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Stop listening.
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Do not keep listening.
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We told you, and you've been warned.
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Illegal.
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You know this already.
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If you choose, if we see any streams on this episode.
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You know what's coming.
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You know what's gonna happen.
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And there's nothing you can do about it.
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I just ate a smoosh ball.
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Was it yummy?
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Mm.
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Smooshy.
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They are quite smooshy.
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I like these smooths.
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I just ate these broccoli puffs that you wanna introduce me to.
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Fucked up.
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Amazing stuff.
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Fucked up.
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But I like these smooshed balls because I because there are things in here that I don't like.
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Like almonds, yuck.
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Um cashews, yuck, peanuts, yuck.
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So you don't like nuts?
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I don't like nuts at all.
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How do you get first, guys?
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I don't like nuts, but I can't taste the nuts in these, so it makes me eat nuts.
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Okay.
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But also I just like the taste of them.
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Because they taste like chocolate.
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Chocolate.
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Chocolate.
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Um, so as the last episode ended, we must now ask ourselves what our relationship with Instagram is and what would we like it to be?
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Um, as promised.
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Yeah.
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Shall I go first?
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You may.
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Um, my my relationship with Instagram is a weird one, and it's one I've been trying to like work out a healthy balance of because like just want to say.
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Hey, on my phone I have like like like screen time restrictions set up, but I don't use like the Apple screen time because that just like is really easy to bypass.
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I use an app called Opal, which is very good.
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I had Opal and then I lost my phone and now I'm on one sec.
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Damn.
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One sec.
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It's free.
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Oh nice.
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Yeah, see, I I I got paid for Opal.
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Yeah, because I had Opal and I paid for it.
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Yeah.
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But um, but it's kind of fun because if I want to unlock past my things, I have to like do a puzzle or do a crossword or like just meditate for 60 seconds.
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But um But the thing that's hard about it is is that I use Instagram like for my like booking work.
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Like all my like if you didn't know, I work as a freelance videographer whilst I'm not singing and dancing on stage.
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So and all my bookings come through Instagram.
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So I kinda need to have Instagram on the ready, so if a client goes, Hey, can you do this?
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I can go, Yes, I can, in a in a timely manner.
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And so like it's hard to like, because obviously, like I could just go onto Instagram, look at the messages, and then get off.
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But that's hard when suddenly I'm on reels and then I've been scrolling for 30 minutes and I go, How did I get here?
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I didn't cause I you just because you just go you go on and you go, Oh, let me just do a little scroll, see what's happening.
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And then you click on someone's video and then you just keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and then you're like oh and I've tried to implement things like I've tried to implement things like if I've used up because I set myself an hour on Instagram per day, and if I get to that hour, then I check messages on my computer for Instagram.
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Do I do that?
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No.
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If I'm at my desk I do, but if I'm just on my phone sorting out works, I'll sometimes I'm just like, oh let me just bypass it so I can check if there's anything, any messages, and then I just keep doing that.
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But um so yeah, but it's definitely gotten better.
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Like my screen time's better than it used to be, and like I'm not so like I am a bit at the moment I'm a bit relaxed with just unlocking my screen time because I could just be like, no, I don't need to, but then I do, and I just play the fun puzzle, you know what I mean?
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Or I do times tables, which is the one I like the most because that actually challenges me.
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But um where do you want it to be?
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I want to just like I I wanna be able to just like go on, scroll for a bit, see what my friends are doing, and then go, okay, cool, I'm gonna head off.
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You know what I mean?
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And ideally, work things are done on my computer.
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So if I'm messaging for work, I'd do that on my computer so it feels like a work thing, not a recreational thing.
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But um, do you know what I also want to do?
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This is just with my phone.
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You can buy this little like adapter thing, which no, let him hear the crunch.
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Let him hear it.
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Nummy crunchy.
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Um you can get you can buy this like adapter thing, which you hook up to like a physical no, which you hook up to like a physical phone.
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And so if you get a phone call on your phone, it'll ring the physical phone.
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What?
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Yeah.
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It makes like it makes your like old like rotary phone thing like connect to your phone via Bluetooth.
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So if you get a call, it rings the physical phone.
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You can pick up the physical phone and have a conversation on the physical phone.
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Whoa.
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And it's just this like adapter you buy, which you plug into the phone, which plugs into a wall, and it just makes it like so your fat phone's connected by Bluetooth.
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Oh my god, we can go back.
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Yeah.
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I also saw this video yesterday of this, like, um, she has she's implemented this thing called a landline system.
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And pretty much how it works is just she just has this little stand in her counter.
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No, everyone like on her landline.
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Don't you have a home landline?
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Hmm?
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Don't you have a home landline?
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We do have a home landline, and it's only used for the purposes of um talking to grandparents.
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My grand my grand my grandpa my my nanny, in fact, who lives in Wales.
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But um, but it's like a system she uses where she has this little like stand thing that goes on the wall, and when she's at home, that's where her phone lives.
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So if she wants her phone.
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Yep, just her actual phone.
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So if she wants to check her phone, she has to go over there, pick up the phone, do the things, and then it wants to.
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Like it's like it's like live it lives on the wall, that's its home.
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Oh, if she's in the house, it just like like for example, it's like if it's like if I just said my phone's just gonna live on that table there whilst I'm at home.
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Yeah.
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And if I want to use it, I've got to go over there, do the things, and then once I'm done with it, put it down and live life.
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See, because in my brain I was like, oh, I can't, I just want to do that with my sleep, but then my alarm.
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I could just get a freaking alarm clock.
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That's what I got.
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I got that's that was one dollar.
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That was one dollar for IKEA.
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The thing is though, I want to set multiple alarms all at once.
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Hmm.
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You I fear that's no time awareness.
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I fear that's hard to do with a maybe I'm just making a screen.
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Maybe you just need multiple alarm clocks.
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Wait, I could how much was that?
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This that was one dollar.
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Oh my god, so if I bought three, yeah.
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Oh my god!
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You can set up three separate alarms.
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Oh my god, okay.
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Yeah.
