With Mark Teschner Week ending 2/27/26

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Here we go.
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Three three two hllrybody and welcome to another edition of
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the g HP Spotlight.
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Here on jail J Media.
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I am a jail j O jil J Media, James
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Junior and of course my partner in all things General Hospital,
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every floor thing ran Hey, everybody, third floor, tenth floor floors.
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You're seeing eleven, you're seeing there the doors outside. Now, folks,
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I'm gonna give him an intro because I can, because
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as you know, we've been celebrating already ten years now,
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going to eleven years on the air. Whe It's kind
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of crazy for a show, uh, and two different networks,
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all kinds of hosts. But Frank and I am you'll
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held on. I'm gonna give him there you go, shut
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my head, shut myself up, all right. So I tell
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you people who are important to this show's history. He
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is one of those folks. I met him eleven years
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ago through an interview with a show friend Candiceprin Rostro.
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We had met, We did an interview with him before
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I started this show was developing it. This person was
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so nice and gave me his card and said here's
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my cell number. If you need anything from your beginning
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j show, send me a text or give me a call.
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People say that all the time, you know his business,
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but I ship you not. A couple weeks later we
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got Green Litz. I had hired Frank and tore the
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other people and and I said I'd get in touch
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with the PR people and at g H. And he
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answered and he connected us. Back then it was Barbara
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Patterson Roy who I love. It was her and we
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It helped our show. It completely helped our show in
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the last all these years, we still work with them
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the whole thing. So here's one people that just is
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part of the history of this show as we celebrate
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our eleventh season. He is at multi I mean we're
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talking multi Emmy Award winner casting director. I mean been
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around me. He did he did you want to be
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a substar. He's been around for he's an actors casting director.
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I have friends who've taken his courses and classes and trainings.
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Help me welcome the legendary Mark Tester. Hi, Mark, happy
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to be here.
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I hope we can live up to that Billy.
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You are you do? And you are you do?
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So before we get to him. We because you want toybody,
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thank you for being here to chat the chat back.
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You think you be here, I gotta tell you. So
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we did Beyond the Gates this morning. The album is out.
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That was Amanda and Candice and then that's out right now.
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We also did the Bold of Beautiful and Young and
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the Wrestlers. Those are out also audio and video. You
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check those out. Termmy govea who would be here, and says, hello,
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Mark's taking a class from you. It's her birthday tomorrow,
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so she's off today. I say she's on assignment, but
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I think it's prosecco and palm springs involved. But she's
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all doing that today of her birthday tomorrow. So we
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want to get shout out to her. And then after this.
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Of course, another friend of mine took your class, Tony Moore.
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His show just today's at three o'clock. Though we talk
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about all things days of our lives. We have the
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Sunday Soap blocks to support them, support us, support soaks.
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We're not gonna be here next week.
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I'll be with my granddaughter for her birthday, so but
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we'll be back week after. I know it's Oscar Sunday,
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but we're done before the Oscar starts, so you'll join us,
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We'll talk soaps and then you go.
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Watch the Oscars. That's how you do on the fifteenth.
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But today we're happy to continue to bring you stars
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to our show. We had last week, we had the boys, Adrian,
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Chando and Van Hansis.
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But Mark.
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The fans were like Mark Tester's coming. They were seriously,
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they were like, we like them, but Mark Tester's coming.
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So again, welcome to the show.
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Happy to be here, and that's very nice to hear.
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Thank you.
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Well.
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One of the things is you are I mean, I've
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heard this many times from of the people too. I
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shared a story that you were so you met what
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you said. You didn't just say it. You know, we
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were in Hollywood. You'll have lunch. I want you here.
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That stuff all the time. But like I literally did
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text you, you got you literally took care of it,
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like you got back to it anytime message. You've always
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messaged back. But I'm saying that that's one of those
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things in Hollywood. I'm sure you've seen all kinds of relationships.
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Do you think that's one reasons why you're still in
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the business.
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By the way, I am probably occasionally guilty of saying
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let's have lunch and not quite meaning it. I want
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to be clear, I'm not mister about Rushmore, but I
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think you know, you get in this town, you get
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bombarded by so many people that want your time, and
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it's actually a great thing that people want to connect
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with you, but there's only so many hours in the day.
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I you know, I don't know my formula for the longevity.
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I've been casting General Hospital over thirty six years. Before
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that on ABC, I did Loving for four and a half,
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which led to General Hospitals, so that's forty years on
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ABC daytime. And I think it comes down to, first
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of all, loving what you do. You can't build a
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career if it's not something that you're passionate about. So
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for me, casting has always been what I'm passionate about,
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possibly the only thing I can actually do, but it's
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my calling, so that helps in terms of building a career.
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I evolved, just like an actor grows in their work.
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I am a better casting director now than I was
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when I started forty years ago, so I've I always
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feel like I learned something new in the process. It
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helps to love actors because without an actor. There's no
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general hospital. I don't have a job, and I never
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lose sight of that that it's not me versus the
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actor or I'm above any actor. It's a collaboration. When
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an actor comes in, I am hoping they're amazing, that
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they are the missing piece to the puzzle of the
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canvas of the show. So I think that helps a
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career is when you're on the side of the people
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that are auditioning for you, and also being open and
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receptive to the vision that different producers have on the show,
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different writers. I have to stay true to my taste
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and my vision, but I also have to be aware
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of who ever is I'm working for. I understand their
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vision as well, so we can collaborate to find those
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actors to go the direction they want to go with
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the storylines and with the show. So it's all of
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that I think that has led to the building of
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a career.
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What is one thing I'm sure there's many, but what
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is one thing that you have learned that you stopped,
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maybe stop doing back in the early days that you
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now know to be too now.
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I think it comes down to trusting your gut, not
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questioning that now. Second guessing what do you think? What
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do you think? I got to go on my gut
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instinct and give the producers options, So there's multiple options
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for a given role, But it really comes down to
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trusting my gut and as I've been doing this and
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working on the show, I really am in sync with
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this show and what we need for the series regulars,
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what we need for the guest stars, what we need
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for what we call the under fives, five lines or less.
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In other words, to me, I take every role seriously,
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whether it's a three year contract or a guy saying
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three lines. But what can I do to bring this
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show to life? To find actors that are dynamic, powerful
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and interesting enough that the audience is going to be
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engaged and want to watch them grow and in turn
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watch them grow on the show.
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Yeah right, Yeah. I want to ask if ill open
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that is, how much when you're casting is there's potential
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kind of factor into it in a sense where there
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are some actors that I know have come the show
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that when they start it's a little stiff, a little
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wooden at times. But as they grow on the show,
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as you're saying, their performance has become more natural.
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That's a great question. I would only change the free
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from stiff and wooden to green. We say green, not seasoned.
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It doesn't even mean they're necessarily stiff, but because they're green,
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there's not as much nuance and complexity to their work
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as you hope will develop. And I can give you, you know,
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I'll give you a few examples through the years. When
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we hired Vanessa Marcel, she hadn't done anything, maybe a play,
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but this was her first gig and she was very raw,
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very green. Didn't have the skill set that she had
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when she eventually started to win awards, but there was
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something amazingly magical about her. She had this thing you
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can't quantify, this charisma, this presence, and you couldn't stop
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watching her, and we felt there was enough there to
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invest in building that character. I'll give you two more
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of actors that are currently on the show. Ryan Pavee,
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when he auditioned, had not done any professional acting. He
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was studying, but he was very raw, and his manager
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sent me an audition he had done and I was like, yeah,
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he's very raw, but there there's a presence, there's a charisma,
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and so I brought it into my executive producer Frank Valentini,
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and I said, listen this. He set the audition to Frank.
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I said, this guy hadn't done anything, but there's something there.
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Frank immediate was like, yeah, get him in. So he
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came in and read for Frank and me as some
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other producers. We created that role for him. We literally
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created a role for Ryan Pavee and yet he hadn't
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done anything, but we saw his potential. So when things
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like that happen, it's very exciting from the casting point.
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If you see something and it takes a village, you
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need Frank Valentini your executive producer. You need people to
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see what you see. And my favorite part example is
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Giovanna knotsa.
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Chad just said that he's doing great now we're watching
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him grow on. He is right.
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I love that kid, and I called him a kid
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because he's now what twenty He won, but he was nineteen.
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So he auditioned for the role of Aiden and he
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was way too old. And the reason I sometimes see
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older actors for a role is because you never know
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what if there's something else, And he was like, okay.
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I was like, this guy is nineteen years old. He's simple,
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he's real he's not yet there, but there is something
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about this guy. So when I sent the group the
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auditions to Frank to see who he wanted for Aid,
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and I said, listen, I'm including this guy, Giovanna Matza.
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He hasn't done much but and he's too old for
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the role, but I just want you to take a look.
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Frank said, get him in. We brought him in, had
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a room full of producers. He'd been in La I
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think three weeks. I mean at that point he was
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a maestro violin player, a virtuoso. So I brought up
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his violin playing in the audition to break the eyes
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and make him comfortable. And then he read and obviously
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his work is a word it is now, which is fantastic,
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but it was solid enough and he was president enough.
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When we saw something, he left. We created the role.
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There was no Geo on the show until we said,
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let's create a role for Giovanna Masa. So Frank and
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the writers created that role. And because we saw something
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in this guy. And to his credit, he's one of
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the hardest working actress. He's worked and he's worked, and
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the work he's doing now, the depths, the nuance, the range,
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he went for being a sweet kid with the violin
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on the show to a very pomp located, conflicted, charming, dark,
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bulti dimensional character on the show because he's put in
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the work. I think the transition for him was the
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nurse's ball with the breaking the violin. Something flicked, and
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ever since then he's been His work is taken off
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leaps and bounds, and he really has held his own
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with the Maurice Bernards, with the others, Whereas when he
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first started he couldn't hold his old because he didn't
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know who he was yet as an actor. But as
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he's finding that, he really he challenges everyone who has
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seen he's in the scene with and fortunately he has
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off the chart chemistry with Braden Blumer. And you know,
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you can't fake chemistry. The audience sees it. We see
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it if it's not there. You know, you see couples where,
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oh they're sweet or whatever, but the electricity between the
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two of them, it's so soulful and moving. It's it's
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really a great example of young love on the show
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the Kanye used to think of in the seventies. In
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the eighties General Hospital Love in the afternoon, These young
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couples you watch them blossom in front of you, but
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they can't blossom if they're not talented or they don't
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have chemistry. So that's a great example of somebody that,
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to answer your question, hadn't done anything, but we saw
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potential and in these in these situations, they really lived
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up to the potential that we were hoping for, in fact,
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surpassed it. I would say, I.
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Want to tell it Ryan because he's been on our show.
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He's a friend of the show. We know Ryan, and
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he made jokes about his own acting early on.
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Comes up with ten Man, all these things and we
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are say, any but you know, he does have presence.
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about Jez.
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Everybody chat was like geo g I'm like, yes, even
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here in our show, we have noticed some of the
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early days like okay, and now they brandony do they
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have their things? But everyone's bringing up right now bring
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to your attention and we agree. I figure name is Paige.
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He plays Jacinda. Ye find her.
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We love her. So originally it was going to be
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a I want to say, four or five episode role
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I'm like, with each one, you want to try to
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find an actor where maybe they'll catch the imagination of
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the producers and writers and they'll start or the audience
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and they'll start writing. So I did. I saw hundreds
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of actresses for that role. Four or five episodes, but hundreds,
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and I sent Frank my final So I saw hundreds,
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and I sent Frank the auditions. I sent ten auditions,
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and I got to tell you this particular group of auditions,
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they were all good, Like there was just wow. And
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he immediately wrote back Page. So we hired Page and
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on the first day, people from the control room the
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producers called it. This girl's good. There's really something there.
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how to act. Before she started, she had done an
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amazing guest star on Lauren Order that I had seen,
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playing an abused victim, very deep emotion. This was a
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very different character for her, but she held her own
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and her work as such nuance to it. The fact
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that she's here. It's kind of been well over a
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year after starting on six episodes because people saw what
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your viewers see or what you see, and they started writing. Now.
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I don't think anybody necessarily anticipated this magical chemistry with
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Rory Gibson. I don't think it was ever like Michael's
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going to fall in love which is Cinda and they
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are going to be this great couple. But all of
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a sudden they had scenes and you're watching the taping
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thinking something's going on here. There's a real nuance connection
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that you know, again, you can't plan for that. That
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chemistry is there, and Frank saw it, the writer saw it,
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and they just started writing it. She works all the
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time now, so it's also a credit to page. She
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took six episodes and turned it into this giant run.
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Speaking of uh Rory, the subject of recasting, what are
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your how do you approach recasting? Because I had imagined it.
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where you want to kind of satisfy the viewers that
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love that love this character, but you want to be
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able to bring some new kind of view or twist
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to it with whichever actor that you are really looking
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to bring into the role.
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Right, that is an a fricking awesome question. That is
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a great question, and you kind of are in the
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ballpark where if it's a popular character that's left, you
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want to get somebody that can bring continuity to that character.
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You need somebody that can't. I think you should thread
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the needle, find that line between making it their own
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while still respecting the character. But at the end of
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the day, any recast has to put their own stamp
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on it. They're not trying to copy what went before.
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You can't do that. And you know Laura Wright is
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she is Carly, but she's also the third actress to
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play the role. But you'd never know she's made it
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her own in the past twenty years. When you get
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the right person, they take the role and they run
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and make it their own. Rory not be any different
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than Chad, but that guy's magic and he brings to
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it a completely different sensibility. And yet he is Michael
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Corinthos and he's got the charisma, presence, the intensity, the vulnerability,
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the range. And on his first day of taping when
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he bursts into the new nurse's ball and walks down
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and takes while he says, come on, you're coming with
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me and walked out. That was Michael, and even then
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the audience was like, whoa, who is this dude? Then
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you've got this intensity. He's got a very brooding presence
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that's a little different than the first Then Chad, they
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have different sensibilities, but he made it his own. And
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then you've got this intense, dynamic guy. And then the
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next episode he's got this beautiful scene where he puts
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Wiley down in bed, kisses him and starts crying, and
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all of a sudden, he's got this wealth of pain
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and vulnerability to go with his intensity and say okay.
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was off the charts instantly, which is very unusual to
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recast because usually people want to grow into it, they
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need time. But people love this guy and it's not
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a reflection on Chatch that was fantastic who played the
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role for over a decade. Love him, but Rory made
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it his own. We weren't looking for somebody to do
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a carbon copy. And Rory is great with whoever he's
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in with the scene. He's whether it's Willow stunning, it's
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just and he's also hell of a nice guy.
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Yes, he's a friend of a friend of mine, friends
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of the show he's been on. He's hell of a
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nice guy. The thing is, you're absolutely right. I had
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never seen this. I haven't seen I should never say
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I haven't seen this in a long time. The audience
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respond was basically unanimous. The best recasting. Yeah, but for
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you as as a cat, it must make you feel
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I mean, you didn't write the show, you fad, you
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casted him, but you but one that you feel good
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on some too, like your gut was right, You're good.
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It makes you, It makes you feel it makes you
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feel great, and you know you can't pull that off
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if you don't have a boss who sees what you see.
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So I always consider collaborative. I bring to the table
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these possibilities, but the final decision, Frank h the writers
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look at this stuff. It's almost like my job is
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to give options. But in my opinion, there was no option.
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It was once you saw Rory and screen test, there
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you go. And there were a lot of good actors.
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But yeah, he's he's made it his own. Another actor
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who had never done anything was Michael Sutton, who played Stone. Yeah,
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he was I want to say eighteen ish. When he
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got the role, he hadn't done a thing, but there
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was this sweetness, this soulfulness, and by the end of
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his few years he was magnificent. When he died in
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the bed and he said, I see you, Robin. Thing
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was exquisite. But when he started he wasn't that actor.
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But again, it comes down to seeing something in an
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actor where you feel you can invest in him or
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her and watch them grow, and you hope the audience
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goes on that journey with you. And he screen tested
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with seven guys and they had all done much more
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than him. There were two Emmy winners in that talent test,
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and he got it. And I always tell actors don't
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compare yourself to anyone in the room because you're all there,
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because you're all competing for the same job. It might be.
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You don't psyche yourself out by oh, that person's done this,
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because that's a great example of the best person for
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the role got the role. The other actors were wonderful,
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Michael Sutton was the right fit. So those stories exist
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throughout the history of daytime, whether it's any show, but
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on our show, you can't be on the air sixty
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three years. If you're not finding incredible young people that
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can grow as artists and the audience grow with them.
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I want to bring up somebody.
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And it's not your fault the gone because this is
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a writer's choice or whatever, because that's as your approach
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to bringing in people who are known onto the show.
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Gregory Harrison, I thought, what inspired choice? What A went around?
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I mean we're talking trapper John, We're talking going way back,
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good looking older that's an older man, the older sets,
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chemistry went by anybody whatever. Yeah, how do you approach
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that when when someone who's actually known in many of
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the television circles you're bringing into daytime? Because I mean,
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what a So we're sad he's gone. We saw so
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much potential in story.
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I understand, I understand.
