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Hello, and welcome to Generation Video.
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I'm and I'm repted, and.
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We're back after a couple of weeks of time off here,
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so it feels pretty good to be back in the booth.
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Absolutely. Yes. It was I guess tax season and we're
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in the financial sphere, so we're basically just getting our
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face beat in I think for the last couple of weeks.
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So yeah, I'm feeling refreshed and a human again.
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So yeah, yeah, a lot of shady business trips to
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Spitzerland back and forth, absolutely, with very questionable bags of luggage.
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But that's for us to figure out, and you guys
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just speculate on yep, what's in the bar?
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It's nothing but old shredded newspaper and don't give it away,
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never mind edit here. So uh anyway, Yeah, so we
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had a couple of weeks off here, and uh, I
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don't know about you, but I watched a bunch of
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stuff over the last few weeks.
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I have too. Yeah, this should be a good recap.
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Hunt, I think. So, yeah, you want to go first, Yeah,
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I'll go and start. So I'm finally getting a round
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to Uh, You've been talking about this for a long time,
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but finally getting around to watching an invincible good stuff,
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superud goes wild. Right, So, like everybody I knew of
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Invincible through like the memes and everything else, and I
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saw it.
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Advertising doesn't at that point. Look, but they need to
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mimbic a fraction of our.
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It's just it's it's you know, it's huge at this point.
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But I just, you know, like it was on Prime,
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I think, and I didn't really watch it, you know,
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so much from there, but just finished the first season
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and starting in the second season. Now, holy crap, that
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first season was fantas.
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Phenomenal, dude.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, if you're not hooked by episode one, man, you're crazy.
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Yeah. And it's so brutal, it's so insane, like it,
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I'm enjoying it a great deal.
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So yeah, the world building, the writing, the characters, just
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all of it is just so rich.
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Yeah. Yeah, so it's super fun. Yeah. Season two, I
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think I'm just like an episode or two and so
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it's still pretty early, but it already feels different in
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season two. You know, when like the second season of
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a show, when the world building starts to expand a
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little bit more.
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Yeah, power levels rise.
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Yeah, but you look back at that first one and
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you're like, it's a cool self contained story, right, you know,
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but it's like the Rise or whatever. It's kind of
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like how the first Harry Potter film feels totally different
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from the later ones. Right.
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Absolutely, Yes, that's a great way to put it.
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Small focused adventure over big overarching.
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Right, but plants lots of seeds for it to continue.
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Should there be interesting?
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Yeah, so I'm interested. I'm hooked there. So it's I'm
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really enjoying that.
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So I was the same way whenever the first season ended,
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like in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one or something
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like that. I think it's twenty one, but I literally
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like went and bought all the comics and like read
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them all. I was like, I need to know what
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happens with the story.
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Yeah, no, it's great. I can't wait to read the
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graphic novels too. I think that's gonna be a lot
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of fun.
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Yeah, you read the Walking Dead ones? So this is
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next on the list.
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Perfect, I'm here for it. So, yeah, watch that. I
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watched first two seasons of Mandalorian again. It's been a
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few years since I watched those, just in prep for
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the movie coming out next month.
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You're gonna after we're done, Aaron here, you're gonna give
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me the TLDR because I don't have time to watch
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five Star Wars seasons before this movie.
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Hey, you really only need two seasons, so that's you
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could watch. I mean it's eight episodes in season one,
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eight episodes in season two.
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For Mandalorian or Mandalorian okay.
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Yeah, and Ors like, you know, different timeline than what
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the movie is, you know, because and Or is like
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early on post Revenge of the Sith, pre New Hope.
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So I only need to watch two seasons of Mandalorian
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and then, oh, well that's all. I didn't watch the
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third season.
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Yeah, I think you could, because really I didn't watch
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the third season either back in the day, kind of
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been curious about it. But I feel like the first
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two seasons give you the complete story arc.
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I'm caught up, baby, let's go. Yeah.
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So it's really only like sixteen episodes, you know, and
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the whole the whole series feels like a video game,
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you know, and like you see him, like he gets
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the armor, he gets the weapon.
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Yeah, you get all the key, the best scar steel
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or whatever, yeah, the black blade or something. Yeah, you
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get all the key video game keywords.
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Yeah, So I mean that's going to be a detriment
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to some people, but I mean that's that's what this is.
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It's just like a fun adventure type story thing. So
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I think if you watch two seasons of it, you're
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probably in good shape for the movie right on.
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So I'm feeling good about it now.
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Yeah, what I watch movie wise, I watched a couple
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of movies. Well, we went and saw Lee Cronin's The
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Mummy last week. I was not a fan, felt more
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like an Exorcist film. To me, it just didn't I
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don't know, it didn't feel like I mean, I get
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that they're doing something different, it just it wasn't for me.
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I guess it had got a couple of good moments
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of of gore and stuff like that, but I just
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feel like the pacing was weird and there were a
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lot of like weird editing choices. So I don't know
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if it got changed and hacked up from what it
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was supposed to be, but it just it was odd.
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Yeah, I can't agree more of the movie. Actually, I
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think it's probably worse than you thinking. I thought it
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was actively pretty pretty bad. Yeah, but I don't really
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get very much enjoyment out of like the body horror
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grossness stuff.
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Yeah, if you like that, you version to that.
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Yeah, yeah, someone that's there for you. But otherwise if
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you're not into that stuff, I don't think there's very much,
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like any redeeming qualities about this movie, honestly.
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Yeah, yeah, it's kind of a letdown. But uh I
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watched Predator Badlands. Yeah, so that was that. It was
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another one that kind of felt like an ARPG campaign.
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Definitely an video game movie type of thing.
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Yeah, it felt like a like a one off RPG
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adventure or something. It was. It was the beginning was
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super solid. I found the middle part kind of like
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slow and boring after a little while.
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Man, I watched it at theater, so I was like
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the spectacle of it on a big screen. I think
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a little bit for.
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Me that might be different because like here watching it
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at home, I was kind of like, I'm picking up
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my phone and now I'm kind of disinterested, you know,
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And that's that's the death sentence if you pick up
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your phone and you know, the movie has lost to
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you as an audience member at that point, so you
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have to be engaging. But I thought the end was decent,
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like it kind of came back. It was a bit
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of a weird story, I guess for the Predator IP
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I would say, but as taken in context, as it's
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like maybe a one shot RPG adventure, like, Okay, that's
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kind of It's an interesting story.
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Sure, and I think they left it set up for
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a really really cool sequel like Mom's Home or something
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like that.
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Yeah, I would probably watch another one. Yeah, So either way,
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it's it's cool to get a Predator movie really, first of.
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All, Yeah, Predator stuff is always welcome.
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Yeah, but also one you know, try something different. I
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mean that's kinda you gotta gotta kind of make new
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stuff sometimes. See what sticks.
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Yeah, make us read we need to read yaucha subtitles
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the whole time.
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Yeah. So that's I think that's pretty much it from
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what I saw quite a bit. But I'm sure there's
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more I'm forgetting, but good roundup.
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Yeah, I have just I would say a couple of
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things worth noting on mine. I don't think we've had
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an episode since I saw Mario, Right.
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We have not, Okay, I haven't seen it yet. What
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did you think Mario was super good? Like?
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I absolutely loved it.
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And were running up and down the aisles the whole time.
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Yeah, with like was chicken jockey. Chicken Jockey through my
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popcorn and tore my shirt. Oh yeah, it was good.
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None of that happened to Tracy's like, I don't even
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know this man, I don't even see this man.
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Something like that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I'm not allowed to talk about it legally speaking
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too much exactly, but no, I loved it. It had all
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like the nostalgic beds that you could ask for, you know,
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all the right like sound cues and a little Easter
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eggs hitting around. So it was a really really enjoyable movie. Next,
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I would say, I think I saw I don't know
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if Mummy was next, but we just went over that,
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but that was I think next on my list. And
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then over Your Dead Body.
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Oh yeah, that's the one. I missed it that night,
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but you went and saw it at the Was it
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the Scream Unseen?
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It was actually like an a MC early premiere I thing,
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so that they advertised it. It was this. It was
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just like you see it a couple of weeks early
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and you get a like a blooper kind of real
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director thing, which I may or may not have recorded.
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Asked me about it later, right, right, right, just for
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my homies.
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You had that you set up like an old time
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film camera and you're just like the hand cranks. Sir,
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that camera is very loud. Please turn it down a
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hand crank.
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I'm like, you're talking a lot of craft or sewing
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and throwing distance with his gigantic camera, sir. Yeah, so
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it was fine. I didn't think I had very many issues.
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And actually the movie itself though back to that, it
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was so freaking funny. It was like the lonely Island guy.
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I think his name is like Yorma to Comb or
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something like that. It's it's a strange, strange name, but
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it's like Yorma to Comb or some something along those lines.
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He's the guy that did never stop or pop star
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never stopped, never Stopping.
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Okay, yeah, I know of it, but I haven't seen it.
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Okay, you remember in hot Rod, he's like Andy Sandberg's
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little brother who like like the film camera, like the
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cool beans.
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Yeah, yeah, he's that guy.
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He's done. He's snl skits, but he's been doing a
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lot of writing and directing and stuff in like recent years.
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And yeah, this is his newest one, and dude, it
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is so funny. I always busting up laughing, and it
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actually delivers some like some genuine horror moments here and there,
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some like I don't want to say too much, actually,
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I don't want to ruin anything, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.
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The acting was funny, and.
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I'd say, that's high praise coming from you, so it's
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worth checking out.
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Then the Yeah it Haw's the lady from Ready or Not.
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She kind of looks like Margot Robbie, but it's not. Yeah.
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Yeah, she's in everything now.
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Yeah, she actually yeah, and she had the sequel for
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Ready or Not come out just a little bit of yeah,
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so she's in this too. Yeah, and Jason Siegel is
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like the main guy.
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She's the she's the new Pedro Pascal, right.
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Yeah, that's hilarious. Yeah, she's or No freaking Zendeia is
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the Pedro Pascal right now. She's in like four right now,
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you know, four big movies. Oh gosh, I'm getting off topic,
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but yeah, I absolutely love that movie. If you like
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that style of humor, you absolutely need to see this one.
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You need to see in theaters because you're gonna I
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think it's absolutely hilarious and the horror actually surprised me,
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like there was there's some really funny elements to it.
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Mm hm, that's balanced out with some good scares. I
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think we uh we mentioned that, you know a time
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or two, like you got to have some moments of
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levity to make the scares that much more feeling, and
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this movie does that in speedes nice.
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Yeah. I I like the trailer for it. You know,
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it kind of evokes that feeling of a married couple
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in their like forties that are now having difficulties and
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then you know, they what is it They discover that
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each one might be trying to kill the other one.
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Oh yeah right.
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It was like, okay, that's a cool hook because like
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it's a relatable thing. Let's see where it goes. Right,
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So that's uh, that's good. I wanted to see it anyway,
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I just I missed it.
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It just came out.
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I think, yeah this week, I think, yeah, yeah, this
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is by the time the episode's out.
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Yeah right, so go see it and you go see
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it yourself. West I will do that, and I believe
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that's all caught up for me.
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Cool.
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I don't think there's anything tomorrow we're going to be
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seeing Evil Dad. So that's next.
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Yeah, forty fifth anniversary. Yeah, well again, as as of
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this recording being out, we may have potentially already have
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seen it and it was great. We are going to
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see it and it's going to be great either way.
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Yeah, we know this is a fantastic We were roll
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the dice on this one, which is nice.
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No, we were talking before the recording. I'm excited to
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see Evil Dead, which you know, started off as an
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eight millimeter film by you know, a bunch of bunch
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of kids that we're friends for so long up in Michigan,
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just making movies, right, And to see that go from
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like an eight millimeter blurry type movie to what's potentially
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on a giant screen, that's incredible. So yes, holy crap,
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forty five.
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Years right, good lord, that is that is an incredible
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feat And yeah, shocking that have spent that much time already.
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Yeah, crazy, all right, So what do you go for
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this great stuff?
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Yeah? So this one I kind of like to operate
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in those spaces where it's probably a movie that you
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you may have heard of, but you probably didn't get
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around to see end. And so it's that hidden gem
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type of pick.
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Right, hidden gem type of pick.
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I'll give you a hint if you want to guess
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at it. This is late two thousands, like sci fi thriller.
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Late two thousands, sci fi thriller. I was thinking Looper originally.
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No, that's a good movie.
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Though Looper's good, that's probably like two thousands, right.
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I want to say that one's early twenty tens. Okay, Yeah,
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I want to feel I want to get in.
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That period of time is kind of a blur post
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two thousands kind of everything starts to kind of feel,
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you know, like all it runs together.
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Yeah, everything in that Xbox three sixty era.
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Yeah, it's exactly. It's the it's the era of like
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brown in different shades of brown and piss folters, yes,
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and everything.
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Looper was twenty twelve, twelve, Loper was twenty twelve, okay,
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but this movie is specifically twenty ninety. You want to
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know who like the I think the stars are, uh,
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give me one. Dennis Quaid.
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Dennis Quaid two thousands? Is it frequency?
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Nope?
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Is it?
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I was thinking you you probably haven't seen this one.
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It's like a deep in that cult classic territory. I
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don't give me another person, Ben Foster, Ben Foster, I
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have no idea anchorman exactly right now, drum rule please,
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we're tonight. We were watching Pandoram.
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I don't think I've seen it, or if I have,
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I completely forgot it.
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Well that would be on brand with the movie. All
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we'll see a little bit. But yeah, I was hoping
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this was going to be one that you haven't seen,
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and I was to show you this really cool. This
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is how I described this one. I think in our
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text earlier, I said this one kind of feels like
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my generation's version of Dark City.
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That's right, Yeah, Because when you had told me that,
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I was kind of doing a little bit of research
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and trying to figure like, okay, what could it potentially
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be because I was like, I'm pretty sure it's going
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to be two thousands.
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Like Super slept On, Like it didn't get the attention
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that should have type of thing.
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Yeah, and then I was kind of thinking like, okay, well,
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what what are different ones? What could it be?
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Don't read too much now, No, I'm not gonna I'm
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excited to show it because.
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Turns yeah, it does not seem familiar to me at all.
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I know, like I can picture it, like the the
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font and like the poster.
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You've seen it on the shelf at some point.
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Yeah, but I couldn't tell you if I've watched it,
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so I will tell you afterwards if I have watched it.
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But yeah, it might just be the hyper sleep.
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It could be it's you know that the damn hibernation sickness.
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It gets what happens when you get frozen in carbonite
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for three years exactly? You know you don't you don't
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pay job of the hut, then you're a dead man.
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So awesome, Well how about we go watch the movie then?
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Huh. Yeah, that's a good idea. So why don't we
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do that? Uh, we'll take a short break here and
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we'll be back.
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H m hmm. There's the rest of the crew. They
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don't really know.
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Sir, Lieutenant Peyton. Anyone respond?
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Where does everyone Peyton? Or what you're here? S are
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on board? Hello?
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Hello, someone has been through here.
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Don't move you just wake up here. You let them
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make it.
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Those things out there they can see me here, little.
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They're fast. They're stronger than you know. If they come
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after you run, if you run and you don't look back. Hell,
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what's happened to us. We're becoming like them. Oh my god,
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my wife, I can find her for those animals.
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To assume that the help will be coming, save your pledge.
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Some of it is what happens in a passenger.
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How do you think you would react if you knew
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the truth?
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Pandoram whoa two thousand and nine? You said, m hmm, okay.
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I don't think I've ever seen the trailer before, and
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I don't think I've seen the film until tonight.
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Yeah, that was the first time I ever seen the trailer.
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I actually have a little bit of a fun backstory
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on how I stumbled on this movie. Oh yeah, it
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was I would say probably like twenty ten, like shortly
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after the movie came out, and I believe it was
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on Blu Ray, you know, kind of making the rounds
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for like an early Blu Ray movie, you know. And
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my mom's boyfriend, Randy, he was the guy in that
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tattoo shop, and he's the one that showed me the
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cool games like got a War and Ninjugating and you know,
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stuff like that.
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Nice good.
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I was like, yeah, in the neighborhood around his house
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one time, and I was like popping by to see him,
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and uh yeah, it was. He was just like, oh, yeah,
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have you seen this movie yet? You know, he's just
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always trying to show me the next cool thing that
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he's on. Right, he showed me the band, you know,
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freaking Cage the Elephant, and you know, he just showed
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me the all cool stuff. You know, this that or
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the other. Whatever it might happen if it's cool he shows.
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You know, he was just trying to culture me a
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little bit.
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It's like scream Randy that's into like nerdy shit, but
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he's like sharing it with other people. Yeah.
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Yeah, he's passing that torch on. You know. I was
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the younger, yep, right, And uh yeah, he was like, oh,
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you got to check this movie out, you know he was.
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I'm into those cult classics and stuff, freaking Donny Darker
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or whatever. So yeah, I put this on and I
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was just like absolutely hooked from like starting to finish.
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I remember watching it on his PlayStation three. It's just like,
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mind blown.
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That's super cool. I remember seeing the poster everywhere now
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that I think about it, but never saw the film.
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I don't know why. Well, I guess it's like I
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completely forgot about it after a couple of years Pandoram Yeah,
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Pandoram's box. I don't know.
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No, Yeah, I didn't get a whole lot of word
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of mouth or buzz or anything like that. There was
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just like, if you've seen it, you were like, oh, dude,
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like it was your duty to at least tell one
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other person about it because it's just that interesting.
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Well, and that's the thing too, Like I don't I
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don't know if I remember hearing about it that much,
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Like just I feel like I should have.
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Yeah, and if you see, you were the few that
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saw it were passionate, but it didn't really get like
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widespread attention like it should have.
