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Speaker 1: Would you consider a KSI fight?
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Speaker 2: KSI has never fought anyone good.
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Speaker 1: I'm probably laughing because he's laughing.
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Speaker 3: Why?
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Speaker 1: Because he fought you. Let's address the elephant in a room. You got your ass kicked. You let all of us down, including Drake. Can we start this episode over?
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Speaker 4: Bro.
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Speaker 1: Me versus Seth Rollins at WrestleMania. Who is Seth Rollins?
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Speaker 2: Because he sounds like a f * * * ing d.
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Speaker 1: * * *.
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Speaker 4: He was the highest, biggest promoter of Prime in the history. Don't give me anything. I'm fired up!
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Speaker 1: Take Prime!
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Speaker 5: Jake, are you ready?
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Speaker 1: I'm always ready. We'll see. No way. Yes.
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Speaker 5: A job and a life, but no, he doesn't listen. Because he is a hobo. He lives in a shopping cart and a backpack.
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Speaker 1: Is his roof. Yo, classic. Welcome back to Impulsive, the number one podcast in the world. Thank you guys for listening, watching, viewing, and subscribing.
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Speaker 5: What you just heard was the first ever music video song that Jake and I made as 10 and 11 year old YouTubers.
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Speaker 1: It was a song called Jake is a Hobo. Banger. Banger. Banger. You have to put the music video up too. You had a music video? Bro. And he's like playing the piano. It was gnarly.
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Speaker 5: Jake's dressed in hobo outfit eating his thumb. I'm like in the bushes.
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Speaker 3: Out of all the songs the Pauls have ever released, that is my favorite by a long shot.
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Speaker 5: We have been at this for a while. Jake, I found my old MacBook from 2007, dude.
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Speaker 1: And all the videos are on it. Been having a field day. You wouldn't believe the content that we made. No way.
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Speaker 5: And I'm obviously two years older than you, so I'm wondering how much of it you remember.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember Scarred?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, I remember these videos are on a Google Drive, though. Are they? Yeah. Yeah, I have the Google Drive. Oh, no way. But it's the unreleased random ones that are sometimes the funniest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the outtakes.
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Speaker 5: Seeing how I was as a child in the bloopers is so much more entertaining to me than... just watching the actual shitty content that we made back then.
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Speaker 1: Cause it was pretty, we were hilarious in those.
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Speaker 4: That song's radio ready. I heard that song last night, dude. And we had to sit on it all night to play it for the podcast today. And I want, dude, I could listen to that song at the gym. I could play that song for a.
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Speaker 1: Girl on a date. Like MTV made the Seamus one. Yeah. Yeah. Next level.
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Speaker 4: I want to, I want to set the stage beyond just being in Puerto Rico. You don't give a shit about this show anymore.
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Speaker 1: Let's be honest.
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Speaker 4: Even if you did, it's like going, it's like, it's like bands that hate each other that have to get on stage and play for the audience. Like, yo, let's do our hits. So we don't, we don't even fucking like each other. That's not true.
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Speaker 1: I like Mike. George.
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Speaker 5: You don't say.
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Speaker 1: People are like, how do you let them treat you like that? I go, on camera is a blessing.
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Speaker 3: You should be behind the fucking scenes.
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Speaker 4: George is dancing on my counters all morning with his dick out. First of all, my dick was not out.
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Speaker 1: You should see behind the scenes. I hope they see behind the scenes. That mic sounds so bad. Jake, I'm nervous for this episode. When they say, how do you let them Put up with that shit or whatever. Just say money. Oh, that is. That is. That is the reason. The money's not even that good, bro. It's fucking pathetic, to be honest. It's so true. It's really bad. I found out what Nelk makes, and I was like, I got to switch teams, bro. That part's not true. What, Bob Menry? Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob. Bob Menry. Can we get the.
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Speaker 1: Jake, I'm nervous for this episode. Why? I'll tell you why.
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Speaker 5: You're our number one most recurring guest, and I think this may be the most pivotal episode featuring Jake Paul we've ever had. I mean, let's address the elephant in a room. You just beat Tommy Fury.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, 7-0. It's honestly really good. Really good. Going to the.
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Speaker 2: Amalfi Coast tomorrow to celebrate with a yacht.
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Speaker 1: Great.
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Speaker 5: No, so the opposite happened. No, you had a pretty difficult loss to Tommy Fury. a member of the Fury family this past weekend, and we were able to snag you to get you on this episode to talk about just how you're feeling.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was you. It was you. In Saudi Arabia, it was you. Split decision, loss. Tough call. I lost. Only by a couple points, but, you know, it happened.
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Speaker 5: And I'm here to ask you, you know, brother to brother, I know we've been talking and going through about how you're feeling.
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Speaker 1: About what? You got your ass kicked. About what?
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Speaker 6: Whoa.
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Speaker 1: About what? Dude, Tommy fucks you up, bro.
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Speaker 3: It's me. I'm in like shooting range and I feel like I still got a strong right, brother.
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Speaker 1: He does.
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Speaker 4: He does.
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Speaker 1: Watch out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm feeling great. Yeah. Honestly. Well, that's it. Honestly, that's it. So I was thinking about this. I was thinking about it today.
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Speaker 2: Like, damn, I feel like people probably get like really, really sad over a loss. But I mean, it just doesn't feel.
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Speaker 1: Like a loss.
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Speaker 5: I was reading some comments on the podcast that we put out on BS with Jake Paul. And people seem to be really supportive because you're handling it so well.
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Speaker 1: And truthfully, one of the comments said this. I'll just reiterate it.
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Speaker 5: But the only place that it really seems like you lost is on your boxing record.
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Speaker 1: 100%. This is a gift from the universe.
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Speaker 2: But if we're talking about in terms of life and my personal growth as a human being, then this is a gift from the universe.
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Speaker 5: This is a win.
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Speaker 2: Because I want to be happy and love myself and have eternal confidence regardless of any situation. And this put me so many steps closer to that because I thought my identity lied so much in winning and beating everyone and being undefeated and being some badass tough person who never loses. I'm this, I'm that, boom, making all this money. And after I lost, I was like, you know what? None of that's like what actually makes me awesome. My identity is just who I am, and that's all I need to be.
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Speaker 1: And that's good enough. That was nice. But now that the identity politics are over, I got to ask you this question, Jake. What the fuck happened, bro? You let all of us fucking down, including Drake. What happened, bro?
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Speaker 4: I appreciate you, and I know a lot of learning lessons are tied to our failures and losses. Look at this fucking kid. The only reason he's here right now is because how many times he fucked up. But I need to know right now what went wrong, bro.
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Speaker 1: Everything. Tommy didn't win the fight. I lost it.
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Speaker 2: I was not good. I was not on my A game. I didn't implement the game plan. My legs were weak going into the fight. I think I cut the weight improperly in such like a seven week camp. Normally we do like 12 week camps because I'm behind the eight ball. I got to catch up to these guys. I got to be extra sharp. We squeezed in this camp. I mean, bro, I don't even want to sit here and make excuses. Like I just, I lost the fight. I wasn't at my best and it's, it's that simple.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like kind of relieved now in the next fight? You're like, you got the loss out of the way. So it's like, there's no more like perfect record. So you could just go in being a fighter. Yeah, no, a hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: I think the pressure, you know, a little bit of pressure is good, but I think I had a lot, a lot, a lot of pressure and the stakes just kept on getting higher and higher after each fight. So yeah, now there's definitely like more relaxation going into it. And a lot of things played a factor, man. Like even now, even getting a point deducted, like right away in the first round, I'm like, damn, now I'm already down another round.
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Speaker 1: Sorry. Now I got to fight even harder. I think it was two or three.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's what I meant in the beginning. Oh, the first. Okay. Got it. In the beginning of the fight.
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Speaker 2: And, um, it's like, damn, like now I'm already, but down another round and it's only like the third or fourth round. So now I have to fight even harder to gain that round back. And then you start making sloppy mistakes and stuff. But, Dude, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It's the hardest sport in the world, and you have to have a peak moment.
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Speaker 2: You're only able to show up in that one moment on that one night, and if you're not feeling good, if you're not feeling in your flow state, if your legs are weak, whatever you're feeling, it's just not there.
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Speaker 1: You can't really fake it.
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Speaker 5: It's part of the reason I have so much respect for fighters because there is no excuse for you to not be at 100% when you walk into that ring in a world where excuses run rampant.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: If you don't wake up on the day and feel 100%, too bad.
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Speaker 1: You still got to fight.
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Speaker 5: You still got to back your words up and show up at 100%. And good luck if you're feeling like shit that day. If you wake up that morning and sneeze three times.
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Speaker 4: That still will forever be the best thing I've ever heard.
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Speaker 1: I did not sneeze three times. Three times. Fuck it. That was hilarious. Did that happen to you?
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Speaker 5: No, no.
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Speaker 3: I will say, I told Bell when I saw you on TV when you were coming out of the locker room, I go, he's not in it right now.
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Speaker 1: I was flat. Very, very flat.
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Speaker 4: When me and him connected, I want to talk tactically about the fight quite a bit or for a little bit. But when we connected after the fight, I personally have always looked at you as a fighter. you are a fighter and I, and I, and a real fucking fighter. And I, and I look at KSI in a similar department. I want to, and I want to talk about that down the line, but when you went out there and I, and I watched that fight and I downloaded it and digested it. When I, when I thought to myself, what had just happened, it looked to me like you were a fighter. And Tommy Fury was a little bit of a better boxer.
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Speaker 1: He's a boxer.
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Speaker 4: And I want to ask you, on your good day, on your perfect day, wake up, feel great, legs feel great, in the zone, are you as good of a boxer as Tommy Fury?
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Speaker 2: Fury is yeah 100% I beat him I believe like nine eight to nine times out of ten and this just happened to be one of those times um and it is what it is he had a great performance by the way.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say he stepped up to the plate.
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Speaker 5: I was gonna say I you talked about pressure earlier and you did have a lot of pressure but Guess who else.
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Speaker 1: Had a ton of fucking pressure? He had more Tommy Fury, dude.
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Speaker 5: And, and, and, and that type of pressure can crack someone when, when he was walking out, you know, I wasn't sure if I saw him, I don't know, quivering a little bit or, or, or if he was going to step up to the plate and, and, and, and he did step up to the plate and, I got to be honest, although I talk shit about him, and I'll probably continue to, the guy was a warrior that night, and he stepped up to the plate in a big fucking way, big bullocks on that guy. He made his family proud, and I said it before, but congrats to the Furies, even though you beat my little brother.
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Speaker 1: No, congrats to them, bro.
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Speaker 2: Overnight superstar made the kid a millionaire, and I don't see why there's not a reason to run it back at some point.
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Speaker 1: You know, the.
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Speaker 2: Business side of it was massive. It was one of the biggest events in boxing in, you know, recent years. It'll probably be the biggest fight of this year.
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Speaker 1: Can you say the numbers? I can't. I can't. But it's massive. Really, really massive. Can you say it and can we bleep them out? Yeah. Let's do something like that. Yeah. The pay-per-view is... Buzz. Fat.
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Speaker 2: Ooh.
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Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's sick. That's a lot.
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Speaker 5: So that's why I'm pumped for the rematch because I think when you beat Tommy, it'll set up the perfect trilogy fight and everyone from their generation remembers these epic trilogy fights. And if you and Tommy had our dance partners for years down the line, just going back and forth, I think it's just so entertaining.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess for him, I think he has to like prove himself because from his standpoint, you know, he's, He came up to me afterwards, too, when we were in the medical offices. He's like, bro, you did great. I've been doing this since I was six. And when I think about it, I'm like, damn, like, what have you been doing for all those years? Because you're not that good. Like, I've been doing this for three years.
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Speaker 1: You just wiped his face on your ass with that comment.
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Speaker 4: Hey, man.
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Speaker 1: You did a really good job.
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Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, well, you fucking suck, bro. You started at six. What the fuck have you been doing?
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Speaker 1: Honestly, though. It's true. Jake's been doing this for three years. For three years. And I put him down onto the canvas.
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Speaker 2: And arguably, so many analysts, so many professional judges, so many professional fighters scored me to win the fight. So in Tommy's, I'm just saying from his point.
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Speaker 1: Of view, I think he should want to come back in.
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Speaker 2: Really silenced me and beat me in a proper way and not a controversial win.
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Speaker 4: Beyond other people making that statement, and I won't share my feelings on it just yet, but I want to ask you, do you in your heart feel like there's any way that that fight could have been a victory for you?
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Speaker 1: I think it was a draw, honestly. I think you would have been lucky to get a draw. I think he beat you.
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Speaker 2: Regardless, yeah, I haven't watched the fight. That's what I'm saying. I'm not sitting here and saying that I should have won or whatever. I'm saying like it probably could have been a draw.
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Speaker 1: It could have been a draw.
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Speaker 2: But all I'm saying is that Tommy should want to come back and like actually beat me properly.
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Speaker 1: Kind of like when I beat Tyron Woodley, it was controversial. Like a knockout.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. The first time. Oh, sorry. It was controversial.
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Speaker 2: It was kind of like, damn, that could have gone either way. And I wanted to come back and prove myself. And the saying of the next fight was leave no doubt. And so I think that that's the beauty of what Tommy should do here is leave no doubt.
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Speaker 5: So this is where it gets interesting because what's going to convince him to do that? Why would he fight you again knowing you were at about 70%?
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Speaker 1: Money. Money, right?
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Speaker 3: And also it's the biggest stage he's going to be boxing on right now.
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Speaker 5: But he did it technically once. How do you get him back in that ring?
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Speaker 1: Dude, that's a weird question too because he's saying 70%. We're sitting here.
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Speaker 4: Saying 70%, but Tommy could be sitting in the UK saying, bro, that was easy work. Even if he was at a hundred percent, that was easy work. That's just what we're saying. So you can't like try.
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Speaker 1: To get him at 70%. No, no, I get that.
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Speaker 4: But I'm just saying in Tommy's eyes, he might just look at that and be like, I don't care if he's 70, 90, 150, bro.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know any easy work that went to. No, no, no.
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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is he may, he may just look at that as just like an excuse.
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Speaker 1: But, but again, it's, it's money.
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Speaker 3: I think the only thing that I disliked that Tommy and his family did was try to take your purse after they cowered out of the bed.
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Speaker 1: I thought that was a little.
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Speaker 5: Dude, I've seen these videos of John Fury and Tommy Fury, and they're like, pay up, Jake Paul. Except I remember you, Brandon, in the locker room when John Fury was watching you get your hands wrapped. Brandon was fucking antagonizing him. And he goes, hey, about that contract, about the purse, why didn't you guys sign it?
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Speaker 1: Why didn't you return it? And John Fury just cowers into a little ball and goes, let's talk about boxing, mate. We're focused on boxing now.
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Speaker 5: And I'm in the background just stunned because I've just seen this dude in real time, for the first time, show his hand.
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Speaker 1: They weren't willing to actually sign the contract.
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Speaker 5: And then after the fight, when they won, now they're going and talking about being gypsies, how they can't read and write, and they expect you to pay up on something that they 1,000% wouldn't have if you had won the fight.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone sees through it and is calling him out on it, so much so that Jon Fury deleted the tweets.
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Speaker 1: Oh, he did? Yeah. Oh, I didn't see. Thank you, Jon. I appreciate it. I didn't see that narrative unfold. What I was going to say. That happened like hours ago.
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Speaker 4: Oh, okay. What I was going to say earlier when you were talking about the walkout, where I was interrupting you while you were speaking, was he walked out to Creedence Clearwater Revival, to CCR, Fortunate Son. And when I saw him walking out to that song, my first thought was, don't you dare walk out to that song. That is the song our helicopters flying to Vietnam listening to in every movie. And I also said to myself, this is bad. I said, this is a great fucking song, dude.
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Speaker 1: The Iron Man song? He was in Iron Man? When Iron Man, you know, started getting ready. I don't know how long I'm going to be on this show for. Dude, in my head I heard.
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Speaker 4: What surprised you the most about Tommy's approach? When he got in that ring, I didn't know what to expect. I hadn't seen tapes. I didn't know what he was going to come at you with. And I automatically saw, this is going to sound kind of weird, but I automatically saw a little bit of your bro in him in that he's a he's a big fucking kid dude he's a big dude and he throws a very good one his jet his jab to me at least looked like it was keeping you off of him and he was and his plan at least in the early rounds looked like it was stick the one and move stick the one.
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Speaker 1: And move not and not move left because that.
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Speaker 4: Was into the uh range of your right overhand right What about his approach surprised you and made you maybe respect him a little bit more?
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Speaker 2: Just his combinations, honestly. That was the best thing. His hand speed, yeah. And his number of punches was his best attribute, for sure. That's what was winning the close rounds for him, was that he was putting combinations together better.
00:18:48
Speaker 5: I have a confession. So after the fight, I told you this, I was gutted. I was just so confident. in you as I'm sure you were so confident in me when I lost the KSI. And I think I made a mistake in being really verbal about my confidence, especially to the documentary crew that was following you around for the past eight months to a year. I said, uh, I told them, I said, uh, I said, it is so abundantly clear to me the outcome of this fight. I said, if Jake loses to Tommy, he's straight up bitch made.
00:19:30
Speaker 1: I said that, dude. I said it. And I feel so bad now.
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Speaker 5: I'm going to get fucking Curb Your Enthusiasm memed on this documentary when it comes out in November or October. And I'm sorry. I'm telling you now, I'm sorry.
00:19:45
Speaker 1: I just like.
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Speaker 5: I mean, same, but like, bro, who cares? I care because I feel bad. Yeah, but it's like, it's part of the game. It's shit talk.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, we had that confidence and I think that confidence is still there like on a good night, honestly. But it's definitely going to be interesting. And by the way, if the rematch happens before then, When I win.
00:20:10
Speaker 1: That's true. It's going to be all good.
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Speaker 4: That's true.
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Speaker 1: That's true. It's going to be good.
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Speaker 5: Do you think your wet dream played a part of it at all? Bro, I don't know if we should talk about this. I do want to talk about it because I know you didn't want to, but mom said, she said, Jake had a wet dream the night before his fight. I sparked up and I said, no fucking way. I had a wet dream the day of the KSI fight. Why are you guys talking to your moms about that?
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Speaker 1: Very open family. Yeah, very open family.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Too open. Too open. I don't think so. I think it's probably a bit healthy.
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Speaker 2: It's probably healthy to talk about sex with your kids. That's probably why.
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Speaker 1: You know what I used to say growing up? That's probably why you're like this.
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Speaker 3: My parents used to be like, that's some white people shit. That's what I used to say.
00:20:50
Speaker 5: Nice.
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Speaker 3: That's some white people shit, bro.
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Speaker 4: WPS.
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Speaker 5: But dude, our lives really do run so parallel. And I know you had been in boxing terms, what they call building your batch. So essentially what you do is you don't. release um in order to build up that testosterone in your body to make you just like some angry fucking fight i fucked myself literally literally over what what was your dream about yeah that's what i wanted to know i don't actually even remember just like you nutted and forgot nah nah you nut and you go oh no because i woke i literally woke up in a panic like fuck where was the nut fuck worst thing ever where's.
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Speaker 1: The nut Like where, like right now? No, no. Like when, how did you, how did you make this shocking discovery?
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Speaker 2: Are you like right after you wake up and you like Joel out of it? And I was like, it's the worst thing ever when you can't stop it either.
00:21:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Cause, cause bro, you have like two weeks, you have two weeks of testosterone build up, built up. And so the reason a wet dream happens is because your body like needs to release that energy. It like knows inside of it's in your mind. It's like, this is not good. And Yeah, I fucked myself.
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Speaker 3: That probably was like an explosion, bro. 100% his dream was him standing above Tommy knocking him out.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it makes your legs weak. I guess the viewers, that's why it's bad is it makes your legs weak. Oh.
00:22:10
Speaker 1: Why does it make your legs weak?
00:22:12
Speaker 2: Because the sperm is stored in your legs and it has something to do with the neurological connection of like, you.
00:22:19
Speaker 1: Did exactly what you were put on this earth to do.
00:22:22
Speaker 2: So you become like relaxed and oxytocin goes through your body and you kind of like just get lax.
00:22:29
Speaker 1: And then, and then once you, I don't know what I needed to do. It's, it's really bad guys.
00:22:36
Speaker 2: It's really, and then once you start getting hit in the head, you're, that's why you're like, if you notice when fighters are about to get knocked out, their legs start like jumping all over the place. That's because you're, you're ahead in your legs. Like, are connected once you're getting hit in it.