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Beautiful work while he was on the show, and we
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just we loved him, you know, like bringing to Max Gale,
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bringing to my hippie people we know from other things
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for Nay Watson, like those kindeple. But you brought up
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I just want to see. I love, we both love
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Gregory Harson, his character. We just thought that he was
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from So how do you approach that?
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Well? The flip side of finding all these young, incredible
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potential talents is bringing in veterans that can take roles
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and make it their own. Their body of work brings
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to them, brings with them something that balances out the show.
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And I'm going to answer that question specifically, but I'm
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a sports fan. I could like so the baseball to
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ABC owns the team. Frank Valentini's the manager, I'm the
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I'm the U. I want to say, GM, I have
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to find for that team rookies who could break out
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and veterans that you know can deliver to create a
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full team. So whenever we're looking for an established actor
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for a role, you look it's you're not necessarily uncovering somebody,
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but you're looking at a wide range of actors that
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have incredible talent and then seeing if they're the right
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fit for the role. We offered it to Gregory. He
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happened to be available and interested. He'd never done a soap.
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It came right down to the way we'd seen a
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lot of guys hadn't yet founded, and he decided, I'm
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going to take a leap of faith and go for it.
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And to his credit, he was magnificent for those three years,
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like be beyond expectation. And I hate to say it,
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but he's also an incredibly nice guy. I know I
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keeps saying that, but I've spent a lot of time
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with the particularly the night of the Emmys, and the
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graciousness of this guy. He loved being on the show,
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and someone like a Max Gail, for example, a working actor,
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very established. His big awards were from Barney Miller when
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he played you, a comedic character, but he was an
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actor that you know, we honed in a lot of actors,
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and then we brought in eight actors to read with
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Maurice to see the chemistry and the father son chemistry. Now,
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this waiting room was filled with there's not an actor
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in that waiting room that you wouldn't know from something
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because actors want jobs. But when he read with Maurice
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and left, you know, Maurice turned to Frank Me and
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the other producers and his face was like, that's my dad.
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Like you could feel like that's my dad. It was
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just this incredible chemistry and so believable. And then Max,
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who'd never done this kind of role before, got to
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play this amazing role with an intense storyline in real time,
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not six episodes, over years, the gradual fading away of Mike,
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and he was His scenes of conflict with Maurice were
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fiery and intense, his scenes of pain, he made the
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character so empathetic. Now he had all of those skills,
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but maybe the audience hadn't seen the full range of
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those skills. But he was a veteran actor that could
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bring all of that that to it. The Brenee, What
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can you say? Renee? Is you know there's a reason
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sweet she's doing a lot of series regulars and juggling
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it with us.
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Yes she is.
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I believe she's recurring up presumed innocent. We got to
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juggle that. She was on Bob Hart's app Shola. Yes,
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he's incredible. And here's a funny little story about best
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tell us about I want to say about it twenty
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years ago. She's a really good day player on the
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show of a woman that ran a homeless shelter, something
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like that. And when the role Christella came up, Elizabeth Cordy,
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who's one of our head writers who's been with the
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show as long as I have, really and as a history,
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she said, she said, can you bring in that actress?
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She worked like six seven years ago she was running
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the daycare center or something I said for Renee Watson.
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So she was going to come the name of it,
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but just it was just it was already in a
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writer's mind. We brought we brought these actresses in and
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they read with Denelle and what can you say? Verne
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is Renee in extraordinary talent and so that created magic.
480
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And she's been there for forever, not forever, but you know,
481
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for well over a decade. But you know, she is
482
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an incredible artist. Just really she's a real talent. Another
483
00:29:27.039 --> 00:29:29.839
person that had never done data before was Jeff Kober.
484
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.920
Oh, Jeff, and you know that was a great role.
485
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:39.279
He was one in a million. And for that, you know,
486
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I looked at a lot of actor auditions, a lot
487
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of reels. I was looking for an established actor who
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could be a bad guy, but not a conventional boring
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bad guy, like who can bring something unique and different.
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And so I sent like ten actor reels. They're an
491
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actor reels when a and that real is their body
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of work scenes And Frank Wahing wrote back, higher Jeff,
493
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and to say Jeff has been was incredible. Uh, And
494
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it's funny because he played a really vile hein his character,
495
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but he humanized him, like there were times you really
496
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felt for this character. But the funniest thing about that
497
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is he's playing a real he murders people, but in
498
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real life I had taken to medication class, the series
499
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of classes that he led, he was a meditation teacher,
500
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and so you got the most then dude playing the
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most heinous criminals. So that's talk about, you know, a dichotomy.
502
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Yes, he's I mean, we loved we just hit and
503
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the way they wrote it was so funny that we
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almost everything were like, this guy is not how to
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read the room.
506
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He just does whatever he wants.
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There's a lot of fun, and there's any mean and
508
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and and to connect him with Jeannie Francis and Michael
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whoa making them siblings genius.
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Yeah.
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I don't know how they came up with that. I
512
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was just looking for a really bad guy. And but
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00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:15.920
their scenes were really really interesting, like a chess match,
514
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:21.400
and you actually felt a brother's sister when he'd say
515
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to our sister.
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00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:27.599
A couple of scenes where where there's ones where Genny
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00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:29.640
jumps kind of and I'm like, is that for real?
518
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:32.240
What do you like? A snap on it? Because he
519
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.960
wanted when the character wanted her love so and accept
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him so bad and she was excusing to give it
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to him.
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I mean, just yeah, totally.
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Mark.
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On the other side of the coin, I can't imagine
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through your through your time and as cast casting director,
526
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your rolodex is huge, and so I'm sure in the
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auditions there are those actors that you're like, a, you're
528
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almost there, but not you're not quite right for this role,
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or you're not white there yet for like to see
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the potential that you want to see for a role.
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But I do think that there could be something in
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the future, like how does that work for you? Like,
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are there actors that you work with that you're like
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in that right now? But I'm going to keep you
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in mind. There's something downline, Greig, where are you coming
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up with these amazing questions?
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That? Hell did that conference?
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He's good?
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Good?
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Wow.
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Many of the actors that have been cast on the
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show had auditioned for other roles and you remember them
543
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and they stay with you. I'll give you a couple
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of examples if you'd like.
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Please.
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Tamra Braun read for me when Sarah Brown was playing
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very successfully Carly and for whatever weird reason, I wrote
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00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:55.920
in my notes, if we ever recast Carly now, I
549
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.039
can't explain why. It's not like she was the clone
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of Sarah Brown, which goes back to the earlier You're
551
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:04.400
not trying to do a carbon copy. But it just
552
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made sense and we were recasting the role. Obviously she
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00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.799
got it. But the story behind that is we saw
554
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.519
a lot of people and I'm not telling a story
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out of school. Tamer has told this story. She decided
556
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I'm done acting. I don't want to do it anymore.
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I just been for a while. Her agents had to
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00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.079
talk her into going in on General Hospital. She said,
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I'm not interested, but it was a request just at
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least play this last one out. So here's an actor
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that's ready to get in the car and now has
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become so dynamic, it's such a force in daytime and
563
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.640
made it her own. But that's because I remembered her
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from a previous audition. This happens all the time, where
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we might cast an actor that we liked from an
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audition a year ago. Two years ago, Carlo Rota had
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come in to read for a role that he didn't get,
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but he was amazing and he read with Laura Wright
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in the room and he was incredible, Like, it's kind
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of an amazing actor. So Sidwell, the role of Sidwell comes up.
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So I put together eight or nine ideas to send
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Frank of established actors, and I put Carlo up top
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and I said, Frank, you really liked him when he
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read for you six months ago. Within two minutes, Frank
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wrote back in an email, hire him because he had
576
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.519
remembered Carlow from this incredible reading. He just wasn't write
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00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:46.719
for that first role, but because he left such an
578
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:52.960
indelible impact from his previous audition, he was the guy.
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He was the guy. And many of the roles that
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the caster people from that we've seen previously, where we'll
581
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:04.159
go back and I'll look at past auditions, come up
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with ideas, and we've put them on the show. It happens.
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00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.480
It's really nice when that happens, you know. I tell
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actors who sometimes get frustrated they feel like, I've auditioned
585
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:20.840
so many times for the show. Well, it's not your time.
586
00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.039
But the fact that you're auditioning multiple times means we
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like you or I like you, and then maybe it's
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their time. The sixth time is the charm or whatever.
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00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.599
I've had actors that have auditioned for casting office that
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do multiple series, you know, the NCIS is whatever, and
591
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:44.400
they say, I've auditioned for that out office like five times.
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They've never gotten cast. I said, have you auditioned for
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00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:51.119
multiple shows for them? She goes, yeah, Well they like
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00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:53.519
you because they keep auditioning you for their different projects.
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00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.360
So rather than view the frustration, think about it as
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they're looking to find a way to hire you. And
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if actor can have that mindset, it's actually very liberating
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00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:07.000
and by the way, very empowering. Okay, they want to
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00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:10.159
see me again, I'm bringing something to the table, not
600
00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.679
here we go again. And so for me, we've act
601
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:17.159
we've auditioned actors multiple times. But then when the right
602
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:21.880
role comes along and the timing's right, that's where the
603
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:22.480
magic is.
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I like, I like that switch up and then you're right.
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It's like they're calling you in because they like you
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00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:31.519
to feel like there's somewhere for you. Yes, that role,
607
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.719
just just me submit. It just could be anything. Why
608
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.000
you're not getting hired, But we're going we're gonna keep
609
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.039
bring you in because we're thinking we're gonna find exactly
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like that.
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And in daytime, we're we're on every day and there's
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00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:48.119
constant new characters. I better be that role index of
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00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:52.000
who's come in before that we like, who's who's come
614
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.639
in and then go back and watch previous auditions and
615
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.760
things like that, and that's my job.
616
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:00.639
Mark you've also done because we had we had Adrian
617
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Chanda on and we talked to him where he was
618
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.159
on Frank he was a doctor in this one like episode,
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but he brought him back for a role. Right, you
620
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:11.280
have that too, So you must have people who do
621
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come to under five.
622
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Or yes, and then we bring them back later. So
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he had played an emergency room doctor maybe a year
624
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.800
or two earlier, and he was very right for this role,
625
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.360
which was a complete different character than an emergency room doctor.
626
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:31.079
And it didn't matter that he'd done the show before.
627
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.920
I mean, I guess the best example of this would
628
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:41.760
be Chloe Lanier originally appeared in the Luke the Flashback
629
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episodes with Luke and Bobby and the Father the Black
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and White episodes. That one episode was one episode, so
631
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:55.039
she played the young Dee Wallace on the show. He
632
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:57.599
was on the show, but it was a she had
633
00:37:57.599 --> 00:38:00.519
a lot to do with the episode flash. But it
634
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:03.679
was a big episode. It wasn't like small, she was significant.
635
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:09.920
And then about maybe a year later, Frank says, we
636
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got this role coming up, and I want Chloe Lanier
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to play because of the work she did in that
638
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:26.880
one episode left such a magical impression on the boss
639
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:30.400
and she so we made her contract role in the
640
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.199
new role because but it would have happened had she
641
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not nailed that one day that she was on General
642
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Hospital earlier.
643
00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.760
There's no there's no small parts that they always say,
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there's no small parts.
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You know. I feel like whatever the role is, it's
646
00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:48.280
a chance for an actor to be present, to be
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00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:54.320
on set. You never know what's going to happen, and
648
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:56.960
many times it is just that one role and that's it.
649
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.719
It's a one off. In fact, that's probably mostly the case.
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00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:05.519
But so many times something happens and they take to
651
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:07.800
that actor and all of a sudden, that character starts
652
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:13.199
to come back. Carolyn Hennessy I hired her over twenty
653
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.880
years ago for a three episode role of Diane. They're like,
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00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:21.119
we want to a feisty, dynamic attorney. I had seen
655
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a play that she was in and I was like,
656
00:39:24.199 --> 00:39:26.159
I went to see a friend in it, but I
657
00:39:26.239 --> 00:39:31.239
hired her, and so three episodes has become what I
658
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.760
don't even know. But she didn't, you know, she ca said, oh,
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00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:40.360
three rolls, three days, yes, and bang, there you have it.
660
00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:45.280
Kathleen Gotti. Her character was a three episode doctor. Maybe
661
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:52.840
maybe maybe three or four episodes. And look and so
662
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:59.000
they see something and the actor brings something interesting and suddenly, okay,
663
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maybe we can keep them on the canvas. Things like that.
664
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Harry Shan another one, another one.
665
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:10.440
Harry Sham was supposed to be a sleezy well still
666
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:13.280
giz but it was supposed to be a sleezy laptech,
667
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:17.119
a little creepy three episodes.
668
00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:20.039
Big rag Hooper though rag Hooper really, but it was.
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It was a three episode. It was three and done.
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So again, it's one of those things where if an
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actor comes in and does a good job, it doesn't
672
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always happen, but there's they're creating a possibility to be
673
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memorable and to stick around if the story lays itself
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out that way, or maybe they can write something in
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And that's the magic of daytime for an actor. You
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00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.559
step on that set and you know, you never know
677
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:53.760
What's what's gonna happen? Okay, Joycecott, Oh I love Joyce. Yeah, okay,
678
00:40:54.159 --> 00:41:00.360
great story. So we had a two role episode of
679
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:05.280
Nina's Nurse from the Past. Her first two episodes were
680
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scenes with Nina rehashing the past two episodes. Frank walked
681
00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.760
up her and sat and said, I'm going to find
682
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.599
a way to bring you back. And then she had
683
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:22.599
this huge storyline for two years because in those two episodes,
684
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like frid was like, Okay, let's not lose her, Let's
685
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keep her.
686
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:31.800
Yeah, and I gotta mention Lydia look absolutely Oh one
687
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last thing about Joyce.
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00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:34.199
Guy, this is amazing. And then I'll talk to you
689
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about Lydia. And by the way, Lydia is the best
690
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example you can give of no role is too small.
691
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:43.760
And I'll explain with Joyce. We were just starting the
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00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:50.119
process of casting that role. And one night I'm watching
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the show. I watched a lot of television because I
694
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.440
like television, but I like to see actors, and all
695
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:57.440
of a sudden, I didn't know who she was, and
696
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:04.840
she comes on like really good. So I get my
697
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.440
phone out and I filmed thirty seconds of the scene
698
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:10.239
and I texted to Frank, he goes hire her.
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00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.960
Oh my god, oh wow.
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One night I just texted him and he says, do
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00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:20.480
it so literally, she showed up by Miss Green and
702
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bang so her credit when Frank said to her, I'm
703
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going to bring you back. He brought her back with
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a big.
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Storyline or the thing is her works book for himself in.
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00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.039
That moment speaks for itself. Lydia, is you know an
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00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.800
answer to your question of one of you just said
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no rules too small? Lydia started, I'm going to say
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twenty years ago, maybe as an under five meaning five
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lines or less. They had a storyline with three heads
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of the family meeting with Sonny and they were all
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under five. It was Lydia and two other mobsters on
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00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:06.159
the show. But she was and she did a couple
714
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:09.719
of episodes under five. She was really good. She was
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an actress that had auditioned or whatever for us. But
716
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and then like she wasn't on the show for years
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00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:21.519
after that, and then they read the character back and
718
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like suddenly they're writing her. They give her a first name, Selena.
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She was miss Wu but that was from taking an
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under five three four lines in an episode, not like
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you know what I don't want to do three four lines.
722
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.320
I have an opportunity to play a character on the
723
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:41.039
show and then disappear and it comes back full force
724
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with major story and really found a way to make
725
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that character interesting in her own And if she didn't,
726
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.880
I'm sure they wouldn't be writing her as much as
727
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.719
they did and involving her in so many storylines. That's
728
00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:58.400
an example where there was no small actor. There was
729
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:02.199
an actor that had a supporting role but decided I'm
730
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gonna make something magic out of this.
731
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She did the fans, I mean just I mean, and
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then a chat talking about the fans, just like it's
733
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like who do like?
734
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Who was Like?
735
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It was like first like who is this? Like if
736
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.400
she would walk into the room, just her walk into
737
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:19.440
the room, You're like, who is that? You couldn't keep
738
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:20.239
your eyes off from?
739
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:20.599
Yeah?
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Yeah, it's just like she has that in quality, I
741
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mean a chance to hear an interviewer and I just
742
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love her pieces.
743
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But just like but it's like she came on she
744
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just like you're.
745
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:36.679
Like that, WHOA? And yet I bet you don't even
746
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.119
remember her from her under five part twenty years ago,
747
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:43.960
which established until they brought her back as the same character.
748
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So to Lydia's credible.
749
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Oh right.
750
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.559
In the in years, especially with COVID and all that
751
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:56.960
stuff and auditions going more virtual. For you now that
752
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.559
we're we're past that in a different state, how much
753
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.960
of you work is virtual, how much of it is
754
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:06.400
in person? How much of it is just tape submissions?
755
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:08.880
And what do you prefer? What do you enjoy most
756
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.480
when you're getting a chance to work with the actor?
