The Night Cap with Gary Jeff Walker -- 2/2/26

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Speaker 1: Seven hundred l W.
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Speaker 2: How you doing, Gary Jeff Walker? February second, Groundhog Day. The Fat Rat from Pusatani saw his shadow like we need more winter Tonight is I'm just really happy to be doing this show and have so much fun, and I hope you come along for the ride between now and midnight. My friend Flash Phelps, who was a serious XM radio host on the channel they call sixties Gold. He's there every morning and he's going to be here next to talk about other groundhog spots around the United States and some other winter sights to see as we're going to go through at least six weeks more according to the groundhog, or at least that groundhog, but there were plenty of others speaking of groundhogs. We'll be talking to Chip Hart tonight and maybe even get into some groundhog recipes before we're done. Yum's Al Litvak, who is a Jewish Hollywood conservative filmmaker, like there are such things, especially the conservative in Hollywood together. His movie latest film was rated the best faith based movie of all the good ones that are out there. We'll be talking to him about that and maybe a revision of or kind of like a critique of the Grammy Awards last night. Since he's out in Hollywood and he rubs elbows with all these people, I hope he cleans his elbows. And also the new Millennia Trump documentary which just debuted last week. We're talking to Sal Litveak about ten thirty or so at eleven o'clock. Michael Letts from invest USA Law Enforcement ICE the government shut down anything related to law enforcement. Mike lets can speak on effectively, and we'll talk to him. And before we're done, the wild Man, Dennis Wildman Walker will join us for a little session of sports for the out of sorts, And he always seems to be slightly out of sorts, which makes it more fun for me.
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Speaker 1: It's a night camp.
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Speaker 2: We start with a flash Phelps Winner Tour guide around our country. Next on seven hundred WLW predicting the weather.
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Speaker 1: This is pitiful.
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Speaker 3: A thousand people freezing their butts off waiting to worship a rat. Your hypocrites, Alia tiny village in Western what's thing?
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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah.
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Speaker 3: As long as this groundhog keeps seeing his shadow, I don't see any other way out.
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Speaker 1: He's got to be stopped.
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Speaker 3: What would you do if you were stuck in one place and every day was exactly the same and nothing that he did.
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Speaker 1: Man sums it up for me. Do you ever have deja vu? Missus Lancaster? I don't think so that I could check with a kitchen, I'd say the.
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Speaker 3: Chance to departure is eighty percent.
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Speaker 1: He's pounding the pillow over his face.
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Speaker 5: I'm a god, You're god.
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Speaker 6: I'm a god.
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Speaker 7: I'm not the guy.
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Speaker 3: I have been stabbed, shot, poisoned, frozen hull, electrocuted and burned.
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Speaker 4: Oh really special, today's blueberry waffles?
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Speaker 1: Oh my god?
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Speaker 2: Of course, Bill Murray and Groundhog Day waking up to Sonny and Cheer every morning and trying to kill himself to get out of the nightmare that was Pusatani Pennsylvania in that nineteen ninety three movie.
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Speaker 1: It is groundhog Day.
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Speaker 2: And have a little bit about the origins if you didn't have time to look up Wikipedia yourself. And we also have someone who's traveled to a lot of great holes around the country.
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Speaker 1: And we're going to talk about that again.
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Speaker 2: We're bringing back my friend Flash Phelps for the next hour here up until ten o'clock on the Nightcap and Flash has been literally everywhere in the country, saved for maybe a couple hundred counties, and it's always a joy to talk to him. So Flash Phelps, how are we doing on this Groundhog Day?
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Well, I got up early to start celebrating, and it's so much fun to hear all of those clips from Groundhog Day. Have you ever gone to the Groundhog Day City? There's early two of them at Gobblers Now, there's Gobblers now, which is there, But let's talk about goat Murray's place right there, which is where you do have one called Woodstock Willy and Woodstock Willy earlier today said early Spring. Now, that's in Illinois, Woodstock, Illinois. That's where they filmed the entire movie. It was never done in Ponsantania, Pennsylvania. And you can even go over to what's called the Cherry Inn. The Cherry Inn is where Bill Murray stays, where he spends thirty eight consecutive Groundhog Days. And so if you had it's on the south side of downtown Woodstock, Illinois. So the square that's where they do the whole thing that you see where he gets splashed and all the things around that square in downtown Woodstock, Illinois, where all the filming lies.
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Speaker 2: Does it look still to this day pretty true to the movie?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, even though that was nineteen ninety two and we're looking at thirty four years since the movie Groundhog Day. If you go there, some pictures that I got in front of the Cherry Inn that you look at it and look at Bill Murray standing there and mcdall and you see it and go, wow, it really has not changed. And I went there at Christmas time. I had snow all over the ground. It was a really nice time because I always wanted to go in and then I finally did and it was a nice So that was in twenty twenty two. I did the Groundhog Day for to To To two.
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Speaker 1: That was the date pack Tochu To Too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was years ago.
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Speaker 2: In Putsatani, Pennsylvania, where they have the celebration every year at Gobbler's Knob. That's the most famous one in the country.
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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah. Eighteen eighty six.
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Speaker 2: Eighteen eighty six was the first time that it appeared in the local newspaper. The next year brought the first official trek to Gobbler's Knob, and every year since there's been a steady increase in people coming there.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever gone there?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have the number of the pictures. In fact, I posted a picture of me. No, I have not gone on Groundhog Day, even though they wanted me to go on Groundhog's Day. So, but I always usually go when because it's not too far away from Jimmy starts home. So Jimmy Storet is from Indiana, Pennsylvania, and you go just up the road and you'll be in Ponsetani and so it's heart And there's even a town called Glenn Campbell, same as the singer Glenn Campbell. It's Glenn Campbell, Pennsylvania. That's all right in the same place. And you pull into town. Now when you're when you're in downtown with the movie, it makes it look like it's in downtown because they did in downtown Woostock, Illinois, but that they have to put people on buses at three in the morning to get them up to Gobbler's Knob because it's on the south side of downtown. And there's this hill and you drive up the hill and it'll loop right back around on that side. But when you're at the very top, you're at Gobler's Knob and you pull in and there's an iron gate that says Gobbler's Knob on it, and then you drive through and there's a whole parking area, but because there's not a lot of parking for as many people as they want on a February the second they pust people up and then you walk in and they even have some of the groundhogs that are standing up there, which are some of the ones from Phil and Phillis. And then you walk in and they keep Phil Stump there around that says weather Capital is such a great drive, especially, I know you serve so much of this area right here where it's such an easy drive for where I am. It's about five hours up the road, so worth going to Punk Satani any time of the year. And you live in Virginia, right, I live in Maryland. Now Maryland Maryland side of now done?
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Speaker 2: Does does Maryland have an official groundhog flash?
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Speaker 3: Now they're they're trying to do a crab. They want a crab to make the decision predict the weather. Yeah, I was good. I was going on to see how many of there are now. One site told me there's seventy seven prognosticators. Another one told me there's eighty eight. So I made a list of almost all of them I could. But there's a lot of looking to see whether or not sea Shadow didn't see shadow. But I have a listing that I'll throw out here during your hour a year some of the wild names.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Gobbler's Knob, the groundhog there, Pucksatani Phil did see his shadow, you know, foreshadowing another six weeks of winter, which the calendar kind of agrees with. You know that Puck Satani Phil is only right thirty seven percent of the time, even though the locals insists he's very, very accurate. Now you see the Woodstock ground Hug where they filmed the movie.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't see his.
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Speaker 3: Shadow right, right, he said early spring?
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Speaker 1: Early spring.
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Speaker 2: And it would be interesting to just chart all of these that we're going to go through and see who said what and then you know, in six weeks we could we could do a follow up and see who was right right and what.
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Speaker 3: That's what they do. They'll go through and they'll say in two years in a row, Funkstani Phil didn't see a shadow. And one of the times he was right. Do you know which one in the country is the best with percentage of getting it right. I found that out. It's Staten Island Chuck. Well, we have a Buckeye Chuck in Ohio, but stat Buckeye Chuck said early spring. By the way, Buckeye Chuck early spring he announced earlier. That was good.
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Speaker 2: But Staten Island Chuck has the best percentage uh.
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Speaker 3: Eighty five percent of the time they say he's right, and it's based on from the time where he'll say okay, early spring, They'll go to the first day six weeks out and they'll find out was the temperature above normal? And that's what they're looking for, above average? And then if they see above average, they say, check mark, you were right or wrong based on the above or below the average temp on that first day of spring.
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Speaker 2: Is there a particular place where Staten Island Chuck makes his prediction from there?
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Speaker 3: Is I solid that I've never actually gone on. I've been on Staten Island, but I've never gone over to go find it. So I did see that there is some kind of looks like a little dog house kind of thing that he's in, Unlike the stump that fills in.
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Speaker 2: Well teed ye, you know, since we're right there at Staten Island, you've been everywhere. Tell me about Staten Island. Is there anything really cool to see on Staten Island in New York?
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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I'm going to tell you what the best thing to see. My favorite thing besides is the memorial to ninety eleven and it's called Postcards for I think it's called Postcards to Heaven. And there's this view that you look through and it's right over on the north side, right where the Staten Island ferry would leave and go towards Manhattan, and this ninety eleven memorial, it's you look directly through it and you can see where the World Trade Center used to stand. I think that's one of my favorite parts of their. Fort Wadsworth is incredible as well, because it's all a part of what's called the Gateway National Recreation Area, both the New York and New Jersey sides that are the gateway to come into the Hudson River. So it's a beautiful area. So I always like just riding across Staten Island, you have two bridges, well you have two on the side of New Jersey that can get you in, So which is really nice outer Bridge crossing and then Gothels Bridge. But yeah, I enjoyed it. And this Richmond. It's one of the five boroughs. So yeah, great place. Staten Island in the home of Staten Island. Chuck eighty five percent right, And he saw his shadow, by the way, so he says, six more weeks of winter for Staten Island.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, that's not that's not encouraging.
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Speaker 2: Let's let's let's go talking to Flash Phelps, who has been literally everywhere in this country. And uh, by the way, I always have incredible response from your appearances on this show, Flash of people going, man, that's amazing. He knows all these different little hamlets and roads and how to get places and out of the way places. I think the most amazing thing to me in our discussions has been that that island in Hawaii that is home to the terrible disease that you.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's on Molokai. It's the Kala Papa Peninsula, is what that is. Yeah, And that is one of the and that's its own county and they are starting to open it up again. They had to close down at the pandemic. But I went in twenty seventeen and then it's like, gosh, I gotta go see that again sometime. Just really incredible. Yeah, so that was Hanson's disease that you're right that they had. And it's a very nice tour if you can get out there to go to the island of Molokai on the north side.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's get to some more groundhog since it's uh, we're finishing Groundhog Day twenty twenty six. Where else are we going? Where we're going next?
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Speaker 3: Let's go down towards Georgia. General Beauregard Lee saw his shadow. There's another one that saw his shadow. Now he has another really good percentage of the best percentage of what the groundhogs say Staten Island, Chuck Beauregard. General Beauregard Lee is number two with the best percentage. And then it's I didn't check to see whether or not he saw it or not. Lander Lil which is out it is actually not a groundhog. It's a prairie dog. And they use a prairie dog in Lander, Wyoming to be able to find out and they have a statue of them which is right over at the library. So there's one to check out. I need to look it up to see what he did. I don't know if he said yes or no.
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Speaker 2: Originally this was a This goes back to Germany and it was called Candlemas Day. And then they used a hedgehog. But America didn't have any indigenous hedgehogs, so they went to another ground burrowing animal, and the groundhog came to be the number one choice. So general Beauregard Lee as in Georgia. We're at in Georgia flash.
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Speaker 3: I think that's the Atlanta area. I have to look up to see exactly where the city is, but I'm pretty sure they pull him out of the Georgia the Atlanta area. And I know Lander or Wyoming has this. How about Gerdie the groundhog in Illinois. This is one I know about because I always here about this one in Madison, Wisconsin up the road. It's called sun Prairie. Jimmy the groundhog in Wisconsin. He said early spring. That was really good news. What is his percentage of accuracy?
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Speaker 1: Though?
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Speaker 3: He is number one, two, three, four, or five, He's six on the list percentage so he and buck Eye Chuck is right under him, all right?
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Speaker 2: So uh, buck eye Chuck didn't see his shadow, you said or didn't buck Eye?
