Speaker 1: I don't think it's right for you.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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Speaker 1: Like start a family and all that shit.
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Speaker 2: Of course it's not right for me. Otherwise I already would have done it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think you got to just be like less outside.
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Speaker 4: I'm not out.
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Speaker 1: Like he missed one art basil. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm, but I'm, I'm like 12 years younger than you.
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Speaker 4: So it's a little different.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying like, I think be less outside.
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Speaker 4: We need a, Show Stiney some respect.
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Speaker 2: Yo, Steinberg.
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Speaker 4: Shut the door.
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Speaker 2: No one clapped when he walked in.
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Speaker 4: I didn't do the intro.
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Speaker 1: No one even acknowledged me.
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Speaker 2: Well, we didn't do the intro yet.
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Speaker 3: You know what's good about Steinberg, dude, is he knows how to work this shit because he has a podcast.
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Speaker 4: Let's see about that.
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Speaker 2: What's up? What up, Stiney?
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Speaker 4: That's good.
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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm excited about this episode.
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Speaker 2: What about you? You're not excited? No, I already clapped.
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Speaker 1: I put this down a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Someone help the guy out. The man's jacket was gigantic on the last one. Yeah, dude, following Ali G is no small feat. That's a good opener. I like that.
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Speaker 2: Back-to-back Zionists.
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Speaker 4: I love you, Stiney.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Dude, I really do like you, Stiney.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: For some reason, I think people think you're polarizing. Do you feel that? I mean, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I just know how to, I guess, piss people off.
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Speaker 4: But I think people are looking at you from the wrong lens.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Because here's the lens that I look at you from, and just like, pretty much everything that's going on in the world, is it entertaining?
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Speaker 1: For sure.
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Speaker 4: Am I captivated by it?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And, like, I don't know what the fuck is going on, but, like, I think you're entertaining, bro.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I appreciate that.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I.
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Speaker 1: Feel like a lot of people, right, if you, like, are scrolling on clips, if you don't know me and you see one snippet, especially you two guys, if, like, you're scrolling and you see someone you don't know and you see one thing of them now, You're going to assume something.
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Speaker 2: It like defines your whole personality.
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Speaker 1: And they're not going to look deeper into you or like get your humor, right? Like you probably get it because you've known me or seen me for a while.
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Speaker 4: Oh, maybe that's it. We actually have a bit of this issue as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: We are extremely sarcastic.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Like really sarcastic.
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Speaker 2: No, way too sarcastic. Too sarcastic.
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Speaker 4: We learned that the internet doesn't, they don't get it.
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Speaker 1: Nah, it's so fucking serious.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But I don't, but them not getting it and Stiney's figuring this out now, you figured this out 10 years ago or eight years ago. the internet not getting something and getting mad or posting about it is the goal of all of this. You want to confuse them to a point where they have to post about it. So like, I want them to think I'm like a simp or I say things like, imagine if Jimmy joined clout gang and he became clout.
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Speaker 2: All those things are all just things to drive. It's almost like rage bait.
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Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, I have a commentary on this. So if you, if you do rage bait correctly, and you achieve the goal of just trying to get attention for whatever, or just get attention, increase brand awareness, whatever it is, you've done what your goal is as the person, right? But if people know that they're getting rage baited, they won't allow themselves to get rage baited, which is interesting because on Twitter, I experimented with this. I posted this video yesterday, and I captioned it, Commence Rage Bait. but no one reacted to it like they would have if I didn't let them know they were getting rage baited because they want to be smarter than you. And it makes them feel like they've won if they think they're dunking on you when really you're rage baiting them. But if you let them know you're rage baiting them, they're not going to bite.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%.
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Speaker 4: You've got to stay in that character.
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Speaker 1: Dude, rage bait's also like an art.
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Speaker 2: A little bit.
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Speaker 1: You've got to be good at it.
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Speaker 3: And Stein, he's one of the best at it. And I will say during this early... show Glaze Fest right now that's going to devolve into a different type of conversation. My favorite thing about you and your content and your show, and I say this to people all the time, is your juxtaposition of unexpected people, okay? So for example, Hunter Biden face-to-face with Krip Mac, I think is like one of the greatest sit-down combinations that I've ever seen.
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Speaker 2: And I really do mean that. Like two people that you just... Just do.
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Speaker 3: Not like, like if you were to put Kamala Harris and Travis Pastrana in the same room, like just these people that just don't fit together and you want to know how they play. And I think you do a really good job of putting the show together like that.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: You might talk so much.
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, bro.
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Speaker 1: I know you're complimenting me. I'm not supposed to diss you, but it's just like, it's great.
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Speaker 2: It's not a day. It's a podcast. If I didn't talk a lot, I wouldn't have a show.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.
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Speaker 2: Imagine we all just sat here quietly.
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Speaker 4: Flight, where we talked for four and a half hours. One time.
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Speaker 1: You had to sit next to him? I would not want to sit next to you and raw dog a flight.
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Speaker 4: No, it's impressive.
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Speaker 1: That was the longest compliment where you could have just been like, yo, it's really cool how you do this.
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Speaker 2: It's a podcast.
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Speaker 3: You offer context. But some girl did say it to me the other day. She's like, we were having dinner for the first time at Craig's the other night. And she was just like, I did notice one thing. She's like, don't get mad at me for it. And she was like, you just talk about yourself a lot. And, and we were with a group, we were with a group of people and she was like, why do you, and she was like, why do you think that is? And I was like, well, now I don't want you to hate me for saying something.
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Speaker 2: She was like, okay. And I was like, it's cousin fucking awesome.
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Speaker 1: But you didn't say that.
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Speaker 2: I swear I did. I was like, I was like, I have the best stories.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: So like, that's the thing though.
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Speaker 1: While you're complimenting me, he wants to sound so good complimenting me that like people like, damn, it's still about you.
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Speaker 3: Well, listen, like I said, on a podcast, my goal is to be articulate.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 3: And so when you offer some context to your statement, like, like what, okay. Going back, if you want to get technical, now that you've dissed me, what part of that statement should I've pulled out?
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Speaker 2: For example?
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Speaker 1: No, it's just like the explaining. It's just I think you could have gotten there quicker.
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Speaker 2: Yo, Stiney, I like you because you sit motherfuckers together.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 1: I would say, dude, I really appreciate that.
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Speaker 2: That would be on your show. Like, that's the type of garbage bullshit we hear on your show.
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Speaker 4: Here we go.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I could have sat down here and just like.
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Speaker 3: Different types of people sit together and talk about some shit.
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Speaker 4: That's good.
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Speaker 1: Putting two people in a room like that is an art, bro. What am I supposed to do? Sit down here and just ask you? People just come on here and they're like, yo, are you going to get married or start a family?
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Speaker 3: No, that's why you're good at what you do, because you ask crazy shit.
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Speaker 1: That's all I see, right? It's like everyone comes on here and asks when you're going to start a family.
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Speaker 3: No, I think in the internet world, but you get people like Ali G or Sasha, whoever on the show, then they ask real questions.
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Speaker 1: Does anybody ask your actual take about that? What you think about your best friend, where he's at with shit?
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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Speaker 1: I actually thought about it. When people say that, I don't think it's right for you.
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Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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Speaker 1: It's like start a family and all that shit.
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Speaker 2: Of course it's not right for me. Otherwise, I already would have fucking done it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you got to just be like less outside.
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Speaker 2: I'm not outside.
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Speaker 1: Like he missed one fucking art basil. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: Bro, who are you to talk?
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Speaker 1: No, but I'm like 12 years younger than you.
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Speaker 4: So it's a little different.
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Speaker 2: Who gives a fuck?
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I think be less outside.
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Speaker 2: You're over 30, we're all 50.
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Speaker 1: He wouldn't be a good family guy. right now no you wouldn't you'd leave it you'd be at fucking f1.
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Speaker 4: You know art basil fashion week no there's no chance it's part of my job it's part.
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Speaker 5: Of my career i know i have hard to stop the greatest network in this entire industry that's there's no question about it there's no comparison that network is gained through everything.
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Speaker 6: That i do have you been to live miami yeah right with mike That was maybe years ago.
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Speaker 4: Years ago is perfect.
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Speaker 2: I haven't been there in like 10 years.
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Speaker 4: Do you by chance remember seeing an older gentleman with a beard, bald guy, in a silver skin suit, dancing on the DJ booth?
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Speaker 1: Was this around Halloween?
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Speaker 4: I think he does it regularly. It's like his thing.
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Speaker 2: He's older.
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Speaker 4: He's famous for it. There's going to be some people watching who know who I'm talking about.
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Speaker 1: Wow, you think that's what Mike's going to be?
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Speaker 4: It's my biggest fear.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. What, he's this guy in a skin shoe?
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Speaker 4: That's what Mike becomes.
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Speaker 1: My biggest fear is in 12 years I'm going to be still going to live and going to fucking.
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Speaker 4: You want to settle down.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so at some point.
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Speaker 2: Hold on. Okay.
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Speaker 3: So, but let's dive into this whole like age thing, right? Cause I go to, I go to the nightlife stuff. No, no, but let's talk about it. I go to the, the, do the nightlife stuff. Sometimes Logan collects Pokemon cards.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: He has a squirtle tattoo on his penis. You, you sniff blow and go to the strip club every fucking night of the week.
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Speaker 4: So like, who are you?
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Speaker 6: So like, but what I'm saying is, what is, like, but I'm, by the way, but by the way, I'm not, I would never.
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Speaker 2: Judge either of you guys for any of that shit.
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Speaker 3: Like, Logan playing on Tetris all day, and like, dude, he's a father, he shouldn't be, but I would never say that.
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Speaker 2: Because that's not, you don't, you don't judge people by their hobbies. It's so strange.