757
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:16.079
Well, three COVID, the auditions were in the room. COVID
758
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.119
changed the landscape of auditioning, not just for general hospital
759
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:26.559
but for the industry. So it's double edged sword. Actors
760
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:30.079
miss the in person process because the majority of auditions
761
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.880
for projects are self tapes. And I might add the
762
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:36.800
majority of roles get cast from their self tapes Page
763
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:44.400
Chel example. But all my initial auditions are self tapes
764
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:50.599
the day players get cast off their self tapes, even
765
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recurring roles where we see what we see, but when
766
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:57.519
it's a role where we need to have them see
767
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:01.920
chemistry with another actor for those roles after their initial
768
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:05.320
self tape, we will bring actors to read with other
769
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.760
actors on the show so we can see their chemistry.
770
00:46:09.199 --> 00:46:14.039
So we probably do more in person readings in that
771
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:17.559
sense than a lot of shows, just because chemistry is
772
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.039
so important. But the majority of the auditions are through
773
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:27.559
the self tape. Now I know actors misconnecting in the room,
774
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:30.119
and so what I tell actors is I get that
775
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.119
it's a connection energy. But your job is to connect
776
00:46:34.159 --> 00:46:37.440
with your work instantly from the moment your audition comes up.
777
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:40.119
That's your moment. Because I still have to see it
778
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:44.440
on screen, so I do miss the in person aspect.
779
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:48.000
But I will tell you this, because of self tapes,
780
00:46:48.199 --> 00:46:51.039
I can see many more actors than I could in person,
781
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.079
So I have a much wider range of actors that
782
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:58.280
I've never seen before, which creates possibility of finding new
783
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.400
people that might not have gotten opportunity to read. So,
784
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:08.480
for example, you know, if you're casting multiple roles at once,
785
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:12.199
and I can see forty five actors a day, so
786
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.320
I could see two hundred maybe for a role, but
787
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.400
here I can see many more. I saw hundreds and
788
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:22.199
hundreds of actresses for Jacinda, but in real time I
789
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:24.559
probably couldn't have seen hundreds of actresses because I was
790
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:27.960
working on other roles. So I can see actors all
791
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.920
the time, day, night, weekend. I view anywhere from five
792
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:39.480
to seven hundred audition a week because I'm always working
793
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:42.719
on multiple roles, so for me, I have a giant
794
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.800
pool to pull from. Now, actors are very frustrated that
795
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.639
don't get in the room, But I tell actors, I
796
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.679
get that, but you're actually have the possibility of getting
797
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.760
more auditions. Because my cast directors and I have discussed this,
798
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:59.000
we're much more open seeing many more actors to give
799
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:02.360
people a chance because we don't have time constraints. But
800
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:04.159
being in the room for a lot of actors is
801
00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:09.559
still a nerve wrecking experience. I remember when Carlo came
802
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:13.639
in to read and it was a room of recognizable
803
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:17.119
actors and there were like seven and they all said
804
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:20.880
the same thing, this is my first in person audition
805
00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:25.039
in years, and I'm actually very nervous because and they've
806
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:28.079
been getting cast but through their self taped at that point.
807
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.880
So you know, we have found our way back with
808
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:38.280
the in person in those situations. So we'll have actors read.
809
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:42.079
We whittled it down. We had Andy Hawks, who plays
810
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:46.400
color read with Laura Wright. When we were casting Vaughn.
811
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.480
We had eight actors read with Eden to see the
812
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:54.079
chemistry in the room. So those parts the initial audition
813
00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.639
is on taping. You've got to capture us right there
814
00:48:57.760 --> 00:48:59.880
with your work has to be so good and present
815
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:03.440
that we're watching you and want to go to the
816
00:49:03.440 --> 00:49:05.719
next step. So we do have in person auditions for
817
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.840
those kind of situations.
818
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:11.840
Well, you mentioned your other casting directors, I work with
819
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:13.960
you and for you. How how do you build that
820
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.679
team up over the years in terms of like finding
821
00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.960
a team that you trust because so many submissions, I
822
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.199
imagine you know it's more than one person could do.
823
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:24.880
But how do you build a team that you know that.
824
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:27.840
The first of all, I view every submission that comes in.
825
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.480
Oh wow, I view every audition that comes in. It's
826
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not a situation of half the people are taken that well,
827
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my team, It's kind of funny, was there before I
828
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.360
got there. When I got the job, my associate, Lisa
829
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:44.039
Snedeker Booth was already working as the associate on the show,
830
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:46.559
and I was moved out from New York to do
831
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.920
the show, and on my first day she was there.
832
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So I had my team, and we had an assisted
833
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.559
Gwen Hillier, but we had a team from the first day,
834
00:49:57.079 --> 00:50:01.719
and so Lisa was with us for many years, and
835
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then she left the show to cast Sunset Beach and
836
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then she had two kids, guys, they're both in their
837
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:14.119
like twenties, great kids, and then she came back. So
838
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Lisa's been basically my core team for on and off
839
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for these thirty five years. So the team was there,
840
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:24.519
and we have great trust in each other. We like
841
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:27.679
to view auditions together. Who do we like, what do
842
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:31.039
we think. Gwen Hilliart was my associate for a number
843
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:33.559
of years. But there's a lot of continuity. I have
844
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:36.400
not gone through well, I guess you could say I've
845
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:39.920
only had two associates in thirty six years, so lots
846
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:46.280
of continuity there. But you know, at one point when
847
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:50.199
Lisa left, it's like, okay, people are you going to leave?
848
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.719
If they want to go somewhere else, get another show
849
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:56.239
that comes up, and things like that, which is the
850
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:58.840
nature of cast, and you watch people grow in front
851
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.639
of you and move on. Most of the great cast directors.
852
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.199
At what point where somebody's assistant or associate, you just
853
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.280
have to be willing to collaborate and share ideas and
854
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.840
view things together. It's more fun when I'm watching with
855
00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:13.679
someone and we're discussing what do you think?
856
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:14.119
It's just.
857
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:19.199
So that's how the team was there before I got there.
858
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.400
I have a question for question one of our one
859
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:26.559
of our viewers. First of all, we we have eighty
860
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:28.760
people watching, so eighty people say hello.
861
00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:30.360
Oh that's fantastic, that's great.
862
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:33.400
Oh say did you see As the person who asked this,
863
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.480
how does it work if an actor takes ill or
864
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.559
as a personal emergency, it's a short recrap recast is required.
865
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:41.400
How do you guys handle that?
866
00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:47.840
We handle it. We do it. It's probably the least
867
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:52.199
fun thing as a casting director, short term recast it started,
868
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:56.280
you know, but we've had situations where we've lost an
869
00:51:56.320 --> 00:52:00.280
actor last minute and my job is in twenty four hours.
870
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:06.880
You come up with an idea. So Jen Lilly, who
871
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:10.519
has had quite a career, she was an emergency recast
872
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:15.679
for Maxie at that time some years ago, and we
873
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:18.239
brought her in to read with Bradford Anderson. But that
874
00:52:18.360 --> 00:52:22.000
was a one day recast. But the majority of the
875
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:27.639
recasts have come with COVID. Back in the where I
876
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.920
would get a call from Frank Kesh we need somebody
877
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:37.000
to play whatever in two days, and you start to
878
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:39.760
get Okay, who could play that role? Or what role
879
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:45.639
have I cast previously where there's a similar sensibility, and
880
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:48.000
you look for those actors and then I'll show Frank
881
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:51.880
their auditions very quickly and make a decision. And I
882
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:59.880
will say during COVID we did have or five series
883
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:07.599
regular recast. And so it's very challenging because you can't
884
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:10.199
clone an actor, but you want somebody has the essence.
885
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:14.360
So in that short term there's a certain continuity, and
886
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:16.760
sometimes you get it right and other times it may
887
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:19.920
be not exactly the right sensibility. But you always want
888
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.519
to have a good actor who can play this story,
889
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:26.159
even if they're somewhat different than the actor that came
890
00:53:26.199 --> 00:53:26.719
before them.
891
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.599
Well, if I just want I wonder what the process
892
00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:33.079
itself though, is it? You have your rollock, go back
893
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:34.480
to the roll agents.
894
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:36.800
Well it's like that. It's like, okay, okay, we just
895
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:41.320
lost so and so, Okay, what actors do I know
896
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:45.440
that are similar? What actors have read for me for
897
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:47.760
other roles? And I go back to the auditions, could
898
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:51.360
be five years ago, I start watching auditions, or I
899
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:53.800
go back to actors that were submitted for it that
900
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:56.400
didn't get it, that were good, and then I come
901
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.400
up with a group, a small group to show Frank, Okay,
902
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:02.280
what about these five actors and he'll make a quick decision.
903
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:05.280
But I have to do the I mean, during COVID
904
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.960
there were times where I was about to head out
905
00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.360
to go shopping on a Sunday, and then I spent
906
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.079
the days staying in trying to come up with ideas
907
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:15.199
for somebody that had to COVID test the next morning.
908
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:19.840
But it's just you know, it's part of the it's
909
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:24.079
part of the gigs. It's part of the gig, and
910
00:54:24.119 --> 00:54:29.079
then so you just roll with it.
911
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:30.960
At this time, I just want to tell you, just
912
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:33.280
personally myself, I just want to chat mentioned it too.
913
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.719
I loved Lindsay Hartley and Sam. Whenever she would come in,
914
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.920
she was great. She came in full gusto everytime she
915
00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.679
played it, and I was just like, oh, okay, I've
916
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:44.679
met her before, but she's on other shows.
917
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:47.679
But it's just like, oh I love her. I love her.
918
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:50.559
She just example of who's right for the role, who's
919
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:56.079
right for the role, and she was available and it
920
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:59.840
was like okay, and can you get here tomorrow?
921
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:01.760
Right? That's all right?
922
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:06.159
The definition of a pro. Her work was fantastic. She
923
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.719
brought it. One of the most professional actresses I've ever
924
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:17.920
worked with. Where I believe when we hired her, I
925
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.960
think she was driving over from where she lived in
926
00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:24.760
her car, learning the lines on the way to the studio.
927
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:28.480
I love it. I love it.
928
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:31.519
You do what you do what you gotta do.
929
00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:32.000
You know what I mean?
930
00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:34.280
Do you do what you gotta do? But I love
931
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:40.360
her too, But it's just, uh, yeah, it's the least fun.
932
00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:43.639
But it's you know, it's part of the job. It's
933
00:55:43.719 --> 00:55:48.159
like you're paid for the challenges, not for the easy times.
934
00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:50.559
Although honestly, I don't think every I don't think. I
935
00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:53.880
never think, oh it's an easy time. If you know
936
00:55:54.559 --> 00:56:02.239
what drives me, guys, is my mindset. And I don't
937
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:04.679
know if it's healthy or not, but my mindset is
938
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:07.519
always I'm only as good as the last role I cast.
939
00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:13.599
That's what fuels me. H. That's not necessarily probably the
940
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:16.679
healthiest thing, but I'm driven with I'm only as good
941
00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:18.679
as the last role, like I do it again or whatever.
942
00:56:18.840 --> 00:56:21.679
So there's no just putting the feed up on the
943
00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:26.480
table and watching some auditions and oh, let's cast Joe blow.
944
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:32.360
Uh mark for you? Uh, what's the right what's the
945
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.920
actors cast in a role? What's what's your interactions with
946
00:56:35.960 --> 00:56:37.840
them at that point they're on the show, they're working.
947
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:39.880
Do you have much contact with them? Do they reach
948
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:40.639
out to you advice?
949
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:43.239
Do you once they're on the Once they're on the show,
950
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:48.320
they're sort of in the domain of production, the producers
951
00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:54.719
and everything. But you develop a relationship with actors that
952
00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.039
you've cast. You're we're talking about series regulars because from
953
00:56:58.039 --> 00:56:59.960
the day players, I meet them the day they work
954
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:03.360
and go down and I always introduce myself, but you know,
955
00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.199
I'm their point person in terms of shepherding them through
956
00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:10.840
the process. So there's a comfort level and a safety level.
957
00:57:10.880 --> 00:57:14.039
So I'll always go down in those opening days, see
958
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.239
them in the dressing room, chat with them, make them
959
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:20.400
feel comfortable. I'll go up on set and watch the
960
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.639
taping down on set. I'm on the fifth floor of
961
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:27.440
the sets on a few now, I have the monitor
962
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.400
that shows the taping. I watch it every day, but
963
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:32.239
I like to go down to the set when it's
964
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:36.719
somebody new and just be fifteen feet away watching them work.
965
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:41.159
But you definitely, and at times they cut like Giovanni
966
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:43.800
came to me a lot in those early days with
967
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:50.039
advice on how to approach a scene. I remember before
968
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.440
the nurses boss called me on Saturday to talk about
969
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:57.199
some things and I gave him some advice and so
970
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:00.920
he was hungry for what can I do? So I
971
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:04.159
my door is always open and I have a great
972
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:08.039
relationship with all those actors, and some come in if
973
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:10.320
they need advice, but most once they're on the show,
974
00:58:11.400 --> 00:58:15.840
there's so many people taking care of them and guiding
975
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.079
them in terms of the character. You've got Frank, You've
976
00:58:19.159 --> 00:58:23.440
got our other producers. You've got m K. Michelle, Jennifer,
977
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:28.039
the three other and they are guiding the actors with
978
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:32.400
questions and helping them find that performance and discover that character.
979
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:35.480
And Frank's very hands on with a new characters, really
980
00:58:35.519 --> 00:58:38.840
working with them on set during the show to establish that.
981
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:42.440
So they don't need me that much once they've gotten
982
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:46.880
the show. But there's a bond that has been formed
983
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:49.519
that you know will last a lifetime.
984
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:53.519
I have a wonder for the Nurse's Ball, one of
985
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:58.920
my favorite, but it's for many reasons when Jay does that,
986
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:03.239
but for those scenes discovering actors' other abilities because you know,
987
00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.079
I mean, we just know them from the characters that
988
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.760
they play. Learning Like you know, Giovanni comes and we
989
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:10.360
knew him playing the violin, but really getting to see
990
00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.719
his performance at the Nurses Ball it was more than
991
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:15.280
just like seeing the rehearsals that we'd see him do
992
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:17.920
at the Mansion or something. Really getting to see him
993
00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:19.840
to do a performance is amazing. So for you, what
994
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:22.960
is it like to be able to see those actors
995
00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:26.639
get opportunities to show off talents that we as viewers.
996
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:31.199
It's new talents to me because we don't know when
997
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:33.239
we cast them a series regularly on the show what
998
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:35.559
their talents are. I mean, we knew Wali could sing
999
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:40.440
and things like that, but usually they'll write the episodes
1000
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:43.280
and they'll reach out and say, hey, I'll get an
1001
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:46.320
email from the head writer. Do you happen to know
1002
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:48.840
if so and so sings? And then we'll find out.
1003
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:53.239
But it's discovery as we go along. Although although some
1004
00:59:53.440 --> 01:00:03.800
years back the year we cast Resa Dorkin oh yeah,
1005
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:09.559
and Deanni Collins and they've recurred as major nurses and
1006
01:00:09.639 --> 01:00:18.159
characters through the years. So Frank said, listen for the
1007
01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:23.679
Nurse's Ball. I want to add two nurses that we
1008
01:00:23.719 --> 01:00:25.960
know can sing but can be part of the fabric
1009
01:00:26.039 --> 01:00:30.159
of the show. So before leading up, the audience knows
1010
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:31.880
who they are and we can use them after the
1011
01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:35.679
Nurs's Ball. So part of that audition was finding people
1012
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:37.280
that could sing, and they hadn't sing in the room
1013
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:42.199
in front of us, so they had the acting scene
1014
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.559
and then we asked them to sing a song. And
1015
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.920
so we hired those two to build them up to
1016
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:50.400
that Nurse's Ball. This was some years ago, but they're
1017
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:54.840
still on the show. Like Amy, they wanted a gossipy nurse,
1018
01:00:55.239 --> 01:00:57.440
you know, carrying on the tradition of the original Amy
1019
01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:01.679
years ago and so recent did a great job of
1020
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.559
being that character and could sing and be layered into
1021
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:10.360
the show and say with Deani. So those were times
1022
01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.280
where we actually knew for those two, we want to
1023
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:17.360
have actresses that can sing to utilize them in the
1024
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:18.000
Nurse's Ball.
1025
01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:21.400
Well, if you ever need to host to host the
1026
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:29.280
look no, I be happy to do it for sure.
1027
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:33.239
George has got that a lock, so he's on lock.
1028
01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:37.920
He's on lock. That's funny, we're host.
1029
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.280
Also, I want to ask you kept you long enough,
1030
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:44.639
but just come and ask you're guys.
1031
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:53.079
You guys are asking really unusually great questions and very nuanced.
1032
01:01:53.320 --> 01:01:55.239
Thank you we tried.
1033
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:58.199
And they also always like talking about the show. You know,
1034
01:01:59.880 --> 01:02:03.320
I love the show. I spent over half my life
1035
01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:06.679
casting the show. Over half my life has been in
1036
01:02:06.679 --> 01:02:11.119
that studio, and so I feel like an ambassador to
1037
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:15.559
the show. I'm always happy to talk about the show
1038
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:18.400
and the process and share my excitement about the show,
1039
01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:20.920
about the actors. So it's my pleasure to do.
