Lindsay: What's your price to do a cartwheel? Anytime you hear a stranger's baby cry or to know that within your lifetime five bathroom visits will become surprise escape rooms, or to see a random, to see 16th century celebrities standing by the roadside, waving and giggling on your commute. To work. Let's
Aron: find out.
Ooh, spooky. All right. You know what that means? It's time to play human values. Apparently. Your weekly stop for logical debates about illogical questions here to give each hypothetical the dialectical, but the O and Comedy game show and scratch that itch right there. While you're watching Twitch, we are hosts and Ruben Korney and Lindsay Hicks.
Also, joining us today is a very special guest, comedian, sun Deep Paik.
Lindsay: We've out to get spooky and kooky. Let's.
Aron: You have a lovely beard and as a beard, I, I just, I can appreciate it.
Lindsay: The beard game is very strong right now from my perspective
Aron: using product, bro, I
Sandeep: have it. Beard oil. That I use rarely when it gets itchy, I'll use it. Mm-hmm. , but usually this is kind of oh, natural for the most part. You know, this is just natural Indian face oil that just just happens.
Yeah. The beard is, it's like, it's interesting because my parents are very anti bearded. And wish that I would not have a beard. Why? In Indian, like in their neighborhood in, in Guro in India. That's like kind of how they denote Muslims from Hindus. Really? Yeah, totally. And so they're like, you are dressed like Muslim and I'm like, Um, I think I'm dressed as hipster from from Los Angeles.
Yeah,
Aron: well that's what, that was my theory at first. I'm wrong. I thought your answer might be that it's something about like Western immigration integration, right? It's like they want their son to be clean shaven. Cuz
Sandeep: that's, I think, I mean there's probably some aspect of that, like where it's like that's not how you show up to work, but I.
Guys, I've been in the entertainment industry for 20 years at this point. There's no one that you should know that there's no boss at the other that cares how I groom. Look, what's a complicated world that we live in, you know? Um, and parents are no , no, no stranger to those complications, I guess. But
Lindsay: also I feel like the world has changed so much where like even in the most corporate of corporate places, obviously maybe not on like Wall Street with like finance bros or whatever, but like in many corporate places you can.
Look however you wanna look like there was a time where like if you had a tattoo showing it was big. No-no. And now it's like you can kinda show up with a beard, you can show up with a tattoo and nobody really cares that
Sandeep: much. I think you're right. I think it depends on the industry, depends on part of the world you're in kind of thing.
But certainly in our little enclave out here in LA, I feel like it does not matter how many face twos face tattoos you have as long as you're willing to get the damn job.
Lindsay: And often the more face tattoos, the better, the better the situation is
Aron: for you. Yeah. Well it's interesting you brought up religion too, cuz that's where I go with it is like, I'll wear or do anything, but I know I'm Jewish, so in my culture you don't get tattooed.
And so it's like sure you fit in. Very easily in the mainstream. But you, you are like, well, but the traditions of my culture, eh? I know. I'm gonna get a little side eye. Do I care? Nah. Below grade, like really Care . Yeah. To, so do you have any tattoos? I don't. Recently, I've been buying necklaces of things that I want to wear as tattoos to help myself have it on me constantly.
Cause I'm working up the courage to get my first tattoo. Oh, gotcha. But like, every time I'm about to do it, I'm like, well, like, it's like that's what comes with like immigrant families and religion, right? So I'm like, gonna get it. I'm like, well, and then I start thinking about like the exodus from Egypt and the Holocaust, and like all these things.
I'm like, well, I'm, I'm gonna honor my like culture by doing the thing that you're not supposed to do in my culture. Like, it's like I feel like overwhelmingly privileged and I get guilt, which I. Judaism's built on guilt, but I think all religions are, what kinda
Sandeep: necklaces are you rocking? Just like some like tribal designs, some barbed wire?
No,
Aron: no, no. I usually have a couple on, but I'm not, I took a shower right before this and I actually took them off. I sometimes, like maybe once a week will take them off before I shower and like I'll just put 'em aside. I don't know why, what determines it for me. But lately I've been rocking two necklaces.
One is like a Japanese symbol for rest, and it's on like a metal whistle thing that you use to breathe. It's like a breathing meditation. Tool. So for like mindfulness meditation. The other one is a jigsaw puzzle piece. Nice. People often think it's a, a autism awareness thing, but it's not. I use it as a constant reminder.
It's probably the first tattoo I'll get is a jigsaw puzzle piece. At some point, I use it as a reminder just to like make sure the people, the relationships, the work, the lifestyle, the habits you have, look for the things that click and properly don't force them and fray the edges. Just trying to make it work.
Really look for what's the natural symbiotic. Click, um, for anything you're doing in life. And it helps remind me cuz I think we all lose sight of that when we get pulled into the fray. I love that. So those are my badass necklaces to represent my badass tattoos. Those
Sandeep: are pretty great necklaces. I was gonna say, like for me, if I ever get a tattoo, I don't have a tattoo, but like my plan is to make sure to go to Japan first and go to all those like spas that you're like not allowed to go to if you have a tattoo.
Oh right.
Aron: Cuz it could be Yakuza, right? I didn't know about. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Would any of us on this call be on their radar as potential ikua though?
Sandeep: Um, , listen, I have a storied past. Uh, we'll get into that later , but Yeah. But there's a thing like, like where apparently you can't go into certain. Cool places in Japan.
If you have a tattoo.
If
Lindsay: you have a tattoo, because they think it, it implies that you are a danger. Mm-hmm. .
Sandeep: Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I think it was like a whole Yakuza thing, like to make sure that they're sort of keeping the ECU out. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it would be like, okay, clearly this five six, uh, Harry Indian man is not acoustics.
Like we could let him in, even though he's got his like Boston Red Sox tattoo on his ankle or whatever. Uh, . So, but I'm not willing to
Lindsay: risk it. I wouldn't be allowed. And that upset. I wouldn't be, I have a couple of little tattoos. You're as
Aron: white as white gets though. You're right.
Lindsay: Yeah. But then, but you know, the accuser might want me to be a part of their team because I would be, I would be, you know, the least.
Sandeep: Suspect you could infiltrate the spas that they need to get into. Yeah, a hundred percent. You'd be implicated. I might just
Lindsay: be doing an impression of a basic white girl who lives in Los Angeles. Little do they know. That's just real .
Aron: Wow. You'd be keeping like a thousand year old ancient C sword in your tiny dog.
Lindsay: What? I just wanna go get in the
Sandeep: hot tub. Wait, have we started the podcast yet? Yeah. Why
Aron: not? This whole thing about it, like Lindsay, I love this character of the, like the valley girl, LA white girl who is like low key, a Yakuza assassin, but keeping it hidden. Like Legally Blonde for Yakuza.
Sandeep: Yeah. This is your web series?
Yeah. Yeah.
I
Lindsay: mean, you know, it's a little colonizer, but it's also, you know what a tale.
Sandeep: Yeah. I mean it's basically Kill Bill, isn't it? In a way? A little
Lindsay: bit.
Aron: A little bit, yeah. It's like Kill Bill meets Legally Blonde ,
Lindsay: but instead of Kill Bill, it's something a little bit less of, less like scary, like Hurt Tom or something.
Aron: But listen, on that note, maybe we should bang the Toms, get a snare roll going and kick off the game proper. What do you guys think? Well,
Sandeep: when you put it like that, that segue was so great. . Oh, get ready to
Aron: hop on and go for a ride. , listen, the way it works is pretty simple. It's gonna be three, what's your price to do blank questions that are all just inspired.