00:22:51
Speaker 4: Did you nut and sneeze on the first? Oh, so you were just losing all your shit. Just to clarify.
00:22:58
Speaker 1: You lost because you nutted. I just said that. I just fucking said that. No, but I'm just saying, is that why you didn't feel good? I think it's one of many reasons.
00:23:09
Speaker 5: I remember what happened to me mentally. I was kind of destroyed. a little bit. You had just done this thing that isn't easy for three weeks to a month, holding your batch, you're building your batch, and it's not easy. And then on the day of the fucking fight, all your progress is destroyed, and you're back to zero.
00:23:32
Speaker 1: And it isn't like a little release, by the way. It's a lot, dude. Could you take a Viagra or a Blue Chew? Does that help in any type of way?
00:23:41
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:23:42
Speaker 1: What is wrong?
00:23:43
Speaker 4: What?
00:23:43
Speaker 1: Oh, what is wrong with me? What is wrong with me? I'm the wrong one. I'm the wrong one. Well, the question you're... Oh, no.
00:23:55
Speaker 4: Mom.
00:23:56
Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe what just happened. I just nutted in my dreams. All right, I got to call dad. Don't call you right back. Wait, but I want to know your logic. Why would you think taking a Viagra would help in this situation? I don't know what is the fucking.
00:24:07
Speaker 1: You don't know, huh? I didn't know about the nutting in the legs. You're just saying stuff. You don't know anything then, huh?
00:24:12
Speaker 3: If we didn't do that, it wouldn't be called impulsive. It would just be called thoroughly thought out ideas. What do you know? Good question. That's my fucking brother.
00:24:24
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I'll get back to you guys.
00:24:27
Speaker 3: I'll get back to you guys. Do you think maybe you had a Roman swipe? Because a Roman swipe makes the ones make you last longer. Is that what you meant?
00:24:37
Speaker 1: Oh, that would have worked. Yeah, did you just misfire? That's what I meant. No, it wasn't.
00:24:41
Speaker 3: I meant the Roman wipes because you know how they do it in Rome. I don't know what the fuck Roman wipes are.
00:24:49
Speaker 4: Curb your enthusiasm moment he's talking about where he gets clipped because of something he said.
00:24:54
Speaker 1: I don't know what curb your enthusiasm is. Just forget it. What's the theme song? Can we start this episode over?
00:25:00
Speaker 5: Bro.
00:25:01
Speaker 1: I think we should.
00:25:05
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
00:25:06
Speaker 5: Quick, the theme song for Curb Your Enthusiasm.
00:25:12
Speaker 1: Copyrighted immediately. Should I be more sad? No, just hear me out. Should I cry? Be good for the clickbait. Yeah. Like right now? Are you going to cry? No. Okay.
00:25:29
Speaker 4: What just happened to you, this combat-related humbling, which we have seen before?
00:25:35
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? You're good. That's good. Unbelievable. Okay, can I ask you this? I think we should start over. No, no, no, listen.
00:25:55
Speaker 4: Does it affect the amount of just unrelinquished, relentless shit-talking that you do prior to the next fight? Because this was, like, a big thing that I saw. Like, a lot of people wanted to talk about this. Like, for example, somebody clipped your.
00:26:14
Speaker 1: pre-fight thing that was like, tomorrow's the day, Tommy! Tomorrow's the day! And then the post-fight where it's like, welp, guys! Whoops!
00:26:24
Speaker 2: It's part of the game, for sure. Definitely look like a fucking idiot. I think this shit's hilarious, too. It's like the Bryce Hall, like, I'm a professional boxer.
00:26:35
Speaker 1: I have never said I'm a boxer. Now it's me. Now it's me. I respect it. I think it's funny.
00:26:42
Speaker 2: But Definitely the shit talk is turned down a notch, for sure, if there is a rematch.
00:26:49
Speaker 1: No, don't do that. It's more actions. It's not necessarily... I don't know if it's the shit talk, but less disrespect. You respect them more. Yeah, exactly. More... You know, kudos. Good job. Good job.
00:27:02
Speaker 4: But do you also feel like that is such a factor in your sales and marketing for the fights? Like, if you look at somebody like Conor, when Conor comes off an L, that doesn't affect his shit-talking going into the next fight.
00:27:16
Speaker 1: In fact, it might even make it more. He actually talks about your wife. Yeah. He does. That's what he did. What do you do?
00:27:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it kind of just depends what mood I'm in. Like, sometimes I just want to talk shit. Sometimes I'm just like, I don't. I don't really care, but I guess even going into the second Woodley fight, I wasn't really talking as much. It could still be very entertaining and it's still a massive buildup, but I don't know if those words are necessarily needed, but I guess we'll see.
00:27:48
Speaker 1: I'm really a moody person.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: Whatever I feel that morning, that day, right now I'm just super chill. Don't give it just vibing. Some days I wake up and I'm like, would just want to troll and be like a little demon and like shake up the internet and talk, talk shit. So, uh, that's why there's like so many, I think different sides of me and my persona.
00:28:09
Speaker 5: I have to know, uh, again, I told you this, but watching you just kind of digest what had just happened after the fight was really interesting. Cause I could keenly relate to what you're experiencing almost, almost to the T right. Split decision, loss points taken away. It didn't make sense to me at the time because I had worked so hard. I had manifested it.
00:28:30
Speaker 1: Nutted the night before.
00:28:31
Speaker 5: Nutted the night before. Even that, which is so fucking weird. We're literally the same person, bro.
00:28:35
Speaker 1: It's weird as fuck. That is a little weird. That's very, very weird. And things like this happen like all the time.
00:28:42
Speaker 2: Like random little nuances that are completely just.
00:28:48
Speaker 1: Out of nowhere. And we both have experienced or done something like it.
00:28:52
Speaker 5: And the one thing that I remember after my loss is Everyone was saying stuff to me, but like nothing was really landing, nor in my heart did I feel like it mattered. And even when it first happened, I seen like one of the random ring guys like start talking to you about like, he's like, you.
00:29:08
Speaker 1: Know, everyone loses in boxing.
00:29:10
Speaker 5: Like right away, people are just trying to chirp in your ear to make you feel better. And it's annoying because nothing really gets to you. But was there something that anyone said that actually did make it in there that affected you in a positive way regarding this loss?
00:29:25
Speaker 1: That's a great question.
00:29:28
Speaker 2: I think after the initial shock of about 24 to 36 hours, a lot of the stuff that people had said to me and that were texting me. collectively started to think or sink in. But I think the most important things were the discoveries I was making through my own personal thoughts and journaling and the things I was telling myself and actually feeling because someone could tell you You look beautiful, but if you don't actually believe that yourself, then you're never going to grow or believe that, obviously. And easier said than done. But it was definitely a collective. I received more praise and love and support after the loss from friends and fighters and all sorts of people than I did after winning. And I was like, damn, I should just keep losing because.
00:30:21
Speaker 1: This is great. This is really great. Join the club, bro. All the love. Join the club. It's not so bad. This guy's the mayor of the club. He's there every Thursday.
00:30:32
Speaker 5: I also want to know because we talk about manifestation a lot on this show. And I'm pretty big into manifesting. I was really big into manifesting growing up. And I think some people know this story. Like when I first moved to Hollywood, right? Look in the mirror 10 times every morning, every night, repeat to myself, I will be the biggest entertainer in the world. I will be the biggest entertainer in the world. No matter if I was partying, drunk, someone was at my house, whatever. And I didn't care how weird it was.
00:31:02
Speaker 1: I did it.
00:31:03
Speaker 5: And I manifested in a really, really intense way for both KSI fights that I would win those fights. The first one was a draw. So then I told myself and rationalized my manifestation, not working with, okay, well, I'll get them on the next one. That's, that's when it's supposed to come true, right? That's when my destiny is going to, is going to make sense to me. And then I manifested even harder and it didn't come true the second time. And truthfully, since then, bro, I've kind of stopped manifesting in that way because I believed it so much. So much so I had so much conviction in that my reality was I was going to win that fight. And that's just not how life unfolded that night for you because you even manifest more than me. If you go into his bathroom, guys, there's paper all over his mirrors about his goals and his ambitions. Is it going to affect how you talk and try to speak your reality or your vision into reality?
00:32:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've definitely been battling with this thought for sure. But I think that manifestation is almost like a cherry on top.
00:32:08
Speaker 1: It's like that extra little bit of belief.
00:32:11
Speaker 2: And psychological warfare with yourself and basically essentially like you're hypnotizing your own thoughts and creating an energy around yourself that's tangible and it seeps into the pores of other people. And then this collectively becomes a bigger energy and a bigger thought. And then if it keeps on growing and growing and growing, that's when the manifestation can come to fruition and actually turn into something. But again, it's only probably 10% of it. And if you don't do it, then yeah, if you don't believe in it, then it's not real 100%. But you still have to be physically present, physically there, mentally ready, willing to die, so many things.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: But it's one piece of the puzzle. And if.
00:33:00
Speaker 2: It worked 100% of the time, then none of us would be sitting here that there's no beauty in that. There's no, that's not life. That's not how shit works. Cause we, we would all just wake up in the morning and be like tomorrow, I'm going to find a billion dollars. And you say that a hundred fucking times, but it's just.
00:33:19
Speaker 1: If you're not putting in the work, then it's not going to matter. That's what I'm saying.
00:33:21
Speaker 5: I put in the work, bro. I felt like I could control my destiny. And then when my destiny was like, nah, bitch, I'm your destiny.
00:33:27
Speaker 1: I'm doing what I want. But you can't. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You could put in the work.
00:33:31
Speaker 2: You can do all of the things, but still, the destiny is already, I guess, predetermined.
00:33:39
Speaker 1: In some sense. Yeah, it was written.
00:33:43
Speaker 2: And you still, that's why I said it's only the cherry on top. And even if you were Physically ready. You were physically ready. Like, did you have the right coaches? Did you nut the night before the fight? All of these things could throw off so many different aspects and the butterfly effect of each decision that you make is massive. And by the way, you could still say the things out loud in the mirror. Like I, Jake Paul will win.
00:34:08
Speaker 1: Blah, blah, blah. But if you don't fully believe it, I think that's also. part of the problem. Cause then you start to second guess those other thoughts.
00:34:19
Speaker 4: There's an issue with not doing it. And that just really quickly, I'm not a big manifester. And what that does as a negative for me sometimes is a neutral brain and a brain that is at rest will sometimes produce thoughts that are counter productive to victory. And so by flooding your day, flooding your dialogue with positive reinforcements, uh, that is acting as a shield against what a resting brain or mind may do on its own. Because the last thing you want to do is walk into that ring saying to yourself, yo, there's a chance I might lose today.
00:34:55
Speaker 2: No, see, thoughts are so powerful though.
00:34:58
Speaker 4: And in fights, I've heard that it can be useful to realize that you are in a situation that could go badly because it can allow you to react certain ways. But if you ask any uber successful businessman, athlete, entertainer in the world out there, they all practice positive manifestation. They are all telling themselves every day, yo, I'm, this is, this is done in the army and the special forces. When they get into that water with that raft over their heads, they're saying to themselves, I'm the fucking best. I'm tough enough. I'm the best because that, that positive talk to yourself does work. There's no question about that. Does it work all the time to your point?
00:35:37
Speaker 1: Maybe not. But it's definitely more beneficial than a resting.
00:35:41
Speaker 2: Also, 100% thoughts are all that we have. If you wake up, I bet you if a scientist did an experiment with two people who are the same age and they woke up every single day and one said to themselves every single day, I'm old, I'm old. And they said it a hundred times. And then the other one was like, I'm young, I'm young. I guarantee you the one who was saying I was old would live 10 to 20 years less.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: They did a much.
00:36:04
Speaker 5: less version of that experiment with plants and... Oh, playing music and stuff, yeah.
00:36:08
Speaker 1: Playing... Or yelling at a plant. I believe it was playing music.
00:36:11
Speaker 5: And telling a plant to grow. And the plant that was told to grow grew... Yeah.
00:36:16
Speaker 1: Also, here's another thing, bro.
00:36:17
Speaker 3: Like, you said it was your destiny, but maybe your destiny was made for you to lose because you needed... It was the only way to get to Prime or to Mayweather.
00:36:25
Speaker 1: Like, there was... A lot of bigger accomplishments that you nailed afterwards. Well, now it makes sense.
00:36:30
Speaker 5: But it still doesn't change how I feel about manifesting as hard as I did.
00:36:36
Speaker 1: Did you stop doing it? I don't really do it.
00:36:39
Speaker 4: Do you know what his bathroom says now? I went in it yesterday. There used to be huge signs. You will be the greatest entertainer in the world. Now there is a rug in front of his sink that simply says two words.
00:36:50
Speaker 1: Fuck off. That's kind of where I'm at.
00:36:54
Speaker 4: That's how much of a change he's made.
00:36:57
Speaker 3: Do you think that's changed your ability to be happy?
00:37:02
Speaker 1: Not at all. Happiest I've ever been. Achieved more than I ever could have imagined. Yeah, but again, then you're kind of.
00:37:09
Speaker 2: wrong in the sense because like you would your main one was i will become one of the biggest entertainers in the world and that's exactly what you've done.
00:37:16
Speaker 1: So so that one for some reason stuck and came a little more true maybe you believed it deep down he didn't believe but i i.
00:37:25
Speaker 5: Don't even know if i fully believe that though like that's that's a tall order and i'm trying to do school things but i don't care about it as much anymore actually i don't care about it at all i don't care about being the biggest entertainer on the planet Yeah, no shit.
00:37:39
Speaker 1: You already did it. No. Oh, I don't know.
00:37:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like when you're chilling in like the top 10, you're kind of like, well, I'm like here. I'm close to the top.
00:37:46
Speaker 1: What's the metric? Who's going to decide? This is pretty chill.
00:37:50
Speaker 2: It is hilarious that we are both from Westlake, Ohio, fucking getting paid tens of millions of dollars to do any of this shit.
00:37:58
Speaker 1: And we have the same goal.
00:38:00
Speaker 2: Him and I are probably going to live on a ranch together with our fucking families.
00:38:04
Speaker 1: Off of all this fucking money.
00:38:06
Speaker 2: None of this, none of this, means anything unless you have your happiness and your family and your health intact so it's like business is cool whatever but we're just playing the fucking game i.
00:38:18
Speaker 4: Am very visual visibly seeing that from both of you guys right now and i do want to i do want to say this it is so so obvious that you guys have turned a corner away from just being driven by any kind of.
00:38:33
Speaker 1: Money or visibility only. I say that to both of you guys.
00:38:37
Speaker 4: I'm seeing more and more you prioritize relationships, real pursuits in life and what you actually desire to get from this life outside of entertainment and money and so on and so forth. And I don't know if that has anything to do with the success of your brand or whatever, but it's palpable and noticeable.
00:38:56
Speaker 1: It comes with maturity.
00:38:57
Speaker 5: It comes with having achieved the goals and having hustled very hard to achieve those goals and feeling a level of accomplishment for me. And I mean, I think you're maturing really rapidly. I don't know if it's like the psychedelics or the like hallucinogenic experiences you've had. But for me, I mean, my priorities very viscerally shifted. And I even like, I look back in our past um, at some of the beefs we've had, because you're right, dude, like family is so important. We were in Saudi Arabia, me, you, mom, dad, and it just felt good to just be all together. And like, I really feel now a really tight kinship with y'all that I, that I had it. And I look back at some of our beefs and just some of the, some of the things I did to, uh, to, uh, that hurt you. And I feel really fucking bad about it, dude. I feel really bad about some of the things I did. And like, I'll, uh, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll apologize to you off camera, but like, damn, man, I, as like, uh, as the older brother, I wish I would have had more wherewithal in how to respectfully and appropriately treat my family when I was younger. and it's it's a shame that it's taken me this long to like come to terms with that sort of in myself um.
00:40:33
Speaker 1: I don't know I don't know I don't know why I'm such like a late bloomer in that regard.
00:40:37
Speaker 2: Yeah no and I I honestly really appreciate that um and I know we've talked about this off camera and and I apologize as well. Like we were just fucking jackasses. And so had our priorities mixed up.
00:40:58
Speaker 1: I just think, I just think I, I just should have like, I'm the older brother, dude. You know what I'm saying?
00:41:06
Speaker 5: I do believe it's much easier for me to hurt you than it is for you to hurt me. And I took advantage of that. That's fucked up.
00:41:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:41:14
Speaker 2: No, and I, it definitely really hurt me for sure. For sure, for many years. And it was confusing because I just wanted us to be really, really close. But then I just kept on getting like battered, honestly. And I felt like I was always the one who was like, let's make amends, let's make amends, let's make amends. And it would always kind of get flipped on its head.
00:41:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what my deal was, man.
00:41:39
Speaker 5: I'm going to spend some time in these last part of my 20s.
00:41:44
Speaker 2: It's not your fault, though. You do what was done to you. You were treated like shit growing up.
00:41:52
Speaker 1: You were abused.
00:41:53
Speaker 2: That's a part of our childhood, and there's no running away from that.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: That's the truth.
00:42:00
Speaker 2: And so as humans, we do what was done to us because hurt people hurt people. And so there's this void in you, and you didn't know any.
00:42:10
Speaker 1: Other way, bro. You didn't. You didn't.
00:42:13
Speaker 5: I never felt hurt though. I felt like I was emulating a coldness that the male figure of my life embodies.
00:42:24
Speaker 1: That's being hurt. You don't have to feel hurt to be hurt.
00:42:29
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't even realize why they're drinking or doing drugs or all of these things. There's a void and that void comes from hurt. And so they're just filling it up. Even other people going on dates with people, having sex with people, That is filling a void to make yourself feel better about yourself. And there was this cold lack of emotion growing up. I didn't even know what emotions were. We never had an emotional conversation with either one of our parents.
00:42:57
Speaker 5: We talked about this on the plane ride back about how it affected just when you became the problem child. We were talking about just how much trouble you were really getting into at that age and you sort of just being numb to emotion and following along and wanting to just fit in with your friends who are doing gnarly shit.
00:43:16
Speaker 4: Yup.
00:43:16
Speaker 1: Yup.
00:43:17
Speaker 2: To escape, to escape from, you know, and to, to gain back control in my own life and to like have freedom to just be me instead of living in this sort of tyrannical prison of our dad's house.
00:43:35
Speaker 5: Ironically, you're kind of doing similar practices now in the, opposite end of the scale.
00:43:43
Speaker 1: Correct.
00:43:43
Speaker 5: Like I really admired these disciplines you've put on yourself this year, 2023 that, that are, that are really, really hard and admirable. Yeah.
00:43:51
Speaker 4: Right.
00:43:51
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll let you say them, but right. No, no drinking. Yeah. No, no sex.
00:43:56
Speaker 2: Yep. No drinking, no sex. No watching porn, like to masturbate or anything like that. Daily meditation, like 20 to 45 minutes. tons of books, tons of talks with my life coach slash therapist, Susie, on a daily basis. We talk for probably about an hour every single day, understanding like emotional intelligence, self-love, all of these things that I've to love myself.
00:44:36
Speaker 1: You don't think you do? Really? Yeah.
00:44:41
Speaker 5: What, what, what is it about yourself that you don't love? I, I, I love myself, but it's like, it's a muddy, muddy hole, I guess.
00:44:58
Speaker 2: And so I, I have to, it only shines through sometimes. And I was just taught not to love myself. I was always criticized. I was always, you know, if I didn't get good grades criticized, you're terrible, you're not smart, you're not this. You know, you lose the wrestling tournament. Oh, you got third place? Fucking, you suck. Why didn't you fucking do that? So I had to accomplish things to love myself. And so I've noticed that, I mean, that's probably why I'm like extremely successful in a lot of senses because I've just had to accomplish things for me to feel good about my own self. But now it's like shedding that and realizing that me just being me is more than good enough. And I'm important no matter how much money I have, no matter what I just did.
00:45:47
Speaker 1: And that's why.
00:45:47
Speaker 2: I think this fight was such a gift from the universe, because I think for the first time I'm, I'm really like, damn, I really do love myself. I don't need all of these accolades and accomplishments to feel good. And that's why I'm able to like sit here almost with like a weight lifted off my shoulders over the past couple of days. Um, because so much of my self love was placed in like in accomplishments.
00:46:13
Speaker 1: Um, yeah.
00:46:17
Speaker 4: So there was, so this was almost kind of like a test for you almost to be able to get through a loss that in the past you would have required to go home and actually continue loving yourself and, and think that others around you loved you for that. It was almost a test to be able to walk out of that ring with that, with the loss and, without the victory and go home and still say, yeah, I feel good about myself. I feel good about who I am as a person.
