DCA 319- Lanterns Episode 2 Review

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Hello and welcome to Chapter 319 of the DC Alliance Podcast.
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With me, as always, is Joe. Joe, how are you
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doing today?
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Not too shabby. Busy. It's very nice and... I mean,
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it's cooling down here in the Midwest, which is nice.
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But we've opened up all of our... turned the AC off,
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opened up the windows for a little bit. I know
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it's supposed to get a little warmer toward the end
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of the week. But Fall is coming, so it's getting
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to that festival season, which is so much fun. I
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look forward to that.
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Yeah, today's been a muggy day, so I'm kind of
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looking forward to the fall myself, to be honest with you.
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But really excited because we're just here to talk about
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Lanterns this week. There was some hubbub about Batman Breaking
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the Bald and what it's starting in that, but until
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that merger goes through, I'm just going to put a
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pin on anything in development unless we hear like they're
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actually starting shooting. So there's a lot of rumors and stuff.
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So instead there hasn't been any news. We're just going
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to do the lantern review and then going forward, we'll
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on Wednesday. So before we get into the lanterns episode
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good thing. Okay, Joe. We have another episode of Lanterns,
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and I enjoyed this one even more than the first one.
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Yeah, I definitely like this one a little bit better
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than the last one.
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We got some lore here. We got some more to
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the mystery. I have some thoughts on potentially who some
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of these characters could be.
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Yeah, I got a chance to actually watch Heavy Spoilers
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this week, and he... Oh, wow, I forgot his name.
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It's not Ryan.
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Paul.
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Thank you, Paul. Ryan's over on the other side.
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Screen Crush.
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Screen Crush. Yeah, Paul definitely... gave a lot of thoughts. Um,
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I know I've been seeing some theories going around on
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some other stuff. So a lot of people are, are
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liking the show. A lot of people are digging the show.
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A lot of people are having thoughts about the show
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two episodes in and people, people are, are, are really
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throwing ideas at the wall. I mean, a lot of
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it is what's going to stick, but you know, we'll
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see what we'll see what happens.
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There's this dude I follow on Twitter, and I can't
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remember his name now, to throw in some cool theories
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and analysis on some of this stuff. And I can't
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remember his name now. Next time, I'll write it down
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for the next episode. It's pretty cool, I must say.
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I'll give that a tweet. I really love the show, Joters.
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We'll get into it.
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It's a lot better than the one I've been seeing
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on Facebook, where the guy's just like, oh, this Landis
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has been blah, blah, blah. And they're not treating Hal
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like right. I'm like, what the hell are you talking about, dude?
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Shut up.
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It's been awesome.
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Like, it's two episodes. Calm down.
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It's also been awesome, and they haven't really used that
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many constructs yet, and I still love it, so..
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That's one of the complaints. Like, they're not treating him right,
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and this and this and that. Dude, shut up.
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It's not Hal Jordan of year one. Like, calm down.
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But it's also..
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It's not... It's an adaptation. Like, if you want the
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actual thing... If you want the actual, like, comic book,
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go read the comic book. That's what they're there for.
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These are not your comic books. This is not the movie.
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If you want..
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Constructs Constantly, go watch the Ryan Reynolds movie that.
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Nobody apparently liked.
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I mean, I enjoyed it, but..
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I did enjoy it, it's just..
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It's not with a... It could have been better.
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It could have been better. It had potential. It was
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really tough.
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It had potential.
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Yeah, yeah. They shouldn't even have had him as the villain.
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He should have been the next maybe villain, but we're
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going off track here.
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Yeah, no, no, no.
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Let's jump into... Let's rip off the spoiler warning and
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jump into the episode here. as we started in 2016, again,
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when we saw this in trailer before, uh, hell throws
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water on John and wants to teach him how to fly. Uh,
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what'd you think about this Joe, where he tries to
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learn how to fly?
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Yeah, that was, uh, that was kind of funny.
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When he ends up creating a bird, uh, hell had
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a ticket for an online to go back to coast
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city to get his power ring. This is only a 5%. And, uh,
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I love it. John's like, what would you do if
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I flew? He will like, you would have had to
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go anyway. essentially, and he's off to go get the battery,
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which I do love that little side mission for him here.
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And I wasn't expecting what happened to happen.
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It's also because currently Hal cannot leave town. He's still under,
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I was going to say house arrest, but he's still
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supposed to, you know, he's the judge that he can't
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leave town. So he couldn't go get his lantern. So
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John had to be the one to go get it.
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Yep, and while John goes to get that, Hal is
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going to do some detective work. I love how he
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flies up to try to survey the town, and then
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the ring runs out of charge, and he just smacks
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right down on the ground.
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Right, that was funny. But what you're kind of overlooking here, though,
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is John, you know, he tries to fly, he creates
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that bird, and they're both, like, kind of impressed at
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the bird, but John gives the ring back to Hal,
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and the bird's still there.
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Yep, and Hal's kind of, like, Confused by that.
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So is John. John's like, what the heck? What's going
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on here? And then Hal gives him this task of like, alright, well,
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here's your assignment. Here's your mission. Get to California and
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back and keep that bird alive. Keep that bird... Your
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constructs are based on willpower and concentration. And if you
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lose concentration, that bird's going to go away. So keep
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your concentration. So you've got to keep that bird alive.
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Which makes what he does throughout the trip even more impressive,
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to be honest with you.
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We'll talk about why at the end.
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Yeah, when we get there. Then while he's gone, before
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we catch back up with John, Hal's going to do
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some detective work. And he goes essentially and gets the
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aliens first, right? No.
