Ep.118 Ryan Bennett Explains How To Get Good At Archery, And Much More!

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Hunts on this is Huntson Outfitting Podcast.
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I'm your host and rookie guide, Ken Mare.
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I love everything hunting, the outdoors, and all things associated with it.
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From stories to how-tos, you'll find it here.
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Welcome to the podcast.
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Hey, yes, I'm super excited and pumped up to have you guys listening.
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I was excited to record this podcast, and I'm even more excited to put it out.
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This was recorded uh about a month or two ago now.
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We are talking with Ryan Bow Madness Bennett.
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Ryan is a very talented young archery shooter who's incredibly humble.
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The dude's very humble.
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You'll learn that on the podcast.
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Ryan was a lot of fun to chat with.
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We talk all about uh his shooting career thus far.
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We talk a little bit about some outfitting that he and his family do.
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We talk about when he went to Vegas shooting and uh a little bit of what stuff's like in Vegas.
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We talk about when he went to France shooting and what it was like there, different culture and stuff.
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We have some laughs.
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We're joined by fellow hoop crew member Lane Lewis and also friend Darren Matthews.
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Darren shoots alongside with Ryan.
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Uh Ryan, this is his first ever podcast, but you'd swear he's been doing it longer than me.
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Great, natural on the mic.
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So it's a lot of fun.
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You guys are gonna enjoy this.
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Ryan is a great shooter, and uh you know, uh when you need to do high performance stuff and shoot at a good level and all that, you want the best.
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And there's always debate what the best is.
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But I'll tell you where the debate and what feeding your dog there's no debate.
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The best is a Nookshuk dog food.
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My dogs are great proof of it, all six of them.
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They look great, perform great, uh, and they feel great.
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You can tell by the way they run around and move and everything.
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And Nookshok dog food's gonna help your dog the same way.
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Whether it's you have a really active dog, a young dog, an old dog, or just a medium level energy dog, and nookshuk's gonna blend for you with all the different ones that they do have.
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So just uh just to let you guys know.
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Also, um I figured I'd share this because uh we're gonna be talking about archery on this podcast.
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And the unfortunate thing is that if you've been hunting big game long enough or hunt you know, hunting long enough, either this has either happened to you or will happen to you.
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If it hasn't, unfortunately it's coming, or you say it hasn't, somebody might be lying.
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But uh wounding an animal and not being able to find it.
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Unfortunately, it's a part of big game hunting that really, really sucks.
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It has never happened to me before uh until this past Friday.
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I was out and uh had a great big tank of a black bear come in.
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This thing was pushing 400 pounds plus just an absolute monster of a bear.
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He came in, I was about 13, 14 yards and a ground blind.
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It was pretty incredible seeing an animal, a beast of that size come in so close to me.
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I pulled back, shot, felt pretty good about the shot.
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Hit him, he took off.
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Uh we ended up recover.
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I was with some friends, we ended up recovering the arrow, clean pass through, the blood all through the arrow, good clean pass through.
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So then I looked down, found blood.
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We were seeing lots of blood.
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It was all the right colors of blood, too.
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It was like that nice, dark, thick blood.
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Like we're good to go.
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Started tracking him.
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Um we tracked later into the night.
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We hadn't heard anything more from the bear.
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We heard him at first, almost sounded like he was coughing, never heard anything again.
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Was able to track for about seven, eight hundred yards, pretty good blood.
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Uh couldn't find him.
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Came back the next morning, looked all over, couldn't find him.
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Uh, and then on Sunday, uh, we looked all day and crisscrossed and went into thick big woods, but could not find them.
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Uh, first time that's happened to me.
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If you're listening to this, chances are maybe it's happened to you.
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And it's amazing how many people come out of the woodwork, um, you know, friends and family and stuff, and tell you, like, yeah, actually I've got a story a bit like that too.
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And like I said, just uh being a big game hunter, uh, if you do it long enough, it's gonna happen eventually.
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It's unfortunate, but uh we do our best to try to recover the animal and look as hard as we possibly can and make good ethical shots.
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Uh, but sometimes it just doesn't uh doesn't work out, so it sucks.
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But I thought I'd share that because chances are there's a few of you listening that maybe that's happened to as well.
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And we're not alone.
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We are not alone.
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Um so there's that.
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But on a happier note, we're gonna talk to Ryan and the boys.
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It's a lot of fun.
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Oh, and if you were looking to get a hold of us to maybe come on the podcast or suggest somebody for it, or just reach out to me, you can email me, hunts on outfitting at gmail.com, or you can find us on Facebook, Hunts on Outfitting, or find myself on there, Ken Meyer.
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Feel free to reach out.
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Some of you guys have been.
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It's been great talking with you from all over.
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All right, boys, I'm fired up.
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Happy to have you here.
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Ryan Badass Bennett in the house.
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I've heard lots of stuff about you, so I'm excited to uh to have you here.
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So we'll get to you in a sec.
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Then we've got uh regular hoop crew member, Lane Lewis, and Darren.
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This is your second time on Darren Matthews.
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Yes, sir.
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But he shoots Elite.
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Right?
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You shoot Elite.
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I do, yes.
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Yeah, it'd be cool if you shot Matthews.
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What else would I shoot?
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Well, my last name spelled differently.
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Yeah, and then you guys just came back, so this weekend we all are attending the our local uh outdoor boat and sportsman show.
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So I'll be giving two seminars this weekend or attempting to.
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I've never done that before.
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Uh when this podcast comes out, the show will be long over with.
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So hopefully uh it goes well.
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And uh so Ryan, you and Darren were setting up for Archery, New Brunswick.
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Uh uh yeah, Archery New Brunswick and Archery New Brunswick Bow Hunters.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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And Lane, you helped with that a bit, and you're doing your guys' big game club.
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You're gonna be scoring.
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Yep.
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What do you think you'd be scoring most of, Deer?
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I I'm guessing Deer is normally too.
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You know, people are getting a little more bear.
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Any show we've been doing is often uh little like next to no bears being scored.
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Well, what are the uh what's the minimum to get in for a bear first with a bow, then with a rifle?
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For archery, it's 17 inches and open class is 19.
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Okay.
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Yeah, that's not bad.
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I mean, that's a pretty good sized bear, but not uh there's a lot of bears around here, 17 inches heads on them.
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So um Ryan, I'm excited to talk to you.
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There's a lot to talk about.
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Yes, you're very uh well I'll let you tell about yourself because I don't really know much about you, but I know that you're hardcore into uh the bow world.
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Yes, but you guys also have some outfitting and all that.
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Let's you take it away, Ryan.
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Yeah, so um mostly I guess um I mean I'm big in archery, tournament archery, competitive archery.
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I also do guiding for uh I own an outfitting business with my father and another friend.
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Um that's like what most of my time goes to besides just hunting, but uh archery takes a lot of time, so yeah.
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Yeah.
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Uh you want to just sit in a little bit.
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Um you're good.
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Uh so Ryan, so how did you get into archery?
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Because I mean, I've heard before, Darren was talking on here before that when you go to an archery tournament, it's everyone's just kind of competing for second.
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It's called beat.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Well, so how how did you get into that?
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Where's where did the archery come from?
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So I remember growing up, I mean, I remember watching hunting shows growing up, everybody did, and you know, seeing the bow hunters on there, and it looked really cool.
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So uh I remember asking for a bow for Christmas when I was like 13 or 12 or something.
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So no one else ran you did it.
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No, no, my dad didn't grow up.
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It was they're all gun hunters, right?
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For the most part.
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Um, I don't even know anybody, I guess, that was in my family that ever even shot Archery or anything like that.
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So um got a bow for Christmas one year, bear cruiser.
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Uh I dry fired it within a week, and then we went back to uh the Cabela's when we used to have one.
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I ended up getting a different bow that fit me better than one I used to get.
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Did it wreck?
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No, no, I was uh I remember it was boxing day.
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It was boxing day.
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I got it on Christmas and I dry fired it on boxing day.
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So um I was super excited, had this bow, was shooting it a little bit, and then we were up at my uh grandparents' house, and they're like, Oh, look, he got this new bow, so I go set up the target, right?
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And they're all gonna go watch me shoot.
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And then I pull back, and my dad says, Oh, he's got no arrow, and he must just be like just I don't know, just lining her up or something.
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Anyways, I let her go and it just derailed right away.
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And I was like, Oh my god, what happened?
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So we took it in the house.
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Yeah, right.
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Took it into the house, and my dad was able to press it with his hands, and we were able to get the string back on it, and then um I only had that bow for another couple weeks, and then I ended up getting a different bow.
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Oh, really?
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It was a bear cruiser.
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I was growing, I was 12.
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Yeah.
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And thanks, but no thanks for the Christmas present.
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Yeah, so I ended up changing it out for something that fit me a little better.
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It was, I remember it was a Cabela's branded uh Cabela's Instigator.
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It was a single cam.
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Remember, it had gold cams.
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Did they have like Redhead series?
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Uh maybe.
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It was made by that was back when they were separate, I guess.
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It was made by Diamond.
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Cabela's doesn't actually make the bow, it was made by Diamond, rebranded for Cabela's.
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So, anyways, I ran that for a while, and um, you know, I shot it in the garage a little bit and didn't really do much of it, didn't shoot hardly at all.
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And then I remember uh we go to Graham and Anne every year to hunt the Aunt Lulas deer.
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You get a bonus tag if you shoot an Aunt Lulas deer during bow season with a bow.
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Right.
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So we started doing that, and I remember taking my bow there, and honestly, I had never got it tuned.
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I remember setting a pin up, like I had a 20-yard pin, and then I'm trying to set all my pins like the week before I go.
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I'm like putting no effort into it, and I remember going there and I remember being nervous before we went.
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I was like, oh man, I don't feel very confident with this thing, right?
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So we go there and I get a deer in and I played out missed it.
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Oh, wait completely missed it.
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Miss the deer, and I look down at my bow and I'm like, I need to, I'm gonna I need a new bow.
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I need an yeah, I need to take this a little more seriously because I owe it to the animal, like to not make a bad shot.
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Like, who knows where I could have hit that thing?
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It's a good thing I missed it, honestly.
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I could have hit it anywhere.
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So um I decided to look into getting to know my bow a little better and understanding a little better.
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So uh I remember buying a bow from a bow shop and I wanted to get it tuned, and I remember finding this nice little shop in Memrimcook.
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Um JMZ Archery.
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Um big plug there.
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Shout out to March.
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Yeah, Darren's wearing a JMZ hat.
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Um I'd seen that recently.
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Yeah, Darren's head.
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Yeah.
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So uh I didn't know him.
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I set up an appointment.
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I said I like to get my bow tuned, and he didn't know me, but I went into his shop and he was bow was that?
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That was um that was right after COVID, probably 2021.
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2020, 21, I think.
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Yeah, 2021.
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Um, I go and I get it tuned, and he was great.
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Like he was a guy that wasn't just doing it just to make a little money on the side, he just loves art.
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Yeah, big time, yeah.
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Best best guy.
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Like you go in there and you're like, oh, I'm just gonna get my bow tuned, and he's like showing you everything.
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I learned so much from just like an hour there, anyways.
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So don't leave until he's happy.
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No, exactly, right?
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So um I go there, I get my bow tuned, and he starts talking about you know the archery world and stuff, and he he talks about 3D tournaments, and I was like, oh, that sounds sounds fun.
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So, anyways, I joined the Facebook groups.
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I find there's a there's a shoot coming up.
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It was called uh they called it the Hunter Classic.
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And it was a it was a weird shoot.
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You're only allowed bow hunter equipment.
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Oh yeah, and uh it was a for fun shoot.
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There wasn't actually any scoring.
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There was a couple like there was a long-range one or shoot like closest to the middle, and then there was another, I can't remember what the other one was, but you had to pay to I think it was brackets or something, and you shot off for the prize and it was money prize, whatever half of what people put in.
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So I remember going there and I didn't really know what to expect.
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This is like April or something, and I thought we were gonna show up to a field and there's gonna be a whole bunch of targets on the field.
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Anyways, that is not what happened.
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I showed up in sneakers.
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A bunch of balloons to like aim at something.
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Showed up in sneakers.
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Marcel said, first rule of 3D is you do not show up in sneakers.
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It was muddy.
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I got ruined my sneakers that day.
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But, anyways, you kind of like go through the course.
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It's almost like I I imagine it's kind of like golf a little bit, you know what I mean?
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Like a course.
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That's kind of what I'm gonna do.
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I think it'd be more fun than golf.
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Way more fun, way more fun than golf.
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Okay.
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Golf, but I get to shoot something.
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Right?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So, anyways, I had a blast.
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It was the best, best time I ever had.
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And then we had a long shot turn uh shoot.
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We had to shoot, uh, I think they had a 90 yards or 80 yards or something.
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Anyways, closest to the middle, one.
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And you won that?
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I did, yes.
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First time I had a shoot.
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Anyways, I was pretty happy.
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Won a door prize.
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You just you just got into this kind of recently, then.
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Yeah, I thought you've been doing it for a while there.
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Everyone's been talking and stuff.
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No, he's 16.
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You've been what's that?
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He's only 16.
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Oh, yeah.
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Because you for the sales, but you've been dominating, but you just got into this around COVID.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Yeah, it was honestly when I started was probably when the clubs were kind of getting back to going.
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Because it was still there was still a lot of COVID restrictions, I think.
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I can't remember if we were still wearing masks then or not.
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But, anyways, shot at this tournament.
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The next one I went to, Memrum Cook, it was great.
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Had a lot of lot of fun there.
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Uh, went to my first provincials event after that.
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It was fun.
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Uh, I was shooting the hunter class at that point, shot that for a while, and uh kind of just progressed from there, started to win a few tournaments and all of them.
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A few?
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No, I didn't win my first, didn't win my first.
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So um my second one would have been prevent provincials.
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Okay, did win that.
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So you've been doing it a while, but not like a you've been shooting bow for a little while, but you haven't been shooting the you know, competition for long at all.
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Pre-COVID.
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So I probably hadn't shot a bow past 30 yards ever.
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So really, yeah.
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Wow.
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So you you're in you got you're sponsored by Elite, are you?
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Yes, yeah.
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Okay, so how'd that how'd that come about?
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So um I remember going to one of the shoes.
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Darren was there.
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I remember I was scared of him at that time.
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Is it a beard?
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Uh what's that?
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Darren's got a big beard.
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Yes.
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Um you don't know him, it looks kind of freaky.
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You'd be like, what's he hiding in that beard?
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You'd be surprised.
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Um I remember going to, it was a big shoot.
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They didn't have it last year, they're bringing it back, but it was the East Coast Crown.
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Oh, yeah.
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And I remember going there and I was shooting an elite bow.
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I bought an elite bow target bow from Marcel.
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Bought his old Target bow.
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Uh, but I didn't have any elite merch, so I just wore my Hoyt stuff.
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Oh, anyways, I go there and I won the tournament.
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And then Marcel said, I gotta you gotta get an elite shirt.
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So then he offered to put me onto his little shop staff uh deal.
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So I shot for him for about a year.
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Because he he'll fix anything, Willie, but he he specializes in elite.
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Yeah, so he's like uh a main elite dealer, he can get anything.
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Yeah, uh, but that's like his his brand.
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He's sponsored by Elite and he's his he runs a shop.
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He's like an elite dealer, really.
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But he can get anything.
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Yeah, because that was a thing.
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Like when I said I'm a Matthews, he's like, I can get you a Matthews, but I'll be able to cover like if there's an issue, I'll be able to take care of you better with the Matthews.
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I'm not even talking about both right now.
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I'm not Darren, Darren Matthews.
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I'm just introducing myself.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so uh shot for him for a while.
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I remember going to a bunch more provincials, Atlantics, and then um went to nationals in Sydney, indoor nationals, and then um destroyed everybody.
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I guess.
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Not not quite, I wouldn't say that.
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No, no, but we'll say it for you.
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You did a comfortable comfortable.
