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Speaker 1: Tuesday evening, October 13th, 2026.
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Speaker 2: Gary Jeff Walker sitting down, checking in, getting ready to roll. In just a few minutes, we'll be talking to L.A.
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Speaker 1: Marzulli.
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Speaker 2: Fun name, huh? Had him on the show one other time, and he's got this film out called Rungs of Disclosure about UAPs, UFOs, close encounters, extraterrestrials, interdimensional beings, or something even more sinister. And he says he's got biblical proof to back up that it is something indeed more sinister. And it's referenced in the ancient text of God's holy word.
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Speaker 1: So L.A.
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Speaker 2: Marzulli will be around to address us in just a few moments after the commercial break. Also, Amanda Grace, who is an amazing, amazing pastor, And we'll get her perspective on the midterms and everything else.
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Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Archaeology returns.
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Speaker 2: It's a replay of this past Saturday's show with Jim LaBarber, the music professor, and myself. And around 1030, Joelle Mom. It's kind of a God show tonight. Who's another pastor from just outside of San Antonio, Texas. And he takes people on expeditions, on journeys to exciting places. from the Grand Canyon to South America. And he's got some interesting stories, plus a new book called The Circle Perspective. Plus, we will also talk with the wild man before we're done. And Dan was my good gun, bad guy guy.
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Good gun, bad guy guy. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, L.A.
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Speaker 2: Marzulli on the Nephilim and the biblical implications of... flying saucers extraterrestrial or not hmm anyway we'll get the inside scoop as we continue after this on 700 wlw it is the second bite at the nightcap apple for our next guest our first guest tonight uh but I've wanted to have him on multiple times and just never could get the schedules to match up. But today, we're all in luck, or at least I think it's luck, to have L.A. Marzulli back. He is an author, a lecturer, and a filmmaker. And rungs of disclosure. Following the trail of extraterrestrials and the end times is the topic of this incredible collection of people's stories. And where the connection between the Bible and UFOs intersect. And he's got some really, really powerful stories and some powerful evidence as well, as you will hear in the next few minutes. L.A., Marzulli, welcome back to the show.
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Speaker 1: How are you?
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Speaker 3: I'm great, and thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it. Now.
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Speaker 2: People have all kinds of hypotheses, theories about what's behind UFOs or UAPs, they're now being called, and the close encounters that people have experienced.
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Speaker 1: But you definitely have taken, and.
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Speaker 2: With sufficient evidence, I believe, you have taken this to a level that intersects with ancient texts And ancient peoples or beings that have come back, the Nephilim, I believe is what they're called.
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Speaker 1: Is that correct?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a very complex scenario, very, very complex. Nephilim are the progeny of fallen angels and human women. So that results in the flood, but there's also a second, third ongoing incursions even into modernity. It's always changing through the centuries. But the copulation, the literal copulation between fallen angelic entities and human women, it's right there in the book of Jude. It tells us angels left their first estate. But what does that mean? right? And the whole idea of the flood, and that, of course, is taken in the book of Jude. It's taken from the book of Enoch, which we don't read. It's not part of our canon. I understand that. But it was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, multiple copies. It's the first book in the Ethiopian Bible, so which Bible? I get it. In the West, it's King James only, and I get all that. But we have to put all that sort of on the back burner and realize that the Greek Orthodox Church Bible, their Bible is different than the Catholic Bible, which is different than the King James. So I look at all that, and that to me is like infighting, and I don't hold anything really sacrosanct. I lean heavily towards, you know, the King James or the New King James, but there's multiple translations. So the point being is this. The book of Enoch tells us that these angels came down. Why are they doing this? Because they're trying to contaminate the genome. Because we know from Genesis 3.15, which is the gateway to the Bible. Thank you, Gary Stearman, for teaching me this. But Genesis 3.15 is the gateway to the entire biblical prophetic narrative. It sets up the seed war, where the pre-incarnate Christ is in the garden with the dragon and Adam and Eve. And he looks at the dragon and says, your seed, your offspring. So you can tap dance around that until the cows come home and say, well, it really doesn't mean what it says. It's literal. The seed of the dragon will be at war at enmity with the seed, the offspring of the woman. The offspring of the woman, not Eve, but through her line, will be the proto-evangelium, will be the Mashiach, the Messiah, who will crush the dragon's head. Now, the dragon isn't stupid. He knows who he's looking at in the garden. He knows who the Son of God is. He knows that. So what does he do? It's full-tilt boogie, if I can go back 40 years and use that phrase. But it's true, absolutely all day long. And this is where the Genesis 6 narrative comes in, because the sons of God saw the daughters of men as they were beautiful, who were the sons of God, the b'nei ha'elohim, always referring to the angelic host. There are a lot of Christian brothers and sisters out there who hold to the Sethite theory. But the Sapphite theory isn't invented until the 3rd century. And then Augustine picks it up in the 4th century. And the Sapphite theory, well, these are the godly lot of Seth and the Hushimamas of Cain, but that's a huge stretch. These are fallen angels. They are coming down. They are doing the unthinkable. They are creating a hybrid being known as the Nephilim. So Jesus says we'll be like the days of Noah when I return. Well, this is why it's so important to get the exegesis, the interpretation of Genesis 3.15. Because if we get that, when we get to Genesis 6, oh, here's the seed war. erupting, manifesting on steroids. And then happens at Sodom and Gomorrah, Tower of Babel, Abraham and the Five Kings, finally the conquest of Canaan. The Nephilim tribes are there. The Zanzimim, the Imams, the Anakim, they're all there in the land. And the seed war reaches sort of a climax because the seed of the dragon is in the promised land. And the seed of Abraham, which will become the Messiah, is getting ready to go in and take the promised land.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: So that's a lot for anybody who's listening to this. And you encapsulate kind of like the whole theory in a couple of minutes.
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Speaker 1: But I.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Here you go. Here you go.
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Speaker 3: I get it. I hear the exasperation.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: So, but, but that does jive with, uh, these tales of alien encounters where there is probing. There is, uh, people think they're being implanted with, with things, uh, actually babies being implanted after their encounter with, uh, whatever the Nephilim or the extraterrestrials, whatever you want to call them. But these are not extraterrestrials in the sense of people thinking, oh, this is from another galaxy.
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Speaker 1: This is from another planet.
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Speaker 2: These are extraterrestrial as in they were in heaven. They fell to earth. And so have they always been here, L.A.
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Speaker 3: Yes, they've been with us for thousands of years. They're the gods of antiquity. When you look at the Ancient Aliens History Channel show, which has been on for over a decade. By the way, I was on the first two seasons of that show, and they didn't like what I was promulgating. I was heavily edited, so I never went back, but I digress. So the Anunnaki, which is, you know, all New Agers, all the Anunnaki, blah, blah, blah. These are nothing more than fallen angels. That's all they are. And, you know, they're treated and looked at as gods. The gods of Greek mythos are nothing more, in my opinion, than the fallen angelic hosts of heaven. Chuck Musser did a great study on this. you know, in the 90s, talking about Greek mythos might not be mythos. In other words, what we're looking at is centaurs, minotaurs, and fauns, and these other creations that are in Greek mythos are, in fact, they were on the earth in those days. Because we know, again, from the book of Enoch, it tells us that the fallen angels sinned against the animal kingdom. And what does that mean? There's genetic tampering. We're doing it now. We can do it in modernity. We can take, I remember this, talking to a guy at Amgen decades ago. I mean, this is like before the 2000s. So it's like 95, 96. And this is, you know, decades ago. And this guy told me that they can take the genes, get this, of a firefly and And they can splice those genes from a firefighter that lights up, right? And put that into a frog. Guess what? The frog lights up. And this is, again, this is 40 years ago. 40 years ago.
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Speaker 2: So imagine where the technology is now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows? Right.
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Speaker 1: So they've always been here.
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Speaker 2: And do you think they've continually been having relations with Earthly women all along, just like they did back in the day?
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Speaker 3: Okay, this is where we get into the abduction phenomenon. We have a film on this. All of our films right now are a buck each. You can watch them all on streaming.lamarzulli.net. Streaming.lamarzulli.net. They're all a buck. And they're all full-length documentary films. And, of course, we can't get the first base on Netflix or Prime Video. Gee, I wonder why, but I digress as usual. So in our film on abductions, there are two men and two women. All have been taken numerous times. The women have been impregnated by them. Karen, for instance, we publish her book, Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. And this is classic. This is the way it works. A woman is taken. She doesn't remember being taken, but she finds herself pregnant. And she goes to her OBGYN. Yep, you're pregnant. This is great. Look at the heartbeat. All is good. And the third month of her pregnancy, she's reabducted. And the fetus, the hybrid fetus is taken. And she wakes up the next morning. She's bleeding. Go to the OBGYN. No fetal tissue. No, nothing's there. And the OBGYN will go, well, we know you were pregnant. We saw the heartbeat. This is all in the film. And so, yes, it's going on. And where do you go with this? In the beginning of the film, I do like a monologue and talk about this and say, you know, who do you reach out to? You know, who do you even talk about it with? And you can't. And that's why it's so important that some of these well-meaning Christians, and we did a rebuttal on this. I'm not going to mention the man's name, but he was talking about, you know, the angels don't have the plumbing. Excuse me, sir, you have no idea what you're talking about. None. No idea. And you need to repent because what you're doing is putting a stigma against these people that have been traumatized by this event. And it goes against scripture because the breeding program is going on now. It's continuing. Hybrids are walking amongst us, as strange as it may seem. They are. We've had accounts. It's all in our films. This is deep research. We've taken out an implant. Bread bear. Let me let me let me pivot over to Brett Baier. OK, Brett Baier is probably the most conservative voice on the planet. Let's face it. You know, this guy is just straight up straight shooter. No nonsense guy. And it's one of the wrongs and the wrongs of disclosure. Brett Baier states in a bizarre post that some women who find themselves on board UFOs become pregnant. Well, that's our wheelhouse. And this is Brett Baer. This is Fox News. This isn't George Norrie, whom I love. I've been on his show too many times to count. But this is Brett Baer. This is Fox News. And the church needs to understand that there's, number one, a physicality to the phenomena. Number two, it ties right back into Scripture. Number three, these are not, you know, wisps or phantoms. There is nuts and bolts technology, which is used by the good guys and the bad guys. It's very, very complex technology.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I think as a believing Christian myself, L.A., I can believe that there are these encounters going on. I mean, I'm not keeping my head in the sand about this or just disavowing anything you're talking about because of my faith. My faith allows that.
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Speaker 1: These angels exist. I know the angels existed, the fallen angels existed.
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Speaker 2: Because Lucifer is still warring with us right now as we wait for Jesus' return. So how does this foretell, rungs of disclosure, how does it foretell the end times?
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Speaker 3: Well, we know that Jesus warns us. I mean, and I talk about this at conferences. There are those women in the church who say, well, you know, we're not going to talk politics or we're not going to talk about UFOs or UAPs or extraterrestrials. We're just Jesus only. So I usually start a presentation with the Jesus only crowd because what it does is it warns people and diffuses people. So Jesus says that even the elect will be deceived if that were possible because the powers of heaven will be shaken. That's not a happy message. Jesus warns us that we'll be like the days of Noah when I return. I mean, you know, what do you do with that? What do you do with that? Even the elect will be deceived, the days of Noah. Men fade from fear, from what is coming upon the earth. That's Jesus. Then Paul adds to that. Satan comes with all signs and lying wonders. Then later on in 2 Thessalonians, because they did not believe the truth, God allows, sends them a lie. Then we get to 1 Timothy 4, verse 1. The Spirit expressly states, expressly states, underline that, the Spirit expressly states that on the latter days, the last days, some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and the doctrines of demons. You know, you put all that together, and you're looking at something which is unprecedented, an event that is unprecedented. Number one, we are definitely in the days of Noah. The breeding program is happening. So you say to yourself, well, why now? Well, again, if you're an amillennialist, then you don't take prophecy literally. And most churches are amillennial, unfortunately. I'm a charismatic dispensationalist, so we're in the dispensation of grace. And I believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. specifically in the liberal interpretation of Scripture and prophecy. So when it tells us that Israel, you know, is God's prophetic time clock. That's one of the terms I kind of coined. When we go to Amos 9, 14 and 15, and by the way, all these scriptures are in my heart. I wear them on my sleeve. I recite them daily, usually at two or three in the morning, but I recite them because it's part of who I am. It's what I am. So when I'm on shows like you, I'm not reading notes. I'm rattling it off because it's It's in my heart. It's in my head. It's part of what I am. So we know this, Amos 9, 14 and 15, that I will bring back the captives of my people, Israel. Check. They will build the way cities and inhabit them. Check. They will also plant vineyards and drink the wine from them. Check. They will also plant garden to fruit from them. I will plant them in their land and never again. Never again will they be plucked up out of the land they have given them, says Lord your God. May 14th, 1948, that scripture, Amos 9, 14 and 15, was being read in every single synagogue because they're all linked up. They read portions of the Torah and the Haftor and the minor prophets. They're all in sync. They're all reading from the same thing. May 14th, 1948, that week they're all reading Amos 9, 14 and 15. Coincidence? I think not. Israel is God's prophetic time clock. And they will look on him, Jesus, Yeshua, whom they have fears, and mourn for him as an only son. That's prophecy. That's the future. But they are God's prophetic time clock. And isn't it interesting, you get 19, and this is all in the book, runs in Disclosure. But 1945, you get the two bombs dropped, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. That's a signal to the fallen ones, because they're looking at a Luciferian kingdom. They know that that's their trigger. They see through time differently than we do. They're not all-knowing. They can't see all of time, but they see through time differently, and they know somehow that that's the trigger. Well, guess what? 1947, you get Roswell. We have two films on Roswell. We actually went to the debris field and picked out a piece of the metal in the debris field, went to a lab. This is all in our film, but I digress. So 45, the two bombs, 47 Roswell. Why Roswell? Because the 509th bombing group is stationed at Roswell, New Mexico. The 509th dropped those two atomic bombs. 48 Israel, it becomes a nation. The entire UFO, UAP phenomenon, as we know today, takes off. The elements were there.
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Speaker 1: I was afraid this was going to happen.
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Speaker 2: We're running out of time. So give the address again for people to find your documentaries.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. Just go to streaming.lamarzulli.net or lamarzulli.com. That's the website. And, you know, Gary, thanks for having me on. But, you know, there's like 34 films and 16 books, and we've just scratched the surface. People need to do their homework. And let's do it again soon.
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Speaker 1: All right. Hopefully there's an opportunity for us to do just that.
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Speaker 3: L.A.
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Speaker 2: Marzulli on the Nightcap. Amanda Grace, coming up after news. Up next tonight, we've got a first-time guest. When I heard what she was all about and what she was doing, I said, I want that woman on the show.
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Speaker 1: And so here she is.
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Speaker 2: And after going through all kinds of hoops, I'm not even going to tell you, she has made it to the phone and on the air with us tonight, Amanda Grace, who is the author of Brace.com, for Brace of Impact, Five Rare Prophetic Events That Will Trigger a Spiritual Tipping Point, and there's an upcoming book, Prophecy 911. And I don't know if I'm pronouncing this correctly or not. I'm sure she'll correct me. Is it Purim Pattern or Purim Pattern and the Warning to America? It is Amanda Grace, the founder of Ark of Grace Ministries and our guest on the Nightcap.
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Speaker 1: Welcome, Amanda. How are you?
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Speaker 5: How are you? Thank you so much for having me. And yes, it's Purim.
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Speaker 3: Purim.
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Speaker 5: Purim pattern.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost, let's educate the host. What is the Purim pattern?
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Speaker 6: Okay, so Purim comes from the book of Esther in the Bible. And basically, the book of Esther has to do with the Jews at the time are living in the kingdom of Persia, which is now Iran. There is a man named Haman from the line of Amalek that is raised up to a very high political position in the kingdom. Haman came because King Saul, when he was told to kill all the Amalekites and destroy Amalek, he disobeyed. And so the line continued. And so Haman comes from that line. So he's raised up to a position at the same time because the Lord always knows what the enemy is going to do.
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Speaker 5: Before he does it.
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Speaker 6: He actually brings Esther into the picture and her uncle Mordecai and Esther is taken in. basically to the to the king's potential harem when he's looking for another queen she's one of the women that gets taken in the kingdom and she ends up becoming queen so now she's queen hayman ends up being raised this political position and he decides he's going to destroy all the jewish people in the kingdom and annihilate them completely And he convinces the king to do this. Now, the king doesn't even know his own wife is Jewish because she has hidden her identity. And so it's basically this amazing, incredible sequence of divine reversals on the part of almighty God that ends up saving an entire people and reversing that destruction upon Haman and his own family line. And Purim was birthed out of that. And that's why every year they celebrate Purim.