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He goes back to the football field and he's looking around.
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He's trying to figure out... Looking around, seeing what's what.
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And he spots the metal detectors. And he's walking through it.
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Doesn't ding. He rips the grill off the car.
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The front of the car. The rental car that John got.
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Walks through the metal detector. Doesn't go off again. He's
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just like, huh. That's weird.
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And then he gets a little thought in his head.
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Although, if I'm being honest, and I know this is 2016,
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but if I'm being honest, I was working at a
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truck plant, but I was working at a you know
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vehicle plant and uh those were not metal at least
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the ones we put on trucks were not metal those
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those grills so uh pretty sure that wasn't metal either
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but that's just.
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Yeah yeah i don't think there was many part metal
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parts on that a lot of plastic.
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I think yeah that's all i'm saying anyway.
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But yeah he should have took the whole bumper so.
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The bumper would have been yeah the bumper would have
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been metal.
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Yeah maybe it would have been some metal there so
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but harder to take it off when you don't have
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your ring, I guess. Right.
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No, he would have had the ring by then. No,
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he still had the ring power.
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I thought it was.
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He didn't lose the ring power just yet. Cause he,
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he had the ring cause right there.
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Oh, after that. Yeah.
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After that, he's searching for the sheriff. He can't find them.
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And that's when he flies up, looks around, sees all
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the cars at the, uh, Legion, the Legion.
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Yeah.
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And he's like, huh, okay, there they are. And then
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he loses the power and falls flat on his face.
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Yeah. And then he, that's when he goes in to
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see them chatting, right? Does he take the aliens? He
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takes the aliens after them.
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No, he sees them talking because he wants to actually
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get the sheriff's, I would assume, approval.
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Yeah. Or give her a heads up of what she's doing.
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Yeah, maybe a heads up. And I do love this.
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She's giving the, sorry, the Spider- crawling a giant spider
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crawling on the spider web over there um giving she's
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giving a speech they're basically talking about the town and
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like oh there was this this big atrocity just happened
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and they're like do we want to continue the game
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have the next game and they do they're going to
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but Hal is just like, he's kind of whispering to
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Billy because he shows up and is talking to Hal.
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Well, he comes and tells him that the charge has
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been dropped and he can go out and wherever he
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wants to go now.
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And I love it because they're whispering to each other
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and Kate is just like, or Kate?
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Yeah. Carrie.
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Carrie. Thank you. Because I kept saying Cain. I'm like,
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that's not right. She's like, hey, I understand you guys
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are talking. If you're going to talk, get out of here.
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Well, she says honey first and both of them say yeah.
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And she's like, my husband. And he's like, yeah, of course.
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That makes more sense. And yeah, he doesn't get her
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approval at all, Joe.
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Well, that's when he gets the phone call from John.
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Yeah. So John, he goes out and John's looking for
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a way to get in.
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I do have a question, though. Like, how is it–
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how could John– get the bird on the plane.
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I say he put it in his pocket because we
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see at one point where he has it low and
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he opens it up again.
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Okay.
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I think he just put it in his pocket. Okay.
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Yeah.
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We don't see it. I thought about that too, Joe,
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like after like how to get it on the plane.
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We don't see him. This is post 9-11. I'm just saying.
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Yeah. Well, maybe, maybe the bird just stayed on the
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plane as a construct on the wing or something. I mean, maybe,
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but again, wouldn't cool to see that, but we did not, uh,
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at all here so yeah he goes he's at John's
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house which is unbelievable John's house which is unbelievable yes
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it's amazing and he finds the key outside in rock
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after speaking to Hal and goes in and Hal explains
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to him that he got the house by saving some
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rich rich guy's son and he gave him the house
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so he took that and there's pictures in the house
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it looks like Hal's never barely sleeps there like there's
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no furniture and I.
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Think he said he's there one day a week or
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something like that. There's a bed and pictures of him.
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With famous people like Pope, Harry Potter crew.
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Yeah, President Obama. But that's really it. He doesn't really have... Oh,
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and his... He's a pet plant.
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So it's pretty basic there, except he has his lantern
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there as well. So that's... Essentially, what John has to
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go through, he asks him if he wants to bring
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the suit. He has three suits in there. And he says, no,
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not unless you can show me how to pee in
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one of those. Yeah. He takes it anyway, which I
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do love that. And I love when he puts it
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up against him. But he really wants to wear that
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suit so bad. Yeah. It's awesome. So yeah, he reaches
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into the box. I love the password. It's Mogo. Was
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it Mogo is unsocial?
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Mogo doesn't socialize.
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Mogo doesn't socialize, which is the name of the comic.
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Yeah, apparently it's the title of a comic, which I
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believe is the comic that Jon Stewart..
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It's first introduction, I think, or first becomes a lantern.
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It's either when he first becomes a lantern or when
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he first reveals himself as a lantern to... Earth.
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Yeah, something like that. It was one of those two things.
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I can't remember now because I did listen to the
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same thing you did. So yeah, he... The bird goes
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in too. I love how that little thing of the
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bird going in. He reaches in and gets the lantern
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and he's very careful with the lantern as well. Because
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he respects it.
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He respects the title of the lantern. He respects everything
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the lantern stands for. More than Hal does apparently.
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Oh, for sure. And this lantern looks beautiful, too. I
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love how the lantern looks and the ring looks, to
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be honest with you. Yeah. I'm a fan of both
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of the designs of those things. Before we go any further, Joe,
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let's take our first outbreak of the evening. Let's run
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an ad support network. We're going to pick the ads.