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Speaker 1: He did not.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, early Spring, Ohio, how about that? That was a really good one. Some of the other our friends up there in Canada, there's some really fun ones like early Spring, says Lucy the Lobster in Nova Scotia Lobster. This is here's one of my favorites. Pope County Paula and Polk County Paula, which is Des Moines, Iowa. It's a human. It's a human dressed up like a groundhog. That's how they make their decision there.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's because you know, in Iowa, just like just like beef, just like pork, just like any other farm animal, they're farmed a table there. They don't have time to let a groundhog live just to predict the weather, so they dress up as groundhogs. I wonder if that that qualifies Polk County. What's her last name, Paula, Paula. I wonder if that qualifies her as a furry.
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Speaker 3: I got a chance to do that when I worked in Fort Wayne, Indiana. We were doing a contest. Remember when the Super Bowl used to be before it was in January, Yeah, and so we we bet on Bud Bowl and I lost, and I had to wear what we called the Wookie suit because I look like Chewbacca. So but I actually sort of won by losing. I got to wear the groundhog day suit. And it was so cold on February the second back in the nineties when I worked there, I was the one staying warm, and they're like, hey, wait a minute, you really won by wearing the Wookie suit.
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Speaker 1: So I was a ground I had no idea you were. You were a furry at one time. Flash. That's amazing news.
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Speaker 2: All right, Listen, we're coming to close to the end of this half hour, so when we come back, we'll run through a little bit more groundhog locations and maybe some fun stuff to do in the places where whatever animal. Lucy the lobster in Nova.
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Speaker 3: Scotia, how about that.
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Speaker 2: It's not not in the United States. But have you ever been to Nova Scotia. I never had.
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Speaker 3: I went to Nova Scotia back because after the Carly Simon song, and I wanted to go see the total eclips remember that in the lyrics. Yes, So I went out to New Brunswick. I crossed from Maine. I drove that whole thing. I drove into New Brunswick and then went right into Nova Scotia. I went on the Prince Edward Island. So the one I'm missing right now is Newfoundland, so I'm going to be heading up there. I want to do that this summer.
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Speaker 2: All right, fantastic. We're talking to Flash Phelps Groundhog Day. He's been everywhere man, and now he's back here Man on the nightcap from our friends at Sirius XM and sixties Gold. He's there every morning and he doesn't talk too much. He plays plenty of good music. Flash, hang on, it will be right back. Okay, you got it, all right? Flash Phelps returns afternoons next on seven hundred wlw R.
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Speaker 3: Flash all but one hundred and eighty two right now. So I'm there's thirty one hundred and forty two and I still have one hundred and eighty two left. I almost have finished Georgia. Georgia has one hundred and fifty nine counties and I'm now down to seven and six of them touch each other. So I'm hoping to complete every county in Georgia this year. I should be able to do it.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 2: Make sure that on your track you try and look up general Beauregard Lee.
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Speaker 3: And figure out exactly where he is. Yeah, just it tells me Georgia without looking at him. By the way, he has an eighty percent chance of getting it right, is what it is. That's his probability right now.
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Speaker 2: Eighty Well, you know what I'm hearing so far are from you and your study of groundhogs across the country. That really bucks a Tony Phil not all that accurate.
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Speaker 1: Although he is.
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Speaker 3: Down here's where he ranks. He ranks seventeenth of best percentage right now Staten Island. Chuck the best. Then when General Beauregardlely Georgia Lander lil is seventy five percent. And it's a one called Concord Charlie in West Virginia. But they said it's never been seen, and they presume that it must actually not be real. They just like somebody just guessing. I guess, well, no, you have a groundhog or you don't flash Yeah, And they said it's never been seen.
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Speaker 1: And this is in Virginia.
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Speaker 3: That's in West Virginia, West Virginia, Cord Charlie. It just has never seen, presumed a groundhog. They don't even know what it is. Have some of these as you know, are lobsters things like that.
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Speaker 1: Sure, have you been to Concord, West Virginia Flag?
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Speaker 3: Probably, I've been to every county, so I've been close. If I haven't been in the town, look at to see exactly where they do this on.
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Speaker 2: You know, people people pass over West Virginia because one reason or another. But it's from what I understand, it's really beautiful country in the mountains there. Tell me, tell me a favorite thing about West Virginia. Oh, my favorite Harper's Ferry.
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Speaker 3: Harper's Ferry right at the corner where you get the confluence of the Potomac River and it's the Shenandoah River. So when you hear the song take Me Home, Country Roads, the line that's written and when they were talking about almost having West Virginia, he was actually singing about he heard the radio coming from far away, and that was wheeling West Virginia is what he was hearing. But he was hearing it from Montgomery County, Maryland. So when they wrote this song, that was really in Maryland thinking about my home far away. But when you hear Blue Ridge Mountain, Shenandoah River, that all is right there together at Harper's Ferry and you walk up the top of Maryland Heights and overlook. Oh, that's one of the greatest of West Virginia. Just taken I seventy seven through the state, or going to the New River Gorge and just standing on that bridge. You know, in October mid October, people can jump off the bridge over the New River and they can parachute down. It's just beautiful. You go right down Fayette Station Road, you get to the very bottom and you look directly up at the bridge.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 3: So, so many great things do in West Virginia. And one of my favorites is they've now been putting in swings. There's swings all over the state. Look up West Virginia swings and then you can get pictures. They put them in picturesque places in the state of West Virginia. It's a great photo op and it says almost heaven and you're swinging in West Virginia. So that's a good one. That's my fame.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean in West Virginia you could be swinging with relatives.
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Speaker 1: There's no there's no yeah.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, not too far away from that area of where they were having the Hatfield's and McCoy's. There's the town of Phelps, my last name, in Kentucky, right at the edge where West Virginia comes out, right at that little point.
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Speaker 1: Have you got a picture in front of Phelps sign? Yes?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a number of those signs. The one of my favorites is the one up in Phelps, New York, which is near Rochester. And then there they have a wait point sign that tells you where all the ones that are the cities with my last name are all around the country. That tells you exactly how far they are, how many, how many?
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Speaker 2: How many Phelps? How many towns named Phelps are there around the country.
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Speaker 3: I think there's ten, there's ten or more, because do you know there's three of them in the state of Missouri. Yeah, because right on Route sixty six western Springfield before Joplin, you'll get the town of Phelps. I went over there last year because it was foggy, so I got Phelps in the fog. And then there's Phelps County, which is where Rala is on I forty four were sixty six. And also they one called Phelps City which is right on the Missouri River, and that is right across the border from Nebraska, so south of Omaha and Nebraska City you can get that. And so it's really I must have a lot of relatives in that area.
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Speaker 1: Apparently.
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Speaker 3: What's what's the snowiest place you've ever been? Well, I lived in Montana and when I lived out there, that was one of my second radio jobs. And I got there and the car wouldn't start that next day. And this was forty years ago right now. I left on February the third drub out there, February the tenth. I'm trying to start this new radio job, and I needed a new battery, and I needed something to plug in to my oil pan. And you get those plugs that come out of your car, and so every time you pulled in somewhere you had to plug in your car. And man, I saw a lot of snow there. That was one of the snowiest I've seen.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I mean, now, do you I know you travel all the time. It's the only way you could be going to almost all thirty one hundred plus counties in the country and all fifty states. Do you do you at this time of the year do you kind of back off and not travel quite as much because of the weather and the cold.
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Speaker 3: Right now until a couple more weeks and then it'll finally be kicking into it because I want to do a very big driving celebration starting in April, which I'm going to announce on the way. I'm going to try to do something that is covering so many places that I've never done before. So if when we check in, maybe Memorial Day whenever, next time we talk, I'll tell you what I'm going to be in the middle of trying to do. So you're just gonna have to track me down next time that we're talking about some kind of travel and I'll tell you what I'm in the middle of trying to do that includes places I haven't been, and it's going to be a lot. And I'm starting to think maybe I need another flashmobile because I have four hundred and thirty two thousand miles on the slashmobile on to twenty eighteen. And you saw it, you were there, You saw it.
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Speaker 1: At our birthday party in Michigan.
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Speaker 3: So driven there.
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Speaker 1: What other groundhog reports do you have? Since there's all right, let's check in, s let's.
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Speaker 3: Do something in Canada early spring from Wireton Willie in Ontario, early spring. Lucy the Lobster. I talked about that one. Here's some other fun names that are in there too, Manitoba merv I got to find out baal Zach, Billy and Alberta. Chili is one of them. The name Chilli Charlie in Ontario. How about Fred the Marmot in Quebec. That's Marmot, What love Marmott.
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Speaker 4: They didn't put a lot.
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Speaker 3: They do that a great one. Do you remember what thing cracked them up on Mary Tyler Moore? It was the passing of Chuckles the Clown. Remember that? Yes, well there's there. There's a ground dog known as Chuckles the ground Dog in Connecticut and he's really Chuckles.
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Speaker 4: There something that I need.
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Speaker 3: To go through and find.
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Speaker 2: Remember, Okay, do you remember how Chuckles the Clown died on Mary Tyler Moore?
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Speaker 3: No, I didn't know. They kept he was dressed.
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Speaker 2: He was dressed is Peter Peanut and he was shelled by an elephant in a service parade.
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Speaker 3: The greatest clips that they have, Oh, we do have one here that's a Potomac phill. I got to see what Potomac fill in d C did. Let's see, I did learn about sand Mountain Sam, Sand Mountain Sam. I understand. Uh, he's in Alabama.
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Speaker 2: Sand Mountain, Alabama. I used to work in Chattanooga and very near Sand Mountain.
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Speaker 3: Oh, well, guess what he didn't see a shadow. So that's early spring down there in the Chattanooga area, which is great use. After that, I like this one and somebody explained it to me. There was Alan mcbuter pants in New York.
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Speaker 1: That's a I don't know that it was a brownhog or what is it?
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Speaker 5: Uh huh.
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Speaker 3: Butter pants. Isn't that a great name? I love that one. And I found this one too, Alphine. The burrowing owl is in Florida, and I guess these owls burrow this time of the year. So they they said that's done over where some kids, some kids baseball fields are is where they go and see that one. Some of these are just so exciting to hear the names.
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Speaker 1: Have you been to where the burrowing owl is in Florida?
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Speaker 3: Not that I know of, but I've been to every county in Florida, so I'm sure I didn't know to go look. Yeah, some of these I don't know where I'm supposed to look when I'm out there and it's like, oh, I forgot so I tried to on my Mac. But on my phone I try to mark and put a pin saying when I'm in this area, look for this, because they don't specifically remember when it's the summer looking for something that was the woodshuck or something like that, like what are you the woodshuck in Michigan or mohave Max who is a tortoise out in Nevada. And by the way, he didn't do too well. He does worse than Ponsitani Phil with guessing as to what the weather's going into.
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Speaker 1: A hobby Max, And that's in New Mexico.
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Speaker 3: That one's in Nevada, Nevada.
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Speaker 4: Where that one is?
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Speaker 1: What else?
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Speaker 3: How about if you're riding on the Blue Ridge Parkway in North Carolina, you can actually officially go to Groundhog Mountain. That's always a good one. Groundhog Mountain. It's either in North Carolina Virginia. If you ride Blue Ridge Parkway, just find Groundhog Mountains.
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Speaker 1: Groundhog Mountain.
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Speaker 3: I have now that one.
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Speaker 5: I do.
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Speaker 3: I have the picture because I was going through. Here's how I do it. After I have all my pictures, I try to label them so well and I'll type in Groundhog Mountain, Blue Ridge Parkway, and then if I search the word groundhog, all my pictures come up, whether or not where I was. And then Groundhog Day. There's an incredible mural to the movie Groundhog Day. Orson Wells also has a connection to Woodscock, Illinois, and then so they have an entire mural with Bill Murray. They have the clock. It's really a nice mural right in downtown. It's one block up from the square, not easy to find, but it is there.
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Speaker 2: How big is Woodstock and there are there plenty of places you say that the Cherry.
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Speaker 1: Inn is there?
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Speaker 3: Cherry In cherry In that's where Bill Murray stays and that's on the south side. So you drive down there, you just look around at all the filming spots for the movie Groundhog Day.
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Speaker 1: Is that actually is the Cherry In actually a functioning place?
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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's a it's a bed and brefast that you can stay there. So look that one up if if it's you really want to do it. But with all these prognosticators, it's amazing to see all the different fun names that are out there. Some of my can't even pronounce, like well I'm not going to pronounce it because I can't. I won't get it right. Some of these really weird names. How about Kenwick Floss, I like that name in Ontario. Okay, So these I think it's just fun. Holtsville, Howe is another way. Dunkirk Dave, by the way said early spring. Dunkirk isn't part of that gets all the lake of text snow in Erie, right on Lake Erie, right between Buffalo and Erie, Pennsylvania. And so Dunkirk Dave said, early spring, I was surprised about that one. Here's a good one. Poor Richard in Pennsylvania. Poor Richard in Pennsylvania is a taxi durmy one that they just say what they say.
