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Okay, so welcome to uh Full Throssles sixth episode and we are building up to Sunday's Black Country Derby and there was only one person on my list to speak to uh this week and I'm really really delighted to say I've managed to get Peter Oddenwingy off the golf course and uh into uh his uh studio to talk to us about uh wolves against the baggies.
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Um so Peter, thank you for joining.
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How are you?
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How are you feeling?
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How are you doing?
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I'm good, I'm good, thank you.
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So um I played golf actually today in a golf day um in Ivesham at the Vale, and one of my playing partners was a West Brom fan, and uh I don't believe in coincidences, so I had three birdies today, and uh when I missed the pot for the fourth, we did.
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I said to him, you know what?
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I prefer to have a to it.
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Sounds more like uh hat trick is better than four.
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He goes, I agree with that totally.
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So we had a little laugh, we took a picture as usual.
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He said, Can you do the three?
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And he said he has a few Wolf friends to show this to.
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So, so long as their friendship continues, uh, I said, You can of course show him that photo.
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Brilliant, Peter.
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I I guess you know, we'll we'll talk a little bit about the the build-up to to that particular derby.
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It came in your second season at the club.
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Um and uh it's something you'll never ever be forgotten.
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You you uh and you will never ever get bored of talking about it, I guess.
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No, of course.
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It's one of my the biggest days for me in uh club football.
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So I've scored a hat-trick in Lille versus Lance in France, it's a northern derby.
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They have a history as well, going all the way back.
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Um I've scored in the Moscow derbies.
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Um so and uh the one West Brom Wolves is uh is different because uh 80th birthday of Lille was celebrated uh two years ago now.
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I was there.
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Some people talk about that day, the hat trick they remember.
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But uh the one when West Brom fans talk about this one, it there's more to it.
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So it's obvious to me that it's the biggest one I've played in, the biggest hat trick.
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Obviously, it was my only hat trick in Premier League anyway, it's precious, but because it was um yeah, in a game that meant uh so much for Baggies fans, and uh and we always have a smile and a laugh about it.
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I have many friends that are Wolves fans, they you know they tell me off, and you know, but we have to do our jobs, right?
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We have to, yeah, amazing, amazing, Peter.
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And and it wasn't your first goal against Wolves that season because you scored in the home game.
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Uh in the first that was your first goal against Wolves, wasn't it?
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Yes, so I came back um earlier, so that game against Wolf actually cost me eight months of international football because I told my coach in Nigeria saying we have a game against wolves coming this weekend.
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I was nursing a slight muscle injury, so I only played 20 minutes in the game against Ethiopia.
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So I asked him if I can go back and have a full week uh with the physios and prepare for the wolves game.
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This is the home game.
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This is the home game, yeah.
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The home game, the one I scored the second goal from Sharna's super back hill pass.
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So um, uh but my coach wasn't letting me go, but I still went to the secretary of Nigerian Federation.
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I said he should give me my passport.
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So give me my passport.
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I had a flight ticket already going, but I didn't tell the coach that before the match, the official match, all we needed to do is win that match against Ethiopia, and we needed a four-goal average, and we won 4-0, so everything was perfect.
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But in the midweek, we had a game against against Kenya, and it didn't really mean much to us.
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We had 25 players in this in the camp, we had even the reserves, like the Nigerian-based, home-based uh Super Eagles as well.
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So there was enough players to play that game, so I uh I preferred to go back, knowing how sometimes with injuries Roy can be.
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So, anyway, I fly back and the I annoy the coach of the national team.
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But when I scored the second goal, the uh Jerome Thomas was the first guy to embrace me.
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He goes, You're vindicated, like I'm so happy for you.
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Because he already knew the articles that from Nigeria were coming that I'm in trouble with this coach, that I left the camp without his permission, and all of that.
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So I was somehow vindicated um on that match, and the goal felt very special.
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But I always also say my dad made me work hard as a kid on my left foot.
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So any goal I score with my left foot, I always say, you know, listen to your to your parents' kids, you know, because if not, my career wouldn't have been as good as it was, because I'm properly two-footed, and against wolves I've scored uh but with both feet, the right, the right, the left.
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So um only a header missing.
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That's fantastic, Praise.
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But I'll just I'll just I'll come back to the wolves uh uh games in in a in in a in a moment.
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But I just want to yeah, because you you joined uh Roberto Di Matteo signed you, and uh I think you scored your first goal uh against Sunland, your debut with a right foot.
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It was a right foot, I think.
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You it was the right foot, yeah, it was.
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Yeah, so you remember that that you remember that the debut goal.
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I can never forget that day, my first Premier League match, my first goal, my first victory.
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And uh, you know, luckily it was the first home game of the season, so you see the uh you can feel it, you know.
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I could feel it before the game, uh during the warm-up, you know, that is the first game of the season.
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You can feel those vibes as we're doing all those our warm-ups that you know people have missed football uh over the summer.
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Um, yeah, I was given uh uh the chance to start the game, which surprised me as well.
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Uh, but yeah, uh I just said yeah, new team, new teammates.
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There's not much understanding between us, but that goal, uh, the way we scored it, it looked like we've played uh with each other for a long time.
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So James Morrison uh he put the ball exactly where I wanted it, how I made the call for it.
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So and yeah, it was a great start.
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Of course, that day was as important as any other day for me with Westbrook.
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Fantastic.
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And and and really lovely you've mentioned James Morrison there because obviously he's gonna be he's made such a lovely start to his uh to his his time, and he's gonna be in charge of his first black country derby on derby.
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Yeah, and I just remember the yeah, my third goal.
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He assisted my third goal as well.
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He did.
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There's a there's a famous photograph of him standing behind the goal, isn't there?
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Behind the goal, yeah.
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That's right.
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That was funny.
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Yeah, amazing.
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So you scored 15 goals that season, Peter.
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It was beyond your wildest dreams, surely that kind of first season.
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Oh, of course, yeah, of course.
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When I bumped into my former coach in Lokomotive Moscow on a trip to Spain that summer, he looked, he was like, uh, you shook my hand, he was like, Um, yeah, he said this is a really great achievement.
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So um, yeah, it was uh I was probably surprised a bit because that was my highest season.
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14 in France for Lille was my highest before that, so that was a record-breaking season.
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But later, when I looked at the stats, I realized that I assisted quite a few, I earned a few penalties.
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So these are also things that um seven assists, seven assists are that the number, yeah.
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So those things are important because uh I didn't pay attention to that during my career, but later when I started uh seeing people are saying about assists and um and uh other things, you know, contributions.
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I'm like, oh yeah, that's actually you know also important.
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Um, so yeah, uh first season was fantastic, just one moment of injury after Bolton game, right?
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Um you cannot talk about my time in West Brom without mentioning injuries because there were a few times I had injuries, um and my biggest fallout with the club uh manager came because of injuries.
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So Roy was always uh they're desperate.
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He wanted me available for every game, but a few times it was literally impossible.
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So for yeah, I don't know, because the start of your second season when Roy I obviously coincided with Roy taking over from Roberto, so it was frustrating for you that the start of the second season, right?
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Yes, yes, but um Roy went too far.
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He was saying uh I didn't take part in pre-season friendlies and these for but he that's his decision.
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I was fit training every preseason training, didn't miss any, and then he goes later complaining that he didn't take part in pre-season friendlies, but he just didn't play me because he wanted to uh like uh keep me fit or protect me from whatever.
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But when I'm available to play, I'm like any other player.
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Uh nobody needs to protect me.
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I'm an aggressive striker, I fight against big defenders, like I'm not some soft guy on the pitch, you know.
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Players know this, but he talked to me like I'm some kid that just started football yesterday.
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But I'm fully international.
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I've played in two World Cups before coming to West Brom, so it used to annoy me.