00:46:40
Speaker 1: Yeah. A hundred percent.
00:46:41
Speaker 2: And another thing is that people don't realize is like when you are 16 years old and then in front of like tens of millions of people and you're reading comments on a daily basis that are saying you're this, you're ugly, you're that you're, you suck.
00:46:56
Speaker 1: You're not funny. You're terrible. Go fuck yourself. You should die.
00:47:00
Speaker 2: I wish your parents never had you when you're like consuming that as adolescent, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 years old for six, seven, eight years of your life. You're one of the most, you know, controversial hated people on the internet. You start to read those comments and that blossoms in your head if you let it. And I didn't know who I was. I didn't know how to love myself. I was never taught that. I never practiced that. My parents had such conditional love for me. It was only, you know, if I did something good, I would receive love. which is terrible. And so, yes, a thousand percent. And, um, and so, yeah, you topple that with like millions of comments.
00:47:48
Speaker 1: Read over years and years and years.
00:47:50
Speaker 2: And, um, and then you go to the wrong places to fulfill that void of lack of self-love and that's like alcohol, other people, you know, sex, partying, drugs, accomplishments, money, all of those things that are the heart of Los Angeles. So you're in the city of other people who fucking hate themselves and are trying to become famous to love themselves. And a lot of people, like some of the best people in the world don't love themselves, like the best actors, all these things, and they're doing all of this business stuff and growing their brand and all this stuff to feel validated. That's why girls post half naked online. They want to feel validated. They want the male attention. If a girl truly loves herself, she won't need an Instagram for that. And maybe it's one thing if it's a business, but yeah, I was down that rabbit hole tenfold. And by the way, that only makes it worse. So by trying to fill that void with the shit that's not real, you're actually going backwards and you'll end up in a much worse spot. And yeah, that's where, that's why I ended up and for the past two years, I guess now have been on this journey and have done ayahuasca, toad, mushrooms, daily meditation, breath work, and all of these things to really get back to a place of self-love which is i think the key.
00:49:25
Speaker 5: To life that was beautiful dude all of that you are you are wise beyond your years and even just like.
00:49:34
Speaker 1: Hearing you talk you you evolved so.
00:49:36
Speaker 5: Much and i don't know how or where that came from because like i I am definitely not as emotionally in touch with how I'm feeling or emotionally intelligent. I think, um, as you are, we had this, like, I just kind of feel brain dead to be honest.
00:49:51
Speaker 1: It's, it's, it's a practice, bro.
00:49:54
Speaker 2: Like I've been working now for literally seriously working behind the scenes. And it's not fun, by the way, it's not fun to take a look at all the things that created all of these monsters inside of you and to like uncover them. Um, it's actually quite terrifying and confusing.
00:50:13
Speaker 1: I still haven't done it. I'm 30.
00:50:15
Speaker 4: I got that hood closed, bro. I'm not bragging, but I understand where you're coming from. And I want to say this too. You both have grown tremendously. Tremendously, both of you. I mean, I've had the blessing and pleasure to be around you guys for the past five or six years. And I mean, the growth is tangible, immense, and so palpable to me and everyone. And I know you guys both whether it's boxing or ayahuasca, girlfriends, whatever, like to attribute a lot of your emotional growth and success to the things.
00:50:47
Speaker 1: That you're doing.
00:50:49
Speaker 4: But I also have noticed that it has been something that you guys stopped doing that has also contributed to that growth.
00:50:57
Speaker 1: And that's creating.
00:50:57
Speaker 4: Daily content and being and living in that atmosphere of fucking feedback, that crowdsourced self-esteem that Kanye has talked about, right? Like, Those that, that always on criticism and critique in a world that I live in still to this day, that doesn't really allow you to ever check in on yourself. That doesn't really ever allow you the time to sit with a therapist or with a loved one and say, yo, I don't know why I feel like this.
00:51:24
Speaker 1: Let's work on it.
00:51:25
Speaker 4: Cause you're too busy fulfilling your, your obligation to an audience. And, and so that that's one thing I noticed about both of you guys, when you guys took a moment to step back from that grind, from that always on approach. and focused on boxing and long-term pursuits, it really gave you some room to breathe.
00:51:43
Speaker 1: 100%.
00:51:44
Speaker 2: And that's why I say Hollywood is such a terribly unhealthy place. And there's a reason why damn near every single person that goes there and ends up getting famous and all of these things ends up on almost identically the same path of drugs, alcohol, and all of these dark, dark places. And that's why you hear so many stories about it all the time. Your happiness lies within an audience. Everyone knows it's not good to be codependent. You want to be your own independent, self-loving person. If you're in a codependent relationship where your happiness relies on the other person, that's terrible. It's never going to work out. Well, guess what you're doing when you're becoming famous? You're becoming codependent on millions of people for your happiness. Unless you truly don't give a fuck and can separate yourself from that. It's going to create this terribly fucked up system and feedback loop in your head. That's never going to work in your favor.
00:52:50
Speaker 5: I had a major breakthrough during the time I was shooting originals because it was one of the first times in my life where I felt like I was doing the thing I love creating. But for me, I was finally making content that I wanted to make because it really interested me. Putting down that camera and sort of putting the audience on hold for a second was so liberating. When you're doing stuff consistently for other people for so long, and I say this all the time, but you're just constantly just giving your energy. Like how much do you have for you to even just discover who you are? in a developmental period of your life. And finding myself and truly being able to say that I became a person that I love is the most freeing, relaxing, motivating feeling I've in space that I've ever lived in my whole life. And perhaps that's why I mentioned earlier, I'm the happiest I've ever been. Perhaps that's why I'm achieving these goals that are far beyond what I ever could have imagined. And I'm not even like in my head, I don't know what they look like ahead of time. It's not like I'm shooting for something. I'm just like doing what I love.
00:54:13
Speaker 1: I'm doing what I love.
00:54:13
Speaker 5: And I found this contentness and I'm so fucking blessed and grateful for it. But I think to, to make this a little bit relatable for anyone listening and, um, like the, the takeaway here is I guess just, uh, just be really cognizant of your energy. And it's not good to be selfish, but how much of your life are you living for you? And how much are you giving away? Do you have any left for yourself? I really do believe that's important.
00:54:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key to life, man. And we're not human doings. We're human beings. So if you could just be and master the art of yourself and being in a room alone and it can make yourself happy.
00:55:06
Speaker 1: Um, that's the most important thing.
00:55:10
Speaker 5: And the fact that you've now found this after so many, so many years, um, is really awesome.
00:55:17
Speaker 2: And I'm proud of you for that, honestly, because it's not easy, man. It's, it's, it's not easy at all.
00:55:24
Speaker 1: No. Yeah.
00:55:24
Speaker 3: No.
00:55:25
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I've all, I've all, well, Mike, something you haven't done enough is fucking lost, bro. Recently.
00:55:32
Speaker 5: You lost a lot in that tough decade of your life, you know. But I definitely think getting hit in the fucking face and failing and losing on like, you know, whether it's a small scale or big scale can help.
00:55:46
Speaker 1: You evolve in a way that you could never imagine.
00:55:47
Speaker 4: If you don't, I could sit here forever and just do what I'm doing. But if you never take chances to evolve, you can't. Like I found a comfort zone and I hate.
00:55:58
Speaker 5: I mean you could see it bro I love what I do and I love the content but it's just I wanna we have.
00:56:06
Speaker 4: A couple more topics covered today before we dive into it because that's a long this was wonderful but I gotta bring.
00:56:14
Speaker 1: Us back to the internet because there's a few more.
00:56:16
Speaker 2: Topics that we gotta cover today okay I say we sit here for five hours and fucking.
00:56:21
Speaker 1: Do a super episode did you guys want to come to the dinner by the way yeah can you guys too Logan's relationship with Dana White and UFC.
00:56:33
Speaker 4: Is not the only contentious relationship that he has in his life that's related to you. You walked out of that ring after a tough loss, and within seconds, there was a viral video from a man named KSI just digging in, digging fucking in. I can quote him. Uh, he was smoking on that Jake Paul pack. And I want to ask you, uh, you know, was there anything that happened there that you didn't expect? Uh, and I also want to then get your reaction and what that was like for you in a moment where you knew your brother was going through it to see a, you know, your, your business partner, your friend, your, you know, your, um, co-creator, um, you know, taking advantage in that moment.
00:57:26
Speaker 1: I just want to get some feedback from both of you guys. Jake first. I didn't, I don't know. I didn't see the videos.
00:57:33
Speaker 2: Um, again, talk is cheap because with all that talk of whatever he said, he's still afraid to sign the contract.
00:57:42
Speaker 4: So you're saying the fight, the reason the fight's not happening right now is just 100% KSI.
00:57:46
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:57:50
Speaker 1: So he could, I mean, he could talk all that shit, but like, let's, let's go in the ring. 100%.
00:57:53
Speaker 5: Like, talk that shit let's sell some fucking pay-per-views brother so.
00:58:01
Speaker 4: It's just the balls in his court would you consider a ksi fight prior to a a tommy fury.
00:58:06
Speaker 2: Rematch no no and like and ksi has never fought anyone good so it's like all all that talk is is from i'm totally laughing.
00:58:16
Speaker 1: Because he's laughing why why Because he fought you. Oh, oh. Oh, no. Oh, no.
00:58:19
Speaker 4: Oh, fuck.
00:58:19
Speaker 1: That really hurts. That really hurts, Jake. I'm sorry. I tried my best to not. I turned out of frame. You could have done the same, George. I don't know why. Jake said that. I was like, yeah. He's like, yeah, he's right. He's absolutely right. Wait, but I am right because even when you fought him, you weren't good. You're great. You're good now. Undeveloped. And this is the thing.
00:58:52
Speaker 2: When I make my pound for pound list, they're like, why does Jake put Logan above KSI? KSI beat him. If you guys fought now, you would win. You're a different fighter than back then.
00:59:03
Speaker 1: So it's like.
00:59:06
Speaker 1: Let me say something.
00:59:09
Speaker 5: Hmm so I obviously like want to try to stay neutral here but and JJ's done a phenomenal job at winning everything he does.
00:59:38
Speaker 1: Maybe Jake could just give the feedback for it.
00:59:41
Speaker 5: No, he's done a great job at winning everything he does. It's because of his confidence in himself.
00:59:47
Speaker 1: For sure.
00:59:53
Speaker 5: And JJ clowning on Jake in that moment is inevitable.
00:59:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's warranted. Obviously, he's going to fucking do that.
01:00:01
Speaker 4: No, 100%.
01:00:01
Speaker 1: He has to do that. Yeah, I would do the same if he lost, no doubt. He has to do it. It's just, uh, like you said, bro, it's the fucking, it's the game.
01:00:12
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:00:12
Speaker 1: It's the game. It's what you do. And then if you lose, you deal with it then.
01:00:16
Speaker 5: Uh, and, and, and he, JJ, fortunately for him has not gotten humbled yet.
01:00:22
Speaker 1: And maybe, maybe he won't, maybe he will. That's up to the gods to decide. Um, that, that's what I mean though, is, is all things considered.
01:00:32
Speaker 2: Like I talk a lot of shit, dah, dah, dah, but I, Back to back to back.
01:00:37
Speaker 1: Schedule these fights. And go in the ring. And do them. Whoever it is. Anywhere. Anytime. Anyplace. I've backed that up. And proven it. And shown it. And so. He's hot on Twitter. You know he's got the Twitter fingers. But. When it comes to actually fighting me. You have been. Gone. Absent. Haven't actually showed up. Haven't actually signed the contract. So. Talk is cheap.
01:01:03
Speaker 5: And.
01:01:04
Speaker 2: Let's just hope he gets into the ring and we can settle all the shit talk there after I go back and avenge this loss with Tommy Fury.
01:01:12
Speaker 4: So it's Tommy Fury and then this gets back on the schedule.
01:01:16
Speaker 1: So like... I like that fight.
01:01:21
Speaker 4: And not saying that you shouldn't fight Tommy again because I like the idea of unfinished business and leave no doubt.
01:01:27
Speaker 1: But I love that KSI fight because....
01:01:31
Speaker 4: Of what I said earlier, which is I believe you guys are both scrappers. And honestly, I like it, but I don't like it for the same reason your brother. I love you, bro.
01:01:41
Speaker 1: I love you. And watching your growth is fucking inspirational.
01:01:44
Speaker 4: But I have also come to and always have very much respect to JJ and do like JJ very much as well. So the idea of it, I probably sit somewhere around the same place as him on it. But that is a fuck. That's the super fight. That's the fight, dude.
01:01:59
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
01:01:59
Speaker 2: Like there is not as big of a fight as you think.
01:02:03
Speaker 1: I disagree. For what reason? Do you think it loses? We both. Yeah, we both.
01:02:08
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a mainstream audience. So does the Fury name. So that's why superstars were there. Ronaldo, all this shit.
01:02:15
Speaker 1: No one really knows.
01:02:15
Speaker 2: Like celebrities don't care about KSI. He has like all the little like Internet kids wrapped around his finger. But that's also all the kids who still watch me fight because they hate me. So it's like we have a lot of the same crossover audience, and it doesn't engage the professional boxing combat sports world nearly as much as me versus Tommy.
01:02:38
Speaker 1: I would love to see the revenge of the Pauls and have Tommy. Sorry, sorry.
01:02:43
Speaker 2: And this is why I've said I'm KSI's end goal, right? But for me, there's bigger fights out there.
01:02:49
Speaker 1: So that's a pit stop. Yeah, it's a pit stop. It's a million plus buy event. It is. It's a million and a half plus buy.
01:02:59
Speaker 2: KSI has only sold.
01:03:01
Speaker 1: 200,000 pay-per-views max. Here's what I think. And that was against him.
01:03:05
Speaker 4: What?
01:03:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys sold 240,000. No, we did 1.1. That's a lie.
01:03:07
Speaker 2: At $ 10.
01:03:12
Speaker 1: Oh, the first fight with me and Deji and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, which is $ 10 million. The second one was between... On DAZN, yeah. I don't think it was two. I thought it was more like 300, 400,000.
01:03:23
Speaker 2: There was 200,000 subscribers who had already paid for DAZN that watched it, or 400,000 that watched it, but they already had paid for DAZN, and then you added 220,000 new subscribers at $ 20, which is only, you know, I see.
01:03:37
Speaker 1: However many millions of dollars. Okay. KSI has never sold a proper pay-per-view at $ 50, $ 60. But also at the time, you and you.
01:03:48
Speaker 4: Didn't have any mainstream boxing credibility which you have a shit ton of now you have a metric shit ton of fucking credibility and in the mainstream space as far as espn is concerned who by the way did you very dirty on snapchat we could talk about that in a second i showed him i can't horrifying what a picture oh my just the picture in the title was mind-blowing and your.
01:04:10
Speaker 1: Face kind of like orients itself in a way he knows what picture you're talking about for sure Yeah, yeah. But the title was... It was like, who cares? It's just Snapchat. Snapchat is brutal. Forget that for a second. Let him get the clicks, bro. He brings it up and he goes, forget that for a second. Because it was just a pit stop. They think you're a fucking... A fucking what? A fucking what? What do you mean? I don't know. You just said... Jake is a hobo. What were you going to say? I'm just curious. I have no idea what you're talking about. Interesting. Well, thanks for joining us, guys. I forgot what I was going to say. Actually, you've... Something about.
01:04:52
Speaker 4: Something about the mainstream boxing.
01:04:55
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
01:04:56
Speaker 1: So now that you have boxing... I didn't say anything. I'm watching you today. I'm fucking onto you. I didn't say anything. I'm this close to having you expose yourself.
01:05:06
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything.
01:05:07
Speaker 1: You didn't, but you almost did. And I saw it. We all saw it. No, I didn't. We saw it. It will be replayed No. I guarantee people are going to be frothing at that moment. No, I don't think. You were assuming. And you know what happens when you assume. You make an ass out of you and me. Don't do this to you. What were you going to say? Me? I was like, Jake's in a rut. See, you judged. You need to stop judging people.
01:05:34
Speaker 5: Before you use that word in that context, I'm pretty sure you had no idea what that word was.
01:05:41
Speaker 4: Rut.
01:05:42
Speaker 1: No, I've been in a rut for a very long time now. I've been swimming in it.
01:05:45
Speaker 4: Disagree.
01:05:46
Speaker 1: I think you've been doing great. Thank you. I appreciate it. What did you think the word was going to have to do with? Like, transgenders or something? What did you think? I don't know.
01:05:52
Speaker 4: Like, where were you going with this? I don't fucking know. Logan, what did you think? The first thing that popped in your head, what did you think it was?
01:06:02
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. It could have been Jake's a rotten kid. It could have been Jake is a, you know? Oh, is there something on this bone you're chewing? Oh, there's something. Oh, really?
01:06:13
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
01:06:14
Speaker 1: Whoa!
01:06:19
Speaker 4: Whoa!
01:06:19
Speaker 1: What the fuck is wrong with you? You're wild. You're wild, dude. I can't believe you said that.
01:06:26
Speaker 4: How did I not notice that's where you're going?
01:06:29
Speaker 1: First of all, shame on all of you guys. I didn't even.
01:06:33
Speaker 3: The fact that you guys think I would say that is kind of ridiculous. Do you even know who I am? And by the way, I was in special ed class growing up. So I kind of could get away with saying that because everybody called me.
01:06:44
Speaker 1: It growing up. Then say it. Crazy right now. Then say it now. I don't feel comfortable saying it now. I feel like I'm being pressured into saying it. Put it on the spot. I don't want to. Mr. Kind of get away with it. Get away with it. I'm okay. I'm going to pass on this one.
01:06:57
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:06:58
Speaker 1: I'm going to get your ass. Yo, what's going on?
01:07:01
Speaker 2: Do you dress yourself when you wake up?
01:07:04
Speaker 1: Do I dress myself? No, God does. Look at his shirt. What's going on right now? I don't like what's going on. Made in heaven. Made in heaven. No, not with you. Why is everyone looking at George and talking about him? I mean, this is not a new thing, bro. I think it is your time, though. To leave? No.
01:07:21
Speaker 5: No.
01:07:22
Speaker 1: I was like, oh. To die? What are you saying? No, I want you. George, it's your time. I think it's your time. Is it? Oh, thank God. I think it's your time. Get it. Okay.
01:07:32
Speaker 3: So, Jake, I'm very excited that you're here right now because this is obviously about me. You guys remember how you guys told me to quit music?
01:07:41
Speaker 1: It was a suggestion.
01:07:42
Speaker 3: And by the way, great suggestion. Great suggestion. And by the way, not one that all of my friends in Arizona have suggested before.
01:07:49
Speaker 1: All of them.
01:07:50
Speaker 3: And it's true, I was terrible at music. But I want to show you a song.
01:07:54
Speaker 1: You weren't terrible. I wasn't terrible? No, you just weren't.
01:07:57
Speaker 3: Dude, you keep giving me these compliments that you get.
01:07:59
Speaker 1: You were never terrible. You were just good.
01:08:02
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:08:02
Speaker 1: And we live in Hollywood. We gotta be a fucking superstar. Okay. So just a little quick....
01:08:09
Speaker 3: Explanation on why I'm showing this to my friends. I'm not doing anything for this song, but I'm very excited.
01:08:16
Speaker 1: You know who Rami is? You did some music with him as a producer. Yes, yeah, of course.
01:08:19
Speaker 3: So he does a lot of people's music, and Tanner Fox is at my house, and he said, dude, I can't believe you know that producer.
01:08:26
Speaker 1: I would love to meet him. So I call him up, and you know, have you ever had a dream? I don't mean.
01:08:30
Speaker 3: You've had a dream. You know how you have a dream and you forget about it? And then you remember when you see somebody or do something? I saw him and I go, whoa, bro, I had a dream about you last night that you produced me a hit song, like something that people actually like.
01:08:43
Speaker 1: And he starts laughing and he goes, bro, you're fucking me. And I go, no, why? He goes, I had that dream last night. And I was like, there's no way. So my girlfriend and Tanner were like, well, you have to go to the studio. What the fuck are you saying? Four people witnessed this.
01:08:55
Speaker 4: You both randomly had a dream about each other. Two men randomly had a fucking person. dream about each other. Do you want me to call him? No, I don't care, but I'm just saying you might have said it and he might have said it, but the fact of it actually happening, I'm sorry it didn't happen. You did not have a dream about Rami the producer. Rami the producer randomly was like, George Janko's going to produce a hit song with me. How the fuck would that happen? In what fucking universe did that happen?