And Lindsay will tee them up at us. And the real issue is not what's your price, but what's the least amount you're going to take to do the. Got it. And then we also look at like, answers submitted by the listeners. People go to human values podcast.com, hashtag plug right there. But everybody, like, we get a lot of awesome submissions from the listeners also of like what their price would be and some of their questions.
So it's just a, it's just a ro so if you're ready for a romp and you're not gonna be like a little baby and cry about it, can't promise that Lindsay. Maybe let's do another baby Christ segue.
Lindsay: Oh, okay. I see what you're
Aron: doing there. I'm gonna hide these all over the place today. Guys.
Lindsay: What's your price to do a cartwheel?
Anytime you hear a stranger's baby cry.
Sandeep: Mm Oh, I get the segue now. Yep. . What's that fun. That was great. Yeah. Every time I hear a stranger's baby cry, I do a cartwheel. The price that I would, that I would require for such a curse to be placed upon me.
Aron: Should I do my baby cry? By the way? It's not why the question's here, but I actually do a baby cry mutation that I feel like.
Sandeep: I think we should all do our baby cries and then just judge who's the best baby cry.
Aron: Lindsay, you want to judge or do you have one? I'll be the judge
Lindsay: cause I don't really have
Aron: a good baby cry Sunday Pi go first.
That was so good. Top that
Lindsay: the fact that that just came out of a grown man, I'm beside myself. If
Sandeep: I could drop this mic, I would, but I can't. . This
Aron: is like the least masculine face off I've ever had, and I'm happy about it. Go.
Sandeep: Ups
Lindsay: A up, up,
akp.
Aron: Motherfucker.
Sandeep: That was really good.
Lindsay: I'm so upset. Aron. That was so upsetting to me. Think you
Sandeep: win. No,
Lindsay: I think it's a tie. That was the one that like a chill went down my spine. Yeah. Like I'm not, I had a really adverse reaction to that.
Sandeep: I'm not, I'm not upset at losing it. This, I'll say
Lindsay: that. I don't know if I can say if there's a winner or not, but I can't say who.
Whose baby car was more upsetting to me. But I don't know if that counts as the win. Yeah, that counts as the
Aron: win. I always consider it a great day if I upset you too much. I'm just kidding. ,
Sandeep: I think that is the win, cuz to me that's the purpose of the baby cry is to make you feel upset so that you go take care of the baby.
So that's a great metric. Correct.
Aron: Oh, evolutionary man. Take that. Lindsay's ovaries you hated that
Lindsay: didn't go to the ovaries. That one did not go to
the
Aron: ovaries. It's tmi. But I'm, I'm used to have heard that .
Sandeep: So Aron one, I just, I think we should just establish.
Lindsay: If the metric is the one that upset me the most, then yes, Aron did win.
Sandeep: I'm fucking outta here. I'm out.
Aron: listeners, let us know who won. Go on our Instagrams.
Sandeep: Here's the thing that you guys don't know about me, I guess, which is fine. Nor should you. I was a gymnast for 14 years of my life, competed nationally and so cartwheels. Fucking fu easy and gleeful for me. . So this is a low price.
Lindsay: Wait, I have some questions about your gymnast
Sandeep: story. Of course. Please. By all
Lindsay: means. What kind of flips are we talking? Are we talking like round off? Back handspring? Back tuck. Full twisting layout.
Sandeep: Okay. Look at you with the lingo. So I topped out at a double twisting, um, double. That's double, double. It's basically a two twists, two flips.
That's
Lindsay: the best that like most people. That's pretty advanced, right?
Sandeep: Yeah. And I think I ever landed it like kind of once, that was probably the best I could do. And then, um, I was not that good. I'll say that. What
Lindsay: do you mean if you could do a double twisting? Double flipping thing?
Sandeep: Yeah. Yeah. The thing is about gymnastics.
It's all about consistency and if you're not able to consistently do the trick, like probably my coach would be like, you never, you couldn't do that trick because I couldn't do it every time. Right.
Lindsay: It wasn't a sure
Sandeep: thing. Yeah, it wasn't a sure thing, so I didn't always compete it. I'd often just competed double back or full, full in or something.
That's the real, the real metric. So yes, to the layman, I was probably amazing gymnast, but to other gymnasts it was like, uh, you know, I was kind of lucky to be there if I was, if I ever competed nationally or you know, any sort of major competition. For me it was more about, oh, I get to be in the front row seat watching like.
Olympians. Wow. Kick my ass. .
Lindsay: So when did you stop doing that?
Sandeep: When I went to college. Yeah. My college didn't have a men's program, so it was, it was, that's when I retired, that's when I hung up the grips as it were. You didn't
Lindsay: wanna be a cheerleader and do the whole like missy from. That movie, the cheerleading movie, where she's like, your school has no gymnastics team.
This is a last resort kind of thing. You know what I'm talking about?
Sandeep: Probably would've been a pretty good movie, but I was like kind of toast on it. At that point. I was pretty burnt. I did get asked in high school to be on the high school cheerleading team to be the mascot.
Lindsay: No, you need to be out there flipping and
Sandeep: shit.
Yeah. Yeah. That's what they wanted. But here, here's the, here's the rub. At the time our mascots were the redkins. Oh no, . I'm like, you asked the Indian guy to play the other type of Indian guy that they shouldn't be playing. Like, I don't think I'm gonna do that. Not good. Not good. But I will tell you this, it was a hard decision because they sent the whole cheerleading squad to my lunch table when I was like a freshman to try to convince me and it.
An excellent pitch. Let's just say it was an excellent pitch for a freshman to be sitting at, at a table full of the cuties. Aw girls. Yeah. Flipping cuties, but, uh, had to turn 'em down. My coach wouldn't let me, actually, I could, I couldn't compete on anything else besides gymnastics if I wanted to be on the sincere, you know, boys team needed
Lindsay: all of your attention, dedication, time, commitment.
Sandeep: So, okay, I'm gonna ask this. So the price that. I mean, we're talking how much this a lump sum amount.
Aron: It's a lump sum typically. You could break it out if you want, but it's what I was thinking about is that it's anytime you hear a stranger's baby cry. So I didn't process that until now, cuz I was like, oh, anytime a baby's cry.
It's not
Lindsay: anyone in your family, not your own baby, nobody that you know.
Aron: Right. So you could just get to know your town.
Lindsay: If you're on an airplane, you're getting kicked off of that. Oh my
Aron: God. I love that.
Sandeep: That's so true. Or it'd have to like, make a whole thing about it, you know, be like ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah. Or I can just do it. I, I think I can be quick about it too. I'm like, be bad during turbulence. Oh yeah, that'd
Lindsay: be tough. That'd be scary. You'd have to fly
Aron: private. Can you flip, by the way, Lindsay, can you do cartwheel? No,
Lindsay: and here's the thing about me is that I was a cheerleader. I was a cheerleader in high school and I tried as hard as I could.
I'm. Just over five, eight. I'm not a short girl and I don't know why. Maybe it was my height, I don't know, but I could never get a flip down. I'm telling you, I went to classes, coachings trainings for many years, like four years, five, and never ever. Did one single solitary flip. I was a spirit girl cuz I couldn't do any flips.
