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[SPEAKER_00]: It's what we're here to talk about today, but there's a bit been going on around the show as well, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as well as outspotters is also other new works with homes and integrations that came out in the past month.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think there's been three, which I was expecting like usually the trickle was like one month.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, let's bear more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just even like one whenever a couple of months, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this has just been bam, bam, bam, bam, it's time around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they do take some time, like when it's a works with home assistant, partner, like Miranda and the team, they're actually physically testing the products, this company offering to make sure that they actually are up to a certain standard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're not just slapping that works with home's badge on anything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first one out of the gates is Zon Zon B, which is switches, which use Zigbee, and I probably put should the pronunciation of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Baga, I was a bigger, because we have a...
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[SPEAKER_00]: beca cheese down here in Australia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a gem brand for Zigbee smart lights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I whilst say they are actually really nice looking Zigbee lights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got some great garden lights after all lights as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So to check them out if you're in Germany or can access their products.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and sensoro, smoke alarms and carbon block side alarms, they are now in home assistance, which I do like their packaging as well, we've saw the guys from sensoro at CES, they're kind of enough to give me one of these, I've clearly sit in the box, I get to set it up, but that's now which we get into the release in a minute, there is some good changes that's going to support that thing for me, so that will be on a wall in my house soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were really nice to meeting with those guys, so that was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And not quite a works with partner, but their new collaboration partner of the OHF at Open Home Foundation is open display.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm personally excited for this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a, I finally received a e-ink display that I've been wanting to play with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I ordered it in like, end of February.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just got it like two days ago from seed studio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like what, end of May.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they were just pretty backed up on it, but I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to play with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to try, you know, just doing some color-y ink postery kind of thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know like in the announcement for this collaboration with Open Home Foundation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the Merchants like, you know, Seeds Studio have a whole bunch of stuff ready to go, so
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and this had just had nothing to do with I didn't have any prior.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll let you just happen to be great diving on, on... Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the time for this arriving and the integration there, so...
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, have you actually like, what have you received?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is it just like, bad parts?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it something that you can plug in right now and turn on?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what have you received?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's boxing front of me, so it's just a single box here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I think it came in a bigger box, but...
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[SPEAKER_01]: in there that's a an HMI driver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a sensecraft HMI there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing a full YouTube unboxing thing and I don't have a lockdown camera so it's gonna not be that great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also comes with the cables and the actual display itself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is actually very thin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's super thin, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a pretty large, you can see how thin it is there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a pretty large display.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to have to assemble this altogether, like put those parts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Connect them all up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a pre-made bundle with a frame and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was just like, now I'm going to try it myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And...
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and I believe it is ESP32 based, which is perfect because they can see a little.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the open display project, because it's pay based, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be able to use Bluetooth Proxies to shoot around images, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it acts, yeah, so you can push it to Bluetooth, and then it can also act as a Billy proxy there as well, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it being on the walls almost like a hidden Billy proxy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing I didn't get, and I was going to get afterwards, is a battery just for obviously powering the device.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to get that an Amazon, or maybe I'll express myself until I'm back, but that should be a lot more available than this one, so it's a USB 32S 3-based controller.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's your grand plans for the end display?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you hoping to put on it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I was just growing for Instagram a day and I saw it and I was like, I do want to play with these, it's like, yes, it was really impulsive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have plans for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll probably put it up on, you can't see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But my wall next to me on the right side of me, as I'm sitting right now, just, I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: posters or just even like some art of some kind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we go, I mean, the thing is these these displays aren't on cheap rates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are quite expensive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this whole package cost me like $200 in something US dollars.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And is that color or just black and white?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is color.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is color.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is color.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's normally, I know the ones that the ones we saw from Switchbot, for example, Feldos ones are like 400 in something box, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, so I figured it's cheaper at DIY at myself, the Switchbot ones are nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I know, I, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't always have the nicest things to say about switchbots product strategy, but their screens are nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we got to see them at the E.S.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this year and I think Shane, what we just released a video on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, you know, there's some cool things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather, I like that, I want to learn a little bit more, but just kind of stuff and some of something I've always worked with, so I just picked a bullet and then it took forever and here we are, so, and now we have an integration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I know Ian gives something, I've, I've always just loved the look of for highlighters, it looks nice, I'm always on very power efficient, it would be great for like a weather dashboard or something
