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Welcome to L Top, providing Broadcoat country with their takes and analysis from coast to coast.
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So let's run it, wrap up, protect your chains, and make sure your Broadcoat coverage isn't.
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Hello, listeners, and welcome back to the Incomplete podcast.
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Where your coast to coast hosts provides you with news, coverage, and opinions of all things Denver Broncos, plus anything else that's on our minds.
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I am Ty, and I'm joined by my wonderful co-host and best friend Kelly.
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It has been a long time since we were last here.
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With the Broncos going getting to the AFC Championship game, I would have thought they would have made a lot of moves, but they mostly stayed pat.
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The patience of Broncos Country was tested all winter and into spring.
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Yeah, so it's a testament that Sean is gonna roll the dice with who he has.
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And you know, to be fair, we gave Sean Payton a lot of slack when he's like, I can take this team to the Super Bowl.
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And we were like, really?
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This team?
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Are you sure?
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And you know, I I think we would have made it if if Bo hadn't if the refs knew how to call a holding in the end zone.
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Um and unfortunately Bo didn't go down.
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So him kind of staying the course and staying with this personnel really speaks to how much he believes that.
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Absolutely.
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I think it shows a lot of I I I want to say I think I'm gonna use the word trust here.
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That he that he's got the team that he needs.
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It's just like a few couple pieces that need to be adjust uh, we'll call it adjusted, not exactly fixed.
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But the picture's a little crooked.
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We gotta, you know, straighten up the frame.
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Yep, gotta straighten out the frame just a little bit.
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Um, but before we do recap everything that has happened, with this being our off-season episode, not to mention the finale of season seven.
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And it was such a great one.
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We do have a special guest to help break it all down.
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He is the host of two podcasts covering Colorado Sports, a lifelong Broncos fan and very knowledgeable of the Broncos.
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One podcaster I saw last night on Twitter says he is very dreamy.
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Incomplete listeners and viewers, we like to welcome David to the podcast.
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Thanks for having me, guys.
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I'm excited to be here.
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Thank you.
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We're so happy you're here.
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We are so very happy you're here.
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Um, my understanding is that with the Broncos, you got started not too long ago and you've had quite a bit of um following.
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Yeah, who would have thought?
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You know, uh this has kind of been a childhood dream, I guess, that I've been like trying to get back in touch with.
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I had a YouTube channel called Bronco Boy when I was like 14 or 15 years old, right when uh Josh McDaniels took over.
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I was doing these videos on like trying to convince myself that Kyle Orton was gonna be a good quarterback.
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That channel didn't last very long.
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So after I started getting into YouTube a little bit, you know, I'm like, I need to see if I can do this for real.
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And uh it's it's been fun, it's been fun meeting a lot of Broncos fans all over the country.
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It's it's made my experience as a fan so much more rich.
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So um I love connecting with you guys, and I I can't wait to talk about the team.
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We're excited to have you.
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I'm curious to hear about all that has happened with the team and your thoughts on it.
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And of course, Kelly and I have talked a little bit here and there, so I'm very curious to hear your in-depth and analysis on all of it.
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Oh man, well, where to start?
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It's probably been one of the weirdest offseasons, I feel like we've had uh definitely, you know, a broken ankle away from the Super Bowl, right?
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Maybe a shot put pass away from the Super Bowl.
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Uh away from the Super Bowl.
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Right, just gonna say that.
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All these things, you know, it was uh, I I think some of us, including myself, you know, I was expecting like a ton of moves.
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But looking back, the most important thing was that we got another big time wide receiver.
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So we got that in Jalen Waddell, and uh, you know, we'll see.
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I think that they feel like they were so close.
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So Sean Payton's saying, hey, we'll run it back with what I think 20 out of our 22 starters or something close like that.
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And hopefully we can have a little bit more depth behind everything, and and that will be what puts us over the top.
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But if we don't win the Super Bowl this year, I I think that there will be some more changes rather than seeing you know one free agent signing uh this year.
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It's crazy that Tyson Anderson is our only free agent signing, and he might not like he's coming in to compete for a roster spot at the safety position.
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So we could be in a world in which really our just our new players were the you know six or seven players, I think that we drafted, and then uh Jalen Waddle, and that's about it.
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Pretty weird off season, very weird indeed.
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Which speaking of Jalen Waddle, let's just jump right into it.
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So perhaps so when free agency started, um they well, there was like the tampering period, so day one tampering period, nothing happens.
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They do the tampering period, nothing happens.
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The offseason starts, still nothing.
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I think we went almost a week without anything happening, minus the re-signing, and then all of a sudden, one random I think it was a Tuesday, Tuesday afternoon, an alert comes up.
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The Broncos have traded for Dolphins wide receiver Jalen Waddell for and they also got a fourth round pick out of it.
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In exchange, we gave up uh our first round pick this year, our third round pick this year, and our fourth round pick this year as well.
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It was pretty much basically a swap of fourth rounders.
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Um so I have to ask, let's go around the room.
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When we heard that Jalen Waddell was gonna be a Denver Bronco, what were our first reactions?
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I thought about time we had our own like speedster version of like Tyreek Hill.
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That guy was just always a terrible man to guard, and we needed some juice, some speed.
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And uh I think we went from maybe kind of a I mean, I like all of our wide receivers, I like Cortland Sutton, you know, I like all these guys that we got, but didn't necessarily maybe have that top-end talent that some of the other rooms got.
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So I I was I was just thrilled to have a weapon that will give defensive coordinators nightmares.
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And you know, we gotta do the best by bone nicks, we gotta, we gotta exhaust every resource possible.
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Jalen Waddell is way better than anybody we could draft at pick 30, especially at the you know, for this year.
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So I man, I I was thrilled.
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And props to George Payton for pulling the trigger on another deal.
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We've been waiting a while, you know.
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Obviously, Rust didn't work out, but that's okay.
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I don't think that was completely his fault.
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Uh I like this trade.
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I like this trade a lot, and I don't think we gave up too much, especially with getting that fourth round pick back.
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I think it was nice for the you know, Cage Casey.
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Is that who we got uh with with that pick?
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Yep.
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Yeah, he could be a starting offensive lineman for us in a year or so.
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So uh we'll we'll see.
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But Kelly, what'd you think?
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I like, I mean, I I really feel bad about our wide receiver room because I like the guys.
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Yeah, they just don't always deliver and they don't always step up, you know.
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Like I want Sorton to set Sutton to be more than a flash in a pan, you know.
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Like, I don't know how many times on broadcast you heard it took till the fourth quarter, but now he's here.
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So something is happening.
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If it if it's because it's the only name we have, so he's getting, you know, double teamed all the time, you know.
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Um we needed a weapon for Bo.
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I mean, we we we gotta go all in on Bo.
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We've we've stood beside him, we've heard how he's trash, how he's the worst um quarterback in his draft, you know, he's been compared across the draft class, but he's done really, really well and he's exceeded expectations.
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And if Sean Payton's all in and we're all in, we yeah, we we have to give him the tools.
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We've seen too many.
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Uh quarterback, we we've seen too many times.
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There's too many interesting, you know, instances in NFL history.
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A quarterback cannot do it alone.
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The quarterback, I mean, very seldom does the quarterback throw and catch the ball.
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You know, the quarterback can, you know, other than the the flute passes, you know, here and there, the quarterback cannot throw to himself.
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He cannot drop back and get downfield and and and catch the ball.
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So, and and we really need that because we've seen Bo can throw, Bo can go downfield.
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We need, you know, we need more than the threats that we have.
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And again, it's so hard to say because it's hard to criticize the football without feeling like you're criticizing the guy.
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Yeah.
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And I like our guys, you know, the the and you know, I like that we didn't bring in a whole bunch of people because I do feel like the culture of the Denver Broncos has finally kind of gotten back to where these guys want to play for their coach, they want to play for each other, they show up for each other.
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And when you when you get certain people in locker rooms, that goes away and and and the fall off is steep.
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That's a wonderful point.
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Yeah, so um, you know, as long as he blends in with our culture, it's a great pick.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I think he does, you know, he's like Pat Sertan's best friend.
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He knows Pat Sertan's one of those corners that doesn't have an ego either.
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So the the fact that you're bringing that up, I think it's yeah, we don't really have the the divas, the prima donna.
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You know, and divas never done the closest thing to diva we had in Denver was Brandon Marshall, and you know, he didn't last.
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No, you know, Denver doesn't that you know, Denver as a city kind of doesn't put up with it, it's not okay.
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I mean, um Shannon Sharp calls himself a princess tight end, you know.
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Um, but that's just because he's like, I'm not gonna block.
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Yeah, we were like, okay, cool, you do you do enough of the other stuff, no problem.
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Forgot we had Jerry Judy too.
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Jerry Judy kind of had that little reputation.
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And he didn't last, did he?
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Yeah, he didn't last, did he?
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And he wanted to talk shit during the Clealing game, and what the fuck happened, Judy?
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So, you know, it it doesn't, it's not Denver's not a culture with KC where we can take the big egos, where we let it ride, you know, it it just it doesn't work in Denver, it doesn't work in Denver football.
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No.
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Um, so you know, I I hope it brings great things, and as much as I love Court Cortland Senton, yeah, we we need we need people catching Bo's passes before the fourth quarter.
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Well said, absolutely.
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I will say to add on to your um Bo can't throw and catch, there's one quarterback that I can think of that has actually done that, and that was Marcus Mariota in that playoff game against the uh there's been a couple Tom Brady a couple times has had a pass batted to him.
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I think Jalen Hurts did it in like a playoff game, like uh Kyle Murley's done it a couple times because his passes are so easy to bat.
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Um I'm not ever gonna forgive the dude.
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I'm sorry.
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Um just a reminder my personal beef with Kyle Murray is alive and well.
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Um, so it you know, it it's happened, you know, a handful of times.
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Or I I think Rogers has gotten one or Farr got one.
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I think a Packer quarterback got one.
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Like it's not, you know, and I know there's always the trick play where we, you know, they run the the quarterback down and the quarterback catches it, you know.
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Brady's done that a couple times and stuff like that, but they're not they're not the ones throwing the ball in that instance.
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So, you know, it's you know, you know, you quote, I quote uh any given Sunday all the time.
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It's the ultimate team sport.
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Yep, you have to have all those men on the field and all those gears have to be clicking for for you to win.
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Yep.
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Well, since we're talking about quarterbacks catching the ball, one moment that comes to my mind is this being in the Philadelphia area.
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You want Philly Philly?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, we could do that.
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Yeah, oh, and um Bo caught Bo actually caught a pass too.
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So we had our own Philly special two years ago.
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Yeah, who was that against?
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I'm trying to remember.
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It was the Ravens.
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That's right, yeah, they destroyed us like they normally do.
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Yeah, that was, I think, the only touchdown we had that entire game.
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Yeah, man.
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The Bo hype the Bo hype was real, and then the Ravens kind of put a stop to it for a little bit.
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Yeah, that was a tough game.
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Yeah.
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Um, so we have here oh, um, one little tidbit that I found out today.
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Uh Jalen Waddle was the sixth overall pick in the 2020 2021 NFL draft.
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And guess who was drafted three picks after him?
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Pat Sertan, that's right.
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Pat Sertan.
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I forgot they were the same draft.
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Yeah.
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How about that?
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How about that?
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So Waddle, so a little some stats.
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Sorry, let me try that again.
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Some stats on Waddle.
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Um last season had 64 catches for 910 yards and six touchdowns.
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Respectable.
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I can that's definitely something that we need.
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Um, since he's entered the league, and this is gonna be among all AFC wide receivers, fourth in receiving yards, sixth in receptions, seventh in receiving touchdowns, and he's had the fifth most 100-yard games.
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Wow.
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So sounds like a top 10 receiver in the AFC, which is probably something we need to help ease the pressures that are Cortland Sutton.
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And one other thing that I want to talk about, um, Kelly kind of pointed out like the wide receivers are so inconsistent.
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The inconsistency part of it, it's the catches, they cannot catch the ball.
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There are some times where like they're wide open and they drop a pass, and we're all in Broncos Country collectively go sighing, like, oh my gosh.
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Yeah, because I'm really and you know, because I'm tired of the Twitter debate.
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That that was bow's throw.
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No, that was the receiver can't catch.
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You you gotta catch the ball.
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I mean, you have to catch the ball.
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I mean, I always go back to Emmanuel Sanders.
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I that man did not care if he had to cartwheel, if he had to somersault, if he had to backflip, wherever Peyton put that ball, Emmanuel Sanders could come down with that ball.
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Like the the the this concept that the NFL football, the ball's gonna come straight to your little triangled hands is stupid.
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No, it's not called football.
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That's not how it worked.
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Yeah, so I mean, yes, both behind.
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I mean, Bo's not perfect, you know, but uh so many of those catches, so many of those drops I felt should have been passes or catches.
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Well, I just remember now, too.
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One big offseason change is that they fired the wide receivers coach, uh Carrie Colbert, and they brought in uh Ronald Curry.
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And so that's very my whole thing with the coach is like we saw everybody dropping passes all the time.
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I think we were what second in the NFL and drop passes.
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Uh so when it's that sort of an issue with everybody, maybe go and get new wide receiver coach, and hopefully everybody can improve a little bit, right?
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Like, so absolutely, it's gotta be something with the coaching if everybody's struggling with it.
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Oh, yeah.
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Catch the baby, yeah.
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All right, so um, yeah, catch the baby for sure.
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And I totally forgot about that.
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So I'm hoping.
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Oh, you know what else I forgot?
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We speaking of offense, we have a new um offensive coordinator slash play caller now.
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That's probably the biggest change of the offseason.
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Oh, that was big news because Sean Payton swore up and down he was not giving up play calling.
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Now we got Davis Webb calling the plays in 2026.
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That's interesting.
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That was interesting because he swore, I'm gonna be the play caller, I'm gonna be the play caller.
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Um, and then suddenly, no, that's okay.
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Maybe we couldn't keep Webb unless Peyton gave it up.
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Yeah, because he he was interviewing for quite a few jobs from what I remember.
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So maybe he came back and said, nah, you gotta let me run it.
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And so help me guide Davis Webb.
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If you run a screen pass on third and eight, or we'll find you.
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I'm excited for that though.
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I mean, and light your shoes on fire.
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Yeah, I had like a kind of a love hate with the Sean Payton.
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It's like at the end of the day, like we still I think we're like a fringe top 10 offense with like points, but it's like how we would get those that sometimes it just didn't seem sustainable.
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Like well, yeah, as an older Bronco fan, it just reminded me so much of the later Dan Reeve years with John O.
00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:52.960
A with with the the run the rock, run the rock, which that's what football was, you know, in in in the 70s and the early 80s.
00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.839
Run the rock, run the rock, we run the rock, we run the rock.
00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:12.319
And when he couldn't now, if he'd use Shanahan zone blocking instead of kicking him to the Raiders, and then we had to hire him back to replace him, then maybe we could have run the rock a little bit more, but he wouldn't do the zone blocking either.
00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:20.240
So it's just, and then you know, it'd be the fourth quarter, and okay, we're down by two, you got four minutes, you know, whatever, LA, do whatever you're gonna do.
00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:21.440
And LA kept doing it.
00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:23.279
And you know, sometimes it wasn't sustainable.
00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:26.480
Sometimes LA couldn't complete the comeback.
00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:46.079
Um, he just did so many times, but you know, it got easier with LA when it could be a balanced game, and it you didn't have to, you know, suddenly with you know, two minutes and 12 football seconds left, be like, okay, we're gonna march the ball down.
00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:49.279
Defense is gonna get me the ball back, we're gonna march him down again.
00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:52.799
You know, I mean, I love Warren Moon's, you know, quote.
00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:58.480
If there's more, if if I've got two minutes and I'm not up by three scores, I haven't won the game against LA.
00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:07.359
LA's gonna come take that game, you know, and that that that that quote up there, you know, is up there with uh Steve Smith's quote about Champ Bailey.
00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:12.240
The earth is 70% covered by water, the rest is covered by Champ Bailey.
00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:20.880
So, you know, um, you can have great players, but you know, again, it's it's it just felt so much like that.
00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:23.599
We're gonna do it this way, we're gonna win this way, we're gonna win this way.
00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:25.039
Oh shit, we're not winning.
00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:26.880
Okay, Bo, go do whatever.
00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:35.599
Yeah, and it's not we're not in a position where we can do that to Bo and keep him.
00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:40.079
You know, you know, LA wasn't gonna jump shit.
00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:44.240
Bo gets too frustrated, it's too easy for Bo to jump shit.
00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:56.160
Absolutely, you know, but you know, LA played in an era where you just kind of stayed with your team and okay, this sucks, but this is you know, I threw my big fit.
00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:57.279
This is where I came.
00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.799
You know, Bo's gonna be like, oh shit, my contract's over.
00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:01.279
Bye.
00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:02.240
Yeah.
00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:05.839
Yeah, I'm hoping we get out to some more fast starts.
00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:14.720
Like, yeah, you know, uh in the 2015 with Manning, you know, of course, maybe you had to change the way you played a little bit.
00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:24.000
The man couldn't feel his hands, you know, half the time, but we don't necessarily need to have that approach with what what is Bo 25, 26 years old.
00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:26.319
No, let's go and take the lead early.
00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:33.680
Well, yeah, I mean that I really want I don't know what my cats are doing.
00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:42.240
I really want um Peyton to start more aggressive, and sometimes he would, and then the offense just didn't deliver.
00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:50.319
To be fair, there are times he came out and tried to strike, and it something got dropped, something got fumbled.
00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.680
Well Jordan Hungry, I feel like yes.
00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:59.599
Um, you know, the the the running back.
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.839
Just, you know, didn't stretch out the ball.
00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:04.079
You know, sometimes I think he tried.
00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:13.440
I just, you know, so yeah, I'm I'm very curious to see, you know, the what eight scripted plays that that Webb starts the season with.
00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:14.079
Yes.
00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:14.880
Yep.
00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:22.640
Um, one thing about this offense I'm hoping for, Davis Webb, is that we don't wait until the fourth quarter to score 33 points.
00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:26.720
I mean, we can still score 33 points in the fourth quarter.
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:31.359
But you know, if we score 33 points up to the fourth quarter, that's okay too.
00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:31.839
Yes.
00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.599
We will win if we do that.
00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:34.480
Yeah.
00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.200
Like I'm fine.
00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:41.200
We can still score in the please still score in the fourth quarter.
00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.519
Don't flip it where we go to a hot start and can't keep it.
00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:46.640
Right.
00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:47.839
That's your mind.
00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:55.920
You seeing that reminds me of a team that did that.
00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:02.640
They go up to a hot start, and then most of the time, I think it was um, so I remember the 2013 season for the Broncos.
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:04.319
Oh, the Ravens do it all the time.
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.480
Yeah, and the Ravens do it all the time too.
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.480
Where Denver would score all these points, but sometimes the defense wouldn't hold.
00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:22.640
So a four well, let's say a 40 to nothing score could be end up being like 40 to 24, and you're like, oh, like that was like it was actually not as close as it was.
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:27.279
Our defense just allowed 24 points in the last 10 minutes of the game.
00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:38.160
Well, I mean, because I had that argument a lot where you know, when we were losing the by those one-score teams, sometimes the defense just needs to hold those one-score games.
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:40.160
It's only nine o'clock where I am.
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.160
I'm sorry, I keep messing my way up.
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:50.960
Um, so yeah, I mean, the deep the the defense still needs to hold.
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:58.079
And um, defense bringing a lot of players back will hopefully help.
00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:01.279
But I know we did, I'm just making if we did do it.
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:11.359
No, actually, most of the draft was focused on offense for the most part because I mean the defense top the what type top five in the league in almost every category.
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.440
So hopefully that stands pat with um.
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:24.000
So actually, I'm gonna say this because I don't think I've given him enough credit, and I I have a feeling I know what Kelly will say here.
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:26.559
Um, Vance Joseph.
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.279
Um, we know him from his time.
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:30.880
I see the eye roll.
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:32.079
I saw the eye roll.
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:39.519
Um he he reminds me of gosh, he's a great coordinator.
00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:43.759
He's a bad head coach, yeah, but a bad head coach.
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:52.400
Yeah, and so I think just you know, as much as I love Wade Phillips, I would walk over glass for Wade Phillips.
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:53.680
I feel the same way.
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:58.799
He's an awesome defensive coordinator, he's just not a good head coach.
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:06.000
Okay, I didn't want to compare Vance Joseph and Wade Phillips because I wasn't sure if I would trigger anything on your end.
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:14.240
No, I like I mean, it's just um I'm I'm I'm gonna write him hard though, because we all want to, you know, oh, we have to give Vance Joseph his flowers.
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.480
He needs to repeat the success.
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:22.160
He's got the same personnel, so I don't want to hear, oh, he's working with new players.
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:30.880
He has to repeat the success because the number one rule of football defense wins championships.
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:31.519
Yep.
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:51.279
However, however, I got I gotta agree with people who say defenses don't usually repeat championships when the Legion of Boom fizzled out, our no-fly fizzled out.
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:56.319
The the steel curtain lasted quite a long time, but football was a different game then.
00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:01.599
So um, who is the other defense recently that had a nickname?
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:08.960
Um Kansas City probably should have had a nickname, but they didn't.
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:18.160
I mean, Kansas City's defense was probably, in my opinion, the the better group between the offense and the defense and their kind of Super Bowl runs.
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.240
Well, they're not ever gonna get any credit when you got turned in on the other side of the ball.
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:22.960
I know.
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:30.640
And Taylor Swift's fiance and uh, you know, all the white beaters they keep hiring.
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:37.599
Um so uh you know, they don't go back to back to back to back.
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:38.240
Right.
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:43.839
You get a couple really raw say Ray Lewis, that defense.
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:48.400
How many defenses did that how many championships did that defense win?