Could never learn how it's not in my body. I don't like to be upside down. Yeah. But I can do a cartwheel. I can even do a, a killer round off. Mm-hmm. , but nothing
Aron: more than that. But you could do a cartwheel. I can do a cartwheel.
Sandeep: Oh. A lot of it's about like a center of gravity. You know, just like where, where that is in your body.
People who have it, like I think more in your upper body can potentially flip better. I dunno if that's true. I'm just kind of throwing that out there.
Aron: I'm just thinking about this whole Yakuza show for Lindsay and like the logo of it is her doing a cartwheel and it turns into a ninja star. Ooh.
Sandeep: Yeah. I like that.
I just like the idea that your peak move is a, is a cartwheel. Like, like that's, that's the move that everybody's waiting for. That's your like van damn split or, you know what I mean? It's like everybody's, it's a finisher. The Lindsay Cartwheel in, in the episode and that's when they know, oh dang. She's ready for business.
Oh, she's
Lindsay: about to tear the house down. Yeah. There's a lot of public places that don't accept, like if in a grocery store, yeah, I'll do a cartwheel in a grocery store for sure. In a, in a movie theater. Don't have a baby in there. The baby's not really taking it in.
Sandeep: How about a funeral?
Lindsay: Ooh. You have to do it in, you have to do it in the space, or can I just walk outside and do a quick cardi and come back in?
Aron: It's likely, it won't be a stranger though, at a funeral. If you're invited to the funeral, it's very likely that you'll know the baby in question or, and if you don't, then you, the moment you see a baby, you be lying to befriend their, their parents.
Sandeep: And just work a cartwheel into the beeline. It's
Aron: a stranger's baby.
So you just like, you see a baby, find a parent, befriend them quickly.
Lindsay: Or if you're on an airplane, I guess you could go up to the parent and be like, Hey, I'm Lindsay, what's your
Aron: baby's name? No, no, it's not about the baby's name though, right? The, the wording is anytime you hear a, but I mean, to make
Lindsay: friend, you know, I'm just talking
Aron: about an opener.
Don't waste time on the baby. You can't make friends
Sandeep: after the fact, get you out of the cartwheel, I don't think. No, but
Aron: before the fact, you could like kind of, if you can
Lindsay: preemptively befriend.
Sandeep: Oh, I. Just before the baby's crying. You just like, you scope the area, find every, every mom with a baby, and you're like, yo, we need to be friends in like 10, in like 10 minutes.
Aron: Yeah. If like, if you go to funeral, whoever you're with, I'll be right back. I see a baby. Gotta make their parent my friend. Yeah. Keep your head on a
Sandeep: swivel for babies. It's kinda like
Aron: wedding crashers, but a lot weirder. Yeah. Oh
Sandeep: yeah. You know what would make this tough actually now that having a three year old is, there's a lot of places that I go to that.
You know, like parks that I bring kiron to, or birthday parties at, jungle gyms or trampoline places or whatever that like, there are kids in Bayer, you're really
Lindsay: saying all places that sound really fun to do cartwheels in like parks and jungle gyms.
Aron: Yeah. Get really high end earplugs. Yeah.
Sandeep: I guess it's not a problem, but I'm just saying that like I'll hear a lot of strangers, babies.
Yeah. Um, and it's like you gotta just, you gotta factor in fatigue. Like there's times that I'm like, listen, when you're a dad, You're trying to come up with the laziest games possible, like , like I'm trying to come up with ways that I can play lying down and that he's gonna still have fun doing. Right? So I'm just saying this, this, this adds a little bit of complexity of like, oh, that's the 20th baby that cried.
At this thing that I'm already exhausted and on my like fourth drip coffee at, it's gonna be rough.
Aron: But if you get like really good high end like Bose noise canceling headphones and you're playing Metallica on them and you, you're teaching your kids sign language, you can start to get by with that if you like, can preempt where you're going with like earplugs and, and headphones and something.
Yeah. Right. You get the little in ear Bose noise canceling thingies. How quickly after
Sandeep: you hear the baby cry, do you have to perform the cartwheel?
Lindsay: Yeah. Can we just rack 'em up and do like 50 cartwheels at the end of the day?
Sandeep: Or is like just reasonable? Like if I'm driving in a car and then like someone happens to drive by and I hear a baby cry, like.
Do I have time to pull over, let's say
Aron: within an hour? Give you a little time to be safe. I feel
Sandeep: good about this. This isn't that much for me.
Aron: We are in such different places. What are you guys thinking? Do you have numbers?
Lindsay: I'm gonna have to fly private for the rest of my life because of this, because I really don't want, you know, long flights.
Things, weird stuff happens. So that's pricey. Fly
Aron: private on a, on a long jet so you can, oh, I guess you don't have to if there's no baby. But if you're watching a movie on that flight and you hear a baby's strangest, baby cry. No, no, no. That's so
Sandeep: far. Yeah. Oh yeah. How? And this is for life, right? This is for life.
What about when I just get so old that I'm like, physically can't even do a cartwheel anymore? Stay limber.
Aron: So it's okay. I'm getting a trainer, by the way. I have a trainer for life retained in here. I mean, my
Sandeep: plan is to, yeah, if I can't cartwheel, I'm, I'm kind of hanging it up anyway. I think. Okay. I have a number.
Go for it. Kick us off. I'm gonna go quarter mill. Ooh. Like it needs to be enough that I'm like, I could do something, do some damage with that, what I want more. Yeah, of course. But I think that's like the lowest I would go. Cause I think it's like, again, I really like cartwheeling. Really don't mind. It doesn't embarrass me.
All right. Lindsay, how about you?
Aron: I'm
Lindsay: just doing some math really. Let's do a, a mid-size jet to Paris. Oh man. They want my contact
Sandeep: details. You're really worried about this plane situation. Are you planes a lot like this is like a, you
know,
Lindsay: I hope that there's a time in my life where I can be on planes more, but I'm on planes enough.
I have enough travel for like, you know,
Aron: work and stuff. You do fly a lot. You do fly a lot. I do
Lindsay: fly a lot. The most, but you know, probably more than the average
Aron: American. Okay. So what's you thinking? 2 million
Lindsay: To make sure that I'm, I, I'm protected. Like if I have to do a cartwheel in the mall. That's
Sandeep: fine. I think you underestimate the cost of a private jet
I think so.
Aron: Dude, she's flying all month long.
Lindsay: Really? Should I go more, should I do $5 million?
Sandeep: I think you gotta, honestly, I think you gotta add a, if you want private jet money, like you gotta add a zero, just buy a
Aron: plane, Lindsay. And at that point,
Sandeep: maybe the cost of what, what are those like little, um, Were they sessna planes, like to learn how to fly yourself around, you know, I'm talking
Lindsay: about, or I could get, you could get like the like semi-private thing where there's like 10 people on a flight.
You know what I mean? And I could like have a rule of like, I can't be on a plane with a baby, I'm allergic or whatever.
Aron: With your little dog in your lap as you say that. Yeah, exactly. , right, right. So 5 million for you, five. Okay, I'm gonna say a million for me. I don't fly a lot, but as you know Lindsay, I had a bad snowboarding accident years back and I have a really bad back and neck injury that is getting better, but it's still, uh, a real issue.
So I don't even know if I can do a cartwheel without getting hurt anymore. So I would need to get some serious physical therapy to help me prepare to do cartwheels with. Injury and then have a physical therapist retained. So I think a million dollars helps me cover those costs plus, Everything else just in life and the grievances of having to deal with that.
