Why Jiu-Jitsu Athletes Secretly Need Pilates | Shelley Hardin | Game Plan Ep. 024

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Welcome back to another episode of Game Plan the Podcast.
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I'm your host, Davis Cole, and joined as always by our host Juice.
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Yo.
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Today's guest is a Pilates instructor, a physical therapist, and a jiu-jitsu athlete.
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Please welcome to the podcast, Shelly Hardin.
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That's Cole.
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I'm at Kingsway still currently, and I'm a hobbyist, but like the caliber of training partners there is just so high.
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Yeah, I bet.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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Um, so I feel like a white belt, you know, even though I've been training for eight years.
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I'm I'm purple belt currently.
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But like awesome.
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But you know, um, yeah, so it's a it's kind of tough.
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And then, you know, of course, women training.
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Yeah, it's never easy.
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Yeah.
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It's a whole other ball game.
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Hey, you've stuck it with it for eight years.
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Yeah, I'm still gonna keep going.
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I mean, I'm not I'm not I'm not gonna quit.
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You know, there's definitely been times where I've slowed down because of certain politics and whatnot.
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What was the longest um like break you've taken from it from training?
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Um, so I've never taken I I don't think I've taken a full-on break.
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It may be like two weeks of no class, but usually it's like I'll go like once a week, you know, at least twice a week.
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But I was like, when I was training with John, um, when I was married, by the way.
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Are we on?
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Oh, we are, yeah.
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Perfect.
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Um uh perfect.
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Because yeah, when I was married, I was in a unhappy marriage, we'll say it, we'll put it that way.
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And I was really, it was like an escape for me, you know.
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So I was uh oh is this a is it when when that was not a callback to you and your relationship, that is a callback to our previous conversations about oh like blue we've talked about this a lot where you get into jujitsu and especially if you have like an unhappy relationship, it is the escape.
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It's an escape, right?
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Oh, so I'm not the only one.
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Perfect.
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No.
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So I was trading like 10 times a week, like legit, like you know, two a day, you know, competing, stuff like that at blue belt level.
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Um, so yeah, to go from that to like once a week or like once every other week was you know a big change.
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But I felt like I needed that to really get my emotional state right and my spiritual state right, you know, during my divorce.
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Like stuff aren't great in like at home, so you go on the mats to kind of equilibrate.
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Yes, right, calibrate, get some stuff out, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, my my start to jujitsu was a long time ago, but it was like a very similar thing where I was like a teenager with anger issues and getting in fights all the time, and then like the second I started training, all that behavioral stuff stopped because I was like I had an outlet, so I went from you know getting into fights to never fighting ever again, except for like combat sports stuff.
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Oh, cool.
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How would how old did you start?
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How old were you?
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I was 15, 15.
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When I started jujitsu.
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Okay.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Because my my nephew is seven, and um let's just say I don't necessarily agree with the parenting style sometimes of the father.
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And uh one day he said the father said something, and I was like, All right, Ian, you're coming with me.
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We're going to jujitsu for the first time.
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I was like, that's it.
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We're gonna go as he was six at that time.
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Six.
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And um, well, because the father was like, you know, you need to get a, you know, he's like, I'm not your father if you don't do XYZ.
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You know, you can go get a different father, you can go get a different role model.
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Wow.
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What?
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And they're out there.
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Go get away.
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He's six years old.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I get it, you know, boys need discipline, but that's not discipline.
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That's like, that's like verbal abuse right there.
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I, I, I personally think.
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Yeah.
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So he loved it.
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Ian loved it.
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And they were concerned about his behavioral issues, but he was so well behaved.
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He did it, he was so, he was just like, he was amazing in class and he loves it.
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Um, now scheduling's tough, so they're not able to like continue on with it, but I think eventually they're gonna get the him and also his twin sisters into jujitsu, which will be great.
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Yeah, I feel like twins is like a superpower in jujitsu.
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Yeah, you got like the meows, yes, the rotolos.
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Yes, I can't think of any more right now, but like siblings imagine.
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Imagine female twins too.
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Yeah, well the Fenegra.
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Uh-huh.
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AOJ.
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There you go.
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Yeah.
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I think if you do jujitsu and you have a twin, you have like 1.5 skill amplifier.
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Like, yeah.
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You twins are so in tune with each other that the second one twin learns something, the other one's gonna pick it up through osmosis, like immediately.
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And then like I train with my brothers, and the way I train with them is just different than with other people.
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Like, we we don't really train hard anymore, but like we used to try to kill each other.
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I just didn't get those kind of looks.
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So imagine like a twin, you have like twin animosity going on.
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I've been training a pair of twins that are like young boys, and like they work with me because it's like hard for them to do classes, so we do like private sessions, but I can see like just like the power of it is like the way that they go after each other.
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It's like it's like a deat match every time, you know, and then they're they're still so sweet, they'll like finish it and be like, Oh, I love you, bro.
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Like, oh yeah, like 30 seconds ago, I was about to like step in and separate y'all.
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Yeah, it's a it's a really cool way.
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I think like jujitsu for for kids especially is just so good for like the tapping on both sides, like giving up and then like also having the control over something and then allowing someone to like escape.
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I think that's like particularly what hits for like for what I was, which was like an adolescent boy with like regulation control, probably, and like it taught me to like calm down and ask for mercy sometimes, but then also eventually learning how to have that like real power, but then like controlling that too.
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Um, so you started you said Gracie Baja, was that here in Texas?
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That was my first gym, yeah.
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That was South uh South Austin on Brody Lane.
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Nice.
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What yeah, what was like the first catalyst for you to get into jujitsu?
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Uh boredom.
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Honestly, I was bored out of my mind lifting weights.
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And I had I started lifting in 08.
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Oh wow.
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Um, so I'm 42.
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And uh at the time I was doing Pilates.
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I was I was living in Boston at the time.
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I'm from Austin, by the way.
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I'm native.
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So I have that unicorn horn there.
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Um I was living in Boston at the time, teaching Pilates full-time, well, part-time and going to school part-time and lifting weight.
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And I was kind of like, well, this is really boring, you know.
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Um, then I moved to Austin for physical therapy school, did that, and just kind of like lifted throughout grad school um and did some dancing as well, like two-stepping, whatnot, so I'd let my hair down.
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But anyway, I was just like, why am I lifting?
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Like for like what's what's the purpose?
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Do you be strong?
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Yeah, I get, I get it, right?
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But I wanted something different.
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And I, as a former dancer, I used to be a professional dancer, I loved um learning techniques.
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Like that was my main thing.
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Like in modern modern dance, you learn Ailey technique and Cunningham technique.
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And I know this probably doesn't mean a lot to you guys.
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What is that?
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Whatever that is.
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Um, and I wanted to learn martial arts, and I first started uh with uh kung fu, actually.
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Because at the time one of my one of my clients, um, I'm a physical therapist, right?
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One of my clients was uh a black belt in kung fu.
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And she was like, Oh, come to my school and try it out.
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So I did, and uh God, I was talking about talk about boredom.
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That was really boring.
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So I was just like practicing moves, like punching and kicking the air, you know, memorizing this like routine.
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So I but I did it for a month, right?
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And I got my uh yellow stripe in Jitsu.
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Um, and then my I guess I have my husband to thank for this, my ex-husband.
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He was like, Well, why don't you try jujitsu?
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Um, because his brother-in-law did it, and he had done it for like six months and loved it.
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And so I did, and I went to like five different schools, did all like the trial classes.
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I did a trial week at Paragon, and this was back in 2018, and um I got injured like three times in a week.
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Like minor injuries, but you know, I knew that Paragon was known for being like really intense, you know, which it was, and I I did enjoy that, but I was like, maybe this isn't the one for me.
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And um, and then I ended up at uh Gracie Baja, and I just like it was just super nice, like the vibe was really chill, very family-oriented, you know.
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So I really enjoyed that.
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And I enjoyed the curriculum.
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I I was like drawn to the curriculum that they that they have for fundamentals because a lot of schools you go to that's just like you're just learning this random techniques every day.
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So I did that for three years.
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Oh wow.
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Yeah, I was at Grace Bow for three years doing mostly ghee.
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And so I got, you know, really strong fundamentals, but then at one point I was like, well, like what else is there?
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kind of thing.
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And like the advanced classes weren't really structured.
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And then at that point, Danaher had moved to Austin, and so I was like, Well, I've got to go trade with John Danaher.
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Yeah, and you were like involved enough with the sport at that point to know that like one of the greatest coaches of all time is coming to town.
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Oh yeah.
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Like I was like watching YouTube videos of him, you know, this whole time, and then like to see him in real in real life in this small little gym on Guadalupe.
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Yeah, you know, it was like, yeah, that was a trip for sure.
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What would you say were like the differences between because I've never actually trained at a Gracie Baja, even though I've trained for a long time.
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What would you say is like the difference between what you experienced at Gracie Baja versus with John as far as like structure and like maybe rituals?
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What's what's the word I'm looking for?
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Yes.
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Like etiquette.
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Yeah, like etiquette.
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Yeah, I guess etiquette would be part of that.
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Yeah, definitely.
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I I enjoy the etiquette personally, like the bowing on the mat and everything.
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That was very much a keystone at um at Gracie Baja.
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You know, we lined up in order in belt order, right?
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You bow into class, you do the warmups, you know, the jumping jacks and the push-ups and the hip escapes and and all of that before class.
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And then, you know, at the end, you would bow out as well.
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Uh so, but you know, with with John, there's none of that.
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There's no warm-up, there's no bowing.
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At the end, you do shake shake his hand at the end of class.
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But that's like a little bit.
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I I'm the same way where like the other day I had one of our brown belts like tie his belt facing away from the mat, which like I don't know if that's that's like a that's kind of like a rule at Gracie Baja.
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Yeah.
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And I actually kind of called out to all of the the rest of the guys around, like, oh, this guy, this guy's got some class.
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And it's not that like I'm going to run around at Fight Factory and say, hey, you guys gotta tie your belt facing the wall, but when you do it, like I felt that little him trying to, you know, not be undressed around everyone, I guess is kind of like the intention behind it.
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But I do like some of those things.
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I also like the bowing before you get on the mat, because like I've coached kids for a really long time and I've seen the difference of when I like had that rule versus when I didn't, and like it still helps that we make them take their shoes off.
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So there's a little bit of like a mindset shift for getting on the mat anyway.
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But I feel like the bow to the mat does help, especially with the children, where that way they're like, okay, this is a special place with special rules.
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Let me kind of like think for one second before I get onto the mat.
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Yes, but I think there's a lot of like weird, maybe not even toxic, but just kind of unnecessary things with like some of those rituals.
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And like I've been to gyms where you like bow to a picture of like a Gracie guy on the wall, and I'm like, this is bizarre.
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I don't need to do that to get better at jujitsu.
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And I don't think there's like as much payoff, but you know, they have their ways, and not even like all Gracies are all the same, because the guy I'm talking about is like from Carlson Gracie, which is like not Gracie Baja, but I guess somewhere they still have like their traditions that they were all taught and kept alive pretty well.
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Um, and I've I've taken at least one class from John and it was more of like an MMA setting, but it was really cool just like seeing everyone just like quietly lurking around the mat waiting for him to start, and there's like no clear start time, it's just like whenever he's ready.
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Correct.
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So I feel like at Gracie Baja, it's probably like on time, stick to the schedule.
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No, still still Brazilian time.
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Which one do you go to?
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That's funny.
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What are there any um particular like habits or or anything like that that you've taken from when you started at Gracie Baja and carried on throughout the different gyms you trained at?
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Good question.
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Nothing at the top of mind comes to me really right now, but I think I think my fundamentals are have always been really strong.
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And I I noticed that when I I went to um coach for a training friend of mine.
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She was competing at White Belt for the first time, and it's like she would she was in like you know, side control bottom and didn't know how to escape from that.
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And I thought, you should, you know, like the the Gracie Baja hip, you know, like the elbow escape, that's what what John calls it, or like the you know, the hip bump, shrimp escape, you know, thing things like that.
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Just I I'm glad that I had that foundation before working with John because I don't know how else I would have learned those things other than just you know, kind of along the way or rolling with other people to know.
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I feel that as like a coach, that people that start like the way you did at Gracie Baja ultimately makes you like an easier student to coach for the long term.
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Because like it's easier to take away all the traditions and stuff, but I do think that they start beginners at a really good spot and actually do build them up.
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Um, I think that it would probably get more boring as you hit like blue and purple belt at Gracie Baja, but I can say from my end, like it's I at least kind of know what you know coming into it.
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Whereas like people that are at like 10th planet, they might know how to do like a truck roll in a vaporizer knee bar, but they don't know like basic stuff, you know.
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Right.
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And then there's the different names of things that you know, like I don't like I don't really know the truck stop whatever that is.
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Like oh, do you know about like the the extent of like 10th planet names?
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Uh I can imagine.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So they there's a sandwich somewhere.
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I know there's something about it.
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There's a ham sandwich.
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That's fellow.
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Yeah, there's the ham sandwich, you got like crackhead control, and you got like the zombie.
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I mean they Eddie has renamed almost everything, including all of his funky submissions that are just kind of like obscure, weird planet stuff.
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He's got names for all that, but then he also has like his own names for stuff that other places, other sports just have a different name for the thing.
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Um yeah, like if if you can speak tenth planet, then it actually does make sense.
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But if you can't, then you're just hearing all these crazy words.
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Yeah.
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Did you experience any of that with the difference between Gracie Baja to training with Danaher?
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Where there was like a different way of describing things?
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Not really.
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I mean, learning the Japanese terms with, you know, after some repetition that that got into my brain.
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Yeah.
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You know, but I I like slowly adopted them.
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I feel like whenever B Team and New Wave came to town, I just started like picking up on it from basically coaching side by side, right?
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Going to competitions and seeing athletes go, B Team and New Wave athletes and hearing their coach and then watching what they're doing and just kind of like reverse engineering everything.
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And then over time I became like a Japanese name coach.
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Yeah.
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Well, like I use a lot of them now.
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And I mean, I guess like you said from like YouTube videos of John, I definitely picked up a lot from there.
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I think the funny thing is like I guess these guys are, you know, John's from New Zealand, and then a bunch of his guys are like from New York, and they're like various English accents saying Japanese words.
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Because I don't have like a super Texas accent, but I have enough that like I call like sauce like saucy.
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I was like, I have no idea how to say that word in Japanese or with a Japanese accent, but it's saucy to me, you know.
00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:34.399
So you said um uh students coming from Gracie Baja are ultimately easier to train, like coming in like from fundamentals.
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How different do you think it would have been for me?
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Because you know I basically have been training under him my whole entire like since I started jujitsu, you know, and all I know is Fight Factory for the most part.
00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:57.919
I think for you, you would have gotten bored more quickly because I doubt they would let you even like roll for a while.
00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:04.720
And I've as far as I remember, you were probably like rolling on like at least your first week at Fight Factory, if not your first day.
00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:06.960
Uh yeah, I remember rolling first day.
00:17:07.039 --> 00:17:08.720
Shout out, shout out Jonathan.
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Dude, because if I like if I had you in my class now on your first day looking at you, you'd be like, Yeah, you're fighting today, you know?
00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:20.880
Because like you're like a jacked guy, so I'm not like super worried that you're gonna get hurt.
00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:23.920
So I think at Fight Factory you got thrown straight into it.
00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:24.960
That's probably what got you hooked.
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Whereas like a Gracie Baja, maybe like going too slow for too long might make you just kind of like burn out.
00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:31.759
Yes, I I'm not trying to do jumping.
00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:34.799
But it'd be great if he actually had some fundamentals.
00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:36.799
Yeah, keep dreaming.
00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:39.359
All right.
00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:47.599
I mean, we're we're kind of all over the place, but you at least like dropped that you you work as a physical therapist now, and then you mentioned the the Pilates earlier.
00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:50.720
I got a kick out of this, and I think Wico will too.
00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:56.880
Is the guy that started Pilates, Joseph Hubertus, Hubertus Pilates?
00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:58.160
Pilates, yes.
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Pilates, a German guy, yeah, uh moved to New York, started his thing in like the 20s.
00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:10.720
Um, but he's he's a big lover of names, so I'm sure he'll he'll Hubertus audio fixate on that.
00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:14.880
Throw that into my, I don't know, my my marketing or something, maybe, huh?