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Well, hopefully this podcast will help boost it by about
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three percent. Yeah, you know, because that's the fun of
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doing podcasts and stuff, right when you're discovering films and
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talking about them. I think this is a perfect topic
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for a podcast, especially because you're familiar with this one.
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I haven't seen it at all, and it's one that
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may have come out a bit too early for itself,
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because I think had it come out later, maybe it
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would have been more well received.
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Yeah, and if I recall, I can definitely look it
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up with a power of the Internet of my fingertips here,
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But I think it also came out the same year
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that the original Avatar did, so maybe people are alike either. Yeah,
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sci fi fatigued out, you know.
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Well, and it's hard to go up against something like
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that that's got like a massive budget and this is
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like a very solid mid tier sci fi film.
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Yeah, this one is two thousand and nine as well.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, so's it would be the equivalent of
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something like a video game releasing the same day a
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grand theft at does it's just you know, like business suicide, right, Yeah,
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it's just gonna get swallowed up by the wave of
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the popular thing. So I can totally see Avatar just
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stealing all the spotlight for something like this because uh yeah.
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Well after we'll get into uh, probably a more detailed
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discussion about that. But can you see why I called
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this my Generation's Dark City.
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A little bit? Yeah, I see where you're coming from there,
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because it's got it's got some similarities. And then yeah,
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it's kind of again that that same sort of pattern
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of a movie that was just kind of largely ignored
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it launch maybe right, or does.
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Not have the attention that it deserves.
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But if you know, you know it was. It's one
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of those this is already I could say that this
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is a movie that you could keep in your back
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pocket to to recommend to somebody. If you're gonna have
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your list of like five movies to recommend, check this
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one out. Put put this one on the list.
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You know, Yeah, this is your sleeper pick.
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Yeah, yeah, cool, cool, awesome.
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Well, I think with all that being said, I'm good
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to start.
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Yeah round film you uh, yeah, you've got the knowledge
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on this one, so yeah, lead us on this journey.
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Yes, I got quite the script on that. There's quite
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a few twists in turns, and I tried to write
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it in such a way where you know, there, you know,
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as we get to those twists, that they're not totally
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out of left field, and I, you know, try to
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keep the spirit of the movie. I'll lie have at
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least to some small degree, so that those twists are
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you know, done justice. So sorry, it's a little bit
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wordier than usual. With all that being said, let's go.
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Oh that's fine, we'll have fun talking about it.
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Yes. By the year twenty one seventy four, Earth's population
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was twenty five billion, so we launched the Elysium and
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absolutely massive spaceship. But whenever we check in with a
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crew on the bridge, they were given a heartrending message
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Elysium is all that's left of mankind. Good luck, god bless,
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and godspeed. Notably, the only name that we see is
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from Officer Gallo, who is looking presumably at his captain
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with an unraveling gaze, and then skipping ahead an unknown
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amount of time. Corporal Bower wakes up after dreaming of
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a blonde woman, and very briefly there's a note about
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enzymes and hypersleep, but you know more on all that
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stuff later, right, little warning label blink and you miss
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it type of shot. And then Bauer as he kind
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of wakes up, he sheds off heaps of dead skin
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and struggles to get his bearing since he can hardly
488
00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:32.519
remember anything, but he at least knows he's on a
489
00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:35.480
ship and based on his tattoo on his forearm, he's
490
00:24:35.519 --> 00:24:38.359
a part of the fifth flight crew. What do you
491
00:24:38.359 --> 00:24:38.599
think it?
492
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:38.839
Yeah?
493
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:40.559
What's your temperature? Right now?
494
00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:43.799
I love this setup already. I mean I'm I'm a
495
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:47.680
huge science fiction fan and alien type fan. This kind
496
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:49.319
of stories like, I like that kind of stuff as
497
00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:52.519
far as like space horror. I think it's you know,
498
00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:55.200
there's so many things that you can do with it.
499
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:59.279
And this is already super cool because you know, you
500
00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:02.000
just imagine just first of all, like you get the
501
00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:05.079
message that you know, or it's like you're all that's left,
502
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:09.119
and given the time and distance in which it takes
503
00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:11.839
for messages to arrive, like by the time they get
504
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.240
this message, like this shit happened like way.
505
00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:18.279
Long ago, and so like yeah, so that's realistic.
506
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.240
Yeah, but it's true, I mean, given given the relative
507
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:27.319
distance and everything. Yeah, but so that's already.
508
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:30.200
Like, uh, you know, that's chilling already it is.
509
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.480
Yeah. And then the fact that you know, much like
510
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:36.799
Alien has done for this genre, like just the sheer
511
00:25:37.119 --> 00:25:40.640
feeling of being trapped on a ship with something else
512
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:44.279
that's not supposed to be there is already terrifying. But
513
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:47.559
now you know, Earth's there's no Earth, it's.
514
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:52.279
Gone, right, so like life rafter safety that there's no right,
515
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:54.079
no gutter ball rails for you.
516
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:57.680
Yeah. But then to just be kind of like matrixed
517
00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:01.319
into the film so to speak of just being unplugged
518
00:26:01.319 --> 00:26:04.839
from the battery yeah, and dumped onto the floor of
519
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:07.359
a ship and you have no idea where you're at,
520
00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:07.960
what's going on?
521
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:11.400
What a great setup, dude, it's so cool, and like,
522
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.400
there's the fifth flight crew, so what about the other ones?
523
00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:16.400
So it's already like kind of asking some questions.
524
00:26:16.480 --> 00:26:19.119
So and for me, having seen this for the first
525
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:22.039
time this year in twenty twenty six, a year of
526
00:26:22.039 --> 00:26:25.440
our lower twenty right, like, I'm already getting kind of
527
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:29.599
like Expedition thirty three vibes, where you know, as you
528
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:31.559
play that game, you start to find out that there
529
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:35.680
were previous expeditions that, uh, you know that that tried
530
00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:38.759
to get farther and you don't know until you're like
531
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.240
discovering it along the way a little rug pole. Yeah,
532
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:44.920
And so when you're reading the lore, the backstory bits,
533
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:47.880
it's talking about like, you know, where they made their
534
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.640
final stand kind of shit, brutal. Yeah. So I'm already
535
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.680
like I was already on board for a story like that.
536
00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:56.400
I was like, oh, okay, this has got me interested
537
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:59.200
now because I didn't, I guess I assumed that this
538
00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:01.759
movie would have been like just like a space monster
539
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:03.200
type movie.
540
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:05.559
Is a little more going on than that, though.
541
00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.720
There is, and that's it's a pleasant surprise.
542
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.440
I know, right, Like the movie seems like it's gonna
543
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:12.839
be very predictable, but then there's like twists, and then
544
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:14.920
like there's even more twists.
545
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:16.759
Yeah, all right, but we'll.
546
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:20.119
Get to those soon. The ship starts showing obvious signs
547
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:23.279
of distress, and just as Bauer starts to pray for help,
548
00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:26.680
is called to a higher power, is answered by Lieutenant
549
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.359
Peyton waking up from his pod, and a couple of
550
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:31.799
things to point out. Peyton has visibly less dead skin
551
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:35.039
on him, but he well, and he also doesn't seem
552
00:27:35.079 --> 00:27:38.359
to remotely recognize the photo of the woman in his locker,
553
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:42.160
unlike Bauer, who saw a picture of that blonde woman
554
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:43.440
and you know, kind of longed for it.
555
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:46.319
Can we talk just briefly about that little trope of
556
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:50.720
like seeing the wife in like the the flashback shots,
557
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:52.720
Like that's such a thing that pops up in movies,
558
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:53.200
you know.
559
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:57.480
Oh yeah, it's like instant relatable, a handwavy motivation. Yeah,
560
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:58.880
it's like, here's your quest.
561
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.200
But also to like that that little trope's been been
562
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:04.519
done to that so much that it's just obvious every
563
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.079
time you see it. Now you're like, well, that that
564
00:28:06.200 --> 00:28:07.119
person's probably.
565
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:07.519
Dead so dead.
566
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:12.079
Yeah, like, you know, it's like the Gwyneth Paltrow and
567
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.680
you know rolling around with the sheets. Was that from
568
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:16.839
like Contagion or one of those movies?
569
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.000
I can't tell you something.
570
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:21.240
And it's like, wow, you know she's yeah.
571
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:26.839
Just hear that like oof noise the sound effect. Yeah, yep.
572
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:31.920
So yeah. Peyton doesn't like it, even like remotely recognize
573
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:34.440
the photo of the woman in his locker, but they
574
00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:38.039
get a console operational with auxiliary power, and then doing
575
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.920
some math based on Bower's fifth flight crew tattoo and
576
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.079
the fact that they have two year shifts, they wonder
577
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.359
how things have gone so wrong in just eight years.
578
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:51.519
That's that's again, that's a cool little uh nod here,
579
00:28:51.720 --> 00:28:54.079
like how long has this been going on? What's what's
580
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:54.680
our time frame?
581
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:56.839
I had a lot of questions being asked, all the
582
00:28:56.920 --> 00:28:58.359
answers being given, right like that.
583
00:28:58.400 --> 00:28:58.920
I like that.
584
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.759
But either way, the two understand that they need to
585
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.119
save the otherwise doomed ship, so Peyton charts a path
586
00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:09.359
for Bauer to get to the reactor. A narrow ventilation
587
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:11.880
shaft is the only way in or out, and while
588
00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:14.839
crawling through it, Bauer remembers that he is the ship's
589
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:18.279
technical engineer, and I got a little trivia break here
590
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:22.799
plugged in, so let's see. In an interview with Screen Daily,
591
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:27.279
the director Christian Albert spoke about how this movie got started.
592
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:31.240
He read a script by the writer Travis Moloy about
593
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:35.079
a story set on a prison ship, and he thought
594
00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:37.440
it was strikingly similar to his own ship or his
595
00:29:37.480 --> 00:29:42.000
own script excuse me, called nowhere about four astronauts aboard
596
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:46.200
a settlership quote unquote, whatever the heck that is. And
597
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:49.559
then Albert Moloy and the producers all thought both of
598
00:29:49.559 --> 00:29:52.519
those scripts were very similar, and they combined them into
599
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:53.200
this movie.
600
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:57.799
Okay, yeah, it's definitely it sounds like a like one
601
00:29:57.839 --> 00:30:01.720
of the rejected script it's for Alien three almost, or
602
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:03.119
kind of a similar thing, because.
603
00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.039
Like Riddick was or Yah Black was, Yeah.
604
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.000
Where you have like a prison ship and you have
605
00:30:09.079 --> 00:30:11.960
you know, some prisoners and there's like a virus or something.
606
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.559
It's been around like this could very well be like
607
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:18.400
an Aliens film, or it just it feels like a
608
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:22.680
solid RPG adventure story.
609
00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:25.240
Yeah, I don't agree. This is like the Blade Runner
610
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:27.039
timeline where things went really wrong or something.
611
00:30:27.279 --> 00:30:32.000
Yeah, no, it's it reminds me of like so many
612
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.079
cool things in science fiction. And then you're just like, oh, yeah,
613
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:36.920
let's see what happens now, you know, like I said,
614
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.960
it's it's been eight years, Like oh shit, has it
615
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.000
been that long already? And they're like okay, well given
616
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.039
the time and distance, yeah that makes sense.
617
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.519
Right, But it's like, where is everybody? What's going on here?
618
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:49.839
Like this is obviously not how it's supposed to be.
619
00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:52.640
Yeah, because don't they say it this like it was
620
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:54.519
supposed to be a ton of people on this ship.
621
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:56.319
Right, Yeah, you're supposed to be like woking up like
622
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.039
Peyton was like, hey, isnt is someone supposed to be
623
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:01.440
around to relieve us or likely supposed to be leaving someone?
624
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:02.480
Like what where are they?
625
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:02.880
Right?
626
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:05.640
And they kind of like the bridge is locked and
627
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:08.200
they wonder like, oh, well, maybe they just can't get
628
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:09.759
to us because they're stuck on the other side of
629
00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:12.440
that door. Yeah, but the only way in or out
630
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:14.599
of where they're trapped in their little compartment is through
631
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:16.880
that ventilation shift, so they think that is kind of
632
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.119
you know, why their particular area is sealed off.
633
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:24.319
Yeah. And we were talking too before this about like
634
00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:27.519
escape rooms and I think it's an underserved market, but
635
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:29.720
I think it would be super cool to do an
636
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:34.319
escape room or fashion one in the vein of being
637
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:36.960
on a starship like the Nostromo or something like that,
638
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.440
and you know, yeah, maybe solve some puzzles, but really
639
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.559
the objective is like to survive. So it could be
640
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.279
you could have a haunted house with a science fiction
641
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.559
theme of escaping like a ship. You know, you're woken
642
00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.319
up out of like hyper sleep and there's something hunting you.
643
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.920
Like that would be that's an underserved market right there.
644
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.000
That would be fucking awesome for.
645
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:02.200
Real, like that, Like there's a regular kind of like Weeny,
646
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.160
how Junior haunted house gets my blood flow, and so
647
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:06.000
if it was like an alien themed one, yeah, it
648
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.519
would be yeah, bone chilling.
649
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.680
Yeah, So yeah, I'm here for it. Like this, This
650
00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:11.519
movie got me hooked.
651
00:32:11.519 --> 00:32:15.400
Already, write it down. We have that in our idea list.
652
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.759
It's copyright already, No one steal.
653
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:19.680
It, right, nobody's listening.
654
00:32:19.720 --> 00:32:25.759
It's fine, Jim kidding, and we've just got dang it.
655
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:31.519
Power eventually falls and becomes fatally trapped in the ventilation shaft,
656
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:34.200
but thanks to the efforts of the dead crew member
657
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.640
next to him, Cooper the corporal, is barely able to
658
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.000
reach through an opening event and unlock it.
659
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.759
That's already the first kind of sign of something weird
660
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:44.839
that there's already another body down there.
661
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:48.240
Yeah, and it looks quite dead, quite dead.
662
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:50.599
Yeah, because remember, like he's all of a sudden then
663
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.759
doesn't he realize he's like hanging, like he's.
664
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.200
How he fell down in there. He's like, I'm at
665
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.440
an angle then, yeah, that's where he saw Cooper, who
666
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:59.119
he had also made that same mistake.
667
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:02.559
Yeah, so again, much like but we talked about like
668
00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:05.160
dark souls and Elden ring and stuff like that. It's
669
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.480
like when you click on the blood stain and you
670
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.640
see where the guy just like leaped off the side,
671
00:33:09.720 --> 00:33:11.480
Like that's what That's what happened here.
672
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.119
No, it's more like for me, it's whenever you see
673
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:19.160
the messages like bonfire ahead, it was just like, okay,
674
00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:21.319
all right, well I could use a bonfire and was
675
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.079
walking my death. I'm like it had twenty appraisals, You
676
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:27.039
son of a bit yep, No, basically no, you sons
677
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:31.119
of bitches all yeah, yeah, you're all liable.
678
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.200
Yeah, So like when this happened, in the movie when
679
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:37.440
you know, when he discovers the other body, it was like,
680
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.680
wait a second, is that somebody that the same thing
681
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.000
happened to them? Like, oh shit, okay, where's this going.
682
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.480
It's more like I feel like that's like that's a
683
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:50.039
question and an answer at least couple together. There's like
684
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:54.559
someone is this is not totally uncharted space yet, but.
685
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.839
It's done in a way to keep you interested. Like
686
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.880
it it hooks you in with just these little things sleepers.
687
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:01.160
Wait a minute, what's going on?
688
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:06.680
Right? Very good mystery. Okay, So whenever he unlocks it
689
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.239
and Bawer then sees a woman running away, so he
690
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:12.000
follows her, and whenever he catches up, it's actually a
691
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.480
dead person caught in a trap. And then the woman
692
00:34:14.599 --> 00:34:17.679
ambushes our hero from the side and basically robs him
693
00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:22.320
without telling him what's going on. But suddenly blueish lights
694
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:26.400
emerge in the distance and monstrous alien mutant things called
695
00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:29.880
hunters start closing in, so the lady just pieces out
696
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.880
and Bower retraces his steps and escapes thanks to Cooper's
697
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:38.519
unwilling but notable sacrifice. M hm, that's twice Cooper saved
698
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:41.920
our hero. You know from the grave, So thank you, Cooper. Right,
699
00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:48.039
everyone poured one out for Cooper. This ship was oh yeah,
700
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:50.840
So while he's crawling around while Bowers navigating the ship,
701
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:54.840
he gets a little bit of an explanation from Peyton
702
00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:59.639
over the radio communications. Here he says this ship was
703
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:03.239
never to return home because it was a settler's vessel
704
00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:06.239
carrying sixty thousand people aboard to the only known life
705
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:10.519
sustaining planet called Tannis, or as I actually paid attention
706
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.639
to in this viewing, pronounced Tanas. So that's on me
707
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:18.599
either one. It's fine, I recorded a whole script already
708
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:22.599
mispronouncing it, so I'm kicking myself. But anyways, this is
709
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.800
the this is a one way ticket. Yeah, and they
710
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:26.480
are the cargo.
711
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:28.679
Well, I mean that's kind of you know, that's the
712
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:33.519
questions we're wrestling with with our own type of space travel, right, Like,
713
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:37.199
you know, it's it's proposally like we could theoretically travel
714
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.960
to the to Mars. It's going to take a long time,
715
00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:41.639
but we just don't have a plan for getting back.
716
00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:44.599
Yeah, it's like, that's seriously good luck once you're out there.
717
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.800
Yeah, but especially though in science fiction, it's a fun
718
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:51.639
story trope to have the settler vessel in which, you know,
719
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:55.679
like humanity is colonizing other planets. So yeah, you would
720
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.360
have to send you know, a ship of settlers. Well,
721
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.760
I mean it happens in a you know, LV four six.