Actually I'm gonna up it, I'm gonna say 1.75. I wanna cash the rest away for when I'm old, so I can have two really strong dudes around that. I can just snap my fingers, they come grab me and help rotate my body and the cartwheel. That sounds really
Lindsay: fun. I kind of
Aron: want that too. Yeah. Well at first it's at dudes, but now I'm trying starting to think of like maybe like one man and one woman each from those like body building competitions.
Cause I wanna just have these. Abstract Hulk like versions of humans around me, just to kind of be curious about, just look at 'em. Just
Sandeep: be like, For diversity sake. I think it's smart. Thank you. I like these numbers. Is is, is this sort of test though, to go like, all right, you said 1.75, but Aron, here's a million dollars.
Like a million dollars. You gonna say no to legitimately say no to 1 million?
Aron: I might turn it down only because I, I have such a serious injury that I navigate. I would need to make sure that as I age in life, I will have the support structure in place to help it not mess me up too bad. So I'm already factoring all that in.
So I actually am not gonna pocket, like I'd probably leave a lot of it in a private account just for that
Sandeep: purpose. Yeah. You're trying live off some like the interest kind of thing for as long as you
Aron: can. Yeah. I might take some sips outta that cup, but for the most part, that cup of coffee is staying. I like it.
Do you wanna hear what Franklin had to say about this question, or Jenna? First, uh, Franklin, let's do Franklin's. Franklin said $750,000 and said, I'm not around a lot of strangers, babies, but I do imagine doing a cartwheel on an airplane every so often will cause me some trouble.
Sandeep: There it is. It's a real thing.
The airplane scenario. I'm, I'm not even trying what I thought of that. If you didn't bring it up, honestly, so. Could
Aron: call and Jenna put 10 mils ski. Wow. And said, this will be a very quick way for me to make friends with all the moms at my daycare. There are a lot of stranger babies there, and I'd quickly turn into a gymnast if I don't start meeting all of them.
Yeah. Jenna knows what's up.
Lindsay: Okay. Wow. I love that. There's often times when our listeners say things that we didn't even think of getting to, but I feel like we're all very much on the same page on this.
Aron: Oh, all that in the kitchen, in sync with them. Speaking of sync and bathrooms and getting pissy, what's your
Lindsay: price to know that within your lifetime, five bathroom visits will become surprise escape
Aron: rooms.
I love this one so much. Five bathroom visits in your life
Lindsay: will become surprise. Escape rooms five. And you don't know when they're gonna happen.
Aron: So you go in to make potty and then you're, you're done and you go to turn the doorknob to leave. And then I gotta imagine something happens like do, do and like you start to realize there's like a key that you have to find through
Lindsay: puzzles.
I'm never just like going into the bathroom because I feel like whatever. I'm like, usually I'm like on a mission. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So can I, can I do that before I start trying to solve puzzles?
Aron: You're saying do, do you go potty first? Can I go potty first? Yeah. I think that's the idea is that they will be like, you go in there, the question says they'll become five of them in your life will turn, it will become surprise escape rooms, so you'll never see it.
I
Sandeep: have two very different numbers. One of them is if, have I been able to go potty? For sure.
Aron: Let's say yes, potty happens because otherwise the whole skate room thing, I dunno about you guys, but if I realize it's a skate room, I'm still going to turn around and go use the toilet. Yes, that feels
Lindsay: very important.
Sandeep: I'm just saying like, what if the toilet is locked? Like is part of the
Aron: escape? No, I think it's just to leave. I think it's to escape the bathroom. I don't about you guys. My number's gonna be relatively low. Mine's gonna be low too. But it's gotta be bad if like you're, let's say you're like somewhere for like a really important meeting with a big opportunity.
Yeah. You want to take a stress pee before maybe a stress poop. Right? And then you're like, oh. This like corporate office bathroom at this network.
Sandeep: Isn't that an escape room? Yeah. Or I'm, I'm pitching at Netflix and I'm in the middle of a, well, I would never go in the middle of a pitch, but yeah. Okay. Yeah.
But what if you go
Lindsay: right before
Aron: I own, be you guys? I always go, I always do a pre-pitch p basically, you
Lindsay: gotta plan your life around it. So you're like, okay, I gotta make sure that if I go to the bathroom, I make sure that like the last time I go is at least an hour before this meeting to make sure I can puzzle my way out of.
Puzzle game before I
Aron: go a hundred percent. It's only five times in your life. Like, like what if you're having a kid? And I'll do the man's side of it. Like, what if, you know, what if you're about to have a kid and you're like, I'll be right back. And then like, you miss the birth of your child because you're doing that.
Or as a woman, I guess, let's say go to pee and you're pregnant and it's about to be time and now you have to solve this escape room. When you're going, you know, you're going
Lindsay: into it, you're having a baby, you're trying to, and then you're not gonna be able to do a puzzle when you're having a.
Sandeep: So I, I don't know, to play the other, the other side of that is like, I kind of feel like I have enough bladder control that I would know that, and, and I've also like, held it long enough for big moments or time or road trips or airplanes or whatever, where I've like, it's been hard.
It's not been easy, but if I, if I know like it's gonna be the birth of my child or not at that point, then I think I'm. Gonna hold it or maybe just not go to the bathroom and just piss my pants if it's that important. Boom.
Lindsay: Diaper. Diaper that shit. If you need to.
Sandeep: Yeah, maybe I'll be rocking some Depends, you know that there's no shame at that point cuz So I feel like there's a lot of outs.
Yeah. If
Lindsay: you go to the bathroom outside, yeah, you're not going in a bathroom,
Aron: well then it becomes an escape room. Maybe you can't leave the outside until you solve the escape room there. So it's ev, you're fucked cuz it's a massive adventure in like that. That
Sandeep: changes things. So it's not just going to the bath, it's like anywhere you go to the bathroom.
Aron: Well, the question is, what's your price to know that within your lifetime, five bathroom visits will become a visit. So I gotta imagine. Okay. And also it's bathroom. It's not five rest, it's not five. Uh, urinary reliefs. Yeah. Yeah. Which would've been a weird way to structure that question, so I'm glad it wasn't Yeah.
So it has to be going into a contained bathroom. Five excrements. Yeah. I guess you just build, not even outhouse, but like, you gotta dig some pits in the backyard.
Lindsay: Yeah. But only if it's a situation where you know that you're, you're under a time crunch because you know that this thing could happen. But usually it's like, it's a diaper.
Let's go. You might, I might wanna try to go to the bathroom even more often so I can try to get my five outta the way so I don't have to worry about it anymore. You know what I'm saying? Right. Get 'em out early. I will never be more hydrated than when. Bored and alone at my
Sandeep: house. Let me say that again. I think I'm like pretty much holding it like I, I'm like my wedding, I don't think I really went like how many times I go to the bathroom, maybe twice or something.
I don't know. Were you
Aron: wearing a diaper then
Sandeep: also? I think in this case I would've, yeah, I think I would've just rocked the diaper just in
Lindsay: case. Oh yeah, I'm going full on wedding day dpi. Yeah. Yeah. ,
Sandeep: they can work, they can work that into the the dress and make that look elegant.
Aron: Oh yeah. Have you seen Phantom Thread?
You can. You can get creepy and fashionable real quick.
Sandeep: Here's the other side of this is that I love room escapes. Like love, love, love puzzles and room escapes. I love
Lindsay: them. I think they're so
Sandeep: fun. I'm crazy for them. So like to me, I'm like, okay, fine. I'm missing this meeting. Fuck it. Like at least I'm having fun.