00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:16.160
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:16.480 --> 00:18:20.000
Authentic Pilates from Joseph Hubertus Pilates.
00:18:20.640 --> 00:18:27.279
What caught my attention is this guy allegedly was a circus performer and a boxer, and I always find stuff like that really cool.
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Of like I've spent most of my life working in like combat sports, most of that's just coaching jujitsu.
00:18:32.960 --> 00:18:39.039
Um, but it's really cool seeing something that's like a fitness, I don't know, method, I guess you could call it.
00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:39.440
Yeah.
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Um, that's started by someone else that was like in the combat sports world.
00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:51.359
And that never surprises me because I feel like people that are like looking for the highest human performance, there's always some like relationship to martial arts or or combat.
00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:51.759
Yeah.
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True.
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Yes, it's a yeah, it's a little known fact that um it's named after some a man named Joseph Heber just Pilates, right?
00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:04.079
And uh he he actually called it contrology.
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Yeah.
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The study of control.
00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:08.559
It's a mouthful, contrology.
00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:09.440
That's tough.
00:19:09.680 --> 00:19:12.160
Um, but there is that should be what jujitsu is called.
00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:16.480
I mean, it's it's it's true, but you're controlling somebody else.
00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.000
Yeah, that's that's really good.
00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:19.119
That's a good point.
00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:25.680
Oh god, it's a good point, but um, but yeah, it's all about controlling your body and your breath.
00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:36.000
So the the six main principles of Pilates is uh centering, uh concentration, control, flow, and precision and breathing.
00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:41.519
And those are all things you need in jujitsu for like any fighting like sport, right?
00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:58.960
And so that's why I, you know, I opened my own practice a little over a year ago now, um, because I was just tired of working in a clinic and not really being able to work with patients the way that I wanted to work with them because you're limited by time and insurance, etc.
00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:05.599
So uh, you know, I was like, well, there's plenty of jujits uh jits athletes here in Austin.
00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:07.359
Yeah, you know, controllogists.
00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:10.000
Contrologists, yes.
00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:14.640
That are broken that are broken, yeah.
00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:19.359
I mean, my my my niche is the the the middle-aged jujitsu athlete.
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Hell yeah, and uh and incorporate Pilates as well because you know I've been teaching that since like 2008.
00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:41.119
So, you know, it's just a great, it's a great compliment, it's a great tool to have when rehabbing, but that also giving people a great movement and like core foundation for any sport or any activity that you want to do.
00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:45.279
Is it pretty dependent on the equipment to do Pilates?
00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.480
Like I can do yoga in my living room, just throw it on a mat.
00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:55.519
Is there as much to do in Pilates by yourself, or does it really help to have all of like the crazy contraptions I see?
00:20:55.759 --> 00:21:05.279
I mean it helps, but you know, there is the Pilates mat routine, and I teach a core mobility class every Friday at VAW.
00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:06.160
Shut up, okay.
00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:06.720
Plug.
00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:13.920
Nice and uh it's it's a yeah, it's a Pilates-based class, and we don't we don't use very much equipment at all.
00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:18.640
We just use like the belt and maybe like a block, but you can do it, do it with nothing.
00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:21.920
But you have to know how to how to use your body, right?
00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:28.319
And the the equipment is there to help you learn how to work your body without the equipment.
00:21:28.559 --> 00:21:29.759
Okay, if that makes any sense.
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It kind of like plugs you into your core like automatically, like like it's harder to mess it up.
00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:39.519
Then it just like isolates more one muscle at a time, I imagine.
00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:41.440
It's not isolating muscles, actually.
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It's it's working your whole fascial system together as a as an orchestra.
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Like we want you want your body to move, especially as a fighter, to move like an orchestra, like like a like a symphony.
00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:58.960
Like every it has to every little you know, muscle fiber has to fire at the right time in the right.
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Like time during the motion.
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Does that make sense?
00:22:02.960 --> 00:22:05.680
So there's there's also something called like core coordination.
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And that's what Pilates really helps you with is coordinating how do I use my core.
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Like I get people all the time that are like, oh, I have a really strong core.
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I can do like you know, toes to bar, you know, from hanging from a bar, you know, lifting your toes up to your to your fists.
00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:26.640
But yet they can't do a lot of the Pilates work because it's just a different way of moving your body, you know.
00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:29.839
One of the uh it's got you kind of have to experience it.
00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:31.119
Yeah, I need to try it.
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:32.240
Yeah, yeah, you do.
00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:34.160
Yeah, you just tried it recently.
00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:35.519
Yeah, it was dope.
00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:36.319
It's dope.
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I love it.
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It's fun.
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One of one of the um best compliments I've ever received, or at least the one that I thought was the most flattering, was uh somebody told me that I move well.
00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:55.440
And I was like in like the Pilates class, uh in jujitsu.
00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.839
Oh in jujitsu.
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And and in um lifting, you know, because like there's a lot of like movements that have a lot going on, you know.
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And um, yeah, I don't know.
00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:09.920
It's just it was nice.
00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:15.119
Yeah, and Pilates, the the movements in Pilates are based in gymnastics.
00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:30.079
And so, you know, even like John Danaher and you know, fitness experts in general say gymnastics is the best way, like if you're gonna like, you know, groom your child or something to become like an athlete, start them in gymnastics.
00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:32.240
Right, you've heard that, right?
00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:45.039
Um, so a lot of us adults, we haven't, we haven't, we can't go back in time and do gymnastics as kids, but you can do Pilates, and that's it, it's still like gymnastics based, and it helps you move really, really well.
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:55.839
So it goes! I am going to my first gymnastics class tonight.
00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:56.720
Oh, no way.
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Really?
00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:58.960
Yeah, where it's awesome.
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Uh I think it's called like Austin Elite Gymnastics or something like that.
00:24:05.599 --> 00:24:08.720
It's like stupid far, like Lake Way or something.
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:09.279
Oh yeah.
00:24:09.680 --> 00:24:10.160
We'll see.
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I don't know.
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I want to hear all about it.
00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:13.440
Yeah, I can't wait to see you do a backflip.
00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:15.039
Yes, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:21.039
All I want to do, I I I'm going because I saw uh Matt, Matty Grapps, go out there.
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And I was like, I'm sick! And he's like, come through.
00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:27.119
Uh all I want to do is just I just want to do a backflip.
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:30.480
You know, I think with a backflip in five in five minutes.
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:31.680
For sure you could.
00:24:32.559 --> 00:24:39.039
As a former gymnastics coach, I'm telling you, you could definitely do a backflip in like five minutes if you if you had the right cueing.
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I'm gonna full send break myself, and I'll see you later.
00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:54.240
How do you think that because the way when I think of Pilates, I think of like suburban moms going to get a workout, right?
00:24:54.319 --> 00:25:00.640
So how did it get this reputation as like that type of like a fitness model?
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:06.799
And then what needs to happen to get like combat sports guys like me to go try it?
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:08.960
Yeah, I feel you on that.
00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:21.119
And this is what I'm trying to like, this is partially my my mission in life to to counter this whole idea that Pilates is for rich housewives that want the good naked, like seriously, but that's what it is.
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:21.759
That's what it is.
00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:22.799
I mean let's be real.
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I know in the bottom.
00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:26.319
How did it how did it become that way?
00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:32.400
It became that way partially back in the day when Joseph Pilates moved to the United States.
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:42.559
Um, he was in New York City at the time and he opened his studio in the same building as the New York City Ballet, I believe it was the New York City Ballet.
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:46.319
And so a lot of the injured dancers would go and train with Pilates.
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:54.319
And then like you the dance community just kind of took it over over the years.
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.200
It kind of got passed down through through dancers.
00:25:57.519 --> 00:25:59.119
Man, and that's now a hundred years ago.
00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:00.160
That's crazy.
00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:01.119
Wow, it is.
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:01.519
Yeah.
00:26:01.839 --> 00:26:02.640
1926.
00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:02.799
Yeah.
00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:04.000
Did a call.
00:26:04.240 --> 00:26:05.680
Yeah, that was when it came over.
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:12.720
So what do we do now to to make it more inviting for the the bro science guys of the world?
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:14.880
Well, I'm doing my best.
00:26:15.119 --> 00:26:15.440
Okay.
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.720
Like I said, I mean I have my class, which is all all men, actually.
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:23.359
There's like very few females that come to my class.
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:25.680
Um, so props to those guys.
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:26.400
Yeah.
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.880
And it's just just try just trying it out, really.
00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:32.640
You know, it's it's hard.
00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:35.119
It's it's very challenging work.
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:45.839
I will say though, be wary of places that have more than eight reformers, because those are the places where you're more likely to get injured.
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:47.119
Why is that?
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:51.279
Because the there's only one teacher teaching a full class.
00:26:51.599 --> 00:26:52.480
Because of the ratio.
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:55.680
I see the ratio of teacher to to student.
00:26:55.839 --> 00:27:07.839
And legitimately, I have heard uh I met this one guy, this was years ago, but I met this one guy at some function, and Pilates came up and he was like, Oh yeah, I tore my rotator cuff doing Pilates.
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:09.519
And I was like, What?
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:11.359
How is that possible?
00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:18.960
You know, and he said he was in a big class and they were doing something standing on the reformer, and he like fell off.
00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:23.359
And like when he landed, he broke his fall, he tore his rotator cuff.
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:25.440
Maybe he needs to learn how to break fall.
00:27:25.759 --> 00:27:27.599
Yeah, let's start there.
00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:36.400
Yeah, I think you know, if I could have a uh a practice that was attached to a jujitsu school, that would be badass.
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:40.079
Yeah, then I'd be getting those fighters doing Pilates with me.
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:40.720
Yeah.
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.279
And then they would be killing it.
00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:56.960
When you're on the mat, even if you're not like a coach as like a physical therapist and as like a Pilates instructor, do you see that the people in the classes and you can like identify like, oh man, you just need to like do some Pilates and that would help your jujitsu movement?
00:27:57.680 --> 00:27:58.240
Oh, completely.
00:27:58.480 --> 00:27:59.759
I feel I feel that way.
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:03.519
Even when I'm rolling with someone, I can feel where they're weak.
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:05.920
You know, I I just have that sense.
00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:06.400
Yeah.
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.160
Um, but yeah, totally.
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.480
I mean, it can benefit everybody.
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:17.599
Um it's it's quite it's it's a very unique form of fitness, I'll put it that way.
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:22.319
And it's unique because of the spring resistance, right?
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:26.880
The springs are what we use in Pilates for the resistance instead of instead of weights.
00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:38.160
And your at your at your cellular level, the the unit that's like actually contractile in your muscle, that protein, is shaped like a spring.
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:43.920
So it makes sense to use springs to give your body feedback for movement.
00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:49.039
And that would like say if it's doing something like stretching, it's getting like the more force at the end of the stretch, too.
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:49.920
Correct.
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:51.119
Yes.
00:28:51.599 --> 00:29:00.000
And you you build resilience and strength and stability at the end ranges of all of your joints.
00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.319
So then like your shoulder, for example, like you're in a kamura, right?
00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:10.160
And maybe you have a tight shoulder, or you maybe even you're flexible, but you're not stable in your flexibility, right?
00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:23.839
But if you have that Pilates work behind you and you have that foundation of stability and mobility, then you can escape your Kimura, you know, just kind of build building whatever escape you want.
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.599
It's it makes you much more robust as a fighter.
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:32.079
Can we can we break down um difference between stability and mobility?
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.039
Because I know a lot of folks can get it confused and things like that.
00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:36.720
Between stability and mobility?
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:37.759
Mm-hmm.
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:49.920
So stability is just the ability to have, you know, you you can move one body part, or sorry, keep one body part still while moving the other body part, right?
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:51.279
And this happens all the time in pull out.
00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:57.759
Right.
00:29:58.079 --> 00:30:02.240
But you need that stability before you can have mobility.
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.279
So let's we'll take the shoulder for as the perfect example.
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:11.039
Imagine people doing those um, those shoulder stretches against a wall, right?
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:12.799
Where they're reaching their arms up on the wall.
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:13.519
Are you with me?
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:19.279
Well, a lot of times people will like arch their back to get their arm up on the wall.
00:30:19.839 --> 00:30:26.720
But then there's actually no shoulder mobility happening there because they're not stable in their trunk, right?
00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:31.200
They gotta keep their trunk stable and so let's keep it keep it on the wall, right?
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:37.200
Keep your spine and trunk on the wall while you're moving your arm back to create that stability.
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:42.880
I'm sorry, mobility in your shoulder while you have stability in your trunk, aka your core.
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:43.519
Gotcha.
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:45.759
Does that answer the question, you think?
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:46.559
For sure.
00:30:46.720 --> 00:31:01.680
So what um different types of like are there particular uh movements um that you can do to like increase stability in uh certain you know the body parts and mobility?
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.799
Is it uh is it something that you can do both at the same time?
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:12.720
Or whenever you're working something you should focus on, oh I'm working on stability of my core or stability of like I don't know, I got knee issues, right?
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:21.440
So trying to trying to button that up versus um yeah, I'm sorry, should you do like focus on one at a time?
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:26.960
Like I'm working on stability of this right now and not do like I don't know both, right?
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:28.240
Is that a valid thing?
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:29.839
Or is it possible to do both?
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:32.160
Or yeah, I I see what you're saying.
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.640
It's always going to depend on the person really and what their constitution is.
00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:43.680
Like do they do they tend to be more mobile or do they tend to be more stiff, right?
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:51.680
But I will say you have to you have to excuse me, you have to you have to move your limbs.
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:54.720
Say we're say we're working on trunk stability, right?
00:31:55.200 --> 00:32:02.240
You have to then kind of move your limbs, arms or legs, to challenge the stability of your trunk.
00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:09.440
And then vice versa, say I'm working on my hip mobility or my hip stability, right?
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:12.000
Then I have to do the opposite.
00:32:12.319 --> 00:32:13.680
Does that make sense?
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:14.799
I think so.
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:18.720
So I guess I'm not under understanding your question correctly.
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:27.920
So for stability for stability.
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:28.720
Stability.
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:44.000
The goal is to keep something tight when uh keep something like tight or or stable under like external pressures, right?
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:56.960
So I'm thinking of um of uh say you have like a kettlebell um on a resistance band and you're just walking with it in kind of like a waiter carry.
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:01.599
So you have the kettlebell, each step you take, the kettlebell is like bouncing, right?
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:06.559
And it's wanting to kind of uh bend you over.
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:07.119
Yes.
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:18.960
So every time you take a step and you're marching, this would that be considered like a stability movement because you're working your core to stay tight and upright.
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:19.839
Exactly.
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.319
Yes, it would be a stability exercise, yes.
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:29.920
And mobility would be the uh the wall um like shoulder stretch, right?
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:38.799
We're trying to move that and uh extend that range while keeping everything else like without cheating or something like that.
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:39.599
Correct.
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:41.279
Maintaining stability.
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:42.960
So you you need both, right?
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:50.000
And most injuries happen because you have too much of one or the other, like you're too stiff or you're too unstable.
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.759
Like like too like too stable being stiff, right?
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.279
Um, or too too mobile, right?
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:02.640
And the great thing about Pilates is that it balances out all of those things in your entire body.
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.440
I was on the reformer, is that what it was?
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:05.920
Uh-huh.
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:06.240
Yeah.
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:07.119
Reformer.
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:12.239
I was on the reformer um with her like a week or two ago or something like that.
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:13.920
She was having me do some.
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:15.519
I don't know what it was.
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:16.639
It was like it was like a pike.
00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:18.400
Yeah, it was a pike, uh-huh, right?
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:19.199
On the reformer.
00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:21.599
And you know about my ab cramps.
00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:22.239
Right.
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.239
It was they were singing, bro.
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:25.440
It was wrong.
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:32.480
I get like these really weird, like individual ab just like just like locks up.
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.519
And it was, I was pretty close to crying.
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:39.119
Maybe you could use some uh diaphragm release.
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.599
I thought you were gonna say hydration.
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:50.159
Or hydration, or hydration, but yeah, you might might need some, you might be having some tightness in your abdominal wall.
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:52.880
We can yeah, we can explore that.
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:58.559
Yeah, we we joke a lot about how we're like a yin and yang.
00:34:58.800 --> 00:34:59.199
Uh-huh.
00:34:59.440 --> 00:34:59.679
Right?
