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So how can I get you on that first screen with
the search results to have 5 to 7 people that
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can truly, truly help you?
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Right?
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Because right now, I I wrote a list.
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I think I tried over 30 different types of
things to heal my ankles because it wasn't
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working.
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Hello, and welcome back to the Ignition Path
podcast.
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My fellow igniters, welcome in.
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I appreciate you joining us.
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Don't forget to like, share, subscribe, and,
tell your friends.
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If you hear something during this podcast that
resonates with you, share this this episode
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with people.
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Right now, we've got a guest coming in, Elenka.
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How do you say your last name, Elenka?
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Kis Yeah.
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Kislick.
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Oh, okay.
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I got it right.
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So this is Elenka Kislik, and she's gonna tell
you all about her business and her
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entrepreneurial path because that's what we're
about here on the Ignition Path podcast.
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So go ahead, Elenka, and and tell us exactly,
you know, the the proper way maybe to say your
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name.
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I always butcher that stuff.
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And then who you are, what you do, and and
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So, hi.
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My name is Alenka Kislick.
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The first name is phonetic.
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It's easy enough.
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The spelling is what trips people up, usually.
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And I have, recently decided to launch a
business.
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I've been in, software creation product
management for almost 15 years of my career,
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and through a series of health issues, which
I'm sure we'll get into.
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I realized that I wasn't finding the answers in
conventional medicine and I found them in other
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ways.
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And so I decided to create something that could
also help other people.
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And so the business is called Zaha, and the
concept is that we match people based on shared
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values.
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So we match providers and clients based on
shared values to help them find someone that
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can help them where they're at today.
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And this is much like any sort of, matchmaking
system.
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Right?
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If you think about booking, vacation rentals
or, other types of things that where it's like,
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hey.
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I have a series of filters, and then there's a
series of, you know, places I can be connected
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with.
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We're doing that, but we're doing it with,
different types of providers, health care
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providers, and this health care and modalities.
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Right?
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So we're talking a range of, things from, like,
acupuncture, chiropractic, functional medicine
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to, things like physical therapy, pelvic floor
therapists, breathwork practitioners, coaches,
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etcetera.
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Just depend nutritionists, dietitians, depends
on what you need.
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That's that's fantastic.
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Sorry.
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My my my recording software just pushed
something up on my page, and I've never seen it
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before.
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But so I had to, like, read.
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Like, what
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is it telling me?
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I'm like, what is it telling me?
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So, hopefully, this is, going good.
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But but, yeah, that's great.
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So what is your what is the background that you
have that even brought I mean, you said
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software, but do you have any health care
background as well or just just through the
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process of your your health journey, the this
came about?
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So background and software, but any anything in
health other than your own issues?
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My own issues, don't we all?
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Is that your own your own, for lack of better
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I I often don't say the right words every time.
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I'm good with issues.
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We all have I got issues too.
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We all got issues.
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Now I'm gonna have that sound stuck in my head.
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So, I don't have Yeah.
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I don't have a background in medicine.
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I am a super curious person, and I research a
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Grant, that being said, I am building a medical
and modality advisory board so that all of
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everything gets vetted through them.
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I am the person building the system.
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Someone else is vetting the the bad aspect of
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expert in something I'm not.
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Gotcha.
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Gotcha.
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You're the expert in the software and building
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up and and making sure they have an answer.
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That's a it's a great service.
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I mean, who knew that that that's what we need
in this world, but it definitely sounds
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important to make sure that this is something
that that people can find and people can use.
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Is it live and running now?
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Like, can we post it in the description below,
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We're gonna be running focus groups soon, and
the wait list is live.
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So for people who are interested, they can sign
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But, no, we're we're in the beginning stages of
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Everything takes longer than you think it is.
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We were talking about renovations before we
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Software is very similar to renovations.
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longer than we do.
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100%.
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And, you know, this is great because that it
automatically leads us to another podcast later
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on once you're once everything's up and
running.
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This is we're at the ground floor of you
building this, and we're introducing it to the
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the listeners here.
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So that's fantastic.
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So when it comes to when it comes to your
health, and background and what you what you've
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gone through to get you to this point.
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Is that something you're willing to share with
with the with the audience and and and, you
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know, not trying to push and prod.
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I know that some things are definitely very,
very personal.
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But, you know, if if your story can even help
one person, you know, that that would be great
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if you're willing to talk about it and and
where you where you came from with all that.
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I'm I'm happy to talk about it.
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And every time I talk about it with somebody,
something new comes to light, and I learn
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something about myself as well, which is always
fascinating.
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But, yeah, I I went through a couple of things
that I think a lot of people can relate to.
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So the the kind of starting point was this is I
went through a really horrible burnout.
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Like, dysfunctional, could not feed myself,
barely get out of bed.
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Like, I just pushed myself too hard for it was
6 to 7 years, let's say, was, like, the brunt
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of it, but I'm sure the overachieving people
pleasing aspect of it started before then.
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And I wasn't really getting answers, when I was
speaking with therapist.
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I wasn't like there wasn't really a lot of help
there.
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And what did help me though was the community I
had around me.
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My family, my friends, people who, you know,
showed up and and checked on me, like, hey.
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Did you eat today?
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Let me make you some food.
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That's
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get you out of the house for a walk.
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Like, these because when you're so drained that
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yourself.
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I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that.
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And then take life, we can we can commute we
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I know 2 paramedics in my life who've taken
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It's a real thing.
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So that's where that started.
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I'm happy to go into that in more detail, but I
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addition to, like, you know, what I said is I
at one point, I had such extreme pain in my
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mouth, and I I'm the type of person who doesn't
usually take painkillers.
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I I try to, like, not.
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So, like, for me to to really need something
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What it turned out to be when I went to the
dentist is I was not only grinding my teeth.
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I wasn't wearing a mouse guard, at night.
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I was grinding it during the day.
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So every time I would see my boss' name, every
time I would get a notification, I every time I
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would talk, I would go to, like, you know, see
friends and talk about work, and I I felt
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myself grinding my teeth.
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And my dentist said, hey.
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You have ground your teeth so bad that it will
not get better.
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So now I cannot have really cold or really hot
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It, like, act it actually hurts my teeth.
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I've ground it down so much.
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So, I it's it's one of those things I never I
was like, oh, like, you know, I'll do what I
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can.
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I ended up getting Botox in my jaw to numb that
nerve so that you can't grind, which is a
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temporary solution.
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Botox wears off.
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But, like, it was nothing I had ever
considered, but I was so desperate.
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I'm like, I I'm not willing to ruin my teeth
for the rest of my life.
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I'm gonna suck it up and do this, because I
like food.
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Food is good.
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And the first part of digestion is always
great, you know, grinding it up.
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That's good.
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And, you
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know, I mean, you there's luckily, we have
false teeth in the world, but, yeah, we don't
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wanna go that route.
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My mom my mom, when she fell on concrete
outside of
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her high school, when she was a teenager, she
knocked out, like, all of her teeth
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top and bottom.
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So she had to go they extracted everything, and
she had false teeth from 18 on.
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Poor thing.
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So I mean, and she lived a healthy life and
everything.
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But, yeah, you don't wanna go down that path
for sure.
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But so so did it cause, like, migraines and
stuff too with that grinding and and, like, did
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it did it have anything to do with, you know so
are we clear to say that the burnout was a a
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depressive state, or did they diagnose you with
something different?
