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Welcome to the Haydocks Podcast with your host Jill Allen.
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Today I am joined by Matt Miller from Dental Monitoring,
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a company helping orthodonic practices rethink patient communication, monitoring, and
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workflow through AI powered remote care technology.
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As practices continue balancing.
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Efficiency, patient expectations, and growth, remote monitoring is becoming a
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much bigger part of the conversation. In this episode, we're
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talking about how systems like Dental Monitoring can support startups
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and establish practices alike, improve the patient experience, and help
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practices scale more intentionally through technology and smarter workflows.
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So let's dive in.
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dot com forward slash Jill Allen. Are you thinking about
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opening an orthodonic practice. I know it's a big decision,
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but saving twenty five percent on the Adeck equipment you
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need to get started, That's an easy one because Adeck
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has a special program called smart Start designed to help
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you launch your first practice. You get up to twenty
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five percent off your Adeck orthodonic equipment and furniture. You
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also get complimentary services to help you run and grow
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your business, and my favorite part, access to the smart
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Start pricing for two whole years after you open your doors.
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That gives you flexibility to add more shares as your.
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Cash flow grows. It's pretty smart.
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As an orthodonist, you care about getting all the little
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details right and Adck really got it right with this program.
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So starting off with the big savings on Adeck equipment
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sounds good to you. The AdEx Smart Start is definitely
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worth a closer look. Just follow the link in the
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show notes to learn more. Matt, I am so excited
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to have you on Haydos. Thanks for being here today,
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thanks for having me looking forward to it.
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Yeah.
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Yes, So the way I love to start off our
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episodes and get us started is have our guests shared
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just a little bit about themselves, about your background, how
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you got into working in orthodonic practices through dental monitoring.
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So if you can start us up that way.
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Yeah, it's been a fun career. Just to be totally transparent.
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I mean, I've been in the ortho field now going
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on eleven years. All of my time in dental has
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all been an orthos so I'm a self professed orthosnob love.
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It came over to DM about six years ago, actually
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coming up on six years in July. Was previously a
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gac rep with this BRACEROONA shout out to Mike wille
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who brought me into this field.
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Eleven years ago.
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That's great, a very very fun career. I'm in ortho
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because of him. I met him and that's the path
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I want to go. Ironically, I've never even had orthonic treatment.
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I have been.
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I've been pushed into numerous chairs and numerous practices by
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some of the best doctors around. Going right, I could
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fix the crowding, but all right, Yeah, I came over
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to DM because I saw what it was capable of doing.
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I saw sort of the early vision of what the
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impact could be for practices and how we could shape
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and strengthen the Orthdon offices and being able to be
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a part of that was sort of a dream and
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coming over it's been a very exciting career a DM.
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I think it stays exciting because of our evolution with
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the practices, our evolution with the economy, our evolution with
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the market, and seeing, you know, not just as a
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single source solution, it's just full spectrum what we're able
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to do, And yeah, keeps it exciting.
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Yeah, that's great.
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Well, I have been in this industry for gosh, it's
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kind of crazy to say over thirty five years now, Yeah,
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just a couple of years, just a couple of years,
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and in my own business for the last twenty and
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one of the things I will say is it has
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been such a cool thing to see technology changing over
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the years. I mean when I got into this, I
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started in sterilization and started way back when, and we
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were still tap welding bands and bending straight wire for ourchwires.
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So it's so so cool to just.
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See how things have come along and one of the
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things that I have been very excited about in the
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last ten years or so is just this evolution of
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what we're seeing with the impact of digital and then
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the remote monitoring component of it. And I think, how
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cool is it that we can still have a really
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great patient experience for our patients, but yet also be
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able to respect their time and not have to have
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them in our practices. And I can say even with
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me when I'm working on my startup practices and I
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do a lot of that. As you know, We've even
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changed the way we design offices and are making offices
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smaller because of the impact of remote monitoring. And so
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I want to talk and really dive in. I know
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DM is a big player in our industry right now,
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and I think, you know, really leading the charge and
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what can be done with this monitoring. And I would
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love it if you can talk to us a little
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bit about it and just what you're seeing and how
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that is really being able to impact that patient experience
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and just again, like I said, create that more convenient,
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but also just the communication component of it.
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Yeah, that's a big question.
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But you can go anywhere with it. You can go anywhere.
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That's the challenge we face every day, right because it
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is so impactful in so many different ways. But I
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think to the patient experience, to the doctor's experience, the
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team's experience, we're able to mold DONO monitoring to the
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solution itself to fit the doctor's needs today and with
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the future of the next six, twelve, eighteen months. But
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at the end of the day, the root of it
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is improving the patient experience. Patients are coming to a
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specialist for a reason. They could go all different avenues
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for of treatment, but with their focus and coming to
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a specialist, they're coming to the specialists for rec they
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know that that's the person they need to be seeing
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to get the smile functionally and esthetically they're looking for.
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And typically the.
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Patients are sitting in that TC new patient exam saying
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this all sounds great, but they've got typically three questions,
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how long do we be in these things? How often
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do they have to be here? And eventually they're going
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to ask how much you've got to pay? Yep, But
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that goes in line with Gdpower Associate surveys too. Of
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customer consumer buying decisions. It's typically efficiency convenience and then
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budget so that all is pretty well online. And that's honestly,
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that's our reason for the season is how do we
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help a practice to see the patient, get the best
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clinical results, get the best efficiency in the practice. But
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at the same time, I hate to use a social
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media cliche, but let them live their best life, right,
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let them stay out in the world and patient or
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patient parent. We've had numerous doctors do surveys of their
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patients and say, like, what does a typical visit look like,
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and as far as time wise, and the doctor's expecting
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a twenty thirty minutes something like that. The visit on
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the calendar on the column maybe fifteen or twenty minutes,
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but really for that patient, it could be a couple hours.
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Having to go pick up Timmy from school and get
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them to the office, sit and wait waiting room for
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ten minutes, and then go see the doctor for five
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and then back out the door. But then you got
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to stop at Wendy's and get a frosty, because that's.
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What we do when we take a visit.
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Eventually get them back to school or if it's late
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in the day, take them home. And now you got
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to sit with them or are you even get back
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to work. So there's a lot of effects there, right,
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Ao and Philly. Last year we won the tech Select
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Award for Best Patient Communication Tool, and I was standing
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in the when they announce it.
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I kind of lood around, like do they know what
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it is we do?
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Then I got to think about it, like, I mean,
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a patient's more engaged with the practice through our technology,
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through our solution with the ability of AI but also
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ability of personal interaction from the practice. They're engaged more
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from the practice. Even if the patient's still being seen
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and read in weeks, they're communicating with every single week.
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And so it's providing that better level of communication too
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and from the practice and to and from the patient.
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So in the case that something goes wrong, they've got
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a tool in their pocket to find out the answer
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or find out the fix. The practice is more aware
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of what's going on because they're being seen by the
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practice through our technology more frequently. Yeah, and so it
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was a better proactive approach for the patient and for
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the practice.
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I think that is the really cool thing about what
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DM has been able to provide in this space. And
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I think for so long doctors have been, especially doctors
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of our previous generation where really our practices were built
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on we see patients back every four weeks, you know.
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why we did that for any of our new docs
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out there, Why did we do that. It wasn't just
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about that everything stopped working though a lot of times
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we were in stainless stale wires, but it had to
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do with billing. If you go all the way back,
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we were not doing automatic payments. So the reason we
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saw patients back every four weeks was because they would
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come in with their cubon book and their check and
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their payment. And that was the way that we kept
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our ar healthy. And we knew that collect the money,
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see the patient, collect the money, see the patient. And
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again when we look at, you know, to your point
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of just that patient experience piece of it. I think
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that's been a big change. And one of the things
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that I love about my younger docs and our docs
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that are starting up practices now is that they really
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can embrace the difference in you know, we've got so
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many different generations. We've got four different generations potentially of
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patients in our practice at least two of them, if
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not three of them, would rather interact in a different
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way than having to be in the office.