1040
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:23.559
Oh, thank you. Well, I want to go back for
1041
01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:27.199
a second. Do you remember your first couple actors you cast?
1042
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:30.320
I do? Indeed, do you really you remember?
1043
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:30.679
Okay?
1044
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:39.400
I can, yes. So the first actor I cast was
1045
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:42.519
Honors hove Asse.
1046
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:45.920
Whoa and wait.
1047
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:48.960
He was the first actor to read for the role,
1048
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:52.360
literally the first guy that walked in. I'd been at
1049
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:58.039
the show all of a couple of months. And it's
1050
01:02:58.079 --> 01:03:03.400
a scene where phase on it's saying, look at the
1051
01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:07.639
sky and the refracted like poetry. It comes in the
1052
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:10.679
room and it goes to my giant window and he
1053
01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:13.760
puts his hand on it. He starts looking out the
1054
01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:18.920
window and the line was something like blue refracted light.
1055
01:03:19.480 --> 01:03:26.079
And I'm like and We tested other guys, but we
1056
01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:28.679
cast Honors. But he was the first role I cast,
1057
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:33.159
in fact, the first audition for that role. I love
1058
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:36.400
that story. And he was he was fairly new to
1059
01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:42.320
la he was from Denmark. He was extraordinary.
1060
01:03:42.559 --> 01:03:43.079
Wow.
1061
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:46.880
And by the way, and another example of he probably
1062
01:03:46.920 --> 01:03:52.599
the most famous villain we've ever had. Literally the sweetest
1063
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:55.199
guy I've ever met, Like he'll do anything for the
1064
01:03:55.239 --> 01:03:58.639
show and he's so kind. It's funny how the really
1065
01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:02.960
bad characters to be exceptionally nice people. But Honors was
1066
01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.440
the first, and so it's a great feeling that he
1067
01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:07.639
was the one.
1068
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:11.559
How much I mean, yeah, that's we go on about
1069
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:14.599
how he's now infused Inh's history.
1070
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:18.760
More yeah today today. And he looked very different. He
1071
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:21.679
didn't have the wild white hair and the beard and
1072
01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:26.880
like a mad Sciences. He was this very interesting, very handsome,
1073
01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:30.639
offbeat looking at In fact, he had been Denmark's sexiest
1074
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:34.639
man two years before we cast him. He looked different,
1075
01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:38.320
he was different. And then as he changed and evolved
1076
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:41.119
and the role did, he really embraced I'm going to
1077
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:43.639
go this direction and made it his own.
1078
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:49.800
Wow, that's asked that question, Well, who are the first
1079
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:50.360
female you.
1080
01:04:51.199 --> 01:05:03.280
Hired maybe a Sea Robinson who played Meg on the show.
1081
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:06.880
She was only there for a year or so because
1082
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:09.599
when the regime changed, they eliminated a lot of the
1083
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:14.480
new characters on the show. Laura Herron, I think was
1084
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.280
this was pre Mulholland Drives. She was one of the
1085
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:23.360
first two or three females that were cast on the show. Okay,
1086
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:25.159
a series regulars.
1087
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:28.280
Yeah, Banner's whole thing alone, just like right there, Like
1088
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:30.320
that's just yeah, that's right there.
1089
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:32.199
That's a major history.
1090
01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:37.400
Speaking of like great villains on the show and recast,
1091
01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:39.360
as we talked about earlier, I felt like a great
1092
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:44.920
recast was Sebastian Roche as Jerry Jacks. What was it like,
1093
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.679
because I mean, the character when the original actor was
1094
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:50.159
playing Jerry a very different kind of vibe for that character.
1095
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:54.079
When Sebastian comes in, the character has a very different
1096
01:05:54.159 --> 01:05:56.559
kind of mindset. Yeah, what was it like recasting that role.
1097
01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:59.320
It's funny you mentioned that because I'm actually thinking about
1098
01:05:59.320 --> 01:06:03.920
Sebastian's first day the other day. Oh okay, so we
1099
01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:09.199
knew it wasn't even so much recast Jerry based on
1100
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:13.159
what previously existed. We're bringing the character Jerry back in fact,
1101
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:15.599
wait a minute, he was not revealed to be Jerry
1102
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:20.079
Jacks when he first started, so it wasn't even a
1103
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:24.760
Jerry Jacks recast to my recollection because he had a
1104
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:28.840
different name, mister so and so it wasn't a Jerry.
1105
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:33.760
It was like, Okay, we want a villain who's going
1106
01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:35.679
to take over the Metro court and terrorized. But we
1107
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:39.840
don't want a cartoon villain. We want someone subtle and commanding.
1108
01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:46.079
Think Alan Rickman and die Hard. It wasn't Jerry the time.
1109
01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:49.079
I think Jerry. He became Jerry after the fact, if
1110
01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:56.079
I'm not mistaken. So we viewed okay this back in
1111
01:06:56.119 --> 01:07:00.599
the day, we either viewed his DVD. We had DVDs
1112
01:07:00.679 --> 01:07:06.920
for auditions or vah and so the producers we sat
1113
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:15.039
in the room watching auditions and Sebastian Everyone's like, oh, yeah,
1114
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:19.679
hied that guy. I never met him. We didn't know him.
1115
01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:22.199
He just had a very nice body of work and
1116
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:26.920
he was really good, So never met him. His so
1117
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:30.480
he's coming in to take over this giant storyline and
1118
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:32.679
kind of a mystery. No one's really ever met him,
1119
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:38.119
but we saw his work and I'm coming back from
1120
01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:42.719
the commissary and I still haven't met him. And I
1121
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:46.360
see him outside and he's in all black for the
1122
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:51.840
episode and he's running his lines outside of the breezeway.
1123
01:07:52.360 --> 01:07:56.559
And the minute I saw him, I'm like, he's the guy.
1124
01:07:56.800 --> 01:07:59.000
He is the guy, just his president we are even
1125
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:05.559
saying a word. His presence is elegance, his sharn, his charisma,
1126
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:09.039
and I was like, Okay, yeah, this guy's gonna be great.
1127
01:08:09.880 --> 01:08:12.239
And he started doing the scenes and we knew we
1128
01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:17.680
had an amazing villain. I don't believe it could be wrong,
1129
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:19.359
but I don't think he was never supposed to be
1130
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:22.119
Jerry Jacks or stick around for years. It was one
1131
01:08:22.159 --> 01:08:25.319
of those things where, Okay, how do we find a
1132
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:27.600
way to get this guy instead? I hope I'm writing
1133
01:08:27.600 --> 01:08:29.640
that story, but I can tell you I don't remember
1134
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:34.640
it being a Jerry Jacks. Recuest character had a different
1135
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:39.479
name and everything. But again, when you saw him, even
1136
01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:42.039
without saying a word, he embodied the essence of this.
1137
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:47.279
I know the gems and I will talk about talking
1138
01:08:47.279 --> 01:08:51.000
about Jane like the glory days of like the seventies, eighties, nineties,
1139
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:54.119
when like location shooting and stuff is more prevalent, but
1140
01:08:54.159 --> 01:08:57.600
the industry has changed. Budgets are change, schedules, all the stuff.
1141
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:01.239
For a productions, we see how that kind of affects
1142
01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:03.800
it on the screen, But for casting, does that kind
1143
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.800
of Has it changed a lot from the seventies, eighties,
1144
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:09.880
nineties to present day in terms of how you were
1145
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:10.760
impacted by any of that.
1146
01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:15.359
No, because my mandate has always been the same. Find
1147
01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:18.279
the magic. Find that actor that's going to be magical,
1148
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:22.520
whether it's the seventies, eighties, nineties, two ten foot, find
1149
01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:28.159
something that. Find that person that is going to tell
1150
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:31.720
stories through their work and be so interesting that the
1151
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:34.880
audience will go on that journey with them. That's always
1152
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:38.359
been my mandate. My job doesn't change on the decade yet.
1153
01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:43.039
Production value, our production values are extraordinary, by the way,
1154
01:09:43.159 --> 01:09:46.199
but the locations aren't as broad as they were. Things
1155
01:09:46.239 --> 01:09:48.880
like that, But you find a way to make more
1156
01:09:49.079 --> 01:09:52.680
with less. I'm amazed what we have on the screen.
1157
01:09:54.119 --> 01:09:57.880
For way, Frank he's under by right.
1158
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:03.239
Has this way of making the show look like just
1159
01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:06.000
the production eyes are extraordinary, the sets, the lighting, the
1160
01:10:06.439 --> 01:10:13.079
way it's shot. It's I'm blown away, seriously.
1161
01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:16.479
Mark, I know that we talked about what you do
1162
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:19.119
when an actor first starts the show, Okay, you kind
1163
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:20.479
of be there is they're kind of like their lead.
1164
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:24.720
What happens when an actor's time comes to an end
1165
01:10:24.720 --> 01:10:27.079
of the show, whether through their own decision that shows
1166
01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:29.560
decisions right, you know, to write the character off. Well,
1167
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:31.319
what's it like when an actor is leaving the show?
1168
01:10:31.319 --> 01:10:33.479
What's your kind of at least you brought them in.
1169
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:36.680
You've had this connection, do you how do you work
1170
01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:37.159
for work with that?
1171
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:45.239
You you say goodbye and you say to them something
1172
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:49.760
around the corners waiting for you. Something's out there and
1173
01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:53.760
you're going to have that. You share your belief in
1174
01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:57.800
them with them. Is their decision to leave? They're doing
1175
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.279
it for the because they're compelled, But if they're now
1176
01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:05.039
for story reasons, sometimes there could be confusion, like I'm
1177
01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:07.840
surprised I'm being written out or whatever, and you just
1178
01:11:07.880 --> 01:11:10.319
say you were here because of your talent, and that
1179
01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:14.159
talent stays with you. But when Nick Chavez left the show,
1180
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.399
he was very clear, I'm leaving, I've got this I
1181
01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:23.199
want to do. So didn't need to wish him success
1182
01:11:23.239 --> 01:11:25.760
because he was so confident and he was already starting
1183
01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:28.399
to work outside of the show. It was just his
1184
01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:32.800
next journey. By the way, Nick Chavez auditioned with four
1185
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:36.319
hundred actors that sent their auditions in and he was
1186
01:11:36.359 --> 01:11:41.840
selling cars in Florida. Yes, nineteen years old. We liked him.
1187
01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:44.720
He flew into tests and the rest is history. But
1188
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:46.760
if there wasn't a self tape, I wouldn't have seen
1189
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:51.239
it in Florida. And that's another great example. But you
1190
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:53.359
just wish the actors the best. And there were some
1191
01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:57.399
actors you know that something greats just awaiting the corner
1192
01:11:57.439 --> 01:11:59.960
if they just write that out. But you know, you become,
1193
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:04.560
you know, attached to these actors. It's business, but as
1194
01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:06.800
a human being, it's your people.
1195
01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:10.720
Well, thank you Mark for coming on the show. Thank
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01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:11.359
you so much.
1197
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:14.680
Welcome back and a blast guys, I mean seriously, and
1198
01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:16.199
thank you for what you did for me in the beginning.
1199
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:17.880
I mean, just three is a full circle moment.
1200
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:19.960
I'm just glad to see you doing your same and
1201
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:20.600
still loving it.
1202
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:23.760
Man, we do, we do, we do. We're here every Sunday.
1203
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:24.039
We do.
1204
01:12:24.239 --> 01:12:25.920
Despite doing it with me, he still likes it.
1205
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:26.199
Mark.
1206
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:27.119
I don't know why.
1207
01:12:27.119 --> 01:12:28.760
You guys have a very good chemistry. I think you
1208
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:29.920
should take the show on the road.
1209
01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:34.680
We should freak. I know, I told you, he said.
1210
01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:37.800
Uh, everybody, thank partession for coming today on this on
1211
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:38.439
this Sunday.
1212
01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:39.920
My pleasure to be here, truly.
1213
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:42.159
Thank you so much. Mark and I have a great
1214
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:44.319
show weekend and we'll talk to you. Thank you so much.
1215
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:46.279
Thank you, guys, Thank you Mark.
1216
01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:51.439
You yay. All right? Oh my god, Frank you're the star.
1217
01:12:52.119 --> 01:12:53.840
No, no, no, no, get out of here.
1218
01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:58.520
Said camera through a chat. We're like freaking his tux
1219
01:12:58.640 --> 01:12:59.520
ready for the nurses.
1220
01:12:59.560 --> 01:12:59.840
Mom.
1221
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:07.000
I tell you have worked that out right there and
1222
01:13:07.039 --> 01:13:11.439
make him care. Fan said it first.
1223
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:14.199
I don't think I there's no way to be able
1224
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:17.119
to act like I could really care about the importance
1225
01:13:17.319 --> 01:13:25.279
of remember yes, and that's right, I, guys, I can't.
1226
01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:26.119
I can't do this.
1227
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:29.399
It's just just walk off. I can't do this. Just
1228
01:13:29.439 --> 01:13:32.199
walk off. That's my co host.
1229
01:13:33.359 --> 01:13:35.680
Why would I care about this person's life?
1230
01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:41.560
No, I you know, you know what you guys know
1231
01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:45.039
if again, it was my relationship with Mark that got
1232
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:46.960
him on the show. I a lot of times I
1233
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:48.840
have to go on my own and bring folks here
1234
01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:51.000
for you guys. I'll keep trying to bring on guests
1235
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:52.920
for you guys on Sundays, because I know you'd like
1236
01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:57.880
to hear the behind the scenes, behind the scenes, so
1237
01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:58.439
that goes.
1238
01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:00.239
On our show. We love it. We like here too.
1239
01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:01.760
I mean, we got some gems that I never even
1240
01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:04.600
knew about. Oh you know Dan's whole thing. I'm like,
1241
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:06.880
that was that's that's a great knock out the park
1242
01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:11.159
first time. Yes, i mean who knows, so, yes, but
1243
01:14:11.279 --> 01:14:14.359
yes we do that. So now now here's the boring parts.
1244
01:14:14.399 --> 01:14:18.079
I'm still just kidding. I guess you're talk about the show.
1245
01:14:22.039 --> 01:14:24.399
And so that was this week. I mean, let me
1246
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:31.760
bite into this cookie first before it melt. So my
1247
01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:40.399
general thing about this week, Frank, people watching the show,
1248
01:14:43.119 --> 01:14:45.079
it's just going forward. It seems like all of a sudden,
1249
01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:48.359
they don't give two ships. They're just like, we're gonna
1250
01:14:48.399 --> 01:14:50.079
do this. We're gonna go this direction, We're going in
1251
01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:56.720
that direction. They're they are going forward so fast. I
1252
01:14:56.720 --> 01:14:59.039
feel like that just like that, I mean, we're gonna talk.
1253
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.359
There's several things that happened this week was like oh okay,
1254
01:15:01.399 --> 01:15:06.079
oh okay, okay. And I read the rumor and some
1255
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:09.479
were digests because just before we're digests, they would have
1256
01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:11.079
put Dante, Elizabeth.
1257
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:12.319
Together, so I do.
1258
01:15:12.760 --> 01:15:14.760
So They're just they're just kind of there there. This
1259
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:16.319
show is getting a little coog of crazy. I don't
1260
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:17.760
know what's going on here, Frank.
1261
01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:21.880
That I did not read that rumor, but that scene
1262
01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:25.760
of them chatting at the hospital, I was just like, man,
1263
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.640
this feels like a capitest scene for these two. And
1264
01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:31.119
the first time I had ever in all the interactions
1265
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:33.399
they've ever read in the past that I was like, huh,
1266
01:15:34.039 --> 01:15:34.920
what's going on here?
1267
01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:37.640
Mmmm?
1268
01:15:38.279 --> 01:15:40.239
They they said it was It came out a couple
1269
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:41.319
days after the episode.
1270
01:15:42.479 --> 01:15:47.079
Interesting, Uh, you know, I'm I mean, Elizabeth hasn't had
1271
01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:52.119
anything going on, and so I'm down. I'm down for.
1272
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:57.920
I'm not really why not? It just kills me.
1273
01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:05.680
Her rick Hurst have such chemistry for sure, teasing it,
1274
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:10.159
but Rick is there. I don't understand. I don't know
1275
01:16:10.199 --> 01:16:12.560
what they're read. I don't know what the reason is
1276
01:16:13.439 --> 01:16:17.000
to just not put them together. It's not just the show.
1277
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:19.199
Several shows are doing this right now.
1278
01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:20.039
Why not?
1279
01:16:20.239 --> 01:16:22.920
I told Nick and share him. I like, it's like,
1280
01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:25.560
why don't just put them the fans put them together?