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Cause then I can have my phone and my laptop outside my iPad outside of my room.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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This is good.
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Yeah.
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But I think that's cool because it's like she still has her phone, but she's just like when she's at home, she doesn't feel this like weird attachment to it.
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You know?
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I used I can be so good at it, and then I can be so bad.
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It's hard.
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Because it's it's so hard as well because it feels like our phones are so needed because they just that's how we get do everything.
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You know what I mean?
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Like.
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But not necessarily like I've been through phases where like I'm I'm already pretty good at not being on my phone in general.
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Like the only apps I have really are like The Necessities, Spotify, and Finch.
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Finch! Finch!
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Oh my god, I've not ch I've not done anything.
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We love Finch.
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Um, which I had to start again because I lost my phone.
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What's your Finch's name?
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Lulu.
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Nice.
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Lulu, my little Finch.
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Um mine's Burb the Thing.
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Like Uber, and I don't even have Instagram, I use it on Safari.
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And if you see me on Instagram posting, that's on my laptop, unless I've downloaded it on my phone.
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Um upload from your iPad?
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I can.
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I'm uploading my iPad for my stories.
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Yeah.
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Um Yeah, it's a real love-hate relationship.
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I hate how much time I I'm like, oh my god, there's so much I want to do.
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Right now I don't have the energy for it because I'm doing eight shows a week, but there's so much I want to do, and I waste my time just on my phone because I'm tired.
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Yeah.
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This morning was actually the first morning in like the past two weeks where I woke up and was like, I'm meditating.
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Nice.
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So that was nice, and I was like, I feel alive again.
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So I can be really human.
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I am human.
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Um because I can be really, really good at it.
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Really good.
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Like you won't find me for a while.
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And then I can be really bad at it.
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Yeah.
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But I think I'm really bad at it when I'm in like a work schedule.
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Because it's so much easier.
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The relationship to like like obviously we need it for work, and I have lost jobs because I wasn't on social media for a hot sec.
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Like I was supposed to be teaching somewhere and then I didn't reply in time because I was off social media and I thought it was secured and uh um but like I think when you're in a show schedule, you're also like maybe it's just me, but I find it so I'm so much more aware of like who's at shows and like external perception of me, and then like I've been pretty good on this contract, but in the past it's like no, let them hear.
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Let them hear, human.
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Oh that wasn't crunchy, that wasn't crunchy.
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That was smooshy.
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Um yeah, you just get like so caught up in the HO week and in the show that like then it becomes oh this person was at the show, blah blah blah blah.
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And then you just get caught kind of like put in that bubble of like Yeah.
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I have been able to do shows and like then um kind of like what's happening in my own life isn't on social media in public, but like also like with the theatre crisis, you also have to like post about the show.
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Yeah, so it's like ah blah so I think I do so much better when I'm not on contract because I'm just like woo! Yeah, no one knows I exist and it's gorgeous.
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Yeah, I know, and that's the thing as well, like it's hard because of our line of work and what we do, there is an importance in some like respect of like having social media and how you present yourself on social media and like a feel like a need and also just a need to like know what's happening all the time 24-7.
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You know what I mean?
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I feel like I don't really care what's happening 24-7.
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But I should actually probably should care a little more.
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But like But like we don't need to know what's happening every second, you know what I mean?
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I just want to find the concept of like curating who you are is so fucking frustrated.
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Oop swearing, oop, oop, oop with that kind of podcast.
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No, it's like we can swear on a podcast.
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It's so frustrating because like as people were like constantly changing and developing into like fixate like for other obviously you can't control how other people perceive you, but like to be dictated by other people based on the things you post is crazy.
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Because like no one should define who and where you shall go and what you shall be.
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And yet we spend time curating an image of ourselves for other people.
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Yeah.
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Because of the work we do.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah.
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It's like our it's like your in our Instagram page.
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Well, because your Instagram or your social media pages are just a performance of yourself.
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I know they're they're not our full self.
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That's what we that's what we want people.
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It's what we're doing.
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And obviously privacy is crucial.
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Yeah.
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Um but and it's a choice to be on social media as well.
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Like I'm very aware this is a decision I've made.
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I'm putting myself in this position.
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Yeah.
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Um But like last night I was going through my Instagram and like stalking myself as we all do, and like cleaning out some shit.
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And I was like, why do why am I doing this?
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Why does it matter?
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Why do I care how other people perceive me?
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I'm tired of that one.
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And then here I am.
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Yeah.
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Succumbing.
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Because that's the thing as well, it's like social media can suck, but also social media can be really cool.
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It's so powerful.
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It can be really cool.
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It's literally like information at your fingertips.
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And we live in a time where like literally all of us, everyone in the world has never been more connected, but also everyone in the world has never been more disconnected because that connect the connection isn't real per se.
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You know what I mean?
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But it means our horizons and how ideas of things can be so broad because we can see things that people from the whole other side of the world had have created and like what they're seeing it though, like you know what I mean.
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And now that AI, oh that's a whole nother thing which we shouldn't enter yet, because we'll just keep talking.
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We could do another episode about that.
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But AI is a whole nother thing.
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That is a whole nother thing.
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It's just it's it's like, oh, I feel like I'm rotting.
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I'm actively watching myself rot as a human being, and I'm yeah, I feel crazy.
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Yeah.
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Anyways.
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Anyway.
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So So, a couple weeks ago.
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We founded.
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We I think we talked about this on on last episode.
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And if there's someone listening to this right now, you know what's coming to you.
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Well, I think no one should know this because you aren't listening.
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You aren't listening.
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No one is listening.
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Wait, let me just check my I got a haircut today, so I'm a bit.
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Haircut, haircut, and sty check.
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I'm always hey, and yes, if you're there last you found out at the same time as Emma that I have a star.
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And it's so annoying.
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Well, it's not it's just like I'm just so aware that it's there.
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And my hey!
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Who is that?
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That's Lucy.
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That's the ghost.
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Lucy, you can come in here.
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Lucy! Lucy! Lucy, come in here.
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Cool.
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All good.
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Ignore us.
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It's okay.