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the only analog clock I have and a lock, a clock I have in the house is an Amazon Echo walk lock that updates itself through the Amazon Echo, but I like being able to look at that clock and see the time, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be cool to have like a display that's not a screen, right, that's showing the adverts or flicking things over, that I could just look at and see what's on the calendar for today or what's the weather going to be, you know, it's going to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: like that is perfect use for ink.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I figured one of the things I could do is if let's say, I don't know, like, I want to learn on something hate door is open or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can always have it switch to something like saying, hey, door is open or even if I wanted to rotate between an image and maybe a dashboard of some kind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, again, I'm not sure quite what's going to come from it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you care to follow, I'll throw up dates on air, but I'll probably start working on it in this week or next week and finish it to God who knows when.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He will never be finished, never gets finished, that's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Open Home Foundation have released their first peer-reviewed paper on the smartphone, which I think this is actually pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's titled building a smartphone, sorry, building a private smartphone, using motivations and challenges.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was authored by Anika and Paulus from the Open Home Foundation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it all from the open home validation that went to Barcelona to present the paper in April, I was April all May.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Really cool that, you know, this is one of the other things that the other side of that never cost a subscription that we don't necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: talk about enough, you know, we're always about the shining new things in home assistant and the new products and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is actually, you know, behind the scenes, uh, Anakin, it'll, like, PhDs, um, they're very qualified.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, this is, uh, now peer reviewed paper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: about the smartphone, and not only with just my homes, but privacy in the smart homes, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I think this is just like a fantastic for the OpenHound Foundation, and everyone's supporting the OpenHound Foundation, including people supporting over Casa, being able to push the smartphone in the right direction and getting attention around it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, congratulations to everyone that has been working on that at OpenHound Foundation, that is fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm in had a chance to read you have it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of, yeah, I do want to go through it at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, talk about some feedback from some previous episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so comments on YouTube, for example, we had goose bite.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was looking forward to RF and home assistant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just used ESP home to implement a rudimentary raw RF repeater for those old 4033 megahertz wireless outlet switches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't find a reliable way to recode, so I got close to reliably reading the buttons of whatever devices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: using RSE switch raw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've got some folks that are actually starting to come up, play it, come and play with those new RF features that were released last release, I believe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, RF, I think I've mentioned it before, but I have some semi-smart blinds around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they have RF on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope them up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the before this way before,
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[SPEAKER_00]: got the prod link RM Pro, because I thought, you know, they've got Zigbee and then but sometimes Zigbee, they'll just drop off the Zigbee networks or thought, you know, I can, as a backup, I'll just send the RF command.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, they must use a rolling code or something, because initially, the pliers will respond in the right way, and then,
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[SPEAKER_00]: eventually that button press event will stop working.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully our home is isn't doing handling the RF sending and we'll be able to manage the rolling codes and all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my hope in the way home is going to do RF.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's nice to you because it opens up a lot of opportunities for folks to DIY these kind of things before you kind of need it to rely on one of like two bridges that existed out there right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, you can start building your own hardware and closing it how you want that kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In the last episode, I mentioned my home assistant instance going down, well, as I'm holiday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of comments and I appreciate every one of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave had his own disaster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My home assistant went down a couple of weeks ago when I was on a short break.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had no network, no cameras, no weather station, no alarms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, a couple of days short.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And found the reason it was the power monitoring smart plug that monitors power usage on the network for home assistant had failed in an open state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So everything on the network was lost.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the sixth smart plug that has failed for him in the last two years with several different brands, one failed into a state where it switched on and off every second, which destroyed his UPS.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's seriously considering no longer using smart plugs and certainly not for a single point of failure They I know I've think of a few episodes ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did have I think I was still I think I took it off for this reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a smart plug on my psychology nurse, which is just over there And I would randomly I one day the office just hit all off in the office and it's just everything flashed out
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard a lot of people I think when wemo devices were very successful to when you have the energy monitoring part of those devices like they were just for whatever isn't invented they'll fail I've no I've got
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[SPEAKER_00]: energy monitoring on my fridge, which I actually put extra automations and checking to make sure that the fridge is drawn down at least some energy because I am worried that that smart switch will fail and my fridge will turn off and spoil all the food.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think
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[SPEAKER_00]: Smotswitches, particularly with energy monitoring, can become a point of failure over time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the way to get a five-year warranty on these things, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think, you know, there's something to be said about maybe not everything needs a smart switch, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, again, in NASA, just typically a device you don't want to turn off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't maybe necessarily want to have a smart switch on there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what you
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think talked about it in some episode that where you can get like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: is a smart switch, but it's not really an honor if all it does is actually just... Yeah, so... Atom, smuff him, make them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do believe that there is the potential that they could have the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the relay that's the issue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the metering that can get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could be kind of maybe I've read someone's comment that's completely wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yet my understanding is that they may not even...