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I had a comfortable lead going into day two.
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Actually, uh it was we shot two rounds on day one, I think.
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I think and then one more on day two.
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I like was not shooting well, and like there was a guy who was like, it should have been a comfortable lead, and then I shot really bad, and then I shot a five.
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I thought it was a five.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, oh my god, I just lost.
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I just lost first place.
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Anyways, it wasn't a five.
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It was taking count, Ryan's really bad is about above average for sure.
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His bad would be my wow, I did really good today, essentially.
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Yeah.
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So um, and then after nationals, won nationals, and then we went to um, I think that was the same year that they had the ECC tournament where they had the special.
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I think so, and uh Nationals and Fredericton as well.
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Yeah, Nationals Fredericton uh did not win nationals.
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Get out.
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Um and then uh yep, shot well at the ECC.
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I think nationals capped off the season.
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And then after the season, uh through Marcel, I kind of got into contact with some elite guys and um They saw how you were doing.
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Yeah, they they put together bragging bit that's that's why you're here.
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Yeah.
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It's the only reason you're here.
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No, it's kidding.
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You can brag a bit.
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Um, like you're not allowed to brag.
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But um, so got in contact with Elite, you know, worked out a contract and shoot for them a little bit, and you know, it's a partnership.
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I you don't wear your Hoyt clothing anymore.
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I do not.
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I don't think they would appreciate that, probably not.
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But uh what is nice about Elite Um is that I shot it before.
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So it's not like not a big change.
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No, and it's not like I'm picking up a company because they're offering a sponsorship.
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Like I already know before they did, like I like this stuff, like you know, it was dependable stuff, so that really helps a lot with that.
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You don't have to feel like you're I won't say lying, but you know, yeah, you know what I mean.
00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:26.319
But here well, here's a little question about this.
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I don't know if you can answer this, but uh all the modern bows now, yeah, are they pretty similar?
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Yeah, pretty well now.
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Like what would be a huge or a uh not maybe not huge, but a decent size of difference you could tell between you don't gotta say the brands but elite and hoyt and even bear and what's it diamond and all that?
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I mean, what what's a big thing that you notice that would be the difference?
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Technology catches up competitive.
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Yeah, recently they've been coming out with some new technologies.
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I mean, at the point now, per for performance when it comes to a bow, I mean, they're really they've pretty much milked pretty much all that they can.
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Like they can't really make them any smoother and faster, you know what I mean?
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Like it's we say that now, but they probably said that five years ago.
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I guess it's very marginal increase every year.
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In fact, that's not usually what the companies are really chasing right now.
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Um, there's a lot more technology that they're coming through.
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Like over the last few years, uh they've come up with new ways of tuning your bow and timing it and stuff, so you don't need a press.
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Yeah, make it better for the consumer.
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And and and companies kind of catch up, like you know, like uh like I remember BoTech came out with uh it was called the deadlock cam system, they still use it today, and it was it was really cool because you could move your cam without a bow press.
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And Elite came out with their own version of it like pretty well at the same time.
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And uh like everybody's gonna catch up, but they gotta kind of work their way around the patents and stuff.
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So yeah, nowadays, like I don't know much about all of the brands, but like Matthews, Hoyt and Elite and Botech, they all have I think they all have a tuning system that you don't need to press anymore.
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Uh Elite and Botec, and there's probably still a couple more that do this.
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Uh, are the only ones that I know of that allow you to time your bow.
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Like Elite's got a yoke system.
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Um, and they all they all kind of do the same thing, but they work different ways.
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Like Botec, they you move the it's a drive, the the cam moves left and right on uh the elite bows, you're pivoting the uh limb pocket, and that's how you're like changing your lean and you're tuning it so that you don't have to like I mean because you can move your rest a little bit to tune, but that's like not the you know, there's different ways of doing it, I suppose.
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But um makes it really nice on Elite, like you can really fine-tune it, yeah.
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Super, super nitpicky, right?
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Elite's obviously like the best, too.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Um, but yeah, and then I mean some of them too that just start off at better price points for your person getting into it.
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Because remember this one bow company I was looking up, I was like, maybe I'll buy a bow from them.
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We won't say the name, like holy shit, they're pricey.
00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:55.119
Yeah, so a lot of brands will have their own little like other brands.
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Like you mentioned Diamond earlier.
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Yeah, Diamond is owned by Botech.
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Okay, Botech is their flagship, yeah.
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And then they might have like a mid-level bow, and then anything that's entry level will go under Diamond.
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Uh Elite, they they just keep the same name for all of their bows.
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They have entry-level bows, mid-level bows, um, and then flagship bows.
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A shoot obsession.
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My bow's quite old now, but I mean it works, does the trick.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But you don't see a lot of them around.
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Not not so much anymore.
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There was a dealer here, but I don't know if he's still uh around or selling it.
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That's another story.
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But um I know you mean.
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Uh I I like my obsession, but uh they just they don't seem like a real popular bow.
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It's a great bow.
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I like it a lot, but yeah.
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Yeah, I mean there's definitely your big uh big three or four.
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Yeah, right.
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So Ryan, I'm curious.
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Growing up, were you playing sports?
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Were you competitive?
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Yeah, I I grew up playing a little bit of hockey, not like super competitive, but I grew up playing hockey.
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Um 'cause where did this like with the the obsession with the bow and like getting so good in in a short amount of time and stuff?
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I mean, you've got some discipline and drive for it, obviously.
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So just wonder if you're really big into sports.
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Yeah.
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I mean I know for myself, and you can tell me if you're right.
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When I joined, I was better than what I expected.
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Yes.
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And then when you are when you're coming home with a medal, it drives you.
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It makes you want to keep going to more tournaments, which therefore is making you better.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, honestly, if I went if I went to that first tournament and I sailed like half my arrows over the backs, I don't know.
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Maybe I wouldn't have stuck around with that.
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We wouldn't be sitting here right now.
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That's why I haven't been back to one.
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Speaking of sailing arrows.
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I thought you were out cheerleading.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Lane's just trying to keep the arrow companies in business.
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Yeah, that's that's an important job.
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I showed up with three arrows and I left with three arrows.
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Well, they just weren't mine.
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No, they just didn't hit where I wanted to.
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They weren't usable anymore.
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Yeah.
00:22:50.960 --> 00:22:57.200
So uh explain to me the different types of like explain to me the world of competitive archery.
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Yeah.
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So um there's different like types of archery, obviously, and different levels and all that.
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Um I'll go with I'll I'll start with the ones that I know the least amount, I guess.
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Or even just field the less.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I yeah, I mean there's local, but as far as like types of archery, um, there's there's field archery.
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Uh I've actually never shot field yet.
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It's not popular in New Brunswick, and every time they have a tournament, it's too usually it's just hard because it's it's a lot of setup and uh there's just not a lot of crowd that really want to shoot it.
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So I mean I don't blame them for not wanting to set up a target if they're gonna have five people come shoot, right?
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:35.279
So what so field is it's uh if it would be a mix of what 3D and target is.
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So um it might be better off to start with target, I guess.
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Target would be the most simple.
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So target is what everybody thinks of when they think of archery, probably, right?
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Just shooting a target.
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A circle, and you gotta shoot the middle of the circle, right?
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That um that's what I figured it was, yeah.
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Indoor and outdoor.
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So um indoor, we usually shoot, typically we shoot 18 meters, 20 yards.
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Um, and we're shooting a a circle, basically.
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Um if you're compound, you're usually shooting three of them so that you're not hitting your arrows against each other.
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But it's it's really as simple as the rings have different scoring values depending on the tournament you're at.
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It's like darts.
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Yeah, essentially.
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Um, so uh for example, Lancaster scoring is is an easy one.
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The very center circle is worth 11, 10, 9, and so on, and you go from there.
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And you're basically uh indoor archery is basically a game of you cannot miss.
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You cannot afford to miss at the pro level, you cannot miss.
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So um, like last week I was in Vegas and uh there was an indoor archery.
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Shout out.
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Yes.
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Um and Bodie Turner shot 90 X's, and we're talking a two-centimeter circle at 20 yards.
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Really?
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Never missed 90 of them in a row.
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And then you're like step back, all right.
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:50.480
That guy's a little above you.
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That's impressive.
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Wow.
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First one in 60 years to ever do it.
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What's uh what's he what's he shoot?
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At Vegas.
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At Vegas, yes.
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It's been done in other tournaments.
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What's he shoot?
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Uh different brand.
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Yeah, different brand.
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Does he?
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Okay, yeah.
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It's a Matthews.
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It is a Matthews.
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But um, but at the top level though, yeah.
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You'll see.
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I mean, there's lots of different brands up there.
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Like you go look at the podium pictures, yeah.
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There's there's Hoyt up there, there's Matthews up there, there's uh Elite up there, Botec up there, like everybody's represented.
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I was curious.
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I know we're talking, they're they're kind of similar.
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Yeah.
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Um so that's Target.
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Target's pretty simple.
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Um outdoor targets, basically the same thing.
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Bigger target, further away.
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Uh more variables.
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There's wind and weather and all that.
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Um but essentially the same thing.
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You just, you know, as high a score as you can.
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:49.440
Um, some tournaments will have uh match play where you shoot a qualifier, you get ranked, and then you shoot one-on-one against someone, and then you move on from there.
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:52.720
Some tournaments like Vegas, you have to shoot a perfect 900.
00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:53.920
If you don't, you're not in.
00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:58.160
If you are, you guys keep shooting till there's one winner, basically the last one to miss.
00:25:58.400 --> 00:25:58.640
Really?
00:25:58.720 --> 00:25:58.880
Yes.
00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:00.319
So you guys could be there a while.
00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:10.240
Yes, actually, it's been so bad that they had to change the targets this year, and after a certain amount of area uh arrows, they changed the X-ring to make it smaller.
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.400
I think it was seven rounds this year, they changed it.
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:14.960
Yes, this year they didn't make it to the smallest one they had.
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:20.480
But normally, um, like we'll say at Vegas, after round one or two, I think, they go to X scoring.
00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:24.640
So basically how it works is say you got seven guys up there.
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:27.200
Um X counts as ten.
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:29.599
Highest score sets the benchmark.
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.319
So if everybody shot 29s, everybody would move on.
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:33.599
But that's not gonna happen.
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:40.559
So uh basically, if you miss, you get eliminated, and then you keep going and you keep going until you get to one person.
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:48.799
And then this year, because it's been so good, they've been going so long on the rounds that they they made the two centimeter circle, they added a 1.5 and then a one.
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:50.720
And that is a small thing.
00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:55.359
I'd be cranking up the uh the draw weight to like 90, like, all right, let's see what the boys got.
00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:57.279
You know, we'll see how much longer you keep shooting.
00:26:57.440 --> 00:26:58.079
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:58.160 --> 00:27:00.079
So what what are your draw weights?
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:01.039
Is there a minimum?
00:27:01.279 --> 00:27:05.359
Uh there's a maximum in uh world archery, it's 60 pounds.
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:06.240
That's maximum.
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:07.119
Yeah, maximum.
00:27:07.599 --> 00:27:10.480
Uh as far as target archery goes, like draw weight doesn't really help you that much.
00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:11.920
I mean, it's a set set range.
00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:13.359
So uh I shoot 60.
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:14.640
I shoot like 58, 60.
00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:16.640
I don't really want to wear my shoulders out shooting target.
00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:16.960
Right.
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:21.599
Um in uh some other tournaments they have uh speed limits.
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:23.200
You can't go over a certain speed.
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:23.759
Okay.
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:27.039
Um as far as New Brunswick, I think there's no real limit.
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:33.680
I mean, I wouldn't go to a tournament shooting 80 pounds, but uh I mean I guess you could if you wanted to, if you're not shooting world archery.
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:34.640
So there's maximum.
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.519
I was just curious if there's like kind of a is that like sort of the standard though?
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:38.079
It's 60.
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:39.279
A lot of guys can play on that.
00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:41.279
Anything that's world archery is 60.
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:42.960
A lot of the private events don't really care.
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:43.200
Yeah.
00:27:43.759 --> 00:27:48.480
Um like Vegas, I don't think there's I'm sure there's a maximum, but I don't know what it is.
00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:49.839
It's not hot, nobody's at it.
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:50.000
No.
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:50.880
Yeah.
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:53.680
Um, yeah.
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:57.920
And then there's different rules on arrow sizes depending on where you go as well.
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:00.799
But uh, but for the most part, that's that's pretty much target.
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:01.759
Target's pretty simple.
00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:02.319
Yep.
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:06.559
Um 3D is I'm sure all of our favorites here, right?
00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:08.480
Um 3D is a lot of fun.
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:10.720
It's it would be lanes if you could hit it.
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:15.599
Uh basically we're shooting foam animal targets with rings on them.
00:28:15.759 --> 00:28:21.359
And depending on where the ring is or and how small it gets, the the scores get higher and and so on.
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:24.400
Um it's different kinds of scoring, I suppose.
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:42.880
Um a typical 3D target, like tournament, I guess, like an outdoor one, you'd shoot uh around a 20, any different targets, have a break, and then depending on if it's a bigger shoot or not, you might shoot at another 20 of the same ones or two, it depends on where you go.
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:47.680
Um, and in that there's different classes, which for compound.
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.640
Um so we all shoot known classes, I believe.
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:53.519
If you shoot known.
00:28:53.680 --> 00:28:58.000
Yeah, uh, so let's because some you can take a rangefinder to some you can't, right?
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.359
Traditionally, uh, may not be known.
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:02.559
Like it used to all be unknown.
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:02.960
Yeah.
00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:04.720
In the states, there's still a lot of unknown.
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:06.480
And out west, I believe there's still a lot of unknown.
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.680
New Brunswick's pretty much all known except for like the old guys.
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:10.559
Yeah.
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:12.319
So known known to rangefinder.
00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:21.759
So there's there's two main known core uh classes besides like I think all of the under 21 classes are now known, which they never used to be, but I think they are now.
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:25.599
Uh the two big classes for known would be K50 and Hunter.
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.680
K50 basically means known 50.
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:35.279
So known 50 yards, no limits on just uh equipment as far as like on stuff that you're actually not allowed for anywhere.
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:41.599
I guess like a you're not allowed to have an automatic release or some weird stuff, but basically no limits, anything that's readily available.
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:42.079
Yeah.
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.920
Um, and then the hunter class, which you guys shoot, I believe still.
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:49.680
Um, it's max 40 yards and outdoor.
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:50.319
Outdoor.
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:53.359
Indoor is different because they can't move the stake.
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.440
So like outdoor, we shoot at a stake.
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:55.839
Yeah.
00:29:56.000 --> 00:30:03.039
Uh so I would shoot typically uh ours would be the red stake, but changes in New Brunswick, it's the red stake, and that's max 50.
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:05.359
And then if you're shooting Hunter, you'd go up to the green stake.
00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.759
It might be 10 yards closer, might be five, it changes.
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:08.160
Okay.
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:11.200
Um, so they can do that, but indoor, there's like one shooting line.
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:16.160
Like you can't have people standing in front of the line, it's people behind the line, so it's max fifty for for them.
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:23.359
Um uh anyways, so max 40 outdoors, and they're not allowed um a lens.
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:27.119
Not allowed stabilizers over 12 inches.
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:28.559
I don't know if they've changed that.
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:31.039
Uh they keep talking about it, but I don't think it's official.
00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.599
Some places change have changed it to a little bit longer.
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:35.599
Uh for a long time you weren't allowed a back bar.
00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:36.640
That changed recently.
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:40.480
Uh, and you had to have screw and arrow tips, that's no longer a thing.
00:30:40.720 --> 00:30:45.200
Um but uh basically you're not allowed the long stabilizers and you're not allowed a lens.
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:46.480
And it makes a big difference.
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:54.079
What the lens is the you have it's basically like essentially like it's a magnification glass in your site.
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:54.480
Yeah.
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:55.279
People have that.
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:57.759
I have not been told about it.