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Speaker 2: All right, so the book is Prophecy 911, The Purim Pattern and the Warning to America. How is it relatable to right now? What's going on right now, Amanda?
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Speaker 6: Okay, well, I'll show you some interesting things going on right now. So basically it relates because what is going on in Iran right now, days before Purim, is actually when the Ayatollah, ended up falling in Iran. And he actually fell, I believe it was on the ninth day of the 11th month, which would be 9-11 on their calendar.
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Speaker 5: He ends up falling. At the same time in New.
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Speaker 6: York City, this is where it gets interesting, because the Ayatollah has the name Haman hidden in his name. You can spell Haman from his name and Amalek. Not only does he have that, but Zoran Mamdani, the current mayor.
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Speaker 5: Of New York City, also has Haman hidden in his name.
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Speaker 6: And he's also raised up around the same time that we end up seeing what's happening with Iran. So we see the shadows of who Heyman was actually hidden within the individuals that actually have come to the forefront right now of what's happening, not only in this nation, but globally.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 2: That's so, so what's the warning to America all about is, is it a warning about mom Donnie? Is it, I mean, Obviously, you want people to read the book, but I'm very curious.
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Speaker 1: You got my curiosity raised.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm so glad.
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Speaker 6: So basically, why it's a warning to America, too, is because something happened this year on 9-11 that connects to everything I've just told you.
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Speaker 5: So on 9-11 this year.
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Speaker 6: Which was the 25th anniversary, Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets, actually intersected and happened on the same day. And we entered the year 5787 on the Jewish calendar, which happens to be a Jewish leap year this year, which actually contains double Purims. Because you have a Dar 1 and a Dar 2 on the calendar, and you have something called.
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Speaker 5: Purim Katan, Little Purim, and Purim.
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Speaker 6: So we literally went from 2025 Purim marked by a blood moon. We had a blood moon on Purim 2025, Purim 2026 Purim. was also marked by a blood moon in early March. Now we entered the year 5787, and now we've jumped into two Purims in the same year, which is the warning, because what happens with Purim? You have decrees of destruction that go out. So now there's a potential for double decrees of destruction to go out that we have to be very aware of that is going to take the intercession of the people of God to divinely reverse these. So we're actually entering a year where there is a great potential for that to happen.
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Speaker 2: Is this, if you're a Christian, does this portend that Jesus is on the way back?
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Speaker 1: Jesus is coming back soon?
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Speaker 6: Well, he's definitely coming back soon this year. No, I'm not too sure of that. But I will say that, yes, it's a sign of the times that we are in. If we look at what's happening globally, if we look at what's trying to raise itself up in America, you know, we have an unholy alliance right now that has formed an unholy alliance of, you know, of, you know, Democrat Islam socialism that have all fused together.
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Speaker 3: Yes, they have.
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Speaker 7: Into one.
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Speaker 6: And they're trying to rise in America. They're trying to raise, to do what?
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Speaker 5: What are they going to try to do?
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Speaker 6: Well, they're going to try to send out decrees of destruction.
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Speaker 5: This is what they're going to try to do.
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Speaker 6: So it's interesting that as this is raising up at the same time, we entered this time where it's a Jewish leap year and it happens to be double Purims of all times.
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Speaker 5: And we started it on 9-11. That's the warning right there.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 6: That's a 911. We started this on 9-11, and these are the things that we have to take notice of as believers and realize there's more prophetic implications than we thought.
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Speaker 2: I did not have a chance to go through Brace of Impact, the book before this one, and it says five rare prophetic events that will trigger a spiritual tipping point. Have we triggered that spiritual tipping point yet?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think I think we're right at the precipice of it, to be very honest with you, because after the Jewish leap.
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Speaker 5: Year ends, which would be next September.
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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: When we when Russia happens again, we enter. Now, this is wild because then we've got the election year coming in 2028. We enter a Shemitah year on the Jewish calendar before our election year, and that happens every seven years on the Jewish calendar, and serious world events are known to happen on Shemitah years.
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Speaker 5: 9-11 happened on a Shemitah year. The global banking.
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Speaker 6: Crisis, right, and the rise of Barack Obama happened on a Shemitah year. All these things happen during Shemitah years. So we go literally from a Jewish leap year that has double Purims giving birth into a Shemitah year that sets up for the election. So we are literally right at the precipice and a cusp. Why is it of a spiritual tipping point? Because we have a war of ideologies and religion attempting to clash and rise in this nation right now. So it is going to reach a spiritual tipping point. And we, as the people of God, you know, the word of God says when the enemy comes in like a flood, the spirit of the Lord will raise a standard against him.
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Speaker 5: A standard. We're supposed to be the standard. We are that standard. We are meant to rise in that time.
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Speaker 6: We are meant to be the unadulterated voice of truth and speak the word of God when we see these things rising in our nation.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about Ark of Grace Ministries. A little bit.
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Speaker 6: Well, Ark of Grace is interesting because I call myself sort of a female prophetic version of Noah. And the reason I say that is because we not only have the ministry, which which we have publicly and we biblically teach and we show prophetic parallels, you know, and we show what's happening today. But we also have an animal sanctuary. Attached to it that houses over 60 animals.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 6: And so basically the Lord sends these animals in their very broken, wounded orphan state, kind of like we are when he finds us and we.
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Speaker 5: Come to him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing.
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Speaker 6: And they come under our covering and we end up just basically not only loving them and taking care of them, but then they become a tool. in the hands of god and i've had so many people write us and said i would have never stopped and listened to you but i saw all the animals that you have and it compelled me to listen so these animals are actually a really brilliant tool in the hands of the lord to bring people to know him and to understand him and in a closer relationship with him so we do both basically So you're.
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Speaker 1: On YouTube all of the time.
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Speaker 2: I have not checked it out yet, but I plan on after we get off the phone.
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Speaker 1: I i bet you sound like you're pretty entertaining.
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Speaker 2: And uh you have hundreds of thousands of viewers every month and uh have have been on is your message out there strictly i mean are you trying to scare people about what's to come Are you just looking for clicks and likes?
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Speaker 1: I mean, what's.
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Speaker 2: Your calling? How do you feel like you were called to do what you're doing now, Amanda?
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Speaker 6: In a way, I believe I was called to sound an alarm and sober people up to the heightened level of sophisticated spiritual warfare that we've entered in this nation, really to educate people. and equip people and bring them into a deeper relationship with almighty God through Christ Jesus and equip them for the time they are in because you can't fight an enemy.
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Speaker 5: You don't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So, so the Lord has me basically educating people on what prophetically is happening and, and the parallels and, and, you know, opening.
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Speaker 5: People's eyes to the parallels between.
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Speaker 6: What's happening now and scripture in order to equip them and educate them in order to deal with with a very sophisticated level of spiritual warfare.
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Speaker 5: That we have entered.
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Speaker 6: And if we're not equipped with the right weapons, you know, we are not equipped for the battle. And if we're soldiers in the army of the living God, well, God does not ill equip us.
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Speaker 5: That's not the kind of God he is.
00:31:12
Speaker 6: He equips us for what we have been called.
00:31:15
Speaker 5: You know, he doesn't call the equipped. He equips the called. Well, this and we've been called in this time.
00:31:21
Speaker 6: In this season, into what's happening in this nation, to stand as a voice of truth, to stand as a voice of God's word and the truth of his word, and to speak that in this time. And so we're trying to wake people up to that fact because we want to see people operating in their full call the way God has called them to in this time.
00:31:47
Speaker 1: Very good, very good.
00:31:48
Speaker 2: So the first book, again, Brace of Impact, Five Rare Prophetic Events That Will Trigger a Spiritual Tipping Point, and the upcoming book, Prophecy 911, The Purim Pattern and the Warning to America.
00:32:03
Speaker 1: The author is Amanda Grace.
00:32:06
Speaker 2: Any kind of contact that people can find you, Amanda, if they're looking?
00:32:12
Speaker 3: Yes. Sure.
00:32:14
Speaker 6: They could go to Ark with a K, arkofgrace.org. That's our main website. And we are on all the social media platforms. So we're Ark of Grace Ministries on YouTube and on Rumble. And we're Ark of Grace Ministry with a Y on Facebook. And we have our own app that you can download in the App Store as well for free.
00:32:31
Speaker 3: All right.
00:32:32
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time today.
00:32:36
Speaker 5: Thank you.
00:32:36
Speaker 1: Good luck with the upcoming book.
00:32:38
Speaker 2: I know it's going to hopefully help a lot of people understand what's happening.
00:32:42
Speaker 7: I pray so.
00:32:43
Speaker 5: Thank you, sir.
00:32:44
Speaker 1: All right.
00:32:45
Speaker 2: Amanda Grace with us. And there's more nightcap ahead if you just stick around. He is a pastor, and he is an author, and he is kind of an adventurer in a way, leading people on these great expeditions and journeys. And his new book, which is just out today, today is launch day for joellemomsbook.com. the circle perspective, how your journey has prepared you for your higher destiny. Everything that happens in your life that can lead you to God, your ultimate destiny is, is part of that, that trip. And sometimes, boy, I tell you what, sometimes you really have no idea how this is.
00:33:31
Speaker 1: Going to lead you to that.
00:33:32
Speaker 2: Uh, as far as getting you closer to God and, uh, you know, being where God wants you to be. But the, the journey is sometimes is in fact, Joel says all the times circuitous, uh, to say the least Joel mom, welcome back to the show.
00:33:52
Speaker 1: How are you?
00:33:54
Speaker 3: Thanks.
00:33:54
Speaker 1: Good to be with you again. I'm doing good.
00:33:56
Speaker 2: Great to have you. Um, so the circle perspective is out now. And the last time we talked and it was one of the more interesting things about the conversation and it's a claim, uh, that kind of supports of the book and the whole thought behind it is that in Hebrew, in Psalms 23, when he says, he leadeth me to greener path, it's the path that you're being led to. And in Hebrew, that is directly translated to circles, not a straight line.
00:34:33
Speaker 3: Right. Yes.
00:34:35
Speaker 8: So the word path is muggle and it means paths made of circles.
00:34:39
Speaker 1: Paths made of circles. How about that?
00:34:42
Speaker 2: Uh, so, so when you think that, uh, you're, you're going up a hill or something and you're in a, you're, you start in a straight line, you know, where you want to get to, to the top, but because of obstacles, because of the grade, The shepherd in Psalms 23 is actually having to lead around that hill to kind of ease the grade to the ultimate destination, right?
00:35:16
Speaker 8: Yes, that's a great way to look at it, yeah. He knows where the good stuff is, and he's constantly pushing you to higher and more to achieve the purpose he's placed in you. But it's interesting, there's a verse in Romans that says the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable or without repentance, another version says. So the idea is there's this core that he placed in every human being. He placed gifts, he placed abilities, he placed motivations within you, and those don't go away. He just wants you to become the fullness of that. And so he leads you in this kind of ever-widening spiral where You come back to timeframes, you know, maybe for you, it's for a while it was for us every four years, there was a major life change, right? Or you come back to places and you go, I never thought I'd be here again, but it looks different. You know, I ended up back in a small town I grew up in recently and I was like, never wanted to come.
00:36:07
Speaker 1: Back here, but it had a purpose, right?
00:36:09
Speaker 8: So there's this circular pattern to his work and you just keep coming back and you start to realize, wait, that thing that I experienced back there that I never want to have to experience again. it prepared me for what's ahead now. And I think that's the message right there is that God is working all things together for the good of those who love him.
00:36:26
Speaker 1: And we live in this.
00:36:27
Speaker 8: Crazy world where there's all sorts of horrible stuff that happens, but he is the one who can turn even the worst of things into something that gives us a mission and a message.
00:36:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:36:37
Speaker 2: Similarly, it may not be a physical, a geographical location, but you may be led back into something that you stumbled through before or stumbled from before and uh and and god's you know it's it's just a chance to as you mentioned give it the circle perspective okay i've been here before and i i don't want to have happened what happened last time how do i reach out to god for, you know, guidance through that, and how do I approach it this time as opposed to last time when maybe it wasn't your best day, right?
00:37:22
Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah. That's another way to look at it.
00:37:24
Speaker 8: It's like, well, God's going to give you a chance to get it right this time. What's that verse in Proverbs? One of my favorite verses. My wife thinks it's insane that I like it. It says, if you faint in the day of adversity, your strength is small. She goes, that's not encouraging. And I go, actually, it's really encouraging because if you're still standing when life gets hard, you're stronger than you think you are. And the other is if you have a moment where you fainted and you look back and go, oh, I could have handled that better. You're going to get a chance to do it again.
00:37:52
Speaker 9: You get to get it.
00:37:53
Speaker 8: You get a chance to get it right. He's given you that gift.
00:37:56
Speaker 1: A do over.
00:37:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:37:58
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what?
00:38:00
Speaker 2: A prime example of that in my life, Joelle, is the fact that I'm married to a wonderful woman who I love. Um, And I call her Krista 2.0. I call her Krista 2.0 because we were married once before in 1997.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: And then things did not work out that time. And we got separated and divorced. And same persons, same two people.
00:38:26
Speaker 2: 12 years later, without any foreknowledge of her being even in the same town, And not having any contact with her at all in those 12 years between the divorce being final and us seeing each other again. And she walked in where I was working and eyes met, jaws dropped, and it was love at second sight. And we've been going strong now for a little over 12 years. And very happy.
00:38:58
Speaker 7: Wow, what a story.
00:39:00
Speaker 2: So, you know, God brought us back into each other's lives. And we got that do over. So to me, that's a prime example of what we're talking about.
00:39:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:12
Speaker 8: And I mean, and I can guarantee you there's some stuff you learned in that first round that you're going, we're not going to do that again.
00:39:17
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. No question. You take people through Summit Leaders, which is an organization you founded. You take people on these, these journeys. Um, so if you will talk a little bit about that and, and what, what you accomplished in these expeditions.
00:39:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:39:41
Speaker 8: So I went and got a master's degree in counseling and then I discovered I don't actually like counseling. So, um, I did a bunch of clinical and I was like, I can't stand this. I like being in the outdoors. I like what happens with people. My friend Mark Batterson, he actually wrote the foreword for the book. He has this formula. He says change of pace plus change of place equals a change of perspective. Sometimes you just got to get out of your regular routine, get to a new location. And all of a sudden you start to see your life from a different perspective. And usually it's something that was already right in front of you. And what I found is these outdoor adventures, that's where my sweet spot is in helping people get a new perspective on their life.
00:40:19
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for people who can do clinical. I'm not one of them.
00:40:22
Speaker 8: I'm a guy that's got to be out marching through the woods. So I found I take people out on outdoor adventures and we do some leadership training along the way. So rather than sitting in a seminar, you're actually out hiking to Machu Picchu or climbing Mount Kilimanjaro or rafting the Grand Canyon. And I've brought some really top, top level speakers with us. Um, and we go do these things and we have a little in the evenings, um, at the campfire or in the tent, we have a little devotional and, and you're, you're learning as you're hiking. We have another one actually in the footsteps of Jesus in Israel. So that's, that's kind of how I've learned. I'm like, I realized, oh, I think every one of us has to kind of find our unique niche. Like there's a thing we're trained to do. And then there's a thing we are gifted to do. And I, for me, counseling is a thing, but I find it works best for me in the outdoors. So That's kind of where I landed with summitleaders.com. We've taken thousands of people around the world on outdoor adventures.
00:41:15
Speaker 2: Looking at one of your missions, you probably, I don't, you might, you might not, but I don't think that I would be, after your experience there, recommending people go to Acapulco.
00:41:29
Speaker 1: Tell me about how, you know, you hear.
00:41:32
Speaker 2: Acapulco and you think about sunshine and beaches and this wonderful tourist haven.
00:41:39
Speaker 1: Not so much for your experience, right?
00:41:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:41:42
Speaker 8: So the whole book, the circle perspective is me telling the story of like one of the most miserable missions experience of my life. We, you know, I love Mexico, but the part of Mexico we were assigned to for our mission was it was a infested with drug dealers and. The, um, narco terrorists owned the whole area. Everyone lived in fear. Gangs ran the place and we lived right in the middle of that. And so we went through an experience dealing with constantly being hassled by corrupt cops, our home being broken into getting our lives threatened.
00:42:14
Speaker 1: Um, that's the whole experience in the book.
00:42:17
Speaker 8: And I look back now at the time I thought, what a failure of a season of my young life. But I look back now and I see what it was preparing me for in the future. But, uh, yeah, that was, that was our experience in Acapulco that I just go, Um, I used to look back at that and go, what a waste of a good season of my life when I was young. But now I realized, oh, it was all part of the training and I don't want to do it again.
00:42:39
Speaker 1: Believe me, don't want to do it again. There was a church member.
00:42:43
Speaker 2: There was a church member who actually offered you a gun and you said, no, your house was broken into and all kinds of other.