00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:05.840
There's hair and no hair and no hair on on the same kind of spectrum.
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:17.199
Like, I love that you you pair like the stiffness with stability because sometimes I work with stiff people and they like want to be so mobile, and I'm like, look, yeah, you're stiff, but you're so stable.
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:24.400
And there's in grappling, there's like a payoff for both of those, where he is in some cases very stiff, but super stable.
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:49.760
I'm hypermobile, so I struggle with stability really badly, but I'm long, lanky, and super flexible, so I can contort into all sorts of crazy positions, but I get injured all of the time, and I'm definitely like your classic patient or like I ideal jujitsu patient because I've been doing it for so long, and I've always been hypermobile, so that's just caused injuries throughout my entire career.
00:35:50.239 --> 00:36:03.679
Um, and I can see how we'll talk more after, but like my specific issues, and and I definitely could see how you could help me, but more importantly, just that distinction that like I don't think all stiffness is bad because of the stability that it can create.
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:04.960
Oh, I agree with you.
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:19.679
I agree with you, but you know, it there's like to me, there's like two types of people in the world: people that have a stiff lower back and more mobile hips, or they have stiff hips and a too flexible back.
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:20.880
Right?
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.199
It's it's too it's too mobile in their lower back.
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:28.239
And so like you have to, and that's the center of your body, your hips and your lower back and your pelvis, right?
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.639
So the lumbopelvic girdle, right?
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.079
And so that's where you've got to stabilize from.
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:35.679
And that's what Please does.
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.360
It evens out the balance, the in or imbalance that somebody might have there.
00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:47.840
Yeah, I like I said, I haven't ever tried it before, and it's not because I'm like embarrassed to try it and because it's like a hot mom kind of workout.
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:55.760
Um, it just in the paths I've crossed, I've never come across someone like you that's like in the jujitsu world that does it and encourages it or something like that.
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:59.280
Um pretty much always willing to try out new things.
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:04.800
But I I think it'd be really good for me because I do care so much about flexibility and mobility.
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:11.519
Um, but I know where I'm lacking, and for me personally, I would benefit a lot more from the stability side.
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:18.159
Whereas my counterpart here, I think, has plenty of stability, definitely could increase his mobility.
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:27.039
Yes, and for people like like you that are more mobile, you're not going to lose your flexibility doing pull audience, but you're going to gain stability within your mobility.
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:45.360
And that's that's what I've struggled so much with different uh methods of like strength training, is that like in certain things I just cannot overcome the flexibility factor where as I get stronger on things, I lose so much flexibility and then I end up stretching it back out, and it feels like I almost lose the strength again.
00:37:45.840 --> 00:38:01.360
Um and and that also just goes into like the style of jujitsu that I'm doing, where like the more rounds I'm doing, I just seem to like devolve back to that jujitsu state of like super flexible hips, but very tight because my knees are always pulled up to my chest and my back super rounded.
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:02.960
Yes.
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:05.360
I know I know the archetype.
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:17.840
Yeah, yeah, it it's I feel like um when you say like your your two points, that's kind of how I look at like the jujitsu athletes that I see too, where it's like, okay, everyone's in one of those two categories for me.
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.920
For you, you're talking about like hips and and lower back.
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:27.599
I'm like, all right, you either need more mobility or more stability, you know, because there's very few people out there, like we mentioned the Rotolos earlier.
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:33.760
I don't know exactly what their trading methods are, but they're definitely in principle what you described, right?
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:38.800
Those guys are extremely strong and balanced at the absolute end range of motion.
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:44.239
They're they're one of the most flexible jujitsu athletes that can still move people at those end ranges, you know.
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:51.119
Whereas like people like me, I'm flexible and I can get bent all sorts of ways, but the strength in certain positions just completely goes away.
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:51.599
Yeah.
00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:59.280
You know, what are um some of the most common issues you've seen like grapplers come in to you for help with?
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.199
You know, like is it like lower back, neck?
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:01.760
Yeah.
00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:06.159
So for me, it's been necks, a lot of neck injuries.
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.000
In fact, somebody reached out to me this morning before I came over about their neck.
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:11.920
And it's funny because I'll ask John too.
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.239
I was like, John, like what are the most common injuries you've seen?
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:15.599
And he never mentioned neck.
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.920
It was always like knees, lower back, shoulders, you know.
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.719
But I think in my experience, definitely neck by far is number one.
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:30.159
Um, and shoulder and knees.
00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:34.159
Those are the big three for me that I that I see.
00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:39.119
For neck injuries, I'm sure everything's like different depending on the circumstances and all.
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:47.760
But is it do you think it would be accurate to say that it would help if people like like strength train their neck?
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:48.559
I I don't know.
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:50.559
I know Oh yes, for sure.
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:53.760
Yeah, but not in the way that a lot of people already do.
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:54.400
Yeah.
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.079
A lot of people use like the iron neck.
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:57.360
First thing I thought of, yeah.
00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:58.880
Which I which is fine.
00:39:59.119 --> 00:39:59.840
It's okay.
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:02.320
It's not I'm not gonna say don't use the iron neck.
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:03.599
It's like it's all right.
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.079
But you gotta think about it.
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.880
Like your your neck is part of your entire body, okay?
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:11.199
So you it's it's not detached, you know.
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:14.320
We can't we can't detach your neck from your spine, for example.
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:16.400
So you have to work your whole body.
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:28.880
So you just having like core, like true core strength, which it means core coordination, um, and various relationships to gravity is number one.
00:40:29.039 --> 00:40:36.559
Um, and so what I normally teach people is also like a deep neck flexor exercise that also includes your whole core.
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:43.280
So the the deep neck flexors are just muscles that are like the right in the very front of your spine.
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:52.639
And the iron neck does not work, the deep neck flexors, and those are the stabilizers of your neck, so those are the main ones that you want to strengthen.
00:40:53.280 --> 00:41:06.079
So to do that, that that's a whole other different kind of process to teach people how to do because oftentimes people will cheat by um using their larger neck muscle, the sternocleidomastoid muscle here, right?
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:07.920
That you can kind of grab onto.
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:12.639
Sternocleid sternocleidomastoid or SCM for short.
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:14.000
That was in here.
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:17.599
Because it's sternum, sternum, right?
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:19.360
Yeah.
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:20.960
Mastoids here.
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:21.440
Okay.
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:33.039
Uh so, anyways, yeah, the the neck, it's it's it's an art teaching how to strengthen the neck because you can't just give somebody a generic exercise and then okay, go home and do this.
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:39.599
Because oftentimes they're going to be compensating and not and not doing it crop you know properly.
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:46.079
I have I have two generic exercises that I do for my neck.
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:47.360
Please judge me.
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:48.000
No.
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:55.599
I take a resistance band, tie it on like a pull-up bar or whatever, hold it out here.
00:41:56.480 --> 00:42:04.639
I put my feet um basically underneath the pull-up bar, put that thing on my head, and then I lean at like 45.
00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:08.159
And then I'm there for two minutes.
00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.599
Um mostly just like isolated.
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:16.559
Um sometimes I'll do like, you know, kind of roll around if it gets a little hot, you know?
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:17.039
Yeah.
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.639
Um, and then I'll turn over and then I do the same thing, but leaning backward, 45.
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:23.039
Uh huh.
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:24.159
Two minutes.
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:25.440
Those are my two generic.
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:26.800
I like I actually like that.
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:33.679
Now where do you where do you feel the exercise when you're one?
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.000
Where you could also do it to the side.
00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:37.360
Don't be crazy.
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:38.079
Calm down.
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:38.880
You decide.
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:44.800
But but when you when you're doing it from the front, where do you feel the the the work in your neck?
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.840
Do we feel it more on the sides or more in the front or both?
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:51.599
I feel it in my sternocleidomastoids.
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:55.199
You just wanted to say that work.
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:56.480
I wanted to try it.
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:02.880
Um because ideally, ideally you would feel it like right where your Adam's apple is.
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.239
Then you'll know that you're working more the deep neck flexors.
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.519
I would say yes, because I was gonna say the abs of my neck.
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.079
And I feel like that's that's a core of your neck.
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:14.320
Yeah.
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.360
It is the core of your neck.
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:29.360
I can vouch for him that this definitely works because like we'll do like say if someone's trying to work on some kind of strangle in the gym, he'll be like the final boss of if you can do it right, because he's so hard to strangle because of his neck and shoulders.
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:35.599
So whatever he's doing is definitely helping because he's like the hardest guy, one of the hardest guys in the gym to choke.
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:36.239
Really?
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:37.679
But what about my my little arms?
00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:39.119
My little arms can get right underneath.
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:40.239
They can't get in there.
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:41.599
They they can get in there though.
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:42.400
That's how I feel.
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:43.360
I think it works better.
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:45.840
It's like more pressure, less surface area.
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:46.320
Yeah.
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:48.719
That's awesome.
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.280
Um I'm I'm I'm glad I'm glad it passed.
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:51.599
Yeah.
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:52.800
Feel good about it now.
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:52.960
Yeah.
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:55.920
You you mentioned a few injuries from Pilates.
00:43:56.719 --> 00:43:59.760
Like it doesn't seem that dangerous, but I know.
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:01.039
Did people get hurt?
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:02.960
I disagree.
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:04.320
I was so surprised.
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:04.639
Yeah.
00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:07.280
So it's not super common for you to deal with injuries.
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:08.800
You're mostly like not from Pilates.
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:10.400
Building people up, rehabbing them.
00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.599
I mean, for me, I I everything I do is one-on-one.
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:18.400
So there's no way someone's like gonna get injured on my watch, you know.
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:25.119
But uh yeah, I was I was I I don't think it's that um uncommon though.
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:26.079
Does that make sense?
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.000
It probably happens more than we think it does.
00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:28.559
Yeah.
00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:43.920
Well, and your your point of like anytime you have like sport or just like group exercise and like where the instructor to student ratio gets skewed too far, like it could be anything, and it's gonna result in some some accidents and and things like that.
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:44.960
Very true.
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.039
Is there a ratio that you think is too much?
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.760
You mentioned like one to eight is way too much.
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:51.360
That would be my limit.
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:52.480
One to eight.
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:52.880
Yeah.
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:53.360
Okay.
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:54.480
Yeah, for sure.
00:44:54.639 --> 00:45:11.840
Oftentimes I'll have people come to me for like a few Pilates sessions so that they can then go to a group's class setting because that way they know better what their own yeah, they kind of know what to do, they know the lingo, they know what their body needs, you know, because everyone's cue is going to be different.
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:16.880
It's not like every, you know, everyone needs the same cue, the same correction.
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:31.760
So would you say now like what you provide is kind of like a blend between your past experience as like a Pilates instructor and then going to physical therapy school, and then like since you're trying to work with jujitsu people, kind of like your experiences there are all kind of coming together?
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:33.599
Yeah, it's a whole amalgamation.
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:35.920
You know, it's a whole yeah, coming.
00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:40.239
And I'm I'm working on something new potentially.
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.599
Um, from uh nothing.
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:55.280
Hey, hey, hey, hey, um well, it it stems from my own personal experience with mental health, actually.
00:45:55.519 --> 00:45:55.840
Okay.
00:45:56.719 --> 00:46:00.639
So I've had three medic episodes in my life.
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:04.239
I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder back in 2017.
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:05.119
Okay.
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:14.639
And this was I it happened after I had graduated from physical therapy school, which was a very horribly stressful experience.
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:18.000
I don't know why they make it so stressful for students, but they do.
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:18.480
I don't know.
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:24.000
And it's and it's across the board, like all PT schools, even some Cairo schools, they make it really stressful.
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:32.559
Anyway, I was I had graduated and I was studying for the board exam to get licensed in Texas.
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:36.480
And two days before my board exam, I could not sleep.
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.679
I had gotten insomnia, and I never, it was very unusual for me.
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:41.679
I was always a really good sleeper.
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:45.840
I would, you know, five or ten minutes after hitting the pillow and I would be asleep.
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:50.159
But for whatever reason, I just my brain wouldn't turn off, right?
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:52.159
And I took the board exam.
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:57.920
Luckily, I ended up passing, but I also proceeded to then not sleep for like seven days.
00:46:58.239 --> 00:46:58.639
Whoa.
00:46:59.199 --> 00:46:59.840
Yeah.
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:06.559
I was staying with my parents at the time, thank goodness, because I was trying to save money during grad school.
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.519
And eventually they took me to a hospital.
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:13.119
Um, because I was just Looney Tunes.
00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:15.440
I thought my brother and I were psychic.
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.960
You know, I was like calling out stuff with my mom and dad.
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.159
Like I was, I would have these like huge like bouts of anger.
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:26.639
And I was always a very, excuse me, I was always a very chill person.
00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.360
Yeah, calm kid, whatever.
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:37.039
Um, but now having had three of these manic episodes, and they all had a kind of different themes to them.
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:44.719
Like the first one was all about how we're on screens all the time and no one talks to each other in public.
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:53.280
And like, no wonder it's hard to find, you know, a partner or, you know, meet new friends or whatever the case may be.
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:58.239
And like this is all these are all themes that hold true now, right?
00:47:58.400 --> 00:47:59.840
Like we could we could talk about that.
00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:01.760
And now, and now AI is happening.
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:04.000
That was my most recent medic episode.
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:05.920
Yeah, I don't blame you.
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:06.719
Yeah, yeah.
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.400
I can laugh about it now, but believe me, it wasn't very funny at the time.
00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:17.840
Um, yes, it's it's not it's not fun to be, you know, locked up in a mental health institution, but I don't blame you for for laughing.
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:33.360
It is, you know, we I'm thankful that I can laugh about it now, but like, yeah, like they you go to these like mental health institutions and they they're checking on you every 10 minutes to make sure that you're still, you know, there or alive or whatever.
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:36.480
And then they ask you, like, okay, well, have you been sleeping?
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:41.119
And it's like, well, no, because you keep waking me up every 10 minutes.
00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:42.320
It's like opening the door.
00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:44.719
Like, how am I supposed to get any sleep in here?
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.559
Or they'll ask, you know, have you been taking your uh your medication?
00:48:48.800 --> 00:48:51.679
And I'm like, well, you asked the nurse that.
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:22.960
So anyway, it got to me um to really look deeper into spirituality and energy work because I experienced a lot of that kind of during my manic episodes.
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:36.880
And I also have realized from my years as a physical therapist, I've been practicing since 2017, that not all physical injuries are due to physical problems.
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:41.840
Like some physical injuries are due to emotional problems, right?
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:43.840
Or spiritual problems.
00:49:44.159 --> 00:49:57.760
And we know this because you know, fascia, the which is that connective tissue that really touches every part of your body, your bones, your nervous system, your vessels, your organs, including your heart.
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:02.400
Uh, it connects directly to your uh spinal cord and brain.
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:06.639
So we know that you know, you you can store emotions in your tissues, right?
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:08.079
You have issues in your tissues, right?
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:09.599
Y'all have heard that before.
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:11.760
Please, you've heard that one before.
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:25.280
I don't go to therapy.
00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:26.960
Okay, just lift.
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:28.079
Exactly.
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:30.000
You look damn it, Shelly.
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:31.760
You look great.
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.639
You look amazing, yes, exactly.
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:41.599
Um, so I'm looking into uh treating something called the biofield.
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:43.280
Have you heard of this before?
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:44.400
You said treating?
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.320
Treating the biofield, yes.
00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:47.679
I am not familiar at all.
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:51.360
Your biofield, you could think of it as maybe your aura.
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:52.159
Okay.
00:50:52.719 --> 00:51:00.239
But we we as human beings, we emit um things called biophotons, which is basically like light.
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:04.800
Uh and we have an energy field surrounding us.
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:07.360
Like we know we have an electromagnetic field, right?
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:10.159
Like your heart has an electromagnetic field.
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:11.280
Yeah, we know this, right?
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.599
We we can accept this idea, right?
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:20.800
So therefore, our bodies have an electromagnetic field, which is also related to our biofield, right?
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.559
And so for somebody like me, I'm 42 years old.
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:29.599
My biofield is probably like six feet away from me, maybe eight, six to eight feet away from me.
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:36.320
And this is this comes from Eileen McCousick's work with um tuning forks.
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:43.599
Uh, and she has treated thousands and thousands of clients and has found patterns in their biofields.