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I'm full of passion for football, as well as Roy is, you know.
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At that time, I all I could do is say, Man, this guy, you know, and then I just wait to get fit, and then when I'm fit, I I play with all my heart.
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All people know me in every country I've played that once I'm on the pitch, I will leave nothing there as much as I can.
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You know, I wasn't the best player in the world, but I'll make sure I make enough runs and cause problems and play with all my heart.
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So um, but yeah, the the the few slow moments, um, then I pick up.
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Uh you know, did you have cross words with Roy, man to man, face to face, or was it not?
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But that's the thing, you know.
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The time after the second interview, you know, a lot of people don't understand this.
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Um, when you are honest with your job, that time when Roy used to do those interviews.
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I was a guy on Twitter.
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I have uh Twitter that time, I had not sure Instagram, but anyway, Twitter was the main one, and I get hammered by people, you know.
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You never know, they could have been Wolves fans, probably were getting into the or necessary abuse, and it used to, and then it piled up at some point.
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It got too much.
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I'm like, nah.
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So coupled with a bit of a fallout with a few players, and uh after the second season, I asked Dan Ash would say I need I I really I said that I don't feel like how I should uh on a daily basis here, and my head's gone.
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So, but although but in general, though, the time with West Brom was fantastic, it was amazing.
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Um, it was fantastic, just like a bit of a bitterness.
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It's like last time I was at the Hawthorns, um, I went through the whole of East Stand all the way down, walked around the Bromie end, only hugs and high fives, and all perfect.
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And I'm so high.
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And then as I'm about to give the interview to uh to um to the club media, you know, standing in front of the whole uh stadium.
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Somebody from uh I even know the guy, Neil, like who does our golf days.
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He shouts from the stand something about QPR, and it just drains me again.
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So we're back to square one, and you know, and last year I would nearly squared up with a guy.
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Uh maybe he was a bit tipsy or drunk, but the big picture is amazing, you know.
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I like I'm there happily at the hot ones.
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It's my family, you know, my first British family that I cherish a lot, but there will still be that something little that will just spoil it.
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But today I was driving and I was laughing.
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I said, But West Brom fans, we they say Boing Boeing, right?
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It's ups and downs, back for back for good and bad.
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So my life has been like that.
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So some days I just take it in a good state, but some days it just it just annoys me.
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But so most times, all good, like today on the golf course with the West Brom fan.
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Last week I played with one as well at the Forest of Arden.
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It was just so good to see him happy.
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Like he was asking these questions about people, Paul Sharna and these guys, and they are so like you can see the excitement in their eyes when I talk about some of the players, have yeah, just little little stories.
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So, in general, of course, um uh my time at West Brom was very bright, it was very boring indeed with your with your times and your careers, and the life of a strike striker is boing boeing.
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I guess so you're a bright club.
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That's actually also a positional thing.
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That's true.
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That's true, it's a positional thing because I don't see any uh manager being so desperate for a midfielder because you know they can they are kind of they can replace someone and do a job, but if there are no strikers are precious, a precious commodity, yes, yes.
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So but so you so October you score in the 2-0.
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Uh do you remember much about the build-up to the game at Molyneux in February, Peter?
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Do you remember much about that?
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Uh the build-up, or you obviously you you know the game itself, but what how you were feeling and what the what you you know the whole thing was kind of.
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Oh, well, we're quite uh how were you aware?
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Were you made aware of how important the game was?
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You you knew how important the game was.
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Yeah, yeah, because there's always reminders from what I remember.
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We always had a target when Roy speaks, because when he took over, it was like a uh February on the first season, so we were not safe yet when he took over.
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So that target, we have to meet the target.
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But as soon as we meet the target, we're all hungry for more because we there's momentum going.
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So before that game, I think we were doing okay, and um there was good momentum.
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I remember before the game feeling very good, before the Wolves game, and in the warm-up, there was some lightness about my movement, and I was like, I was just feeling good, I was happy.
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I was just in the warm-up saying, This doesn't feel like a derby to me, this just feels like a happy day.
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Like um, I'm just happy uh footballer to play a Premier League match.
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I know it's derby, there's buzz about it, but I didn't feel like some uh I felt light.
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So um Roy even joked uh on on much of the day after saying whatever Peter did last night, uh he should keep doing that so that if he can if he can perform like this.
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So yeah, I had a laugh about that.
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So but there was nothing nothing uh super special about the preparation, uh just as the usual thing.
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Um, you know, the shape work on in the training with what Roy always did.
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But obviously he had uh he had he had the gift of having the right words, finding the right words um to you know to push players, and so yeah.
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It's amazing because I'm just talking back, Peter, you hadn't scored in four or five games before that game, and so you know you you you but then you turn up on the day and you you remember feeling this lightness and this it's do you sometimes feel this is this is my day?
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Is it because of the feeling that day I felt good, I don't know why, but I felt uh yeah, I felt I didn't feel intimidated.
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It's an away game, Derby, but for some reason I felt uh light.
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So um, but I didn't even know that I haven't scored for so many goals because when I came back from one that season after this knee injury that I had to post on Twitter my swollen knee, but I was already in full training with that knee, you know.
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Uh, but I came back, I scored against Blackburn last minute.
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Uh then after that I scored against Newcastle, I think, away where Sharna scored the late uh winner uh 4-3 with one.
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I didn't know that it's been long since I scored.
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Yeah, so you in a little for you that was quite a little uh I don't know run without goals.
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Right, dry, dry spell, but then it all changed in the 34th minute of the game at Molyneux, and I think you collected the ball and cut in from the right, didn't you?
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Yeah, my my usual moves that I'm doing to my left foot.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I can teach young boys what that means because because I was quick.
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If um defenders show showed me to the right, I will run to the right and put a cross in.
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And uh, if they show me one side too much, I will go there.
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So that was the advantage of being two-footed.
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So I always give my dad the credit for that since I was a kid.
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He emphasized that I do this, so um, yeah.
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Um, I remember that goal, like you know, because I've seen it so many times, Stephen Reed making the the overlapping run, which is also taking attention uh from defender going there.
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So a bit of combination play there.
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So um Leader.
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And then we'll we're leading, we're uh we're leading 2-1 and 77 minutes, and uh, I think it's a James Morrison corner that's not properly that's not properly cleared.
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Yes, and uh and then I think Liam Ridgewell manages to get a little a little involvement and you and you and you're there, you're there, you know.
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Uh it was uh Jonas.
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He was also okay.
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Was it Yonas?
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Okay, yeah, a little back hill with uh okay.
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Uh if you really think about it, I don't know what he was trying to do there.
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I don't know what he said.
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That's that's that's a clear that's clever, that's clever from Jonas.
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Yeah, so he thought, you know, he I don't know what he was trying to do because if there was none of our players there, doing that means they can just clear the ball.
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But um, I was just there waiting to pounce on anything, second ball that drops, and like I I just need to send it in uh in the direction of the goal, as we say.
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And on a I did like a golf turn, so no one I play good golf now because I had to turn have a full turn, the full turn exactly.
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So um, yeah, and again, it's still the left foot.
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I always tell young ones that sometimes it's not about shooting hard, just work on that weak foot as much as you can for little things, you know.
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So I tell that to my youngest son as well these days, so yeah, that's not my standard type of goals because I'm a runner and a shooter, but I'm really happy that on a day like this I could score goals that are unlikely for me.
00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:44.079
So when you when a striker gets two goals, what's going through their mind?
00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:45.279
What's going through their minds?
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And the the game's going well now.
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You you made you made it 3-1, it's 4-1.
00:19:50.799 --> 00:19:54.720
You know, is it are you that obsessed that you want the hat trick?
00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:57.759
Is that is that the I didn't even think about it.
00:19:57.920 --> 00:20:01.519
I was not greedy at all for more glory, I was just done.