00:30:57.920 --> 00:30:58.960
Um people don't really.
00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:10.480
No, typically, I mean it's not good to hunt with, like, because it's not like a rifle scope where they got all those different coded pieces of glass where like like my loophole scope, if I get w rain on the end of it, I can still see through it.
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:13.839
You've got you've got a loophole scope, what, on your rifle?
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:16.160
On my right, okay, but on your bow?
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:17.119
Not on my bow.
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.240
My bow has a C V E scope and uh sight.
00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:25.279
But the piece of glass is in there, the piece of glass is in there, it's just a single piece of glass.
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:28.799
So like if you get rain or dirt on that, it's you're not gonna be able to see that through your body.
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:29.519
You'll see it tomorrow.
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:30.319
He's got it at the show.
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:31.680
Yeah, yeah, you can see it tomorrow.
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:35.440
Then typically I've never heard of that.
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:41.279
A scope or a lens in your scope, you need to have a clarifier in your peep.
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:43.200
So a little tiny piece of glass in your peep.
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:44.880
And that's that gets water on it.
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:46.400
So that's the killer there.
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:46.559
Yeah.
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:48.240
If you get water in that, it sucks.
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:48.720
Really?
00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:48.960
Yeah.
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:51.039
So I have people with little like blowers or something.
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:54.480
So if you're looking to sabotage somebody, just like sneeze on it accidentally.
00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:55.759
What's good like that?
00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:59.680
In Hunter, you are allowed glass in the back.
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.200
I was wondering that because dad had trouble shooting with his glasses.
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:03.519
Okay.
00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:06.720
He just put a clarifier in his peep and he said it made a world of difference shooting.
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:07.200
Yeah, yeah.
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:07.920
Night and day.
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:08.240
Yeah.
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.519
So you're allowed a clarifier, a verifier, whatever you want in the back.
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:13.200
You're not allowed any magnification.
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.599
Any I don't even think you're allowed any glass in the front.
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.240
I don't think it matters if it's magnification or not.
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:23.440
But because I remember a guy, he had no nothing, but he just had like a reticle, and that's why he liked it.
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:24.079
Oh, really?
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:25.279
But they wouldn't let him have it.
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:30.960
So and then the stabilizers are those great big old sword-looking things that you guys have in the non-hunter.
00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:35.519
Yeah, so you'll see in their class they're only allowed 12 inches, so they're just you know what you see on a normal hunting bow.
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.319
Mine, I run a 30-inch on the front and a 15 on the back.
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:40.640
Holy target a lot.
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:42.240
Yeah, I run a lot of weight on them too.
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:43.599
Like, you know what I'm hunt with my bow.
00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:44.079
It would suck.
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:45.519
I would get terror woods.
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.240
It would it would suck.
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:48.160
Be all set up for a sword fight after the event.
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:48.799
Yeah, it would.
00:32:48.960 --> 00:32:50.880
Lee, he's got a big spike on the end of his.
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:55.680
I figure he's got that to jab somebody when they give a an arrow call to the big thing.
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:57.279
Given the old shock putt.
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:02.240
Um, because I know you see that, and these guys have like a freaking ruler on the end of it there.
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:03.039
Like, holy.
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:05.359
Yeah, no, it it could be pretty crazy.
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:16.480
I've seen there's a guy, uh, Tim Gilling and he runs like it looks like a they call it his cane because he's he's got like two on each side and two out the back, and they're both like super long.
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:17.200
Like, it's crazy.
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:19.279
Does it help that much?
00:33:19.599 --> 00:33:27.359
Yeah, I mean, think of it as like what basically what it's doing is if you imagine like a tightrope walker and they got that long pole that's stabilizing you, that's basically what it is.
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.440
So, I mean, if you can handle it, um, yeah, it would keep you steady, right?
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.640
That's the thing though, like you put weight out that far.
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:40.400
Like the first time I shot a stabilizer, I really or a really long one, I really didn't like it because it was really weird.
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:44.400
It was really oddly heavy, and you had to really get used to it.
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:49.599
Like and like the whip almost after you let the arrow go, yeah, is what it's different.
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:50.480
It's different.
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.559
I use I had problems you well, it's just a vibration coming out of it, right?
00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:04.640
Um even getting back to full draw, like if you hit that back wall too hard, like your your stabilizer shakes around and it will get really stable, but it takes a minute, right?
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:05.680
Well, yeah, yeah.
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:10.159
But um, it does help a lot, like it'll stabilize your setup a lot.
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.039
So that's in the hunter class, though, it's 12 inches.
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:16.880
12 inches, not allowed that, which is your standard stabilizer.
00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:17.679
Yeah, yeah.
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.480
It's a little shorter than a lot of people have, honestly, nowadays.
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.119
People are running longer stabilizers on their hunting setups now.
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:28.320
Because I get on mine's 10, but I get the quick tatch on it, so it's actually rate at 12.
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:29.920
Yeah, you what's my quick tatch on it?
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:35.519
Yeah, if you have a if you have a quick disconnect, you or any weights at all, you can't run an actual 12-inch stabilizer.
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:36.880
You have to buy a 10 or an 11 or whatever.
00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:42.079
Yeah, but um, so 3D, that's in New Brunswick.
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:43.199
That's our main two classes.
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.000
Uh, there is judging classes, which is fun.
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.599
Um, but in New Brunswick, it's really a dying class.
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:51.679
There's nobody that shoots unknown, honestly.
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.599
Besides the old guys, they still do.
00:34:54.400 --> 00:35:05.039
Which I guess even this year was talked about, like they were kind of getting opinions from those specific guys and asking them if they would want to use a rangefinder.
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:06.880
And uh I I think they said no majority.
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.039
Yeah, so basically everyone wants to use a rangefinder.
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:10.960
Yeah, uh yeah.
00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:14.559
Um, in the States is still big that they non-rangefinder.
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:15.119
Yeah, unknown.
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:15.840
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:17.440
It's adding a whole new skill to it.
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:17.679
Yeah.
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:19.519
Oh, yeah, it is a completely different skill.
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.239
So the old guys are pretty good at guessing yards.
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:22.639
Yeah.
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:22.960
Yeah.
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:33.280
I mean, honestly, as far as unknown archer goes, you have to be equally as good at shooting as you have to be at because you you go up to a target and you make a perfect shot and you guessed it two yards uh shy.
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.599
Man, you're not you're not catching the ring that you were open.
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:37.760
So it's a big difference.
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:38.239
Yeah.
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:40.639
Um I suck at judging, so I shoot known.
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:44.320
So yeah, so then what do you so that's uh that's a hunter division.
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:45.599
So then what do you shoot at?
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.280
I shoot in the known fifty division.
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:47.519
Okay.
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.079
So that's like the that's like the open division, I guess.
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.119
The biggest division.
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.599
That's the one that the people are usually in the longest go in.
00:35:53.920 --> 00:36:02.639
Um I mean, people stay in Hunter forever, but um if you want to progress, yeah, if you want to progress, you've got to shoot in the archery, you need to be that's where you should be, right?
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:06.800
Yeah, so is there still Hunter class in like Lancaster and Vegas?
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:08.159
There is, there is.
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:16.320
Um Lancaster last year, there was a I shot the Hunter uh division in the Target Target uh tournament in Lancaster.
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.480
Um came eighth, I believe, out of I think there's 160 people there.
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:21.039
Wow.
00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:27.199
Um didn't shoot very good in qualifiers or yeah, in qualification, but I shot well in the matches and kind of made up for it.
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.440
But um yeah, it's and it's getting bigger, honestly.
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:33.360
It's getting bigger here, it's getting bigger there.
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:40.000
People uh it's it's a good class for people to not feel intimidated, we'll say.
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:53.679
Like you show up to a shoot, like with your hunting bow, and you see see me show up with my 38-inch bow with 30 inch stabilizers, and I got a magnifying glass, and I got a light on there, and I got all this your elite jersey on, and you're like I'm going home.
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:54.880
You're like, yeah, I don't know.
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:55.920
Very intimidating.
00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:01.360
So uh the hunter class is nice where it is a lot more inviting, we'll say.
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:02.639
Still intimidating.
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.320
Still intimidating, yeah, but uh more inviting for sure.
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.719
Um and then it's known, so well your hunter class is for your average Joes, right?
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:10.960
Yeah.
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:11.519
Kind of thing.
00:37:11.679 --> 00:37:12.320
Yeah, yeah.
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:13.679
Your weekend warriors.
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:14.480
Yes, yeah.
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:15.679
That's a good way to put it.
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.599
A lot of people start out at Hunter and they kind of like progress through it, I guess.
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:31.519
Um but uh and and it's also known, so like a lot of guys probably who don't ever judge um don't really want to show up to a shoot judging and like miss a bunch of targets and lose a bunch of arrows.
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:33.199
I mean, we know arrows are expensive, right?
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:39.440
Yeah, so that's the other thing, I guess, is known is more inviting for people who are just starting as well.
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:47.119
Yeah, but um and when you're just starting, like typically if you're in a K-50 class, you have a hunting bow as well.
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.920
Yes, and yeah, typically people have two.
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:51.440
Oh sometimes.
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.800
Um people have two in the hunter division too, though.
00:37:54.960 --> 00:38:03.760
But um yeah, typically it's it's guys that are been at it longer, a little more serious, we'll say, than than the Hunter Division.
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:07.119
But uh but the the competition in the Hunter Division can be fierce.
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:07.760
Oh yeah.
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:08.400
Oh for sure.
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:08.880
Oh yeah.
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.360
I mean I've seen Hunter scores come out that beat the K50 scores.
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:19.920
So or even something I've noticed is that with age, people will move to K50 because their eyesights are going getting worse.
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:24.719
So they want that magnification just to help themselves see what they're voting.
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:32.000
It's quite different going from no net none to like a two or three power even, like I shoot a six, it's quite a difference.
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.000
Like I don't know how it's gonna be.
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.559
No, this oh it's high tech.
00:38:38.719 --> 00:38:41.039
It's yeah, there's a lot of money in these bows, I'll tell you that much.
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:42.960
I believe you.
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.679
Yeah, so how how often do you practice?
00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:50.400
Because uh to get to the skill level that you're at right now, I mean, how often are you shooting, Ryan?
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:51.280
Uh lately.
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:52.639
I'm just really good.
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.119
No, lately I've not been shooting very much.
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:03.280
Um I have a shoulder injury at the moment that I'm still working on, um and I can't put a lot of reps in right now without hurting it.
00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:11.199
It's actually worse uh the longer I shoot, but it's working on I'm going on to physio and stuff to help.
00:39:11.280 --> 00:39:13.519
But uh But you got it from shooting?
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:14.159
I don't know.
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:18.159
I think I've had it for a while and it's just kind of it's a weird, it's it's in my wrist.
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:25.679
Um I think I developed it uh from hockey, and I think archery has just become more just irritated, I guess.
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:27.119
I don't know, it's it's weird.
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:34.320
Um but if I shoot too much, my wrist goes practically numb and my shoulder hurts a lot.
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:35.599
And uh that's a pain.
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:36.400
Yeah, it is a pain.
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.000
I just kind of just suffer and just shoot anyway.
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:39.599
But does the ibuprofen?
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:42.159
Yeah, uh, I'm sure that's not what you're supposed to do.
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:44.000
So recently, that's kind of what I was doing.
00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:45.440
I was just kind of just shooting.
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.280
I was like, oh, I can't have a shoulder injury.
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:55.760
So uh recently I've been slowing down a lot and trying to like figure out like okay, I should probably fix this before it gets irreversible.
00:39:55.920 --> 00:40:02.880
Uh if so, but um last year uh when I was training a lot, um I would shoot every night probably.
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:05.039
Um how many arrows do you think?
00:40:05.199 --> 00:40:07.199
Oh, some nights I would shoot.
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:11.199
Um I went through two sets of strings in a month once.
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:13.039
So which is wild.
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:14.320
Yeah, I was shooting a lot of things.
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:17.039
No, I wasn't.
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:19.840
I knock on wood, I have not dry fired since that one time.
00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:21.199
I believe you do it right now.
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:22.159
Knock on wood.
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:28.000
But um uh yeah, I was probably shooting, geez, I don't know.
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.480
I mean rough estimate.
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:31.679
I wouldn't have a clue.
00:40:32.239 --> 00:40:33.920
I can tell you how long I was shooting.
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:39.840
I was shooting from about five or six o'clock, and then sometimes I would go home at midnight.
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.400
Um I mean you're a couple hundred plus.
00:40:42.719 --> 00:40:43.280
Yeah, probably.
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:46.000
Yeah, when I was really practicing.
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:48.880
Oh, it's maybe it's from hockey.
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:49.760
I think I know what it's from.
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:50.639
Well, yeah.
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:52.400
I who knows.
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.280
But um shooting a few hundred at night, yeah.
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.599
Yeah, but that's just like it's right before a tournament kind of deal, right?
00:40:59.679 --> 00:41:03.280
Like throughout the year, like uh the time of year I shoot the least is hunting season.
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:04.960
I don't shoot at all during hunting season.
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:06.320
We're busy, busy hunting.
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.880
I'm actually I got my bow more than ever, I just never shoot it.
00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:15.039
But yeah, winter, you know, if not a whole lot going on, then I'll I'll shoot a lot.
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:18.880
But uh depends kind of just depends on what's coming up, if there's tournaments coming up or not.
00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:25.519
But um, you know, uh if you want to be competitive at the highest level, I mean you gotta shoot a lot.
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:29.760
But um, you know, a couple times a week would definitely do you some good, at least.
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:30.880
Um try to shoot everything.
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:41.360
And then so I I've heard, and it might have came from someone in this room, but that at tournaments you can kind of come off as a bit of a dick, but that's because that you're so laser focused.
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:44.480
Oh, that could be that could be it was me.
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:45.280
Oh, I didn't say that.
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:45.840
It was me.
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:48.800
It wasn't I I I believe you.
00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:53.199
But but uh what's your mindset when you do get to these tournaments?
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:54.800
You you're just laser focused.
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:56.400
And what do you what are you picturing?
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:57.119
What are you visualizing?
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:00.880
You wish you visualizing you winning or I am honestly.
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:02.639
Uh I mean it depends on the tournament.
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.119
I have different expectations for different tournaments.
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:08.639
Um whenever I went wreckston, I'm like, I gotta shoot a perfect score.
00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:09.760
I gotta shoot a perfect score.
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:11.679
That's it's where I saw you.
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.639
Yes, yeah, I was Rexton, and I did not shoot a perfect score.
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.719
And we were because we shot the round before you, and then we were kind of talking.
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:22.159
I'm like, told Darren during the break, like, oh, he was kind of a dick.
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:22.800
Like, really?
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:26.480
He didn't really want to talk to me, and he was short with me.
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:28.880
And Darren's like, no, he was just in the zone.
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.519
He doesn't want to distract you and he wants to shoot.
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.400
Right before I will uh I will be to people.
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:45.039
And then after I shoot a good round, I'm super chatty, and I'm like, great, but um yeah, if I shoot a bad round, I'm going home.
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.639
You're we're shooting the shit for like 45 minutes after.
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:54.559
I'm like, okay, he was definitely just in the zone.
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:56.320
Yeah, no, I get in the zone sometimes.
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:57.840
Oh, that's that's okay, that's good, yeah.
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:07.760
It depends on the tournament, but um Right, because like mental game, there's a difference between what you shoot here and when you go to Vegas and when you go to Lancaster.
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:08.239
Yeah.
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:10.480
Yeah, well let's talk about a bit of your traveling.
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:11.760
So you were in Paris?
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.239
No, I was in uh Nimes, which is in France, but like the opposite side of France.
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:17.280
Let's just call it Paris.
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:18.800
Okay, I was in Paris.
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:22.400
Uh I'm not studying up my geography, but you were in France.
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:22.719
Yes.
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:24.159
So how did that come about?
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:27.840
Um, I was just kind of looking at like tournaments that were kind of doable.
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:28.159
Yeah.