00:42:51
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:42:51
Speaker 1: So we had ticked off the head of the gang.
00:42:53
Speaker 8: I have a capacity for ticking people off. Apparently, um, we had ticked off the head of the gang. And he was threatening our life around the neighborhood. So one of my church members showed up with a gun and guns are very illegal in Mexico. Here it's like, oh, a gun, whatever. In Mexico, they find a gun on you, you're going to prison for life. So I asked him, I said, how'd you get this gun? And he's like, oh, pastor, you don't want to know.
00:43:19
Speaker 1: But we found out that I turned down the gun. But later that night.
00:43:21
Speaker 8: We found out that he had actually patrolled our property that evening to protect us. So the Lord protected us through a church member with an illegal gun. But anyway.
00:43:29
Speaker 1: That's okay. That's okay. And in Peru, you actually opened up a cafe.
00:43:37
Speaker 7: Yes.
00:43:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:43:38
Speaker 8: Right after we left, you know, we left Mexico and I tell him the story how That abruptly ended, and it was the weirdest experience ever. I was like, I feel like this ministry needs to close, and we closed it, which closing things isn't usually something people put on their resume.
00:43:51
Speaker 1: But we closed it.
00:43:53
Speaker 8: We were missionaries without a mission, and next thing we knew, we found ourselves in Peru starting a cafe up in the Andes Mountains in Cusco, Peru. So it was quite a wonderful experience because nobody was threatening my life or trying to kill me.
00:44:06
Speaker 1: So I felt really happy.
00:44:09
Speaker 2: There are tons of books, and the point is made here in the pitch, Joel, talking to Joel Malm, of the Circle Perspective, the book's out now today, and Summit Leaders, the organization he founded that has led him to all kinds of really cool places. There are tons of books out there and all kinds of conferences and webinars that, I mean, and they use the Bible, but they use it as a, as to sell a formula for success. And you write, on the other hand, here's the quote, there is no formula for life. There is only revelation. You want to go deeper into that, Joel?
00:44:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
00:44:54
Speaker 8: Well, we're always, you know, I spent most of my 20s looking for the thing that was going to lead to success. And if you just do this, you do that, you do this. But what I've found over and over again, that's why Jesus, when he left the earth, he said, actually, it's really good that I'm leaving. I'm going to leave you a guide. His name is the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit is literally going to guide you in truth as you're ready for it. Jesus even said, he's like, I want to tell you a lot more stuff, but you basically, he had his Jack Nicholson moment.
00:45:19
Speaker 1: You can't handle the truth.
00:45:20
Speaker 8: So I'm going to send the Holy Spirit and he's going to guide each of us. And so we come to a point in our life where you realize you're unique, right? You've got a unique calling and gifting. There's some principles that we need to understand. There's some clear things in the Bible you don't do. Ten Commandments example. But for much of life, the thing you need is a God. And that's where there's no formula because what's going to work for you is going to be different for me. But there is guidance from the Holy Spirit. And that's why we have to learn to have our own relationship with God and listen to his unique guidance for our life.
00:45:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have often said, and I tell people this, I'm not a pastor. I'm just, you know, but this is my philosophy. And my understanding, Joelle, is that we are all created specifically for some purpose and We are all individuals. We're like snowflakes. That's why I hate the term snowflakes to describe somebody who's soft or whatever. But I said, in essence, all human beings are snowflakes because we're all individually wrapped, if you want to frame it that way, by God. And we all have unique paths and unique.
00:46:32
Speaker 1: Skills that he has given us, gifts.
00:46:35
Speaker 2: And it's not one size fits all, as you were just saying.
00:46:40
Speaker 1: And I've said that for years.
00:46:44
Speaker 8: And that's part of kind of what the circle perspective is about. The ultimate in every circle or every season, you could fill in the word season for circles.
00:46:51
Speaker 1: There's about nine stages.
00:46:52
Speaker 8: And at the end of each stage, I think we begin to get a better understanding of our unique mission and the unique message. I believe we all have a message to share and a problem to solve. And your life has prepared you with that. And in each season, you get a little bit more understanding of what that is. And that's what the book's really about is like, what's your future? Your future is bright because you have been prepared for everything that's ahead.
00:47:17
Speaker 1: That's the message of the book. Yeah.
00:47:19
Speaker 2: And it kind of reminds me of a teaching from our church just a week or so ago in Revelation. And, you know, it's Revelation 11. where they're talking about the throne room and the elders and all of the glory that's ahead. And he says, I must show you all of this, and then I will have to show you what must take place after this. So it prepares you for glory, understanding that the rest of the story and the rest of the book is pretty, let's say, it could be frightening. It could be just terrifying for people. And Revelation is just preparing you for the tough stuff that's ahead, but it's just the first part of Revelation is training you to not be afraid of what's coming, what has to happen. So it's kind of the same thing, I think. Yeah, I mean, Paul said that too.
00:48:27
Speaker 8: When he's sitting in prison, he says, I want you to know, brothers, that what's happened to me has really served to advance the mission of the gospel. And you go, he wrote that in a prison.
00:48:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
00:48:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:48:37
Speaker 8: But he had the bigger perspective going, yeah, but there's all sorts of stuff going on, even in the middle of my situation that's accomplishing God's purposes. So that gives you really It gives a deep sense of meaning in this life that sometimes you go, what's the point of all this? You recognize there is a bigger, there's a bigger story. There's a, you know, postmodernism has said there's no metanarrative, there's no bigger story. And so people have begun to feel meaningless. And I say, until you recognize that you're part of a bigger story, his story, his story. You're going to not find meaning, but when you recognize there's something big going on and you have a unique part to play, you're his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works, which the Father himself prepared beforehand that you should walk in them. You got a purpose here. You're not here by accident. And everything that's happening to you is preparation.
00:49:23
Speaker 2: The book is The Circle Perspective, how your journey has prepared you for your higher destiny. The author is Joel Malm and another fantastic conversation. Thank you so much, Pastor Malm.
00:49:33
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right. You got it.
00:49:35
Speaker 2: And great success with the book. We'll continue the nightcap in just a few. Dan was the good gun, bad guy. Guy will be on in just minutes after news.
00:49:48
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00:50:03
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00:50:07
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00:50:08
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00:50:11
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00:50:15
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00:50:19
Speaker 2: So it feels like you've done everything they've told you to do to deal with your joint pain.
00:50:23
Speaker 1: You've had physical therapy. You've done the medication steroids. And now they're talking.
00:50:29
Speaker 2: Proud to welcome back a frequent guest and a longtime Nightcap participant, the good gun, bad guy guy, as I like to say. It just sounds funny. But he is the good gun, bad guy guy. His name is Danny Walsh. He is a Second Amendment advocate, extraordinaire, nationally recognized commentator. And he's here to commentate a little bit with us tonight on the latest gun control strategies that are being used to strip you of your Second Amendment rights. Dan Woz, welcome back to the show. It's great to have you.
00:51:10
Speaker 9: Hey, Gary, Jeff, it's great to be on your show as always.
00:51:13
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I don't know if I can live up to that extraordinaire title, but I'll try my best.
00:51:23
Speaker 2: I have a rather large vocabulary, and I don't always use the words correctly.
00:51:27
Speaker 1: I don't know.
00:51:29
Speaker 2: But I think you are a Second Amendment advocate extraordinaire.
00:51:33
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. The latest.
00:51:39
Speaker 2: Attempt at grabbing our guns is being framed as whether we need it or not.
00:51:48
Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on this?
00:51:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't you love when they say, you know, when you're in the Second Amendment sort of world, as I am, a lot of times we'll get comments from the anti-gun folks who really don't know a heck of a lot about guns, and they don't know, they really don't have any appreciation for the Second Amendment.
00:52:09
Speaker 9: They'll say things like, well, why do you need an AR-15? Why do you need.
00:52:14
Speaker 1: I've heard that all the time, yeah.
00:52:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it's like.
00:52:19
Speaker 4: And the interesting thing about it when you really dig down into their psychology is that they truly believe that if you can't articulate a valid need, and I mean valid in their eyes, then they believe that you just simply shouldn't have whatever it is they're trying to ban. They don't understand the difference between rights and needs or rights and privileges. So it's something I've been working on, and the psychology of it's just really, really interesting when you look at it from that perspective.
00:52:53
Speaker 2: Well, I really don't need that lobster tail, but, you know, I've got the money and it's there.
00:53:00
Speaker 1: I probably would like to have that.
00:53:02
Speaker 2: I don't have a God-given right to have the lobster tail, but I really wanted. But, yeah, they'd focus on something like that was like, Well, yeah, yeah. Do you really need that extra scoop of mashed potatoes? But they look at, again, the Bill of Rights as a bill of needs, and it's simply not the case. So, I mean, I don't need an F-15 fighter, but, you know, since the government has it, if I could have the wherewithal to actually buy one, I should be able to do that.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: I just.
00:53:42
Speaker 2: Just trying to come up with the runway and the hanger right now. But the point of the matter is the reason that your right to own and bear firearms is in the Constitution, in the Bill of Rights, is because not only your protection against criminal elements or foreign intruders, but your protection against an overreaching government, which is what we were facing in 1776 with the British crown. You had an overreaching government that did not appreciate or respect individual rights of, of human beings. And the founders and the writers of that constitution and those bills of rights understood that everyday people, um, You, me, whether you're in a militia or not, should always have that right protected by them, by the government. And instead, these elements of government people, elected officials, continue to try and chip away at the Constitution. And it's really gotten bad in a lot of other areas. But it's still, they never let up, do they, Dan, on guns?
00:55:04
Speaker 3: Never.
00:55:05
Speaker 4: No, and the thing is, we can justify, we can actually justify the need if we had to. We could justify it a hundred ways. But we don't have to. And the funny part about it is we tend to be put in this defensive position a lot of the time when they say that, and we find ourselves trying to justify our need.
00:55:31
Speaker 9: And, and I, I'm always telling gun owners, Hey, listen, you don't even, you.
00:55:37
Speaker 1: No, no, you don't.
00:55:39
Speaker 2: You, you, you kind of, you kind of went away into a sounded underwater there for a second, Dan, but go ahead and repeat what you just said.
00:55:47
Speaker 7: It's all right.
00:55:48
Speaker 9: Well, yeah. So we don't need to justify it. We can respond.
00:55:53
Speaker 4: With, by saying, you know, what did need to become a metric by which we measure rights? It, It simply hasn't, but in their mind, it does. And the funny thing is, you'll hear them say things like, well.
00:56:08
Speaker 9: You went out today.
00:56:13
Speaker 1: You went out today.
00:56:15
Speaker 9: Did somebody try to attack you? Did somebody try to gun you down?
00:56:21
Speaker 4: Did you need your gun today?
00:56:24
Speaker 9: And you say, well, no, I didn't. Well, then why do you carry it?
00:56:27
Speaker 4: And I mean, the same thing could, you know, we could turn that question around too. And we could ask them, well, I did carry my gun all day and my.
00:56:35
Speaker 9: Gun didn't hurt anyone today. Right. So why, why do you need to take it away?
00:56:44
Speaker 2: So what's being, what's being done on an official level? What, what politician is still, I saw, I don't know, it was one of the DSA candidates. I mean, not surprising. One of the DSA candidates that won their primary and is up for election in a very heavily Democrat area. I forget where it was, whether it was Michigan or Minnesota. But there was some issue where somebody got shot. And she goes, the problem is guns.
00:57:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
00:57:16
Speaker 1: The problem is not behavior. It's, it's guns.
00:57:20
Speaker 2: If the, if the guns weren't there, then the behavior would certainly be different.
00:57:24
Speaker 1: No, right.
00:57:26
Speaker 4: It's not the fact that I, that I told my DA or my attorney general rather to, to, to let the, let these bad guys back.
00:57:34
Speaker 9: Out onto the streets. No, that's not the problem.
00:57:37
Speaker 1: No, it's the guns. It must be the guns.
00:57:40
Speaker 9: It must be.
00:57:42
Speaker 4: But the thing is you get these governors, these, these blue state governors are bail reform and early release and they're letting them out. And they, they're, they're trying to create, at least it looks that way. They're, they're trying to create a, a victim predator society. And, you know, and then they try to blame the guns. I suppose, you know, if, if they didn't have the violence, they would have no reason to try to ban guns. So they need to perpetuate that violence and keep it going because anytime a criminal gang member or anybody goes, uses a gun to hurt somebody that's more fuel for them to push for new legislation and the legislation always depends on us the good guys you know ironically we're the we're the we're their biggest opposition their political opposition we're the ones that the democrats don't want to have.
00:58:35
Speaker 2: Guns certainly not because of if if they overstep their grounds uh they know that They're going to have to face you guys. And if they took your guns away, they would just roll all over us, Dan. The same politicians, those same people, the same political parties that are always suspect number one when it comes to gun grabbing in America. You have dealt in the state of New York with Kathy Hochul for a long, long time. time, who has tried in every way to skirt and to pervert the Second Amendment in the state of New York. What is her opponent's stand on gun rights?
00:59:28
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully Kathy Hochul's reign of terror is coming to an end. We can only hope now. I, uh, uh, unfortunately, at least Stefanik who would have been running against her, she pulled out for some reason. I, I know at least a little bit, we talked a few times and she was great.
00:59:45
Speaker 9: Now we have Bruce Blakeman.
00:59:48
Speaker 3: He seems to.
00:59:48
Speaker 9: Be doing, he seems to be doing really well.
00:59:51
Speaker 4: And we've, I've been in contact with his campaign manager and.
00:59:56
Speaker 9: You know, they're, when it comes to gun rights, he's, they're saying all the right things.
01:00:01
Speaker 4: Um, they're, they're looking pretty good as far as, uh, you know, protecting and, and preserving our second amendment rights in New York. There's a lot of stuff that he'd have to turn around.
01:00:11
Speaker 9: Uh, like the New York safe act and in.
01:00:14
Speaker 4: These sensitive locations, there's a whole ton and the, and the licensing requirements and, uh, training courses and all the mandatory and the background checks that go to the state police, uh, uh, for registration.
01:00:26
Speaker 9: And there's so much stuff here in New York that he's, he's going to have.
01:00:29
Speaker 4: To unwind and his, they know that me and some others are, are waiting for him to win this election. And, um, we're happy to help him happy to advise him. And, uh, hopefully we can get some of that stuff unwound.
01:00:43
Speaker 1: Do you think he is, his chances are good to beat Hochul?
01:00:47
Speaker 9: It's starting to look good.
01:00:48
Speaker 4: It's starting to almost look like they're neck and neck. It just depends on how much cheating the Democrats can get away with in New York.
01:00:55
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, when you don't have to show an ID to vote, you know, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
01:01:02
Speaker 4: Hopefully, hopefully we're putting some, some, you know, uh, some safeguards in place. Um, I'm not too privy on that stuff, but, uh, you know, our fingers are crossed.
01:01:14
Speaker 2: All right. Well, um, The other question, and I mentioned DSA candidates specifically. I mean, the difference between socialism and communism is socialism puts government in charge of everything and communists make sure they grab the guns. And these people are not a far leap away from being full on hammer and sickle. And they would love to be in power And they would love to subvert and pervert. They want to tear up the Constitution anyway. They think it's unnecessary. But certainly one of the tenets of them tearing up the Constitution, the Second Amendment would have a huge target on it if they got control of the Supreme Court or anything else.
01:02:11
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think.
01:02:13
Speaker 4: Well, we have to wrap our heads around, our minds around, and it's hard to do, but we have to wrap our minds around the fact that they really just don't like America. And they live in it, and they enjoy the benefits of being an American, but they really don't like it, and they don't.
01:02:27
Speaker 9: Appreciate our founding. They don't appreciate our principles.
01:02:31
Speaker 4: They don't appreciate just all the great things, all the freedoms that America brings.
01:02:37
Speaker 9: So understanding that much helps us see– where they're really going.
01:02:42
Speaker 1: And you're right.
01:02:42
Speaker 9: From socialism to communism, that's like, it won't take long.
01:02:47
Speaker 3: No.
01:02:48
Speaker 4: Actually, that's what they're waiting for.
01:02:51
Speaker 9: Socialism is just getting them in the door.
01:02:54
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, technically, we've been a socialist country for a long time because of all of these government programs, whether it be Social Security, health care, Medicare, whatever, food stamps, pick one. Those are all socialistic programs that I don't think could be taken away at this point. They probably could be better managed. There's no question about that. But the difference, I've been told, between socialism and communism is about five years.
01:03:29
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wouldn't even think that long.
01:03:32
Speaker 2: We're knocking on the door right now of this, depending on what happens in these midterm elections and the next presidential election. It's scary times. I mean, to be living in the country and, you know, all the more reason that, you know, I might need a gun. I might need a gun.
01:03:50
Speaker 9: You think? I might need a gun. Might be a good idea.