00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:03.920
That was me kind of done for the day.
00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.359
Um, I'm I'm saying that's me, guys.
00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:09.359
I'm more than happy here.
00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:18.079
But yeah, I always tell people that Coxy, Simon Cox came to me and said to me, Hey, go get the third, like score hat trick today.
00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:25.680
So I wouldn't forget this because he came to said to me, he said, go complete, get make sure you do a hat trick.
00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:30.480
And then the moment I was like, Oh, yeah, that's true, it could be even better than than than that.
00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:35.599
So then obviously, I'm still in the game and the opportunity comes, I score it.
00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:39.039
But probably if we had a penalty, they would have let me take it.
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:47.200
So but yeah, it wasn't a penalty, so I think I think I think James, I think Maz was involved in that one as well, really, wasn't he?
00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:49.440
Yeah, so good timing, good timing.
00:20:49.599 --> 00:21:05.599
I uh timed my run as well, so there was good understanding between us again there because I could run to the first post or forward of the defender, but I stopped so the gap opens between me uh uh and the defender so that uh Moza could pass it through that gap.
00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:08.480
So when I stopped, is when I created that gap.
00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:16.720
And the moment I created the gap, I could see his head was up and he saw it, and then he had to put the exact weight of pass that I needed.
00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:22.000
So I finished it and the the defender not to intercept it, so and he did it well again.
00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:40.799
So um, and yeah, uh I could it that moment felt so longer than it is because I hit the ball not to not to drag it wide, I made sure I kind of hit the target, and I remember uh keep a lane kind of trying to jab it safe, and the keeper nearly saved it, but it still went in.
00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.519
So what is meant to be will always be.
00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:53.039
So um sometimes I guess sometimes not making a run and just stopping is is is better than making a run, isn't it?
00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:54.799
No, we call it the double run.
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I first made the run that he the defender will think that you're gonna continue the Run at that pace, yeah.
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:09.519
So when I change pace, that means I stop, which means he's still going because I decided to stop, so he has to react to my move.
00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:13.119
So it's not that I wasn't moving, I moved.
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I is it called a double run or a dummy run.
00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:18.240
So in English, yeah.
00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:24.319
So um, yeah, that's how you just create a little bit of a gap where they can find you with the past.
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:32.079
So and and it creates and it creates your hat trick, and so in forevermore in the record books, there it is.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I joke about it.
00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:35.519
I say it's forever, of course.
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You know, I tell them when we are in heaven, we will be still appreciating.
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I'll be playing guitar and we can be singing songs about you have the match ball.
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Do you still have the match ball?
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Do you remember looking after the match ball?
00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.480
Treasury guy that I played golf with today asked me about it.
00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:58.160
Um I said uh I you might not believe it, I said, but I gave it away.
00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:05.519
Um, so uh they were uh uh is it I forgot the name now just jumped out of my head.
00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:11.920
Um I have a friend at West Brom Fund, she was uh doing a fundraiser uh with Darren Moore.
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:18.559
They were going to Kenya to do some job for Albion Foundation and charity to some kids, you know.
00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:20.720
Um, so some poor kids.
00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:23.519
And she asked for a few things like what I could donate.
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:35.119
So a few times before that, I gave them like a pair of boots, then some shirt, but then the second time they were going, like I didn't have much that time, but because of their effort, I was impressed.
00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:40.880
You know, it's so nice to see people concerned, and they're gonna travel all the way to Kenya to do a bit.
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.759
So um uh I said, You can have you know, you can have the ball.
00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.400
I was curious to see how much that could raise.
00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:50.079
So I said, I'm gonna give it to you.
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:56.400
She came to my golf club to ask Tonwood to take it, and when I was passing the ball to her, she looked at me, said Peter, are you sure?
00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.000
I said, Yeah, I'm sure.
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I said, Um, I think a baggy fan that will buy it on your auction will even appreciate it probably more than me.
00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:11.039
And in my head, I'm like, they're gonna pass it on to each other, you know, to their friends, to have it in their houses.
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:20.960
So I thought the ball will do a bit more than just lying in my in the bag with my jerseys and the rest, not even being fully pumped, because I'm not gonna kick that ball around.
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:30.000
So I said, well, let the ball like just go around with its energy and uh do like if you raise money that pay your ticket or your flights.
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That's for me, it's good enough.
00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.960
And I told her though one day I might want to buy it back.
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:43.759
So I said, when I'm ready to buy it back, I will announce on uh I'll announce on social media and they will find that ball for me.
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.400
They will give it to the rightful owner.
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.160
Yeah, that's good.
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.160
So do you remember uh do you remember Roy's reaction after the game?
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Do you remember him saying too much to you?
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Or no, I was going around take collecting uh collecting signatures from players because um I don't know whose idea it was.
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:06.559
Somebody told me, like, get everybody to sign the ball, you know.
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:11.599
So as I walked in, I just took a pen and I went around to get players to sign and write some things.
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.799
A few boys wrote some nice stuff from high to lows.
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:28.240
So I think it was Cox's wrote from high to lows or something like that to do with the ups and downs of uh of life because maybe we did yeah, maybe we did remember that I haven't scored for a while, and then suddenly I score.
00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:33.599
So, you know, um strikers, yeah, sometimes we go to those moments.
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:46.079
Um, and I started collecting signatures and just people were writing a few bits and bops on on the ball, so I don't remember now what Roy was saying, but you could feel the buzz as every player was signing the the ball.
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:53.200
You could just feel each player's buzz that time as I was walking around because yeah, it's three big points for us for sure.
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:54.400
We saw the reaction.
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.039
It's more that it's more than three points, Pete.
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.920
No, I know how the we could see it from the pitch.
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:08.240
We were watching how the fans were celebrating, and it was obvious that like they couldn't believe what was happening, and they were really happy.
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:18.000
So I still meet people who sometimes say, you know, I was there at the Moligneux that day, um, but you know, some of them were even quite, they will be have to be young, you know.
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:23.039
So it's tell me Pete, did you tell me about it's a memorable day, yeah.
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:33.200
Yeah, tell me, did you uh think that Moz would one day become a manager, a coach?
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:34.720
Did you see anything in him?
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The intelligence or the you know that that would be a good idea.
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:46.240
No, I never I never thought about uh any of my teammates becoming coaches in my playing days, uh, because you don't know, you just don't know.
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.440
Um uh thinking about it.
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:58.720
No, I only started paying attention to this kind of things maybe in recent years, because now I start to think about one of my teammates, Dante.
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.200
He's now in a coaching in like a reserve team of Bayern Munich.
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:11.359
So you can see some players like had that leadership, that thing that they want to they want to do more than just being a footballer on the pitch.
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:22.400
So yeah, looking back at it, um, I wouldn't have said Moser will be a coach because he's not an extrovert, he's not uh a man of many words, so he never was.
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:31.680
So um, yeah, I I wouldn't have thought he will be a coach, maybe Brenty Moore or uh Stephen Reed, guys who like are vocal.
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:35.519
He was never really vocal, I would from what I remember.
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:38.160
So um, yeah, that's what people say.
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:40.000
Obviously, Chris is involved.
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:44.400
Chris is involved in the loans, I think, with uh yeah, in the next prompt, yeah.
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:45.200
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:49.680
But obviously, as a midfielder, um was uh was a clever midfielder.
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:54.640
So the the assists he gave me they are assists of guys who think, you know.
00:27:54.720 --> 00:28:01.759
Yeah, so if I make a run and I do something and I expect you to I expect you to see it, what I want.
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:06.400
Sometimes we used to point a finger where we want the ball and stuff, but some players know.
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.799
Brunty also as a player had that.
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:14.000
Um, you know, on the first Wolves game, obviously Paul Sharner had that.
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.559
He knew exactly what where I wanted the ball before back killing it to me.