01:09:18
Speaker 1: Y'all just had random dreams about each other. I swear on your new hairline. Oh, shit. We know that's not rock solid. I'm sorry. It looks good. Did I take it too far? No, that's one place. You could have said a lot of things. Really?
01:09:32
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:09:35
Speaker 1: You could have said my stomach. You guys do the push and pull with me so much. It makes me nauseous, bro. If I was on a first date with you guys, I'd be so fucking insecure.
01:09:42
Speaker 4: I would have gone on my flat feet, my fat stomach, drug addiction. The hairline rocks off.
01:09:47
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Smile, hair clean. Anyways, fuck me, bro. Welcome to the emotional rub and tug, brother.
01:09:52
Speaker 3: I just wanted to show you guys because I'm not going into the song.
01:09:59
Speaker 1: I have a freestyle. I came on the song.
01:10:02
Speaker 3: Sorry i'm just throwing a lot of things i might spark some shit on you uh god i'm so nervous now bro but this is what happened he came i came into the studio and he said hey i was working on this song to uh to give it to kanye west's team and uh he goes kanye said he likes hitler no i can't it was about it was about jesus getting nailed to the cross and i freestyled on it i was gonna delete it but then my girlfriend and tanner said it should be out there.
01:10:26
Speaker 1: I would love to show you guys the heart of David Freestyle. You got balls, kid. I'm not a musician. I don't give a fuck.
01:10:31
Speaker 2: George has been preparing us about this song for last night.
01:10:34
Speaker 1: Hey, Kevin. Drop that. Please say drop that. Oh, he's playing it in here? Could you put it up a little bit more? Oh, my God. Is it loud for you.
01:10:43
Speaker 2: Guys?
01:10:44
Speaker 1: Could you put it up more, Kev? How do you guys hear it? It's good, yeah. Oh, how you bled. It must have been a lonely. Oh, way to go.
01:11:00
Speaker 6: I ask God, give me the heart of David. Honestly, I'm not patient. The devil getting frustrated. The weed is making me lazy. A generation full of babies. Honestly, I can't take it. United States, but honestly, I don't think it's united at all. I'm over here looking like I'm about to go fall. My mental illness is taking the toll of it all. Oh, Jesus over here like your homie give it all.
01:11:27
Speaker 1: To me, a prodigy, I ought to be. In epiphany, they be coming at me at night.
01:11:33
Speaker 6: My tongue's sharper than any one of your knives. The demons sweating to see me, they grip on tight. I see your demons, I'm telling them.
01:11:40
Speaker 1: It's on sight.
01:11:41
Speaker 6: I'm just playing, I don't fight, I do pray. I only go the way of Mr.
01:11:46
Speaker 1: Yahweh.
01:11:46
Speaker 6: Try to correct me, but I'm stuck in my old ways. And that way, he don't play like no way. So I gotta get out of my own damn way.
01:11:57
Speaker 5: Soldiers walked around the three signs of peace.
01:12:03
Speaker 4: I mean the cross.
01:12:04
Speaker 1: I mean the crosses. And one of them stuck his sword in the side of the prophet.
01:12:16
Speaker 4: Then the blood came streaming down from his.
01:12:20
Speaker 1: Head and his side. Watch me now. Watch me now.
01:12:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
01:12:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Watch me now, watch me now. Watch me now, watch me now. Yeah. Watch me now. Watch me now. The cross came in and washed me down. I'm a go ahead. Put me on a crown. I'm the son of the Mr.
01:12:47
Speaker 3: Ruler.
01:12:47
Speaker 6: Now the devil's screaming really out loud. He not proud. I got the chains on him now.
01:12:53
Speaker 1: Jesus. Walk shot down.
01:12:56
Speaker 5: Ooh, shot down.
01:12:57
Speaker 1: Mr. AZ hot. Now I bow down to no one unless it's a holy one.
01:13:02
Speaker 6: I'm the only.
01:13:03
Speaker 1: One who's speaking the truth. Are you too? Tell me what you do. Tell me what you choose. Are you having the hell proof? Damn. Damn. That was, that's kind of flame, bro. I'm about to convert. A hundred percent.
01:13:30
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
01:13:31
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Who's first? I can hear Kanye on that. It sounds like Kanye. Yeah, that beat is, dude.
01:13:40
Speaker 3: Somebody came up to me, and Milt said this as well. He goes, bro, you sound black. And I go, thank you.
01:13:46
Speaker 1: I was thrown back by.
01:13:48
Speaker 3: How many people that always wanted me to quit listen to that song, and they're like, what the fuck?
01:13:52
Speaker 1: This doesn't sound like you.
01:13:53
Speaker 4: The beat is crazy. And by the way, that's better coming from you than anything else I've heard. Is that an accurate statement?
01:14:02
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like some of your other songs better, I think.
01:14:05
Speaker 2: I like your tone on that way better. I think the second verse was better for sure.
01:14:11
Speaker 5: And also, it's not like my type of music where it's like preaching.
01:14:15
Speaker 1: That was going to be my question.
01:14:17
Speaker 2: Like when I listen to music, I want to listen to music.
01:14:20
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to church. Fair enough.
01:14:23
Speaker 3: But Kanye had success with, with his, but he's Kanye. I went, I went the first time I rapped on it. I was like, yeah, these months. And the guy stopped and he goes, stop. He goes, just talk about like what you're actually dealing with.
01:14:33
Speaker 1: And I've been praying to have the heart of David. So like, I just went into it. That was cool, bro. That was cool, bro.
01:14:38
Speaker 4: I think like as, as like a passion thing for like, to just do because you want to hop on and spit about something you're passionate about.
01:14:44
Speaker 1: That's fucking fire, bro.
01:14:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to be a musician, but I feel like once in a while when I'm having a lot of things on my chest, I would go into the studio and see if it forms into something that is nice.
01:14:55
Speaker 1: Go for it, bro. I think whatever artistic release. I think it's good. Yeah, it's good.
01:15:02
Speaker 2: And it's good to get those thoughts out.
01:15:05
Speaker 1: No, it was. It felt really, really good. It's like a hip-hop journal. You know what I'm saying? It's therapy. You just journaled hip-hopically. If you would have heard that, would you have thought it was me? I mean, I could tell your voice. I know you so well. Yeah, yeah, probably. Fair enough. Well, thank you guys for letting me play here. Yeah, of course. Of course. We'll probably cut all of it, but it's fine. Come on. Yo, this is crazy right now, bro. What are we even talking about now?
01:15:35
Speaker 2: I think we should do an episode where we talk about, like, Space and time Oh We could snap.
01:15:43
Speaker 1: On a Different dimension Aliens and stars.
01:15:48
Speaker 5: UFOs I'm trying to think if there's anything we talked about on the plane That That was.
01:15:54
Speaker 4: I never got to say anything about Australia ever I love that country dude I just want to give one last shout out to Australia dude That was a There's so much to unpack.
01:16:05
Speaker 1: Your shoes yo Tommy Fury got them shoes Those are cool shoes, bro. Thank you, man.
01:16:11
Speaker 2: I don't think he probably doesn't have these.
01:16:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what's so funny about your shoes? When your feet get hot, you see it get moist in there?
01:16:18
Speaker 4: Oh, does it fog up like a window?
01:16:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need some moist feet, my guy. They need some window. Oh, I got one. I got one. I got something. Yeah, me versus Seth Rollins at WrestleMania. It's going down. Hell yeah. It's official. Oh, actually? Oh, shit. It's going down. It got confirmation. Me versus Seth Rollins. Well, y'all been beefing, bro. You fucking curb stomped him, dude. That's not true. He's been beefing with me. Bro, you put a foot into his dome piece, bro. Yeah, WrestleMania, April 1st in Los Angeles.
01:16:54
Speaker 4: Wow.
01:16:55
Speaker 1: On my birthday. Wow. Crazy, right?
01:16:59
Speaker 4: Your birthday's historically not been the greatest day for you. Not to put any bad vibes.
01:17:05
Speaker 1: Into the sky. I've been thinking about that.
01:17:07
Speaker 4: You got shitty Lambo, shitty shrimp. You had breakups with your brother, breakups with your best friend.
01:17:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. You've had all kinds of shits. April Fool's Day. Shitty day to be born, to be honest. Got hacked on my birthday once. That was terrible. Oh, nightmare. Yeah, you have a terrible... You know why? Because God's like, ha-ha. Fool's... Idiot. I'm a cosmic joke. Yeah. I'm glad everyone else is having fun with it. Who is Seth Rollins? So that's the question that I was asking. Because he sounds like a fucking bitch.
01:17:38
Speaker 4: He goes right into it.
01:17:41
Speaker 1: Damn.
01:17:41
Speaker 5: He actually said some not-so-nice things about your loss.
01:17:45
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. That's crazy. So I didn't know who he was either until I got into wrestling. Apparently, he's pretty big in the wrestling world. I will say. Not that big. Are you fighting Seth Rollins? I'll beat the fuck out of him. I know who he is now. I will say this. He's very good at what he does. He's very good at what he does.
01:18:07
Speaker 5: He's probably top three in the business right now.
01:18:10
Speaker 1: Really?
01:18:11
Speaker 5: And for that reason, it'd be an honor to take him on to WrestleMania.
01:18:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really happy with this matchup. Is he liked? Like, is he a... I don't know.
01:18:19
Speaker 5: I think he's liked because of how good he is at being, like, the villain, kind of conniving, funky energy.
01:18:27
Speaker 1: He has, like, Joker energy a little bit. He was at Royal, wasn't he? Yeah, he was the one I eliminated. That's how this started. That's how this started. Correct, correct. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry.
01:18:39
Speaker 2: Just hard to be afraid of a guy named Seth.
01:18:41
Speaker 1: That is true.
01:18:42
Speaker 3: I think every Seth is like, you smile at a Seth, right?
01:18:46
Speaker 2: Yeah it's like it's like oh like here's like something i feel bad because you're just nothing let me take this even further something let me take this even further you know how like like you're like do you need like water like what's going on seth like you.
01:18:59
Speaker 1: Guys have clearly never run into seth rogan seth seth rogan he's actually exactly who i'm thinking of who's Seth Rogen's not nice? Jake, his nickname? He's so nice. He's the nicest person. I literally said they're all nice. Yeah, because his name's Seth. Seth Rogen. It's like a... Yeah, it's like.
01:19:16
Speaker 4: He's going to come on the show at some point. He's got a company called Houseplant.
01:19:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Bro, he's the nicest person. He's a houseplant. He does Alzheimer's funding, fundraisers. That's... No, that's great. HFC. That's great. Hey, I do have one quick one because you two boys are... Is it okay?
01:19:34
Speaker 4: Because you guys are from Ohio, I just want to say this really quick. I spent a little bit of time with another Ohioan recently in the Gold Coast.
01:19:47
Speaker 1: You also could say Ohioan. Ohioan.
01:19:51
Speaker 4: I was getting on the elevator at the Langham Hotel in the Gold Coast, and a man got off the elevator as I was getting on, and I turned, and I said, that's Dave Chappelle. It was fucking Dave Chappelle randomly on a Tuesday getting off the elevator. And I said, Dave, what are you doing in Australia? And Dave was like, who are you? He goes, Mike, I got it. He goes, Mike, I got a show in Brisbane tonight. Why don't you come?
01:20:19
Speaker 1: So we go to a show.
01:20:21
Speaker 4: And after the show went into his red room because his room is completely red after shows and before shows because it keeps him in like the right mind space or whatever. And I wanted to tell you guys this because I went in there and this man is so, and you know, this obviously is.
01:20:35
Speaker 1: So impressed by what you guys are doing.
01:20:38
Speaker 4: I mean, for, for, you know, 40, pretty much the whole night after that, I got the, you know, opportunity blessing to spend six uninterrupted hours with Chappelle in Brisbane and.
01:20:50
Speaker 1: And go to dinner and go out. I'm so jealous of that. It was incredible.
01:20:54
Speaker 3: Out of all of the trips or Insta stories or anything you've ever done, Mikey, that one, I got so jealous, bro. Like, you got to actually spend time with him.
01:21:05
Speaker 1: So Elp quick. So Elp he has in the past as well, and that's how I met him originally. But not like that. No, bro, the entire night. It was just them. Also, he also had dinner with Arnold. So that's... That was awesome. That's crazy, bro. That was fucking cool. Me, two girls that were with me, and David, the German, and Dave Chappelle. It was just them. For six hours. That's insane.
01:21:25
Speaker 4: We ate steaks together. We went to the club together. We spent an entire night in Brisbane. It was fucking insane.
01:21:30
Speaker 1: You got an unfiltered comedy show. Oh, and he is who he is. You know this. He just is who he is on stage. He is fucking hilarious. That has to be your highlight night.
01:21:41
Speaker 4: It surely is, but one thing I've learned from it is like, I'm telling the story only this part of it, but like, it's something you've always told me is like, you kind of have to protect stories that you tell.
01:21:52
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:21:52
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:21:52
Speaker 4: But I'm the only reason I'm telling you and, and beyond just it being a cool story is because he had so much positive shit to say about you guys, man. And, and I want to, and I want to give you really give you guys flowers from a, from the, from a go of, of industry. I mean, he, he just couldn't stop talking about what you guys have, have done to reinvigorate.
01:22:12
Speaker 1: The sport of boxing.
01:22:13
Speaker 4: And, a sport which has been extremely impactful and important to black culture, which Dave is obviously a fucking leader in and one of the goats of, and just could not stop talking about what you guys have done for the sport. And I just wanted to give you guys that message, and I think you'll probably continue seeing him at your fights.
01:22:36
Speaker 1: You've gotten a chance to both meet him. He's fucking incredible. Legend, bro. Do you see anything about me?
01:22:43
Speaker 4: He's surely seen the show many times. He wants us to go to Yellow Springs.
01:22:48
Speaker 1: But did he say anything? Not specifically, but I think in sentiment, yes. In sentiment.
01:22:53
Speaker 4: But he wants us to go to Yellow Springs and spend some time there, which I think would be fucking awesome.
01:22:59
Speaker 1: Dave is unbelievable.
01:23:01
Speaker 5: That's a one of one right there.
01:23:04
Speaker 1: Dude, this dog has a big head like you, bro.
01:23:06
Speaker 3: Look at this.
01:23:08
Speaker 1: You guys have big heads.
01:23:09
Speaker 5: The first thing he said when he saw how big his head was this time around, he said, dude, that dog has a Jake Paul head.
01:23:15
Speaker 1: That's crazy. No, there's no way you took that offensively. Wait, from you? Yeah. Oh. No, no, no. Bro, your head is larger than the other two. No, I know, I know. No, no, no. That's why girls love it. But did you... I thought you said it... Because it stimulates their vagina better. Nice. Oh, you're talking about... Is that true? Is that true? Yeah. What were you talking about? Your dick. Yeah. Yeah.
01:23:37
Speaker 5: That's what you were talking about.
01:23:39
Speaker 3: When I saw the dog's head, I was like, I've seen this before.
01:23:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:23:44
Speaker 1: You are well endowed. I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you. Thanks, man. You guys want to start this podcast over? I honestly would be down. I'm not even kidding.
01:23:55
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to show you guys this song. I'm going to tell you something.
01:24:00
Speaker 4: Anytime we've ever walked off this show, except for the 300th episode, where we were like, that was not our best episode.
01:24:05
Speaker 1: People were like, that was incredible.
01:24:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I just like fucked that whole episode up.
01:24:10
Speaker 4: When?
01:24:10
Speaker 1: Just right now. Like today. Like the episode we just did. By the penis comet? No, he means just in general.
01:24:18
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:24:19
Speaker 1: No, I was not. No, no, no. Yeah, you had some real good moments. Hi, queen. Is there anything you'd want to add before we? I don't know. We're done. We're done. I don't even know. I don't even want to play. We're not. We're not done. It's fine. Oh, we're not done. OK, we all just sing it out loud. All right. Jake is a hobo. Why you ask me? I got no clue. I'll play the bridge as we go out. All right. Thank you guys for listening to this episode. Yeah, we should do a freestyle to end. No, Logan, Logan. It's tradition. It's tradition. Every time I'm on the episode, we have to freestyle. But we need a beat.
01:25:03
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:25:04
Speaker 1: How are we going to do it?
01:25:07
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:25:07
Speaker 1: Okay. Sports beddings. Get your cheddar. Yeah. Who's better? Most competitors. Celsius versus Prime.
01:25:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Drink slime. I got a pump. I use it to fill my bike tires.
01:25:19
Speaker 3: I'm tired.
01:25:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I don't make content. My sentiment is feeling kind of corny. But I'm horny because I ain't been fucking. So I'm trucking. Get that dick sucking. Big luck. Big daddy fucks. Eat your cake. Pass it to Jake. Pass it to me.
01:25:41
Speaker 2: I got the rock now. I'm feeling hot now. It's my shot now.
01:25:45
Speaker 1: I took a loss now.
01:25:47
Speaker 2: I'm finna make it back. I'm finna smoke some crack. I'm finna smoke some crack. I'm finna put some crack in the mucking back. It's like a Big Mac. Do it black in the Cadillac. Going hella fast.
01:25:59
Speaker 1: Oh!
01:26:00
Speaker 2: Oh!
01:26:19
Speaker 5: Pass it to the bro. I ain't gonna fuck Jake's hoes. I'm gonna attack this beat and Jake does crack.
01:26:24
Speaker 1: That's heat. Yeah. Miami. We're going down this weekend to Lele Pons wedding. Wedding. Wedder. Cheddar. Get some bread. I make some bread. I... Whoa. I'm about to hurl if you talk about....
01:26:42
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, we can't do these freestyles. We can't because I just say fucked up shit. Well, his brain wasn't in the right place.
01:26:49
Speaker 1: We should start over. The whole episode. Yeah. Yes. And the freestyles too. Can't talk about....
01:26:57
Speaker 4: Better off dead, leaving the couch sticking in her mouth.
01:27:01
Speaker 1: Logan. We're done.
01:27:03
Speaker 5: Gables.
01:27:04
Speaker 1: Gables. We're going to Miami. Lely Pond's wedding. Lely.
01:27:08
Speaker 6: Lely.
01:27:08
Speaker 1: Lely Pond's wedding. Lely. Lely. Lely Pond's wedding.
01:27:10
Speaker 3: Lely.
01:27:10
Speaker 2: Lely.
01:27:11
Speaker 1: Lely Pond's wedding. Lely. Tropical puns.
01:27:28
Speaker 4: And second of all, as the highest and most biggest promoter of prime in the history.
01:27:32
Speaker 1: Don't give me any fucking shit. UFC, Dana White, Dana White, Dana White. Adesanya, Adesanya, Adesanya. Masvidal, Masvidal, Masvidal. Fighter Pay, Fighter Pay. UFC, UFC, prime, prime, prime, prime, prime, prime. KSI, KSI, Simon, bang, bang. What do you fucking want from me? What do you fucking want from me? What do you fucking want from me, dude? I'm good now. I'm good. I was just wondering. Damn this shit. Fucking dude. I'm fired up! Prime! Drink Prime!
01:27:58
Speaker 4: What do you fucking want from me?
01:28:07
Speaker 1: What do you fucking want from me? That's all I wanted. I have no equity!
Speaker 1: Would you consider a KSI fight?
00:00:01
Speaker 2: KSI has never fought anyone good.
00:00:03
Speaker 1: I'm probably laughing because he's laughing.
00:00:05
Speaker 3: Why?
00:00:05
Speaker 1: Because he fought you. Let's address the elephant in a room. You got your ass kicked. You let all of us down, including Drake. Can we start this episode over?
00:00:14
Speaker 4: Bro.
00:00:15
Speaker 1: Me versus Seth Rollins at WrestleMania. Who is Seth Rollins?
00:00:18
Speaker 2: Because he sounds like a f * * * ing d.
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Speaker 1: * * *.
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Speaker 4: He was the highest, biggest promoter of Prime in the history. Don't give me anything. I'm fired up!
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Speaker 1: Take Prime!
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Speaker 5: Jake, are you ready?
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Speaker 1: I'm always ready. We'll see. No way. Yes.
00:01:02
Speaker 5: A job and a life, but no, he doesn't listen. Because he is a hobo. He lives in a shopping cart and a backpack.
00:01:18
Speaker 1: Is his roof. Yo, classic. Welcome back to Impulsive, the number one podcast in the world. Thank you guys for listening, watching, viewing, and subscribing.
00:01:27
Speaker 5: What you just heard was the first ever music video song that Jake and I made as 10 and 11 year old YouTubers.