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My psychiatrist diagnosed me with a excuse me,
like, a terrible job, and said I needed to
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quit, basically.
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PTSD of the of the IT world.
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It's real.
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No.
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And she was like, this is this is a temporary
solution, or a temporary situation.
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And I know that once you quit, it's gonna go
away.
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And sure enough, it it did.
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I mean, granted, it took me a couple of years
to really get my feet under me.
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And then, you know, to cherry on the cake, I I
was in a pretty good place.
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I was ready to get back to myself, and I
stepped off a curb and tore apart my ankle.
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Oh, I had that.
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I had that.
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I thought, you know, it's like when you think
things are getting good, you you do something,
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you push yourself too hard.
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The last
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thing there.
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Been there.
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I chopped up my fingers on a table saw and, got
the top of this one off and then got into the
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other 3.
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Luckily, the blade was only up quarter of an
inch, and, it was just stupid mistake.
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I did the wrong thing, and it kicked the board
out, and my fingers dropped onto the saw blade.
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I'm like, I know what I did wrong.
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And, but that kinda sent me into a spiral
because I had to be off work.
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I we didn't have a, we didn't have a light duty
program at the time at my job.
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So I wasn't able to do what I wanna do and what
what fills fulfills me is serving my community,
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you know, and and serving others.
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That's I'm I'm here to serve.
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That's why I started the Ignition podcast to
serve the entrepreneurial side of me and other
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people out there that are entrepreneurs and and
promote their businesses.
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So I things were going bad.
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Like, I've my wife was like, you're not acting
right.
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And but, you know, I've crashed my car during
that time.
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Like, it was this crazy cycle.
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And so it just lays into what you you were
already in an in a in a state that you didn't
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like to be in, but you knew it, and you knew
the reason.
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And then you step off a curb and hurt yourself,
you know, it's like, you know, so it, you know,
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I think I didn't hurt anybody in the car
accident other than my car and their car.
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But, you know, it was just one of those things
where, I mean, I'm sitting there waiting for
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the police officer to come.
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And I ended up knowing the police officer
because it was in my local municipality.
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And I'm just like, I'm and I told him because
I've known him for years.
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I'm like, I am I'm at my lowest right now, man.
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I need help.
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And he's like, he's like, what do you mean you
need help?
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I'm like, I just I feel like everything's going
out of control.
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And so because he's a public servant and I'm
also a public servant and and and he's the
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police and I'm the paramedic he checked on me
several times over that that next couple of
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weeks you know just to say hey man you need to
go you know get a beer I'm like well no I don't
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need to go
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get a beer maybe a coffee
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you know but but it was one of those things
where I've been there, you know, and that's and
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that's, you know, the the stigma around asking
for help is so painful to do for first
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responders and for, you know, people that are
are leaders in their industry, like you're a
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leader in the software industry, I bet you it
wasn't didn't feel good to raise your hand.
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Right?
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But talk a little bit about that.
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Like, when did it when did it come about that
you're like, oh, I am I'm at rock bottom, and I
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need to do something about this.
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And then from that, did the the software, this
matchmaking, company come about?
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So the, I think there was 2 spots.
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There was one with the burnout, one with the
ankle where it, like, just hit absolute rock
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bottom because the ankle injury has now I'm on
year 2 of, healing because I keep reentering,
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which is, like, a totally different you know,
if you wanna talk about hypermobility, I I'm
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there with you.
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So, it's a there's a whole another story.
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But so the first was when I had a friend visit,
very, very good friend of mine, visit, and I
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was in the middle of that burnout.
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This was before I I went on leave because of
the burnout.
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And she came over, and all she did was clean up
and organize my kitchen.
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And I just I melt.
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I was just I like a puddle on the floor because
the fact that I did not have the energy to do
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that myself and it's not like, you know, there
was rotting vegetables or anything.
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Like, it wasn't like a disastrous mess, but it
it was more than I was comfortable with.
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And that it just it gave me a realization, and
she gave me a really good pep talk, and she's
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still a good friend of mine today.
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This is this is terrible, and it's gonna get
better.
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And I I think about what she said all the time.
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Well and that's great that you were able to
hear someone's I mean, that's that's gonna be
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heartbreaking in itself.
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You're you're hearing someone get real with
you.
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And that sends that depending on the person,
that could send you in a rage against them and
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never talk to them again, or it can send you in
a in an moment.
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So it you know, it's it's kudos to you for,
like, kudos to her for having the the the
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strength to tell you the the reality of what
she's seeing because you're not at that time,
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you're not seeing the reality.
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You're in a whole another state.
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I I know.
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You know?
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And and it's just great that you guys had that
relationship, and she was willing to do that
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for you because that probably helped a lot
more.
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You know?
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I mean, you know that now looking back.
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But but yeah.
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So let's go back to the, to the software
itself.
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So when it you mentioned a couple of different,
you know, chiropractory and stuff like that.
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Breathwork.
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Breathwork kinda led me to a gal that I
interviewed once that does, human design.
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Do you did you have you explored some of those
alternate areas that so people have options?
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Or or, like, how how much of of the different
alternate, you know, medical stuff is is
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involved with that to introduce it to people
because I had no clue what human design was
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until I was on a podcast, and and and my other
co host, you know, said, hey.
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We're having someone call on about human
design.
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I'm, like, what the hell does that mean?
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You know?
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And then they told me.
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I'm, like, wow.
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You pegged me for everything I am, and it's
such a it's but the birth date and the time so,
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you know, talk a little bit about that and and
how what what other services are inside of the
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of the software.
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Yeah.
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So for me, I I had this was a
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You're okay.
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This is a phone.
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I'm so sorry that it's my extra testing phone
that just went off behind me on the ground.
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I didn't even realize it was there.
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I'm so sorry.
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That's what I like about the the podcast
format, man.
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I'm just that that's not gonna get cut.
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We're just gonna leave that in there.
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I mean, it's a human.
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We're we're real people.
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I have to add extra devices because I work in
software and stuff that I'm
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a lot.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh, right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Gosh.
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Yeah.
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So, it was this realization I had.
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I I was speaking with someone, and she was
like, I I do this for people, and it's based on
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this this, like, her religious beliefs.
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And I was like, I think that's so beautiful
that you can build something that's based on
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something that matches with your values.
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And so from the, like, what you're talking
about, we're gonna create a I'm jokingly
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calling it a woo woo scale right now, but,
like, a sliding scale right now that has, like,
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you know, I traditional kind of healing or
traditional medicine and then, like, open to
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the universe on the other side, and you can
kind of pick where you are in that scale.
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And then that, along with your symptoms and a
bunch of other things, will match you up with
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right providers, because I do think that is
part of values and what we're comfortable with.
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Right?
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Like Right.
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You might be open to breath work or human
design or whatever, but not everyone's
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comfortable with that.
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And I don't think it's Yeah.
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You're not gonna
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You know, like and what I see with a lot of
what exists out there today is it's like, hey.
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We provide therapists.
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We provide functional medicine.
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We provide, like, one specific focus thing,
which is great, and it's wonderful that that
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exists.
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I do think though that people often want more
options.
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Like, I have a friend of mine who's tried
therapy, and it doesn't work for her, because
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it makes her relive her trauma and she just
can't.
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Like, it's just too much for her.
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But there are other types of modalities that
exist that could help her work through that
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without having to go through those horrible
things.
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Right?
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So it's just a matter of how can we create, the
kind of best space that helps match people and
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match people in a way that makes sense for
them.