722
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.679
You know it was settled, you know, however long ago.
723
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:07.159
You know, they come in, they set up the reactors
724
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.920
and all the shit, one way ticket and they just
725
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:10.920
live there and work there.
726
00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.920
IV. Yeah, happy birthday.
727
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:18.679
Yep, alien, somebody built a dollar General there. You know,
728
00:36:18.800 --> 00:36:21.199
there was a minards or.
729
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.119
Case going to but there was already a subway.
730
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:26.199
Yeah that's true. Yeah, it's a it's a one horse
731
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:30.000
town for that. But yeah, I like that concept of
732
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:33.199
you know, the vessel that it well, and they don't
733
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:35.559
have an earth to go back to anyway. Yeah, but
734
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:37.159
even if they did, they would have no way to
735
00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:37.840
get back either.
736
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:39.679
Yeah, like they have no way to get there. But
737
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:41.840
there's also no other help or anything.
738
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:43.639
Yeah, you're you're in it to win it and you're
739
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:45.400
on your own right, good luck.
740
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:50.920
Yes, But as our memories returned to our hero, he
741
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.599
kind of wonders why did he leave that woman in
742
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:57.360
his dreams? So our momentarily considers diverting from his course
743
00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.039
to go save his wife, but Peyton reminds him that
744
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.400
everyone is doomed if the ship doesn't make it. So
745
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.400
our hero arms himself with some Riya gear and gets
746
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.960
back on track to the ship's reactor. Next, the corporal
747
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:12.480
gets some bad news because Peyton just remembered something. The
748
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:17.639
ship was never built to return home. So I guess
749
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:19.159
as we were just kind of like going into a
750
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:22.840
discussion there, Yeah, yep, like they don't have anybody to
751
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:26.639
help them even if they get to the bridge right. So,
752
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:30.400
after our hero starts to feel a little anxious, he
753
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.519
asked Peyton about a word that keeps coming back to him, Pandoram.
754
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:38.400
But after hearing that chilling word, it reminds the lieutenant
755
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:42.239
of the worst disaster in space travel history. Roughly two
756
00:37:42.280 --> 00:37:45.599
years into a flight called the Eden, an officer had
757
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.280
a breakdown. Thinking that the ship was cursed. He did
758
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.119
the unthinkable and sent fifty thousand people into space in
759
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.239
their pods, dooming them all, and the pilots called the
760
00:37:55.280 --> 00:37:57.559
madness Pandoram.
761
00:37:57.159 --> 00:38:01.320
Space madness, Space madness. Yes, yep, yep, I love a
762
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:02.719
good space madness story.
763
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:06.199
Yep. We're big fans of Futurama around here, so we
764
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.599
couldn't help out, referencing the Ocean Madness episode Ocean Madness. Yeah,
765
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.800
like every time we could, we'll get there.
766
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:14.679
Yeah right, No, I love the I love this kind
767
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:19.239
of trope two of ejecting all of the population and
768
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.559
stuff like that, like just you know some crazy shit
769
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.760
that looks somebody went crazy, you know, like it's it's
770
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:27.239
got that event Horizon sort of vibe to it, or
771
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.360
in the mouth of Madness, where you know, somebody just
772
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:33.920
snapped and made some really bad decisions.
773
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:36.679
Like I can't it's hard to like see that much loss.
774
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:40.440
It's just like there's such this tragic feeling it evokes.
775
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:43.679
Yeah, and it reminds me a lot of the I
776
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:46.519
like the Zeno Blade games like On the Switch and stuff,
777
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.519
and Zeno Blade Chronicles X is kind of like this
778
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:55.159
where the story is a ship launches from Earth as
779
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:59.559
Earth is being attacked by aliens, and so the ship
780
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.000
is attacked in route, crash lands on a planet, and
781
00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:03.960
then you spend most of the game like looking for
782
00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:08.960
the survivors and trying to navigate, you know around like
783
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:12.440
the indigenous life forums and do quests and ship like that.
784
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:14.840
So it's cool. It's I like that kind of story.
785
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.840
I had no idea. The lore for Zeno Blade was
786
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:19.159
like I thought it was just I knew there was
787
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.360
something about giants or something like you live on some
788
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:22.119
giants or something.
789
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.639
Well on the yeah, the main games. Yeah, but X
790
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:27.840
is kind of like a side story one or like
791
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.679
a you know, not quite connected. It is, but it
792
00:39:30.719 --> 00:39:35.599
isn't a prequel. Maybe it's just more of a separate game.
793
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.679
Well, but it's that lower all sounds very fascinating.
794
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:43.000
Yeah stuff, Yeah, that's that's why I like about science
795
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:45.320
fiction stories that you have. You can have cool stories
796
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.239
like that of you know, maybe there's some alien civilization
797
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:53.119
that attacked Earth, or maybe something crash landed here or
798
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:55.599
you know, ship like that. Like that's the kind of stories.
799
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:59.480
It doesn't all have to be like Star Wars, right, Like,
800
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.760
you can tell cool stories like this and you know,
801
00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.559
whether it be alien or predator or its own kind
802
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:10.559
of thing, and there's there's value in that. I like
803
00:40:10.599 --> 00:40:11.039
these kind of.
804
00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:15.320
Stories, right, Yeah, Like if you like Yeah, as you're saying,
805
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.159
there's room for originality in here, this movie explores that
806
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:19.079
space really well.
807
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:22.840
Totally, especially as like we as people start to develop
808
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.800
more space travel stuff, like there's there's right potential for storytelling.
809
00:40:28.199 --> 00:40:31.159
Yes, and I don't think we're done posing some more
810
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:34.079
questions for everybody, so we'll keep going here, but I
811
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:36.679
probably there there are a lot of fascinating answers, so
812
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.599
hopefully we don't lose you yet setting up all these mysteries.
813
00:40:40.599 --> 00:40:45.400
But as unsettling as all that nonsense was, the show
814
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:48.119
must go on. And eventually Bauer finds another body in
815
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:51.559
a trap, but they're alive this time, and it's a
816
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:54.719
dude named Shepherd, who's heartbroken to here that Bauer just
817
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:58.599
woke up and doesn't know what's going on. But that's
818
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.760
the least of their worries, because more hunters bear down
819
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:04.199
on the two, and sadly Norman read it, I mean,
820
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.960
Shepherd can't hide well enough, and Bower uses his right
821
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:11.639
gear wristblaster to try and save his comrade, but it's
822
00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.199
useless and it only draws the ire of the leader.
823
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:16.800
Okay, so we got a lot to unpack just in
824
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:20.840
this section here, Because first of all, like we get
825
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.280
our first look at these creature things, right, and they
826
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:26.320
look kind of they remind me of the monsters from
827
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:26.840
the Descent.
828
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:29.440
Yeah, you absolutely nailed that. That. It's exactly how I
829
00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.840
can describe him. They were like almost one for one
830
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:33.199
freaking Descent Monster.
831
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.719
Which is great. Yeah, it's Descent Monsters in Space, which
832
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:36.800
is even more terrifying.
833
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:38.360
That's a way better name for this movie.
834
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.280
Yeah, Descent Monsters in Space perfect.
835
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:41.840
The working title, I'm sure.
836
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:45.280
Yeah. Yeah, but also too, it reminds me of a
837
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:47.920
little bit of Firefly and Serenity when they had like
838
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:51.039
the Reavers. You know, you get bordered by like just
839
00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:55.840
a barbaric group of aliens that are just like bent
840
00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:58.079
on causing violence. Like that's terrifying.
841
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:01.559
I know of Firefly and stuff, but yeah, I don't
842
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.159
know that. I'm much more familiar with the Descent. Sure, sure.
843
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:07.440
So yeah, so we meet them and then here comes
844
00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.519
Norman ritis drops out of the tank. I was like,
845
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.920
is that Norman Das? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, shit, I know
846
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.760
he's in this Okay, so up Darryl. Yeah. So all
847
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:19.559
of a sudden, which is great because like so he
848
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:24.199
wakes up and like he's basically like my hero. Yeah,
849
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.519
he's like what's happening? Like you don't know what's happening.
850
00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:30.039
Like it's like he knew what's happening already, like.
851
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.400
He yeah, he like covers himself with some oil as
852
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:34.880
the preachers come in, so he's like he's experienced it,
853
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.119
but he's obviously caught one of their traps, right, so
854
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:39.800
he at least knows a little bit more than Bauer,
855
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:41.840
which is like kicking the nuts to him to hear that,
856
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.719
Oh yeah, this guy who's from the flight crew, he's
857
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.400
supposed to be, you know, the guy who's in charge
858
00:42:46.400 --> 00:42:48.400
of what's going on. He don't know, Dick, And.
859
00:42:48.320 --> 00:42:50.440
That's what he says. He's like, you're you're supposed to know.
860
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:52.880
And you don't know, right, Yeah, that would be just
861
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:53.719
a hard crit.
862
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:55.559
So again, I like how these this movie kind of
863
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.039
just doles out these little nuggets and you're piecing the
864
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.039
story together because now it's like, Okay, how long has
865
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:04.440
this been going on? Like what's his story? You know?
866
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:10.079
Yeah, because he I believe is on like flight crew six,
867
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.199
so like since Bowers on flight crew five, Yeah, he
868
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.639
expects there's beans the one to leave him. So he's like, oh, yeah,
869
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.559
what are you part of the retraction crew or something?
870
00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:18.960
Right?
871
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.440
Negative ghost right now? Yeah? And Norman Readers is only
872
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:24.159
in here for all of like a few minutes in
873
00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:25.719
this movie before he's getting gotted.
874
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:29.400
Yeah, that's why we uh don't know that Norman Readers
875
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:30.960
is in this movie, because yeah.
876
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:32.559
Exactly, I actually do have a little bit of trivia
877
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:35.000
on why he's in here though. Trivia break, Yeah, tribut break.
878
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.039
If you're wondering why so, see I already I already
879
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.119
predicted this my script. I'm just reading it verbat him. Still,
880
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.440
if you're wondering why the superstar Norman Readers is even
881
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.280
in this movie, especially since he dies in like two seconds,
882
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:50.519
it's kind of a two part answer, And the short
883
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:52.840
answer is that this movie came out a year before
884
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:55.239
The Walking Dead premiere in twenty ten and launched Streetis
885
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:59.079
into superstardom. But also he worked with a director, Christian
886
00:43:59.079 --> 00:44:01.159
Albert in a movie back in two thousand and five
887
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:06.480
called Anti corpor or Antibodies translated into English, and the
888
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:10.800
fella who's like the leader of the Hunters, his name
889
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:14.840
is like Andre Hennick or Hennicky, I'm not exactly sure,
890
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:19.599
but he was also in Antibodies, and he that same
891
00:44:19.639 --> 00:44:23.960
fella can be seen without his makeup very briefly on
892
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.639
that flashback on the bridge. He's the older guy who's
893
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:29.039
in charge of that. Gallo is seemingly looking at so
894
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.239
nice little kind of noding. You can't se him without
895
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:33.480
all the crazy hunter makeup on for just a moment.
896
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.960
Sure, well, we can't forget to mention Norman Ritas and
897
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.199
Boodox Saints though as well. I'll be one of the
898
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:42.239
first things that a lot of us sort of like
899
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:43.920
champion him, you know.
900
00:44:43.960 --> 00:44:47.519
For there was a firefight. Yeah, I love that movie.
901
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:50.840
Yeah, and now look, Norman Ritas has made like two
902
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.800
Death Stranding games and has like crossed over into like
903
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:57.719
interactive fiction with like Hideo Kojima and shit like that's
904
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:00.800
cool for real. Yeah, it was. It was cool to
905
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:04.280
see him in this movie. I was surprised that to
906
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:08.000
see him get torn apart all of a sudden.
907
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.400
It was a bummer. Yeah, he just liked working with
908
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.760
the director and Anti corpor and he just wanted to
909
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:14.840
work with him again whenever he knew this movie was
910
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:15.199
coming around.
911
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:17.880
It makes me think of did you ever see Deep
912
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:21.840
Blue Sea the nineties the Giant Shark movie negative?
913
00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:23.679
I remember seeing like cover like the poster for it.
914
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:26.119
But yeah, it's got Samuel L. Jackson in it for
915
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:29.159
all of like a second because he's like, you guys
916
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:30.760
got to get your shit together or something like that.
917
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:33.000
He gives this big speech in front of a you know,
918
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:34.639
open part of water.
919
00:45:34.440 --> 00:45:37.400
And I've seen that on YouTube. Yeaheah, I remember seeing.
920
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:40.440
Yeah, that's his cameo, just instantly dead.
921
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:45.079
Same thing, recognizable. Actors chommed, Yeah, yep, but it works.
922
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:48.000
It's a good stick. But yeah, the blaster shot only
923
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:50.559
draws the leader of the i R. So like he's
924
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.840
got a run now to save his own life because
925
00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.960
I guess at this point I wrote this to be
926
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.639
less graphic, but Norman Readis did not serve the attack,
927
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:03.079
so our hero runs for his life.
928
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.320
Get that's a good death scene for him because like
929
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.199
he got kind of pulled apart as if it was
930
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:10.639
like a zombie attack. Like you said, it was a
931
00:46:10.719 --> 00:46:13.400
year before Walking Dead, so that's kind of interesting too.
932
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:17.480
So if you want to see his eventual end to zombies. No,
933
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:20.199
I'm just kidding, put that out there. My favorite character
934
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:20.760
of that show.
935
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.840
No Nobody, Nobody can kill Norman Rita's like he's he's
936
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.519
got plot armor for life because he brings in the
937
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:31.039
entire like housewife demographic I would say.
938
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.840
And whatever demographic, man I'm that's me. I'm a housewife,
939
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:42.800
demographic unabashed Norman Rita's fan or Darryl Dixon fan especially. Yeah,
940
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:44.639
but yes, our our hero runs for his life and
941
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:48.639
takes an unexpected tumble, but thankfully his leg was caught
942
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:50.760
up in a wire and he lives. The hunters trying
943
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.039
to pull the wire up, but a new ally named
944
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:57.280
man comes to Bauer's rescue. Bauer lost his colms while
945
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.639
running away from the Hunters, so he makes his best
946
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:02.760
guess at getting back on track to the reactor, but
947
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:07.280
he's quickly ambushed by the woman from before. She kicks
948
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.280
the corporal's ass, so Mon tags back in and fends
949
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:12.840
her off until Bauer calms things down with his REI
950
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.000
gear and asks for her help to get the reactor. So,
951
00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:18.559
just like that, we kind of have our misfit party.
952
00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:21.320
Yeah yeah, because now we have the Oh I.
953
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:23.320
Guess, the hunters start close again. Then it kind of
954
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:25.519
forces her to join the other two. She doesn't really, right,
955
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:27.400
I guess, mentioning that.
956
00:47:27.280 --> 00:47:31.400
We saw this character earlier once or twice, right, like
957
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:36.199
she was on the ship or whatever. And again, each
958
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.119
of these character types is like kind of different because
959
00:47:39.159 --> 00:47:42.599
they had like different jobs or whatever. But I don't know,
960
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:44.159
she's kind of like the I would say, like the
961
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:47.400
rogue type character. I guess, right, Like she's got like
962
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:50.719
the yeah, like she attacks like a dagger, you know,
963
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:53.280
short sword kind of stuff up close combat.
964
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:56.119
Yeah, nimble, kind of like speedy type of character.
965
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:59.800
Yeah. Yeah, she's almost like the the Alice character in
966
00:47:59.840 --> 00:48:04.239
the Resident Evil movies, you know, like the Milajevovich type character.
967
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:06.199
I see what you're going for.
968
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.159
Yeah, yeah, I feel like, especially with Paul W. S
969
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:12.239
Anderson kind of reducing this film, he was probably like
970
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:16.079
maybe maybe that was supposed to be Mila or something.
971
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.119
I don't know, but or a similar version.
972
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:21.719
Yes, I absolutely I can see that. That's like an
973
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.039
archetype that I bet he's very familiar with. And he's
974
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.800
just like, yeah, it works. Yeah, people love to see it,
975
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:27.880
and yeah, she's a great character.
976
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:31.679
Yeah. It's again, it's fun to see these mishmash of
977
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:35.199
characters kind of have to band together to fight off
978
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:37.559
an alien menace.
979
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:42.159
That that's cool, right, yeah, because I mean they might
980
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:44.360
have their own differences, they're all trying to survive or whatever,
981
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.760
but yeah, like there's no reasoning with the monsters.
982
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:49.760
So it's like and you know, like the person that
983
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:52.400
got thought out might have just worked in like a
984
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:56.400
cookie shop or you know, like, yeah, mon's agriculture, right, yeah,
985
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:59.920
one guy's agriculture. You know, one guy's military, and then
986
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:03.599
there's like somebody that worked at like Cane's Chicken or something.
987
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:05.599
So we got to have them.
988
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:09.880
They're essential. Yeah, But the new girl is Nadia, and
989
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.159
she guides the group to part of the ship that's
990
00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:17.800
slowly flooding, but it's her home. It's the Ecological Development Team.
991
00:49:18.639 --> 00:49:20.920
They were the ones she's the last one on the
992
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.719
team notably, but they're the ones responsible for preserving all
993
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:26.840
the DNA of life on Earth, sort of like Noah's arc.
994
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:31.440
Yeah, they've got the like the frozen tanks full of
995
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.960
you know, the the DNA. You know.
996
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:38.480
Yeah, they said that they have lost a good amount
997
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:42.280
of it over time. But you know, she's doing all
998
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.920
that she can to keep the monsters from getting the
999
00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:45.400
rest of it.