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We're going to do a quick three-click to adjust your volume,
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and we'll be right back in three, two, one. And
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we're back. Okay, Joe. John has to do one more
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task before getting out of there, and like you alluded
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to before, it's feeding Earl. What'd you think about this
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little bit of fun thrown in here?
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Yeah, it was just kind of fun. I didn't even...
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wasn't even expecting that.
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I thought it was hilarious that you haven't seen any
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pictures of Hal and any of his family, and there's
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just one thing in there which is a plant. Like,
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an alien plant.
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And I'm curious, how often does he feed Earl? Like,
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how often does Earl actually have to eat? Because... Hal
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sometimes has gone off planet weeks at a time.
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Yeah.
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So does he have somebody that feeds Earl on a
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regular basis?
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I assume so, where he's such a celebrity.
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So then why is John having to go feed him then?
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I don't know. Maybe he's a paying service and he
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hasn't paid. I don't know. That's a good question.
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It's an interesting thought.
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Maybe we'll get some more. Maybe we'll see John feed
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it in 2025. And he owns it now.
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I mean, it's possible.
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Yeah.
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Very possible.
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And people are even living at Hal's house.
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I mean, that's, that I could see possible. Like, it's
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not like Hal's using it.
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No. And so, yeah, after that, you flash to Hal
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Jordan again and taking those aliens and bringing them in
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and ruining the car, the rental car in John's name.
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I find it funny that he grabs all four of them.
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He only needed one.
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He only needed one.
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But he grabs all four.
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Yeah. And brings them in. And one of them makes
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sounds when he puts them through. So he realizes that
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it's a technology that can scan and detect aliens.
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It's an alien detector. Yeah. It's not a metal detector.
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It's an alien detector.
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And he hasn't seen this kind of technology anywhere in
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the galaxy. He says that later.
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The other thing is, it's not just at the stadium.
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It is also, where else was it at?
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The Legion, I think.
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The Legion.
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Yeah.
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It was either at the Legion or it was at
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the police station. It was somewhere else. Somewhere he walked
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through as well. And he saw it, the metal detectors
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as well.
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I think it was the first, I think it was
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the police station where they brought the, when they were
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dealing with him.
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So, they're around town. Mm-hmm.
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So he knows that now. That's the thing that he knows.
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So he goes then to, we flashback to Jon Stewart again.
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And when he's leaving the house, he gets abducted. And
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then he breaks out of the van. This is pretty badass.
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And he runs just like Tom Cruise. That's the first
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thing I thought when he watched the run all the time.
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But yeah, this was a good little action scene. And
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ultimately he gets taken out in a van. That hurt, man. Yeah,
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it looked like it hurt. He didn't have that much
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damage on him when we seen him.
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No, but still, though, you're running against traffic, and that
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van was probably going. I mean, it's a highway, so
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it's going 60 miles per hour, and it swerved to
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miss him. I think it full-bore him to the side
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of the van. He definitely got it.
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And you could tell from even the start of the
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fight in the van, that this guy was an alien
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from his way. He throws John up with one hand
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right up into the thing. You can tell already that.
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And then when he's chasing and how quickly, Oh yeah,
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he was fast. You can understand, you can put that
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together just from those visuals before you even get the
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interrogation in a little bit. So, uh, but they flash
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back to, uh, hell again, who the sheriff came, pulls
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them over and sees all the bodies. And he's like,
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In my defense, I wanted to tell you about that,
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but you wouldn't talk to me at all. And he's like,
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I'm going to talk to William there, essentially. And she
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basically let me go and do all the talking.
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She reveals that she knew about the alien detectors.
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Yeah.
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So it's one of those things where anything that Hal
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finds out, Hal or John, it seems like, She already knows.
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Or any one piece of person in town knows, to
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be honest with you.
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Well, yes, but obviously there's going to be multiple people
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that know. She obviously knows because she is the sheriff,
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but also she is the daughter-in-law of Will Makin.
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Yeah.
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Who is kind of, I'm not going to say running
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the town, but he has... good authority in the town.
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She mentions that people, a lot of people think that
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he runs the town, right?
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He, he's got the higher authority at the moment. And
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so she's trying to keep the town in check, but
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he is, he's got people around that apparently is, or
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high has enough authority to get his way. And she
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knows what he's doing. She knows about everything. And she
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is one step ahead of these guys, of Hal and John,
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which is not a good thing for them. But at
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the same time, like, she's got the information she needs.
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And she's trying to do the best she can, you know?
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Well, she reveals later she's mainly trying to make sure
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the town doesn't go into mass hysteria about an alien
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invasion like William's been preparing for and basically cede power
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to the town to William. It's essentially what she's trying
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to make sure. And having the green lanterns there only
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drums out fear that somebody is going to, like another
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alien is going to show up. And there's already been
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several aliens that have died already. So, yeah, that's basically
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what she's trying to stop. She brings him to the
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ranch and he chats with William again for a little bit.
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And this is more of a hostile chat than the other. one.
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Yeah, before when William was all friendly, hey, thanks for coming.
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I want to basically hire you to take out aliens
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because I think they're going to come to this planet
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and be hostile. But you've basically made it to where
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you're not going to be working with me. So I
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don't want you here.
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Well, he basically says, like, Hal basically says, so I
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took care of that problem for you, and now you
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need me to, like, I can go. And he's like,
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that's essentially what your son said to me, too, when
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he says it to him. Yeah. And, yeah, he's not
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going to do it, and he whacks, takes a couple steps,
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and he kind of bluffs, because there's a sniper there.
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He kind of bluffs, but there's no charge in the ring.