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My team of ac COUNT executives in the field, I
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have to text or send voice notes to half of
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them because they don't want to just pick up the
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phone and yes.
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Yes, yeah, exactly.
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So I want to dive in a little bit because
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Paydocks is really geared towards a lot of our younger
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docs out there in our startup practices, and I want
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to just talk about the logistics of what does it
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mean to build a practice with the remote monitoring system
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in place? Where we are taking our first year, our
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first couple of years to really put our systems in place.
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I always say when.
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I'm working with my practices, we're working on the foundation
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of what your practice is going to build on. And
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the first year there's never a better time, even though
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you look at it and you're like, oh what, we're slow,
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but there's never a better time to get all of
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the details in place and to surround yourself with the
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right companies that you can go the long distance. They
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kind of become part of your I'll say, the DNA
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of your practice.
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So I want you to.
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Talk a little bit about what it looks like if
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a doctor were to implement dental monitoring, for example, and
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just how that looks when we're scaling from Hey, Jill,
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I've got two patients coming in a month, you know,
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how does this make sense to oh, now I've got
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thirty a day, and how do we kind of scale
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with that. I'd love for you to talk about it
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from the implementation side, and just some best practices that
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you guys see.
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Yeah, coming out of COVID, especially the first two and
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a half years or so coming out of COVID, we
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saw a huge influx of practices coming on board because
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of capacity and right so like they had a hard
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time seeing on the patients whatever, And the misconception was
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this was just for that kind of practice. When we're
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talking about startups or younger practices or in practices in
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infancy or whatever, we want to sort of label them
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as to your point, you're putting in systems, you're putting
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in the DNA, you're putting in the foundation of the practice.
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And I'll be fully transparent, like DM is slightly disruptive
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to bring into a practice, So yes, why I set
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up systems in the practice. Why set up your foundation
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and then two years, three years later, once you're now busy,
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you know you're up here and water. Now let's go
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ahead and rip the band it off and just completely,
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just honestly, I talked to a lot of startup practices.
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I talk to a lot of younger doctors that are
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coming out and opening their own practices, and they're leaving
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their associate positions and going out on their own, and like,
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why would you set up all these systems then disrupt
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them later? Like you're in a perfect spot now to
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build this properly and effectively and done correctly.
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It extends your.
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Ability to not have to have as many assistants or
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as many chairs like the days of the taj mahlls
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with ten chairs and absolutely all the HR that comes
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along with that. You know, essentially DM becomes a digital,
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virtual AI backed assistant that doesn't cause HR problems, doesn't
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call in sick, doesn't heat up fishing the microwave at
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lunch time. Like it's it's a digital assistant for the practice.
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I love that.
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And how many times have we if we had that
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happen in practice?
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Microwave fish the two worst.
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And broccoli and broccoli, three.
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May old Chinese ude. Yeah, I really paint a picture
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here now.
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Now I love that, and I get really excited about
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this because this is something I'm really passionate about anytime
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I'm talking to my young docs because again, even the
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footprint of our practices, you know, we used to in
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the day be looking at three thousand, four thousand square
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foot spaces and now we can easily do fifteen hundred
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to twenty five hundred, four to six chairs, and with
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smart scheduling and smart tools, and our practice have as
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big of a practice or bigger than we ever did
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in those bigger practices. But again lower overhead from rent,
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from this, that or the other.
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But also the HR component I think is just such
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a key thing, and.
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That's a big issue.
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Yeah, it is, it is.
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I'd love to say that staff turnover was that revolving
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door is going to start slowing down, but it doesn't
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seem to me. And so to find the assistant that
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want to work twenty twenty five years in a practice
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like that's just by the way, And so you have
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to sthen the practice. Now, you have to strengthen the
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practice early on and be better prepared for how you
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grow the practice. We run data with practices day and
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day out, and seeing a practice go from a two
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to two and a half million dollar practice to a
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six million dollar practice, same number of chairs, same number
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of assistants, some of the highest lab bills with the
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solutions that they've used, but their overhead stays in that
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fifty to fifty five percent range. That's including adding DM
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into it, which you double the revenue of the practice,
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and you didn't have to hire more assistance, You didn't
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have to add chairs, blow out a wall to make
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more space.
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Like that's hard to argue against.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think back in the
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day A Line used the word shared chair. We kind
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of talked about that, but I think I don't know
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what the keyword we would use now, but it was
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the thought of seeing patients and doubling up the chair
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for two types of treatment. And I think that there's
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something to be said again when you can bring a
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patient back maybe for a virtual check at eight weeks
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or ten weeks, and then bring them back for an
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actual check at maybe twelve weeks or sixteen weeks, depending
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upon what you're doing, and you're still impacting that patient.
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They still have the touch, they still have the experience.
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But yet what you're.
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Doing is just opening up that schedule in that chair
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so that again we aren't just on this revolving every
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six week, every eight week.
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We've got to have a butt on that chair.
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The myth that traditional twins with you know, Last America
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tides right, The myth that those ties are just going
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to start popping out of the mouth in eight weeks,
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or they're going to be come completely dead and the like,
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that's completely been invalidated. Now with our technology, we can
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tell you when arch wires are passive, we can tell
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you if you're losing ties or open doors, we can
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tell you if certain things are there. Those check appointments,
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especially to startup practice, they're nice to have a few
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because you still need to build relationship and a little
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sister or little brother, that kind of thing. But if
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you have the patient in the chair for a clinical
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reason to progress them forward in treatment, that's a necessary visit, checks, validation,
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whatever you want to call. Those visits where they're just
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sitting there to see what's going on. That's an incravenition money. Yeah, Yeah,
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that's inconvenient for the patient and for the practice. I
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think too, like you spurt a thought a second ago.
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We talked about this obviously for the patient experience, but
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a lot of these younger doctors have got families, They've
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got kids at home. They want to be back at
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home for baseball, soccer, dance recitals, whatever. These younger doctors
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don't always want to be sitting there doing orthodonic homework.
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Do any clinics and like plans or whatever till seven
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thirty at night, Like, take some time, reallocate time in
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the practice to be able to get that stuff done
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from eight to five. And if you can take appointments
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off the schedule, that gives you time back in the
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office to get those things knocked out. Yeah, the door,
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the're open, the lights are on, the teams here, get
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that work done then.
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Yeah. I use the phrase with my doctors.
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I want you to make time to work on the
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practice while you're in the practice, because when you leave,
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I want you to be able to shut it off.
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Because that's the.
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Biggest thing I see with doctors is the burnout. And
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the burnout comes from it just never ending. You know,
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you go home and now you've got, like you said,
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eight hours of homework that you've got to do, and
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now you're missing out on your kids and this, that
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and the other.
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I think it's hilarious sitting in the back of the
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room for some of these regional events and you see
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the number of doctors got their computers up and they're
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doing treatment plans or doing this like they're not even
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paying attention to the speakers in the front of the room.
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They're I got Homer to do, Mike.
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Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, we got to switch that for sure.
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For sure.
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So I want to switch gears a little bit because
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I definitely have a lot of listeners that are in
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established practices as well. I want us to talk also
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to our docs who are in our bigger established practices.
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And I think that you already kind of hit on.
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And this has been the hardest thing in any established
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practice is when you introduce a new technology, it's like
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your f steam ahead and you just threw out the parachute,
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you know, and it's like, you know, and everything is
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you know, it just it just yeah, exactly, and it
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just feels. So I think hard sometimes for doctors and
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teams to understand that we got to do the hard
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for about three months, and then once we get past
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the hard, it's going to be over the top amazing.
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I kind of go back to the old analogy of again,
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I've been doing this a while. So when we started
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switching practices over from paper to paperless and the thought
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of going from paper, how could I possibly move into paperless?
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And once teams got into the paperless component, we're like,
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you mean I don't have to spend an hour pulling charts?
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You mean I don't need to run around for two
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hours looking for a chart, you know all the things.
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I'd love it if you could talk about that and
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talk to some of those maybe fears or misconceptions of
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what that looks like, but also maybe how some of
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these established practices can get their time back and what
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AI is doing within dental monitoring, because I think that
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that's a big piece and I think that also helps them.