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Okay.
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But um we decided We decided Um We decided to make a film club in which just is us.
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However, I did invite um other people if they were interested to join, and yet I've done nothing about it.
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Um so now that I see you and I hear you, I haven't acted on it.
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Um club, and we uh got we watched the drama in which Because we'd both watched it.
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Uh-huh.
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You watched it way before me.
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Well I watched it.
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Yeah, because I I saw it in cinemas.
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And then I watched it on my cousin's TV, which you didn't agree with because she she watched it illegally.
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Support art, support art.
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Support art, support art.
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Only watch it uh illegally if you don't want to support support the people.
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But then we bought the gun.
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I thought you were about to fart into the microphone.
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Also, me and you and are really open about our bowel and gas um movements, so we are just expect some conversation.
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So if you ever if you ever hear us talking about our bowels, if you ever hear our bowels, just know that this is an open this is an open space for it.
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And let us know about your bowel movements in the comments below.
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We'd love to hear about them.
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Yep, thank you.
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But um we purchased the film ethically, um, and we watched a drama and we did a full analysis of it.
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Ewan had a notepad and wrote nothing.
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I wrote nothing.
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But it was in his brain.
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It was in my brain.
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I did lots of like pause and talk about this.
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A lot of pausing and talking.
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We have, for those who are visually watching multiple pages of the movie being an alpha.
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I realise we haven't I don't think we've actually not done too much physically, but I feel like because there are people that might just be listening to this.
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This is true.
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So if we ever are doing anything physically, we have to do a just for the people that aren't watching.
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Just if you don't know This is what's happening right now.
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But also if you're not watching, do you not want to see us?
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What the hell?
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Come on.
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I get it if you're driving, but like that's silly.
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Do anyway to be safe.
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Don't don't have one point like me when you drive, guys, be safe.
00:16:43.519 --> 00:16:48.480
Anyway, we've we split it into multiple um subtitles.
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We have like main takeaways.
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We wrote some things about the score, the visual effects, some motifs, um then we wrote kind of like each character's analysis um and some other irrelevant notes.
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Um Hey, it's all irrelevant.
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It's all relevant.
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No, it's all relevant, sorry.
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It's all it's all irrelevant.
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What are you talking about?
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Oh so um where should where to start?
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Let's start with some main takeaways.
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Well, like main takeaway.
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I remember I remember watching it for the first time when I watched it in the movie cinema, and I remember just like being like because the movie just starts pretty normally, and then like the bombshell also, wait, spoilers.
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Spoilers the drama Spoilers if you've not watched the drama.
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Don't listen any further, but it shouldn't matter and be listening to the further.
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But once the like the news like the thing drops that um Zendaya planned a school shooting, from that moment, because I remember being like, oh, and then the movie just kept stressing me out like this, and you're just like, what's happening, what's happening?
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Because you're seeing all these people's minds just kind of unfold.
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And that's the first thing I want to bring up, actually.
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Because so obviously they have they're at the wine tasting for the wedding, and they start discussing the things that they've never told anyone before because they play that game.
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And what are the characters?
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There's Emma, Charlie.
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Emma, Charlie, um Rachel and Rachel and Mike.
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So Rachel! So Mike starts with his story where like with his story, and s in that scenario, someone gets hurt, someone is getting attacked.
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Rachel, someone gets locked in a closet, someone is getting like neglected, and like pretty traumatic experience.
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Charlie bullies someone, which takes a big mental load on something.
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And then we get to Emma's, which didn't necessarily affect anyone else because she didn't actually go through with it.
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Nothing happened.
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And once she kind of had that realization, like, became better and became like a gun, like a like a gun act like a activist.
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Like an activist for no guns.
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You know.
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She's the only one that caused no actual harm to people, but gets the worst reaction.
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She was gonna shoot up a school, guys.
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Just saying, you didn't say that.
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She was gonna shoot up a school, but didn't do it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No one's listening to this, so I didn't have to.
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No one's listening, I think your point.
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You don't explain yourself.
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So, and it's so interesting how like the kind of like main takeaway from like that event is just like questioning um like how people accept things or people's ethics um based on beliefs and experiences that happen to you and how that affects the outcome or reality of like something you've done or something you could do.
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Yeah.
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Because that's the thing, if like what's I say, and it because it all depends on what like each person, like what each person's like morals are and what they see as objectively bad, you know?
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Like in my mind, if Emma had gone through with the school shooting, out of the four, that's probably the worst one.
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That's probably the most horrific one.
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But she didn't do it.
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But because she didn't do it, it's like it's still like a crazy thought to have.
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But also it makes you question because also the fact that it's a secret, now it's like unfolding because they're about to get married, so there's like a ticking time bomb going on here.
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It makes them question their own relationship and how much they know each other.
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And like it makes you question who you want in your life, and you're like at what level of commitment are you is your relationship to someone based on what they do and like the ethics of what they do and what they've done?
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Does that like do you have enough grace and forgiveness within yourself to kind of like surpass things that people have done, you know?
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Yeah, because like at the end of the day.
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Because if I was if I was in that if I was on that table, I would be like, what?
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Robert Patterson.
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Robert Robert Patton.
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I can spell.
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Um at the end of the day, if I was at that table, at first I'd be like, Whoa, that's kind of crazy.
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But they didn't do it, so it wouldn't be that crazy.
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But what was crazy is the fact that Rachel reacted the way that she did, which made her look bad.
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Look look worse.
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They all did shitty things.
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Yeah.
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But because of how Rachel reacted and her like Um Yeah, because of how she reacted, it sent like a lot of questioning.
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Yeah.
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Because all the others they all laugh at.
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They're all like, oh my god, that's hilarious.
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What?
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That's crazy, that's fucked up.
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You know, then it gets to Emma's and they're all like
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Yeah.
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It's like how you define how you define something is simply how it is.
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And like they kind of let her define Emma's situation a little bit.
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Because it's also interesting how like because that's pretty heavy stuff to be like, hey, I thought about doing a school shooting, you know.
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Not once did any of them like kind of be like, oh shit, that's hectic.