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Speaker 3: Like if I had a hobby that was like doing something demented or destructive, then I would want you to call me out for it. But like, if I like going to shows.
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Speaker 4: He is minding his business at the end of the day.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I know.
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Speaker 3: No, no. And he's not, I don't think either of you guys are being like mean about it or like saying anything, but like I, it is part of my, my job. When I, when I turn that off completely, I noticed that my network starts to shrink. Like I noticed a lot of those conversations and that network has produced a lot of fucking, a lot of guests for this show, a lot of business opportunities, a lot of money in my pocket.
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Speaker 2: So it's like, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: What you just said, actually, your network shrinking could be a good thing. Because that could mean you're maturing a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: You're done trying to impress everybody.
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Speaker 2: I'm not.
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Speaker 1: I don't try to impress anyone. It might not be a bad thing on different levels. I don't have to impress anyone.
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Speaker 2: What do I have to impress? It's not about impressing people.
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Speaker 3: It's about when we have a show, and we go to a random city, and I know the quarterback, and I know the person that's on the TV show there, or the DJ, and I have them come on the show, or I do business with them. When someone calls me and says, we need new creators for a business thing.
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Speaker 4: It is true. To to be fair, selfishly, if Mike wasn't out and about, I, it would not be as easy to do this show. Even just you. He was able to hit you up, what, yesterday?
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Speaker 2: Last night. And I can do that for any, but I mean, look at the 1010 Burger rollout.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that I've ever seen a brand just grab every creator, every.
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Speaker 2: Streamer, every food reviewer, every football player, DJ, and have everyone come and talk about it.
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Speaker 4: I'm going to summarize this. In short, it's warranted, you being out and about, living your life the way you do, but it's different. And I don't know how many other people in this space are doing... I don't know how many other super visible, unk kind of guys who are still cool, hooking up with young girls. Legal, legal, legal age. They're not that young.
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Speaker 6: I've also had sex with one.
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Speaker 4: But admit you're impressed with the girls he gets.
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Speaker 3: I am.
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Speaker 1: That's the only reason where it's like, alright, I get it.
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Speaker 3: But.
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Speaker 1: But, like, as you get older, the chicks that you're going to be able to marry, I feel like it's that. Floor's getting higher.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. The floor.
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Speaker 1: Like, you can't be. You got to be with at least a 29-year-old.
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Speaker 2: No, I agree. For a long-term relationship.
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Speaker 1: For long-term.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for one night.
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Speaker 1: And then next year, it's going to go up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. But I mean, the other problem that I face too, and I guess I would ask, I would flip this on you guys and ask you, the question is there was never like a day in my life from like the age of never, like ever where I was, where I ever thought or envisioned the idea of like walking down the aisle or having a kid. Like it's never once popped into my mind. I don't know how to fix that. I don't know if that's a good thing, a bad thing, whatever. I've just never in my mind, I've thought about building businesses. I've thought about traveling the world. I've thought about writing bestselling books. I've thought about hanging out with the coolest people in the world or spending nights with Chappelle or interviewing the press.
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Speaker 2: I've thought about all those things, but I've never once thought.
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Speaker 3: About marrying a girl and being with one girl and starting a family and sitting in a rocking chair and watching the prices right at night.
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Speaker 2: I've never thought of it. I've thought about going on the prices, right?
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you have a million that it.
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Speaker 2: Goes through my mind all day. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So like in my mind, I'm a monkey that just walks around with the symbols and I don't want to have a little monkey following me around because now I got to, it makes my symbols slower.
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Speaker 4: A hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. You could have just said to like, I'm not ready, but it's all good.
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Speaker 2: I ain't got no kid. Cause I'm not ready. Next topic. Like, is that how you want your shows to go?
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Speaker 4: I mean, no.
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Speaker 2: That's good. How do you do an hour and a half podcast with one word answers? This is like when I destroyed.
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Speaker 1: Some of you that time on the show. Listen, I'm just saying. I'm not even throwing shade, but like, even in your explanation, you had to throw in like, doing shit with Chappelle. You know what I'm saying? Like, you compliment yourself five times.
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Speaker 2: Some of the shit? Yeah.
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Speaker 4: That's all. That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I've never noticed it until now.
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Speaker 2: How's your confidence?
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Speaker 1: It's good. It's gotten better.
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Speaker 2: Say some good things about yourself right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've like, I lost a lot of weight.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: Locked in.
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Speaker 1: I've been in the gym.
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Speaker 2: Did you lose it naturally or?
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Speaker 1: Peptides helped. But no, I made some like, I was partying too for a long time. Like aggressively. Like when Happy Dad launched, we were like drinking fucking five nights a week.
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Speaker 2: Tough. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And then it just gets super unhealthy. You gain weight and then it's just like, you got to make some changes. But yeah, I feel confident.
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Speaker 4: Does that confidence translate to your ability to talk to women?
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: How do you feel your game is?
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Speaker 2: Good.
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Speaker 4: Stiney has game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think that's like a known thing.
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Speaker 4: What's the, what's the, what's the.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it is a known thing.
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Speaker 1: It is a known thing.
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Speaker 2: Really?
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I've seen it go both ways.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying I didn't know, I didn't know.
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Speaker 1: I'll fucking compare resumes with you any day.
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Speaker 2: Oh my God. Who's the, who's the, who's the hottest, who's the hottest. Straight L. Who's the hottest.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that. You think that chick wants that out there?
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Speaker 4: We'll bleep it out.
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Speaker 2: Huh? We'll bleep it out.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. I swear, I swear I'll bleep it out. I'm just curious kind of personally. Leave it out? Yeah, we'll leave it out.
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Speaker 1: No, but you guys will still show it. I'm not going to say this. I'm just going to say this because it's in her mic.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's good, but that's like also like, that's like my Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: You haven't been with her?
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Speaker 2: Whenever I want to. No. What do you mean?
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Speaker 1: She's been trying for years.
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Speaker 2: I've never tried her. Give up.
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Speaker 4: She's with me, bro.
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Speaker 2: Give up, my boy. No, no.
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Speaker 1: That's like tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: If I can walk off the set, fly there and.
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Speaker 2: Do it.
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Speaker 1: There's no way.
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Speaker 3: 100%.
00:14:20
Speaker 2: Look at my text.
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Speaker 1: I thought you've been chasing forever.
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Speaker 2: Not a day in my life have I ever chased.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, by the way, I've roasted him. I've roasted him.
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Speaker 2: No, he has no idea. He's no shit.
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Speaker 4: It's a predicament. I don't consider it like a locked and loaded.
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Speaker 2: Type of deal. Whenever I want.
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Speaker 4: Let's go. Yeah, thank you. Okay, all right. So yeah, no, so, okay, so.
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Speaker 2: Also, you guys are children talking about fucking conquests like that.
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Speaker 4: It's pretty corny.
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Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Which is like the hottest girl you ever banged. What are we, seven?
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Speaker 6: Seven.
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Speaker 2: Bro, I'm just curious.
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you love to tell people. It's just a corny question.
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Speaker 1: See, this is him trying to bait us into asking him so then he can tell.
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Speaker 4: Who's the hottest girl you think you know?
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Speaker 2: I don't look at it like that.
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Speaker 4: How do you look at it?
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Speaker 3: Also, that's like, dude, nothing pops into my mind. Like, I don't have one that's like hotter than the next. Do you have a hottest girl you've ever banged?
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Speaker 2: My wife.
00:15:05
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Speaker 2: You had a wanted war criminal on your podcast, right? Okay. And you asked him what his Burger King order was. Did you think.
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Speaker 1: Was that me that asked him that?
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Speaker 2: Well, you guys in general. I put you two together.
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Speaker 3: Was there not something maybe a little bit more poignant or aggressive you could have asked him about his stance on....
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Speaker 1: I mean, is there any other, is anybody else ever going to ask him that? Maybe it's a different, no, that was a, that was actually a really bad fumble on our part.
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Speaker 4: Did you guys not prepare for the Benjamin Netanyahu podcast?
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Speaker 1: Dude, they, we heard about it like day before and we were on a kick stream. Like we were pretty lit. I'm not going to lie. Like we were drunk.
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Speaker 4: Oh, and you just, you said, fuck it.
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Speaker 1: We're like, Hey, it's tomorrow at this time. And we were just like, didn't have much time to process it. We were like, all right, we'll just do it tomorrow.
00:16:30
Speaker 4: Think he was doing a little run because they asked us if we would have him on you guys said no yeah it just it and if we did we'd want to do it like we did with trump where we definitely are prepared yeah because we i was afraid of what happened to you guys happening to us because what do you mean by that like if you don't prepare for that podcast you're gonna get fucking i think they were.
00:16:52
Speaker 1: I mean i wish we could fucking go back and just That's when you hit people up that are close to you, you know, are smart, you know, are educated. And you know what I'm saying? Like before an interview like that. And before you do Trump, you've talked to a lot of people first.
00:17:04
Speaker 4: And you got to be prepared if it comes up to push back, even though it's kind of uncomfortable. Yeah.
00:17:11
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole like situation is like, that actually was the biggest learning thing about for me for just politics in general. Because I think all of us, I can speak for hopefully, a lot of people where you get so caught up in like, holy shit, I'm going to be talking to the president or holy shit, I'm talking to this guy. But their goal is to get your platform. And like, you just look at it like, holy, wow, I'm actually in a room with this person. But there's so much responsibility that comes with who it is. And you don't really think about that. And I think because this just happened where like people running for president are going to fuck with some YouTubers, podcasters. It hasn't always been like this.
00:17:49
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:17:50
Speaker 1: So I think we got a little blinded by that.
