ABOUT THIS EPISODE
In this episode I spoke to Nicky Goulimis, co-founder and CEO of TunicPay, about why she started a second company, what TunicPay is building, and how they’ve managed to land some of the UK’s biggest banks as customers in under three years.
Here’s what we covered:
• What it’s really like to start a second company
• The difference between fraud and scams
• Why all of the fraud defences banks have built over 20 years don’t work for scams
• How TunicPay’s payment context protocol works
• Who should bear liability for scams
• How TunicPay landed major UK banks as their first customers, and how they navigated those organisations
• How they’re thinking about entering the US market, where the bank liability model is completely different
• Why Nicky thinks FinTech has been unambitious about scams, and what she’d like to see
If you work in financial services, fraud, or payments - or if you’ve ever been close to being scammed - you should listen to this episode.
Timestamps:
00:00 Nicky's Entrepreneurial Journey
13:05 Solving scams
20:18 Understanding Liability in Fraud Prevention
25:15 Stopping scams in real time
32:06 Navigating Partnerships with Major Banks
38:12 Expanding into the U.S. Market
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