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Like, what was that like for you?
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You know what I mean?
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Are you okay?
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But they all went to, oh, is she crazy?
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Yeah.
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Because that's then that's then what we see Charlie try work out the whole time.
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And throughout the whole film, which is a thing I loved visually about the film, how a lot of the time it was like We don't know what reality we're in.
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We were seeing like what was real, but also what was in happening in Charlie's head.
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Yeah.
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Which was really cool.
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Yeah, because and it wasn't always super clear, but most of the time when it was in Charlie's head, it was very like stylized.
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Like when he was going through the book.
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It's suddenly Zendaya's holding all the guns, you know what I mean?
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Which then comes down to like the film was never about Zendaya.
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No.
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It was never.
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She is merely she is merely like a plot point.
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It was it's about how Robert navigates this information.
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And like the downward spiral he goes down.
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And how your like imagine can you imagine?
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How your imagination can like disorientate disorientate your reality.
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Or like your perception of things can determine your reality.
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And he's his perception wasn't clear and like Cause all that changed was that he just gained a little he just gained a little bit of inform new information about his partner.
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Yeah.
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Nothing actually physically tangibly changed.
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He just gained that, but then that kind of like went backwards for him.
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You know.
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But yeah.
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Also, like it it watches how people can be so dis disruptive within their own life.
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Like they kind of both he like he kind of blew up his own life.
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Not because of her, like he was actively blowing up his own life.
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Was it in reaction to her to this her situation?
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Yes.
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But was it her?
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No, it was like what his internal world was going through.
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Because then even so, like throughout like what he starts to like lie to Rachel about why she did it and stuff, and be like this, you had a trouble childhood.
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She watched her family die, like stuff that didn't actually happen.
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And then she then he goes and nearly cheats on with the person from work.
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And it just like he is it's it's really like showing how you can fully just like be so self-destructive on yourself as well.
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Cause that's the thing as well, like there's no like like in the cause in the story as well, like there's no real I think like because most films would like paint they would try paint one of them as the villain.
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They would paint one of them like this is the good person, this is the bad person.
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There was none of that in this.
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Have you watched Obsession?
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No.
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Emma, we gotta watch Obsession.
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It's scary.
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It's scary, but like it's really good.
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Okay.
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It's really good.
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Yeah.
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With this movie, they basically like nothing's defined or determined.
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Yeah.
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Which allows it literally is just the whole film is just asking the audience to question their relationship to forgiveness and how they perceive things.
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Yeah.
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How they perceive things.
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Yeah.
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But like even sorry go.
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No, no, no, you go.
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Um because even if like Zendaya's character wasn't a woman, if it wasn't a person of colour as well, like how does how would that change how people would give forgiveness to that character?
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Yeah, because that the choice of like Emma being a like woman and person of colour.
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Because we were talking about this court case that's happening with the woman who killed her three kids, something like that.
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Whoa.
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Yeah, I know, crazy.
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I was kind of just listening to them debate.
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Um, and how the ethics of like the role and like ethnicity and race you are in relationship to a court case or like how things like really it it changes shit.
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Because the sorry I'm gonna talk with my mouthful.
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The choice the choice to cast like Emma as a woman and a POC feels deliberate.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Um if they like gave that role to like an ethnic male, there would be way less forgiveness societally.
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Way less.
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But because they made it a female and like such a beloved human being within society, people like there was more leeway to have grace to forgive Emma's character, which is insane.
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But yeah.
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Zendaya's pretty awesome.
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No, I don't.
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Don't.
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She's kind of super awesome.
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Don't.
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And her husband's pretty cool too.
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It's too deep.
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It's too deep.
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There'll be a whole episode on Zendaya.
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I can't, it's too deep coming up.
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:40.319
Um, what else are we about?
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Um, we could we talk about the score?
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Oh, yes.
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The score's just three flutes.
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Three flutes, and you had me on the tips of my tongue.
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I think the composer, like, Walked us crazy because the composer, Daniel something something, he's the composer for the Spider-Ver movies.
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Whoa! And that score's like so intense and just full of so much stuff.
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And then to just have three flutes.
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Like, apparently, I think it's like they like they scored the whole film in like three days.
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They went to a studio three days, just the three of them.
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And it's like the amount of tension that just like grew from that.
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Anxious, you know.
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Anxious.
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It's like, oh my gosh.
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You also have to watch the invite.
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I'm adding that to the list too.
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Okay.
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I have to watch a lot of things, apparently.
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Okay, we're adding we're adding a lot to this list.
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But like, we're gonna watch them.
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Yes, it's true.
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Yeah, we're gonna watch them.
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But um Yeah, the soundtrack was insane because it was so simple and yet I was sick.
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I was unwell.
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The silence was filled.
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Like Also just the use of sound design of when we were hearing through Emma's ear.
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Oh my god, crazy.
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And that's what we open on.
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That's what we open on.
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Like they opened her ear.
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They open on the muffled ear.
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And we don't know that she got that ear, the ear was muffled because of the gun she shot.
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We don't find that out until about halfway through when they're talk when like they're talking and Charlie's trying to find out what actually happened and stuff.
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Yeah.
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But um, but yeah, just the stuff like that.
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It's also kind of like symbolically kind of metaphors like the distance between them.
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Hmm.
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Yes.
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And like foreshadows kind of like the lies and Well, even their first interaction, Charlie pretends that he's read the book that she was like reading, you know, to just try like get to know.
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Yeah you know.
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Like they basically the big literal beginning scene is setting up um the fact that their relationship is built on a lie, in a sense.
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Yeah.
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Even just this like, even like cause it like, yeah, and then how we see the relationship kind of crumble through like through his wedding speech.
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Whoa, that was crazy.
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Because the wedding speech is so thought out and like written well and everything that, and then eventually he starts to delete it.
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We get to the actual wedding.
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Doesn't even have a script.
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And he's just like, he's just like, yeah, and we we have really good sex, and like he's just completely fumbling it because it is completely crumbled, and then he gets the shit kicked out of him.
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Crazy.