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Like, I don't want you seeing something on
there that you're like, no.
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I'm like, that's not my thing.
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Like, I'm not.
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That's not you know, I'm not interested.
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Right?
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So how can we match this in a way that is
helpful, easy, and straightforward?
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So some a piece of, advice or the kind of a
standard that exists today in software is you
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should have 5 to 7 choices on a page maximum.
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So this is, like, in terms of buttons you click
on, in terms of actions you take, etcetera.
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So how can I get you on that first screen with
the search results to have 5 to 7 people that
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can truly, truly help you?
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Right?
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Because right now, I I wrote a list.
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I think I tried over 30 different types of
things to heal my ankles because it wasn't
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working.
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I kept on re injuring myself.
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I kept hurting myself, and the orthopedic doc
like, surgeon was like, rest.
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I'm like, okay.
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But my muscles have atrophied now because,
like, this is the you know, there's a point
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where this works and a point where it doesn't.
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So, like, we we need I need to find something
else.
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So I started doing my own research and digging
into it.
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And I I mean, I'm grateful that I have the
knowledge and the skills to be able to read
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some of these articles and, you know, like,
scientific studies, but that's not available to
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everyone.
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So how can this system create a a matchmaking
that connects people that, hey.
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Like, I have like, for example, if you're going
through something that's really tough with your
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kid, you probably want a therapist that has
kids and specializes in that type of thing.
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Right?
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You don't want somebody who's, you know, like,
you you need to have people who you can relate
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to and that and that, share the same values.
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If you're like, hey.
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I am miserable.
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I just need a break.
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Let's give you somebody who can provide you
relief.
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If you're like, hey.
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I need someone that keeps me accountable to,
like, get whatever it is that you need to get
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done.
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Let's let's get you someone that can do that.
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Right?
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So there's a there's a variety of systems that
I can talk about this for ages that basically
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match makes you to make this efficient.
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This is what I'm good at.
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I'm not good at, like you said, the, you know,
the modality and the medical part, but the I
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can do this piece of it.
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Yeah.
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And line people up in whatever they choose.
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It's almost like like you said.
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It's just the the way it works.
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So this is an app, or is it like a website that
you go to to to to, to, like, what's the what's
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the technical side of how this will work?
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Yeah.
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So something that I tell people that I don't
think a lot of people know is the when you have
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an app on the App Store or the Google Store,
they take 30% of your revenue off the bat,
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which I'm not okay with from a these
practitioners that are losing 30% of their
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charged rate.
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Like, that's not okay with me.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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So, so, yeah, we're launching a website because
that
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Website it is.
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Is a lot more fair.
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Well, the thing is it's a website that people
can get to from Chrome or, you know, Safari on
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their phone.
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Yeah.
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You make it super easy to use, and it's, like,
it it's effectively very similar.
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Apps have a lot of benefits, and I can talk
about the pros and cons of app versus website.
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But the biggest con for me is that 30%, and
then it it will cost you, like, 3, 4 times the
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amount in terms of development to build an app
over just building a website.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I didn't think about that.
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Yeah.
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Because that's a whole another ballgame.
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So okay.
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When it comes to so when you're talking about
the different modalities, you know, this is
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where I believe that the Path podcast and then
my other podcast, Elevate, which is for 1st
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responder health, mental health and resilience,
there's a little bit of a crossover here now
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because what you're describing of of some of
the modalities out there to help people,
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especially in the mental health space, let's
just talk about mental health for a second, let
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alone because it is health.
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I mean, mental health is health, and we all
need to know that.
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And if you don't think it is, then go listen to
the Elevate podcast with a lot of my guests,
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and you'll quickly realize that mental health
is a huge factor in our in our health care
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right now, let alone physical stuff.
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But a couple of the the guests that I had on
the Elevate podcast would be right up the alley
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of a different modality.
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Like, Maurice Zelkovich, for example, he is a
brain and train brainwave entrainment
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specialist, and he uses the he uses the the the
frequencies with headphones on to listen to
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sounds and music that he's produced that
stopped his mental health crisis on a dime.
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And other thing, like, my latest, guest, who is
doctor Lipoff, he's out of Chicago, and he does
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a a a a ganglion, injection to numb up the
nerve that's back behind us here that instantly
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within the 10 minute treatment, it stops
somebody with suicidal ideations.
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00:20:51,845 --> 00:20:58,884
So there is a lot of things that this podcast
and are getting to know each other and our
470
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future, you know, discussions.
471
00:21:00,164 --> 00:21:03,849
And you're in my network now, and you're in my
ecosystem, and we've talked about some other
472
00:21:03,849 --> 00:21:06,970
things we're definitely gonna be retouching
based on when you're getting to another level
473
00:21:06,970 --> 00:21:08,349
of of your own podcasting.
474
00:21:08,490 --> 00:21:08,990
Right?
475
00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:14,409
Because I think that's gonna be a great way for
you to spread the word of everything and have
476
00:21:14,409 --> 00:21:18,984
guests on yourself that would would show and
introduce them to the people that are gonna be
477
00:21:18,984 --> 00:21:21,384
in this in this, web page, not app.
478
00:21:21,384 --> 00:21:25,304
So, you know, there's some there's definitely
some things that I'm gonna be able to kick over
479
00:21:25,304 --> 00:21:29,085
to you, people that I know, people that I've
already had on my podcast, my detoxification
480
00:21:29,384 --> 00:21:30,089
Dan Root.
481
00:21:30,169 --> 00:21:35,049
You know, that's another huge thing about
detoxification and what that can do with sauna
482
00:21:35,049 --> 00:21:35,789
and niacin.
483
00:21:36,169 --> 00:21:40,190
It's just it's just a lot of really cool stuff,
and I think this is that that that crossroads
484
00:21:40,250 --> 00:21:45,634
where ignition path and your entrepreneurial
path is now bleeding into things that I've
485
00:21:45,634 --> 00:21:49,875
already, you know, found and and people that
I've already introduced to the world that that
486
00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:53,714
I'll introduce to you, at a later date and get
all those people's information to you so you
487
00:21:53,714 --> 00:21:54,434
can reach out to them.
488
00:21:54,434 --> 00:21:56,115
But but, yeah, anything else?
489
00:21:56,115 --> 00:22:01,440
Like, go ahead and tell us how like, right now,
talk to us a little bit more about the about
490
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,840
your your waiting list and how that operates
and if people are interested in wanting to use
491
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,740
this app eventually.
492
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:08,980
Like, what is the process at this time?
493
00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:09,860
Yeah.
494
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,765
Actually, from a business perspective, you
brought up waiting lists.
495
00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:17,484
And something that I've learned recently that I
think is fascinating is why waiting lists are
496
00:22:17,484 --> 00:22:18,125
so important.
497
00:22:18,125 --> 00:22:21,804
So because this is an entrepreneurial podcast,
I'm gonna I'm gonna get a little insight
498
00:22:21,804 --> 00:22:25,799
insight into all of the research I've been
doing, and then we'll get into how you can
499
00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:26,279
contact me.
500
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:29,099
But, waiting lists are important for two
reasons.
501
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:35,480
So one of them is that people, algorithms
change, things change, and so you are
502
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,565
effectively using someone else's platform for
social media that you don't control.
503
00:22:38,565 --> 00:22:43,684
And so if they decide to change something up,
you could lose out on that audience you have.