01:03:55
Speaker 2: Anything else on your radar you wanted to just pop in with here?
01:04:01
Speaker 4: As we just said, I just that idea of, of socialism is it's, it's really scary.
01:04:08
Speaker 9: I think the good news.
01:04:10
Speaker 4: Is a lot of people are starting to recognize what they're trying to do.
01:04:14
Speaker 9: And, you know, I'm, I'm.
01:04:16
Speaker 4: Hearing some of these reports on the polls and some of the early voting and it's not looking bad for us. It's actually looking pretty good. So, I mean, keep our hopes up and definitely get out to vote. But you know, it was, if it wasn't for president Trump, this is the amazing thing about this guy. He is changing so much and he's making people so aware of what the Democrats have been up to for decades.
01:04:40
Speaker 9: And, uh, he's, he's stopping them as best he can.
01:04:44
Speaker 2: What he's done, Dan, is he's pulled back the curtain on him to, to reveal who they really are. And before they could hide, they were like, uh, wolves in sheep's clothing, but now they're, they're blatant to, to come out and say it because as you mentioned, president Trump has pointed it out. Um, they, they don't have a way to hide their, uh, their evil intent anymore because again, we know that they don't like America. They hate our founding. They hate our, our values. Uh, and they would love to replace it with something that would be awful. And it's been awful. Every place it's been tried around the world. But when people are looking for Danny was where, where can they find him again? I know you're do YouTube and you do all kinds of things.
01:05:34
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:05:34
Speaker 9: You can go to good gun, bad guy.com.
01:05:37
Speaker 4: Good gun, bad guy.com.
01:05:40
Speaker 9: Uh, that's my website. You can find me on.
01:05:42
Speaker 4: All the socials and I have a show called the loaded mic. Uh, and that, uh, airs every night on every night, every night.
01:05:49
Speaker 9: Every weeknight live on the social. So Dan was D A N W O S.com. And good gun, bad guy.
01:05:58
Speaker 1: All right. And by the way, for folks, loaded mic, the mic is spelled M-I-C, right?
01:06:04
Speaker 3: Yes.
01:06:05
Speaker 1: If you type in M-I-K-E, I don't even want to tell you.
01:06:10
Speaker 7: All right, Dan. You'll see some drunk guy falling off a parking lot.
01:06:17
Speaker 1: Oh, God, if that were the case, it wouldn't be that bad. All right. Dan was good gun. Bad guy.
01:06:23
Speaker 2: Dot com. Check him out. Thank you, sir. The wild man right around the corner. Tori, as we round third and head for home on this Tuesday night cap. And I can't think of a finer way to finish with the flourish than by introducing our friend, the sports commando. The wild man is back. And I'm sure he has more than just a few thoughts. The Bengals came Sunday in Miami. And by the way, Wildman, I want to note, in case you didn't notice, the Bengals played in Miami on Sunday, and Stanley Wilson still didn't show up.
01:07:02
Speaker 7: He still didn't show up.
01:07:03
Speaker 2: 45 years later, they're still looking for Stanley Wilson, chasing hookers and cocaine on Biscayne Boulevard.
01:07:14
Speaker 7: Well, I don't want to make you feel bad, but I think Stanley Wilson is no longer with us. So that's why.
01:07:18
Speaker 1: Well, maybe that's why he didn't show up.
01:07:21
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:23
Speaker 1: What a waste of talent.
01:07:24
Speaker 7: What a waste of a great talent.
01:07:26
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. That's the biggest game of your life.
01:07:30
Speaker 2: You think about this and I'm sure you've thought about it and talked about it ever since that.
01:07:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. Superbowl.
01:07:37
Speaker 2: So here, here's, here's my thing as a kid. You're playing football with your friends. You're throwing the football around. Maybe you have a little game of two-hand touch or whatever.
01:07:49
Speaker 1: Notepads.
01:07:49
Speaker 2: And you're out there and you're thinking that you're in the Super Bowl. And it's everything you could imagine. Being in the biggest game of all time. And you're right there in the middle of it. And you think about that all through your childhood. All through playing high school football and into college. And then your chance comes. And you decide to do what Stanley Wilson did instead of showing up. That's just, that's always blown my mind, really.
01:08:21
Speaker 7: And the Bengals back then really didn't have people, you know, watching the players and that kind of stuff.
01:08:26
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter.
01:08:28
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who's watching. It's just, this is your chance.
01:08:32
Speaker 7: He kind of threw it all away. Not only that, you know, Gary, I mean, I was down there front and center, so I saw it all. There were so many things. I hate to rehash this because it pains me, but there were so many things that went wrong leading up to the game that the Bengals still almost won that game. That's why I don't know why the football gods didn't let us win. I mean, you had Stanley Wilson going cuckoo. He had Tim Grumry breaking his leg. You had the field, the field. Somebody left the water on overnight, which made the Bengals running game impossible to go up the middle. They had to go left or right. So the field was a muddy mess. And Boomer Esiason, they kept it quiet, but he had a bad shoulder. And through all that, David Grant played his ass off in place and play some crumb rye. And then you had the drop pass by Lewis Billups. Man, you could have caught that ball. He catches the ball, the game's over. I mean, it's just like, oh, my God, what more could go wrong? I mean, just everything. It's just that's the most painful Super Bowl loss. It really is. You don't even compare to the one up in Pontiac or the one out in L.A. That one there, we should have won. We really should have. And Jim Breach would have been MVP, and he would never have had to buy a meal again in this town. or any of the, or any of the guys, you know, sure.
01:09:53
Speaker 2: You're not, when you're playing in the super bowl, you don't think about if your meals are going to be paid from, from now on. And that's, it goes back to the Stanley Wilson thing. You're playing in the super bowl and you can't show up.
01:10:06
Speaker 1: I mean, geez. All right. So, so, so Sunday.
01:10:10
Speaker 7: Cocaine, cocaine, cocaine gets ahold of you, man. That's how you can do about it. You know, it's hard to break it.
01:10:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:10:17
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's not a part of my life.
01:10:20
Speaker 7: Damn right, never been part of mine. I don't think I'm crazy enough.
01:10:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are.
01:10:25
Speaker 2: Okay, let's shift gears to this past Sunday. Now you've had some extra time to digest what went down and what didn't go down. The Bengals didn't go down to their third loss, but they were playing arguably the worst team in the NFL, no question.
01:10:46
Speaker 7: The Bengals win, and people are going to say, well, it's a win. Yeah, it's a win, but it was a garbage win. There's a thing in basketball called garbage time, where guys just go up and down the court the last four minutes and score in baskets, and nobody... Nobody cares. And at the end, the score is close, but the game was out of hand. That was a garbage win in every sense of the word. I mean, it gets a lousy team and a quarterback who probably shouldn't even be playing in the National Football League. On the positive side of the Bengals running game with P. Ryan and Chase Brown did a fine job. I don't know what's going on with Chase Brown. He just can't find any holes.
01:11:24
Speaker 1: But P.
01:11:25
Speaker 7: Ryan runs hard. I don't think he's an everyday running back. I got I see people say, oh, he should be the number one running back, whatever, but whatever it is, P Ryan runs hard and it gives him another option. The best thing that came out of that, that, that, that win was Jamar chase and T Higgins playing. Now, why, why? Because they showed that they showed to the other players how much they love playing football and how much they want to win. I mean, they didn't have to play in that game. They could have set out and they probably still would have won that game. But then you had in that game, So many dumb penalties. Oh, my God. Lousy tackling. And he still can't stop the run. And here we come. Two weeks from today, Derrick Henry. That guy is a semi. And they better find out a way to stop him because they're going to run Derrick Henry and Mark Andrews, the tight end. You know, they can't stop tight ends. And they can't stop their running backs. And that's where it starts and goes. I don't know if Lamar Jackson will play. But the good thing about this is we've got two weeks to prepare. I hate saying we. The Bengals have two weeks to prepare. They know the Ravens. The Ravens know us. No secrets there. But Derrick Henry, I mean, that's one tall, tall order. And also, you look down the road, you got B. John Robinson, you know, the Atlanta Falcons looming. So they got a couple guys that they got to learn how to stop the run and learn how to tackle it better. They must start tackling it better.
01:12:52
Speaker 2: They have had incredible problems stopping tight ends thus far, the defense has, and the run. But it just seems like the Bengals don't have the physical size. Once they get into the defensive secondary, defensive backfield, they seem not to have the size to tackle people. Uh, you know, like, uh, the, the tight end you mentioned for, for Baltimore, uh, Andrews always, Andrews always kills them.
01:13:23
Speaker 3: Always.
01:13:24
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:13:25
Speaker 7: A lot of that Gary Jeff is taking the right angles on the guy and trying and wrapping them up.
01:13:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:13:29
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, wrap, wrap it up. Don't try to tackle him up high. Don't try to knock him out of bounds, wrapping them up. And you saw early on in the season, they were doing that. Now they're gotten away from that. You got to wrap these guys up. I don't care how big they are. You tackle them down low and pull them down and get some help over there. But you see so many guys trying to arm tackle guys and trying to knock them out of bounds. That doesn't work. And if they don't get it together, they're in deep doo-doo. The running game was okay, but Joe Burrow had a decent day back there. The Bengals just lost Hudson, the tight end, for the rest of the year. It's a pectoral injury. So he's out. So now they've got to find somebody else that can play tight end. But you've got to stop the stupid penalties. You've got to stop foaming on the ball. You've got to stop the mental mistakes. The mental mistakes are killing them. Like I said, they've got two weeks to clean it up. This isn't the end of the season. I mean, my God, they're 3-2. I'd rather be 3-2 than 2-3.
01:14:25
Speaker 3: Sure.
01:14:29
Speaker 2: Well, I think, too, that they're going to have to– you're talking about the lack of being able to tackle the tight ends and the running back once they break the line of scrimmage and get in the defensive backfield. And the thing that kills me more than arm tackling or not wrapping them up The Superman leap. Somebody comes flying from the side thinking that they're going to be a projectile that's going to knock this player down. And this player's three times your size. You're just going to bounce off like a bullet off Superman's chest.
01:15:07
Speaker 7: That's what's going to happen with Derrick Henry or Andrews. If they don't stop those guys, the defense has got to play much better at this game. probably against anything they've played so far.
01:15:21
Speaker 1: This could be a blowout.
01:15:22
Speaker 7: This could be one ugly, ugly loss. But they've got two weeks to repair. They know the Ravens. They know Derek Henry. It's not no secret. Let's get it on here.
01:15:34
Speaker 2: You mentioned how pathetic Malik Willis was, the quarterback for the Dolphins, and he was sad. It was like watching an eighth grader trying to play against NFL players.
01:15:46
Speaker 1: Excuse me.
01:15:47
Speaker 2: But What I wonder is how in the world did they score 24 points?
01:15:54
Speaker 9: How?
01:15:55
Speaker 1: How does that happen? How did that.
01:15:57
Speaker 2: Team score at all with a quarterback that insufficient and unable?
01:16:04
Speaker 7: The defensive secondary kind of let down, let guys get open, not making the tackles. When they did run the ball towards the end, they weren't making the tackles. It really started with the linebackers on the way back. I mean, the front four, the front five had been putting pressure on him all day. They were getting burned on the running game. And the running game breaking tackles. That starts with our linebackers taking the right angles and wrapping them up. And you see some guys, some of the guys, they get, they get burned up every, every play they get burned or every other play, they get burned by the same play. It's like, my God, you know, there's how golden to see this. Can they make an adjustment? And then, and then you had, you know, the Bengals, when they, when they were driving the ball, they made some stupid penalty. This means of dumb penalties at tight end alt, you know, hitting a guy with his helmet. I mean, that guy should never went back on the field.
01:17:00
Speaker 1: It was just so stupid.
01:17:02
Speaker 7: It was a sloppy garbage win. I mean, I wouldn't even have shown that. I don't know why I wouldn't even have shown that to the players. I don't know if they even should look at it. Maybe the defense should. All the time I went there showing it. But the defense should have looked at it. It was garbage. It was a hard game to watch.
01:17:20
Speaker 3: You know what?
01:17:20
Speaker 2: And the interception burrow through. Boy, who did he think he was throwing to? I mean, it was right to the Dolphin player.
01:17:32
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:17:33
Speaker 1: And Joe doesn't get fooled like that.
01:17:37
Speaker 2: But something happened on that player, miscommunication with the receiver or something, because that's something you rarely, if ever, see out of Joe Burrow, out of number nine. So looking ahead to the bye week, do you foresee any big changes?
01:17:55
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:17:56
Speaker 2: Is it still possible that sometime this season, common sanity will break out somewhere in the Bengals' front office and Zach Taylor will hand the play-calling duties off to somebody else?
01:18:11
Speaker 1: Because that has to happen.
01:18:13
Speaker 7: You know, I know, but 90% of Bengals' nation would love to see Zach Taylor give up the play-calling duties, either to Joe Burrow or the offensive coordinator.
01:18:24
Speaker 2: I think it ought to be Burrow. I think it ought to be Burrow. I think it ought to be because that guy is a field general. He sees everything except that player from the Dolphins when he threw right into his arms. But generally, Joe, generally number nine sees the field. He knows the offense. He knows the players around him better than anybody else. Let Joe Burrow call the plays.
01:18:47
Speaker 7: I've made the argument. I've made the argument. with you a number of times. If Peyton Manning can call his own plays and a few other guys, why can't Joe Burrow? Why are the Bengals going to be so hard-headed? What's with Zach Taylor's ego? Coach the game. Coach the game. It's bad enough he's so bad at clock management. Just coach the game.
01:19:08
Speaker 1: All right. Is there anything else we can cover here in the few.
01:19:12
Speaker 7: Minutes we've got? Oh, I got a slight case of the goo.
01:19:17
Speaker 1: All right, go.
01:19:18
Speaker 7: A slight case of the goo. This would be, I don't know. I saw it on Facebook a couple days ago. The Beach Boys out there still performing. And they're trotting out Mike Love, one of the main guys. He cannot even sing. He can hardly stand. They got him sitting in a chair. And it just looks so sad. And they say that he wants to do it. But you know what? There comes to a point where you don't need to see that. Some people are going to say, well, Ozzy did it. Well, that's Ozzy. That's different. Mike Love and the Beach Boys are Or, you know, rock and roll icons. To see Mike Love come out there, he could barely walk, like I said. He's sitting in a chair, and he's got a microphone. He can't sing. I mean, they need to stop that. It just looks bad. I mean, it's almost like, you know, elder abuse that they bring him out there. I don't know. And the Beach Boys are one of my favorite bands of all time, man. I mean, they've got so many great songs. And to see Mike Love out there. I interviewed Mike Love years ago. In fact, I interviewed him, Gary. The first time the Beach Boys came to town. He was a great guy. Him and Carl Wilson. I got to talk to them both. But to see that on stage, I'm going, oh, man, there's no need for that.
01:20:31
Speaker 3: There's just none.
01:20:33
Speaker 7: The family ought to say, you know what, Mike? We love you. You've had your day in the sun, and you don't need to do this.
01:20:39
Speaker 2: It's kind of like Jill Biden carting Joe back out time and time again.
01:20:43
Speaker 7: Right.
01:20:43
Speaker 1: And telling him to run.
01:20:45
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:20:47
Speaker 7: And Beach Boy fans, I know there's some that are saying, well, it's up to him. It just looks bad. It just looks bad and sad. I mean, when you see him sitting on the chair, it looks like he could, you know, he could go anytime. And that's how bad it looks.
01:21:06
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you were, if you were, if you were Mike Love, if you were Mike Love, wouldn't you want to go on stage and go out that way? Maybe that's what they're maybe, maybe they'll, they'll be one concert where he just, he just expires right there in that chair on stage.
01:21:27
Speaker 7: Maybe since he's the main guy that still holds, you know, that says what goes and what doesn't go, if you decide that's what he wants. But to me, it just looks bad and sad.
01:21:36
Speaker 3: It really is.
01:21:37
Speaker 1: Is there anything else?
01:21:38
Speaker 7: Give me a case of the goo. That's all I've got.
01:21:41
Speaker 2: That's good goo, and I appreciate you depositing it on our listeners' ears this evening.
01:21:47
Speaker 1: Wild Man Walker, as always. And I'm back home. I'm back home. Good for you.
01:21:52
Speaker 7: And I'm back home.
01:21:55
Speaker 2: All right, they finally took the straight jacket and the rubber room out of your lifestyle.
01:22:00
Speaker 7: Yeah, I said, get out of here, get.
01:22:03
Speaker 2: All right, well, we'll talk about something next week. I don't know what we'll talk about, but we'll figure it out.
01:22:09
Speaker 7: Well, we'll probably have the World Series matchups right now. So, hey, we'll be talking about the World Series.
01:22:14
Speaker 1: There you go.
01:22:14
Speaker 2: The wild man on the nightcap here on 700 WLW.