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You talked about this a little bit earlier, but it
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really can help them move the needle on if they've
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hit a plateau in their ceiling on production. So I
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know that's a big one that I'm going to have
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you bite off here and talk about. But yeah, I'm ready, Jill,
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I'm ready, And.
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Let's be honest, Like, what's the one thing we're not
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getting more of in a day? And it's time?
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Like, yeah, and I talked to a lot of practices,
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and I've talked to a lot of practices in my
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six years here, and this is an opportunity to reallocate time,
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Like the one thing we can't get more of, we're
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actually able to give back to the practice, whether it
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be the patient or the practice, it's both.
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We still see a.
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Lot of practices that are still growing and have been growing.
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I know the numbers last couple years have been down
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a little bit, but there's some folks out there that
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are seeing that ten fifteen, twenty percent in some cases
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growth and the prospect of them continuing to be able
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to do that, that curve still going up is starting
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to your point plateau. And so reallocating time to marketing,
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reallocating time to clinically necessary visits, reallocating time like that's
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the key to the success of DM, Like that sort
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of joke. The real ROI for DM is what you
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do with the time back. Like the patient's paying whatever
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your average case fee is, that's all they're paying. They're
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not paying you more because you finished them sooner, not
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paying you more because you went over treatment time. They're
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paying what they're paying. But the more you can increase
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your revenue per visit, meaning see them less and still
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you know, could finish treatment and the allocated time, that's profitability.
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So if you're going to clear up time in that chair,
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what are you doing to put new butts back in it?
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Right, it's all increasing production.
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And DM gives us the capability of managing the time
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in the day more efficiently and with the capabilities of
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our AI being able to take payload off of the
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practice and not necessarily put again to that point earlier,
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put more homework back in your lap. When we're notifying
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the practice of things that are going right, things are
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going wrong, or goals that have been achieved, we want
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the messaging and the communication the practice to be actionable
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so that that time used managing the dashboard with DM
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is progressing treatment because there's patients need to be seen,
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pages need to be heard, and pages need to be touched.
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Will take care of the scene the herd so that
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the doctor and the team can take care of the
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base need to be touched. Yes, it's that physical touched
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has to be done to progress treatment, but the scene
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herd can be managed virtually, be managed electronically. They have
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a portal directly to the practice in their pocket. I mean,
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they're tied to these things eighty percent of the waking
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hours already.
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Absolutely, so we're just like everything in life. There's an
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app for that. Well, now orthodontic.
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Has and it's right right, and I love that. And
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again I think it's just really leaning in to just
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the generational components of where our patients are at. I'm
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a gen X, so you know, a technology was really
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coming in and I look at my grandkids who are alphas,
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and they're beyond natives, you know what I mean, Like,
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it's amazing to see this.
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You know you mentioned paper charts, like gone in the
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days of paper charts, Gone in the days of film
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X rays, the ledger at the front desk for the schedule,
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alginet impressions. Heaven forbid, we still practices gag and patients
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for those I know. I bought on some algie a
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couple years ago. My wife was in like two rooms
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over and the second I opened the bag, she could
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smell it and she had like a visceral reaction And
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I was like, oh, no, gone are those days. And
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now we're seeing a new shift in ORTHODONICX. Now is
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gone are the days of every eight weeks or even
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every ten week visits for those patients. Like we're using
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NASA developed technology in these archwires. Why are we seeing
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the patient on an eight WEEKIT schedule? Yeah, to see
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that that wire has gone passive or the doors are open,
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and we're losing you know, effective torque on those on
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those teeth, like you're able to see that with this technology,
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Like why are you scheduling the patient every eight weeks?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, and look I get it.
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Going to an appointment on demand made my hands sweaty
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the first time I heard the phrase, too, because it
504
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just seems crazy talk. But if that's where practices want
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to go, We're not doing that overnight to your point,
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established practices and practices that have sort of got systems
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in place, Like we're not ripping the band aid off
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and just throwing everything to the wind. We're doing this
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as a phase rollout approach to get to a more
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on demand or stronger dynamic type schedule. We're into that overtime.
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And so that's how we work into these bigger established
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practices is little change, little adjustments, little alterations of our schedule.
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In about ten weeks, we're going to start seeing some change. Yeah,
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and about three month mark to point, maybe even that
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six month mark, especially the number of times I've had
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texts and calls from doctors they're like, dude, I know
517
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you said this is going to happen. I'm standing in
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the practice twiddling my thumbs like it's happening.
519
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Like yes, yes, yes, we're.
520
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Taking practices from one hundred and twenty one hundred and
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thirty hundred and forty patients a day and maybe a
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single or dual doctor practice, and they're looking at the scale
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in six months going I've got sixty five patients on
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the schedule to day.
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I don't do it myself, and I'm still producing probably
526
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better than I was. I mean, that's the crazy part
527
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is it's just such a huge shift. It's like this
528
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paradigm shift of it's like getting your time back but
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not realizing you have to do the hard work to
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get the time back. But then you're like, wow, what
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a difference this makes.
532
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Say, this is a reminder, dog, this is when we
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start reallocating that time. So what are you going to do?
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And like, I want to see their GPS for breakfast
535
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and for lunch. Like that's still effective. We still got
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to manage that referral network. But what if you could
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show that referring doctor a piece of technology that you're using,
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not just taking them an edible arrangement, but show them
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piece of technology that you're using to help better their
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patient's experience and also in the better world, hygiene maintain better,
541
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you know, we're keeping a better eye on decal and demonization.
542
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Like what if you could show that referring GP this technology.
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Now they're going to increase the referrals to you. So
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now that's that you had freed up. Guess what, we're
545
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putting new bots back in seats.
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I love us self beating engine.
547
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Yeah for sure.
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So I want to dive in a little bit because
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I think with AI, I mean, we all talk about AIAIAI,
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and you touched on it a little bit, but I
551
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want you to talk about just the evolution because I
552
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:22.000
remember as you guys were bringing in AI into your system,
553
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and like any it's constantly evolving. And I'm wondering if
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you can talk about some of the misconceptions maybe that
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are out there. Is it this big evil thing that's
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out there, or is it the next thing that's going
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to revolutionize our offices, you know, whatever that is. But
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I'm wondering if you can talk about that a little
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bit and what you are seeing and how you are
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seeing practices really successfully use AI in conjunction with DM.
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Yeah.
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So when I saw DM the first time, I think
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was AO in twenty eighteen, I believe in the AI
564
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was still I mean in infancy. At that point, even
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though they were really talking about it, it was still a
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remote monitoring solution. I don't know they were really pushing AI,
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but by the time I got here in twenty twenty,
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we were humming with it. So we're looking for over
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one hundred and thirty different clinical triggers. It's very detailed
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in what it's capable of doing and detecting and alerting
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back to. In some cases we dial some of that
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back because it's more specific than the doctor is even requesting.
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So they're like too much.
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We want to make sure that.
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They're getting again to sort of mentioned a minute ago.
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We want to make sure they're getting the information they
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want and they need so they can make actionable decisions
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to move forward. But it's not like we're not plugging
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chat GPT in this thing. It's not automatically responding to
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patients with some wild and crazy, you know response. I'm
581
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here in the South and people get a little suspicious
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of AI. Sometimes I have to be pretty cautious of
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how we kind of talk about it.
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But now we have a library.
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We have multiple libraries of responses that we can customize
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with the practice that the practice still has control of
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the message. We don't want to be sending anything kind
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of wild and crazy. But really it's the power of
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the AI to do the diagnostic work. It's not the
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communication as much as the diagnostic work. We can have
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it scheduled to send notifications and send things outside of
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the cadence of them taking scans from home, but it's
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diagnostic AI in my opinion, it's communication, so taking some
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of the pressure off of the practice, providing information back
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for actionable items or actionable tasks to progress treatment. That's
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where the really where the rubber meets the road. We've
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got some pretty cool things coming in the future to
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even strengthen the communication side of things for the practice.
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So we're continuing to evolve and we've got over the
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last report I saw is over one point two million
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patients in active treatment. Right now we've analyzed over two
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billion with a.