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Speaker 1: It was a song called Jake is a Hobo. Banger. Banger. Banger. You have to put the music video up too. You had a music video? Bro. And he's like playing the piano. It was gnarly.
00:01:46
Speaker 5: Jake's dressed in hobo outfit eating his thumb. I'm like in the bushes.
00:01:49
Speaker 3: Out of all the songs the Pauls have ever released, that is my favorite by a long shot.
00:01:54
Speaker 5: We have been at this for a while. Jake, I found my old MacBook from 2007, dude.
00:01:59
Speaker 1: And all the videos are on it. Been having a field day. You wouldn't believe the content that we made. No way.
00:02:04
Speaker 5: And I'm obviously two years older than you, so I'm wondering how much of it you remember.
00:02:08
Speaker 1: Do you remember Scarred?
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: No, I remember these videos are on a Google Drive, though. Are they? Yeah. Yeah, I have the Google Drive. Oh, no way. But it's the unreleased random ones that are sometimes the funniest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the outtakes.
00:02:22
Speaker 5: Seeing how I was as a child in the bloopers is so much more entertaining to me than... just watching the actual shitty content that we made back then.
00:02:31
Speaker 1: Cause it was pretty, we were hilarious in those.
00:02:34
Speaker 4: That song's radio ready. I heard that song last night, dude. And we had to sit on it all night to play it for the podcast today. And I want, dude, I could listen to that song at the gym. I could play that song for a.
00:02:44
Speaker 1: Girl on a date. Like MTV made the Seamus one. Yeah. Yeah. Next level.
00:02:49
Speaker 4: I want to, I want to set the stage beyond just being in Puerto Rico. You don't give a shit about this show anymore.
00:02:53
Speaker 1: Let's be honest.
00:02:55
Speaker 4: Even if you did, it's like going, it's like, it's like bands that hate each other that have to get on stage and play for the audience. Like, yo, let's do our hits. So we don't, we don't even fucking like each other. That's not true.
00:03:07
Speaker 1: I like Mike. George.
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Speaker 5: You don't say.
00:03:13
Speaker 1: People are like, how do you let them treat you like that? I go, on camera is a blessing.
00:03:16
Speaker 3: You should be behind the fucking scenes.
00:03:18
Speaker 4: George is dancing on my counters all morning with his dick out. First of all, my dick was not out.
00:03:23
Speaker 1: You should see behind the scenes. I hope they see behind the scenes. That mic sounds so bad. Jake, I'm nervous for this episode. When they say, how do you let them Put up with that shit or whatever. Just say money. Oh, that is. That is. That is the reason. The money's not even that good, bro. It's fucking pathetic, to be honest. It's so true. It's really bad. I found out what Nelk makes, and I was like, I got to switch teams, bro. That part's not true. What, Bob Menry? Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob. Bob Menry. Can we get the.
00:03:54
Speaker 1: Jake, I'm nervous for this episode. Why? I'll tell you why.
00:03:57
Speaker 5: You're our number one most recurring guest, and I think this may be the most pivotal episode featuring Jake Paul we've ever had. I mean, let's address the elephant in a room. You just beat Tommy Fury.
00:04:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, 7-0. It's honestly really good. Really good. Going to the.
00:04:15
Speaker 2: Amalfi Coast tomorrow to celebrate with a yacht.
00:04:18
Speaker 1: Great.
00:04:18
Speaker 5: No, so the opposite happened. No, you had a pretty difficult loss to Tommy Fury. a member of the Fury family this past weekend, and we were able to snag you to get you on this episode to talk about just how you're feeling.
00:04:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was you. It was you. In Saudi Arabia, it was you. Split decision, loss. Tough call. I lost. Only by a couple points, but, you know, it happened.
00:04:44
Speaker 5: And I'm here to ask you, you know, brother to brother, I know we've been talking and going through about how you're feeling.
00:04:49
Speaker 1: About what? You got your ass kicked. About what?
00:04:52
Speaker 6: Whoa.
00:04:54
Speaker 1: About what? Dude, Tommy fucks you up, bro.
00:04:56
Speaker 3: It's me. I'm in like shooting range and I feel like I still got a strong right, brother.
00:05:02
Speaker 1: He does.
00:05:03
Speaker 4: He does.
00:05:03
Speaker 1: Watch out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm feeling great. Yeah. Honestly. Well, that's it. Honestly, that's it. So I was thinking about this. I was thinking about it today.
00:05:14
Speaker 2: Like, damn, I feel like people probably get like really, really sad over a loss. But I mean, it just doesn't feel.
00:05:19
Speaker 1: Like a loss.
00:05:20
Speaker 5: I was reading some comments on the podcast that we put out on BS with Jake Paul. And people seem to be really supportive because you're handling it so well.
00:05:30
Speaker 1: And truthfully, one of the comments said this. I'll just reiterate it.
00:05:32
Speaker 5: But the only place that it really seems like you lost is on your boxing record.
00:05:37
Speaker 1: 100%. This is a gift from the universe.
00:05:40
Speaker 2: But if we're talking about in terms of life and my personal growth as a human being, then this is a gift from the universe.
00:05:48
Speaker 5: This is a win.
00:05:50
Speaker 2: Because I want to be happy and love myself and have eternal confidence regardless of any situation. And this put me so many steps closer to that because I thought my identity lied so much in winning and beating everyone and being undefeated and being some badass tough person who never loses. I'm this, I'm that, boom, making all this money. And after I lost, I was like, you know what? None of that's like what actually makes me awesome. My identity is just who I am, and that's all I need to be.
00:06:19
Speaker 1: And that's good enough. That was nice. But now that the identity politics are over, I got to ask you this question, Jake. What the fuck happened, bro? You let all of us fucking down, including Drake. What happened, bro?
00:06:31
Speaker 4: I appreciate you, and I know a lot of learning lessons are tied to our failures and losses. Look at this fucking kid. The only reason he's here right now is because how many times he fucked up. But I need to know right now what went wrong, bro.
00:06:42
Speaker 1: Everything. Tommy didn't win the fight. I lost it.
00:06:46
Speaker 2: I was not good. I was not on my A game. I didn't implement the game plan. My legs were weak going into the fight. I think I cut the weight improperly in such like a seven week camp. Normally we do like 12 week camps because I'm behind the eight ball. I got to catch up to these guys. I got to be extra sharp. We squeezed in this camp. I mean, bro, I don't even want to sit here and make excuses. Like I just, I lost the fight. I wasn't at my best and it's, it's that simple.
00:07:16
Speaker 3: Do you feel like kind of relieved now in the next fight? You're like, you got the loss out of the way. So it's like, there's no more like perfect record. So you could just go in being a fighter. Yeah, no, a hundred percent.
00:07:25
Speaker 2: I think the pressure, you know, a little bit of pressure is good, but I think I had a lot, a lot, a lot of pressure and the stakes just kept on getting higher and higher after each fight. So yeah, now there's definitely like more relaxation going into it. And a lot of things played a factor, man. Like even now, even getting a point deducted, like right away in the first round, I'm like, damn, now I'm already down another round.
00:07:49
Speaker 1: Sorry. Now I got to fight even harder. I think it was two or three.
00:07:52
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:07:52
Speaker 1: That's what I meant in the beginning. Oh, the first. Okay. Got it. In the beginning of the fight.
00:07:56
Speaker 2: And, um, it's like, damn, like now I'm already, but down another round and it's only like the third or fourth round. So now I have to fight even harder to gain that round back. And then you start making sloppy mistakes and stuff. But, Dude, I don't know.
00:08:12
Speaker 1: It's the hardest sport in the world, and you have to have a peak moment.
00:08:16
Speaker 2: You're only able to show up in that one moment on that one night, and if you're not feeling good, if you're not feeling in your flow state, if your legs are weak, whatever you're feeling, it's just not there.
00:08:28
Speaker 1: You can't really fake it.
00:08:29
Speaker 5: It's part of the reason I have so much respect for fighters because there is no excuse for you to not be at 100% when you walk into that ring in a world where excuses run rampant.
00:08:40
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:08:42
Speaker 5: If you don't wake up on the day and feel 100%, too bad.
00:08:47
Speaker 1: You still got to fight.
00:08:48
Speaker 5: You still got to back your words up and show up at 100%. And good luck if you're feeling like shit that day. If you wake up that morning and sneeze three times.
00:08:58
Speaker 4: That still will forever be the best thing I've ever heard.
00:09:02
Speaker 1: I did not sneeze three times. Three times. Fuck it. That was hilarious. Did that happen to you?
00:09:09
Speaker 5: No, no.
00:09:09
Speaker 3: I will say, I told Bell when I saw you on TV when you were coming out of the locker room, I go, he's not in it right now.
00:09:15
Speaker 1: I was flat. Very, very flat.
00:09:17
Speaker 4: When me and him connected, I want to talk tactically about the fight quite a bit or for a little bit. But when we connected after the fight, I personally have always looked at you as a fighter. you are a fighter and I, and I, and a real fucking fighter. And I, and I look at KSI in a similar department. I want to, and I want to talk about that down the line, but when you went out there and I, and I watched that fight and I downloaded it and digested it. When I, when I thought to myself, what had just happened, it looked to me like you were a fighter. And Tommy Fury was a little bit of a better boxer.
00:09:49
Speaker 1: He's a boxer.
00:09:49
Speaker 4: And I want to ask you, on your good day, on your perfect day, wake up, feel great, legs feel great, in the zone, are you as good of a boxer as Tommy Fury?
00:10:00
Speaker 2: Fury is yeah 100% I beat him I believe like nine eight to nine times out of ten and this just happened to be one of those times um and it is what it is he had a great performance by the way.
00:10:12
Speaker 1: I was gonna say he stepped up to the plate.
00:10:15
Speaker 5: I was gonna say I you talked about pressure earlier and you did have a lot of pressure but Guess who else.
00:10:19
Speaker 1: Had a ton of fucking pressure? He had more Tommy Fury, dude.
00:10:23
Speaker 5: And, and, and, and that type of pressure can crack someone when, when he was walking out, you know, I wasn't sure if I saw him, I don't know, quivering a little bit or, or, or if he was going to step up to the plate and, and, and, and he did step up to the plate and, I got to be honest, although I talk shit about him, and I'll probably continue to, the guy was a warrior that night, and he stepped up to the plate in a big fucking way, big bullocks on that guy. He made his family proud, and I said it before, but congrats to the Furies, even though you beat my little brother.
00:10:57
Speaker 1: No, congrats to them, bro.
00:10:59
Speaker 2: Overnight superstar made the kid a millionaire, and I don't see why there's not a reason to run it back at some point.
00:11:08
Speaker 1: You know, the.
00:11:09
Speaker 2: Business side of it was massive. It was one of the biggest events in boxing in, you know, recent years. It'll probably be the biggest fight of this year.
00:11:20
Speaker 1: Can you say the numbers? I can't. I can't. But it's massive. Really, really massive. Can you say it and can we bleep them out? Yeah. Let's do something like that. Yeah. The pay-per-view is... Buzz. Fat.
00:11:36
Speaker 2: Ooh.
00:11:37
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's sick. That's a lot.
00:11:40
Speaker 5: So that's why I'm pumped for the rematch because I think when you beat Tommy, it'll set up the perfect trilogy fight and everyone from their generation remembers these epic trilogy fights. And if you and Tommy had our dance partners for years down the line, just going back and forth, I think it's just so entertaining.
00:11:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I guess for him, I think he has to like prove himself because from his standpoint, you know, he's, He came up to me afterwards, too, when we were in the medical offices. He's like, bro, you did great. I've been doing this since I was six. And when I think about it, I'm like, damn, like, what have you been doing for all those years? Because you're not that good. Like, I've been doing this for three years.
00:12:16
Speaker 1: You just wiped his face on your ass with that comment.
00:12:20
Speaker 4: Hey, man.
00:12:21
Speaker 1: You did a really good job.
00:12:22
Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, well, you fucking suck, bro. You started at six. What the fuck have you been doing?
00:12:26
Speaker 1: Honestly, though. It's true. Jake's been doing this for three years. For three years. And I put him down onto the canvas.
00:12:32
Speaker 2: And arguably, so many analysts, so many professional judges, so many professional fighters scored me to win the fight. So in Tommy's, I'm just saying from his point.
00:12:44
Speaker 1: Of view, I think he should want to come back in.
00:12:47
Speaker 2: Really silenced me and beat me in a proper way and not a controversial win.
00:12:52
Speaker 4: Beyond other people making that statement, and I won't share my feelings on it just yet, but I want to ask you, do you in your heart feel like there's any way that that fight could have been a victory for you?
00:13:05
Speaker 1: I think it was a draw, honestly. I think you would have been lucky to get a draw. I think he beat you.
00:13:10
Speaker 2: Regardless, yeah, I haven't watched the fight. That's what I'm saying. I'm not sitting here and saying that I should have won or whatever. I'm saying like it probably could have been a draw.
00:13:19
Speaker 1: It could have been a draw.
00:13:21
Speaker 2: But all I'm saying is that Tommy should want to come back and like actually beat me properly.
00:13:27
Speaker 1: Kind of like when I beat Tyron Woodley, it was controversial. Like a knockout.
00:13:31
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:13:31
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. The first time. Oh, sorry. It was controversial.
00:13:34
Speaker 2: It was kind of like, damn, that could have gone either way. And I wanted to come back and prove myself. And the saying of the next fight was leave no doubt. And so I think that that's the beauty of what Tommy should do here is leave no doubt.
00:13:46
Speaker 5: So this is where it gets interesting because what's going to convince him to do that? Why would he fight you again knowing you were at about 70%?
00:13:54
Speaker 1: Money. Money, right?
00:13:57
Speaker 3: And also it's the biggest stage he's going to be boxing on right now.
00:14:00
Speaker 5: But he did it technically once. How do you get him back in that ring?
00:14:03
Speaker 1: Dude, that's a weird question too because he's saying 70%. We're sitting here.
00:14:08
Speaker 4: Saying 70%, but Tommy could be sitting in the UK saying, bro, that was easy work. Even if he was at a hundred percent, that was easy work. That's just what we're saying. So you can't like try.
00:14:17
Speaker 1: To get him at 70%. No, no, I get that.
00:14:20
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying in Tommy's eyes, he might just look at that and be like, I don't care if he's 70, 90, 150, bro.
00:14:24
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.
00:14:26
Speaker 2: I don't know.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: I don't know any easy work that went to. No, no, no.
00:14:28
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is he may, he may just look at that as just like an excuse.
00:14:32
Speaker 1: But, but again, it's, it's money.
00:14:34
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Speaker 3: I think the only thing that I disliked that Tommy and his family did was try to take your purse after they cowered out of the bed.
00:15:54
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little.
00:15:55
Speaker 5: Dude, I've seen these videos of John Fury and Tommy Fury, and they're like, pay up, Jake Paul. Except I remember you, Brandon, in the locker room when John Fury was watching you get your hands wrapped. Brandon was fucking antagonizing him. And he goes, hey, about that contract, about the purse, why didn't you guys sign it?
00:16:13
Speaker 1: Why didn't you return it? And John Fury just cowers into a little ball and goes, let's talk about boxing, mate. We're focused on boxing now.
00:16:19
Speaker 5: And I'm in the background just stunned because I've just seen this dude in real time, for the first time, show his hand.
00:16:25
Speaker 1: They weren't willing to actually sign the contract.
00:16:27
Speaker 5: And then after the fight, when they won, now they're going and talking about being gypsies, how they can't read and write, and they expect you to pay up on something that they 1,000% wouldn't have if you had won the fight.
00:16:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everyone sees through it and is calling him out on it, so much so that Jon Fury deleted the tweets.
00:16:43
Speaker 1: Oh, he did? Yeah. Oh, I didn't see. Thank you, Jon. I appreciate it. I didn't see that narrative unfold. What I was going to say. That happened like hours ago.
00:16:50
Speaker 4: Oh, okay. What I was going to say earlier when you were talking about the walkout, where I was interrupting you while you were speaking, was he walked out to Creedence Clearwater Revival, to CCR, Fortunate Son. And when I saw him walking out to that song, my first thought was, don't you dare walk out to that song. That is the song our helicopters flying to Vietnam listening to in every movie. And I also said to myself, this is bad. I said, this is a great fucking song, dude.
00:17:21
Speaker 1: The Iron Man song? He was in Iron Man? When Iron Man, you know, started getting ready. I don't know how long I'm going to be on this show for. Dude, in my head I heard.
00:17:46
Speaker 4: What surprised you the most about Tommy's approach? When he got in that ring, I didn't know what to expect. I hadn't seen tapes. I didn't know what he was going to come at you with. And I automatically saw, this is going to sound kind of weird, but I automatically saw a little bit of your bro in him in that he's a he's a big fucking kid dude he's a big dude and he throws a very good one his jet his jab to me at least looked like it was keeping you off of him and he was and his plan at least in the early rounds looked like it was stick the one and move stick the one.
00:18:19
Speaker 1: And move not and not move left because that.
00:18:22
Speaker 4: Was into the uh range of your right overhand right What about his approach surprised you and made you maybe respect him a little bit more?
00:18:32
Speaker 2: Just his combinations, honestly. That was the best thing. His hand speed, yeah. And his number of punches was his best attribute, for sure. That's what was winning the close rounds for him, was that he was putting combinations together better.
00:18:48
Speaker 5: I have a confession. So after the fight, I told you this, I was gutted. I was just so confident. in you as I'm sure you were so confident in me when I lost the KSI. And I think I made a mistake in being really verbal about my confidence, especially to the documentary crew that was following you around for the past eight months to a year. I said, uh, I told them, I said, uh, I said, it is so abundantly clear to me the outcome of this fight. I said, if Jake loses to Tommy, he's straight up bitch made.
00:19:30
Speaker 1: I said that, dude. I said it. And I feel so bad now.
00:19:35
Speaker 5: I'm going to get fucking Curb Your Enthusiasm memed on this documentary when it comes out in November or October. And I'm sorry. I'm telling you now, I'm sorry.
00:19:45
Speaker 1: I just like.
00:19:46
Speaker 5: I mean, same, but like, bro, who cares? I care because I feel bad. Yeah, but it's like, it's part of the game. It's shit talk.
00:19:55
Speaker 2: And by the way, we had that confidence and I think that confidence is still there like on a good night, honestly. But it's definitely going to be interesting. And by the way, if the rematch happens before then, When I win.
00:20:10
Speaker 1: That's true. It's going to be all good.
00:20:12
Speaker 4: That's true.
00:20:13
Speaker 1: That's true. It's going to be good.
00:20:14
Speaker 5: Do you think your wet dream played a part of it at all? Bro, I don't know if we should talk about this. I do want to talk about it because I know you didn't want to, but mom said, she said, Jake had a wet dream the night before his fight. I sparked up and I said, no fucking way. I had a wet dream the day of the KSI fight. Why are you guys talking to your moms about that?
00:20:35
Speaker 1: Very open family. Yeah, very open family.
00:20:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:37
Speaker 1: Too open. Too open. I don't think so. I think it's probably a bit healthy.
00:20:40
Speaker 2: It's probably healthy to talk about sex with your kids. That's probably why.
00:20:44
Speaker 1: You know what I used to say growing up? That's probably why you're like this.
00:20:46
Speaker 3: My parents used to be like, that's some white people shit. That's what I used to say.
00:20:50
Speaker 5: Nice.
00:20:50
Speaker 3: That's some white people shit, bro.
00:20:52
Speaker 4: WPS.
00:20:52
Speaker 5: But dude, our lives really do run so parallel. And I know you had been in boxing terms, what they call building your batch. So essentially what you do is you don't. release um in order to build up that testosterone in your body to make you just like some angry fucking fight i fucked myself literally literally over what what was your dream about yeah that's what i wanted to know i don't actually even remember just like you nutted and forgot nah nah you nut and you go oh no because i woke i literally woke up in a panic like fuck where was the nut fuck worst thing ever where's.
00:21:26
Speaker 1: The nut Like where, like right now? No, no. Like when, how did you, how did you make this shocking discovery?
00:21:33
Speaker 2: Are you like right after you wake up and you like Joel out of it? And I was like, it's the worst thing ever when you can't stop it either.
00:21:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:21:40
Speaker 2: Cause, cause bro, you have like two weeks, you have two weeks of testosterone build up, built up. And so the reason a wet dream happens is because your body like needs to release that energy. It like knows inside of it's in your mind. It's like, this is not good. And Yeah, I fucked myself.