01:22:18
Speaker 1: Back to wrap up next.
Speaker 1: Tuesday evening, October 13th, 2026.
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Speaker 2: Gary Jeff Walker sitting down, checking in, getting ready to roll. In just a few minutes, we'll be talking to L.A.
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Speaker 1: Marzulli.
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Speaker 2: Fun name, huh? Had him on the show one other time, and he's got this film out called Rungs of Disclosure about UAPs, UFOs, close encounters, extraterrestrials, interdimensional beings, or something even more sinister. And he says he's got biblical proof to back up that it is something indeed more sinister. And it's referenced in the ancient text of God's holy word.
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Speaker 1: So L.A.
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Speaker 2: Marzulli will be around to address us in just a few moments after the commercial break. Also, Amanda Grace, who is an amazing, amazing pastor, And we'll get her perspective on the midterms and everything else.
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Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Archaeology returns.
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Speaker 2: It's a replay of this past Saturday's show with Jim LaBarber, the music professor, and myself. And around 1030, Joelle Mom. It's kind of a God show tonight. Who's another pastor from just outside of San Antonio, Texas. And he takes people on expeditions, on journeys to exciting places. from the Grand Canyon to South America. And he's got some interesting stories, plus a new book called The Circle Perspective. Plus, we will also talk with the wild man before we're done. And Dan was my good gun, bad guy guy.
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Good gun, bad guy guy. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Anyway, L.A.
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Speaker 2: Marzulli on the Nephilim and the biblical implications of... flying saucers extraterrestrial or not hmm anyway we'll get the inside scoop as we continue after this on 700 wlw it is the second bite at the nightcap apple for our next guest our first guest tonight uh but I've wanted to have him on multiple times and just never could get the schedules to match up. But today, we're all in luck, or at least I think it's luck, to have L.A. Marzulli back. He is an author, a lecturer, and a filmmaker. And rungs of disclosure. Following the trail of extraterrestrials and the end times is the topic of this incredible collection of people's stories. And where the connection between the Bible and UFOs intersect. And he's got some really, really powerful stories and some powerful evidence as well, as you will hear in the next few minutes. L.A., Marzulli, welcome back to the show.
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Speaker 1: How are you?
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Speaker 3: I'm great, and thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it. Now.
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Speaker 2: People have all kinds of hypotheses, theories about what's behind UFOs or UAPs, they're now being called, and the close encounters that people have experienced.
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Speaker 1: But you definitely have taken, and.
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Speaker 2: With sufficient evidence, I believe, you have taken this to a level that intersects with ancient texts And ancient peoples or beings that have come back, the Nephilim, I believe is what they're called.
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Speaker 1: Is that correct?
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a very complex scenario, very, very complex. Nephilim are the progeny of fallen angels and human women. So that results in the flood, but there's also a second, third ongoing incursions even into modernity. It's always changing through the centuries. But the copulation, the literal copulation between fallen angelic entities and human women, it's right there in the book of Jude. It tells us angels left their first estate. But what does that mean? right? And the whole idea of the flood, and that, of course, is taken in the book of Jude. It's taken from the book of Enoch, which we don't read. It's not part of our canon. I understand that. But it was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, multiple copies. It's the first book in the Ethiopian Bible, so which Bible? I get it. In the West, it's King James only, and I get all that. But we have to put all that sort of on the back burner and realize that the Greek Orthodox Church Bible, their Bible is different than the Catholic Bible, which is different than the King James. So I look at all that, and that to me is like infighting, and I don't hold anything really sacrosanct. I lean heavily towards, you know, the King James or the New King James, but there's multiple translations. So the point being is this. The book of Enoch tells us that these angels came down. Why are they doing this? Because they're trying to contaminate the genome. Because we know from Genesis 3.15, which is the gateway to the Bible. Thank you, Gary Stearman, for teaching me this. But Genesis 3.15 is the gateway to the entire biblical prophetic narrative. It sets up the seed war, where the pre-incarnate Christ is in the garden with the dragon and Adam and Eve. And he looks at the dragon and says, your seed, your offspring. So you can tap dance around that until the cows come home and say, well, it really doesn't mean what it says. It's literal. The seed of the dragon will be at war at enmity with the seed, the offspring of the woman. The offspring of the woman, not Eve, but through her line, will be the proto-evangelium, will be the Mashiach, the Messiah, who will crush the dragon's head. Now, the dragon isn't stupid. He knows who he's looking at in the garden. He knows who the Son of God is. He knows that. So what does he do? It's full-tilt boogie, if I can go back 40 years and use that phrase. But it's true, absolutely all day long. And this is where the Genesis 6 narrative comes in, because the sons of God saw the daughters of men as they were beautiful, who were the sons of God, the b'nei ha'elohim, always referring to the angelic host. There are a lot of Christian brothers and sisters out there who hold to the Sethite theory. But the Sapphite theory isn't invented until the 3rd century. And then Augustine picks it up in the 4th century. And the Sapphite theory, well, these are the godly lot of Seth and the Hushimamas of Cain, but that's a huge stretch. These are fallen angels. They are coming down. They are doing the unthinkable. They are creating a hybrid being known as the Nephilim. So Jesus says we'll be like the days of Noah when I return. Well, this is why it's so important to get the exegesis, the interpretation of Genesis 3.15. Because if we get that, when we get to Genesis 6, oh, here's the seed war. erupting, manifesting on steroids. And then happens at Sodom and Gomorrah, Tower of Babel, Abraham and the Five Kings, finally the conquest of Canaan. The Nephilim tribes are there. The Zanzimim, the Imams, the Anakim, they're all there in the land. And the seed war reaches sort of a climax because the seed of the dragon is in the promised land. And the seed of Abraham, which will become the Messiah, is getting ready to go in and take the promised land.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: So that's a lot for anybody who's listening to this. And you encapsulate kind of like the whole theory in a couple of minutes.
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Speaker 1: But I.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Here you go. Here you go.
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Speaker 3: I get it. I hear the exasperation.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: So, but, but that does jive with, uh, these tales of alien encounters where there is probing. There is, uh, people think they're being implanted with, with things, uh, actually babies being implanted after their encounter with, uh, whatever the Nephilim or the extraterrestrials, whatever you want to call them. But these are not extraterrestrials in the sense of people thinking, oh, this is from another galaxy.
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Speaker 1: This is from another planet.
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Speaker 2: These are extraterrestrial as in they were in heaven. They fell to earth. And so have they always been here, L.A.
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Speaker 3: Yes, they've been with us for thousands of years. They're the gods of antiquity. When you look at the Ancient Aliens History Channel show, which has been on for over a decade. By the way, I was on the first two seasons of that show, and they didn't like what I was promulgating. I was heavily edited, so I never went back, but I digress. So the Anunnaki, which is, you know, all New Agers, all the Anunnaki, blah, blah, blah. These are nothing more than fallen angels. That's all they are. And, you know, they're treated and looked at as gods. The gods of Greek mythos are nothing more, in my opinion, than the fallen angelic hosts of heaven. Chuck Musser did a great study on this. you know, in the 90s, talking about Greek mythos might not be mythos. In other words, what we're looking at is centaurs, minotaurs, and fauns, and these other creations that are in Greek mythos are, in fact, they were on the earth in those days. Because we know, again, from the book of Enoch, it tells us that the fallen angels sinned against the animal kingdom. And what does that mean? There's genetic tampering. We're doing it now. We can do it in modernity. We can take, I remember this, talking to a guy at Amgen decades ago. I mean, this is like before the 2000s. So it's like 95, 96. And this is, you know, decades ago. And this guy told me that they can take the genes, get this, of a firefly and And they can splice those genes from a firefighter that lights up, right? And put that into a frog. Guess what? The frog lights up. And this is, again, this is 40 years ago. 40 years ago.
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Speaker 2: So imagine where the technology is now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, who knows? Right.
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Speaker 1: So they've always been here.
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Speaker 2: And do you think they've continually been having relations with Earthly women all along, just like they did back in the day?
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Speaker 3: Okay, this is where we get into the abduction phenomenon. We have a film on this. All of our films right now are a buck each. You can watch them all on streaming.lamarzulli.net. Streaming.lamarzulli.net. They're all a buck. And they're all full-length documentary films. And, of course, we can't get the first base on Netflix or Prime Video. Gee, I wonder why, but I digress as usual. So in our film on abductions, there are two men and two women. All have been taken numerous times. The women have been impregnated by them. Karen, for instance, we publish her book, Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. And this is classic. This is the way it works. A woman is taken. She doesn't remember being taken, but she finds herself pregnant. And she goes to her OBGYN. Yep, you're pregnant. This is great. Look at the heartbeat. All is good. And the third month of her pregnancy, she's reabducted. And the fetus, the hybrid fetus is taken. And she wakes up the next morning. She's bleeding. Go to the OBGYN. No fetal tissue. No, nothing's there. And the OBGYN will go, well, we know you were pregnant. We saw the heartbeat. This is all in the film. And so, yes, it's going on. And where do you go with this? In the beginning of the film, I do like a monologue and talk about this and say, you know, who do you reach out to? You know, who do you even talk about it with? And you can't. And that's why it's so important that some of these well-meaning Christians, and we did a rebuttal on this. I'm not going to mention the man's name, but he was talking about, you know, the angels don't have the plumbing. Excuse me, sir, you have no idea what you're talking about. None. No idea. And you need to repent because what you're doing is putting a stigma against these people that have been traumatized by this event. And it goes against scripture because the breeding program is going on now. It's continuing. Hybrids are walking amongst us, as strange as it may seem. They are. We've had accounts. It's all in our films. This is deep research. We've taken out an implant. Bread bear. Let me let me let me pivot over to Brett Baier. OK, Brett Baier is probably the most conservative voice on the planet. Let's face it. You know, this guy is just straight up straight shooter. No nonsense guy. And it's one of the wrongs and the wrongs of disclosure. Brett Baier states in a bizarre post that some women who find themselves on board UFOs become pregnant. Well, that's our wheelhouse. And this is Brett Baer. This is Fox News. This isn't George Norrie, whom I love. I've been on his show too many times to count. But this is Brett Baer. This is Fox News. And the church needs to understand that there's, number one, a physicality to the phenomena. Number two, it ties right back into Scripture. Number three, these are not, you know, wisps or phantoms. There is nuts and bolts technology, which is used by the good guys and the bad guys. It's very, very complex technology.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I think as a believing Christian myself, L.A., I can believe that there are these encounters going on. I mean, I'm not keeping my head in the sand about this or just disavowing anything you're talking about because of my faith. My faith allows that.
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Speaker 1: These angels exist. I know the angels existed, the fallen angels existed.
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Speaker 2: Because Lucifer is still warring with us right now as we wait for Jesus' return. So how does this foretell, rungs of disclosure, how does it foretell the end times?
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Speaker 3: Well, we know that Jesus warns us. I mean, and I talk about this at conferences. There are those women in the church who say, well, you know, we're not going to talk politics or we're not going to talk about UFOs or UAPs or extraterrestrials. We're just Jesus only. So I usually start a presentation with the Jesus only crowd because what it does is it warns people and diffuses people. So Jesus says that even the elect will be deceived if that were possible because the powers of heaven will be shaken. That's not a happy message. Jesus warns us that we'll be like the days of Noah when I return. I mean, you know, what do you do with that? What do you do with that? Even the elect will be deceived, the days of Noah. Men fade from fear, from what is coming upon the earth. That's Jesus. Then Paul adds to that. Satan comes with all signs and lying wonders. Then later on in 2 Thessalonians, because they did not believe the truth, God allows, sends them a lie. Then we get to 1 Timothy 4, verse 1. The Spirit expressly states, expressly states, underline that, the Spirit expressly states that on the latter days, the last days, some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and the doctrines of demons. You know, you put all that together, and you're looking at something which is unprecedented, an event that is unprecedented. Number one, we are definitely in the days of Noah. The breeding program is happening. So you say to yourself, well, why now? Well, again, if you're an amillennialist, then you don't take prophecy literally. And most churches are amillennial, unfortunately. I'm a charismatic dispensationalist, so we're in the dispensation of grace. And I believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. specifically in the liberal interpretation of Scripture and prophecy. So when it tells us that Israel, you know, is God's prophetic time clock. That's one of the terms I kind of coined. When we go to Amos 9, 14 and 15, and by the way, all these scriptures are in my heart. I wear them on my sleeve. I recite them daily, usually at two or three in the morning, but I recite them because it's part of who I am. It's what I am. So when I'm on shows like you, I'm not reading notes. I'm rattling it off because it's It's in my heart. It's in my head. It's part of what I am. So we know this, Amos 9, 14 and 15, that I will bring back the captives of my people, Israel. Check. They will build the way cities and inhabit them. Check. They will also plant vineyards and drink the wine from them. Check. They will also plant garden to fruit from them. I will plant them in their land and never again. Never again will they be plucked up out of the land they have given them, says Lord your God. May 14th, 1948, that scripture, Amos 9, 14 and 15, was being read in every single synagogue because they're all linked up. They read portions of the Torah and the Haftor and the minor prophets. They're all in sync. They're all reading from the same thing. May 14th, 1948, that week they're all reading Amos 9, 14 and 15. Coincidence? I think not. Israel is God's prophetic time clock. And they will look on him, Jesus, Yeshua, whom they have fears, and mourn for him as an only son. That's prophecy. That's the future. But they are God's prophetic time clock. And isn't it interesting, you get 19, and this is all in the book, runs in Disclosure. But 1945, you get the two bombs dropped, Nagasaki and Hiroshima. That's a signal to the fallen ones, because they're looking at a Luciferian kingdom. They know that that's their trigger. They see through time differently than we do. They're not all-knowing. They can't see all of time, but they see through time differently, and they know somehow that that's the trigger. Well, guess what? 1947, you get Roswell. We have two films on Roswell. We actually went to the debris field and picked out a piece of the metal in the debris field, went to a lab. This is all in our film, but I digress. So 45, the two bombs, 47 Roswell. Why Roswell? Because the 509th bombing group is stationed at Roswell, New Mexico. The 509th dropped those two atomic bombs. 48 Israel, it becomes a nation. The entire UFO, UAP phenomenon, as we know today, takes off. The elements were there.
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Speaker 1: I was afraid this was going to happen.
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Speaker 2: We're running out of time. So give the address again for people to find your documentaries.
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Speaker 3: Thank you. Just go to streaming.lamarzulli.net or lamarzulli.com. That's the website. And, you know, Gary, thanks for having me on. But, you know, there's like 34 films and 16 books, and we've just scratched the surface. People need to do their homework. And let's do it again soon.
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Speaker 1: All right. Hopefully there's an opportunity for us to do just that.
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Speaker 3: L.A.
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Speaker 2: Marzulli on the Nightcap. Amanda Grace, coming up after news. Up next tonight, we've got a first-time guest. When I heard what she was all about and what she was doing, I said, I want that woman on the show.
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Speaker 1: And so here she is.
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Speaker 2: And after going through all kinds of hoops, I'm not even going to tell you, she has made it to the phone and on the air with us tonight, Amanda Grace, who is the author of Brace.com, for Brace of Impact, Five Rare Prophetic Events That Will Trigger a Spiritual Tipping Point, and there's an upcoming book, Prophecy 911. And I don't know if I'm pronouncing this correctly or not. I'm sure she'll correct me. Is it Purim Pattern or Purim Pattern and the Warning to America? It is Amanda Grace, the founder of Ark of Grace Ministries and our guest on the Nightcap.
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Speaker 1: Welcome, Amanda. How are you?
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Speaker 5: How are you? Thank you so much for having me. And yes, it's Purim.
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Speaker 3: Purim.
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Speaker 5: Purim pattern.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost, let's educate the host. What is the Purim pattern?
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Speaker 6: Okay, so Purim comes from the book of Esther in the Bible. And basically, the book of Esther has to do with the Jews at the time are living in the kingdom of Persia, which is now Iran. There is a man named Haman from the line of Amalek that is raised up to a very high political position in the kingdom. Haman came because King Saul, when he was told to kill all the Amalekites and destroy Amalek, he disobeyed. And so the line continued. And so Haman comes from that line. So he's raised up to a position at the same time because the Lord always knows what the enemy is going to do.
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Speaker 5: Before he does it.
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Speaker 6: He actually brings Esther into the picture and her uncle Mordecai and Esther is taken in. basically to the to the king's potential harem when he's looking for another queen she's one of the women that gets taken in the kingdom and she ends up becoming queen so now she's queen hayman ends up being raised this political position and he decides he's going to destroy all the jewish people in the kingdom and annihilate them completely And he convinces the king to do this. Now, the king doesn't even know his own wife is Jewish because she has hidden her identity. And so it's basically this amazing, incredible sequence of divine reversals on the part of almighty God that ends up saving an entire people and reversing that destruction upon Haman and his own family line. And Purim was birthed out of that. And that's why every year they celebrate Purim.