1000
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:51.280
Yeah, and like she's growing, like there's grasshoppers and trees
1001
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:52.760
and ship she's growing stuff.
1002
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:56.320
There's a there's a bit on this grasshopper here or
1003
00:49:56.440 --> 00:49:59.880
we get there this second though, but more memories returned
1004
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.039
to Bower during this brief moment of peace, and he
1005
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.559
recalls how their flight was designed to last one hundred
1006
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.920
and twenty three years and again based on power Stattoo,
1007
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:10.480
and there are two year of flight cycles. Power wonders
1008
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:12.920
how all this could have happened after eight years but not.
1009
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:16.079
He proposes that maybe they've been asleep quite a bit
1010
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:18.920
longer than they thought. And here's a little tangent about
1011
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:23.199
that power ate one of those grasshoppers that she has
1012
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:27.239
in her little lab here for protein, and Ben Foster
1013
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:29.800
dead ass ate that for he wanted like he insisted
1014
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:33.280
on actually eating the live grasshopper for like authenticity. I
1015
00:50:33.360 --> 00:50:35.880
suppose Wes was traumatized. Sorry West, I should have given
1016
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:36.159
you that.
1017
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:40.559
Yeah, sorry, I was incredible. I've watched movies about people
1018
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:42.960
getting their brains pulled out of the back of their head.
1019
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.880
But yeah, he draws the line of fucking grasshoppers everybody.
1020
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:51.639
Yeah, although kudos to that method grasshopper allowing himself to
1021
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:55.840
die for his art so respect.
1022
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:59.280
Oh god, oh my god, the method grasshopper.
1023
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.039
Yeah. I didn't see that one, Kevin, did you?
1024
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:06.199
Oh? Yeah, didn't see Yeah, that's perfect. I don't know, like,
1025
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:07.519
I don't know if that needs to be a stick
1026
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:09.440
or a T shirt or something. But the mathic pour
1027
00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:11.320
one out for the methad grasshopper or for.
1028
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:12.159
The metha grasshopper.
1029
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:18.360
But god, god, I it was pretty calibrate. Over here
1030
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.559
threw me for a loop. Yeah, but okay, yeah here
1031
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:23.480
here I am.
1032
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:24.599
In the script finish your grasshopper.
1033
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:28.119
Yeah, after he finishes the grasshopper, chomp, chump. But in
1034
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:31.760
the script, it was not a grasshopper. It was this
1035
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:38.039
orange block of severely dehydrated, dehydrated meat loaf, and it
1036
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:41.400
was so hard that the party wondered, like how long
1037
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:44.440
they had been in hyper sleep? Oh that's hilarious, Like
1038
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.559
it was hard as like a cementer or something. So
1039
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:48.199
I think that's kind of a nice nod. I think
1040
00:51:48.199 --> 00:51:49.480
that would have been cool for the mystery.
1041
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:54.320
Yeah, it's just this gelatinous cube of nutrient paste. Yeah
1042
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.880
that's been fused together, but it's yeah, at.
1043
00:51:56.760 --> 00:51:58.920
This point it's it's like it's dehydrated, but it's like
1044
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:02.599
a brink, right, So they're like, well, I think he
1045
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:04.320
what he says, like eats it and it like tastes
1046
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:06.679
like cardboard or something like that, and she's like, it's
1047
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:09.960
supposed to be meatloaf and that's one of the good ones.
1048
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:13.039
Yeah, you know, it's the MREs that tastes terrible, right,
1049
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:17.599
yeah yeah. Or it's the egg salad sandwich from the
1050
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.519
gas station master. Yeah yeah, what's that black cracker? A tomato? Tomato?
1051
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:27.400
Yeah? Classic. Let's check in with Peyton and see how
1052
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.639
he's doing. So he tried and failed to smash his
1053
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:34.079
way into the bridge, but after hearing some inexplicable noises,
1054
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.280
a man is sort of like birds from the inside
1055
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.840
of the ship itself, begging for help between bouts of
1056
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:44.239
overwhelming fear. The man says he's Corporal gallow and he
1057
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.960
came from the bridge. But we, the attentive audience, do
1058
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:50.920
in fact recognize Gallo as the man in the background
1059
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.400
on the bridge during the intro when the leasing was
1060
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:56.760
getting that final message from Earth that bastard, right, you
1061
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:01.519
son of a bitch? Trivia break m triviubrik. So this
1062
00:53:01.599 --> 00:53:05.039
movie was planned to be the first entry in a trilogy.
1063
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:06.960
Oh man, I know, I know.
1064
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:08.239
Where's the rest of them here?
1065
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.840
Bear with me, We're gonna at least they There were
1066
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:15.239
some interviews and some scoops that were got over the year,
1067
00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:16.960
so we knew what would have happened.
1068
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:19.760
Kickstart this ship. It's not too late. Get this ship
1069
00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:20.480
in production.
1070
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:23.679
Dog, I'm telling you, like where the special effects are cheap,
1071
00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:26.320
Now just do it. You're gonna be mind blown at
1072
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:28.639
this ship. But anyways, hold on, we'll get there at
1073
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.079
the very end of everything. I don't want to like
1074
00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:31.960
spoil how the movie ends, So whenever we get to
1075
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:33.679
the ending, I'll tell you where the writer was going
1076
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:34.079
to take it.
1077
00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:35.360
A perfect We'll get there perfect.
1078
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:37.840
So this movie was planning to be the first entry
1079
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:39.800
in a trilogy, but since it only made twenty million
1080
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:41.920
dollars on a budget of thirty three million dollars, of
1081
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:45.400
sequels never happened. Details are a little scarce online, but
1082
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:48.199
Screening Daily did an interview with the director, Like I said,
1083
00:53:48.239 --> 00:53:52.280
Christian Albert, and he said, quote, there are concepts ready
1084
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.559
for a second and third part which would not simply
1085
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:58.079
be the same and could even be a different genre.
1086
00:53:58.320 --> 00:53:59.199
Yes, end quote.
1087
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:01.239
Yes, But like I said, I'm going to get to
1088
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:04.960
where the writer, the other writer, Travis Molloy, would have
1089
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:05.840
taken this series.
1090
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:06.800
M hm.
1091
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:08.519
So stick around for that. Well, we'll get there here
1092
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:10.159
in just a little bit. We're already we're like about
1093
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:14.800
halfway through this movie. But back to Bauer and the others.
1094
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:19.880
Nadia leads them further into the ship and unfortunately they
1095
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.960
have to cross the monster's main hunting grounds, the personnel
1096
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:25.000
hyper sleep chambers.
1097
00:54:25.079 --> 00:54:29.840
Ah, that old chestnut, gotta crawl through the U the
1098
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:30.719
enemy's layer.
1099
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:32.639
Right, yeah, I think this is where we get like
1100
00:54:32.639 --> 00:54:35.519
the obligatory trash shoot Star Wars reference or so, it's
1101
00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:36.960
something loosely.
1102
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:39.559
Like that kind of has that feeling. Yeah, you put
1103
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:42.599
the you put the heroes in like the worst possible position.
1104
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:45.719
At this point, like Bower like falls through a trap,
1105
00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:47.880
and I described it as being like a like a
1106
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:50.039
dark soul's trap is like literally the floor caves out
1107
00:54:50.039 --> 00:54:50.800
from underneath them.
1108
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:53.840
So is that when they're crossing like that bridge to
1109
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:54.519
the reactor.
1110
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:58.559
Oh no, that's that's later on. This is like earlier,
1111
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:02.440
like whenever they're trying to be stealthy that for three
1112
00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:04.480
v one, the guy they fall into the trash shooting
1113
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:06.400
processing old man.
1114
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.000
Okay that when they first fight that dude.
1115
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:12.679
Yes, yes, so real quick Bower falls into a trap.
1116
00:55:12.800 --> 00:55:14.599
Nadia kind of goes down there and it's like this
1117
00:55:14.679 --> 00:55:18.199
trash shoot thing, but uh, ultimately it leads them to
1118
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:20.360
doing like a full like three v one with a
1119
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:21.519
hunter that was after them.
1120
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.360
So this scene was cool too because this is the
1121
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:27.360
first time now that uh, as we're we're seeing the
1122
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:31.719
aliens a little bit more and just being revealed piecemeal, right, Uh,
1123
00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.280
now we get to test the fighting strength of them,
1124
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.719
and like one one on one, like it's very obvious
1125
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:39.280
that these things are incredibly strong.
1126
00:55:39.760 --> 00:55:41.440
They're like tossing our guys around.
1127
00:55:41.239 --> 00:55:45.119
Like, yeah, so it it It takes three people to
1128
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:49.199
fight this this one and uh man, what a what
1129
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:52.920
a great fight scene because uh, the other thing I
1130
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.639
like about movies like this, when you you cast people
1131
00:55:55.760 --> 00:56:01.599
that like are not super huge famous, you know that
1132
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:04.800
the characters don't really have plot armor for sure, right
1133
00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:07.519
you know, so when you have like a fight scene
1134
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:11.280
like this, you're not really sure if your heroes are
1135
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:13.840
going to live or not because you know they're not
1136
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:16.440
Like it's not Brad Pitt, right, Brad Pitt's not dying
1137
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:21.039
in the in the second reel of the film. So
1138
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.559
I like this too because then they fight this thing
1139
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:27.519
and they finally get the upper hand and they stab
1140
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.119
it and then they just hack it to pieces, just
1141
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:31.480
stab the hell out of it, right.
1142
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:34.000
Yeah, it's like literally all they can do to take
1143
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:34.119
it in.
1144
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:37.159
Yeah, Like if you were in this position, you know,
1145
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:40.719
on a ship, you know, and it's either us or
1146
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:43.679
them kind of thing, like who's the real monster at
1147
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:44.039
this point?
1148
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:44.360
Right?
1149
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:45.239
Like it's crazy.
1150
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:46.960
Kind of makes me think of like I am legend
1151
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:47.480
a little bit.
1152
00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:50.199
Yeah, and like if you were put in that position,
1153
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:52.719
like what would you do as a character that that's
1154
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.119
the kind of stuff that's fun to play with from
1155
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.880
like a writing standpoint or just a movie standpoint.
1156
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:00.840
Yeah, you need you a murders trying to survive where
1157
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:05.559
they are, I guess yeah. Yeah. But unfortunately, turns out
1158
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:09.320
that the leader that Bauer saw earlier was watching the
1159
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:11.800
whole time during the three V one and afterwards he
1160
00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:14.639
sends in his whore to finish the hunt. Yeah, after
1161
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:19.519
his champion died. Thankfully, they successfully get away because of
1162
00:57:19.559 --> 00:57:23.119
a couple of things happening. First, the hunters paused to
1163
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.360
cannibalize their fallen comrade.
1164
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:26.440
Yeah.
1165
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:29.440
But the second reason is because a new crew member
1166
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:31.079
woke up at the worst time.
1167
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:35.199
Oh my god, this park's great. Yeah, it's terrible, but
1168
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:36.840
it's funny, like pure nightmare.
1169
00:57:37.440 --> 00:57:41.719
Yeah, yeah, you can go tell the masses.
1170
00:57:41.840 --> 00:57:44.719
Yeah, just the fact that, like I mean, there's a
1171
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:48.199
swarm of these alien creatures pouring in here and our
1172
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:51.679
heroes are trying to escape, and just at this time
1173
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:54.159
here comes here's just a pod opening up, and there's
1174
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:55.440
a dude just waking up.
1175
00:57:55.559 --> 00:57:57.239
Literally all of them are like screws.
1176
00:57:56.840 --> 00:57:59.480
And they're all just right there. You know. It's like,
1177
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:01.840
I mean it it's just basically a zombie film at
1178
00:58:01.840 --> 00:58:04.360
this point, like somebody that just wandered in and there's
1179
00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:06.880
all the zombies. They just this dude's just getting torn
1180
00:58:06.920 --> 00:58:09.880
apart because he's just hanging like still plugged into all
1181
00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:10.159
the shit.
1182
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:11.480
Literally got door dashed.
1183
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.360
Yeah, yeah, your order has arived exactly.
1184
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:16.960
They're like hold up.
1185
00:58:17.199 --> 00:58:20.320
Yeah. So it was like a Cabin in the Woods
1186
00:58:20.400 --> 00:58:23.280
kind of moment, you know, like just that cheesy kind
1187
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:25.679
of horror stuff where you'd be like, yeah, that's that's
1188
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:27.440
funny because it's dark and twisted.
1189
00:58:27.760 --> 00:58:30.039
It didn't need to happen, but I'm glad that it did.
1190
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:34.599
Yeah yeah, but yeah it could could happen, like you know,
1191
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:38.760
like statistically if in this situation, like, yeah, the thing
1192
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:40.639
would open up and there's monsters right there.
1193
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:42.719
I mean, it is their main hunting ground for a reason.
1194
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:44.719
And that dude like to be in like hyper sleep
1195
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:47.320
and then just wake up and that's happening, Like damn,
1196
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:49.079
that's terrifying.
1197
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:53.159
Literally, but there's a good little bit of a tribute
1198
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:55.840
for that. Bower is restrained from helping the poor man
1199
00:58:56.679 --> 00:59:01.119
because he is played by John Foster, Ben Foster's brother,
1200
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:04.960
and this was their first movie scene together. Okay, interesting,
1201
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:07.239
So that was literally like him watching his brother dae.
1202
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.519
I mean, that's that's motivation as an actor right there,
1203
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:12.360
right right, Yeah.
1204
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:13.000
He's cool.
1205
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:16.400
Yeah, but it buys the character's time though. You know.
1206
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:18.760
It's one of those things that like it has to
1207
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:21.199
happen for the characters to be able to get away.
1208
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:22.000
You know.
1209
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:24.159
I think they probably could have written it were like
1210
00:59:24.440 --> 00:59:26.679
they were able to get away because they were cannibalizing
1211
00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:28.760
their guy. But I think it's just kind of like
1212
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:30.800
cool little bit of thing to like convince us like
1213
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:32.840
this is why this is their main hunting ground. Yeah,
1214
00:59:32.880 --> 00:59:34.719
people just keep spawning here effect.
1215
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.400
Yeah, I mean it's from the alien's point of view,
1216
00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:41.360
it's just kind of like these are like dinner bells, yeah,
1217
00:59:41.519 --> 00:59:43.960
like vending machine capsules that just open up and then
1218
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:47.119
there's just you know, the crunchy bits inside.
1219
00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:49.719
It's it's the mummies from Futurama exactly.
1220
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:54.159
Yeah, yeah, I was going to eat that mummy. Yeah yeah,
1221
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:58.960
that's not taki flavor. Yep.
1222
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:06.000
Meanwhile, Peyton has been trying to recover or sorry, Payton
1223
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.159
had been trying to get any information from Gallo, but
1224
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:12.840
although Tton can ascertain is that the new companion came
1225
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:17.920
from the bridge, Gallo then cryptically claims that he did
1226
01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:21.280
what he had to do because against all odds, both
1227
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:24.159
of his crewmates went mad and suffered from pandoram.
1228
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:26.920
Oh shit, run space madness.
1229
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:32.920
It seems insurmountable, but that's his story. Peyton presses exta
1230
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.440
dow and prepares a sedative just in case Gallas spirals
1231
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:39.760
any further, and the guy almost certainly has a screw loose.
1232
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:43.079
Wellgan kind of like the thing, you know, as each
1233
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:46.480
character gets introduced, you just don't know if they're telling
1234
01:00:46.519 --> 01:00:47.199
the truth or not.
1235
01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:53.480
It definitely has introduced a lot of ambiguity or speculation. Yeah,
1236
01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:54.440
rumper doubt.
1237
01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:57.559
Especially too, because we keep learning that these characters different
1238
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:01.639
ones woke up at different times, have had different experiences,
1239
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:05.840
and so we're finding out along with the characters in
1240
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:06.360
a way.
1241
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:10.000
Right it's a nice pace and drip feed information right now. Yep,
1242
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:15.280
Gallo accusativelly lists these symptoms of PANDORAM, like shaky hands
1243
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.480
and hallucinations, and then after getting into Lieutenant's face, he
1244
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:21.719
asks what he would do if he knew the truth.
1245
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:25.480
But back to the main quest. The party escapes into
1246
01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:29.639
a dank, algae covered room where they meet the barely
1247
01:01:29.719 --> 01:01:33.599
saying Chef Leland. The cook offers to whip up something
1248
01:01:33.639 --> 01:01:36.840
for his new friends, and while they wait, Nadia shares
1249
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:40.639
her idea with Bauer. She's theorized that the hunters are
1250
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.239
actually the crew instead of hyper sleep enzymes adapting them
1251
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:48.920
to Tannis, they could have somehow adapted to survive here
1252
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:52.199
on the Elysium, and Leland is surprised at his guests
1253
01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:54.639
don't know what's going on, but he's been awake for
1254
01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:58.079
a long time, and by using ancient recordings and drawings
1255
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.440
carved on the wall of the ship itself, the chef
1256
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:04.800
gives everyone the answers. After the second flight crew received
1257
01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:10.039
Earth's final message, Gallo's mild case of pandoram rapidly accelerated.
1258
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:11.039
That's a problem.
1259
01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:12.079
Dun dum dum.
1260
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:16.800
Yeah. Yeah, so hyper space madness yep, space madness yep.
1261
01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:21.760
Without supervision of the chain of command on Earth, Gallo
1262
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:25.119
offed his crew the other two board of the bridge,
1263
01:02:25.719 --> 01:02:29.079
and he became a twisted, self proclaimed king of the ship,
1264
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.719
serving as both God and the devil. But after a.
1265
01:02:32.679 --> 01:02:35.599
Long time, doesn't this sound like sam neil an event Horizon?