504
00:22:43,684 --> 00:22:49,444
So a wait waiting list is something that you
own that, you can use, or an email list.
505
00:22:49,444 --> 00:22:49,764
Right?
506
00:22:49,764 --> 00:22:54,309
And and that's why investors find email list
really important.
507
00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:59,490
And the higher subscription rate you have on
that email list, the more dedicated interest
508
00:22:59,490 --> 00:23:01,730
they gauge and the more comfortable they are
with investment.
509
00:23:01,730 --> 00:23:04,769
So it's just like an interesting thing that
I've been learning and putting pieces together.
510
00:23:04,769 --> 00:23:08,184
So, So, in terms of the waiting list, it's,
sahacollective.com.
511
00:23:10,484 --> 00:23:15,065
And then you can find me on, Instagram, TikTok,
and YouTube, saha.collective.
512
00:23:15,765 --> 00:23:17,464
So that's s a h a.
513
00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:22,609
And, yeah, we're, gonna be talking a lot about
the business, the modalities, bringing people
514
00:23:22,609 --> 00:23:28,450
on, and something I I tend to forget because it
it is really important, but it's just not
515
00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:34,875
something people think about, is one of the key
pieces of saha is we are creating a fund that
516
00:23:34,875 --> 00:23:38,554
will be available for people who otherwise
would not be able to afford the services
517
00:23:38,554 --> 00:23:39,674
because I don't think
518
00:23:40,554 --> 00:23:41,054
Yeah.
519
00:23:41,274 --> 00:23:41,994
That's great.
520
00:23:41,994 --> 00:23:42,315
Yeah.
521
00:23:42,315 --> 00:23:45,214
So it's like you've got a, like, a nonprofit
built into it.
522
00:23:45,355 --> 00:23:45,674
Yes.
523
00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:46,174
Exactly.
524
00:23:46,394 --> 00:23:46,875
So help
525
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them out.
526
00:23:47,674 --> 00:23:48,509
To help people out.
527
00:23:48,509 --> 00:23:52,830
So if we're gonna take a portion of the fees
that, you know, our proceeds, and we're gonna
528
00:23:52,830 --> 00:23:53,710
put it towards this fund.
529
00:23:53,710 --> 00:23:57,470
And then that means that the people who are
serving also get paid because they they wanna
530
00:23:57,470 --> 00:23:59,789
help people and they wanna help everyone
usually.
531
00:23:59,789 --> 00:24:04,304
And, like, it's it's not, you know, they can't
do it without getting paid, you know, at some
532
00:24:04,304 --> 00:24:08,484
level because they have families and lives and,
you know, they need to eat.
533
00:24:08,625 --> 00:24:10,304
So, that's That's good.
534
00:24:10,304 --> 00:24:10,804
Yeah.
535
00:24:10,865 --> 00:24:11,664
It's all new things.
536
00:24:11,664 --> 00:24:11,904
Right?
537
00:24:11,984 --> 00:24:15,910
Christian, you know that you know that when you
didn't eat for how many ever months?
538
00:24:15,910 --> 00:24:16,070
Yeah.
539
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:16,809
Not well.
540
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:17,750
Yeah.
541
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:21,349
So, that's like a really core part of the
business, and it's gonna be going live Yeah.
542
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:22,650
As soon as we go live.
543
00:24:23,670 --> 00:24:24,170
Fantastic.
544
00:24:24,309 --> 00:24:27,670
When it comes to so that word Saha, is that
what does that stand for?
545
00:24:27,670 --> 00:24:29,085
I don't think we covered that or did we?
546
00:24:29,085 --> 00:24:29,484
I don't think we did.
547
00:24:29,484 --> 00:24:29,764
I don't
548
00:24:29,764 --> 00:24:30,284
think we did.
549
00:24:30,605 --> 00:24:34,765
So SAHA is, well, first of all, it's easy to
spell and pronounce, which was really important
550
00:24:34,765 --> 00:24:35,825
from a business perspective.
551
00:24:35,884 --> 00:24:36,384
Yeah.
552
00:24:37,085 --> 00:24:37,585
Absolutely.
553
00:24:38,284 --> 00:24:38,524
Yeah.
554
00:24:38,524 --> 00:24:41,744
But it's, it translates to together or endure.
555
00:24:42,284 --> 00:24:46,069
And what I have found is that we endure through
hard things together.
556
00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:47,369
We don't do it on our own.
557
00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:48,230
Yeah.
558
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:48,730
Absolutely.
559
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:49,990
That's community.
560
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:53,829
You know, the there is strength in the
community, and that's that's what I'm finding
561
00:24:53,829 --> 00:24:57,204
with all kinds of my podcasting endeavors and
with everything.
562
00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:59,044
I'm finding the strength in the community.
563
00:24:59,044 --> 00:25:01,044
So, but yeah.
564
00:25:01,044 --> 00:25:02,884
Well, thanks so much for coming on.
565
00:25:03,284 --> 00:25:08,005
Don't don't forget that everything that she
mentioned will be in the in the notes down
566
00:25:08,005 --> 00:25:13,359
below, her website, how to get ahold how to be
on the, the wait list.
567
00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:16,720
Very excited to see this path and how how this
grows.
568
00:25:17,179 --> 00:25:20,940
You and I are gonna be in contact for sure
several different times for other reasons as
569
00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:22,220
well as as this.
570
00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:25,875
I wanna get you in contact with some of the
people that I've had on my other podcast as
571
00:25:25,875 --> 00:25:29,494
well already just so you know that there's
different things out there.
572
00:25:29,714 --> 00:25:34,035
And, from that, you know, I just wanna thank
you for coming on, Elinka, and we appreciate
573
00:25:34,035 --> 00:25:35,575
your time and and your insight.
574
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,880
And, don't forget to subscribe, like, share,
all that good stuff.
575
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,200
If if something resonated with you on this
podcast, don't hesitate to share it with your
576
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,640
friends so we can get her information into
their ears and, and and help people because
577
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,275
that's ultimately what I have put on this earth
to do is to help people by becoming a by being
578
00:25:54,275 --> 00:25:54,934
a paramedic.
579
00:25:54,994 --> 00:25:59,315
And now when it comes to the entrepreneurial
space, I wanna help my fellow entrepreneur grow
580
00:25:59,315 --> 00:26:00,994
their path and and be a part of their path.
581
00:26:00,994 --> 00:26:03,794
And I think that Alenka and I have have
definitely established that.
582
00:26:03,794 --> 00:26:08,299
We've had a couple of other offline
conversations that that, she knows what I'm
583
00:26:08,299 --> 00:26:12,539
doing and and the great things that I'm
planning on doing for my retirement with this
584
00:26:12,539 --> 00:26:17,580
podcast platform and, and knowing more about
what she's doing, it's it's just it's amazing.
585
00:26:17,580 --> 00:26:18,619
I appreciate it, Alyka.
586
00:26:18,619 --> 00:26:22,974
So thanks again for coming on, and, any last
words or no?
587
00:26:22,974 --> 00:26:23,214
No.
588
00:26:23,214 --> 00:26:27,214
I'm just really I to what you said, I think
it's like you're here to help people and and,
589
00:26:27,214 --> 00:26:31,134
like, if I'm one of those people, I am I'm
finding I am here to help people, and that is
590
00:26:31,134 --> 00:26:33,454
what I find the most fulfilling is to to help
other people.
591
00:26:33,454 --> 00:26:35,039
That that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.
592
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:35,920
Awesome.