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.640
You know, we had uh Yusuf a few times put me through.
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:24.799
I you know, I was uh lucky.
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:30.480
Um uh Jerome Thomas sometimes will slide me in, a few nice assists.
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.240
Um we had uh we had Yusuf Malumbe.
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:35.440
We loved Malumbu.
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:36.880
We loved Malumbu, didn't we?
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.319
I have enough supply.
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:40.079
I had enough supply, you know.
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.319
Yeah, I had the passes coming in.
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.160
So do you follow them now, Pete?
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:49.680
You are obviously aware of how well they've started this season under under under under under Morrison.
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:51.839
It's very there's a lot of optimism.
00:28:51.920 --> 00:29:00.559
I think there's a lot of smiles because of the way they're playing and they're they're fighting for each other, and it seems like there's a really good energy there.
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:01.440
Are you are you aware?
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:02.799
Do you stay in touch with people?
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.079
You know, if you uh you just said the word energy.
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:12.160
I just told um I just told the guy I played with today that that is so important in modern football.
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:24.000
So uh energy is so important to have the fitness and be hungry for like a good day at work, like match days are the best days for any footballer.
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:36.160
So um, yeah, having that energy is very important to add to your to your skills, and um, you know, so yeah, I'm aware they started well.
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.279
So um, a few quality players.
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:41.039
I watched a few games last year.
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:47.119
Some of the players I rated them, even when they were slamming them after the 2-0 against Coventry.
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:48.960
Everybody remembered John Homer.
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I was walking.
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I said no.
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.839
I said, I'm impressed even with the defense, as much as this we lost 2-0.
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:58.000
I said, No, I saw some things there that are quality, you know.
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.839
Can't just say they played against one of the best teams in the division.
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:06.240
But I said I saw more, like this squad as it is, it can do more.
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:11.599
But they were going losing game after game, so and I did mention positional discipline.
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:24.400
I'm like, I said, in our days, you know, when they put you in a position, you just stay there and play in your position, you know, not too much running about, but there was a bit too much, um, maybe eagerness or young players.
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:30.160
But later on, obviously, uh, yeah, Mosa came in and uh, you know, the simple.
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:42.079
It's interesting you say that because while he he wants to encourage uh a really nice style of play, passing football, he also really I think is very disciplined.
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.400
I think he wants he wants that.
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.359
He demands that yeah, but that's common sense, you know.
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.039
We still need to be realistic.
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.400
There are no big like big names in the team as a young squad.
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.920
You that's the basics, that's minimum you will do is discipline.
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:05.279
So if you if you had players like uh big players on the ball that can do make a difference by themselves, then yeah, you can let them sometimes freedom.
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:15.119
But at the moment we don't have players that like you know I can decide games, uh just two or three of them can just do a magic and get the ball in the net.
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.240
So um, but yeah, there's a lot of talent there.
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.240
Um, so uh it's a long season, you know.
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:32.640
Um, a lot of this is obviously to do with um communication, keeping everybody fit, you know, keeping players happy.
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.079
But that's part of football.
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:38.880
Uh Mosa is aware, you know, he has to make sure everybody's happy.
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:43.119
You have uh four strikers, you have uh I don't know, number of midfielders.
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:47.759
Yeah, you need to get everybody involved so they are fit as well and happy.
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.799
So hopefully, yeah, we have a good season.
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.680
Just two years ago, things looked really bad.
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:57.839
Oh uh, they were selling the club, uh, losing the stadium nearly.
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:07.839
So yeah, um, I remember with my kids, uh we even had a little prayer in Frankie and Dennis when the threat was even to lose the stadium.
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.000
I said, guys, let's have a little prayer here for West Brom.
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.240
No, the fears the fears were real, right?
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:17.039
The fears were real.
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:31.839
No, I I actually because I spoke to someone that explained to me a bit more the situation, and I said, Oh, it's even that bad that they were like they had to like even the stadium could be going because of that and whatever.
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.720
So it's some West Brom fan explained to me a bit.
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:46.240
Oh, I read it or somewhere on either on Facebook or somewhere, but I was like, No chance, you know, because this affects all of us because we get a bit still, you know.
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:56.240
When West Brom is doing well, we get remembered, we get invites to the games, to the games, and uh we still benefit from whatever our past clubs do.
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.880
Uh it still rubs off on us, still.
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.359
So um, yeah, we can't do that.
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:11.279
I've heard I've heard one or two people say, more than one or two people say this season, it feels like we've got our club back.
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:13.920
Um, well, I don't know.
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.079
That's what fans feel, that's what fans are feeling.
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:19.279
I see, I see.
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:25.680
Yes, because last season fans were complaining about commitment of players, like uh not giving enough.
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.720
But I haven't watched any game this season, just highlights.
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:37.359
But if I was to watch 90 minutes, maybe I have a more idea of how fit the team is and how you know how they are running.
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.000
But it's good to hear that, it's good to hear that.
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:58.079
Um uh I'm not gonna be often at the Hawthorns, but uh, I'm watching the um Blackburn game, and maybe at some point in the season one more, yeah, one more, and then I do my usual stuff with the Richardson Sweet.
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:10.960
Yeah, because you know I I will always still make sure I uh I the fans know that all my drama, all these things that happen is not to do with anything to do with the fans, yeah.
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:17.920
It's all to do with individuals inside the club with whom I had uh uh uh bad relationships.
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:24.880
So and um that's unfortunately it's uh it's football, is you're dealing with many people, you know.
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:34.559
It's a 25-man squad, there is there are coaches, about four of them, there is uh the hierarchy in the club, and sometimes people just don't get along.
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:39.280
So that was my case, and unfortunately, but it is what it is.
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:46.960
But um, fans don't know things that we know, and uh they only react to what they see in the press.
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.239
Yeah, and in my time there was not a lot of good press.
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.119
Sometimes they see really bad stuff and they react to it.
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.920
So sometimes I understand, but it's still annoying.
00:34:56.079 --> 00:35:14.000
And as a person, I would like to defend my my um my position also, and sometimes uh you know, when you're frustrated and you feel like they're not listening and they don't want to hear you, uh you then maybe over overdo it, you know.
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.760
So because you want to make sure you you are heard.
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:25.599
Let's let's uh that sounds like the subject for a second podcast, maybe at some other point in the season.
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:27.519
Uh you you never know.
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:28.079
One day.
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:29.360
One day.
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.880
This is just uh it's been fantastic to talk to you, Pete.
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:38.159
I'm really, really, uh I'm really really tough to be able to do this in this particular week.
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:39.519
Because there is no way.
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:47.039
I think that was the that's probably the main reason I said okay, let's do it, because I don't do press these days.
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.440
Um my phone is uh full of no not available.
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:52.480
Sorry guys.
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.679
Like I'm busy with you know with raising kids, doing my golf and all that.
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:02.719
Um so but yeah, the the will you be watching Sunday?
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:03.679
Will you be watching Sunday?
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.719
Special, but yeah, I will make sure I watch, of course.
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.519
Yes, just give us a sign off then, Pete.
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:10.400
Just give us a sign off.
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:13.440
Okay.
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.360
The the perfect one, the perfect, okay.
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:18.559
And the three.
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:20.480
Thank you, Peter.
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:20.719
Thank you.
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:22.639
No problem, pleasure to speak to you.
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.760
Good luck with your new adventure with the work.
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.159
Yeah, thank you very much indeed, Pete.
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:29.119
No problem.
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:30.639
See you soon.
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Okay, so welcome to uh Full Throssles sixth episode and we are building up to Sunday's Black Country Derby and there was only one person on my list to speak to uh this week and I'm really really delighted to say I've managed to get Peter Oddenwingy off the golf course and uh into uh his uh studio to talk to us about uh wolves against the baggies.
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Um so Peter, thank you for joining.