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:57.599
Um yeah, one is one is early years, and I think so yeah, because they were just retired after the yeah.
00:26:58.720 --> 00:26:59.680
After 2014.
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:04.880
I'm not getting off An Joseph's neck until he repeats this success.
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:06.640
Fair enough.
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:17.359
Because you can have a great one-year championship winning defense, it doesn't, you know, get immoralized until you repeat it.
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:20.640
Absolutely.
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:34.960
One thing I kind of want to point out before we move on to the draft is looking at um, and I know this is gonna be a complete 180 from what we're talking about because we're talking defense, so that dreaded Miami game.
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:40.799
I think what needs to be studied is we can bury different huh?
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.039
Why can't we JR Smith that?
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:46.720
I thought we JR Smith this for something we JR Smith.
00:27:49.920 --> 00:28:09.519
Well, here's the thing with it too, though, is that the reason it comes out is because there was like a conversation, I think, between Schefter and uh Sean Payton, and it's something that needs to be studied that the both the Dolphins and the Broncos went in completely different directions that we didn't expect since that game.
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.079
That has a lot to do with coaching.
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:14.799
Yes.
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:24.240
Now look, I get again, Mike McDaniels is personable, and when he comes and he talks to the press, he seems like a likable guy.
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:26.480
Sean Payton does not.
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:32.640
Sean Payton seems like you know, my type of NFL coach where but I gotta talk to these reporters.
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.480
Y'all don't know, y'all don't know ball.
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.960
You've watched enough football, you've heard some announcers say some shit, so you think you have intelligent questions, I got a fucking job to do.
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:42.480
Leave me alone.
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:43.440
Right?
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.480
And that that I that's who I like my head coach to be.
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:57.599
McDaniels seems like, oh, these are my friends, this is my buddy, I got jokes with them, you know, let me pop bottles with them, you know, especially being in Miami.
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:04.400
But Mike McDaniels coaching reminds me a lot of Josh McDaniel's coaching.
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:05.839
Interesting.
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:17.039
Where when it's good, they're funny, they're nice, and when it's bad, you kind of get this pouty, stolen person who just doesn't know what to do.
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:23.359
And who yells and who yells at your players for three and then starts to spiral.
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:32.319
And so, you know, we've all seen Josh McDaniels tuck tail and go back where you know he's always gonna have a home, right?
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:39.119
And McDaniel and and then the and Mike McDaniels is really freaking struggling with what to do, right?
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:40.400
Because he doesn't know what to do.
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:47.839
He he went all in on Tua and and he should have held some back.
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.400
He should have kept something close to his best, and he didn't, and now he's just kind of stuck.
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:59.680
And you know, it's good it's in Miami because Miami's not football.
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:20.799
Yeah, right, you know, it's not Boston, it's not uh Denver, it's not New York, it's not, you know, there's so much other shit to do in in Miami that's not you know, that's a lot you know, they ain't got shit else to do when they're stuck in the snow in the dark, they watch football, so um, which is great, those are my type of people.
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.599
Um don't get me wrong.
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:25.519
I appre football.
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.240
So um he's kind of stuck.
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:42.559
And so that's what you know, when he when it's good, when his team can put up 70, he knows what to do, he knows what to say because it's fun and it's games and it's high fives.
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:50.799
Struggling, and you know, quarterbacks with concussions, he's kind of spiraled out and he doesn't know how to write the shit.
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:58.160
Peyton took that and said, Okay, I know what the fuck I need to do.
00:30:58.240 --> 00:30:58.960
Watch this.
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:07.920
And it took a while because you got to get out of the storm and you got to get past the waves, and you know, you're still taking salt water saltwater to the face.
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:10.319
Well, you cut the bad apples right after that.
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:16.480
I mean, uh remember Randy Gregory and Frank Clark, and you just got those guys out of there, yeah.
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:18.319
Right after that, right?
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.240
Daniels hasn't done anything to write his shit, really.
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:31.039
And now we're not seeing happy go lucky Mike McDaniels, who people want to dress up for for Halloween.
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.440
We're seeing the guy that's like, what?
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.039
Yeah, you gotta score more points to win.
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:38.400
Well, no shit, Charlotte.
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.480
How how are you gonna do that?
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:42.400
Like, you know.
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:46.559
So I mean that that that really comes down to coaching.
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:55.680
That really comes down to uh, you know, you gotta go back into the face of the storm and and fix it.
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:02.240
And and I think McDaniel just kind of said, Oh, well, you know, there's an island over there we can shipwreck.
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:02.960
Yeah.
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.319
Well, now we'll get to see what he does with uh Justin Herbert in LA.
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:12.960
We'll see.
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.960
It's kind of ironic because you pass on Justin Herbert, right?
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:17.519
For Tua.
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.200
Um yeah, I think he yeah, I think he did.
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.839
Um yeah, I think he did.
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.240
Because I think Tua went first and then Herbert.
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:33.680
And then everyone's like Dolphins made an amazing decision.
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:35.519
No.
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:42.400
Well, I mean, and I as fans, we have convinced ourselves of many different things.
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:43.119
Right?
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:52.240
We have you know uh um some people were very convinced Brock was the person, Brock was the guy.
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:59.039
He he would have been maybe if he didn't go to Houston.
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:00.559
The vibes were good.
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:06.240
I nah, you know, but you know, in the end, no.
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:07.759
No, he was bad.
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.240
Um his second stint was horrible.
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.240
Yeah, to uh, you know, it it kind of the same thing.
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.680
Every, you know, everyone convinced themselves he could do it.
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:22.880
Yeah, you know, we we convinced ourselves for a while.
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:30.799
Um Mike McDaniels is fine, that's good, that's great, it's fine, it's fine, and it wasn't, you know.
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:36.720
Um we we were coming I convinced myself Russ Wilson would would turn the ship.
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.279
That's it, that's the call, that's the play.
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.359
It wasn't it, you know, you convince yourself of a lot of things.
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:48.079
Man, I thought we were gonna win multiple Super Bowls with Russell Wilson when he first got traded here.
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:54.079
Yeah, so like I said, it's not, you know, this is this is one of the reasons I don't talk a lot about the draft.
00:33:54.160 --> 00:34:03.359
I don't I don't do mock drafts, I don't do uh a whole bunch of predictions because football on paper is very easy.
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.359
Yep, absolutely, yeah.
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:08.800
Everyone does a bracket.
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.519
Oh, I know what to pick on my bracket, and what always happens.
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:14.719
Mm-hmm.
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:16.639
There's no brackets, yeah.
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.039
You know, they have to play the game.
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.159
So, you know, Sean Payton is all in.
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.679
These are, you know, I said last season, this is my Super Bowl winning team.
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:26.880
I can do it with this team.
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.320
He's kind of pretty he's stuck by him, he's still all in on him.
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:36.480
He made some moves, he made some adjustments, but nothing, he didn't overhaul the whole thing.
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:43.599
He still thinks he has he has the answer, you know, and so that's what you see.
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:49.840
So, you know what what were we gonna improve other than a receiver?
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.719
I mean, I maybe would have gone for a running back too, but yeah.
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:57.119
How do y'all feel about linebacker?
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.599
That's a kind of a polarizing question with the fan base.
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:15.199
Yeah, it is very I'm just really surprised that I mean looking at the draft, we only drafted one inside linebacker, yeah.
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:28.320
And so, and then we just got rid of, or we didn't get rid of, we released Drake Greenlaw, and so now we're gonna be rolling with Alex Singleton and Justin Sernade.
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:34.000
Um Alex Singleton, great when it comes to tackling and playing the run game.
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:39.039
Sometimes, sometimes passing game, not so great.
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:46.800
And with Sernod, I haven't seen enough of him to really get an opinion per se.
00:35:47.440 --> 00:36:01.119
But I'm kind of hoping that maybe somewhere down the line, maybe training camp wise, we look at that position and we're like, okay, maybe we need a little bit more help there, or who knows, maybe our Mr.
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.119
Irrelevant will surprise us.
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:04.800
That'd be amazing.
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:06.320
That'd be amazing.
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:15.199
Um, yeah, our defense is a strong unit, so yeah, I wouldn't overhaul it per se.
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.840
I can see why they didn't go the overall route.
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:26.639
Um, but yeah, our weaknesses are our weaknesses, and this is why I say I'm I'm not taking my foot off of Vance's neck.
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:27.519
Is it no?
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:29.360
You've got to show me now.
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:40.480
You have the success, you have this, you have to repeat it with this personnel because you didn't go fight and go, This is what I need, this is what I need, this is what my system needs, this is what I need.
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:43.760
So you did the same thing Peyton did.
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:50.079
You you're standing by your your your all in on this personnel, and this is what I can do, and I can repeat it.
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.559
I need to see it repeated before I go.
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:56.960
I yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:36:57.920 --> 00:36:59.920
Because you know, really it's up and down.
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.400
You know, that that's Joseph's defense sometimes that couldn't stand up and make the stop we needed.
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.599
Oh, kind of tails off towards the end of the season.
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.840
That's the one thing that Vance has no excuses.
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:17.119
Like you said, after bringing everybody back this year, you can't tail off towards the end of the year.
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:23.920
Uh, I know Buffalo had like the number one offense in the NFL, but a defense should slow them down.
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.559
And thank God we had those turnovers, right?
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:35.679
But we we won a game where we didn't force a punt the entire the entire game, and that that needs to change.
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.639
Uh so and we need way more turnovers.
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.400
Yes, yes, and yeah, Riley's got to catch the biggest.
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:52.000
Yeah, you you you gotta get the ball back into Bo's hands and and keep those offenses in the in the AFC the buck off the field.
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.000
They can't score if they're not on the field.
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:57.840
Absolutely.
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:06.159
Um, speaking of the draft, since David brought it up, um it's time that we can um let's move right along to our draft.
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.400
Um, a little bit of history was made for the Broncos for this draft.
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:18.480
Um, for the first time since 1995, the Broncos did not have a pick in the first or the second round.
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:24.960
Um when they went in 1995, they actually went up until the fourth round before they made a pick.
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:33.519
But that year they did draft a pretty solid running back who is in the hall of fame, so I guess it kind of worked out a little bit.
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:36.239
How about that?
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:41.199
So are you saying Jonah Coleman is our next Hall of Fame running back?
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:42.559
Wouldn't that be nice?
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:43.760
That would be very nice.
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:44.239
I know.
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:45.760
Is he out of Georgia?
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:50.639
Um, he's out of Washington, if that helps.
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.400
Uh that's not Georgia.
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:57.760
Uh pretty bad at geography, but uh I know, I'm really bad.
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:15.199
Um, but for our first pick, which didn't happen until the third round, we actually would have had a second round, but I think we I actually remember I had like an Ed Oliver kind of like moment there because there was a guy, I can't remember his name, and but we were coming up and we were gonna draft.
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.559
I think that probably wouldn't have the way we could have gone.
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:22.960
But I think it was Buffalo that ended up drafting not Buffalo, I'm sorry.
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:29.119
There was a team that drafted him before we could get to him, so we traded back with Buffalo, I think is what I'm thinking about.
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.320
Oh who did you think that was?
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.400
Or like they were going after.
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:45.840
I'm trying, I'm actually look, I'm trying to remember, but while I'm looking that up, um David, can you tell us a little bit about our first pick, Tyler Onyedum?
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.559
O Yedum, defensive tackle from Tech St.
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:48.800
M.
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.159
Because when I heard that name, I was like, okay, we got a defensive tackle.
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.119
That helps because we did lose John Franklin Myers.
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:55.440
Yeah.
00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:04.239
Um, and I mean we saw Malcolm Roach, but defensive tackle was probably not the first thing I was thinking of when we would make our first pick.
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:20.239
Yeah, I was hoping we would go like tight end or you know, something on offense type of thing, but I you know, I'll never fault teams for drafting offensive and defensive linemen with their first picks.
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:25.760
So uh that's how you build you know stability for the long term.
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.519
So he's a he's a real athletic defensive tackle.
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:31.440
Definitely can kind of play that.
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.519
Uh John Franklin Myers' role.
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.840
I don't know how much we'll see from him this year.
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.639
I mean, you know, we drafted Savion Jones last year.
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.239
I think I think a lot of people are kind of sleeping on Malcolm Roach.
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:49.360
If I had to like bet on it right now, I think he's gonna be uh the guy starting in place of JFM.
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:56.480
And I thought Roach took a really nice step last season and shows some more pass rush chops than what he had done previously.
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.960
Uh, but yeah, oh Yedem's a fun, he he's a fun defensive tackle.
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:13.119
Again, it's not never gonna be sexy when you draft like a defensive tackle from Texas AM with your first pick in like the third round, but and like you know, Cage Casey, an offensive lineman.
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:22.639
Uh, you know, it's it's never like star-studded, but I think like those two specific picks are ones that I can really get behind.
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:28.480
Guys, we hadn't drafted an offensive tackle, and I don't know if Casey will play tackle or guard.
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:33.840
We haven't drafted an offensive tackle since Garrett Bowles, and that's bad process.
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.599
We've gotten away with it, we've gotten lucky.
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.880
Um, so I I was real happy that we we spent some capital up front.
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.320
Um, but I don't know how much they'll play this year, to be honest.
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:47.199
What do you guys think?
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:57.679
Um well I'll tell before I for before I forget, um, it was Josiah Trotter I was thinking of that we were gonna draft the linebacker.
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.280
Tampa Bay took him like 10 picks before we could pick them.
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:26.159
So um so Kate, I don't think Cage Casey, I think Cage Casey is gonna be more of a player that's gonna probably take over in like his at the earliest, maybe the second year, because I know next year uh I want to say it's Ben Powers and Ben Powers' contract, I think is gonna be up real soon.
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:28.960
And um, there's also Mike McGlinchie, too.
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:35.840
I mean, I know he was drafted as a tackle, but there was a lot of like speculation that he could play like on the inside at guard.
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:40.880
So when they said that, I'm like, I know exactly where they're thinking of looking, right at that left guard spot.
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.559
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:48.000
I find it interesting they announced him as a guard, so that would be my hunch too.
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:55.119
Uh but yeah, maybe Paucho will be that right tackle after McGlinchy, but yeah, that's down the future quite a bit.
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:56.800
Oh, absolutely.
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:58.880
Um, one one player.
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.039
Well, I have two players I was actually excited about.
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:12.159
Um, after Cage Casey, although we had to wait another 59 picks before we got him, we traded up to get Justin Jolly, which I'm like, ooh, that's gonna be a fun name to say.
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.159
Um Christmas.
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:15.519
Yep, Christmas.
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:24.239
And we have we drafted a tight end, which I was like, at this point, I'm like, with all the tight ends that were like being drafted, I'm like, are we ever gonna draft this guy?
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.960
Are we ever gonna draft a tight end to help out Bo Nicks?
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.400
Um, but Justin Jolly, like, I'm actually kind of excited for him.
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.199
Yeah, and he doesn't drop the ball either.
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:50.800
Like, he had a very low drop percentage in college, and I like Evan Ingram, but that was like the thing I think that kind of kept him from being involved more in the offense was he had like one of the most drops for like all tight ends last year.
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.039
So I like Jolie uh a lot.
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:58.719
I was surprised he fell all the way to the fifth round, but I I love the fact that we went up and got him.
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.239
Um This was a good tight end class, I think.
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:08.079
And it pained me that we didn't really draft a tight end last year except Caleb Lohner.
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:10.239
And maybe he'll be something this year.
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.400
You know, we'll we'll have to see.
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:23.840
Uh, but yeah, I think Jolie, I think he's somebody that will be involved in this offense in some capacity this year, and uh he can be a security blanket for Bo.
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:32.639
I I like his game a lot, plus again the nickname Big Christmas in Denver, I think that's just perfect.
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:49.119
Well, he's gonna have to fight with um uh I can't I think he's a Cleveland Guardian uh baseball player, but I know he um his last name's Noel, but I know he was dubbed Big Christmas in like a playoff game, so Jolly might have to compete with that one.
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:50.880
Oh, yeah, we'll have to see.
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.559
Well, yeah, he's gotta catch some touchdowns then to prove it.
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.079
Yep, absolutely.
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:02.960
Could you imagine Justin Jolly on the team catching a pass against the Buffalo Bills on Christmas?
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:06.719
See, oh my god, yes, we play on Christmas.
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.280
I'm excited for that game so much.
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:12.000
Um, and I like that it's on a Friday.
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:19.599
I feel like we don't normally we've seen now on Thursday nights, we just don't play good, especially with Sean Payton.
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.239
We suck on Thursdays, but we don't know yet if we suck on Fridays yet.
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.679
So we got two Friday games, a Black Friday and Christmas.
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.559
We'll figure out if that extra day makes a difference.
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.239
Absolutely.
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:36.000
Um, and then we got Miles Scott, which is a safety.
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.760
Um, I figure he's probably more special teams for the time being.
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.119
Yeah, and then Dallin Bentley, tight end from Utah.
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.599
So we double dipped on tight end in this draft.
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.800
So that was actually I'm I'm okay with that.
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:54.400
Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of like bringing back Adam Troutman, yeah.
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.719
So maybe Bentley can kind of push him.
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:04.159
I think Troutman's spot on the roster is pretty safe, even if these young tight ends look good.
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:12.880
But at least you got some guys that you can now develop behind him to where maybe you're not tied to him throughout the life of his contract.
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:23.599
Absolutely, and then I do remember hearing, I think it was for rookie minicamp that um, or maybe it wasn't rookie minicamp next yeah, um, that um Caleb Blonner has been showing some promise.
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:26.559
Dude, maybe he can be our next Julius Thomas, right?
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:30.159
It took him a little bit to get going, you know, being a basketball player.
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:40.400
So if he can just be even half of what Julius Thomas was for us, um, you know, back with Manning, I I think we got a good tight end.
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.119
But that that's probably my big hot take.
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:49.119
I always have like some random player that's kind of more seen as like a scrub that I'm just like all in on.
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:54.000
Like I really wanted to see AT Perry play last year, never active at all.
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:54.639
Yep.
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.639
Um, but I was like, he's six five, you can get downfield.
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:04.159
I think Caleb Werner is gonna be my AT Perry this year, where I just want to see what he can do.
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:05.280
He's six seven.
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.280
Six seven, yep.
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:16.239
I uh uh being a Kel so Kelly and I are teachers, and I automatically, when you said six seven, thought about oh no, you guys are triggered by that.
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:18.960
I didn't mean to trauma traumatize though.
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.400
I was like, oh gosh, here we go again.
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.960
I can we we can't escape it, apparently.
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:26.000
We can never escape it.
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:27.119
Oh, I did.
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:29.679
You you shut that down.
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:36.719
If Miss Kern hears you say six seven, you're gonna miss six seven minutes of recess.
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:39.519
That's actually pretty cool.
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:54.559
Now they're scared to count because they go one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, yes, keep going eight, nine, ten.
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:58.079
Oh boy.
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.480
Um, and then right back.
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:09.199
They take a big break between that six, one, two, three, seven, eight, nine.
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.480
Um, with our last pick, um, Mr.
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.519
Irrelevant, we got Red Murdoch.
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.840
Um, which, if you were on the Twitter machine, Mario was very high on him.
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:22.480
Yeah.
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.079
Um Red Murdoch's a beast, man.
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:28.880
Uh you guys probably know the stat by now.
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.719
Most force uh fumbles in NCAA history.
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:33.840
I know.
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:35.039
He's got that.
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:41.360
It's way harder than like a peanut Tillman punch because he's a linebacker, but I'm pumped to see what he can do.
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:45.039
And with all these teams, you know, you hear about it a lot now.
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:52.880
Um, San Francisco, Seattle, LA, they're doing a lot of these sets where they have three tight ends in the game.
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.199
And uh, you're gonna need some guys who can really thump, you know.
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:04.159
You need some bigger linebackers again, and uh yeah, I think uh you know, Red Murdoch, he's kind of a throwback to that.
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:10.800
And I'm excited to see what he can do, especially on those short, you know, third and shorts and goal lines.
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:16.400
And I I hope I hope he makes the team, and I hope we get to see him a little bit.
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:17.679
Absolutely.
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:27.039
Uh, a little fun stat that I found um interesting enough for the world of TikTok, and I want to say either I shared it with Kelly or Kelly shared it with me.
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:36.960
So Red Murdoch, his real name is Khalil, and as you mentioned, um, he had the most forced fumbles in um NCL white history.
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:42.079
The record that he broke um was so he had 17 force fumbles.
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:47.280
The record he broke was 16, and you know who had that um stat?
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:50.239
Khalil Mack.
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:52.239
Yeah, there you go.
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.679
And and guess where Khalil Mack played football?
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:57.199
Buffalo.
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:59.760
Buffalo from the same spot.
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:01.199
They coach it there.
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:02.079
Yep.
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:09.840
So I'm I'm really I think that's probably the one pick I'm really excited to see is Red Murdoch.
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.320
I was gonna go crazy if we didn't draft a linebacker.
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:16.000
Like oh yeah, I I wanted us to sign another line.
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.920
I was you know, I was bummed the whole Dre Greenlaw thing didn't work out, you know.
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:29.199
Yeah, maybe just maybe it's true he just wasn't good fit, but um yeah, we we sort of like offensive line.
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:35.599
It's like, man, it would be nice to draft some you know, guys that are not you know in the seventh round, but I'll take this.
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.559
I'll take this seventh round linebacker, Red Murdoch.
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:43.519
That's how bad I want us to to develop some guys behind singleton and strength.
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.280
So man, we'll see what happens.
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:50.719
You know, the Buffalo captain, um Matt Milano, he's still a free agent.
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:54.559
So I know Todd, you were talking about maybe we bring in another veteran at some point.
00:50:54.719 --> 00:51:11.519
He's a guy that I would love the Broncos to bring in because if we got an injury there in a Super Bowl year, I don't know how wise it is to be dependent on maybe a rookie like Red Murdoch or you know, Jordan Turner, some of those other guys we got, like they're fine, but they're not like a Matt Milano.