1266
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:39.599
Yeah? Absolutely, like he's like that madness creeping in Yep,
1267
01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:44.760
totally does. But after enough time, the king would grow
1268
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:47.360
bored and he'd return to sleep. But little did the
1269
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:50.440
king know the poor souls that he'd left damned on
1270
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:53.719
the vessel would mutate and become the Hunters. And little
1271
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.599
did our heroes know Leland was knocking them out with
1272
01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:01.159
gas during his whole Lord dump. Yeah, trivia five, But
1273
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:02.760
what do you think first before we move on to
1274
01:03:02.800 --> 01:03:06.360
trivia break, just overall, yeah about that crazy lord dump
1275
01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.079
about the king and oh I.
1276
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:10.480
Think I loved it. I love the fact that it's
1277
01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:13.239
I like when the ship's carved on the wall and
1278
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:17.800
it's being told like a mythic story, right right, that few.
1279
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:20.719
That blend of like sci fi futurism with like but
1280
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:23.360
also carved with like ancient past. I think that's an
1281
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:25.119
awesome thematic.
1282
01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:28.360
It's like the mysticism of it, right.
1283
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:31.760
Yeah, Like Horizon Zero don has like techno wilderness stuff.
1284
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.679
I just like that kind of that overlap, I guess.
1285
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:39.599
Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially then because you don't trust a
1286
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.800
new character when they you know, come up at first,
1287
01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:45.000
and then he's telling the story and then all of
1288
01:03:45.039 --> 01:03:49.159
a sudden, we cut and the camera turns and our
1289
01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:52.920
heroes are hanging upside down, right, and so like he
1290
01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:55.400
gassed him while he was telling the story, So like
1291
01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:56.239
you know, he's.
1292
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.199
But it's he tells a really really good story that
1293
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:02.719
everyone aboard the ship is going to be really captivated by.
1294
01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:05.559
So it's a perfect chance to deploy that trap totally
1295
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:08.159
while you're doing the recordings and doing all this like
1296
01:04:08.199 --> 01:04:10.159
press digitation, right stuff.
1297
01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:12.480
Yeah, we would have all fallen for it.
1298
01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:15.800
Got me some a bit. Yeah, yeah, it'd be like
1299
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:18.800
some not twenty on the passive perception or something to
1300
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:19.320
get through that.
1301
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:21.559
Yeah. No, at this point in the movie, like I mean,
1302
01:04:21.599 --> 01:04:24.599
I was I was hooked fairly early. But I like
1303
01:04:24.679 --> 01:04:28.920
how it just kind of starts doling things out, you know,
1304
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:34.719
because just it works, it keeps you. I think learning
1305
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.239
as you go along with the characters is a fun
1306
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:41.239
way to do it because then you know you don't
1307
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:44.320
have to over explain and answer everything right away, like
1308
01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:46.000
you find out with the character.
1309
01:04:46.320 --> 01:04:49.639
Right. Yeah, you're still like being thrust through the adventure. Yeah,
1310
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:52.239
you know, with like danger hot on your heels.
1311
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:54.000
And then on a rewatch you look at it differently
1312
01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:56.800
because then you know, you know, you know what the
1313
01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:59.400
hook is, and so then it takes on a different
1314
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.920
life of like how you view the movie now.
1315
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.800
Right, But don't worry everybody, I will go through all
1316
01:05:04.840 --> 01:05:08.000
the little clues that kind of revealed twists later towards
1317
01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:12.800
the end of the breakdown here there was something I
1318
01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:17.119
was going to say, dang it, dang it, I'll move
1319
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:19.440
on to Trivia break five if it doesn't come back
1320
01:05:19.480 --> 01:05:21.840
to me. But it was something of kind.
1321
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:23.280
Of I do love the ship design. When they show
1322
01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:25.440
the exterior of the ship, I think it's really well done.
1323
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:29.480
Oh hell yeah, it looks awesome. Well, the little train
1324
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:30.719
of thought I had for a moment is it coming
1325
01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:31.960
back to me, so I will just move on to
1326
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:36.880
trivia break five. Considering the Elysium has developed a whole
1327
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:39.679
sense of mythology of its own, it's fitting that the
1328
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:41.800
name of the ship is borrowed from Greek mythology, where
1329
01:05:41.800 --> 01:05:45.719
it effectively refers to their heaven. You probably remember that
1330
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.159
scene and Gladiator or Russell Crows walking through the fields
1331
01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:49.679
of wheat, and it looks all pretty and stuff like
1332
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:53.760
that's the place. But the name also works well because
1333
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.519
we know that the Elysium was intended to be humanity's
1334
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:58.320
last chance to get to Tanis, which is kind of
1335
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:00.840
like our promised land of sorts. So I think it's
1336
01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:05.039
a very fitting name. M all right back to our
1337
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:09.239
main quest, huh. So checking in with Peyton for just
1338
01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:13.800
a second, his mind was seemingly unraveling as Gallo was
1339
01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:17.199
telling him a very similar version of Leland's story, but
1340
01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:20.360
with his commanding officer being the one that went mad,
1341
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:24.400
and his commanding officer is no longer around to give
1342
01:06:24.440 --> 01:06:26.320
his side of the story, so I think it's pretty
1343
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:29.320
safe to assume that Gallo is the mad King of
1344
01:06:29.320 --> 01:06:34.880
Elysium at this point. So over to the party, Leland
1345
01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:37.360
almost carves them into stakes kind of as you are
1346
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:39.639
alluding to. They wake up cameras like upside down here
1347
01:06:39.679 --> 01:06:40.639
like damn it.
1348
01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:41.039
Yep.
1349
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:46.360
But starting with Nadia, you know, she gets stabbed, so
1350
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:49.679
we're definitely in danger. But by pointing out that there's
1351
01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:54.719
increasingly frequent power surges, Bauer convinces Leland to release them
1352
01:06:54.800 --> 01:06:56.760
and join the party to save the ship.
1353
01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:00.719
Sorry, I stabbed you in the stomach, committed ago.
1354
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:03.719
Yeah, he has to pull some serious charisma checks to
1355
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:07.039
be like, we are for real gonna die, like I'm
1356
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:10.039
the techno engineer, literally have an hour or less, like,
1357
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:11.440
please let me save.
1358
01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:14.920
This please, but who knows how many people he's already like, uh,
1359
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:18.159
you know, skinned and eaten before that.
1360
01:07:18.360 --> 01:07:20.760
Yeah, he contemplates that best not to ask. He said,
1361
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:24.239
what's weirder, you know? Or what's stupid? Should I trust
1362
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:26.360
the guy who say anything to save his girlfriend after
1363
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:30.199
about ready to carver into a steak, or trust the
1364
01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:32.079
ship who's kept me alive for so many years?
1365
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:32.400
Yeah?
1366
01:07:32.679 --> 01:07:35.800
But after you know, pointing out all the weird sounds,
1367
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:38.480
he's like, yeah, she has been sounding pretty weird lately.
1368
01:07:38.679 --> 01:07:38.920
Yep.
1369
01:07:39.360 --> 01:07:41.239
You know, he kind of sways him over to our side,
1370
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:44.599
and we have our fourth musket here.
1371
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:46.679
M h, I guess so yeah, fourth party.
1372
01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:47.679
Fourth Ninja Turtle.
1373
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:49.079
Yeah with that.
1374
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.880
Yeah, that's the same level of reverence with the Musketeers
1375
01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:58.159
in the Ninja Turtles. They're equally cool, right it depends anyways,
1376
01:08:01.159 --> 01:08:03.280
So yep, they're all they're all joined together. But Bauer
1377
01:08:03.679 --> 01:08:07.280
then uses Leland's radio to call Peyton and he snaps
1378
01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:10.159
out of some sort of trance, and then he guides
1379
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:13.800
the party to the reactor. All the while, Gallo keeps
1380
01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:17.840
trying to get Peyton to doubt Bauer, but the eagle
1381
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:20.760
eyed viewers will likely have noticed that Gallo's name tag
1382
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:23.920
change for just a moment. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna
1383
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:25.479
revisit that detail.
1384
01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:29.600
Yeah, always check downs later, always read the name tags.
1385
01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:31.920
Yeah. This I like the clue that this movie points
1386
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:35.359
out for the ELI viewers. It's like that that type
1387
01:08:35.359 --> 01:08:38.159
of second watch stuff you can normally yep, like you
1388
01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:41.640
were saying, but with less than an hour remaining, they
1389
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:45.079
got a hustle. But they encounter a child hunter, which
1390
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:47.720
Mon wants to kill, but Nadia makes him show mercy
1391
01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:50.439
man allows it to call the Horde the.
1392
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:54.840
Creepy child hunter alien thing. Yeah, let's talk about that
1393
01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:57.359
for a second, because that was that's a good creepy
1394
01:08:57.359 --> 01:08:58.560
special effect right.
1395
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:00.199
There, played by the director's daughter.
1396
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:05.640
Perfect Yeah, yeah, because uh you know, there's like that
1397
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:07.840
moment and she's like, don't kill it, and then like
1398
01:09:07.960 --> 01:09:10.640
it goes off and alerts the others.
1399
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:16.239
Literally scree man, that's the crame one, Like, that's that's
1400
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:18.079
your job. It's like literally they sent her out like
1401
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:20.039
as like a scout or something like. It seemed to
1402
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:20.920
be practiced.
1403
01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:23.279
Yep, craziness.
1404
01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:25.159
I know, it's like, oh, you son of a bitch.
1405
01:09:25.199 --> 01:09:25.880
She should have done it.
1406
01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:26.920
Yeah, you should have done it.
1407
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:27.680
Instant regret.
1408
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:30.640
Like this is such a cool story though, I mean
1409
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:32.880
it just it feels like if you were sitting around
1410
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:37.199
with your buddies, uh, playing a tabletop RPG, like a
1411
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:40.720
one shot, this would be the kind of story that
1412
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:43.680
you would you would tell and like just play through
1413
01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:44.159
in a night.
1414
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:47.720
How sick would that be? That's just so inspiring.
1415
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:48.399
I want to do it.
1416
01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:50.840
I want you to d M a space campaign totally
1417
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:59.039
tonight tonight, Oh cut cut over this rocks, fall time,
1418
01:09:59.399 --> 01:09:59.840
good night.
1419
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:02.079
No.
1420
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:04.800
But the we are getting closer to the end though,
1421
01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:06.680
we're getting to the third act or the final act.
1422
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:09.199
Oh no, it's it's captivating, so yeah, keep going.
1423
01:10:09.399 --> 01:10:13.520
Yes, the party successfully hides in a room that turns
1424
01:10:13.520 --> 01:10:18.000
out to be that to house the spouses pods. You know,
1425
01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:19.680
they're all asleep, of course, but this is where all
1426
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:23.560
the wives are for those of them. But instead of relief,
1427
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:27.760
Bower is heartbroken because, as we kind of alluded to
1428
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:30.720
with you know, the ethereal flashbacks, he remembered that his
1429
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:32.800
wife was one of the twenty five billion souls that
1430
01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:36.800
perished on Earth's final disaster. And they make known that,
1431
01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:39.720
like we have no idea like that information did not
1432
01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:42.079
get detain us on what took out Earth. We just
1433
01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:45.039
just like can speculate that it was nuclear naturally, maybe
1434
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:46.720
an asteroid or something, but we don't know.
1435
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:50.960
There's you'll you'll never know unless well not not in
1436
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.119
an average person's lifetime. But that's the crazy.
1437
01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:57.199
Thing, is uh, And we can't go back and check.
1438
01:10:57.600 --> 01:10:59.840
No, and it could have been you know, like was
1439
01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:04.079
he blade, It could be maybe an alien civilization blew
1440
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:05.760
it up, because I think they do show in one
1441
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:08.399
of the flashbacks there's like three planets that blow up,
1442
01:11:08.760 --> 01:11:11.159
because it shows Earth and there's two other planets behind it,
1443
01:11:11.199 --> 01:11:14.359
and like I'm assuming maybe it takes maybe it's like
1444
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:17.239
the Moon and something else, but it looks like three
1445
01:11:17.279 --> 01:11:19.640
planets were like taken out in succession kind of thing.
1446
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:22.800
Yeah, there something like on that flashback with that message.
1447
01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:24.319
So it's up to you, is the viewer to kind
1448
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:28.039
of interpret it. My head canon, I'm kind of thinking, well,
1449
01:11:28.039 --> 01:11:31.039
it'd be kind of interesting if it was you know,
1450
01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:35.199
maybe an alien civilization that wiped them out and then
1451
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:39.760
there were these you know, isolated incident of these crazy
1452
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:42.079
shit happening with these monster things.
1453
01:11:42.319 --> 01:11:44.720
Or it could just be like a solar flare activity.
1454
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:47.960
Yeah, you'll never know. Yeah, but the fact that you're
1455
01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:51.279
down to a very small amount of people, now, like
1456
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:54.239
that's it, and it's you've got to repopulate.
1457
01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:59.600
So good luck. Yeah, no pressure, No pressure is fine
1458
01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:04.439
if no worries, but the party success. Oh sorry wrong
1459
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:05.800
start wrong, start wrong line.
1460
01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:07.000
Yep.
1461
01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:09.119
So his wife was one of the ones that peris
1462
01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:11.039
during there his final disaster. Dramatic pause.
1463
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:14.399
Yeah again the dead wife trope rolling around in the
1464
01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:15.079
in the sheets.
1465
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:19.159
Yeah, you like you call that from like a mile away. Oh,
1466
01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:20.119
there's a wife in here.
1467
01:12:20.640 --> 01:12:23.760
Ye. If there's a wife in a flashback, the odds
1468
01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:24.439
are she's dead.
1469
01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:29.840
Yikes. Yeah, it's just how it's just bingos.
1470
01:12:31.119 --> 01:12:31.319
Yep.
1471
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.840
But Bower has to be given a pep talk by
1472
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:38.000
Nadia to regain his purpose. But before leaving, our hero
1473
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:42.000
sees the pod belonging to Peyton's wife, and things become
1474
01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:45.760
even more clear to him as memories return. But for now,
1475
01:12:45.880 --> 01:12:48.720
back to the main quest. Soon the party finds the
1476
01:12:48.880 --> 01:12:53.239
spire like reactor, but unfortunately they'd have to stealthily, stealthily
1477
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:56.840
maneuver pasted a massive horde of sleeping mutants to reach
1478
01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.279
it because they've evolved to live off the react there's
1479
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:01.680
nuclear byproducts.
1480
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:05.000
Oh this part is so cool. I like the fact
1481
01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:09.279
that they've now evolved to, yeah, to draw the energy
1482
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:12.640
off of it, because that's a that's a whole different thing.
1483
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:15.920
Like the enzymes or whatever you know that like change them.
1484
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:20.640
Just addicted to slurm basically. So yeah. But and then
1485
01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:24.159
the fact that yeah, he already kind of like concealed
1486
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:26.479
himself in the like in the skins.
1487
01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:28.960
Oh not yet, not yet or no, they just walked
1488
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:29.359
in through.
1489
01:13:29.399 --> 01:13:34.319
Yeah yeah, yeah, stand down, but we know, like the
1490
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:38.000
only way through like, Yeah, there's a lot of them there. Yeah,
1491
01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:40.000
and they're all just kind of like I mean, it's
1492
01:13:40.039 --> 01:13:42.760
like crawling through like the zombie infested room.
1493
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:46.079
Yeah, kind of like walking dead you cover yourself with
1494
01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:50.079
the zombie cuts or whatever. Yep, I mean there was
1495
01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:52.359
an element of that where Norman Radcy covered himself in
1496
01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:54.880
oil or whatever to hide. So they're like sent base
1497
01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:59.439
to some degree. Yeah. But yeah, as you were saying,
1498
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:03.119
things go off the rails very quickly whenever the platform
1499
01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:06.479
falls out from underneath Bower and Nadia so kind of
1500
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:09.359
splits them up. And I want to give a quick
1501
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:11.600
headcount here for everybody because there's a lot of moving parts.
1502
01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:15.800
So the cowardly Leland is staying behind as a lookout.
1503
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:18.880
Mon is now stuck holding the platform up lest he
1504
01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:21.840
wake up the horde below it. Oh yeah, Nadia is
1505
01:14:21.960 --> 01:14:24.680
waiting by the reactor's controls because he jumped ahead before
1506
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:29.279
Bower fell. And then Bower has fallen near the Hunters.
1507
01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:35.199
And as you were mentioning, using the skin of some sort, yeah,
1508
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:37.520
the like high for disguise.
1509
01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:40.000
Yeah, he puts on some some pieces.
1510
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.319
Yeah, but what would that armor name be in like
1511
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:44.960
dark souls? What would you call that.
1512
01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:51.239
Oh god, it'd just be like I don't know, wretched
1513
01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:55.880
skins or something, you know, like I don't know, redch.
1514
01:14:55.640 --> 01:15:00.159
Skins, hunters garbs or hunters flesh or something or fleshy garb.
1515
01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:05.840
Yeah, that would be a good one. Yeah, no, it's man.
1516
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:08.880
I love this part though, because this this part kind
1517
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:11.520
of reminded me like Final Fantasy seven in the beginning
1518
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:15.800
when they're going to the reactor aesthetically, yeah, visually and
1519
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:18.439
everything kind of look like that. And then yeah, going
1520
01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:21.800
across the bridge, the bridge starts to fall. The dude's
1521
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:25.680
holding on to it with like one arm x yeah,
1522
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:28.159
and then we have you know, our main guy that
1523
01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:31.279
decides that he's just gonna drop so that way she
1524
01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:32.239
can get across.
1525
01:15:32.359 --> 01:15:34.920
Yeah, heroic sacrifice. Yeah, he reads the situation.