1281
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:28.680
The chemistry is off the charts. They tease this by
1282
01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:32.960
they almost don't they almost don't just do it, like
1283
01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.560
I don't. I don't understand why they just they just
1284
01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:39.359
won't sign off on it. The two mean you could
1285
01:16:39.359 --> 01:16:43.119
write a real beautiful love story, a mature love story,
1286
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:47.840
because they're changing Rick so to speak. That could she
1287
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:51.279
knows who he is, so I know DG. We actually
1288
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:52.960
we actually agree. I know, it's kind of crazy, we
1289
01:16:53.000 --> 01:16:54.640
really ever meet GD in a chat. We never really
1290
01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:57.479
agree often, but I agree with you completely. I feel
1291
01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:02.239
like these two have such great chemistry. I could I
1292
01:17:02.279 --> 01:17:04.439
could write it. I totally could write a story for that.
1293
01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:08.399
I totally I get that. But would it feel too
1294
01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:14.039
similar to listen Franco where I mean, certainly Franco's actions
1295
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:19.920
are far out syed hurt Rick Rick's actions, But it
1296
01:17:20.039 --> 01:17:22.600
is that same kind of thing where you know, the
1297
01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:25.800
town views this person in one way and Liz view
1298
01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:27.840
you know, can see something within that person that no
1299
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:30.600
one else quite can. And so despite all the people
1300
01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:32.279
saying why are you with them? Why are you doing this?
1301
01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:35.039
She sticks by her man, and you know they develop
1302
01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:39.079
a great relationship. Is it too similar to that that
1303
01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:43.159
you that maybe that's why the show is reluctant to
1304
01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:44.600
commit to that. I don't know.
1305
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:46.960
Well, I think I don't know either. I mean, that's
1306
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:48.359
a good cry. I don't know. That's what I'm saying.
1307
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:50.479
I don't know what they Why not writing because they
1308
01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:54.239
keep I'm saying, they keep teasing us, so they well
1309
01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:59.039
they don't don't really cussed. Don't effing go there that
1310
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:02.119
like that, don't do that. Then, don't remind us that
1311
01:18:02.199 --> 01:18:05.439
they have chemistry, don't have don't have Molly going so
1312
01:18:05.479 --> 01:18:06.560
he saw you're with my dad.
1313
01:18:06.680 --> 01:18:08.600
You're so good for my They don't tell us that that.
1314
01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:11.840
Don't do that, you know what I mean? It's like,
1315
01:18:12.119 --> 01:18:13.720
why are you gonna have? So Liz has to sleep
1316
01:18:13.760 --> 01:18:16.920
with everybody in town? So because Dante's only one left?
1317
01:18:17.119 --> 01:18:19.479
Dante like, why not? I feel like that's such a
1318
01:18:19.520 --> 01:18:23.399
desperate move because you don't want to do a Dante
1319
01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:26.399
Lulu Nathan triangle.
1320
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:30.119
Why not? There's something thising there, There's there's something there
1321
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:32.479
we have we haven't even explored.
1322
01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:35.720
Dante and Lulu because he was morning Sam. Well, now
1323
01:18:36.760 --> 01:18:40.119
it's been a year, why not get into that. He
1324
01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:43.439
sees his best friend dating Lulu and he feels them
1325
01:18:43.439 --> 01:18:45.720
about that, like, why can't I can? I can write
1326
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:48.159
this stuff? I swear to god, I'm like, you know, forrad,
1327
01:18:48.199 --> 01:18:49.319
I was like, you're right, but you know what I mean, Like,
1328
01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:51.640
but go back to the thing with the Rick and Liz.
1329
01:18:52.560 --> 01:18:54.520
If that's the case, then don't remind them that's not
1330
01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:59.439
go that direction at all. Yeah, we're just friends. I
1331
01:18:59.479 --> 01:19:00.079
can't get with you.
1332
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:02.439
It's just too much baggage. But I was just like,
1333
01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:04.239
I'll well with you. Sure, why not?
1334
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:06.840
You know, I's giggling at the throwing access and sh
1335
01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:10.199
I'm like, that's come on. It's like, come on, people,
1336
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:13.119
I'm just thinking there's But I think the fans.
1337
01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:16.319
And we we we like it. We want to see it.
1338
01:19:16.359 --> 01:19:17.680
I think most of us would like to see it.
1339
01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:18.960
She has chemistry.
1340
01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:24.880
I mean, I I really enjoyed trendously Rick Herbs. He's
1341
01:19:24.920 --> 01:19:30.039
great on the show. But my my, oh my worry
1342
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:33.239
with Rick is always that I've always wondered, I Collen
1343
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:35.119
is actually going to be on the show. I wish,
1344
01:19:36.039 --> 01:19:38.399
you know, like Dante, I feel more secure knowing this
1345
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:40.119
guy is going to be around for a while. So
1346
01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:41.960
if they ever did a Liz and Dante kind of thing,
1347
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:44.239
it's like, I feel like, you know, Dante's not really
1348
01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:45.840
going anywhere, so I could I can feel like I
1349
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:48.960
can kind of invest for Rick. I was feeling like, man,
1350
01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:51.239
he could just leave at any time, couldn't he. And so
1351
01:19:51.279 --> 01:19:54.520
it's tough for me to really buy into a listen
1352
01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:56.600
Rick thing that could just end up being just like
1353
01:19:57.479 --> 01:19:59.880
speedily done away with because he leaves a.
1354
01:19:59.880 --> 01:20:06.600
Sh I see that also, but again, yeah, and then
1355
01:20:06.680 --> 01:20:09.079
know why teesus. I'm just I'm going almost by what
1356
01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:12.159
Mark Tester was saying, how you can't chemistry just happens?
1357
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:13.640
Right, Yeah, I do.
1358
01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:17.159
They haven't. They've had it. It's the same actors. I mean,
1359
01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:20.279
obviously the lucky thing didn't stay, didn't stick, they got
1360
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:23.399
rid of other people. So Mike, if you don't just say, oh,
1361
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:25.520
can't put them together? I say those.
1362
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:30.640
Two, Yeah, no I can't. I mean I can't argue
1363
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:33.439
that that's a bad idea at all. I mean, right,
1364
01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:39.039
you know, yeah, I mean because I did enjoy ricking
1365
01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:42.960
Alexis's scene and just seeing Rick kind of just break
1366
01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:46.039
down a bit about that. That was great and I
1367
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:48.960
was like, yes, this is a great kind of character
1368
01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:51.960
growth epiphany moment for this character. I'm love that the
1369
01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:53.000
show's leaning into that.
1370
01:20:53.319 --> 01:20:55.840
Well also, right, and it has a good example. We
1371
01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:58.279
don't want Alexis and hand him together. We don't want
1372
01:20:58.319 --> 01:21:01.439
them to get We like them sparring and kind of
1373
01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:05.079
coming together every once in a while for a common cause.
1374
01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:09.079
That's fine. I'm great with that. So that's but they've
1375
01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:10.800
kind of set that up that way. It's like, that's
1376
01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:14.800
that's it. So I'm fine with that. So to me,
1377
01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:15.760
they did a great job with that.
1378
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:16.479
I love that. I did.
1379
01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:18.960
I love that scene because you saw a Lexus kind
1380
01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:21.479
of go oh, he's being serious, but she had no
1381
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:23.560
reason for him to believe he was serious. So that's
1382
01:21:23.600 --> 01:21:27.680
just seeing and because of Molly, like he does want
1383
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:30.319
to like and study now wanting to I mean I
1384
01:21:30.439 --> 01:21:32.960
we again, like I said, he'll be on the show regularly.
1385
01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:35.760
We have no idea, but I'm liking the growth because
1386
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:39.079
why not we should just we should see growth. And
1387
01:21:39.279 --> 01:21:42.439
oh one side, kids, they have a super chat and
1388
01:21:42.479 --> 01:21:45.720
it mentions our Frank here, Kayla, thank you for super
1389
01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:48.680
ch out of ten dollars, Frank could do gh he
1390
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:52.960
give me someone's receptionists. Temporary character could read and answer emails.
1391
01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:53.520
They're laughing.
1392
01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:57.640
Yeah, that's right. I will I will never, I will
1393
01:21:57.640 --> 01:22:00.680
never answer the emails. Don't worry about that.
1394
01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:04.479
I'll be round.
1395
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:08.439
That's right, I know, anything else that's that's probably that's actually,
1396
01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:11.760
frank you can't. That's really funny because well they messed
1397
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:14.760
up Linda. Linda aid they got rid of ricking Avi.
1398
01:22:14.920 --> 01:22:18.159
We liked them together. They stopped that one too. I mean,
1399
01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:20.520
there's Rick has Killcy other people too. I get it,
1400
01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:24.479
but I'm saying I'm on the Elizabeth side. Why pray
1401
01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:27.159
were Dante's because he's the only male around her age?
1402
01:22:27.800 --> 01:22:29.319
Is that the I mean, they put her.
1403
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:32.119
In Fin didn't work, she wasn't frankly kind of worked,
1404
01:22:32.720 --> 01:22:34.760
you know, Lucky didn't stay, and I'm just like, just
1405
01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:38.880
I mean, Drew's out of commission obviously, so I can't
1406
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:39.760
be Drew, you know.
1407
01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:41.079
I was like, who else is around her? And her?
1408
01:22:41.159 --> 01:22:44.680
They don't never put Jason sorry Liaison fans, They're never
1409
01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:47.720
gonna put Jason in Lisbon together. It's not I'm not
1410
01:22:47.760 --> 01:22:51.960
going to. Yeah, So it's just kind of like, you know,
1411
01:22:52.319 --> 01:22:55.239
I just I just really I just really feel like
1412
01:22:55.720 --> 01:23:00.000
this shop it's not committed to Elizabeth.
1413
01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:07.600
I mean, heck, since that Finn storyline on, I have
1414
01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:10.039
definitely felt like that. I mean, and really, I think
1415
01:23:10.039 --> 01:23:11.479
if we've all read the trades and stuff, we know
1416
01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:14.239
that it's always been tough times around certain moments of
1417
01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:18.239
you know, her her status on the show. You know,
1418
01:23:18.399 --> 01:23:22.479
and fans love her and supporter so that's great, But
1419
01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:26.239
you know, Louise, I don't want her to become just
1420
01:23:26.680 --> 01:23:29.319
another nurse Amy, where she's just you know, relegated to
1421
01:23:29.479 --> 01:23:33.039
just you know, being a prop in other people's stories, right.
1422
01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.800
And and and and the agree. I actually agree with
1423
01:23:35.840 --> 01:23:40.720
you on this too. Maybe Becky Hurst looks amazing just
1424
01:23:40.760 --> 01:23:44.960
an age. The chick does not age. She looks amazing
1425
01:23:45.239 --> 01:23:48.880
and and actually as a as a great actress. We
1426
01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:51.800
know she can act. It's not even the problem. We
1427
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:55.359
know she can act. That's not the problem. And that's
1428
01:23:55.359 --> 01:23:59.800
what I'm saying. Someone said, lives in Isaiah.
1429
01:23:58.600 --> 01:23:58.880
Why not?
1430
01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:02.960
I guess the problem is they're not writing fully for her,
1431
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:05.760
so we're not only getting bits and pieces and stuff,
1432
01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:09.720
we're not getting anything solid. So I guess we'll watch
1433
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:14.159
her and Dante like driving paint on the wall, I guess,
1434
01:24:14.239 --> 01:24:16.399
and see where they I mean, I just I just
1435
01:24:16.479 --> 01:24:24.119
don't I don't see any chemistry between them.
1436
01:24:22.560 --> 01:24:25.319
So I don't. I don't. I don't don't. I don't.
1437
01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:29.880
I just don't see it. I do not, even because
1438
01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:32.239
I like Dante. I just don't see camera. I don't
1439
01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:32.840
see chemistry.
1440
01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:34.399
I just don't. I don't.
1441
01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:37.760
But we wan together and go, okay, I did you
1442
01:24:37.800 --> 01:24:40.960
know people were joking about Isaiah and and Lucas something
1443
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:42.880
for a while, you know, I was like, there's like
1444
01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:45.720
there's a little something there like that, there's certain chemistries
1445
01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:47.760
you can feel, and people are together in a room like,
1446
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:49.760
oh I see something there. They may I go there,
1447
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:53.359
but it's like I don't. I just don't. I don't.
1448
01:24:53.680 --> 01:24:57.960
They've barely interacted ever in life. We think about it.
1449
01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:00.199
They don't know, they almost want to say, people they
1450
01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:04.199
never really interact. Yeah, really, like you said, even you thought,
1451
01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:06.439
what's going on here? They never have seen they never
1452
01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:08.600
do any together. So I think it's just it's just
1453
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:12.199
I don't know, because I do. Because on the flip side,
1454
01:25:14.119 --> 01:25:22.079
how did you feel about I feel because Bradford Anderson
1455
01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:26.960
is so good as Spinelle. Maybe just that's I mean,
1456
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:30.039
there's he's just his work recently has been very has
1457
01:25:30.039 --> 01:25:37.680
been quietly wonderful. I will give him that, but that
1458
01:25:37.800 --> 01:25:41.399
Maxie and Nathan reunion. That's a little to be desired
1459
01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:44.800
for me. I don't know how you felt. It felt like, okay,
1460
01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:46.840
we can going into the cliff notes, and I was
1461
01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:47.920
staying with Spinelli bye.
1462
01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:49.239
I mean, I was like, that's it.
1463
01:25:50.960 --> 01:25:54.119
For as much as we appreciated her getting you know,
1464
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:57.720
her waking up on her coma and just full steam ahead,
1465
01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:02.159
which we loved, I I was bummed on this that
1466
01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:05.960
are just was like this, this part happened way too
1467
01:26:05.960 --> 01:26:13.000
fast for me. Uh you know, And I mean I guess, yeah, yeah,
1468
01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:14.840
it's weird because it's like, for what I'm always about
1469
01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:16.359
the pace of the show, it's like this, the show
1470
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:18.000
can't go fast enough all the time.
1471
01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:18.640
I know, I know.
1472
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:23.199
And here I am saying, man, that just seems really short.
1473
01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:25.800
Yeah you know, I mean, I guess the show seems
1474
01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:30.279
more mileage out of presidering the Lulu Nathan stuff. But
1475
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:32.399
I don't know, it's so like you could have spent
1476
01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:34.560
a few more days on this, right.
1477
01:26:34.640 --> 01:26:36.399
Okay, So I'm not alone, Okay, because I was like,
1478
01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:42.439
because no, because I felt like, that's it hilarious. She
1479
01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:47.159
was like, what, Like I felt the same way, like, oh,
1480
01:26:47.560 --> 01:26:50.920
it's great, remember those scenes. They talked about it briefly.
1481
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:53.800
They couldn't show flashbacks that it wasn't her play Lulu.
1482
01:26:54.359 --> 01:26:58.720
But those scenes when he died were amazing. I mean she,
1483
01:26:58.760 --> 01:27:02.760
I mean she wept for him. But even even the reunion,
1484
01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:08.600
she shed one tear of joy like no one. It
1485
01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:10.840
was just like she kept looking at her walking around.
1486
01:27:11.680 --> 01:27:14.760
But I felt like there's something missing for me in
1487
01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:17.840
these in these scenes and if he still choose Spinelli,
1488
01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:22.640
really expecting her to like weapen the fact that there
1489
01:27:22.680 --> 01:27:25.439
he is in front of her, and just like just
1490
01:27:25.680 --> 01:27:29.720
this and just I felt, I'm my eye, some folks
1491
01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:32.520
say in a chat and a line because he's not Nathan,
1492
01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:35.720
But I'm looking at her side of things. I'm looking
1493
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:40.600
at she is Maxie and her usual. Everybody else seemed normal.
1494
01:27:42.079 --> 01:27:45.079
And when she chose you know, Spinelli, it was a
1495
01:27:45.079 --> 01:27:48.520
beautiful scene. It was beautiful and everything. But I'm just like,
1496
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:52.359
unless Frank and I could be just writing stuff myself,
1497
01:27:53.399 --> 01:27:57.359
unless they're gonna do it later when she gets with
1498
01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:01.399
Lulu and Mexican's jealous or something, maybe him play that.
1499
01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:06.960
I don't know. I just I just i was I'm
1500
01:28:06.960 --> 01:28:11.800
sorry I was going on here, it's I mean.
1501
01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:14.960
I mean, it's getting harder to to not to think
1502
01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:18.199
it's that it is fully Nathan right, because the way
1503
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:21.199
he blows up at Lisel, he came in really had
1504
01:28:21.239 --> 01:28:28.119
on that. Uh yeah, and just from his well, I mean,
1505
01:28:28.399 --> 01:28:31.359
he has no memories until he wakes up seven years
1506
01:28:31.439 --> 01:28:34.000
later in the hospital, so you know, at least from
1507
01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:37.479
that perspective, his love. He you know, he died in
1508
01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:39.119
fort of Maxie and he wakes up in hospital seven
1509
01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:41.279
years later, that love for Maxie should be just as
1510
01:28:41.279 --> 01:28:44.359
strong as ever. And even though max has been in
1511
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:48.239
a coma for six months or so, you would think
1512
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:50.279
that that would not diminish for Nathan at all.
1513
01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:54.000
Yes, that's how he played.
1514
01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:56.760
When Nina came alive, she was like a twenty year
1515
01:28:56.800 --> 01:28:59.119
old because she had because she had that twenty years.