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:17.679
We'll have to see exactly, and I wouldn't mind how depth matters.
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:25.679
I mean, so that's interesting because the podcast episode we've talked about patience, and now we're talking about depth.
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:28.480
So perfect, we got it covered.
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:29.360
Yep.
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:40.079
Um, so usually they so I was looking at some of the grades they gave our drafts, um, which are some were a little surprising.
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:42.079
So let's go around the horn.
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.280
And what grade would you give this Broncos draft class?
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:55.760
Ooh, I forget what I gave it, but I'll I'll give it a B because we uh we addressed some of our needs.
00:51:56.239 --> 00:52:01.440
We went with offensive and defensive line, which is important for the future.
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:07.679
And Jonah Coleman was a guy that I really wanted the Broncos to get my whole like the whole draft process.
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.079
I just wanted him to be a Broncos so bad.
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:14.880
So Jonah Coleman, I think he's perfect for this backfield.
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.679
Um, you know, draft grades.
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.239
They some people say they're silly to see before they play, whatever.
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.679
I still love giving grades, I still think it's fine.
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:27.360
I'll give them a B.
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:34.079
And um if they end up being even better than that, I'll figure out a way to say I gave them an A.
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.480
Well, as teachers, we have to give grades all the time.
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.199
So see, you guys are used to it, yeah.
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.079
Yeah, but yeah, I would I I would agree with you.
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:45.599
I'd give this class a B.
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:53.599
Yeah, I mean, I don't get to give letter grades, I give a plus, a check, or a minus.
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:54.800
I'd give it a check.
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:56.880
Um okay, that's a good way.
00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:57.679
I like that.
00:52:57.760 --> 00:52:58.639
It's fine, you know.
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:00.960
You know, yeah, it's fine, it's getting there.
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:05.840
Um, you know, because you know, I I've said it 900 million times.
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:12.480
I have been wrong trying to look at college players and deciding if they will fit in the NFL.
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:19.840
Um G and I thought would be, you know, just bust out, change the game, never made a roster.
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:23.920
Ones I thought would suck, change the game.
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:27.679
So I can't evaluate talent apparently.
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:31.119
And I think the Broncos in in history have done, you know, a pretty good job.
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:33.679
Yeah, you know, they they fail sometimes, they win sometimes.
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:34.880
So I don't know what they're looking at.
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:43.199
I'm not gonna criticize people that go watch the the 900 college football games and and find these people that they have to find.
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:51.760
Um, you know, so yeah, I'm one, you know, until we see how it pans out, it you know, it's not really fair.
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.960
And then, you know, we talk, you know, I talk about it a lot.
00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:01.360
You can be a great player, but if you go to a bad situation, it's almost unfair.
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:03.360
Yes, right, right.
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:12.480
Like, um I don't know that the the quarterback for the Raiders will have a great career because he went to the Raiders.
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:18.719
Yeah, you know, now the Raiders aren't on the come up, they're not just missing a piece.
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.840
The Raiders are in a sorry state, and that's where he went.
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:23.280
And you know, I feel that way.
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:28.719
I like I feel like Tessa Birdie maybe would have been a much better quarterback if he hadn't gone to Tampa Bay.
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:35.360
Um Vince Young, you know, kind of got trapped where he was and couldn't succeed.
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:50.079
So it doesn't make them bad players, but you know, it just matters if you get into that locker room, if you've got veterans that mentor you, if you've got coaches that know how to coach you, if you can, if you fit in that scheme, you have great players that are just in the wrong scheme.
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:54.800
They can't do what the coach is asking them to do because that's not where they play.
00:54:55.039 --> 00:55:03.599
So, you know, that's just not how they play football, and they've got that muscle memory of you know, three years at college that no, this is where I go, this is what I do.
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:11.440
So, you know, um, you know, I'm all in on the draft day question, you know, but did he go to the birthday party?
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:14.000
Yeah, yep, yeah.
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:16.320
Did they all go to the birthday party?
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:17.519
That's just what I need to know.
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:23.360
That's that's that's like so you know, and you have people like Judy who couldn't adjust.
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.360
No, you know, and you know, I say this all the time, you know.
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:36.719
Really, if I did a doctorate, that's what I would do it on, is these players that come out of places like Bama and LSU and just don't lose for four years.
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:41.760
And then when they go somewhere and they're not winning, do they adjust?
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:45.360
And some people do, and some like Jerry Judy, do not.
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:50.000
They become the big spoil babies that you know being an athlete makes them.
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:55.679
So, you know, well, you know, we'll have to see.
00:55:55.760 --> 00:56:00.239
So, you know, you you just kind of gotta wait to see.
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:01.440
But I would give it a check.
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:16.079
I think you know, they check, they checked some boxes, they did some things, you know, and you know, other than I mean, I don't think we've made the news on draft day since freaking Lway.
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:31.840
Like Denver just always kind of flies under the radar and we do what we do, and and we still put you know, other than you know after Super Bowl 50, you know, we do we put pretty good teams on the field, even if they haven't been championship-winning teams.
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:35.119
We put solid teams on the field throughout history.
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:36.079
That's right.
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.039
Yep, couldn't agree more.
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:48.639
Um, all right, so I think that's although I would like clips of the rookie, you know, the rookies trying to play in in the thin air for the first week.
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:50.400
That would be great.
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:57.599
So that's oh, which we'll actually talk about because the first thing that comes to Denver will be Jacksonville.
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:01.519
So I'll have to see what their who their rookies are and go from there.
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:03.119
Yeah.
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:07.920
Which speaking of which, um I mean our rookies, I mean like from camp.
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:09.280
Oh, your uh our rookie.
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:16.320
The first time they take off down the field and they get like 20 yards in and are like, what's happening to my legs?
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:26.239
I mean ours, not I know what happens when teams come to mile high, they get really tired in that fourth quarter.
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:28.719
Yep, very true.
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:35.280
Um, so the schedule came out on Thursday, and uh it's very interesting.
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:40.320
So I know David, you were talking a bit about that week one matchup against Kansas City.
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:52.000
Yeah, I really think that they probably set this up because there must be something that because Mahomes is gonna be coming back from an ACL injury, yeah.
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:53.599
I think he tore something else too.
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:59.440
So we're not even sure if yeah, we're not even sure if he's gonna come be back for this game.
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:05.519
But I think the whoever put the schedule together has like all the faith that Mahomes is gonna be back week one.
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.719
So I think that's probably the biggest reason they did it.
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:13.280
But it might blow up in their face if Mahomes isn't ready by week one.
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:27.360
I can't believe like you know, Mahomes is their golden boy to put him up against the best pass rush in the NFL, week one, again, in the fact that okay, it's in Arrowhead, whatever.
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.719
Thank God we don't have to face him in December in Arrowhead.
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:32.800
We're getting this out of the way the first week.
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:43.360
Like again, like I know a lot of people think like don't really like the first part of the schedule, you know, six playoff teams in six weeks.
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.360
Yeah, it's a gauntlet, whatever.
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:57.039
But I don't know, like when you bring back everybody, you should be able to hit the ground running a little bit faster than maybe what we've done in the past.
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:03.039
And um I'd rather face those teams, hopefully, healthier.
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.320
And you should be healthier at the beginning of the season.
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:07.599
So we'll see what happens.
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:11.119
But man, I I love that we get Kansas City on Monday night.
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:21.360
Just like with the Broncos beating the Bills in the playoffs, man, the the rest of the NFL won't be able to handle when we beat the Chiefs.
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:22.480
That's how I feel about it.
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:23.840
They're not gonna know what to do.
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:24.559
Well, it depends.
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:27.679
If Mahomes isn't back, then it gets to be their excuse.
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:29.599
Oh, yeah, you're right.
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:31.360
I'm hoping he plays.
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:32.639
This is twofold.
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:38.960
This is gonna be Mahomes' homecoming, and oh, those Broncos that think they're all shit are gonna lose.
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:45.039
Or if Mahomes doesn't come back, then well, you know, it's a Mahomeless Kansas City.
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:46.239
Why are you so happy?
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:51.119
Or if Mahomes is back but doesn't play well, well, it was his first game after injury.
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:53.679
See, they've set him up so they win either way.
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:58.800
Yeah, it's pretty much win-win and the golden boy has a win-win-win situation.
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:08.559
He's not back, he's back and wins, or he backs and loses, and they've got the built-in, you know, excuse that oh, they gave him a division rival on Monday night right away.
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:14.000
So the good news is Denver is good enough for getting primetime games early in the season.
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:15.360
Yeah, yeah.
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.079
So let's focus on that.
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:30.000
And one, I really think this first this first set sets, you know, it'll set the tone because either then the rest of the season we're chasing KC or KC's chasing us.
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:31.119
Exactly.
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:31.760
That's it.
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:36.800
This game that the the Monday night game decides the season how the season is gonna shake out.
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:38.480
Absolutely.
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.960
Who you know, who's gonna win the West.
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.239
And I I just really don't believe the Chargers are gonna come out of nowhere.
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:46.000
Chargers are gonna charge.
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:47.119
We know how it is.
01:00:47.760 --> 01:01:14.719
So um that's just you know, um, but you know, yeah, you know, it's the I don't know, 30th year in a row that I'm gonna say that, you know, Pat Bowland slept with somebody's wife and they still just fucking hate the Broncos and they make the schedule because oh ah it's a ridiculous start to the season.
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:20.559
Um, but the eight games following that look kind of suspiciously easy.
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:24.960
See, that's even if we did a slow start to the season, god, we could finish strong.
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:27.920
But I don't know because I don't know how morale goes.
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:37.920
So, you know, this goes back to can we go three and three in the first six and then just come out and beat everybody into the ground, or will we go three and three and be in our heads?
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:44.559
So, you know, it it or we could come out be six and oh and be like we're calling.
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:48.559
But you're right.
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:53.280
Uh all you need to do is go three and three, and I think you're in a really good spot the rest of the way.
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.880
And yes, you know, the NFL changes all the time.
01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:01.679
Like, not I doubt all six of those teams are gonna make the playoffs this year.
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:12.480
So yeah, it's and some of them, like, you know, it's it's a you know, the Ram game, you know, if we lose that one, let me pull it up.
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:16.320
Um it will have little effect on our playoffs.
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:17.360
That's right.
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:30.400
Yes, you know, we have the city one that you know will will do it the most, and then um you know, the Jaguar ones, iffy, yeah, you know what I mean?
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:31.760
Maybe, maybe not.
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:37.840
It depends if you know Trevor Lawrence finally kind of had the football year we were waiting for him to have last year.
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:38.800
Yeah, yep.
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.880
But again, does he repeat if it takes you that long to get there?
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:44.159
Can you repeat it?
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:45.599
Yeah, right.
01:02:46.320 --> 01:03:00.239
You know, and then um the Rams are kind of scary, the Niners are kind of iffy because when they're good, they're good, but God, they they kind of start off slow too.
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:01.280
They're made out of glass.
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:03.199
You breathe on them wrong, they're broken.
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:14.480
Um, you know, and then we face them too, and uh because he tore his Achilles who will be out in the playoffs, George Kittle.
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:16.800
So he'll miss the first part of the season.
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:18.719
Oh, yeah, that's true.
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:25.519
So, you know, and you know, then we got another division rival, and then you know, we got the we got the defending Super Bowl champs.
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:30.320
So, you know, and I'm not scared of Arizona, I'm sorry.
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:32.480
I don't think anyone is.
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:35.679
Are Seattle and the Rams, are those both home games?
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:40.400
Because I think a lot of the toughest opponents the Broncos get at home, which is so nice.
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:42.320
Yeah, yeah.
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:48.400
I mean, so you know, it's our but it's our year for only eight home games, not nine.
01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:50.719
Oh yeah.
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:59.039
Well, we got nine, I mean that's gonna trade off every year because now we have an odd number of games in the season.
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:00.719
That drives me crazy.
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:05.199
I know looking at the schedule.
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:14.000
I just want to say, looking at the schedule, I just noticed something that we have all five or all five of our NFC opponents before our buy.
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.159
I don't think I've ever seen that before.
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:25.039
Yeah, but see, and again, that leads to they do think Denver will be a threat because after the buy, it will play with the AFC seeding.
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:26.159
Yes, yep.
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:27.679
So that's what it is.
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.239
They want to try and knock us out early.
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:35.440
And if we make it to the buy and we're still in it, every game's gonna matter.
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:36.480
Yes, yep.
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:46.239
They they really put the pressure on, and this is you know, and of course, we were the first seed in the AFC, so I was expecting a hard schedule.
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:49.360
That's what you get when you win, you get the hard schedule.
01:04:49.599 --> 01:05:03.360
So what I need, um, so this is where Rebel, if Bo can survive this gauntlet and come out and have another great year, then yes, this is our guy, and people gotta stop talking shit because now we got to see Drake May do it.
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:12.400
We gotta see uh, you know, how Jackson Dart rebounds, you know, because he fell apart without Scataboo.
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:13.760
Yeah.
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:24.079
And so, you know, when Scatagou comes back, you know, will he be, you know, running into the walls he was running into, or you know, maybe will he be hesitant?
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:36.559
So, you know, this, you know, that the this is the year I think finally Bo's not a rookie, and you know, he can't have a sophomore slump.
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:43.679
And you know, does he come off this injury and does he just pick up where he left off, or does he really struggle against top teams?
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:52.880
Yeah, he needs to get into rhythm, and that's gotta be Davis Webb's number one priority is just getting him into a rhythm quicker in these games.
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:59.599
Cause yeah, the the highs and lows of this offense are they were just insane.
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:04.719
They're like being at the the top of the Rocky Mountains and the bottom of them.
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:07.360
You know, they're they're you know, they're they're here.
01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:14.559
And so, you know, if we can, if we can stay, you know, kind of here, you know, and he doesn't have to be the high high all the time.
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:25.280
He doesn't have to overcome 27 points, 33 points, 18 points, you know, and you know, can kind of you know, may yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you gotta come back.
01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:27.280
We got two scores down, you gotta come back from that.
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:32.079
I think that's that's okay for any NFL quarterback to say, but just not constantly.
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:36.719
If we can get, I would love to get out ahead and stay ahead in some of these games.
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:37.599
Absolutely.
01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:38.559
Absolutely.
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:44.159
And that that comes on Mance Joseph also repeating his success with this defense.
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:56.559
Keep Pat Chartan, the number one corner in the league, you know, get Riley Moss better, you know, tape his hands, you know, because he's racially profiled out there.
01:06:56.800 --> 01:07:04.800
Um and uh, you know, that it's it's you know, it's it's gonna be a hard season.
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:09.519
And and again, this is just like you know, like the start of last year.
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:14.159
Um, I said, you know, this is kind of the first year we get to go in with some hope.
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:15.679
We still have hope.
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:20.960
We still get to be high on hope and go, you know, and have faith.
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:27.039
But that first that first six games, I think I'm gonna have to deactivate Twitter.
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:31.519
Don't blame me on smart decision.
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:39.920
Because you know, that Twitter some of that Twitter fan base is just oh, it was an incomplete first pass incomplete.
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:41.199
That's it, season's over.
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.559
Uh shout out Malahai Monsters here.
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:47.840
What a cast!
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:49.199
Thanks, Mike.
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:50.400
Thanks for tuning in.
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:51.679
Thank you.
01:07:52.480 --> 01:08:00.480
Um, one thing I I will so my big thing is that I always try to look to see what games I can go go to.
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:05.360
And because I think you and I were talking about like I really want to go to that buffalo game.
01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:10.239
I was heartbroken when I found out we played them on Christmas.
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:24.000
And just like I'm gonna get to a September Lambo game some point in my life, because September is the only month I trust myself to go to Lambeau because I'm not sitting in an ice bowl.
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:26.000
Um, I'm not made for that.
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:33.039
Uh there's not enough beer and cheese to make me made for that on this little California.
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:42.720
Look, I'm wearing a hoodie inside my house, and it's Alexa, what's the temperature outside?
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:50.720
Because it's 59 degrees outside my house, and I need a hoodie for that.
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:56.159
So November and December in Lambo ain't for me.
01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:57.279
Right.
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:03.279
Unless someone would like to give me a box, then I, you know, I'll go send a box for that.
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:09.600
Um, so yeah, I I I need to make a Buffalo game and you know, some sometime in my life.
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:12.560
Yeah, yeah, it's not gonna happen on Christmas.
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:13.439
Yeah.
01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:17.760
I mean, good thing um for you is that they travel to San Francisco.
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:19.199
I can't wait.
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:20.800
I can't wait.
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:23.680
Um, let's see, San Francisco.
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:32.720
Um, the close well, uh Pittsburgh would be an option, but that's a Black Friday, and I know Black Friday is an absolute no-go in my family, no matter what it is.
01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:36.800
Um not because of shopping, but because we do other things.
01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:45.039
Um am I willing to bear the December cold to go to um MetLife Stadium?
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:46.239
I'm not sure.
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:48.720
That is to be determined.
01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:54.000
Um I thought about like, oh, let's go to Denver.
01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:58.399
I want to go to Denver for the Miami game because I want to see us get that revenge game back.
01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.640
Oh, that's like the revenge game for me.
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:02.960
I don't want it to be a revenge game though.
01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:04.800
I just want it to I wanted J.R.
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:05.439
Smith.
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:07.199
It happened, whatever.
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:08.720
We we've moved on.
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:14.720
I don't want it to be a revenge game, I don't want it to keep being brought at like it's gone.
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:18.319
We've moved on, we've gotten better.
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:20.720
Okay, we took our licks, it's over.
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.960
Putting in my notes, never discuss that game again.
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:27.520
But it's I mean, that's the we Jr.
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:29.439
Smith it for someone who J.R.
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:32.000
Smith it, you you are not Jr.
01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:33.680
Smith, you are not holding up the J.R.
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:34.960
Smith part of our market.
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:35.439
I know.
01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:44.319
Um David, do you get that reference, or are you like, why should you keep talking about J.R.
01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:44.800
Smith?
01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:45.760
I love J.R.
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.079
Smith, so I'm wondering what it means.
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:57.439
Okay, so he was asked a couple years ago if he ever thought about his mess up of like inbounding the ball.
01:10:57.680 --> 01:10:58.880
Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.920
Um, because he didn't realize they were tied.
01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:02.960
No, he's too high.
01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:04.399
Like, I even have a sticker.
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:09.199
Yeah, I found a sticker of like his his his looks high as fuck face.
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:11.359
I'm not accusing him being high, but he looks high as hell.
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:13.680
He was what do you mean you're high?
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:17.600
Yeah, he was still um, and he was asked, Do you ever think about that?
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.680
He said, Nah, I don't think about it at all.
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:22.079
It's done, it's gone.
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:24.239
Why would I dwell on it?
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:25.680
Like it's done.
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:29.359
So when Ty and I JR Smith something, it's supposed to be done.
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.520
We're not supposed to think about it anymore.
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:33.840
And he keeps talking about it.
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:35.680
Oh, okay.
01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:44.960
I just thought it was like because when I watched the Nuggets when he was on the team, I would say, Man, he just got J.R.
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:46.079
Smith itis, man.
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:48.319
Like he just shoot it and did not care.
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:55.119
He didn't care if he was like oh for 10 or you know, if he made every shot, you know, he's just shooting that thing, and it's just whatever.
01:11:55.359 --> 01:12:02.800
No, I'm a big, I'm a big Warriors fan, so that moment live, you know, I love that he completely messed that and LeBron's face.
01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:05.520
The meme they made of LeBron's face.
01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:07.279
Forever in meme history.
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:08.079
Yeah.
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:16.000
So I love that moment as a Warriors fan, but then you know, a couple years ago when they asked him, you know, do you ever think about that?
01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:17.760
He's like, no, I can't change it.
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:19.600
What am I gonna what am I gonna think about?
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:21.840
I can't change the Miami game.
01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:24.000
No one can change it, it happened.
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:36.880
But again, I feel like the Broncos went back into the storm, got the ship right, Miami hasn't, but it's not, it's done.
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:42.640
We we made it had us get better, and that that that's all we need to know.
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:44.239
Absolutely.
01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:51.119
All right, we don't need to think about it anymore.
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:53.680
I like that.
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:58.800
Um, so talking about the schedule, since I'm gonna actually forget about it now.
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:07.520
Um, David, looking at this schedule, what are you and Kelly and I normally do our game by game prediction during training?
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.119
September, yeah, during training camp.
01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:10.159
Oh, okay, cool.
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:16.399
So what are your thoughts on how this team's gonna do as it as it stands right now?
01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:20.880
Uh, you know, I'm someone who's like kind of superstitious.
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:26.479
So last year I thought I was going out on a limb with 13 and 4.
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:32.000
I thought that that was like definitely putting the the orange colored glasses on.
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:34.560
But we eclipsed that, and I was surprised.
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:36.800
So this year, I'm just gonna stick with it.
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:39.199
13 and 4, I think, is good.
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:47.760
Um again, you know, probably that line, I bet Vegas settles on like probably 10 and a half or like 11 and a half wins.
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:55.600
Um, which more realistically, like I can maybe the 11 and a half I can get with, but I don't know.
01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:58.560
I just got faith that our Broncos are gonna pull things through.
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:12.000
Again, you don't bring 20 of your 22 starters back and upgrade one of those starter starting positions, you know, with Jalen Waddell, um, and not expect to be one of the top teams in the NFL.
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:23.680
And if they're not, then they're you know, there's some players are gonna get let go, some coaches are gonna go, you know, but this is their opportunity to prove that they were one holding call away from Super Bowl.
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.079
So I'm expecting them to win the AFC West.
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:30.000
I think they sweep the the Chiefs again this year.
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:33.039
And uh I don't know.