Aron: and you're in there with people, like let's say you go to a movie and you're doing a pre-move pissy, and you then realize it's in there. There's like a bunch of stalls. Like you're stuck in this escape room with probably like eight other people now who also need to get to their movies. That's a bonding experience.
Or like at the airport, right? Your pre, pre-flight piss. I just love all these phrases with piss. Now you're stuck with like 10 people from different countries and you guys are working together to get out of there. So I
Sandeep: love that. I love the idea of like escape room bonding with strangers. I think the, the concern, now that I think about it, the fear would be like a really disgusting.
Like a really, like, you know, the ones that you're just like, it's like this gas station bathroom and you had to go and Oh my gosh. It's like absolutely disgusting diarrhea
everywhere.
Aron: Like a you're stop mid-state
Sandeep: interstate. Yeah. Or like, I guess like a port-a-potty situation at a campground that's like really not well kept.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Aron: But
Lindsay: also you could get really good, like all escape rooms. There are similarities. You could just do. Buck ton of escape rooms so you get really good, you know, all the tropes, you know all the things that are gonna happen. So that like, no, but
Aron: it might have to be at the bottom of the toilet.
Like if it's at like a park, like at a national park that gets cleaned once a month. Have
Sandeep: you seen slum dog millionaire? Yeah. You remember the scene where the kid goes through that through the port potty? I was thinking
Aron: about that. Yeah. It's one of the grossest scenes ever, but like, Yeah,
Lindsay: but no escape room would actually do that.
If you go to an escape room,
Aron: you don't know that Lindsay, they're building a bathroom into an escape room.
Sandeep: Yeah. They're gonna use every, all parts of the bathroom here. You gotta get, I mean, you don't think that one out of the five times, they're not gonna drop it in a toilet like a, a, like a clue in a toilet.
Lindsay: They're not trying to kill you. You could get a disease from doing something like that. You could get sick. And I don't think that the escape room gods are trying to make you sick. I think that this is a sanitary experience and I'm not sifting through poop. If sifting through poop is ever gonna be a thing that I have to do in this, there's no price.
Aron: Hold on. Lindsay, do you believe there are multiple gods that are all dedicated to escape rooms? Is this a theological belief that is a tenant of your identity? Maybe it is. I love that for you. Thanks us Hindus have a lot of gods. Do you have escape from Gods? Probably. . It's really cool. I don't see
Sandeep: why not.
That's really neat. Sounds like a Christiana thing to do. I'm just saying. He's very mischievous.
Lindsay: It's a very mischievous thing to do to to, to do this to someone. But I do think that there have to be rules within it. Like in any escape room, there are rules, like all the No poop, no poop. All the puzzles have to be solvable.
Like out in an hour, no matter what. You know, it's an hour. They come get you out if it's, if you don't get out before an hour, like there are rules like, like an
Aron: escape room. It's reasonable like an escape room. Cool.
Sandeep: How about this though? I, I still think the downside can be you're in a dirty bathroom. Like you don't have to touch the poop or whatever to solve the puzzle.
That floor there are sometimes, like you just, you're in a gross bathroom and I think that's still fair play for one of your five. I agree.
Does
Lindsay: anything jump out at you ever like a scary vampire guy that's like, oh, I'm gonna eat you Just kidding. Here's a, the light bulbs that you have to figure out where it goes or something.
I've
Sandeep: done a escape room where like people are playing a zombie the entire time. Yeah, I think a hundred. I hate that. I
Lindsay: did one where like there was a, a zombie on a chain and if you, every I did that one. 10 minutes that go by the chain gets on extra five feet.
Sandeep: Yes. Oh, that was so good. I thought that was such an awesome escape route.
It was in like
Lindsay: Pasadena or something. I can't remember where
Sandeep: it was. Ours was like downtown. But yeah, it was. That was great.
Lindsay: Scary. And I did another one where there were like people trying to get into the room and at some point they get in, if like they capture somebody, then it's over. But like you can like hear them and like they start like the door starts opening more and more and it was really actually genuinely scary.
I was like, we're
Sandeep: gonna die. Yeah. I did one where, There was like, at 1.1 of us had to go in this coffin and it closed up and it was pitch black in that, uh, no it wasn't pitch black. It was actually very sorry. It was very well lit in the coffin and then it, when it opened up on the other side, it was pitch black on that side.
And so then the, for the time for my eyes to adjust was like so long that I didn't notice that someone was like, the ring girl was basically just standing there. In the thing. Oh my
Lindsay: God, no. So by the time your eyes adjusted, you're like, no, no, no. .
Sandeep: Yeah. Uh, it was like the most terrifying thing. I was like this, but that was so, I was like terrified and then so impressed.
Yeah. On the escape room, people to like think that through, so
Lindsay: some of them are really scary. Some of the, like I did one that was just like a vampire's office, but nothing ever jumped out. It was just like a lot of like kooky, weird little
Sandeep: puzzles. Okay, so like, like vampire middle management? A little bit, yeah, actually.
Okay.
Aron: This is all on the board. For the rest of your life, there's gonna be five times that you, by the way, if you wanna get really shitty. I'm sorry. The question is, what's your price to know that within your lifetime, five bathroom visits will become a surprise? Escape rooms? Technically the question is, what's your price to know something
So it's not actually that happened, but I feel like that's not fair to use as a loophole, but it says, will. Okay.
Lindsay: Fair enough. Which
Sandeep: implies it will happen. Yeah, I think it'll happen.
Aron: Yeah. I dunno about you guys, but I would probably not need too much cuz it sounds mostly fun as long as you have like diapers and sanitizing wipes kind of like on the ready and maybe your car trunk at all times, just like kind of ready to go, which as a parent you probably do, but like I don't mind it that much.
I'm trying
Sandeep: to think through the anxiety of not like the, part of the reason why my cartwheel thing was low was because I feel like it's a quick, and I'm like, I'm, I'm over. Like I'm over the obligation very quickly. Whereas like the anxiety of being trapped in an out for an hour, you
Aron: have to accept it.
You have to case raw. This one,
Sandeep: you have to really reroute your life. So there's a little bit more of an inconvenience, I think. Yeah,
Lindsay: it's anxiety inducing forever. And then also think about this, you are in, I'm sorry to bring it back to the airport, but you're back in an. You're in a bathroom with 40 other people and then suddenly you're all stuck in there and none of you can figure it out.
You're stuck in there for an hour with 40 people and 40 people miss their flight because you've agreed to do this, meaning you will have to pay to change all of their flights.
Sandeep: They wouldn't. No, they don't have to know it's you though. There's no way that they'd have to know that, that that was your
Aron: fault.
It's true. You could do like a,
my
Lindsay: bad though. Like everyone walks out, they're like, that was weird. And you're like, yeah, so like, what was
Sandeep: that? Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's so crazy. That was insane. It's never happened
Aron: to me. , you could up your price a little bit just to factor in like a cash pool, just to kind of like reconcile with people who this affects.
So I'm gonna add that to the number I was about to say. So I was gonna say like three something. I'm gonna say $400,000 so that I can have a pool of like, like, let's say 30 to 50 grand that I have aside just for the rest of my life, to just kind of do little convenience payoffs for people whom this affects, if it's really bad, otherwise whatever.