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:39.679
And um it was uh it was honestly not like as far as like flights and stuff goes, it wasn't a terrible like it was a it was a doable tournament, I guess.
00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:41.599
It was just kind of something different.
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:42.480
I wanted to go.
00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:43.920
Oh, yeah, be different.
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:44.480
Yeah.
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:44.960
Yeah.
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.320
Um I wanted to go and kind of see that part of the world anyway.
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:50.960
So I was like, you know what, I could do it and shoot at the same time.
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:51.679
Like, you know.
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:53.039
Um I didn't really go there.
00:43:53.679 --> 00:43:54.320
What did you see?
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:55.440
Oh, tell me.
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:57.840
Tell me about France, but I've never been there.
00:43:57.920 --> 00:43:58.400
I didn't know.
00:43:58.719 --> 00:43:59.760
It was uh it was different.
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.960
It was uh we started out in southern France in Nimes and a lot of like Roman stuff, Coliseums and all that.
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:05.519
It was cool.
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:09.760
And then um we drove, I went there with my mom.
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:10.000
Yeah.
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.320
Um Was everyone drunk there off wine?
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.039
No, there wasn't.
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:20.000
Um everyone's like got like a slightly real good buzz off wine all day.
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:21.360
That's that's what I think of.
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:25.360
But yeah, I there was definitely lots of wine places there, but uh croissants.
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:27.039
Yeah, it was cool.
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:32.000
Um, like southern France was a little bit more mild and like almost subtropical.
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:40.159
And then uh what I was more interested in is once we were done the tournament in Nimes, um, I wanted to go up into the Alps and uh went and saw the mountains up there.
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:40.719
That's cool.
00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:43.199
Went off trail, found some deer sign up there.
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:43.840
Oh, yeah.
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:45.679
Couldn't help myself, I guess.
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.280
Uh where's my bow?
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:49.360
Yeah, my first international church.
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.079
Yeah, he was looking at tracks, red deer tracks there.
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:52.880
I was like, oh, that's it.
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:53.760
Wouldn't it be cool to shoot?
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:59.440
And then I'm like sitting at a restaurant in in the Alps and I'm like, wonder what they can hunt.
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:01.039
I wonder how much guided hunts are.
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:02.239
I wonder when they do them.
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:04.079
But um, no, it was kind of cool.
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:05.199
Is there much hunting in France?
00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:06.239
There was a little bit there.
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:08.079
What's that?
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:10.719
I said, is there mus much hunting in France?
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:12.159
And can you use bow there?
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:14.320
Because some European places you can't.
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:15.679
France you can, okay.
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.880
Because I know like bow hunting uh road deer is a big thing over there.
00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:19.599
Yeah, if you can.
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:19.920
Okay.
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.559
Because I know some European uh countries you can't.
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:22.800
Yeah.
00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:23.599
France you can.
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:23.840
All right.
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.519
Where we were specifically, uh, there was a lot of uh chamois hunting.
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:29.679
Oh, um, and then red deer.
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.840
Uh I don't think they had a lot of road deer right there.
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.599
Was uh not a whole lot of farm area, which I think is where they usually want the road deer.
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:39.199
But um I mean, I'd love to go for a red deer hunting.
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:40.239
Oh, yeah, that'd be cool.
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.840
What was like the culture like and stuff compared to Canada?
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:46.159
Um a lot more French.
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:47.280
Yes, yes.
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:48.639
It was very French.
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:53.039
Um it was completely different, honestly, from the Alps to southern France.
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:56.400
The Alps almost kind of reminded me of like Western Canada, like ski town.
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:57.840
It was it was all ski villages, right?
00:45:58.000 --> 00:45:59.119
It was all skiing there, right?
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:00.960
Uh really cool little places.
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:04.480
Um, the food was different, um, a lot heavier.
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:06.400
Uh a lot of pastries.
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.000
Yeah, a lot of pastries, and uh I remember I had a burger there.
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:11.440
It was honestly the best burger I've ever had.
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:13.519
Did you have a real croissant?
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:14.000
I did.
00:46:14.239 --> 00:46:16.239
I had a real all the breakfast is there or not?
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:18.400
Probably not like the stuff that you in the superstore.
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:20.480
No, everything's so fresh there.
00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:26.800
Um pastries and stuff and cheese, very well known for the cheeses, right?
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:30.800
But I had a burger there, it was uh I think it was fallow deer or roe deer.
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:35.760
And they put liver on the burger and they put a big piece of liver on the burger, it was super rich.
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.239
I'm a big fan of liver, I thought that was the best thing ever.
00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:46.400
But um very the food was very, yeah, very heavy and uh but um it was good, it was very good.
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:48.960
Um probably healthy, like is there a lot of father?
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:53.199
I don't think there's a lot of there's a lot of fat, but not a lot of like processed stuff, I don't think.
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:56.159
No, but if there's a lot of fat people in France, no, okay.
00:46:56.239 --> 00:46:56.639
See you.
00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:58.320
I was keeping count, honestly.
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:10.159
I was I at the end of the trip, I said to somebody said four fat the only person I saw that was like really fat was in the airport, and I think she was American, so yeah, that that tracks.
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.079
But uh no, actually kind of shocking.
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:13.199
Like they're all they're not.
00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:14.320
Yeah, well, that's what I thought.
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:16.079
Which is they're pretty healthy there, yeah.
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:24.880
But like the food was really like fatty, honestly, like very fatty, like but uh just an active bunch, and they don't I don't think they eat as much of it, maybe, or I don't know.
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:26.400
Not as much processed sugars, I don't think.
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:27.199
I think that's a big one.
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:31.679
So I think a lot of the European countries they're they're pretty healthy for the most part.
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.000
I even I even got a bag of Skittles there, and uh everyone's like judging you probably.
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:40.559
Oh um the sour Skittles.
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:49.679
I don't know if you've ever had the sour Skittles, but basically like the ones Skittles the ones we have here, it's basically a Skittle, like covered in like just doused and sour uh sugar.
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.400
Anyways, their sour Skittles were completely different kind of Skittle.
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.400
They were way less sour, way less sugar in them.
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:56.159
Like they have like I think they have like different regulations.
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:57.840
Doast and liver, yeah, they probably do.
00:47:58.239 --> 00:47:59.039
Doasted liver.
00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:02.000
I brought back some uh foie gois, actually.
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:03.199
What'd you call them?
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:04.159
Foie gois.
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:04.559
What is that?
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:06.480
That is uh I think he called us a name.
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:11.760
Uh that is fattened uh goose or duck liver, like like super fatty liver.
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:12.880
Like it's almost pure fat.
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:13.760
That's it if you need it.
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:14.320
You can keep it.
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:14.800
Yeah, it was.
00:48:15.039 --> 00:48:15.679
What do you use it for?
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:16.159
Just eat it?
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:16.719
Yeah, you eat it.
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:18.079
Uh bath soap.
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.199
It was uh one of the best things I've ever eaten, honestly.
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:22.400
But it was really good.
00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:29.360
Anyways, I bought a can of it though, and I didn't realize it was like the I had some in a restaurant which was fresh, and they grilled it, and it was like super good.
00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:34.000
And then I had some in a can later, and I didn't realize it was a pate and you're supposed to eat it cold.
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:36.639
And honestly, it kind of tastes like uh what I imagine cat food tasted like.
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:37.519
It was not nearly as good.
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:38.480
I did not eat the whole can.
00:48:38.719 --> 00:48:39.360
I wasn't eating it.
00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:40.079
It was expensive.
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:51.760
I was like, oh, this wasn't really worth it, but but uh no, France was cool, it was it was a great place to go experience uh some archery and are all the same big hitters going to France, or is there different?
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:52.320
There's less.
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:54.159
Are the French good at shooting?
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.199
Yeah, archery.
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:55.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:59.599
There's a lot of European um shooters that are really good.
00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:01.199
So not the same people in the Vegas.
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:04.639
No, honestly, there's there's not a whole lot that go over there.
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:08.559
Um but yeah, a lot of your big guys would go.
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:12.480
Um, like Kyle Douglas and Curtis Broadnacks, big guys there.
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:13.519
They they went.
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:23.119
Um Body Turner didn't, but um he's still I think he's still in high school, honestly, or just where's he from?
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:24.880
He is from Washington, I think.
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:25.840
I thought it was Colorado.
00:49:26.079 --> 00:49:26.880
And then who's that kid?
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:30.079
There's a kid in Canada that's like an incredible shooter.
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:30.480
Ryan.
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:31.440
Yeah, Ryan Bat.
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:32.239
No, yeah, yeah.
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.239
He's sitting right across from me, dumbass.
00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.760
Um uh yeah I can't remember his name.
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:42.079
He was on Ryan Kohler had him on something to do with wild TV, and he's like this guy.
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:43.280
Austin Taylor?
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:44.960
Maybe he was shooting in Vegas too.
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:46.719
Yeah, Austin Taylor would shoot Vegas.
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:47.679
Uh might have been him.
00:49:47.840 --> 00:49:48.639
There's a couple names.
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.599
Um, like I don't know, he's 16 or something.
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:55.440
Oh, I I might have heard of him, but I I I don't know.
00:49:55.760 --> 00:49:56.880
Not good enough for me to hear all of it.
00:49:57.199 --> 00:49:59.280
No, no, I think I heard about his name recently.
00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:04.400
Um I don't really keep up with a whole lot of the Western Canadian target shooters, to be honest.
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:06.639
But yeah, he was in Vegas, I know that, but I can't.
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:09.920
If he's younger, he probably would have been in uh probably.
00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:12.639
Yeah, there's different young adult, I think.
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:14.239
Young adult 17 and under.
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:15.519
Yeah, I don't know what the cut up is.
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:17.360
Yeah.
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.719
So um Well, let's get into Vegas a bit.
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:21.679
Well, I've heard Vegas.
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.480
I've never been there.
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:23.360
I know some people that have.
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:25.039
Uh they say it smells like piss.
00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:26.400
That's good.
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:27.119
Does it?
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:30.800
Yeah, I mean, it's uh it's a different kind of place.
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:31.519
I'll tell you that was.
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.440
No, yeah, it was uh it's different.
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:45.360
Um the the the strip like the streets are are it's interesting.
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:47.760
Like if you want to people watch, that's the place to go.
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:50.239
Uh I saw some very interesting people there.
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:54.239
Um did you shoot it any or no, no, I didn't.
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:54.639
No.
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.119
I try to avoid them though, to be honest a little bit.
00:50:57.760 --> 00:50:58.960
Yeah, yeah.
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:02.079
Um but it no, it's cool though.
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:03.280
It's it's a cool place to go.
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:05.679
You recommend Sin City, old Vegas.
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:07.119
Yeah, I mean it depends on what you like.
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.719
Uh would I ever go there for anything other than Archery?
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:15.440
No, I would not, but I'm not really into the Vegas kind of lifestyle.
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.679
So but it's nothing to hunt there, right?
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:19.199
No, I did go fishing though.
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:19.679
Yeah, yeah.
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:21.760
Oh, yeah, so yeah, that'd be cool.
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.800
Yeah, um state surrounded, there's lots of hunting.
00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:25.679
I mean, there's hunting in the Vod.
00:51:26.800 --> 00:51:28.480
Um it's a cool place.
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.920
Um yeah, it's just a big city, a lot of shows.
00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.519
If you're into shows, it's a great place.
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:37.119
It's a good spot to have an archery event like that because there's so much to do, like, when you're not there.
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:39.280
Like you don't like the city never sleeps.
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:43.119
Yeah, like there's there's just endless amounts of things you can do there, right?
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.119
Um, and the the setup's really nice.
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:50.960
Like the the tournament's held right inside of the main three uh three big hotels on the strip.
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:54.320
And there's like like you couldn't you don't even have to leave the hotels.
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:55.280
There's just so much stuff.
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.320
There's like malls, and it's it's a it's a cool spot for sure.
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:00.639
Um great place to have the tournament.
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:04.559
Um well, how'd you get set up going there to shoot?
00:52:05.039 --> 00:52:05.679
Get set up.
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:07.360
Yeah, uh how'd that come about?
00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:10.400
Um, I mean it's the biggest tournament, so that's the one that people want to go.
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:11.440
I did go last year.
00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:14.559
Uh last year's my first year, and I figured I'd go again to this year.
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:17.679
Um going to these international tournaments.
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.639
I mean, um like you can go there with whatever expectations you want.
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:32.960
Like um, but uh it's it's really good for someone who comes from a place like we do where you know we don't have a lot of huge shoots, like there's not a lot here, really.
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:36.320
Like um, it's just it's a different atmosphere.
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:39.280
You have to qualify so much to you don't get to bed.
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:41.360
No, you just gotta pay your registration fee and you can go.
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:43.519
I mean you can shoot whatever class you want as long as you pay the fee.
00:52:43.760 --> 00:52:45.760
The guys pretty good though that are there.
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:46.320
Uh yeah.
00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:46.719
Yeah.
00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:48.239
So the best.
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.199
That is the that is they call it the super bowl of arts.
00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:52.480
You might call it the elite.
00:52:52.639 --> 00:52:52.960
Yes.
00:52:53.119 --> 00:53:00.559
Um, so when I hit if I was shooting Vegas, my idea of it would be like when I hit the target, like slot machines would open, rippers would come out.
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:01.599
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:03.679
Like the whole Vegas feel.
00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:04.159
Yeah.
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.360
A white tiger like rides to get your arrows.
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.360
There's some showmanship there for sure.
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:11.599
Uh I don't think they can have the strippers.
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:14.880
There's a lot of kids there, so um, I don't think they would get away with that.
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:16.639
They're in Vegas, they're good kids and stuff.
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:17.440
It is different.
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:21.840
Like, I I mean, just walking around the strip, I mean like Yeah, what do you see?
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:22.159
Tell us.
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:23.760
Oh man, it's just us here.
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:27.039
You want to hear a funny, you want to hear a funny, a funny uh okay.
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:27.920
So don't say it.
00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:34.320
I'm walking down uh the strip and I it's like nine o'clock in the morning, and there's there's uh everyone's drunk.
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:35.760
Yes, pretty much.
00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:41.679
So um there's uh we'll call them street performers, we'll say, okay.
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:42.800
So there's like, for example.
00:53:43.679 --> 00:53:44.480
No, not prostitutes.
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:46.639
Not prostitutes too early in the morning for that.
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:47.360
What were they wearing?
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:48.000
That's after dark.
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:51.679
Well, I mean, well, I'll bet you if you paid them enough, maybe.
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:58.239
But um so I remember uh Buskers, they call them buskers, isn't that like the property that makes sense?
00:53:58.400 --> 00:53:59.199
Is that I think so.
00:53:59.440 --> 00:53:59.840
I don't know.
00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:00.559
What call is that?
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:01.199
We'll call them that.
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:02.000
Yeah, buskers.
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:03.199
I think it is, yeah.
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:04.480
They're street performers, yeah.
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:04.719
Yeah.
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:11.360
So um they're like, for example, there's uh two groups of girls that go, uh groups of two, and they're dressed up the same.
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:15.440
I think they have a big like feather tail or something on the right behind.
00:54:15.519 --> 00:54:15.840
I don't know.
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:21.280
They're all dressed up, and what they're doing is they're trying to go up to people and they're like, come take a picture with me, and then they expect a tip, right?
00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.199
Or some money for taking a picture with you.
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:25.840
Like I saw Mario and Luigi on the strip doing the same thing, right?
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.159
Anyways, there's the Mario and Luigi.
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:31.519
Yeah, the Mario and Luigi and Yoshi was there too, I believe.
00:54:31.599 --> 00:54:38.719
Um, and then I went back the next day and only Mario was there, so I don't know what happened to the other two, but they uh they didn't fare so well.
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:42.800
So uh then the second day, or no, I think it was the first morning, was there?
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:43.360
Second morning.
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:47.199
I'm going out there as nine o'clock in the morning, and there's a street performer there.
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:49.280
And um What was her name?