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:50.560
I I just I just have confidence that this team will get off to a faster start because or at least it'll look better because they don't when you look at those first six playoff teams, you can't come in here like we did against Tennessee last year saying, ah man, we can kind of figure things out.
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:52.239
You don't have that luxury.
01:14:52.479 --> 01:15:03.520
So I think this start, it depends on how you look at it, but I think it will benefit the Broncos um getting the tough opponents right at the beginning, and hopefully they'll be better for it.
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:04.880
Absolutely.
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:06.800
Um, I actually just looked it up.
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:12.000
Uh, right now, Vegas has us at a regular season win total at nine and a half.
01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:13.600
Nine and a half?
01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:15.840
Man, I might need to get in on that.
01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.640
I think that you know they should take that personally.
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:19.840
That's a slap in the face.
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:21.199
Nine and a half, really.
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:24.079
Yeah, were we just a fluke last year?
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:27.279
Yeah, books are projecting a regression, right?
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:28.560
Because they didn't believe it.
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:30.079
Win after win after win.
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:33.439
They didn't believe it, they didn't believe it, they didn't believe it, they didn't believe it.
01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:35.199
Nine and a half.
01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:37.119
That's crazy to me.
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:38.159
Yep.
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:43.439
And Denver has a plus 2,000 to win the Super Bowl.
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:50.239
Yeah, I think they're around like team 13 or 14 or something like that when it comes to the highest Super Bowl odds.
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:52.640
Again, I think that that's crazy.
01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:56.079
Um, yeah, this is gonna be a good year.
01:15:56.159 --> 01:16:02.560
This is the first year we've had since Peyton Manning, where the expectation legitimately is Super Bowl.
01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:06.960
So yeah, uh, that's it's gonna be fun watching the team this year with that in mind.
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:10.079
Um, odds makers.
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:12.079
I actually am now just reading this.
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:15.039
Kansas City, 10 and a half wins.
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:19.520
What they won six games last year, exactly.
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:23.359
They have a whole new secondary, bunch of young guys.
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:24.239
Mm-hmm.
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:27.119
Man, that's crazy.
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:28.880
That's crazy.
01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:32.960
I might have to take the over on Denver and the under on KC.
01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:34.000
Yep.
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:41.119
And so if you're you're listening or watching and you're betting person, better go hit those books now.
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:42.479
Yeah, for real.
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:51.359
Um, so the bettings were like Kansas City 10 and a half, Denver's tied with the Chargers at nine and a half, and the Raiders are five and a half.
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:54.079
Okay, huh?
01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:56.479
Chargers, man.
01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:58.000
I don't even think about them.
01:16:58.640 --> 01:16:59.199
Yeah.
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:02.479
As you said earlier, Chargers gonna charger.
01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:04.399
Yeah, that's what they're gonna do.
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:08.159
As is the Raiders are gonna raid her.
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:09.039
Yeah, yeah.
01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:10.399
Sorry, Kubiak.
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:13.680
Yeah, that's that's gonna be rough for him.
01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:14.720
Yeah, it's okay.
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:16.319
He'll get out of there fast.
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:24.079
Uh, so with that being oh, oh, I forgot about the preseason schedule.
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:30.560
So because we play only eight home games, we get two um home games in the preseason.
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:33.840
We get Green Bay, Minnesota at home, and then Atlanta on the road.
01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:46.159
Which is I find this very interesting that we have this because from all the years that I've been watching Broncos football, I'm always used to the preseason.
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:52.720
Either we're playing San Francisco, Seattle, Arizona, Dallas on a blue moon.
01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:54.800
Um, and then there was another team.
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:57.039
No, I think those were like really the four teams.
01:17:57.199 --> 01:17:57.520
Yeah.
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:01.039
Well, San Francisco was a gentleman's agreement.
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:02.000
Yes.
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.399
And I think Peyton's not part of that gentleman group.
01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:07.279
That's fair.
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:22.640
Yeah, when we had Kubiac and and and Wade and you know, and Lynch went over to the nine, you know, these are guys that know each other, they trust, you know, players aren't gonna kill each other, and you know, it's it, you know, it's fine.
01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:28.000
Um, I don't think Peyton's part of that gentleman circle, and so it's like, hmm, yeah, we're done with that.
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:34.159
So, you know, it's light beer, so you know.
01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:35.680
It's light beer.
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:46.000
Um, so at Atlanta, Green Bay, Minnesota, man, that's just that's very that's a very interesting preeseason slate there.
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.520
Um especially that last one with Minnesota.
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.359
You probably well gonna see starters in game one or two.
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:54.880
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:56.000
And he might play star.
01:18:56.239 --> 01:19:04.640
I mean, he usually plays starters in game three, but you know, he's not in charge of the offense this year, um, supposedly.
01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:06.399
So, you know.
01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:08.079
Okay.
01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:17.520
Yeah, so these are teams that have so we have they have Michael Penix, Jordan Love, and I guess JJ McCarthy is starting in Minnesota.
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:18.479
Kyler Murray.
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:19.279
I think it'll be Kyler.
01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:20.479
Oh, Kyler Murray.
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:21.359
Oh my gosh.
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:23.119
I totally forgot he went to Minnesota.
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:24.079
I know, I know.
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:24.800
It's weird.
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:26.159
We'll see how he does.
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:29.279
And and here comes again the Kelly Iroll.
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:30.800
Right.
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:37.119
He'd make a lot more money and be happier if he had to stuck to his promise, but whatever.
01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:38.880
You know what?
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:41.520
I I think since we've brought this is the second time it's been brought up.
01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:46.079
Um, Kelly, why don't you tell David your beef with Kyler Murray?
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:50.640
I was a very big Oakland A's fan when I was a girl.
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:52.960
I got to be an Oakland A's fat girl.
01:19:53.199 --> 01:20:06.399
Um and he promised and signed a contract to play for the A's, and then he reneged on it to be an Arizona Cardinal of all things.
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:09.439
So, you know, I just it's it's a personal beef.
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:10.479
He's my mortal enemy.
01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:12.399
He doesn't know I exist, I don't care.
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.920
I can hate him from afar, and that's what I'm gonna do.
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:18.079
Yeah, it's gonna be short.
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:21.920
And I don't, I'm not even an A's fan anymore because they left me.
01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:29.840
Um, but you know, he still broke a promise, so that's right.
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:31.439
You gotta hold him to it.
01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:39.680
When Kelly holds beef, it's oh yeah, my grudges are forever.
01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:41.840
Yeah, it's a big thing with her.
01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:48.479
I mean, the only thing that's gonna stop some of my grudges is you know dementia, which not only I don't get.
01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:54.880
But that's the only thing, that's the only thing that's gonna make me make me let him go is if my brain suddenly doesn't remember him.
01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:56.000
But I remember.
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.800
I remember Kelly Jane remembers.
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:06.560
I I think at some point I'm gonna create a meme um and have your face on the pepperage farm first guy.
01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:08.079
Kelly remembers.
01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:09.520
Kelly remembers.
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:13.760
Um, shout out to Jay over here.
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.159
Oh wow, look at this crossover.
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:18.399
Thanks for tuning in, Jay.
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:27.439
Um, on that note, any final thoughts on this offseason before Kelly and I close it up for season seven?
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:28.880
Oh, go ahead.
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:40.079
This is something that going back to the draft, the way that I've kind of compared the Tyler O'Neadem pick is to like Pat Bryant when he was picked.
01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:44.720
Because like I studied the offensive guys a little bit more just because that's like more fun, obviously.
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:52.159
But I like I really liked Pat Bryant last year, and I was like, you know, he'd be a really good fit for like what the Broncos need.
01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:55.199
Um, but then when he was picked in the third round, people are like, What?
01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:56.000
Who is this guy?
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:59.680
We could have on my mock drafts, we could have got him in the sixth round, you know.
01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:12.399
This is but I was like, Man, he's such a good player, and um I think Tyler Onyedum, he was kind of picked in that same mold of Pat Bryant, but for the defense, so that's my selling point.
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:15.760
If you like Pat Bryant, maybe you'll like Tyler O'Nedim.
01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:19.279
So yes, yes, put it on t-shirt, Kelly.
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:21.520
I got so much, yeah.
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:24.000
Like that's now I think two t-shirts this season.
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:25.680
This is what funny.
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:31.359
I come up with the one-liners, like I've got, you know, I I come up with the catchphrases.
01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:32.399
Yeah, J.R.
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:34.239
Smith, you got a JR Smith it.
01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:35.600
You got a JR Smith it.
01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:38.560
If a defense can predict you, a defense can defend you.
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:41.600
The only thing that stops a beef is dementia.
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:44.399
You know, on the merch.
01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:45.279
Uh uh.
01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:49.920
Uh what level is stupid?
01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:52.079
Michael Crabtree level is stupid.
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:53.439
Antonio Brown.
01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:54.399
Antonio Brown.
01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:56.800
Antonio Brown level is stupid.
01:22:57.680 --> 01:22:59.279
And over your big one right here.
01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:00.159
There are what?
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:02.560
Three phase well, that's not mine.
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:08.720
There are three phases of the games, not mine, but it is football law number two.
01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:15.840
Yeah, I think that's what I think that's the second like um quote.
01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:20.479
And it's funny because it always it happened last time when we had a guest as well.
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:24.880
So your one-liners, like maybe we should need more guests so that way you can have more one-liners.
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:30.960
I'm like trying to figure out how I can put this in a video or whatever.
01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:36.159
But you know, like Drake dropped like three albums this weekend or whatever, and they're like all horrible.
01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:38.079
But he's got like this one line.
01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:44.079
Yeah, he's like getting blown up because I guess he just dropped all these to like get out of his contract or whatever.
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:52.960
So yeah, but he's got like this one line that's like, I'm out of sodas, I might just walk to Circle K by myself or something like that.
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:56.159
And I'm like, that's a great one-liner.
01:23:56.239 --> 01:23:58.079
I might just walk to Circle K by myself.
01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:00.720
You know, I gotta figure out how to include that in there.
01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:03.279
That's read that's regional though.
01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:08.640
Because where I lived in where I lived in Texas, it would be the conico.
01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:12.640
See, you know, I I live in San Antonio now.
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:14.239
Here it's 7-Eleven.
01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:15.439
7-Eleven.
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:16.399
Yeah, Circle K.
01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:23.600
Circle Circle K is really regional because you know, so yeah, yeah, he should have done a more trip here.
01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:31.520
Yeah, yeah, quick trip, QT, or you know, oh my god, if he if he's in the right area, if he makes it Bucky's.
01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:34.319
Oh, Bucky's is the best, yeah.
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:41.359
So yeah, he should, he should have gone more a little less regional, and it yeah, it would blow up.
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:43.359
Yeah, but Circle K.
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:44.399
Shout out to Circle K.
01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:52.640
Yeah, and if Circle K's got money, they need to, you know, they need to put it on a shirt and on the koozies and on the you know on the popcorn buckets.
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:54.319
Oh yeah.
01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:58.159
Yeah, we only have Wawa and Sheets here.
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:03.279
Which um who's attached to all your gas stations?
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:05.119
Oh no, we we have we have Seneca.
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:06.159
We have Seneco.
01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:07.439
Oh, yeah.
01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:09.199
What about Tim Hortons?
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:12.239
Does it get down to no doesn't Pennsylvania?
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:13.600
Right?
01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:15.760
Wawa and Tim Hortons is coffee, right?
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:17.439
Yeah, Wawa's coffee.
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:21.199
It's like now it's become like this super where you can like buy food and things like that, too.
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:24.319
Oh gosh, I I had a feeling I forgot one.
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:25.359
Here's one for you.
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:26.800
Midwest come and go.
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:27.600
Come and go.
01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:30.079
That's the wildest gas station name.
01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:30.800
That is.
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:39.359
I think I passed by, I think there is one here in Pennsylvania, and I saw it, and I'm like, um, someone did not think this through like thoroughly.
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:40.800
Oh, yes, they did.
01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:45.920
They thought that's why where are you gonna stop?
01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:53.039
If you have the choice between sunko and the come and go, where are you gonna go?
01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:55.359
You could have spelled it c o M E.
01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:00.560
That's why I know that's why you know it was thought through.
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:18.479
Because if they had missed if they had spelled it the correct way, C-O-M e, you'd go, oh, that's just someone, you know, English maybe language, they're not up on the slang, but they spelled it with that K instead of that C because they know they knew what they were doing, they knew.
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:21.680
I'm sorry, I think I mispronounced it.
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:24.079
I think it's pronounced Sinoco, I think is what I'm thinking of.
01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:28.319
Yeah, that makes sense.
01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:32.880
But yeah, I do know that there is uh C U M and Go around here too.
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.680
I'm like, oh gosh, this is they thought it through.
01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:44.560
Because I walked into there and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm reading it, I'm like, wow, he really did that.
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:48.479
I mean, it works, doesn't it?
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:49.600
People talk about it.
01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:50.319
Yeah?
01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:53.760
How many Midwest gas stations have you been to, Jay?
01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:56.319
Oh, me?
01:26:57.279 --> 01:26:57.680
Sorry.
01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:00.159
Well, I was talking to Jay since he brought it up.
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:01.279
Oh, I thought you said Jay.
01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:03.279
But we've all heard of it.
01:27:04.880 --> 01:27:05.199
Right?
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:14.560
Like I've spent maybe a total of five days of my life in the Midwest, but I've heard of I've heard of that gas station.
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:15.920
Yeah, yeah.
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:22.560
Oh boy.
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:25.840
How did we get to gas stations?
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:27.279
Oh, because the day.
01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:28.640
Oh, my one liners.
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:29.199
That's right.
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:30.079
I brought it up.
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:31.920
Can't it happen?
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:36.239
Yeah.
01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:44.079
If you just fast forward through some of the podcasts and what you landed on, there are no guarantees.
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:49.920
I might have this into like a YouTube short, just this whole conversation right here.
01:27:50.319 --> 01:27:50.960
Yes.
01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:58.239
Like talking about gas stations and can uh Drake no Drake CDs that or Drake albums, I should say.
01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:01.840
Drake albums plus Gas stations equals chaos.
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:04.239
Yes.
01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:06.159
That's why we need football.
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We don't know we don't we don't know how to hold I mean yesterday like the whole the finance guy like all we talked about was football while he you know put in numbers and I'm like okay this quickest you know oh gosh this is what I talk about I don't uh why world events the the direct happened um oh there was one more big news I totally forgot about before we go um the Broncos extended George Payton oh yeah oh yeah yeah good good deal yeah we win a lot so let's keep it going yeah the the last couple years with Bo really pulled him out of the hole yes yes finding Sean Payton and letting Sean Payton take control uh yeah kind of pulled him out of the hole if if Bo Nix and Sean Payton had not been successful he would not have been extended I guarantee it oh absolutely and so now he is with the team until at the latest 2030 is is is the Kardashian still Dayton our our race driver dude owner oh um I know you're talking about I Hamilton uh Lewis is it oh yeah Lewis Hamilton see okay oh yeah um I need someone to end that yeah so as of oh did they write it yeah so he's dating Kim Kardashian but I just the first the first article that pops up is Kanye West concocting a manipulative plan to break them up good yeah go Kanye uh homeworkers side chicks bat bat single whatever it is go break that shit up let's go gosh could you imagine if they're sailed together week one Taylor Swiss and Bardashian I don't want they've already ruined basketball the carcass in single handedly added in the downfall of the NBA get them the fuck away from my NFL team and now more chaos now now and this one will definitely be clipped and shared on the uh youtube as well um before say that again I said I made the dogs next door start barking as I got that videos open well before it gets any chaotic do we have any final thoughts that are football related I should say that is football related okay that is okay well I was thinking it was more like celebrity but I argue that is football related fair enough that is a minor owner of our team messing with with the plastic dolls that are the Kardashians who have ruined at least four NBA careers that's fair that's honestly fair and they're moving on to the NFL because there's no one left in the NBA that will touch them I mean if we could just move if we can find a way to move them to maybe base uh no maybe not base let's get them away from all sports soccer soccer makes so much more money guys soccer that's perfect all right oh sorry david david's like okay the the the term went way left I wish I had jokes to add but I don't it's all good there's got to be like my silicone and mile hot doesn't doesn't mix right something something it was that's right that's right some hope right the silicone and the in the high altitude and and something anything right it'll make it it'll make it expand and explode in them right like a like a helium balloon the higher up you go oh yeah that's true yes yeah it's dangerous someone get that knowledge into the Kardashian okay researching now um I'll do that off screen now um on that note David thank you so much for joining us um we appreciate your yeah um before you before we do go um why don't you tell a little bit of why don't you tell our viewers um any projects you're working on where they might find you um I did actually realize that I was not subscribed to your YouTube channel so I actually corrected that right before I came here.
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Well fantastic I'm subscribed to your YouTube channel now so we're all on the same page it's fantastic um if you're listening from uh you know Spotify come over to YouTube sometime that's where you'll find me David Talks Broncos for daily broncos content and crazy ideas and David Talks buffs if you like Car Auto Buffalo's uh college football so uh got those two channels going tapping anytime and um yeah would would love for anybody to stop by so guys uh really appreciate you having me on this was a lot of fun and uh always happy to come back on again okay oh absolutely uh we're gonna hold you to that yes do it hold any any um guest that says that we always hold them to it that sounds great we'll talk again sounds good all right Kelly ready to close this out uh sure uh um I don't quite have the the outro memorized um so uh as always you can find me on twitter at I love to lead you can find me at tiefly guy15 you can find us both at the same time at in underscore com underscore pleat underscore two because there's two of us um all those DMs are open you are welcome to send challenge flags song requests we didn't do a lot of bad karaoke last season um so if that's something you missed you know send us some songs um questions comments concerns guest requests um I beg of you to be polite and to stay closed if sliding into someone's DM is not for you you can send us an email uh in underscore com underscore pleat at outlook.com um we're also available uh we're also on instagram in underscore com underscore pleat underscore two um which um hopefully will be more active um there um youtube we are um gosh you now I'm losing it we are live every Wednesday as you oh perfect it's scrolling right now every Wednesday it'll be starting in August at 9 15 my time 8 15 central 715 mountain um yeah mountain time where most where most of you are or 6 15 kelly time um and if you cannot tune in at that time because I know that's usually a weeknight so it's a little late for some of us you can always um sorry we're always available at least 24 hours afterwards on Apple Spotify basically wherever it is that you listen to your podcasts um and leave uh leave a review comments because as much as we love to do this podcast we're going into our eighth season coming up um if there's if you don't if you have some changes in mind and you don't tell us we cannot help you just keep that in mind who knows maybe we'll have more of these random moments about gas stations and plastic dolls and things like that oh yeah I mean go listen to seven years worth seven years worth and who knows maybe we'll get some merch going up if we have something that's funny.
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To be fair if you want quick concise podcasts are fifth years the season to go listen to um because those stayed right around our goal time of 45 minutes.
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Yeah we lost it sucks yeah we're gonna lose next week okay great bye see you later if you want quick concise and no tangents the the fifth season is the one to go listen to but all the other ones um there's just no guarantee where where where the talk takes us exactly um and on that note um that this will conclude season seven otherwise known as the downway season and it was a lot of fun uh thanking all the guests that jumped on thanking to all of you this is our first full year finishing up with um YouTube um to going live and so we will be back on YouTube again next year and I expect to see a lot more of you here yes but on that note and until then and until August go Broncos well usually all year round it is go broncos go broncos so and see you guys stop the Kardashians right bye Kardashians thanks for listening to the Incomplete podcast tune in next time for more Broncos news from two of your favorite fans be sure to subscribe to the podcast on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and share the podcast with your friends and family.
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Go Broncos
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Welcome to L Top, providing Broadcoat country with their takes and analysis from coast to coast.
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So let's run it, wrap up, protect your chains, and make sure your Broadcoat coverage isn't.
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Hello, listeners, and welcome back to the Incomplete podcast.
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Where your coast to coast hosts provides you with news, coverage, and opinions of all things Denver Broncos, plus anything else that's on our minds.
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I am Ty, and I'm joined by my wonderful co-host and best friend Kelly.
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It has been a long time since we were last here.
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With the Broncos going getting to the AFC Championship game, I would have thought they would have made a lot of moves, but they mostly stayed pat.
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The patience of Broncos Country was tested all winter and into spring.
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Yeah, so it's a testament that Sean is gonna roll the dice with who he has.
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And you know, to be fair, we gave Sean Payton a lot of slack when he's like, I can take this team to the Super Bowl.
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And we were like, really?
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This team?
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Are you sure?
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And you know, I I think we would have made it if if Bo hadn't if the refs knew how to call a holding in the end zone.
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Um and unfortunately Bo didn't go down.
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So him kind of staying the course and staying with this personnel really speaks to how much he believes that.
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Absolutely.
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I think it shows a lot of I I I want to say I think I'm gonna use the word trust here.
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That he that he's got the team that he needs.
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It's just like a few couple pieces that need to be adjust uh, we'll call it adjusted, not exactly fixed.
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But the picture's a little crooked.
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We gotta, you know, straighten up the frame.
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Yep, gotta straighten out the frame just a little bit.
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Um, but before we do recap everything that has happened, with this being our off-season episode, not to mention the finale of season seven.
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And it was such a great one.
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We do have a special guest to help break it all down.
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He is the host of two podcasts covering Colorado Sports, a lifelong Broncos fan and very knowledgeable of the Broncos.
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One podcaster I saw last night on Twitter says he is very dreamy.
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Incomplete listeners and viewers, we like to welcome David to the podcast.
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Thanks for having me, guys.
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I'm excited to be here.
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Thank you.
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We're so happy you're here.
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We are so very happy you're here.
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Um, my understanding is that with the Broncos, you got started not too long ago and you've had quite a bit of um following.
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Yeah, who would have thought?