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And then and then they end up in both back in the diner and they do their thing where they try and start.
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The visual choice to constantly have like a person between them.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Once the news is broken, they are like always separated by something.
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Visually, like whether we're a person.
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Or a what do you say?
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Or so close.
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I I said like a I think I was gonna say I went to say pole, but then said pile.
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But we would have said the same words.
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A poll.
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A pile of broccoli puffs.
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Or like it just turned into like single um like they would never share the screen together.
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:09.680
Hmm.
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:10.000
Yeah.
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:11.359
You'd just be like single shots.
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:11.920
Single shots?
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:12.960
What's the fucking word?
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:14.640
Yeah, that makes sense.
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:15.279
Single shots?
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:16.319
Single shots.
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:18.960
Well, it doesn't matter, no one's listening to this.
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:20.720
Yeah, no one is listening to this.
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.480
Um but um but yeah.
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:25.920
That were really cute.
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:32.160
Um There was a lot of like red motifs.
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.880
Like the colour of um blood.
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:40.880
Of blood, that's true.
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.519
Um, or also like when the like lights were flickering when they first kissed for the first time.
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:46.079
Yes.
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:52.640
Um because I guess red red and blood is like just kind of that's kind of the first thing you think of when you think of a school shooting.
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:58.640
Because you you you think of the like because red red red imp red implies violence, red implies death.
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:01.440
Like it also can be passion.
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:01.759
Yeah.
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:02.720
It also can be love.
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:03.119
It can be.
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:18.880
The colour in so many things kind of like encapsulates like the um the duality of everything that they're experiencing in their relationship.
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:19.680
Yeah.
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:20.720
Definitely.
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:22.640
Because the film tackles all of that.
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.200
It like Yeah.
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:38.960
Um They really not really, they like epically like there was it was still like some six seven.
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:40.000
Oh my god.
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:50.799
Um there were what am I saying?
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.759
There were I don't know.
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.519
Oh no girl.
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:57.279
Oh, this is dark.
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:08.880
I thought the the shots of like bringing back the younger Emma in relationship to the older Oh, like the the current um Charlie.
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.599
Charlie was so d like it was it was It's unsettling.
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:14.960
Yeah, but that was the intention.
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:15.359
Yeah.
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:16.480
Which they did really well.
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:17.039
Yeah.
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.519
Because all I was like, what in the grooming is going on?
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:28.079
Because all well, because like all that all that Charlie is seeing is this version of Emma that he doesn't know.
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:29.039
You know?
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:39.519
Like he's like trying to see Emma as her full self and have this just be a piece of new information about her, but it is all he can see, it is all he is focusing on, he's hyperfixating on it.
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:54.720
So then then we're seeing him walking through the park with the teenaged Emma, which looks ridiculous, but it like really like it really conveys what's going on in his head well, which I really appreciated.
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:56.400
Which I really appreciated.
00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.200
The um film critic that I am.
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.960
We have so many points and I just can't bother to read any of them.
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:03.920
Yeah, there's a lot.
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.599
Um but it was a really freaking cool movie.
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:08.239
It was sick.
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:08.719
Let's okay.
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:12.159
Also, can we just talk about how good of an actor Robert Patterson is?
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:18.800
He's really um to call it under under Underrated.
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:19.440
Underrated.
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:21.679
Because his versatility is underrated.
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:22.480
It's crazy.
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.039
If you watch any movie, he's I'm sure he's insane.
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:27.599
He is someone like different every time.
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.480
Like if you watch him in the drama, he's that if you watch him in the Odyssey, he plays a different character.
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.519
If you watch him in Mickey 17, he's so cool.
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:42.639
Like, he's just like so and he's he's very good at voice work too, because it makes his voice different for each role he plays.
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.880
I'm really excited to see him in prime time.
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.119
Apparently he lived in a boat.
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:52.800
Like a blow-up boat apart like when he first moved somewhere.
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.000
He lived in a a blow-up boat as his bed.
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:57.039
Oh wow.
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.800
Wow, and that's the building character right there.
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:02.400
Here's a question.
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:23.039
What's the relation to forgiveness if I If I decided What's something from my past if I told you, you'd be like, I can't forgive you.
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:31.360
As in like if you like if we were playing that game and you told me, ooh.
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:33.840
Like what's the line?
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:40.000
I feel like I'm a pretty like I can forgive pretty easily.
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.119
I won't forget, but I'll like, well, I will forget.
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:44.719
But like I have a bad memory.
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.159
There is a chance that you will forget.
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:47.199
There's a chance that we'll forget.
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:47.599
And we like it.
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:59.440
But I think like I will I will forgive, but like with I like I give people grace pretty easily.
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:00.960
Yeah.
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:19.199
I feel like it would have to be like if I like came up to you and said like one time when I was I was a teenager, I I punched your brother in the face.
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.920
I would I would I punched Sean in the face.
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:24.719
Oh.
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:27.440
Oh, Sean's my little sister.
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:28.639
Would you forgive me?
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:30.559
I'd be like, okay, why?
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:31.119
Mm-hmm.
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:32.800
And what when where why?
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:42.639
If the reason was um this would never happen.
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:54.480
If the reason was uh I got nothing in my head right now.
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:06.239
I think I would just be like, because obviously that's pretty fucked up for you to and obviously because like she's my little sister, I'd be like, I'd my protection would come in.
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:11.679
And I'd be like because obviously I'd just wanna I'd wanna know like why.
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:12.159
Yeah.
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:13.760
Because like that's I would want to.
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:20.079
Say say the reason why was ethically understandable.
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:31.199
I think I think Would you forgive me for the um for the action of it?
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:40.559
I think I would just be like I think I would like You can say no.
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.039
I'm just trying to word this correctly.
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:58.480
Like I would I think I would I would be like like I'd be like, hey, like thank thank you for being honest with me about that.
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.119
Thank you for telling me that's fucked up.
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:03.360
Don't ever punch my sister again, please.
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.679
I'm gonna have that on my mind, obviously.
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:09.280
Yeah, like I don't think I'll ever be able to fully get past that.