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B that's crazy, that's awesome.
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Like you think with deep learning neural network AI like
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we have, it's continuing to evolve. The approval of a few
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years ago it was a validation to the accuracy of
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our AI and what it's able to do, what it's
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able to detect. When we brought out Smartest a few
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years ago. That was another validation to the accuracy of
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how we're seeing the world cavity and making sure that
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we're seeing the teeth and the position they are, so
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that we can even produce refinement, retention or mid course
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correction aligners without the patient having to come in for
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just an interoral scan, like that's just another visit taking
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off the schedule. But it's also a better patient tool
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because we can communicate with the patients say, hey, we
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caught somethings a going a little bit of rye in
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our treatment plan or in our expectations. Come by and
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pick up your next set of aligners. Hey, we need
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to take a scan. We'll send you some aligners in
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six weeks. We're being more proactive to correcting that patient's trajectory.
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The patient may not even know better or otherwise, but
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we as a practice at the practice level know we're
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providing a more biologically capable treatment because with this technology
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and this information.
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Yeah, I love it again. I get really excited about this.
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I'm such an advocate for products like this in our
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practices and I do. I think this is the future
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of our orthodonic practices. I believe in another ten years
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we're going to have a very small, refined, defined team
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of experts working in our orthodonic practices, kind of each
632
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monitoring their own core roles, and it's just going to
633
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be a totally different landscape as we continue to just
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push forward with technology like this. So how exciting I mean,
635
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it's a fun thing I think to be looking at
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instead of something to be feared or scared about.
637
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There's a very popular quote out there that says AI
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is not going to replace orthodonists, but orthodontists that bring
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the technology and learn and use and make it work
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for them, they're the ones that will look orthodonosy has
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been done for a long time without don a monitoring.
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I will not deny that. But can you do it better?
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Can you do it more efficiently? Can you do it
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more effectively? And can you do it without going bald
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or gray in the process?
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Yeah? Or can you do it and have a better lifestyle?
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Just even thinking about the reality of it is we
648
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should be seeing about in my opinion, about three days
649
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of patience, one day of admin and docs. You guys
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should have good full weekends and time at night and
651
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time in the morning to enjoy the life that you're
652
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working so hard to have. And why wouldn't we be
653
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leaning into technology.
654
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Yeah, they did a lot of work to go through
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school to be top of their class, come the specialist
656
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in the orthonic field. And why spend all your time
657
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in the practice, not out in your real world with
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your family and your friends, being able to enjoy the
659
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benefits of your career.
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Like, I think the days of working super hard.
661
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And I'm not saying they're not working hard, but the
662
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days of having to work so hard to maintain a
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practice at this level, those days are over. Like we
664
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can do better, more efficiently, more effectively. And I'm not
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saying just with DMS that's the case, but like other
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technologies in the industry and in our field now, like
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all the digital orthonic bracket systems, Yeah, I mean all
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the aligner options out there now. Like better use of
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these technologies can help you live a better life lifestyle.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely So as we finish up, I just
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want to kind of get your take on Yeah one
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more no, no, no, no, this will be an easy one.
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I want to I'm not quite done with AI.
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Yet because I want to know if you were to
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put on your hat and be like, this is what
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I predict is going to happen or this is what
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I see with AI. And I know you've been touching
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on it a little bit, but any predictions or anything
679
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that you think is on the horizon that's going to
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do even more than what we've just been talking about.
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I think streamlining workflows will continue to be in an
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evolution with AI. We're in talks and works too. You
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know I mentioned smart STL and how we expand those
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capabilities outside of just the liners. The capabilities there are incredible.
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We've seen a lot of practices using dental monitoring or
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remote monitoring systems for observation and how we improve what
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we're able to do in just general dental general hygiene
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in that kind of world that's continuing to evolve, and
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I mean being able to capture patients new patient exams,
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turning the same day star, but also relying on the
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technology to be more effective in that engagement with those patients.
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Like that world's already here, but it's going to continue
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to level up, and I think that it's a big
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opportunity for practices going forward. Sitting with a doctor a
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few weeks ago, I'm in Raleigh, North Carolina, and there's
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an orthodontis don't carry that many know shout out right.
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The idea of being able to use this technology to
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better plan for every single appointment and having intentions employed
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robot as an assistant at the chair that you've programmed
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all the instructions based off of what you're seeing, that
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human would.
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Take care of ninety percent of appointment. That's down the road.
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But like, as we're talking about it, I'm sitting there
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going like, this is possible entirely, like just that dreamer's mindset.
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The world is your oyster and is the bins you
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can dream. I think we can make a lot of
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these things happen. And that's ex writing about this too.
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It's like we're seeing this golden age of worthow it's
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been as it's been called. That's fantastic, But like the
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there is even more on the horizon.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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Well, I can't wait to have you back on in
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the future and we'll talk about you know, even a
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year from now. I can't even imagine just our continued changes.
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I mean you look back even two years or from
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twenty twenty till now, and I think, man, look at
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what has happened in the last six years. Incredible.
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I look back and I feel like I do it's
719
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about every six months, I kind of like look back
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towards what we've been doing in the last six months,
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and I look back a little bit further, I'm like, Wow,
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even six months, we've evolved.
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The market's evolved, We've evolved. It's insane. But the only
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thing constant is change.
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00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:37.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did they say, changing your dying
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or something like that? You know, you know, and I agree.
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I mean, I think that continual pivot in the right
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direction is what keeps us going.
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So I know you and I could just talk and talk.
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We're both pretty passionate about this, and I love seeing
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what DM is doing for industry.
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So if somebody wants.
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To get a hold of you, they want to find
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out more about dentalal monitoring, and they're like, this is
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exactly what I've been looking for. What's going to be
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the best way that they can reach out, the best
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way that they can get some information.
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Yeah, we've got a team of account executives and integration
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consultants across the country, so likely they've been in your practice.
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Likely their cards somewhere on your desk. Easiest way would
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be reach out to your local account executive. If you
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can't find them or you don't know who they are,
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absolutely feel free to reach out to me and the
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regional sales manager here on the East Coast, but got
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connections and ties to everybody across the country. My email
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is probably the best m dot miller at dentaldash Monitoring
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dot com. Check out our website. There's a ton of
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resources available there. Our Instagram handles got lots of I
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mean new and latest and greatest and upcoming. We were
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just at Orlando AO and had a great time there.
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We do have a team across the country and they
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are absolutely ready to take your call and would love
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to consult with your practices to find out where the
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solution makes.
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The most sense.
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Yeah.
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Perfect, And now a word from the sponsors who make
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because every smile deserves a suite of excellence. All right, Well,
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you know how I like to finish a p haydox.
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I like to finish it up with a little speed round.
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So are you ready to do the speed own challenge?
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Okay?
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What is one daily habit or ritual that helps you
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stay productive or balanced?
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Taking the dog for a walk? I gotta get it
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once in a while. I got to get We got
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a lake behind the house, and he loves chasing geese.
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So we get out there and.
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I love that. That's awesome.
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If you could add one unconditional perk to a workspace,
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what would you add?
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A really good espresso machine? I'm a I'm a coffee
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not snob, but connoisseur will call it. And a really
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good espresso absolutely sets the day off, right.
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I love that, all right? And last one, what is
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one business idea you have recently seen that you wish
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you had thought of?
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Dental monitoring? I wish I thought of that first. He
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got there before I did. I'm reaching a blank on
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that one.
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Oh, that's okay, ball, We'll leave it at that. I mean,
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dental monitoring is a great one. I wish I would
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have thought of it too.
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Leaving to the chase, but I'm here to to trumpet
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his tunes it for him.
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That's a great well.
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Now, again, thank you so much for being here and
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being a part of Haydocks. This was a great episode
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and I'm sure you're going to get a lot of
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calls from our listeners.
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We look forward to it. Thank you so much for
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having Joe for sure, see you see you.
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Are you ready to start a practice of your own?
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Need a new fresh set of eyes or some advice
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on your existing practice?
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If so, reach out.
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To me Jill Allen at www dot practice results dot com.