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You know, uh this has kind of been a childhood dream, I guess, that I've been like trying to get back in touch with.
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I had a YouTube channel called Bronco Boy when I was like 14 or 15 years old, right when uh Josh McDaniels took over.
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I was doing these videos on like trying to convince myself that Kyle Orton was gonna be a good quarterback.
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That channel didn't last very long.
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So after I started getting into YouTube a little bit, you know, I'm like, I need to see if I can do this for real.
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And uh it's it's been fun, it's been fun meeting a lot of Broncos fans all over the country.
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It's it's made my experience as a fan so much more rich.
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So um I love connecting with you guys, and I I can't wait to talk about the team.
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We're excited to have you.
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I'm curious to hear about all that has happened with the team and your thoughts on it.
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And of course, Kelly and I have talked a little bit here and there, so I'm very curious to hear your in-depth and analysis on all of it.
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Oh man, well, where to start?
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It's probably been one of the weirdest offseasons, I feel like we've had uh definitely, you know, a broken ankle away from the Super Bowl, right?
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Maybe a shot put pass away from the Super Bowl.
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Uh away from the Super Bowl.
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Right, just gonna say that.
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All these things, you know, it was uh, I I think some of us, including myself, you know, I was expecting like a ton of moves.
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But looking back, the most important thing was that we got another big time wide receiver.
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So we got that in Jalen Waddell, and uh, you know, we'll see.
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I think that they feel like they were so close.
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So Sean Payton's saying, hey, we'll run it back with what I think 20 out of our 22 starters or something close like that.
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And hopefully we can have a little bit more depth behind everything, and and that will be what puts us over the top.
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But if we don't win the Super Bowl this year, I I think that there will be some more changes rather than seeing you know one free agent signing uh this year.
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It's crazy that Tyson Anderson is our only free agent signing, and he might not like he's coming in to compete for a roster spot at the safety position.
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So we could be in a world in which really our just our new players were the you know six or seven players, I think that we drafted, and then uh Jalen Waddle, and that's about it.
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Pretty weird off season, very weird indeed.
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Which speaking of Jalen Waddle, let's just jump right into it.
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So perhaps so when free agency started, um they well, there was like the tampering period, so day one tampering period, nothing happens.
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They do the tampering period, nothing happens.
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The offseason starts, still nothing.
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I think we went almost a week without anything happening, minus the re-signing, and then all of a sudden, one random I think it was a Tuesday, Tuesday afternoon, an alert comes up.
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The Broncos have traded for Dolphins wide receiver Jalen Waddell for and they also got a fourth round pick out of it.
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In exchange, we gave up uh our first round pick this year, our third round pick this year, and our fourth round pick this year as well.
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It was pretty much basically a swap of fourth rounders.
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Um so I have to ask, let's go around the room.
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When we heard that Jalen Waddell was gonna be a Denver Bronco, what were our first reactions?
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I thought about time we had our own like speedster version of like Tyreek Hill.
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That guy was just always a terrible man to guard, and we needed some juice, some speed.
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And uh I think we went from maybe kind of a I mean, I like all of our wide receivers, I like Cortland Sutton, you know, I like all these guys that we got, but didn't necessarily maybe have that top-end talent that some of the other rooms got.
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So I I was I was just thrilled to have a weapon that will give defensive coordinators nightmares.
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And you know, we gotta do the best by bone nicks, we gotta, we gotta exhaust every resource possible.
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Jalen Waddell is way better than anybody we could draft at pick 30, especially at the you know, for this year.
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So I man, I I was thrilled.
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And props to George Payton for pulling the trigger on another deal.
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We've been waiting a while, you know.
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Obviously, Rust didn't work out, but that's okay.
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I don't think that was completely his fault.
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Uh I like this trade.
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I like this trade a lot, and I don't think we gave up too much, especially with getting that fourth round pick back.
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I think it was nice for the you know, Cage Casey.
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Is that who we got uh with with that pick?
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Yep.
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Yeah, he could be a starting offensive lineman for us in a year or so.
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So uh we'll we'll see.
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But Kelly, what'd you think?
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I like, I mean, I I really feel bad about our wide receiver room because I like the guys.
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Yeah, they just don't always deliver and they don't always step up, you know.
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Like I want Sorton to set Sutton to be more than a flash in a pan, you know.
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Like, I don't know how many times on broadcast you heard it took till the fourth quarter, but now he's here.
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So something is happening.
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If it if it's because it's the only name we have, so he's getting, you know, double teamed all the time, you know.
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Um we needed a weapon for Bo.
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I mean, we we we gotta go all in on Bo.
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We've we've stood beside him, we've heard how he's trash, how he's the worst um quarterback in his draft, you know, he's been compared across the draft class, but he's done really, really well and he's exceeded expectations.
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And if Sean Payton's all in and we're all in, we yeah, we we have to give him the tools.
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We've seen too many.
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Uh quarterback, we we've seen too many times.
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There's too many interesting, you know, instances in NFL history.
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A quarterback cannot do it alone.
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The quarterback, I mean, very seldom does the quarterback throw and catch the ball.
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You know, the quarterback can, you know, other than the the flute passes, you know, here and there, the quarterback cannot throw to himself.
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He cannot drop back and get downfield and and and catch the ball.
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So, and and we really need that because we've seen Bo can throw, Bo can go downfield.
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We need, you know, we need more than the threats that we have.
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And again, it's so hard to say because it's hard to criticize the football without feeling like you're criticizing the guy.
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Yeah.
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And I like our guys, you know, the the and you know, I like that we didn't bring in a whole bunch of people because I do feel like the culture of the Denver Broncos has finally kind of gotten back to where these guys want to play for their coach, they want to play for each other, they show up for each other.
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And when you when you get certain people in locker rooms, that goes away and and and the fall off is steep.
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That's a wonderful point.
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Yeah, so um, you know, as long as he blends in with our culture, it's a great pick.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I think he does, you know, he's like Pat Sertan's best friend.
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He knows Pat Sertan's one of those corners that doesn't have an ego either.
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So the the fact that you're bringing that up, I think it's yeah, we don't really have the the divas, the prima donna.
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You know, and divas never done the closest thing to diva we had in Denver was Brandon Marshall, and you know, he didn't last.
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No, you know, Denver doesn't that you know, Denver as a city kind of doesn't put up with it, it's not okay.
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I mean, um Shannon Sharp calls himself a princess tight end, you know.
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Um, but that's just because he's like, I'm not gonna block.
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Yeah, we were like, okay, cool, you do you do enough of the other stuff, no problem.
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Forgot we had Jerry Judy too.
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Jerry Judy kind of had that little reputation.
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And he didn't last, did he?
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Yeah, he didn't last, did he?
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And he wanted to talk shit during the Clealing game, and what the fuck happened, Judy?
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So, you know, it it doesn't, it's not Denver's not a culture with KC where we can take the big egos, where we let it ride, you know, it it just it doesn't work in Denver, it doesn't work in Denver football.
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No.
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Um, so you know, I I hope it brings great things, and as much as I love Court Cortland Senton, yeah, we we need we need people catching Bo's passes before the fourth quarter.
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Well said, absolutely.
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I will say to add on to your um Bo can't throw and catch, there's one quarterback that I can think of that has actually done that, and that was Marcus Mariota in that playoff game against the uh there's been a couple Tom Brady a couple times has had a pass batted to him.
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I think Jalen Hurts did it in like a playoff game, like uh Kyle Murley's done it a couple times because his passes are so easy to bat.
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Um I'm not ever gonna forgive the dude.
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I'm sorry.
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Um just a reminder my personal beef with Kyle Murray is alive and well.
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Um, so it you know, it it's happened, you know, a handful of times.
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Or I I think Rogers has gotten one or Farr got one.
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I think a Packer quarterback got one.
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Like it's not, you know, and I know there's always the trick play where we, you know, they run the the quarterback down and the quarterback catches it, you know.
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Brady's done that a couple times and stuff like that, but they're not they're not the ones throwing the ball in that instance.
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So, you know, it's you know, you know, you quote, I quote uh any given Sunday all the time.
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It's the ultimate team sport.
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Yep, you have to have all those men on the field and all those gears have to be clicking for for you to win.
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Yep.
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Well, since we're talking about quarterbacks catching the ball, one moment that comes to my mind is this being in the Philadelphia area.
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You want Philly Philly?
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Oh, yeah, yeah, we could do that.
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Yeah, oh, and um Bo caught Bo actually caught a pass too.
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So we had our own Philly special two years ago.
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Yeah, who was that against?
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I'm trying to remember.
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It was the Ravens.
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That's right, yeah, they destroyed us like they normally do.
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Yeah, that was, I think, the only touchdown we had that entire game.
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Yeah, man.
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The Bo hype the Bo hype was real, and then the Ravens kind of put a stop to it for a little bit.
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Yeah, that was a tough game.
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Yeah.
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Um, so we have here oh, um, one little tidbit that I found out today.
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Uh Jalen Waddle was the sixth overall pick in the 2020 2021 NFL draft.
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And guess who was drafted three picks after him?
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Pat Sertan, that's right.
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Pat Sertan.
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I forgot they were the same draft.
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Yeah.
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How about that?
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How about that?
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So Waddle, so a little some stats.
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Sorry, let me try that again.
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Some stats on Waddle.
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Um last season had 64 catches for 910 yards and six touchdowns.
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Respectable.
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I can that's definitely something that we need.
00:14:49.360 --> 00:15:03.279
Um, since he's entered the league, and this is gonna be among all AFC wide receivers, fourth in receiving yards, sixth in receptions, seventh in receiving touchdowns, and he's had the fifth most 100-yard games.
00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:04.879
Wow.
00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:15.840
So sounds like a top 10 receiver in the AFC, which is probably something we need to help ease the pressures that are Cortland Sutton.
00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:23.120
And one other thing that I want to talk about, um, Kelly kind of pointed out like the wide receivers are so inconsistent.
00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:28.320
The inconsistency part of it, it's the catches, they cannot catch the ball.
00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:38.320
There are some times where like they're wide open and they drop a pass, and we're all in Broncos Country collectively go sighing, like, oh my gosh.
00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.799
Yeah, because I'm really and you know, because I'm tired of the Twitter debate.
00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:44.240
That that was bow's throw.
00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:46.320
No, that was the receiver can't catch.
00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:47.759
You you gotta catch the ball.
00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:49.919
I mean, you have to catch the ball.
00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.320
I mean, I always go back to Emmanuel Sanders.
00:15:52.480 --> 00:16:01.919
I that man did not care if he had to cartwheel, if he had to somersault, if he had to backflip, wherever Peyton put that ball, Emmanuel Sanders could come down with that ball.
00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:10.159
Like the the the this concept that the NFL football, the ball's gonna come straight to your little triangled hands is stupid.
00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:12.240
No, it's not called football.
00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:13.919
That's not how it worked.
00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.960
Yeah, so I mean, yes, both behind.
00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:27.279
I mean, Bo's not perfect, you know, but uh so many of those catches, so many of those drops I felt should have been passes or catches.
00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:29.600
Well, I just remember now, too.
00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:38.480
One big offseason change is that they fired the wide receivers coach, uh Carrie Colbert, and they brought in uh Ronald Curry.
00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:45.120
And so that's very my whole thing with the coach is like we saw everybody dropping passes all the time.
00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.000
I think we were what second in the NFL and drop passes.
00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:58.879
Uh so when it's that sort of an issue with everybody, maybe go and get new wide receiver coach, and hopefully everybody can improve a little bit, right?
00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:03.200
Like, so absolutely, it's gotta be something with the coaching if everybody's struggling with it.
00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:04.160
Oh, yeah.
00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:06.319
Catch the baby, yeah.
00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:14.720
All right, so um, yeah, catch the baby for sure.
00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:15.920
And I totally forgot about that.
00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:17.039
So I'm hoping.
00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.440
Oh, you know what else I forgot?
00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:27.519
We speaking of offense, we have a new um offensive coordinator slash play caller now.
00:17:27.759 --> 00:17:30.160
That's probably the biggest change of the offseason.
00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:36.480
Oh, that was big news because Sean Payton swore up and down he was not giving up play calling.
00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.880
Now we got Davis Webb calling the plays in 2026.
00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:42.160
That's interesting.
00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:47.200
That was interesting because he swore, I'm gonna be the play caller, I'm gonna be the play caller.
00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:51.039
Um, and then suddenly, no, that's okay.
00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:54.400
Maybe we couldn't keep Webb unless Peyton gave it up.
00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:58.640
Yeah, because he he was interviewing for quite a few jobs from what I remember.
00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:02.079
So maybe he came back and said, nah, you gotta let me run it.
00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.160
And so help me guide Davis Webb.
00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:08.079
If you run a screen pass on third and eight, or we'll find you.
00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:13.200
I'm excited for that though.
00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:16.960
I mean, and light your shoes on fire.
00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:23.519
Yeah, I had like a kind of a love hate with the Sean Payton.
00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:35.119
It's like at the end of the day, like we still I think we're like a fringe top 10 offense with like points, but it's like how we would get those that sometimes it just didn't seem sustainable.
00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:42.640
Like well, yeah, as an older Bronco fan, it just reminded me so much of the later Dan Reeve years with John O.
00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:52.960
A with with the the run the rock, run the rock, which that's what football was, you know, in in in the 70s and the early 80s.
00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.839
Run the rock, run the rock, we run the rock, we run the rock.
00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:12.319
And when he couldn't now, if he'd use Shanahan zone blocking instead of kicking him to the Raiders, and then we had to hire him back to replace him, then maybe we could have run the rock a little bit more, but he wouldn't do the zone blocking either.
00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:20.240
So it's just, and then you know, it'd be the fourth quarter, and okay, we're down by two, you got four minutes, you know, whatever, LA, do whatever you're gonna do.
00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:21.440
And LA kept doing it.
00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:23.279
And you know, sometimes it wasn't sustainable.
00:19:23.519 --> 00:19:26.480
Sometimes LA couldn't complete the comeback.
00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:46.079
Um, he just did so many times, but you know, it got easier with LA when it could be a balanced game, and it you didn't have to, you know, suddenly with you know, two minutes and 12 football seconds left, be like, okay, we're gonna march the ball down.
00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:49.279
Defense is gonna get me the ball back, we're gonna march him down again.
00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:52.799
You know, I mean, I love Warren Moon's, you know, quote.
00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:58.480
If there's more, if if I've got two minutes and I'm not up by three scores, I haven't won the game against LA.
00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:07.359
LA's gonna come take that game, you know, and that that that that quote up there, you know, is up there with uh Steve Smith's quote about Champ Bailey.
00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:12.240
The earth is 70% covered by water, the rest is covered by Champ Bailey.
00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:20.880
So, you know, um, you can have great players, but you know, again, it's it's it just felt so much like that.
00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:23.599
We're gonna do it this way, we're gonna win this way, we're gonna win this way.
00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:25.039
Oh shit, we're not winning.
00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:26.880
Okay, Bo, go do whatever.
00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:35.599
Yeah, and it's not we're not in a position where we can do that to Bo and keep him.
00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:40.079
You know, you know, LA wasn't gonna jump shit.
00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:44.240
Bo gets too frustrated, it's too easy for Bo to jump shit.
00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:56.160
Absolutely, you know, but you know, LA played in an era where you just kind of stayed with your team and okay, this sucks, but this is you know, I threw my big fit.
00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:57.279
This is where I came.
00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:00.799
You know, Bo's gonna be like, oh shit, my contract's over.
00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:01.279
Bye.
00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:02.240
Yeah.
00:21:02.880 --> 00:21:05.839
Yeah, I'm hoping we get out to some more fast starts.
00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:14.720
Like, yeah, you know, uh in the 2015 with Manning, you know, of course, maybe you had to change the way you played a little bit.
00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:24.000
The man couldn't feel his hands, you know, half the time, but we don't necessarily need to have that approach with what what is Bo 25, 26 years old.
00:21:24.240 --> 00:21:26.319
No, let's go and take the lead early.
00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:33.680
Well, yeah, I mean that I really want I don't know what my cats are doing.
00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:42.240
I really want um Peyton to start more aggressive, and sometimes he would, and then the offense just didn't deliver.
00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:50.319
To be fair, there are times he came out and tried to strike, and it something got dropped, something got fumbled.
00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:55.680
Well Jordan Hungry, I feel like yes.
00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:59.599
Um, you know, the the the running back.
00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:01.839
Just, you know, didn't stretch out the ball.
00:22:01.920 --> 00:22:04.079
You know, sometimes I think he tried.
00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:13.440
I just, you know, so yeah, I'm I'm very curious to see, you know, the what eight scripted plays that that Webb starts the season with.
00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:14.079
Yes.
00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:14.880
Yep.
00:22:15.359 --> 00:22:22.640
Um, one thing about this offense I'm hoping for, Davis Webb, is that we don't wait until the fourth quarter to score 33 points.
00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:26.720
I mean, we can still score 33 points in the fourth quarter.
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:31.359
But you know, if we score 33 points up to the fourth quarter, that's okay too.
00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:31.839
Yes.
00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:33.599
We will win if we do that.
00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:34.480
Yeah.
00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.200
Like I'm fine.
00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:41.200
We can still score in the please still score in the fourth quarter.
00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.519
Don't flip it where we go to a hot start and can't keep it.
00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:46.640
Right.
00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:47.839
That's your mind.
00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:55.920
You seeing that reminds me of a team that did that.
00:22:56.000 --> 00:23:02.640
They go up to a hot start, and then most of the time, I think it was um, so I remember the 2013 season for the Broncos.
00:23:02.880 --> 00:23:04.319
Oh, the Ravens do it all the time.
00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.480
Yeah, and the Ravens do it all the time too.
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:10.480
Where Denver would score all these points, but sometimes the defense wouldn't hold.
00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:22.640
So a four well, let's say a 40 to nothing score could be end up being like 40 to 24, and you're like, oh, like that was like it was actually not as close as it was.
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:27.279
Our defense just allowed 24 points in the last 10 minutes of the game.
00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:38.160
Well, I mean, because I had that argument a lot where you know, when we were losing the by those one-score teams, sometimes the defense just needs to hold those one-score games.
00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:40.160
It's only nine o'clock where I am.
00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.160
I'm sorry, I keep messing my way up.
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:50.960
Um, so yeah, I mean, the deep the the defense still needs to hold.
00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:58.079
And um, defense bringing a lot of players back will hopefully help.
00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:01.279
But I know we did, I'm just making if we did do it.
00:24:01.519 --> 00:24:11.359
No, actually, most of the draft was focused on offense for the most part because I mean the defense top the what type top five in the league in almost every category.
00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:15.440
So hopefully that stands pat with um.
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:24.000
So actually, I'm gonna say this because I don't think I've given him enough credit, and I I have a feeling I know what Kelly will say here.
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:26.559
Um, Vance Joseph.
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:29.279
Um, we know him from his time.
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:30.880
I see the eye roll.
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:32.079
I saw the eye roll.
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:39.519
Um he he reminds me of gosh, he's a great coordinator.
00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:43.759
He's a bad head coach, yeah, but a bad head coach.
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:52.400
Yeah, and so I think just you know, as much as I love Wade Phillips, I would walk over glass for Wade Phillips.
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:53.680
I feel the same way.
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:58.799
He's an awesome defensive coordinator, he's just not a good head coach.
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:06.000
Okay, I didn't want to compare Vance Joseph and Wade Phillips because I wasn't sure if I would trigger anything on your end.
00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:14.240
No, I like I mean, it's just um I'm I'm I'm gonna write him hard though, because we all want to, you know, oh, we have to give Vance Joseph his flowers.
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.480
He needs to repeat the success.
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:22.160
He's got the same personnel, so I don't want to hear, oh, he's working with new players.
00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:30.880
He has to repeat the success because the number one rule of football defense wins championships.
00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:31.519
Yep.
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:51.279
However, however, I got I gotta agree with people who say defenses don't usually repeat championships when the Legion of Boom fizzled out, our no-fly fizzled out.
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:56.319
The the steel curtain lasted quite a long time, but football was a different game then.
00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:01.599
So um, who is the other defense recently that had a nickname?
00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:08.960
Um Kansas City probably should have had a nickname, but they didn't.
00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:18.160
I mean, Kansas City's defense was probably, in my opinion, the the better group between the offense and the defense and their kind of Super Bowl runs.
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:22.240
Well, they're not ever gonna get any credit when you got turned in on the other side of the ball.
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:22.960
I know.
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:30.640
And Taylor Swift's fiance and uh, you know, all the white beaters they keep hiring.
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:37.599
Um so uh you know, they don't go back to back to back to back.
00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:38.240
Right.
00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:43.839
You get a couple really raw say Ray Lewis, that defense.
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:48.400
How many defenses did that how many championships did that defense win?
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:57.599
Um yeah, one is one is early years, and I think so yeah, because they were just retired after the yeah.
00:26:58.720 --> 00:26:59.680
After 2014.
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:04.880
I'm not getting off An Joseph's neck until he repeats this success.
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:06.640
Fair enough.
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:17.359
Because you can have a great one-year championship winning defense, it doesn't, you know, get immoralized until you repeat it.
00:27:19.279 --> 00:27:20.640
Absolutely.
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:34.960
One thing I kind of want to point out before we move on to the draft is looking at um, and I know this is gonna be a complete 180 from what we're talking about because we're talking defense, so that dreaded Miami game.
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:40.799
I think what needs to be studied is we can bury different huh?
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.039
Why can't we JR Smith that?
00:27:43.119 --> 00:27:46.720
I thought we JR Smith this for something we JR Smith.
00:27:49.920 --> 00:28:09.519
Well, here's the thing with it too, though, is that the reason it comes out is because there was like a conversation, I think, between Schefter and uh Sean Payton, and it's something that needs to be studied that the both the Dolphins and the Broncos went in completely different directions that we didn't expect since that game.
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.079
That has a lot to do with coaching.