But like, otherwise, I think that that covers a lifetime of like, it's only five times in your life. Like that's not, that's not gonna be
Lindsay: that. Yeah, but it's every single day of your life that you're anxious about it. No.
Aron: It's every day of your life that you're anxious about it. Yeah. Just being
Sandeep: like, okay, I got, I gotta think this through.
I gotta think this bathroom visit through. Yeah. But
Aron: you just choose differently and I think you get used to having to relieve yourself in places that are in your control. So like, if you're traveling, have like a something ready, so like you know, the bathroom at the hotel's fine, but if you're gonna go somewhere, pack your diaper.
I think I'm
Sandeep: gonna have to be off coffee. Legit , I think, I think, you know, diuretics are gonna be gonna be scary for me in general. Uh, and so that's gonna be a lifestyle
Aron: change. Oh, for sure. You, you do not want to have to go somewhere when you got Yeah.
Sandeep: So I, I mean, I think it's, I think it's a significant lifestyle change.
I'm gonna go 500,000. I'm gonna go half a million. I think a hundred thousand per event feels like I can justify like, all right, this is happening to me. Yeah, this is happening to me. I'm earning a hundred thousand dollars right now. That feels pretty good. I like that. And I feel like, okay, maybe that's worth it.
I'm almost looking forward to it, cuz I could use. The money kind of thing. So you
Aron: wanna be paid out upon each event. ,
Sandeep: actually, I'm like, why did I just put myself on a payment plan that was really stupid. Uh, no. I'd rather have the upfront so I can start accruing interest in investing the money. Of
Aron: course.
I just love the idea of you referring to these as as an event. So like you're like, be right back. I gotta go bathroom could turn to an event. . Exactly. It's my impression of you. You sound exactly
Sandeep: like that. That's like dead on. I didn't know that. I wasn't speaking. Yeah.
Aron: Lens. How about
Lindsay: you? Here's the thing.
I don't like anything scary. The escape rooms that I've been to like fucked me up a little bit. I was scared. I was scared. I didn't like, it caused me anxiety. I haven't been to escape room since the last one because it was so scary to me. Knowing that that could happen at any point, like suddenly, I'm, I'm thrust into it, what is essentially a haunted house that you can't get out of.
I don't want that, and I'm very afraid of it, and it would cause me immense amounts of anxiety for my whole life, and I don't want that. I'm gonna say to compensate for like mass meditation events I'm going to have to go to, and the therapy, the medication, the yoga, the all of the stuff to kind of like keep me a little bit even keel because of the anxiety I'm gonna say.
5 million.
Aron: Dang. It's part of that. To hire somebody who's like really good escape rooms. Just always be your friend to be your bathroom buddy. To
Sandeep: be my bathroom besty. I know exactly who should hire my friend Maria, but go ahead.
Aron: Great. She's hired. Gotta be so cool though. You go to like a fancy place where they have like one of those bathroom butler people and like suddenly they turn to you and they get to do like some limey thing with like.
Tons of clues inside of it. Like you just finish and they hand you the little towel and they're looking for tip, like that little tip plate out, and they give you a mint. And then they're like, Ooh, did you know that's 14 years ago? A mysterious death happened here? And you must solve it to escape. You just never know who's in on it.
I love that.
Lindsay: See, that sounds cute to me. But then, you know, I don't like the one where like the lights suddenly go off and they turn back on and you're surrounded by like, you know, dead girls that just came out of the.
Sandeep: Right, like an arm comes out of the toilet and SLS down and Yeah, that thing. Yeah, you don't want that.
Aron: See, but that might be nice that that could be fun. It's just like you never know when your bathroom visit will be a good story to tell and if you know it's gonna happen. I don't know about you guys, but like I might actually be in trouble cuz I'll never be surprised. So if I go to a bathroom and there's a serial killer who's like killing people in a public bathroom, I'll just let 'em like do their thing.
Cause I'll think it's all part of the game and not realize I'm about to be murdered. Oh, you're
Sandeep: basically, you become Michael Douglas
Aron: Kinda, yeah, except, yeah. You don't know when the danger's real or not. Love the game reference. Listen guys, speaking of references, you wanna hear reference about what Joe had to say, what Greg had to say for their price, Greg, a hundred thousand dollars for all Greg.
Greg says, sure. Not knowing when this will happen is an issue. Sure, one or two could be when I'm in my seventies or eighties, which would slow me down by, imagine the longest I'd be stuck. There is an hour general length of a paid escape room. I think overall this sounds like a unique experience. The real question is what happens if I'm in a public bathroom with other people when this.
We are all
Lindsay: very much on the same page. Yeah,
Sandeep: Greg gets
Aron: us totally. And then Joe put down $300,000 and said, I love escape rooms. This sounds amazing, and I would love to learn the production behind how the logistics would work. I guess I'll find out as I solve only taking a large sum of money in case one of these random escape rooms happens during an important event.
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Lindsay: This was submitted by Kryp, dod. Krypto, cool. Kryp out. Krypto to Crip, Todd. And the question is, what's your price?
To see a random deceased 16th century celebrity standing by the roadside, waving and giggling on your commute to work. If you try to take a picture or step outta your vehicle, they vanish. I'm not gonna step outta my
Aron: vehicle. You ain't stepping out if you see Michelangelo just smiling and waving to you on your commute.
Actually, we live, we live in la so that happens all the time. Right. I was gonna say. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I've seen weirder. Yeah. You could be going like McDonald's and see Leonard DaVinci, like with a grins Chinese theater. Exactly. So it's every day on your commute to work. Every
Sandeep: day on my commute to work.
Which I don't commute to work cause I live the writer, actor, director life. But okay. I get it every day. Every day I'm in the car.
Aron: Well, that still counts. Like I was thinking that too. Cause I work from home, so I have a home office. I, I think you do too, from what I'm looking at, but I don't know,
Sandeep: is my, is my commute to my, my bedroom, to my upstairs
Aron: office.
Yeah. So it's like you're walking through the hallway and you see like Copernicus, just staring at you. It gets to be like a haun. Yeah.
Sandeep: And does anybody
Aron: else see it? It says if you try to take a picture or step outta your vehicle, they vanish. So I gotta imagine that general sentiment is like, it's just you seeing them.
Okay?
Sandeep: I just wanna make sure like it's not like, you know, if we're gonna play the game that like it is in my hallway or whatever, then it's not also haunting my kid, cuz that would change my answer.
Aron: I mean, I'm bullshitting the answers here, but like that's, the person wrote that, so I gotta extrapolate and believe that they're, well, they said vehicle.
Yeah, let's adapt it. That like you're seeing someone waving and giggling to you on your, on your route to work, and if you try to like show evidence, they vanished. So it's got, I imagine it's more of like a haunting, it's like a creepy haunting any time you're headed to work. So
Lindsay: I'm imagining in my head, I'm driving and I'm like, oh my God, it's William Shakespeare.
You know what I mean? And I try to pull over, but if I see William Shakespeare and I'm like, you know, one day I'm like, whoa, that was, that looked like William Shakespeare waving and giggling to me. I'd be like, that's weird. And then the second day I'd be like, this is getting weirder. And by like the fifth day I'd be like, okay, I gotta figure out what's going on here.
And so I can like, I can pull over and I can say, Hey, are you by chance? Deceased 16th century celebrity, William Shakespeare. And then he'd be like, Yes I am. You know, and his
Sandeep: accent probably do an I am big tamina. Yeah, exactly.