1526
01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:39.000
He's still holding on, you know. Just yeah, it's this
1527
01:15:39.039 --> 01:15:42.279
is a nice tense scene because like as they progress
1528
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:44.880
through the movie, like we keep sealing off the doors
1529
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:47.720
and kind of like keeping the monsters at bay for
1530
01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:50.039
a little bit, and then we have the next thing
1531
01:15:50.079 --> 01:15:53.960
to deal with. So it's a lot like playing Alien
1532
01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:56.560
Isolation or any of that stuff, where like those kind
1533
01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:59.199
of horror games like Outlast and stuff like that where
1534
01:15:59.680 --> 01:16:02.520
you get like a brief minute to breathe, but like, okay,
1535
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:04.439
then you got it. We got to figure this out.
1536
01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:05.279
We gotta get through it.
1537
01:16:05.279 --> 01:16:08.000
It's like, okay, I just use my save ribbon. Yeah,
1538
01:16:08.319 --> 01:16:09.359
breathe for just a moment.
1539
01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:11.880
And also too, like seeing this movie like makes me
1540
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.159
want to play Dead Space because it's kind of in
1541
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:17.640
that same vein again of like space Monster.
1542
01:16:18.199 --> 01:16:20.079
Things about Dead Space. I've never played it, but yeah,
1543
01:16:20.119 --> 01:16:21.439
I'm curious about that game.
1544
01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:24.000
Dude. It's I mean, it's resonable foreign space. You would
1545
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:24.319
love it.
1546
01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:25.079
That sounds dope.
1547
01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:30.680
Yeah. Yeah. I like where the movie is at this
1548
01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:33.760
point with the tension, Like it's really just we're just
1549
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:34.600
ratcheting up.
1550
01:16:35.119 --> 01:16:38.520
Yes, like all the like the Hunters kind of have
1551
01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:41.079
a nice fever pitch right now, and then like all
1552
01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:44.520
the mysteries get explained really soon. So we're in a nice,
1553
01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:48.640
nice point of the movie right now. It's so exciting.
1554
01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:52.239
But goddamn Leland, I hate him so much. We'll get
1555
01:16:52.279 --> 01:16:56.600
to that in a second though, where am I? Oh yeah,
1556
01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:59.359
so he has the disguise yep, all right, So he
1557
01:16:59.399 --> 01:17:02.039
makes his way up the reactor and then Leland's dumbass
1558
01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:05.000
drops a flashlight. You know if he wasn't even doing
1559
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:07.760
anything helpful, he was just looking out and it drops
1560
01:17:07.760 --> 01:17:11.520
a flashlight and wakes up all the hunters as Bowers
1561
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:12.600
climbing up to the reactor.
1562
01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:13.720
You knew it was gonna happen.
1563
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.239
I know, I hate this guy. Like and then he
1564
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:18.159
just runs. He like doesn't like do anything, He just
1565
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:18.600
like takes it.
1566
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:22.279
He's like, oh yeah, I feel like in a modern film,
1567
01:17:22.279 --> 01:17:24.279
that would be a character trying to take a selfie
1568
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:26.840
with all the monsters in the background. And then she
1569
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:30.479
drops her phone and then that's just what causes everybody
1570
01:17:30.520 --> 01:17:31.239
to wake up. Yep.
1571
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:34.359
And then everyone goes boo boo that person. You're bad
1572
01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:37.479
and you should feel bad. Yeah, and then it's like
1573
01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:39.560
all like scream too, and we all just like get her.
1574
01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:40.640
Yeah yep.
1575
01:17:42.079 --> 01:17:45.640
Anyways, Uh, now that everything has officially hit the fan,
1576
01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:49.199
Mond drops the platform as a distraction to give Bauer
1577
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:51.960
Nadia time to successfully reset the reactor.
1578
01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:53.720
Oh yeah, and they crushed like a bunch of them
1579
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:55.079
as he drops the bridge on him.
1580
01:17:55.119 --> 01:18:00.039
Yeah, like an environmental like extra xp Yeah. So he
1581
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:02.800
sets the reactor and the discharge wipes out most of
1582
01:18:02.840 --> 01:18:04.840
the Hunters, but not all of them. Good amount of
1583
01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:07.399
them are still you know, given chase, but a big
1584
01:18:07.439 --> 01:18:11.119
old explosion takes out a good vast majority of it. Yeah,
1585
01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:15.000
Peyton and Gallo are still at each other's throats because
1586
01:18:15.039 --> 01:18:18.399
Gallo is convinced that the ship is doomed, and they've
1587
01:18:18.399 --> 01:18:21.560
started fighting over a trank gun or the one that
1588
01:18:22.680 --> 01:18:25.399
Peyton had prepared earlier, just in case Gallows started spiraling further.
1589
01:18:26.600 --> 01:18:29.560
But we get back to them soon. There is a
1590
01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:31.640
whole lot more action going on with our party. So
1591
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:34.880
Mond out runs most of the Hunters, but he has
1592
01:18:34.960 --> 01:18:37.720
to settle things with a final duel with the hunter,
1593
01:18:38.439 --> 01:18:41.000
the lead hunter excuse me, yep. And this is awesome
1594
01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:43.199
because he like arms his challenger to make it like
1595
01:18:43.239 --> 01:18:44.119
an honorable fire.
1596
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:49.159
Yeah, you'll die as a warrior kind of thing. This
1597
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:52.319
dude was already, like the cook was already pretty badass
1598
01:18:52.520 --> 01:18:57.479
or the agricultural guy, right, Yeah, like he already could
1599
01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:00.439
fight and stuff and so like, yeah, putting him up
1600
01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:03.560
against like an enemy general kind of thing and giving
1601
01:19:03.640 --> 01:19:04.960
him a fight scene is always fun.
1602
01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:06.479
Yeah, just giving the people what they want.
1603
01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:08.600
Yeah, really, let's see it.
1604
01:19:09.439 --> 01:19:12.920
Yes, there's like a grueling battle, but Mon defeats the
1605
01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:17.039
leader in Mortal Kombat. Yeah, but ironically, it would be
1606
01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:20.560
our champion's mercy that ends him whatever is he or
1607
01:19:20.600 --> 01:19:23.920
whenever he is killed, whenever he hesitates to take out
1608
01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:24.439
the child.
1609
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:28.960
Yeah. Well yeah, let's unpack that real quick there, because
1610
01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:32.079
as he's fighting the champion, I guess you could say.
1611
01:19:32.079 --> 01:19:32.960
The lead hunter guy.
1612
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:35.680
Yeah, and that guy like what stabs him like in
1613
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:38.680
the stomach or something like that, right, and then like
1614
01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:41.199
his response is to just like keep stabbing this guy
1615
01:19:41.239 --> 01:19:42.399
in the head or something.
1616
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:47.000
Is like eating Mon, and Mon takes out one of
1617
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:48.039
the spikes and his like.
1618
01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:50.279
Armor, that's what it was, and then he's stabbing him
1619
01:19:50.319 --> 01:19:51.039
with the spike, right.
1620
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:53.520
Stabs him in the back of the spine.
1621
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:57.840
Yeah, So you're cheering for him because he overcomes the
1622
01:19:57.840 --> 01:20:01.680
the guy and then he underestimates the kid and the kids.
1623
01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:04.920
Just like but you do see that Mon was likely
1624
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:09.199
pretty gravely wounded. Yeah, yeah, bite, so it's like he
1625
01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:10.680
probably wasn't gonna make it anyways.
1626
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:12.640
No, but like you just you just want to see
1627
01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:17.079
that character, you know, succeed as heroically as possible until
1628
01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:20.359
he can't anymore. Yeah, And it's like, oh, he's undone
1629
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:22.920
by like, you know, underestimating his enemy.
1630
01:20:23.119 --> 01:20:24.880
Right, you wanted him to go down fight at least
1631
01:20:24.880 --> 01:20:27.560
a couple more things or something like that. Not such
1632
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:29.600
an unsatisfy Yeah, I gets right.
1633
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:34.279
Is not unsatisfying, Like it's it's definitely it.
1634
01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:35.880
It's not the blaze of glory you wanted for.
1635
01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:38.680
Him, but it's I think it works because it takes him.
1636
01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:42.520
It takes that character by surprise, and it's like, oh man, okay,
1637
01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:45.039
yeah that was that was crazy. So like even we
1638
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:49.680
as as the audience have underestimated the child monster thing too.
1639
01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:51.479
It's like still a monster.
1640
01:20:51.800 --> 01:20:54.520
It's yeah, blink and you miss it. So it is slashed. Yeah,
1641
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:56.159
you drop your guard for a moment.
1642
01:20:56.479 --> 01:20:58.000
It was raised to be a monster.
1643
01:20:58.479 --> 01:20:59.520
So terrible.
1644
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:01.800
Yeah.
1645
01:21:01.800 --> 01:21:04.239
But while the party was restoring power to the ship,
1646
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:08.560
Peyton locked Gallow in a pod. But even muting it
1647
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:12.560
wouldn't stop the Corporal Gallows taunting. And I do want
1648
01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:15.399
to point out I only noticed this during this watch,
1649
01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:21.279
but whenever Corporal Gallow gets locked in the pod and
1650
01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:23.800
after I just alluded to the little hint there for
1651
01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:25.920
everybody on a big twist that's coming up. But he
1652
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:29.000
can still hear them whenever it's muted. But one thing
1653
01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:31.279
that I had failed to write that I'm going to
1654
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:34.319
tell you now that we'll expand upon it here in
1655
01:21:34.359 --> 01:21:37.960
just a minute. He starts. Instead of calling him Lieutenant Peyton,
1656
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:41.680
Gallo was in there screaming. He's calling him corporal. He's
1657
01:21:41.760 --> 01:21:45.920
yelling like, you can't save it, corporal. Yeah, nice little
1658
01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:49.479
hint that I just caught on this viewing. But anyways,
1659
01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.479
then somehow the prisoner escapes the pod, so the two
1660
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:54.720
would begin fighting over a train gun, and during the
1661
01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:58.199
scuffle we see that the pair have the exact same
1662
01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:03.439
flight crew number two tattoo. So whenever the brief struggle ends,
1663
01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:07.640
we see that Gallo forces Peyton to take the sedative,
1664
01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:10.840
and since they're like tattoos, kind of merged together, and
1665
01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:13.720
then there's only one person standing there. Whenever it all
1666
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:16.039
is said and done, we kind of get an idea
1667
01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:21.359
that there was never ever a person accompanying Gallo or
1668
01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:24.479
accompanying Peyton. But Gallo was, in fact Payton the whole time.
1669
01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:27.720
I knew it. This was the Tyler Jurden moment of
1670
01:22:27.760 --> 01:22:28.079
the movie.
1671
01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:30.760
Yeah, it totally was. Yeah, And that name tag thing
1672
01:22:30.840 --> 01:22:34.840
I alluded to earlier was Gallow's name tag like flickered
1673
01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:35.920
to Payton's for a little bit.
1674
01:22:36.039 --> 01:22:41.960
Yeah. Yeah, it's very obvious through through the movie that
1675
01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:46.439
he's got the space madness pretty bad, you know, he does.
1676
01:22:46.600 --> 01:22:49.399
And his hands were shaken, started getting some nosebleeds and
1677
01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:51.199
little things that I didn't want to like spend all
1678
01:22:51.239 --> 01:22:52.960
the time to like point out every once in a while.
1679
01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:54.520
But yeah, they've been like planning that seed.
1680
01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:58.279
But yeah, as he was talking to him like throughout,
1681
01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:00.720
like it was just it was very obvios. So it's like, Okay,
1682
01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:02.880
that's that's the voice in his head or he's you know,
1683
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:06.439
all the weird shit that's going on here, you know,
1684
01:23:06.680 --> 01:23:11.439
Dennis Quaid's space madness. But yeah, it was cool, Like
1685
01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.159
I called it from a mile away, but I still
1686
01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:15.279
enjoyed it, you know.
1687
01:23:15.600 --> 01:23:17.640
Like it's kind of like a two part twist because
1688
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.000
it's like one, oh, well it's someone that he's not
1689
01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:23.399
really there, and like, oh well yeah.
1690
01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:26.680
It's like oh it's you, right yeah, and just being
1691
01:23:26.720 --> 01:23:30.479
haunted by that kind of shit, right, m h.
1692
01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:34.319
I love it. So things are hitting the fan, like
1693
01:23:34.319 --> 01:23:36.760
I said. So meanwhile, Naughty and Bower have been hot
1694
01:23:36.800 --> 01:23:39.680
on Leland's tail, but Leland managed to make it all
1695
01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:42.359
the way back to Peyton's console, where we get a
1696
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:44.760
pretty good idea what's going on here, because whenever we
1697
01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:48.079
see things from Leon's point of view, Lieutenant is alone,
1698
01:23:48.199 --> 01:23:50.960
and now that Peyton seems to have regained his memories,
1699
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:54.159
he gives Leland some instant karma and kills him with
1700
01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:57.319
his cold sense of calculation before Peyton goes to the
1701
01:23:57.479 --> 01:24:01.880
newly unlocked bridge. Now that power has returned the remaining
1702
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:03.119
hero I'll.
1703
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:06.640
Just saying that's a pretty quick turnaround of events right
1704
01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:07.079
there too.
1705
01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:10.000
Yeah, a lot of things happened really fast from here
1706
01:24:10.039 --> 01:24:13.720
on out. Yeah, our remaining heroes brute forced their way
1707
01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:15.760
through the doors and backtrack their way to the console
1708
01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:18.680
and fine Leland's body. But they also find that the
1709
01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:22.840
bridge has been opened, and remember the rest of Bower's
1710
01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:26.359
memories returned after he saw Peyton's wife's pod, So he
1711
01:24:26.439 --> 01:24:30.199
confronts his quote unquote lieutenant on the bridge about his
1712
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:33.920
reign of terror. Peyton is shocked that they even know
1713
01:24:34.199 --> 01:24:35.920
about that reign of terror, you know that they even
1714
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:39.119
know so much, but he tries to break their minds
1715
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:42.720
even further whenever he opens the elysium shields to reveal
1716
01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:46.800
that there's nothing outside. It's just pure black, not even stars.
1717
01:24:48.479 --> 01:24:50.760
But then we learn from all this slow dump and
1718
01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:54.359
from some information on some monitors that the ship left
1719
01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:57.319
Earth nine hundred and twenty three years ago.
1720
01:24:57.600 --> 01:24:59.359
Man Peyton was.
1721
01:24:59.359 --> 01:25:02.560
Really gallow, but on the effects of pandoram and ibers sleep,
1722
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:06.159
he hallucinated his youngest self being there probably the means
1723
01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:08.439
to cope with what he did, you know, running the
1724
01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:11.520
ship as a cruel god before he went back to sleep.
1725
01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:15.800
Man. Yeah, and that's oh, Man, so much to unpack here,
1726
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:20.479
But just briefly, I will just say that I loved
1727
01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:24.760
how this sort of unraveled and yeah, like you said,
1728
01:25:24.840 --> 01:25:28.640
just kind of like he set up this this whole
1729
01:25:28.960 --> 01:25:32.000
empire thing and then was going to go back to sleep.
1730
01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:34.880
But the fact that like it's been gone from Earth
1731
01:25:34.960 --> 01:25:35.760
for that.
1732
01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:38.279
Long, like almost a millennium.
1733
01:25:38.159 --> 01:25:42.359
Jesus wise, that's yeah, I was not expecting that at all.
1734
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:46.439
I know. That's such a mind f dude, Like yeah.
1735
01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:49.359
Yeah, yeah, cool. It's a lot like with Dark City,
1736
01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:52.680
is Dark City would would start to you know, open
1737
01:25:52.760 --> 01:25:54.680
up and develop, and then you're just like the big
1738
01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:58.119
reveal of it kind of like being in space or whatever.
1739
01:25:58.159 --> 01:25:59.680
You're like, what the fuck? Right?
1740
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:02.039
Yeah, see why I called it the Dark City.
1741
01:26:02.199 --> 01:26:03.079
Totally, totally.
1742
01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:09.800
We have a TRIVIU break coming up soon. But yeah,
1743
01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:11.399
hold on, I have a question that I just remember
1744
01:26:11.399 --> 01:26:13.960
that I needed to ask you. It's the sci fi
1745
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:14.840
fantasy thing.
1746
01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:15.119
Yeah.
1747
01:26:15.159 --> 01:26:16.680
Yeah, so we'll get there in a second. On our
1748
01:26:16.680 --> 01:26:18.359
tribute break. It just came to me though, But a
1749
01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:22.039
brief struggle would ensue where the villain tries to turn
1750
01:26:22.079 --> 01:26:24.680
our hero over to the dark side and keep ruling
1751
01:26:24.680 --> 01:26:27.520
over the damn soul still aboard this ship, but Bauer
1752
01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:30.000
isn't having any of it, and he fights back. After
1753
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:34.000
the corporal decisively wins, now he calls him over to
1754
01:26:34.079 --> 01:26:37.920
the windows, where we see something completely mind boggling deep
1755
01:26:37.960 --> 01:26:40.840
sea creatures. Oh man, Yeah, they haven't been a drift
1756
01:26:40.840 --> 01:26:42.920
in space at all. They've been at the bottom of
1757
01:26:42.960 --> 01:26:44.039
an ocean on Tannis.
1758
01:26:44.079 --> 01:26:46.800
I love this. What another great reveal.
1759
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:48.239
So cool.
1760
01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:50.920
Yeah, because at first, you know, you're like, well, okay,
1761
01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:54.000
maybe you know if you've seen Star Trek, like it's
1762
01:26:54.039 --> 01:26:56.840
possible that there would be like jellyfish in space, right.
1763
01:26:56.960 --> 01:26:59.039
Yeah, or you know they've been just drifting out there
1764
01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:01.800
for an almost little onneion who knows what aliens have
1765
01:27:02.079 --> 01:27:03.960
boarded them perhaps.