00:30:20
Speaker 1: So they've got a stuffed groundhog that predicts.
00:30:23
Speaker 3: As you know, they just want to put the blame on something, or they didn't want to have fun in all these different places. Malvern Mell in New York. There's some of Grover in Sue in Pennsylvania. Sir Walter Wally in North Carolina. After they got all that snow, Sir Walter Wally want to find out what he said.
00:30:45
Speaker 1: Grover and Sue. Is it a couple?
00:30:48
Speaker 3: Uh huh Grover and Sue in Pennsylvania. They it's it's right next to where Miss G is in Flash of Chusetts. So these are all by way of the ones that were doing the best on trying to predict it.
00:31:00
Speaker 1: What is the absolute worst at predicting an early.
00:31:04
Speaker 3: They said, it's Miss G in Flash of Choosetts. Well, that which is Massachusetts to many, but I call it that. So that's what they say is the worst prediction of all. I could let me go back to my listing, because I had the listing of all the percentages of how well how bad they did. Oh they say, no, hobby Max actually did the worst at twenty five percent, getting it right, Woody, the Woodshock of Michigan is only thirty five percent, the same as punks ATONI, Phil, Well, you know some of them.
00:31:32
Speaker 2: If you if you do less than fifty to fifty, you're a pretty bad indicator of what's going to happen, you know, because you figure you got it.
00:31:41
Speaker 1: It's a coin flip, either it is or it isn't.
00:31:44
Speaker 8: Uh.
00:31:45
Speaker 2: But if you get into the like eighty percent tile like our friend Staten Island Chuck is yeah, I mean, you're you're cooking with some gas. There's probably a local TV station that needs to hire you as then they'll probably get it. And then after that they'll probably mess it all up, going, oh well, our guessing game was on until we had to do it for real.
00:32:12
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:32:12
Speaker 2: They they go all they go to all this schooling and everything else, and and they get their degrees and then they get on TV and get paid a lot of money to be at the television station all the time, especially during bad weather. And then they can't predict anything. They can they can they can predict when the coffee maker is going to be empty. That's what they can predict.
00:32:34
Speaker 3: That's about it right now. There's some fun places to travel if you're just thinking about traveling the time of the year. Have you ever been to an ice castle? Have you been to one?
00:32:43
Speaker 6: No?
00:32:44
Speaker 8: No?
00:32:45
Speaker 7: Oh?
00:32:45
Speaker 3: Man, the way that they build it. They build the ice palace up at Saranac Lake in New York so of Europe towards Lake Placid. They are still building that, so that hasn't happened yet. But some of these ice castles. They have one in Minnesota, the Edmonton, Alberta. They have two out in Colorado Cripple Creek, as well as Silverthorn both have them, and then here in the East we have the one in north Woodstock, which is really nice and that I did that one a couple of years ago and just had so much fun.
00:33:12
Speaker 1: But north Woodstock, New York, at.
00:33:16
Speaker 3: North Woodstock in New Hampshire is where that one is. All right, Yeah, that one's really nice. So I went up there. I stayed on the overnight. I met the families from there and they made sure I got over there. And it was a horse drawn carriage that was in there. They had the slides that you could do, so a lot of fun.
00:33:36
Speaker 1: Do people stay overnight in the ice castles?
00:33:41
Speaker 4: I think there are? Oh you know what.
00:33:43
Speaker 3: There was one room that was blocked off and it said that that is actually for private receptions. How about you could You probably have to look into which ice castles you can stay in.
00:33:52
Speaker 8: Then.
00:33:53
Speaker 3: The one thing I'm trying to do, and I've been trying since twenty fourteen, the last time we had the ice caves form up at at Apostle Islands, and right now they're really with ice cold as it's been. We're waiting to see whether or not the ice caves are going to form again again. Last time was twenty fourteen. We've waited twelve years and nobody's been You have to walk out there, you have to get there, and then you have to walk out about a mile on the ice for these ice caves. So I'm trying to wait on those.
00:34:22
Speaker 2: Well, the first time in a long time flash here in Cincinnati. It's been so incredibly cold, below zero cold for a good number of days. We finally got to about thirty today for a high temperature, but it's been so cold that the Ohio River actually has a thin layer of ice over it. And people still remember nineteen seventy seven when it was frozen solid enough people could walk in. Fact, somebody was driving a Volkswagen bug on the Ohio River here at Cincinnati back then and being chased off by the coast Guard or whatever.
00:35:00
Speaker 3: Were they able to go between Covington and Lawrence and back to Cincinnati.
00:35:04
Speaker 2: I guess I wasn't here then, but I've heard stories and I've seen pictures of people walking out in the middle of the river. We couldn't do it right now, but it's it's gotten pretty close because we had so many sub zero days here this day and now in the past week and a half, so I mean that's something that's something that's something.
00:35:24
Speaker 1: To see, believe me.
00:35:25
Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah, I'd like to be able to see it. But there's something about staying out in the cold that I don't like it. It's tough.
00:35:34
Speaker 1: Everything about standing out in the cold I don't like. Flash, what are you talking about?
00:35:40
Speaker 3: My favorite thing?
00:35:42
Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's always I do. I do enjoy talking to you anytime we get the opportunity. And thank you again for tonight. On Groundhog's Day, a man who is saying, if you're going to listen to any animal predicting the weather, you better listen to Staten Island Chuck on the Borough of stat Island in New York, the best percentage groundhog prognosticator.
00:36:08
Speaker 3: And he says again, that will be six more weeks of winter. So that's the best predictor right there.
00:36:14
Speaker 2: Probably not liking it, not liking it at all. All right, Flash, we will see you, We will see you on the radio, my friend. All right, thank you so much, thank you, you got it. The night Cap arrolls along on this Groundhog's Day in just moments after a break on seven hundred wlw okay to talk about groundhogs and a lot more. We have the guy that sets my show up for success every Saturday Morning. In fact, he's been there two years longer than I have here on seven hundred WLW hosting The Big Outdoors.
00:36:52
Speaker 1: It is a plethora a cornacopeia.
00:36:54
Speaker 2: It is an amazing array of cunning stunts that he does on the radio every Saturday morning at five am. For those who were up, And if you're a hunter or you fish, more than likely you are the only guy that's been on Saturday Morning is longer than I have Chip Hart on the Nightcap. Welcome mister Hart.
00:37:17
Speaker 7: Well, Gary, Jeff, you know I spent those first two years just waiting for you to come along.
00:37:24
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I mean you were delivering this huge hunting and fishing audience to Gary Burbank's Saturday morning cartoons, basically reruns of great bits that Gary had done during the week before I showed up in February of nineteen ninety seven. We're by the way, I know you showed up to our last anniversary party that we had last year. This will be twenty nine for me, thirty one for you on The Big Outdoors. Will you be showing up on February twenty first at Huddles to have a beverage and to mingle with the crowd.
00:37:58
Speaker 7: Chip, I had a blast last year, and since I've been formally invited, I think I might. I think I might.
00:38:09
Speaker 2: Well that's just that's as solid rs VP as I could ask for for a busy man like yourself.
00:38:15
Speaker 8: Well, i'll tell you what.
00:38:17
Speaker 7: I had a ball last year. I got to I got to meet all of your all of your folks, see people, and it was interesting. One I think it was, uh, who's radio Rick keep Y? Yeah, Radio Rick. He made a comment to me, he said, you know what, it's just so much fun to show up with this thing and actually get to see who it hell's on the air because it's not like TV. And and he goes, you know what, you're shorter than I thought you were. And I'm going, well, I am in a lot of different ways. Okay, But I appreciate it. And it's it's cool that even Science Mike starts this day at five.
00:39:08
Speaker 6: I was just blown away.
00:39:10
Speaker 7: I just couldn't.
00:39:10
Speaker 6: I couldn't.
00:39:11
Speaker 2: I couldn't have like, oh no, you set the table for everything else that happens on Saturday morning. And I appreciate it very much because it's a great lead in uh for that show. Now, people saying that you're shorter than they thought you were. I have had people guestimate everything from me being an overweight black mane.
00:39:36
Speaker 1: I'm serious.
00:39:37
Speaker 3: People people thought I was a pudgy blackfellow with glasses.
00:39:43
Speaker 1: I've heard.
00:39:43
Speaker 2: I've heard any number of things that, well, you're not as you're not as fat as I thought you were. And I'm like, wow, I must really sound huge on the radio.
00:39:52
Speaker 7: I don't know you're your voice sounds fat.
00:39:56
Speaker 1: Well, you know, at least there's one part of me it's still fat. Chip.
00:40:02
Speaker 7: Yeah, Hey, we don't need all those weight loss drugs.
00:40:06
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh no, g healthy one for us.
00:40:09
Speaker 7: No, man, that's because we eat healthy, we play healthy. We have no unhealthy habits like.
00:40:18
Speaker 5: We used to.
00:40:20
Speaker 1: Well, we certainly don't have all the habits we used to. I'll give you that.
00:40:24
Speaker 2: I don't know how healthy I am today, but yeah, if I was going the way I was at, you know, thirty thirty five years old, I wouldn't be here.
00:40:33
Speaker 1: I would be dead now, there's no question.
00:40:35
Speaker 7: Well, but we've had doctors to tell us to quit that stuff. But was it not the hell of a lot of fun.
00:40:42
Speaker 2: Oh it certainly was, you know, and it certainly is now. We just have directed our fun differently, say to speak to fit our age.
00:40:52
Speaker 1: We're men of Well, that's.
00:40:53
Speaker 7: Because we can't stay up as long as we used to and do the things we used to do. And boy, I miss him because life is certainly boring now.
00:41:05
Speaker 2: You know what I found as I've gotten older, those chip is boring as good. Sometimes I like uneventful.
00:41:11
Speaker 1: I really do. I appreciate that now.
00:41:13
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is. It brings a whole new state of relaxation, does it not.
00:41:19
Speaker 2: So let's get to a couple of items here. Number one, I know that you just came back from Florida. Boy, you picked a great time to go to Florida. It was in the teens this weekend, and there were iguanas freezing and falling out of trees on people's heads. Have you ever had a frozen iguana hit you in the head?
00:41:39
Speaker 7: You know I have not. And my little vacation was pre planned over six months ago. So you know, I leave town two days before Armageddon, and I had to send my wife a video on how to plows now with the tractor.
00:41:56
Speaker 5: Bucket okay, And she got it.
00:41:59
Speaker 7: She got it done. She got it done. But you know, I was hoping I would see it goings down there, falling out of the trees. I didn't. I wasn't far enough south.
00:42:09
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you what.
00:42:11
Speaker 7: The father moving to Florida until like February because it was cold. The fishing was so so because that that that Arctic blast sunk all the way to West Palm Beach and it's just shut the fish down, like you wouldn't believe. It's just they get lethargic when that water temperature down there, it's like sixty nine, sixty eight degrees, So you just got to work harder. But I had a good time with a couple of friends down there, and I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't give that time spent for anything in the world. But here I'm back in town and you're timing to holler at me with impeccable books because our deer seasons have ended for the for the for the year. And I got some great numbers for you.
00:43:05
Speaker 3: If you're interested, sure tell me about your deer hunting numbers in Ohio and elsewhere.
00:43:11
Speaker 7: Yeah, so Ohio. As yesterday we thousand white tailed deer.
00:43:20
Speaker 1: You know you broke you broke up there for a moment.
00:43:22
Speaker 7: How many thousand, two hundred and twenty eight thousand in Ohio.
00:43:28
Speaker 4: It's reason amazing it is.
00:43:31
Speaker 7: Now, look at Kentucky. We came in with one hundred and forty five thousand, four hundred and seventy seven. And for Indiana, we came in with one hundred and thirty one thousand, five hundred for the season. So I mean, you look at those three states, we're talking to half a million animals.
00:43:53
Speaker 2: Well, I mean this needs to happen too to control the populations. It's a matter of con People think of hunting sometimes if they're not engaged in it, and they don't do it as a barbaric practice. That's just about the sport of killing poor, defenseless, unarmed animals. But if you don't, then the herd, so to speak, the deer will overrun and eat all the crops and damage your trees and all those other things and get into areas where they maybe shouldn't be.
00:44:28
Speaker 1: Isn't that correct?
00:44:29
Speaker 7: Well, it's absolutely correct. And just think we just save half a million cars from accidents. Okay, no doubt, But you look at all. You know, we'll start off next dear season. Okay, we'll take the same amount of animals next year in these three states, and you throw in the other states around the Midwest, you know, and you're easily at a couple million deer. But they repopulate so quickly that it is it is. It's just it's necessary to control the populations because the landscape would be able to manage it, and there just wouldn't be enough food all the way around. So we're doing our parts for conservation.