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:54.639
So, what you'll do is you'll like click on this tuning fork and it'll have a it'll have an auditory vibration, and you comb it through someone's biofield or their space, right?
00:51:54.960 --> 00:52:02.960
And the idea is you can detect maybe something that's happened to me 20 years ago would be halfway to my body.
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:14.639
So in the 20s, maybe I have that traumatic event in my 20s, and you would hear that change in the tuning fork as you come through their biofield.
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:16.239
It's interesting.
00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.840
I know it makes you kind of think, oh, woo-woo, it's very woo-woo.
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:25.760
However, there are some studies about the biofield that we we we we know that we have a biofield.
00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:34.719
We all do, and you can you can feel it in somebody, like you can feel when somebody has good vibes or like vibes that don't really, you know, mesh with your vibes.
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:38.000
And you can feel it from across the room, even, you know.
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:43.440
We use that word so much, like vibes, vibes, yes, like all the time.
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:47.599
Yeah, and like we'll check in with each other on like how are the vibes doing today, you know?
00:52:47.760 --> 00:52:49.920
Yeah, depending on like what we need to do.
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:50.800
Yes, exactly.
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:57.039
Oftentimes I'll I'll pull up here, bring the uh bring the case, getting everything started.
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:07.599
Um this morning, I was listening to I I'd be singing, I'd be singing a lot on the mats, in the car, in the shower, everywhere, right?
00:53:07.920 --> 00:53:17.199
So on the way over here, I was singing Bee Gees and Um Le Miz on the way over here.
00:53:17.360 --> 00:53:24.719
And generally, whenever I I get out, he has this like oh shit, talk about vibes, right?
00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:31.440
He has this fucking thing where he just like senses my presence.
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:34.239
So I'll I'll I'll pull up.
00:53:34.559 --> 00:53:36.239
This is quantum physics right here.
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:38.320
Fucking go.
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.079
He just senses my presence.
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:42.320
I get out the truck and he opens the door.
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.960
I'm like, how do you do that every time?
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:46.480
That's amazing.
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:47.599
It's insane.
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:48.639
So I love it.
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:52.880
Yeah, typically when I get out, I'd be like, Vaza tie, vibes at high, Davis.
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:53.599
We're doing good.
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:54.400
Yeah, vibes.
00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:04.159
And there's even like the in between us, but then it's also like you said, like you can walk into a room or meet someone new, and then I'll be like, you know, like bad vibes, dude.
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:11.840
That guy's got bad vibes, and it's like not shout out vibes, you know, it's it's it's a combination of like a lot of things.
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:14.800
Um could be posture, tone, whatever.
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:17.519
Completely, but I mean biofield, bro.
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:28.480
When when you were talking, you know, when you were just describing the the biofield, like there's I feel like there's just like all these different tools, like different ometers of something, right?
00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:37.199
So you have like a thermometer, and like I guess some of the kind of in the branch of like facial recognition software is now doing like your thermal print.
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:43.280
So it's like another way of like just measuring that individual kind of heat signature from a person.
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:55.840
And like, I don't know if you've seen it, Whole Foods, they got like the palm reader, that's like these other ones where it's like I feel like the the biofield sounds like a combination of all those measurable things, but as like the whole, right?
00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.519
So that that uh that definitely makes sense.
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:04.480
Um, as for my sixth sense for knowing when people are at my house, I don't know.
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:06.719
I feel like I've always kind of been that way.
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:08.880
Yeah, I get the same thing with my brother.
00:55:09.039 --> 00:55:11.199
I'm like, yeah, he's home.
00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:17.199
But it's also like real life cues where like the dog perked its head up 30 seconds before I did.
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.039
So I'm like, right, the dog notices something.
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:19.840
Yeah, somebody's here.
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:23.679
You're a very well calibrated orometer.
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:28.000
Oh you are it's like it's like like gaydar.
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:30.719
There you go.
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:32.800
There you go.
00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:35.039
How 90s of you.
00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:39.840
I love that.
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:46.000
It in jujitsu people make a lot of jokes, but we actually are around a lot of gay people all the time.
00:55:46.320 --> 00:55:46.880
Are you?
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:49.679
Well, there's a lot of my gay dar is not very high.
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:50.079
I don't know.
00:55:50.320 --> 00:56:04.719
Well, especially here in Austin and and like the teams that you mentioned, you have a lot of like outwardly homophobic energy that I think comes across that way, but deep down there's like some something messing with their aura, you know?
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:05.280
Yes.
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:12.320
So I think like the the rampant gay jokes in the jujitsu community are like at a certain point non-ironic.
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:13.760
You know what I mean?
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:21.519
Because it's like the whole the whole thing with jujitsu is it's gay, and B team was making the keep jujitsu gay shirts and stuff like that.
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:26.480
And you know, we you mentioned very briefly at the beginning of like being a woman in jujitsu.
00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:37.360
I'm not convinced that making gay jokes all the time makes it a more uh uh like inclusive or like just better environment for everyone.
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:47.760
You know, like I don't think because like there's also gay dudes that train, and I'm sure like the the general jujitsu attitude towards gay dudes is like pretty negative.
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:49.440
I would I would assume so.
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:55.760
Yeah, and having that that same ad, I just don't think that it like generally makes people more welcome and comfortable on the mat.
00:56:56.000 --> 00:57:02.400
Yeah, I think they they probably have to be more secretive or feel like they need to be more secretive about it, which is unfortunate.
00:57:02.719 --> 00:57:08.480
It is, it's kind of like the other end of like Pilates being like a hot mom workout thing, yeah.
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:14.400
Like it for a while jujitsu is like an aggressive bro thing, but like neither of those things are true.
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:21.440
Yes, yes, so you could have big guys doing Pilates, there's nothing wrong with that, yeah.
00:57:21.599 --> 00:57:28.480
And I mean I've mentioned twice now, but like I'm teaching kids, it used to be mind-blowing to have a girl in a class.
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:31.280
Like, oh my gosh, there's a girl in kids' class, that's awesome.
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:31.840
Oh, really?
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:33.599
No women in the adult classes.
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:37.360
Now I've got more girls than boys on several days a week that can happen.
00:57:37.599 --> 00:57:38.320
That's great, you know.
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:45.840
So it's like with at least the youth, it's completely flipped, and that's why I care so much because like one day the girls from the kids' class are gonna grow up.
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:48.960
I want to make sure that they go into adult classes that are good, healthy environments for them.
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:52.880
Yeah, that's such such a tricky field to uh to navigate.
00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:53.360
Yeah.
00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:58.000
I mean, on that note, I had actually a fabulous experience this past Friday and Saturday.
00:57:58.239 --> 00:57:59.039
What a lot.
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:02.400
Well, I went to Val Friday and uh shout out Val.
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:07.360
I uh I taught my class and then I stayed for the the class afterwards.
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:10.239
Nice and just had really great roles with the guys.
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:14.800
It was like everything was like appropriate resistance and force, like all cool.
00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:22.719
And then on Saturday, went to Kingsway and I rolled with this, or I trained actually, I drilled with this one guy there.
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:29.679
I never met him before, but he was completely delightful, like probably in his 20s, but you know, bigger, stronger.
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:37.920
But we, you know, we kind of experimented together during the drill and we kind of helped each other through like some sticky points when we when we um you know trained.
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:39.840
It was it was like it was amazing.
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:42.079
I had like nothing but good experiences.
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:42.960
It's awesome.
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:43.440
Yeah.
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:44.639
It's how it should be.
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:45.760
It's how it should be.
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:46.159
Yeah.
00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:46.559
True.
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:49.599
And that that's I I that is the the case for me most of the time.
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:55.760
I have I have had by far positive experiences dealing with men, you know.
00:58:56.000 --> 00:59:01.679
I could probably like I can count on one hand the amount of bad experiences I've had in eight years.
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:02.880
So that's awesome.
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:03.920
That's yeah, that's good.
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:11.760
So going back a step, when we got to the biofield, you were talking about doing something new, something related to like yeah, the mental health.
00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:16.719
I'm gonna, yeah, getting back into treating the depth of the biofield with these tuning forks.
00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:17.119
Okay.
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:18.719
With vibration.
00:59:18.960 --> 00:59:28.880
Because we know that uh, and I say we, I mean like the scientific community knows that there's been, you know, research studies about how fascia reacts to vibration.
00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:29.199
Okay.
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:37.039
Including like sound bowls or singing bowls, because you know, most of our bodies were made of water, right?
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:42.159
And not only is it it's it's not only just water, it's charged water.
00:59:42.239 --> 01:00:00.559
It's ionized, or they call it easy water, or it's it stands for the exclusion zone, which is um a space just inside of the cell where water organizes as what they call it is like a liquid crystal formation, because the water forms a hexagonal structure.
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:04.400
But liquid crystal is just a fancy way of saying gel-like.
01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:05.199
Okay.
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:08.800
Because I because I was like, I was like, liquid crystal, like what the fuck is that?
01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:09.440
You know?
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:12.400
Seriously, it's a gel.
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:12.880
Okay.
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:29.840
But it's a it's a fourth state of water, and it it gets and it's organized through vibration or through grounding, like you know, putting your feet on the on the earth, um, or through even like light, like you know, doing like red light therapy can help a lot with that.
01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:42.239
So I'm excited to be able to, you know, eventually treat the biofield and treat people's pain, like if they're physical, you know, ailments that they're having through this different modality, right?
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:44.400
Not just through physical therapy or Pilates.
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:45.599
Does that make sense?
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:45.920
Yeah.
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:48.880
So kind of just treating the whole person more so.
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:49.599
Yeah.
01:00:49.760 --> 01:01:00.719
I've uh I started doing physical therapy with a with a physical therapist back in September, and we've made some really great breakthroughs, but I think like the biggest one, I went for my neck as a graphical.
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:11.119
I see, and I think one of the biggest breakthroughs was like slightly emotional, just in the sense of like he eventually got me to the point where he was like, dude, just go train.
01:01:11.199 --> 01:01:12.320
Your neck is gonna be fine.
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:13.920
You fuck it up, I'll help you out.
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:16.000
We'll do what we can to like try to make it better.
01:01:16.079 --> 01:01:21.679
But like basically just giving me a more of a confidence boost that had little to do with what the work we had done.
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:30.000
You know, I can see the changes in what the therapy's done for me, but there was probably no bigger change than just like my mindset shift, you know, completely.
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:50.639
So I could tell for myself, like I've constant chronic pain all the time, but at least like from after that conversation, I have had some really fun roles that I was kind of holding myself back from for a while because I had that kind of like injury um scar tissue where I was like, Oh, if I do anything, it's gonna come right back again, and I'm not gonna be able to move my head.
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:51.360
Yes.
01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:55.679
And the neck, you know, it's a very vulnerable part of the body, right?
01:01:55.840 --> 01:02:03.360
Like it's you have a lot of vital things going through your neck, like your carotid arteries that that you know feeds your brain like oxygen, right?
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:11.039
And um, you know, I've treated a few, you know, higher profile people over the years, even like before I started my practice.
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:13.280
Um, Anna Myodorma was one of them.
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:14.320
Shout out to Anna.
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:15.599
Love you.
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:16.800
Absolute savage.
01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:18.320
Absolute savage.
01:02:18.559 --> 01:02:22.960
Um now she I give her all of the credit for recovering.
01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:24.159
She did all of the work.
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:30.880
You know, she will tell me that I, you know, helped her career, whatever, but you know, she she did it all.
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.400
But it it's a very emotional thing to have your neck injured.
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:34.719
Yeah.
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:41.840
And it that is part of the job as a physical therapist sometimes is to, you know, give people hope and be like, you know, like it's gonna be okay.
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.079
You know, like you can step off the curb.
01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:52.000
But it's understandable that people have these fear, these fears of, you know, getting reinjured and getting a setback.
01:02:52.400 --> 01:03:00.239
Yeah, I've been thankful that I've like of I've trained for 17 years and my knees are still good, you know.
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:06.559
Um but I have uh done something to every other part of my body possible, you know.
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:20.239
So um we I went to this physical therapist for my neck and ended up doing more shoulder stability and hip work, and that's ultimately what's gotten my neck better.
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.679
Um, because we can't really work on the neck in isolation in that.
01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:31.679
So um I really I really understand where you're coming from on the stability thing because that's a lot of like what he's having me try to work on.
01:03:32.079 --> 01:03:53.199
Um and I'm I'm getting like at least closer to the source of the problem of like understanding what that instability really feels like, especially like one side to another, or like my right shoulder's relatively stable, especially compared to the left, and now I'm like doing exactly what we described earlier of like hold the core tight and then move the arm versus like I can move my arm all over the place.
01:03:53.360 --> 01:04:00.000
I'm hypermobile, but if I actually engage my core right, it's like a much more limited range of motion that actually has like some real strength behind it.
01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:09.599
Uh going back even further, what you see you said Pilates weightlifting 2008, finishing uh physical therapy school 10 years later.
01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:20.000
I also I studied uh exercise science at the University of Houston, and then I did observation hours was a with a physical therapist, like in trying to prepare to go to PT school.
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:28.639
I realized, like kind of I guess in the clinical setting, that that wasn't for me on what I imagine you experienced once you were actually in the clinical setting.
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:32.800
But what made you want to start and finish PT school?
01:04:34.480 --> 01:04:39.679
Well, it was from being a poor dancer, really.
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:42.880
That would probably be the answer.
01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:47.519
Uh yeah, I from the from when I was very little, I wanted to be a dancer.
01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:50.639
You know, I had that that dream, ballerina dream.
01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:57.599
And then once I got to, you know, do more dancing and and dancing in college, I really loved modern dance.
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:03.280
And so after I graduated from UT, I went to I moved to New York City to dance.
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:16.079
And you know, I I became more of a choreographer there as well as a as a dancer, and that's where I started to learn Pilates was I was I was trained in New York City with people that trained directly with Joseph Pilates actually.
01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:16.639
Oh, cool.
01:05:16.800 --> 01:05:17.920
Yeah, it was pretty cool.
01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:22.079
So, you know, you you had that in New York, you don't have that in Austin, right?
01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:24.880
So got John Danaher.
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:26.800
You got John Danaher.
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:28.480
We do have John Danaher now.
01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:29.840
We we switched.
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:30.480
Yeah.
01:05:32.239 --> 01:05:34.880
Right, but that's like doing jujitsu with Helio Gracie, right?
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.159
Or like doing jujitsu with one of the guys that trained directly with him.
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:39.119
Right.
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:46.960
So, you know, I was I was living and working in New York City, you know, teaching Pilates, and I was just like, it was a grind.
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:48.159
It's a huge grind.
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:54.079
I mean, I was like a zombie, and I've just living on caffeine, you know, I got like that New York City skinny.
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:56.239
You know what I'm saying?
01:05:56.480 --> 01:05:59.760
Um, just like walking everywhere, and I I I got kind of tired of it.
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:06.320
You know, and I thought, well, you know, physical therapy is something that I could do for a very long time.
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:08.800
I'm I'm I was more interested in movement.
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:18.400
So I I thought about going back to school and being a medical doctor, but that was just too much schooling and like too much money and too much debt.
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:24.400
And I didn't want to, I didn't want to treat sick people or have to like make life, you know, life or death decisions.
01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:28.880
So um I did my prereqs up in Boston.
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.440
I had moved from New York to Boston by that time.
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:36.800
And uh yeah, and then I moved back to Austin because I I by that time I was ready to be back home.
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:43.840
I had been gone for nine years and was just like, you know what, I'm tired of the cold weather and I want to be back in Austin.
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:48.960
So and this was so I moved back in 20 gosh, 2014.
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:54.960
And so that I was gone from 05 to 14, which is when Austin really started like blowing up.
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:58.800
Like oh eight was like really the I think when like the tech moved here.
01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:00.559
When did you go Google move here?
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:07.039
But anyway, yeah, I don't know, because like Dell campus is not far from here, and from when I was a kid, I grew up in the city.
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:08.559
Dell's Dell's been here for a long time.
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:09.119
Yeah.
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.440
So anyway, so when I moved back, it was just a totally different town.
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:35.920
And uh, you know, it's interesting that you bring up, you know, finishing phys uh physical therapy and and all of that, because yeah, it is a grind working in a clinic as a physical therapist, and you don't feel at least I I didn't feel like I had uh all of the time and the tools to help people the way that I wanted to, and that which is why I had to start my own practice, right?