1516
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:01.239
But when the other when you know, when others have
1517
01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:04.399
come back the dad, they usually play that usually played
1518
01:29:04.520 --> 01:29:08.000
the like it hasn't changed for me, And I'm like,
1519
01:29:08.039 --> 01:29:09.119
that's what's so weird to me.
1520
01:29:09.159 --> 01:29:12.640
It's like, Okay, well, I'll love you too, good luck.
1521
01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:13.680
I mean, like what.
1522
01:29:14.840 --> 01:29:16.720
Yeah, I mean, And like the Dante Lulu, I mean,
1523
01:29:16.720 --> 01:29:18.800
it was a different situation. They were not together, even
1524
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.880
though Lulu like wanted to tell Dante that he that
1525
01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:25.720
she still loved him before she came it out, But like,
1526
01:29:26.119 --> 01:29:28.439
I mean, you know, even five years, Dante took the
1527
01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:31.039
time to kind of, you know, just think about Lulu.
1528
01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:33.680
And then he did move on. I mean, he'd even
1529
01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:36.720
and that's he They weren't even together, so he still
1530
01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:39.880
wasn't like that. It's so free. I was so frustrated,
1531
01:29:39.960 --> 01:29:43.039
and so I and I have no idea like is
1532
01:29:43.359 --> 01:29:46.079
this you know, how much of this is really Nathan
1533
01:29:46.199 --> 01:29:50.119
and how much is whatever is going on inside his nogging?
1534
01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:53.000
Right, So I was saying here, So I'm just like.
1535
01:29:55.960 --> 01:30:00.279
Especially because at least my hope was that Maxie waking
1536
01:30:00.359 --> 01:30:03.640
up and seeing Nathan was gonna be like the typic,
1537
01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:07.520
like like her saying, hold on, guys, that's not that's
1538
01:30:07.560 --> 01:30:10.359
not Nathan. I know Nathan, and I don't know who
1539
01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:12.279
you guys have been talking to for this last six months,
1540
01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:14.279
but that's not him. And so we don't even have
1541
01:30:14.319 --> 01:30:17.600
that scene either to like kick off anything about finally
1542
01:30:17.640 --> 01:30:20.600
getting answers to what's what's the deal with Nathan? So
1543
01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:23.119
I am really curious now what the show is gonna
1544
01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:23.640
do about this.
1545
01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:31.119
I know, I'm not. Yeah, I'm very very curious. It's
1546
01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:33.600
just it's just it's just it was weird. So I mean,
1547
01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:36.520
like I said, sometimes we're good at like just cut
1548
01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:41.359
to the quicken as go. All times I'm like, that's
1549
01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:43.960
that's not so maybe they're doing something later. But this
1550
01:30:44.079 --> 01:30:48.520
week they basically settlements and now we were going, so.
1551
01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:49.560
We can go. We can do it now, right, we
1552
01:30:49.600 --> 01:30:50.960
can do now? Now, we can do now. He's like,
1553
01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:54.720
he's like a hungry dog. He's ready to get Frank.
1554
01:30:54.760 --> 01:30:56.960
You're ready, get in there, Frank. He's like, I'm ready.
1555
01:30:57.760 --> 01:30:58.439
H yeah.
1556
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:03.079
I mean, how do you break that to Maxie? And uh, well,
1557
01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:05.079
I mean the Dante. I mean I feel like, I mean, yeah,
1558
01:31:05.079 --> 01:31:07.039
it's your best friend, but hey, me to get with
1559
01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:14.199
your ex wife, right hey, and beginning with your formerly
1560
01:31:14.279 --> 01:31:15.239
dead husband.
1561
01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:17.399
Right, it's gonna be its way weird. So I don't
1562
01:31:17.399 --> 01:31:18.760
know that that's you.
1563
01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:20.760
Know, somebody else, Max he should you should be fine
1564
01:31:20.760 --> 01:31:22.079
with it, right right right.
1565
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:24.239
But I'll give Maxie critic one thing.
1566
01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:26.119
They are kind of they kind of given us a
1567
01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:29.159
little bit of She went back to work as she.
1568
01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:32.039
Would loved stuff with her and said, well.
1569
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:38.479
Yes, I know, yes, Oh Ciel Citel was so bothered by,
1570
01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:41.520
so bothered by what do you want to close the door?
1571
01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:43.000
I don't know.
1572
01:31:43.479 --> 01:31:47.600
Oh his face was so sour. But he's like Jens,
1573
01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:50.039
this conversation isn't over, and he's.
1574
01:31:49.880 --> 01:31:50.760
Like he.
1575
01:31:52.279 --> 01:31:56.840
Actually powdered closed. Oh my god, I loved it. Oh
1576
01:31:56.960 --> 01:31:58.920
I got I loved it. She was like, thank you
1577
01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:00.760
very much, but it's time for you to have your
1578
01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:03.119
extra strategy. Basically, and he was not here and that
1579
01:32:03.560 --> 01:32:04.880
he was not here now.
1580
01:32:07.439 --> 01:32:10.359
And this is with with Maxine not even knowing that
1581
01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:13.399
Sid was the reason she's on this coma Like, I
1582
01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:16.600
am hoping that information comes out because Maxie knows that.
1583
01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:20.359
Oh so I did.
1584
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:22.319
So I enjoyed. I was something I enjoyed. But she's
1585
01:32:22.359 --> 01:32:23.960
back at work, so that's where she should be and
1586
01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:28.880
all that. But another scene that I actually really enjoyed.
1587
01:32:30.119 --> 01:32:31.960
That's all it was for them because Maxie, she's at
1588
01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:38.640
home and the net works that that. Oh god, I
1589
01:32:38.640 --> 01:32:44.279
see that I liked. Oh the scene I really liked.
1590
01:32:44.399 --> 01:32:48.239
And what what I what I'm liking about the situation
1591
01:32:49.560 --> 01:32:53.560
is Brooklyn and Chase. I love how she kind of
1592
01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:56.800
went at him. Yes, I was just kind of wait
1593
01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:00.199
a minute, because you think this person, did you know
1594
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:03.560
you're doing all this through and I love that the
1595
01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:06.479
way they're fighting, it's not like she's sants to leave
1596
01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:08.359
him all this kind of stuff. And when he said
1597
01:33:08.359 --> 01:33:11.239
you give me aultimatum, there's ultimatum, it's just kind of like,
1598
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:14.399
but we're not gonna do this while you're doing that. Basically,
1599
01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:16.920
she was basically kind of saying like, wait a minute,
1600
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:20.399
this is all the assumption you're doing things you you're
1601
01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:23.439
going you're out of control basically and ruining your own life.
1602
01:33:23.640 --> 01:33:25.079
She says, kind of like trying to call it to him.
1603
01:33:25.079 --> 01:33:27.479
I like that she's trying. She's trying to support him.
1604
01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:29.960
She loves her cousin Michael Avis and all that, but
1605
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:33.760
she's trying to support him and he literally has lost it.
1606
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:36.039
But even his a little mini speech of just like
1607
01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:39.199
I'm about justice and you know about I'm like but
1608
01:33:39.319 --> 01:33:41.560
she's like, but you're you're doing this because you think
1609
01:33:42.880 --> 01:33:45.479
he did this. Yeah, there's no proo like you know,
1610
01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:48.359
like you know, I mean, you may have touched the key,
1611
01:33:48.359 --> 01:33:49.920
may not have put the key on it.
1612
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:52.640
When you touch the key, did you did something to
1613
01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:55.520
try to shut him up. I love it.
1614
01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:57.159
I think I think it's such. It was a great
1615
01:33:57.359 --> 01:34:00.880
just a great argument back and forth that Brooklyns is like, no,
1616
01:34:01.520 --> 01:34:04.680
this is not a Chris is not cool because it's rood,
1617
01:34:04.680 --> 01:34:09.239
because it is affecting their life for sure. He's just like, oh,
1618
01:34:09.279 --> 01:34:11.840
it's all we can count doctors. She's like, no, I'm
1619
01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:15.279
taking this sh She's like, he's not about the demotion.
1620
01:34:15.439 --> 01:34:18.000
It's not even about the demotion. It's like, it's this
1621
01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:21.239
other stuff you're doing on top of that. You may
1622
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:23.239
lose your job. You may I mean, things may happen
1623
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:25.520
to you. And he just and he really is. So
1624
01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:27.680
I'm curious how they're really wanting to play this because
1625
01:34:27.680 --> 01:34:31.239
he's they haven't played it that he's that he still
1626
01:34:31.279 --> 01:34:35.680
wants Willow. But they're playing it very I mean, it's
1627
01:34:35.720 --> 01:34:38.439
it's they're playing like he's just but he was never
1628
01:34:38.520 --> 01:34:40.560
again with him and Michael were friends, but all friend
1629
01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:42.279
of me is or something that I guess they had,
1630
01:34:42.359 --> 01:34:45.359
you know, Willow and common right, but like they really
1631
01:34:45.359 --> 01:34:48.920
have them against Michael, like they really have him against Michael.
1632
01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:53.960
Yeah. Oh that was good.
1633
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:55.920
It was all good. Loved it all. What it all mean?
1634
01:34:55.960 --> 01:34:58.560
Yeah, I mean Brooklyn saying like she's out of prison.
1635
01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:01.279
She's you know, she's she's she's not being charged anymore.
1636
01:35:01.319 --> 01:35:04.680
She's got her kids, like, she's she's cool. Why are
1637
01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:07.039
he's still so obsessed with making Michael pay for this?
1638
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:13.600
It's like, and now he keeps messing up because the apartment.
1639
01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:16.720
I kind of love this. They really can't charge my
1640
01:35:16.840 --> 01:35:18.520
lath you know if he did. I mean, it's just
1641
01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.079
it's all he's messing up their whole case. And I
1642
01:35:21.119 --> 01:35:25.960
know Dante is so bothered by him by and Dati
1643
01:35:26.039 --> 01:35:30.880
say he believes Michael. He believes Michael, Yeah he does.
1644
01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:35.319
And Ady a Turner she thinks Willow.
1645
01:35:35.039 --> 01:35:38.239
Did it, which I love. I love it. I had
1646
01:35:38.279 --> 01:35:40.840
the right person, yes, well she said it.
1647
01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:43.079
I was like, that's the right girl. She's like it
1648
01:35:43.199 --> 01:35:44.239
slipped in her fingers.
1649
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:48.800
And we know that Sidwell's behind it, of course, obviously
1650
01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:52.960
helping Nina, but that's all things like eighty eight. Turner's like, no, no, no, no,
1651
01:35:54.199 --> 01:35:56.199
I had the right person. And I love that they're
1652
01:35:56.199 --> 01:35:59.039
playing them a little smarter than they normally do that
1653
01:35:59.159 --> 01:36:02.279
much that she's like no, no, no, no, sums off,
1654
01:36:03.399 --> 01:36:05.199
you know, And but I just love that Dante is
1655
01:36:05.319 --> 01:36:08.640
so exasperated because it's like Chase, you like, you know,
1656
01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:10.880
he wants to beat Chased down like it's cane Chase,
1657
01:36:11.720 --> 01:36:15.279
stop it, you know. I just it's just like, I
1658
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:18.560
didn't do anything that wrong. I didn't like you didn't
1659
01:36:18.560 --> 01:36:20.319
you you wait the case worse.
1660
01:36:21.159 --> 01:36:22.560
You just want to just slap on the back of
1661
01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:25.720
the head, boom, get it together.
1662
01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:26.439
Wake up.
1663
01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:30.359
So I just love how Dante's just He's like, you're
1664
01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:37.000
making my job harder perfectly, geez. But when he said
1665
01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:39.600
he believed Michael's okay, good, there we go. So now
1666
01:36:39.880 --> 01:36:41.560
now we kind of because I mean, I think for
1667
01:36:41.600 --> 01:36:43.199
a while people just they're like he could do it,
1668
01:36:43.239 --> 01:36:44.800
and they want to shore. But I like that they
1669
01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:47.760
finally made Chase like a side now and I think
1670
01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:49.359
you believe. I think I think I think feels the
1671
01:36:49.399 --> 01:36:53.600
same way as and Turn, like we had somebody that
1672
01:36:53.640 --> 01:36:59.000
footage is gone no, and so they feel like they've
1673
01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:02.680
been duke. That's what they feel like, and so that's
1674
01:37:02.680 --> 01:37:04.600
that's the problem.
1675
01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:10.000
Uh. But I also really curious to hear how Willow
1676
01:37:10.039 --> 01:37:12.479
will feel like what she realizes that Chases in hot water,
1677
01:37:12.520 --> 01:37:14.520
because I mean, we're going to see that flashback again
1678
01:37:14.520 --> 01:37:17.680
if he'rre putting those keys on the ring, and as
1679
01:37:17.720 --> 01:37:19.960
well as like when Wiley talks about go to Hawaii
1680
01:37:20.520 --> 01:37:22.840
man Willow's also it's like, all right, what is she
1681
01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:27.359
going to do to ruin that trip? All right, something's coming.
1682
01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:30.239
I sorry, folks, I like this Willow. Now I can
1683
01:37:30.279 --> 01:37:32.880
look at her now because I I before I had
1684
01:37:32.880 --> 01:37:34.319
no use. You don't have no use for her all
1685
01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:37.840
these years. Now I do, I got crazy, bitch, I do.
1686
01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:42.840
I'm in she crazy. And what's funny is Nina doesn't
1687
01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:46.000
know it. Nina has no idea how crazy her daughter is.
1688
01:37:47.079 --> 01:37:49.640
Lee's was an idea though a little bit. That's a
1689
01:37:49.640 --> 01:37:53.600
little idea, but like she doesn't know. Liz doesn't know.
1690
01:37:54.239 --> 01:37:59.520
Were you surprised that Sidwell was so involved? I was like, say,
1691
01:37:59.520 --> 01:38:02.560
what you know all this you can You've been giving
1692
01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:03.359
will the drug?
1693
01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:05.840
I was like what.
1694
01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:15.560
And when he went to Drew, oh, oh god, oh,
1695
01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:17.920
I was like, it has been yes, kids, it's been
1696
01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:19.520
very soapy. I was saying this week said this week
1697
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:21.840
has been like crazy and did with all the places.
1698
01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:24.039
I was like, so sid So, I was like, wait
1699
01:38:24.039 --> 01:38:32.039
a minute, would you keep up? Everybody? Frank Sidwell helps
1700
01:38:32.119 --> 01:38:34.560
Nina get rid of the footage. That's the one thing.
1701
01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:35.439
Well, see, I.
1702
01:38:35.439 --> 01:38:38.199
Thought it was Brennan because Brennan should made the deal
1703
01:38:38.239 --> 01:38:42.000
with the WSB or yeah, to to get rid of
1704
01:38:42.039 --> 01:38:45.680
that because in exchange for the whole Valentine stuff like hey,
1705
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:47.920
don't talk to Charlotte for me to see if you
1706
01:38:47.920 --> 01:38:49.119
can find out where Valentine is?
1707
01:38:49.159 --> 01:38:50.920
Okay, can you probably righte with that? But then how
1708
01:38:50.960 --> 01:38:52.880
did how did Will go to Sidwell though?
1709
01:38:53.199 --> 01:38:56.159
And then Sidwell said like, oh, hey, I talked to
1710
01:38:56.199 --> 01:38:59.359
my contacts in the PCBD and looked and from the footage,
1711
01:38:59.439 --> 01:39:01.800
I thought you were were more involved in this. So
1712
01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:05.479
I think, like suit Well is making assumptions that it
1713
01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:09.760
turned out to be true, right, but he I'm guessing
1714
01:39:09.960 --> 01:39:14.960
Brennan still he took advantage of Brennan and racing the footage.
1715
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:18.520
Maybe yeah, command, but it's just I was just like, yeah, Sibilson,
1716
01:39:18.680 --> 01:39:20.520
I was like symbols involved. And when he showed me
1717
01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:22.359
started showing about her house, I'm like, oh you're doing
1718
01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:27.840
and threatening her. Oh well, oh she was like thank
1719
01:39:27.840 --> 01:39:28.920
you very much, I'm good.
1720
01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:30.640
And he was like, no, you't know, we ain't No, no,
1721
01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:35.359
you ain't good. Basically. I love when they were talking
1722
01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:36.560
over each other and stuff. I loved it.
1723
01:39:36.439 --> 01:39:38.680
It was like, I feel like a real conversation because
1724
01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:40.880
he kept talking, she kept talking. He kept talking, and
1725
01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:42.960
he was like and then he got he got serious,
1726
01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:46.359
and I was like, you will take that job, basically.
1727
01:39:46.399 --> 01:39:49.039
I'm paraprning you will take that job, and you will
1728
01:39:49.119 --> 01:39:53.279
like it, and you will do my bidding basically. And
1729
01:39:53.359 --> 01:39:55.359
so when he went in saying he slid it off
1730
01:39:55.359 --> 01:39:57.439
to look at Drew and admit all this, I was like,
1731
01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:00.880
oh my god, I am you guys in a chat.