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:10.320
You know what I mean?
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:14.800
Yeah, because you've like physically abused my sister in a way.
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:20.400
Would you have me in your life, or would you be like, no, I'm gonna keep my distance?
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.880
You're actually this is like real time shit.
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:30.079
It is.
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:36.800
Well, like because I wouldn't want you to I I wouldn't want to have to like let you go or distance myself from you.
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:38.880
Because dude, I love you.
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:43.039
So, but that's like this is tricky.
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:43.920
I know, exactly.
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:45.519
This is the ethics of the drama.
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:50.639
Okay, I'll let you sit on it.
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.079
Give me one for you.
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.440
Like if I gave you the same if I if I gave you the same if I punched your sister.
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.159
Yeah.
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:09.679
Why?
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:12.559
Why would you punch my sister?
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:14.159
What's the reason?
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:36.480
Something like like you in the same situation that it was like ethically like say if like say like I punched your sister and she was about to do something really stupid, so I was like punching her.
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:40.480
Actually, I already know the answer to that.
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:45.440
What's a r what's a really like on the fence reason to punch someone?
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:59.119
Say say your sister got like really, really drunk and she was like coming at me and I out of self-defense, I had to I had to punch her.
00:39:59.280 --> 00:39:59.599
Yeah.
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:01.760
But like I punched her up real bad.
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:10.239
Well, like, if it's in if it's if it's self-defense, that can be forgivable.
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:12.639
I would be aware of 40 minutes.
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:21.440
Hey, I would like if you like self-defenced and then like kept going and just kind of beating into her, yeah, I'd be aware of that.
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:25.039
I would understand that it came from a place of self-defense, so I would be more forgiving.
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:28.400
Everything is truly like the reason or why it's the why.
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.519
It's so about the why, and it's so about the circumstance.
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:36.880
Yeah, you know, because if you just punched my sister for no reason, I'd be like, what the fuck?
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.440
Yeah, like I would be concerned for you.
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.280
I would just be like, hey, are you okay?
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:41.840
Yeah.
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:42.639
That's the thing.
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.400
I wouldn't, I wouldn't just like bar you out of my life completely.
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:50.159
I would want to I'd check in on you because that's not you.
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:51.199
This is true.
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:52.239
That is not you at all.
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:53.920
So I'd be like, Emma, what's going on?
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:54.320
Yeah.
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:59.199
And I would want to be there, be by your side to help you come back to your true self.
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:00.079
Truth.
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:01.920
Because that's what friendship's all about.
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:02.639
It's truth.
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:04.079
You know what I mean?
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.199
Yeah, so tricky.
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:20.800
Or even like it's so dependent on the situation and what the circumstances are and the context of like when someone's done something bad in their past, but you know them now, and the person that you know of now is not that person that you know of.
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:21.599
Yeah.
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.760
It's like at that point, do you I was having this conversation with Sion of the Drama.
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:36.480
We were like, can you forgive someone because of something they've done in their past, assuming that the person they are right now is not that person anymore?
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.880
Or like what's your relationship to trust?
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:46.880
Because I feel like in my eyes, I feel like I will trust you until you do wrong by me.
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:47.679
Yeah.
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:55.920
And like if you're so if you're open and willing to be like, this is my past, this is what happened, I own that shit.
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:56.480
Yeah.
00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.239
That's not who I am anymore, and I'd like to be not that person, then I'd be like, cool.
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:01.199
Yeah, I respect that.
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.400
But until you prove me wrong, yeah, then I would be like, Yeah.
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:07.760
Oh, yeah.
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:08.880
What's going on?
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:09.440
Yeah.
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:22.559
Because I feel like it's that thing of like, it's like me and Michelle, my girlfriend, have had, because there's been like obviously like people people cheat on each other, which sucks.
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.239
Like, don't cheat.
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:30.079
But like we've had the conversation about like what would you do, like, like Shots asked me, like, what would you do if I cheated on you?
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:38.480
Like if I cheated on you and like we were broken up for forever, would you be able to like get back with me or like try to be with me again?
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:38.960
Mm-hmm.
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:44.000
And like to for me, I would be like, no.
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:45.280
I don't think I could either.
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.039
Because like done it once.
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:57.360
Because with with the relationship we have, we've agreed for like an ex not like an e it's like just like it like cheating would be like a complete betrayal.
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.519
It would be a complete break of trust.
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:11.440
And obviously, like I would want to hope that you would never do that to someone else again, but I would not be able to trust you in the same way ever again.
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:12.559
You know what I mean?
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:13.039
Yeah.
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:21.199
Like that would be like I would not be able to get back into a relationship or try like be in a relationship with her again.
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:21.760
Yeah.
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.440
Because it would just be a it would I would not be able to fully trust, you know.
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:26.239
Agree.
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:28.880
But then there's also like forgiveness.
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:29.840
People do change.
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.039
But also like I don't know.
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:39.599
Yeah, because that's the thing, like, so like if she if she proves that she's like never done that ever again, like that's cool.
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:40.960
I'm so happy I'm so happy for her.
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.760
So happy for her, but you did it to me, and therefore I cannot be a part of that again.
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:53.280
Like my friend Isabel Robert said to me, which I never heard before, a cheater never fuck, what was it?
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.760
A cheater doesn't change its spots or something?
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:56.400
What is it?
00:43:56.639 --> 00:44:02.159
A cheetah A cheater doesn't change a cheater.
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:08.320
A cheater doesn't change it move change his spots.
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:09.920
I don't know.
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:11.599
Sorry about that?
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.280
Sorry, I'm really booktureing it.
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:13.920
That's okay.
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.400
Well, I've always said once a cheater, always a cheater.
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:20.079
Is that your dog still?
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:20.480
Hmm?
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:21.519
Is that your dog still?
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:23.440
No, I think Sean's come home from school.
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:26.000
Don't shoot her.
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:26.559
No.
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:29.280
No! Stop it.
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.239
Anyway, with that, we probably should wrap up this episode.
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:32.480
Yeah.
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:33.519
Don't really know what that went.
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:35.039
We did a good whole 45.