593
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,240
Awesome.
594
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:36,740
Awesome.
595
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,200
Alright.
596
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,559
Well, thanks so much, everybody.
597
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:40,160
Take care, and thanks for tuning in.
598
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,820
We we appreciate you coming on the Ignition
Path podcast.
599
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,940
Take care, everyone.
600
00:26:44,679 --> 00:26:49,578
Thank you for listening to Ignition Path,
fueling the entrepreneurial fire.
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So how can I get you on that first screen with
the search results to have 5 to 7 people that
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can truly, truly help you?
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Right?
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Because right now, I I wrote a list.
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I think I tried over 30 different types of
things to heal my ankles because it wasn't
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working.
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Hello, and welcome back to the Ignition Path
podcast.
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My fellow igniters, welcome in.
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I appreciate you joining us.
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Don't forget to like, share, subscribe, and,
tell your friends.
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If you hear something during this podcast that
resonates with you, share this this episode
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with people.
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Right now, we've got a guest coming in, Elenka.
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How do you say your last name, Elenka?
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Kis Yeah.
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Kislick.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Oh, okay.
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I got it right.
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So this is Elenka Kislik, and she's gonna tell
you all about her business and her
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entrepreneurial path because that's what we're
about here on the Ignition Path podcast.
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So go ahead, Elenka, and and tell us exactly,
you know, the the proper way maybe to say your
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name.
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I always butcher that stuff.
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And then who you are, what you do, and and
we'll go from there.
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Yeah.
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So, hi.
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My name is Alenka Kislick.
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The first name is phonetic.
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It's easy enough.
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The spelling is what trips people up, usually.
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And I have, recently decided to launch a
business.
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I've been in, software creation product
management for almost 15 years of my career,
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and through a series of health issues, which
I'm sure we'll get into.
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I realized that I wasn't finding the answers in
conventional medicine and I found them in other
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ways.
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And so I decided to create something that could
also help other people.
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And so the business is called Zaha, and the
concept is that we match people based on shared
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values.
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So we match providers and clients based on
shared values to help them find someone that
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can help them where they're at today.
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And this is much like any sort of, matchmaking
system.
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Right?
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If you think about booking, vacation rentals
or, other types of things that where it's like,
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hey.
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I have a series of filters, and then there's a
series of, you know, places I can be connected
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with.
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We're doing that, but we're doing it with,
different types of providers, health care
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providers, and this health care and modalities.
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Right?
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So we're talking a range of, things from, like,
acupuncture, chiropractic, functional medicine
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to, things like physical therapy, pelvic floor
therapists, breathwork practitioners, coaches,
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etcetera.
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Just depend nutritionists, dietitians, depends
on what you need.
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That's that's fantastic.
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Sorry.
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My my my recording software just pushed
something up on my page, and I've never seen it
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before.
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But so I had to, like, read.
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Like, what
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is it telling me?
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I'm like, what is it telling me?
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So, hopefully, this is, going good.
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But but, yeah, that's great.
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So what is your what is the background that you
have that even brought I mean, you said
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software, but do you have any health care
background as well or just just through the
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process of your your health journey, the this
came about?
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So background and software, but any anything in
health other than your own issues?
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My own issues, don't we all?
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Is that your own your own, for lack of better
terms?
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I I often don't say the right words every time.
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No.
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I'm good with issues.
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We all have I got issues too.
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We all got issues.
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Yeah.
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Now I'm gonna have that sound stuck in my head.
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Yes.
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So, I don't have Yeah.
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I don't have a background in medicine.
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I am a super curious person, and I research a
lot.
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Grant, that being said, I am building a medical
and modality advisory board so that all of
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everything gets vetted through them.
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I am the person building the system.
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Someone else is vetting the the bad aspect of
it because I I don't wanna ever say I'm the
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expert in something I'm not.
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Gotcha.
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Gotcha.
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You're the expert in the software and building
that part of it and then and then lining people
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up and and making sure they have an answer.
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That's a it's a great service.
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I mean, who knew that that that's what we need
in this world, but it definitely sounds
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important to make sure that this is something
that that people can find and people can use.
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Is it live and running now?
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Like, can we post it in the description below,
or is it is it in beta?
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We're gonna be running focus groups soon, and
the wait list is live.
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So for people who are interested, they can sign
up there.
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But, no, we're we're in the beginning stages of
it.
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Everything takes longer than you think it is.
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We were talking about renovations before we
started.
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Software is very similar to renovations.
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It always takes
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longer than we do.
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100%.
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And, you know, this is great because that it
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on once you're once everything's up and
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This is we're at the ground floor of you
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So that's fantastic.
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So when it comes to when it comes to your
health, and background and what you what you've
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gone through to get you to this point.
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Is that something you're willing to share with
with the with the audience and and and, you
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know, not trying to push and prod.
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I know that some things are definitely very,
very personal.
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But, you know, if if your story can even help
one person, you know, that that would be great
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if you're willing to talk about it and and
where you where you came from with all that.
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I'm I'm happy to talk about it.
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And every time I talk about it with somebody,
something new comes to light, and I learn
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something about myself as well, which is always
fascinating.
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But, yeah, I I went through a couple of things
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So the the kind of starting point was this is I
went through a really horrible burnout.
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Like, dysfunctional, could not feed myself,
barely get out of bed.
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Like, I just pushed myself too hard for it was
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of it, but I'm sure the overachieving people
pleasing aspect of it started before then.
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I wasn't like there wasn't really a lot of help
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My family, my friends, people who, you know,
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Did you eat today?
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Let me make you some food.
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That's
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get you out of the house for a walk.
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Like, these because when you're so drained that
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I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that.
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And then take life, we can we can commute we
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I know 2 paramedics in my life who've taken
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It's a real thing.
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So that's where that started.
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I'm happy to go into that in more detail, but I
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addition to, like, you know, what I said is I
at one point, I had such extreme pain in my
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mouth, and I I'm the type of person who doesn't
usually take painkillers.
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I I try to, like, not.
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So, like, for me to to really need something
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What it turned out to be when I went to the
dentist is I was not only grinding my teeth.
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I wasn't wearing a mouse guard, at night.
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So every time I would see my boss' name, every
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would talk, I would go to, like, you know, see
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myself grinding my teeth.
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You have ground your teeth so bad that it will
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It, like, act it actually hurts my teeth.
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I've ground it down so much.
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So, I it's it's one of those things I never I
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can.
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I ended up getting Botox in my jaw to numb that
nerve so that you can't grind, which is a
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temporary solution.
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Botox wears off.
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But, like, it was nothing I had ever
considered, but I was so desperate.
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I'm like, I I'm not willing to ruin my teeth
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I'm gonna suck it up and do this, because I
like food.
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Food is good.
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And the first part of digestion is always
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That's good.
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And, you
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know, I mean, you there's luckily, we have
false teeth in the world, but, yeah, we don't
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wanna go that route.
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My mom my mom, when she fell on concrete
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her high school, when she was a teenager, she
knocked out, like, all of her teeth
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top and bottom.
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Poor thing.
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So I mean, and she lived a healthy life and
everything.
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But so so did it cause, like, migraines and
stuff too with that grinding and and, like, did
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it did it have anything to do with, you know so
are we clear to say that the burnout was a a
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depressive state, or did they diagnose you with
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My psychiatrist diagnosed me with a excuse me,
like, a terrible job, and said I needed to
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quit, basically.
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PTSD of the of the IT world.