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[SPEAKER_00]: like you may just wake up and that things don't give him power anymore, even though just have a real unit, it could be wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, again, just, yeah, sometimes it might be, you need to tap into the energies for some other way, rather than just using.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Always put CT clamps on everything, alright?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a few suggestions based on my home is going down up to use a KVM.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nathan suggested looking at JetKVM.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Nathan, thank you very much for that suggestion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's anything I am going to get around to at some point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So JetKVM is like a little device that...
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you might know more than it's right, I literally just started going down this rabbit hole now and I was like, oh, I didn't know I knew this in my life, but now I do like so yeah, basically can check is the host up, you know, I can ping and I think you can absolutely like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think it's on the keyboard as well?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Check KVM looks cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will have to eventually get by one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a couple of options.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a Jet KVM.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're pretty slick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's a tiny little KVM device.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't know, KVM stands out, it's keyboard video mouse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Essentially, it's just a remote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: remote way to connect to your instance raw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So instead of going in, physically being in front of it, like in a monitor and plugging a keyboard and plugging a mouse in whatever, you can just, you can just do it through a web page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can move around and click and type and do all that stuff which is actually happening on the machine physically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that actually emulates those kinds of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, I don't I don't have a connected to my home assistant instance But I could move it if I want to but it's it's just it's a great great little device and there's PyKVM 2 I think is another
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so there's a few options.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just all at the end of the day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're IPKVM.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you've ever watched those movies where somebody walks into like a major data center and they pull out a drawer and then flip up a monitor and start typing, that's the old school KVM.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now IPKVM is that, but IP, so you don't need to, you know, Iraq device that's, you know, jump in through eight different terminals, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that's the idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And JJ, you'll see on Spotify, we were talking about self-hosting in one of our previous episodes, and they're using a service called Jotta Cloud for their backups.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They can get unlimited storage for a hundred and nineteen euro per year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just Googling this before we started on the call here on mute.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it looks like it's a personal unlimited backup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They speed limit you after five terabytes of data for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's at 119 US when paid annually so yeah 119 euro US wherever you are Yeah, it would be a good deal if you're a self-hostro and have a whole bunch of data.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to back up somewhere Yeah, yeah exactly I think that's pretty cool
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's talk about some new features.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Infrared, which is also a new addition to homelessness in there, can now receive IR.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the initial integration landed today, or I guess that time of recording, that's for LG TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now, homelessness can read your IR code
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with LG, and then when you have them press to turn off, we're trying to get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So infrared can now, let's go see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the infrared features was in homosystems and can now receive IR.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the initial configuration that lines today is for LG TVs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what that means is now homosystem can read IR codes from your remote controls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with LG, it can see that you've pressed to turn off your remote control to mark the TV as off in homosystems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can do a little bit of a sink there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's still no learning mode though, so it's going to be difficult for some IRR or our device that needs to send multiple commands.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, it might not just be a single zero for off one for off and kind of thing or one wonders or whatever it looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be a sequence of different types of commands, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to do that, it's still a little challenging today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you got to remember like the air conditioning from our controls, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they are, they sent IR, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they send the whole state of that IR remote.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So all its timer settings, the mode settings, that all has to be blasted out to the aircon over infrared, every time you press a button.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, just being able to get those devices, that's tricky, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, there's no learning mode, it's not a complete package there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, with this release, I think LGTVs can now be integrated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you've got LG web are where you can use like your Wi-Fi connection.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can now control it with an infrared proxy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also serial ports if your LGTV has one of those RS-2-2 ports on the back of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can also control it with that, so that's like three different ways to control one brand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a bit biased here because I have an LGTV, but I really do like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: LG has those options, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also a fan of LG because they also have their own integration in home, so there was a community hacks integration and now LG have come to the party and started doing an official integration on home as well through their APIs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So could also LG here, like this isn't something we general is too much of and it's great that there's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that also brings in for diversity of different types of TVs, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, like ours, 232 is a great example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you have a more industrial style TV.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Great, you can do that right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also speaks to kind of flexibility here of homelessness in itself, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, which allowing you to do that, so that's pretty cool there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's now a new flow for adding items to a dashboard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're adding new items previously, you would click the ad card on the dashboard editor and you'll be a good select what card you'd like to be put on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's best you could also have the option to go by entity or by device, like you've choose the device first and then choose the card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is now the default.