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:35.679
Wow, that's great.
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:36.320
That's pretty great.
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:38.159
What question should we finish on?
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.000
What do we want to leave?
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:43.760
Um I did the last one, you do this one.
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:44.159
Yeah.
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:49.119
Maybe like what like what would it take?
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:55.039
Like it think back from your scenario, what would it take you're like someone really close to you or your like your best friend?
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:57.039
Think about your best friend if you have one.
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:02.719
Or like someone close to you like that, if you're really close with like your parents or like a loved one like that.
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:09.760
What would it take for you to be like, ooh, I'm a step back?
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:11.679
What would it take for them to do?
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:13.199
Let us know in the comments below.
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.719
Thank you so much for you know what we need to do?
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:19.119
What?
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.039
We need to record like a theme song.
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:22.159
Yeah, we do.
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:22.800
Yeah.
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:26.719
Or like we have all just each episode is a musical song.
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:28.400
Can be the musical effects.
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.000
That time of year and seven, it's a mega.
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:43.760
I love how we made it like a there's there's such a whole context to this.
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:47.039
But the fact that it's a sphere, I think that's hilarious.
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:49.920
Why did we like trap them?
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.639
Are we were we trapped?
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.280
Do anything with a sphere?
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:57.280
That lyric might need to change.
00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:57.760
Yeah.
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.800
Dad is smashing beers while we play poker.
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:07.119
Poker jumping pillows or have a soak or we jumping pillow mini pool?
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:07.840
Mini pool.
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:08.719
Mini pillows.
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:10.079
Jumping pillows.
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:12.159
Have a soak.
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.519
Oh we could sit on the table watching nothing to do.
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.639
But at least I'm here with you.
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:22.320
Was that it?
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:22.719
I don't know.
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:23.519
You just added that.
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.840
I think I think that's back.
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:30.000
But with that, we say a goodbye.
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:31.920
We art thou part.
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:33.760
Is that how you want?
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:35.119
Art thou part, that's it.
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:36.000
Out thou part.
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:37.599
It's not, but we'll stick with it.
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:37.760
Yeah.
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:39.679
Out thou part, out of the part part.
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:43.119
That has been the Fugler Shoe Bat Podcast Episode 2.
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:53.039
Oh my god.
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:54.719
You're giving that away for free.
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:55.599
Blur it out.
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:56.400
Can you blur it out?
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:57.199
I can blur it out.
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:58.239
I'll just blur out that corner.
00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:59.599
I'll just blur the whole thing.
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:02.480
We won't need to, because no one's watching.
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:04.719
No one's watching this! No one.
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:05.679
Anyway, bye.
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They're all gonna be there for episode three, but not for this one.
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Alright.
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Peace it out.
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Peace out, y'all.
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Goodbye.
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The shoe bad podcast.
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The shoe bad shoe bad, the shoe bad.
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Yeah.
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Stop listening.
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Do not keep listening.
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We told you, and you've been warned.
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Illegal.
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You know this already.
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If you choose, if we see any streams on this episode.
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You know what's coming.
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You know what's gonna happen.
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And there's nothing you can do about it.
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I just ate a smoosh ball.
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Was it yummy?
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Mm.
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Smooshy.
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They are quite smooshy.
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I like these smooths.
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I just ate these broccoli puffs that you wanna introduce me to.
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Fucked up.
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Amazing stuff.
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Fucked up.
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But I like these smooshed balls because I because there are things in here that I don't like.
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Like almonds, yuck.
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Um cashews, yuck, peanuts, yuck.
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So you don't like nuts?
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I don't like nuts at all.
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How do you get first, guys?
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I don't like nuts, but I can't taste the nuts in these, so it makes me eat nuts.
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Okay.
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But also I just like the taste of them.
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Because they taste like chocolate.
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Chocolate.
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Chocolate.
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Um, so as the last episode ended, we must now ask ourselves what our relationship with Instagram is and what would we like it to be?
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Um, as promised.
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Yeah.
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Shall I go first?
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You may.
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Um, my my relationship with Instagram is a weird one, and it's one I've been trying to like work out a healthy balance of because like just want to say.
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Hey, on my phone I have like like like screen time restrictions set up, but I don't use like the Apple screen time because that just like is really easy to bypass.
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I use an app called Opal, which is very good.
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I had Opal and then I lost my phone and now I'm on one sec.
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Damn.
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One sec.
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It's free.
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Oh nice.
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Yeah, see, I I I got paid for Opal.
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Yeah, because I had Opal and I paid for it.
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Yeah.
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But um, but it's kind of fun because if I want to unlock past my things, I have to like do a puzzle or do a crossword or like just meditate for 60 seconds.
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But um But the thing that's hard about it is is that I use Instagram like for my like booking work.
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Like all my like if you didn't know, I work as a freelance videographer whilst I'm not singing and dancing on stage.
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So and all my bookings come through Instagram.
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So I kinda need to have Instagram on the ready, so if a client goes, Hey, can you do this?
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I can go, Yes, I can, in a in a timely manner.
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And so like it's hard to like, because obviously, like I could just go onto Instagram, look at the messages, and then get off.
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But that's hard when suddenly I'm on reels and then I've been scrolling for 30 minutes and I go, How did I get here?
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I didn't cause I you just because you just go you go on and you go, Oh, let me just do a little scroll, see what's happening.
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And then you click on someone's video and then you just keep scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and then you're like oh and I've tried to implement things like I've tried to implement things like if I've used up because I set myself an hour on Instagram per day, and if I get to that hour, then I check messages on my computer for Instagram.
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Do I do that?
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No.
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If I'm at my desk I do, but if I'm just on my phone sorting out works, I'll sometimes I'm just like, oh let me just bypass it so I can check if there's anything, any messages, and then I just keep doing that.
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But um so yeah, but it's definitely gotten better.
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Like my screen time's better than it used to be, and like I'm not so like I am a bit at the moment I'm a bit relaxed with just unlocking my screen time because I could just be like, no, I don't need to, but then I do, and I just play the fun puzzle, you know what I mean?