00:45:14
Speaker 2: I live in a fairly wooded area in northern Kentucky and Southgate, and we regularly have deer right out in the yard, I mean, and moms and little fawns and the occasional buck, but usually mom and fawns, and they just go right through the yard to go to the backyard where there's a ravine and water there. They're looking for the water, sure, and I mean it's a common occurrence. Thankfully, we haven't had to mow any bambies down with our cars, and that's for insurance purposes and the lives of these animals. But if there were no deer hunting conservation, we could be overrun in a very very short time, because as you mentioned, they repopulate very well from year to year.
00:46:02
Speaker 7: Well, if you look at where we were around the turn of the century, because of market hunting, we had nearly wiped out, you know, all the white tailed deer. We certainly did a number on the bison and the elk and everything else. So it was all hunters and there and there I guess interest in seeing those those populations rejuvenated that we took a lot of years off from hunting, uh to see that happen. And here we are today with very healthy population, probably more than we had before we wiped them all out. And you know, and you mentioned that, you know, I think people are there for the beast majority. They're in favor of hunting because they certainly understand it. The ones that don't understand it are the ones that live.
00:46:58
Speaker 4: In the city.
00:46:58
Speaker 2: I saw Ted cop doing an interview on this family in Arkansas over the weekend yesterday morning actually, and Ted Copple was that typical East Coast been in New York all his life liberal who's saying, well, I warn you there are some graphic depictions of killing of animals in this scene before we start, and he's sitting there around the campfire with this family of hunters, crossing his legs, just looking superior to all of them because he doesn't kill animals. And the subject of the interview, the main subject to father, Cory Newcombe I believe was his name, said that, you know, a lot of people don't think about the animal that they're eating if they eat meat, whether it's ground b for a steak or chicken. And he was making the argument that hunting for food and for the other thing that the animals can give you is a lot more humane than some of these these you know warehouses basically where the animals are treated very very poorly in many cases and then just slaughtered that they don't have any quality of life, whereas the hunted animal is in its natural habitat, it's roaming free, and the meat that it provides is just as healthy, if not more than healthy, than what you get from the grocery store.
00:48:31
Speaker 1: You're coming, well, you.
00:48:32
Speaker 6: Brought, you brought, you brought.
00:48:33
Speaker 7: You mentioned that to me and I was on the roads. I didn't get a chance to see that broadcast, But isn't that amazing the full for a guy like him to come full circle that maybe twenty years ago. He was vehemently opposed to hunting and maybe some fishing. And all I got to say is, I think they've run out of things to cover, but uh, maybe maybe now.
00:49:02
Speaker 2: The guy was talking about the guy was talking about bear grease. They were rendering bear fat down to create bear grease, and he said that bear grease is some of the highest quality grease for cooking or anything else you use oil animal oil for and it doesn't turn rancid as quickly as other because of the components of the of the animal itself and how the grease is rendered. Have you ever used bear grease for anything?
00:49:34
Speaker 7: I have not, that doesn't mean it hasn't happened. And somebody didn't tell me when I was in the backwoods or in the rocky mountains on an elkin or something like that, I would have never thought of it, and nobody would have ever thought to bring it up. Rather just go ahead and cook and serve these guys what they need. But you know, it's animals, but their diets and their natural normal diets, And it is amazing that that something like that you wouldn't think would be so necessary or positive for uh, you know.
00:50:10
Speaker 4: For cooking, he says.
00:50:12
Speaker 2: He says that it's very pure and it's tasteless, right, and so I mean, you get the benefit of the grease, but you don't get any kind of weird gamy taste or anything else. I want to switch gears for a moment. Chip talking to Chip hard from the Great Outdoors. Today is groundhog Day. Is it legal to hunt groundhog in Ohio?
00:50:29
Speaker 7: As far as you know, it is, it's legal together considered environment virtually every state that I'm familiar with them living in that it's typically an animal that's hunted year round, but more so for the fact that that they tend to live around farms, and of course they burrow their they're burrows or under your barns, or they're in your cow pasture, and so there's always the chance that your livestock are gonna fall, you know, step in one of those groundhog holes and break the leg, or that your barn is gonna be collapsed. And that's typically why they had been hunted and are considered a barmout now. And also understanding that there are people out there that eat groundhog. I've never had it, but that was.
00:51:19
Speaker 1: My next question. Okay, so you've never had groundhog.
00:51:22
Speaker 7: No, I've never had groundhog, but I've had beaver and it's quite tasty.
00:51:27
Speaker 1: You've had what.
00:51:29
Speaker 7: You have, I've had beaver.
00:51:32
Speaker 4: With the big black How do.
00:51:34
Speaker 2: How do you?
00:51:35
Speaker 1: How do you like to prepare your beaver?
00:51:38
Speaker 7: My beaver has been cooked as a roast like a pot roast, okay, and it's absolutely delicious, delicious. But I would imagine groundhog is probably delicious too because of their diet of grass, So grass and forbs and things like that. That's what beaver eating. They're or it's delicious.
00:52:01
Speaker 2: Now you have to what's the process of deferring a beaver like, because you obviously have to get the fur off the beaver.
00:52:10
Speaker 7: Yeah, you do. You basically you have to skin it, just like any other animal. Take the hide off, okay, just like a fox or a coyote or any other fur bearing animal. And there you go, and of course you have to you have to gut it and clean it up a little bit, and then it's then it's ready for the pot. Is ready for that big old cast iron peddal with potatoes and carrots. And let's see, typically you put a use a beef bullion and then or a crock pot and shut her down for eight hours and let her go.
00:52:50
Speaker 2: If you would be so inclined and you have the ability, would you bring a beaver to the party on the twenty first? Do you have any beaver in the freezer?
00:53:05
Speaker 7: I do not, but I know someone that probably will, and I will ask him to save us a couple and I might even invite him with his croc pot. His name is John Goodula. He's a taxidermist downton Ross, Ohio. He's been trapping beaver for you know, since I've known him at least forty plus years. And you know what, that sounds like a hell of a good idea.
00:53:30
Speaker 2: You know, I never thought I'd be saying this, especially on the radio, but I believe I would like to taste John's beaver.
00:53:36
Speaker 7: Jip Well, I will let you do that, Okay, I would John Well. I can see Science Mike or Radio Rick or the Green Hornet even right tasting a little beaver. Well, even even Dick from Dayton.
00:53:56
Speaker 2: And we hope Dick will make it down from the home there in Dayton. And Dave from Harrison, I'm sure he would like to taste the beaver as well.
00:54:06
Speaker 7: Well. There's a couple of a couple of your rural folks that may have had it, may not have had it, but it's delicious all the way around. You work on that.
00:54:15
Speaker 2: You confess to me before we went on the air tonight, Chip that just before my phone call you were urinating in the snow. And I have said for years that it's a man's any man who's a real man, who's a normal man likes to pee outside. And do you find it, because that's true.
00:54:36
Speaker 7: Yes, they do, they do. My sons have been taught that they're very good at it. I can still even write my first name of the snow. Typically my stream doesn't last long enough to get in my first and last name, but since it's only eight letter, it's only eight letters, you'd think I can manage.
00:54:52
Speaker 3: That, right.
00:54:55
Speaker 2: I think this line of questioning probably is over and sadly the conversation, but it's been so good to talk to you, and thank you for taking time out right after your mini vacation to Frozen, Florida to come back to Frozen, Ohio and your compound there in Claremont County. And by the way, you said that your wife handled the tractor with the bucket to plow the snow very well while you were gone. And my first thought was, any woman that can handle living with you can probably handle the tractor.
00:55:30
Speaker 6: Well.
00:55:31
Speaker 7: If they yes, they probably well, actually they should be able to do that. Otherwise they're not they're not actually useful.
00:55:39
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, okay, she's not listening right now.
00:55:43
Speaker 7: No, she's not.
00:55:44
Speaker 2: Jiffy the Big Outdoors every Saturday for thirty one years here on seven hundred WLW five am Eastern Time, right before the Saturday morning edition. I look forward to seeing you soon, my friend, and seeing you at the end of her free party on February twenty first, all right.
00:56:03
Speaker 7: Absolutely, absolutely, thank you very much. I'm humbled, and I'll drag that beaver to the party.
00:56:08
Speaker 1: Okay, great, I look forward to it more.
00:56:10
Speaker 2: Nightcap just had sal lit Back, a Jewish conservative Hollywood filmmaker coming up in moments and before the break, A and my previous guests laughed.
00:56:24
Speaker 1: When I said, I don't know why.
00:56:25
Speaker 2: I think he was laughing because we were talking about eating beaver.
00:56:31
Speaker 1: He's he's a hunting, fishing guy.
00:56:34
Speaker 2: And then I said, up next, Jewish conservative, conservative Hollywood filmmaker sal lit Back, and we wondered if Beaver was kosher. But that's as far as we got into the conversation. So here he is Sal Lipback, who is the man who made the movie called Guns and Moses. It's on Prime right now and we can talk a little bit about that first. But Sal, how are you.
00:56:59
Speaker 6: It's great to be with you.
00:57:01
Speaker 9: We're living in crazy times, every day crazier, but thank god, there's insane people in this country and it's good to speak with.
00:57:08
Speaker 7: One of them.
00:57:08
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:57:09
Speaker 2: Guns and Moses rated the based the best faith based movie of the year. Give us kind of a synopsis of what Guns and Moses is all about.
00:57:19
Speaker 9: So in a small high desert town there's there's a rabbi, beloved pacific rabbi in his community, and a murder happens, his community comes under attack.
00:57:32
Speaker 6: The police think they've got the murderer.
00:57:35
Speaker 9: Instantly, it doesn't smell right to the rabbi, so he investigates, and as he gets closer to the truth, the danger level skyrockets.
00:57:43
Speaker 6: He's got to learn how to use a firearm properly.
00:57:46
Speaker 9: Effectively, and as he gets closer to the truth, you know, he's got to confront some heavyweight bad guys and he and he does what he has to do to move about. Jews under attack, Who Fight Back starring Mark Foyerstein, the legendary Christopher Lloyd, Neil McDonough, Dermot mulroney, Ja Busey, great cast.
00:58:06
Speaker 6: You know, there was a time when.
00:58:07
Speaker 9: Faith based movies were cheesy. Let's just be straight up and honest about that. Yeah, and those days are pasted. There's wonderful movies now that are telling stories with real values.
00:58:20
Speaker 6: Not something that godless Hollywood would never make, but with the quality.
00:58:25
Speaker 9: Level and the entertainment level of any slick Hollywood thriller, it's great that there's good programming now for.
00:58:32
Speaker 6: People that have traditional values.
00:58:35
Speaker 9: You should sacrifice any entertainment value in order to get a movie that is consistent with your values.
00:58:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:58:42
Speaker 2: I love Neil McDonough. He's a very outspoken man of faith in Hollywood, yep. And he's making all kinds of great movies. I've seen him as a very very bad man and stuff he was in. I remember when he was in Justified, which my wife and I loved that series.
00:59:02
Speaker 6: Timothy, I mean, he's great, he was great, such a good actor.
00:59:06
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's such a pro.
00:59:08
Speaker 9: But he often gets cast as bad guy as a bad guy because early on in his career he made a decision, for the glory of God that he wasn't going to kiss a woman who's.
00:59:16
Speaker 7: Not his wife.
00:59:17
Speaker 6: That led to a lot of bad guy roles.
00:59:20
Speaker 9: Happy to say, in our movie, he gets to play more of a mentor and obi wan kenobi, you know, really training the rabbis, he not only becomes a gunfighter but also a public figure.
00:59:31
Speaker 6: The movie was it's not based on.
00:59:33
Speaker 9: A true story, but it was inspired by a shooting at a synagogue of Haabad Synagogue in Poway, California. I went down the next day attended the funeral of the woman, Lord Gilbert k who was murdered there, and and I interviewed Rabbi Goldstein from my Jewish wisdom platform, accidental Talmudist, and then I watched him become a public figure in the.
00:59:54
Speaker 6: Ensuing days, and that was part of the inspiration for the movie.
00:59:58
Speaker 9: Also my own training in a Jewish security organization called magan Am, where we learned how to handle a firearm effectively safely. We have to pass qualifications at are more difficult than FBI agents, and please God, we should never need such skills.
01:00:16
Speaker 6: But if we do, we will not be a soft target.
01:00:19
Speaker 2: How severe is anti Semitism in this country today in twenty twenty six.