00:54:49.440 --> 00:54:49.840
I don't know.
00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:51.280
I didn't want to get anywhere near her.
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:51.920
Correct.
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.920
Uh so she's dressed up as a a cowgirl.
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:56.559
That's cool.
00:54:56.800 --> 00:55:03.760
Not a whole lot of dressing up, to be honest, a lot of dressing down, but uh she was wearing she was not wearing very much, okay?
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:04.239
Yep.
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:06.800
Um let's just say up here there was nothing but stickers.
00:55:07.039 --> 00:55:07.360
Perfect.
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:13.679
Anyways, so she's cat calling a bunch of people, trying to get them to get their pictures, and she's got a bowl whip in her hand.
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:14.320
Did it work?
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.599
And she every dude that walks by, she's she's spanking them.
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:20.159
So you're like, I'm going back to get my bow.
00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:24.320
Yeah, I'm going, so I'm going for my hotel trying to go into the shooting area.
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:25.840
Without getting your butt tanned.
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:30.079
Yeah, I'm I'm watching her, and every dude that goes by, she says something to him and she gives him a whack.
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:31.679
And usually it's couples.
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:33.920
Like there's a girl and a dude, and he's he slaps the dude.
00:55:37.440 --> 00:55:39.599
No, I think she was only going for the dude, I think on purpose.
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:42.639
Anyways, I almost got run over trying to get around her.
00:55:42.719 --> 00:55:43.599
I was trying to get to the street.
00:55:43.679 --> 00:55:45.360
I did not, that was not how I want to start my nut.
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:48.880
I want nothing to do with that.
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:53.760
Anyways, um, that was the probably the strangest thing I saw um on the stream.
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:55.840
I was not expecting that, especially at nine o'clock in the morning.
00:55:57.840 --> 00:55:59.119
That's the strangest thing he saw.
00:55:59.199 --> 00:55:59.920
He got off easy.
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:01.199
Yeah, yeah.
00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:05.840
Um does anyone still dress up as Alan for the hangover?
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:13.519
Because I had uh my cousin went there with her husband probably four years ago, and they said when they were there they saw a bunch of people still dressing up like Alan from the hangover.
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:13.920
Really?
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:15.599
I'll I'll have to shoot you straight.
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:16.480
I've I have nothing.
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:17.280
You didn't see that?
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:17.599
No.
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:19.519
I got I got in trouble for that the other day.
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.079
Someone was giving me giving me lip for never watching it.
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:23.599
So it's on the to-do list, I guess.
00:56:23.760 --> 00:56:24.320
It's kind of crazy.
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:29.840
Yeah, I'll say I won't give you any more lip because we're on the podcast right now, but I'm gonna ditch out a little bit.
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:30.320
Yeah.
00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:31.519
Um yeah.
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:34.239
Um what were people what else were people dressed up as?
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:39.599
Uh I saw Mario, I saw a lot of um a lot of girls dressed up as different things.
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:41.519
Uh dressed down as different things.
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:43.360
Yeah, dressed down as different things.
00:56:43.519 --> 00:56:55.119
Uh some people dressed up as you know, honestly, about 85% were girls dressed up as we'll say um less modest versions of whatever they were supposed to be, like cops.
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:55.760
You know what I mean?
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:57.280
She's a teacher, kinda.
00:56:57.840 --> 00:56:58.719
She's a dentist.
00:56:58.880 --> 00:56:59.039
Yeah.
00:56:59.280 --> 00:56:59.679
Sort of.
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:00.320
Uh yeah.
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:02.719
She's a cow girl that's never been around a cow, you know.
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:04.320
Yeah, yeah.
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:13.760
Um and uh it's I find this funny, but at so nine o'clock in the morning, that the strip is pretty tame, except for that lady that's slapping all the dudes.
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.960
But uh other than that, it's it's a little more tame.
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:26.639
Yeah, um, I remember uh at uh pretty much when the sun goes down is when all the guys come out with the cards and uh they're handing out cards.
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:31.199
Yeah, um and I'm I'm sure you girls' names on phone numbers, yeah.
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:35.840
And there's I took a picture of it and I sent it to my my cousin because he thought it would be funny.
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:44.719
But uh there's a truck that just drives up and down the strip, and the only purpose is he's got a big billboard on the back that says escorts direct to you, and it's got a phone number on it.
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:45.679
That's the only purpose.
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:48.559
He just drives up and down the strip after dark, only after dark.
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:50.719
And uh in the morning, it's kind of funny.
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:52.880
You'll you'll go out and they keep the strip very clean.
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:53.360
Really?
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:55.760
Like they yeah, they click they keep it pretty clean.
00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.639
I mean, it looks fairly clean, and it should be really messy with how many people are walking there, right?
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:10.800
Yeah, but first thing in the morning they haven't necessarily had time to like clean everything up, and uh those people handing out the cards, people don't know what they're handing out, so they'll just take one and they'll look at it and they'll throw it on the ground.
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:14.000
So in the morning, the ground is just covered in their cards everywhere.
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:16.719
I've heard people like if it's raining, then like slipping on the cards.
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:18.320
Oh that's because there's so many.
00:58:18.639 --> 00:58:19.199
Yeah, yeah.
00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:20.800
Uh they keep the strip very clean.
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:22.559
Anything off the strip, not so much.
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:23.360
That's what I've heard.
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:24.079
That's what it smells like.
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:24.480
Piss.
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:30.320
We stayed off, we stayed at the Rio last year, and I walked one day to the strip, never ever again.
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:32.719
I was it was not a not a fun walk.
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:34.719
The sidewalk was like super narrow.
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:45.280
It was like practically walking in the traffic, and there was garbage everywhere, and needles everywhere, and it was yeah, uh one walk was enough for me.
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:50.960
I took a cab the rest of the time, so it wasn't worth the the$20 or$30 to do this for a cab every time after that.
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.199
But um but just stayed on the strip this time.
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:54.800
Yeah, that's true.
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:56.800
That's true.
00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.119
Uh but staying on the strip this year was way nicer.
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:00.880
There's just needles everywhere.
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:02.960
I thought they didn't have free health care.
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:04.400
Yeah.
00:59:04.639 --> 00:59:06.000
Off the strip, yeah.
00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.559
Um, but on the strip they keep it real clean.
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:14.400
And uh there's still people there that are, you know, in rough shape, but um different life choices?
00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:16.960
Like, have you considered the world of competitive archery?
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:17.840
Yeah, yeah.
00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:20.880
I hope you don't expect to be paid very much or at all.
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:29.199
Um as far as that goes, like it's like if you're trying to make a living in competitive archery, there's there's not very many people.
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:33.280
Well, who's that big one that everyone knows of, but I can't think of his name right now.
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:35.840
The big bow shooter is not Morgan.
00:59:36.239 --> 00:59:37.199
Levi Levi Morgan.
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:39.199
He's a 3D shooter.
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:42.719
But he's the one that mostly I mean, I I forgot his name, but I knew who he was.
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.519
Like he's the big big name.
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:51.199
I mean, he's he's he's made his money from you know, he's the best 3D archer ever.
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:53.599
He won shooter of the year, I don't even know how many times in a row.
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:54.960
He's like, you know, he's the best.
00:59:55.519 --> 01:00:01.920
Does he have his eye like because remember, was it Tiger Woods' eyesight is like altered a bit, and that's helped make him a better golfer?
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:03.280
You think Levi's like that?
01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:03.679
I don't know.
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.000
Yeah, but it's like that.
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:08.239
Uh kind of robotic eyeball.
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:09.039
Uh do you?
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:09.360
Yeah.
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:13.760
I uh well, kinda I have very, very poor vision of one eye, actually.
01:00:14.239 --> 01:00:21.440
My left eye, I uh if if I close it right now and Darren holds up like fingers, I probably couldn't I can I know that finger.
01:00:21.679 --> 01:00:24.000
I don't even need to I don't even need to see it.
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:25.440
I could have guessed that with my eyes closed.
01:00:25.679 --> 01:00:26.880
That was very predictable on that one.
01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:29.119
That was that was that was too predictable.
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:32.880
But uh yeah, I was I was born with a uh with a lazy eye.
01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:34.639
So that helped make you better shooting?
01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:39.119
Well, uh my vision in my right eye is a lot better uh because of it.
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:45.599
Um so maybe because I don't use this eye when I'm shooting, but it it hurts me in judging because I have really poor depth perception.
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:46.159
Okay.
01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:48.159
So I I don't judge well.
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:50.800
So uh, you know, pros and cons, I guess.
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:51.599
Yeah, well, that's cool.
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:59.519
It's like um, yeah, well, like Tiger Woods, like he's got that thing with his eyes where you know they're really good and he can judge better and all that for golfing.
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:03.360
And then um, what is it, Bo Brooks, the uh animal encyclopedia.
01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:05.199
The I'm a big fan of him, the collars.
01:01:05.519 --> 01:01:10.880
His teeth, he's got big fat teeth, and he's like, I don't know if it makes me better caller, he said, but I'm not getting them fixed.
01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:13.360
Man, that that guy is crazy.
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:15.599
I just ordered some of his turkey calls, but they're good.
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:15.920
I like them.
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:17.599
Yeah, I haven't tried them out, I guess.
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:20.559
But yeah, that guy can make some.
01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:21.840
Because you got your turkey licenses.
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:22.639
I did, yes.
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Make up my turkey license.
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You got yours?
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Yeah, you're in the same zone as my buddy, I think.
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15?
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Yeah.
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You're gonna use bow?
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I'd hope so.
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I did last year, and I missed one.
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:33.199
What?
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:33.840
Yeah, I did.
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Um I'm using my bow, so yeah, I think you should.
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Maybe you shouldn't if you're gonna.
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I bought some turkey low, just in case, honestly.
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Yeah, I'm not even ready to go.
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:42.159
I shoot foam targets, man.
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:43.360
I don't shoot animals.
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I try, I do, I try.
01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.480
Um but uh last year I did get a turkey tag.
01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:54.960
I stalked a turkey with the bow to 30 yards.
01:01:55.199 --> 01:02:00.880
And uh I not very good at judging, and I decided to judge it.
01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:05.679
Uh and he got a little closer than I thought he did, and uh, I should have shot a little lower, and I shot too high.
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:07.280
Yeah, I did that with the deer once.
01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:08.960
Yeah, yeah, not fun.
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:14.400
And then believe it or not, he never got he never uh like he kind of let me get that close.
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:15.920
I don't think he really knew what I was.
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:21.360
Like, because typically you don't stalk within range of a turkey, so I I don't think he really knew what I was.
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:23.840
He would not let me get anywhere near him after that.
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:25.119
I think he learned his lessons.
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:29.199
So uh this year I'm hunting a different zone, hopefully uneducated turkeys.
01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:31.199
And uh I will hunt with a bow.
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:33.119
At least it's three weeks now, so I got more time.
01:02:33.440 --> 01:02:34.480
Uh last year was tough.
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.760
I we had hunters uh the week after it ended.
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:40.800
So we were doing a lot of like Yeah, well, let's transition to that.
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:44.880
So your your guys' guiding how that tell me about that, how that can be.
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:47.760
So uh, I mean, I've grown up hunting.
01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:50.480
Uh my dad's always hunted, my grandfather's always hunted.
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:52.960
Uh my dad went to school with a guy named Paul.
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:56.719
He has always hunted with us as well, kind of our hunting buddy.
01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:10.000
Um uh back in the 80s uh and 90s, uh my dad used to guide for uh uh headpond outfitters and uh guy named Vaughn Scriver, he had it for I don't know, he might must have been guiding for 30 years or so.
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:12.400
He's in his late 70s now, mid-70s.
01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:14.639
Uh so he used to guide for him a little bit.
01:03:14.800 --> 01:03:19.679
And then uh when he was done guiding for him, I ski uh I started skinning bears for him.
01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:22.800
And uh he sold us his business.
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:29.039
Um he doesn't really have anybody around here, like his family's all um elsewhere mostly.
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:32.800
Uh so we didn't really have anybody to like kind of continue with it there uh here.
01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:36.000
So uh we decided to buy it from him uh just two years ago.
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:37.679
Last year was our first spring.
01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.159
Uh so we do mostly mostly bear hunts.
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:42.880
Uh we have uh allocated bear licenses.
01:03:43.039 --> 01:03:47.440
Uh we do a little bit of fishing uh as we get progressed.
01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:49.199
Um it's a side thing right now, right?
01:03:49.599 --> 01:03:49.760
Small.
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:55.519
Um I'd like to do some deer and some moose, probably, uh turkey, maybe a little bit.
01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:57.760
Yeah some fishing.
01:03:58.000 --> 01:03:59.039
Enjoying the fishing now.
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:04.079
I'm getting getting much more into fishing than I have been the last few years, doing tournaments for that and stuff, and it's really fun.
01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:04.960
Fabian, yeah.
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:06.000
Yeah, it's it's a lot of fun.
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:08.159
Yeah, I don't like fishing, I like catching.
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:09.039
Yeah, yeah.
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:09.760
No, yeah.
01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:14.320
Yeah, I've uh last year, honestly.
01:04:14.480 --> 01:04:18.719
Last year was the first year I fished really in a long time, and I did a lot of it.
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:20.480
We went and caught some sturgeon.
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:21.679
We were gonna go on Friday.
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:23.519
Sturgeon, like the they're the dinosaurs.
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:24.400
Oh, they're so cool.
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:26.480
Yeah, they're terrible fighters.
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:29.920
Like they're like the most boring thing to actually reel in, but they look so cool.
01:04:30.079 --> 01:04:31.440
Yeah, no, they're like deadweight.
01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:32.880
They're bottom feeders, right?
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:34.400
Yeah, they're they're not much of a fight.
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:38.000
Actually, I had a guy we were fishing with last year, and he's like, I think I caught a log.
01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:38.800
And he reeled it in.
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:39.920
No, I guess it was a sturgeon.
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:41.920
He's just dead weight, nothing.
01:04:42.159 --> 01:04:45.039
Uh, they can fight a little bit, they'll jump a little bit every once in a while.
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.920
Um, and uh there's lots of them in the river now.
01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:48.400
Like the St.
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:50.320
John River is a good spot for short-nosed sturgeon.
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:51.760
We have a little bit of Atlantic Sturgeon as well.
01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:53.039
Atlantic's the big one.
01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:56.239
Yeah, they're the big ones, but uh, I know they're there in the St.
01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.679
John, but nobody catches them, and I don't think they're feeding when they're in the river.
01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:01.199
I mean they're spawning and stuff, right?
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:08.400
So I just I I hear tee you hear people talk about the big ones jumping, and I heard of Diver who saw a real big one and they caught some in nets.
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:13.840
But I don't know anybody who's actually hooked a big Atlantic sturgeon and reeled it in, I guess.
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:15.840
So maybe I don't know.
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:17.840
I'd really, really like to, because it'd be really cool.
01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.960
But for the most part, we're catching smaller I mean it's smaller.
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:25.440
I mean, there's still you know 40 to 50 inches, um short nosed sturgeon.
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:28.159
But uh the Atlantics get huge.
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:28.639
Yeah.
01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:30.239
Uh huh.
01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:31.280
Yeah, that'd be cool.
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:33.519
The uh that's 40 50, yeah, that's a pretty big.
01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:34.960
That's a big yeah, it's a big fish.
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:36.079
Yeah, it's a big fish.
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:43.760
Um that's uh and that's an easier kind of guiding to do because it's it's a pretty simple fish and it's just and it's cool.
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:45.519
Yeah, it's like Google doesn't want to catch one.
01:05:45.840 --> 01:05:47.039
It's just beat fish.
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:49.360
Yeah, so how do you have you guided much yourself?
01:05:49.920 --> 01:05:50.400
For fishing?
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:51.440
Well, no, for hunting.
01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:53.119
Yeah, I mean, yeah, just mostly bears.
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:54.880
I do a little bit of a guided me for my bear.
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:55.440
Yeah, did he?
