standed waiting another week to talk about it.
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:06.400
Yeah, I'm uh I'm glad that we were able to do this.
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:27.039
And it's and it's fun just even like hear about like the origins of like earlier heavy metal music, like like when I think about just heavy metal in general, like the first bands I think of are like Metallica, Megadeth, and the like later bands like Pantera, Slayer.
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:31.599
Um, yeah.
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:32.639
What's that?
00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:34.960
Slayer's a favorite of mine too.
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:36.880
I've got quite a bit of theirs.
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.880
But I did pull out uh my Metallica and my Queen's Rake.
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:47.119
I got two Metallicas and three Queensrake.
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.199
So I might be in the middle for a while, which is fine.
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.840
Yeah, I don't really have a whole lot of metal.
00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:58.000
Uh I think I have like maybe two or three Iron Maiden albums.
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:04.639
Um, a lot of what I have is uh cassettes.
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:05.599
Yeah.
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:07.280
Yeah, that's that's another thing.
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:20.480
Like uh I do have uh pretty decent like early like nineties metal stuff on cassette, but yeah, that's the the love of the platform and the format.
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.079
Once you get going, you you don't want to stop.
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:25.920
It's just god, this is good.
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:31.360
Too bad uh just didn't hit the miss this week.
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:32.239
That's all right.
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:32.719
It's all right.
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:34.400
You'll get it by proxy.
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:40.960
Well, this is another episode of In the Name of Wax, and uh I will until next time.
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:42.239
Talk to you later.
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:43.199
Sounds good.
00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:44.159
Okay, Eric.
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:45.199
Have a good one.
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:46.239
Have a good one, Jerry.
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:47.360
Yeah, yeah.