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How are you?
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How are you feeling?
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How are you doing?
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I'm good, I'm good, thank you.
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So um I played golf actually today in a golf day um in Ivesham at the Vale, and one of my playing partners was a West Brom fan, and uh I don't believe in coincidences, so I had three birdies today, and uh when I missed the pot for the fourth, we did.
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I said to him, you know what?
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I prefer to have a to it.
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Sounds more like uh hat trick is better than four.
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He goes, I agree with that totally.
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So we had a little laugh, we took a picture as usual.
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He said, Can you do the three?
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And he said he has a few Wolf friends to show this to.
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So, so long as their friendship continues, uh, I said, You can of course show him that photo.
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Brilliant, Peter.
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I I guess you know, we'll we'll talk a little bit about the the build-up to to that particular derby.
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It came in your second season at the club.
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Um and uh it's something you'll never ever be forgotten.
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You you uh and you will never ever get bored of talking about it, I guess.
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No, of course.
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It's one of my the biggest days for me in uh club football.
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So I've scored a hat-trick in Lille versus Lance in France, it's a northern derby.
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They have a history as well, going all the way back.
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Um I've scored in the Moscow derbies.
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Um so and uh the one West Brom Wolves is uh is different because uh 80th birthday of Lille was celebrated uh two years ago now.
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I was there.
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Some people talk about that day, the hat trick they remember.
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But uh the one when West Brom fans talk about this one, it there's more to it.
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So it's obvious to me that it's the biggest one I've played in, the biggest hat trick.
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Obviously, it was my only hat trick in Premier League anyway, it's precious, but because it was um yeah, in a game that meant uh so much for Baggies fans, and uh and we always have a smile and a laugh about it.
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I have many friends that are Wolves fans, they you know they tell me off, and you know, but we have to do our jobs, right?
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We have to, yeah, amazing, amazing, Peter.
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And and it wasn't your first goal against Wolves that season because you scored in the home game.
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Uh in the first that was your first goal against Wolves, wasn't it?
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Yes, so I came back um earlier, so that game against Wolf actually cost me eight months of international football because I told my coach in Nigeria saying we have a game against wolves coming this weekend.
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I was nursing a slight muscle injury, so I only played 20 minutes in the game against Ethiopia.
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So I asked him if I can go back and have a full week uh with the physios and prepare for the wolves game.
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This is the home game.
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This is the home game, yeah.
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The home game, the one I scored the second goal from Sharna's super back hill pass.
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So um, uh but my coach wasn't letting me go, but I still went to the secretary of Nigerian Federation.
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I said he should give me my passport.
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So give me my passport.
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I had a flight ticket already going, but I didn't tell the coach that before the match, the official match, all we needed to do is win that match against Ethiopia, and we needed a four-goal average, and we won 4-0, so everything was perfect.
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But in the midweek, we had a game against against Kenya, and it didn't really mean much to us.
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We had 25 players in this in the camp, we had even the reserves, like the Nigerian-based, home-based uh Super Eagles as well.
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So there was enough players to play that game, so I uh I preferred to go back, knowing how sometimes with injuries Roy can be.
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So, anyway, I fly back and the I annoy the coach of the national team.
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But when I scored the second goal, the uh Jerome Thomas was the first guy to embrace me.
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He goes, You're vindicated, like I'm so happy for you.
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Because he already knew the articles that from Nigeria were coming that I'm in trouble with this coach, that I left the camp without his permission, and all of that.
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So I was somehow vindicated um on that match, and the goal felt very special.
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But I always also say my dad made me work hard as a kid on my left foot.
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So any goal I score with my left foot, I always say, you know, listen to your to your parents' kids, you know, because if not, my career wouldn't have been as good as it was, because I'm properly two-footed, and against wolves I've scored uh but with both feet, the right, the right, the left.
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So um only a header missing.
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That's fantastic, Praise.
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But I'll just I'll just I'll come back to the wolves uh uh games in in a in in a in a moment.
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But I just want to yeah, because you you joined uh Roberto Di Matteo signed you, and uh I think you scored your first goal uh against Sunland, your debut with a right foot.
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It was a right foot, I think.
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You it was the right foot, yeah, it was.
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Yeah, so you remember that that you remember that the debut goal.
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I can never forget that day, my first Premier League match, my first goal, my first victory.
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And uh, you know, luckily it was the first home game of the season, so you see the uh you can feel it, you know.
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I could feel it before the game, uh during the warm-up, you know, that is the first game of the season.
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You can feel those vibes as we're doing all those our warm-ups that you know people have missed football uh over the summer.
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Um, yeah, I was given uh uh the chance to start the game, which surprised me as well.
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Uh, but yeah, uh I just said yeah, new team, new teammates.
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There's not much understanding between us, but that goal, uh, the way we scored it, it looked like we've played uh with each other for a long time.
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So James Morrison uh he put the ball exactly where I wanted it, how I made the call for it.
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So and yeah, it was a great start.
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Of course, that day was as important as any other day for me with Westbrook.
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Fantastic.
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And and and really lovely you've mentioned James Morrison there because obviously he's gonna be he's made such a lovely start to his uh to his his time, and he's gonna be in charge of his first black country derby on derby.
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Yeah, and I just remember the yeah, my third goal.
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He assisted my third goal as well.
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He did.
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There's a there's a famous photograph of him standing behind the goal, isn't there?
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Behind the goal, yeah.
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That's right.
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That was funny.
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Yeah, amazing.
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So you scored 15 goals that season, Peter.
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It was beyond your wildest dreams, surely that kind of first season.
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Oh, of course, yeah, of course.
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When I bumped into my former coach in Lokomotive Moscow on a trip to Spain that summer, he looked, he was like, uh, you shook my hand, he was like, Um, yeah, he said this is a really great achievement.
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So um, yeah, it was uh I was probably surprised a bit because that was my highest season.
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14 in France for Lille was my highest before that, so that was a record-breaking season.
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But later, when I looked at the stats, I realized that I assisted quite a few, I earned a few penalties.
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So these are also things that um seven assists, seven assists are that the number, yeah.
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So those things are important because uh I didn't pay attention to that during my career, but later when I started uh seeing people are saying about assists and um and uh other things, you know, contributions.
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I'm like, oh yeah, that's actually you know also important.
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Um, so yeah, uh first season was fantastic, just one moment of injury after Bolton game, right?
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Um you cannot talk about my time in West Brom without mentioning injuries because there were a few times I had injuries, um and my biggest fallout with the club uh manager came because of injuries.
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So Roy was always uh they're desperate.
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He wanted me available for every game, but a few times it was literally impossible.
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So for yeah, I don't know, because the start of your second season when Roy I obviously coincided with Roy taking over from Roberto, so it was frustrating for you that the start of the second season, right?
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Yes, yes, but um Roy went too far.
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He was saying uh I didn't take part in pre-season friendlies and these for but he that's his decision.
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I was fit training every preseason training, didn't miss any, and then he goes later complaining that he didn't take part in pre-season friendlies, but he just didn't play me because he wanted to uh like uh keep me fit or protect me from whatever.
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But when I'm available to play, I'm like any other player.
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Uh nobody needs to protect me.
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I'm an aggressive striker, I fight against big defenders, like I'm not some soft guy on the pitch, you know.
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Players know this, but he talked to me like I'm some kid that just started football yesterday.
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But I'm fully international.
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I've played in two World Cups before coming to West Brom, so it used to annoy me.
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I'm full of passion for football, as well as Roy is, you know.
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At that time, I all I could do is say, Man, this guy, you know, and then I just wait to get fit, and then when I'm fit, I I play with all my heart.
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All people know me in every country I've played that once I'm on the pitch, I will leave nothing there as much as I can.
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You know, I wasn't the best player in the world, but I'll make sure I make enough runs and cause problems and play with all my heart.