01:05:55.599 --> 01:05:56.639
Yeah, Darren shot a bear with me.
01:05:58.320 --> 01:05:59.840
Yeah, there's a moose standing in the background of the camera.
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:00.480
Shot video.
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:00.880
Oh, really?
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:01.599
Yeah, cool.
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:02.239
I watched the video.
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:03.679
It was it was pretty neat.
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:06.239
Um, and yeah, that what did that take us?
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:07.280
We only had one night.
01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:10.960
Oh, I think we're in the stairs for like 45 minutes.
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:11.679
Something like that.
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:12.400
The bear walked in.
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:12.800
Yeah, no.
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:15.840
Well, he sent me the picture after of the bear at the barrel.
01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:16.960
I'm like, oh, that's cool.
01:06:17.199 --> 01:06:19.199
He's like, no, look closer.
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:20.880
And I'm like, Yeah.
01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:22.400
That was it's a bear.
01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:24.239
He's like, no, look closer.
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:27.840
And I'm some like, oh shit, there's a moose standing back there.
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:30.400
It was crazy when it walked in.
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:31.599
We didn't know what it was.
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:34.719
We were like, we were hoping it was a bigger bear coming in.
01:06:35.039 --> 01:06:36.800
Well, that bear's got some long legs on it.
01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:40.480
Yeah, and then I remember saying I'm like, it's a moose.
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:41.679
There's a moose walking in.
01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:45.599
And then we were kind of almost a little interested to see how they would like interact.
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:47.760
The bear looked over at him and the moose.
01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:49.760
I'm sure they knew they knew they were there.
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:51.039
They both knew about each other.
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:52.320
They weren't that far apart.
01:06:52.639 --> 01:06:54.480
And uh no, the the moose didn't care.
01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:56.400
The bear didn't care, and uh yeah.
01:06:56.719 --> 01:06:58.880
Because a bear was at like 19 yards, yeah.
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:00.960
And the moose probably 50, yeah.
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:02.320
I was gonna say max 50.
01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:03.760
Yeah, yeah.
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:06.159
You could have let them line up a little bit, you could have got them both.
01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:09.760
I was gonna change my sight a little bit there.
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:12.000
I'd rather come home with moose, but yeah.
01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:15.440
But uh people might ask questions in June.
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:15.840
Yeah.
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:20.320
But uh yeah, we had you a bear in 45 minutes.
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:22.559
Um had some some bear hunters.
01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:24.079
We had a good success rate last year.
01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:28.800
Um most of the guys got a bear, a couple guys got one guy got two, I think.
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:32.079
Um it was a fun hunt.
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:35.199
Uh lots of guys, everybody saw a bear, had a shot at one at least.
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:35.760
Yep.
01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:40.320
Um, and then I did a little bit of I did do a little bit of deer guiding just for a buddy.
01:07:40.559 --> 01:07:41.440
You know, offer it.
01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:43.920
I I I want to wait.
01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:49.760
Like, if I'm gonna like offer a hunt for guiding, I want to make sure that I'm you know it's hard to offer deer guiding.
01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:52.079
It's really hard to offer deer hunting in New Brunswick, honestly.
01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:58.880
It's really so I had a buddy, he was um he was not having great luck at his spots.
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:04.719
He he he all his bucks disappeared and he wasn't getting great, I guess, uh pictures and stuff.
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:07.039
And uh he just kind of got into hunting.
01:08:07.119 --> 01:08:08.159
It was his first year hunting deer.
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:11.119
So I said, Oh, come over, I'll let you sit on my stand for a morning.
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:16.079
And uh he sat on the stand for an hour and shot an eight point, so tagged out.
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:17.039
Good guiding.
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:17.920
Yeah, I guess so.
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:20.560
I said, You post that everywhere, you tell them where that came from.
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:22.399
Yeah, uh, but no, that was fun.
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:29.680
And honestly, like I didn't get a deer last year, but uh previous years where I don't get a deer and I hunt really hard, I'm a little disappointed out of the season.
01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:30.800
I'm like, oh man, I didn't get one.
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:34.720
But honestly, that made my season just him and shooting a deer, and you know and you could have.
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:35.600
You passed up some small.
01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.239
Yeah, I passed up uh I passed up a decent eight point.
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:39.199
Which was pretty nice.
01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:45.199
Yeah, you're selective, was your I had a 13 pointer at 100 yards, and I did not have the rifle.
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:45.920
I had my bow with me.
01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:48.319
So I'm gonna have to get the sights out.
01:08:48.640 --> 01:08:50.319
Yeah, I thought about getting down trying to get over there.
01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:56.640
Oh my god, I was just send one out there for a poke and how far do you shoot how far are you comfortable shooting?
01:08:57.039 --> 01:08:58.079
An animal bow.
01:08:58.319 --> 01:08:59.520
Well, say with a target.
01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:01.439
See, yeah, animal and target are to be a little bit more than a little bit.
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:02.239
They're completely different.
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:03.760
I'm gonna ask with a target.
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:04.560
Like a target?
01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:06.640
How far am I comfortable hitting the 10 ring?
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:07.600
Like consistently?
01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:08.319
Yeah.
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:10.880
I'd say 60 to 60, 70 yards, probably.
01:09:11.199 --> 01:09:13.359
And 10 ring, like for people that don't know.
01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:16.239
It's about the size of uh a little bigger than a grapefruit, maybe.
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:18.000
You're comfortable at seven.
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:19.199
Five to six inches.
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:19.680
Yes, yeah.
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:20.800
Probably sixty to seven yards.
01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:21.920
I'm like that.
01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:24.079
I'll say like seventy-five percent of them are gonna go in there at least.
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:26.640
Um 50 yards, yeah.
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:28.720
Um animal.
01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:32.079
Depends what I really don't want to shoot much further than 30 yards.
01:09:32.399 --> 01:09:33.039
I was gonna guess 30.
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:33.520
Yeah, yeah.
01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:34.960
What if it's a moose?
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:36.239
Yeah, it depends on what it is.
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:40.239
You know, it depends on the situation and how comfortable I feel with my equipment.
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:53.359
Like, if I feel like my setup's dialed in and the wind's good, then maybe I'll, and depending on the the deer or two, like how it's acting and stuff, but oh man, at 30 yards, any further than that, like uh I will tell uh a little bit of an embarrassing story, honestly.
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:54.960
Uh you know this story.
01:09:55.199 --> 01:09:57.039
Uh I don't tell a lot of people this, but you know what?
01:09:57.119 --> 01:09:58.319
I think it's gonna listen to it.
01:09:58.399 --> 01:09:58.960
I'm gonna tell everybody.
01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:00.000
No one's listening to this.
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.720
I uh I hunt in Graham and Ann every year.
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:03.920
I mentioned that earlier.
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:04.319
Yeah.
01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:10.479
And uh for those listening from ways away, which there is some Graham and Ann describe it quick.
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:10.960
It's an island.
01:10:11.199 --> 01:10:12.479
It's an island off of New Brunswick.
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:14.960
It's about an hour and a half ferry ride.
01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:16.239
Um, and they have deer there.
01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:17.119
They have nothing but deer.
01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:20.079
They don't have coyotes, they don't have moose, nothing.
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:22.399
Uh they have uh they might have skunks.
01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:23.199
They have raccoons.
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:24.399
I know they have raccoons.
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:28.800
Um they don't have any any birds really.
01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:29.680
I mean grouse.
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:31.520
Um, they have rabbits, I believe.
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:33.920
Uh, but anyways, the main focus over there is deer.
01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:34.960
There's a lot of deer.
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:37.680
Uh very weird though, they have island dwarfism over there.
01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:39.439
So they're very, very small.
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:43.680
Like a big deer over there is 80 pounds.
01:10:43.920 --> 01:10:47.840
Like if you get a an 80-pound doe, that's a big doe over there, right?
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:49.439
Yeah, so that's crazy.
01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:53.439
Um basically the the way it works is we apply for that zone.
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:56.159
Just like you're applying for a dough tag in any other zone.
01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:56.960
You know, there's a drop.
01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:58.159
It's pretty decent odds.
01:10:58.319 --> 01:10:59.520
It's a hundred percent odds.
01:10:59.680 --> 01:11:01.039
Uh there's good odds.
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:06.000
So far, unless there's like a whole bunch of people apply, but basically, like I don't know now.
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:06.640
Yeah.
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:13.920
Uh I don't know what the draw rate or what the draw numbers were last year, but we'll say, like, say they gave out 400 tags, like 300 people would apply.
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:17.680
So there's usually like 50 to 100 tags that just don't get used.
01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:20.079
So you're 100% draw rate for now.
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:35.680
Um, and you get your antlerless deer tag, and if you go there during bow season, uh and you shoot one with archery equipment, which counts, crossbow counts, uh, as well as uh regular compound bow uh and recurve traditional stuff.
01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:47.680
Um if you shoot a doe, no, an antlerless deer during the bow season, you are allowed to buy a second tag for a buck like you normally would if you were just going to buy a tag for any other zone, right?
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:48.159
Yeah.
01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:52.319
Um so the the goal is to not shoot a buck over there because if you shoot a buck, you're done.
01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:52.560
Yeah.
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:55.760
And the the bucks are not worth shooting over there, to be honest with you.
01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.800
So yeah, I couldn't get away from them.
01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:02.239
I could not get away from they're all like three points.
01:12:02.560 --> 01:12:06.319
Well, let's just say the first buck I saw uh the first buck I saw might have been a spike.
01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:18.399
And uh I remember sitting there in the morning and a deer walked in and it's early, and I I'm looking at them and I'm being real careful because some of them are so small, like they have very, very little antler.
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:25.600
And I'm watching this deer for like it must have been 15 minutes on putting the binoculars up, and finally it's daylight enough that I can like put the binoculars up and have a good look of them.
01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:30.000
He had like an inch of antler on each side, like didn't know it was a buck until then.
01:12:30.159 --> 01:12:34.560
Like you gotta be careful because if I had a shot at him, I'd be done, which would have sucked.
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:37.199
So, anyways, uh I could not get a doe to come in.
01:12:37.439 --> 01:12:44.159
It's like they know, like it's like the bucks know they're safe or something, but um so didn't didn't get any bucks come in.
01:12:44.239 --> 01:12:48.159
But but Grandan's kind of cool where we hunt, we hunt on a little island called Ross Island off of Graham.
01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:50.079
You can only get there when the tide's low.
01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:53.520
Yeah, um, there's a lot of fields there, and there's a lot of open woods.
01:12:53.600 --> 01:13:00.239
The woods are like southern New Brunswick is a lot different as far as the woods go, uh, especially those islands too, like in the Bay Fundy.
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:06.079
Like it's it's a lot more open, I find, and you can like you can walk through the woods a lot easier than I can where where I deer hunt.
01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:08.079
So I've always wanted to spot and stalk a deer.
01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:08.319
Yeah.
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:12.880
So it's really hard, and Brunson, it's practically impossible with a bow, but it's doable.
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:24.640
Uh so I remember going and I I was I had this uh field that I had picked out that I knew that there was deer in, and I knew if I had approached it from a certain angle, and when the wind was good, that they were probably bedding in there.
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:37.680
So I go up there, it took me about 45 minutes of creeping into this area, and I finally got on top of a hill, and there was a doe standing like I'm like looking down a cliff practically, and she's about 30 yards away.
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:41.439
And I'm like, oh, this is great, and she's looking at me.
01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:46.319
So I kind of wait until she's not looking at me, and uh, I'm sure you've heard of jumping the string.
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:46.800
Oh yeah.
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.600
Well, um I didn't know this.
01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:51.279
Um I should have.
01:13:51.439 --> 01:14:02.079
Uh when their head is down, it's actually worse for jumping the string because their their center of gravity is already low, so they like when they're jumping the string, they're kind of like loading up on their legs to sprint away.
01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.439
Like they're not actually ducking, like they don't know enough to duck.
01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:07.279
It's just because they're loading their legs, right?
01:14:07.359 --> 01:14:10.000
Well, if their head's already down, they drop way faster.
01:14:10.319 --> 01:14:14.880
So, anyways, I draw back on her about 36 yards, we'll say, I think that's what what it was.
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:18.800
And I shot, and I remember watching the air, and I'm like, oh, it looks good.
01:14:18.960 --> 01:14:25.600
And she heard it, and man, she dropped like crazy, completely dodged it.
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:32.800
And little did I know that she had fawns, and there was a hill behind her that kind of dropped down, anyways.
01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:35.760
I hit her fawn, killed her fawn instead.
01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:42.560
Not my proudest bow kill, but uh didn't uh like a good shot on it.
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:47.039
Yeah, I mean she didn't go anywhere, but uh uh yeah.
01:14:47.199 --> 01:14:51.359
So, anyways, go down there and uh I remember I didn't even gut it, it was so small.
01:14:51.439 --> 01:14:54.800
I mean the deer are small anyway, like a yeah, it was a yearling, right?
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:56.399
It was this that year's fawn.
01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:58.880
Like, what wouldn't a fawn weigh in here?
01:14:59.119 --> 01:15:00.720
Like 60 to 70 pounds.
01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:01.840
60 to 70 pounds, yeah.
01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:03.840
This thing might have weighed 25, 30.
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:04.239
Really?
01:15:04.560 --> 01:15:05.760
I picked it up and put it on my shoulder.
01:15:06.880 --> 01:15:07.439
Yeah, pretty much.
01:15:07.520 --> 01:15:10.479
I remember walking back to camp, and everybody nobody else was hunting because it's the middle of the day.
01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:11.199
I just went for a walk.
01:15:11.439 --> 01:15:14.640
I remember walking back to camp with a deer on my uh shoulders, like, oh, this is cool.
01:15:14.720 --> 01:15:16.079
I'm going back to camp with a deer.
01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:17.520
Um put it in your back pocket.
01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:19.920
Yeah, we held it up like a rabbit to gut it.
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:21.439
So anyways.
01:15:21.760 --> 01:15:26.319
So you were aiming for her mist and like nailed her kid and drilled.
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:28.880
Wow, that's a good shot, kind of, right?
01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:30.239
Yeah, well, yeah.
01:15:30.399 --> 01:15:34.880
Well, not you should you should know your target and be on, honestly.
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:43.520
Um it it looked like it was just kind of flat, and it like I could see behind her, but there was a dip in the hill.
01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:49.439
So the way my arrow, because I was so high up on a hill, the trajectory of my arrow kind of went down into this little pit.
01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:51.039
She was basically in a hole.
01:15:51.359 --> 01:15:54.640
It was like uh basically a five-foot hole below this little knoll.
01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:59.359
And just the way that the trajector uh the trajectory went, it it caught something that I couldn't even see.
01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:01.119
Like I had no idea she was down there.
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:04.640
But uh, anyways, yeah, I didn't didn't burn my tag at least.
01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:05.920
So it's that's crazy.
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:07.119
Better hitting that than the neighbor.
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:08.000
Well, I got Margaret.
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:08.960
Yeah, yeah.
01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:11.119
So it really sucked in his little button back.
01:16:11.359 --> 01:16:12.479
Yeah, no, that would have sucked.
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:13.119
I would have been mad.
01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:14.319
I would have been really mad.
01:16:14.640 --> 01:16:15.279
That was crazy.
01:16:15.359 --> 01:16:16.399
You couldn't do that if you tried.
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:25.359
Oh man, it was like yeah, all three bites were pretty much two years before my dad shot one that was smaller.
01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:28.399
So smaller, yeah, it was smaller, it was smaller.
01:16:28.479 --> 01:16:30.560
Um you guys over there shooting rats.
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:37.279
Yeah, his hit it was the same kind of deal where he was way up on a hill, and he had no he hadn't seen any other deer.
01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.920
Like it was a fawn that had lost its mother, I think, or something.
01:16:40.159 --> 01:16:42.640
So it didn't have a doe to compare to.
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.199
So he really didn't know how big he thought it looked pretty decent size.