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So he takes a couple steps, and a la Texas,
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he gets, but obviously it's Nebraska.
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Bullets to the shoulder.
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Bullet right to his shoulder, super awesome sniper shot, and bam.
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he is out, and we flashed to John, who is
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captured by Antan, is the guy's name, and the men,
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there's five people with him, which is one thing to note,
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because in the Red Lanterns, which is who people think
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this person is, and I can see it from the
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way he talked, and if that guy, that other guy
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was one of his men, the one who exploded, he
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talked about vengeance, so, and they mentioned too in the
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last episode that 14 species can take the form of humans.
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This probably is 15th. Like, there could be another, like,
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that's why I thought they mentioned that before, that this
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will be a new species that can take the form
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of humans. So, yeah. And everything he lays out here, Joe,
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is pretty standard Red Lanterns.
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Right. Yeah, especially when he brings up the Manhunters, and
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he's telling, he asks John, like, what do you know
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about Manhunters? And John's like, I have no idea what
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you're talking about.
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Yeah, and you can almost see it on his face, too,
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that he doesn't really know. He says, like, you really don't,
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from your proximity to Hell, Jordan? And that's the word that..
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That's what triggers him.
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He usually says, closeness, or something like that.
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So he's like, yeah, you're an alien. Okay, cool. And
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Tan's just like, all right, yeah, so you... What we
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mean by Manhunters is they're killers. Like, they went and
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eradicated species, and we... the collective we have here, we're
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all that remains of our respective species.
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Yeah, and most of them from, I think, section 666,
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if I'm not mistaken.
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Well, that is in the comics. They don't say what sector..
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No, I just meant like in the comics.
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In the comics, that was in the post-Infinity Crisis comics.
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Earlier on, it was... different but yeah they.
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Were robots that had guns and stuff and like they
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i remember the old comics.
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Yeah they were the i mean the first they were
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the first guardian force yeah so uh they didn't work
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out well one of the guardians kind of said no
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we're gonna.
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Change the programming or something and then one of the
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guardians changed programming on that mistake.
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Yeah they basically something happened they started to said they
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need to eradicate all of mankind and And the Guardians
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were like, okay, nope, that's bad. We shouldn't do this.
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And so they kind of wiped them out. And that's
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when they came up with the Green Lanterns.
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Yeah.
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I know there was a... Was it Legends? No, it
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wasn't Legends. What was after Legends? There's a story, a
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Justice League story, or a crossover story in the 90s,
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early 90s, that was Manhunter-centric. That kind of dealt with
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Manhunter's coming in and taking over... God, what was it called?
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I have it over there somewhere.
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Okay, I'll tell you. And there was a Justice League,
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the animated series. It was literally the second episode was
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talking about Manhunter. They framed Jon Stewart for destroying the planet,
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and they tried to take back the power that the
485
00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:03.450
Guardians took away from them, so... there was a bit
486
00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:04.920
of history on that as well. If you want to
487
00:24:04.940 --> 00:24:06.539
go check that out, but they couldn't do some of
488
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.980
the abilities that the man hunters are claimed to do here. Although, uh,
489
00:24:12.339 --> 00:24:16.450
who knows? Uh, I did enjoy that. Joe, the interrogation there, uh,
490
00:24:17.190 --> 00:24:19.029
he put a pin to them down and we were
491
00:24:19.069 --> 00:24:21.670
speculating what this was in the trailer. And this is
492
00:24:21.710 --> 00:24:25.170
essentially him giving him a taste of what it was
493
00:24:25.210 --> 00:24:29.460
to experience the genocide that, uh, being a hunter carried
494
00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:31.839
out on their home planet he took the form of
495
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:36.960
somebody close to him and betrayed them so yeah that
496
00:24:38.140 --> 00:24:41.440
makes John scream but what I'm impressed about that is
497
00:24:41.589 --> 00:24:45.269
that he keeps the bird construct throughout the whole thing
498
00:24:45.289 --> 00:24:49.589
and they even remark on how impressive it is first
499
00:24:49.609 --> 00:24:52.009
they think it's Hal that's projecting it and he's like
500
00:24:52.069 --> 00:24:54.789
no I did that and that makes him even more
501
00:24:55.269 --> 00:24:58.930
impressed but remember there's five people with him and I'll
502
00:24:58.950 --> 00:25:02.369
be interested to see if that's... There's usually five main
503
00:25:02.430 --> 00:25:04.109
Red Lanterns with Atrasus, so..
504
00:25:04.029 --> 00:25:08.089
I mean, the Red Lanterns do grow into a whole
505
00:25:08.150 --> 00:25:10.400
core eventually, but yeah, you're not wrong.
506
00:25:11.140 --> 00:25:13.619
Well, in the main story, they could be possibly pulling
507
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.740
from here. So, yeah, I really enjoyed that little back
508
00:25:16.779 --> 00:25:21.490
and forth there. Joe, I thought that was awesome. And we'll...
509
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take our final ad break of the evening before we
510
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wrap up the rest of this episode. Listeners, we're going
511
00:25:27.299 --> 00:25:28.519
to ask for it never. We don't pick the answer.
512
00:25:28.539 --> 00:25:29.849
I'm going to give you a quick three, two, three, two, one.
513
00:25:29.859 --> 00:25:33.299
And we're back. Okay, Joe. Hal is in the hospital
514
00:25:39.740 --> 00:25:54.490
and he, well, Before that, Anton reveals that they can't
515
00:25:54.539 --> 00:26:01.960
go into Rushville because those four that were killed were
516
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:06.539
members of their party there, and they get detectors that
517
00:26:06.579 --> 00:26:10.220
can detect them. So he gives John the task of
518
00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:12.740
finding the Manhunter and calling him within 48 hours, or
519
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.240
they're going to go into Rushville and just blow up
520
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.200
with their devices that they have inside of them, basically
521
00:26:18.339 --> 00:26:19.640
destroying half of Nebraska.