Lindsay: I could still talk to him, but I couldn't document it.
Aron: Yeah, you gotta be careful though, cause it's, this is so dumb.
If it's Maia afe, you can't trust what they're saying. God, that was so lame.
Sandeep: Good point though. If actually knew any, Specifically 16th century people, then I would definitely jump in.
Lindsay: I'll tell you a couple. I got a list
Aron: going here. Yeah, I have a list open in a window here so I don't
Lindsay: just know. Here's some real standouts to me.
Mary Queen of Scotts. Ooh, Pocahontas. Oh my gosh. Elizabeth Badery. Do you know who that is? She was a serial killer who bathed in the blood of Virgin. Oh nice. Because she was very vain and she wanted to remain beautiful forever. That'd be creepy. Yeah. Ooh, that would be a scary one
Aron: to see. Like what if she had a great complexion and you were just like, do I need to be bathing in the blood of virgins?
Get any virgin blood. Elizabeth Noster Thomas of is of that area. So that'd be fine. Yeah. You can be like, Hey, am I gonna,
Sandeep: is the United States gonna survive the next 20? Don't
Aron: gotta be nore dames to know that one. .
Sandeep: Bam. A lot of kings, huh? Galileo. Did we say that already? Raphael, at least one of the Ninja Turtles.
Aron: Not all kings though. Martin Luther is here, but not Martin Luther King. No. Yep. It's different. It was funny to me. My, one of my friends would say it's uh, inside funny. Lot of mogul
Sandeep: empire emperors,
Lindsay: painters. Heavy on the painters too. Yeah, yeah. .
Sandeep: Okay. Right. I don't
Aron: know. But you guys, I would, I would be fine with this if like, if I get up in the morning, yeah.
Walk to the kitchen, make a cup of coffee, get a little cereal, walk back to my desk, and like on the way there, saw one of these people smiling, waving at me and I knew it was because I accepted, you know, 15 grand. Like I could probably get good stories out of them to like, If you could like host a podcast being like, I'll tell you know, I'm a mediums channeling famous historical figures.
People will like start to be like, wow, that's so much rich detail they have. Even if they're
Sandeep: crazy. You know what you could do? That would be so cool. You could hire one of those, you know, police sketch artists because you'd see these people and then you could like describe exactly what they actually look like.
Ooh. And then get these like, you know, super precise sketches. De Leone, and I feel like there's a lot of value in that. I
Aron: mean, people will think you're crazy or they'll believe you, so you're gonna eventually become a cult leader. You'll
Sandeep: be, yeah. But you could at least do cool TikTok videos and people will be really into it.
So you'll definitely go viral.
Lindsay: Yeah. You could be like, Hey guys, what's up? Just wanna let you know that I did run into Leonard DaVinci today and boys, he feeling himself like you could really. Make some fire ticks.
Aron: King Henry the eighth. Oh boy. That guy was thirsty.
Sandeep: He was thirsty. Or he had like thirst traps.
Lindsay: Literal
Aron: traps. I was amusing myself. You always hear of like, that queen is thirsty. I just wanted to hear about a king who's thirsty. Yeah. Yeah. I wish we had a cricket sound effect. That would've been a good
Sandeep: moment. I like the idea that like on bad days too, you could like swerve at them when you're upset and mm-hmm.
and there's no consequences to hitting a 16th century person. So maybe you could get some rage out Road. Road rage. You know what?
Aron: I'm gonna take the 15 grand. I don't need more than that. That'll be fine. That'll suffice for whatever it is, and I can make do with it and maybe come up with cool ideas with it.
Like as long, they're not gonna bother me. Like if I really don't wanna deal with them, I'll just like run to my room after I get my coffee and like that's the commute done. You're not gonna see 'em again the rest of the day. And if I'm driving somewhere, if I have an offsite office again, you just like, how would you even know that that person is that
Sandeep: person?
So, okay, I'm gonna play the game again where you go. All right. So 10 grand Aron. You're not gonna take 10 grand.
Aron: I'll play the game with you. I'll take 10 grand. Can they hurt you?
Sandeep: It's like, I'm, I'm trying to think of my lowest number, honestly, cuz
Aron: I'm like, like, it's just not, it's not a big deal. It's could be pretty damn low, but, well, it could go bad because it could drive you a little bonkers later on,
Lindsay: but you know it's happening.
You know what I mean? It's not like you're like, you're like, what is it? What is
Sandeep: it? Like? You're not tortured
Aron: by it. Yeah. You don't think you have schizophrenia or something like, you know what's happening,
Lindsay: but they can't physically manipulate. Matter, right? Like these are like proper ghosts that can't,
Aron: I'll make up a rule.
They can smell you and you can smell them, and that's it. I don't wanna smell them. I don't want to, I made the rule, the rule's here, it's not going away. Having to
Lindsay: smell. Smell a dead person.
Sandeep: They're not a rotting corpse. Yeah, yeah.
Aron: You don't have to. Do ghosts have a smell? This isn't
Sandeep: a ghost, isn't it? Like the person is materialized from that era.
Yeah. And let's
Aron: pretend that they're at their prime. Like they're, they're, they're at their hottest stage,
Lindsay: Lindsay. Yeah. But I think in the 16th century, people like notoriously smelled very bad. Yeah.
Aron: You're gonna have to deal with it. That changes
Lindsay: my price, if I'm honest.
Aron: Does it really? You're driving
Sandeep: by them like you're really worried about this.
Yeah,
Lindsay: but if I see William Shakespeare, I wanna have a conversation.
Aron: But you won't know it's William Shakespeare. Oh, I'll
Sandeep: know. And you probably will be willing to like deal with his halitosis to talk to William Shakespeare. I'm guessing. Look, I think
Aron: this sounds cool also. You're gonna be trying to talk to them and they're gonna be like wigging out.
You're like, you're William Shakespeare. He'll be like, what? These marvels around. Like he won't talk to you.
Lindsay: I'm his entry into this world. He's a curious man. He's gonna be like, you, you see me? And I'll be like, yeah, what's going on? And he'll be like, he'll like, what is this? And I'll be like, well, let me tell you about it.
Say
Sandeep: he'd be, say he actually where for art This? Yeah, exactly.
Aron: But wait, this gets traumatic because then when you tell 'em, well this happens, and you tell him about it, he's like, wait, so now you have, you're like, I gotta head to work. And you're like, well, great. He'll be like, So I have to die again when you leave for work.
Now, when you get back in your car, I will be dead again. Please don't go.
Sandeep: Here's my answer. No, no, no. You'll be fine. And then I'll just leave and then he'll die and he won't know any difference. Oh, that's like, why do I gotta suffer through his second death realization? This doesn't
Lindsay: say he can't get in the car with me.
Oh
Sandeep: shit.
Lindsay: I could take him to work. He could be my little work buddy. It's
Aron: true. There's also nothing saying he'll die after you disappear. Maybe we give him like a 24 hour grace period. Lindsay
Sandeep: Carpool buddy. Like huge bonus. Wait,
Lindsay: wait, wait. Bathroom
Sandeep: buddy. Bathroom buddy. For the other
Aron: thing. Oh my God. You're gonna solve bathroom puzzles with William Shakespeare?
Yeah,
Sandeep: just help. One of them is not a crying 16th century baby . Oh my God. My number is, I think it's, I think it's a dollar. I think it's, I don't think you say
Aron: nothing.