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So um, but yeah, the the the few slow moments, um, then I pick up.
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Uh you know, did you have cross words with Roy, man to man, face to face, or was it not?
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But that's the thing, you know.
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The time after the second interview, you know, a lot of people don't understand this.
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Um, when you are honest with your job, that time when Roy used to do those interviews.
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I was a guy on Twitter.
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I have uh Twitter that time, I had not sure Instagram, but anyway, Twitter was the main one, and I get hammered by people, you know.
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You never know, they could have been Wolves fans, probably were getting into the or necessary abuse, and it used to, and then it piled up at some point.
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It got too much.
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I'm like, nah.
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So coupled with a bit of a fallout with a few players, and uh after the second season, I asked Dan Ash would say I need I I really I said that I don't feel like how I should uh on a daily basis here, and my head's gone.
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So, but although but in general, though, the time with West Brom was fantastic, it was amazing.
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Um, it was fantastic, just like a bit of a bitterness.
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It's like last time I was at the Hawthorns, um, I went through the whole of East Stand all the way down, walked around the Bromie end, only hugs and high fives, and all perfect.
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And I'm so high.
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And then as I'm about to give the interview to uh to um to the club media, you know, standing in front of the whole uh stadium.
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Somebody from uh I even know the guy, Neil, like who does our golf days.
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He shouts from the stand something about QPR, and it just drains me again.
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So we're back to square one, and you know, and last year I would nearly squared up with a guy.
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Uh maybe he was a bit tipsy or drunk, but the big picture is amazing, you know.
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I like I'm there happily at the hot ones.
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It's my family, you know, my first British family that I cherish a lot, but there will still be that something little that will just spoil it.
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But today I was driving and I was laughing.
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I said, But West Brom fans, we they say Boing Boeing, right?
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It's ups and downs, back for back for good and bad.
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So my life has been like that.
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So some days I just take it in a good state, but some days it just it just annoys me.
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But so most times, all good, like today on the golf course with the West Brom fan.
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Last week I played with one as well at the Forest of Arden.
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It was just so good to see him happy.
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Like he was asking these questions about people, Paul Sharna and these guys, and they are so like you can see the excitement in their eyes when I talk about some of the players, have yeah, just little little stories.
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So, in general, of course, um uh my time at West Brom was very bright, it was very boring indeed with your with your times and your careers, and the life of a strike striker is boing boeing.
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I guess so you're a bright club.
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That's actually also a positional thing.
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That's true.
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That's true, it's a positional thing because I don't see any uh manager being so desperate for a midfielder because you know they can they are kind of they can replace someone and do a job, but if there are no strikers are precious, a precious commodity, yes, yes.
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So but so you so October you score in the 2-0.
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Uh do you remember much about the build-up to the game at Molyneux in February, Peter?
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Do you remember much about that?
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Uh the build-up, or you obviously you you know the game itself, but what how you were feeling and what the what you you know the whole thing was kind of.
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Oh, well, we're quite uh how were you aware?
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Were you made aware of how important the game was?
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You you knew how important the game was.
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Yeah, yeah, because there's always reminders from what I remember.
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We always had a target when Roy speaks, because when he took over, it was like a uh February on the first season, so we were not safe yet when he took over.
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So that target, we have to meet the target.
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But as soon as we meet the target, we're all hungry for more because we there's momentum going.
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So before that game, I think we were doing okay, and um there was good momentum.
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I remember before the game feeling very good, before the Wolves game, and in the warm-up, there was some lightness about my movement, and I was like, I was just feeling good, I was happy.
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I was just in the warm-up saying, This doesn't feel like a derby to me, this just feels like a happy day.
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Like um, I'm just happy uh footballer to play a Premier League match.
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I know it's derby, there's buzz about it, but I didn't feel like some uh I felt light.
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So um Roy even joked uh on on much of the day after saying whatever Peter did last night, uh he should keep doing that so that if he can if he can perform like this.
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So yeah, I had a laugh about that.
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So but there was nothing nothing uh super special about the preparation, uh just as the usual thing.
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Um, you know, the shape work on in the training with what Roy always did.
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But obviously he had uh he had he had the gift of having the right words, finding the right words um to you know to push players, and so yeah.
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It's amazing because I'm just talking back, Peter, you hadn't scored in four or five games before that game, and so you know you you you but then you turn up on the day and you you remember feeling this lightness and this it's do you sometimes feel this is this is my day?
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Is it because of the feeling that day I felt good, I don't know why, but I felt uh yeah, I felt I didn't feel intimidated.
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It's an away game, Derby, but for some reason I felt uh light.
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So um, but I didn't even know that I haven't scored for so many goals because when I came back from one that season after this knee injury that I had to post on Twitter my swollen knee, but I was already in full training with that knee, you know.
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Uh, but I came back, I scored against Blackburn last minute.
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Uh then after that I scored against Newcastle, I think, away where Sharna scored the late uh winner uh 4-3 with one.
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I didn't know that it's been long since I scored.
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Yeah, so you in a little for you that was quite a little uh I don't know run without goals.
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Right, dry, dry spell, but then it all changed in the 34th minute of the game at Molyneux, and I think you collected the ball and cut in from the right, didn't you?
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Yeah, my my usual moves that I'm doing to my left foot.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I can teach young boys what that means because because I was quick.
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If um defenders show showed me to the right, I will run to the right and put a cross in.
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And uh, if they show me one side too much, I will go there.
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So that was the advantage of being two-footed.
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So I always give my dad the credit for that since I was a kid.
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He emphasized that I do this, so um, yeah.
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Um, I remember that goal, like you know, because I've seen it so many times, Stephen Reed making the the overlapping run, which is also taking attention uh from defender going there.
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So a bit of combination play there.
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So um Leader.
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And then we'll we're leading, we're uh we're leading 2-1 and 77 minutes, and uh, I think it's a James Morrison corner that's not properly that's not properly cleared.
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Yes, and uh and then I think Liam Ridgewell manages to get a little a little involvement and you and you and you're there, you're there, you know.
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Uh it was uh Jonas.
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He was also okay.
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Was it Yonas?
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Okay, yeah, a little back hill with uh okay.
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Uh if you really think about it, I don't know what he was trying to do there.
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I don't know what he said.
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That's that's that's a clear that's clever, that's clever from Jonas.
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Yeah, so he thought, you know, he I don't know what he was trying to do because if there was none of our players there, doing that means they can just clear the ball.
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But um, I was just there waiting to pounce on anything, second ball that drops, and like I I just need to send it in uh in the direction of the goal, as we say.
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And on a I did like a golf turn, so no one I play good golf now because I had to turn have a full turn, the full turn exactly.
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So um, yeah, and again, it's still the left foot.
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I always tell young ones that sometimes it's not about shooting hard, just work on that weak foot as much as you can for little things, you know.
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So I tell that to my youngest son as well these days, so yeah, that's not my standard type of goals because I'm a runner and a shooter, but I'm really happy that on a day like this I could score goals that are unlikely for me.
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So when you when a striker gets two goals, what's going through their mind?
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What's going through their minds?
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And the the game's going well now.
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You you made you made it 3-1, it's 4-1.
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You know, is it are you that obsessed that you want the hat trick?
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Is that is that the I didn't even think about it.
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I was not greedy at all for more glory, I was just done.
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That was me kind of done for the day.
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Um, I'm I'm saying that's me, guys.
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I'm more than happy here.
00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:18.079
But yeah, I always tell people that Coxy, Simon Cox came to me and said to me, Hey, go get the third, like score hat trick today.
00:20:18.880 --> 00:20:25.680
So I wouldn't forget this because he came to said to me, he said, go complete, get make sure you do a hat trick.
00:20:25.839 --> 00:20:30.480
And then the moment I was like, Oh, yeah, that's true, it could be even better than than than that.