522
00:26:19.970 --> 00:26:21.009
Yeah. Basically all to make them.
523
00:26:21.789 --> 00:26:26.029
Yeah. And yeah, that's pretty like, well, and I did, I,
524
00:26:26.049 --> 00:26:29.549
but I liked that. And just as that wraps up, uh,
525
00:26:29.630 --> 00:26:32.490
how Jordan wakes up in the hospital and can't, uh,
526
00:26:32.910 --> 00:26:36.980
sheriff came, waited by him, uh, which he does remark later,
527
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.299
like you stay by my bedside. And she's like, I
528
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:41.480
got kids. Like, you know, how hard it is to
529
00:26:41.500 --> 00:26:44.200
read a book in peace. And that is true. That
530
00:26:44.259 --> 00:26:49.289
is true. Uh, But yeah, she says that Hal's muttering
531
00:26:49.309 --> 00:26:51.430
the name Sinestro. And this is the first mention of
532
00:26:51.470 --> 00:26:55.079
Sinestro we get so far. And he's mumbling about it
533
00:26:55.099 --> 00:26:57.819
at first, won't say anything, says it's classified, and then
534
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:01.140
she Googles it and basically says that he kept it.
535
00:27:01.259 --> 00:27:04.700
I thought she was looking at a Wikipedia page or something.
536
00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:09.240
I'm like, how did you do that? Is that on Wikipedia?
537
00:27:09.460 --> 00:27:13.289
Or how would they know it's Lanterns if the Guardian's
538
00:27:13.309 --> 00:27:13.950
giving updates?
539
00:27:14.450 --> 00:27:15.960
She's a Manhunter! No, um..
540
00:27:17.109 --> 00:27:20.009
I love that. You're talking about that with heavy spoilers.
541
00:27:20.069 --> 00:27:21.690
She's a Manhunter. She's a Manhunter.
542
00:27:21.710 --> 00:27:25.819
Honestly, it is kind of weird, though, that she had
543
00:27:25.859 --> 00:27:33.420
this information on Sinestro. How did she have that information?
544
00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:38.130
Unless he literally spouted off all this stuff in his sleep.
545
00:27:38.690 --> 00:27:41.529
Maybe he mentioned something about it. Again, I don't know.
546
00:27:41.609 --> 00:27:44.890
He could have even said something. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know.
547
00:27:44.930 --> 00:27:46.519
He could have maybe told a reporter or something. We
548
00:27:46.539 --> 00:27:49.119
don't know what Hal was like before that.
549
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:49.759
Maybe.
550
00:27:49.779 --> 00:27:53.460
We had questions about it, but again, that's like a
551
00:27:53.539 --> 00:27:57.839
one-off thing here. She basically said that she researched Sinestro
552
00:27:57.920 --> 00:27:59.940
after and said he attempted a coup, killed one of
553
00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:02.839
the Guardians and Hal Jordan was the one to stop
554
00:28:02.859 --> 00:28:08.420
them and didn't have a good heart-to-heart talk here, essentially.
555
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:11.400
She says that, she tells what I mentioned earlier about
556
00:28:11.420 --> 00:28:14.490
if he doesn't come there and he's going to give
557
00:28:14.569 --> 00:28:17.730
power to William exactly who she doesn't want to have power.
558
00:28:18.450 --> 00:28:22.400
And he's been trying to undermine her authority as sheriff.
559
00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:24.700
And he's like, no, you're going to, you're going to
560
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.759
have to wait and let me take the lead on
561
00:28:26.779 --> 00:28:28.319
this stuff. I can call you if I need you.
562
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:30.859
And he's basically like, yeah, that's the, that can work.
563
00:28:31.420 --> 00:28:33.369
And he asked her where she's from. And she says, Gotham.
564
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:37.430
And then everybody's like, we are real cane Gotham. And
565
00:28:37.549 --> 00:28:40.170
it makes her phone call from the episode earlier mean
566
00:28:40.190 --> 00:28:43.900
a little bit more because the barb, And, yeah, is
567
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:45.099
she talking about Barbara Gordon?
568
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:52.470
Well, Barbara, yeah, I mean, maybe. Not, like, Batgirl Barbara Gordon,
569
00:28:52.490 --> 00:28:56.250
but maybe Mother Barbara Gordon. Who knows, Joe?
570
00:28:56.329 --> 00:28:58.150
Who knows? We're not sure.
571
00:28:58.170 --> 00:28:58.950
Yeah, exactly.
572
00:28:59.089 --> 00:29:02.170
We don't know what's even involved with Damien being Batman.
573
00:29:02.309 --> 00:29:06.750
Yeah, exactly. We haven't... gotten that.
574
00:29:07.089 --> 00:29:08.589
I don't think it means anything other than just a
575
00:29:08.589 --> 00:29:09.309
little Easter egg.
576
00:29:09.670 --> 00:29:13.210
Right, right. And who knows what Barbara she's talking about.
577
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:16.380
Yeah, that's true too, Joe. It could be anybody. But
578
00:29:16.420 --> 00:29:18.619
we don't know who attacked somebody from Gotham at that point.
579
00:29:18.940 --> 00:29:22.460
Another interesting thing, though, is while they're leaving the hospital,
580
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:26.109
Hal sees that he's the only one there.