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[SPEAKER_00]: way of doing things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you'll click Add Card, it will ask you what device do you want to add to your dashboard, you click the device or the entity, and then it will prompt you what style of card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you might have a light card, and then it will go like a mushroom light card, just a state card, or how would you like to put them on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think this is for non-technical users, like a lot better, it just makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know what I want to put on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't necessarily need to sort through the type of guide I want to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're like me, I like to look at the cards and see all the examples.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that looks cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could put that entity on that sort of card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can still do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just on the other tab.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Matter can now onboard the new devices or BLE proxies, so that's pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the matter integration can now act as a Bluetooth bridge for the Matter server, so devices that only expose their commissioning infrastructure interface over BLE can now be paired when a server itself has no Bluetooth adapter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, be home, Bluetooth proxies can't do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have a new matter device tucked away in the garage or something like that, it can be onboarded through another proxy device somewhere else in the house, which was relatively close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what's interesting is I didn't really if you actually couldn't do this today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've only got a couple of matter devices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Functionally you would actually support that, but yeah, I thought I was talking to you with the phone, but you know I don't, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Matters still confused me, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think, yeah, I think on the phone it uses your phone to do it, but not through like on my laptop, for example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Going to the UI.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mentioned before, when we talk about Siren's, are now available on matter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So matter Siren's, like Smudge Tech does, that double as a louder alarm, then I expose as a proper Siren entity within Home Assistant, which you can then switch on and off from Automation's and of course dashboards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so a little bit of updates on media players and weather cards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on our previous release episode, we talked about the new weather tile card features.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So those actually didn't end up making it into 2026.5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now they're here with some extra tweaks for the amount of rain and color gradients for temperatures.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on the media player card, there's now some extra buttons, including mute and shuffle repeat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let over to love for those guys there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: specific triggers and conditions is getting very close to release.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're being told, so coming out of labs and becoming available in all homelessness instances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been no updates on any triggers or conditions for this release, but there have been some tweaks around the place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also been some new terminology released.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So when setting up target devices, you have control over when an automation is triggered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there is now each, which will trigger once for each time one of the targets is set.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's say you have two lights that turn on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The automation will be triggered each time one of those lights turns on, which if both lights turn on would be twice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first trigger option will trigger the automation when one of the devices changes states, but not again when a second light turns on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and all will only start the automation when all targets in the trigger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in our example above, we had when light wanted to, but they're both turned on, the automation will trigger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also been some great work done on documentation around all of the purpose-specific triggers and conditions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The goal here is that every
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[SPEAKER_00]: condition every trigger has its own dedicated page with examples which of course then your local friendly AI can read and make that even better for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also about this later but your purpose for suit triggers I'm really excited by.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've already seen like just now that this has been laid out like these trigger options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are some cool automations you could do, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, they're going to need to have just like conditions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You could have, yeah, like wait for all of these triggers to happen and then far, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Could be some exotic automations coming out, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's going to, I don't know, this is opens up for options for more kind of automations or easier automations or more long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of automations, it's called it, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because like, all right, we're no like having to do like trigger an automation, but only wait for all these conditions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You would have to have like all of your triggers and conditions like they're basically like duplicated or I remember back in the day, they used to be a condition that was on all triggers or something, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is a like almost a homage back to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was removed a long time ago, and then you had to go in and go, ah, now I have to go and add all of those triggers as conditions because I can't just do a shortcut anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's potentially bringing that back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the automation editor got some love to so now it's easier to see how many devices your automations will target so for example if I say if I'm an automation that turns on the lights and I say upstairs or I'm looking at upstairs I can see which lights would trigger that automation and how many of those were there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Conditions will also denote with a little green dot if a condition you've added is currently passing or true So that's nice too, so you can kind of see the current state of of that and If you're building any complex automations, you can also add notes inside your home It's which I think is a great get the half of that go back and I was like, oh, what was the logic?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I always think it'd read through it and like you have to stumble through it a little bit
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll just be easier, so there's a little comment in there, so if you're a coder by trader, even just for fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's similar to having comments and there's a few myths having comments in your automation, you've got the back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The app's list, there's been a nice little refresh on the app's page with now highlight the running setters and when updates are available as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's lots of you are tweaked there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Energy Dashboard, so you can now rename energy sources on the Energy Dashboard and expose an entity which denotes when your home battery is charging, for example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Z-Wave, the ZOM, I'm really excited for, the locks now get credential management.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's similar to the way it matter works.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pin and password locks are supported.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can also make them time-based.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to add them, delete them, etc.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Get very cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have two Yale locks integrated with a Z-Wave chip inside those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm looking forward to getting into the needy-gritty of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually did look at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So on my lock that I have, I've actually put some pin codes in on the lock itself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those aren't exposed in the credential manager, but they do exist.
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[SPEAKER_00]: as profiles on the network, maybe as we're using the codes, they'll come in the credential measure and maybe need to check that out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, there was one credential that I do know I have an automation set for that home assistant does manage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So before you had to do it from the Z, we have level, is that, is that the... Yeah, so we have to do a call service entry actually, I haven't done it in the...