00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:35.599
So then obviously, I'm still in the game and the opportunity comes, I score it.
00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:39.039
But probably if we had a penalty, they would have let me take it.
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:47.200
So but yeah, it wasn't a penalty, so I think I think I think James, I think Maz was involved in that one as well, really, wasn't he?
00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:49.440
Yeah, so good timing, good timing.
00:20:49.599 --> 00:21:05.599
I uh timed my run as well, so there was good understanding between us again there because I could run to the first post or forward of the defender, but I stopped so the gap opens between me uh uh and the defender so that uh Moza could pass it through that gap.
00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:08.480
So when I stopped, is when I created that gap.
00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:16.720
And the moment I created the gap, I could see his head was up and he saw it, and then he had to put the exact weight of pass that I needed.
00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:22.000
So I finished it and the the defender not to intercept it, so and he did it well again.
00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:40.799
So um, and yeah, uh I could it that moment felt so longer than it is because I hit the ball not to not to drag it wide, I made sure I kind of hit the target, and I remember uh keep a lane kind of trying to jab it safe, and the keeper nearly saved it, but it still went in.
00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:43.519
So what is meant to be will always be.
00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:53.039
So um sometimes I guess sometimes not making a run and just stopping is is is better than making a run, isn't it?
00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:54.799
No, we call it the double run.
00:21:54.880 --> 00:22:01.680
I first made the run that he the defender will think that you're gonna continue the Run at that pace, yeah.
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:09.519
So when I change pace, that means I stop, which means he's still going because I decided to stop, so he has to react to my move.
00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:13.119
So it's not that I wasn't moving, I moved.
00:22:13.200 --> 00:22:16.160
I is it called a double run or a dummy run.
00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:18.240
So in English, yeah.
00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:24.319
So um, yeah, that's how you just create a little bit of a gap where they can find you with the past.
00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:32.079
So and and it creates and it creates your hat trick, and so in forevermore in the record books, there it is.
00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:33.039
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:34.000
I joke about it.
00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:35.519
I say it's forever, of course.
00:22:35.599 --> 00:22:40.880
You know, I tell them when we are in heaven, we will be still appreciating.
00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:46.000
I'll be playing guitar and we can be singing songs about you have the match ball.
00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:47.119
Do you still have the match ball?
00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:48.720
Do you remember looking after the match ball?
00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.480
Treasury guy that I played golf with today asked me about it.
00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:58.160
Um I said uh I you might not believe it, I said, but I gave it away.
00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:05.519
Um, so uh they were uh uh is it I forgot the name now just jumped out of my head.
00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:11.920
Um I have a friend at West Brom Fund, she was uh doing a fundraiser uh with Darren Moore.
00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:18.559
They were going to Kenya to do some job for Albion Foundation and charity to some kids, you know.
00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:20.720
Um, so some poor kids.
00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:23.519
And she asked for a few things like what I could donate.
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:35.119
So a few times before that, I gave them like a pair of boots, then some shirt, but then the second time they were going, like I didn't have much that time, but because of their effort, I was impressed.
00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:40.880
You know, it's so nice to see people concerned, and they're gonna travel all the way to Kenya to do a bit.
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:45.759
So um uh I said, You can have you know, you can have the ball.
00:23:45.920 --> 00:23:48.400
I was curious to see how much that could raise.
00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:50.079
So I said, I'm gonna give it to you.
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:56.400
She came to my golf club to ask Tonwood to take it, and when I was passing the ball to her, she looked at me, said Peter, are you sure?
00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:58.000
I said, Yeah, I'm sure.
00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:05.039
I said, Um, I think a baggy fan that will buy it on your auction will even appreciate it probably more than me.
00:24:05.200 --> 00:24:11.039
And in my head, I'm like, they're gonna pass it on to each other, you know, to their friends, to have it in their houses.
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:20.960
So I thought the ball will do a bit more than just lying in my in the bag with my jerseys and the rest, not even being fully pumped, because I'm not gonna kick that ball around.
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:30.000
So I said, well, let the ball like just go around with its energy and uh do like if you raise money that pay your ticket or your flights.
00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:31.839
That's for me, it's good enough.
00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.960
And I told her though one day I might want to buy it back.
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:43.759
So I said, when I'm ready to buy it back, I will announce on uh I'll announce on social media and they will find that ball for me.
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:46.400
They will give it to the rightful owner.
00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.160
Yeah, that's good.
00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.160
So do you remember uh do you remember Roy's reaction after the game?
00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:54.000
Do you remember him saying too much to you?
00:24:54.160 --> 00:25:02.880
Or no, I was going around take collecting uh collecting signatures from players because um I don't know whose idea it was.
00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:06.559
Somebody told me, like, get everybody to sign the ball, you know.
00:25:06.720 --> 00:25:11.599
So as I walked in, I just took a pen and I went around to get players to sign and write some things.
00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:14.799
A few boys wrote some nice stuff from high to lows.
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:28.240
So I think it was Cox's wrote from high to lows or something like that to do with the ups and downs of uh of life because maybe we did yeah, maybe we did remember that I haven't scored for a while, and then suddenly I score.
00:25:28.480 --> 00:25:33.599
So, you know, um strikers, yeah, sometimes we go to those moments.
00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:46.079
Um, and I started collecting signatures and just people were writing a few bits and bops on on the ball, so I don't remember now what Roy was saying, but you could feel the buzz as every player was signing the the ball.
00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:53.200
You could just feel each player's buzz that time as I was walking around because yeah, it's three big points for us for sure.
00:25:53.359 --> 00:25:54.400
We saw the reaction.
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.039
It's more that it's more than three points, Pete.
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.920
No, I know how the we could see it from the pitch.
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:08.240
We were watching how the fans were celebrating, and it was obvious that like they couldn't believe what was happening, and they were really happy.
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:18.000
So I still meet people who sometimes say, you know, I was there at the Moligneux that day, um, but you know, some of them were even quite, they will be have to be young, you know.
00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:23.039
So it's tell me Pete, did you tell me about it's a memorable day, yeah.
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:33.200
Yeah, tell me, did you uh think that Moz would one day become a manager, a coach?
00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:34.720
Did you see anything in him?
00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:37.359
The intelligence or the you know that that would be a good idea.
00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:46.240
No, I never I never thought about uh any of my teammates becoming coaches in my playing days, uh, because you don't know, you just don't know.
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.440
Um uh thinking about it.
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:58.720
No, I only started paying attention to this kind of things maybe in recent years, because now I start to think about one of my teammates, Dante.
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.200
He's now in a coaching in like a reserve team of Bayern Munich.
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:11.359
So you can see some players like had that leadership, that thing that they want to they want to do more than just being a footballer on the pitch.
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:22.400
So yeah, looking back at it, um, I wouldn't have said Moser will be a coach because he's not an extrovert, he's not uh a man of many words, so he never was.
00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:31.680
So um, yeah, I I wouldn't have thought he will be a coach, maybe Brenty Moore or uh Stephen Reed, guys who like are vocal.
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:35.519
He was never really vocal, I would from what I remember.
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:38.160
So um, yeah, that's what people say.
00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:40.000
Obviously, Chris is involved.
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:44.400
Chris is involved in the loans, I think, with uh yeah, in the next prompt, yeah.
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:45.200
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:49.680
But obviously, as a midfielder, um was uh was a clever midfielder.
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:54.640
So the the assists he gave me they are assists of guys who think, you know.
00:27:54.720 --> 00:28:01.759
Yeah, so if I make a run and I do something and I expect you to I expect you to see it, what I want.
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:06.400
Sometimes we used to point a finger where we want the ball and stuff, but some players know.
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:08.799
Brunty also as a player had that.
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:14.000
Um, you know, on the first Wolves game, obviously Paul Sharner had that.