Sandeep: We accept zero. Yeah, I think zero. Cuz I don't think there is a number where I'd be like, no, I don't want, I'd be like, great, this sounds fine.
This sounds fun and fine and interesting. Like there's no, I don't think there's an inconvenience. I can drive past them if I don't have time. As long as
Lindsay: they can't murder me, I am, it's free. But if like it's Elizabeth Badery and she wants to put my blood on her, I mean, I'm not a virgin, but like if she, you never know.
That could be scary.
Sandeep: You're in the car, you're driving fast, then they're gonna disappear. Yeah.
Lindsay: But if I wanna talk to her and I'm gonna be like, Hey, you did, what did you, are you the famous serial killer from the 16th century? And then she'd be like, yeah. And then she would put, throw a pursue you. Yeah.
Throw a dagger into my forehead.
Sandeep: See, 1000 it. Yeah. chase
Aron: you. All right, Lindsay. Time to commit.
Lindsay: I'm making sure they can't kill me. Can they kill me? I
Aron: don't think they can kill you. I think they're just like an ethereal form present to interact with you and you can smell them. Zero.
Sandeep: And what if they could kill you?
How much if they can
Lindsay: kill me, oh, that changes the whole thing. That's
Aron: for every question though. That's also like the escape room person could kill you. Like now you're just
Lindsay: getting, wait, I didn't know that was part of it. Now we gotta go back to that question.
Aron: No, I'm just saying you're
just
Lindsay: like 16th century celebrities are notoriously unpredictable.
Aron: Be brave Lindsay. And commit. I mean,
Sandeep: you could just purchase a weapon if you're that
Aron: worried. Let's say you're safe. They're like an apparition. Okay? If they're an apparition
Lindsay: and they can't manipulate matter, then no money. I would do that for free.
Aron: So you guys with your $0 and me with my 10. Gosh. All right.
Do you want to hear what Gemma had to say or Felicity? Gemma.
Sandeep: Felicity.
Aron: Gemma. G E m m a. Gemma. Gemma, right. Felicity's up first at 15 million and says, this sounds terrifying. I don't do well in scary films and I think this would cause a lot of trauma. Jump. Scare. Okay. Felicity's feeling. Lindsay's vibes here with this one.
Could be. And then Hema says $15,000 and wrote, I think I would become desensitized to this and would just become a normal part of my day here and there. I'd forget and it'd scare me , but otherwise it'd be the same as passing the local gas station. Yes, I agree. Yeah.
Sandeep: I think it would scare you as much as like seeing kind of anybody on the highway when you don't expect to see like someone on the corner of the highway.
You know what I mean? Like, you know, you ever see like a biker on the highway and you're like, what are you doing here? This is insane. Yes. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think could be that level.
Aron: Fear, but they'd be like a ghost on one of those big bikes with a massive wheel and then the small wheel from there. A penny far thing?
Yes. Lindsay loves a penny far thing. I
Lindsay: love a penny far thing. Don't even get me started. Is that what they're called?
Sandeep: Yeah. Oh, I didn't know
Aron: that. Don't worry. They'll be back in fashion soon. Yep. Very practical. Listen, here's the deal. To wrap up the show, we like to look at what in total, each of us would've had to be paid to do everything today.
But here's the deal. I've never seen such a widespread between the three contestants. If we wanna be generous and call ourselves that Lindsay, it's crazy, right? It's like a big divide.
Lindsay: This time. It's a big divide. There's a lot going on. Okay, so Sunday it's looking like $750,000. Man,
Sandeep: I didn't make a lot of money on this.
No, you're
Aron: very affordable.
Lindsay: Did not ask for a lot. But you really put, you asked for the least. In my opinion, the person who asked for the least wins. It's golf. This is
Aron: golf. Okay. Fair. That was gonna be our show's name, but it was taken. This is, this is golf. Yeah, just golf with a question mark. , the masters.
Lindsay: Aron. You asked for $2,160,000 Feels right. And I asked for, Million dollars. Wow.
Aron: Wow. That is two weeks in a row. You are silver spooning the hell out of these things, Lindsay. I really
Lindsay: am. I don't know. I think it's just, you know, my solutions are costly and that's why my boss is mad at me all the time. .
Sandeep: I mean, I just think that these were mostly fun.
They were mostly fun curses.
Aron: Wow. Can you write a review for us as a guest? It was mostly fun.
Sandeep: I didn't mean the podcast. The questions. The questions.
Aron: Yeah. No, I mean, they weren't that, they weren't that bad this week. These were pretty fun, not harrowing. If people wanna hear you talk about things that go beyond baby cries, cartwheels and ghost escape rooms, what's going on?
What can they check out? How can they stalk you? All the things. What's your
Sandeep: social? I'm curious what their price would be to have to listen to me over and over again free. If they wanted to accept that curse, then they could go to, um, twitch.tv/f and Funny, which is E f I N. Funny, and that's my Twitch stream, uh, where we get into all sorts of silly things we have.
Our own comedy podcast coming up called a B c D. It's myself and Omer. Naja who are two personalities that are, we're both personalities. . That's great. We're both, we're both brown people and, uh, we want to talk, talk about being American born chatty da. That's what c d is they see is like the term for that, the sort of endearing term for, for what?
Indians and uh, south Asians call each other kind of thing. Countrymen, we'll be doing our show every Sunday at
7:30 PM live on Twitch, and then you can catch it on, on podcasts. And then if you just wanna follow me and stuff, it's at Sun Deep Paik pretty much everywhere. If you can spell it, then you deserve to be able to follow me is what I say.
I always like to challenge my the. I don't give, I don't give out Starbucks names. Okay? I, I say when I go to Starbucks, I say my full name and, and I force them to spell it correctly because I'm not thinking of myself. I'm thinking of the next sun Deep, no
Lindsay: teachable moment helps everyone. Let's
Aron: do it. Do you have a teachable moment you want to end the show on for somebody?
Is there something, someone out there needs to know?
Sandeep: Do more cartwheels. You guys just like get out there and get upside down. It's important, you know, kind of reverse the flow of your prana. Turn the world upside down for a little bit. Have a little fun. Stay active, man. Do we need some more empathy out there?
Love without remorse. Spread the love God. We need some more love and listening and caring and being kind to each. Could not
Lindsay: agree more. Well, we loved having you. Thanks, sun.
Sandeep: Oh, thanks. It was a pleasure. Absolute pleasure. This is super fun. What a fun format. Not just mostly fun. It was fun. Just straight fun,
Aron: right to the veins.
Well, that was a podcast pod blast. You know what I mean?
Lindsay: Oh, I've been shot out of a rocket all the way to Fun town.
Aron: Oh, I'm just snorting lines of sugar from how sweet that treat was. You know? What else the sweet making the show for you guys. You know what you love even more. You guys and how much you love playing along.
So come on over to human values podcast.com and help us come up with fun ideas. Send us who, what's your price questions, the whole nine yards. And make sure you share the show lens.
Lindsay: Oh, if you enjoyed today's episode or if you just like this little show we make, please tell your friends. We appreciate it more than we could ever say.
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Aron: Shout it out. We're your hosts, Lindsay Hicks
Lindsay: and Aron Rubin Qau.
Aron: Special thanks to our guest this week, sun Deep Paik.
Lindsay: Our lead producer is Rob Goldman. Our producers are Shahnti Brooke and Aron Reuben Korney. Our editor is Andrew Sims. Our engineer is Jason Porto, and our music is by Omer Ben-Zvi.
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