ABOUT THIS EPISODE
Count how many times someone asked how you were doing this week. Now count how many times you actually meant it when you said fine.
RAND's 2026 survey found that 55% of teachers deal with frequent job-related stress, compared to 34% of similar adults outside education. Forty-six percent said teaching left them too tired for a personal life. The teacher who said fine in September is often the one whose resignation letter surprises everyone in March. It shouldn't be a surprise. We just never got the real answer when we asked.
In this episode, Edward breaks down why educators are so good at performing okay, what it costs the people around them, and what one honest minute from a leader at the front of a room can actually do to a building's culture. He also gives you a better question to ask than "how are you?" — because how are you stopped being a real question a long time ago.
If the people in your building told you the truth tomorrow, what do you think you'd hear?
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If I can be very honest with you all, I'm gonna beat them anyways.
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I wasn't really asking, I was kind of telling.
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Most of us are professionals at saying that we are fine and we're not.
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Education needs people who are truly present, not just in the building.
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I'm Ember DeShazer, and welcome to Homeroom Attendance.
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Your C listen.
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What's going on, Pod?
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Welcome to Homeroom Attendance.
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I'm your host, Eber DeShazer, and today I am asking, are you present or are you absent?
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Let's begin.
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I want you to count something this week.
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Or let's go back to this last week and think if we can think through and count it.
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How many times count how many times someone in your building asks, How are you doing?
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And you answer, I'm fine.
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Whether it was in the hallway on those drive-by greetings, or you both blow past it, hey, how are you doing?
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I'm fine.
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You just both keep walking.
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Maybe it's the teacher's lounge, maybe it's the car line, maybe it's the staff meeting, maybe it's in the teacher's lounge where you're grabbing a cup of coffee.
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Now count how many of those times you actually were fine.
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We have built a whole culture in education around that one word.
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Teachers say it to each other, staff say it to the principal, the principal says it to the school board, the kids watch us all say it.
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RAN's 26, 2026 survey found that 55% of teachers deal with frequent job-related stress.
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For similar working adults outside of education, that number is 34%.
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And 18% of teachers said they were likely to leave their job by the end of last school year.
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So if you put those numbers next to each other, this means that someone in your building said I'm fine and didn't mean it.
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Maybe it was you.
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Maybe it was them.
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Maybe it was both of us.
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Um what I would like to do, pause here for a second.
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Uh it helps us keep in front of dynamic educators like yourself.
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But if I can be very honest with you all, I'm gonna be it in anyways.
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I wasn't really asking, I was kind of telling.
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Most of us are professionals at saying that we are fine and we're not.
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I want you to introduce you to someone.
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Her name is Miss Carter.
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Miss Carter is in her eighth year of teaching.
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She is the first car in the lot.
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She covers classes when a sub doesn't show.
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She is the one new teachers go to when they are drowning.
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Somebody passes Miss Carter in the hallway and they say, Miss Carter, how you doing?
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She smiles.
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I'm fine, blessed and highly favored.
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Everyone laughs, everyone keeps moving.
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Meanwhile, Miss Carter is sleeping five hours a night.
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Miss Carter is exhausted.
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Miss Carter sits in her car on Monday mornings for 10 minutes before she can even walk into work.
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And back in November, Miss Carter quietly updated her resume because she's exhausted.
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Nobody knows.
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And every time someone asks Miss Carter, How are you doing?
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She says, I'm fine.
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And every time that she said fine, they believed her because she was so good at it.
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So why do we do that?
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Part of it is who we are.
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Educators are caregivers.
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We are wired to take care of everyone else first, and admitting that we're not okay can feel like we're taking something away from the kids.
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The other part is that nobody wants to be the one who can't handle it.
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You look down the hallway and everyone else seems to have it all together.
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So you keep your face on too.
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What I've learned is that they're looking down the hallway at you thinking the exact same thing.
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And all these other people in the building are looking down the hallway at you like he or she has got it together.
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And we don't.
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News flash.
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The majority of adults don't have it together.
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Some of us are hanging on by a thread.
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Fine, the word fine, air quotes, for those that can't see me, costs you something.
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46% of teachers said their job left them too tired for a personal life.
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For similar adults, 13% that's only 13%.
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Fine at school turns into empty at home.
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And the people we love the most get whatever is left.
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How many of you have pulled into your driveway after school and just sat there, engine off, phone in your lap, quiet, no music for five to ten minutes?