01:00:24
Speaker 4: So it's real, it's absolutely why it's real.
01:00:30
Speaker 9: You've got people shouting it on the streets in a way that was not imaginable to us twenty or thirty years ago. My grandmother was a Holocaust survivor who carried my mother as an infant through a concentration camp. Absolute miracle story, and that Hungarian side of the family would always say, don't think that it can't happen here, it could happen anywhere.
01:00:52
Speaker 6: And we knew where she was coming from. We said, yeah, Grandma, we understand, but we didn't really believe her. But now, you know, you've got people that.
01:01:00
Speaker 9: Will just blame the Jews for anything, and they're just so stupid. I mean, like the same kind of people who are protesting in the streets were interfering with ice operations, who were chanting from the River to the sea, Palestine will be free, and who were out in numbers and very skimpy clothing at the Grammy Awards last night, and you know, prefacing all their remarks with ice out and whatever else they're saying, but not a word was said about Iran, where actual people are protesting in the streets getting killed in huge numbers to try to take their country back from a toxic, oppressive, colonizing force that took over their country in nineteen seventy nine, the Islamic Republic made of the Moo laws, you know, absolute tyrants who coordinated with communist students in order to take over and killed off those students to absolutely consolidate their power.
01:02:05
Speaker 6: That's going on in the world right now.
01:02:07
Speaker 9: And you know, we don't know what the numbers are because it's such an oppressive regime has no information flow out of the country. But I think minimum thirty thousand, and some are saying as much as eighty thousand people have been killed. And these are young people protesting in the streets, trying to take their country back, and none of the so called, you know, people sticking up for the little guy in our country are saying anything about it.
01:02:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the ICE so called protesters in Minneapolis haven't been subjected to machine guns just mowing them down for standing outside a detention center, which and having all kinds of things hurled at these ICE agents. And yet they've shown great restraint, in my opinion, compared to what they are facing.
01:02:58
Speaker 6: Incredible restraint. I mean, can you They're not trained for that, right.
01:03:02
Speaker 9: They're trained to gather round up criminals who enter the country illegally, often guilty much greater crimes than that, and.
01:03:09
Speaker 6: Get them the heck out. That's what they're trained to do.
01:03:12
Speaker 9: Confronting these crowds is an incredibly difficult job. And all these idiots who are comparing them to Nazis and goon squads, etc.
01:03:22
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something.
01:03:23
Speaker 9: The Nazis, who was never part of their job description to throw people out of their country.
01:03:28
Speaker 6: That's not what they were doing. They were rounding up people and killing them, and that has never been ICE's job. It's just a ridiculous comparison.
01:03:37
Speaker 9: But it's fashionable in Hollywood, so they all go with it so they can get invited to the right cocktail parties.
01:03:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:03:43
Speaker 2: I just saw a little bit of the Grammys. I chose not to watch. I always look for the immemorial thing. This is a sick part of me. I want to look at the dead people who died last night. So I always try and make sure I see that part of any of these award shows or completely the rest. But they were showing some clips this morning and Billie Eilish accepting her a Road award and the old tired line of no one is illegals. Well, if if you commit a crime, aren't you kind of illegal? That was my first reaction to that. But yeah, the ice out stuff, all all everything you'd expect from that particular community, the pearl clus virtue signaling Hollywood elites.
01:04:32
Speaker 6: I wonder if you know.
01:04:33
Speaker 9: Like a group of migrants moved into Billie Eilish's house, how fast you'd be saying, get these illegals out of my house.
01:04:40
Speaker 6: What do you mean illegal?
01:04:40
Speaker 9: Nobody's illegal, But they're not supposed to be in my house. Why they're not supposed to be your house because it's my house. You're saying it's illegal to be in your house. Well, of course, I know.
01:04:51
Speaker 1: They never they never forget.
01:04:52
Speaker 2: You know, you were talking about the obvious genocide that it's occurring in Iran right now, because the the Ayatola and the mullassert are really I mean, they're backed into a corner. They're a wounded animal, and that's the most dangerous time to deal with anyone. And you mentioned too since nineteen seventy nine when they took over the Iranian Revolution happened and they attacked America, took over our embassy, which the last thing I knew about international law, that is, that's American soil, that embassy.
01:05:31
Speaker 3: You know, we.
01:05:34
Speaker 2: Have been have been at war. Iran has been at war with us. The radical Islamist in charge in Iran have been at war with Us since nineteen seventy nine, and we just never have really responded. And I always scratched my head and wonder why, you know what I mean, we as a country, they took our citizens hostage, they took over American soil, and we still have not done anything really about it that any other country might have done if they had the might and the wherewithal that America does.
01:06:09
Speaker 6: I think they've done much more than that.
01:06:11
Speaker 9: I mean, this has been the number one state sponsor of terror around the world for decades.
01:06:17
Speaker 3: Uh oh.
01:06:18
Speaker 2: Our soldiers in Iraq, Our soldiers in Iraq that died from IEDs, those are paid for and provided by Iran in that regime.
01:06:26
Speaker 9: Absolutely, you've got bot farms that are doing all kinds of damage online, spreading their propaganda.
01:06:34
Speaker 6: So much of what's going on. American academia is funded by who?
01:06:40
Speaker 3: You know?
01:06:40
Speaker 6: Is it by Cutter? Is it Iran? Is it a combination. They are constantly trying to, you.
01:06:47
Speaker 9: Know, undermine our morale, right, and it starts by teaching young.
01:06:53
Speaker 6: People America is bad, America is wicked. You should be siding with who.
01:06:59
Speaker 10: I mean, there are people carrying signs in New York City saying I stand with the Islamic Republic of Iran as a way of protesting against America and getting cheered on by young people.
01:07:14
Speaker 6: I mean, it's insane, It is absolutely insane.
01:07:18
Speaker 9: All these people they must be leftists, right, they must have the values of you know, pro women, women's rights, et cetera.
01:07:25
Speaker 6: There's no women's rights in Iran.
01:07:27
Speaker 1: There's no gay rights.
01:07:28
Speaker 9: There's no voter freedoms, no gay rights, nothing like that.
01:07:33
Speaker 6: I mean, you go out of your house not wearing a black bag over your head. You're in serious trouble in Iran.
01:07:40
Speaker 9: And that was a beautiful, cosmopolitan country in the past, and it was never an Islamic country.
01:07:46
Speaker 6: It was colonized by political Islam. You know, that country has a long and proud history, was the Persian Empire and They've just.
01:07:55
Speaker 9: Been completely taken over by that toxic ideology, and now that people are trying to free themselves of.
01:08:02
Speaker 6: It, I just wonder what President Trump is going to do. That guy is always playing for d chess.
01:08:10
Speaker 9: Whatever he's saying, whatever he's just making the leftist freak out about today, is not what he's really planning to do tomorrow. He has sent a huge armada into that part of the world, and I don't think he's going to leave those people hanging. I think that what he's doing is maneuvering behind the scenes to see what will the new regime be. He needs a partner for a regime change to happen, and I have no idea what's happening over there.
01:08:34
Speaker 3: Well, this is just what I'm imagining, Salidveck.
01:08:37
Speaker 2: It's a totally different situation, obviously, because Venezuela is in our hemisphere. But that operation to get Maduro out was planned four months and there was not any indication that we were about to do that. When we did it, I would say that the President was waiting for those resources to get in place in the Middle e. He's the the you know, the armada, the battleships and everything when you know, three weeks ago, four weeks ago, he was asked if we were gonna, you know, attack Iran militarily. He's not going to show his hand. You're right, he's always playing multi level chess and uh, the left and the enemies most often are playing checkers.
01:09:23
Speaker 1: And it's probably the same way again with Iran.
01:09:28
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I wanted to Uh.
01:09:31
Speaker 2: You mentioned New York City is the new mayor zorn Mom Donnie proving to be you know, he speaks publicly saying that any sentiment, any sentiment is is sent God, what what's wrong with me? Semitism is unacceptable in New York City. Do his actions match up to his word or at least his past actions and professions?
01:10:05
Speaker 4: Of course not.
01:10:06
Speaker 9: Of course, this is a guy who was in those pro Palestine protests and from the River to the sea talking. Recently there was a terrible protest, you know, champion for the death of Jews outside of a synagogue.
01:10:20
Speaker 6: He's not going to stop that.
01:10:22
Speaker 4: This guy can't.
01:10:23
Speaker 6: He has no competence people around him.
01:10:26
Speaker 9: Right as now that there's a huge snowfall, could weave the garbage isn't getting picked up.
01:10:32
Speaker 6: This guy doesn't know how to run a city. The people that he's put into.
01:10:35
Speaker 9: Office are not there because of their experience and there because of their ideology.
01:10:41
Speaker 6: And I think people are going.
01:10:42
Speaker 9: To be amazed just how fast his administration just falls into absolute.
01:10:48
Speaker 6: Terror that they don't know how to run things.
01:10:51
Speaker 9: Now, like you talked about, the wounded animal in Iran is a very dangerous animal. I mean, who knows what the people around him are going to do when they realized they can't run the city.
01:11:03
Speaker 7: You know, there was I was.
01:11:04
Speaker 9: I'm a very grateful American. I'm an American citizen. I came here legally as an immigrant from Chile when I was a kid, and we came because I turned My mother's side of the family was Hungarian.
01:11:16
Speaker 6: They had ended up in Chile. On my father's side, we'd been in Chile for a few generations.
01:11:21
Speaker 9: And then Chile elected a Communist president and my father when he was in college, you know, he was.
01:11:28
Speaker 4: A young guy.
01:11:29
Speaker 9: He had socialist ideas and he was very confident, and he was an engineer, but he was young and he was asked to take an important position in that new communist government.
01:11:41
Speaker 6: He came home he said to my mother, we're out. We're leaving this country right now.
01:11:46
Speaker 9: Why, he said, because if they're asking me to run that department, they have nobody who knows what the hell are.
01:11:53
Speaker 4: They have no idea.
01:11:56
Speaker 6: This country's going to fall apart.
01:11:58
Speaker 4: And it did.
01:11:58
Speaker 9: It fell apart very quick. And then there was a military coup and a dictatorship took over and actually got the trains running on time, so to speak. And then through one of the miracle stories of modern times, that that dictator Pinochet step down. That never happens, you know, like it never happens that a dictator willingly gives up power. That eventually did happen. But the relevant part of the story is that when communists get in with their socialist ideas and all their promises, and then they actually get power, they have no idea.
01:12:31
Speaker 6: How to use it.
01:12:33
Speaker 9: And then either they just lose the power that's the good option, or they consolidate their power run the country into the ground. And that was Chaviz and Maduro, you.
01:12:42
Speaker 6: Know, absolutely destroyed Venezuela. And now maybe that country has a chance to make a comeback.
01:12:47
Speaker 2: Well hopefully. So yeah, yeah, I think about Chichescu in Romania. I mean, they it took them hanging him for him to step down out of power. You're right, yes, yes, the dictators. The dictators never just bow out gracefully, so to speak, guns and Moses. It's it's modern day, right, It's not a period piece, correct.
01:13:12
Speaker 6: But it does play a bit like a Western.
01:13:15
Speaker 9: It's in the high desert and a place where many Westerns were shot.
01:13:19
Speaker 6: And something I was very conscious of when I was.
01:13:21
Speaker 9: Directing the movie that you know, you know what a Western looks like, right, the hills and the saloons and the horses, the covered wagons, the corrals, and in those same areas of our country now, strip malls, solar farms, power lines, minivans, and we don't even see those things because they're so ubiquitous in our culture. But I shot this movie in a way to capture what America looks like in twenty twenty five, because one hundred years from now it'll look different. And these items that we see in our landscape now are icon, you know, and you can have.
01:13:58
Speaker 6: A Western set in our world that delivers in every way.
01:14:04
Speaker 1: Did you do shooting on location?
01:14:06
Speaker 9: So yes, yeah, we shot on location in Santa Luisa, California. Our main actor, Mark Ployers seemed an incredible job. Went through the same firearms training that I went through in my organization. Maganam, did you.
01:14:22
Speaker 1: Ever think about hiring Alec bold One?
01:14:28
Speaker 9: Oh my god, let me tell you something that was a problem for us because we shot our movie not long after that terrible accident happened on his movie set, and it just you know, we made an action thriller and we shot it in twenty days, and we did an incredible job because the cast and crew were so generous and dedicated and devoted to what we were trying to do, working very long hours.
01:14:51
Speaker 6: But we were very safety.