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Speaker 2: All right, so the book is Prophecy 911, The Purim Pattern and the Warning to America. How is it relatable to right now? What's going on right now, Amanda?
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Speaker 6: Okay, well, I'll show you some interesting things going on right now. So basically it relates because what is going on in Iran right now, days before Purim, is actually when the Ayatollah, ended up falling in Iran. And he actually fell, I believe it was on the ninth day of the 11th month, which would be 9-11 on their calendar.
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Speaker 5: He ends up falling. At the same time in New.
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Speaker 6: York City, this is where it gets interesting, because the Ayatollah has the name Haman hidden in his name. You can spell Haman from his name and Amalek. Not only does he have that, but Zoran Mamdani, the current mayor.
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Speaker 5: Of New York City, also has Haman hidden in his name.
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Speaker 6: And he's also raised up around the same time that we end up seeing what's happening with Iran. So we see the shadows of who Heyman was actually hidden within the individuals that actually have come to the forefront right now of what's happening, not only in this nation, but globally.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 2: That's so, so what's the warning to America all about is, is it a warning about mom Donnie? Is it, I mean, Obviously, you want people to read the book, but I'm very curious.
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Speaker 1: You got my curiosity raised.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm so glad.
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Speaker 6: So basically, why it's a warning to America, too, is because something happened this year on 9-11 that connects to everything I've just told you.
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Speaker 5: So on 9-11 this year.
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Speaker 6: Which was the 25th anniversary, Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets, actually intersected and happened on the same day. And we entered the year 5787 on the Jewish calendar, which happens to be a Jewish leap year this year, which actually contains double Purims. Because you have a Dar 1 and a Dar 2 on the calendar, and you have something called.
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Speaker 5: Purim Katan, Little Purim, and Purim.
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Speaker 6: So we literally went from 2025 Purim marked by a blood moon. We had a blood moon on Purim 2025, Purim 2026 Purim. was also marked by a blood moon in early March. Now we entered the year 5787, and now we've jumped into two Purims in the same year, which is the warning, because what happens with Purim? You have decrees of destruction that go out. So now there's a potential for double decrees of destruction to go out that we have to be very aware of that is going to take the intercession of the people of God to divinely reverse these. So we're actually entering a year where there is a great potential for that to happen.
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Speaker 2: Is this, if you're a Christian, does this portend that Jesus is on the way back?
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Speaker 1: Jesus is coming back soon?
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Speaker 6: Well, he's definitely coming back soon this year. No, I'm not too sure of that. But I will say that, yes, it's a sign of the times that we are in. If we look at what's happening globally, if we look at what's trying to raise itself up in America, you know, we have an unholy alliance right now that has formed an unholy alliance of, you know, of, you know, Democrat Islam socialism that have all fused together.
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Speaker 3: Yes, they have.
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Speaker 7: Into one.
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Speaker 6: And they're trying to rise in America. They're trying to raise, to do what?
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Speaker 5: What are they going to try to do?
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Speaker 6: Well, they're going to try to send out decrees of destruction.
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Speaker 5: This is what they're going to try to do.
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Speaker 6: So it's interesting that as this is raising up at the same time, we entered this time where it's a Jewish leap year and it happens to be double Purims of all times.
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Speaker 5: And we started it on 9-11. That's the warning right there.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 6: That's a 911. We started this on 9-11, and these are the things that we have to take notice of as believers and realize there's more prophetic implications than we thought.
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Speaker 2: I did not have a chance to go through Brace of Impact, the book before this one, and it says five rare prophetic events that will trigger a spiritual tipping point. Have we triggered that spiritual tipping point yet?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think I think we're right at the precipice of it, to be very honest with you, because after the Jewish leap.
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Speaker 5: Year ends, which would be next September.
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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.
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Speaker 6: When we when Russia happens again, we enter. Now, this is wild because then we've got the election year coming in 2028. We enter a Shemitah year on the Jewish calendar before our election year, and that happens every seven years on the Jewish calendar, and serious world events are known to happen on Shemitah years.
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Speaker 5: 9-11 happened on a Shemitah year. The global banking.
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Speaker 6: Crisis, right, and the rise of Barack Obama happened on a Shemitah year. All these things happen during Shemitah years. So we go literally from a Jewish leap year that has double Purims giving birth into a Shemitah year that sets up for the election. So we are literally right at the precipice and a cusp. Why is it of a spiritual tipping point? Because we have a war of ideologies and religion attempting to clash and rise in this nation right now. So it is going to reach a spiritual tipping point. And we, as the people of God, you know, the word of God says when the enemy comes in like a flood, the spirit of the Lord will raise a standard against him.
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Speaker 5: A standard. We're supposed to be the standard. We are that standard. We are meant to rise in that time.
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Speaker 6: We are meant to be the unadulterated voice of truth and speak the word of God when we see these things rising in our nation.
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Speaker 1: Tell me about Ark of Grace Ministries. A little bit.
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Speaker 6: Well, Ark of Grace is interesting because I call myself sort of a female prophetic version of Noah. And the reason I say that is because we not only have the ministry, which which we have publicly and we biblically teach and we show prophetic parallels, you know, and we show what's happening today. But we also have an animal sanctuary. Attached to it that houses over 60 animals.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 6: And so basically the Lord sends these animals in their very broken, wounded orphan state, kind of like we are when he finds us and we.
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Speaker 5: Come to him.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, same thing.
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Speaker 6: And they come under our covering and we end up just basically not only loving them and taking care of them, but then they become a tool. in the hands of god and i've had so many people write us and said i would have never stopped and listened to you but i saw all the animals that you have and it compelled me to listen so these animals are actually a really brilliant tool in the hands of the lord to bring people to know him and to understand him and in a closer relationship with him so we do both basically So you're.
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Speaker 1: On YouTube all of the time.
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Speaker 2: I have not checked it out yet, but I plan on after we get off the phone.
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Speaker 1: I i bet you sound like you're pretty entertaining.
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Speaker 2: And uh you have hundreds of thousands of viewers every month and uh have have been on is your message out there strictly i mean are you trying to scare people about what's to come Are you just looking for clicks and likes?
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Speaker 1: I mean, what's.
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Speaker 2: Your calling? How do you feel like you were called to do what you're doing now, Amanda?
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Speaker 6: In a way, I believe I was called to sound an alarm and sober people up to the heightened level of sophisticated spiritual warfare that we've entered in this nation, really to educate people. and equip people and bring them into a deeper relationship with almighty God through Christ Jesus and equip them for the time they are in because you can't fight an enemy.
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Speaker 5: You don't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So, so the Lord has me basically educating people on what prophetically is happening and, and the parallels and, and, you know, opening.
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Speaker 5: People's eyes to the parallels between.
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Speaker 6: What's happening now and scripture in order to equip them and educate them in order to deal with with a very sophisticated level of spiritual warfare.
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Speaker 5: That we have entered.
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Speaker 6: And if we're not equipped with the right weapons, you know, we are not equipped for the battle. And if we're soldiers in the army of the living God, well, God does not ill equip us.
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Speaker 5: That's not the kind of God he is.
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Speaker 6: He equips us for what we have been called.
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Speaker 5: You know, he doesn't call the equipped. He equips the called. Well, this and we've been called in this time.
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Speaker 6: In this season, into what's happening in this nation, to stand as a voice of truth, to stand as a voice of God's word and the truth of his word, and to speak that in this time. And so we're trying to wake people up to that fact because we want to see people operating in their full call the way God has called them to in this time.
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Speaker 1: Very good, very good.
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Speaker 2: So the first book, again, Brace of Impact, Five Rare Prophetic Events That Will Trigger a Spiritual Tipping Point, and the upcoming book, Prophecy 911, The Purim Pattern and the Warning to America.
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Speaker 1: The author is Amanda Grace.
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Speaker 2: Any kind of contact that people can find you, Amanda, if they're looking?
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Speaker 3: Yes. Sure.
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Speaker 6: They could go to Ark with a K, arkofgrace.org. That's our main website. And we are on all the social media platforms. So we're Ark of Grace Ministries on YouTube and on Rumble. And we're Ark of Grace Ministry with a Y on Facebook. And we have our own app that you can download in the App Store as well for free.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time today.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Good luck with the upcoming book.
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Speaker 2: I know it's going to hopefully help a lot of people understand what's happening.
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Speaker 7: I pray so.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: Amanda Grace with us. And there's more nightcap ahead if you just stick around. He is a pastor, and he is an author, and he is kind of an adventurer in a way, leading people on these great expeditions and journeys. And his new book, which is just out today, today is launch day for joellemomsbook.com. the circle perspective, how your journey has prepared you for your higher destiny. Everything that happens in your life that can lead you to God, your ultimate destiny is, is part of that, that trip. And sometimes, boy, I tell you what, sometimes you really have no idea how this is.
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Speaker 1: Going to lead you to that.
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Speaker 2: Uh, as far as getting you closer to God and, uh, you know, being where God wants you to be. But the, the journey is sometimes is in fact, Joel says all the times circuitous, uh, to say the least Joel mom, welcome back to the show.
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Speaker 1: How are you?
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Speaker 3: Thanks.
00:33:54
Speaker 1: Good to be with you again. I'm doing good.
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Speaker 2: Great to have you. Um, so the circle perspective is out now. And the last time we talked and it was one of the more interesting things about the conversation and it's a claim, uh, that kind of supports of the book and the whole thought behind it is that in Hebrew, in Psalms 23, when he says, he leadeth me to greener path, it's the path that you're being led to. And in Hebrew, that is directly translated to circles, not a straight line.
00:34:33
Speaker 3: Right. Yes.
00:34:35
Speaker 8: So the word path is muggle and it means paths made of circles.
00:34:39
Speaker 1: Paths made of circles. How about that?
00:34:42
Speaker 2: Uh, so, so when you think that, uh, you're, you're going up a hill or something and you're in a, you're, you start in a straight line, you know, where you want to get to, to the top, but because of obstacles, because of the grade, The shepherd in Psalms 23 is actually having to lead around that hill to kind of ease the grade to the ultimate destination, right?
00:35:16
Speaker 8: Yes, that's a great way to look at it, yeah. He knows where the good stuff is, and he's constantly pushing you to higher and more to achieve the purpose he's placed in you. But it's interesting, there's a verse in Romans that says the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable or without repentance, another version says. So the idea is there's this core that he placed in every human being. He placed gifts, he placed abilities, he placed motivations within you, and those don't go away. He just wants you to become the fullness of that. And so he leads you in this kind of ever-widening spiral where You come back to timeframes, you know, maybe for you, it's for a while it was for us every four years, there was a major life change, right? Or you come back to places and you go, I never thought I'd be here again, but it looks different. You know, I ended up back in a small town I grew up in recently and I was like, never wanted to come.
00:36:07
Speaker 1: Back here, but it had a purpose, right?
00:36:09
Speaker 8: So there's this circular pattern to his work and you just keep coming back and you start to realize, wait, that thing that I experienced back there that I never want to have to experience again. it prepared me for what's ahead now. And I think that's the message right there is that God is working all things together for the good of those who love him.
00:36:26
Speaker 1: And we live in this.
00:36:27
Speaker 8: Crazy world where there's all sorts of horrible stuff that happens, but he is the one who can turn even the worst of things into something that gives us a mission and a message.
00:36:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:36:37
Speaker 2: Similarly, it may not be a physical, a geographical location, but you may be led back into something that you stumbled through before or stumbled from before and uh and and god's you know it's it's just a chance to as you mentioned give it the circle perspective okay i've been here before and i i don't want to have happened what happened last time how do i reach out to god for, you know, guidance through that, and how do I approach it this time as opposed to last time when maybe it wasn't your best day, right?
00:37:22
Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah. That's another way to look at it.
00:37:24
Speaker 8: It's like, well, God's going to give you a chance to get it right this time. What's that verse in Proverbs? One of my favorite verses. My wife thinks it's insane that I like it. It says, if you faint in the day of adversity, your strength is small. She goes, that's not encouraging. And I go, actually, it's really encouraging because if you're still standing when life gets hard, you're stronger than you think you are. And the other is if you have a moment where you fainted and you look back and go, oh, I could have handled that better. You're going to get a chance to do it again.
00:37:52
Speaker 9: You get to get it.
00:37:53
Speaker 8: You get a chance to get it right. He's given you that gift.
00:37:56
Speaker 1: A do over.
00:37:57
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:37:58
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what?
00:38:00
Speaker 2: A prime example of that in my life, Joelle, is the fact that I'm married to a wonderful woman who I love. Um, And I call her Krista 2.0. I call her Krista 2.0 because we were married once before in 1997.
00:38:18
Speaker 1: And then things did not work out that time. And we got separated and divorced. And same persons, same two people.
00:38:26
Speaker 2: 12 years later, without any foreknowledge of her being even in the same town, And not having any contact with her at all in those 12 years between the divorce being final and us seeing each other again. And she walked in where I was working and eyes met, jaws dropped, and it was love at second sight. And we've been going strong now for a little over 12 years. And very happy.
00:38:58
Speaker 7: Wow, what a story.
00:39:00
Speaker 2: So, you know, God brought us back into each other's lives. And we got that do over. So to me, that's a prime example of what we're talking about.
00:39:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:12
Speaker 8: And I mean, and I can guarantee you there's some stuff you learned in that first round that you're going, we're not going to do that again.
00:39:17
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. No question. You take people through Summit Leaders, which is an organization you founded. You take people on these, these journeys. Um, so if you will talk a little bit about that and, and what, what you accomplished in these expeditions.
00:39:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:39:41
Speaker 8: So I went and got a master's degree in counseling and then I discovered I don't actually like counseling. So, um, I did a bunch of clinical and I was like, I can't stand this. I like being in the outdoors. I like what happens with people. My friend Mark Batterson, he actually wrote the foreword for the book. He has this formula. He says change of pace plus change of place equals a change of perspective. Sometimes you just got to get out of your regular routine, get to a new location. And all of a sudden you start to see your life from a different perspective. And usually it's something that was already right in front of you. And what I found is these outdoor adventures, that's where my sweet spot is in helping people get a new perspective on their life.
00:40:19
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for people who can do clinical. I'm not one of them.
00:40:22
Speaker 8: I'm a guy that's got to be out marching through the woods. So I found I take people out on outdoor adventures and we do some leadership training along the way. So rather than sitting in a seminar, you're actually out hiking to Machu Picchu or climbing Mount Kilimanjaro or rafting the Grand Canyon. And I've brought some really top, top level speakers with us. Um, and we go do these things and we have a little in the evenings, um, at the campfire or in the tent, we have a little devotional and, and you're, you're learning as you're hiking. We have another one actually in the footsteps of Jesus in Israel. So that's, that's kind of how I've learned. I'm like, I realized, oh, I think every one of us has to kind of find our unique niche. Like there's a thing we're trained to do. And then there's a thing we are gifted to do. And I, for me, counseling is a thing, but I find it works best for me in the outdoors. So That's kind of where I landed with summitleaders.com. We've taken thousands of people around the world on outdoor adventures.
00:41:15
Speaker 2: Looking at one of your missions, you probably, I don't, you might, you might not, but I don't think that I would be, after your experience there, recommending people go to Acapulco.
00:41:29
Speaker 1: Tell me about how, you know, you hear.
00:41:32
Speaker 2: Acapulco and you think about sunshine and beaches and this wonderful tourist haven.
00:41:39
Speaker 1: Not so much for your experience, right?
00:41:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:41:42
Speaker 8: So the whole book, the circle perspective is me telling the story of like one of the most miserable missions experience of my life. We, you know, I love Mexico, but the part of Mexico we were assigned to for our mission was it was a infested with drug dealers and. The, um, narco terrorists owned the whole area. Everyone lived in fear. Gangs ran the place and we lived right in the middle of that. And so we went through an experience dealing with constantly being hassled by corrupt cops, our home being broken into getting our lives threatened.
00:42:14
Speaker 1: Um, that's the whole experience in the book.
00:42:17
Speaker 8: And I look back now at the time I thought, what a failure of a season of my young life. But I look back now and I see what it was preparing me for in the future. But, uh, yeah, that was, that was our experience in Acapulco that I just go, Um, I used to look back at that and go, what a waste of a good season of my life when I was young. But now I realized, oh, it was all part of the training and I don't want to do it again.
00:42:39
Speaker 1: Believe me, don't want to do it again. There was a church member.
00:42:43
Speaker 2: There was a church member who actually offered you a gun and you said, no, your house was broken into and all kinds of other.
00:42:51
Speaker 7: Yeah.
00:42:51
Speaker 1: So we had ticked off the head of the gang.