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Those minutes in the car are what all those fines are adding up to.
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It costs the kids too.
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Students read us better than we think.
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When the adults in our building are pretending, kids pick up that pretending is the rule.
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Then we wonder why a student tells us everything is fine before everything falls apart.
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They have learned from watching us.
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Our kids at home have learned from watching us, pretending that everything is fine.
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The teacher who said fine in September is often the one whose resignation letter surprises everyone come March.
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That's Mrs.
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Carter.
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It shouldn't have been a surprise.
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We just never got the real answer from her when we asked.
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Blessed and highly favored, dear.
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We all know that teacher that says that.
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But is that actually where they're at?
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Yes, we may be blessed and highly favored, but fine is not fine if you're not fine.
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I want people to understand that I can't, or I want you to understand that I can't change your schedule from behind this microphone.
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But you control more of it than you may think.
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Start by changing the question that we ask.
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How are you?
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Is a greeting.
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Nobody treats it like a real question, so nobody gives a real answer.
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It's just like our default.
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You get an elevator, like, hey, how are you doing?
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Hey, I'm I'm fine.
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How are you?
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Like that is just it's like a salutation for us.
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So try something more specific when you're walking past teachers.
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Ask them, you know, what has been the heaviest part of your week?
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Were you really on a scale of one to ten?
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Sometimes we have to ask the honest questions so we can get the honest answers from the people that are around us.
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A specific question tells the other person you actually want to hear the answer.
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Try asking what's something you need right now that you haven't asked for.
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Then wait.
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Don't feel a silence.
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The first answer is probably gonna be nothing.
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I'm good.
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And stay there for a second longer.
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Because that second answer that comes after that is usually the real.
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Then give one person the honest answer.
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A few episodes, maybe three or four episodes back, talked about you are doing enough.
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I talked about us finding one person who gets the honest version of us every single day.
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This is where that pays off.
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You don't have to tell the whole staff lounge that there's a challenge.
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You just need that one person in your building.
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And when that person asks, you have to tell them the truth.
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Now let's talk about the entire building because this can't rely on one good listener in the hallway.
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It has to be built in how our schools feel and how our schools run.
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If you lead anything, maybe it's a grade level team, a department, a whole school, whatever it is, maybe it's just your classroom.
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You have to go first.
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People won't be honest with you until they have watched you be honest with them.
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So I want you to picture a principal at that October staff meeting.
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Before she touches the agenda, she says, I want to be honest with you all.
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This month has been difficult for me.
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I've been taking work home, I've been short with people that I care about, and if I've been short with you, I am sorry.
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Then she sits down, the entire room goes quiet.
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And then after the meeting, over the next couple days, a couple teachers stop, a couple people and staff members from building stop in her office.
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Each one of them has a version that sounds like, I've been feeling the same.
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So one honest minute in front of an entire room gave everyone else permission to be honest and a space to say, your feelings are validated.
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Your honesty can be, can be um safe here.
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We are here to support you.
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Open your team meeting with a two-minute round where everyone answers one real question.
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Nobody fixes everything.
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We are just listening.
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If you're not in charge of that meeting, you can do this with your grade level team or at your lunch table.
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And when someone finally gives you the real answer, we have to stop trying to rush to fix it.
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Just say, thank you for telling me.
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As educators, as people, oftentimes when people have a problem, our initial instinct is that we have to fix and solve that problem.
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In this moment, I'm not asking you to fix it.
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I'm just asking you to hear it and acknowledge.
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Thank you for telling me that.
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A building where the adults can tell the truth about how they're doing is a building where the kids can too.
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So this week, I want you to notice when you say fine, even though you're not.
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And I want you to notice when you hear it, because I guarantee you you hear it multiple times a day and we don't even realize it.
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And then I want you to pick one person to ask that better question to.
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And here's where I'll leave you for this episode.
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If the people in your building told you the truth tomorrow, what do you think that you would hear?
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And the follow-up question is what would you tell them?
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If this episode landed for you, uh send it to someone in your building, share this with an educator, um, like, subscribe, leave reviews.
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Again, that always gets me up an algorithm for more educators like yourself to find us.
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But I am encouraging you if you're not doing fine, stop telling people that you're doing.
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Thank you for spending this time with me.
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You have been present for homeroom attendance.
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Class is dismissed.