01:14:53
Speaker 9: Conscious on set, and most directors don't have the kind of firearms experience that I have, and like so I added this step that any firearm that came on the set how to be shown to me first before I went to the actor's hands. And everything was fine, But a lot of law enforcement and veterans have commented to me, like, you know, you never see actual firearms learning in a movie, right, Like when a guy in a movie has to learn how to shoot, he puts five teen cans on a fence, he.
01:15:21
Speaker 6: Misses the first, he hits the next floor.
01:15:23
Speaker 9: Suddenly he's a dead shot, Like that's not the real world at all, and we show what it's really like to learn how to use a firearm and to use it effectively.
01:15:33
Speaker 6: And people love that.
01:15:34
Speaker 2: The filmmaker is Sal Lidvack, our guest. The movie is Guns and Moses. It's on Prime right now, easy to see, and I'm looking forward to watching.
01:15:43
Speaker 3: Sal.
01:15:43
Speaker 1: Thanks for the time tonight.
01:15:45
Speaker 6: It's great to be with you. Keep up the great work.
01:15:47
Speaker 4: We need you at your post, all right, brother, take care.
01:15:52
Speaker 2: Coming up at eleven o'clock Michael Lets from invest USA Law Enforcement ICE with a big target on their back and some thoughts on how we get that target off of their back. Honest people doing a legal job enforcing the laws of this country. It's a nightcap on seven hundred WLW on seven hundl W, Groundhog Day all over again, especially when it comes to what Congress is doing or isn't doing. Man, what a mess by the people that are supposed to work for us. Incredible, And the ICE protests continue in Minneapolis. I don't know how much longer this kind of stuff is being tolerated, especially since a judge last night says that the Trump administration and ICE have every right to go and get illegal criminals out of the country, to arrest them, to apprehend them and process them as is needed. So the courts on side, the court of public opinion, maybe not so much right now because of some high profile deaths that have happened, and that's understandable, I would guess until you look a little bit deeper into who's behind these protests and the like and the threats made against law enforcement, particularly ICE of eight thousand percent in the last six months. To talk about that and a lot more, Michael Lets from invest USA joining us again on the nightcap.
01:17:29
Speaker 1: Michael good evening, how are you.
01:17:32
Speaker 8: Oh well, always a privilege to be within you, Gary. We thank you for the opportunity, and yeah, we've been busing us for sure.
01:17:38
Speaker 1: No, yeah, no doubt about it.
01:17:40
Speaker 2: One of the things that the Democrats have said if they're going to fund DHS Department of Homeland Security, which of course oversees ICE, is there are three things really requiring a warrant to go and get any illegal criminal wherever they happen to be. They're on the streets of Minneapolis or in the jails anywhere without the participation or cooperation of local law enforcement. By these sanctuary state and city laws, which, by the way, federal law supersedes them under the supremacy clause. But Michael, a warrant, requiring a warrant to get someone you know who has committed a crime.
01:18:24
Speaker 1: Why is that? Why is that not necessary? In your opinion?
01:18:29
Speaker 2: If you think it is, you can go ahead and say so, we're going to pick each one of these three major sticking points that the Democrats have to fund DHS in the new budget for the next fiscal year. So why not get a warrant if you're going to go after a criminal illegal alien?
01:18:47
Speaker 5: It's not necessary? You say, why it is not necessary? Let's follow the pattern.
01:18:51
Speaker 8: This is why you can be so frustrating with the mainstream media or the Democrats because they never explained their positions. See rot Tall and he the ilimgrant, who's come here and who's committed a crime. Now there's already been an indictment, there has already been a warrant, there's already been the service of a warrant, there's already been arrest because he's already a uh indicted or convicted. Usually it is just an indicted criminal, right.
01:19:21
Speaker 1: Right, So the warrant, the warrant done. Yeah, the warrant has already been issued.
01:19:25
Speaker 8: Okay, that's correct, all right, So what they're asking is for you to get a second warrant to tell him you're going to go pick him up because of the fact that he is still out on the street from the First War, which he shouldn't be.
01:19:38
Speaker 5: Out on the street to begin with.
01:19:41
Speaker 8: I mean, the ludicrocy of the of their thinking is just beyond me here. They don't understand law. But yet, remember these are our lawmakers.
01:19:49
Speaker 2: Really, if there are warrants in the case of a citizen who happens to have committed a crime and had a warrant issued for his arrest, you don't have to go to the judge to pick him up off the street, because the warrant's already been issued.
01:20:04
Speaker 1: He has warrants out against them.
01:20:06
Speaker 2: And they pick him up every day in Cincinnati and anywhere across the country. I bet they pick him up every day in Minneapolis. If they're a natural born American citizen and they've had a warrant issued for their arrest, you don't have to go to the judge and get a second warrant or a third warrant to get them.
01:20:25
Speaker 5: It's crazy.
01:20:25
Speaker 8: What they're at tuchi to do is they're trying to obstruct justice. They are trying to create an area. Do that makes you feel sorry? Oh, they're picking these people without warrants.
01:20:36
Speaker 5: Would you be honest.
01:20:37
Speaker 8: They've already had a war issue. That's why they've got an arrest record. That's why we know they're a criminal. They've already had a warrn issue. They're back out on the street, probably because the judge said, oh, I don't have time to mess with this, or we're too crowded to day. Put him back on the street. When his trial comes up, he can come back in. Then that's not acceptable. He's already had a warning. If you were just they're picking them up off the street, we should have been done the first time around.
01:21:03
Speaker 1: They know who these people are.
01:21:06
Speaker 5: Exactly.
01:21:07
Speaker 2: They know exactly who they are, and in many cases, they know where they are. But if local authorities aren't letting them or letting them know that they have them in their facilities, they're obstructing justice and they're creating the chaos and panic that you're seeing out in the streets. In Minneapolis, they just conducted and arrested more than six hundred illegal aliens who had committed criminal acts in West Virginia. Did you see any protests in West Virginia to see the chaos in the streets. Do you see ICE officers being threatened, being spat upon, having their tay lights kicked out, being run over by cars in West Virginia? No, because the authorities in West Virginia cooperated with ICE. This sanctuary city, sanctuary state eight nonsense is just that, and it is getting people killed.
01:22:04
Speaker 8: It already has, it has and seen. Here's what they haven't explained. Let's talk about this sanctuary city junk for just a minute.
01:22:12
Speaker 5: You see this.
01:22:12
Speaker 8: Happened in the eighteen hundreds. It's called the succession from the States, the South versus the North. I don't recognize your federal law. I'm not going to implement it. We're going to do our own thing. That didn't work out too well, did it. This is the same situation here you've got democratic city. I've decided I'm not rejecting all federal law. But it doesn't make any difference whether they reject one or ten pieces of it. You've rejected it same principle. I don't like your law. We're going to reject it. We're not going to do it here. It's illegal, it's unconstitutional.
01:22:42
Speaker 5: And this is what we're pushing the administration for.
01:22:45
Speaker 8: You know, if they want to act that way before we decide to get really aggressive with it, just turn off all their fund and fine, you don't think you should have to buy BIGGA federal well, but surely you shouldn't ask for any money from the Fed, whether it's roads, whether it's food programs, whether it's medical. Yeah, whatever it is, don't your people shouldn't get anything because you don't believe you should be a part of the federal government.
01:23:05
Speaker 1: Right, And I think that's perfectly acceptable.
01:23:08
Speaker 2: I think if they want to go on their own in one regard, they can go on their own all the way.
01:23:14
Speaker 3: They don't have to be a part of the United States. Go ahead and seceed Minnesota, go ahead exactly.
01:23:20
Speaker 8: That's our position right now, and that's what the President has pushed back. They seem to be trying to portray that, oh, Minnesota got somewhere, they got the President's attention.
01:23:29
Speaker 5: Marry Tom Holme when and you know, we're really rallied their cages.
01:23:33
Speaker 8: Ash is the exact opposite. We've just locked down Tom's a great friend. Tom's a great guy, and Tom's just basically when Yarn told him, fine here who we're at. We're not leaving until we get what we want. We've picked up ten thousand, get this geared ten thousand illegal criminals off the streets so far. We estimate we have another twenty five hundred and three thousand. You do what the law requires you to do, and that is cooperate with us. We'll be out of here shortly because we'll complete the mission and you don't. We're going to say as long as necessary to complete the mission.
01:24:06
Speaker 5: And by the way, I would give you more money either.
01:24:09
Speaker 1: And Michael Letts, here's the other thing.
01:24:11
Speaker 2: If they cooperate and they let ice know where the criminal aliens are illegal aliens are, then you don't. You don't have a five year old boy picked up in a sweep and taken to a detention center.
01:24:27
Speaker 1: You don't.
01:24:27
Speaker 2: You don't have any of this, which is the narrative. On the other side, they're rounding up people. They're coming into people's homes who are American citizens. Well, they may have a they may have an asylum case pending, but anyway, you don't have a five year old child being taken away and having to be sent back to Minnesota if you don't have have these these street raids that are the only way to get the illegal criminals out because Minnesota has left Ice and border patrol no other choice.
01:25:06
Speaker 8: They're exactly right, you're here, here's the situation, so that our listeners could clearly understand it in these particular situations. You know, it's never been the roll of Ice to be what we call foot patrol, to go out on the streets.
01:25:21
Speaker 3: The roll of.
01:25:22
Speaker 8: Ice is to be there at the detention centers, pick up the illegals that are here, take them to federal custody, process them, deport them, whatever they say.
01:25:32
Speaker 5: That's the way it's supposed to work.
01:25:34
Speaker 8: Okay, we're not supposed to be going door to door out there trying to arrest somebody who's already got a warrant. And remember that gets back to the warrant issue on the issue with the five year old. I was gonna get prey told down. Here's what happens. We go in Now we're having to go in to the situation. Well, we go in to pick up John and there's four other criminal illegal immigrants with warrants.
01:25:57
Speaker 5: So we've got to pick up all five.
01:25:59
Speaker 8: Now they've also got a five year old boy sitting there, So I'm gonna pick up all five.
01:26:03
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do?
01:26:04
Speaker 5: Leave the boy? Hey, I hope you don't have to lock the door, and you know, yeah, your own. I mean, I don't know where your parents are at. I don't even know if you have parents. I don't know anything about you.
01:26:13
Speaker 1: But you're not on the list.
01:26:14
Speaker 5: So here at the TV control have had a kid.
01:26:17
Speaker 11: Yeah.
01:26:17
Speaker 2: The only time that home alone is funny if it's a movie and it's macaulay cockin otherwise, home alone is not a good idea for a five year old, and they are left with no choice but to pick him up too.
01:26:32
Speaker 8: Exactly, we have to. We have we've got going to leave him on his own for him to get something bad, to have it to so we have to bring him along. So now we get criticized actually cared for the child seriously.
01:26:42
Speaker 2: So here, here's the other thing that Democrats want to fund DHS. They want the ICE agents to be unmasked. And the reason that they're calling for the ICE agents to be unmasked is so that they can be docked people can go to their homes, harass their families, threaten their families, threaten them for doing their job. That's the why, and here's my solution, Michael. The Republicans should say, Okay, you want ICE officers to be unmasked. Number one, all your protesters are unable to wear a mask either.
01:27:22
Speaker 1: Number two.
01:27:24
Speaker 2: Number two, if the unmasking of an ICE agent leads you to dos them, to stalk them, to cause them harm or the threat of harm to them or their family, it's an automatic sentence of no less than five years in federal prison and a fine of no less than a fifty thousand or one hundred thousand dollars fine. You want to dox them and put them in harm's way, well you're libel legally for that. That's not a matter of the First Amendment and free speech doxing law enforcement agents. So I mean, if you made that trade off and you started prosecuting people for doxing ICE agents or threatening them or their families, then maybe there wouldn't be any need to have the masks.
01:28:12
Speaker 1: Yes or no.
01:28:14
Speaker 8: You're execuated the masker for one reason, and that's to protect the identity.
01:28:18
Speaker 5: And so it's not just the officer. It's what you said, what you alluded to. They're not just going after the officer, then going after his kids.
01:28:27
Speaker 8: Who would want to have a job.
01:28:29
Speaker 5: To put your kids in jeopardy?
01:28:31
Speaker 8: You see, now we're uncovering the truth here. The truth is they want to destroy law enforcement period. They want us to be a lawless society. Well, you know what, there's plenty of other places.
01:28:43
Speaker 5: Around the world that are lawless.
01:28:45
Speaker 8: Tell me where you want to go with help you get a ticket and get out of here.
01:28:48
Speaker 5: You don't belong in this country to begin with.
01:28:51
Speaker 2: Well, the other thing, the third tenant of this, I mean this is not the crazy far left law makers who are calling for defunding ICE completely or getting rid of ICE. The third thing that they want to fully fund DHS is for these officers to wear body cameras. Now I'm saying I don't have really a big problem with that.