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:42.159
Just to like but also to make the money that I wanted to make because I was I was capped out at that at that point.
01:07:42.719 --> 01:07:48.960
So it's you know, it's definitely been uh a process, a journey.
01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:58.159
And I'm even thinking about potentially not keeping my license as a physical therapist in the state of Texas because it's kind of limiting.
01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:00.639
Like I can only treat people in Texas, right?
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:04.639
Like I can't trip treat people in other countries or other parts of the state.
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:07.519
I have to get license in that state, right?
01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:10.719
So it's it's a blessing and a curse, I think, too.
01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:15.280
Like it's it's both, it's it's a little bit, I'm kind of I'm deciding that still, you know.
01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:20.960
I have a couple years, I just I just renewed my license this past year, but it can be a bit of a liability.
01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:32.159
Yeah, I wanted to talk about that because back when I was doing observation hours at a physical therapist, um, this would have been probably 2017, somewhere in that timeline.
01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:44.319
And I didn't know that last year in September they had changed it, where you can now finally go to a physical therapist without like whatever the doctor, like a prescription, I guess, from one doctor to a physical therapist.
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.399
So who also was also a doctor, yeah.
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:47.760
Yeah, right, right.
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:54.800
So maybe for your context, like in Texas up until last September, I couldn't just go to a physical therapist.
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:56.880
I had to go to Dr.
01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:00.159
Juice, and then you could send me to her.
01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:02.319
So then you get a whole visit out of it.
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:07.119
I've always assumed that was kind of like the lobbying side of it, and maybe even some imaging.
01:09:07.359 --> 01:09:09.119
Yeah, some money for her, some imaging.
01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:09.680
Yeah.
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:20.000
And I was like, man, this is this is insane because like I just saw a lot of really awkward in patient interactions.
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:27.039
Like I saw a drug addict go to physical therapy because their doctor had finally said, like, I'm not gonna write you another script until you go to physical therapy.
01:09:27.199 --> 01:09:32.880
And then this woman's at physical therapy telling the PT, hey, I'm just here so I can get my drugs.
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:34.800
I'm not gonna do anything you tell me to do.
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:37.920
And I was like, man, this whole system is really messed up.
01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:46.960
And then, you know, people like me, I couldn't just like the guy I was observing with, I couldn't just like go be a patient of his on my own.
01:09:47.119 --> 01:09:52.880
And I thought that was like ridiculous because I already had like plenty of stuff for him to work on, but I didn't like have that other doctor referral.
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:56.399
So I've noticed that that changed.
01:09:57.199 --> 01:09:59.439
Well, it changed to from 10 days to 30 days, I think.
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:02.720
Yeah, so that's what I was gonna say, where it's like it's a maximum of 30 days.
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:09.840
Now, is that any visits within 30 days or like 30, like just time stamped from the first of the month to the 30th?
01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:11.920
It's 30 business days.
01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:12.319
Yeah.
01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:23.600
And then it also seems like in say if I have insurance and now I can go see you as a physical therapist in Texas, my insurance probably won't even cover it in that setting, right?
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:25.760
Like without the referral from another doctor.
01:10:26.399 --> 01:10:29.199
So for a cash-based practice, you mean, or for any practice?
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:32.159
I guess for a practice that does take insurance.
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:42.640
I don't so insurance is gonna be different for any, like that, that's there's no umbrella rule for what doesn't does insurance cover PT or not.
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:44.000
That's gonna depend on their plan.
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:44.640
Right.
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:56.720
But yeah, no, you're you're absolutely right that it's because the the medical association kind of like rules the the govern the governing bodies here in in in Texas.
01:10:56.960 --> 01:11:06.159
And so the the medical doctors would lose out on a lot of money, a lot of money, if people could just come to a PT directly.
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:06.640
Yeah.
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:08.880
And that's why the law is the way that it is.
01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:14.319
But but this is not, I mean, it used to be that you had to have a referral no matter what, right?
01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:17.039
And now we finally got the 30, the 30-day thing.
01:11:17.199 --> 01:11:22.079
Before it was the 10-day um time frame where you could see a PT without a referral.
01:11:22.159 --> 01:11:23.920
So you can come in and see me, do it.
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:29.199
I could do an initial evaluation and do like a few sessions over the course of 10 business days, right?
01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:32.000
And that's not like it's not gonna get you much.
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:32.640
No, right?
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:34.880
Then you still have to go get a doctor's referral.
01:11:35.119 --> 01:11:42.239
But the 30-day thing is is is better, but not very many people will get better within that time frame.
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:46.000
They'll still most of the time need to go see a doctor to get a referral.
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:51.199
Well, and like for the example of the guy I'm seeing, he doesn't do any insurance and it's just like cash-based.
01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:52.640
Yes, I'm cash-based as well.
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:53.199
Yeah, yeah.
01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:55.119
And it seems for me, that was a better option.
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:58.239
Where it's like, all right, I'll just pay you for the time I come to you.
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:08.720
Um do you think like it does it seem like as a PT, if you want like any kind of freedom that you kind of have to go into that cash model?
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:10.960
Probably, I think so.
01:12:11.279 --> 01:12:12.399
I mean, that's and that's what I've done.
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:23.279
And I will say too, I think it's also better for the client, it's better for the patient because yes, you're having to pay the money up front, but you're getting so much more out of your experience.
01:12:23.600 --> 01:12:33.119
And you're because you're just paying a a higher premium, then you're you're more likely to actually do the exercises that we're we're telling you to do.
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:36.880
You know, like you're more invested in it and you're gonna get a lot more out of it.
01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:38.399
Yeah, you're gonna get better faster.
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:44.399
That that has been my experience across the board from working in a clinic versus with my with my clients now.
01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:47.039
The accounts get bit they get better so much faster.
01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:47.920
It's insane.
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:56.239
Yeah, and you had mentioned it earlier of like the ratio of like, you know, a coach or whatever setting to like the patient or athlete.
01:12:56.399 --> 01:13:00.000
And like, yeah, with mine, I get a guy's undivided attention.
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.800
He's either cueing me or taking video to show me.
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:13.920
And like I could not get hurt in those sessions because he is just like super watchable over it, and it definitely seems like that's that's the way to be um now.
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:18.399
You still have to you still have to get a referral for somebody, whether they're cash-based or not.
01:13:18.720 --> 01:13:25.439
Well, I guess in his case, then maybe he's not even using the physical therapy license anymore, and then it's just like whatever.
01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:26.479
Yeah, okay.
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:31.680
I have a personal kind of rant, but I have more I have more physical therapy questions for you.
01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:32.640
Let's all do it.
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.319
I'm all about personal rants and whatever.
01:13:34.800 --> 01:13:36.880
So I I don't know.
01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:47.600
I'm curious if you care about this at all because I keep using PT, and when I use PT, I'm referring referring to a physical therapist, not a personal trainer.
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:48.640
Ah, yeah.
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:59.600
As a physical therapist, do you ever feel like personal trainers are trying to market themselves as like an actual DPT by just like blurring the lines on PT?
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:01.920
I don't think so.
01:14:02.079 --> 01:14:02.399
Okay.
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:03.359
I really don't.
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:05.439
It's become like doesn't bother me.
01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:10.960
That's good to hear, and I should calm down, but I'm always like Are you is that a key thing for you?
01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:15.039
Yeah, like not keated, I guess, but I just feel like there is such a massive.
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:17.600
I feel like physical therapists are underrespected.
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:23.920
Maybe that's the the better way to start my position because like I kind of like worked with one and I I really respected him.
01:14:24.079 --> 01:14:24.479
Yeah.
01:14:24.720 --> 01:14:34.560
And like some personal trainers will tell you to do the similar stuff as a physical therapist, and they can help you with pain sometimes.
01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:51.600
Um, but I think that sometimes the personal trainers blur the lines way too much and don't stay in maybe their lane and like putting the respect and just to the general knowledge that like a DPT is gonna have over like I could go get NASA certified on this laptop, like in the time of this podcast to be a personal trainer.
01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:55.840
I I don't know for sure, but I've done some NASA stuff before, it's not very hard.
01:14:56.560 --> 01:15:03.920
Whereas like I don't know exactly what you went through for physical therapy school, but it's like it's a postgraduate thing, right?
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:09.840
You I don't know how many hours of episode pretty much went to hell and back to school.
01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:11.920
Um multiple times at this point.
01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:15.520
But um no, but uh no, I I hear what you're saying.
01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:24.960
It it does I think there's there's certain uh companies, shall we say, that do kind of blur the lines a little bit that are out there.
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:44.079
Um and I I do think that in some ways I don't like calling myself a physical therapist sometimes because I think there can be a negative connotation with that because there could be, I think because of how insurance um now is like not, it's it's really an insurance problem, right?
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:54.720
Because insurance is not reimbursing properly for physical therapy, then physical therapy clinics have now, in order for them to stay afloat, they have to pack in all the all the clients, you know.
01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:59.760
So then, you know, physical therapists are having to see 20 or 30 people a day, which is insane.
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:08.720
Um, so it's not it's not the physical therapist's fault necessarily, but it's just this, it's the whole system is broken, right?
01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:25.359
And so uh, but you know, there are I think I'm not I'm not too threatened by it or I I don't have a huge problem with it because I also know a lot of personal trainers who are highly educated, and I respect their and I their education as well.
01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:32.720
Yeah, so I think that's why I don't have that, you know, I'm not I'm not I don't have a problem with it, I guess.
01:16:33.039 --> 01:16:35.199
No, that that makes sense.
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:38.000
Um it can get a little blurry out there.
01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:55.600
Some you know, we we talked about like technology, um, and I'm thinking about like this part of the pinky from our phones, but from like a physical therapy perspective, what is happening to our bodies from like all the time on a cell phone, on a screen, or sitting down?
01:16:56.960 --> 01:16:57.439
Yeah.
01:16:57.760 --> 01:16:59.920
To like the musculoskeletal system.
01:17:00.159 --> 01:17:00.720
Yeah.
01:17:01.039 --> 01:17:12.720
Okay, I don't want I don't want to say sitting is bad for you because it's not that sitting is bad for you, it's just that if you don't do something to counteract the sitting, that's when we run into problems, right?
01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:18.880
If you're just sitting all of the time and like not doing very much walking, that's that's that's the problem.
01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:31.680
So, you know, we are all you know, fitness health people, like we we can sit here for you know a long time and that and that's okay because we know that we're gonna exercise either today or yesterday or tomorrow or whatever, right?
01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:33.359
And that that that's good.
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:44.000
But yeah, the the forward head posture is is a problem because it affects your whole body.
01:17:44.159 --> 01:17:50.239
And the forward head posture is what we get when we're looking at a screen, you know, especially sitting at a computer or something like that.
01:17:50.479 --> 01:18:10.239
And that you you develop what's called upper cross syndrome, where your you know, muscles in the front are tighter and weak, and then the muscles in the back, uh like the upper back, for example, um, are lengthened and weak, but then but then the muscles in the neck get shortened as well, and the suboccipital muscles get shortened.
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:28.399
And so that that has you know that that leads to major posture problems and poor posture is it it can really lead to a bunch of different you know syndromes, right?
01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:30.960
It can even affect your organs, right?
01:18:31.119 --> 01:18:39.680
Because if your organs are if they don't have enough space to move and glide and do what they need to do, because your organs move when you move, right?
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:46.880
And being and being sedentary affects also your ability to, you know, like have a bowel movement, right?
01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:52.880
Like that's it's a overall health issue, don't doing too much sitting or being too sedentary.
01:18:53.359 --> 01:19:08.960
So, you know, that's why I like to include my you know the Pilates work because it does treat your whole body and it is very posturally like it's posture forward, you know, where like we're like we're treating your treating your your your posture so that you can breathe better, right?
01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:16.880
When we're in a slotch position, we're not gonna be able to take a full deep breath, and that's gonna affect your diaphragm, which affects her core.
01:19:17.119 --> 01:19:20.880
You know, I could probably go along a long time with this.
01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:25.439
So it yeah, it it has a lot of re uh repercussions.
01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:36.640
I feel like it's gonna be um some kind of common practice to encourage people to like, like you said, kind of undo the the texting neck.
01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:37.920
Right?
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:46.720
Like that's like a yes, and then with undoing things, I feel like everything now is like hack it or streamline it and make it as fast as possible.
01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:52.239
Where I feel like people kind of treat like a lot of health and fitness things that way now as well.
01:19:52.640 --> 01:20:02.720
So I'm like I've always had like a drab vision of like the future of exercise and fitness and stuff because I feel like more people are spending more time on screens, especially kids too.
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:08.640
And then I think there will be a voice of reason like, no, if if you're gonna do that, we gotta go do some exercise.
01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:20.319
But I've had this like very negative view of the future where people will just do the absolute bare minimum to kind of undo all of like the upper cross syndrome and and things like that.
01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:32.159
And I I hope that we can still do things that are like fun fitness activities that can help like solve those problems because everyone's dealing with it.
01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:34.239
I don't know anybody that doesn't have a phone.
01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:37.359
Everybody I know is upper crossed, right?
01:20:37.439 --> 01:20:46.319
So now we're kind of shifting from like some people may have had that, like a typist used to have it or something, and it was less common, and now it's like every person I know has a forward head.
01:20:46.640 --> 01:20:47.039
Yes.
01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:49.039
What why is it called upper crossed?
01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:50.640
Upper cross syndrome.
01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:54.479
Upper cross syndrome because if you look at it from the uh from the side, right?
01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:55.760
It's like across.
01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:57.760
Say if my I was like looking this way.
01:20:58.319 --> 01:20:59.680
I was looking this way, right?
01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:03.359
Across the front is is shortened and then the back is lengthened.
01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:04.880
Okay, gotcha.
01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:06.960
Like if you're looking at a profile view.
01:21:07.119 --> 01:21:07.279
Yeah.
01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:10.239
So it is is it is and lower cross would be for hips.
01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:15.199
So like if or if you have like a pelvic tilt, that would be a a lower cross syndrome.
01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:20.079
What would be the common like behavior that would would cause that or something like that?
01:21:20.399 --> 01:21:22.000
A lower cross syndrome.
01:21:22.319 --> 01:21:25.359
Uh it just it just depends on how your pelvis is tilted.
01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:25.840
Okay.
01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:26.640
Yeah.
01:21:26.960 --> 01:21:35.840
It's so it it's not really a behavior per se, but if you say if you eat like sat a lot or something, then you could have like a lower cross syndrome because your hip flexors are tight.
01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:36.399
Okay.
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:44.319
Which leads me to another syndrome that I I wrote down here because we joked a lot about it, but dead butt syndrome.
01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.319
Oh yes, glutes amnesia.
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:46.720
Yeah.
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:47.359
Dead butt.
01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:48.479
That's a real thing.
01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:49.039
Yeah, bro.
01:21:49.279 --> 01:21:49.840
Glute amnesia.
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:54.720
I was trying to explain this to him, and I guess like you we were just joking about it, but yeah, it's very real.
01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:59.439
I feel like I just came out of dead butt syndrome where I'm still like struggling through.
01:21:59.760 --> 01:22:00.560
You just came out of dead butt?
01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:02.000
Yeah, dead butt.
01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:03.359
It happens.
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:04.239
How old are you?
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:05.119
32.
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:07.039
Okay, yeah, that's about the right time.
01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:08.640
I also know how you do that.
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:12.560
Like again, my point of the style of jujitsu, it's like being a guard player.
01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:15.439
I feel like that's what made it worse.
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:20.800
Was because the way I can get through doing rounds and rounds and rounds of jujitsu and never use my glutes.
01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:21.119
Yeah.
01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:24.880
You know, I'm just like all hip flexors and like Tibbs, you know.
01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:28.399
Tibbs, Tibbs, Tibbs, um, shout out tibs.
01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:37.039
But yeah, I feel like the all of these things, like now I have different prep work and different things I do throughout the week to try to not have a dead butt, right?
01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:43.680
And I feel like the human fitness model is just going to shift into like fixing the uppercrossed and doing the dead butt.
01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:44.720
And that just sounds really boring.
01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:55.119
And that's that's like my concern is like how can we figure out ways to be all the time so that way we don't have to do as much opposite and equal kind of work.
01:22:55.359 --> 01:22:56.159
Yeah, yeah.