00:17:53
Speaker 4: No, because I think what you're describing is, this is what I am interpreting it as, because I've felt it. When you're in the room with just any person in general, they're humanized. All of a sudden, it's like, you know, this is a real person. I'm not seeing them on the screen. I'm not seeing a headline. I have the opportunity to, like, do what we said we want people to avoid earlier, where it's like, let's avoid the clip. Let me dive in.
00:18:12
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:18:12
Speaker 4: But you also, with certain people, can't forget that there is a bit of, like, a symbiotic exchange happening where, like, they are using you for something.
00:18:21
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah.
00:18:21
Speaker 4: And so... Contrarily, how do you stay true to who you are and remember what you stand for on your platform? I didn't watch the full podcast.
00:18:33
Speaker 3: That was the other problem too with you doing the show was that people have this presumption that because of your background... Being, you know, Jewish and having an Israeli like attachment.
00:18:44
Speaker 2: Of some sort.
00:18:45
Speaker 1: I have no Israeli attachment.
00:18:46
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean? That's the presumption. Yeah.
00:18:48
Speaker 3: So that when you have him on the show that you're going to beach ball him these questions. But I'm not saying this, Donnie. I'm just saying that was the presumption, which is what made the backlash even more deep because it felt like people assumed that you were platforming this guy to push a narrative.
00:19:05
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:19:06
Speaker 6: No.
00:19:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. But what I'm saying is like after that, There were all these rumors that came out about me and who I was, who I'm tied to, and they're all bullshit, but anyone who sees that's just gonna believe it. Listen, I have no ties. I honestly am over talking about it because I don't really have an opinion. I don't really care.
00:19:26
Speaker 6: Hey, listen, I'll take it back for a second, too. We had Trump on the show. I'm in America, too.
00:19:31
Speaker 3: Listen, we had Trump on the show. I remember sitting there at Mar-a-Lago in front of the entire staff, Secret Service... And I certainly also didn't feel walking out of that interview like.
00:19:44
Speaker 2: I'd represented both sides of the topic well. I'm not a Trump guy. I didn't endorse. I wasn't there to endorse him.
00:19:51
Speaker 3: I asked him a couple questions about what he would do for the mental health situation in the States and substance abuse. He promoted my book, which was cool. But I also walked out probably thinking to myself, I probably could have asked some harder questions.
00:20:02
Speaker 2: Of course.
00:20:03
Speaker 3: You have a lot of responsibilities, a.
00:20:06
Speaker 2: Lot of lifting.
00:20:07
Speaker 1: You're answering your own question perfectly. by that's why he's doing the podcast with you no I know that I get it that's why that's why when Netanyahu's like dude these two dipshits aren't gonna ask me anything like you know this is gonna be a fucking.
00:20:18
Speaker 2: So what do you think so what do you think that means for I.
00:20:20
Speaker 1: Think it means like even like creators I think it's gonna happen again but it's gonna be different but there's so much responsibility and you can't be blinded by who you're in a room with without thinking about what's gonna come after do.
00:20:34
Speaker 4: You think you're actually gonna take that lesson and Apply it moving forward.
00:20:38
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah.
00:20:39
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:20:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that shit put me through so much mental. Just like, why did I fucking do that? I didn't gain really anything.
00:20:47
Speaker 2: So, okay.
00:20:48
Speaker 4: So from the outside though, I feel like how, how you've, you've been through some shit, which is crazy. Cause it's, I feel like you're kind of like on the, the, the ripple of it all. Like you're not at the center of it. Even the milk boys in general, you guys do a lot of shit. Are you like technically still a Nelk boy?
00:21:04
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
00:21:05
Speaker 4: So I've always thought this, like you guys are partially, I think able to get away with so much crazy shit because there's more than one of you and you're kind of insulated by the Nelk brand.
00:21:16
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:21:16
Speaker 4: It's like, no offense to Kyle. I don't think Kyle's like big enough where people could just point at him and like cancel Kyle four geared. It's like cancel the Nelk boys, but you can't, you can't do that because there's so many of you and the brand is known for being edgy. So, like, when I see you guys do shit like that and there's any sort of backlash, I don't even bat a fucking eyelash at them. Like, this doesn't matter. When does it matter? This will affect them in no way.
00:21:42
Speaker 2: When does it matter?
00:21:43
Speaker 4: So it's interesting to hear that it is truly, like, I mean, fucking with you in the terms of it sounds like you're pushing yourself to be better, but, like, anything you really do where there's backlash, like, are you really tripping about it?
00:21:55
Speaker 2: No, not really.
00:21:57
Speaker 1: Like, backlash is not what's going to affect how I feel about something.
00:22:02
Speaker 4: Does that make sense?
00:22:03
Speaker 3: That's not true because I was, because I'm, as much shit as you talk to me, I'm the first person you call when shit gets fucking crazy. And you've called me, and you've called me a number of times, especially after the Netanyahu podcast.
00:22:15
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you were not fucking feeling good at all.
00:22:18
Speaker 4: Right.
00:22:18
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that whole situation, like people forget we did that live stream right after with like Nick Fuentes and like all these people. So it was just not organized, not thought out. And that was like more of like, panic mode of like, what the fuck is going on? What do we get ourselves into?
00:22:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:22:34
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying by that is like, you're always going to get backlash. You get backlash sometimes. Bro, for the fucking crazy shit. Let me tell you, like what you just said about Kyle, it makes sense. It seems like a jab, but it makes sense because the Nelk brand is so much bigger than everybody.
00:22:53
Speaker 4: I didn't even mean that in the fucking slightest as a jab.
00:22:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, but people are going to interpret it that way.
00:22:57
Speaker 4: Dude, it's not a fuck.
00:22:59
Speaker 2: Really?
00:22:59
Speaker 4: I think so, yeah.
00:23:01
Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying 100%.
00:23:02
Speaker 4: I'd stand on that. I don't think like, and I think Kyle would too. He's not like, I mean, I guess he's kind of like the face of the Noke brand, but I don't know. It seems like an equal, like, it's a group of guys doing really fucking funny, edgy shit. Yeah. I don't know. That wasn't a jab at all.
00:23:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:23:22
Speaker 4: I think Kyle's great and what he's built is great.
00:23:26
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
00:23:27
Speaker 3: But that's also, I mean, might not be a bad time to also talk about that situation a little bit too right now. I mean, dude, it's, it's hard to have you on the show right now without talking about some uncomfortable shit. Cause there's a lot of, and to see you through Logan's hand right now is tough too, but there's a lot of, there's a lot of shit going on, dude. And I mean, like even, even within the, even within the Nelk brand, you know what I'm saying? And obviously like watching we, we, got very close to the situation ourselves right here on the show, obviously with Steve, uh, And.
00:24:00
Speaker 1: On an episode where I forgot about that.
00:24:02
Speaker 2: Dude, on an episode where.
00:24:04
Speaker 3: When I was, I spoke in Nashville this week and out of all the things that could have been asked from the audience after we were done speaking on all the different monetization and interviewing the president and this person, that person, the first question was, tell me about the Steve will do it episode. And it is a question that constantly comes up from people. They want to know, was it real?
00:24:22
Speaker 2: Why did it happen?
00:24:23
Speaker 3: What's the relationship like now? And for me, that's really just a representation of like a long. struggle of Steve will do it and how, how his life is going right now. And also how his life as it pertains to being adjacent to the Nelk boys is going.
00:24:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. So like, what do you, what do you have to say about that situation?
00:24:47
Speaker 4: I can ask you like a clip.
00:24:49
Speaker 2: What's going on with Steve will do it.
00:24:53
Speaker 4: Shit.
00:24:53
Speaker 1: I mean, there's always something going on with Steve, but, uh, I, I don't know. I don't even know at this point. I like the problem with me is, When Kyle, Steve, whatever start beefing, I have a friendship with both of them. So I try and just stay out of it. But I think it's kind of inevitable when you have a group that becomes so powerful and money gets involved, ego gets involved. Like, dude, that shit's not going to last. Something's going to happen. You guys have made it a long way.
00:25:19
Speaker 2: And guess, because of me.
00:25:21
Speaker 1: But you know how to play the game. Like you've never, you know, Logan's top dog and you're like sidekick. You're never going to try and take the shine.
00:25:28
Speaker 2: Right?
00:25:31
Speaker 4: On this show, I do not feel like that.
00:25:33
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:25:34
Speaker 1: You're also the face of WWE. He said it.
00:25:38
Speaker 4: I'm going to stay humble. This is like a side quest.
00:25:41
Speaker 3: Even though you said it in a certain way, there actually is a part of that that is true.
00:25:45
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of... I think there's a lot of management.
00:25:50
Speaker 3: Of relationship, whether it be boss, bigger creator, better friend.
00:25:56
Speaker 2: He would....
00:25:59
Speaker 3: In the relationship there was always a yielding of power to who was better at the thing. He would yield to me early in the show on certain things too, or on certain decision.
00:26:08
Speaker 2: Making, he'd be like, no, what does Mike have to say about it?
00:26:11
Speaker 3: So like we, it takes a certain intelligence in a relationship when you're operating at the highest level and there's a lot of money involved to maintain a friendship and a relationship. And so I'm not saying that there's intelligence missing on the Steve Kyle relationship in either part.
00:26:28
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. Maybe there is.
00:26:30
Speaker 3: But Steve is a fucking time bomb. Okay, Steve will do it as a time bomb, a ticking time bomb. And you never know really at what point he's at 60 seconds, 30 seconds, 5 seconds, or 3 seconds.
00:26:43
Speaker 2: But at any point....
00:26:47
Speaker 3: He's going to end up in blackface. He's going to say that you, that you tried to steal everything from him, that he, that, that, you know, someone is a molester or something like, and you never know. And, and I've said it before that makes running a business very difficult. I also like Steve and I also like Kyle, but it's the idea of being able to have Steve as a, as a, you know, really structured member of a, of a business. It seems a little bit difficult.