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If you like what we're doing here on Haydocks and
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want to hear more of this awesome content. Be sure
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miss an episode. Remember, new episodes drop every Thursday.
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See you next week.
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Welcome to the Haydocks Podcast with your host Jill Allen.
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Today I am joined by Matt Miller from Dental Monitoring,
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a company helping orthodonic practices rethink patient communication, monitoring, and
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workflow through AI powered remote care technology.
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As practices continue balancing.
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Efficiency, patient expectations, and growth, remote monitoring is becoming a
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much bigger part of the conversation. In this episode, we're
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talking about how systems like Dental Monitoring can support startups
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and establish practices alike, improve the patient experience, and help
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practices scale more intentionally through technology and smarter workflows.
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So let's dive in.
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And now a word from the sponsors who make this
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and scale stop leaking revenue and get five hundred dollars
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off your startup fee with the Jill allenspecial at Grayfinch
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dot com forward slash Jill Allen. Are you thinking about
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opening an orthodonic practice. I know it's a big decision,
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but saving twenty five percent on the Adeck equipment you
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need to get started, That's an easy one because Adeck
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has a special program called smart Start designed to help
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you launch your first practice. You get up to twenty
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five percent off your Adeck orthodonic equipment and furniture. You
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also get complimentary services to help you run and grow
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your business, and my favorite part, access to the smart
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Start pricing for two whole years after you open your doors.
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That gives you flexibility to add more shares as your.
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Cash flow grows. It's pretty smart.
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As an orthodonist, you care about getting all the little
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details right and Adck really got it right with this program.
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So starting off with the big savings on Adeck equipment
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sounds good to you. The AdEx Smart Start is definitely
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worth a closer look. Just follow the link in the
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show notes to learn more. Matt, I am so excited
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to have you on Haydos. Thanks for being here today,
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thanks for having me looking forward to it.
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Yeah.
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Yes, So the way I love to start off our
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episodes and get us started is have our guests shared
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just a little bit about themselves, about your background, how
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you got into working in orthodonic practices through dental monitoring.
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So if you can start us up that way.
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Yeah, it's been a fun career. Just to be totally transparent.
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I mean, I've been in the ortho field now going
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on eleven years. All of my time in dental has
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all been an orthos so I'm a self professed orthosnob love.
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It came over to DM about six years ago, actually
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coming up on six years in July. Was previously a
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gac rep with this BRACEROONA shout out to Mike wille
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who brought me into this field.
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Eleven years ago.
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That's great, a very very fun career. I'm in ortho
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because of him. I met him and that's the path
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I want to go. Ironically, I've never even had orthonic treatment.
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I have been.
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I've been pushed into numerous chairs and numerous practices by
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some of the best doctors around. Going right, I could
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fix the crowding, but all right, Yeah, I came over
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to DM because I saw what it was capable of doing.
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I saw sort of the early vision of what the
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impact could be for practices and how we could shape
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and strengthen the Orthdon offices and being able to be
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a part of that was sort of a dream and
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coming over it's been a very exciting career a DM.
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I think it stays exciting because of our evolution with
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the practices, our evolution with the economy, our evolution with
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the market, and seeing, you know, not just as a
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single source solution, it's just full spectrum what we're able
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to do, And yeah, keeps it exciting.
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Yeah, that's great.
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Well, I have been in this industry for gosh, it's
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kind of crazy to say over thirty five years now, Yeah,
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just a couple of years, just a couple of years,
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and in my own business for the last twenty and
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one of the things I will say is it has
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been such a cool thing to see technology changing over
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the years. I mean when I got into this, I
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started in sterilization and started way back when, and we
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were still tap welding bands and bending straight wire for ourchwires.
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So it's so so cool to just.
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See how things have come along and one of the
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things that I have been very excited about in the
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last ten years or so is just this evolution of
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what we're seeing with the impact of digital and then
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the remote monitoring component of it. And I think, how
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cool is it that we can still have a really
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great patient experience for our patients, but yet also be
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able to respect their time and not have to have
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them in our practices. And I can say even with
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me when I'm working on my startup practices and I
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do a lot of that. As you know, We've even
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changed the way we design offices and are making offices
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smaller because of the impact of remote monitoring. And so
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I want to talk and really dive in. I know
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DM is a big player in our industry right now,
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and I think, you know, really leading the charge and
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what can be done with this monitoring. And I would
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love it if you can talk to us a little
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bit about it and just what you're seeing and how
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that is really being able to impact that patient experience
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and just again, like I said, create that more convenient,
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but also just the communication component of it.
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Yeah, that's a big question.
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But you can go anywhere with it. You can go anywhere.
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That's the challenge we face every day, right because it
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is so impactful in so many different ways. But I
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think to the patient experience, to the doctor's experience, the
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team's experience, we're able to mold DONO monitoring to the
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solution itself to fit the doctor's needs today and with
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the future of the next six, twelve, eighteen months. But
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at the end of the day, the root of it
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is improving the patient experience. Patients are coming to a
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specialist for a reason. They could go all different avenues
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for of treatment, but with their focus and coming to
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a specialist, they're coming to the specialists for rec they
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know that that's the person they need to be seeing
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to get the smile functionally and esthetically they're looking for.
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And typically the.
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Patients are sitting in that TC new patient exam saying
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this all sounds great, but they've got typically three questions,
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how long do we be in these things? How often
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do they have to be here? And eventually they're going
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to ask how much you've got to pay? Yep, But
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that goes in line with Gdpower Associate surveys too. Of
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customer consumer buying decisions. It's typically efficiency convenience and then
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budget so that all is pretty well online. And that's honestly,
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that's our reason for the season is how do we
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help a practice to see the patient, get the best
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clinical results, get the best efficiency in the practice. But
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at the same time, I hate to use a social
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media cliche, but let them live their best life, right,
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let them stay out in the world and patient or
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patient parent. We've had numerous doctors do surveys of their
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patients and say, like, what does a typical visit look like,
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and as far as time wise, and the doctor's expecting
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a twenty thirty minutes something like that. The visit on
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the calendar on the column maybe fifteen or twenty minutes,
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but really for that patient, it could be a couple hours.
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Having to go pick up Timmy from school and get
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them to the office, sit and wait waiting room for
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ten minutes, and then go see the doctor for five
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and then back out the door. But then you got
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to stop at Wendy's and get a frosty, because that's.
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What we do when we take a visit.
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Eventually get them back to school or if it's late
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in the day, take them home. And now you got
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to sit with them or are you even get back
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to work. So there's a lot of effects there, right,
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Ao and Philly. Last year we won the tech Select
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Award for Best Patient Communication Tool, and I was standing
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in the when they announce it.
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I kind of lood around, like do they know what
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it is we do?
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Yeah?
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Then I got to think about it, like, I mean,
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a patient's more engaged with the practice through our technology,
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through our solution with the ability of AI but also
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ability of personal interaction from the practice. They're engaged more
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from the practice. Even if the patient's still being seen
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and read in weeks, they're communicating with every single week.
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and from the practice and to and from the patient.
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a tool in their pocket to find out the answer
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or find out the fix. The practice is more aware
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of what's going on because they're being seen by the
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practice through our technology more frequently. Yeah, and so it
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was a better proactive approach for the patient and for
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the practice.
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DM has been able to provide in this space. And
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of our previous generation where really our practices were built
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on we see patients back every four weeks, you know.
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why we did that for any of our new docs
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out there, Why did we do that. It wasn't just
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about that everything stopped working though a lot of times
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we were in stainless stale wires, but it had to
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do with billing. If you go all the way back,
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we were not doing automatic payments. So the reason we
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saw patients back every four weeks was because they would
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come in with their cubon book and their check and
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their payment. And that was the way that we kept
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our ar healthy. And we knew that collect the money,
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see the patient, collect the money, see the patient. And
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again when we look at, you know, to your point
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of just that patient experience piece of it. I think
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that's been a big change. And one of the things
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that I love about my younger docs and our docs
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that are starting up practices now is that they really
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can embrace the difference in you know, we've got so
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many different generations. We've got four different generations potentially of
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patients in our practice at least two of them, if
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not three of them, would rather interact in a different
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way than having to be in the office.