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It's real.
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And she was like, this is this is a temporary
solution, or a temporary situation.
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And I know that once you quit, it's gonna go
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I mean, granted, it took me a couple of years
to really get my feet under me.
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was in a pretty good place.
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I was ready to get back to myself, and I
stepped off a curb and tore apart my ankle.
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I had that.
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I thought, you know, it's like when you think
things are getting good, you you do something,
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you push yourself too hard.
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The last
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thing there.
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Been there.
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I chopped up my fingers on a table saw and, got
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other 3.
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Luckily, the blade was only up quarter of an
inch, and, it was just stupid mistake.
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I did the wrong thing, and it kicked the board
out, and my fingers dropped onto the saw blade.
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I'm like, I know what I did wrong.
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because I had to be off work.
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I we didn't have a, we didn't have a light duty
program at the time at my job.
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So I wasn't able to do what I wanna do and what
what fills fulfills me is serving my community,
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you know, and and serving others.
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That's I'm I'm here to serve.
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That's why I started the Ignition podcast to
serve the entrepreneurial side of me and other
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people out there that are entrepreneurs and and
promote their businesses.
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So I things were going bad.
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Like, I've my wife was like, you're not acting
right.
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And but, you know, I've crashed my car during
that time.
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Like, it was this crazy cycle.
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And so it just lays into what you you were
already in an in a in a state that you didn't
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like to be in, but you knew it, and you knew
the reason.
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And then you step off a curb and hurt yourself,
you know, it's like, you know, so it, you know,
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I think I didn't hurt anybody in the car
accident other than my car and their car.
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But, you know, it was just one of those things
where, I mean, I'm sitting there waiting for
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the police officer to come.
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And I ended up knowing the police officer
because it was in my local municipality.
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And I'm just like, I'm and I told him because
I've known him for years.
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I'm like, I am I'm at my lowest right now, man.
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I need help.
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And he's like, he's like, what do you mean you
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I'm like, I just I feel like everything's going
out of control.
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And so because he's a public servant and I'm
also a public servant and and and he's the
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police and I'm the paramedic he checked on me
several times over that that next couple of
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weeks you know just to say hey man you need to
go you know get a beer I'm like well no I don't
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need to go
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get a beer maybe a coffee
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you know but but it was one of those things
where I've been there, you know, and that's and
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that's, you know, the the stigma around asking
for help is so painful to do for first
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responders and for, you know, people that are
are leaders in their industry, like you're a
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leader in the software industry, I bet you it
wasn't didn't feel good to raise your hand.
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Right?
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But talk a little bit about that.
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Like, when did it when did it come about that
you're like, oh, I am I'm at rock bottom, and I
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need to do something about this.
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And then from that, did the the software, this
matchmaking, company come about?
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So the, I think there was 2 spots.
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There was one with the burnout, one with the
ankle where it, like, just hit absolute rock
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bottom because the ankle injury has now I'm on
year 2 of, healing because I keep reentering,
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which is, like, a totally different you know,
if you wanna talk about hypermobility, I I'm
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there with you.
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So, it's a there's a whole another story.
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But so the first was when I had a friend visit,
very, very good friend of mine, visit, and I
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was in the middle of that burnout.
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This was before I I went on leave because of
the burnout.
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And she came over, and all she did was clean up
and organize my kitchen.
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And I just I melt.
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I was just I like a puddle on the floor because
the fact that I did not have the energy to do
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that myself and it's not like, you know, there
was rotting vegetables or anything.
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Like, it wasn't like a disastrous mess, but it
it was more than I was comfortable with.
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And that it just it gave me a realization, and
she gave me a really good pep talk, and she's
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still a good friend of mine today.
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This is this is terrible, and it's gonna get
better.
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And I I think about what she said all the time.
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Well and that's great that you were able to
hear someone's I mean, that's that's gonna be
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heartbreaking in itself.
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You're you're hearing someone get real with
you.
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And that sends that depending on the person,
that could send you in a rage against them and
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never talk to them again, or it can send you in
a in an moment.
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So it you know, it's it's kudos to you for,
like, kudos to her for having the the the
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strength to tell you the the reality of what
she's seeing because you're not at that time,
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you're not seeing the reality.
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You're in a whole another state.
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I I know.
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You know?
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And and it's just great that you guys had that
relationship, and she was willing to do that
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for you because that probably helped a lot
more.
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You know?
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I mean, you know that now looking back.
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But but yeah.
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So let's go back to the, to the software
itself.
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So when it you mentioned a couple of different,
you know, chiropractory and stuff like that.
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Breathwork.
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Breathwork kinda led me to a gal that I
interviewed once that does, human design.
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Do you did you have you explored some of those
alternate areas that so people have options?
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Or or, like, how how much of of the different
alternate, you know, medical stuff is is
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involved with that to introduce it to people
because I had no clue what human design was
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until I was on a podcast, and and and my other
co host, you know, said, hey.
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We're having someone call on about human
design.
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I'm, like, what the hell does that mean?
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You know?
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And then they told me.
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I'm, like, wow.
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You pegged me for everything I am, and it's
such a it's but the birth date and the time so,
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you know, talk a little bit about that and and
how what what other services are inside of the
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of the software.
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So for me, I I had this was a
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You're okay.
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This is a phone.
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I'm so sorry that it's my extra testing phone
that just went off behind me on the ground.
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I didn't even realize it was there.
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I'm so sorry.
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That's what I like about the the podcast
format, man.
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I'm just that that's not gonna get cut.
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We're just gonna leave that in there.
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I mean, it's a human.
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We're we're real people.
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I have to add extra devices because I work in
software and stuff that I'm
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a lot.
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Oh my gosh.
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Oh, right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Gosh.
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Yeah.
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So, it was this realization I had.
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I I was speaking with someone, and she was
like, I I do this for people, and it's based on
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this this, like, her religious beliefs.
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And I was like, I think that's so beautiful
that you can build something that's based on
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something that matches with your values.
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And so from the, like, what you're talking
about, we're gonna create a I'm jokingly
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calling it a woo woo scale right now, but,
like, a sliding scale right now that has, like,
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you know, I traditional kind of healing or
traditional medicine and then, like, open to
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the universe on the other side, and you can
kind of pick where you are in that scale.
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And then that, along with your symptoms and a
bunch of other things, will match you up with
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right providers, because I do think that is
part of values and what we're comfortable with.
356
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Right?
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Like Right.
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You might be open to breath work or human
design or whatever, but not everyone's
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comfortable with that.
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And I don't think it's Yeah.
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You're not gonna
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You know, like and what I see with a lot of
what exists out there today is it's like, hey.
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We provide therapists.
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We provide functional medicine.
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We provide, like, one specific focus thing,
which is great, and it's wonderful that that
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exists.
367
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I do think though that people often want more
options.
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Like, I have a friend of mine who's tried
therapy, and it doesn't work for her, because
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it makes her relive her trauma and she just
can't.
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Like, it's just too much for her.
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But there are other types of modalities that
exist that could help her work through that
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without having to go through those horrible
things.
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Right?
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So it's just a matter of how can we create, the
kind of best space that helps match people and
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match people in a way that makes sense for
them.
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Like, I don't want you seeing something on
there that you're like, no.
377
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I'm like, that's not my thing.
378
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Like, I'm not.
379
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That's not you know, I'm not interested.
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Right?
381
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So how can we match this in a way that is
helpful, easy, and straightforward?