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[SPEAKER_00]: The go animation, yeah, but you'd have, like, in an automation, you would basically go set, enable this lock profile or use a profile and set the code to this, and I would have to use a home assistant secret, sorry, a home assistant input.
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[SPEAKER_00]: text helper with the pin code for that person or that type of code so that I could then reference it in an automation because you can't use the secrets directly in or at least when I wrote this, you can do it directly in the way I was doing it so I had to do a whole work around to get the code into a home assistant that I could then then trigger by an automation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just think, yeah, more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go out, but now it should be easy with the credential manager right now because there's a whole UI fork just yep clean a day today and able that code away you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sonos now has search in the media player browser.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A really battery-powered cameras, so previously before the 2026.6 release, her assistant would have a tendency to wake up those battery cameras and drain the batteries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this has been fixed, so if you do have battery-regulant cameras and wondering why the battery life isn't so good, maybe her assistant is the culprit here, so definitely think about upgrading to the 2026.6.
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[SPEAKER_01]: two years got in a lot of love and homelessness starting to work on kind of a two-year quarks library.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So similar to how Zigbee has quarks for all the different types of Zigbee devices.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Similarly, they're doing one for two-year where there's different variations with different dialects and stuff that they can use.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's handy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, two, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you do a cattle from two brands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Both of them are two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the back end, but they are completely different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think the Quicks library is a good way to handle this, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we've had to do this many a time with Zigbee devices across manufacturers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're doing it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's enough of them out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's enough to utilize them out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes them to do that, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if anthropic haven't blocked you from integrating your Claude subscription into home assistant, Claude conversations can now support the web fetch tool, which will allow the model to retrieve and reason about live web content.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jewish calendars now exposes a calendar entity which is perfect for tracking Jewish holidays and Shabbat and those kind of things in your dashboards and automations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we did meet with Sv at I think it was episode two or one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Around him and why he created this component.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So give that one a shout.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Give that one a look.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or I listen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are using control for in your smartphone, that now supports motorized window treatments through a new cover platform for control for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like seeing things I can fall for in Like I know it's another ecosystem that it's nice to open it up and like integrate into the home assistant Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, even you might have done in your home whatever from maybe a previous owner, maybe you put it in and do one of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have other stuff that you want to get in and create it and do it and don't want to necessarily pay And integrate it to do that every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and if you are looking for some options or if you are looking to upgrade a smartphone, you really can't go past the Zeus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got their 800 series as that wave long-range power strip, the Zen 2800LR, so you can turn a single outlet into multiple individually controllable smart sockets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can drop it under a desk, but hold your TV unit or ring your server rack to tame all those always on gadgets, and still monitor and automate each outlet separately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's perfect for things like network gear, charges, lamps, again consoles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anywhere you want more smart control without adding a bunch of separate plugs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Zeus are also a works with home assistant partner, and they've been helping Nabikasa by providing long-range devices to test the home assistant connect ZWA2 radio.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know you're in friendly hands.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Beyond that power strip, Zeus offer a full range of affordable, innovative gear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's thesmartesthouse.com.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about some new integrations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's 16 new integrations this release and here's some of the highlights.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So LG TV via serial, finally, we're just talking about this, but you can now control your LG TV locally, over the built-in RS232 serial port, if your TV has one, works through a direct serial cable, a USB to serial adapter, or any USB home-based serial proxy that just gives your reliable connection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it works even when your TV is on standby,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just even if it's powered off that way and as long as it's powered to it should be working.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially if you have an older TV that doesn't have any smart features and I've talked about this before as well commercial signage displays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you inherit one of those kind of TVs, maybe you got it for cheap or something like that or for free.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, sometimes they don't easily integrate with remote controls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have an old NEC digital signage TV, same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't integrate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a cool, cool way to do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it have a nice service that is reported out there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: most most commercial TVs do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if it's a standard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing it's not going to be a standard, but I'm guessing you'll be waiting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you glee awaiting the day, any sea, displays or added player?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, in my case, I gave it away, so it's, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you'd like to know this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have, I had one, but it's, yeah, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or Maranx, if you have a Maranx amplifier with you can now control it with any infrared transmitting you have, this infrared in-home is is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's built on top of the infrared entity platform, so that's a whole new integration now built on top of the infrared.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at a platform that we've just introduced into home assistant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think there's going to be similar to when home assistant came out with the Bluetooth proxies with all of a suns are like an explosion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all these new generations coming out that we're just Bluetooth devices, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think now that we've got infrared here, there's going to be a whole bunch of new integrations that are just going to be purely based on infrared.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great thing yeah, and and you know speaking of Samson TV's are also now part of that infrared love a little bit there