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My team of ac COUNT executives in the field, I
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have to text or send voice notes to half of
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them because they don't want to just pick up the
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phone and yes.
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So I want to dive in a little bit because
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Paydocks is really geared towards a lot of our younger
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docs out there in our startup practices, and I want
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to just talk about the logistics of what does it
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mean to build a practice with the remote monitoring system
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in place? Where we are taking our first year, our
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first couple of years to really put our systems in place.
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I always say when.
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I'm working with my practices, we're working on the foundation
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of what your practice is going to build on. And
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the first year there's never a better time, even though
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you look at it and you're like, oh what, we're slow,
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but there's never a better time to get all of
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the details in place and to surround yourself with the
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right companies that you can go the long distance. They
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kind of become part of your I'll say, the DNA
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of your practice.
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Talk a little bit about what it looks like if
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a doctor were to implement dental monitoring, for example, and
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just how that looks when we're scaling from Hey, Jill,
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I've got two patients coming in a month, you know,
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how does this make sense to oh, now I've got
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thirty a day, and how do we kind of scale
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with that. I'd love for you to talk about it
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from the implementation side, and just some best practices that
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you guys see.
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a half years or so coming out of COVID, we
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saw a huge influx of practices coming on board because
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of capacity and right so like they had a hard
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time seeing on the patients whatever, And the misconception was
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this was just for that kind of practice. When we're
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talking about startups or younger practices or in practices in
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infancy or whatever, we want to sort of label them
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as to your point, you're putting in systems, you're putting
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in the DNA, you're putting in the foundation of the practice.
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And I'll be fully transparent, like DM is slightly disruptive
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to bring into a practice, So yes, why I set
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up systems in the practice. Why set up your foundation
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and then two years, three years later, once you're now busy,
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you know you're up here and water. Now let's go
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ahead and rip the band it off and just completely,
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just honestly, I talked to a lot of startup practices.
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I talk to a lot of younger doctors that are
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coming out and opening their own practices, and they're leaving
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their associate positions and going out on their own, and like,
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why would you set up all these systems then disrupt
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them later? Like you're in a perfect spot now to
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build this properly and effectively and done correctly.
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It extends your.
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Ability to not have to have as many assistants or
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as many chairs like the days of the taj mahlls
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with ten chairs and absolutely all the HR that comes
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along with that. You know, essentially DM becomes a digital,
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virtual AI backed assistant that doesn't cause HR problems, doesn't
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call in sick, doesn't heat up fishing the microwave at
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lunch time. Like it's it's a digital assistant for the practice.
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I love that.
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And how many times have we if we had that
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happen in practice?
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Microwave fish the two worst.
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And broccoli and broccoli, three.
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May old Chinese ude. Yeah, I really paint a picture
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here now.
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this because this is something I'm really passionate about anytime
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I'm talking to my young docs because again, even the
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footprint of our practices, you know, we used to in
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the day be looking at three thousand, four thousand square
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foot spaces and now we can easily do fifteen hundred
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to twenty five hundred, four to six chairs, and with
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smart scheduling and smart tools, and our practice have as
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big of a practice or bigger than we ever did
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in those bigger practices. But again lower overhead from rent,
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from this, that or the other.
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a key thing, and.
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That's a big issue.
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I'd love to say that staff turnover was that revolving
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door is going to start slowing down, but it doesn't
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seem to me. And so to find the assistant that
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want to work twenty twenty five years in a practice
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like that's just by the way, And so you have
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to sthen the practice. Now, you have to strengthen the
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practice early on and be better prepared for how you
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grow the practice. We run data with practices day and
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day out, and seeing a practice go from a two
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to two and a half million dollar practice to a
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six million dollar practice, same number of chairs, same number
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of assistants, some of the highest lab bills with the
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solutions that they've used, but their overhead stays in that
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fifty to fifty five percent range. That's including adding DM
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into it, which you double the revenue of the practice,
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and you didn't have to hire more assistance, You didn't
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have to add chairs, blow out a wall to make
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more space.
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Like that's hard to argue against.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think back in the
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day A Line used the word shared chair. We kind
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of talked about that, but I think I don't know
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what the keyword we would use now, but it was
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the thought of seeing patients and doubling up the chair
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for two types of treatment. And I think that there's
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something to be said again when you can bring a
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patient back maybe for a virtual check at eight weeks
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or ten weeks, and then bring them back for an
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actual check at maybe twelve weeks or sixteen weeks, depending
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upon what you're doing, and you're still impacting that patient.
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They still have the touch, they still have the experience.
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Doing is just opening up that schedule in that chair
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so that again we aren't just on this revolving every
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six week, every eight week.
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We've got to have a butt on that chair.
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The myth that traditional twins with you know, Last America
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tides right, The myth that those ties are just going
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to start popping out of the mouth in eight weeks,
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or they're going to be come completely dead and the like,
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that's completely been invalidated. Now with our technology, we can
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tell you when arch wires are passive, we can tell
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you if you're losing ties or open doors, we can
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tell you if certain things are there. Those check appointments,
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especially to startup practice, they're nice to have a few
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because you still need to build relationship and a little
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sister or little brother, that kind of thing. But if
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you have the patient in the chair for a clinical
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reason to progress them forward in treatment, that's a necessary visit, checks, validation,
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whatever you want to call. Those visits where they're just
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sitting there to see what's going on. That's an incravenition money. Yeah, Yeah,
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that's inconvenient for the patient and for the practice. I
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think too, like you spurt a thought a second ago.
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We talked about this obviously for the patient experience, but
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a lot of these younger doctors have got families, They've
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got kids at home. They want to be back at
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home for baseball, soccer, dance recitals, whatever. These younger doctors
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don't always want to be sitting there doing orthodonic homework.
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Do any clinics and like plans or whatever till seven
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thirty at night, Like, take some time, reallocate time in
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the practice to be able to get that stuff done
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from eight to five. And if you can take appointments
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off the schedule, that gives you time back in the
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office to get those things knocked out. Yeah, the door,
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the're open, the lights are on, the teams here, get
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that work done then.
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Yeah. I use the phrase with my doctors.
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I want you to make time to work on the
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practice while you're in the practice, because when you leave,
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I want you to be able to shut it off.
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Because that's the.
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Biggest thing I see with doctors is the burnout. And
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the burnout comes from it just never ending. You know,
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you go home and now you've got, like you said,
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eight hours of homework that you've got to do, and
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now you're missing out on your kids and this, that
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and the other.
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I think it's hilarious sitting in the back of the
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room for some of these regional events and you see
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the number of doctors got their computers up and they're
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doing treatment plans or doing this like they're not even
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paying attention to the speakers in the front of the room.
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They're I got Homer to do, Mike.
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Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, we got to switch that for sure.
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For sure.
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So I want to switch gears a little bit because
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I definitely have a lot of listeners that are in
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established practices as well. I want us to talk also
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to our docs who are in our bigger established practices.
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And I think that you already kind of hit on.
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And this has been the hardest thing in any established
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practice is when you introduce a new technology, it's like
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your f steam ahead and you just threw out the parachute,
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you know, and it's like, you know, and everything is
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you know, it just it just yeah, exactly, and it
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just feels. So I think hard sometimes for doctors and
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teams to understand that we got to do the hard
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for about three months, and then once we get past
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the hard, it's going to be over the top amazing.
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I kind of go back to the old analogy of again,
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I've been doing this a while. So when we started
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switching practices over from paper to paperless and the thought
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of going from paper, how could I possibly move into paperless?
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you mean I don't have to spend an hour pulling charts?
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You mean I don't need to run around for two
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hours looking for a chart, you know all the things.
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I'd love it if you could talk about that and
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talk to some of those maybe fears or misconceptions of
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what that looks like, but also maybe how some of
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these established practices can get their time back and what
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AI is doing within dental monitoring, because I think that
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that's a big piece and I think that also helps them.