00:21:55
Speaker 3: That probably was like an explosion, bro. 100% his dream was him standing above Tommy knocking him out.
00:22:03
Speaker 2: But yeah, it makes your legs weak. I guess the viewers, that's why it's bad is it makes your legs weak. Oh.
00:22:10
Speaker 1: Why does it make your legs weak?
00:22:12
Speaker 2: Because the sperm is stored in your legs and it has something to do with the neurological connection of like, you.
00:22:19
Speaker 1: Did exactly what you were put on this earth to do.
00:22:22
Speaker 2: So you become like relaxed and oxytocin goes through your body and you kind of like just get lax.
00:22:29
Speaker 1: And then, and then once you, I don't know what I needed to do. It's, it's really bad guys.
00:22:36
Speaker 2: It's really, and then once you start getting hit in the head, you're, that's why you're like, if you notice when fighters are about to get knocked out, their legs start like jumping all over the place. That's because you're, you're ahead in your legs. Like, are connected once you're getting hit in it.
00:22:51
Speaker 4: Did you nut and sneeze on the first? Oh, so you were just losing all your shit. Just to clarify.
00:22:58
Speaker 1: You lost because you nutted. I just said that. I just fucking said that. No, but I'm just saying, is that why you didn't feel good? I think it's one of many reasons.
00:23:09
Speaker 5: I remember what happened to me mentally. I was kind of destroyed. a little bit. You had just done this thing that isn't easy for three weeks to a month, holding your batch, you're building your batch, and it's not easy. And then on the day of the fucking fight, all your progress is destroyed, and you're back to zero.
00:23:32
Speaker 1: And it isn't like a little release, by the way. It's a lot, dude. Could you take a Viagra or a Blue Chew? Does that help in any type of way?
00:23:41
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:23:42
Speaker 1: What is wrong?
00:23:43
Speaker 4: What?
00:23:43
Speaker 1: Oh, what is wrong with me? What is wrong with me? I'm the wrong one. I'm the wrong one. Well, the question you're... Oh, no.
00:23:55
Speaker 4: Mom.
00:23:56
Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe what just happened. I just nutted in my dreams. All right, I got to call dad. Don't call you right back. Wait, but I want to know your logic. Why would you think taking a Viagra would help in this situation? I don't know what is the fucking.
00:24:07
Speaker 1: You don't know, huh? I didn't know about the nutting in the legs. You're just saying stuff. You don't know anything then, huh?
00:24:12
Speaker 3: If we didn't do that, it wouldn't be called impulsive. It would just be called thoroughly thought out ideas. What do you know? Good question. That's my fucking brother.
00:24:24
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I'll get back to you guys.
00:24:27
Speaker 3: I'll get back to you guys. Do you think maybe you had a Roman swipe? Because a Roman swipe makes the ones make you last longer. Is that what you meant?
00:24:37
Speaker 1: Oh, that would have worked. Yeah, did you just misfire? That's what I meant. No, it wasn't.
00:24:41
Speaker 3: I meant the Roman wipes because you know how they do it in Rome. I don't know what the fuck Roman wipes are.
00:24:49
Speaker 4: Curb your enthusiasm moment he's talking about where he gets clipped because of something he said.
00:24:54
Speaker 1: I don't know what curb your enthusiasm is. Just forget it. What's the theme song? Can we start this episode over?
00:25:00
Speaker 5: Bro.
00:25:01
Speaker 1: I think we should.
00:25:05
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
00:25:06
Speaker 5: Quick, the theme song for Curb Your Enthusiasm.
00:25:12
Speaker 1: Copyrighted immediately. Should I be more sad? No, just hear me out. Should I cry? Be good for the clickbait. Yeah. Like right now? Are you going to cry? No. Okay.
00:25:29
Speaker 4: What just happened to you, this combat-related humbling, which we have seen before?
00:25:35
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? You're good. That's good. Unbelievable. Okay, can I ask you this? I think we should start over. No, no, no, listen.
00:25:55
Speaker 4: Does it affect the amount of just unrelinquished, relentless shit-talking that you do prior to the next fight? Because this was, like, a big thing that I saw. Like, a lot of people wanted to talk about this. Like, for example, somebody clipped your.
00:26:14
Speaker 1: pre-fight thing that was like, tomorrow's the day, Tommy! Tomorrow's the day! And then the post-fight where it's like, welp, guys! Whoops!
00:26:24
Speaker 2: It's part of the game, for sure. Definitely look like a fucking idiot. I think this shit's hilarious, too. It's like the Bryce Hall, like, I'm a professional boxer.
00:26:35
Speaker 1: I have never said I'm a boxer. Now it's me. Now it's me. I respect it. I think it's funny.
00:26:42
Speaker 2: But Definitely the shit talk is turned down a notch, for sure, if there is a rematch.
00:26:49
Speaker 1: No, don't do that. It's more actions. It's not necessarily... I don't know if it's the shit talk, but less disrespect. You respect them more. Yeah, exactly. More... You know, kudos. Good job. Good job.
00:27:02
Speaker 4: But do you also feel like that is such a factor in your sales and marketing for the fights? Like, if you look at somebody like Conor, when Conor comes off an L, that doesn't affect his shit-talking going into the next fight.
00:27:16
Speaker 1: In fact, it might even make it more. He actually talks about your wife. Yeah. He does. That's what he did. What do you do?
00:27:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it kind of just depends what mood I'm in. Like, sometimes I just want to talk shit. Sometimes I'm just like, I don't. I don't really care, but I guess even going into the second Woodley fight, I wasn't really talking as much. It could still be very entertaining and it's still a massive buildup, but I don't know if those words are necessarily needed, but I guess we'll see.
00:27:48
Speaker 1: I'm really a moody person.
00:27:50
Speaker 2: Whatever I feel that morning, that day, right now I'm just super chill. Don't give it just vibing. Some days I wake up and I'm like, would just want to troll and be like a little demon and like shake up the internet and talk, talk shit. So, uh, that's why there's like so many, I think different sides of me and my persona.
00:28:09
Speaker 5: I have to know, uh, again, I told you this, but watching you just kind of digest what had just happened after the fight was really interesting. Cause I could keenly relate to what you're experiencing almost, almost to the T right. Split decision, loss points taken away. It didn't make sense to me at the time because I had worked so hard. I had manifested it.
00:28:30
Speaker 1: Nutted the night before.
00:28:31
Speaker 5: Nutted the night before. Even that, which is so fucking weird. We're literally the same person, bro.
00:28:35
Speaker 1: It's weird as fuck. That is a little weird. That's very, very weird. And things like this happen like all the time.
00:28:42
Speaker 2: Like random little nuances that are completely just.
00:28:48
Speaker 1: Out of nowhere. And we both have experienced or done something like it.
00:28:52
Speaker 5: And the one thing that I remember after my loss is Everyone was saying stuff to me, but like nothing was really landing, nor in my heart did I feel like it mattered. And even when it first happened, I seen like one of the random ring guys like start talking to you about like, he's like, you.
00:29:08
Speaker 1: Know, everyone loses in boxing.
00:29:10
Speaker 5: Like right away, people are just trying to chirp in your ear to make you feel better. And it's annoying because nothing really gets to you. But was there something that anyone said that actually did make it in there that affected you in a positive way regarding this loss?
00:29:25
Speaker 1: That's a great question.
00:29:28
Speaker 2: I think after the initial shock of about 24 to 36 hours, a lot of the stuff that people had said to me and that were texting me. collectively started to think or sink in. But I think the most important things were the discoveries I was making through my own personal thoughts and journaling and the things I was telling myself and actually feeling because someone could tell you You look beautiful, but if you don't actually believe that yourself, then you're never going to grow or believe that, obviously. And easier said than done. But it was definitely a collective. I received more praise and love and support after the loss from friends and fighters and all sorts of people than I did after winning. And I was like, damn, I should just keep losing because.
00:30:21
Speaker 1: This is great. This is really great. Join the club, bro. All the love. Join the club. It's not so bad. This guy's the mayor of the club. He's there every Thursday.
00:30:32
Speaker 5: I also want to know because we talk about manifestation a lot on this show. And I'm pretty big into manifesting. I was really big into manifesting growing up. And I think some people know this story. Like when I first moved to Hollywood, right? Look in the mirror 10 times every morning, every night, repeat to myself, I will be the biggest entertainer in the world. I will be the biggest entertainer in the world. No matter if I was partying, drunk, someone was at my house, whatever. And I didn't care how weird it was.
00:31:02
Speaker 1: I did it.
00:31:03
Speaker 5: And I manifested in a really, really intense way for both KSI fights that I would win those fights. The first one was a draw. So then I told myself and rationalized my manifestation, not working with, okay, well, I'll get them on the next one. That's, that's when it's supposed to come true, right? That's when my destiny is going to, is going to make sense to me. And then I manifested even harder and it didn't come true the second time. And truthfully, since then, bro, I've kind of stopped manifesting in that way because I believed it so much. So much so I had so much conviction in that my reality was I was going to win that fight. And that's just not how life unfolded that night for you because you even manifest more than me. If you go into his bathroom, guys, there's paper all over his mirrors about his goals and his ambitions. Is it going to affect how you talk and try to speak your reality or your vision into reality?
00:32:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've definitely been battling with this thought for sure. But I think that manifestation is almost like a cherry on top.
00:32:08
Speaker 1: It's like that extra little bit of belief.
00:32:11
Speaker 2: And psychological warfare with yourself and basically essentially like you're hypnotizing your own thoughts and creating an energy around yourself that's tangible and it seeps into the pores of other people. And then this collectively becomes a bigger energy and a bigger thought. And then if it keeps on growing and growing and growing, that's when the manifestation can come to fruition and actually turn into something. But again, it's only probably 10% of it. And if you don't do it, then yeah, if you don't believe in it, then it's not real 100%. But you still have to be physically present, physically there, mentally ready, willing to die, so many things.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: But it's one piece of the puzzle. And if.
00:33:00
Speaker 2: It worked 100% of the time, then none of us would be sitting here that there's no beauty in that. There's no, that's not life. That's not how shit works. Cause we, we would all just wake up in the morning and be like tomorrow, I'm going to find a billion dollars. And you say that a hundred fucking times, but it's just.
00:33:19
Speaker 1: If you're not putting in the work, then it's not going to matter. That's what I'm saying.
00:33:21
Speaker 5: I put in the work, bro. I felt like I could control my destiny. And then when my destiny was like, nah, bitch, I'm your destiny.
00:33:27
Speaker 1: I'm doing what I want. But you can't. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You could put in the work.
00:33:31
Speaker 2: You can do all of the things, but still, the destiny is already, I guess, predetermined.
00:33:39
Speaker 1: In some sense. Yeah, it was written.
00:33:43
Speaker 2: And you still, that's why I said it's only the cherry on top. And even if you were Physically ready. You were physically ready. Like, did you have the right coaches? Did you nut the night before the fight? All of these things could throw off so many different aspects and the butterfly effect of each decision that you make is massive. And by the way, you could still say the things out loud in the mirror. Like I, Jake Paul will win.
00:34:08
Speaker 1: Blah, blah, blah. But if you don't fully believe it, I think that's also. part of the problem. Cause then you start to second guess those other thoughts.
00:34:19
Speaker 4: There's an issue with not doing it. And that just really quickly, I'm not a big manifester. And what that does as a negative for me sometimes is a neutral brain and a brain that is at rest will sometimes produce thoughts that are counter productive to victory. And so by flooding your day, flooding your dialogue with positive reinforcements, uh, that is acting as a shield against what a resting brain or mind may do on its own. Because the last thing you want to do is walk into that ring saying to yourself, yo, there's a chance I might lose today.
00:34:55
Speaker 2: No, see, thoughts are so powerful though.
00:34:58
Speaker 4: And in fights, I've heard that it can be useful to realize that you are in a situation that could go badly because it can allow you to react certain ways. But if you ask any uber successful businessman, athlete, entertainer in the world out there, they all practice positive manifestation. They are all telling themselves every day, yo, I'm, this is, this is done in the army and the special forces. When they get into that water with that raft over their heads, they're saying to themselves, I'm the fucking best. I'm tough enough. I'm the best because that, that positive talk to yourself does work. There's no question about that. Does it work all the time to your point?
00:35:37
Speaker 1: Maybe not. But it's definitely more beneficial than a resting.
00:35:41
Speaker 2: Also, 100% thoughts are all that we have. If you wake up, I bet you if a scientist did an experiment with two people who are the same age and they woke up every single day and one said to themselves every single day, I'm old, I'm old. And they said it a hundred times. And then the other one was like, I'm young, I'm young. I guarantee you the one who was saying I was old would live 10 to 20 years less.
00:36:02
Speaker 1: They did a much.
00:36:04
Speaker 5: less version of that experiment with plants and... Oh, playing music and stuff, yeah.
00:36:08
Speaker 1: Playing... Or yelling at a plant. I believe it was playing music.
00:36:11
Speaker 5: And telling a plant to grow. And the plant that was told to grow grew... Yeah.
00:36:16
Speaker 1: Also, here's another thing, bro.
00:36:17
Speaker 3: Like, you said it was your destiny, but maybe your destiny was made for you to lose because you needed... It was the only way to get to Prime or to Mayweather.
00:36:25
Speaker 1: Like, there was... A lot of bigger accomplishments that you nailed afterwards. Well, now it makes sense.
00:36:30
Speaker 5: But it still doesn't change how I feel about manifesting as hard as I did.
00:36:36
Speaker 1: Did you stop doing it? I don't really do it.
00:36:39
Speaker 4: Do you know what his bathroom says now? I went in it yesterday. There used to be huge signs. You will be the greatest entertainer in the world. Now there is a rug in front of his sink that simply says two words.
00:36:50
Speaker 1: Fuck off. That's kind of where I'm at.
00:36:54
Speaker 4: That's how much of a change he's made.
00:36:57
Speaker 3: Do you think that's changed your ability to be happy?
00:37:02
Speaker 1: Not at all. Happiest I've ever been. Achieved more than I ever could have imagined. Yeah, but again, then you're kind of.
00:37:09
Speaker 2: wrong in the sense because like you would your main one was i will become one of the biggest entertainers in the world and that's exactly what you've done.
00:37:16
Speaker 1: So so that one for some reason stuck and came a little more true maybe you believed it deep down he didn't believe but i i.
00:37:25
Speaker 5: Don't even know if i fully believe that though like that's that's a tall order and i'm trying to do school things but i don't care about it as much anymore actually i don't care about it at all i don't care about being the biggest entertainer on the planet Yeah, no shit.
00:37:39
Speaker 1: You already did it. No. Oh, I don't know.
00:37:42
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like when you're chilling in like the top 10, you're kind of like, well, I'm like here. I'm close to the top.
00:37:46
Speaker 1: What's the metric? Who's going to decide? This is pretty chill.
00:37:50
Speaker 2: It is hilarious that we are both from Westlake, Ohio, fucking getting paid tens of millions of dollars to do any of this shit.
00:37:58
Speaker 1: And we have the same goal.
00:38:00
Speaker 2: Him and I are probably going to live on a ranch together with our fucking families.
00:38:04
Speaker 1: Off of all this fucking money.
00:38:06
Speaker 2: None of this, none of this, means anything unless you have your happiness and your family and your health intact so it's like business is cool whatever but we're just playing the fucking game i.
00:38:18
Speaker 4: Am very visual visibly seeing that from both of you guys right now and i do want to i do want to say this it is so so obvious that you guys have turned a corner away from just being driven by any kind of.
00:38:33
Speaker 1: Money or visibility only. I say that to both of you guys.
00:38:37
Speaker 4: I'm seeing more and more you prioritize relationships, real pursuits in life and what you actually desire to get from this life outside of entertainment and money and so on and so forth. And I don't know if that has anything to do with the success of your brand or whatever, but it's palpable and noticeable.
00:38:56
Speaker 1: It comes with maturity.
00:38:57
Speaker 5: It comes with having achieved the goals and having hustled very hard to achieve those goals and feeling a level of accomplishment for me. And I mean, I think you're maturing really rapidly. I don't know if it's like the psychedelics or the like hallucinogenic experiences you've had. But for me, I mean, my priorities very viscerally shifted. And I even like, I look back in our past um, at some of the beefs we've had, because you're right, dude, like family is so important. We were in Saudi Arabia, me, you, mom, dad, and it just felt good to just be all together. And like, I really feel now a really tight kinship with y'all that I, that I had it. And I look back at some of our beefs and just some of the, some of the things I did to, uh, to, uh, that hurt you. And I feel really fucking bad about it, dude. I feel really bad about some of the things I did. And like, I'll, uh, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll apologize to you off camera, but like, damn, man, I, as like, uh, as the older brother, I wish I would have had more wherewithal in how to respectfully and appropriately treat my family when I was younger. and it's it's a shame that it's taken me this long to like come to terms with that sort of in myself um.
00:40:33
Speaker 1: I don't know I don't know I don't know why I'm such like a late bloomer in that regard.
00:40:37
Speaker 2: Yeah no and I I honestly really appreciate that um and I know we've talked about this off camera and and I apologize as well. Like we were just fucking jackasses. And so had our priorities mixed up.
00:40:58
Speaker 1: I just think, I just think I, I just should have like, I'm the older brother, dude. You know what I'm saying?
00:41:06
Speaker 5: I do believe it's much easier for me to hurt you than it is for you to hurt me. And I took advantage of that. That's fucked up.
00:41:13
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:41:14
Speaker 2: No, and I, it definitely really hurt me for sure. For sure, for many years. And it was confusing because I just wanted us to be really, really close. But then I just kept on getting like battered, honestly. And I felt like I was always the one who was like, let's make amends, let's make amends, let's make amends. And it would always kind of get flipped on its head.
00:41:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what my deal was, man.
00:41:39
Speaker 5: I'm going to spend some time in these last part of my 20s.
00:41:44
Speaker 2: It's not your fault, though. You do what was done to you. You were treated like shit growing up.
00:41:52
Speaker 1: You were abused.
00:41:53
Speaker 2: That's a part of our childhood, and there's no running away from that.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: That's the truth.
00:42:00
Speaker 2: And so as humans, we do what was done to us because hurt people hurt people. And so there's this void in you, and you didn't know any.
00:42:10
Speaker 1: Other way, bro. You didn't. You didn't.
00:42:13
Speaker 5: I never felt hurt though. I felt like I was emulating a coldness that the male figure of my life embodies.
00:42:24
Speaker 1: That's being hurt. You don't have to feel hurt to be hurt.
00:42:29
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't even realize why they're drinking or doing drugs or all of these things. There's a void and that void comes from hurt. And so they're just filling it up. Even other people going on dates with people, having sex with people, That is filling a void to make yourself feel better about yourself. And there was this cold lack of emotion growing up. I didn't even know what emotions were. We never had an emotional conversation with either one of our parents.
00:42:57
Speaker 5: We talked about this on the plane ride back about how it affected just when you became the problem child. We were talking about just how much trouble you were really getting into at that age and you sort of just being numb to emotion and following along and wanting to just fit in with your friends who are doing gnarly shit.
00:43:16
Speaker 4: Yup.
00:43:16
Speaker 1: Yup.
00:43:17
Speaker 2: To escape, to escape from, you know, and to, to gain back control in my own life and to like have freedom to just be me instead of living in this sort of tyrannical prison of our dad's house.
00:43:35
Speaker 5: Ironically, you're kind of doing similar practices now in the, opposite end of the scale.
00:43:43
Speaker 1: Correct.
00:43:43
Speaker 5: Like I really admired these disciplines you've put on yourself this year, 2023 that, that are, that are really, really hard and admirable. Yeah.
00:43:51
Speaker 4: Right.
00:43:51
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll let you say them, but right. No, no drinking. Yeah. No, no sex.
00:43:56
Speaker 2: Yep. No drinking, no sex. No watching porn, like to masturbate or anything like that. Daily meditation, like 20 to 45 minutes. tons of books, tons of talks with my life coach slash therapist, Susie, on a daily basis. We talk for probably about an hour every single day, understanding like emotional intelligence, self-love, all of these things that I've to love myself.
00:44:36
Speaker 1: You don't think you do? Really? Yeah.
00:44:41
Speaker 5: What, what, what is it about yourself that you don't love? I, I, I love myself, but it's like, it's a muddy, muddy hole, I guess.