382
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So some a piece of, advice or the kind of a
standard that exists today in software is you
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should have 5 to 7 choices on a page maximum.
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So this is, like, in terms of buttons you click
on, in terms of actions you take, etcetera.
385
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So how can I get you on that first screen with
the search results to have 5 to 7 people that
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can truly, truly help you?
387
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Right?
388
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Because right now, I I wrote a list.
389
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I think I tried over 30 different types of
things to heal my ankles because it wasn't
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working.
391
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I kept on re injuring myself.
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I kept hurting myself, and the orthopedic doc
like, surgeon was like, rest.
393
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I'm like, okay.
394
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But my muscles have atrophied now because,
like, this is the you know, there's a point
395
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where this works and a point where it doesn't.
396
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So, like, we we need I need to find something
else.
397
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So I started doing my own research and digging
into it.
398
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And I I mean, I'm grateful that I have the
knowledge and the skills to be able to read
399
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some of these articles and, you know, like,
scientific studies, but that's not available to
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everyone.
401
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So how can this system create a a matchmaking
that connects people that, hey.
402
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Like, I have like, for example, if you're going
through something that's really tough with your
403
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kid, you probably want a therapist that has
kids and specializes in that type of thing.
404
00:17:41,974 --> 00:17:42,474
Right?
405
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You don't want somebody who's, you know, like,
you you need to have people who you can relate
406
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to and that and that, share the same values.
407
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If you're like, hey.
408
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I am miserable.
409
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I just need a break.
410
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Let's give you somebody who can provide you
relief.
411
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If you're like, hey.
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I need someone that keeps me accountable to,
like, get whatever it is that you need to get
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done.
414
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Let's let's get you someone that can do that.
415
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Right?
416
00:18:04,004 --> 00:18:07,444
So there's a there's a variety of systems that
I can talk about this for ages that basically
417
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match makes you to make this efficient.
418
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This is what I'm good at.
419
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I'm not good at, like you said, the, you know,
the modality and the medical part, but the I
420
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can do this piece of it.
421
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Yeah.
422
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And line people up in whatever they choose.
423
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It's almost like like you said.
424
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It's just the the way it works.
425
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So this is an app, or is it like a website that
you go to to to to, to, like, what's the what's
426
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the technical side of how this will work?
427
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Yeah.
428
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So something that I tell people that I don't
think a lot of people know is the when you have
429
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an app on the App Store or the Google Store,
they take 30% of your revenue off the bat,
430
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which I'm not okay with from a these
practitioners that are losing 30% of their
431
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charged rate.
432
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Like, that's not okay with me.
433
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You know?
434
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Yeah.
435
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So, so, yeah, we're launching a website because
that
436
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Website it is.
437
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Is a lot more fair.
438
00:19:01,294 --> 00:19:05,774
Well, the thing is it's a website that people
can get to from Chrome or, you know, Safari on
439
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their phone.
440
00:19:06,174 --> 00:19:06,494
Yeah.
441
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You make it super easy to use, and it's, like,
it it's effectively very similar.
442
00:19:10,669 --> 00:19:14,509
Apps have a lot of benefits, and I can talk
about the pros and cons of app versus website.
443
00:19:15,230 --> 00:19:20,990
But the biggest con for me is that 30%, and
then it it will cost you, like, 3, 4 times the
444
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amount in terms of development to build an app
over just building a website.
445
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Yeah.
446
00:19:24,669 --> 00:19:25,035
Yeah.
447
00:19:25,115 --> 00:19:25,994
I didn't think about that.
448
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Yeah.
449
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Because that's a whole another ballgame.
450
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So okay.
451
00:19:29,595 --> 00:19:33,835
When it comes to so when you're talking about
the different modalities, you know, this is
452
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where I believe that the Path podcast and then
my other podcast, Elevate, which is for 1st
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responder health, mental health and resilience,
there's a little bit of a crossover here now
454
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because what you're describing of of some of
the modalities out there to help people,
455
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especially in the mental health space, let's
just talk about mental health for a second, let
456
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alone because it is health.
457
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I mean, mental health is health, and we all
need to know that.
458
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And if you don't think it is, then go listen to
the Elevate podcast with a lot of my guests,
459
00:20:01,355 --> 00:20:06,234
and you'll quickly realize that mental health
is a huge factor in our in our health care
460
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right now, let alone physical stuff.
461
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,599
But a couple of the the guests that I had on
the Elevate podcast would be right up the alley
462
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of a different modality.
463
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,779
Like, Maurice Zelkovich, for example, he is a
brain and train brainwave entrainment
464
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specialist, and he uses the he uses the the the
frequencies with headphones on to listen to
465
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sounds and music that he's produced that
stopped his mental health crisis on a dime.
466
00:20:33,934 --> 00:20:41,750
And other thing, like, my latest, guest, who is
doctor Lipoff, he's out of Chicago, and he does
467
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a a a a ganglion, injection to numb up the
nerve that's back behind us here that instantly
468
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within the 10 minute treatment, it stops
somebody with suicidal ideations.
469
00:20:51,845 --> 00:20:58,884
So there is a lot of things that this podcast
and are getting to know each other and our
470
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future, you know, discussions.
471
00:21:00,164 --> 00:21:03,849
And you're in my network now, and you're in my
ecosystem, and we've talked about some other
472
00:21:03,849 --> 00:21:06,970
things we're definitely gonna be retouching
based on when you're getting to another level
473
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of of your own podcasting.
474
00:21:08,490 --> 00:21:08,990
Right?
475
00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:14,409
Because I think that's gonna be a great way for
you to spread the word of everything and have
476
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guests on yourself that would would show and
introduce them to the people that are gonna be
477
00:21:18,984 --> 00:21:21,384
in this in this, web page, not app.
478
00:21:21,384 --> 00:21:25,304
So, you know, there's some there's definitely
some things that I'm gonna be able to kick over
479
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to you, people that I know, people that I've
already had on my podcast, my detoxification
480
00:21:29,384 --> 00:21:30,089
Dan Root.
481
00:21:30,169 --> 00:21:35,049
You know, that's another huge thing about
detoxification and what that can do with sauna
482
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and niacin.
483
00:21:36,169 --> 00:21:40,190
It's just it's just a lot of really cool stuff,
and I think this is that that that crossroads
484
00:21:40,250 --> 00:21:45,634
where ignition path and your entrepreneurial
path is now bleeding into things that I've
485
00:21:45,634 --> 00:21:49,875
already, you know, found and and people that
I've already introduced to the world that that
486
00:21:49,875 --> 00:21:53,714
I'll introduce to you, at a later date and get
all those people's information to you so you
487
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can reach out to them.
488
00:21:54,434 --> 00:21:56,115
But but, yeah, anything else?
489
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Like, go ahead and tell us how like, right now,
talk to us a little bit more about the about
490
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,840
your your waiting list and how that operates
and if people are interested in wanting to use
491
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this app eventually.
492
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:08,980
Like, what is the process at this time?
493
00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:09,860
Yeah.
494
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,765
Actually, from a business perspective, you
brought up waiting lists.
495
00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:17,484
And something that I've learned recently that I
think is fascinating is why waiting lists are
496
00:22:17,484 --> 00:22:18,125
so important.
497
00:22:18,125 --> 00:22:21,804
So because this is an entrepreneurial podcast,
I'm gonna I'm gonna get a little insight
498
00:22:21,804 --> 00:22:25,799
insight into all of the research I've been
doing, and then we'll get into how you can
499
00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:26,279
contact me.