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You talked about this a little bit earlier, but it
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really can help them move the needle on if they've
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hit a plateau in their ceiling on production. So I
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know that's a big one that I'm going to have
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you bite off here and talk about. But yeah, I'm ready, Jill,
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I'm ready, And.
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Let's be honest, Like, what's the one thing we're not
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getting more of in a day? And it's time?
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Like, yeah, and I talked to a lot of practices,
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and I've talked to a lot of practices in my
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six years here, and this is an opportunity to reallocate time,
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Like the one thing we can't get more of, we're
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actually able to give back to the practice, whether it
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be the patient or the practice, it's both.
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We still see a.
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Lot of practices that are still growing and have been growing.
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I know the numbers last couple years have been down
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a little bit, but there's some folks out there that
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are seeing that ten fifteen, twenty percent in some cases
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growth and the prospect of them continuing to be able
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to do that, that curve still going up is starting
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to your point plateau. And so reallocating time to marketing,
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reallocating time to clinically necessary visits, reallocating time like that's
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the key to the success of DM, Like that sort
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of joke. The real ROI for DM is what you
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do with the time back. Like the patient's paying whatever
444
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your average case fee is, that's all they're paying. They're
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not paying you more because you finished them sooner, not
446
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paying you more because you went over treatment time. They're
447
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paying what they're paying. But the more you can increase
448
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your revenue per visit, meaning see them less and still
449
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you know, could finish treatment and the allocated time, that's profitability.
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So if you're going to clear up time in that chair,
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what are you doing to put new butts back in it?
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Right, it's all increasing production.
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And DM gives us the capability of managing the time
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in the day more efficiently and with the capabilities of
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our AI being able to take payload off of the
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practice and not necessarily put again to that point earlier,
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put more homework back in your lap. When we're notifying
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the practice of things that are going right, things are
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going wrong, or goals that have been achieved, we want
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the messaging and the communication the practice to be actionable
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so that that time used managing the dashboard with DM
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is progressing treatment because there's patients need to be seen,
463
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pages need to be heard, and pages need to be touched.
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Will take care of the scene the herd so that
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the doctor and the team can take care of the
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base need to be touched. Yes, it's that physical touched
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has to be done to progress treatment, but the scene
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herd can be managed virtually, be managed electronically. They have
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a portal directly to the practice in their pocket. I mean,
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they're tied to these things eighty percent of the waking
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hours already.
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Absolutely, so we're just like everything in life. There's an
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app for that. Well, now orthodontic.
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Has and it's right right, and I love that. And
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again I think it's just really leaning in to just
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the generational components of where our patients are at. I'm
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a gen X, so you know, a technology was really
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coming in and I look at my grandkids who are alphas,
479
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and they're beyond natives, you know what I mean, Like,
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it's amazing to see this.
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Yeah.
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You know you mentioned paper charts, like gone in the
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days of paper charts, Gone in the days of film
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X rays, the ledger at the front desk for the schedule,
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alginet impressions. Heaven forbid, we still practices gag and patients
486
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for those I know. I bought on some algie a
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couple years ago. My wife was in like two rooms
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over and the second I opened the bag, she could
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smell it and she had like a visceral reaction And
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I was like, oh, no, gone are those days. And
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now we're seeing a new shift in ORTHODONICX. Now is
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gone are the days of every eight weeks or even
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every ten week visits for those patients. Like we're using
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NASA developed technology in these archwires. Why are we seeing
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the patient on an eight WEEKIT schedule? Yeah, to see
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that that wire has gone passive or the doors are open,
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and we're losing you know, effective torque on those on
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those teeth, like you're able to see that with this technology,
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Like why are you scheduling the patient every eight weeks?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, and look I get it.
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Going to an appointment on demand made my hands sweaty
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the first time I heard the phrase, too, because it
504
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just seems crazy talk. But if that's where practices want
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to go, We're not doing that overnight to your point,
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established practices and practices that have sort of got systems
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in place, Like we're not ripping the band aid off
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and just throwing everything to the wind. We're doing this
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as a phase rollout approach to get to a more
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on demand or stronger dynamic type schedule. We're into that overtime.
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And so that's how we work into these bigger established
512
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practices is little change, little adjustments, little alterations of our schedule.
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In about ten weeks, we're going to start seeing some change. Yeah,
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and about three month mark to point, maybe even that
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six month mark, especially the number of times I've had
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texts and calls from doctors they're like, dude, I know
517
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you said this is going to happen. I'm standing in
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the practice twiddling my thumbs like it's happening.
519
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Like yes, yes, yes, we're.
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Taking practices from one hundred and twenty one hundred and
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thirty hundred and forty patients a day and maybe a
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single or dual doctor practice, and they're looking at the scale
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in six months going I've got sixty five patients on
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the schedule to day.
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I don't do it myself, and I'm still producing probably
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better than I was. I mean, that's the crazy part
527
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is it's just such a huge shift. It's like this
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paradigm shift of it's like getting your time back but
529
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not realizing you have to do the hard work to
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get the time back. But then you're like, wow, what
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a difference this makes.
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Say, this is a reminder, dog, this is when we
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start reallocating that time. So what are you going to do?
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And like, I want to see their GPS for breakfast
535
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and for lunch. Like that's still effective. We still got
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to manage that referral network. But what if you could
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show that referring doctor a piece of technology that you're using,
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not just taking them an edible arrangement, but show them
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piece of technology that you're using to help better their
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patient's experience and also in the better world, hygiene maintain better,
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you know, we're keeping a better eye on decal and demonization.
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Like what if you could show that referring GP this technology.
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Now they're going to increase the referrals to you. So
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now that's that you had freed up. Guess what, we're
545
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putting new bots back in seats.
546
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I love us self beating engine.
547
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Yeah for sure.
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So I want to dive in a little bit because
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I think with AI, I mean, we all talk about AIAIAI,
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and you touched on it a little bit, but I
551
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want you to talk about just the evolution because I
552
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:22.000
remember as you guys were bringing in AI into your system,
553
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and like any it's constantly evolving. And I'm wondering if
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you can talk about some of the misconceptions maybe that
555
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are out there. Is it this big evil thing that's
556
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out there, or is it the next thing that's going
557
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to revolutionize our offices, you know, whatever that is. But
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I'm wondering if you can talk about that a little
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bit and what you are seeing and how you are
560
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seeing practices really successfully use AI in conjunction with DM.
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Yeah.
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So when I saw DM the first time, I think
563
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was AO in twenty eighteen, I believe in the AI
564
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was still I mean in infancy. At that point, even
565
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though they were really talking about it, it was still a
566
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remote monitoring solution. I don't know they were really pushing AI,
567
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but by the time I got here in twenty twenty,
568
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we were humming with it. So we're looking for over
569
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one hundred and thirty different clinical triggers. It's very detailed
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in what it's capable of doing and detecting and alerting
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back to. In some cases we dial some of that
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back because it's more specific than the doctor is even requesting.
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So they're like too much.
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We want to make sure that.
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They're getting again to sort of mentioned a minute ago.
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We want to make sure they're getting the information they
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want and they need so they can make actionable decisions
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to move forward. But it's not like we're not plugging
579
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chat GPT in this thing. It's not automatically responding to
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patients with some wild and crazy, you know response. I'm
581
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here in the South and people get a little suspicious
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of AI. Sometimes I have to be pretty cautious of
583
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how we kind of talk about it.
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But now we have a library.
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We have multiple libraries of responses that we can customize
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with the practice that the practice still has control of
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the message. We don't want to be sending anything kind
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of wild and crazy. But really it's the power of
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the AI to do the diagnostic work. It's not the
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communication as much as the diagnostic work. We can have
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it scheduled to send notifications and send things outside of
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the cadence of them taking scans from home, but it's
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diagnostic AI in my opinion, it's communication, so taking some
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of the pressure off of the practice, providing information back
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for actionable items or actionable tasks to progress treatment. That's
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where the really where the rubber meets the road. We've
597
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got some pretty cool things coming in the future to
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even strengthen the communication side of things for the practice.
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So we're continuing to evolve and we've got over the
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last report I saw is over one point two million
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patients in active treatment. Right now we've analyzed over two
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billion with a.