581
00:29:26.750 --> 00:29:29.390
And also all the equipment is in plastic.
582
00:29:29.829 --> 00:29:32.849
Yeah, literally no one has used the equipment at all.
583
00:29:33.430 --> 00:29:34.269
Everything is brand new.
584
00:29:35.150 --> 00:29:36.720
They gave me really weird vibes.
585
00:29:37.289 --> 00:29:37.769
Right.
586
00:29:38.549 --> 00:29:43.150
Are all the town people aliens? Is this a whole
587
00:29:43.190 --> 00:29:44.349
town of Manhunters?
588
00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:52.319
Maybe. It's a small town, but even small towns, people
589
00:29:52.339 --> 00:29:55.839
get sick. There's old people there. They go to the
590
00:29:55.880 --> 00:30:00.789
hospitals constantly. What's going on? Are you telling me the
591
00:30:00.809 --> 00:30:03.509
doctors go to work and just don't have to do anything?
592
00:30:03.529 --> 00:30:06.150
I mean, if that's the case, let me be a
593
00:30:06.170 --> 00:30:07.480
doctor and go there. Like, shit, man.
594
00:30:07.509 --> 00:30:10.390
Yeah, like, just nobody gets sick. It's like, both the
595
00:30:10.410 --> 00:30:14.430
technology they have might make that impressive. And Jon Stewart
596
00:30:14.450 --> 00:30:16.980
gets back to Rushville. And this is where my alarms
597
00:30:17.019 --> 00:30:20.400
go off because Zoe's there again. And all she's doing,
598
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:23.619
she's asking questions and trying to figure out more information
599
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:26.660
about Hal. And it makes me like unsure who she is.
600
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.079
Like last episode of that, she could possibly be Manhunter
601
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:31.819
or even Star Sapphire. She's Manhunter! And now I'm like,
602
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:35.019
I don't know who you could be. Like, I really don't.
603
00:30:35.180 --> 00:30:36.559
I feel like you've got all three of your moments.
604
00:30:36.619 --> 00:30:38.779
I feel like you may be an alien. Like everybody,
605
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:40.140
I'm like alien, alien, alien.
606
00:30:41.019 --> 00:30:44.440
And that might be why the hospital is just a
607
00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:47.140
ruse to just be like, hey, this is, we are
608
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.710
living in the actual, this is an actual town. Yeah.
609
00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:53.849
And maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe everybody in town is an alien.
610
00:30:54.700 --> 00:30:56.480
Maybe they're not the Manhunter, maybe.
611
00:30:57.339 --> 00:31:01.400
But what I'm saying is maybe they all are Manhunters. Maybe,
612
00:31:02.420 --> 00:31:09.250
and that little device was to recognize not Manhunters.
613
00:31:10.069 --> 00:31:10.349
Maybe.
614
00:31:11.269 --> 00:31:13.990
And humans. I don't know.
615
00:31:14.549 --> 00:31:17.079
And again, John sits down and chats with her. The
616
00:31:17.099 --> 00:31:21.420
bird is still there. And he basically said, I wouldn't
617
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.140
sleep with you if I knew you were married. And
618
00:31:23.180 --> 00:31:26.250
she was like, I'm glad you didn't know then. basically saying, like,
619
00:31:26.269 --> 00:31:29.640
I had a great time with you. And then she
620
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.079
just has a heart to heart and says that she's
621
00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:35.960
with him for security and safety, which makes me think
622
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.589
even more that she's an alien. And also that he
623
00:31:40.650 --> 00:31:44.309
loves her so much is what she says. But he
624
00:31:44.329 --> 00:31:45.930
says she's supposed to be with Kyle.
625
00:31:46.009 --> 00:31:46.289
Sorry.
626
00:31:47.769 --> 00:31:51.529
It's just an odd. It's really odd. thing here and
627
00:31:51.549 --> 00:31:53.750
he's like yeah I think that guy's weird too just
628
00:31:53.910 --> 00:31:56.569
I love how John says that yeah I think he's
629
00:31:56.609 --> 00:31:58.990
weird and they didn't get into a conversation about if
630
00:31:59.009 --> 00:32:02.410
he should trust Hal or not and she says I
631
00:32:02.450 --> 00:32:03.849
think if you have a question that you already know
632
00:32:03.869 --> 00:32:06.539
the answer to that which is so unseated out in
633
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.119
there and I don't like that that's what she's been
634
00:32:08.140 --> 00:32:11.619
doing both times she chatted with him about Hal and
635
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.720
that gets my hand off as well yeah.
636
00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:22.309
No it's definitely interesting that she would be I mean,
637
00:32:22.430 --> 00:32:24.210
it could have just been a coincidence that she was
638
00:32:24.289 --> 00:32:26.890
at the restaurant or at that little diner.
639
00:32:27.589 --> 00:32:29.890
I don't think so. I don't believe in coincidence with
640
00:32:29.930 --> 00:32:34.630
this kind of, but I mean, who knows though? Every,
641
00:32:34.710 --> 00:32:36.559
I love this mystery of the, I'm just, it makes
642
00:32:36.579 --> 00:32:38.059
me so curious. I can't wait for the next episode,
643
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.059
even though it's from Lee Moore. It seems like into
644
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:41.059
John Stewart's past.
645
00:32:41.740 --> 00:32:42.079
Yeah.
646
00:32:42.259 --> 00:32:44.680
Which I will get some stuff with the, uh, chat
647
00:32:44.700 --> 00:32:46.799
with Sinestro and Hal too, which we'll chat about in
648
00:32:46.819 --> 00:32:49.680
a little bit. So John gets back to the hotel.