00:42:53
Speaker 8: I have a capacity for ticking people off. Apparently, um, we had ticked off the head of the gang. And he was threatening our life around the neighborhood. So one of my church members showed up with a gun and guns are very illegal in Mexico. Here it's like, oh, a gun, whatever. In Mexico, they find a gun on you, you're going to prison for life. So I asked him, I said, how'd you get this gun? And he's like, oh, pastor, you don't want to know.
00:43:19
Speaker 1: But we found out that I turned down the gun. But later that night.
00:43:21
Speaker 8: We found out that he had actually patrolled our property that evening to protect us. So the Lord protected us through a church member with an illegal gun. But anyway.
00:43:29
Speaker 1: That's okay. That's okay. And in Peru, you actually opened up a cafe.
00:43:37
Speaker 7: Yes.
00:43:37
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:43:38
Speaker 8: Right after we left, you know, we left Mexico and I tell him the story how That abruptly ended, and it was the weirdest experience ever. I was like, I feel like this ministry needs to close, and we closed it, which closing things isn't usually something people put on their resume.
00:43:51
Speaker 1: But we closed it.
00:43:53
Speaker 8: We were missionaries without a mission, and next thing we knew, we found ourselves in Peru starting a cafe up in the Andes Mountains in Cusco, Peru. So it was quite a wonderful experience because nobody was threatening my life or trying to kill me.
00:44:06
Speaker 1: So I felt really happy.
00:44:09
Speaker 2: There are tons of books, and the point is made here in the pitch, Joel, talking to Joel Malm, of the Circle Perspective, the book's out now today, and Summit Leaders, the organization he founded that has led him to all kinds of really cool places. There are tons of books out there and all kinds of conferences and webinars that, I mean, and they use the Bible, but they use it as a, as to sell a formula for success. And you write, on the other hand, here's the quote, there is no formula for life. There is only revelation. You want to go deeper into that, Joel?
00:44:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
00:44:54
Speaker 8: Well, we're always, you know, I spent most of my 20s looking for the thing that was going to lead to success. And if you just do this, you do that, you do this. But what I've found over and over again, that's why Jesus, when he left the earth, he said, actually, it's really good that I'm leaving. I'm going to leave you a guide. His name is the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit is literally going to guide you in truth as you're ready for it. Jesus even said, he's like, I want to tell you a lot more stuff, but you basically, he had his Jack Nicholson moment.
00:45:19
Speaker 1: You can't handle the truth.
00:45:20
Speaker 8: So I'm going to send the Holy Spirit and he's going to guide each of us. And so we come to a point in our life where you realize you're unique, right? You've got a unique calling and gifting. There's some principles that we need to understand. There's some clear things in the Bible you don't do. Ten Commandments example. But for much of life, the thing you need is a God. And that's where there's no formula because what's going to work for you is going to be different for me. But there is guidance from the Holy Spirit. And that's why we have to learn to have our own relationship with God and listen to his unique guidance for our life.
00:45:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have often said, and I tell people this, I'm not a pastor. I'm just, you know, but this is my philosophy. And my understanding, Joelle, is that we are all created specifically for some purpose and We are all individuals. We're like snowflakes. That's why I hate the term snowflakes to describe somebody who's soft or whatever. But I said, in essence, all human beings are snowflakes because we're all individually wrapped, if you want to frame it that way, by God. And we all have unique paths and unique.
00:46:32
Speaker 1: Skills that he has given us, gifts.
00:46:35
Speaker 2: And it's not one size fits all, as you were just saying.
00:46:40
Speaker 1: And I've said that for years.
00:46:44
Speaker 8: And that's part of kind of what the circle perspective is about. The ultimate in every circle or every season, you could fill in the word season for circles.
00:46:51
Speaker 1: There's about nine stages.
00:46:52
Speaker 8: And at the end of each stage, I think we begin to get a better understanding of our unique mission and the unique message. I believe we all have a message to share and a problem to solve. And your life has prepared you with that. And in each season, you get a little bit more understanding of what that is. And that's what the book's really about is like, what's your future? Your future is bright because you have been prepared for everything that's ahead.
00:47:17
Speaker 1: That's the message of the book. Yeah.
00:47:19
Speaker 2: And it kind of reminds me of a teaching from our church just a week or so ago in Revelation. And, you know, it's Revelation 11. where they're talking about the throne room and the elders and all of the glory that's ahead. And he says, I must show you all of this, and then I will have to show you what must take place after this. So it prepares you for glory, understanding that the rest of the story and the rest of the book is pretty, let's say, it could be frightening. It could be just terrifying for people. And Revelation is just preparing you for the tough stuff that's ahead, but it's just the first part of Revelation is training you to not be afraid of what's coming, what has to happen. So it's kind of the same thing, I think. Yeah, I mean, Paul said that too.
00:48:27
Speaker 8: When he's sitting in prison, he says, I want you to know, brothers, that what's happened to me has really served to advance the mission of the gospel. And you go, he wrote that in a prison.
00:48:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
00:48:36
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:48:37
Speaker 8: But he had the bigger perspective going, yeah, but there's all sorts of stuff going on, even in the middle of my situation that's accomplishing God's purposes. So that gives you really It gives a deep sense of meaning in this life that sometimes you go, what's the point of all this? You recognize there is a bigger, there's a bigger story. There's a, you know, postmodernism has said there's no metanarrative, there's no bigger story. And so people have begun to feel meaningless. And I say, until you recognize that you're part of a bigger story, his story, his story. You're going to not find meaning, but when you recognize there's something big going on and you have a unique part to play, you're his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works, which the Father himself prepared beforehand that you should walk in them. You got a purpose here. You're not here by accident. And everything that's happening to you is preparation.
00:49:23
Speaker 2: The book is The Circle Perspective, how your journey has prepared you for your higher destiny. The author is Joel Malm and another fantastic conversation. Thank you so much, Pastor Malm.
00:49:33
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right. You got it.
00:49:35
Speaker 2: And great success with the book. We'll continue the nightcap in just a few. Dan was the good gun, bad guy. Guy will be on in just minutes after news.
00:49:48
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00:50:03
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00:50:07
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00:50:07
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00:50:08
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00:50:11
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00:50:15
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00:50:19
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00:50:23
Speaker 1: You've had physical therapy. You've done the medication steroids. And now they're talking.
00:50:29
Speaker 2: Proud to welcome back a frequent guest and a longtime Nightcap participant, the good gun, bad guy guy, as I like to say. It just sounds funny. But he is the good gun, bad guy guy. His name is Danny Walsh. He is a Second Amendment advocate, extraordinaire, nationally recognized commentator. And he's here to commentate a little bit with us tonight on the latest gun control strategies that are being used to strip you of your Second Amendment rights. Dan Woz, welcome back to the show. It's great to have you.
00:51:10
Speaker 9: Hey, Gary, Jeff, it's great to be on your show as always.
00:51:13
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I don't know if I can live up to that extraordinaire title, but I'll try my best.
00:51:23
Speaker 2: I have a rather large vocabulary, and I don't always use the words correctly.
00:51:27
Speaker 1: I don't know.
00:51:29
Speaker 2: But I think you are a Second Amendment advocate extraordinaire.
00:51:33
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. The latest.
00:51:39
Speaker 2: Attempt at grabbing our guns is being framed as whether we need it or not.
00:51:48
Speaker 1: Can you elaborate on this?
00:51:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't you love when they say, you know, when you're in the Second Amendment sort of world, as I am, a lot of times we'll get comments from the anti-gun folks who really don't know a heck of a lot about guns, and they don't know, they really don't have any appreciation for the Second Amendment.
00:52:09
Speaker 9: They'll say things like, well, why do you need an AR-15? Why do you need.
00:52:14
Speaker 1: I've heard that all the time, yeah.
00:52:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it's like.
00:52:19
Speaker 4: And the interesting thing about it when you really dig down into their psychology is that they truly believe that if you can't articulate a valid need, and I mean valid in their eyes, then they believe that you just simply shouldn't have whatever it is they're trying to ban. They don't understand the difference between rights and needs or rights and privileges. So it's something I've been working on, and the psychology of it's just really, really interesting when you look at it from that perspective.
00:52:53
Speaker 2: Well, I really don't need that lobster tail, but, you know, I've got the money and it's there.
00:53:00
Speaker 1: I probably would like to have that.
00:53:02
Speaker 2: I don't have a God-given right to have the lobster tail, but I really wanted. But, yeah, they'd focus on something like that was like, Well, yeah, yeah. Do you really need that extra scoop of mashed potatoes? But they look at, again, the Bill of Rights as a bill of needs, and it's simply not the case. So, I mean, I don't need an F-15 fighter, but, you know, since the government has it, if I could have the wherewithal to actually buy one, I should be able to do that.
00:53:40
Speaker 1: I just.
00:53:42
Speaker 2: Just trying to come up with the runway and the hanger right now. But the point of the matter is the reason that your right to own and bear firearms is in the Constitution, in the Bill of Rights, is because not only your protection against criminal elements or foreign intruders, but your protection against an overreaching government, which is what we were facing in 1776 with the British crown. You had an overreaching government that did not appreciate or respect individual rights of, of human beings. And the founders and the writers of that constitution and those bills of rights understood that everyday people, um, You, me, whether you're in a militia or not, should always have that right protected by them, by the government. And instead, these elements of government people, elected officials, continue to try and chip away at the Constitution. And it's really gotten bad in a lot of other areas. But it's still, they never let up, do they, Dan, on guns?
00:55:04
Speaker 3: Never.
00:55:05
Speaker 4: No, and the thing is, we can justify, we can actually justify the need if we had to. We could justify it a hundred ways. But we don't have to. And the funny part about it is we tend to be put in this defensive position a lot of the time when they say that, and we find ourselves trying to justify our need.
00:55:31
Speaker 9: And, and I, I'm always telling gun owners, Hey, listen, you don't even, you.
00:55:37
Speaker 1: No, no, you don't.
00:55:39
Speaker 2: You, you, you kind of, you kind of went away into a sounded underwater there for a second, Dan, but go ahead and repeat what you just said.
00:55:47
Speaker 7: It's all right.
00:55:48
Speaker 9: Well, yeah. So we don't need to justify it. We can respond.
00:55:53
Speaker 4: With, by saying, you know, what did need to become a metric by which we measure rights? It, It simply hasn't, but in their mind, it does. And the funny thing is, you'll hear them say things like, well.
00:56:08
Speaker 9: You went out today.
00:56:13
Speaker 1: You went out today.
00:56:15
Speaker 9: Did somebody try to attack you? Did somebody try to gun you down?
00:56:21
Speaker 4: Did you need your gun today?
00:56:24
Speaker 9: And you say, well, no, I didn't. Well, then why do you carry it?
00:56:27
Speaker 4: And I mean, the same thing could, you know, we could turn that question around too. And we could ask them, well, I did carry my gun all day and my.
00:56:35
Speaker 9: Gun didn't hurt anyone today. Right. So why, why do you need to take it away?
00:56:44
Speaker 2: So what's being, what's being done on an official level? What, what politician is still, I saw, I don't know, it was one of the DSA candidates. I mean, not surprising. One of the DSA candidates that won their primary and is up for election in a very heavily Democrat area. I forget where it was, whether it was Michigan or Minnesota. But there was some issue where somebody got shot. And she goes, the problem is guns.
00:57:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
00:57:16
Speaker 1: The problem is not behavior. It's, it's guns.
00:57:20
Speaker 2: If the, if the guns weren't there, then the behavior would certainly be different.
00:57:24
Speaker 1: No, right.
00:57:26
Speaker 4: It's not the fact that I, that I told my DA or my attorney general rather to, to, to let the, let these bad guys back.
00:57:34
Speaker 9: Out onto the streets. No, that's not the problem.
00:57:37
Speaker 1: No, it's the guns. It must be the guns.
00:57:40
Speaker 9: It must be.
00:57:42
Speaker 4: But the thing is you get these governors, these, these blue state governors are bail reform and early release and they're letting them out. And they, they're, they're trying to create, at least it looks that way. They're, they're trying to create a, a victim predator society. And, you know, and then they try to blame the guns. I suppose, you know, if, if they didn't have the violence, they would have no reason to try to ban guns. So they need to perpetuate that violence and keep it going because anytime a criminal gang member or anybody goes, uses a gun to hurt somebody that's more fuel for them to push for new legislation and the legislation always depends on us the good guys you know ironically we're the we're the we're their biggest opposition their political opposition we're the ones that the democrats don't want to have.
00:58:35
Speaker 2: Guns certainly not because of if if they overstep their grounds uh they know that They're going to have to face you guys. And if they took your guns away, they would just roll all over us, Dan. The same politicians, those same people, the same political parties that are always suspect number one when it comes to gun grabbing in America. You have dealt in the state of New York with Kathy Hochul for a long, long time. time, who has tried in every way to skirt and to pervert the Second Amendment in the state of New York. What is her opponent's stand on gun rights?
00:59:28
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully Kathy Hochul's reign of terror is coming to an end. We can only hope now. I, uh, uh, unfortunately, at least Stefanik who would have been running against her, she pulled out for some reason. I, I know at least a little bit, we talked a few times and she was great.
00:59:45
Speaker 9: Now we have Bruce Blakeman.
00:59:48
Speaker 3: He seems to.
00:59:48
Speaker 9: Be doing, he seems to be doing really well.
00:59:51
Speaker 4: And we've, I've been in contact with his campaign manager and.
00:59:56
Speaker 9: You know, they're, when it comes to gun rights, he's, they're saying all the right things.
01:00:01
Speaker 4: Um, they're, they're looking pretty good as far as, uh, you know, protecting and, and preserving our second amendment rights in New York. There's a lot of stuff that he'd have to turn around.
01:00:11
Speaker 9: Uh, like the New York safe act and in.
01:00:14
Speaker 4: These sensitive locations, there's a whole ton and the, and the licensing requirements and, uh, training courses and all the mandatory and the background checks that go to the state police, uh, uh, for registration.
01:00:26
Speaker 9: And there's so much stuff here in New York that he's, he's going to have.
01:00:29
Speaker 4: To unwind and his, they know that me and some others are, are waiting for him to win this election. And, um, we're happy to help him happy to advise him. And, uh, hopefully we can get some of that stuff unwound.
01:00:43
Speaker 1: Do you think he is, his chances are good to beat Hochul?
01:00:47
Speaker 9: It's starting to look good.
01:00:48
Speaker 4: It's starting to almost look like they're neck and neck. It just depends on how much cheating the Democrats can get away with in New York.
01:00:55
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, when you don't have to show an ID to vote, you know, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
01:01:02
Speaker 4: Hopefully, hopefully we're putting some, some, you know, uh, some safeguards in place. Um, I'm not too privy on that stuff, but, uh, you know, our fingers are crossed.
01:01:14
Speaker 2: All right. Well, um, The other question, and I mentioned DSA candidates specifically. I mean, the difference between socialism and communism is socialism puts government in charge of everything and communists make sure they grab the guns. And these people are not a far leap away from being full on hammer and sickle. And they would love to be in power And they would love to subvert and pervert. They want to tear up the Constitution anyway. They think it's unnecessary. But certainly one of the tenets of them tearing up the Constitution, the Second Amendment would have a huge target on it if they got control of the Supreme Court or anything else.
01:02:11
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think.
01:02:13
Speaker 4: Well, we have to wrap our heads around, our minds around, and it's hard to do, but we have to wrap our minds around the fact that they really just don't like America. And they live in it, and they enjoy the benefits of being an American, but they really don't like it, and they don't.
01:02:27
Speaker 9: Appreciate our founding. They don't appreciate our principles.
01:02:31
Speaker 4: They don't appreciate just all the great things, all the freedoms that America brings.
01:02:37
Speaker 9: So understanding that much helps us see– where they're really going.
01:02:42
Speaker 1: And you're right.
01:02:42
Speaker 9: From socialism to communism, that's like, it won't take long.
01:02:47
Speaker 3: No.
01:02:48
Speaker 4: Actually, that's what they're waiting for.
01:02:51
Speaker 9: Socialism is just getting them in the door.
01:02:54
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, technically, we've been a socialist country for a long time because of all of these government programs, whether it be Social Security, health care, Medicare, whatever, food stamps, pick one. Those are all socialistic programs that I don't think could be taken away at this point. They probably could be better managed. There's no question about that. But the difference, I've been told, between socialism and communism is about five years.
01:03:29
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wouldn't even think that long.
01:03:32
Speaker 2: We're knocking on the door right now of this, depending on what happens in these midterm elections and the next presidential election. It's scary times. I mean, to be living in the country and, you know, all the more reason that, you know, I might need a gun. I might need a gun.
01:03:50
Speaker 9: You think? I might need a gun. Might be a good idea.
01:03:55
Speaker 2: Anything else on your radar you wanted to just pop in with here?
01:04:01
Speaker 4: As we just said, I just that idea of, of socialism is it's, it's really scary.