00:27:14
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's impossible, but, That's what makes him like his value was never being that. Like, that's why people don't understand Kyle's role as being the business guy and making sure without Kyle, like Nelk would never be able to operate. There wouldn't be a production team, hotels, book, all that shit. Like he would handle the business side and Steve would come in and be the entertainer. So Steve only knows that, um, when he crashes out and he goes crazy like this, like I think part of him, he needs to learn how to hold himself accountable. Like even when he came on here, like, dude, First rule of a podcast, don't show up fucking hammered. You're about to talk for an hour.
00:27:49
Speaker 4: I don't think he.
00:27:51
Speaker 2: Oh, he showed up drunk, but he got hammered on the show.
00:27:55
Speaker 3: And the thing about it was, he was nervous. He was nervous and I tried my absolute best. I talked to him the whole time. I try, I'm like, dude, I'm, and by the way, like even the things I said to him, which were so deeply rooted in like me actually caring about him when I was like, yo, are you good right now? People ran with it and tried to turn it into some sort of demeaning thing. Like I was asking him, like, are you okay? Like I was being mean about it. I was literally asking him, like, yo, are you good? Do you want to take five minutes? Do you want to walk off.
00:28:21
Speaker 4: Set and come back? Those clips are hilarious.
00:28:23
Speaker 1: It's like, my kick Steve will do it off podcast, shit like that.
00:28:25
Speaker 3: But I would never argue or say, like, that's not how it happened because that's why we do this shit.
00:28:29
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want that clip to come out like that.
00:28:31
Speaker 6: Right.
00:28:31
Speaker 1: I mean, does that thing actually bother you, that episode? Because the clip that goes the most viral is you being like, yo, I have a line.
00:28:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm forgetting what he said.
00:28:41
Speaker 2: He kept dropping the hard R.
00:28:44
Speaker 3: Oh, there was a black person in the room.
00:28:46
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
00:28:46
Speaker 4: I think I think I think I was I think I was just getting kind of uncomfortable. I'm on the let's be anti-racist train. Yeah. So like, yeah, like I'm not I didn't I just didn't fuck with it in real time.
00:28:57
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:28:57
Speaker 4: Which is tough because as I was saying earlier, it's like trying to humanize Steve and treat him with respect and with our guests, especially like I'm not a. we don't consider ourselves like a gotcha podcast. I want, I want to try to make our guests look as good as possible. Um, even an example is, bro, we, we cut about two to three minutes of shit from that episode.
00:29:18
Speaker 2: Horrific stuff. More, more than that. More than that. Like for what?
00:29:21
Speaker 4: Three to five minutes?
00:29:22
Speaker 3: Stiney, Stiney, horrific shit. Like you could not even believe, bro. Like crazy shit.
00:29:26
Speaker 4: So I'm not trying to get Steve canceled. So we, we, we happily cut it out.
00:29:31
Speaker 1: That kind of shit makes me wish like, I did. Like, Steve, like, when you say stuff like that, like, I did a lot with Steve, like, two, three years ago. It makes me feel like, damn, just you guys saying that, like, makes me feel like I should have, like, I wish I could have been there with him because I know the people that were there with him probably didn't try and do anything to, like, have his back or look out for him.
00:29:51
Speaker 4: They probably didn't. a little bit scared of him.
00:29:53
Speaker 3: Now they're not with him anymore, obviously. It was fucking, what's his name, Parker. But it wasn't their fault. Dude, someone like Steve, it's probably hard to say no. Parker had just joined the team.
00:30:09
Speaker 1: You need people like that.
00:30:10
Speaker 2: You need someone to tell you no.
00:30:12
Speaker 1: Especially if you're a little chaotic.
00:30:13
Speaker 2: That used to kind of be me. It was actually the opposite.
00:30:19
Speaker 4: When Steve would say, give me the bottle, I'll have another drink, it's his team handing him the bottle. And I think people also.
00:30:29
Speaker 1: What, they gave him the bottle? A few more hard R's the next minute.
00:30:32
Speaker 4: No, it was.
00:30:33
Speaker 1: No, they're like enabling it.
00:30:35
Speaker 4: People thought we gave him the bottle. And also, I think there's a narrative of like, why are you letting this guy drink on the bottle? Like, bro, I'm not his fucking dad. We're all grown people here. I don't know how much alcohol Steve can or can't handle. It just, yeah, it got out of hand unnecessarily as well because I was kind of on the let's just, I don't know how necessary publishing this is or even having him on because we know he's.
00:31:02
Speaker 2: A wild card.
00:31:02
Speaker 3: I think that was my fault that the episode went out.
00:31:06
Speaker 2: What wasn't it?
00:31:07
Speaker 3: Cause I was, cause I was like, this is kind of like an illustration and like, cause we got shit for putting the episode out too.
00:31:12
Speaker 2: And I think it was me that pushed her out.
00:31:14
Speaker 4: It definitely was. But whatever, whatever.
00:31:16
Speaker 1: No, no, no.
00:31:16
Speaker 3: Just because I thought, I thought we had made, we had made cuts to it. I thought it was like, I thought it was like a, like kind of like a illustration of like, I don't even know.
00:31:26
Speaker 2: He's back on YouTube and people watched it on YouTube. Yeah. And it was like his return to YouTube. And by the way, his return to YouTube has been great.
00:31:32
Speaker 3: And also I will say this, I don't know if you've seen this, but he's also in it in one of his like rambling tweets of the past. Like he puts out like maybe 600 tweets a day. He did, he did like apologize to you or like said he, I think we owe him another show. I think at some point we owe him another show. If we can do that, he's definitely like, like next time he's in like a really good place, like we should bring them on and give.
00:31:54
Speaker 2: Them and have them have another show. if possible. Logan doesn't like to accept.
00:31:59
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I don't know. Personally, I'm just trying to pretty much quit the podcast in general.
00:32:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that.
00:32:04
Speaker 4: You say it all the time. That would make it tough because if I quit, how would we have another show?
00:32:08
Speaker 2: We have two more shows coming up.
00:32:09
Speaker 4: You might be our last show.
00:32:10
Speaker 2: Really?
00:32:11
Speaker 3: No, we have the two shows during your Pokemon show.
00:32:13
Speaker 4: That's true. This is what always fucking happens. I quit and then Mike's like, dude, we have more fucking shows with our boy Dwarf Mamba.
00:32:20
Speaker 2: And Jake Paul.
00:32:21
Speaker 4: Jake Paul. I'm making him do it. Because we need to do two more shows. Regardless, God bless. God bless. I hope it works out for everyone. Yeah, I agree.
00:32:30
Speaker 1: I got mad love for Steve. I think just sometimes you got to have the right people around you.
00:32:35
Speaker 2: Does he now? Do you feel like he does now?
00:32:38
Speaker 1: Dude, we don't even talk that much. It's very hot and cold with everybody. Talk to Kyle sometimes, talk to Steve.
00:32:44
Speaker 4: Do you send him memes?
00:32:47
Speaker 2: No.
00:32:47
Speaker 3: No.
00:32:47
Speaker 4: Send him some memes, maybe.
00:32:49
Speaker 2: Reels?
00:32:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, we send each other reels and memes. We're not always like, how's your day going every day?
00:32:54
Speaker 2: No, but we talk. Let me tell you something, though.
00:32:57
Speaker 1: This whole situation has also made me realize, and I'm not just saying this, like, bro, it's fucking, it's insane. Like, you have people bickering back and forth at each other when everyone's made a lot of money, has a career, and it's just constant, like, complaining back and forth. You know what I'm saying?
00:33:13
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:33:13
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, like, we're all good. Everyone's going to be fine. It's like, this is a waste of time.
00:33:17
Speaker 2: There's greed involved. There's ego involved.
00:33:21
Speaker 3: I mean, the fucked up situation for, for me watching from the outside is like, he, it's always the person that like I would reach it. That's, he would be the first person I would reach out to and be like, yo, let's take a couple weeks. Let's take a week off content. I'm going to put you, I'm not wanting to meet this guy in Nashville at onsite and go spend five days.
00:33:36
Speaker 2: But I tried that last time.
00:33:39
Speaker 3: And he fucking posted 10 stories about me. And he bit the shit out of my fucking hand and it hurt, dude.
00:33:45
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:33:46
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying?
00:33:46
Speaker 3: Like I would always reach out to him the same way I would reach out to you if you were having a tough time to reach out to you.
00:33:50
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I did that and he fucking bit me, dude. And that sucks.
00:33:53
Speaker 3: And now it's like, now when I watch he has these crash outs and they're obviously substance related, which is something that I take very fucking seriously in people's health.
00:34:01
Speaker 2: Seriously.
00:34:02
Speaker 3: I don't feel as likely to reach out because I don't want to be fucking, I don't want to be hurt by it.
00:34:07
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:34:08
Speaker 1: No, it makes sense.
00:34:09
Speaker 2: So it kind of, I don't know.
00:34:10
Speaker 3: It just kind of sucks watching, but yes, obviously I hope everything works out and I am definitely here for him if he needs me.
00:34:17
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm sorry.
00:34:20
Speaker 4: I used to do it in my vlogs. It's the entrance for my theme song.
00:34:23
Speaker 2: Hey, yo, I'm sorry.
00:34:24
Speaker 4: I got two shirts up on WWE shop fanatics right now.
00:34:28
Speaker 2: I hate Logan Paul.
00:34:29
Speaker 4: Yes, I am the one behind it. You're going to monetize the haters. And still humble because, after all, I am your humble king. And I'm going to stay humble because I'm just that humble. You can grab my shirts and all WWE merch, hats, tees, replica title belts, superstar collections on WWE Shop and Fanatics. Get yours today. Back to the show. Is there a craziest Nelk Boy story that you have? Fuck, dude. I mean, I'm sure it gets probably crazy, right?