01:22:56.319 --> 01:23:02.079
I mean, I I do little like movement um movement bits during during my day.
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:03.840
People call them movement snacks now.
01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:05.039
There's that term out there.
01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:06.319
Like that.
01:23:06.479 --> 01:23:07.039
Movement snacks.
01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:08.960
Sounds like like a buzzfeed article.
01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:10.159
Hell yeah.
01:23:10.319 --> 01:23:11.039
I didn't like using that.
01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:13.439
I'm just calling a break, a movement break.
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:13.680
Okay.
01:23:14.560 --> 01:23:15.439
Break taking a break.
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:22.640
Um, but like I'll do like 30 squats, you know, between clients or something.
01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:32.560
Um no, I if I if I could only do one exercise forever, and that would be like the only one thing I could do, probably be kettlebell swings.
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:33.359
Nice.
01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:39.600
Because it gets your it gets your posterior chain, which is arguably the most important in our day and age.
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:41.600
And it gets your cardio.
01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:42.960
So there's that.
01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:44.640
But I also swings.
01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:49.439
Really heavy ones.
01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:55.920
Um but also uh reverse hypers, I love those too for the posterior chain.
01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:06.880
Oh what about if you had two exercises or movements to just like your entire body until the end of time.
01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:12.960
I would probably um gosh.
01:24:13.680 --> 01:24:16.880
I would probably do pull-ups and hypers.
01:24:17.279 --> 01:24:19.439
Yeah, I I reverse hypers.
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:21.119
Um squats and pull-ups.
01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:23.600
Yeah, squats and pull-ups, though that's good too.
01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:23.920
Yeah.
01:24:24.640 --> 01:24:28.960
Yeah, so it does sound like we just have to do something opposite to what's causing.
01:24:29.439 --> 01:24:30.640
Yeah, work your posterior chain.
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:32.159
Yeah, everything posterior.
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:32.560
Yeah.
01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:34.399
I don't think people are gonna do it.
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:35.439
You don't think so?
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:37.119
I mean, I think people like us will.
01:24:37.359 --> 01:24:38.000
It's so simple.
01:24:38.159 --> 01:24:42.479
But I feel like my my concern is like just like the average person, you know?
01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:46.079
And like so many people are spending tons of time on their phones.
01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:53.199
And I'm curious, like, it would probably take like generations of doing that to see like if there's actual changes to people's bodies over time from it.
01:24:53.359 --> 01:25:06.319
But like I said with the pinky thing, I feel like we're already seeing some level of evolution happen with people where like you could preach all day to do the posterior chain, but I think the people it gets through to are already like probably people like us.
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:14.159
And then like I'm just trying to figure out like what do we need to do to develop like the desk at school to where it doesn't force kids to start having these symptoms.
01:25:14.479 --> 01:25:32.159
Well, well, yeah, because well then schools have to change, and schools are changing a bit a little bit at a time, I think, right now, because there's those there's those like un-schools now, those anti-school schools, uh, where kids are just like are it's like it's like student-led where like kids are like leading the activities and stuff, which I think is cool.
01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:35.279
But I don't know, I'm not here to save everyone.
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:45.680
No, but you at least you at least have the knowledge to say, like, all right, if I'm on my phone eight hours a day and I'm doing this, like what should I do on my breaks to try to like undo a little bit of that?
01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:51.039
Yeah, well, yeah, undo so do like some backbending, do some squats, do some lunges.
01:25:51.439 --> 01:25:56.640
Yeah, and I feel that like the combination of being on my phone and doing jujitsu is like just doubly bad for me.
01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:00.880
I would like to talk about also, but people doing exercises poorly.
01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:04.560
I've had this, I've had this YouTube channel idea.
01:26:05.199 --> 01:26:05.520
Okay.
01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:06.640
Let's do it.
01:26:06.880 --> 01:26:09.119
Where it's called it's called You're Doing It Wrong.
01:26:09.359 --> 01:26:09.760
Love it.
01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:10.239
Okay.
01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:11.439
And it's all about let's do it.
01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:12.720
You're doing it wrong with Shelly Hart.
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:13.439
Yeah, exactly.
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:14.640
You're doing it wrong.
01:26:15.680 --> 01:26:29.760
Um I had I I got that name from an actually a polite teacher, his name was Michael Johnson back in New York City, and he'd talk like this, like like this, and he'd be like, Hey, uh, green shirt, you're doing it wrong.
01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:31.920
But he wouldn't actually correct the guy.
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:35.039
He'd just be nice, you're doing it wrong.
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:36.319
And scene.
01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:42.720
Um, but um like when guys do like those fast put like but short push-ups.
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:43.359
Hell yeah.
01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:44.560
What's that about?
01:26:44.800 --> 01:26:45.920
What's that about?
01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:48.960
Big number means big muscle.
01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:51.199
But you're not even doing an actual push-up.
01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:52.960
You know what I'm saying?
01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:54.960
I I'm I'm with you.
01:26:55.119 --> 01:26:56.560
Like what I love form.
01:26:56.800 --> 01:26:57.840
What's the yeah?
01:26:58.000 --> 01:26:59.600
Form is where it's at.
01:26:59.760 --> 01:27:00.560
Form is where it's at.
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:27.760
He he recently joined some of like these group workouts that uh we do together, but we've I've been doing with a little crew, and he actually has form, and everybody else is like cheating the push-ups, like short, shallow range push-ups, and he's over here doing like strict, yeah, perfect form and suffering the consequences from doing it right too, because his heart rate was higher than everybody else's, and it's like I can see that you are pushing yourself harder because you are doing it right.
01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:28.640
Exactly.
01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:36.159
I could answer your question of what you're doing, but I don't think my answer is talking about the guys that you're thinking of doing it.
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:41.279
Because the only thing I was thinking of is like in Muay Thai training, you do a lot of like the really shallow push ups.
01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:46.239
But I would argue that in that it like is actually helping develop like the guard a little bit.
01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:47.760
Yeah, for speed, I get that.
01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:59.760
Whereas just in general, yeah, it's like I I've been working on that specific thing on push ups of like lengthening it, getting as much through, and from cueing from my physical therapist of like learning how to do.
01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:04.399
Something I've been doing forever, like a push-up, but engaging basically like my core the right way.
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:05.600
Yeah, there's a lot of things.
01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:07.359
Yeah.
01:28:07.520 --> 01:28:08.159
There's so much.
01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:10.720
And like you talked about being like a into technique.
01:28:11.039 --> 01:28:12.720
Like it's crazy how much you can continue.
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:20.239
Like I'm sure with Pilates you've done like the routines or the sequences, but like you can still learn and develop a lot even after years and years of practice.
01:28:20.479 --> 01:28:21.279
It's so true.
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:22.880
I love this series.
01:28:23.119 --> 01:28:23.439
Yes.
01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:31.680
Yeah, is it is it like Vikram yoga in the sense that there's like a consistent like process for doing a Pilates class?
01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:32.960
Like a like like an order?
01:28:33.199 --> 01:28:33.359
Yeah.
01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:34.479
Yeah, yeah.
01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:35.359
There is an order.
01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:35.680
Okay.
01:28:35.840 --> 01:28:43.840
And there's a you know, there's generally a like a beginner, intermediate, advanced, and super advanced routine that you do.
01:28:44.079 --> 01:28:52.319
But in the in a general class, like it there's probably, you know, like you would like pick and choose which which ones to do for somebody.
01:28:52.399 --> 01:29:03.359
Like if I'm teaching somebody as an individual, I will kind of stay to that, stay true to the order, but I might skip some exercises if they're not appropriate for that person, you know.
01:29:04.079 --> 01:29:04.479
Yeah.
01:29:04.960 --> 01:29:05.439
That's cool.
01:29:05.520 --> 01:29:07.439
I gotta, I gotta give this stuff a try.
01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:09.039
Um you would love it.
01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.640
What what is wrong with physical therapy?
01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:14.159
We kind of talked about that already.
01:29:14.319 --> 01:29:14.479
Yeah.
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:14.880
Yeah.
01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:17.920
About just how the system's broken.
01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:18.479
Yeah.
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:25.920
And you know, physical therapists are not given the tools and the time to be able to treat clients properly.
01:29:26.319 --> 01:29:38.479
And it it's kind of like it's like I worked at a a clinic, uh, a few different clinics, but I've worked at this one specific clinic for three years, and they would have like repeat clients come in.
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:42.880
Now these are like older folks, like this is like a Medicare heavy clinic, right?
01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:43.359
Yeah.
01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:52.880
And it was just, you know, I could see that like there was no real progress actually being made, but it was only because of how the format was.
01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:56.000
You know, there just wasn't enough time per patient.
01:29:56.560 --> 01:30:09.680
Yeah, I think about it, like I I couldn't say for physical therapy, but I'm thinking in like terms of prescriptions within like a regular doctor with insurance, where like maybe I have bad insurance, I go to the doctor, he's like, Hey, you need this medicine.
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:10.880
And I'm like, Cool, thank you.
01:30:11.039 --> 01:30:19.279
Go to the pharmacy, and they're like, sorry, your insurance won't cover the medicine your doctor thinks you need, but will cover something that's like maybe kind of similar or close.
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:30.000
And like, do you does that kind of same thing happen with physical therapists where like a physical therapist might tell the insurance, like, hey, this guy needs to come twice a week, but they're not gonna pay for it?
01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:31.920
Yeah, it can happen.
01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:40.399
Now, usually the therapist will then appeal that whole process, you know, where we'll fight for for that patient to be able to come back.
01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:47.760
But often sometimes it's you know, sometimes it's also Medicare clients just using it as a social club, you know.
01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:57.199
Like honestly, honestly, like, you know, I I had a a client one time who he was also seeing a personal trainer and doing physical therapy.
01:30:57.359 --> 01:31:05.439
And you know, we got to the point in his physical therapy where it was now mostly doing exercises and not just manual work or anything like that.
01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:09.600
And he would say, Oh yeah, me and my personal trainer do this all the time.
01:31:09.920 --> 01:31:22.000
And then, you know, his script was up from from the from the insurance, and I was like, Well, okay, well, it looks like you're discharged now because you're able to do all these things, you've met all your goals, and you're already doing all of this with personal training.
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:24.720
And he had a conniption fit.
01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:27.680
Yes, he wasn't one of he wasn't one of my regular people.
01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:32.720
He I I saw him like a few times, and yeah, he was not happy to hear that.
01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:34.960
I was just like, okay.
01:31:36.079 --> 01:31:39.199
Um that's crazy.
01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:46.479
And there's and he can't like I know he he just he just kept wanting to he wanted to keep coming because that was like his social hour.
01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:46.960
Yeah.
01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:56.399
Well, and that was part of when I did observation hours, kind of related to that, was what made me be like, oh, I don't I don't know if this is actually what I want to spend the rest of my life doing.
01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:07.199
Because I always like sports and I was like an athlete at the time, and I was around a bunch of really cool athletes, and I was in Houston, where there's like the Houston Rockets and the Texans, like there's it's a big sports city.
01:32:07.279 --> 01:32:16.560
So in my mind, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna go become a physical therapist, and I'm gonna be working on like the starting lineup of the Texans every day, you know?
01:32:16.640 --> 01:32:18.880
Like and just and that was like the kind of the hope, right?
01:32:18.960 --> 01:32:20.399
Like I wanted to work with high-level athletes.
01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:28.079
Yes, and I go to this guy's office, and it was just like people over the age of 65, knees and lower back, knees and lower back, knees and lower back.
01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:33.119
And the exercises were the exact same, pretty much, for whether it was a knee or a lower back.
01:32:33.840 --> 01:32:34.560
That's weird.
01:32:34.800 --> 01:32:38.079
I mean, there were there was there was like a lot of similarities, right?
01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:40.479
It's getting posterior chain stuff, right?
01:32:40.800 --> 01:32:45.600
And so I'm like, okay, I'm seeing the same, a lot of the repeating the same thing every day.
01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:48.800
And I was like, man, I just I couldn't I couldn't do that.
01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:52.079
Yeah, it's just too too monotonous for me.
01:32:52.399 --> 01:32:52.720
Yeah.
01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:57.199
Um that's that's kind of how it was as well at this at this clinic, a little bit.
01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:00.079
So it sounds like there's not much wrong with physical therapy.
01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:05.439
There's something wrong with the insurance and just like that whole world of medical insurance.
01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:06.319
Totally.
01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:16.800
Now I will say, kind of going back to like what kept me in physical therapy, you know, because going into to school, PT school, I wanted to be a sports therapist too, right?
01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:23.680
But then the more I learned, the more I was interested in uh the neuro aspect of it, but but specifically outpatient neuro.
01:33:23.920 --> 01:33:29.279
So like working with stroke patients or MS or Parkinson's in particular.
01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:30.079
Yeah.
01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:42.960
And so that that kept me going in the career, like kept me going, you know, as a as a physical therapist because you got to see so many cool improvements working with the the neuro crowd.
01:33:43.359 --> 01:33:50.399
And it's just, you know, it's it's it's more, I think, fulfilling as a therapist when it's something like that.
01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:51.039
Do you know?
01:33:51.359 --> 01:33:52.079
That makes sense.
01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:52.479
Yeah.
01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:53.039
Yeah.
01:33:53.119 --> 01:34:00.000
We had uh one of our boxing coaches on, and he was saying that at his old gym in Santa Barbara, California, that they did Parkinson's classes.
01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:00.239
Okay.
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:05.760
And how helpful like he could even see the difference between the people that would come in and do boxing for Parkinson's classes.
01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:07.439
Yeah, boxing for Parkinson's really like a huge thing.
01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:13.840
The same that's only that's actually my like only experience with boxing.
01:34:13.920 --> 01:34:18.800
Um, when I lived in Georgia, I did volunteer work and I did I led like boxing for Parkinson's patients.
01:34:19.039 --> 01:34:19.920
Oh my gosh, that's awesome.
01:34:20.159 --> 01:34:22.479
So that's like how I know the numbers.
01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:25.439
Oh, like the one yeah, literally that's like that's it.
01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:31.199
Yeah, I wanna I want to I wanna teach a uh jujitsu class for neuro clients, though.
01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:36.319
Like I have a friend who has cerebral palsy and I didn't want her to get into it and she would she would love it.
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:37.279
Yeah, that's cool.
01:34:37.359 --> 01:34:39.199
Yeah, and like my MS patients, I don't know.
01:34:39.520 --> 01:34:44.960
That's been something like you know, why I stick with teaching jujitsu is like the fulfillment part, right?
01:34:45.119 --> 01:35:00.560
And for the same reasons I've worked with like I don't know how many people compared to you, and you probably end up having more patients, but like I've worked with people with a missing limb, and it's like all right, how do we do jujitsu occupational therapy for somebody that can't use that arm?
01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:08.000
Yeah, you know, which creates like really interesting answers because there's there's times that I'm like, nah, yeah, man, you can't do this move.
01:35:08.079 --> 01:35:14.000
I'm sorry, and then I'm like, wait, no, you can, you can just only do it on one side of the body, you know, which is I think that's nitty.
01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:16.319
Nasty punch choke, bro, with a dub.
01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:17.600
That's what I'm fish.
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:21.119
Yeah, get it right into it.
01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:23.760
Oh yeah, that would be nasty.
01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:29.119
Um, all right, now we can get into the the real nitty-gritty.
01:35:29.439 --> 01:35:31.359
Um yeah, what's it?
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:42.239
Yeah, well, we we we had talked about we had talked about biofields and um I don't know if we had talked about the quantum biology, but you've piqued my interest.
01:35:42.880 --> 01:35:47.840
Um do you wanna do you have anything off the off the dome about it?
01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:52.800
Well, not not a ton about I'm I'm still learning about it myself.
01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:53.600
Yeah.
01:35:53.840 --> 01:36:03.520
So, but it but it explains things like what you're talking about when how you sense when somebody's at your home before they knock on the door, you know.
01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:08.319
Just imagine him on the couch, he's like Wiko's here.
01:36:10.560 --> 01:36:11.520
You felt your presence.
01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:15.359
Like Peter Parker, it's like the back of my head that stands as.
01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:16.560
Yes.
01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:19.279
My bald besties.
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:21.199
Your spidey sense.
01:36:21.439 --> 01:36:38.960
Um, no, but it's it talks about using quantum physics, you know, the terms like um entanglement and tunneling is a big one, and coherence when when trying to describe physiological mechanisms.