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.559
He knew exactly what where I wanted the ball before back killing it to me.
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.640
You know, we had uh Yusuf a few times put me through.
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:24.799
I you know, I was uh lucky.
00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:30.480
Um uh Jerome Thomas sometimes will slide me in, a few nice assists.
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:34.240
Um we had uh we had Yusuf Malumbe.
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:35.440
We loved Malumbu.
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:36.880
We loved Malumbu, didn't we?
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.319
I have enough supply.
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:40.079
I had enough supply, you know.
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:42.319
Yeah, I had the passes coming in.
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.160
So do you follow them now, Pete?
00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:49.680
You are obviously aware of how well they've started this season under under under under under Morrison.
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:51.839
It's very there's a lot of optimism.
00:28:51.920 --> 00:29:00.559
I think there's a lot of smiles because of the way they're playing and they're they're fighting for each other, and it seems like there's a really good energy there.
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:01.440
Are you are you aware?
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:02.799
Do you stay in touch with people?
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.079
You know, if you uh you just said the word energy.
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:12.160
I just told um I just told the guy I played with today that that is so important in modern football.
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:24.000
So uh energy is so important to have the fitness and be hungry for like a good day at work, like match days are the best days for any footballer.
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:36.160
So um, yeah, having that energy is very important to add to your to your skills, and um, you know, so yeah, I'm aware they started well.
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:39.279
So um, a few quality players.
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:41.039
I watched a few games last year.
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:47.119
Some of the players I rated them, even when they were slamming them after the 2-0 against Coventry.
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:48.960
Everybody remembered John Homer.
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:49.599
I was walking.
00:29:49.680 --> 00:29:50.160
I said no.
00:29:50.319 --> 00:29:53.839
I said, I'm impressed even with the defense, as much as this we lost 2-0.
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:58.000
I said, No, I saw some things there that are quality, you know.
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.839
Can't just say they played against one of the best teams in the division.
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:06.240
But I said I saw more, like this squad as it is, it can do more.
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:11.599
But they were going losing game after game, so and I did mention positional discipline.
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:24.400
I'm like, I said, in our days, you know, when they put you in a position, you just stay there and play in your position, you know, not too much running about, but there was a bit too much, um, maybe eagerness or young players.
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:30.160
But later on, obviously, uh, yeah, Mosa came in and uh, you know, the simple.
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:42.079
It's interesting you say that because while he he wants to encourage uh a really nice style of play, passing football, he also really I think is very disciplined.
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.400
I think he wants he wants that.
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:47.359
He demands that yeah, but that's common sense, you know.
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:49.039
We still need to be realistic.
00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:52.400
There are no big like big names in the team as a young squad.
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.920
You that's the basics, that's minimum you will do is discipline.
00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:05.279
So if you if you had players like uh big players on the ball that can do make a difference by themselves, then yeah, you can let them sometimes freedom.
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:15.119
But at the moment we don't have players that like you know I can decide games, uh just two or three of them can just do a magic and get the ball in the net.
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.240
So um, but yeah, there's a lot of talent there.
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.240
Um, so uh it's a long season, you know.
00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:32.640
Um, a lot of this is obviously to do with um communication, keeping everybody fit, you know, keeping players happy.
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:34.079
But that's part of football.
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:38.880
Uh Mosa is aware, you know, he has to make sure everybody's happy.
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:43.119
You have uh four strikers, you have uh I don't know, number of midfielders.
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:47.759
Yeah, you need to get everybody involved so they are fit as well and happy.
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.799
So hopefully, yeah, we have a good season.
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.680
Just two years ago, things looked really bad.
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:57.839
Oh uh, they were selling the club, uh, losing the stadium nearly.
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:07.839
So yeah, um, I remember with my kids, uh we even had a little prayer in Frankie and Dennis when the threat was even to lose the stadium.
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:12.000
I said, guys, let's have a little prayer here for West Brom.
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.240
No, the fears the fears were real, right?
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:17.039
The fears were real.
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:31.839
No, I I actually because I spoke to someone that explained to me a bit more the situation, and I said, Oh, it's even that bad that they were like they had to like even the stadium could be going because of that and whatever.
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.720
So it's some West Brom fan explained to me a bit.
00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:46.240
Oh, I read it or somewhere on either on Facebook or somewhere, but I was like, No chance, you know, because this affects all of us because we get a bit still, you know.
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:56.240
When West Brom is doing well, we get remembered, we get invites to the games, to the games, and uh we still benefit from whatever our past clubs do.
00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:58.880
Uh it still rubs off on us, still.
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.359
So um, yeah, we can't do that.
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:11.279
I've heard I've heard one or two people say, more than one or two people say this season, it feels like we've got our club back.
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:13.920
Um, well, I don't know.
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.079
That's what fans feel, that's what fans are feeling.
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:19.279
I see, I see.
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:25.680
Yes, because last season fans were complaining about commitment of players, like uh not giving enough.
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:28.720
But I haven't watched any game this season, just highlights.
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:37.359
But if I was to watch 90 minutes, maybe I have a more idea of how fit the team is and how you know how they are running.
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:40.000
But it's good to hear that, it's good to hear that.
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:58.079
Um uh I'm not gonna be often at the Hawthorns, but uh, I'm watching the um Blackburn game, and maybe at some point in the season one more, yeah, one more, and then I do my usual stuff with the Richardson Sweet.
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:10.960
Yeah, because you know I I will always still make sure I uh I the fans know that all my drama, all these things that happen is not to do with anything to do with the fans, yeah.
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:17.920
It's all to do with individuals inside the club with whom I had uh uh uh bad relationships.
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:24.880
So and um that's unfortunately it's uh it's football, is you're dealing with many people, you know.
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:34.559
It's a 25-man squad, there is there are coaches, about four of them, there is uh the hierarchy in the club, and sometimes people just don't get along.
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:39.280
So that was my case, and unfortunately, but it is what it is.
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:46.960
But um, fans don't know things that we know, and uh they only react to what they see in the press.
00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.239
Yeah, and in my time there was not a lot of good press.
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.119
Sometimes they see really bad stuff and they react to it.
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.920
So sometimes I understand, but it's still annoying.
00:34:56.079 --> 00:35:14.000
And as a person, I would like to defend my my um my position also, and sometimes uh you know, when you're frustrated and you feel like they're not listening and they don't want to hear you, uh you then maybe over overdo it, you know.
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:17.760
So because you want to make sure you you are heard.
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:25.599
Let's let's uh that sounds like the subject for a second podcast, maybe at some other point in the season.
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:27.519
Uh you you never know.
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:28.079
One day.
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:29.360
One day.
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:32.880
This is just uh it's been fantastic to talk to you, Pete.
00:35:32.960 --> 00:35:38.159
I'm really, really, uh I'm really really tough to be able to do this in this particular week.
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:39.519
Because there is no way.
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:47.039
I think that was the that's probably the main reason I said okay, let's do it, because I don't do press these days.
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.440
Um my phone is uh full of no not available.
00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:52.480
Sorry guys.
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:57.679
Like I'm busy with you know with raising kids, doing my golf and all that.
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:02.719
Um so but yeah, the the will you be watching Sunday?
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:03.679
Will you be watching Sunday?
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:06.719
Special, but yeah, I will make sure I watch, of course.
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.519
Yes, just give us a sign off then, Pete.
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:10.400
Just give us a sign off.
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:13.440
Okay.
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.360
The the perfect one, the perfect, okay.
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:18.559
And the three.
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:20.480
Thank you, Peter.
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:20.719
Thank you.
00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:22.639
No problem, pleasure to speak to you.
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.760
Good luck with your new adventure with the work.
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:28.159
Yeah, thank you very much indeed, Pete.
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:29.119
No problem.
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:30.639
See you soon.