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B that's crazy, that's awesome.
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Like you think with deep learning neural network AI like
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we have, it's continuing to evolve. The approval of a few
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years ago it was a validation to the accuracy of
607
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our AI and what it's able to do, what it's
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able to detect. When we brought out Smartest a few
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years ago. That was another validation to the accuracy of
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how we're seeing the world cavity and making sure that
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we're seeing the teeth and the position they are, so
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that we can even produce refinement, retention or mid course
613
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correction aligners without the patient having to come in for
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just an interoral scan, like that's just another visit taking
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off the schedule. But it's also a better patient tool
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because we can communicate with the patients say, hey, we
617
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caught somethings a going a little bit of rye in
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our treatment plan or in our expectations. Come by and
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pick up your next set of aligners. Hey, we need
620
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to take a scan. We'll send you some aligners in
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six weeks. We're being more proactive to correcting that patient's trajectory.
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The patient may not even know better or otherwise, but
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we as a practice at the practice level know we're
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providing a more biologically capable treatment because with this technology
625
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and this information.
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Yeah, I love it again. I get really excited about this.
627
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I'm such an advocate for products like this in our
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practices and I do. I think this is the future
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of our orthodonic practices. I believe in another ten years
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we're going to have a very small, refined, defined team
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of experts working in our orthodonic practices, kind of each
632
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:10.519
monitoring their own core roles, and it's just going to
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be a totally different landscape as we continue to just
634
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push forward with technology like this. So how exciting I mean,
635
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it's a fun thing I think to be looking at
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instead of something to be feared or scared about.
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There's a very popular quote out there that says AI
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is not going to replace orthodonists, but orthodontists that bring
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the technology and learn and use and make it work
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for them, they're the ones that will look orthodonosy has
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been done for a long time without don a monitoring.
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I will not deny that. But can you do it better?
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Can you do it more efficiently? Can you do it
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more effectively? And can you do it without going bald
645
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or gray in the process?
646
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Yeah? Or can you do it and have a better lifestyle?
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Just even thinking about the reality of it is we
648
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:59.039
should be seeing about in my opinion, about three days
649
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.359
of patience, one day of admin and docs. You guys
650
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should have good full weekends and time at night and
651
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time in the morning to enjoy the life that you're
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working so hard to have. And why wouldn't we be
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leaning into technology.
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Yeah, they did a lot of work to go through
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school to be top of their class, come the specialist
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in the orthonic field. And why spend all your time
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in the practice, not out in your real world with
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your family and your friends, being able to enjoy the
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benefits of your career.
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Like, I think the days of working super hard.
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And I'm not saying they're not working hard, but the
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days of having to work so hard to maintain a
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practice at this level, those days are over. Like we
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can do better, more efficiently, more effectively. And I'm not
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saying just with DMS that's the case, but like other
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technologies in the industry and in our field now, like
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all the digital orthonic bracket systems, Yeah, I mean all
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the aligner options out there now. Like better use of
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these technologies can help you live a better life lifestyle.
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely So as we finish up, I just
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want to kind of get your take on Yeah one
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more no, no, no, no, this will be an easy one.
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I want to I'm not quite done with AI.
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Yet because I want to know if you were to
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put on your hat and be like, this is what
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I predict is going to happen or this is what
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I see with AI. And I know you've been touching
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on it a little bit, but any predictions or anything
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that you think is on the horizon that's going to
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do even more than what we've just been talking about.
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I think streamlining workflows will continue to be in an
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evolution with AI. We're in talks and works too. You
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know I mentioned smart STL and how we expand those
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capabilities outside of just the liners. The capabilities there are incredible.
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We've seen a lot of practices using dental monitoring or
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remote monitoring systems for observation and how we improve what
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we're able to do in just general dental general hygiene
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in that kind of world that's continuing to evolve, and
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I mean being able to capture patients new patient exams,
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turning the same day star, but also relying on the
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technology to be more effective in that engagement with those patients.
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Like that world's already here, but it's going to continue
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to level up, and I think that it's a big
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opportunity for practices going forward. Sitting with a doctor a
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few weeks ago, I'm in Raleigh, North Carolina, and there's
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an orthodontis don't carry that many know shout out right.
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The idea of being able to use this technology to
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better plan for every single appointment and having intentions employed
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robot as an assistant at the chair that you've programmed
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all the instructions based off of what you're seeing, that
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human would.
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Take care of ninety percent of appointment. That's down the road.
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But like, as we're talking about it, I'm sitting there
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going like, this is possible entirely, like just that dreamer's mindset.
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The world is your oyster and is the bins you
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can dream. I think we can make a lot of
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these things happen. And that's ex writing about this too.
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It's like we're seeing this golden age of worthow it's
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been as it's been called. That's fantastic, But like the
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there is even more on the horizon.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree.
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Well, I can't wait to have you back on in
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the future and we'll talk about you know, even a
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year from now. I can't even imagine just our continued changes.
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I mean you look back even two years or from
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twenty twenty till now, and I think, man, look at
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what has happened in the last six years. Incredible.
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I look back and I feel like I do it's
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about every six months, I kind of like look back
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towards what we've been doing in the last six months,
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and I look back a little bit further, I'm like, Wow,
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even six months, we've evolved.
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The market's evolved, We've evolved. It's insane. But the only
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thing constant is change.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. What did they say, changing your dying
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or something like that? You know, you know, and I agree.
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I mean, I think that continual pivot in the right
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direction is what keeps us going.
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So I know you and I could just talk and talk.
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We're both pretty passionate about this, and I love seeing
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what DM is doing for industry.
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So if somebody wants.
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To get a hold of you, they want to find
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out more about dentalal monitoring, and they're like, this is
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exactly what I've been looking for. What's going to be
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the best way that they can reach out, the best
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way that they can get some information.
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Yeah, we've got a team of account executives and integration
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consultants across the country, so likely they've been in your practice.
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Likely their cards somewhere on your desk. Easiest way would
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be reach out to your local account executive. If you
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can't find them or you don't know who they are,
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absolutely feel free to reach out to me and the
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regional sales manager here on the East Coast, but got
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connections and ties to everybody across the country. My email
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is probably the best m dot miller at dentaldash Monitoring
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dot com. Check out our website. There's a ton of
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resources available there. Our Instagram handles got lots of I
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mean new and latest and greatest and upcoming. We were
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just at Orlando AO and had a great time there.
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We do have a team across the country and they
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are absolutely ready to take your call and would love
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to consult with your practices to find out where the
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solution makes.
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The most sense.
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Yeah.
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you know how I like to finish a p haydox.
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I like to finish it up with a little speed round.
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So are you ready to do the speed own challenge?
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Okay?
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What is one daily habit or ritual that helps you
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stay productive or balanced?
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Taking the dog for a walk? I gotta get it
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once in a while. I got to get We got
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a lake behind the house, and he loves chasing geese.
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So we get out there and.
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I love that. That's awesome.
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If you could add one unconditional perk to a workspace,
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what would you add?
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A really good espresso machine? I'm a I'm a coffee
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not snob, but connoisseur will call it. And a really
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good espresso absolutely sets the day off, right.
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I love that, all right? And last one, what is
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one business idea you have recently seen that you wish
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you had thought of?
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Dental monitoring? I wish I thought of that first. He
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got there before I did. I'm reaching a blank on
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that one.
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Oh, that's okay, ball, We'll leave it at that. I mean,
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dental monitoring is a great one. I wish I would
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have thought of it too.
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Leaving to the chase, but I'm here to to trumpet
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his tunes it for him.
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That's a great well.
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Now, again, thank you so much for being here and
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being a part of Haydocks. This was a great episode
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and I'm sure you're going to get a lot of
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calls from our listeners.
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We look forward to it. Thank you so much for
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having Joe for sure, see you see you.
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Are you ready to start a practice of your own?
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Need a new fresh set of eyes or some advice
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on your existing practice?
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If so, reach out.
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To me Jill Allen at www dot practice results dot com.
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If you like what we're doing here on Haydocks and
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