01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:47.840
It was a little, it's a little uh it's really weird.
01:16:48.319 --> 01:17:00.720
Like uh, I remember stalking up on a deer, and I like kind of guessed how far it was and then range finded it, and it was way further than I thought it was because it just you're just so used to knowing what a deer looks like for size, it kind of doesn't really because they look the same.
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.439
Yeah, so um they're just smaller.
01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:07.840
Uh yeah, his was so small that we when we butchered it, how small?
01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:13.840
No, yeah, we butchered it, we put it in a big kitchen uh bowl, and that was all the meat.
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:15.359
And it never got froze.
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:16.640
We ate it in a week.
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:19.920
So Ken shot raccoons bigger than the deer you got.
01:17:20.239 --> 01:17:21.359
Yes, yes, yeah.
01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:23.600
My dog's bigger than the deer I shot.
01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:24.560
I don't remember big dogs.
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:27.279
How big?
01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:27.920
48.
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:29.600
Yeah, that's the biggest we made it.
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:30.960
It's like 48.6.
01:17:31.279 --> 01:17:31.760
Yes.
01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:32.479
Yeah.
01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:36.079
So so I would never go over there just to shoot a deer to fill the freezer, though.
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:39.840
Like I said, like it's a bonus tag, so that's the only reason.
01:17:40.079 --> 01:17:40.479
And it's funny.
01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:45.039
And there's some duck hunting over there, some decent duck hunting over there.
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:47.039
So we we make like a trip out of it.
01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:50.880
So um, you know, you shoot your deer early, you get to go do some duck hunting.
01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:52.079
So it's a fun trip.
01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:53.520
Um, you know, stay in a camp.
01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:56.800
Like I said, sometimes we don't even bring back meat because it's can get consumed.
01:17:57.439 --> 01:17:58.159
Camp meat, right?
01:17:58.239 --> 01:17:58.399
Yeah.
01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:01.760
Um, I I took one of the fine quarters or the shoulders, and I I kept it.
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:02.800
It's all still intact.
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:05.039
I'm just gonna cook it whole, like a giant turkey leg.
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:06.239
Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:07.520
Tender though.
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:08.319
Oh man.
01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:10.880
Pale, pale meat, like very light colored.
01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:13.520
What are they eating mainly?
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:15.279
Uh there's a lot of grasses over there.
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.560
Um I think they they do forage a little bit on the on the seaweed?
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:20.079
Yeah, a little bit on the tide there.
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:24.800
I know that they will eat uh I can't remember the plant, but there's a little plant that they they will scavenge on.
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:29.439
But um, I don't think it's high in nutrition compared to like what's they're only getting that big, yeah.
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.479
Yeah, so um it's a cool place though.
01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:33.520
Really cool place to hunt.
01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:39.279
Like if if you ever, you know, it's like I said, it's a bonus tag, it's a cool little trip you can make over there.
01:18:39.359 --> 01:18:41.920
It's a couple guides over there, but uh well, I love it.
01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:42.880
I'll go every year.
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:49.359
Um so but uh because I typically don't want to shoot a dome in my area anyway, so I'll bar burn my list tag for over there.
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:55.920
But um yeah, it's a good spot, but um yeah, that's pretty cool.
01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:58.319
Um so uh what's next for you?
01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:01.439
Try to get over this injury and shooting.
01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:04.399
Um yeah, I'm gonna try that.
01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:06.560
Uh I got some stuff planned this summer.
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:08.880
Uh I like 3D a lot more than Target, to be honest with you.
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:10.079
Target makes you better.
01:19:10.800 --> 01:19:12.640
Um, but uh 3D is more fun.
01:19:12.720 --> 01:19:26.000
There is a 3D on Saturday, but um kind of committed to working the booth a little bit, and I've been so uh tied up with Target that I actually haven't even really done much with my uh 3D setup.
01:19:26.159 --> 01:19:31.199
So like uh the tournament on Saturday is like max 50 yards, and we haven't had any uh I missed the last one.
01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:37.600
I was doing first aid training uh too, but uh I haven't shot past uh Rexton, which is 27.
01:19:37.680 --> 01:19:39.680
You really don't need to do much for sight tape.
01:19:39.840 --> 01:19:44.159
So these bows that I have, I got them in the fall, so I haven't made tapes for them and stuff.
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:47.039
So I I just really have not had time to make a tape.
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:50.159
So uh and I I enjoy working the booth at the show.
01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:51.680
So yeah, so what are your goals for that?
01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:52.239
Get more people.
01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:55.920
Yeah, I yeah, try to get more people in our train into the bow hunter thing.
01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:58.399
Um I think it could should grow.
01:19:58.560 --> 01:19:59.920
Like we need to grow a little bit.
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:00.880
It's been better.
01:20:01.039 --> 01:20:09.119
Um, but uh you know, if you don't have people out there like encouraging people to try this, then you well let's let's do a little role play, shall we?
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:13.600
Um you'll you're Ryan worked in the booth, and I'm I'm I'm I'm not Kent.
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:15.359
I'm I'm freaking Bruce.
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.600
Just walk I'm just Bruce, never shot a bow.
01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:19.359
I'm like going by and like I'm going by.
01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:20.000
You see me.
01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:20.720
What are you saying?
01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:22.079
I'm like doo-doo doo.
01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:24.880
Yeah, well, uh first of all, I'll ask you if you're a bow hunter, I guess.
01:20:25.520 --> 01:20:26.720
I'm married, thank you.
01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:30.239
No um I'm I'm not.
01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:30.479
No.
01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:31.119
You're not.
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:34.800
So um Bruce isn't do you hunt or whatever?
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:37.840
Like um, you know, have you ever thought about trying archery?
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:40.000
It's a it's a fun sport.
01:20:40.079 --> 01:20:42.960
A lot of people enjoy like bow hunting or just shooting for fun.
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:47.439
It's it's a lot more um I find it more entertaining than maybe shooting a rifle.
01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:49.279
Like you can do it just in your backyard or whatever.
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:49.920
It's a lot of fun.
01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.800
There's tournaments, there's a good community that does it.
01:20:52.960 --> 01:21:01.039
Um it's a good way to get into into bow hunting is through archery like tournaments and stuff, or vice versa, getting into tournaments from the bow hunting.
01:21:01.119 --> 01:21:04.720
A lot of people come from that area, though they'll start bow hunting and they'll get into it.
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.439
Like, I don't know, how did you get into archery?
01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:08.640
Like well, same as you.
01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:11.119
I started with my bear cruiser and then I met Walter who's hunting.
01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:13.600
Yeah, and then Walter brought me to Marcel's.
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:17.119
I bought a big bow and then I spent a bunch of money.
01:21:17.359 --> 01:21:18.000
You're welcome.
01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:25.279
Uh I spent a bunch of money on bow, so I figured why just leave it in the closet for what 10, 11 months of the year.
01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:25.680
Yeah.
01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:27.359
And then start shooting.
01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:27.520
Yeah.
01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:30.479
And you discover that's that's a lot of fun you could have with this.
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:33.199
And the big thing is to go out to take your rifles out.
01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:34.319
Yeah, it's a pay shoot.
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:35.439
I hate shooting my rifle.
01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:38.159
And nowadays everyone entails a box.
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:40.560
A box of 20 is a hundred bucks.
01:21:41.279 --> 01:21:44.079
When you can go buy$150 for a dozen arrows.
01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:48.000
You buy once you're set up with treachery, you can shoot all day for nothing unless you're missing.
01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:49.760
Unless you're missing your doing stuff.
01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:50.560
That's on you.
01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:54.079
I broke lots of rifle like you do from like five till midnight.
01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:55.840
It costs you a thousand dollars a day.
01:21:56.239 --> 01:21:57.199
Yeah, it'd be crazy.
01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:04.960
So, do you ever try to make the pitch to people like in most areas, not just New Brunswick, but places in the States and all that, there's the archery seasons extended.
01:22:05.279 --> 01:22:05.760
You get more time.
01:22:06.319 --> 01:22:06.880
You do get more time.
01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:21.439
You do um there's a little bit of uh like our archery seasons are extended, but um not like there's an easier way of getting into it now to shoot your archery.
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:30.560
So I don't really I mean, yeah, you can get into the archery season early, but a lot of people who want to shoot the archery season early and don't necessarily want to get into because let's be honest, it's it's not plug and play.
01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:35.119
Like you don't you don't pick up a bow and expect to shoot good, you gotta get it set up and all that.
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:37.920
Um so a lot of people go crossbow route for that.
01:22:38.159 --> 01:22:43.680
But um anyways, um yeah, there's an extended season.
01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:46.880
Uh you know, it's challenging, it's fun, you know, good to challenge yourself a little bit.
01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:49.359
You enjoy being close to the end, yeah.
01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:52.159
You just get a better um yeah, it's just different.
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:55.760
It's just it's not for the faint of heart, we'll say, I guess.
01:22:56.319 --> 01:22:57.359
Who's Wayne's favorite quote?
01:22:57.439 --> 01:22:57.680
Yeah.
01:22:57.840 --> 01:22:59.359
Rifles what is it?
01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:00.079
What?
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:01.920
Where uh Wayne doesn't know his favorite quote.
01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:02.399
Oh, that's it.
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:04.479
Bow hunting starts where a rifle season ends.
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:07.520
Yeah, a bow hunt starts where a rifle hunt would end.
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:08.399
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:08.720
Yeah.
01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:12.079
Because I mean with a rifle, if you can see it for the most part, you could shoot.
01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:12.720
Shoot or eat.
01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:13.039
Yeah.
01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:13.760
Well, not everyone.
01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:14.960
You gotta get a lot closer.
01:23:15.119 --> 01:23:15.199
Yeah.
01:23:15.439 --> 01:23:24.159
But I had a guy on this podcast hasn't released yet with Hooligan Archer, and he was saying, like, with bow hunting, there's almost like a romanticized thing with it, right?
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:26.159
You said that people say and there is, you know.
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:28.000
It's more personal, it's more primitive.
01:23:28.239 --> 01:23:32.319
Yes, and the reward is bigger, I think, because not anyone can do it.
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:33.920
Not just anyone can do it, you know.
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:39.199
Anyone can just put up a gun with a scope, you know, rest bang, shoot it's dead with the bow.
01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:39.520
Yeah.
01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:41.680
There's more to it, so I find the rewards bigger.
01:23:41.760 --> 01:23:43.760
Yeah, you know, I've talked about a lot of big animals.
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:48.399
When I had a bow in my hand, I'm like, if I had a gun in my hand right now, I'd be done.
01:23:48.560 --> 01:23:49.119
Yeah.
01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:52.319
But you'd be doing something that your average Joe could do, right?
01:23:52.399 --> 01:23:57.680
So you're doing something that not everyone can, and it just I think it adds to the to it when you do have success.
01:23:57.920 --> 01:23:59.760
And everything's gotta go right with a bow hunt.
01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:00.239
Like, yeah.
01:24:00.479 --> 01:24:09.920
Getting getting an animal into range is one thing, but getting to full draw, settling in, and getting a good sh ethical shot off's two different things.
01:24:10.159 --> 01:24:12.079
Yeah, I'm sure you guys have rifle hunted before.
01:24:12.159 --> 01:24:15.840
You know, when you click off that safety and the uh and you're close and the deer goes, you know.
01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:19.520
Well, imagine like trying to do that, but you're like, you're not even settled in.
01:24:19.600 --> 01:24:21.199
Like, there's a lot more noise and movement.
01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:22.399
My deer this year.
01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:23.920
Yeah, he said he looked right up at you.
01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:26.399
It was dead quiet, and I was at half draw.
01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:26.800
Yeah.
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:29.680
And he just looks right up at me, like, well, I gotta keep going.
01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:30.319
Yep.
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:30.960
No.
01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:36.720
Um so as far as the my character Bruce going by the booth and he's I'm I'm in.
01:24:36.800 --> 01:24:37.119
I'm in.
01:24:37.279 --> 01:24:38.479
Yeah, he could good sell.
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:42.159
Another, another big thing is we're trying to get a lot of uh kids into it.
01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:42.720
Yep, right?
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:44.079
Like well, it's like smoking, right?
01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:51.920
That's what all the cigarette companies used to get to get the kids younger because they knew if they could get them between I think it was like 16 and 25, they'd have them for life.
01:24:52.159 --> 01:24:52.880
Yeah, yeah, right.
01:24:53.680 --> 01:25:02.640
You gotta take the smoker companies, the big tobacco companies approach to it, and you gotta get it hooked at a good young age, and then chances are they'll stick with it throughout life.
01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:04.000
Yeah, you know, and that's the thing.
01:25:04.079 --> 01:25:07.680
But that's the thing too, even doing this podcast and talking about like say my hands and this and that.
01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:10.720
I don't I don't want everyone to hunt, but I just don't want people to be against it.
01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:11.680
Right?
01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:12.800
Yeah, just be educated in it.
01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:14.960
You don't have to do it, just don't be against it.
01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:17.199
Yes, that's that's a big thing.
01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:19.840
Uneducated hate of it, I guess.
01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:25.840
And archery, I mean, I was talking to an outfitter last night at a podcast, but this one still hasn't come out yet either.
01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:37.520
And he was saying that he loot he loses less animals with his archery hunters than he does his rifle hunters because he says you hear the archery guys waiting for that perfect shot and all that where the rifle hunters just bang.
01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:39.279
Yeah, you have to be more knowledgeable for sure.
01:25:39.359 --> 01:25:39.760
Like you got to be a good thing.
01:25:39.920 --> 01:25:44.479
Oh, there's a lot of gun hunters that they don't touch their rifle all year.
01:25:44.640 --> 01:25:46.000
Oh season starting.
01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:47.920
Yeah, they don't even check my gun.
01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:50.159
They're like, oh, it's good last year, it should be good now.
01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:51.680
Only dropped it once, it should be.
01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:02.399
Once you set up, it doesn't cost too much to shoot.
01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:02.720
Yes.
01:26:02.880 --> 01:26:08.239
And the price of ammo with your rifle is shooting, fight them in and then fucking park them because they're gonna be able to get it.
01:26:08.399 --> 01:26:09.600
Every dollar three dollars.
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:13.279
Yeah, but I mean archery is as expensive as you want it to be.
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:16.239
If you want to do it, it's a little price to have a battery, right?
01:26:16.479 --> 01:26:20.239
If you want to go in and buy a ready-to-hunt package, you can do it pretty cheap.
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:27.359
And I mean, yeah, then you want to get into a little more expensive gear upgrade, and yeah, you can get some pretty pricey setups.
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:28.720
Some fancy stuff for sure.
01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:31.840
Yeah, yeah, you can make it as you want.
01:26:32.479 --> 01:26:33.279
That's the same with anything.
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:36.239
If it no matter what you're doing, you can make it expensive as you want.
01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:38.560
But it's fun, I think there's a good reward to it.
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:42.000
And if you don't if you don't want to get into the hunting part of it, competitive archeries.
01:26:43.279 --> 01:26:47.119
I know there's there's there is people that go from competitive archery into hunting too.
01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:52.000
Right, because they're very closely uh related worlds, right?
01:26:52.319 --> 01:27:00.880
Like you go, you go look at the pros, we'll say, in in archery, and uh you name me five five of the top five pros, and I guarantee four of them hunt.
01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:01.760
Guarantee it.
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:02.399
If not all five.
01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:02.720
Oh, wait.
01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:07.439
Bodhi hunts, Kyle Hunts, like they all, you know, it's similar worlds, I guess.
01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:13.439
But um yeah, we try to get a lot of kids into it because that's you know, your sport needs to need some younger.
01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:19.119
We don't have honestly, it's getting better, but uh, you know, our our classes are kind of aging out a little bit.
01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:19.840
Oh, for sure.
01:27:20.079 --> 01:27:22.079
Um so we gotta get some kids into it.
01:27:22.159 --> 01:27:27.119
We're gonna have a a range at the saw that you guys have yeah, there's like a foam.