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:14.799
Yes.
00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:24.240
Now look, I get again, Mike McDaniels is personable, and when he comes and he talks to the press, he seems like a likable guy.
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:26.480
Sean Payton does not.
00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:32.640
Sean Payton seems like you know, my type of NFL coach where but I gotta talk to these reporters.
00:28:32.799 --> 00:28:34.480
Y'all don't know, y'all don't know ball.
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.960
You've watched enough football, you've heard some announcers say some shit, so you think you have intelligent questions, I got a fucking job to do.
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:42.480
Leave me alone.
00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:43.440
Right?
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:46.480
And that that I that's who I like my head coach to be.
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:57.599
McDaniels seems like, oh, these are my friends, this is my buddy, I got jokes with them, you know, let me pop bottles with them, you know, especially being in Miami.
00:28:57.839 --> 00:29:04.400
But Mike McDaniels coaching reminds me a lot of Josh McDaniel's coaching.
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:05.839
Interesting.
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:17.039
Where when it's good, they're funny, they're nice, and when it's bad, you kind of get this pouty, stolen person who just doesn't know what to do.
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:23.359
And who yells and who yells at your players for three and then starts to spiral.
00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:32.319
And so, you know, we've all seen Josh McDaniels tuck tail and go back where you know he's always gonna have a home, right?
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:39.119
And McDaniel and and then the and Mike McDaniels is really freaking struggling with what to do, right?
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:40.400
Because he doesn't know what to do.
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:47.839
He he went all in on Tua and and he should have held some back.
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.400
He should have kept something close to his best, and he didn't, and now he's just kind of stuck.
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:59.680
And you know, it's good it's in Miami because Miami's not football.
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:20.799
Yeah, right, you know, it's not Boston, it's not uh Denver, it's not New York, it's not, you know, there's so much other shit to do in in Miami that's not you know, that's a lot you know, they ain't got shit else to do when they're stuck in the snow in the dark, they watch football, so um, which is great, those are my type of people.
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:23.599
Um don't get me wrong.
00:30:23.920 --> 00:30:25.519
I appre football.
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:30.240
So um he's kind of stuck.
00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:42.559
And so that's what you know, when he when it's good, when his team can put up 70, he knows what to do, he knows what to say because it's fun and it's games and it's high fives.
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:50.799
Struggling, and you know, quarterbacks with concussions, he's kind of spiraled out and he doesn't know how to write the shit.
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:58.160
Peyton took that and said, Okay, I know what the fuck I need to do.
00:30:58.240 --> 00:30:58.960
Watch this.
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:07.920
And it took a while because you got to get out of the storm and you got to get past the waves, and you know, you're still taking salt water saltwater to the face.
00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:10.319
Well, you cut the bad apples right after that.
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:16.480
I mean, uh remember Randy Gregory and Frank Clark, and you just got those guys out of there, yeah.
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:18.319
Right after that, right?
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.240
Daniels hasn't done anything to write his shit, really.
00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:31.039
And now we're not seeing happy go lucky Mike McDaniels, who people want to dress up for for Halloween.
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:33.440
We're seeing the guy that's like, what?
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:37.039
Yeah, you gotta score more points to win.
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:38.400
Well, no shit, Charlotte.
00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.480
How how are you gonna do that?
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:42.400
Like, you know.
00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:46.559
So I mean that that that really comes down to coaching.
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:55.680
That really comes down to uh, you know, you gotta go back into the face of the storm and and fix it.
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:02.240
And and I think McDaniel just kind of said, Oh, well, you know, there's an island over there we can shipwreck.
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:02.960
Yeah.
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:08.319
Well, now we'll get to see what he does with uh Justin Herbert in LA.
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:12.960
We'll see.
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.960
It's kind of ironic because you pass on Justin Herbert, right?
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:17.519
For Tua.
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.200
Um yeah, I think he yeah, I think he did.
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:23.839
Um yeah, I think he did.
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.240
Because I think Tua went first and then Herbert.
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:33.680
And then everyone's like Dolphins made an amazing decision.
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:35.519
No.
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:42.400
Well, I mean, and I as fans, we have convinced ourselves of many different things.
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:43.119
Right?
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:52.240
We have you know uh um some people were very convinced Brock was the person, Brock was the guy.
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:59.039
He he would have been maybe if he didn't go to Houston.
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:00.559
The vibes were good.
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:06.240
I nah, you know, but you know, in the end, no.
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:07.759
No, he was bad.
00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.240
Um his second stint was horrible.
00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:14.240
Yeah, to uh, you know, it it kind of the same thing.
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.680
Every, you know, everyone convinced themselves he could do it.
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:22.880
Yeah, you know, we we convinced ourselves for a while.
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:30.799
Um Mike McDaniels is fine, that's good, that's great, it's fine, it's fine, and it wasn't, you know.
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:36.720
Um we we were coming I convinced myself Russ Wilson would would turn the ship.
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.279
That's it, that's the call, that's the play.
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.359
It wasn't it, you know, you convince yourself of a lot of things.
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:48.079
Man, I thought we were gonna win multiple Super Bowls with Russell Wilson when he first got traded here.
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:54.079
Yeah, so like I said, it's not, you know, this is this is one of the reasons I don't talk a lot about the draft.
00:33:54.160 --> 00:34:03.359
I don't I don't do mock drafts, I don't do uh a whole bunch of predictions because football on paper is very easy.
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:07.359
Yep, absolutely, yeah.
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:08.800
Everyone does a bracket.
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.519
Oh, I know what to pick on my bracket, and what always happens.
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:14.719
Mm-hmm.
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:16.639
There's no brackets, yeah.
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.039
You know, they have to play the game.
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.159
So, you know, Sean Payton is all in.
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:25.679
These are, you know, I said last season, this is my Super Bowl winning team.
00:34:25.760 --> 00:34:26.880
I can do it with this team.
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.320
He's kind of pretty he's stuck by him, he's still all in on him.
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:36.480
He made some moves, he made some adjustments, but nothing, he didn't overhaul the whole thing.
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:43.599
He still thinks he has he has the answer, you know, and so that's what you see.
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:49.840
So, you know what what were we gonna improve other than a receiver?
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:54.719
I mean, I maybe would have gone for a running back too, but yeah.
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:57.119
How do y'all feel about linebacker?
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:03.599
That's a kind of a polarizing question with the fan base.
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:15.199
Yeah, it is very I'm just really surprised that I mean looking at the draft, we only drafted one inside linebacker, yeah.
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:28.320
And so, and then we just got rid of, or we didn't get rid of, we released Drake Greenlaw, and so now we're gonna be rolling with Alex Singleton and Justin Sernade.
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:34.000
Um Alex Singleton, great when it comes to tackling and playing the run game.
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:39.039
Sometimes, sometimes passing game, not so great.
00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:46.800
And with Sernod, I haven't seen enough of him to really get an opinion per se.
00:35:47.440 --> 00:36:01.119
But I'm kind of hoping that maybe somewhere down the line, maybe training camp wise, we look at that position and we're like, okay, maybe we need a little bit more help there, or who knows, maybe our Mr.
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.119
Irrelevant will surprise us.
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:04.800
That'd be amazing.
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:06.320
That'd be amazing.
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:15.199
Um, yeah, our defense is a strong unit, so yeah, I wouldn't overhaul it per se.
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.840
I can see why they didn't go the overall route.
00:36:18.159 --> 00:36:26.639
Um, but yeah, our weaknesses are our weaknesses, and this is why I say I'm I'm not taking my foot off of Vance's neck.
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:27.519
Is it no?
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:29.360
You've got to show me now.
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:40.480
You have the success, you have this, you have to repeat it with this personnel because you didn't go fight and go, This is what I need, this is what I need, this is what my system needs, this is what I need.
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:43.760
So you did the same thing Peyton did.
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:50.079
You you're standing by your your your all in on this personnel, and this is what I can do, and I can repeat it.
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.559
I need to see it repeated before I go.
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:56.960
I yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:36:57.920 --> 00:36:59.920
Because you know, really it's up and down.
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:04.400
You know, that that's Joseph's defense sometimes that couldn't stand up and make the stop we needed.
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.599
Oh, kind of tails off towards the end of the season.
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:11.840
That's the one thing that Vance has no excuses.
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:17.119
Like you said, after bringing everybody back this year, you can't tail off towards the end of the year.
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:23.920
Uh, I know Buffalo had like the number one offense in the NFL, but a defense should slow them down.
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.559
And thank God we had those turnovers, right?
00:37:26.800 --> 00:37:35.679
But we we won a game where we didn't force a punt the entire the entire game, and that that needs to change.
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:38.639
Uh so and we need way more turnovers.
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:42.400
Yes, yes, and yeah, Riley's got to catch the biggest.
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:52.000
Yeah, you you you gotta get the ball back into Bo's hands and and keep those offenses in the in the AFC the buck off the field.
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:54.000
They can't score if they're not on the field.
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:57.840
Absolutely.
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:06.159
Um, speaking of the draft, since David brought it up, um it's time that we can um let's move right along to our draft.
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:10.400
Um, a little bit of history was made for the Broncos for this draft.
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:18.480
Um, for the first time since 1995, the Broncos did not have a pick in the first or the second round.
00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:24.960
Um when they went in 1995, they actually went up until the fourth round before they made a pick.
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:33.519
But that year they did draft a pretty solid running back who is in the hall of fame, so I guess it kind of worked out a little bit.
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:36.239
How about that?
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:41.199
So are you saying Jonah Coleman is our next Hall of Fame running back?
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:42.559
Wouldn't that be nice?
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:43.760
That would be very nice.
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:44.239
I know.
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:45.760
Is he out of Georgia?
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:50.639
Um, he's out of Washington, if that helps.
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.400
Uh that's not Georgia.
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:57.760
Uh pretty bad at geography, but uh I know, I'm really bad.
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:15.199
Um, but for our first pick, which didn't happen until the third round, we actually would have had a second round, but I think we I actually remember I had like an Ed Oliver kind of like moment there because there was a guy, I can't remember his name, and but we were coming up and we were gonna draft.
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.559
I think that probably wouldn't have the way we could have gone.
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:22.960
But I think it was Buffalo that ended up drafting not Buffalo, I'm sorry.
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:29.119
There was a team that drafted him before we could get to him, so we traded back with Buffalo, I think is what I'm thinking about.
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:32.320
Oh who did you think that was?
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.400
Or like they were going after.
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:45.840
I'm trying, I'm actually look, I'm trying to remember, but while I'm looking that up, um David, can you tell us a little bit about our first pick, Tyler Onyedum?
00:39:46.239 --> 00:39:48.559
O Yedum, defensive tackle from Tech St.
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:48.800
M.
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.159
Because when I heard that name, I was like, okay, we got a defensive tackle.
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:55.119
That helps because we did lose John Franklin Myers.
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:55.440
Yeah.
00:39:55.679 --> 00:40:04.239
Um, and I mean we saw Malcolm Roach, but defensive tackle was probably not the first thing I was thinking of when we would make our first pick.
00:40:04.480 --> 00:40:20.239
Yeah, I was hoping we would go like tight end or you know, something on offense type of thing, but I you know, I'll never fault teams for drafting offensive and defensive linemen with their first picks.
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:25.760
So uh that's how you build you know stability for the long term.
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.519
So he's a he's a real athletic defensive tackle.
00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:31.440
Definitely can kind of play that.
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:33.519
Uh John Franklin Myers' role.
00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:35.840
I don't know how much we'll see from him this year.
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.639
I mean, you know, we drafted Savion Jones last year.
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:42.239
I think I think a lot of people are kind of sleeping on Malcolm Roach.
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:49.360
If I had to like bet on it right now, I think he's gonna be uh the guy starting in place of JFM.
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:56.480
And I thought Roach took a really nice step last season and shows some more pass rush chops than what he had done previously.
00:40:56.639 --> 00:41:00.960
Uh, but yeah, oh Yedem's a fun, he he's a fun defensive tackle.
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:13.119
Again, it's not never gonna be sexy when you draft like a defensive tackle from Texas AM with your first pick in like the third round, but and like you know, Cage Casey, an offensive lineman.
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:22.639
Uh, you know, it's it's never like star-studded, but I think like those two specific picks are ones that I can really get behind.
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:28.480
Guys, we hadn't drafted an offensive tackle, and I don't know if Casey will play tackle or guard.
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:33.840
We haven't drafted an offensive tackle since Garrett Bowles, and that's bad process.
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:37.599
We've gotten away with it, we've gotten lucky.
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.880
Um, so I I was real happy that we we spent some capital up front.
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:46.320
Um, but I don't know how much they'll play this year, to be honest.
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:47.199
What do you guys think?
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:57.679
Um well I'll tell before I for before I forget, um, it was Josiah Trotter I was thinking of that we were gonna draft the linebacker.
00:41:58.079 --> 00:42:01.280
Tampa Bay took him like 10 picks before we could pick them.
00:42:01.519 --> 00:42:26.159
So um so Kate, I don't think Cage Casey, I think Cage Casey is gonna be more of a player that's gonna probably take over in like his at the earliest, maybe the second year, because I know next year uh I want to say it's Ben Powers and Ben Powers' contract, I think is gonna be up real soon.
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:28.960
And um, there's also Mike McGlinchie, too.
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:35.840
I mean, I know he was drafted as a tackle, but there was a lot of like speculation that he could play like on the inside at guard.
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:40.880
So when they said that, I'm like, I know exactly where they're thinking of looking, right at that left guard spot.
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:42.559
Yeah, yeah.
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:48.000
I find it interesting they announced him as a guard, so that would be my hunch too.
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:55.119
Uh but yeah, maybe Paucho will be that right tackle after McGlinchy, but yeah, that's down the future quite a bit.
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:56.800
Oh, absolutely.
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:58.880
Um, one one player.
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.039
Well, I have two players I was actually excited about.
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:12.159
Um, after Cage Casey, although we had to wait another 59 picks before we got him, we traded up to get Justin Jolly, which I'm like, ooh, that's gonna be a fun name to say.
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.159
Um Christmas.
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:15.519
Yep, Christmas.
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:24.239
And we have we drafted a tight end, which I was like, at this point, I'm like, with all the tight ends that were like being drafted, I'm like, are we ever gonna draft this guy?
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.960
Are we ever gonna draft a tight end to help out Bo Nicks?
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:32.400
Um, but Justin Jolly, like, I'm actually kind of excited for him.
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.199
Yeah, and he doesn't drop the ball either.
00:43:35.360 --> 00:43:50.800
Like, he had a very low drop percentage in college, and I like Evan Ingram, but that was like the thing I think that kind of kept him from being involved more in the offense was he had like one of the most drops for like all tight ends last year.
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.039
So I like Jolie uh a lot.
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:58.719
I was surprised he fell all the way to the fifth round, but I I love the fact that we went up and got him.
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.239
Um This was a good tight end class, I think.
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:08.079
And it pained me that we didn't really draft a tight end last year except Caleb Lohner.
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:10.239
And maybe he'll be something this year.
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.400
You know, we'll we'll have to see.
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:23.840
Uh, but yeah, I think Jolie, I think he's somebody that will be involved in this offense in some capacity this year, and uh he can be a security blanket for Bo.
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:32.639
I I like his game a lot, plus again the nickname Big Christmas in Denver, I think that's just perfect.
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:49.119
Well, he's gonna have to fight with um uh I can't I think he's a Cleveland Guardian uh baseball player, but I know he um his last name's Noel, but I know he was dubbed Big Christmas in like a playoff game, so Jolly might have to compete with that one.
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:50.880
Oh, yeah, we'll have to see.
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.559
Well, yeah, he's gotta catch some touchdowns then to prove it.
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.079
Yep, absolutely.
00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:02.960
Could you imagine Justin Jolly on the team catching a pass against the Buffalo Bills on Christmas?
00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:06.719
See, oh my god, yes, we play on Christmas.
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.280
I'm excited for that game so much.
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:12.000
Um, and I like that it's on a Friday.
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:19.599
I feel like we don't normally we've seen now on Thursday nights, we just don't play good, especially with Sean Payton.
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.239
We suck on Thursdays, but we don't know yet if we suck on Fridays yet.
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:27.679
So we got two Friday games, a Black Friday and Christmas.
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:30.559
We'll figure out if that extra day makes a difference.
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.239
Absolutely.
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:36.000
Um, and then we got Miles Scott, which is a safety.
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.760
Um, I figure he's probably more special teams for the time being.
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:43.119
Yeah, and then Dallin Bentley, tight end from Utah.
00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:45.599
So we double dipped on tight end in this draft.
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.800
So that was actually I'm I'm okay with that.
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:54.400
Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of like bringing back Adam Troutman, yeah.
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.719
So maybe Bentley can kind of push him.
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:04.159
I think Troutman's spot on the roster is pretty safe, even if these young tight ends look good.
00:46:04.400 --> 00:46:12.880
But at least you got some guys that you can now develop behind him to where maybe you're not tied to him throughout the life of his contract.
00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:23.599
Absolutely, and then I do remember hearing, I think it was for rookie minicamp that um, or maybe it wasn't rookie minicamp next yeah, um, that um Caleb Blonner has been showing some promise.
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:26.559
Dude, maybe he can be our next Julius Thomas, right?
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:30.159
It took him a little bit to get going, you know, being a basketball player.
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:40.400
So if he can just be even half of what Julius Thomas was for us, um, you know, back with Manning, I I think we got a good tight end.
00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.119
But that that's probably my big hot take.
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:49.119
I always have like some random player that's kind of more seen as like a scrub that I'm just like all in on.
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:54.000
Like I really wanted to see AT Perry play last year, never active at all.
00:46:54.239 --> 00:46:54.639
Yep.
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.639
Um, but I was like, he's six five, you can get downfield.
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:04.159
I think Caleb Werner is gonna be my AT Perry this year, where I just want to see what he can do.
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:05.280
He's six seven.
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.280
Six seven, yep.
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:16.239
I uh uh being a Kel so Kelly and I are teachers, and I automatically, when you said six seven, thought about oh no, you guys are triggered by that.
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:18.960
I didn't mean to trauma traumatize though.
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.400
I was like, oh gosh, here we go again.
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.960
I can we we can't escape it, apparently.
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:26.000
We can never escape it.
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:27.119
Oh, I did.
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:29.679
You you shut that down.
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:36.719
If Miss Kern hears you say six seven, you're gonna miss six seven minutes of recess.
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:39.519
That's actually pretty cool.
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:54.559
Now they're scared to count because they go one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, yes, keep going eight, nine, ten.
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:58.079
Oh boy.
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:00.480
Um, and then right back.
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:09.199
They take a big break between that six, one, two, three, seven, eight, nine.
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.480
Um, with our last pick, um, Mr.
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:17.519
Irrelevant, we got Red Murdoch.
00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.840
Um, which, if you were on the Twitter machine, Mario was very high on him.
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:22.480
Yeah.
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:26.079
Um Red Murdoch's a beast, man.
00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:28.880
Uh you guys probably know the stat by now.
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.719
Most force uh fumbles in NCAA history.
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:33.840
I know.
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:35.039
He's got that.
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:41.360
It's way harder than like a peanut Tillman punch because he's a linebacker, but I'm pumped to see what he can do.
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:45.039
And with all these teams, you know, you hear about it a lot now.
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:52.880
Um, San Francisco, Seattle, LA, they're doing a lot of these sets where they have three tight ends in the game.
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.199
And uh, you're gonna need some guys who can really thump, you know.
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:04.159
You need some bigger linebackers again, and uh yeah, I think uh you know, Red Murdoch, he's kind of a throwback to that.
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:10.800
And I'm excited to see what he can do, especially on those short, you know, third and shorts and goal lines.
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:16.400
And I I hope I hope he makes the team, and I hope we get to see him a little bit.
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:17.679
Absolutely.
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:27.039
Uh, a little fun stat that I found um interesting enough for the world of TikTok, and I want to say either I shared it with Kelly or Kelly shared it with me.
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:36.960
So Red Murdoch, his real name is Khalil, and as you mentioned, um, he had the most forced fumbles in um NCL white history.
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:42.079
The record that he broke um was so he had 17 force fumbles.
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:47.280
The record he broke was 16, and you know who had that um stat?
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:50.239
Khalil Mack.
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:52.239
Yeah, there you go.
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.679
And and guess where Khalil Mack played football?
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:57.199
Buffalo.
00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:59.760
Buffalo from the same spot.
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:01.199
They coach it there.
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:02.079
Yep.
00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:09.840
So I'm I'm really I think that's probably the one pick I'm really excited to see is Red Murdoch.
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.320
I was gonna go crazy if we didn't draft a linebacker.
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:16.000
Like oh yeah, I I wanted us to sign another line.
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:19.920
I was you know, I was bummed the whole Dre Greenlaw thing didn't work out, you know.
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:29.199
Yeah, maybe just maybe it's true he just wasn't good fit, but um yeah, we we sort of like offensive line.
00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:35.599
It's like, man, it would be nice to draft some you know, guys that are not you know in the seventh round, but I'll take this.
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.559
I'll take this seventh round linebacker, Red Murdoch.
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:43.519
That's how bad I want us to to develop some guys behind singleton and strength.
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.280
So man, we'll see what happens.
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:50.719
You know, the Buffalo captain, um Matt Milano, he's still a free agent.
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:54.559
So I know Todd, you were talking about maybe we bring in another veteran at some point.
00:50:54.719 --> 00:51:11.519
He's a guy that I would love the Broncos to bring in because if we got an injury there in a Super Bowl year, I don't know how wise it is to be dependent on maybe a rookie like Red Murdoch or you know, Jordan Turner, some of those other guys we got, like they're fine, but they're not like a Matt Milano.
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:17.679
We'll have to see exactly, and I wouldn't mind how depth matters.
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:25.679
I mean, so that's interesting because the podcast episode we've talked about patience, and now we're talking about depth.