00:34:57
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot. Yeah. Like, you know, when you've been filming before and you're like, I can't believe this is real. Yeah. Like there's been times where I thought when we did the Amish video, we got a lot of backlash for that. It was the best video.
00:35:09
Speaker 2: It was awesome.
00:35:11
Speaker 4: What was the backlash?
00:35:12
Speaker 1: So we went and visited like this Amish family.
00:35:14
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:35:15
Speaker 1: And it's so they don't have electricity. Like they slaughter the fucking like pigs right behind you. Then they cook it in front of you. Like it's very different.
00:35:23
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:35:24
Speaker 1: And you have to be very sensitive or people will shit on you. So we did that. we were like, we can't sleep here. We went and slept at a hotel. And then the next day, this guy wanted to like leave the church. So we did their lifestyle and then come see our lifestyle.
00:35:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:35:40
Speaker 1: So we got on a jet, took the kid to live.
00:35:42
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.
00:35:43
Speaker 1: He's in his straw hat and he's in his overalls. I'm looking at it and I'm like, they gotta be fucking, you think they're fucking with you. Like this guy's not actually Amish. This can't be real.
00:35:52
Speaker 4: And then.
00:35:54
Speaker 1: It's completely real. And he like, drinks too much and then like throws up on sprinter and then it's just like fuck that was pretty fucking crazy.
00:36:06
Speaker 4: Damn did he have a good time at least yeah he.
00:36:09
Speaker 1: Had a great time I mean I don't know how he's doing now I don't know how happy his community is with him imagine he's like it is all over the internet.
00:36:18
Speaker 2: Yo imagine he went back and he's like they don't even know.
00:36:20
Speaker 1: You're right they might not even know that's a good point.
00:36:23
Speaker 3: No they would have heard about it But imagine he's completely excommunicated and living somewhere in rural Pennsylvania by himself now.
00:36:31
Speaker 4: He could have ruined his life. If I'm not mistaken, there's a tradition.
00:36:35
Speaker 1: He wanted to do it.
00:36:36
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is. It's called Rumspringa.
00:36:38
Speaker 1: I think it's where you get a month to decide what you want to do.
00:36:41
Speaker 4: When you're like 18, you're coming of age in the Amish community, you get to go out and experience the world.
00:36:47
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:36:47
Speaker 4: And then you decide if you want to be a part of the community still or if you want to go be, I don't know, just like a regular citizen.
00:36:52
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:36:53
Speaker 4: I mean, like, so what was the backlash? I don't understand. You guys got him too drunk?
00:36:59
Speaker 1: He fucking drank on his own.
00:37:00
Speaker 4: How old is he?
00:37:01
Speaker 1: He was like 24.
00:37:03
Speaker 2: Had he ever drank before?
00:37:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. He drank wine.
00:37:07
Speaker 2: And what were you giving him?
00:37:08
Speaker 1: No, he gave us wine. That's why I was also like, this can't be real. Because it was like, aren't you not supposed to drink? I guess there's some guys that get away with doing certain shit. But he, yeah, that was fucking crazy.
00:37:22
Speaker 4: Do you think you're someone who... Will you intentionally try to be in drama online to be a part of the conversation?
00:37:28
Speaker 1: Dude, not even fucking intentionally. I just get into that shit somehow.
00:37:31
Speaker 2: Why?
00:37:32
Speaker 1: Because I don't think about it.
00:37:33
Speaker 4: You just say shit.
00:37:35
Speaker 1: Yeah. I try and not do that anymore because it gives me so much fucking anxiety. But I woke up one morning, open X, see Nina Drama say something. Then I just respond to it, don't think much of it, and wake up an hour later and everyone's coming after me.
00:37:54
Speaker 2: What's going on with you and Nina Drama right now? We're good now. Wait, let me ask this. Didn't they make up on this show? Just one sec. What's going on with you and Nina Drama right now?
00:38:02
Speaker 1: Things have never been better.
00:38:03
Speaker 6: They made up on the show, Mike.
00:38:05
Speaker 2: What's that? They made up on the show.
00:38:06
Speaker 4: I know, I know.
00:38:07
Speaker 3: They FaceTimed at the White House.
00:38:09
Speaker 2: But what happened there again?
00:38:11
Speaker 1: I saw something out of context of her because she goes on, she streams with a lot of fighters and the internet makes it look like a relationship. And then there's all these comments like her boyfriend's the cameraman, by the way. And like.
00:38:26
Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of funny.
00:38:27
Speaker 1: And I woke up and said like a guy made a comment about it. Like I can't wait to go out with Nina. And like Armand got all defensive. And I just made a comment of it. And she responded really pissed. And then all these guys came after me.
00:38:41
Speaker 2: She responded really pissed.
00:38:42
Speaker 1: That was actually the meanest thing I think anyone's ever said.
00:38:44
Speaker 3: I remember when I saw that, and I was like, dude, because as much as you don't try, you talk shit constantly, Stiney. You are one of the biggest shit talkers. A hundred percent, dude. But keep in mind, you talk shit to me on this episode while I.
00:38:59
Speaker 2: Was saying something nice about you. You are.
00:39:02
Speaker 4: You're so easy to piss off. How could you be.
00:39:04
Speaker 2: How could you say that?
00:39:05
Speaker 1: You just are.
00:39:06
Speaker 2: No, I don't. But I pretend to get pissed off.
00:39:08
Speaker 1: You had to talk about 10 minutes to justify why you have this network and why you don't want to have a kid.
00:39:13
Speaker 3: No, but I'm not actually pissed off. I just pretend to be pissed off. But what I'm saying is, why do you think she responded.
00:39:20
Speaker 1: In that way? I'm serious. That was the meanest thing anyone's ever said to me.
00:39:24
Speaker 2: What did she say?
00:39:25
Speaker 1: Like, this kid's a talentless loser. He rides these coattails. Holy shit. holy shit why insane people really will say whatever to.
00:39:33
Speaker 4: Me would you consider yourself talentless no you have talent I think so yeah what's your talent I think I'm pretty funny I think networking is a talent I think a lot of people in this space struggle with being able to create relationships.
00:39:45
Speaker 1: Then my guy's fucking Mike is one of the best ones That's.
00:39:48
Speaker 4: My fucking hand, bro.
00:39:49
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that was a handshake.
00:39:50
Speaker 4: What is a hand?
00:39:51
Speaker 2: Well, usually we fist bump.
00:39:53
Speaker 4: I was here like this. Let me ask you something.
00:39:57
Speaker 1: Can I say one thing, though?
00:39:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, go.
00:39:58
Speaker 1: But like, back to your point, if you can put Krip Mac and Hunter Biden in the same room, like, you gotta have something.
00:40:03
Speaker 4: To do that.
00:40:04
Speaker 2: I thought that was very creative.
00:40:05
Speaker 1: No one's ever helped me in the past four years.
00:40:06
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, listen, listen, dude.
00:40:07
Speaker 1: On my personal stuff.
00:40:09
Speaker 2: There's one scoreboard to all this. And it's fucking views, dude.
00:40:13
Speaker 3: Or whatever, right? Like, unless you're a subjective artist, which is another thing. But who the fuck is, who's determining talent? Like, is Logan more talented than you?
00:40:22
Speaker 4: At what?
00:40:23
Speaker 2: Who the fuck determines that? Talented is subjective.
00:40:27
Speaker 3: Like, is that, are you a, is Frank a talented inventor?
00:40:30
Speaker 2: He has sales, so that makes him talented.
00:40:32
Speaker 3: But what is talent, what is the objective determination of talent?
00:40:38
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know, dude.
00:40:41
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying?
00:40:41
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:40:43
Speaker 1: I think, Logan, you're probably pretty talented in WWE.
00:40:46
Speaker 4: Thanks.
00:40:46
Speaker 1: Mike, you're a talented podcaster.
00:40:48
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:40:49
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I feel you. You know what clip I like of you? What's that show you guys did with the Nuck Boys? It's like Love Island. Or they changed the name.
00:40:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to change the name.
00:41:00
Speaker 1: Shit, No Love.
00:41:02
Speaker 4: It's called No Love?
00:41:03
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:41:05
Speaker 4: I really like the clip of you on that show. Where that guy tries to kiss you.
00:41:11
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
00:41:14
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:41:15
Speaker 4: No, you definitely do.
00:41:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
00:41:18
Speaker 2: Gabe, yeah.
00:41:18
Speaker 1: I knew that was obviously happening.
00:41:20
Speaker 2: You did know? Was it like a bit?
00:41:23
Speaker 1: No, I mean, yeah, it was a bit.
00:41:24
Speaker 2: It was a bit?
00:41:24
Speaker 4: Yes, it was a bit.
00:41:27
Speaker 2: Really? It looked real.
00:41:28
Speaker 1: That's good acting, right?
00:41:29
Speaker 4: It was good.
00:41:30
Speaker 1: He went in for the kiss.
00:41:31
Speaker 4: See, he has talent.
00:41:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.
00:41:33
Speaker 4: You have talent.
00:41:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:41:34
Speaker 4: I love that.
00:41:34
Speaker 1: I knew he was going to go for that.
00:41:35
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
00:41:37
Speaker 1: I was intoxicated and he's always, he's actually gay.
00:41:40
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah. He has the word gay in his name.
00:41:42
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:41:43
Speaker 2: Which is insane, dude.
00:41:44
Speaker 4: No, he's like.
00:41:45
Speaker 2: That's like really like.
00:41:46
Speaker 4: His name's Gabe?
00:41:47
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:41:47
Speaker 1: He's really gay.
00:41:48
Speaker 2: That's like the most gay name you could have, dude. Yeah. Like if you think about it.
00:41:52
Speaker 4: And he's also awesome.