01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:29.920
Yeah, we've basically just got targets for kids to come try it.
01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:30.560
That's kind of cool.
01:27:30.640 --> 01:27:35.359
Yeah, so it's like a big it looks like a big like foam pit looking thing, like a bouncy castle.
01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:37.600
Yeah, yeah, it's like almost like a tunnel in there.
01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:43.600
So uh we'll have uh some bows for people to try there and you know, stop by the booth and have a look.
01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:45.760
I know Tracy's bringing his bow hunting stuff.
01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:49.920
Uh I'm gonna have my uh target bow on display if you want to see what that kind of looks like.
01:27:51.199 --> 01:27:53.199
Um we'll have lots of other cool things.
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:56.479
We've got some cool stuff at the booth, so you know, stop by if you're around.
01:27:56.640 --> 01:27:59.840
But um yeah, trying to get some more kids into it for sure.
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:06.640
And you know, everybody and um you get the kids involved and sometimes the parents, you know, kind of interested in it.
01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:16.560
Like we have a lot of I used to shoot at a club that had a lot of kids, and um, you know, the kids would get into it, and then the uh you know the adults like, you know, I actually wouldn't mind doing this as something that's gonna get into.
01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:16.960
Yeah, yeah.
01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:18.560
Yeah, exactly.
01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:21.119
I started shooting with my bow, and then my dad ended up getting into it.
01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:22.159
Yeah, my dad's the same way.
01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:24.479
He he he didn't have a bow until after I had one.
01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:29.840
So um, where's what's next for you with traveling?
01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:31.279
You've been to Vegas, you've been to France.
01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:32.720
I'm gonna tone it down a little bit.
01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:36.000
Uh probably just I gotta go to Ontario at least once a summer.
01:28:36.079 --> 01:28:38.399
I might go to nationals, depending on how busy I am.
01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:42.960
Um but there's any like world traveling places you'd like to shoot at.
01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:47.359
I would, but I'll be honest with you, I think things are gonna settle down a little bit for me.
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:48.880
I won't be traveling nearly as much.
01:28:49.039 --> 01:28:53.199
Um, I currently work for my my father who owns a uh auto parts company.
01:28:53.279 --> 01:28:54.880
Yeah, and I work for him there.
01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:57.520
Um, and I am leaving to go to school.
01:28:57.760 --> 01:28:59.359
So I probably won't have nearly as much.
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:00.159
Does dad know this?
01:29:00.239 --> 01:29:00.960
Is he gonna find it?
01:29:01.279 --> 01:29:01.680
No, he knows.
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:02.960
He does know.
01:29:03.119 --> 01:29:04.479
No, no, he knows.
01:29:04.560 --> 01:29:07.119
Uh it's already set, I've already been accepted into the school and stuff.
01:29:07.199 --> 01:29:08.079
So what are you taking?
01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:09.199
I will be taking forestry.
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:09.760
Oh, cool.
01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:10.479
Yeah, yeah.
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:12.000
MC of team Frederic.
01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:12.479
Nice.
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.119
Uh yeah, so I'm really excited for that.
01:29:15.199 --> 01:29:20.319
I've not really been one for uh for books and stuff, but this school seems more up my alley.
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:21.760
It seems like I'll actually enjoy it.
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:23.920
So uh I've been thinking about it for a while.
01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:25.760
So um, yeah, it'll be tough.
01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:42.640
Um having the time like to balance it because like um, I mean, like I said, like you have to be so ridiculously good at it to ever like actually make it in any like even a lot of pros don't necessarily have that as their only thing.
01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:44.479
A lot of them own shops or do those.
01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:52.640
At the Vegas shoot, like four of the top ten, where there's only four of them that shoot for a living.
01:29:52.720 --> 01:29:52.880
Yeah.
01:29:53.119 --> 01:29:54.880
All the other guys have regular jobs.
01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:55.920
Yeah, I can see that.
01:29:56.319 --> 01:29:57.119
Yeah, yeah.
01:29:57.279 --> 01:29:59.520
So it's like any anything.
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:10.159
Yeah, and like, yeah, I mean, like, for example, like if we're talking like straight pros that are like top of the pros in the States, like I can only think of one Canadian that's actually like up there right now.
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:10.640
For now, yeah.
01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:11.439
Tell you to get there.
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:13.439
Yeah, well, don't think that will happen.
01:30:14.399 --> 01:30:15.920
Mark my words podium.
01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:23.439
But um, yeah, so uh I'd like to go to more tournaments, but um, you know, kind of just depends on what my schedule looks like next year.
01:30:23.520 --> 01:30:26.079
Like, I'm not gonna I can't afford to miss a whole bunch of time.
01:30:26.319 --> 01:30:28.239
So uh but I'll still go to some.
01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:29.920
I'll probably still go to Lancaster next year.
01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:32.319
Um that's a little easier to do, it's drivable.
01:30:32.479 --> 01:30:39.359
Um, and I can I can squeeze that into uh a shorter amount of time, but uh we'll see, I guess, you know, see what's coming up.
01:30:39.439 --> 01:31:02.000
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01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:06.239
Um uh uh Porcupine Hollow for sure.
01:31:06.319 --> 01:31:08.079
Uh like that tournament, it's a fun tournament.
01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:10.239
Um very good one.
01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:12.399
Um, very well run, it's great.
01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:15.439
Um, some good name, big names go there even from Canada.
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:16.720
Chris Perkins will be there.
01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:21.359
Uh I would like to go to Perkins shoot, but I I I gotta look at the dates.
01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:22.159
I I don't know.
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:26.800
Three trips to Ontario is a lot for one summer uh for me.
01:31:27.039 --> 01:31:31.039
Um because the Nationals is in Ontario this year, right?
01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:31.840
And we'll see.
01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:35.520
That's kind of like I might go to that, um, but we'll see.
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:39.119
Um it's a little further, I think, than Carl's.
01:31:39.359 --> 01:31:41.039
Uh Carl's is a 12-hour drive for us.
01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:44.720
Yeah, but which is the closest one because they were doing that triple crown this year.
01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:46.319
Yeah, Perkins isn't a whole lot further.
01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:48.239
Perkins, Perkins is very close to Carl's, I think.
01:31:48.399 --> 01:31:48.720
Oh, it is?
01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:50.079
Yeah, he's not that far from Carl's.
01:31:50.399 --> 01:31:50.560
Okay.
01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:52.720
Uh Rogues Hollow is coming up.
01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:54.000
Uh, I will not be going to that.
01:31:54.159 --> 01:32:00.319
Um committed to a fishing tournament that weekend, and it's just uh it's just a lot of travel.
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:02.239
Just got back from a bunch of trips.
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:03.760
So um, yeah.
01:32:03.920 --> 01:32:05.520
But uh no, some trips.
01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:11.439
Uh provincials and Atlantics, I'll definitely be at all of those, and um some local ones for sure.
01:32:11.680 --> 01:32:13.359
Um schedule looks pretty good.
01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:15.199
Last year was pretty pretty bad.
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:17.359
Uh, I think I only went to three shoots last summer.
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:18.640
There was like nothing on the schedule.
01:32:18.800 --> 01:32:22.159
I went to Provincials, Atlantics, and Porcupine.
01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:24.159
I was in the same boat, yeah.
01:32:24.399 --> 01:32:33.439
And I think there was maybe two shoots that I could have gone to, and but they were like up in like up north, Campbellton.
01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:34.159
I think there was one.
01:32:34.319 --> 01:32:35.520
I uh I don't know.
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:38.960
I it's a far drive for a club shoot, to be honest with you.
01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:46.720
So uh but this year I Frederton's got some again, and uh Rexton's got a bunch more, so probably a lot more busy this summer with it.
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:57.920
But um and Bathurst has a good one up uh sounds like they're gonna do uh the attack of the I think that's uh Nigadoo's doing that, I believe.
01:32:58.159 --> 01:33:02.000
Yeah, I haven't looked to see uh that might be conflicting with something that I've already got.
01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:02.560
Oh, really?
01:33:02.720 --> 01:33:04.079
Yeah, I'll have to see the end of August.
01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:05.039
What does suck this year?
01:33:05.199 --> 01:33:06.880
Actually, I think we're missing provincials.
01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:09.920
Yeah, because Porcupine Hollow and Provincial is the same weekend.
01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:10.159
Yeah.
01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:12.800
And initially the East Coast Crown was the same weekend.
01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:13.279
Yeah.
01:33:13.520 --> 01:33:15.439
So I don't know So I don't know what's going on there.
01:33:15.760 --> 01:33:18.000
Yeah, I heard that provincials changed their dates.
01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:19.119
Oh, provincials did?
01:33:19.279 --> 01:33:19.760
I yeah.
01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:20.159
Really?
01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:20.960
I did hear that.
01:33:21.680 --> 01:33:22.399
I didn't see that.
01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:23.279
East Coast Crown.
01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:26.640
I don't know if that's still up in the air where they didn't get the ship together last year.
01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:29.920
Yeah, uh we'll see if that one's what's what's going on with that.
01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.560
I mean, uh hope to hear from them soon.
01:33:32.640 --> 01:33:34.000
I mean, it's not that far away.
01:33:34.079 --> 01:33:35.760
It's got some planning involved in that kind of thing.
01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:37.119
It's not a small task.
01:33:37.359 --> 01:33:40.000
You can't just come home at night and you gotta stay somewhere.
01:33:40.479 --> 01:33:42.560
Yeah, so um yeah, we'll see.
01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:45.760
Uh last year kind of sucked because there was no UCC, so we didn't go to Nova Scotia.
01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:46.800
That's a good one to get.
01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:47.680
Yeah, that's a really good one.
01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:48.399
Yeah, that's a good shoot.
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:48.880
Yeah, that's it.
01:33:48.960 --> 01:33:51.119
Um that's the ASA style, which is really fun.
01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:52.000
I like that.
01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:54.319
But um, yeah.
01:33:54.560 --> 01:33:57.600
Well, not a whole lot on the go, but you know, a few things, I guess.
01:33:57.840 --> 01:33:59.279
Just plugging away.
01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:08.720
Which one out of Vegas, Lancaster, and which one if you were to pick one to go to?
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:09.199
Yeah.
01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:13.680
Other than Lancaster being closer, like just the tournament style itself.
01:34:14.079 --> 01:34:17.760
If your first time ever going to a tournament, I would definitely say Lancaster.
01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:18.239
Lancaster.
01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:19.760
Lancaster is my go-to.
01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:20.159
Yeah.
01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:20.880
Yeah.
01:34:21.279 --> 01:34:24.720
Um good setup, well run.
01:34:25.279 --> 01:34:28.399
Uh and there's it's less confusing, I guess.
01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:30.960
Like Lancaster's pretty cut and dry as far as the classes go.
01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:39.039
Like there's pro, amateur, um, hunter, and then uh I'm talking compound classes here.
01:34:39.279 --> 01:34:41.439
Uh, and then there's like age classes too.
01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:45.199
Uh whereas uh so there's just basically one for each, really, essentially.
01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:48.079
And then there's a shoot up, and the shoot-up's really cool to watch and all that.
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:57.439
Um Vegas is a little different because there's like there's championship divisions and then there's flights, and the flights are really weird where uh like they all shoot.
01:34:57.520 --> 01:34:59.600
I'm not exactly sure how it works.
01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:09.199
I've never shot the flights, but basically, you guys all shoot on one day, and then they kind of separate you into different groups depending on how you score the first day.
01:35:09.520 --> 01:35:12.399
And then you are no longer competing against everybody.
01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:16.319
There's a you can win flights one, flights two, flights three.
01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:19.039
So uh it's a little different, I guess.
01:35:19.199 --> 01:35:23.600
Um, whereas Lancaster is just the open class, like it's kind of cut and dry.
01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:26.640
Um and Lancaster scoring is different.
01:35:26.720 --> 01:35:29.680
So Lancaster, we do 11 scoring, 11, 10, 9.
01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:35.279
Uh Vegas, if you're shooting the championship class, it's X 10, 9, so on.
01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:39.600
And if you plan on making the shootoff in the championship class, you have to shoot a perfect 900.
01:35:39.680 --> 01:35:41.119
You have to shoot 90 tens in a row.
01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:41.840
We cannot miss one.
01:35:42.479 --> 01:35:49.920
So that's the other thing about uh Vegas is um if you're shooting the championship division, anyways, the flights.
01:35:50.079 --> 01:35:54.479
I mean, you're not gonna win the flights if you're shooting below like 899, probably.
01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:57.039
But um, I mean your tournament can be done if you're gonna be able to do it.
01:35:57.199 --> 01:35:58.000
Which is one shot.
01:35:58.239 --> 01:35:59.199
I should I missed on the third arrow.
01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:01.279
I missed on the third arrow this year.
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:03.520
Yeah, bounced off the back wall and shot a bad arrow.
01:36:03.680 --> 01:36:06.319
So um then you're just kind of there for the rest of it.
01:36:06.479 --> 01:36:08.560
Like you know you're not gonna, you're you're just kind of hanging out.
01:36:08.720 --> 01:36:13.199
Whereas Lancaster, you know, you could start off slow and you can you can make up ground, right?
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:19.840
So um I would say Lancaster is the best for if you're going to a target tournament.
01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:20.159
Right.
01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:24.079
But um it's different for sure, like stepping up on the line and in Lancaster.
01:36:24.399 --> 01:36:26.399
But it's not just a line of like 30.
01:36:26.720 --> 01:36:27.600
And you don't know everybody, right?
01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:28.640
Like you know nobody.
01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:30.560
So yeah, it's different.
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:31.359
It's different.
01:36:31.520 --> 01:36:39.840
Uh honestly, going to these big tournaments, you get super nervous, and then you used to get nervous at the local ones, and you come back to the local ones and they're not as bad.
01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:41.119
The nerves are nowhere near as bad.
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:42.479
So that helps a lot.
01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:56.479
Even if you don't necessarily do well there, it's it's valuable to because for local tournaments, the most nervous you really get are the shoot-offs at ECC or lead or the nationals or yeah.
01:36:57.119 --> 01:37:06.399
Um yeah, we really don't have a lot of like and 3D is a little easier because you're in only like small groups, so you're not like on the line with everybody.
01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:13.119
So until the shootoff when there's a hundred people watching you with binoculars and you've been to quite a few one of five people on a shootoffs.
01:37:13.279 --> 01:37:14.720
How many shootoffs have you been to, Darren?
01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:15.680
You've been quite a few, right?
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ECC once or twice, once Porcupine and Porcupine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so it's nerve-wracking.
01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:24.800
Oh, for sure.
01:37:25.119 --> 01:37:25.439
It's different.
01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:28.720
Well, that's the best way to practice for a big buck stepping in front of you.
01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:29.439
Yeah, yeah.
01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:29.920
Yeah.
01:37:30.159 --> 01:37:31.039
You know, that's the whole point.
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:32.159
That's the whole point of it.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Get the heart pumping and let her fly.
01:37:35.840 --> 01:37:36.640
That's why most people do it.
01:37:36.720 --> 01:37:38.880
It's a practice for for for a hundred.
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A lot of I mean, I don't say most lot of people, but yeah.
01:37:42.960 --> 01:37:46.399
Um well, I was gonna say on that's good.
01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:50.800
On that note, I was gonna I was gonna put a I was gonna put an arrow in it for now.
01:37:51.279 --> 01:37:53.840
Uh because uh we all do have a big day tomorrow.
01:37:54.079 --> 01:37:55.840
Yes, 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.
01:37:56.079 --> 01:37:59.600
So um on that note, yeah, Ryan, thanks so much for coming out.
01:37:59.920 --> 01:38:01.039
Thanks for having me on having you on.
01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:01.680
Yes, yeah.
01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:02.800
No, I've been looking forward to this.
01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:08.000
Yeah, Lane, Darren, thanks for helping out with questions and all that, and uh, I'll see you guys all tomorrow.
01:38:08.159 --> 01:38:08.640
Yes.
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Cool.