649
00:32:49.700 --> 00:32:53.960
He gets dropped off, uh, by uh zoe and he
650
00:32:54.019 --> 00:32:56.720
sees hal jordan there in a cat with the sling
651
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:01.619
uh he gives his bag to him and he brought
652
00:33:01.700 --> 00:33:03.960
the suit and hal even says like what'd you bring
653
00:33:04.009 --> 00:33:07.369
that he said i couldn't uh couldn't disgrace the uniform
654
00:33:07.430 --> 00:33:09.289
or something like that or have respect for the uniform
655
00:33:09.309 --> 00:33:14.230
uh and then he recharges the ring super quick uh
656
00:33:14.250 --> 00:33:15.869
like he says it like i used to say our
657
00:33:16.269 --> 00:33:18.109
father back in church when i used to have to
658
00:33:18.130 --> 00:33:19.619
go Yeah.
659
00:33:19.660 --> 00:33:21.160
I feel like he had a little more disdain for
660
00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:21.880
that than you did.
661
00:33:23.859 --> 00:33:25.299
I did not like to sit in church, Joe. I
662
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.400
got in trouble quite a bit for not moving. For moving,
663
00:33:28.420 --> 00:33:29.589
I mean, instead of not moving.
664
00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.289
I know what you meant.
665
00:33:32.410 --> 00:33:34.910
Yeah, I love this. I just love how it charges up.
666
00:33:34.970 --> 00:33:36.750
It doesn't take any time to charge up, which I
667
00:33:36.789 --> 00:33:37.589
think is nice.
668
00:33:38.630 --> 00:33:42.069
Did he fully charge it? Because, I mean, we didn't
669
00:33:42.130 --> 00:33:43.059
hear it, but like..
670
00:33:42.990 --> 00:33:43.069
I.
671
00:33:44.789 --> 00:33:45.470
Don't know. I just..
672
00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:52.230
I assume so. I assume so. So, Uh, then him and, uh,
673
00:33:53.309 --> 00:33:56.289
what do you call it? Have a chat. He, John
674
00:33:56.329 --> 00:33:58.410
kind of remarks about how impressive the shot is that
675
00:33:58.450 --> 00:34:02.009
went through the shoulder. Uh, and then they get into
676
00:34:02.650 --> 00:34:06.130
what's going on with the mystery. Uh, John tells him
677
00:34:06.190 --> 00:34:09.170
about him getting kidnapped and that there's a man hunter.
678
00:34:09.210 --> 00:34:11.170
He asked her who the man hunters are first. And
679
00:34:11.230 --> 00:34:13.800
that's what gets hell. Like, what would you hear that?
680
00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:14.679
His hackles up.
681
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.139
And then they chat about it for a bit. He
682
00:34:17.179 --> 00:34:19.019
lets them know everything that happens. He even says that
683
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:20.760
they told him not to tell Hal, but they don't
684
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:29.010
trust him. And they kind of... Hal basically theorizes, him
685
00:34:29.030 --> 00:34:32.690
and John Stewart, that Avenser kind of... They thought he
686
00:34:32.730 --> 00:34:35.130
was sent here to investigate and probably was killed by
687
00:34:35.170 --> 00:34:39.530
the Manhunter. And that's why the ring went to him, Hal.
688
00:34:39.730 --> 00:34:43.969
So he lets Hal know as well. John knows that
689
00:34:44.090 --> 00:34:46.510
there's 48 hours left or they're going to come in
690
00:34:46.530 --> 00:34:51.809
and blow everything up. And they also haven't told... One
691
00:34:52.170 --> 00:34:54.469
thing Hal specifically asked John is, did you tell the
692
00:34:54.489 --> 00:34:57.070
Guardians any of this? And John was like, no, I
693
00:34:57.110 --> 00:34:58.179
report to you. Yeah.
694
00:34:59.880 --> 00:35:01.380
Which makes me question..
695
00:35:01.139 --> 00:35:01.219
I.
696
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:06.699
Meant to go back to the first episode and re-watch that,
697
00:35:06.820 --> 00:35:13.130
but I'm pretty sure it actually is legit. But did
698
00:35:13.570 --> 00:35:15.530
the Guardians assign John to Hal?
699
00:35:16.059 --> 00:35:19.099
Yeah. I say we'll see a scene in the next
700
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.760
episode where we get more of John's backstory, but yeah,
701
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:28.480
he does. They mention that he's supposed to be training him. Yeah,
702
00:35:28.500 --> 00:35:33.159
so they think that. They go back. John also says
703
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:35.920
they were quite impressed by the bird, but I figured
704
00:35:35.940 --> 00:35:38.380
that wasn't. They were just pulling the chain because if
705
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.070
it was that advanced, you probably would have given me
706
00:35:40.090 --> 00:35:43.710
a hurrah and a pat on the back. Hurrah. Hurrah.
707
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:46.900
I laughed at that. And then they both go their
708
00:35:46.940 --> 00:35:51.000
separate ways, except Hal's got a different idea. He straps
709
00:35:51.059 --> 00:35:54.300
up his Green Lantern suit and flies, which I do
710
00:35:54.340 --> 00:35:56.599
love this scene. He takes off from Earth and goes
711
00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.639
to this other planet where they have a prison that
712
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:04.820
looks awful lot like the quantum folding chamber from Peacemaker
713
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.960
a little bit, like the inside of it with the
714
00:36:08.019 --> 00:36:10.659
orange lights and the different doors. It's just set up
715
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:13.760
a little differently. and he goes through and we see
716
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:18.420
our first appearance of Sinestro. And he asks him what
717
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.519
he knows about Manhunters, and he basically says that it
718
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:24.500
would be the second greatest threat that you're currently facing.