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:28.480
So perfect, we got it covered.
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:29.360
Yep.
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:40.079
Um, so usually they so I was looking at some of the grades they gave our drafts, um, which are some were a little surprising.
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:42.079
So let's go around the horn.
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.280
And what grade would you give this Broncos draft class?
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:55.760
Ooh, I forget what I gave it, but I'll I'll give it a B because we uh we addressed some of our needs.
00:51:56.239 --> 00:52:01.440
We went with offensive and defensive line, which is important for the future.
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:07.679
And Jonah Coleman was a guy that I really wanted the Broncos to get my whole like the whole draft process.
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.079
I just wanted him to be a Broncos so bad.
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:14.880
So Jonah Coleman, I think he's perfect for this backfield.
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.679
Um, you know, draft grades.
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.239
They some people say they're silly to see before they play, whatever.
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.679
I still love giving grades, I still think it's fine.
00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:27.360
I'll give them a B.
00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:34.079
And um if they end up being even better than that, I'll figure out a way to say I gave them an A.
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.480
Well, as teachers, we have to give grades all the time.
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.199
So see, you guys are used to it, yeah.
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:44.079
Yeah, but yeah, I would I I would agree with you.
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:45.599
I'd give this class a B.
00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:53.599
Yeah, I mean, I don't get to give letter grades, I give a plus, a check, or a minus.
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:54.800
I'd give it a check.
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:56.880
Um okay, that's a good way.
00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:57.679
I like that.
00:52:57.760 --> 00:52:58.639
It's fine, you know.
00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:00.960
You know, yeah, it's fine, it's getting there.
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:05.840
Um, you know, because you know, I I've said it 900 million times.
00:53:06.159 --> 00:53:12.480
I have been wrong trying to look at college players and deciding if they will fit in the NFL.
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:19.840
Um G and I thought would be, you know, just bust out, change the game, never made a roster.
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:23.920
Ones I thought would suck, change the game.
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:27.679
So I can't evaluate talent apparently.
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:31.119
And I think the Broncos in in history have done, you know, a pretty good job.
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:33.679
Yeah, you know, they they fail sometimes, they win sometimes.
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:34.880
So I don't know what they're looking at.
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:43.199
I'm not gonna criticize people that go watch the the 900 college football games and and find these people that they have to find.
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:51.760
Um, you know, so yeah, I'm one, you know, until we see how it pans out, it you know, it's not really fair.
00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:54.960
And then, you know, we talk, you know, I talk about it a lot.
00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:01.360
You can be a great player, but if you go to a bad situation, it's almost unfair.
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:03.360
Yes, right, right.
00:54:03.679 --> 00:54:12.480
Like, um I don't know that the the quarterback for the Raiders will have a great career because he went to the Raiders.
00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:18.719
Yeah, you know, now the Raiders aren't on the come up, they're not just missing a piece.
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:21.840
The Raiders are in a sorry state, and that's where he went.
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:23.280
And you know, I feel that way.
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:28.719
I like I feel like Tessa Birdie maybe would have been a much better quarterback if he hadn't gone to Tampa Bay.
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:35.360
Um Vince Young, you know, kind of got trapped where he was and couldn't succeed.
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:50.079
So it doesn't make them bad players, but you know, it just matters if you get into that locker room, if you've got veterans that mentor you, if you've got coaches that know how to coach you, if you can, if you fit in that scheme, you have great players that are just in the wrong scheme.
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:54.800
They can't do what the coach is asking them to do because that's not where they play.
00:54:55.039 --> 00:55:03.599
So, you know, that's just not how they play football, and they've got that muscle memory of you know, three years at college that no, this is where I go, this is what I do.
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:11.440
So, you know, um, you know, I'm all in on the draft day question, you know, but did he go to the birthday party?
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:14.000
Yeah, yep, yeah.
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:16.320
Did they all go to the birthday party?
00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:17.519
That's just what I need to know.
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:23.360
That's that's that's like so you know, and you have people like Judy who couldn't adjust.
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.360
No, you know, and you know, I say this all the time, you know.
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:36.719
Really, if I did a doctorate, that's what I would do it on, is these players that come out of places like Bama and LSU and just don't lose for four years.
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:41.760
And then when they go somewhere and they're not winning, do they adjust?
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:45.360
And some people do, and some like Jerry Judy, do not.
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:50.000
They become the big spoil babies that you know being an athlete makes them.
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:55.679
So, you know, well, you know, we'll have to see.
00:55:55.760 --> 00:56:00.239
So, you know, you you just kind of gotta wait to see.
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:01.440
But I would give it a check.
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:16.079
I think you know, they check, they checked some boxes, they did some things, you know, and you know, other than I mean, I don't think we've made the news on draft day since freaking Lway.
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:31.840
Like Denver just always kind of flies under the radar and we do what we do, and and we still put you know, other than you know after Super Bowl 50, you know, we do we put pretty good teams on the field, even if they haven't been championship-winning teams.
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:35.119
We put solid teams on the field throughout history.
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:36.079
That's right.
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.039
Yep, couldn't agree more.
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:48.639
Um, all right, so I think that's although I would like clips of the rookie, you know, the rookies trying to play in in the thin air for the first week.
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:50.400
That would be great.
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:57.599
So that's oh, which we'll actually talk about because the first thing that comes to Denver will be Jacksonville.
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:01.519
So I'll have to see what their who their rookies are and go from there.
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:03.119
Yeah.
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:07.920
Which speaking of which, um I mean our rookies, I mean like from camp.
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:09.280
Oh, your uh our rookie.
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:16.320
The first time they take off down the field and they get like 20 yards in and are like, what's happening to my legs?
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:26.239
I mean ours, not I know what happens when teams come to mile high, they get really tired in that fourth quarter.
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:28.719
Yep, very true.
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:35.280
Um, so the schedule came out on Thursday, and uh it's very interesting.
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:40.320
So I know David, you were talking a bit about that week one matchup against Kansas City.
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:52.000
Yeah, I really think that they probably set this up because there must be something that because Mahomes is gonna be coming back from an ACL injury, yeah.
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:53.599
I think he tore something else too.
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:59.440
So we're not even sure if yeah, we're not even sure if he's gonna come be back for this game.
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:05.519
But I think the whoever put the schedule together has like all the faith that Mahomes is gonna be back week one.
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.719
So I think that's probably the biggest reason they did it.
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:13.280
But it might blow up in their face if Mahomes isn't ready by week one.
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:27.360
I can't believe like you know, Mahomes is their golden boy to put him up against the best pass rush in the NFL, week one, again, in the fact that okay, it's in Arrowhead, whatever.
00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.719
Thank God we don't have to face him in December in Arrowhead.
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:32.800
We're getting this out of the way the first week.
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:43.360
Like again, like I know a lot of people think like don't really like the first part of the schedule, you know, six playoff teams in six weeks.
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:45.360
Yeah, it's a gauntlet, whatever.
00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:57.039
But I don't know, like when you bring back everybody, you should be able to hit the ground running a little bit faster than maybe what we've done in the past.
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:03.039
And um I'd rather face those teams, hopefully, healthier.
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:06.320
And you should be healthier at the beginning of the season.
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:07.599
So we'll see what happens.
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:11.119
But man, I I love that we get Kansas City on Monday night.
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:21.360
Just like with the Broncos beating the Bills in the playoffs, man, the the rest of the NFL won't be able to handle when we beat the Chiefs.
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:22.480
That's how I feel about it.
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:23.840
They're not gonna know what to do.
00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:24.559
Well, it depends.
00:59:24.639 --> 00:59:27.679
If Mahomes isn't back, then it gets to be their excuse.
00:59:28.159 --> 00:59:29.599
Oh, yeah, you're right.
00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:31.360
I'm hoping he plays.
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:32.639
This is twofold.
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:38.960
This is gonna be Mahomes' homecoming, and oh, those Broncos that think they're all shit are gonna lose.
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:45.039
Or if Mahomes doesn't come back, then well, you know, it's a Mahomeless Kansas City.
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:46.239
Why are you so happy?
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:51.119
Or if Mahomes is back but doesn't play well, well, it was his first game after injury.
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:53.679
See, they've set him up so they win either way.
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:58.800
Yeah, it's pretty much win-win and the golden boy has a win-win-win situation.
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:08.559
He's not back, he's back and wins, or he backs and loses, and they've got the built-in, you know, excuse that oh, they gave him a division rival on Monday night right away.
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:14.000
So the good news is Denver is good enough for getting primetime games early in the season.
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:15.360
Yeah, yeah.
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.079
So let's focus on that.
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:30.000
And one, I really think this first this first set sets, you know, it'll set the tone because either then the rest of the season we're chasing KC or KC's chasing us.
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:31.119
Exactly.
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:31.760
That's it.
01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:36.800
This game that the the Monday night game decides the season how the season is gonna shake out.
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:38.480
Absolutely.
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:40.960
Who you know, who's gonna win the West.
01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:44.239
And I I just really don't believe the Chargers are gonna come out of nowhere.
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:46.000
Chargers are gonna charge.
01:00:46.159 --> 01:00:47.119
We know how it is.
01:00:47.760 --> 01:01:14.719
So um that's just you know, um, but you know, yeah, you know, it's the I don't know, 30th year in a row that I'm gonna say that, you know, Pat Bowland slept with somebody's wife and they still just fucking hate the Broncos and they make the schedule because oh ah it's a ridiculous start to the season.
01:01:14.960 --> 01:01:20.559
Um, but the eight games following that look kind of suspiciously easy.
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:24.960
See, that's even if we did a slow start to the season, god, we could finish strong.
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:27.920
But I don't know because I don't know how morale goes.
01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:37.920
So, you know, this goes back to can we go three and three in the first six and then just come out and beat everybody into the ground, or will we go three and three and be in our heads?
01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:44.559
So, you know, it it or we could come out be six and oh and be like we're calling.
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:48.559
But you're right.
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:53.280
Uh all you need to do is go three and three, and I think you're in a really good spot the rest of the way.
01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.880
And yes, you know, the NFL changes all the time.
01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:01.679
Like, not I doubt all six of those teams are gonna make the playoffs this year.
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:12.480
So yeah, it's and some of them, like, you know, it's it's a you know, the Ram game, you know, if we lose that one, let me pull it up.
01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:16.320
Um it will have little effect on our playoffs.
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:17.360
That's right.
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:30.400
Yes, you know, we have the city one that you know will will do it the most, and then um you know, the Jaguar ones, iffy, yeah, you know what I mean?
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:31.760
Maybe, maybe not.
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:37.840
It depends if you know Trevor Lawrence finally kind of had the football year we were waiting for him to have last year.
01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:38.800
Yeah, yep.
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:42.880
But again, does he repeat if it takes you that long to get there?
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:44.159
Can you repeat it?
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:45.599
Yeah, right.
01:02:46.320 --> 01:03:00.239
You know, and then um the Rams are kind of scary, the Niners are kind of iffy because when they're good, they're good, but God, they they kind of start off slow too.
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:01.280
They're made out of glass.
01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:03.199
You breathe on them wrong, they're broken.
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:14.480
Um, you know, and then we face them too, and uh because he tore his Achilles who will be out in the playoffs, George Kittle.
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:16.800
So he'll miss the first part of the season.
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:18.719
Oh, yeah, that's true.
01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:25.519
So, you know, and you know, then we got another division rival, and then you know, we got the we got the defending Super Bowl champs.
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:30.320
So, you know, and I'm not scared of Arizona, I'm sorry.
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:32.480
I don't think anyone is.
01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:35.679
Are Seattle and the Rams, are those both home games?
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:40.400
Because I think a lot of the toughest opponents the Broncos get at home, which is so nice.
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:42.320
Yeah, yeah.
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:48.400
I mean, so you know, it's our but it's our year for only eight home games, not nine.
01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:50.719
Oh yeah.
01:03:51.920 --> 01:03:59.039
Well, we got nine, I mean that's gonna trade off every year because now we have an odd number of games in the season.
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:00.719
That drives me crazy.
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:05.199
I know looking at the schedule.
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:14.000
I just want to say, looking at the schedule, I just noticed something that we have all five or all five of our NFC opponents before our buy.
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.159
I don't think I've ever seen that before.
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:25.039
Yeah, but see, and again, that leads to they do think Denver will be a threat because after the buy, it will play with the AFC seeding.
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:26.159
Yes, yep.
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:27.679
So that's what it is.
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:30.239
They want to try and knock us out early.
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:35.440
And if we make it to the buy and we're still in it, every game's gonna matter.
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:36.480
Yes, yep.
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:46.239
They they really put the pressure on, and this is you know, and of course, we were the first seed in the AFC, so I was expecting a hard schedule.
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:49.360
That's what you get when you win, you get the hard schedule.
01:04:49.599 --> 01:05:03.360
So what I need, um, so this is where Rebel, if Bo can survive this gauntlet and come out and have another great year, then yes, this is our guy, and people gotta stop talking shit because now we got to see Drake May do it.
01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:12.400
We gotta see uh, you know, how Jackson Dart rebounds, you know, because he fell apart without Scataboo.
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:13.760
Yeah.
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:24.079
And so, you know, when Scatagou comes back, you know, will he be, you know, running into the walls he was running into, or you know, maybe will he be hesitant?
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:36.559
So, you know, this, you know, that the this is the year I think finally Bo's not a rookie, and you know, he can't have a sophomore slump.
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:43.679
And you know, does he come off this injury and does he just pick up where he left off, or does he really struggle against top teams?
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:52.880
Yeah, he needs to get into rhythm, and that's gotta be Davis Webb's number one priority is just getting him into a rhythm quicker in these games.
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:59.599
Cause yeah, the the highs and lows of this offense are they were just insane.
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:04.719
They're like being at the the top of the Rocky Mountains and the bottom of them.
01:06:04.800 --> 01:06:07.360
You know, they're they're you know, they're they're here.
01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:14.559
And so, you know, if we can, if we can stay, you know, kind of here, you know, and he doesn't have to be the high high all the time.
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:25.280
He doesn't have to overcome 27 points, 33 points, 18 points, you know, and you know, can kind of you know, may yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you gotta come back.
01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:27.280
We got two scores down, you gotta come back from that.
01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:32.079
I think that's that's okay for any NFL quarterback to say, but just not constantly.
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:36.719
If we can get, I would love to get out ahead and stay ahead in some of these games.
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:37.599
Absolutely.
01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:38.559
Absolutely.
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:44.159
And that that comes on Mance Joseph also repeating his success with this defense.
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:56.559
Keep Pat Chartan, the number one corner in the league, you know, get Riley Moss better, you know, tape his hands, you know, because he's racially profiled out there.
01:06:56.800 --> 01:07:04.800
Um and uh, you know, that it's it's you know, it's it's gonna be a hard season.
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:09.519
And and again, this is just like you know, like the start of last year.
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:14.159
Um, I said, you know, this is kind of the first year we get to go in with some hope.
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:15.679
We still have hope.
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:20.960
We still get to be high on hope and go, you know, and have faith.
01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:27.039
But that first that first six games, I think I'm gonna have to deactivate Twitter.
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:31.519
Don't blame me on smart decision.
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:39.920
Because you know, that Twitter some of that Twitter fan base is just oh, it was an incomplete first pass incomplete.
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:41.199
That's it, season's over.
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.559
Uh shout out Malahai Monsters here.
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:47.840
What a cast!
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:49.199
Thanks, Mike.
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:50.400
Thanks for tuning in.
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:51.679
Thank you.
01:07:52.480 --> 01:08:00.480
Um, one thing I I will so my big thing is that I always try to look to see what games I can go go to.
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:05.360
And because I think you and I were talking about like I really want to go to that buffalo game.
01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:10.239
I was heartbroken when I found out we played them on Christmas.
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:24.000
And just like I'm gonna get to a September Lambo game some point in my life, because September is the only month I trust myself to go to Lambeau because I'm not sitting in an ice bowl.
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:26.000
Um, I'm not made for that.
01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:33.039
Uh there's not enough beer and cheese to make me made for that on this little California.
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:42.720
Look, I'm wearing a hoodie inside my house, and it's Alexa, what's the temperature outside?
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:50.720
Because it's 59 degrees outside my house, and I need a hoodie for that.
01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:56.159
So November and December in Lambo ain't for me.
01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:57.279
Right.
01:08:58.159 --> 01:09:03.279
Unless someone would like to give me a box, then I, you know, I'll go send a box for that.
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:09.600
Um, so yeah, I I I need to make a Buffalo game and you know, some sometime in my life.
01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:12.560
Yeah, yeah, it's not gonna happen on Christmas.
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:13.439
Yeah.
01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:17.760
I mean, good thing um for you is that they travel to San Francisco.
01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:19.199
I can't wait.
01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:20.800
I can't wait.
01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:23.680
Um, let's see, San Francisco.
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:32.720
Um, the close well, uh Pittsburgh would be an option, but that's a Black Friday, and I know Black Friday is an absolute no-go in my family, no matter what it is.
01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:36.800
Um not because of shopping, but because we do other things.
01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:45.039
Um am I willing to bear the December cold to go to um MetLife Stadium?
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:46.239
I'm not sure.
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:48.720
That is to be determined.
01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:54.000
Um I thought about like, oh, let's go to Denver.
01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:58.399
I want to go to Denver for the Miami game because I want to see us get that revenge game back.
01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.640
Oh, that's like the revenge game for me.
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:02.960
I don't want it to be a revenge game though.
01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:04.800
I just want it to I wanted J.R.
01:10:04.960 --> 01:10:05.439
Smith.
01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:07.199
It happened, whatever.
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:08.720
We we've moved on.
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:14.720
I don't want it to be a revenge game, I don't want it to keep being brought at like it's gone.
01:10:16.399 --> 01:10:18.319
We've moved on, we've gotten better.
01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:20.720
Okay, we took our licks, it's over.
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.960
Putting in my notes, never discuss that game again.
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:27.520
But it's I mean, that's the we Jr.
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:29.439
Smith it for someone who J.R.
01:10:29.520 --> 01:10:32.000
Smith it, you you are not Jr.
01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:33.680
Smith, you are not holding up the J.R.
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:34.960
Smith part of our market.
01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:35.439
I know.
01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:44.319
Um David, do you get that reference, or are you like, why should you keep talking about J.R.
01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:44.800
Smith?
01:10:44.960 --> 01:10:45.760
I love J.R.
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.079
Smith, so I'm wondering what it means.
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:57.439
Okay, so he was asked a couple years ago if he ever thought about his mess up of like inbounding the ball.
01:10:57.680 --> 01:10:58.880
Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.920
Um, because he didn't realize they were tied.
01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:02.960
No, he's too high.
01:11:03.199 --> 01:11:04.399
Like, I even have a sticker.
01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:09.199
Yeah, I found a sticker of like his his his looks high as fuck face.
01:11:09.279 --> 01:11:11.359
I'm not accusing him being high, but he looks high as hell.
01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:13.680
He was what do you mean you're high?
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:17.600
Yeah, he was still um, and he was asked, Do you ever think about that?
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:19.680
He said, Nah, I don't think about it at all.
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:22.079
It's done, it's gone.
01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:24.239
Why would I dwell on it?
01:11:24.399 --> 01:11:25.680
Like it's done.
01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:29.359
So when Ty and I JR Smith something, it's supposed to be done.
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.520
We're not supposed to think about it anymore.
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:33.840
And he keeps talking about it.
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:35.680
Oh, okay.
01:11:37.039 --> 01:11:44.960
I just thought it was like because when I watched the Nuggets when he was on the team, I would say, Man, he just got J.R.
01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:46.079
Smith itis, man.
01:11:46.159 --> 01:11:48.319
Like he just shoot it and did not care.
01:11:48.479 --> 01:11:55.119
He didn't care if he was like oh for 10 or you know, if he made every shot, you know, he's just shooting that thing, and it's just whatever.
01:11:55.359 --> 01:12:02.800
No, I'm a big, I'm a big Warriors fan, so that moment live, you know, I love that he completely messed that and LeBron's face.
01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:05.520
The meme they made of LeBron's face.
01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:07.279
Forever in meme history.
01:12:07.600 --> 01:12:08.079
Yeah.
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:16.000
So I love that moment as a Warriors fan, but then you know, a couple years ago when they asked him, you know, do you ever think about that?
01:12:16.159 --> 01:12:17.760
He's like, no, I can't change it.
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:19.600
What am I gonna what am I gonna think about?
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:21.840
I can't change the Miami game.
01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:24.000
No one can change it, it happened.
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:36.880
But again, I feel like the Broncos went back into the storm, got the ship right, Miami hasn't, but it's not, it's done.
01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:42.640
We we made it had us get better, and that that that's all we need to know.
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:44.239
Absolutely.
01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:51.119
All right, we don't need to think about it anymore.
01:12:53.039 --> 01:12:53.680
I like that.
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:58.800
Um, so talking about the schedule, since I'm gonna actually forget about it now.
01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:07.520
Um, David, looking at this schedule, what are you and Kelly and I normally do our game by game prediction during training?
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.119
September, yeah, during training camp.
01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:10.159
Oh, okay, cool.
01:13:10.479 --> 01:13:16.399
So what are your thoughts on how this team's gonna do as it as it stands right now?
01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:20.880
Uh, you know, I'm someone who's like kind of superstitious.
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:26.479
So last year I thought I was going out on a limb with 13 and 4.
01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:32.000
I thought that that was like definitely putting the the orange colored glasses on.
01:13:32.239 --> 01:13:34.560
But we eclipsed that, and I was surprised.
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:36.800
So this year, I'm just gonna stick with it.
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:39.199
13 and 4, I think, is good.
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:47.760
Um again, you know, probably that line, I bet Vegas settles on like probably 10 and a half or like 11 and a half wins.
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:55.600
Um, which more realistically, like I can maybe the 11 and a half I can get with, but I don't know.