00:44:58
Speaker 2: And so I, I have to, it only shines through sometimes. And I was just taught not to love myself. I was always criticized. I was always, you know, if I didn't get good grades criticized, you're terrible, you're not smart, you're not this. You know, you lose the wrestling tournament. Oh, you got third place? Fucking, you suck. Why didn't you fucking do that? So I had to accomplish things to love myself. And so I've noticed that, I mean, that's probably why I'm like extremely successful in a lot of senses because I've just had to accomplish things for me to feel good about my own self. But now it's like shedding that and realizing that me just being me is more than good enough. And I'm important no matter how much money I have, no matter what I just did.
00:45:47
Speaker 1: And that's why.
00:45:47
Speaker 2: I think this fight was such a gift from the universe, because I think for the first time I'm, I'm really like, damn, I really do love myself. I don't need all of these accolades and accomplishments to feel good. And that's why I'm able to like sit here almost with like a weight lifted off my shoulders over the past couple of days. Um, because so much of my self love was placed in like in accomplishments.
00:46:13
Speaker 1: Um, yeah.
00:46:17
Speaker 4: So there was, so this was almost kind of like a test for you almost to be able to get through a loss that in the past you would have required to go home and actually continue loving yourself and, and think that others around you loved you for that. It was almost a test to be able to walk out of that ring with that, with the loss and, without the victory and go home and still say, yeah, I feel good about myself. I feel good about who I am as a person.
00:46:40
Speaker 1: Yeah. A hundred percent.
00:46:41
Speaker 2: And another thing is that people don't realize is like when you are 16 years old and then in front of like tens of millions of people and you're reading comments on a daily basis that are saying you're this, you're ugly, you're that you're, you suck.
00:46:56
Speaker 1: You're not funny. You're terrible. Go fuck yourself. You should die.
00:47:00
Speaker 2: I wish your parents never had you when you're like consuming that as adolescent, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 years old for six, seven, eight years of your life. You're one of the most, you know, controversial hated people on the internet. You start to read those comments and that blossoms in your head if you let it. And I didn't know who I was. I didn't know how to love myself. I was never taught that. I never practiced that. My parents had such conditional love for me. It was only, you know, if I did something good, I would receive love. which is terrible. And so, yes, a thousand percent. And, um, and so, yeah, you topple that with like millions of comments.
00:47:48
Speaker 1: Read over years and years and years.
00:47:50
Speaker 2: And, um, and then you go to the wrong places to fulfill that void of lack of self-love and that's like alcohol, other people, you know, sex, partying, drugs, accomplishments, money, all of those things that are the heart of Los Angeles. So you're in the city of other people who fucking hate themselves and are trying to become famous to love themselves. And a lot of people, like some of the best people in the world don't love themselves, like the best actors, all these things, and they're doing all of this business stuff and growing their brand and all this stuff to feel validated. That's why girls post half naked online. They want to feel validated. They want the male attention. If a girl truly loves herself, she won't need an Instagram for that. And maybe it's one thing if it's a business, but yeah, I was down that rabbit hole tenfold. And by the way, that only makes it worse. So by trying to fill that void with the shit that's not real, you're actually going backwards and you'll end up in a much worse spot. And yeah, that's where, that's why I ended up and for the past two years, I guess now have been on this journey and have done ayahuasca, toad, mushrooms, daily meditation, breath work, and all of these things to really get back to a place of self-love which is i think the key.
00:49:25
Speaker 5: To life that was beautiful dude all of that you are you are wise beyond your years and even just like.
00:49:34
Speaker 1: Hearing you talk you you evolved so.
00:49:36
Speaker 5: Much and i don't know how or where that came from because like i I am definitely not as emotionally in touch with how I'm feeling or emotionally intelligent. I think, um, as you are, we had this, like, I just kind of feel brain dead to be honest.
00:49:51
Speaker 1: It's, it's, it's a practice, bro.
00:49:54
Speaker 2: Like I've been working now for literally seriously working behind the scenes. And it's not fun, by the way, it's not fun to take a look at all the things that created all of these monsters inside of you and to like uncover them. Um, it's actually quite terrifying and confusing.
00:50:13
Speaker 1: I still haven't done it. I'm 30.
00:50:15
Speaker 4: I got that hood closed, bro. I'm not bragging, but I understand where you're coming from. And I want to say this too. You both have grown tremendously. Tremendously, both of you. I mean, I've had the blessing and pleasure to be around you guys for the past five or six years. And I mean, the growth is tangible, immense, and so palpable to me and everyone. And I know you guys both whether it's boxing or ayahuasca, girlfriends, whatever, like to attribute a lot of your emotional growth and success to the things.
00:50:47
Speaker 1: That you're doing.
00:50:49
Speaker 4: But I also have noticed that it has been something that you guys stopped doing that has also contributed to that growth.
00:50:57
Speaker 1: And that's creating.
00:50:57
Speaker 4: Daily content and being and living in that atmosphere of fucking feedback, that crowdsourced self-esteem that Kanye has talked about, right? Like, Those that, that always on criticism and critique in a world that I live in still to this day, that doesn't really allow you to ever check in on yourself. That doesn't really ever allow you the time to sit with a therapist or with a loved one and say, yo, I don't know why I feel like this.
00:51:24
Speaker 1: Let's work on it.
00:51:25
Speaker 4: Cause you're too busy fulfilling your, your obligation to an audience. And, and so that that's one thing I noticed about both of you guys, when you guys took a moment to step back from that grind, from that always on approach. and focused on boxing and long-term pursuits, it really gave you some room to breathe.
00:51:43
Speaker 1: 100%.
00:51:44
Speaker 2: And that's why I say Hollywood is such a terribly unhealthy place. And there's a reason why damn near every single person that goes there and ends up getting famous and all of these things ends up on almost identically the same path of drugs, alcohol, and all of these dark, dark places. And that's why you hear so many stories about it all the time. Your happiness lies within an audience. Everyone knows it's not good to be codependent. You want to be your own independent, self-loving person. If you're in a codependent relationship where your happiness relies on the other person, that's terrible. It's never going to work out. Well, guess what you're doing when you're becoming famous? You're becoming codependent on millions of people for your happiness. Unless you truly don't give a fuck and can separate yourself from that. It's going to create this terribly fucked up system and feedback loop in your head. That's never going to work in your favor.
00:52:50
Speaker 5: I had a major breakthrough during the time I was shooting originals because it was one of the first times in my life where I felt like I was doing the thing I love creating. But for me, I was finally making content that I wanted to make because it really interested me. Putting down that camera and sort of putting the audience on hold for a second was so liberating. When you're doing stuff consistently for other people for so long, and I say this all the time, but you're just constantly just giving your energy. Like how much do you have for you to even just discover who you are? in a developmental period of your life. And finding myself and truly being able to say that I became a person that I love is the most freeing, relaxing, motivating feeling I've in space that I've ever lived in my whole life. And perhaps that's why I mentioned earlier, I'm the happiest I've ever been. Perhaps that's why I'm achieving these goals that are far beyond what I ever could have imagined. And I'm not even like in my head, I don't know what they look like ahead of time. It's not like I'm shooting for something. I'm just like doing what I love.
00:54:13
Speaker 1: I'm doing what I love.
00:54:13
Speaker 5: And I found this contentness and I'm so fucking blessed and grateful for it. But I think to, to make this a little bit relatable for anyone listening and, um, like the, the takeaway here is I guess just, uh, just be really cognizant of your energy. And it's not good to be selfish, but how much of your life are you living for you? And how much are you giving away? Do you have any left for yourself? I really do believe that's important.
00:54:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the key to life, man. And we're not human doings. We're human beings. So if you could just be and master the art of yourself and being in a room alone and it can make yourself happy.
00:55:06
Speaker 1: Um, that's the most important thing.
00:55:10
Speaker 5: And the fact that you've now found this after so many, so many years, um, is really awesome.
00:55:17
Speaker 2: And I'm proud of you for that, honestly, because it's not easy, man. It's, it's, it's not easy at all.
00:55:24
Speaker 1: No. Yeah.
00:55:24
Speaker 3: No.
00:55:25
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I've all, I've all, well, Mike, something you haven't done enough is fucking lost, bro. Recently.
00:55:32
Speaker 5: You lost a lot in that tough decade of your life, you know. But I definitely think getting hit in the fucking face and failing and losing on like, you know, whether it's a small scale or big scale can help.
00:55:46
Speaker 1: You evolve in a way that you could never imagine.
00:55:47
Speaker 4: If you don't, I could sit here forever and just do what I'm doing. But if you never take chances to evolve, you can't. Like I found a comfort zone and I hate.
00:55:58
Speaker 5: I mean you could see it bro I love what I do and I love the content but it's just I wanna we have.
00:56:06
Speaker 4: A couple more topics covered today before we dive into it because that's a long this was wonderful but I gotta bring.
00:56:14
Speaker 1: Us back to the internet because there's a few more.
00:56:16
Speaker 2: Topics that we gotta cover today okay I say we sit here for five hours and fucking.
00:56:21
Speaker 1: Do a super episode did you guys want to come to the dinner by the way yeah can you guys too Logan's relationship with Dana White and UFC.
00:56:33
Speaker 4: Is not the only contentious relationship that he has in his life that's related to you. You walked out of that ring after a tough loss, and within seconds, there was a viral video from a man named KSI just digging in, digging fucking in. I can quote him. Uh, he was smoking on that Jake Paul pack. And I want to ask you, uh, you know, was there anything that happened there that you didn't expect? Uh, and I also want to then get your reaction and what that was like for you in a moment where you knew your brother was going through it to see a, you know, your, your business partner, your friend, your, you know, your, um, co-creator, um, you know, taking advantage in that moment.
00:57:26
Speaker 1: I just want to get some feedback from both of you guys. Jake first. I didn't, I don't know. I didn't see the videos.
00:57:33
Speaker 2: Um, again, talk is cheap because with all that talk of whatever he said, he's still afraid to sign the contract.
00:57:42
Speaker 4: So you're saying the fight, the reason the fight's not happening right now is just 100% KSI.
00:57:46
Speaker 5: Yeah.
00:57:50
Speaker 1: So he could, I mean, he could talk all that shit, but like, let's, let's go in the ring. 100%.
00:57:53
Speaker 5: Like, talk that shit let's sell some fucking pay-per-views brother so.
00:58:01
Speaker 4: It's just the balls in his court would you consider a ksi fight prior to a a tommy fury.
00:58:06
Speaker 2: Rematch no no and like and ksi has never fought anyone good so it's like all all that talk is is from i'm totally laughing.
00:58:16
Speaker 1: Because he's laughing why why Because he fought you. Oh, oh. Oh, no. Oh, no.
00:58:19
Speaker 4: Oh, fuck.
00:58:19
Speaker 1: That really hurts. That really hurts, Jake. I'm sorry. I tried my best to not. I turned out of frame. You could have done the same, George. I don't know why. Jake said that. I was like, yeah. He's like, yeah, he's right. He's absolutely right. Wait, but I am right because even when you fought him, you weren't good. You're great. You're good now. Undeveloped. And this is the thing.
00:58:52
Speaker 2: When I make my pound for pound list, they're like, why does Jake put Logan above KSI? KSI beat him. If you guys fought now, you would win. You're a different fighter than back then.
00:59:03
Speaker 1: So it's like.
00:59:06
Speaker 1: Let me say something.
00:59:09
Speaker 5: Hmm so I obviously like want to try to stay neutral here but and JJ's done a phenomenal job at winning everything he does.
00:59:38
Speaker 1: Maybe Jake could just give the feedback for it.
00:59:41
Speaker 5: No, he's done a great job at winning everything he does. It's because of his confidence in himself.
00:59:47
Speaker 1: For sure.
00:59:53
Speaker 5: And JJ clowning on Jake in that moment is inevitable.
00:59:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's warranted. Obviously, he's going to fucking do that.
01:00:01
Speaker 4: No, 100%.
01:00:01
Speaker 1: He has to do that. Yeah, I would do the same if he lost, no doubt. He has to do it. It's just, uh, like you said, bro, it's the fucking, it's the game.
01:00:12
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:00:12
Speaker 1: It's the game. It's what you do. And then if you lose, you deal with it then.
01:00:16
Speaker 5: Uh, and, and, and he, JJ, fortunately for him has not gotten humbled yet.
01:00:22
Speaker 1: And maybe, maybe he won't, maybe he will. That's up to the gods to decide. Um, that, that's what I mean though, is, is all things considered.
01:00:32
Speaker 2: Like I talk a lot of shit, dah, dah, dah, but I, Back to back to back.
01:00:37
Speaker 1: Schedule these fights. And go in the ring. And do them. Whoever it is. Anywhere. Anytime. Anyplace. I've backed that up. And proven it. And shown it. And so. He's hot on Twitter. You know he's got the Twitter fingers. But. When it comes to actually fighting me. You have been. Gone. Absent. Haven't actually showed up. Haven't actually signed the contract. So. Talk is cheap.
01:01:03
Speaker 5: And.
01:01:04
Speaker 2: Let's just hope he gets into the ring and we can settle all the shit talk there after I go back and avenge this loss with Tommy Fury.
01:01:12
Speaker 4: So it's Tommy Fury and then this gets back on the schedule.
01:01:16
Speaker 1: So like... I like that fight.
01:01:21
Speaker 4: And not saying that you shouldn't fight Tommy again because I like the idea of unfinished business and leave no doubt.
01:01:27
Speaker 1: But I love that KSI fight because....
01:01:31
Speaker 4: Of what I said earlier, which is I believe you guys are both scrappers. And honestly, I like it, but I don't like it for the same reason your brother. I love you, bro.
01:01:41
Speaker 1: I love you. And watching your growth is fucking inspirational.
01:01:44
Speaker 4: But I have also come to and always have very much respect to JJ and do like JJ very much as well. So the idea of it, I probably sit somewhere around the same place as him on it. But that is a fuck. That's the super fight. That's the fight, dude.
01:01:59
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
01:01:59
Speaker 2: Like there is not as big of a fight as you think.
01:02:03
Speaker 1: I disagree. For what reason? Do you think it loses? We both. Yeah, we both.
01:02:08
Speaker 2: I mean, I have a mainstream audience. So does the Fury name. So that's why superstars were there. Ronaldo, all this shit.
01:02:15
Speaker 1: No one really knows.
01:02:15
Speaker 2: Like celebrities don't care about KSI. He has like all the little like Internet kids wrapped around his finger. But that's also all the kids who still watch me fight because they hate me. So it's like we have a lot of the same crossover audience, and it doesn't engage the professional boxing combat sports world nearly as much as me versus Tommy.
01:02:38
Speaker 1: I would love to see the revenge of the Pauls and have Tommy. Sorry, sorry.
01:02:43
Speaker 2: And this is why I've said I'm KSI's end goal, right? But for me, there's bigger fights out there.
01:02:49
Speaker 1: So that's a pit stop. Yeah, it's a pit stop. It's a million plus buy event. It is. It's a million and a half plus buy.
01:02:59
Speaker 2: KSI has only sold.
01:03:01
Speaker 1: 200,000 pay-per-views max. Here's what I think. And that was against him.
01:03:05
Speaker 4: What?
01:03:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys sold 240,000. No, we did 1.1. That's a lie.
01:03:07
Speaker 2: At $ 10.
01:03:12
Speaker 1: Oh, the first fight with me and Deji and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, which is $ 10 million. The second one was between... On DAZN, yeah. I don't think it was two. I thought it was more like 300, 400,000.
01:03:23
Speaker 2: There was 200,000 subscribers who had already paid for DAZN that watched it, or 400,000 that watched it, but they already had paid for DAZN, and then you added 220,000 new subscribers at $ 20, which is only, you know, I see.
01:03:37
Speaker 1: However many millions of dollars. Okay. KSI has never sold a proper pay-per-view at $ 50, $ 60. But also at the time, you and you.
01:03:48
Speaker 4: Didn't have any mainstream boxing credibility which you have a shit ton of now you have a metric shit ton of fucking credibility and in the mainstream space as far as espn is concerned who by the way did you very dirty on snapchat we could talk about that in a second i showed him i can't horrifying what a picture oh my just the picture in the title was mind-blowing and your.
01:04:10
Speaker 1: Face kind of like orients itself in a way he knows what picture you're talking about for sure Yeah, yeah. But the title was... It was like, who cares? It's just Snapchat. Snapchat is brutal. Forget that for a second. Let him get the clicks, bro. He brings it up and he goes, forget that for a second. Because it was just a pit stop. They think you're a fucking... A fucking what? A fucking what? What do you mean? I don't know. You just said... Jake is a hobo. What were you going to say? I'm just curious. I have no idea what you're talking about. Interesting. Well, thanks for joining us, guys. I forgot what I was going to say. Actually, you've... Something about.
01:04:52
Speaker 4: Something about the mainstream boxing.
01:04:55
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
01:04:56
Speaker 1: So now that you have boxing... I didn't say anything. I'm watching you today. I'm fucking onto you. I didn't say anything. I'm this close to having you expose yourself.
01:05:06
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything.
01:05:07
Speaker 1: You didn't, but you almost did. And I saw it. We all saw it. No, I didn't. We saw it. It will be replayed No. I guarantee people are going to be frothing at that moment. No, I don't think. You were assuming. And you know what happens when you assume. You make an ass out of you and me. Don't do this to you. What were you going to say? Me? I was like, Jake's in a rut. See, you judged. You need to stop judging people.
01:05:34
Speaker 5: Before you use that word in that context, I'm pretty sure you had no idea what that word was.
01:05:41
Speaker 4: Rut.
01:05:42
Speaker 1: No, I've been in a rut for a very long time now. I've been swimming in it.
01:05:45
Speaker 4: Disagree.
01:05:46
Speaker 1: I think you've been doing great. Thank you. I appreciate it. What did you think the word was going to have to do with? Like, transgenders or something? What did you think? I don't know.
01:05:52
Speaker 4: Like, where were you going with this? I don't fucking know. Logan, what did you think? The first thing that popped in your head, what did you think it was?
01:06:02
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. It could have been Jake's a rotten kid. It could have been Jake is a, you know? Oh, is there something on this bone you're chewing? Oh, there's something. Oh, really?
01:06:13
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
01:06:14
Speaker 1: Whoa!
01:06:19
Speaker 4: Whoa!
01:06:19
Speaker 1: What the fuck is wrong with you? You're wild. You're wild, dude. I can't believe you said that.
01:06:26
Speaker 4: How did I not notice that's where you're going?
01:06:29
Speaker 1: First of all, shame on all of you guys. I didn't even.
01:06:33
Speaker 3: The fact that you guys think I would say that is kind of ridiculous. Do you even know who I am? And by the way, I was in special ed class growing up. So I kind of could get away with saying that because everybody called me.
01:06:44
Speaker 1: It growing up. Then say it. Crazy right now. Then say it now. I don't feel comfortable saying it now. I feel like I'm being pressured into saying it. Put it on the spot. I don't want to. Mr. Kind of get away with it. Get away with it. I'm okay. I'm going to pass on this one.
01:06:57
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:06:58
Speaker 1: I'm going to get your ass. Yo, what's going on?
01:07:01
Speaker 2: Do you dress yourself when you wake up?
01:07:04
Speaker 1: Do I dress myself? No, God does. Look at his shirt. What's going on right now? I don't like what's going on. Made in heaven. Made in heaven. No, not with you. Why is everyone looking at George and talking about him? I mean, this is not a new thing, bro. I think it is your time, though. To leave? No.
01:07:21
Speaker 5: No.
01:07:22
Speaker 1: I was like, oh. To die? What are you saying? No, I want you. George, it's your time. I think it's your time. Is it? Oh, thank God. I think it's your time. Get it. Okay.
01:07:32
Speaker 3: So, Jake, I'm very excited that you're here right now because this is obviously about me. You guys remember how you guys told me to quit music?
01:07:41
Speaker 1: It was a suggestion.
01:07:42
Speaker 3: And by the way, great suggestion. Great suggestion. And by the way, not one that all of my friends in Arizona have suggested before.
01:07:49
Speaker 1: All of them.
01:07:50
Speaker 3: And it's true, I was terrible at music. But I want to show you a song.
01:07:54
Speaker 1: You weren't terrible. I wasn't terrible? No, you just weren't.
01:07:57
Speaker 3: Dude, you keep giving me these compliments that you get.
01:07:59
Speaker 1: You were never terrible. You were just good.
01:08:02
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:08:02
Speaker 1: And we live in Hollywood. We gotta be a fucking superstar. Okay. So just a little quick....
01:08:09
Speaker 3: Explanation on why I'm showing this to my friends. I'm not doing anything for this song, but I'm very excited.
01:08:16
Speaker 1: You know who Rami is? You did some music with him as a producer. Yes, yeah, of course.