719
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:27.719
And then he says, can you tell me about Jon Stewart?
720
00:36:29.210 --> 00:36:34.030
And this is why I ask how, or about if
721
00:36:34.050 --> 00:36:41.070
the Guardians assigned Jon to Hal, how does Sinestro know about.
722
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:47.320
John maybe like this isn't too far after hell shut
723
00:36:47.340 --> 00:36:50.280
him down and he knew about john or maybe he
724
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.960
got people and still in power he hears.
725
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About stuff that's also possible.
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Maybe there's a scuttlebutt around the prison that how the
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great hal jordan has a apprentice.
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That maybe or or theory time sorry stealing it from
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uh yeah from from heavy spoilers um Maybe Jon Stewart,
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I mean, Sinestro's calling him a threat. Maybe Jon is
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a threat to the Green Lanterns and not just Hal
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in general. Maybe there's something about Jon in particular because
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he himself is a product or a, I don't know,
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product maybe is the right word, of a Manhunter, maybe?
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Well, his dad could be a Manhunter.
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Well, maybe that's why he was so more strict.
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On time than he was on the other ones. I
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have thought about it, Joe. I have thought about it
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as well. I was going to ask you about that
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because I thought about that or even half Manhunter this
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day as Manhunter. But I don't know. I'm really excited
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about this mystery.
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Because I have no idea. And I'm saying, I bring
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that up because that's why maybe he was able to,
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he had all this power and that's why he was
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able to keep the construct of the bird as long
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as he had. Now, I know John had that power
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in the comics.
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Some comics, yes. You're right.
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But that's comic lore. I know they like to bring
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comic lore in here. But that's a whole different thing.
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So I don't know. This was the theory that I
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00:38:32.670 --> 00:38:40.889
saw somebody else post online that maybe... the man hunters
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00:38:40.949 --> 00:38:47.750
came to John's dad and they bargained with him. And
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John is a product of that bargain.
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We see, we do it as a trailer and it
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looks like I see his mom too. So I am
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00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.480
going to be curious about this. This I'm, I'm very, uh,
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I really love this episode, Joe, that the mystery is,
760
00:39:02.699 --> 00:39:03.579
it's really good.
761
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I liked this episode better than the first one.
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And one of the things that I really good mystery
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does is, after you finish watching it and they give
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you the mystery you'd be you're like if i look
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00:39:14.340 --> 00:39:16.159
deeper in the clues i would have got it as
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well like so uh i hope that there are little
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00:39:20.610 --> 00:39:22.130
things that we can go back and be like man
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00:39:22.170 --> 00:39:23.909
i missed that and that and that would have told
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me what was going on because that is what i
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00:39:26.230 --> 00:39:28.210
found in true detective this first season which is what
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00:39:28.230 --> 00:39:30.690
this is the type of show this is based on.
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00:39:31.550 --> 00:39:34.889
So yeah, I, I'm really excited, Joe. I love the
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show and the next episode is going to be a
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lot of backstory about John, but hopefully we get that
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conversation about hell. And I feel like that'll lead into
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00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:47.380
the backstory of that for John, but what John's going
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00:39:47.400 --> 00:39:48.980
to be doing while this is going on is what
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00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:52.289
I'm going to be curious about. Yeah. So, yeah, a
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00:39:52.289 --> 00:39:54.800
lot of stuff going on, Joe. Fun show. A lot
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00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:59.699
of positive buzz about this. No news on second episode
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00:39:59.739 --> 00:40:01.840
numbers yet. That'll come out later this week. So we'll
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talk about that next week. Hopefully they increase from the
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00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:07.619
nine point three it took for a few days after
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the last episode. And, yeah, I'm really enjoying this. I'm
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00:40:11.219 --> 00:40:15.610
loving the positive feedback from people watching it. It seems
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like this is a good, good show. And I'm really
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00:40:18.380 --> 00:40:20.239
enjoying myself anyway. And there's a lot of stuff with
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Lantern Lord that I didn't expect us to get so early. Yeah.
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00:40:24.929 --> 00:40:28.090
Yeah, I mean, if you guys watch the Heavy Spoilers
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YouTube page, he's diving into multiple..
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00:40:32.309 --> 00:40:34.389
Yeah, he's going way further than I think that they're
792
00:40:34.429 --> 00:40:34.940
going in this.
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Probably.
794
00:40:35.489 --> 00:40:38.860
Maybe they're just pulling the elements from each story too, right?
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Like, I'm not going to say that they're pulling in
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Blackest Night just yet, but maybe they are. Maybe they
797
00:40:45.539 --> 00:40:45.719
could be.
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Or they could be setting up dominoes for that in
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the second season. They are getting that together. So who knows?
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Just really enjoying the show, Joe.
801
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Yeah, it's really good.
802
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And can't wait for next episode. Also, we'll probably talk
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about it. Maybe we'll even review it. I said that.
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00:41:02.289 --> 00:41:06.340
Maybe we'll review it after Lantern's Batman Nightfall. That is
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00:41:06.420 --> 00:41:10.179
out too. Oh, I reviewed that on the Animation Nation,
806
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:12.710
so check that out. If you're listening to this, please
807
00:41:12.750 --> 00:41:15.909
come out the same day. Check that out. Joe, we'll
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00:41:15.929 --> 00:41:18.780
be back next week to talk more lanterns. Until then,
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see you, everyone.
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Bye, y'all.