01:29:17
Speaker 6: Do you.
01:29:19
Speaker 3: No?
01:29:19
Speaker 5: And quite frankly the officers don't. But understand this.
01:29:25
Speaker 8: What you are doing now when I say you, I'm talking about the protesters, is you're attacking our officers. A camera just makes it more cumbersome dealble for us to be able to do our job. If we're going to be involved in what we call hand to hand combat.
01:29:40
Speaker 5: Cameras is not what I need. He just gets in my way. So are you going to So here's my pushpective.
01:29:46
Speaker 8: Sure the officers don't mind wearing the cameras if we're doing our job.
01:29:50
Speaker 5: Remember, our job is not to be foot patrol.
01:29:53
Speaker 8: That's city and local police. If you're going to do a bude by the constitution to do the law, have your people go in and arrest these criminals who committed crimes in your jurisdiction members not the fads, your jurisdiction, and then bring them to the jail system and then decide is this crime so bad we're gonna lock them up and we want to try them here, or no, we don't have enough room for them and they're illegal, so let's turn them over to the face.
01:30:20
Speaker 5: And that's if you do it that way.
01:30:22
Speaker 8: No officer would have objection to the cameras. The reason why he gets a pushback on a cameras is you want to advocate them having hand to hand combat with us on a day to day basis, Well, don't be giving more stuff to get in my way to be able to control the situation. If you're not going to provide any more support for me.
01:30:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not trained, as you said, to do foot patrols or crowd control, and they're not supposed to be doing hand to hand combat. You know, that's again not the job description. But I think that to body cameras on these ice officers one thing it would do. It would show how literally insane these people are who are attacking them and threatening them. You know I would, And you know at that point, yeah, we want to see exactly what you're doing to these officers. Well, they're trying to do a perfectly legal job enforcing the law.
01:31:17
Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting to the people may chargument. Well, you know the Constitution guarantees the right to protest.
01:31:26
Speaker 5: No, it doesn't.
01:31:28
Speaker 8: Constitution guarantees are right to freedom for peaceful assemblies. When you start standing, you know, within a fraction of an end, spitting in an office space, pushing on him, you way across the line.
01:31:42
Speaker 5: That's not guaranteed and protected by the Constitution.
01:31:45
Speaker 8: But sometow the mainstream media wants you to believe that. And that's why I love what you said. If they want to really see the negative for us from a law fortandpoint. You could already see that. If you go to TikTok, you go to you do, you can see what they do. How could were allow him to continue to do it and not do anying about it?
01:32:02
Speaker 2: Well, you know, if Alex Pretty had been arrested eleven days before his death for spitting on the ice officers and for kicking out the tail light, which which, by the way, if he was if he had his legally owned firearm on him when he did that, he was committing a federal felony. If he'd been arrested, he'd probably be alive today.
01:32:27
Speaker 8: He would be no question the fact that he determined to do what he did legally, because when he went in and carried his farm without ID and without his credentials, he broke them all.
01:32:40
Speaker 2: Well, carrying a firearm should be legal for any citizen, unless it's it's like I talked to somebody last night. You go into a bank and you've got a legal firearm in but then you tell the teller that she needs to give you all the money. At that point, it's not legal for you to have the gun anymore. It's you know, it's pretty simple, and.
01:33:00
Speaker 8: You know it's interything. Hell, the way it works now, talk about from a law standpoint, you can carry We have no issue with it, but you have to have ideas so we know who you are.
01:33:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else?
01:33:13
Speaker 8: He had no idea. No, he deliberately left everything home because he knew what he was doing. He knew he was going to get into this couple.
01:33:21
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was premeditated. There's no question about that, Michael, no question.
01:33:25
Speaker 1: Michael.
01:33:25
Speaker 2: Lets any last words for folks, anything else you want to let people know before we go?
01:33:31
Speaker 5: Definitely? Definitely.
01:33:32
Speaker 8: So first of all, I want to say thank you Gary for making it so abundantly clear to the listeners. This is what's really going on, not what mainstream media is trying to tell you, you know, I mean choke. Schumer asked Tom the questions that you raised, so you're going to do away with their Masters Center.
01:33:49
Speaker 5: Tom just looked at him. I told him, very boltingly his face, No, are you a cop? Have you ever been there? Do you know what it's like to have your children threatened because of when jog are trying to do? Absolutely die? Now, Chug got mad?
01:34:03
Speaker 9: Good?
01:34:04
Speaker 5: I hope he gets mad. Hope he gets so bad he resigns from the Senate. Never gonna happen.
01:34:08
Speaker 8: But I mean he should be resigning or he should be voted out one.
01:34:14
Speaker 5: But here's what I want to say. Thank you for presenting the truth.
01:34:19
Speaker 8: Because Americans, look, law enforcement is not the problem. Law enforcement are there to protect you. If we all decided that this is not worth it, and quite frankly, some days we feel that way, this is not worth it, we're going to all turn on our badges. How long do you think America will survive without law enforcement? A dead an out, that's not where this country needs to go. People need to abide by the law.
01:34:44
Speaker 5: Or I don't like the law. Great, that's why we have a constitution.
01:34:47
Speaker 8: Go to Congress and tell him the change it. You got the support forget him to change it. You'll get your way. But until it's changed, we all are. So this is a nation of law. We're all subject to abide by it, and so do the right thing. It's very simple, how we saw these pups. Just do the right thing America and quit getting off on all these tangents. But these leftist liberals would have you to believe it somehow you're making a positive difference by destroying the very moral and fiber of this country, which.
01:35:16
Speaker 5: Is our backgone, which is our loss and fun. Bless you, God, bless America.
01:35:19
Speaker 1: God bless you.
01:35:20
Speaker 2: Michael lets Invest USA is his organization. Look it up, check it out, and stick around. Wild Man Walker coming up in just a few minutes to close out tonight's show. Yeah, be dead time again, be that time you get wild on the nightcap with the original sports commando, wild Man Walker joining us on this Groundhog Day again.
01:35:45
Speaker 1: You know it's Groundhog Day.
01:35:46
Speaker 2: I just had my friend Flash Phelps from a serious exam on earlier. He's been to all fifty states and all but one hundred and eighty two counties in the country and driving most of the way, except of course, Hawaii. But he he was running down the different groundhogs and sir their success rate. Puxyton of phil you know, the one everybody points to in Pennsylvania, Puckstowny, Pennsylvania was only he saw his shadows, so that means no early spring. He's only right thirty seven percent of the time. However, wild Man Staten Island Chuck who has the greatest percentage of all of the animal predictors. He has like eighty percent accurate. Said it will also be a longer winter, so we've got more of this garbage to put up with.
01:36:38
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?
01:36:41
Speaker 11: Do you rely on two animals, two creatures to tell you about the weather. I'll just look outside and deal with it. Well, you know, there's nothing you can do about it.
01:36:52
Speaker 2: In Des Moines, Iowa, listen, in Des Moines, Iowa, they've got a woman who dresses up as a groundhog who predicts the web there.
01:37:01
Speaker 1: In the state case.
01:37:02
Speaker 11: She's not out when you know, when she's not out protesting against ice, I guess yeah.
01:37:09
Speaker 1: No doubt. Oh you holding up?
01:37:12
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm doing fine. I'm doing fine.
01:37:15
Speaker 3: Good, good, good, Well, there's lots of fun on ice, at least. Last night in the NHL, the the outdoor stadium game with Tampa Bay winning again in a shootout.
01:37:28
Speaker 4: Right, well, the game was outstanding, the NHL stadium game.
01:37:33
Speaker 11: And this was the NHL. This was great for the NHL. This game had everything. Boston went up at one time five to one on the lightning and then because Boston's took some stupid penalties, they came back and won the game in a shootout. And on top of this we had a goalie fight, only the second goalie fight. And I think in the last fourteen.
01:37:52
Speaker 4: Years there.
01:37:55
Speaker 1: Are opposite ends of the ice. How are the goalies getting in a fight?
01:38:00
Speaker 4: And well they saw he Well the one.
01:38:02
Speaker 11: The Boston Bruins goalie took exception to one of the Tampa Bay players coming in low on him and trying to swipe at him. And then he looked up and he saw the Tampa Bay goal They kind.
01:38:11
Speaker 4: Of move up and he said, okay, you want to me.
01:38:14
Speaker 11: So he just a cruise down the ice and threw down his blocker, threw up his pad, his glove, and so let's go. It was a good battle. It was a good battle. Fact, it woke up. It woke up Tampa Bay.
01:38:26
Speaker 1: It really did.
01:38:26
Speaker 11: That fight woke up Tampa Bay. And every player will tell you that. And the players are banging on the boards and laughing.
01:38:33
Speaker 9: It was.
01:38:33
Speaker 4: It was great. I mean, the announcers really getting into it in the crowd.
01:38:37
Speaker 11: Like I said, they were sixty four thousand, sixty four thousand of Tampa Raymond Bay Stadium.
01:38:43
Speaker 4: Man, I just it's a great It was a great thing for the NHL.
01:38:46
Speaker 1: It really was.
01:38:47
Speaker 2: I looked in on it though, and it just looked weird because the rink's not big enough to fill that whole stadium, so you've got all that extra space and if you're actually at the game, you can't be that close to the action. Though, don't you see what I'm getting that there?
01:39:03
Speaker 4: No, it's well, yeah, I get it. I get it for TV and said they were there.
01:39:08
Speaker 11: Yeah, for TV, it's great, but I think the majority of their fans it's an event.
01:39:12
Speaker 4: It's such one of the once in a lifetime day maybe for them, why not, you know, and.
01:39:16
Speaker 11: Usually the weather's good, but the weather was perfect for hockey because at Tampa when he gets for forty degrees, they'd freak out. I mean they just because they're blood thins out down there after they move from the north.
01:39:28
Speaker 4: It was a great it was a great day with the NHL.
01:39:30
Speaker 2: My baby brother, my youngest brother, Chuck, lives on the other side, on the Atlantic side, and listen to him complain and gripe when it gets below sixty degrees, It is amazing, and I just you know, but again it's it's all a matter of relativity.
01:39:47
Speaker 8: You know.
01:39:47
Speaker 2: He's been there now for excuse me, for like thirty two years. So yeah, he is adjusted to being eighty and humid, is all get out all the time. And when it drops below that, you know he's pulling on a heavy winter coat, putting on long pants and you know it's like sixty five degrees is like I'd be wearing t shirt and shorts.
01:40:10
Speaker 1: Dude, what are you talking about?
01:40:12
Speaker 4: Garry Jeff.
01:40:13
Speaker 11: I had a buddy of mine, his name was Steve Hally, used to live in Plants City, floored. I want to register train there and I would stay at his house a couple of nights when I'm there, and he had he turned the heat on. One time it was like sixty degrees. I said, Steve, what hell you got the heat on for a freezing man?
01:40:27
Speaker 4: I'm freezing?
01:40:28
Speaker 11: While he was from dating and he had been down there before. I said, what is your blood thin out or something down here?
01:40:34
Speaker 1: Come on, it must it must.
01:40:36
Speaker 2: I mean you get accustomed to a certain temperature range and that's where your your body just address adjust over time.
01:40:44
Speaker 3: So anyway, you enjoyed the hockey last night, Oh, I loved it. I loved it and the hockey. The goalie fight just astounded me. When I heard about that, I didn't see it, but I heard about it.
01:40:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you google on YouTube can YouTube it up and see it. It was great.
01:41:00
Speaker 11: In fact, the one goalie was left handed. And here's the great thing about the game. After the game, they line up and they all shook hands and we're waiting for the two goalies to meet. They shook hands, they started laughing out of each on their back and skated away.
01:41:12
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the way hockey players are.
01:41:14
Speaker 11: They'll fight the next day their buddy, their friends again, or they just let it go, they let it slide off.
01:41:19
Speaker 4: Hockey players are are just like assault of the earth. They really are.
01:41:24
Speaker 2: I see these hockey fights sometimes and they're not really what I would call knockdown dragouts. They're not exactly you know, laying good blows on somebody's face. And I think hockey fights are mostly fake wild man for the audiences.
01:41:41
Speaker 4: No, they're not fake. No, But the league is, you know, trying to cut back on the violence on the eye.
01:41:47
Speaker 11: It's not like the Broad Street bullies of years ago, where you know, hell, you know, every other every other ship there was a fight.
01:41:53
Speaker 4: Some of those guys.
01:41:54
Speaker 11: There's some bad blood on some guys, but most of the time when they're out there fighting. They're out there fighting. Man, don't don't get in the middle of it. Are you gonna get one upside the head?