500
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:29,099
But, waiting lists are important for two
reasons.
501
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:35,480
So one of them is that people, algorithms
change, things change, and so you are
502
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,565
effectively using someone else's platform for
social media that you don't control.
503
00:22:38,565 --> 00:22:43,684
And so if they decide to change something up,
you could lose out on that audience you have.
504
00:22:43,684 --> 00:22:49,444
So a wait waiting list is something that you
own that, you can use, or an email list.
505
00:22:49,444 --> 00:22:49,764
Right?
506
00:22:49,764 --> 00:22:54,309
And and that's why investors find email list
really important.
507
00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:59,490
And the higher subscription rate you have on
that email list, the more dedicated interest
508
00:22:59,490 --> 00:23:01,730
they gauge and the more comfortable they are
with investment.
509
00:23:01,730 --> 00:23:04,769
So it's just like an interesting thing that
I've been learning and putting pieces together.
510
00:23:04,769 --> 00:23:08,184
So, So, in terms of the waiting list, it's,
sahacollective.com.
511
00:23:10,484 --> 00:23:15,065
And then you can find me on, Instagram, TikTok,
and YouTube, saha.collective.
512
00:23:15,765 --> 00:23:17,464
So that's s a h a.
513
00:23:17,730 --> 00:23:22,609
And, yeah, we're, gonna be talking a lot about
the business, the modalities, bringing people
514
00:23:22,609 --> 00:23:28,450
on, and something I I tend to forget because it
it is really important, but it's just not
515
00:23:28,450 --> 00:23:34,875
something people think about, is one of the key
pieces of saha is we are creating a fund that
516
00:23:34,875 --> 00:23:38,554
will be available for people who otherwise
would not be able to afford the services
517
00:23:38,554 --> 00:23:39,674
because I don't think
518
00:23:40,554 --> 00:23:41,054
Yeah.
519
00:23:41,274 --> 00:23:41,994
That's great.
520
00:23:41,994 --> 00:23:42,315
Yeah.
521
00:23:42,315 --> 00:23:45,214
So it's like you've got a, like, a nonprofit
built into it.
522
00:23:45,355 --> 00:23:45,674
Yes.
523
00:23:45,674 --> 00:23:46,174
Exactly.
524
00:23:46,394 --> 00:23:46,875
So help
525
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them out.
526
00:23:47,674 --> 00:23:48,509
To help people out.
527
00:23:48,509 --> 00:23:52,830
So if we're gonna take a portion of the fees
that, you know, our proceeds, and we're gonna
528
00:23:52,830 --> 00:23:53,710
put it towards this fund.
529
00:23:53,710 --> 00:23:57,470
And then that means that the people who are
serving also get paid because they they wanna
530
00:23:57,470 --> 00:23:59,789
help people and they wanna help everyone
usually.
531
00:23:59,789 --> 00:24:04,304
And, like, it's it's not, you know, they can't
do it without getting paid, you know, at some
532
00:24:04,304 --> 00:24:08,484
level because they have families and lives and,
you know, they need to eat.
533
00:24:08,625 --> 00:24:10,304
So, that's That's good.
534
00:24:10,304 --> 00:24:10,804
Yeah.
535
00:24:10,865 --> 00:24:11,664
It's all new things.
536
00:24:11,664 --> 00:24:11,904
Right?
537
00:24:11,984 --> 00:24:15,910
Christian, you know that you know that when you
didn't eat for how many ever months?
538
00:24:15,910 --> 00:24:16,070
Yeah.
539
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:16,809
Not well.
540
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:17,750
Yeah.
541
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:21,349
So, that's like a really core part of the
business, and it's gonna be going live Yeah.
542
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:22,650
As soon as we go live.
543
00:24:23,670 --> 00:24:24,170
Fantastic.
544
00:24:24,309 --> 00:24:27,670
When it comes to so that word Saha, is that
what does that stand for?
545
00:24:27,670 --> 00:24:29,085
I don't think we covered that or did we?
546
00:24:29,085 --> 00:24:29,484
I don't think we did.
547
00:24:29,484 --> 00:24:29,764
I don't
548
00:24:29,764 --> 00:24:30,284
think we did.
549
00:24:30,605 --> 00:24:34,765
So SAHA is, well, first of all, it's easy to
spell and pronounce, which was really important
550
00:24:34,765 --> 00:24:35,825
from a business perspective.
551
00:24:35,884 --> 00:24:36,384
Yeah.
552
00:24:37,085 --> 00:24:37,585
Absolutely.
553
00:24:38,284 --> 00:24:38,524
Yeah.
554
00:24:38,524 --> 00:24:41,744
But it's, it translates to together or endure.
555
00:24:42,284 --> 00:24:46,069
And what I have found is that we endure through
hard things together.
556
00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:47,369
We don't do it on our own.
557
00:24:47,910 --> 00:24:48,230
Yeah.
558
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:48,730
Absolutely.
559
00:24:49,190 --> 00:24:49,990
That's community.
560
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:53,829
You know, the there is strength in the
community, and that's that's what I'm finding
561
00:24:53,829 --> 00:24:57,204
with all kinds of my podcasting endeavors and
with everything.
562
00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:59,044
I'm finding the strength in the community.
563
00:24:59,044 --> 00:25:01,044
So, but yeah.
564
00:25:01,044 --> 00:25:02,884
Well, thanks so much for coming on.
565
00:25:03,284 --> 00:25:08,005
Don't don't forget that everything that she
mentioned will be in the in the notes down
566
00:25:08,005 --> 00:25:13,359
below, her website, how to get ahold how to be
on the, the wait list.
567
00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:16,720
Very excited to see this path and how how this
grows.
568
00:25:17,179 --> 00:25:20,940
You and I are gonna be in contact for sure
several different times for other reasons as
569
00:25:20,940 --> 00:25:22,220
well as as this.
570
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I wanna get you in contact with some of the
people that I've had on my other podcast as
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well already just so you know that there's
different things out there.
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And, from that, you know, I just wanna thank
you for coming on, Elinka, and we appreciate
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your time and and your insight.
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And, don't forget to subscribe, like, share,
all that good stuff.
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If if something resonated with you on this
podcast, don't hesitate to share it with your
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friends so we can get her information into
their ears and, and and help people because
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that's ultimately what I have put on this earth
to do is to help people by becoming a by being
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a paramedic.
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And now when it comes to the entrepreneurial
space, I wanna help my fellow entrepreneur grow
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their path and and be a part of their path.
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And I think that Alenka and I have have
definitely established that.
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We've had a couple of other offline
conversations that that, she knows what I'm
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doing and and the great things that I'm
planning on doing for my retirement with this
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podcast platform and, and knowing more about
what she's doing, it's it's just it's amazing.
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I appreciate it, Alyka.
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So thanks again for coming on, and, any last
words or no?
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No.
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I'm just really I to what you said, I think
it's like you're here to help people and and,
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like, if I'm one of those people, I am I'm
finding I am here to help people, and that is
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what I find the most fulfilling is to to help
other people.
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That that's why I'm doing what I'm doing.
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Awesome.
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Awesome.
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Awesome.
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Alright.
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Well, thanks so much, everybody.
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Take care, and thanks for tuning in.
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We we appreciate you coming on the Ignition
Path podcast.
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Take care, everyone.
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Thank you for listening to Ignition Path,
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