01:13:55.680 --> 01:13:58.560
I just got faith that our Broncos are gonna pull things through.
01:13:58.720 --> 01:14:12.000
Again, you don't bring 20 of your 22 starters back and upgrade one of those starter starting positions, you know, with Jalen Waddell, um, and not expect to be one of the top teams in the NFL.
01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:23.680
And if they're not, then they're you know, there's some players are gonna get let go, some coaches are gonna go, you know, but this is their opportunity to prove that they were one holding call away from Super Bowl.
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.079
So I'm expecting them to win the AFC West.
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:30.000
I think they sweep the the Chiefs again this year.
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:33.039
And uh I don't know.
01:14:33.199 --> 01:14:50.560
I I just I just have confidence that this team will get off to a faster start because or at least it'll look better because they don't when you look at those first six playoff teams, you can't come in here like we did against Tennessee last year saying, ah man, we can kind of figure things out.
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:52.239
You don't have that luxury.
01:14:52.479 --> 01:15:03.520
So I think this start, it depends on how you look at it, but I think it will benefit the Broncos um getting the tough opponents right at the beginning, and hopefully they'll be better for it.
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:04.880
Absolutely.
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:06.800
Um, I actually just looked it up.
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:12.000
Uh, right now, Vegas has us at a regular season win total at nine and a half.
01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:13.600
Nine and a half?
01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:15.840
Man, I might need to get in on that.
01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.640
I think that you know they should take that personally.
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:19.840
That's a slap in the face.
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:21.199
Nine and a half, really.
01:15:21.359 --> 01:15:24.079
Yeah, were we just a fluke last year?
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:27.279
Yeah, books are projecting a regression, right?
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:28.560
Because they didn't believe it.
01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:30.079
Win after win after win.
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:33.439
They didn't believe it, they didn't believe it, they didn't believe it, they didn't believe it.
01:15:34.079 --> 01:15:35.199
Nine and a half.
01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:37.119
That's crazy to me.
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:38.159
Yep.
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:43.439
And Denver has a plus 2,000 to win the Super Bowl.
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:50.239
Yeah, I think they're around like team 13 or 14 or something like that when it comes to the highest Super Bowl odds.
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:52.640
Again, I think that that's crazy.
01:15:52.880 --> 01:15:56.079
Um, yeah, this is gonna be a good year.
01:15:56.159 --> 01:16:02.560
This is the first year we've had since Peyton Manning, where the expectation legitimately is Super Bowl.
01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:06.960
So yeah, uh, that's it's gonna be fun watching the team this year with that in mind.
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:10.079
Um, odds makers.
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:12.079
I actually am now just reading this.
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:15.039
Kansas City, 10 and a half wins.
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:19.520
What they won six games last year, exactly.
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:23.359
They have a whole new secondary, bunch of young guys.
01:16:23.680 --> 01:16:24.239
Mm-hmm.
01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:27.119
Man, that's crazy.
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:28.880
That's crazy.
01:16:29.680 --> 01:16:32.960
I might have to take the over on Denver and the under on KC.
01:16:33.359 --> 01:16:34.000
Yep.
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:41.119
And so if you're you're listening or watching and you're betting person, better go hit those books now.
01:16:41.279 --> 01:16:42.479
Yeah, for real.
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:51.359
Um, so the bettings were like Kansas City 10 and a half, Denver's tied with the Chargers at nine and a half, and the Raiders are five and a half.
01:16:52.319 --> 01:16:54.079
Okay, huh?
01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:56.479
Chargers, man.
01:16:56.560 --> 01:16:58.000
I don't even think about them.
01:16:58.640 --> 01:16:59.199
Yeah.
01:17:00.319 --> 01:17:02.479
As you said earlier, Chargers gonna charger.
01:17:02.720 --> 01:17:04.399
Yeah, that's what they're gonna do.
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:08.159
As is the Raiders are gonna raid her.
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:09.039
Yeah, yeah.
01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:10.399
Sorry, Kubiak.
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:13.680
Yeah, that's that's gonna be rough for him.
01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:14.720
Yeah, it's okay.
01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:16.319
He'll get out of there fast.
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:24.079
Uh, so with that being oh, oh, I forgot about the preseason schedule.
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:30.560
So because we play only eight home games, we get two um home games in the preseason.
01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:33.840
We get Green Bay, Minnesota at home, and then Atlanta on the road.
01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:46.159
Which is I find this very interesting that we have this because from all the years that I've been watching Broncos football, I'm always used to the preseason.
01:17:46.239 --> 01:17:52.720
Either we're playing San Francisco, Seattle, Arizona, Dallas on a blue moon.
01:17:52.960 --> 01:17:54.800
Um, and then there was another team.
01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:57.039
No, I think those were like really the four teams.
01:17:57.199 --> 01:17:57.520
Yeah.
01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:01.039
Well, San Francisco was a gentleman's agreement.
01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:02.000
Yes.
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.399
And I think Peyton's not part of that gentleman group.
01:18:06.720 --> 01:18:07.279
That's fair.
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:22.640
Yeah, when we had Kubiac and and and Wade and you know, and Lynch went over to the nine, you know, these are guys that know each other, they trust, you know, players aren't gonna kill each other, and you know, it's it, you know, it's fine.
01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:28.000
Um, I don't think Peyton's part of that gentleman circle, and so it's like, hmm, yeah, we're done with that.
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:34.159
So, you know, it's light beer, so you know.
01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:35.680
It's light beer.
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:46.000
Um, so at Atlanta, Green Bay, Minnesota, man, that's just that's very that's a very interesting preeseason slate there.
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.520
Um especially that last one with Minnesota.
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.359
You probably well gonna see starters in game one or two.
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:54.880
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
01:18:55.039 --> 01:18:56.000
And he might play star.
01:18:56.239 --> 01:19:04.640
I mean, he usually plays starters in game three, but you know, he's not in charge of the offense this year, um, supposedly.
01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:06.399
So, you know.
01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:08.079
Okay.
01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:17.520
Yeah, so these are teams that have so we have they have Michael Penix, Jordan Love, and I guess JJ McCarthy is starting in Minnesota.
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:18.479
Kyler Murray.
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:19.279
I think it'll be Kyler.
01:19:19.680 --> 01:19:20.479
Oh, Kyler Murray.
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:21.359
Oh my gosh.
01:19:21.439 --> 01:19:23.119
I totally forgot he went to Minnesota.
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:24.079
I know, I know.
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:24.800
It's weird.
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:26.159
We'll see how he does.
01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:29.279
And and here comes again the Kelly Iroll.
01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:30.800
Right.
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:37.119
He'd make a lot more money and be happier if he had to stuck to his promise, but whatever.
01:19:38.159 --> 01:19:38.880
You know what?
01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:41.520
I I think since we've brought this is the second time it's been brought up.
01:19:41.600 --> 01:19:46.079
Um, Kelly, why don't you tell David your beef with Kyler Murray?
01:19:46.720 --> 01:19:50.640
I was a very big Oakland A's fan when I was a girl.
01:19:50.720 --> 01:19:52.960
I got to be an Oakland A's fat girl.
01:19:53.199 --> 01:20:06.399
Um and he promised and signed a contract to play for the A's, and then he reneged on it to be an Arizona Cardinal of all things.
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:09.439
So, you know, I just it's it's a personal beef.
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:10.479
He's my mortal enemy.
01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:12.399
He doesn't know I exist, I don't care.
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.920
I can hate him from afar, and that's what I'm gonna do.
01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:18.079
Yeah, it's gonna be short.
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:21.920
And I don't, I'm not even an A's fan anymore because they left me.
01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:29.840
Um, but you know, he still broke a promise, so that's right.
01:20:29.920 --> 01:20:31.439
You gotta hold him to it.
01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:39.680
When Kelly holds beef, it's oh yeah, my grudges are forever.
01:20:39.920 --> 01:20:41.840
Yeah, it's a big thing with her.
01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:48.479
I mean, the only thing that's gonna stop some of my grudges is you know dementia, which not only I don't get.
01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:54.880
But that's the only thing, that's the only thing that's gonna make me make me let him go is if my brain suddenly doesn't remember him.
01:20:55.039 --> 01:20:56.000
But I remember.
01:20:56.239 --> 01:20:58.800
I remember Kelly Jane remembers.
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:06.560
I I think at some point I'm gonna create a meme um and have your face on the pepperage farm first guy.
01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:08.079
Kelly remembers.
01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:09.520
Kelly remembers.
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:13.760
Um, shout out to Jay over here.
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:16.159
Oh wow, look at this crossover.
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:18.399
Thanks for tuning in, Jay.
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:27.439
Um, on that note, any final thoughts on this offseason before Kelly and I close it up for season seven?
01:21:27.760 --> 01:21:28.880
Oh, go ahead.
01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:40.079
This is something that going back to the draft, the way that I've kind of compared the Tyler O'Neadem pick is to like Pat Bryant when he was picked.
01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:44.720
Because like I studied the offensive guys a little bit more just because that's like more fun, obviously.
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:52.159
But I like I really liked Pat Bryant last year, and I was like, you know, he'd be a really good fit for like what the Broncos need.
01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:55.199
Um, but then when he was picked in the third round, people are like, What?
01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:56.000
Who is this guy?
01:21:56.079 --> 01:21:59.680
We could have on my mock drafts, we could have got him in the sixth round, you know.
01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:12.399
This is but I was like, Man, he's such a good player, and um I think Tyler Onyedum, he was kind of picked in that same mold of Pat Bryant, but for the defense, so that's my selling point.
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:15.760
If you like Pat Bryant, maybe you'll like Tyler O'Nedim.
01:22:15.920 --> 01:22:19.279
So yes, yes, put it on t-shirt, Kelly.
01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:21.520
I got so much, yeah.
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:24.000
Like that's now I think two t-shirts this season.
01:22:24.319 --> 01:22:25.680
This is what funny.
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:31.359
I come up with the one-liners, like I've got, you know, I I come up with the catchphrases.
01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:32.399
Yeah, J.R.
01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:34.239
Smith, you got a JR Smith it.
01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:35.600
You got a JR Smith it.
01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:38.560
If a defense can predict you, a defense can defend you.
01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:41.600
The only thing that stops a beef is dementia.
01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:44.399
You know, on the merch.
01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:45.279
Uh uh.
01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:49.920
Uh what level is stupid?
01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:52.079
Michael Crabtree level is stupid.
01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:53.439
Antonio Brown.
01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:54.399
Antonio Brown.
01:22:54.560 --> 01:22:56.800
Antonio Brown level is stupid.
01:22:57.680 --> 01:22:59.279
And over your big one right here.
01:22:59.359 --> 01:23:00.159
There are what?
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:02.560
Three phase well, that's not mine.
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:08.720
There are three phases of the games, not mine, but it is football law number two.
01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:15.840
Yeah, I think that's what I think that's the second like um quote.
01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:20.479
And it's funny because it always it happened last time when we had a guest as well.
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:24.880
So your one-liners, like maybe we should need more guests so that way you can have more one-liners.
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:30.960
I'm like trying to figure out how I can put this in a video or whatever.
01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:36.159
But you know, like Drake dropped like three albums this weekend or whatever, and they're like all horrible.
01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:38.079
But he's got like this one line.
01:23:38.239 --> 01:23:44.079
Yeah, he's like getting blown up because I guess he just dropped all these to like get out of his contract or whatever.
01:23:44.239 --> 01:23:52.960
So yeah, but he's got like this one line that's like, I'm out of sodas, I might just walk to Circle K by myself or something like that.
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:56.159
And I'm like, that's a great one-liner.
01:23:56.239 --> 01:23:58.079
I might just walk to Circle K by myself.
01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:00.720
You know, I gotta figure out how to include that in there.
01:24:00.960 --> 01:24:03.279
That's read that's regional though.
01:24:04.479 --> 01:24:08.640
Because where I lived in where I lived in Texas, it would be the conico.
01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:12.640
See, you know, I I live in San Antonio now.
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:14.239
Here it's 7-Eleven.
01:24:14.560 --> 01:24:15.439
7-Eleven.
01:24:15.600 --> 01:24:16.399
Yeah, Circle K.
01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:23.600
Circle Circle K is really regional because you know, so yeah, yeah, he should have done a more trip here.
01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:31.520
Yeah, yeah, quick trip, QT, or you know, oh my god, if he if he's in the right area, if he makes it Bucky's.
01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:34.319
Oh, Bucky's is the best, yeah.
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:41.359
So yeah, he should, he should have gone more a little less regional, and it yeah, it would blow up.
01:24:41.520 --> 01:24:43.359
Yeah, but Circle K.
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:44.399
Shout out to Circle K.
01:24:45.039 --> 01:24:52.640
Yeah, and if Circle K's got money, they need to, you know, they need to put it on a shirt and on the koozies and on the you know on the popcorn buckets.
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:54.319
Oh yeah.
01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:58.159
Yeah, we only have Wawa and Sheets here.
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:03.279
Which um who's attached to all your gas stations?
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:05.119
Oh no, we we have we have Seneca.
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:06.159
We have Seneco.
01:25:07.039 --> 01:25:07.439
Oh, yeah.
01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:09.199
What about Tim Hortons?
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:12.239
Does it get down to no doesn't Pennsylvania?
01:25:13.439 --> 01:25:13.600
Right?
01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:15.760
Wawa and Tim Hortons is coffee, right?
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:17.439
Yeah, Wawa's coffee.
01:25:17.520 --> 01:25:21.199
It's like now it's become like this super where you can like buy food and things like that, too.
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:24.319
Oh gosh, I I had a feeling I forgot one.
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:25.359
Here's one for you.
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:26.800
Midwest come and go.
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:27.600
Come and go.
01:25:27.760 --> 01:25:30.079
That's the wildest gas station name.
01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:30.800
That is.
01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:39.359
I think I passed by, I think there is one here in Pennsylvania, and I saw it, and I'm like, um, someone did not think this through like thoroughly.
01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:40.800
Oh, yes, they did.
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They thought that's why where are you gonna stop?
01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:53.039
If you have the choice between sunko and the come and go, where are you gonna go?
01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:55.359
You could have spelled it c o M E.
01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:00.560
That's why I know that's why you know it was thought through.
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:18.479
Because if they had missed if they had spelled it the correct way, C-O-M e, you'd go, oh, that's just someone, you know, English maybe language, they're not up on the slang, but they spelled it with that K instead of that C because they know they knew what they were doing, they knew.
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:21.680
I'm sorry, I think I mispronounced it.
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:24.079
I think it's pronounced Sinoco, I think is what I'm thinking of.
01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:28.319
Yeah, that makes sense.
01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:32.880
But yeah, I do know that there is uh C U M and Go around here too.
01:26:32.960 --> 01:26:35.680
I'm like, oh gosh, this is they thought it through.
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Because I walked into there and I'm like, wait a minute, I'm reading it, I'm like, wow, he really did that.
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:48.479
I mean, it works, doesn't it?
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People talk about it.
01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:50.319
Yeah?
01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:53.760
How many Midwest gas stations have you been to, Jay?
01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:56.319
Oh, me?
01:26:57.279 --> 01:26:57.680
Sorry.
01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:00.159
Well, I was talking to Jay since he brought it up.
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:01.279
Oh, I thought you said Jay.
01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:03.279
But we've all heard of it.
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Right?
01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:14.560
Like I've spent maybe a total of five days of my life in the Midwest, but I've heard of I've heard of that gas station.
01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:15.920
Yeah, yeah.
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:22.560
Oh boy.
01:27:23.840 --> 01:27:25.840
How did we get to gas stations?
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:27.279
Oh, because the day.
01:27:27.439 --> 01:27:28.640
Oh, my one liners.
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:29.199
That's right.
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:30.079
I brought it up.
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:31.920
Can't it happen?
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:36.239
Yeah.
01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:44.079
If you just fast forward through some of the podcasts and what you landed on, there are no guarantees.
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:49.920
I might have this into like a YouTube short, just this whole conversation right here.
01:27:50.319 --> 01:27:50.960
Yes.
01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:58.239
Like talking about gas stations and can uh Drake no Drake CDs that or Drake albums, I should say.
01:27:58.640 --> 01:28:01.840
Drake albums plus Gas stations equals chaos.
01:28:03.680 --> 01:28:04.239
Yes.
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That's why we need football.
01:28:07.760 --> 01:33:17.119
We don't know we don't we don't know how to hold I mean yesterday like the whole the finance guy like all we talked about was football while he you know put in numbers and I'm like okay this quickest you know oh gosh this is what I talk about I don't uh why world events the the direct happened um oh there was one more big news I totally forgot about before we go um the Broncos extended George Payton oh yeah oh yeah yeah good good deal yeah we win a lot so let's keep it going yeah the the last couple years with Bo really pulled him out of the hole yes yes finding Sean Payton and letting Sean Payton take control uh yeah kind of pulled him out of the hole if if Bo Nix and Sean Payton had not been successful he would not have been extended I guarantee it oh absolutely and so now he is with the team until at the latest 2030 is is is the Kardashian still Dayton our our race driver dude owner oh um I know you're talking about I Hamilton uh Lewis is it oh yeah Lewis Hamilton see okay oh yeah um I need someone to end that yeah so as of oh did they write it yeah so he's dating Kim Kardashian but I just the first the first article that pops up is Kanye West concocting a manipulative plan to break them up good yeah go Kanye uh homeworkers side chicks bat bat single whatever it is go break that shit up let's go gosh could you imagine if they're sailed together week one Taylor Swiss and Bardashian I don't want they've already ruined basketball the carcass in single handedly added in the downfall of the NBA get them the fuck away from my NFL team and now more chaos now now and this one will definitely be clipped and shared on the uh youtube as well um before say that again I said I made the dogs next door start barking as I got that videos open well before it gets any chaotic do we have any final thoughts that are football related I should say that is football related okay that is okay well I was thinking it was more like celebrity but I argue that is football related fair enough that is a minor owner of our team messing with with the plastic dolls that are the Kardashians who have ruined at least four NBA careers that's fair that's honestly fair and they're moving on to the NFL because there's no one left in the NBA that will touch them I mean if we could just move if we can find a way to move them to maybe base uh no maybe not base let's get them away from all sports soccer soccer makes so much more money guys soccer that's perfect all right oh sorry david david's like okay the the the term went way left I wish I had jokes to add but I don't it's all good there's got to be like my silicone and mile hot doesn't doesn't mix right something something it was that's right that's right some hope right the silicone and the in the high altitude and and something anything right it'll make it it'll make it expand and explode in them right like a like a helium balloon the higher up you go oh yeah that's true yes yeah it's dangerous someone get that knowledge into the Kardashian okay researching now um I'll do that off screen now um on that note David thank you so much for joining us um we appreciate your yeah um before you before we do go um why don't you tell a little bit of why don't you tell our viewers um any projects you're working on where they might find you um I did actually realize that I was not subscribed to your YouTube channel so I actually corrected that right before I came here.
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Well fantastic I'm subscribed to your YouTube channel now so we're all on the same page it's fantastic um if you're listening from uh you know Spotify come over to YouTube sometime that's where you'll find me David Talks Broncos for daily broncos content and crazy ideas and David Talks buffs if you like Car Auto Buffalo's uh college football so uh got those two channels going tapping anytime and um yeah would would love for anybody to stop by so guys uh really appreciate you having me on this was a lot of fun and uh always happy to come back on again okay oh absolutely uh we're gonna hold you to that yes do it hold any any um guest that says that we always hold them to it that sounds great we'll talk again sounds good all right Kelly ready to close this out uh sure uh um I don't quite have the the outro memorized um so uh as always you can find me on twitter at I love to lead you can find me at tiefly guy15 you can find us both at the same time at in underscore com underscore pleat underscore two because there's two of us um all those DMs are open you are welcome to send challenge flags song requests we didn't do a lot of bad karaoke last season um so if that's something you missed you know send us some songs um questions comments concerns guest requests um I beg of you to be polite and to stay closed if sliding into someone's DM is not for you you can send us an email uh in underscore com underscore pleat at outlook.com um we're also available uh we're also on instagram in underscore com underscore pleat underscore two um which um hopefully will be more active um there um youtube we are um gosh you now I'm losing it we are live every Wednesday as you oh perfect it's scrolling right now every Wednesday it'll be starting in August at 9 15 my time 8 15 central 715 mountain um yeah mountain time where most where most of you are or 6 15 kelly time um and if you cannot tune in at that time because I know that's usually a weeknight so it's a little late for some of us you can always um sorry we're always available at least 24 hours afterwards on Apple Spotify basically wherever it is that you listen to your podcasts um and leave uh leave a review comments because as much as we love to do this podcast we're going into our eighth season coming up um if there's if you don't if you have some changes in mind and you don't tell us we cannot help you just keep that in mind who knows maybe we'll have more of these random moments about gas stations and plastic dolls and things like that oh yeah I mean go listen to seven years worth seven years worth and who knows maybe we'll get some merch going up if we have something that's funny.
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To be fair if you want quick concise podcasts are fifth years the season to go listen to um because those stayed right around our goal time of 45 minutes.
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Yeah we lost it sucks yeah we're gonna lose next week okay great bye see you later if you want quick concise and no tangents the the fifth season is the one to go listen to but all the other ones um there's just no guarantee where where where the talk takes us exactly um and on that note um that this will conclude season seven otherwise known as the downway season and it was a lot of fun uh thanking all the guests that jumped on thanking to all of you this is our first full year finishing up with um YouTube um to going live and so we will be back on YouTube again next year and I expect to see a lot more of you here yes but on that note and until then and until August go Broncos well usually all year round it is go broncos go broncos so and see you guys stop the Kardashians right bye Kardashians thanks for listening to the Incomplete podcast tune in next time for more Broncos news from two of your favorite fans be sure to subscribe to the podcast on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and share the podcast with your friends and family.
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