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you've got it in homelessness, if you've got your intro intro controller in our transmitters, sorry, in homosistent, I can have start controlling your Samsung TVs, and your Moran Samp's in one system, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have any AI dot Wi-Fi smartlights, they can now be controlled in home assistant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is now a new integration, but on this point, there is no cloud connection requirements, it's all local.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sentry Connect or my propane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can now monitor your propane tanks in a home assistant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Connects to a cloud service and reports back the level and yeah, at least that way, you know how much propane you have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A don't somatic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have wood and pellet heaters, which can be integrated into home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is now what's again all locally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what sensors they expose.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just to see what I should check out the documentation on that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wood and pallet heat is now in time assistant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mitsubishi comforts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have their ductless, Mitsubishi electric ductless mini split heat pumps and air conditioning systems, you can now bring those into a homocystin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It actually talks directly to each indoor unit over the local network, so it's actually pretty quick to control.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it does use the Kumo Cloud account, I guess, as what it's called.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just an initially discovered device and get credentials for that device, so that it can actually securely talk to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: talk today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How far there is this song?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't hate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's yeah, it's that's why, but you know, it's better than not having it in their at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yoto is something that I didn't know existed for a while, but I wish I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yoto can show you Yoto audio players from home assistant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can play and pause cards, change the volume, skip, and seek tracks, and see what is currently playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The integration talks to the official EOTO cloud over O2 and receive playback updates vote over MQTT.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So changes that happen on the player show up in home assistant almost immediately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: From my understanding, EOTO is a little, since I have for children, it's a little box we can buy NFC cards essentially, kid puts the card on the EOTO player and it plays the song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: something that I think you could do with home assistance and not have to buy a Yolo advice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm just a little bit of a judgment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Prosperate Day, and to be fair, he does like the device, but it is not cheap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was like a hundred bucks or something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got it on sale for those little mini one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And every time you want to get more of these cards, it's like, I don't know, 15 to 20 bucks, every time you want to get these NFC cards to stick in the little unit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I had it with me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have a box for,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the jacket that we use in the one we got looked something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I disliked this device on principle, where you know, I'm, I have to pay every time to, you know, pay every time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like a month of this subordinate to like, die, you buy it once you get it, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if they choose to kill their service, then guess what, you don't do no longer have access to these sums and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that what works is that you stick an NFC card into the device, the device goes out and make sure you're authorized for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever, that's the DRM, I guess function may have there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it will download 15 tracks on the device.
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[SPEAKER_01]: From what I understand, it saves the songs or stories or whatever it does locally, which is cool, but then you can actually disconnect it from the internet at that point, but then there's only so much you can store, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So my bigger problem
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you can't print your own cards, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and this is my issue with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, they give you a blank.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could do some stuff in that sense, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they give you a blank with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the idea is, I don't know, maybe get a...
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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe you have a grandparent that's far away and you can get them to record audio and that purge kind of cool, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can have them either say like a story or maybe something in your mother tongue, if you're trying to teach your kid, you know, your native language, whatever that is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I still, I still, I think it's just a cost of the device, the cost of all of these things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough to tell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That, oh yeah, man, it is, again, like I said, that was, that was not something I was going to win and that's when I just came in, yeah, and for those of you that missed it, Justin from Apollo Automation was up,
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[SPEAKER_01]: in Toronto a few couple of weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got the chance to hang out and himself TJ from,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm taking home tech on FM and Gavin who lives in, in the Toronto area anyways, who we've had in the podcast in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've, uh, you know, we've got here, hanging out and I was just sitting on the go train on the way back home with, uh, it just didn't, and I was just telling him how much I despise this device.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one principle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually a good device.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give it that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just, I'm just not a fan of
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my little red, but at least now I can bring it into a system, which is a little bit of a consolation price, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've got two questions for you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My first question, hopefully the easy question here is, when your son like taps his card, you know, puts his card into that device, it's a little bit of you die inside because I feel that way like every time my daughter, my son hits a light switch, that the light's automated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, why are you using a light switch?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've automated that for you and it frustrates me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the only the only thing I don't hate about that experience is it just helps him improve his tactile little like motor response.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's fine about the skills.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but in like in like three weeks when he's got that refined, I will absolutely be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and now that you're is here in our 2026.6 is this the first new feature that you're going to be interacting into home, this isn't and what are you going to automate with it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm going to automate anything and I'm just at least have to status of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping it, I haven't interrupted it in yet, so but when I do, I'm hoping it at least shows me battery levels, it's stuff like that, so I know I'm into charge it, so he has a charge to arm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've paid so much for this device, at least we could use that with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess, I mean, you can control playing and pausing cards, so I'm assuming, yeah, I'm changing the volume.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I assume that you can then set some routines, like if it's after 7pm, and it's been playing for 15 minutes, turn it off, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or don't allow the volume to go pop this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is, look, in principle, I don't agree with the device, for the reasons you've mentioned right, it's very expensive and sort of locks you into that ecosystem.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At least there is an integration here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not many backwards incompatible changes, this release, but there are a couple with highlighting HDMI, CEC, calling the turn-off action on HDMI, CEC, switches or media player entities will now send the standard CEC standby command, instead of a vendor specific