1766
01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:08.840
But then to see that no, it's the ship and
1767
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:13.840
it's underwater. Yeah, it's like, oh shit like that. That's
1768
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:15.000
a great concept.
1769
01:27:15.199 --> 01:27:15.600
I know.
1770
01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:19.680
I love that because, like, you know, it's theoretically possible
1771
01:27:19.760 --> 01:27:24.000
that it could happen here, you know, because there's pressures
1772
01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:26.000
that are so great in the ocean that we can't
1773
01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:29.079
can't get down there to see what's down there. So
1774
01:27:29.239 --> 01:27:30.840
theoretically it is possible.
1775
01:27:31.159 --> 01:27:34.720
The last phobia. Yeah, it's a real thing, fear deep sea.
1776
01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:38.239
Sure, yeah, because I mean, who knows what's down who
1777
01:27:38.239 --> 01:27:40.039
knows what's adapted to live down there?
1778
01:27:40.720 --> 01:27:42.520
I'll tell you it's good pretty much pretty much.
1779
01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:46.479
But yeah, again, so this I like how this movie
1780
01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:49.560
has like three twists like back to back pretty.
1781
01:27:49.359 --> 01:27:51.680
Much, right, Yeah, I love that, And like they've they
1782
01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:54.720
all set up so equally well and they're all delivered
1783
01:27:54.720 --> 01:27:55.039
so well.
1784
01:27:55.119 --> 01:27:56.119
Yeah, they're written well.
1785
01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:57.520
I love it.
1786
01:27:57.640 --> 01:27:57.960
Yeah.
1787
01:27:59.279 --> 01:28:01.600
But before I dive into some trivia, I wanted to
1788
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:04.359
ask you just on a little side quest here just
1789
01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:08.479
during our you know watch, I had that question I
1790
01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:10.079
wanted to pose to you. We just go on these
1791
01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:11.640
random little side quests every once in a while, and
1792
01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:13.159
I wanted to ask him this one on the air,
1793
01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:16.439
just to get his thoughts. Oh yea, So I said,
1794
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:21.800
do you think that Frank Herbert is to sci fi
1795
01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:26.479
what Tolkien is to fantasy? And if Frank Herbert isn't,
1796
01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:28.199
who would you say is? Oh?
1797
01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:32.279
Man, that's tough, because, like I mean, Tolkien is sort
1798
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:36.800
of created with, like or credited with creating sort of
1799
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:40.239
the high fantasy genre, right, because like the pulps had
1800
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:42.720
already existed for a long time, Sword and sorcery was
1801
01:28:42.760 --> 01:28:47.359
already round. And Herbert was a science fiction writer for
1802
01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:50.359
a long time and published a lot of stories and
1803
01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:53.840
novels and stuff. But later on, but when he tried
1804
01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:57.319
to get done made it, it was like really hard
1805
01:28:57.319 --> 01:28:59.279
to get it published, and the only person that would
1806
01:28:59.279 --> 01:29:03.880
publish it was Chiltern that usually made like auto repair manuals.
1807
01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:08.159
Really yeah, So it didn't get big until like way
1808
01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:13.479
later because nobody really yeah hilarious. Yeah, So then it
1809
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:16.920
became like a huge thing. But still the rights to it, no,
1810
01:29:17.159 --> 01:29:20.279
I don't think so. No, the some publisher house got
1811
01:29:20.479 --> 01:29:23.359
there's the estate has all that stuff tied up it's
1812
01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:24.680
one of those kind of things, kind of like the
1813
01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:27.600
Tolkien estate kind of thing. But got it. No, I
1814
01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:31.600
don't know, it's hard to say. Like, I mean, Herbert
1815
01:29:31.880 --> 01:29:36.079
has a major influence on science fiction in the same
1816
01:29:36.119 --> 01:29:40.039
way like also that like Asimov and those guys of
1817
01:29:40.079 --> 01:29:44.399
the sixties did, because the pulp sort of like faded
1818
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:49.279
away and sort of gave rise to the newer stuff
1819
01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:52.199
of like the sixties, like the hard science fiction type stuff,
1820
01:29:52.239 --> 01:29:54.720
and so that's where it kind of kind of drifted
1821
01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:57.119
into there. So it's like it's two different things sort of.
1822
01:29:57.199 --> 01:30:00.399
And then Star Wars comes back. Star War kind of
1823
01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.119
brings the pulps back a little bit, and Sword and
1824
01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:06.079
Sorcery kind of gets a bit of a bump up
1825
01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:08.279
at that point, so it kind of comes back, and
1826
01:30:08.319 --> 01:30:10.439
then hard science fiction comes back too.
1827
01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:14.159
So is there maybe not exactly one person that did
1828
01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:16.479
what Tolkien did for fantasy. Maybe it's a couple of
1829
01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:17.199
collective people.
1830
01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:20.560
I think it's just like with a lot of fiction
1831
01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:24.560
and stuff, I think it's just authors just constantly building
1832
01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:29.159
upon what's come before them, right, Like everybody was influenced
1833
01:30:29.159 --> 01:30:34.039
by Lovecraft, right, and then the people that were influenced
1834
01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:37.119
by that and so on and so forth. So I
1835
01:30:37.119 --> 01:30:40.840
think it's just the benefit of keeping these authors and
1836
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:44.520
creators in the public consciousness enough to get people interested
1837
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:48.279
in them or at least dive into some history about him,
1838
01:30:48.319 --> 01:30:52.640
because a lot of what we like is derived from that,
1839
01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:54.640
and in some cases that stuff's still better.
1840
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:56.159
Yeah.
1841
01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:59.079
So it's a hard question, but it's a fun one
1842
01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:01.439
to ponder. So I can't give you a direct answer,
1843
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:04.319
but I would say that the more that you start
1844
01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:08.439
to dig into a lot of these authors of uh,
1845
01:31:09.039 --> 01:31:12.399
you know, the sixties and before that, you're gonna find
1846
01:31:12.399 --> 01:31:16.800
a lot of cool stories that you know, a lot
1847
01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:19.279
of India authors have have kind of brought that back.
1848
01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:24.079
So that's it's still there. There's still an audience for it,
1849
01:31:24.199 --> 01:31:29.159
so uh, seek it out because there's something fun about
1850
01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:33.880
an escapist type story like this of you know, a
1851
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:35.920
cool action movie for like an hour and a half.
1852
01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:37.600
That's great, dude.
1853
01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:42.399
So but yeah, there's a lots of what do they say,
1854
01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:44.600
the walking on the backs of giants or something along
1855
01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:47.039
those lines, for sci fi and fantasy, and yeah, yeah,
1856
01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:49.960
you brought up a couple of good heavy hitters for it.
1857
01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:52.760
Yeah. Well, I mean, look at Brandon Sanderson, you know,
1858
01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:56.880
like that's that's a modern equivalent of any of the.
1859
01:31:56.760 --> 01:31:58.720
Greats really standing on the backs of giants. That's what
1860
01:31:58.760 --> 01:31:58.960
it was.
1861
01:31:59.079 --> 01:32:02.920
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and look at I mean, they're just
1862
01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:06.600
now i think, starting off production and some of like
1863
01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:08.800
the Cosmeer stuff, So that's going to be the next
1864
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:13.279
big cinematic adaptation is going to be like Brandon Sanderson stuff.
1865
01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:16.920
You know, I'm waiting for some Jeff Johns Geiger stuff.
1866
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:18.880
They're gonna make that into a TV show too.
1867
01:32:18.960 --> 01:32:19.960
That'd be sweet.
1868
01:32:20.239 --> 01:32:22.600
That's my next Like, I think that'll be big whenever
1869
01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:24.720
finally happens.
1870
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:29.720
Yeah. Again, like there's an audience for these things, so yeah,
1871
01:32:29.880 --> 01:32:30.920
let's let's get on it.
1872
01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:34.399
I agree. But I got some trivia, little trivia break
1873
01:32:34.399 --> 01:32:37.359
here for everybody. This is my recap of some hints
1874
01:32:37.399 --> 01:32:42.000
that I've been alluding to this whole freaking podcast. But
1875
01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:45.359
I wanted to do that now. So first, right, whenever
1876
01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:49.119
Peyton wakes up, he has noticeably less dead skin on him,
1877
01:32:49.680 --> 01:32:52.000
you know, whenever Bower wakes up, he had to like it.
1878
01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:52.840
Was like a snake skin.
1879
01:32:53.039 --> 01:32:55.600
Yeah, Like he had heaps of dead skin.
1880
01:32:56.520 --> 01:33:00.600
Makes me think of Zoidberg when Zoidberg takes his shell off.
1881
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:05.800
Gross. Yeah, it's kind of visually like lots of like bolts.
1882
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:07.000
It looks like bedskins.
1883
01:33:07.159 --> 01:33:07.359
Yeah.
1884
01:33:08.399 --> 01:33:10.520
Yeah, so he has noticeably less dead skin on him,
1885
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:13.960
unlike Bower, which suggests he hasn't been in hypersleep as long.
1886
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:18.880
And unlike Bower, he doesn't even remotely recognize the photo
1887
01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:22.279
that's supposed to be his wife in Peyton's locker, and
1888
01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:24.720
he's also did I pay attention to it a little bit,
1889
01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:26.319
but I didn't know. I didn't get to see if
1890
01:33:26.319 --> 01:33:28.199
anything became of it. But he's filling with a ring
1891
01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:30.399
a little bit, so maybe he couldn't. Didn't like fit
1892
01:33:30.479 --> 01:33:33.079
him very well, but I don't know. I didn't get
1893
01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:37.880
to completely confirm that on this watch. But next, based
1894
01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:39.800
on the tattoo on his forearm, he was part of
1895
01:33:39.800 --> 01:33:42.920
Flight Team two, not five. That comes pretty close to
1896
01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:45.439
the reveal, so not a big shock there. But then
1897
01:33:46.279 --> 01:33:50.119
once Peyton starts really slipping Gallow's name, tag reads Peyton
1898
01:33:50.319 --> 01:33:55.439
like I said, And then next Peyton puts Gallo in
1899
01:33:55.479 --> 01:33:57.439
the pot and meetes it but they can still hear
1900
01:33:57.439 --> 01:33:59.960
each other. And also, like I caught on this view,
1901
01:34:01.640 --> 01:34:04.399
Gallo was calling Peyton corporal at that point, because he's
1902
01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:07.800
Corporal Gallo of course, So I thought that one was
1903
01:34:07.840 --> 01:34:12.439
a little clever one, too nice. But you were mentioning
1904
01:34:12.479 --> 01:34:16.079
how creative the deep sea twist was. There's actually some
1905
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:19.319
trivia on how it came to be. Okay, So, an
1906
01:34:19.359 --> 01:34:25.079
interview with Moss Film in twenty sixteen, writer Travis Molloy
1907
01:34:25.199 --> 01:34:27.239
shared that he didn't know where to take the script
1908
01:34:27.279 --> 01:34:30.960
once Bauer, excuse me, once Bauer and Nadia got to
1909
01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:32.840
the bridge, so he took his dog for a walk.
1910
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And then while his dog was drinking from a puddle,
1911
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molloy was looking up at the stars and he thought
1912
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water and space are about his opposite as it gets.
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So he worked that into the shocking twist. And then yeah,
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so of course twist being that Elysium hasn't been a
1915
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drifted space actually crash landed on Tannis and it's been
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resting at the bottom of an ocean for centuries.
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Yeah, that's crazy, And that's how he got it.
1918
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This is walking his dog.
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Yeah. Well, and that's sometimes that's the benefit of like
1920
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stepping away from something, you know, if you encounter some
1921
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kind of block, you know, just disengage, just like your
1922
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:11.119
mind wander somehow and you know, get an idea.
1923
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.720
Yeah, and perfect ending, you know, perfect twists.
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Right, yeah, yeah, because not only has it been nine
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hundred and thirty two years, it's been nine hundred and
1926
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thirty two years at the bottom of the ocean of
1927
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the planet we were supposed to settle.
1928
01:35:24.560 --> 01:35:26.520
Well, subtract one hundred and twenty three years took oh
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okay effectively.
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01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:31.279
Yeah, yeah, that makes it better. Yeah right, so eight
1931
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hundred years sure.
1932
01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:37.880
Yeah, easy, easy, Yeah. Yeah, that's that's wild. That's like
1933
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how that's allowed for all the mutation and everything to
1934
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take price, for the hunters and all the ship to
1935
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go awry. And there's one quick thing I forgot to
1936
01:35:46.560 --> 01:35:51.319
highlight this, but whenever you get to the ecological development room,
1937
01:35:51.720 --> 01:35:54.399
I did mention that, like, for whatever reason, it is
1938
01:35:54.439 --> 01:35:57.000
like raining and waters pouring in through there. So it's
1939
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like you kind of think that something's just hay wire
1940
01:35:58.840 --> 01:36:00.880
with a ship, but yeah, they're free underwater and there's
1941
01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:01.640
water getting.
1942
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:03.720
Through well there. Yeah. It might have been that scene
1943
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or maybe like a different one, but it made me
1944
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think of the scene an alien where there's water dripping
1945
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down from like the cooling system or whatever, and so
1946
01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:16.159
you kind of think that too, like with it being
1947
01:36:16.319 --> 01:36:18.560
like a spaceship and you're like, oh, yeah, maybe there's
1948
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:21.880
something failure. Yeah, maybe there's like a runoff or a
1949
01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:23.840
leak or something, and that's just how it is.
1950
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Yeah, so you don't really think about it in the moment,
1951
01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:27.720
but when we go back, you're like, oh, there's so
1952
01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:29.359
much water falling through it makes sense.
1953
01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:32.199
Yeah, that's why. So that's cool.
1954
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:34.479
Yeah, so they planted a couple of seeds for you.
1955
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:38.119
Again, this is I think it's just a well written
1956
01:36:38.640 --> 01:36:41.960
idea and it just as it kind of you know,
1957
01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:44.840
it's like they had fleshed out every single detail and
1958
01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:49.239
then started with the tiniest monochrum and then just kind
1959
01:36:49.239 --> 01:36:51.840
of gave you each little breadcrumb from there until you
1960
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:55.000
had the full picture. And that's so cool.
1961
01:36:55.159 --> 01:36:57.039
The delivery of it all is a stiff kiss.
1962
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Yeah.
1963
01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:00.880
Yeah, it's one thing to have a cool mystery, but
1964
01:37:00.960 --> 01:37:04.880
like how you present it as another thing. But a
1965
01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:07.560
brief struggle would ensue where the villain Oh shoot, I
1966
01:37:07.640 --> 01:37:09.920
already read that one. Sorry, I keep picking up on
1967
01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:13.239
the wrong places. Sorry everybody, how dare you?
1968
01:37:13.479 --> 01:37:13.640
I know?
1969
01:37:13.720 --> 01:37:15.760
It's getting It's like eleven o'clock here, So I'm running
1970
01:37:15.800 --> 01:37:17.920
out of gas. But this movie's great, so trying to
1971
01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:21.840
stay focus as I can. While the heroes were distracted,
1972
01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:25.840
Peyton lands a disorienting blow on Bauer, so Nadia, who
1973
01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:29.000
is already a half health from Leland's stab, goes down
1974
01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:31.159
to one HP while fending off the mad King Yea.
1975
01:37:31.439 --> 01:37:34.800
Unfortunately for everybody, though, Bauer has started to lose his
1976
01:37:34.840 --> 01:37:37.600
own grasp on reality and he blasts at some hunters
1977
01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:41.439
that weren't even there, resulting in a window shattering, which
1978
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:44.399
saves Nadia, but it starts flooding the ship with water.
1979
01:37:44.479 --> 01:37:45.399
Yeah that's a problem.
1980
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:47.039
Yeah, that's a big problem.
1981
01:37:47.239 --> 01:37:48.159
That's a big problem.
1982
01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:51.920
On instinct, Peyton reclaims his throne, but it appears to
1983
01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:54.279
be the last thing that he'll ever do because he's
1984
01:37:54.279 --> 01:37:57.319
swept away by the water rushing in. Reacting to the
1985
01:37:57.399 --> 01:38:01.119
imminent threat, the ship's computers get ready to evacuate all
1986
01:38:01.159 --> 01:38:04.319
the pods, so with no time to spare, Bowers says
1987
01:38:04.399 --> 01:38:08.800
Nadia into his own pod before it's completely full of water.
1988
01:38:10.479 --> 01:38:13.760
As their escape vessel rockets to the surface, our hero
1989
01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:17.079
has to make another sacrifice because they're taking on a
1990
01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:19.479
lot of water, and the pods only have one or
1991
01:38:19.560 --> 01:38:21.720
only designed for one person, so they only have one
1992
01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:26.399
oxygen mask. The heroic Corporal, of course, gives the mask
1993
01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:30.159
to Nadia, and after what seems like an eternity, they
1994
01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:33.479
reach the surface, where drum roll for a dramatic effect.
1995
01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:37.760
They both survived, along with the twelve hundred or so
1996
01:38:37.920 --> 01:38:40.119
other people that were left aboard the elysium.
1997
01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:43.319
Yeah, they're all just popping up in the water now.
1998
01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:48.199
Yeah, And here's the tie little bow on everything, and
1999
01:38:48.399 --> 01:38:50.640
you know, now, my friends, Our story ends where it
2000
01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:55.319
began in Bower's pod, but instead of the terrifying isolation
2001
01:38:55.399 --> 01:38:58.439
that he felt the first time, our hero finds companionship,
2002
01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:01.720
a new world teeming with life and a promising.
2003
01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:07.199
Future in a dollar general a mile away. There, it's
2004
01:39:07.239 --> 01:39:07.840
already there.