1732
01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:04.439
I agree with you. I am nervous because now we've
1733
01:40:04.439 --> 01:40:09.600
got Sidwell. His hands are into many things. I always
1734
01:40:09.600 --> 01:40:13.359
get nervous when a villain has their hands and too
1735
01:40:13.479 --> 01:40:18.039
many things because what is that? Because what does that
1736
01:40:18.079 --> 01:40:22.000
mean for that villain? Makes me nervous about that, because
1737
01:40:22.520 --> 01:40:26.359
because of that, it spills over to Laura and Lexus.
1738
01:40:27.119 --> 01:40:31.600
They're conversation. You'll all get over it. I see, I
1739
01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:35.239
just need a minute. And I love it. So let's
1740
01:40:35.279 --> 01:40:36.960
just think, is she gonna be the new you know?
1741
01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:43.279
Congresswoman told her family, Diane's back, Sam's wheelchairs, She's back
1742
01:40:44.720 --> 01:40:48.439
all this stuff. And of course the press conference. Uh
1743
01:40:48.479 --> 01:40:50.079
and at first and then Laura and we got to
1744
01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:54.159
know we came and tell the story without Frank's favorite
1745
01:40:54.199 --> 01:40:56.359
side character, Ezra Boyle.
1746
01:40:58.279 --> 01:40:59.920
Again, shoot that scenery.
1747
01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:00.960
Frank loved it.
1748
01:41:02.640 --> 01:41:07.479
You shooting with Laura. But you know it's funny because
1749
01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:09.439
they have a crowd Cosgo actual really is a good actor.
1750
01:41:09.479 --> 01:41:13.399
I've looked at other things it's done, but I kind
1751
01:41:13.399 --> 01:41:16.560
of feel for him a little bit. It's exchanges with
1752
01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:19.279
Jeanie Fred they're really good actually where he's kind of like,
1753
01:41:19.359 --> 01:41:23.079
you know, we're the same boat. Just like he's like
1754
01:41:23.159 --> 01:41:24.960
just like, you know, relax and just take it. So
1755
01:41:25.119 --> 01:41:26.640
kind of guy, just like, you know, so we got
1756
01:41:26.640 --> 01:41:28.479
we got because you know you'll learn to like you're
1757
01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:31.239
new with this, you'll like And Laura's like, no, I
1758
01:41:31.279 --> 01:41:34.119
will never but I like, I kind of like they
1759
01:41:34.119 --> 01:41:36.920
have to work together and it's weird. It's weird way
1760
01:41:37.079 --> 01:41:39.680
it's like this guy. I've been enjoying their exchanges. Actually,
1761
01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:40.760
I don't know. I don't know why I am.
1762
01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:43.359
It's sort of like that for I feel like for Ezra,
1763
01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:46.680
it's like that misery loves company, so he's fine with like, hey,
1764
01:41:47.359 --> 01:41:52.960
Laura enjoyed the club was commiserate thumb, but I love
1765
01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:55.880
that there's also that for as much as they butt heads,
1766
01:41:56.479 --> 01:42:00.039
I feel like he does respect. Yes, Laura, and the
1767
01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:02.279
fact that like she's willing to still stand up to
1768
01:42:02.319 --> 01:42:04.960
sit well, it's like, geez yeah, I don't have that
1769
01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:07.760
spark at all, that that's long been beaten out of me. Yes,
1770
01:42:08.199 --> 01:42:10.720
but I felt like again, another example of the show
1771
01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:13.800
going a little too fast for me was we end
1772
01:42:13.840 --> 01:42:15.760
with her walking out of her office like you know,
1773
01:42:15.840 --> 01:42:18.520
I'm picking Alexis that's it. And then we cut to
1774
01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:21.279
the news conference and she's like, oh it's Willow. I'm like,
1775
01:42:22.359 --> 01:42:25.199
where was that little you know, I needed just a
1776
01:42:25.239 --> 01:42:27.680
little bit to understand why she made that flip. Was
1777
01:42:27.680 --> 01:42:30.279
it just enough that Willow was there? She was there
1778
01:42:30.279 --> 01:42:33.640
at the Mirror's office. So she's like, well, we'll sear.
1779
01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:34.760
I guess I'll just say her name.
1780
01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:36.000
I agree with you, I do.
1781
01:42:36.039 --> 01:42:40.720
I agree with you with me, Ambersat says, Ambasat says,
1782
01:42:40.960 --> 01:42:43.640
I love Ezra softening helping Laura.
1783
01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:46.319
Daniel's good in the role. No, yes, yeah, you're right, Dad.
1784
01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:48.640
Cofker was hot back in AMC and Jan gotting like
1785
01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:52.680
days but yeah, I just I just it's it's their
1786
01:42:52.720 --> 01:42:55.439
exchanges are pleasantly surprising me. I'm just calling wow, like
1787
01:42:55.960 --> 01:42:58.359
there's I mean, these are two veteran actors, you know
1788
01:42:58.840 --> 01:43:01.640
who I mean, just like, look is so exasperated by him.
1789
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:03.479
She just when he when he opened the door and
1790
01:43:03.479 --> 01:43:06.520
she goes, I don't have time for this. You felt
1791
01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:09.119
you felt, you know that person's listing there. She's like, oh,
1792
01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:12.479
time this right now? She she had that she just
1793
01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:15.640
went and he's like hi again, not reading it was
1794
01:43:15.680 --> 01:43:20.000
hot for some reason. It's just kind of a.
1795
01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:26.359
Fun roll and it's working for me. It's working for me.
1796
01:43:27.319 --> 01:43:29.479
Like even the stuff that I did with the Jacinda
1797
01:43:29.479 --> 01:43:33.479
a few weeks back, you know, uh like even though
1798
01:43:33.479 --> 01:43:35.520
he's you know, he can still be a bu food
1799
01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:39.159
like back in the background taking selfies of himself too.
1800
01:43:40.279 --> 01:43:42.800
But it felt like there's like he he definitely has
1801
01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:45.800
these feelings for Jaesinda. He's like, oh, I'd like to
1802
01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:50.159
just try to get something going. It's like even though
1803
01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:53.039
he's a cheesy dude, like you can still feel like,
1804
01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:54.279
oh man, sorry.
1805
01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:54.960
I do know.
1806
01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:58.800
I'm saying testament again, as as Martester says up to
1807
01:43:58.840 --> 01:44:01.520
them to fully flesh it out as a testament to
1808
01:44:01.520 --> 01:44:04.920
his work. I mean, I think it's it's fun and anyway,
1809
01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:06.960
I agree by Genie Francis Geni Francis.
1810
01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:09.039
I mean, obviously you know she's a legend.
1811
01:44:09.319 --> 01:44:13.079
But I'm liking their scenes because they're kind of in
1812
01:44:13.079 --> 01:44:14.720
this situation, the artist situation together.
1813
01:44:15.199 --> 01:44:17.159
They're kind of there, are kind of like stuck together.
1814
01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:21.399
But I get Frank the suddenly Willow is it and
1815
01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:24.319
I love to saying looking at Jason just like I
1816
01:44:24.359 --> 01:44:25.319
don't know, I don't know, like.
1817
01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:27.399
Yeah, and they went from like, oh, I think Laura
1818
01:44:27.399 --> 01:44:29.680
made a huge mistake to like, oh, well she said
1819
01:44:29.680 --> 01:44:33.039
Well's name like that just that that was too fast
1820
01:44:33.079 --> 01:44:33.279
for me.
1821
01:44:33.359 --> 01:44:35.680
Yeah, too fast, too fast.
1822
01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:37.920
But it's also weird too. It's like, for as much
1823
01:44:37.920 --> 01:44:40.119
as I felt like that was too fast, the whole
1824
01:44:40.199 --> 01:44:44.680
general idea of Sonny and Laura working together is also
1825
01:44:44.720 --> 01:44:48.399
feeling too slow for me too. Yes, I agree, or
1826
01:44:48.439 --> 01:44:51.760
I'm just like, what happened to this? These plans and
1827
01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:53.239
things that you're going to try to put in action,
1828
01:44:53.840 --> 01:44:54.960
and so far we've got nothing.
1829
01:44:55.039 --> 01:44:59.159
Well, it's just where the pacing is off because we
1830
01:44:59.239 --> 01:45:01.680
have Lucy and that stills part of the plan. To
1831
01:45:01.720 --> 01:45:04.079
you somewhere, I guess. So it's yeah, it's the pacings
1832
01:45:04.079 --> 01:45:06.520
off a little bit. Hopefully I'll pick that, they'll pick
1833
01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:06.880
that up.
1834
01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:10.920
I feel like at one point something and all those
1835
01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:13.399
various things that what was connected to is going to
1836
01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:15.560
go the wrong way. And maybe that's like the domino
1837
01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:18.560
effect that everything else starts getting affected by one thing
1838
01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:19.439
getting thrown off.
1839
01:45:20.399 --> 01:45:24.359
Well, the thing with Willow especially, it's once your kids,
1840
01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:25.800
it was much more time with them.
1841
01:45:26.039 --> 01:45:30.239
And that's a congresswoman. So it's like, and folks, let
1842
01:45:30.239 --> 01:45:33.000
me expend. Let me tell you something goes something. People
1843
01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:35.279
a lot like this is not real. It is real,
1844
01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:40.079
and there death has happened. One major example Sonny Bono,
1845
01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:43.359
when he passed Mary Bono, his wife widow took over
1846
01:45:43.399 --> 01:45:46.079
the spot. It actually it's one of those things. It's
1847
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:48.800
it's happened a few times in life, not all the time.
1848
01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:52.720
It's happened a few times in life. The spouse it
1849
01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:55.359
can be appointed to run and finish out the term.
1850
01:45:55.399 --> 01:45:58.159
It does happen, So it is real. It's not made up.
1851
01:45:58.159 --> 01:45:59.760
People like this is all mad, does not made up.
1852
01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:04.720
It actually is real. It is. It is yeah, made up,
1853
01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:06.640
but it was not made up. It actually is, for
1854
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:09.279
it doesn't happen all the time, but it just happens.
1855
01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:12.199
The fact that they they chose to go with Willow,
1856
01:46:12.840 --> 01:46:15.960
especially laugh I'm like, Willow has so much going on
1857
01:46:16.680 --> 01:46:20.199
and she couldn't even answer Lulu in the first Scoop
1858
01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:24.479
Your Buddy her first Scoop, a homegirl did all the talking.
1859
01:46:24.680 --> 01:46:29.640
Basically, what I had also hoped with that Laura and
1860
01:46:29.720 --> 01:46:32.119
Alexis scene was that Laura was going to fess up
1861
01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:35.560
about why the real reason why she couldn't pick her
1862
01:46:35.600 --> 01:46:37.119
is that it's like, I'm you know, she's going to
1863
01:46:37.199 --> 01:46:39.119
loop her into the Sidwell stuff. I'm like, all right,
1864
01:46:39.640 --> 01:46:41.359
if she's not going to be congress person, she's getting
1865
01:46:41.399 --> 01:46:43.920
looped into this whole thing, which would have been cool
1866
01:46:43.960 --> 01:46:46.479
to have Sonny alex Is being able to help Sunny
1867
01:46:46.479 --> 01:46:50.560
and Laura, But that didn't happen either, which maybe think like,
1868
01:46:50.600 --> 01:46:53.840
come on, do something to pick up the pace or
1869
01:46:53.880 --> 01:46:56.079
change the rhythm of the Sunny Laura getting back in
1870
01:46:56.159 --> 01:46:56.840
Sidwell stuff.
1871
01:46:56.960 --> 01:46:58.640
Well, but that be off on the other side.
1872
01:47:00.079 --> 01:47:08.600
Oh and also, well, Kai have a job do I cared.
1873
01:47:05.479 --> 01:47:07.359
We're moving on you talk want that.
1874
01:47:07.680 --> 01:47:09.520
But on the other side of said because I was saying,
1875
01:47:09.520 --> 01:47:14.399
Simil has his hands, his tentacles and everything. Then we
1876
01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:17.399
have over here Sidwell and we got now we got
1877
01:47:17.479 --> 01:47:19.239
Lucas working with Britt.
1878
01:47:20.319 --> 01:47:25.279
Who'd have thunk that, Yes, like Lucas is heavily invested
1879
01:47:25.399 --> 01:47:28.279
in Britt. Yeah, considering like you know the stuff that
1880
01:47:28.279 --> 01:47:29.560
they that he said about.
1881
01:47:29.319 --> 01:47:30.880
Her, like you don't even like her.
1882
01:47:30.920 --> 01:47:32.920
He's like like, well, you know, I mean like I's
1883
01:47:32.960 --> 01:47:35.640
like that's the whole thing. It's kind of like, okay,
1884
01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:36.800
I kind of like it, but I'm just saying it
1885
01:47:37.960 --> 01:47:39.439
was kind of like I was like, Marco, you don't
1886
01:47:39.439 --> 01:47:41.960
even like her. It's like, well, it doesn't matter, Like
1887
01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:45.279
it's like if there's there's danger. And I was like,
1888
01:47:45.479 --> 01:47:47.000
and so he's talking and the way he talks to
1889
01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:49.079
Brince is the way he talks to is hilarious too.
1890
01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:49.880
It's kind of funny.
1891
01:47:50.880 --> 01:47:53.359
But we kind of like, so, I guess they're frenemies
1892
01:47:53.399 --> 01:47:55.199
on so they're becoming friend of mees on some level
1893
01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:58.760
because of this threat. But he wants to help, and
1894
01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:03.039
Marco said he would help him. I mean, I'm scared.
1895
01:48:03.279 --> 01:48:04.600
I'm scared, Frank.
1896
01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:10.119
I don't know, you know, some stuff's not gonna go Frank.
1897
01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:14.319
His father called him a parapet. I was like, oh,
1898
01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:21.520
look over there, son, those peers. I'm like, oh no,
1899
01:48:22.439 --> 01:48:24.640
he asked him, does he know? He asked to point Blake,
1900
01:48:25.279 --> 01:48:25.840
what does he know?
1901
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:27.399
Yeah.
1902
01:48:27.600 --> 01:48:28.520
I was like, I'm.
1903
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:30.840
Scared for Marco. I'm scared.
1904
01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:35.239
Well, yeah, I mean, if something happens to him, maybe
1905
01:48:35.279 --> 01:48:37.800
that's something that kind of sets off a lot of
1906
01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:45.319
the stuff. I don't know. I mean, you know we've
1907
01:48:45.359 --> 01:48:52.520
I mean because I like the weakest one is, uh,
1908
01:48:53.039 --> 01:48:57.600
Jordan's Jordan's connection is said, well, I mean yeah, so
1909
01:48:58.039 --> 01:48:59.760
if something were happen to have Marco, I feel like,
1910
01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:02.920
you know, the then soon Well needs that second in command.
1911
01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:04.720
And maybe that's when Jordan gets involved, and maybe that
1912
01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:06.079
starts kicking things off.
1913
01:49:06.159 --> 01:49:08.560
I don't know, we don't either. It's really an all
1914
01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:10.880
this week. So, I mean, the whole thing is because
1915
01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:12.680
we had we had a deal with speaking of Jordan had,
1916
01:49:12.760 --> 01:49:14.000
what we had to deal with was.
1917
01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:23.640
Doctor Gannon mister Isaiah, so pretty you look at I'm
1918
01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:28.239
agreeing his character is not needed for nothing. He ain't
1919
01:49:28.279 --> 01:49:32.119
the father who cares anymore, boring as fuck, and then
1920
01:49:32.199 --> 01:49:36.159
you have him going to I'm gonna talk to your daughter. Now,
1921
01:49:36.199 --> 01:49:40.720
that's to me, that's overstepping so many roundies for me.
1922
01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:44.399
You're my love toy over here, you know, you to
1923
01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:46.399
talk to my daughter. Annoys if we come over here
1924
01:49:46.399 --> 01:49:49.800
and talk to her, to talk to her yet worked
1925
01:49:49.880 --> 01:49:52.119
quote unquote and made them close again.
1926
01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:56.640
But that whole I don't know.
1927
01:49:56.720 --> 01:49:58.119
I kind of like did better with portions of the
1928
01:49:58.119 --> 01:49:59.960
doghouse that was. That was just much more fun.
1929
01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:00.640
We're fun.
1930
01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:04.359
I know they were fun. I was like, oh, like,
1931
01:50:04.479 --> 01:50:06.680
so that happened this week too. That's pretty fast. Also,
1932
01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:12.119
if I would apologize to you, I'm like, oh my god, you.
1933
01:50:12.039 --> 01:50:14.159
Know, I'm such a hypocrite because it's like I'm all
1934
01:50:14.159 --> 01:50:16.640
about pace on the show again. If it's like Portia
1935
01:50:16.720 --> 01:50:19.239
getting the shaft from her own daughter, I'm like, let's
1936
01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:20.880
live in that space for a long time.
1937
01:50:24.439 --> 01:50:26.800
I kind of that went too. I kind of liked it.
1938
01:50:28.279 --> 01:50:28.960
By accident.
1939
01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:31.640
Oh yeah, what was that? Come on?
1940
01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:35.159
Well, who goes number had to be in her phone?
1941
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:36.760
But he goes, well, I was going to text her.
1942
01:50:37.960 --> 01:50:38.159
Yeah.