00:41:53
Speaker 3: He is.
00:41:54
Speaker 2: He's great.
00:41:55
Speaker 1: But that dude has like texted me. trying like shit and then what are you talking about he's coming on to you no like back in the day I'd be like yo dude when I would fly and we'd travel be like you got my hotel and he'd like be like yeah if you want to come by mine have.
00:42:06
Speaker 4: You ever thought about just letting him hit no why.
00:42:12
Speaker 1: Because, why the fuck, I'm not gay, dude.
00:42:14
Speaker 3: My favorite clips of yours are the ones where there's like a misunderstanding about what's being said.
00:42:18
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:42:19
Speaker 2: Like the gated community. That was funny, that was funny. You grew up in a gay community.
00:42:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think I'm trolling there or do you think I know?
00:42:24
Speaker 2: No, that one was real, right? Yeah.
00:42:26
Speaker 4: That was with Rampage?
00:42:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't understand what he was saying.
00:42:29
Speaker 2: You grew up in a gay community.
00:42:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that all the time.
00:42:32
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:42:33
Speaker 1: From when people see me, they say that.
00:42:34
Speaker 3: And then there wasn't, wasn't there one too where you said something to a girl too and she misunderstood what you said?
00:42:41
Speaker 1: I think that's the same one. There was a girl in the clip.
00:42:43
Speaker 2: It was all in the same pod.
00:42:45
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:42:47
Speaker 2: Got it. Yeah. Yeah, those are my favorite clips. How are you and Andrew Schultz these days?
00:42:53
Speaker 1: There's no relationship. That situation really took me to another level probably as like a creator, but it was four years ago. Isn't that crazy people still talk about it? Four years ago, but that definitely sucked too. Dude, I'm so used to going through, like, these fucking drama. I mean, you're probably the goat of it, but, like.
00:43:14
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I'm the king of this shit.
00:43:15
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:43:16
Speaker 4: You just get used to it, bro.
00:43:16
Speaker 1: You just get used to it.
00:43:17
Speaker 2: You know what?
00:43:17
Speaker 1: Now I'm, like, numb to it.
00:43:19
Speaker 4: I noticed this having been doing this shit in and out of drama cycles for 10 years. The average length of a news cycle is about 36 hours. And I say that number specifically because if you, after 36 hours, bro, no one gives a fuck. On to the next random fucking thing that's going on. It used to be a little longer. It used to be like 72 hours. You just kind of sulk for three days and kind of be in the shit. Now it's like, bro, blink. It's tomorrow. Put your phone down. You're fine.
00:43:47
Speaker 1: You're a hundred percent right. And that's changed my entire outlook on all of it.
00:43:50
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
00:43:51
Speaker 1: Four years ago, that 72 hour period sucked. But nowadays, if you fuck up and do something, that shit's gone by tomorrow.
00:43:57
Speaker 4: Bro, put your phone down.
00:43:59
Speaker 2: Go outside. It's gone. Unless you respond. If you respond, the clock resets.
00:44:02
Speaker 4: That's a thing.
00:44:03
Speaker 2: So there's no point.
00:44:04
Speaker 3: Anybody that ever has commentary on anything that I do, there will never be a response.
00:44:09
Speaker 2: There's no response. As soon as you respond, bro, then you restart the clock.
00:44:14
Speaker 1: When Shoals did that, the problem with it is it created a domino effect because it went really, really viral. So when we would have Sean Strickland on and we had your brother on, they would go at me. Because it could go, a lot of clips would come from it.
00:44:26
Speaker 4: Also, Schultz is beloved. I forget what happened, but I think you were, in my opinion, I remember you being kind of like a little in the wrong. I forget what it is, but I feel like I remember that feeling.
00:44:36
Speaker 1: Bro, that was like my fucking third podcast I ever did.
00:44:38
Speaker 4: What was it again?
00:44:40
Speaker 2: They were just really underprepared.
00:44:41
Speaker 1: Steve will do it. He was there, didn't say a word, and then Kyle was there, didn't say anything. So I was like, all right, looks like I got to try and step up here.
00:44:47
Speaker 3: Well, no, but I think he was also, he was kind of picking on you a little bit, no?
00:44:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean- The way I look at it now, it's like, dude, you're really that upset about a fucking podcast? Like, who gives a shit, you know? Like, some idiots didn't conduct the interview that well. Like, who cares?
00:44:59
Speaker 2: I forget.
00:44:59
Speaker 4: I forget what happened.
00:45:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't remember.
00:45:01
Speaker 4: But, yeah.
00:45:01
Speaker 1: Which is, yeah. Your bro came on, and then, like, he went at me a little bit.
00:45:05
Speaker 2: What did he say?
00:45:06
Speaker 4: What did Jake say?
00:45:07
Speaker 1: He just, like, went at me, like, oh, you think you're this big shot, like, all that stuff.
00:45:12
Speaker 2: And then, oh, I remember that, too. Why do you say that? Bro.
00:45:16
Speaker 1: I don't fucking know. I was like, dude, Jake, you've got to do the same shit.
00:45:18
Speaker 2: But didn't he kind of get flamed for that one?
00:45:20
Speaker 1: Because I said, you do the same fucking thing. Calling out Canelo after you fight Nate Robinson, it's the same shit.
00:45:26
Speaker 2: He did then fight Anthony Joshua.
00:45:27
Speaker 1: Oh, your brother deserves way more respect. He hasn't gotten enough respect for that.
00:45:31
Speaker 3: It's funny, because when he was calling out Canelo, when he was calling out Canelo that whole time, I was talking shit. I was like, all right, dude, cut the shit, okay? You fought Mike Tyson, he was 60, blah, blah. Then he fought fucking Anthony Joshua, which, by the way, is.
00:45:47
Speaker 2: A harder fight than Canelo. Right?
00:45:50
Speaker 1: Isn't that the right way to put that?
00:45:53
Speaker 2: Hold on.
00:45:54
Speaker 3: I need Logan to calculate this. Didn't he go technically above Canelo?
00:45:59
Speaker 4: Yeah, 100%.
00:46:00
Speaker 1: Right?
00:46:00
Speaker 2: Like, there's no other way to look at that. He's a massive fucking.
00:46:03
Speaker 1: Let's just put it like this. Canelo cannot break Jake's jaw.
00:46:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
00:46:06
Speaker 2: Canelo cannot break his jaw. I was wrong.
00:46:08
Speaker 3: When we do that podcast eight shows from now when we're still doing the show in Puerto Rico and I do.
00:46:13
Speaker 2: I have to apologize to your brother.
00:46:14
Speaker 4: You gotta apologize.
00:46:15
Speaker 2: Because I was with you. I was like, dude, he's calling out Canelo. You're right.
00:46:17
Speaker 4: What the fuck?
00:46:18
Speaker 1: Well, this is a problem. I think it's funny because people... I actually really like this.
00:46:23
Speaker 4: It's good.
00:46:24
Speaker 1: People love to fucking hate on your brother. The moment he does something... Really insane and cool, which this was. No one gives a fuck. Instead of giving him his flowers and shit, which he deserves. Because I remember watching that. You see Anthony Joshua. He's a big motherfucker, bro.
00:46:39
Speaker 4: He's fucking massive.
00:46:40
Speaker 2: He's huge.
00:46:41
Speaker 1: You've got to be crazy to get in the ring with that guy, especially for that undersized.
00:46:44
Speaker 4: Insane.
00:46:45
Speaker 1: But no one wants to give him his flowers when he does something right.
00:46:47
Speaker 2: That's not true.
00:46:49
Speaker 3: The vocal majority of the internet is either morons or.
00:46:57
Speaker 2: 16-year-olds or 14-year-olds. That is the vocal majority, okay? On the internet.
00:47:03
Speaker 3: The majority of the world, normal people, people like us who can have a conversation, who leave their basements, who have lives, every single one of those persons would have gone up to Jake Paul and said, yo, what you just did was fucking heroic.
00:47:16
Speaker 4: How much hate do you get in person, in real life?
00:47:18
Speaker 2: Never, never.
00:47:19
Speaker 4: It doesn't happen, right? Isn't that weird?
00:47:21
Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever happened.
00:47:22
Speaker 4: So weird.
00:47:22
Speaker 2: Because those people don't leave their house and a lot of them are bots. They're Russian bots. But I also think like, they're not even real people.
00:47:28
Speaker 1: Like when people shit on me, they know it's going to like, if someone comments on a TikTok or some shit, it's going to get a lot of engagement. So it's like kind of trendy and fun to like talk shit or play into the jokes. But in person, it's always been.
00:47:40
Speaker 4: You got to make it, you got to make it work for you. That's what I do. I make it, I make it serve me.
00:47:45
Speaker 1: You double down as the villain.
00:47:47
Speaker 4: I mean, WWE makes it, fucking awesome and easy. It is a perfect job for me. I say job, but it's like, yeah, it's a perfect lifestyle for me because I don't got to fucking, you know, try to tell people how nice of a guy I am. I can just lean into being like the heel, which is nice.
00:48:06
Speaker 2: But you have to do that.
00:48:07
Speaker 3: Like for me, when everybody started the 41 Girl Family, started a family thing, my first thing I should have done was become a DJ.
00:48:11
Speaker 2: Immediately.
00:48:13
Speaker 4: Immediately.
00:48:14
Speaker 2: Immediately. God damn.
00:48:16
Speaker 4: You don't have that in you.
00:48:16
Speaker 3: And for you, bro, you should have gone straight to the fucking wall, put the little hat on, hand on the wall, open the synagogue in Brooklyn, play into the character.
00:48:26
Speaker 1: No, those are different. That situation is a little more serious than you starting a family. But yeah.
00:48:31
Speaker 4: That is a little more serious. Yeah.