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[SPEAKER_00]: This works more reliably across devices from different manufacturers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do check the release notes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there is a way you can send the old command if you need to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's a breaking change for there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I was assumed HDM is easy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Center standard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, so that's what the case in point for this change, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, I guess I didn't realize it we were able to do specific ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So on VIF also has a backwards incompatible change.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you call the onvIF.ptset action with continuous duration, zero, the integration no longer sends a stop command after the continuous move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this lets you start a continuous movement and then stop it later with a separate call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Template entities are just a reminder that the legacy template platform syntax under the individual platform keys has now been removed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was previously deprecated in 2025.12.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So though it has reached its six-month deprecation period, it's now over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I had one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that I forgot to do and I've just I have 20 repairs don't judge me that I just let sit there and one of those had to be that this was the release it's broken on so yeah just to go and fix one of them up and the good thing is that the repair tells you going change it to this syntax anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah yeah that the repair notice is actually pretty decent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is 2026.6.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're on any projects you've been working on last month, or I think you're hoping to get off the ground apart from your aim to display that's just arrived.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, this is the youngest way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying not to take on more more stuff at one point going back to my little yellow adventure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got, I got really mad at this whole thing and then I told my wife I could do a better and I started building a PCB for her for it to be my own smart speaker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That has since taken a backstuff because my day job sometimes gets in the way of me being able to do those kind of things and traveling for work and those kind of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But don't do not look forward to that actually ever becoming a thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it will, but I'm hoping it does, but just add a principle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Say, hey, you don't need to buy this hundred and something down to my eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is like the people that like on TV, they were like buying Tesla's and throwing them in the water, driving them into the water, whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, Tesla's already got your money.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah, really what's the point?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that was really just more of an emotional response to it not wanting to do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, that's, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that the ink is way that I'm really excited for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm going to how do you about that every month, I'm going to want updance when is it ready?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that is something I would love to say done properly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my family just left for the, just an MS walk happening today for a to raise awareness or multiple sclerosis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then we have a few friends that are going to be there and so on and so for so, I was just, it's recording this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't able to make the times work, but because they, they are gone, I might take the time to,
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[SPEAKER_01]: at least plug in the e-paper display.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much I can get from it just from a battery perspective, but hopefully I can just plug it into the USB and have a work in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe maybe maybe some a prototype today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, get me first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't really done anything actually, so my dad got in your computer and so I was like, hey, what are you doing with your computer?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's like, oh, it's just sitting here and I was like, cool, can I take it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've got this Lenovo S7 thingpad thing, that's what I'm cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to, like, I've just had,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, coincidentally, the computer or the server that is running home is now as my dad's previous before this thing, his tower, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've just tried to reuse like hard work, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go out and buy fancy stuff, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So my cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this thing's got like 256 SSD, I think it's got like nine cores or something nine to be a cause.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the most powerful thing, but I'm like, you know what, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want the home assistant always experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've chucked proxmox on there and I'm like, okay, do I just do the nabikasa like back up restore and or do I start fresh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, oh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: starting for like, he's my thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm a software developer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we always want to rewrite the thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is like a golden opportunity to rewrite everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But also, it's 2026, AI is here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I could create like an AI first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this isn't like instance, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: True.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And not that I want to control it, but there's the ability like, now I can actually set it up from beginning that I could have MCP servers, like I could have Claude or Codex or whoever, like, I can just write to that and get it to write the automation for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got purpose-specific triggers and automations, purpose-specific triggers and conditions coming out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Very soon, that can be very much, almost feature complete.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just reimagine how I do automations to fit into purpose specific triggers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, scrap the old dashboards, like dashboards alone, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like in the past year, dashboards have come along like better than what I've got now on my old mushroom card funds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Part of me's like, oh, it's so tempting, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I would have to do a production and staging set up and not do a complete look switch over until the new instances production ready, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because homelessness is very much live and used in your house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm also thinking, what would I miss doing that though?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I just, because I've got home is installed from Proxboxes on its own VM.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Given it, you know, a few more CPU calls and the home system green would have, it's ready to go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on the screen where it's like, do you want to input your network as a backup or do you want to start fresh?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If I start fresh, I miss a whole bunch of history.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I would lose my energy dashboard stats for like ever, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I wouldn't be able to see, you know, my energy consumption works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could keep your existing system.