1943
01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:39.960
I don't know.
1944
01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:43.279
I just I just all ideas of that. But that's fine.
1945
01:50:43.279 --> 01:50:45.600
I guess they're back to being being mother and daughter again.
1946
01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:48.600
That's fine, whatever, the baby kicked and all that, But
1947
01:50:49.039 --> 01:50:51.720
doctor Gannon, I need more from him, I need something.
1948
01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:52.560
I need more from him.
1949
01:50:52.960 --> 01:50:56.239
Yeah, man, gosh, talk about a character that has such
1950
01:50:56.279 --> 01:50:57.720
potential coming into her shot.
1951
01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:04.279
Yeah, I mean just need I need more. I need more.
1952
01:51:06.319 --> 01:51:06.520
Uh.
1953
01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:09.000
And then just I mean basically other things that happens
1954
01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:10.760
that we had, you know, we had Jason and Sonny
1955
01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:13.640
talking about sigwell just how serious it is and all that,
1956
01:51:14.359 --> 01:51:15.960
and how deep it is for Britt.
1957
01:51:17.239 --> 01:51:18.920
And how hard it is for hearing you anything.
1958
01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:25.039
What else happens, and I mean I do like that.
1959
01:51:25.319 --> 01:51:25.640
Uh.
1960
01:51:26.079 --> 01:51:29.039
You know, both Brennam and Colum have those have those
1961
01:51:29.119 --> 01:51:31.680
chats with Jason, and I like that, just like he
1962
01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:35.600
tells Britt like they're onto us. Yeah, no matter what
1963
01:51:35.600 --> 01:51:36.359
we're saying.
1964
01:51:36.079 --> 01:51:41.479
That Obviously Brennan don't trust him either. Don't trust Colum either. Yeah,
1965
01:51:41.840 --> 01:51:44.720
like columns, the that's the one you get that he's
1966
01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:48.159
ahead of the snake. Basically, I think I think they're
1967
01:51:48.159 --> 01:51:51.640
probably realizing that he's ahead of the snake. And Brennan's like,
1968
01:51:51.840 --> 01:51:55.279
I know, use for Brennan, but I think Colins they don't.
1969
01:51:55.279 --> 01:51:56.359
Colms probably the worst one.
1970
01:51:57.720 --> 01:51:59.479
Yeah, you know it's like you have a little use
1971
01:51:59.560 --> 01:51:59.880
for Brennan.
1972
01:51:59.920 --> 01:52:00.479
He was cool.
1973
01:52:01.399 --> 01:52:08.119
Uh you know when uh Brick killed Colors thug that
1974
01:52:08.239 --> 01:52:10.119
was trying to kill Sonny back when he's getting his
1975
01:52:10.119 --> 01:52:14.760
heart surgery. So it's like, yeah, come on, Brendan was
1976
01:52:14.760 --> 01:52:16.439
cool with that. You can't you know, I know you're
1977
01:52:16.479 --> 01:52:18.880
not a huge fan. Does mean you have to frame
1978
01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:22.359
the guy for comfort Colum's death, Like he was just
1979
01:52:22.479 --> 01:52:24.760
ready just to throw brend and Redder under the.
1980
01:52:24.760 --> 01:52:31.520
Buses and poor poor Carly and uh and Valentine trying
1981
01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:33.560
to find a way in still because that's all screwing.
1982
01:52:33.640 --> 01:52:36.640
And he's like, I mean, yeah, still figured it out.
1983
01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:40.079
He told her he still got figured out, and.
1984
01:52:40.079 --> 01:52:41.880
Please do it soon because we need the storyline and
1985
01:52:41.920 --> 01:52:42.319
keep moving.
1986
01:52:42.760 --> 01:52:45.159
Yes, I mean she probabs some good food from the
1987
01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:46.000
metro cord.
1988
01:52:46.279 --> 01:52:48.319
Oh tasty, did look good.
1989
01:52:48.920 --> 01:52:51.680
I was like, okay, I like that food, but yeah,
1990
01:52:51.720 --> 01:52:55.359
I just it's I'm just I'm nervous in general because
1991
01:52:55.439 --> 01:53:00.279
the story now is Sidwell has his hands and everything basically, yeah,
1992
01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:02.880
we know what happens when that happens a lot of times,
1993
01:53:04.239 --> 01:53:06.000
so I would hate to I mean, this character is
1994
01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:09.600
a great character, you know, I'm just talking to Marc
1995
01:53:09.640 --> 01:53:12.479
Testa about you know, Jeff Kober. That was a great
1996
01:53:12.560 --> 01:53:16.399
character too, but they ridden cartoonish and certain it was
1997
01:53:16.439 --> 01:53:19.840
just like it. Guess I don't want side to be
1998
01:53:20.119 --> 01:53:22.479
super I mean, he's already kind of cartoonish. I don't
1999
01:53:22.520 --> 01:53:25.520
want him super cartoonish because he has such class and
2000
01:53:25.640 --> 01:53:28.279
humor and he could be a nice, long time just
2001
01:53:28.399 --> 01:53:33.720
thorn in people's side. Yes, I mean they're writing a
2002
01:53:33.720 --> 01:53:36.159
little too when they're into a corner.
2003
01:53:36.960 --> 01:53:39.279
Yeah, I hope not, because gosh, I would love to
2004
01:53:39.279 --> 01:53:43.119
see you know, sure, whenever stuff done. If you want
2005
01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:45.079
to send him off for a little bit, great, give
2006
01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:47.520
him a little rest. But he's somebody that I think
2007
01:53:47.520 --> 01:53:49.760
would be really great as a reoccurring person.
2008
01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:51.399
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
2009
01:53:51.880 --> 01:53:54.760
We had a couple of reunions. I almost forgot those
2010
01:53:54.960 --> 01:53:59.199
and they're fine. Cody and Molly fine.
2011
01:53:58.720 --> 01:54:01.479
But again, I don't need it anymore, like like this
2012
01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:04.159
should stick. I don't need I don't need any other
2013
01:54:04.279 --> 01:54:06.359
kind of manufactured drama doing the two of them.
2014
01:54:06.560 --> 01:54:08.800
I agree on that. And then Emma came back.
2015
01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:13.039
Yeah, it's it's tough for me to be invested in
2016
01:54:13.119 --> 01:54:15.800
any of that. And that's only because we don't really
2017
01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:19.039
see any of that storyline. The idea of Robin and
2018
01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:24.039
Emma heading to France to talk to Robin. Yeah, Robin
2019
01:54:24.079 --> 01:54:26.800
and trying to talk to Anna sounds intriguing, but we
2020
01:54:26.880 --> 01:54:27.399
never see it.
2021
01:54:27.760 --> 01:54:31.079
So yes, d G, somehow we're agreeing on everything today
2022
01:54:31.119 --> 01:54:32.680
and I don't. That's kind of scary.
2023
01:54:33.119 --> 01:54:37.840
And tell me, like James, say, you're there on the
2024
01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:40.880
West Coast, you find out your your your mom is
2025
01:54:40.920 --> 01:54:44.399
being institutionalized somewhere in France. You know your daughter's come
2026
01:54:44.479 --> 01:54:46.760
and told you. Are you just going to fly out
2027
01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:48.920
there and assume you're gonna be able to talk to
2028
01:54:48.960 --> 01:54:52.399
your mother in this French instant mental institution or would
2029
01:54:52.439 --> 01:54:53.960
you call ahead just to confirm that you're going to
2030
01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:55.680
be able to have access to her, so you don't
2031
01:54:55.720 --> 01:54:58.279
waste the whole, damn whole damn flight all the way
2032
01:54:58.319 --> 01:54:58.640
out there.
2033
01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:00.880
I think Robin is, though, I think a question. I
2034
01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:04.159
think who Robin is. I think Robin would fly out there.
2035
01:55:04.399 --> 01:55:07.119
She knows Paris, she knows France. I think she would
2036
01:55:07.159 --> 01:55:08.159
fly out there and.
2037
01:55:08.279 --> 01:55:10.000
Not even knowing for sure you could talk to your mom.
2038
01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:12.520
Oh yeah, demand demand to get in there. Just scorpio
2039
01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:15.960
they all do that her, she would fly. I think
2040
01:55:16.319 --> 01:55:18.760
Robin's a little more impulsive. I think then some people
2041
01:55:18.760 --> 01:55:25.199
will give her credit. I think she would. She would go, yes, okay,
2042
01:55:25.960 --> 01:55:27.840
least of them will call first. They're old, and I'll
2043
01:55:27.880 --> 01:55:29.520
call first. I need to do and what's going on.
2044
01:55:29.840 --> 01:55:31.560
But I think I think Robin would go out there
2045
01:55:33.520 --> 01:55:35.760
and demand to see her mother, just because they're a
2046
01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:39.239
whole long history of her mom being gone. I'm a
2047
01:55:39.279 --> 01:55:44.439
feeling she would probably and probably Patrick was like, don't
2048
01:55:44.439 --> 01:55:45.880
go out there for you probably talk her out of which,
2049
01:55:46.199 --> 01:55:48.000
try to talk her out of it, don't Maybe we
2050
01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:50.000
should call first, she was going on. He probably would
2051
01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:52.279
say all that stuff. She's like, Patrick, it's my mother,
2052
01:55:54.199 --> 01:55:55.720
And I think she I think should fly out there.
2053
01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:01.279
I mean in a world where in the world, yeah,
2054
01:56:01.880 --> 01:56:03.840
Clay mccullor was coming back to the show. I mean,
2055
01:56:03.880 --> 01:56:07.479
I would love to have her be instrumental to kind of,
2056
01:56:07.520 --> 01:56:08.840
you know, snapping Anna out of this.
2057
01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:12.840
I agree, I tell you that's not happening.
2058
01:56:13.039 --> 01:56:15.000
Welly actually should say that you never know surprises having
2059
01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:16.000
all the time shit, I don't know.
2060
01:56:17.239 --> 01:56:18.560
One day she could show up and be like, oh
2061
01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:19.640
my god, they've.
2062
01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:22.239
Kept they kept some good secrets recently they have, So,
2063
01:56:22.319 --> 01:56:26.600
I mean, you know, so Mana Wall says, Robin is
2064
01:56:26.640 --> 01:56:28.359
a highly experienced doctor, why wouldn't they.
2065
01:56:28.319 --> 01:56:32.640
Let her in on that alone? That's true.
2066
01:56:32.720 --> 01:56:34.000
Yeah, it seemed to add that they were like, we
2067
01:56:34.039 --> 01:56:35.279
couldn't even see her.
2068
01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:38.279
I had to watch her in the garden for a distance,
2069
01:56:41.119 --> 01:56:43.560
and says, yeah, Robin wouldn't have left out seeing her mother.
2070
01:56:45.560 --> 01:56:47.319
I feel like Robin's that kind of character. It's just
2071
01:56:47.319 --> 01:56:50.479
a little to you, just like she was pushed me,
2072
01:56:50.520 --> 01:56:52.479
pushing you. Remember, Robin would do that. I think Robin
2073
01:56:52.479 --> 01:56:54.239
would do that. Other characters wouldn't do it, So I
2074
01:56:54.239 --> 01:56:55.880
think she would do it. That's a good question though.
2075
01:56:55.920 --> 01:56:58.039
I think she would do it. I think she would
2076
01:56:58.079 --> 01:56:59.720
push James.
2077
01:56:59.760 --> 01:57:01.520
I think, as you know from what Mark said today, I.
2078
01:57:02.560 --> 01:57:06.439
Only ask good questions. I mean, you as the best questions.
2079
01:57:06.239 --> 01:57:07.359
Get any of my questions.
2080
01:57:07.399 --> 01:57:10.359
That's fine. He's answered Frank's questions. But that's great.
2081
01:57:12.359 --> 01:57:12.560
Here.
2082
01:57:12.680 --> 01:57:15.159
I mean, we're a team. So so when you win,
2083
01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:15.760
we win.
2084
01:57:16.079 --> 01:57:19.520
That's true. You know, when we yeah, it's like going
2085
01:57:19.560 --> 01:57:20.920
to be just me on the red carpet of the
2086
01:57:20.960 --> 01:57:22.439
Nurses ball. It's going to be us.
2087
01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:25.079
But but when you cut this episode out for your
2088
01:57:25.119 --> 01:57:28.840
real just you're saying, God, Frank's it's great questions.
2089
01:57:28.880 --> 01:57:32.439
Yeah, I got so.
2090
01:57:32.720 --> 01:57:35.880
But so those they're back together, they're back together. We
2091
01:57:35.960 --> 01:57:38.640
saw Doggie kids. He was with the Homeboy to go
2092
01:57:38.760 --> 01:57:41.920
at his house for a while, little cutie thing the Pomeranian.
2093
01:57:44.359 --> 01:57:51.479
Oh yes, and Eddie Turner and Sunny kissed. Man.
2094
01:57:51.720 --> 01:57:53.760
It's been so long since Sunny's done in the action,
2095
01:57:53.840 --> 01:57:57.680
I had forgotten, like he still love a good Sunny
2096
01:57:57.760 --> 01:58:02.399
kissing technique where he just grabs the side of the head. Uh.
2097
01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:05.079
And now she's freaking out.
2098
01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:11.600
Well and always getting relationship advice from Jordan is perfect.
2099
01:58:12.199 --> 01:58:12.600
Perfect.
2100
01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:19.279
I think it's being facetiously. Call that ssarcastic, and you
2101
01:58:19.319 --> 01:58:20.000
know I will not.
2102
01:58:20.640 --> 01:58:23.039
I cannot claim to say that I have my finger
2103
01:58:23.119 --> 01:58:27.520
anywhere near the pulse of the axe throwing entertainment industry.
2104
01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:31.399
But if you were to tell me that this act
2105
01:58:31.399 --> 01:58:35.239
strowing set would have such long legs, I would never
2106
01:58:35.319 --> 01:58:35.600
believe that.
2107
01:58:35.640 --> 01:58:38.640
A couple of years ago, right same here, It's funny
2108
01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:41.479
with sets because I was when I'm young to arrests.
2109
01:58:41.880 --> 01:58:43.920
They actually brought a setback for a long time ago.
2110
01:58:43.920 --> 01:58:45.680
I'm like, wow, I brought that. That's that's still a
2111
01:58:45.720 --> 01:58:47.560
production like that.
2112
01:58:47.960 --> 01:58:48.840
It's good. So you're right.
2113
01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:52.880
So it's like that whole axe storing thing. I get
2114
01:58:52.960 --> 01:58:57.279
points that would be a nail salon. Yeah, I mean
2115
01:58:57.479 --> 01:59:00.760
they've kept it for a long time. So I'm just like,
2116
01:59:00.960 --> 01:59:03.000
I mean, you know, there are different kinds of sets
2117
01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:06.520
you don't see anywhere else. So I mean they got
2118
01:59:07.079 --> 01:59:09.640
got room on stage whatever stage are off.
2119
01:59:11.760 --> 01:59:13.600
But I was like, yeah, that whole set.
2120
01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:21.399
I I but the thing is once again, Maurice and Nazmine,
2121
01:59:21.439 --> 01:59:26.920
who plays ad They have chemistry, they do, but it's
2122
01:59:26.960 --> 01:59:29.760
like a repeats him with a dark, dark haired lady.
2123
01:59:30.079 --> 01:59:33.239
That happens all the time, besides a few times he
2124
01:59:33.279 --> 01:59:35.239
went blonde, but for the most of the second of
2125
01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:40.039
the Brenda or read or just kind of another I mean, Claudia,
2126
01:59:40.319 --> 01:59:43.279
all these people. So I'm like, okay, we'll see where
2127
01:59:43.279 --> 01:59:44.000
this goes.
2128
01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:45.439
You know.
2129
01:59:45.640 --> 01:59:48.039
And Jordan's just like, you know, he's really charming. He's
2130
01:59:48.079 --> 01:59:49.800
really charming.
2131
01:59:52.560 --> 01:59:57.680
And it's tough because we both know that they kind
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of recognize that they can think they could play the
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other person. I think they made episodes that line of
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like how much is this genuine? Which I think does
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play into it, and then how much of it is like, oh,
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I can you still use this to try to get
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a leg up? And for whatever reason I need to
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get a link up.
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I don't know. I don't I don't know. So it's
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kind of just it's it's it's yeah, something else and
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I don't know. Was there anything else this week? Yeah?
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We did it two hours once again. No two hours,
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show you guys.
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I please show you guys watching our two hour shows
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and listening to them, we get good numbers.
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I mean, it's a long time, but again I want
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to think coming on, so.
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You know, it's quantity and quality with us.
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It is it is, and know that Dante lives.
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That's what I gonna say about that. Thank anybody for
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watching us. We won't be here next week. Way back
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to following me this huge as it's gonna be my
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fast I swear it. Hey, so just pray for me
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in Sacramento. So and then my Sacramento. Don't try to
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find me. I'll be hiding.
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Don't pray for me Sacramento. The truth is I never
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left you.
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I never loved you. That's what it should be. Oh anyway, anyway, no,
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Sacramento bashing. We'll see you guys next week. Everybody for
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for watching by m hmm