00:48:34
Speaker 1: You should have responded. Now you got to double down. It's just like, unk, dude.
00:48:37
Speaker 4: You could be DJ unk. I feel like that has a.
00:48:39
Speaker 2: Dunk.
00:48:41
Speaker 4: Or just unk.
00:48:42
Speaker 3: The fucked up thing about it is I would like to because I do love music.
00:48:45
Speaker 2: I'm a huge music guy.
00:48:46
Speaker 1: I think you should start your DJ era, dude. You're already moving like a 22-year-old chick in LA.
00:48:51
Speaker 3: Well, it is unannounced, but I did just start a partnership with a Vegas nightlife group.
00:49:01
Speaker 1: There you go, bro. That's why you're putting in these hours.
00:49:03
Speaker 3: Wynn Encore XS reopening November 8th, and Stiney will be there with me.
00:49:08
Speaker 2: So if you're watching this, oh, yeah. Are you?
00:49:10
Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
00:49:10
Speaker 1: Well, I'll go support Mike.
00:49:13
Speaker 2: And by the way, not only getting paid, but we'll also have a plane.
00:49:17
Speaker 4: Wow.
00:49:18
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:49:18
Speaker 2: It's firing up. Are you in Mile High Club?
00:49:21
Speaker 3: No.
00:49:22
Speaker 2: It's tiny.
00:49:22
Speaker 1: I know.
00:49:23
Speaker 2: I'm actually not either.
00:49:23
Speaker 1: Well, dude, I don't fly.
00:49:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not either.
00:49:25
Speaker 4: That shocks me.
00:49:26
Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
00:49:26
Speaker 1: You got to fly private to do that. I don't fly private that much. A, you don't have to.
00:49:31
Speaker 4: And B.
00:49:32
Speaker 1: Have you done it the private way or the.
00:49:34
Speaker 4: I have a wife dog.
00:49:35
Speaker 2: Okay.
00:49:35
Speaker 4: Fair enough. Yeah, but you should think about it.
00:49:37
Speaker 3: Okay.
00:49:37
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:49:38
Speaker 1: I'll keep that in mind.
00:49:39
Speaker 5: Why?
00:49:39
Speaker 1: What does that do for you? Just like a bucket list thing.
00:49:42
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Like, just like, like, I don't know. I feel like it'd be good for you.
00:49:46
Speaker 1: To join the mile high club. Yeah.
00:49:47
Speaker 4: And you as well.
00:49:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go. I'll do it. What do you think about Shane Gillis calling every girl that goes to the gym a whore?
00:49:53
Speaker 1: That was a marketing move, wasn't it?
00:49:57
Speaker 2: Delivered that horribly.
00:49:58
Speaker 5: Huh?
00:49:59
Speaker 2: What do you think about Shane Gillis calling every girl that goes to the gym a whore?
00:50:03
Speaker 4: Nah, this is, this is, dude, honestly, this is one of those things where, Just shut the fuck up, bro.
00:50:11
Speaker 2: Want the people with the feedback.
00:50:12
Speaker 4: Just shut the fuck up.
00:50:13
Speaker 2: Really?
00:50:14
Speaker 1: Wait, so you agree with Shane?
00:50:15
Speaker 2: No, but who gives a fuck?
00:50:17
Speaker 4: Agree, disagree.
00:50:17
Speaker 2: It's not about agreeing. It's a fucking joke. Who gives a fuck?
00:50:20
Speaker 4: It's a fucking joke. Even if it's not, I wouldn't say.
00:50:22
Speaker 1: I didn't take it that serious, but I didn't think it was that funny of a comment.
00:50:26
Speaker 4: Who cares? The joke was.
00:50:28
Speaker 4: You'll see him in the background of the videos that the girls are making. He's the guy creeping on the girls wearing the tight clothes. I thought it was a funny joke regardless. He made an attempt, whether you think it's funny or not, in the context of Saturday Night Live, it's a comedy routine. Who gives a fuck? Shit's not that serious, bro.
00:50:45
Speaker 3: If someone tells a joke on a show, I'm watching it, I don't like it. I'll sometimes, you know, just go to like the next channel. And just like see what else is on. Like I don't immediately, like even with like the Pete Davidson thing.
00:51:00
Speaker 2: No, but even with the Pete Davidson.
00:51:01
Speaker 3: Thing, with the whole like, you know, these girls, they're creators, I don't get it. You know, and he said girls too many times. And then every girl posted a video like, hey Pete.
00:51:13
Speaker 2: Hey Pete. I'm a girl.
00:51:18
Speaker 3: Like what is this shit who get now now if you're if you're a creator and you see a chance to respond for and you get views and make money.
00:51:27
Speaker 2: Off it then go for it then of course.
00:51:29
Speaker 3: Respond to Pete Davidson but if you're just a person sitting at home and you have no followers and you're like tweeting like shame on Shane Gillis for what he said about girls who are whores at.
00:51:40
Speaker 1: The gym dude he fucking says some goes on a massive platform says something controversial and then he releases a show like That was true.
00:51:47
Speaker 2: That's it. Does he have a show coming out?
00:51:49
Speaker 1: Yes, of course.
00:51:49
Speaker 2: Brilliant.
00:51:51
Speaker 4: It's interesting too, because Shane is someone who's like beloved.
00:51:57
Speaker 2: He's like a Schultz. By half.
00:51:59
Speaker 4: He's like a.
00:52:01
Speaker 2: I don't think he's like universally loved.
00:52:02
Speaker 4: I think before this weird joke cancellation thing that's taking place, I think he was more like mostly beloved.
00:52:09
Speaker 2: But he's still.
00:52:10
Speaker 4: Just as beloved. I think all the noise... No, no, no, no. Still and probably more because even me, for example, I see this shit, I'm like, bro, shut the fuck up!
00:52:18
Speaker 2: Shut up!
00:52:19
Speaker 4: It's part of the reason why I do like... I feel just so good knowing I've reached a place where it doesn't fucking matter what you think about me, about anything.
00:52:28
Speaker 2: I don't care. You're entitled to your opinion.
00:52:30
Speaker 4: God bless you. Run that shit. Join your little community. Express yourselves. Connect with people who think like you. And I'm going to do the same. You do you.
00:52:39
Speaker 2: I do me.
00:52:40
Speaker 4: Life goes on. None of this shit matters. We're floating particles of. stardust in the middle of space. What about the hypocritical nature of the girls mad at Sidney Sweeney for showing her body? Don't even fucking get me started on that shit! Don't even fucking get me started! Don't... Wait, I don't get it.
00:52:56
Speaker 1: Girls went at Sidney?
00:52:58
Speaker 3: Well, no, so Sidney Sweeney does the ad, right? It's not supposed to be empowering?
00:53:02
Speaker 4: Right.
00:53:02
Speaker 3: You would think, right? But she does these ads with very little clothing on. And the majority of women online are like.
00:53:07
Speaker 2: Put on some fucking clothes. Put on some clothes. But then as soon as a guy says, girls, when you go to the gym, put on some clothes, all the girls are mad at that now.
00:53:16
Speaker 1: Well, dude, it's because she's hot.
00:53:17
Speaker 2: No shit, bro.
00:53:19
Speaker 1: Girls love to hate on girls.
00:53:20
Speaker 4: Dude, it's insane. If I'm not going to say a body shape or a color of a body.
00:53:25
Speaker 2: I'll say it.
00:53:26
Speaker 1: If she was out of shape and fat, girls would love her.
00:53:29
Speaker 2: Yes. No, you're right. You're right.
00:53:31
Speaker 4: She'd be praised. Honestly, she would be a hero.
00:53:34
Speaker 1: She's so confident, all that shit. But if Sydney does it. She's good looking. We live in a brainless, mindless monkey with symbol society. I've given up trying to impress everyone, bro. Do you even pay attention when people talk about you online anymore?
00:53:48
Speaker 2: Depends on the person, probably.
00:53:50
Speaker 4: No, it's more of, I will say this. For me, it's more of, is this an opinion thing? Um, or are you saying something that could potentially be damaging? That is untrue. Like I, I do take that a little more serious. Um, people hop on some stupid ass narratives. For example, example, prime, uh, there was the, the narrative about prime having PFAS forever chemicals in it, completely unfounded, completely untrue. That's important to litigate and defeat in court because it's just a, unfounded narrative and unfortunately people people still to this day think that's true because it was a headline dude.
00:54:29
Speaker 1: I want to know how much money you spent on lawyer fees oh my god dude that's a.
00:54:34
Speaker 2: Great fucking probably more money than you and i have made yeah.
00:54:37
Speaker 1: You think it's over 10 million around.
00:54:39
Speaker 4: There maybe not uh five million more than that yeah yeah.
00:54:47
Speaker 1: You just like to sue people.
00:54:49
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if they're lying and I can win, which they always are lying and I can always win.
00:54:53
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say who, but you see people that you start to sue and then they really back on what they said real quick.
00:54:58
Speaker 2: Well, that prime one was an example. That's why.
00:55:03
Speaker 4: We did a lawsuit together, actually. We won. It was a federal lawsuit. That's Frankie over there. Massive, massive victory. But he said, it's like, court is the only place where you can get someone that you don't like And who doesn't like you to do something they don't want to do. Because the truth matters. And, dude, the haters, above all, haters hate the truth. My haters, they fucking, they spaz. They can't stand it. And to me, truth matters. And being litigious is a way to get that truth out there. And so, for me, it's worked. People watch what they say. We're actually, I'm drawing up a lawsuit right now. I hope you're doing it. As we speak. Yeah, my lawyers are.
00:55:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
00:55:46
Speaker 4: It'll be out there because.
00:55:47
Speaker 2: It's like- It's not for me, right?