01:42:03
Speaker 2: I tell you who doesn't need to fight to win games? The Miami RedHawks going to twenty two and oh now the train is still moving for Travis Steel and those guys there in Oxford.
01:42:15
Speaker 11: Yeah, we'll see, and we'll see tomorrow night when they play at Buffalo. They barely beat Buffalo in overtime up at Malette Hall, and now they've got to go to Buffalo. That'll be it'll be a tough game for him. But they keep finding ways.
01:42:27
Speaker 3: Men.
01:42:27
Speaker 11: Against Northern Illinois, they trailed a little bit early on and then you just blew them Mountain in the second half. But right now, hey, you gotta love you gotta love the story what's going on up into Oxford.
01:42:37
Speaker 2: But at least we don't have outdoor basketball, especially this time of year in Buffalo. So Eohano Suarez's back in a Reds uniform.
01:42:49
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Wild man?
01:42:52
Speaker 11: Well, at one year, fifteen million dollars, it's a low risk. I was surprised that they signed them, but we need a power back we've taught power bouts out there. We need a power bat. He has the power and we hit forty nine home runs last year. On the downside, he hit thirty six before the All Star break and only hit fifteen.
01:43:10
Speaker 4: I think I hit a put this way my male thirty four before the All Star break.
01:43:16
Speaker 11: He only hit fifteen after when they traded him really to Steattle so had he had a kind of a bad second half of the season.
01:43:23
Speaker 4: He does strike out a lot, but all power hitters do.
01:43:26
Speaker 11: Just like Schwarmer, he strikes out a lot, but he also can hit the ball out of the ballpark. They need a power bat, somebody to protect Elie de la Cruz. I kind of looked at Marcelo Soona. That could have been a decent power bat. But Marcello soon is a designated hitter.
01:43:41
Speaker 4: An outfielder.
01:43:42
Speaker 11: Doesn't blame much outfield Hey, Hanio Suares can play first, he can't play third if they need him, and he's not He's not great. He's not a great third basement, but he's not bad. But he's going to be the designated hitter pretty much most of the time. It's low risk. Fifteen million. I mean, look at the money they've spent on some of these bombs who never produced a moth, Mike Musakas and that Japanese guy again, also Capdelario.
01:44:07
Speaker 4: I mean, the Reds fans gotta be happy about this. They got a bat. Now we'll see what time will tell.
01:44:14
Speaker 11: I mean, the Cubs aren't gonna The Cubs have gone out and helped themselves too. Let's not think the Reds are just gonna roll to this division. And of course the Milwaukee Brewers have been the brain of the Reds. Daddy and the Cardinals, and the Reds and Cardinals always have a good, good series going on and on, and the Pirates have improved that the Alda Central it's gonna be it's gonna be tough.
01:44:31
Speaker 4: It's it's very tough division.
01:44:33
Speaker 2: Now, well, you talk about Red's infamously spending on all time bust. I mean, Homer Bailey was a great example of that, wasn't he. That was just ataotic when they did that.
01:44:44
Speaker 11: I still to this day thought that was just so so dumb, so dumb for a guy that's, you know, pitches every fifth day. And really because he threw two no hitters, big deal. Johnny Vandermir threw two no hitters, and he was a lousy pitcher. When you look at this record, go look it up. Johnny Vander didn't even have a five hundred record.
01:45:02
Speaker 4: Right, So we throw two no hitters. He got lucky.
01:45:06
Speaker 1: It happens. It happens.
01:45:08
Speaker 11: So I mean, as a Reds fan, you got to be happy they went out and did something that we'll see what we'll see down the road. If this was a good signing that Sores still has still has the bat. I mean, he's a he's a singles hitter. He draws a lot of walks, he hits so runs. He doesn't have hardly any Harley doubles. I looked at his career. He has two hundred and sixty two doubles. That's not many at all for the for all the years he's played. But he gives up some protection and he should help the Reds.
01:45:33
Speaker 3: And all we've been talking about all off season is how the Reds need a big bat in the lineup.
01:45:40
Speaker 1: And then they went and got one.
01:45:42
Speaker 11: You know, they went and got one, you know, and we'll not like I got it. Oh my god, I'm not going to say the word. But time will tell, Time will tell.
01:45:50
Speaker 1: All right, all right, wild Man.
01:45:51
Speaker 2: Time will tell whether we have time after the break, but we're gonna take one and we'll come back and talk maybe a little super Bowl, so we would little super Bowl, all right, man wild Man with us on the nightcap back after this break on seven hundred w l W.
01:46:08
Speaker 1: He stopped that, stop that. But they had the extra money because Austin Hayes went bye.
01:46:16
Speaker 4: Bye and that was yeah cash there, yeah, yeah, all right.
01:46:21
Speaker 2: So super Bowl sixty coming up next Sunday, America's national Party. And uh, we got the Seahawks and we got the New England Patriots. I I almost want to think it's it's a Seahawks sail in to this victory. They're gonna they're gonna make up for Pete Carroll's dumb mistake in the previous matchup.
01:46:47
Speaker 11: The dumbest call and the history of Super Bowl, the super Bowl, Well, he's not there.
01:46:52
Speaker 1: He's not there anymore.
01:46:53
Speaker 4: He's not He don't even have a job because a Raiders fired his dumb ass too.
01:46:58
Speaker 1: So, uh, how do you see the game up? Wild Man?
01:47:01
Speaker 11: Tell meybody, everybody I talked to once, since the Seahawks will win, I'm going the opposite. I'm going with the Patriots because A they're they've been perfect on the road this year.
01:47:13
Speaker 4: B they have a dynamic head coach, and C they only gave.
01:47:18
Speaker 11: Up seventeen points per game. You know, super you win, you win championships with the defense. And the New England Patriots spent a ton of money in the offseason shoring up their defense. This game is not going to be a blowout. And you've got Drake May who could be the MVP. I doubt it, but he's that guy. That guy's were real. And you got Sam Darnold, who has you know, Risen like Frankenstein off the table, who's had a tremendous last two years.
01:47:45
Speaker 4: This could be a very very good Super Bowl.
01:47:47
Speaker 11: I don't think it's going to be a blowout, but in the end, I think the Patriots will win out.
01:47:51
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the the Houston game with New England wound up being lopsided, but that was all at the end of the game, right, Yeah, what I'm remembering, Yeah, I mean that was that was more or less c J. Stroud melting down versus that that vaunted Patriots defense you were talking about. But the other games that the Patriots have played pretty much have been close, they've been you know, neck and neck.
01:48:19
Speaker 4: They find they've been finding a way to win. And that's that's a good sign. I know't if that's on the coach too.
01:48:24
Speaker 11: They find a way to win, they just do yep, and and and the Seahawks taking nothing away.
01:48:30
Speaker 4: From them, they found they found a way to win. I mean, look at the game against the Rams, how they pulled that out. I mean, god, I mean that game was going either I could have went either way.
01:48:38
Speaker 3: Are you surprised of the comeback of the Seahawks quarterback now in this position, because.
01:48:47
Speaker 11: Yeah, well I'm not surprised. I'm kind of like shocked.
01:48:51
Speaker 4: You take it.
01:48:51
Speaker 1: Do you think he always had the talent but didn't have the right talent around him?
01:48:55
Speaker 6: Oh?
01:48:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
01:48:55
Speaker 11: It was an outstanding college cour Yeah, you know, it pounds on your scheme or you know, or the coach and a lot of times they got, you know, just the team that you go with, and you know, it's like Baker Mayfield. I mean, the guy had the talent. They didn't get really a chance in Cleveland. They did, and then they kind of crapped on him.
01:49:13
Speaker 4: He leaves there, he goes to Tampa. The need to run for mayor down there and win.
01:49:17
Speaker 1: Oh, sure easily and probably get into a fight.
01:49:20
Speaker 4: With the team you're with.
01:49:23
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's a lot of the team of your team with with the you know, the the scheme that they use, and the and the coach and then believe it in you. I mean he's always had the arm absolutely absolutely.
01:49:34
Speaker 1: What do what do you think about Drake May? What do you think about the Oh that guy.
01:49:39
Speaker 11: Guys, the real guy is the real deal. He's the real deal, no doubt. This is only his second year and he's in the in the running for the the NFL m v P. I don't think he'll get it, but he's gonna be closed. He could be a very close vote. I think Matt Stafford, well we'll get there, we'll get the award. But Drake May and you got two good quarterbacks. You really do when you when you go into a super Bowl, that's what you want. Two of the best quarterbacks in the league. And those two guys have proven a day or two of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, at least this year.
01:50:08
Speaker 2: I tell you who's a wild card in this game too, is uh Is Walker the third He's always been an impressive guy in the backfield, and he can do multiple things and gains lots of yards after the first attempt to tackle him. He I think he's definitely a player to watch.
01:50:28
Speaker 1: As we get from.
01:50:29
Speaker 11: Mirabel I Guarantee has already pointed out out to the boys on the New England side of the ball, and New England are very good tackling team, they really are. They bring you down, they bring you down. They don't get they don't get beat too much on solo tackle. So and if you can bet that Walker's name has been circled a number of times already for that defense.
01:50:48
Speaker 4: And they got to watch this guy.
01:50:50
Speaker 2: How about my Vanderbilt basketball commodorees last week just chewing up Kentucky and spitting them out and then uh then taking on Old Miss beating them in a very exciting game over the weekend. They're now nineteen and three in the SEC and six and three. They were predicted to finish eleventh in the league before the season.
01:51:10
Speaker 11: Wild man, they've had a pretty good going on down there in Nashville, Knoxville, Nashville.
01:51:18
Speaker 1: Not do not confuse Knoxville and.
01:51:21
Speaker 11: Nashville with uh yeah, I mean Vanderbilt had a great football season. Yes, I'm having a great basketball season. But hey, you almost forgot the Hall of Fame. The Pro Football Hall of Fame voters did not elect Bill Belichick on the first ballot.
01:51:36
Speaker 1: So, Travis, it is just pure.
01:51:38
Speaker 4: That is pure.
01:51:38
Speaker 8: It is.
01:51:39
Speaker 5: It is the idiocy.
01:51:40
Speaker 3: It is the idiocy.
01:51:42
Speaker 11: And I'm glad the Pro Football Hall of Fame is going to look into this to see what who didn't vote for him or why? Because that just makes no sense. I mean, that's that's a black eye. It really is on the National Football League.
01:51:53
Speaker 4: It really is. It's Bill Belichick.
01:51:55
Speaker 2: It's not supposed to be a personality contest of who the media or the writers like or not their personality.
01:52:03
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be what you accomplish in the game.
01:52:06
Speaker 4: Uh well we've said that for years.
01:52:07
Speaker 1: When the yeah and Pete Rose and yeah, well Johnny.
01:52:11
Speaker 11: Bench and Tom Seaver, you know, Ken Griffy Jr. Doesn't get in unanimous, I mean they'll let unanimous.
01:52:18
Speaker 4: Of God, they've put in as a relief picture. A relief picture could be what does that make any sense?
01:52:25
Speaker 11: And these and some of these writers haven't seen these guys play in years, but did not have a vote. It's just that's just a blocky And hope, I hope the Pro Football of Fame finds out some of these guys who didn't vote because they didn't like his attitude or or yeah, sheet and I and I told you before he ain't cheat and he ain't trying.
01:52:44
Speaker 2: Well, you know what about the other four or five super bowls that he head coached. Yeah, you know, after the video game thing. Eli Manning didn't get in on the second try. But I'm not surprised by that.
01:52:55
Speaker 1: No, but he will get in.
01:52:56
Speaker 4: He will get anybody wins two super Bowls, He's going to get in. Yeah, down down the road.
01:53:01
Speaker 11: I really hope that it won't be announced until this week that Ken Anderson finally.
01:53:06
Speaker 1: Gets the call.
01:53:07
Speaker 11: Well, you're about a god that's so well deserving, that deserves. If Dan Fouts is in the super Bowl, I mean in the Hall of Fame, then damn well that you, Kenn Anderson should because Dan Fouts never went to a Super Bowl, never went Ken Anderson did.
01:53:21
Speaker 2: Ken Anderson absolutely deserving. I agree with you, wild man with that. We got to leave it where it is so uh and and by all they leave.
01:53:28
Speaker 4: It what it is and hopefully you don't get snowed in again.
01:53:31
Speaker 1: Well wild man, will We'll see what happens.
01:53:34
Speaker 4: Will you stop that?
01:53:39
Speaker 1: Take care?
01:53:40
Speaker 2: We we conclude tonight's night cap with a playing of our national anthem, the Star Spangled Banner, to honor America,