01:08:19
Speaker 3: So he does a lot of people's music, and Tanner Fox is at my house, and he said, dude, I can't believe you know that producer.
01:08:26
Speaker 1: I would love to meet him. So I call him up, and you know, have you ever had a dream? I don't mean.
01:08:30
Speaker 3: You've had a dream. You know how you have a dream and you forget about it? And then you remember when you see somebody or do something? I saw him and I go, whoa, bro, I had a dream about you last night that you produced me a hit song, like something that people actually like.
01:08:43
Speaker 1: And he starts laughing and he goes, bro, you're fucking me. And I go, no, why? He goes, I had that dream last night. And I was like, there's no way. So my girlfriend and Tanner were like, well, you have to go to the studio. What the fuck are you saying? Four people witnessed this.
01:08:55
Speaker 4: You both randomly had a dream about each other. Two men randomly had a fucking person. dream about each other. Do you want me to call him? No, I don't care, but I'm just saying you might have said it and he might have said it, but the fact of it actually happening, I'm sorry it didn't happen. You did not have a dream about Rami the producer. Rami the producer randomly was like, George Janko's going to produce a hit song with me. How the fuck would that happen? In what fucking universe did that happen?
01:09:18
Speaker 1: Y'all just had random dreams about each other. I swear on your new hairline. Oh, shit. We know that's not rock solid. I'm sorry. It looks good. Did I take it too far? No, that's one place. You could have said a lot of things. Really?
01:09:32
Speaker 4: Yeah.
01:09:35
Speaker 1: You could have said my stomach. You guys do the push and pull with me so much. It makes me nauseous, bro. If I was on a first date with you guys, I'd be so fucking insecure.
01:09:42
Speaker 4: I would have gone on my flat feet, my fat stomach, drug addiction. The hairline rocks off.
01:09:47
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Smile, hair clean. Anyways, fuck me, bro. Welcome to the emotional rub and tug, brother.
01:09:52
Speaker 3: I just wanted to show you guys because I'm not going into the song.
01:09:59
Speaker 1: I have a freestyle. I came on the song.
01:10:02
Speaker 3: Sorry i'm just throwing a lot of things i might spark some shit on you uh god i'm so nervous now bro but this is what happened he came i came into the studio and he said hey i was working on this song to uh to give it to kanye west's team and uh he goes kanye said he likes hitler no i can't it was about it was about jesus getting nailed to the cross and i freestyled on it i was gonna delete it but then my girlfriend and tanner said it should be out there.
01:10:26
Speaker 1: I would love to show you guys the heart of David Freestyle. You got balls, kid. I'm not a musician. I don't give a fuck.
01:10:31
Speaker 2: George has been preparing us about this song for last night.
01:10:34
Speaker 1: Hey, Kevin. Drop that. Please say drop that. Oh, he's playing it in here? Could you put it up a little bit more? Oh, my God. Is it loud for you.
01:10:43
Speaker 2: Guys?
01:10:44
Speaker 1: Could you put it up more, Kev? How do you guys hear it? It's good, yeah. Oh, how you bled. It must have been a lonely. Oh, way to go.
01:11:00
Speaker 6: I ask God, give me the heart of David. Honestly, I'm not patient. The devil getting frustrated. The weed is making me lazy. A generation full of babies. Honestly, I can't take it. United States, but honestly, I don't think it's united at all. I'm over here looking like I'm about to go fall. My mental illness is taking the toll of it all. Oh, Jesus over here like your homie give it all.
01:11:27
Speaker 1: To me, a prodigy, I ought to be. In epiphany, they be coming at me at night.
01:11:33
Speaker 6: My tongue's sharper than any one of your knives. The demons sweating to see me, they grip on tight. I see your demons, I'm telling them.
01:11:40
Speaker 1: It's on sight.
01:11:41
Speaker 6: I'm just playing, I don't fight, I do pray. I only go the way of Mr.
01:11:46
Speaker 1: Yahweh.
01:11:46
Speaker 6: Try to correct me, but I'm stuck in my old ways. And that way, he don't play like no way. So I gotta get out of my own damn way.
01:11:57
Speaker 5: Soldiers walked around the three signs of peace.
01:12:03
Speaker 4: I mean the cross.
01:12:04
Speaker 1: I mean the crosses. And one of them stuck his sword in the side of the prophet.
01:12:16
Speaker 4: Then the blood came streaming down from his.
01:12:20
Speaker 1: Head and his side. Watch me now. Watch me now.
01:12:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
01:12:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Watch me now, watch me now. Watch me now, watch me now. Yeah. Watch me now. Watch me now. The cross came in and washed me down. I'm a go ahead. Put me on a crown. I'm the son of the Mr.
01:12:47
Speaker 3: Ruler.
01:12:47
Speaker 6: Now the devil's screaming really out loud. He not proud. I got the chains on him now.
01:12:53
Speaker 1: Jesus. Walk shot down.
01:12:56
Speaker 5: Ooh, shot down.
01:12:57
Speaker 1: Mr. AZ hot. Now I bow down to no one unless it's a holy one.
01:13:02
Speaker 6: I'm the only.
01:13:03
Speaker 1: One who's speaking the truth. Are you too? Tell me what you do. Tell me what you choose. Are you having the hell proof? Damn. Damn. That was, that's kind of flame, bro. I'm about to convert. A hundred percent.
01:13:30
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
01:13:31
Speaker 1: Okay, okay. Who's first? I can hear Kanye on that. It sounds like Kanye. Yeah, that beat is, dude.
01:13:40
Speaker 3: Somebody came up to me, and Milt said this as well. He goes, bro, you sound black. And I go, thank you.
01:13:46
Speaker 1: I was thrown back by.
01:13:48
Speaker 3: How many people that always wanted me to quit listen to that song, and they're like, what the fuck?
01:13:52
Speaker 1: This doesn't sound like you.
01:13:53
Speaker 4: The beat is crazy. And by the way, that's better coming from you than anything else I've heard. Is that an accurate statement?
01:14:02
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like some of your other songs better, I think.
01:14:05
Speaker 2: I like your tone on that way better. I think the second verse was better for sure.
01:14:11
Speaker 5: And also, it's not like my type of music where it's like preaching.
01:14:15
Speaker 1: That was going to be my question.
01:14:17
Speaker 2: Like when I listen to music, I want to listen to music.
01:14:20
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to church. Fair enough.
01:14:23
Speaker 3: But Kanye had success with, with his, but he's Kanye. I went, I went the first time I rapped on it. I was like, yeah, these months. And the guy stopped and he goes, stop. He goes, just talk about like what you're actually dealing with.
01:14:33
Speaker 1: And I've been praying to have the heart of David. So like, I just went into it. That was cool, bro. That was cool, bro.
01:14:38
Speaker 4: I think like as, as like a passion thing for like, to just do because you want to hop on and spit about something you're passionate about.
01:14:44
Speaker 1: That's fucking fire, bro.
01:14:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to be a musician, but I feel like once in a while when I'm having a lot of things on my chest, I would go into the studio and see if it forms into something that is nice.
01:14:55
Speaker 1: Go for it, bro. I think whatever artistic release. I think it's good. Yeah, it's good.
01:15:02
Speaker 2: And it's good to get those thoughts out.
01:15:05
Speaker 1: No, it was. It felt really, really good. It's like a hip-hop journal. You know what I'm saying? It's therapy. You just journaled hip-hopically. If you would have heard that, would you have thought it was me? I mean, I could tell your voice. I know you so well. Yeah, yeah, probably. Fair enough. Well, thank you guys for letting me play here. Yeah, of course. Of course. We'll probably cut all of it, but it's fine. Come on. Yo, this is crazy right now, bro. What are we even talking about now?
01:15:35
Speaker 2: I think we should do an episode where we talk about, like, Space and time Oh We could snap.
01:15:43
Speaker 1: On a Different dimension Aliens and stars.
01:15:48
Speaker 5: UFOs I'm trying to think if there's anything we talked about on the plane That That was.
01:15:54
Speaker 4: I never got to say anything about Australia ever I love that country dude I just want to give one last shout out to Australia dude That was a There's so much to unpack.
01:16:05
Speaker 1: Your shoes yo Tommy Fury got them shoes Those are cool shoes, bro. Thank you, man.
01:16:11
Speaker 2: I don't think he probably doesn't have these.
01:16:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what's so funny about your shoes? When your feet get hot, you see it get moist in there?
01:16:18
Speaker 4: Oh, does it fog up like a window?
01:16:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need some moist feet, my guy. They need some window. Oh, I got one. I got one. I got something. Yeah, me versus Seth Rollins at WrestleMania. It's going down. Hell yeah. It's official. Oh, actually? Oh, shit. It's going down. It got confirmation. Me versus Seth Rollins. Well, y'all been beefing, bro. You fucking curb stomped him, dude. That's not true. He's been beefing with me. Bro, you put a foot into his dome piece, bro. Yeah, WrestleMania, April 1st in Los Angeles.
01:16:54
Speaker 4: Wow.
01:16:55
Speaker 1: On my birthday. Wow. Crazy, right?
01:16:59
Speaker 4: Your birthday's historically not been the greatest day for you. Not to put any bad vibes.
01:17:05
Speaker 1: Into the sky. I've been thinking about that.
01:17:07
Speaker 4: You got shitty Lambo, shitty shrimp. You had breakups with your brother, breakups with your best friend.
01:17:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. You've had all kinds of shits. April Fool's Day. Shitty day to be born, to be honest. Got hacked on my birthday once. That was terrible. Oh, nightmare. Yeah, you have a terrible... You know why? Because God's like, ha-ha. Fool's... Idiot. I'm a cosmic joke. Yeah. I'm glad everyone else is having fun with it. Who is Seth Rollins? So that's the question that I was asking. Because he sounds like a fucking bitch.
01:17:38
Speaker 4: He goes right into it.
01:17:41
Speaker 1: Damn.
01:17:41
Speaker 5: He actually said some not-so-nice things about your loss.
01:17:45
Speaker 1: Wow, that's crazy. That's crazy. So I didn't know who he was either until I got into wrestling. Apparently, he's pretty big in the wrestling world. I will say. Not that big. Are you fighting Seth Rollins? I'll beat the fuck out of him. I know who he is now. I will say this. He's very good at what he does. He's very good at what he does.
01:18:07
Speaker 5: He's probably top three in the business right now.
01:18:10
Speaker 1: Really?
01:18:11
Speaker 5: And for that reason, it'd be an honor to take him on to WrestleMania.
01:18:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really happy with this matchup. Is he liked? Like, is he a... I don't know.
01:18:19
Speaker 5: I think he's liked because of how good he is at being, like, the villain, kind of conniving, funky energy.
01:18:27
Speaker 1: He has, like, Joker energy a little bit. He was at Royal, wasn't he? Yeah, he was the one I eliminated. That's how this started. That's how this started. Correct, correct. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry.
01:18:39
Speaker 2: Just hard to be afraid of a guy named Seth.
01:18:41
Speaker 1: That is true.
01:18:42
Speaker 3: I think every Seth is like, you smile at a Seth, right?
01:18:46
Speaker 2: Yeah it's like it's like oh like here's like something i feel bad because you're just nothing let me take this even further something let me take this even further you know how like like you're like do you need like water like what's going on seth like you.
01:18:59
Speaker 1: Guys have clearly never run into seth rogan seth seth rogan he's actually exactly who i'm thinking of who's Seth Rogen's not nice? Jake, his nickname? He's so nice. He's the nicest person. I literally said they're all nice. Yeah, because his name's Seth. Seth Rogen. It's like a... Yeah, it's like.
01:19:16
Speaker 4: He's going to come on the show at some point. He's got a company called Houseplant.
01:19:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Bro, he's the nicest person. He's a houseplant. He does Alzheimer's funding, fundraisers. That's... No, that's great. HFC. That's great. Hey, I do have one quick one because you two boys are... Is it okay?
01:19:34
Speaker 4: Because you guys are from Ohio, I just want to say this really quick. I spent a little bit of time with another Ohioan recently in the Gold Coast.
01:19:47
Speaker 1: You also could say Ohioan. Ohioan.
01:19:51
Speaker 4: I was getting on the elevator at the Langham Hotel in the Gold Coast, and a man got off the elevator as I was getting on, and I turned, and I said, that's Dave Chappelle. It was fucking Dave Chappelle randomly on a Tuesday getting off the elevator. And I said, Dave, what are you doing in Australia? And Dave was like, who are you? He goes, Mike, I got it. He goes, Mike, I got a show in Brisbane tonight. Why don't you come?
01:20:19
Speaker 1: So we go to a show.
01:20:21
Speaker 4: And after the show went into his red room because his room is completely red after shows and before shows because it keeps him in like the right mind space or whatever. And I wanted to tell you guys this because I went in there and this man is so, and you know, this obviously is.
01:20:35
Speaker 1: So impressed by what you guys are doing.
01:20:38
Speaker 4: I mean, for, for, you know, 40, pretty much the whole night after that, I got the, you know, opportunity blessing to spend six uninterrupted hours with Chappelle in Brisbane and.
01:20:50
Speaker 1: And go to dinner and go out. I'm so jealous of that. It was incredible.
01:20:54
Speaker 3: Out of all of the trips or Insta stories or anything you've ever done, Mikey, that one, I got so jealous, bro. Like, you got to actually spend time with him.
01:21:05
Speaker 1: So Elp quick. So Elp he has in the past as well, and that's how I met him originally. But not like that. No, bro, the entire night. It was just them. Also, he also had dinner with Arnold. So that's... That was awesome. That's crazy, bro. That was fucking cool. Me, two girls that were with me, and David, the German, and Dave Chappelle. It was just them. For six hours. That's insane.
01:21:25
Speaker 4: We ate steaks together. We went to the club together. We spent an entire night in Brisbane. It was fucking insane.
01:21:30
Speaker 1: You got an unfiltered comedy show. Oh, and he is who he is. You know this. He just is who he is on stage. He is fucking hilarious. That has to be your highlight night.
01:21:41
Speaker 4: It surely is, but one thing I've learned from it is like, I'm telling the story only this part of it, but like, it's something you've always told me is like, you kind of have to protect stories that you tell.
01:21:52
Speaker 5: Yeah.
01:21:52
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:21:52
Speaker 4: But I'm the only reason I'm telling you and, and beyond just it being a cool story is because he had so much positive shit to say about you guys, man. And, and I want to, and I want to give you really give you guys flowers from a, from the, from a go of, of industry. I mean, he, he just couldn't stop talking about what you guys have, have done to reinvigorate.
01:22:12
Speaker 1: The sport of boxing.
01:22:13
Speaker 4: And, a sport which has been extremely impactful and important to black culture, which Dave is obviously a fucking leader in and one of the goats of, and just could not stop talking about what you guys have done for the sport. And I just wanted to give you guys that message, and I think you'll probably continue seeing him at your fights.
01:22:36
Speaker 1: You've gotten a chance to both meet him. He's fucking incredible. Legend, bro. Do you see anything about me?
01:22:43
Speaker 4: He's surely seen the show many times. He wants us to go to Yellow Springs.
01:22:48
Speaker 1: But did he say anything? Not specifically, but I think in sentiment, yes. In sentiment.
01:22:53
Speaker 4: But he wants us to go to Yellow Springs and spend some time there, which I think would be fucking awesome.
01:22:59
Speaker 1: Dave is unbelievable.
01:23:01
Speaker 5: That's a one of one right there.
01:23:04
Speaker 1: Dude, this dog has a big head like you, bro.
01:23:06
Speaker 3: Look at this.
01:23:08
Speaker 1: You guys have big heads.
01:23:09
Speaker 5: The first thing he said when he saw how big his head was this time around, he said, dude, that dog has a Jake Paul head.
01:23:15
Speaker 1: That's crazy. No, there's no way you took that offensively. Wait, from you? Yeah. Oh. No, no, no. Bro, your head is larger than the other two. No, I know, I know. No, no, no. That's why girls love it. But did you... I thought you said it... Because it stimulates their vagina better. Nice. Oh, you're talking about... Is that true? Is that true? Yeah. What were you talking about? Your dick. Yeah. Yeah.
01:23:37
Speaker 5: That's what you were talking about.
01:23:39
Speaker 3: When I saw the dog's head, I was like, I've seen this before.
01:23:44
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:23:44
Speaker 1: You are well endowed. I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you. Thanks, man. You guys want to start this podcast over? I honestly would be down. I'm not even kidding.
01:23:55
Speaker 3: I'm so excited to show you guys this song. I'm going to tell you something.
01:24:00
Speaker 4: Anytime we've ever walked off this show, except for the 300th episode, where we were like, that was not our best episode.
01:24:05
Speaker 1: People were like, that was incredible.
01:24:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I just like fucked that whole episode up.
01:24:10
Speaker 4: When?
01:24:10
Speaker 1: Just right now. Like today. Like the episode we just did. By the penis comet? No, he means just in general.
01:24:18
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:24:19
Speaker 1: No, I was not. No, no, no. Yeah, you had some real good moments. Hi, queen. Is there anything you'd want to add before we? I don't know. We're done. We're done. I don't even know. I don't even want to play. We're not. We're not done. It's fine. Oh, we're not done. OK, we all just sing it out loud. All right. Jake is a hobo. Why you ask me? I got no clue. I'll play the bridge as we go out. All right. Thank you guys for listening to this episode. Yeah, we should do a freestyle to end. No, Logan, Logan. It's tradition. It's tradition. Every time I'm on the episode, we have to freestyle. But we need a beat.
01:25:03
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:25:04
Speaker 1: How are we going to do it?
01:25:07
Speaker 2: Yeah.
01:25:07
Speaker 1: Okay. Sports beddings. Get your cheddar. Yeah. Who's better? Most competitors. Celsius versus Prime.
01:25:14
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Drink slime. I got a pump. I use it to fill my bike tires.
01:25:19
Speaker 3: I'm tired.
01:25:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. I don't make content. My sentiment is feeling kind of corny. But I'm horny because I ain't been fucking. So I'm trucking. Get that dick sucking. Big luck. Big daddy fucks. Eat your cake. Pass it to Jake. Pass it to me.
01:25:41
Speaker 2: I got the rock now. I'm feeling hot now. It's my shot now.
01:25:45
Speaker 1: I took a loss now.
01:25:47
Speaker 2: I'm finna make it back. I'm finna smoke some crack. I'm finna smoke some crack. I'm finna put some crack in the mucking back. It's like a Big Mac. Do it black in the Cadillac. Going hella fast.
01:25:59
Speaker 1: Oh!
01:26:00
Speaker 2: Oh!
01:26:19
Speaker 5: Pass it to the bro. I ain't gonna fuck Jake's hoes. I'm gonna attack this beat and Jake does crack.
01:26:24
Speaker 1: That's heat. Yeah. Miami. We're going down this weekend to Lele Pons wedding. Wedding. Wedder. Cheddar. Get some bread. I make some bread. I... Whoa. I'm about to hurl if you talk about....
01:26:42
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, we can't do these freestyles. We can't because I just say fucked up shit. Well, his brain wasn't in the right place.
01:26:49
Speaker 1: We should start over. The whole episode. Yeah. Yes. And the freestyles too. Can't talk about....
01:26:57
Speaker 4: Better off dead, leaving the couch sticking in her mouth.
01:27:01
Speaker 1: Logan. We're done.
01:27:03
Speaker 5: Gables.
01:27:04
Speaker 1: Gables. We're going to Miami. Lely Pond's wedding. Lely.
01:27:08
Speaker 6: Lely.
01:27:08
Speaker 1: Lely Pond's wedding. Lely. Lely. Lely Pond's wedding.
01:27:10
Speaker 3: Lely.
01:27:10
Speaker 2: Lely.
01:27:11
Speaker 1: Lely Pond's wedding. Lely. Tropical puns.
01:27:28
Speaker 4: And second of all, as the highest and most biggest promoter of prime in the history.
01:27:32
Speaker 1: Don't give me any fucking shit. UFC, Dana White, Dana White, Dana White. Adesanya, Adesanya, Adesanya. Masvidal, Masvidal, Masvidal. Fighter Pay, Fighter Pay. UFC, UFC, prime, prime, prime, prime, prime, prime. KSI, KSI, Simon, bang, bang. What do you fucking want from me? What do you fucking want from me? What do you fucking want from me, dude? I'm good now. I'm good. I was just wondering. Damn this shit. Fucking dude. I'm fired up! Prime! Drink Prime!
01:27:58
Speaker 4: What do you fucking want from me?
01:28:07
Speaker 1: What do you fucking want from me? That's all I wanted. I have no equity!