2005
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:10.680
Yeah, son of a bitch, Yep.
2006
01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:13.159
He can. He can just barely make out in the
2007
01:39:13.199 --> 01:39:18.359
distance the giant sign that reads Menard, and as he
2008
01:39:18.399 --> 01:39:22.800
gets closer, another sign is revealed Ald.
2009
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:27.039
Then in the distance there's already a closed kmart. What
2010
01:39:27.119 --> 01:39:28.960
the fuck, right, man?
2011
01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:33.640
How old? How old is this place? Yeah? No, it's uh,
2012
01:39:34.960 --> 01:39:37.359
I like the ending of this film with it ejecting
2013
01:39:37.359 --> 01:39:40.920
the pods. That's cool. It makes me kind of think
2014
01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:44.000
of in uh, Star Trek First Contact. I think it
2015
01:39:44.079 --> 01:39:45.079
was like they're to make.
2016
01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:46.239
You put a quarter in the jar if you say
2017
01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:49.600
Star Trek again. Yeah, added up.
2018
01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:52.479
But there's a part where they eject all the all
2019
01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:55.680
the escape pods in that movie. But then I don't
2020
01:39:55.720 --> 01:39:58.880
think they ever address like the fact that they may
2021
01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:01.039
have brought those people back or not.
2022
01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:03.399
A few errant pods maybe out there, so.
2023
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:06.000
They might have. They might have just time traveled back
2024
01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:08.760
in time and ejected a bunch of escape pods and
2025
01:40:08.800 --> 01:40:10.399
then just went back to their own time.
2026
01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:12.399
That's your own fucking problem. Yeah.
2027
01:40:12.720 --> 01:40:16.199
So, uh, there's some weird shit that could happen there, but.
2028
01:40:16.479 --> 01:40:19.199
That's a yikes, it is a big yeah.
2029
01:40:19.359 --> 01:40:22.079
So yeah, I like how now it just kind of
2030
01:40:22.079 --> 01:40:25.000
starts fresh now, like it's up to the rest of
2031
01:40:25.039 --> 01:40:30.039
these people to uh, you know, start a new civilization,
2032
01:40:30.199 --> 01:40:30.760
keep it going.
2033
01:40:31.119 --> 01:40:31.840
Do you want to know?
2034
01:40:32.279 --> 01:40:34.359
This is where I would love to know, like that
2035
01:40:34.439 --> 01:40:37.359
there were more things planned. Yes, there's a ton of
2036
01:40:37.399 --> 01:40:40.520
storyline potential here. Okay, hit me with it.
2037
01:40:40.760 --> 01:40:43.000
Yeah, let me, let's let's go through it. My my
2038
01:40:43.079 --> 01:40:47.720
last trivia break for everybody here. So on Moss Film,
2039
01:40:47.760 --> 01:40:49.600
there's more on that. This is all sorts from that
2040
01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:52.800
interview on Moss Film, like I talked about earlier, but
2041
01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:57.159
they discussed those potential sequels, so I want to share
2042
01:40:57.199 --> 01:41:01.720
them here. A prequel was considered, which would cover the
2043
01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:04.960
fall of Earth and the events leading up to Elysium launching.
2044
01:41:05.079 --> 01:41:07.680
I don't need that, yeah, but way more interestingly, this
2045
01:41:08.279 --> 01:41:10.000
is what I said to you, Like, way more interestingly,
2046
01:41:10.399 --> 01:41:12.760
the conclusion of the trilogy would have been a direct
2047
01:41:12.800 --> 01:41:16.239
sequel to this first movie, where the brave survivors of
2048
01:41:16.279 --> 01:41:20.920
their new world they would have found warring tribes that
2049
01:41:21.039 --> 01:41:23.920
turned out to be descendants from the Elysium from over
2050
01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:27.359
seven hundred years ago that had spiritual differences as a
2051
01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:30.840
result of Peyton's twisted rain as King aboard the Elysium.
2052
01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:34.359
Yeah, now that's a that's an interesting storyline, right there.
2053
01:41:34.239 --> 01:41:37.199
Isn't it. Yeah, that would have been so sick.
2054
01:41:37.319 --> 01:41:39.479
That should have been the second movie and then do
2055
01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:41.159
the prequel as a third movie.
2056
01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:43.000
Now, I don't even think you need that prequel movie, Like,
2057
01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:44.760
I don't think anything interested in it.
2058
01:41:44.840 --> 01:41:47.439
Yeah you could cut it, but like, don't put it
2059
01:41:47.479 --> 01:41:50.000
as the second movie. Because I want to know what
2060
01:41:50.079 --> 01:41:51.319
happens after.
2061
01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:54.359
This absolutely, like you'd like that people could like not
2062
01:41:54.520 --> 01:41:56.319
have anything to do with a lisium, but this next
2063
01:41:56.439 --> 01:42:01.039
that warring tribe from Peyton's reign, Like that would been sick.
2064
01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:03.000
And that would have been that would have been cool.
2065
01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:05.279
And that's the thing that we didn't get really with
2066
01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:11.439
Prometheus and Alien Covenant is like that next cheat because
2067
01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:17.239
Prometheus ended with an interesting story potential, but then by
2068
01:42:17.279 --> 01:42:19.239
the time we got to Alien Covenant, like.
2069
01:42:19.960 --> 01:42:21.920
It's basically the beginning of where this one is, like
2070
01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:24.079
that sellership on the DNA that he has to work
2071
01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:26.159
with that they never do anything. Yeah, they never taken
2072
01:42:26.199 --> 01:42:26.920
address any.
2073
01:42:26.760 --> 01:42:29.800
Of that, and that would would have been cool, right, Yeah, And.
2074
01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:32.960
It could have been something like this. M m yeh man,
2075
01:42:33.039 --> 01:42:35.079
I was sot have loved that sequel.
2076
01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:38.720
Well, I mean again, if if we could drum up
2077
01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:41.760
some support for a movie like this to bring it
2078
01:42:41.800 --> 01:42:45.039
back into the public consciousness, if somebody was able to
2079
01:42:45.159 --> 01:42:48.560
just do the sequel literally and you could do it
2080
01:42:48.600 --> 01:42:51.680
in a way that it would be accessible to people
2081
01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:52.880
that haven't seen this film.
2082
01:42:52.920 --> 01:42:56.239
Make it a Netflix movie, yeah.
2083
01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:59.479
Get somebody to finance it. Make a solid film you've
2084
01:42:59.479 --> 01:43:01.279
got the script already. It's kind of like how they
2085
01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:04.920
keep making Riddic films every now and then, like I'll
2086
01:43:04.960 --> 01:43:07.840
show up for a Ritick film. They're great, but I
2087
01:43:08.920 --> 01:43:12.000
wish that they were more like Chronicles of Ritick now
2088
01:43:12.119 --> 01:43:14.319
because that that one was the one that opened up
2089
01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:16.880
all the world building potential, right, and then they just
2090
01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:19.760
went back and made remade Pitch Black like twice.
2091
01:43:19.920 --> 01:43:26.279
Yeah, which is fine, like with yeah Ritick, Yeah, but like.
2092
01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:29.199
Develop the world more. Let's see some more stuff.
2093
01:43:29.039 --> 01:43:31.159
Right, I want to see like the Galactic Empire and
2094
01:43:31.239 --> 01:43:33.600
like the refugee hideouts and stuff. Yeah, give me more
2095
01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:34.800
of that world building.
2096
01:43:34.960 --> 01:43:38.399
Yeah, so yeah, I'd be here for it. So yeah,
2097
01:43:38.479 --> 01:43:42.479
if if somebody would to make a Pandorm sequel and
2098
01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:45.359
give some money to these people, like absolutely, please do it.
2099
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:50.119
Right, you heard her her first, Please do So that's
2100
01:43:50.199 --> 01:43:54.359
all I got on the movie, though, thoughts we think
2101
01:43:54.399 --> 01:43:54.840
about it.
2102
01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:57.479
I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the hell out of it.
2103
01:43:57.520 --> 01:44:01.319
I definitely hadn't seen it before. You can definitely tell
2104
01:44:01.399 --> 01:44:05.319
it's a two thousands movie because sometimes like they go
2105
01:44:05.399 --> 01:44:07.920
a little crazy with the color, you know, like some
2106
01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:11.720
scenes like it's there's like red, the red filter, the
2107
01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:14.640
blue filter, and it's Paul W. S Anderson right, So
2108
01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:18.279
it's not that surprising, but it's got its own kind
2109
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:21.279
of charm to it. But also too, like it's just
2110
01:44:21.800 --> 01:44:25.600
I miss being able to like and hopefully this is
2111
01:44:25.600 --> 01:44:28.079
a trend that continues at some point now with getting
2112
01:44:28.079 --> 01:44:30.079
some more original stuff out, but I miss being able
2113
01:44:30.119 --> 01:44:34.520
to just discover a movie like this. It's just a solid,
2114
01:44:36.079 --> 01:44:38.399
you know, one shot kind of story with some potential
2115
01:44:38.439 --> 01:44:41.279
for sequels, not tied to any existing IP, but just
2116
01:44:41.319 --> 01:44:44.720
an original, original story, like I'm here for it. This
2117
01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:45.680
is cool.
2118
01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:50.159
Well, I guess if it makes you feel any better,
2119
01:44:50.239 --> 01:44:52.159
maybe maybe it makes you feel worse in a different
2120
01:44:52.239 --> 01:44:55.079
kind of way. But this is kind of a feeling
2121
01:44:55.079 --> 01:44:57.640
that I get all the damn time whenever you show
2122
01:44:57.720 --> 01:45:01.279
me stuff because you have such a apprehensive knowledge on things.
2123
01:45:01.520 --> 01:45:03.640
There's a lot of stuff that a lot of stones
2124
01:45:03.640 --> 01:45:06.720
you've already uncovered, where I get this feeling all the
2125
01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:09.000
time whenever we're doing this for you. Yes, so it's
2126
01:45:09.079 --> 01:45:10.960
not quite as novel for I guess it may be
2127
01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:12.279
more novel for you than it is for me.
2128
01:45:12.439 --> 01:45:14.560
But no, that's the fun of this too, though, because
2129
01:45:15.359 --> 01:45:17.439
like some of the later stuff, in the later two
2130
01:45:17.479 --> 01:45:21.000
thousands of the stuff, like I just I either missed
2131
01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:23.239
it or it just didn't get around to it, you know.
2132
01:45:23.359 --> 01:45:25.399
Like I said, I do remember seeing the poster and
2133
01:45:25.439 --> 01:45:27.880
stuff for this, but just and I'm sure it was
2134
01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:30.079
recommended to me at the time, I just don't think
2135
01:45:30.119 --> 01:45:30.720
I ever saw it.
2136
01:45:31.159 --> 01:45:34.239
Yeah, some of the stuff, like it almost looks like
2137
01:45:34.279 --> 01:45:36.279
a dime a dozen, you know, from the cover. But
2138
01:45:36.600 --> 01:45:38.800
you know, once you like take a chance on it's
2139
01:45:39.479 --> 01:45:40.119
to unpack here.
2140
01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:43.439
Yeah, And like you know, the the production design is
2141
01:45:43.479 --> 01:45:46.520
pretty good, like wherever they're filming.
2142
01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:47.560
It in Germany.
2143
01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:51.039
Yeah, you get the idea that it can be a spaceship.
2144
01:45:51.479 --> 01:45:53.119
It was. It was like an old factory in Germany
2145
01:45:53.119 --> 01:45:54.840
that they're purpose for the set.
2146
01:45:55.000 --> 01:46:00.079
That's cool. Yeah. And even the digital effects here they
2147
01:46:00.119 --> 01:46:02.600
don't look too bad for two thousand and nine, Like.
2148
01:46:04.279 --> 01:46:06.039
Practical stuff was great, I would yeah.
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Yeah, I think it's held up pretty well. It feels
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pretty modern still, I would say, But I yeah, I
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enjoyed the hell out of it. Like I would watch
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this movie again for sure, because it's just now that
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I know what I know, I want to go back
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and see how it plays. I say it just it's
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one that I want to explore a little bit more
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because it's just such a cool concept.
2157
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Yeah, I would very much like to get your thoughts
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on a second lap, because I thought I was really
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comprehensive whenever I was doing this, you know, really ego eyed.
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But there was things that I caught on this viewing
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that I didn't on any of my other previous viewing.
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So I wonder if there's even more things that you
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would notice that I have still missed.
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01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:52.279
Yeah, they could be Yeah, No, it was good.
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Yeah, I think we're both at this point on buy
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for this movie.
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Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah. I think this is like you said,
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it was probably one of the first big blu rays,
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So I'm thinking that this one's probably pretty common if
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you if you find a lot of uh, you know,
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used movies somewhere like you're, probably the odds of finding
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01:47:14.479 --> 01:47:16.520
a copy of PANDORAM is probably pretty good.
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Yeah, I'm not gonna be hard to find this.
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So I would say definitely pick it up if you
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if you were into space horror films and stuff like that.
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It's I thought it was a pretty solid film, so.
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01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:28.640
Oh yeah, dude, Well, I'm glad you liked it.
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Yeah, thanks for showing it to me. Yeah, this is
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01:47:30.279 --> 01:47:30.680
right up my.
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Alley, of course. But yeah, I don't think I have
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01:47:34.159 --> 01:47:38.479
any other thoughts on that. I guess quick little message,
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since we always time travel and we record early and
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01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:43.439
you guys hear it later, I want to say happy
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01:47:43.439 --> 01:47:44.880
birthday to you in the future, my friend.
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01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:47.680
Ah, thank you so much. Yeah, it has happened or
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01:47:47.760 --> 01:47:51.199
will happen soon, depending on when this episode comes up exactly.
2187
01:47:51.279 --> 01:47:53.840
This is the one around your birthday. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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little party popper noise.
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Yeah, I don't have a sounder ready, but I.
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01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:01.000
Think we did pretty good. I think we nailed it.
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01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:03.560
Yeah, no, thank you, thank you so much. So yeah,
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good good stuff. So absolutely yeah, we'll probably I don't know,
2193
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take a week or so off and come back at
2194
01:48:10.359 --> 01:48:12.359
some point with a show. I got to figure out
2195
01:48:12.359 --> 01:48:13.319
what I'm gonna do next.
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01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:17.520
So yes, I think an idea that we tossed around
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a little bit that I think would be fun to
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01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:21.039
revisit soon is like, got to pick a movie that
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01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:23.359
you think the other person would have been interested in, Like,
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01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:25.760
I want to pick a movie that I think you're
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an expert in but not tell you what it is,
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01:48:27.680 --> 01:48:29.319
so give you some to fly.
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01:48:30.399 --> 01:48:34.319
Something like that, all right, stuf interesting, Yeah, we'll try that.
2204
01:48:34.479 --> 01:48:36.039
Well you don't have to do for this pick, but
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01:48:36.079 --> 01:48:38.119
that's something we'll try some stuff you're in towards.
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01:48:38.199 --> 01:48:38.880
You know, you just go.
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01:48:38.960 --> 01:48:41.199
I like to roll the dice on our picks here
2208
01:48:41.239 --> 01:48:42.039
every once in a while.
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01:48:42.880 --> 01:48:48.239
Yeah, yeah, so stay tuned. Yeah, Generation Video Podcast. You
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01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:51.680
know we're we're out there on the internet. Generation Video yeahoo,
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01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:55.199
dot Com, Facebook X, all that stuff, you know, the
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01:48:55.680 --> 01:48:58.239
usual stuff that everybody's been doing since two thousand and six.
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01:48:58.399 --> 01:49:02.600
So exactly up by say what up? And let scroll
2214
01:49:02.600 --> 01:49:04.439
through the library. We have like a ton of episodes
2215
01:49:04.439 --> 01:49:06.279
at this point, so I'm sure we have a movie
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01:49:06.319 --> 01:49:06.680
you love.
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01:49:07.159 --> 01:49:12.079
Oh yeah, yeah, the Shooto coastco Trial movies continue to
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01:49:12.079 --> 01:49:15.920
be highly downloaded episodes, which is fun. That's I really
2219
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:19.640
enjoyed doing those. Yeah, it's fun to again, it's fun
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01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:23.720
to spotlight these movies that kind of gotten lost in
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01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:26.399
the shuffle. And I would put PANDORAM on this list
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01:49:26.479 --> 01:49:30.840
for sure as far as a recommendation and keep that,
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01:49:31.399 --> 01:49:35.039
keep that going because it's still an enjoyable film. Yep.
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01:49:35.319 --> 01:49:37.319
And I think it's a part of the curse of
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01:49:37.399 --> 01:49:39.359
pandoram Like, once you've seen it, like you have a
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01:49:39.439 --> 01:49:42.000
duty to at least tell one other person about it. So,
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01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:42.800
which is good.
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01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:46.079
I mean, yeah, and that's that's the point of like
2229
01:49:46.159 --> 01:49:50.520
podcasts sometimes is to you know, take some time and
2230
01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:53.159
just draw attention to something like this and really just
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01:49:53.199 --> 01:49:54.159
deep dive into it.
2232
01:49:54.560 --> 01:49:55.960
Right, we love it, and we love it for a
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01:49:55.960 --> 01:49:57.439
reason and you probably will too.
2234
01:49:57.560 --> 01:50:02.199
Yeah, so check it out. So U next time you know,
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01:50:02.439 --> 01:50:04.680
I've been west and I'm the other guy, You're the
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01:50:04.720 --> 01:50:09.119
other guy, Brett, I think with an H B h
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01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:13.359
R E T T. So uh yeah, So be kind,
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rewind peace.
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Mm hmmm mm hm.
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H m hm.
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Hm.
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Ocean madness.
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It's a suppository