01:04:08
Speaker 9: I think the good news.
01:04:10
Speaker 4: Is a lot of people are starting to recognize what they're trying to do.
01:04:14
Speaker 9: And, you know, I'm, I'm.
01:04:16
Speaker 4: Hearing some of these reports on the polls and some of the early voting and it's not looking bad for us. It's actually looking pretty good. So, I mean, keep our hopes up and definitely get out to vote. But you know, it was, if it wasn't for president Trump, this is the amazing thing about this guy. He is changing so much and he's making people so aware of what the Democrats have been up to for decades.
01:04:40
Speaker 9: And, uh, he's, he's stopping them as best he can.
01:04:44
Speaker 2: What he's done, Dan, is he's pulled back the curtain on him to, to reveal who they really are. And before they could hide, they were like, uh, wolves in sheep's clothing, but now they're, they're blatant to, to come out and say it because as you mentioned, president Trump has pointed it out. Um, they, they don't have a way to hide their, uh, their evil intent anymore because again, we know that they don't like America. They hate our founding. They hate our, our values. Uh, and they would love to replace it with something that would be awful. And it's been awful. Every place it's been tried around the world. But when people are looking for Danny was where, where can they find him again? I know you're do YouTube and you do all kinds of things.
01:05:34
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:05:34
Speaker 9: You can go to good gun, bad guy.com.
01:05:37
Speaker 4: Good gun, bad guy.com.
01:05:40
Speaker 9: Uh, that's my website. You can find me on.
01:05:42
Speaker 4: All the socials and I have a show called the loaded mic. Uh, and that, uh, airs every night on every night, every night.
01:05:49
Speaker 9: Every weeknight live on the social. So Dan was D A N W O S.com. And good gun, bad guy.
01:05:58
Speaker 1: All right. And by the way, for folks, loaded mic, the mic is spelled M-I-C, right?
01:06:04
Speaker 3: Yes.
01:06:05
Speaker 1: If you type in M-I-K-E, I don't even want to tell you.
01:06:10
Speaker 7: All right, Dan. You'll see some drunk guy falling off a parking lot.
01:06:17
Speaker 1: Oh, God, if that were the case, it wouldn't be that bad. All right. Dan was good gun. Bad guy.
01:06:23
Speaker 2: Dot com. Check him out. Thank you, sir. The wild man right around the corner. Tori, as we round third and head for home on this Tuesday night cap. And I can't think of a finer way to finish with the flourish than by introducing our friend, the sports commando. The wild man is back. And I'm sure he has more than just a few thoughts. The Bengals came Sunday in Miami. And by the way, Wildman, I want to note, in case you didn't notice, the Bengals played in Miami on Sunday, and Stanley Wilson still didn't show up.
01:07:02
Speaker 7: He still didn't show up.
01:07:03
Speaker 2: 45 years later, they're still looking for Stanley Wilson, chasing hookers and cocaine on Biscayne Boulevard.
01:07:14
Speaker 7: Well, I don't want to make you feel bad, but I think Stanley Wilson is no longer with us. So that's why.
01:07:18
Speaker 1: Well, maybe that's why he didn't show up.
01:07:21
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:23
Speaker 1: What a waste of talent.
01:07:24
Speaker 7: What a waste of a great talent.
01:07:26
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. That's the biggest game of your life.
01:07:30
Speaker 2: You think about this and I'm sure you've thought about it and talked about it ever since that.
01:07:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. Superbowl.
01:07:37
Speaker 2: So here, here's, here's my thing as a kid. You're playing football with your friends. You're throwing the football around. Maybe you have a little game of two-hand touch or whatever.
01:07:49
Speaker 1: Notepads.
01:07:49
Speaker 2: And you're out there and you're thinking that you're in the Super Bowl. And it's everything you could imagine. Being in the biggest game of all time. And you're right there in the middle of it. And you think about that all through your childhood. All through playing high school football and into college. And then your chance comes. And you decide to do what Stanley Wilson did instead of showing up. That's just, that's always blown my mind, really.
01:08:21
Speaker 7: And the Bengals back then really didn't have people, you know, watching the players and that kind of stuff.
01:08:26
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter.
01:08:28
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who's watching. It's just, this is your chance.
01:08:32
Speaker 7: He kind of threw it all away. Not only that, you know, Gary, I mean, I was down there front and center, so I saw it all. There were so many things. I hate to rehash this because it pains me, but there were so many things that went wrong leading up to the game that the Bengals still almost won that game. That's why I don't know why the football gods didn't let us win. I mean, you had Stanley Wilson going cuckoo. He had Tim Grumry breaking his leg. You had the field, the field. Somebody left the water on overnight, which made the Bengals running game impossible to go up the middle. They had to go left or right. So the field was a muddy mess. And Boomer Esiason, they kept it quiet, but he had a bad shoulder. And through all that, David Grant played his ass off in place and play some crumb rye. And then you had the drop pass by Lewis Billups. Man, you could have caught that ball. He catches the ball, the game's over. I mean, it's just like, oh, my God, what more could go wrong? I mean, just everything. It's just that's the most painful Super Bowl loss. It really is. You don't even compare to the one up in Pontiac or the one out in L.A. That one there, we should have won. We really should have. And Jim Breach would have been MVP, and he would never have had to buy a meal again in this town. or any of the, or any of the guys, you know, sure.
01:09:53
Speaker 2: You're not, when you're playing in the super bowl, you don't think about if your meals are going to be paid from, from now on. And that's, it goes back to the Stanley Wilson thing. You're playing in the super bowl and you can't show up.
01:10:06
Speaker 1: I mean, geez. All right. So, so, so Sunday.
01:10:10
Speaker 7: Cocaine, cocaine, cocaine gets ahold of you, man. That's how you can do about it. You know, it's hard to break it.
01:10:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:10:17
Speaker 1: I'm glad it's not a part of my life.
01:10:20
Speaker 7: Damn right, never been part of mine. I don't think I'm crazy enough.
01:10:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are.
01:10:25
Speaker 2: Okay, let's shift gears to this past Sunday. Now you've had some extra time to digest what went down and what didn't go down. The Bengals didn't go down to their third loss, but they were playing arguably the worst team in the NFL, no question.
01:10:46
Speaker 7: The Bengals win, and people are going to say, well, it's a win. Yeah, it's a win, but it was a garbage win. There's a thing in basketball called garbage time, where guys just go up and down the court the last four minutes and score in baskets, and nobody... Nobody cares. And at the end, the score is close, but the game was out of hand. That was a garbage win in every sense of the word. I mean, it gets a lousy team and a quarterback who probably shouldn't even be playing in the National Football League. On the positive side of the Bengals running game with P. Ryan and Chase Brown did a fine job. I don't know what's going on with Chase Brown. He just can't find any holes.
01:11:24
Speaker 1: But P.
01:11:25
Speaker 7: Ryan runs hard. I don't think he's an everyday running back. I got I see people say, oh, he should be the number one running back, whatever, but whatever it is, P Ryan runs hard and it gives him another option. The best thing that came out of that, that, that, that win was Jamar chase and T Higgins playing. Now, why, why? Because they showed that they showed to the other players how much they love playing football and how much they want to win. I mean, they didn't have to play in that game. They could have set out and they probably still would have won that game. But then you had in that game, So many dumb penalties. Oh, my God. Lousy tackling. And he still can't stop the run. And here we come. Two weeks from today, Derrick Henry. That guy is a semi. And they better find out a way to stop him because they're going to run Derrick Henry and Mark Andrews, the tight end. You know, they can't stop tight ends. And they can't stop their running backs. And that's where it starts and goes. I don't know if Lamar Jackson will play. But the good thing about this is we've got two weeks to prepare. I hate saying we. The Bengals have two weeks to prepare. They know the Ravens. The Ravens know us. No secrets there. But Derrick Henry, I mean, that's one tall, tall order. And also, you look down the road, you got B. John Robinson, you know, the Atlanta Falcons looming. So they got a couple guys that they got to learn how to stop the run and learn how to tackle it better. They must start tackling it better.
01:12:52
Speaker 2: They have had incredible problems stopping tight ends thus far, the defense has, and the run. But it just seems like the Bengals don't have the physical size. Once they get into the defensive secondary, defensive backfield, they seem not to have the size to tackle people. Uh, you know, like, uh, the, the tight end you mentioned for, for Baltimore, uh, Andrews always, Andrews always kills them.
01:13:23
Speaker 3: Always.
01:13:24
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:13:25
Speaker 7: A lot of that Gary Jeff is taking the right angles on the guy and trying and wrapping them up.
01:13:29
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:13:29
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, wrap, wrap it up. Don't try to tackle him up high. Don't try to knock him out of bounds, wrapping them up. And you saw early on in the season, they were doing that. Now they're gotten away from that. You got to wrap these guys up. I don't care how big they are. You tackle them down low and pull them down and get some help over there. But you see so many guys trying to arm tackle guys and trying to knock them out of bounds. That doesn't work. And if they don't get it together, they're in deep doo-doo. The running game was okay, but Joe Burrow had a decent day back there. The Bengals just lost Hudson, the tight end, for the rest of the year. It's a pectoral injury. So he's out. So now they've got to find somebody else that can play tight end. But you've got to stop the stupid penalties. You've got to stop foaming on the ball. You've got to stop the mental mistakes. The mental mistakes are killing them. Like I said, they've got two weeks to clean it up. This isn't the end of the season. I mean, my God, they're 3-2. I'd rather be 3-2 than 2-3.
01:14:25
Speaker 3: Sure.
01:14:29
Speaker 2: Well, I think, too, that they're going to have to– you're talking about the lack of being able to tackle the tight ends and the running back once they break the line of scrimmage and get in the defensive backfield. And the thing that kills me more than arm tackling or not wrapping them up The Superman leap. Somebody comes flying from the side thinking that they're going to be a projectile that's going to knock this player down. And this player's three times your size. You're just going to bounce off like a bullet off Superman's chest.
01:15:07
Speaker 7: That's what's going to happen with Derrick Henry or Andrews. If they don't stop those guys, the defense has got to play much better at this game. probably against anything they've played so far.
01:15:21
Speaker 1: This could be a blowout.
01:15:22
Speaker 7: This could be one ugly, ugly loss. But they've got two weeks to repair. They know the Ravens. They know Derek Henry. It's not no secret. Let's get it on here.
01:15:34
Speaker 2: You mentioned how pathetic Malik Willis was, the quarterback for the Dolphins, and he was sad. It was like watching an eighth grader trying to play against NFL players.
01:15:46
Speaker 1: Excuse me.
01:15:47
Speaker 2: But What I wonder is how in the world did they score 24 points?
01:15:54
Speaker 9: How?
01:15:55
Speaker 1: How does that happen? How did that.
01:15:57
Speaker 2: Team score at all with a quarterback that insufficient and unable?
01:16:04
Speaker 7: The defensive secondary kind of let down, let guys get open, not making the tackles. When they did run the ball towards the end, they weren't making the tackles. It really started with the linebackers on the way back. I mean, the front four, the front five had been putting pressure on him all day. They were getting burned on the running game. And the running game breaking tackles. That starts with our linebackers taking the right angles and wrapping them up. And you see some guys, some of the guys, they get, they get burned up every, every play they get burned or every other play, they get burned by the same play. It's like, my God, you know, there's how golden to see this. Can they make an adjustment? And then, and then you had, you know, the Bengals, when they, when they were driving the ball, they made some stupid penalty. This means of dumb penalties at tight end alt, you know, hitting a guy with his helmet. I mean, that guy should never went back on the field.
01:17:00
Speaker 1: It was just so stupid.
01:17:02
Speaker 7: It was a sloppy garbage win. I mean, I wouldn't even have shown that. I don't know why I wouldn't even have shown that to the players. I don't know if they even should look at it. Maybe the defense should. All the time I went there showing it. But the defense should have looked at it. It was garbage. It was a hard game to watch.
01:17:20
Speaker 3: You know what?
01:17:20
Speaker 2: And the interception burrow through. Boy, who did he think he was throwing to? I mean, it was right to the Dolphin player.
01:17:32
Speaker 7: Yeah.
01:17:33
Speaker 1: And Joe doesn't get fooled like that.
01:17:37
Speaker 2: But something happened on that player, miscommunication with the receiver or something, because that's something you rarely, if ever, see out of Joe Burrow, out of number nine. So looking ahead to the bye week, do you foresee any big changes?
01:17:55
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:17:56
Speaker 2: Is it still possible that sometime this season, common sanity will break out somewhere in the Bengals' front office and Zach Taylor will hand the play-calling duties off to somebody else?
01:18:11
Speaker 1: Because that has to happen.
01:18:13
Speaker 7: You know, I know, but 90% of Bengals' nation would love to see Zach Taylor give up the play-calling duties, either to Joe Burrow or the offensive coordinator.
01:18:24
Speaker 2: I think it ought to be Burrow. I think it ought to be Burrow. I think it ought to be because that guy is a field general. He sees everything except that player from the Dolphins when he threw right into his arms. But generally, Joe, generally number nine sees the field. He knows the offense. He knows the players around him better than anybody else. Let Joe Burrow call the plays.
01:18:47
Speaker 7: I've made the argument. I've made the argument. with you a number of times. If Peyton Manning can call his own plays and a few other guys, why can't Joe Burrow? Why are the Bengals going to be so hard-headed? What's with Zach Taylor's ego? Coach the game. Coach the game. It's bad enough he's so bad at clock management. Just coach the game.
01:19:08
Speaker 1: All right. Is there anything else we can cover here in the few.
01:19:12
Speaker 7: Minutes we've got? Oh, I got a slight case of the goo.
01:19:17
Speaker 1: All right, go.
01:19:18
Speaker 7: A slight case of the goo. This would be, I don't know. I saw it on Facebook a couple days ago. The Beach Boys out there still performing. And they're trotting out Mike Love, one of the main guys. He cannot even sing. He can hardly stand. They got him sitting in a chair. And it just looks so sad. And they say that he wants to do it. But you know what? There comes to a point where you don't need to see that. Some people are going to say, well, Ozzy did it. Well, that's Ozzy. That's different. Mike Love and the Beach Boys are Or, you know, rock and roll icons. To see Mike Love come out there, he could barely walk, like I said. He's sitting in a chair, and he's got a microphone. He can't sing. I mean, they need to stop that. It just looks bad. I mean, it's almost like, you know, elder abuse that they bring him out there. I don't know. And the Beach Boys are one of my favorite bands of all time, man. I mean, they've got so many great songs. And to see Mike Love out there. I interviewed Mike Love years ago. In fact, I interviewed him, Gary. The first time the Beach Boys came to town. He was a great guy. Him and Carl Wilson. I got to talk to them both. But to see that on stage, I'm going, oh, man, there's no need for that.
01:20:31
Speaker 3: There's just none.
01:20:33
Speaker 7: The family ought to say, you know what, Mike? We love you. You've had your day in the sun, and you don't need to do this.
01:20:39
Speaker 2: It's kind of like Jill Biden carting Joe back out time and time again.
01:20:43
Speaker 7: Right.
01:20:43
Speaker 1: And telling him to run.
01:20:45
Speaker 9: Yeah.
01:20:47
Speaker 7: And Beach Boy fans, I know there's some that are saying, well, it's up to him. It just looks bad. It just looks bad and sad. I mean, when you see him sitting on the chair, it looks like he could, you know, he could go anytime. And that's how bad it looks.
01:21:06
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you were, if you were, if you were Mike Love, if you were Mike Love, wouldn't you want to go on stage and go out that way? Maybe that's what they're maybe, maybe they'll, they'll be one concert where he just, he just expires right there in that chair on stage.
01:21:27
Speaker 7: Maybe since he's the main guy that still holds, you know, that says what goes and what doesn't go, if you decide that's what he wants. But to me, it just looks bad and sad.
01:21:36
Speaker 3: It really is.
01:21:37
Speaker 1: Is there anything else?
01:21:38
Speaker 7: Give me a case of the goo. That's all I've got.
01:21:41
Speaker 2: That's good goo, and I appreciate you depositing it on our listeners' ears this evening.
01:21:47
Speaker 1: Wild Man Walker, as always. And I'm back home. I'm back home. Good for you.
01:21:52
Speaker 7: And I'm back home.
01:21:55
Speaker 2: All right, they finally took the straight jacket and the rubber room out of your lifestyle.
01:22:00
Speaker 7: Yeah, I said, get out of here, get.
01:22:03
Speaker 2: All right, well, we'll talk about something next week. I don't know what we'll talk about, but we'll figure it out.
01:22:09
Speaker 7: Well, we'll probably have the World Series matchups right now. So, hey, we'll be talking about the World Series.
01:22:14
Speaker 1: There you go.
01:22:14
Speaker 2: The wild man on the nightcap here on 700 WLW.
01:22:18
Speaker 1: Back to wrap up next.