01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:46.560
I can't speak to anything too specifically, but just the idea like I thought that we knew how photosynthesis works.
01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:47.600
We don't.
01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:53.600
Yeah, that was my entire experience in like the science department, is we just don't know how anything really works.
01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:54.239
Yeah.
01:36:54.399 --> 01:36:54.720
Yeah.
01:36:54.880 --> 01:36:56.800
Or at least in like biology.
01:36:57.600 --> 01:36:59.199
A lot of unanswered questions for sure.
01:36:59.439 --> 01:37:03.920
And that's how the quantum biology tries to bridge the gap there in the knowledge.
01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:13.039
But I don't, I don't, I can't speak to anything too specific about it, but I just know that that's how a lot of systems in our body like operate.
01:37:13.439 --> 01:37:25.359
Yeah, so there was like these three examples that I saw that people use for the quantum biology, and one being like photosynthesis, and then the other one being like enzyme catalysis, which is I feel like a lot more to explain.
01:37:25.680 --> 01:37:29.760
But then the third one that keeps coming up is the like bird navigation.
01:37:30.319 --> 01:37:31.840
Ooh, okay.
01:37:32.399 --> 01:37:41.119
So bird navigation is widely believed to involve quantum biology specifically through a mechanism that allows birds to see Earth's magnetic field lines.
01:37:41.520 --> 01:37:47.119
But either way, migratory birds have some sense of direction, right?
01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:47.520
Uh-huh.
01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:54.479
And that's definitely there's probably not a cut and clear answer from like the scientific community as to how and why.
01:37:54.640 --> 01:37:59.680
So I guess like quantum biology is kind of like a word that you could use to cover these mysteries that we have.
01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:01.520
Quantum biology, that's the answer.
01:38:01.920 --> 01:38:02.720
Quantum biology.
01:38:03.359 --> 01:38:05.039
Don't need to look into it anymore.
01:38:05.760 --> 01:38:06.880
It's just a big drug.
01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:08.720
It's like just a big shrug, yeah, exactly.
01:38:09.039 --> 01:38:15.840
Quantum biology, but I mean, my experience being a student had moments like that where it's like, hey, how exactly does this work?
01:38:16.239 --> 01:38:17.920
I mean, that's how prescription growth is.
01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:19.359
But it had with biology too.
01:38:19.439 --> 01:38:22.560
I was like, it's just like labeling a bunch of things.
01:38:22.720 --> 01:38:25.119
Like it doesn't actually explain how it works.
01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:27.199
Yeah, the anatomy side makes a lot of sense.
01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:27.840
It does.
01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:28.159
Right?
01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:31.359
Like putting SEM is good.
01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:32.720
Yeah, because we got that.
01:38:32.960 --> 01:38:41.920
That I actually found like probably the most helpful part of me studying anatomy and physiology was just having anatomy for doing jujitsu.
01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:49.680
Because like I wonder what it's like for you being in the jujitsu environment, knowing like all of the anatomy.
01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:54.880
But I think it's like not cringy if it's if you're using like a common term, like a leg, that's fine.
01:38:55.039 --> 01:39:02.960
But when people try to use like technical terms like incorrectly, I'm like, man, you don't even know like what you're talking about.
01:39:03.039 --> 01:39:03.760
It's called a leg.
01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:05.119
It's fine, you know?
01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:08.319
Like the amount of times I've heard fibia.
01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:10.319
Oh, that's not even a thing.
01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:11.039
Exactly.
01:39:11.119 --> 01:39:12.880
Or what would be the other way to say it?
01:39:13.119 --> 01:39:13.600
Tibula.
01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:14.399
Tibula.
01:39:14.640 --> 01:39:14.800
Yeah.
01:39:15.119 --> 01:39:16.159
My tibula's out.
01:39:16.479 --> 01:39:18.960
It's kind of like blinker fluid, you know what I mean?
01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:19.920
Yeah.
01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:26.399
Um, but I I certainly think that uh we have a very long way to go.
01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:29.600
I'm actually excited on like the AI side.
01:39:29.760 --> 01:39:42.000
Have you heard people making these pushes where like instead of training them on like languages, but try to like train them on like physics and chemistry to see what they can output compared to just like language models, which made me exciting.
01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:45.439
Why wouldn't they do that?
01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:47.199
Like what that's only now happening?
01:39:47.279 --> 01:39:50.479
Like that should be should that that should be like the whole purpose of AI.
01:39:50.880 --> 01:39:52.880
I don't understand any of it.
01:39:53.039 --> 01:39:59.760
I just know that AI is uh it's it's like why our economy is still propped up right now.
01:39:59.840 --> 01:40:03.279
So for that, it's like okay, that's the the kind of the world we're living in now.
01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:14.479
Is that it's it's got to it's gonna stick around, it's gonna last because it's like the only thing holding it together, especially now that we're in like another world war kind of situation.
01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:16.000
Yeah, yeah.
01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:17.920
Are we done are we are we calling it a world war yet?
01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:19.920
I don't think anyone really is.
01:40:20.159 --> 01:40:28.479
They keep like kicking the can down the road beams where it's like, no, what's happened so far isn't it, but if this next escalation happens, then it will be.
01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:31.199
And I'm like, all right, maybe just more time will tell.
01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:33.760
My take was last summer that it started, right?
01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:37.439
They had a 12-day war, and I'm like, come on, this is not over in 12 days.
01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:38.239
Yeah, no.
01:40:38.960 --> 01:40:45.600
But um, I just have like a lot of concern being in like the health and fitness spaces, right?
01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:50.239
Like Pilates, physical therapy, jujitsu, anything that's like health and fitness related.
01:40:50.479 --> 01:41:04.399
Um, because of what my original like bigger problem with it was obesity, where I was like super concerned seeing especially Americans were like probably the fattest country, and for a while that was just going up.
01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:32.800
It seems that we've kind of like passed the peak of the bell curve, which I think could be related to multiple factors, but I think at least a part of that is like the uh GLP1s and different injections people are taking, which again initially I was like, Oh, I'm not a fan of that, but it's helping a lot of people lose a lot of weight, which was like one of my biggest concerns kind of from the beginning of me getting like actually a career in the health and fitness kind of world.
01:41:33.680 --> 01:41:48.000
And now I think of it more of like the kind of neurological side, just on like dead butt syndrome, upper cross, those kind of things, where it's just like the simple muscle neuron connection not working properly.
01:41:48.159 --> 01:41:48.399
Right.
01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:51.680
Like at least now we're not I'm not as concerned about obesity.
01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:56.159
I mean, I still think it's like a huge issue, and there's a lot of people like essentially killing themselves with it.
01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:56.560
Yeah.
01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:06.960
Um, but if that's being handled, then like making sure you're, you know, I don't even know what like metabolically healthy, but like neurologically healthy, you know.
01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:10.720
I think well, metabolically and neurologically, they're they're this one and the same.
01:42:10.960 --> 01:42:14.880
So like our mitochondria is the the most important part of our cell argument.
01:42:15.199 --> 01:42:16.239
Shout out mitochondria.
01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:27.600
Shout out mitochondria, powerhouse of the and but it does so much more.
01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:29.119
It does a ton of stuff.
01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:33.439
And um they've even, I mean, going back to like mental health issues, right?
01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:43.119
Like they there's books about how mitochondria, like that that's at the root level of mental health issue, is it's a it's a mitochondria um metabolism problem.
01:42:43.920 --> 01:42:50.079
And that comes partially from what we eat, but also from like the light that we expose ourselves to as well.
01:42:50.319 --> 01:43:08.640
Um, you know, our the you know, the infrared light that we get from the sun, that's important for our health um and well-being because it goes straight to the mitochondria, which helps to build ATP, which helps to charge the water in our body, which helps with you know inflammation, decreasing our inflammation.
01:43:09.439 --> 01:43:14.800
Um but yeah, the diet, so diet is huge, right?
01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:16.800
When it comes to uh weight loss.
01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:22.239
It's like I think they say it's like 85% of weight loss is from the food you eat.
01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:22.720
Yeah.
01:43:22.960 --> 01:43:32.720
So people, you know, will come to me, even like if I, you know, was work at a clinic and had like obese people coming to me as well, like, you know, they would be like, oh well, I can't work out because I'm because my knees are injured.
01:43:32.800 --> 01:43:39.279
I'm like, well, actually, you know, I educate them on their diet and then they they didn't like me after that.
01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:40.960
They didn't want to see me.
01:43:41.199 --> 01:43:45.279
But you know, I've actually I've actually put around my diet quite a bit.
01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:48.239
Like I've I was carnivore for three years.
01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:49.119
Oh wow.
01:43:49.279 --> 01:44:08.319
And go going back to the the the GLP ones, I think um Paul Saladin Paul Saladino had uh he highlighted a research article or two about this that um the carnivore diet and the GLP one, that's the like the the the like the metabolic pathway is the same.
01:44:08.640 --> 01:44:16.159
So like you do you don't have to take GLP one, you can just go carnivore and get similar results with weight loss.
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:19.760
Makes sense to me from like all of like the side effects and stuff.
01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:28.880
Yeah, like they like satiety or right, you're getting like the same effect in both, whether you're just eating meat or or taking the injection.
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:37.039
I used to be at like maybe at like the first glance, I was extremely skeptical about uh like GLP ones.
01:44:37.680 --> 01:44:41.920
But over time I've realized that there's a lot of people, like you've said, you've you've worked with them.
01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:45.520
There's like obese people that they're just they just cannot get the weight off.
01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:47.039
They've tried different things.
01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:50.399
And like if it's working, I'm all here for it.
01:44:51.039 --> 01:44:53.199
Especially for that like population.
01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:57.920
I think like already thin people taking it is pretty concerning.
01:44:58.079 --> 01:44:59.840
But I don't know how to why would they take it?
01:45:00.159 --> 01:45:03.520
Well, I mean, you know, kind of like stay lean kind of ideas, I guess.
01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:25.680
I I've known quite a few people that are on it that I'm like, I don't know why you would risk the possible like side effects from it for what side effects benefit from well like when you lose the weight because it's kind of like almost like a carnivore state, like you're not eating that much, and depending on what activity or level that you're doing, like not the weight, it's not all just like fat being burned off.
01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:32.239
It's not just like uh turning every every you know ounce that you lose was pure fat that's gone from your body.
01:45:32.319 --> 01:45:35.920
So you can like lower your bone density and muscle mass.
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:40.960
Yeah, and that's you can maintain a bond too, but it can't affect that.
01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:44.079
Like imagine me on a GLP one, dude.
01:45:44.399 --> 01:45:45.520
I would wither away.
01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:46.720
Exactly.
01:45:46.880 --> 01:45:47.520
It would be dumb.
01:45:47.680 --> 01:45:48.479
Yeah, it'd be dumb.
01:45:48.640 --> 01:45:50.159
It'd be like trim right before I died.
01:45:50.479 --> 01:46:03.680
No, but I was on I was on carnivore actually to get off of one of my medications, and I had tried with my doctor to get off this medication with like three different combinations, and it it didn't work ultimately.
01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:12.159
And then I did carnivore for a month, three months, three months, and then I was off of that medication.
01:46:12.800 --> 01:46:13.359
That's cool.
01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:14.720
That's pretty darn cool.
01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:18.319
Yeah, and I was stronger, like I felt really good.
01:46:18.479 --> 01:46:26.399
But then there's just a switch went off in my in my body, and like red meat no longer is like appetizing to me anymore.
01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:29.119
Uh, so now I'm going the Ayurvedic route.
01:46:29.439 --> 01:46:29.920
What is that?
01:46:30.079 --> 01:46:31.119
Ayurvedic.
01:46:31.439 --> 01:46:33.439
It's uh from India originally.
01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:38.319
It's kind of like India's um, you know, kind of traditional medicine.
01:46:38.640 --> 01:46:38.960
Okay.
01:46:39.359 --> 01:46:47.840
And it's all based with like food and herbs, and you it's based on finding out what your dosha is, which is kind of like your body type.
01:46:48.319 --> 01:46:54.880
It's similar to that, but it's not about physical body type, it's about like your constitution of like what's your body temperature tend to be.
01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:58.399
Like, do you tend to run cold or hot or you know, what have you?
01:46:58.640 --> 01:47:02.640
So it's very, it's kind of more individualized, and you can have combinations.
01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:05.840
Like I'm I'm I'm I'm pitta and vata.
01:47:06.159 --> 01:47:07.760
Um, there's like there's like three main ones.
01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:08.960
The other one's khaff.
01:47:09.199 --> 01:47:09.840
Okay, good.
01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:21.920
No, sorry, I was like, I'm glad you're you're breaking it down because I was like, is it like a uh like you hit different um like metrics and it's like a siding scale, or is it like like classes?
01:47:22.239 --> 01:47:28.479
You know, it's based on kind of like a questionnaire of like what like what your tendencies are and what your preferences are.
01:47:29.279 --> 01:47:36.000
And so, but it's also based on the elements like fire, earth, water, ether, and one other thing.
01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:36.960
What's ether?
01:47:37.439 --> 01:47:38.079
What's ether?
01:47:38.399 --> 01:47:38.960
What's ether?
01:47:39.439 --> 01:47:41.920
Ether is what connects all of us.
01:47:42.239 --> 01:47:43.199
Tight juice.
01:47:43.520 --> 01:47:44.640
It connects all of us.
01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:52.159
Yeah, it's like I don't know, it's hard to explain what the ether is, but it's it's this thing is it's out there.
01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:53.439
We're swimming in it right now.
01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:54.239
Yeah.
01:47:54.800 --> 01:48:01.920
Um, so anyway, but I I I'm a fan of RV Vedic because it just it makes you feel good in general.
01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:16.000
Like you you know, like, okay, it's you you have you have a guide of like, okay, I can only have like warm, warm drinks, or I can have this type of spice versus that type of spice, but there's still a good amount of variety in it.
01:48:16.560 --> 01:48:20.640
You know, whereas carnivore, there's there's little variety.
01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:24.000
Yeah, can you um but I didn't mind when I was on carnivore.
01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:25.680
I didn't mind steak and eggs all the time.
01:48:25.840 --> 01:48:28.880
What are what are the the rules of carnivore again?
01:48:29.119 --> 01:48:31.920
So there's a there's a spectrum of carnivore.
01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:32.399
Oh, okay.
01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:40.239
Um I I actually read three different books on carnivore before going for it because it was so dramatic.
01:48:40.399 --> 01:48:42.079
And I was vegan before that.
01:48:42.239 --> 01:48:42.479
Okay.
01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:43.600
Like big sweet.
01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:46.000
I yeah.
01:48:46.239 --> 01:48:50.159
So I I like, you know, I experiment with my diet quite a bit.
01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:56.560
So I read, you know, three of them, and then so Paul Saladino's book was like the main one that I really remember.
01:48:57.199 --> 01:49:07.920
And you know, it's so but the the the spectrum is like, okay, the more um the the less strict one is basically you can have meat and dairy.
01:49:08.079 --> 01:49:15.680
So you can have milk and cheese and fruit, like like like berries, but not fruit that has like very little sugar.
01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:16.159
Okay.
01:49:16.640 --> 01:49:21.439
Um, and then the other spectrum is only meat and organs.
01:49:23.199 --> 01:49:24.159
And that's it.
01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:27.439
So there's some like variety in the between.
01:49:27.600 --> 01:49:31.920
So I was on like the meat and cheese and eggs.
01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:34.880
Oh yeah, you have you get eggs in all of them.
01:49:35.600 --> 01:49:35.840
Yeah.
01:49:36.079 --> 01:49:36.399
Okay.
01:49:36.800 --> 01:49:40.960
So um Tyson, when we had Tyson on, he was talking about the fight camp.
01:49:41.279 --> 01:49:43.119
Do you remember the stuff for the fight camp?
01:49:43.279 --> 01:49:45.520
Was it I feel like it's it was carnivore.
01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:51.199
I wouldn't say it was carnivore, it was like to me, maybe closer to like paleo.
01:49:52.079 --> 01:49:52.319
Okay.
01:49:52.640 --> 01:49:54.000
Meaning like Because there's veg.
01:49:54.479 --> 01:49:57.359
Yeah, you could have like lettuce and stuff, which I think like in carnivore.