00:55:49
Speaker 4: No, it's not for you. You're fine. Nah, just like, bro, shut the fuck up. I got basically endless resources to hold people accountable for bullshit that comes out of their mouth. You could try and see what happens, but I'm going to run your fucking pockets.
00:55:59
Speaker 2: My favorite part of that.
00:56:00
Speaker 3: Whole thing with like the PFA thing was like, it was like all the messaging was like jammed in between like him saying.
00:56:06
Speaker 2: Like, vampires raped me and my brother.
00:56:09
Speaker 3: And like all of this nonsense and people somehow like still believed it enough to run with the PFA narrative.
00:56:16
Speaker 4: No, it's just, it's bad, bro. And like there's a lot of narratives about me that get clicks and headlines. And I encourage people to get their clicks and get their headline. Just make sure it's true. Because if it's not true, which most of it's... It's damaging.
00:56:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:56:32
Speaker 1: Well, I think another part of that is like now when you peak YouTube, you had real fucking sponsors, like legit brands. Nowadays, you can have like a gambling sponsor and you can say whatever the fuck you want. They're not going anywhere.
00:56:44
Speaker 2: Steve promoted his recent gambling sponsor in blackface.
00:56:47
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:56:48
Speaker 1: Like you could do whatever you want and still have that sponsor. That's going to change. I think a lot of things, especially with streamers and like content. I think like cuff them. I look at, I don't know if you pay attention to him, but like who cuff them.
00:56:59
Speaker 2: He's a streamer.
00:57:00
Speaker 1: And he's actually really funny.
00:57:02
Speaker 2: He actually is very funny.
00:57:03
Speaker 1: But he can say whatever the fuck he wants because he has a gambling sponsor that isn't going anywhere.
00:57:08
Speaker 4: I'm interested to see if this is true because it is now, but I'm interested to see if it's true when a Democrat gets elected and the pendulum swings back to More like a liberal mentality.
00:57:21
Speaker 3: I don't know why I feel like the swings are going to be more shallow. Really? There's a lot of people who believe that we're going full swing, even deeper than the first woke. But I don't think we ever go back to like you can't say you're going gay for a month.
00:57:38
Speaker 2: I don't think we're going back there.
00:57:39
Speaker 1: I just don't think that that's possible. I think it's going to go back there. I think it will.
00:57:43
Speaker 4: I think so too.
00:57:44
Speaker 1: People look at it as things are getting too out of hand.
00:57:46
Speaker 4: I think everything is getting just so dramatic. It's like things are becoming unfortunately black and white for people because it's just easy for our monkey symbol brains to comprehend.
00:57:59
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:58:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:58:00
Speaker 3: But the problem, but the difference the first time was when people would start a war against you online and you would, and then you would try to like defend yourself against it. You were doing it in a, in an attempt to not get canceled. Now we know that cancellation is not, there's no such thing.
00:58:13
Speaker 2: That's not real. You can't get canceled.
00:58:15
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
00:58:16
Speaker 1: That's right now. That's why it's a problem too.
00:58:18
Speaker 4: That's right now.
00:58:18
Speaker 1: Because people will do anything now.
00:58:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I also don't like.
00:58:22
Speaker 4: Right.
00:58:23
Speaker 3: Well, no, it's okay if you want to do that, but I'm like aware enough to just be like, okay, this person's an idiot.
00:58:29
Speaker 2: There's a lot of the world.
00:58:30
Speaker 1: Most people don't know what's real and what's not.
00:58:32
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:58:32
Speaker 3: You want to ask him some questions regarding something having to do with numbers or something like that that you usually do for shows to make money?
00:58:39
Speaker 2: Numbers? Yeah, like you ask him something and you get paid for it as a result of it. Oh, yeah. Oh, dude.
00:58:44
Speaker 4: Okay, so have you been following the polymarkets at all?
00:58:48
Speaker 3: No.
00:58:48
Speaker 4: You seem like the person that asked this question about presidential runs. So I'm going to ask you. I'm on polymarket. Who will announce the presidential run before 2027?
00:58:59
Speaker 2: Pete Buttigieg.
00:58:59
Speaker 4: Buttigieg, right? Buttigieg?
00:59:03
Speaker 1: Buttigieg?
00:59:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude. Buttigieg.
00:59:07
Speaker 2: Pete Buttigieg, 36%.
00:59:10
Speaker 4: Rahm Emanuel, 24%. Ron DeSantis, 15%. Gavin Newsom, 14%. AOC, 14%.
00:59:18
Speaker 2: All right, that's enough. Who do you got?
00:59:22
Speaker 1: Like who would I bet on?
00:59:24
Speaker 4: I don't know.
00:59:24
Speaker 2: What's the question again? Who would you trade on?
00:59:25
Speaker 4: Who would you put your money on?
00:59:26
Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom.
00:59:27
Speaker 2: Gavin?
00:59:27
Speaker 4: You're saying Gavin?
00:59:28
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's your best payout probably. And it's a higher payout.
00:59:33
Speaker 4: Is this really the market we want to do for Stein?
00:59:35
Speaker 2: That's what he said. No, why?
00:59:37
Speaker 4: What do you mean?
00:59:38
Speaker 2: That's a good one. No, yeah. We got to do that one?
00:59:43
Speaker 4: Dude, Gavin Newsom threw some shade at my brother for going on Air Force One. Did he?
00:59:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:59:49
Speaker 1: Just the other day?
00:59:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, he tweeted about my brother.
00:59:55
Speaker 4: Like taxpayer money being put to good use or something super sarcastically.
00:59:58
Speaker 1: That's the other thing about politics is let me tell you something. But cameras off, I guarantee you Gavin Newsom and Trump would be best friends.
01:00:04
Speaker 4: Think so?
01:00:04
Speaker 1: They're all the fucking same, dude. I think so.
01:00:08
Speaker 2: I don't know that I necessarily disagree with that.
01:00:09
Speaker 1: I think every politician's the same, and when the cameras come on, it's, all right, how can I get a bigger audience? How can I make more money and have more influence?
01:00:16
Speaker 2: They both kind of have a similar vibe almost.
01:00:17
Speaker 1: They're both kind of bros, dude.
01:00:20
Speaker 2: Newsom, who, Newsom mogs, though.
01:00:23
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:00:23
Speaker 2: Out of those two.
01:00:24
Speaker 1: Instead of some hogs.
01:00:25
Speaker 3: No, yeah.
01:00:26
Speaker 1: Dude, come on.
01:00:27
Speaker 4: Stay home, bro.
01:00:28
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
01:00:30
Speaker 2: What do you mean me saying that? It's like 10 million views, bro. Last time I did it, it went crazy.
01:00:37
Speaker 4: That's it, bro.
01:00:38
Speaker 2: That's the market we want for Stiney, bro.
01:00:39
Speaker 4: That's the best one. Aliens. Aliens. Are they coming? 6% on Polymarket.
01:00:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would take that. 6% yes. 6% they'll be announced by the end of the year.
01:00:47
Speaker 2: Oh, by the end of the year?
01:00:48
Speaker 1: I'd still go yes.
01:00:50
Speaker 4: I would too, right?
01:00:51
Speaker 2: That's a fun sweat too.
01:00:54
Speaker 1: Cause you want aliens to come. So you get paid too. Yeah.
01:00:58
Speaker 2: But then what if, what if you pay and then die? You get paid and then die.
01:01:02
Speaker 1: Then that would be honest.
01:01:03
Speaker 2: They're not coming here to be nice. Okay.
01:01:06
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:01:06
Speaker 1: That's probably true.
01:01:06
Speaker 4: Maybe, maybe it's, I view it like the equivalent of us, uh, going into a, uh, going to see wild gorillas in like Uganda.
01:01:17
Speaker 2: It's racist.
01:01:18
Speaker 4: Like we're just, we're just there in the mountains observing the gorillas and their habitat. Like, we're not there to hurt the gorillas. No, but once you enter their habitat, you are. They're going to think that and get defensive. Yeah, so then if we get aggressive, the aliens will cook us.
01:01:30
Speaker 2: Yes.
01:01:31
Speaker 4: Can't get aggressive.
01:01:32
Speaker 3: There's a Twilight Zone episode about that called What to Serve Man.
01:01:35
Speaker 2: You should watch it.
01:01:38
Speaker 4: I love that. All right, we got to get out of here, bro. Mike's taking me to the game.
01:01:41
Speaker 2: Big game.
01:01:42
Speaker 1: Dude, have fun.
01:01:42
Speaker 4: Thanks, bro.
01:01:43
Speaker 2: Thanks.
01:01:44
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having me.
01:01:45
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
01:01:45
Speaker 3: Thank you for coming on. And now he's been on your show, so now you get to ask him.
01:01:51
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
01:01:51
Speaker 1: You've got to come chop it up with me.
01:01:53
Speaker 4: I'm not opposed.
01:01:54
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:01:54
Speaker 4: I'm definitely not opposed.
01:01:54
Speaker 2: It'll be really good.
01:01:55
Speaker 4: I think so. I think it'll be good.
01:01:57
Speaker 2: Put him face-to-face with someone weird.
01:01:58
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd want to do that.
01:02:00
Speaker 4: I'll send you some names. Who would it be?
01:02:02
Speaker 1: I have to think about it. I have to think about it.
01:02:05
Speaker 4: That could be fun.
01:02:06
Speaker 2: Pete Buttigieg. That would be fun.
01:02:08
Speaker 5: All right.
01:02:08
Speaker 4: Hey, Stiney, ladies and gentlemen. There's only gentlemen.
01:02:10
Speaker 2: Thanks, guys.
01:02:11
Speaker 4: There's only gentlemen.
01:02:11
Speaker 1: Thank you.
01:02:12
Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you, guys, for watching. This has been another episode. We'll see you next week.
01:02:15
Speaker 3: Peace.