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[SPEAKER_01]: as an archive for those locks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or you could potentially find a way to try and export them into, like Grafana or something like that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe even just important to, I don't know if it, I believe the backups would import that stuff in there too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the backups will, but I'm saying, I don't want to do the backup player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to restore it for the backup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to start fresh, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the whole point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The other question, too, is, what are you going to do with that information?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you throw clawed or checked your PT or something like that at it and say, a distill all the patterns distill whatever into a Markdown document and that way you just have it as a summary and then that's a summary and you might not be able to get specific values there but
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, this is why I wanted to talk to you about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is like, I like being able to bounce ideas, like you're absolutely right, like maybe I should, maybe I do just do like a summary document.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah, archive it, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I have the capacity, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So just archive it as it is, start fresh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I want to go back and see, what was my power consumption in April, 2026, I can go, I'll just spin up the old,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I miss an instance and go and get a dashboard from there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, turn it on and play with it, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was around with that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you'll be stuck.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't advise upgrading and those kind of things, but, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't give you a upgrade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be purely for archival purposes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I'm at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to hear it by people's thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you like?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you start from scratch?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or if you did start from scratch?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you do differently in your home assistance today?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I would like to keep my life got so many like junk devices.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just accumulate, you know, all of a sudden you're paradise and then it stops working or advice stops working, it just hangs around and goes to advice and you see something I'd like to clear all the cobwebs out, do the templates with more modern templates, syntax up there that is here, I've got templates that have been running for five, six years, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how I'm going to manage the two instances in that kind of a period or I might particularly like I have Zigbee, Z-Wave, I would have to either put them on Wi-Fi for a little bit so that I would have instances pointed to instances pointed at the same Z-Wave J servers that H-A USB actually, I don't know if I could do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a challenge already, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, that's just my kind of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Other people's thoughts too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm kind of interested to put it in our, put it in the comments if you're watching on YouTube or email us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing that this is just a random thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I also moved my Plex server out of my Synology and asked, in anticipation for this, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was like, I could call, I'm moving my, I don't miss this and instance off this server eventually.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me spin up Plex on this server.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Next to home, this is for the moment, at least that will be fast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I spoke about it in my recent episodes with a guest about how slow I'm finding Plex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did that, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bit finicky, but I eventually got my library to use the Synology Ness as a storage location over NFS or whatever it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now I got, because Plex is now on a different IP address than my local network, I'm like, okay, I need to expose
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[SPEAKER_00]: Plexus saying it doesn't have remote access.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to expose or put forward from my router.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have a cloud gateway max, I think it is from your equity.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just log into the IP address of that and flick over the IP address for wooding rule.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I cannot access the IP address of that thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My inch that's fine, everything's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why can't I access the web UI?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went over to the device.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a little LED screen on the front of it, and it just says, Unified OS requires a restart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, okay, never seen that before, cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have power cycles of thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it cycles up, it sputes up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, once again, the little ubiquity cycles that Unified OS needs a restart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For whatever reason, I can't get into my the advice I was on the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But here's where, so, and that's like, you know, like, this is the, haven't had you picked that one ever two years?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the first time I've ever seen this error, first time I've ever had, like, encountered this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sad about it, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be sad about it if I need a whole new device, but from my AI research, there is a recovery mode that I need to enter, which is fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I am impressed about, though, is that I'm talking to you right now, but my connection to the internet might critically infrastructure for talking on the internet, the OS layer is inaccessible, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: All my access points that broadcasts in their Wi-Fi phone,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I didn't know that that thing was having an issue until I tried to just access its web UI.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, maybe like somewhat like an alert would have been great from the device.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, like it's still working even though there's a critical software problem on their side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I am impressed by that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been putting off like trying to push that reset button and activate, like there's a after everything into ethernet, only because I know we've got this recording today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, look, I didn't want to start messing around with it and then realize I actually know I've lost or my configuration settings now because I've had to reset it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's a random ubiquity thing I've never experienced before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you have, maybe this is a common thing and you know just tap to do it every now and then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in terms of like like the critical path for me is like can we use the internet?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is still working fine even though there's something going on on that hardware device.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, all right, I'll be honest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, a lot of times that's why you separate your management layer from your data layer, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if that is then you still got
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my TED Talk for today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what my next project is going to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Give this shout out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to get.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really am just very excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you do differently?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you've got a random ubiquity tip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are you going to do with ink?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let us know as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you had ink, just play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, we'll talk to you in 2026.7.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a zoom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, cheers.