01:49:57.760 --> 01:49:59.920
Vegetables are a big no no in carnivore land, carnivore land.
01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:00.399
Okay.
01:50:00.560 --> 01:50:04.079
You could have like fruits and vegetables with it.
01:50:04.560 --> 01:50:07.439
So to me, that'd be like more on the side of the paleo.
01:50:07.680 --> 01:50:07.840
Okay.
01:50:09.119 --> 01:50:10.560
Paleo was my best experience.
01:50:10.640 --> 01:50:19.680
Like when I first started like actual dieting, I was like in high school and competing a lot in jujitsu and like trying to figure out weight classes and just like feeling out my own performance.
01:50:19.920 --> 01:50:26.399
That diet really worked for me at that time to like get trim but have really good performance at the same time.
01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:28.319
I've tried a bunch of different things.
01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:34.000
I've never I've never gone probably more than like 24-36 hours of like strict carnivore.
01:50:34.560 --> 01:50:37.119
I just never I don't have the drive to do it.
01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:43.600
Every time I've ever tried, I get like the blood sugar crash, which I'm sure you just gotta like push through and you probably feel fine after.
01:50:43.680 --> 01:50:48.720
But like I get that crash and I'm like, no, I'm gonna have something sweet and kind of perk my brain back up.
01:50:48.800 --> 01:50:48.880
Yeah.
01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:53.520
How how is paleo different from keto again?
01:50:54.880 --> 01:50:59.279
I think in a way that's like a square is still a rectangle.
01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:04.239
So it could you could have like a keto paleo diet at this point.
01:51:04.399 --> 01:51:04.960
It's pretty high.
01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:05.199
Okay.
01:51:06.239 --> 01:51:08.159
A keto is just a very low carb diet.
01:51:08.319 --> 01:51:16.720
I think I think there's I can't remember the number of carbs that are allowed on keto, like 20 or 15 carbs, I think, a day, something like that, which is very low.
01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:16.960
Yeah.
01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:19.279
So like, but vegetables have a lot of carbs in them.
01:51:19.439 --> 01:51:19.840
Yeah.
01:51:20.079 --> 01:51:23.199
So you'd have to have a a paleo diet with like a low carb.
01:51:23.600 --> 01:51:24.239
Yeah.
01:51:24.479 --> 01:51:25.920
So you could you could do both.
01:51:26.159 --> 01:51:30.159
What other have you done any other um kinds of diets and stuff that you remember?
01:51:30.399 --> 01:51:35.279
The the most stupid one I did was I tried to do a keto vegan diet.
01:51:35.600 --> 01:51:36.720
That was dumb.
01:51:37.039 --> 01:51:39.760
Because talk about talk about blood sugar.
01:51:40.079 --> 01:51:43.840
Yeah, you just how do you even do a keto but uh but vegan?
01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:46.159
But vegan, like a bunch of nuts and shit?
01:51:46.880 --> 01:51:47.199
Yeah, yeah.
01:51:47.279 --> 01:51:48.399
Where's the protein coming in from?
01:51:49.039 --> 01:51:49.760
Why did I do that?
01:51:49.920 --> 01:51:50.880
I don't fucking know.
01:51:51.119 --> 01:51:54.319
Um uh like two weeks.
01:51:54.560 --> 01:51:55.039
Oh yeah.
01:51:56.239 --> 01:51:57.840
It didn't last very long.
01:51:58.560 --> 01:52:00.399
Um what other diets have I done?
01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:02.399
I mean, just regular food, whatever.
01:52:02.560 --> 01:52:09.039
Um, but yeah, I think I was vegan and yeah, for like I said, for three years and then carnivore, and then Ayurvedic.
01:52:09.279 --> 01:52:09.520
Yeah.
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:13.199
And how long have you been doing it's uh Ayuruvic?
01:52:13.439 --> 01:52:14.399
Yeah, Ayurvedic.
01:52:14.640 --> 01:52:15.199
Are you vetic?
01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:16.319
You said that at first.
01:52:17.119 --> 01:52:18.159
Not for very long.
01:52:19.199 --> 01:52:21.359
Not for I've only been doing it for like two weeks.
01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:23.439
Okay, yeah, and you enjoy it?
01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:25.039
Like I'm enjoying it a lot, yeah.
01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:31.199
I'm enjoying like cooking meals again, you know, because before it was just very utilitarian, just like let's make some meat, you know.
01:52:32.239 --> 01:52:36.399
I feel like every carnivore person like just eats on a cutting board.
01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:41.279
Yeah, like the carnivore plate because you just like use the cutting board for your dish.
01:52:41.520 --> 01:52:42.159
Yeah.
01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:53.439
Um I I'm curious, like being a physical therapist, every physical therapist I've ever been around has been like an absolute physical specimen of some kind, right?
01:52:53.600 --> 01:52:59.119
Like I I think there's like more hacking in like the physical therapist world.
01:52:59.359 --> 01:53:03.359
Um do you like what's it been like for you on the mat?
01:53:03.439 --> 01:53:11.439
And has your experience in physical therapy helped you stay like protected and safe on the mat, or are you subject to all the same injuries the rest of us are from jujitsu?
01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:13.199
I feel like I'm less injury prone.
01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:17.359
Yeah, I've been because I can feel when an injury is going to start to happen.
01:53:17.600 --> 01:53:19.520
Like my neck, for example, right?
01:53:19.760 --> 01:53:25.279
Like if I trained for like too many days in a row, I'll have like I'll get like jujitsu you know, jujitsu neck.
01:53:25.359 --> 01:53:29.039
Yeah, you know, where it's like kind of stiff and achy, you know, all the time.
01:53:29.199 --> 01:53:29.439
Yeah.
01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:32.640
And but return, you're like, Yeah.
01:53:33.920 --> 01:53:34.880
Exactly.
01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:37.199
Uh like checking the rear view.
01:53:37.279 --> 01:53:38.319
Like, yeah, exactly.
01:53:38.399 --> 01:53:38.800
That's the worst.
01:53:40.319 --> 01:53:42.239
Check the blind, check the blind spot.
01:53:42.479 --> 01:53:46.800
Um, so I know how to like mitigate injuries, you know.
01:53:46.880 --> 01:53:58.800
I didn't like using the term prevent injury because I don't think that's realistic in jujitsu, but you can mitigate it and you can keep it from being like, you know, bad, like, you know, than it otherwise would be.
01:53:58.960 --> 01:53:59.279
Yeah.
01:53:59.680 --> 01:54:03.520
So so yes, I think I have a little bit of an advantage.
01:54:03.840 --> 01:54:09.840
Yeah, I feel like it's maybe just like from like the school, but every PT I've known is also into fitness.
01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:13.439
I've never really met any that weren't like really an athlete basically themselves.
01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:15.840
And I just feel like they've figured it out.
01:54:16.000 --> 01:54:22.079
The guy that I was working for did Iron Man's, and he could do all sorts of stuff that I didn't think was humanly possible.
01:54:22.399 --> 01:54:33.119
And I was like, like he would do like a pull-up bar, but then go horizontal maintain that while doing like like row pull-ups, like a front lever.
01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:36.239
But he would be under the bar.
01:54:36.560 --> 01:54:38.000
Yeah, yeah, gotcha.
01:54:38.239 --> 01:54:43.119
Yeah, and I was like, man, like I and from my perspective to him, he's like, Yeah, I just figured out how the body works.
01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:47.039
Like, I guess I guess there's some some uh benefits to it.
01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:55.199
Because like I studied exercise science, I learned anatomy, I learned some physiology, I learned some things that did help me as like a fight sports coach for like weight cutting.
01:54:55.359 --> 01:54:59.119
It did help a little bit, but nothing like major performance-wise.
01:54:59.359 --> 01:55:13.199
But I imagine like in physical therapy school, you eventually go over enough that like if you want to be an athlete and you harness all the education you have, you could probably come up with you know a good programming and the diet side of it, and everything kind of makes sense.
01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:17.199
Yeah, I've really been interested and curious about getting into rock climbing.
01:55:17.359 --> 01:55:18.960
Uh I think that could be fun.
01:55:19.279 --> 01:55:21.920
I feel like it's a super popular like crossover.
01:55:22.159 --> 01:55:23.119
Yeah, yeah, I think it is.
01:55:25.199 --> 01:55:28.800
There's very few things that you can mimic jujitsu and rock climbing is actually very close.
01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:30.479
It's super nerve-wracking.
01:55:30.560 --> 01:55:35.199
You're using your hands, you gotta have really mobile hips, like it's more with your legs than people think it is.
01:55:35.439 --> 01:55:36.079
It definitely is.
01:55:36.560 --> 01:55:38.880
So there's there's definitely some some similarities there.
01:55:39.039 --> 01:55:39.439
Yeah.
01:55:39.680 --> 01:55:44.960
Why do you think that jujitsu is so good for mental health?
01:55:45.199 --> 01:55:46.960
Like, why what do you think it is about it?
01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:49.119
Gosh, so many things.
01:55:49.439 --> 01:55:50.399
So many things.
01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:54.319
I mean, just from the physiological aspect of it, the human interaction.
01:55:54.800 --> 01:55:56.880
I was about to say, I'm just here for the hugs, bro.
01:55:57.119 --> 01:56:00.319
Yeah, but but like, but like that's on multiple levels interacting.
01:56:00.399 --> 01:56:08.239
Like, yeah, you you get you're you're talking to somebody else, you know, you're you're touching somebody, you're getting also deep pressure.
01:56:08.479 --> 01:56:12.319
That deep pressure helps to like increase your oxytocin levels.
01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:13.279
Yeah, believe it.
01:56:13.359 --> 01:56:16.720
You know, yeah, and and uh and your serotonin.
01:56:17.039 --> 01:56:23.760
So I mean it's it's physiologically, you know, help helpful for your for your mental health.
01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:39.359
But then it's just also like having the community and especially if you have an accountability person, like that that's like wanting you to come to class with them or like asking like if you hadn't, you know, if you haven't been in a while or whatever, then it's like sense of belonging, right?
01:56:39.520 --> 01:56:42.560
That's huge from from for mental health.
01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:43.199
Yeah.
01:56:43.439 --> 01:56:50.000
I mean, there's I mean, gosh, we could probably think of like a hundred between the three of us reasons why it's so good for you.
01:56:50.319 --> 01:57:04.239
That's why, like, when I I don't know why I have such a negative view for the future of people like exercising, but I just think it's gonna get like dulled down into like eat like the food that this is all the nutrition you need, so like make it as small as possible and as f simple and as fast as possible.
01:57:04.319 --> 01:57:09.840
And I've felt like that's gonna have some similarity with like exercise, or it's gonna come into the exercise pod and it does it for you.
01:57:10.079 --> 01:57:17.199
Oh yeah, the machine that can like, yeah, right, but at least I do think I've always felt that jujitsu will be sticking around for a long time.
01:57:17.359 --> 01:57:24.720
Oh yeah, because for people to come get all these things at once, like you'd have to go do so many different things to get what jujitsu can give you, right?
01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:30.079
You'd have to like go to the bar and socialize, and then you gotta like go do the sets and reps for the exercise.
01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:30.800
Yeah.
01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:41.119
And it's so healthy for I mean, even like the cardiovascular aspect of jujitsu that that you know you get that that high from you know, from your cardiovascular standpoint.
01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:49.680
And yeah, I mean there's just it checks so many boxes, you know, it really does getting the rage out too.
01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:52.079
That that was kind of what I was wanting to get to.
01:57:52.560 --> 01:57:54.880
Wow, yeah, especially for females.
01:57:55.039 --> 01:57:56.560
We got that sacred rage.
01:57:56.720 --> 01:57:59.359
Yeah, maybe maybe men have sacred rage too, though.
01:57:59.520 --> 01:58:00.560
Maybe they do.
01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:04.239
I don't I I don't I don't rage.
01:58:04.479 --> 01:58:07.920
I think one thing I need to work on is like actually amping up intensity.
01:58:08.159 --> 01:58:10.720
Oh, you're just you're you're there as like a friendly partner.
01:58:11.359 --> 01:58:11.920
Yeah, yeah.
01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:14.159
And I'm like, dude, choke him, choke him.
01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:15.279
Finish the guy.
01:58:15.920 --> 01:58:17.359
I can be that way sometimes too, though.
01:58:17.520 --> 01:58:19.039
I'm just like I I laugh a lot.
01:58:19.359 --> 01:58:20.560
I laugh a ton.
01:58:20.720 --> 01:58:23.039
I'm just laughing and singing the whole time.
01:58:24.239 --> 01:58:35.359
No, but like on like the vibe of man, like women's matches, women's MMA fights, like there is definitely something about that type of aggression that's different from like the male aggression.
01:58:35.600 --> 01:58:42.960
And uh I also think like it takes like a pretty tough person to do jujitsu out of anyone.
01:58:43.039 --> 01:58:45.119
So like women that train are like doubly tough.
01:58:45.359 --> 01:58:46.960
Yes, you know, yes.
01:58:47.119 --> 01:58:55.119
Um, but I pick up on it because like you can see it, like it's I feel like they're I feel like with guys, like the win and lose is like a higher and a low, right?
01:58:55.199 --> 01:58:57.760
Like the the winner just feels great, the loser feels terrible.
01:58:57.840 --> 01:59:03.279
But I feel like when women compete, like they seem to both be at like the same intensity after, you know.
01:59:03.600 --> 01:59:03.840
Interesting.
01:59:04.079 --> 01:59:08.239
Like I feel like their competitive drive like operates differently than for guys.
01:59:08.479 --> 01:59:14.640
Um, my last question for you say we're gonna give you a super fight in jujitsu.
01:59:14.960 --> 01:59:17.359
So you're gonna go do the next WO.
01:59:17.520 --> 01:59:19.680
What's your walkout song gonna be?
01:59:19.920 --> 01:59:20.800
Oh shit.
01:59:20.960 --> 01:59:23.520
I was gonna ask you guys for your walkout songs.
01:59:23.840 --> 01:59:25.920
Oh I'll go first.
01:59:26.079 --> 01:59:30.000
My my uh walkout song I always pick is uh So Fresh So Clean Outcast.
01:59:30.239 --> 01:59:33.600
Oh, that's fits you very well, yeah.
01:59:33.760 --> 01:59:34.880
I'm not surprised at all.
01:59:35.760 --> 01:59:36.239
Thanks.
01:59:37.840 --> 01:59:39.039
Ah, dang.
01:59:39.279 --> 01:59:40.720
I don't know the name of this one.
01:59:40.960 --> 01:59:42.319
Oh man, you can sing it.
01:59:42.479 --> 01:59:45.600
Yeah, he's uh he's an encyclopedian of all things musical.
01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:47.520
I'm gonna go with Eye of the Tiger.
01:59:48.479 --> 01:59:49.119
Classic.
01:59:51.600 --> 01:59:58.800
But there's this one like old school country song that's like it talks about rolling home or something or rollin'.
01:59:58.960 --> 02:00:03.199
I'm always rolling, and so yeah, something like that, whatever that song is, really.
02:00:04.159 --> 02:00:08.239
If you if you find it, it'll probably come to you like as you're driving off or something.
02:00:08.319 --> 02:00:08.960
Yeah, let me know.
02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:09.760
I'll send it to you.
02:00:09.920 --> 02:00:10.960
Yeah, that'll be great.
02:00:11.119 --> 02:00:11.520
Awesome.
02:00:11.680 --> 02:00:17.600
Well, thanks so much for for coming by and taking the time to talk with us about physical therapy.
02:00:17.760 --> 02:00:23.199
And um, if you want, you can like shout out where people can find you, your website, that kind of stuff.
02:00:23.439 --> 02:00:24.000
Yeah, for sure.
02:00:24.079 --> 02:00:29.359
So my website is thegrapplerspt.com, and on Instagram I'm at thegrapplers pt.
02:00:29.520 --> 02:00:30.560
So easy to remember.
02:00:30.880 --> 02:00:31.439
Awesome.
02:00:31.680 --> 02:00:34.960
Well, thanks so much for watching, and we'll be back with another episode soon.
02:00:35.199 --> 02:00:36.880
Juice, you got anything?
02:00:37.199 --> 02:00:41.279
Um comment down below what you remember from biology class.
02:00:42.560 --> 02:00:47.359
The mitochondria is the powerhouses.
02:00:47.680 --> 02:00:48.720
Oh, thank you.