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Or I do times tables, which is the one I like the most because that actually challenges me.
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But um where do you want it to be?
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I want to just like I I wanna be able to just like go on, scroll for a bit, see what my friends are doing, and then go, okay, cool, I'm gonna head off.
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You know what I mean?
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And ideally, work things are done on my computer.
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So if I'm messaging for work, I'd do that on my computer so it feels like a work thing, not a recreational thing.
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But um, do you know what I also want to do?
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This is just with my phone.
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You can buy this little like adapter thing, which no, let him hear the crunch.
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Let him hear it.
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Nummy crunchy.
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Um you can get you can buy this like adapter thing, which you hook up to like a physical no, which you hook up to like a physical phone.
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And so if you get a phone call on your phone, it'll ring the physical phone.
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What?
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Yeah.
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It makes like it makes your like old like rotary phone thing like connect to your phone via Bluetooth.
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So if you get a call, it rings the physical phone.
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You can pick up the physical phone and have a conversation on the physical phone.
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Whoa.
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And it's just this like adapter you buy, which you plug into the phone, which plugs into a wall, and it just makes it like so your fat phone's connected by Bluetooth.
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Oh my god, we can go back.
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Yeah.
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I also saw this video yesterday of this, like, um, she has she's implemented this thing called a landline system.
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And pretty much how it works is just she just has this little stand in her counter.
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No, everyone like on her landline.
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Don't you have a home landline?
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Hmm?
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Don't you have a home landline?
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We do have a home landline, and it's only used for the purposes of um talking to grandparents.
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My grand my grand my grandpa my my nanny, in fact, who lives in Wales.
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But um, but it's like a system she uses where she has this little like stand thing that goes on the wall, and when she's at home, that's where her phone lives.
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So if she wants her phone.
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Yep, just her actual phone.
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So if she wants to check her phone, she has to go over there, pick up the phone, do the things, and then it wants to.
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Like it's like it's like live it lives on the wall, that's its home.
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Oh, if she's in the house, it just like like for example, it's like if it's like if I just said my phone's just gonna live on that table there whilst I'm at home.
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Yeah.
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And if I want to use it, I've got to go over there, do the things, and then once I'm done with it, put it down and live life.
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See, because in my brain I was like, oh, I can't, I just want to do that with my sleep, but then my alarm.
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I could just get a freaking alarm clock.
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That's what I got.
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I got that's that was one dollar.
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That was one dollar for IKEA.
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The thing is though, I want to set multiple alarms all at once.
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Hmm.
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You I fear that's no time awareness.
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I fear that's hard to do with a maybe I'm just making a screen.
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Maybe you just need multiple alarm clocks.
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Wait, I could how much was that?
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This that was one dollar.
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Oh my god, so if I bought three, yeah.
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Oh my god!
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You can set up three separate alarms.
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Oh my god, okay.
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Yeah.
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Cause then I can have my phone and my laptop outside my iPad outside of my room.
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Yeah.
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Anyway.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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This is good.
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Yeah.
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But I think that's cool because it's like she still has her phone, but she's just like when she's at home, she doesn't feel this like weird attachment to it.
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You know?
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I used I can be so good at it, and then I can be so bad.
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It's hard.
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Because it's it's so hard as well because it feels like our phones are so needed because they just that's how we get do everything.
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You know what I mean?
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Like.
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But not necessarily like I've been through phases where like I'm I'm already pretty good at not being on my phone in general.
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Like the only apps I have really are like The Necessities, Spotify, and Finch.
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Finch! Finch!
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Oh my god, I've not ch I've not done anything.
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We love Finch.
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Um, which I had to start again because I lost my phone.
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What's your Finch's name?
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Lulu.
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Nice.
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Lulu, my little Finch.
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Um mine's Burb the Thing.
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Like Uber, and I don't even have Instagram, I use it on Safari.
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And if you see me on Instagram posting, that's on my laptop, unless I've downloaded it on my phone.
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Um upload from your iPad?
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I can.
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I'm uploading my iPad for my stories.
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Yeah.
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Um Yeah, it's a real love-hate relationship.
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I hate how much time I I'm like, oh my god, there's so much I want to do.
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Right now I don't have the energy for it because I'm doing eight shows a week, but there's so much I want to do, and I waste my time just on my phone because I'm tired.
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Yeah.
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This morning was actually the first morning in like the past two weeks where I woke up and was like, I'm meditating.
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Nice.
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So that was nice, and I was like, I feel alive again.
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So I can be really human.
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I am human.
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Um because I can be really, really good at it.
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Really good.
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Like you won't find me for a while.
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And then I can be really bad at it.
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Yeah.
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But I think I'm really bad at it when I'm in like a work schedule.
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Because it's so much easier.
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The relationship to like like obviously we need it for work, and I have lost jobs because I wasn't on social media for a hot sec.
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Like I was supposed to be teaching somewhere and then I didn't reply in time because I was off social media and I thought it was secured and uh um but like I think when you're in a show schedule, you're also like maybe it's just me, but I find it so I'm so much more aware of like who's at shows and like external perception of me, and then like I've been pretty good on this contract, but in the past it's like no, let them hear.
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Let them hear, human.
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Oh that wasn't crunchy, that wasn't crunchy.
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That was smooshy.
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Um yeah, you just get like so caught up in the HO week and in the show that like then it becomes oh this person was at the show, blah blah blah blah.
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And then you just get caught kind of like put in that bubble of like Yeah.
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I have been able to do shows and like then um kind of like what's happening in my own life isn't on social media in public, but like also like with the theatre crisis, you also have to like post about the show.
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Yeah, so it's like ah blah so I think I do so much better when I'm not on contract because I'm just like woo! Yeah, no one knows I exist and it's gorgeous.
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Yeah, I know, and that's the thing as well, like it's hard because of our line of work and what we do, there is an importance in some like respect of like having social media and how you present yourself on social media and like a feel like a need and also just a need to like know what's happening all the time 24-7.
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You know what I mean?
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I feel like I don't really care what's happening 24-7.
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But I should actually probably should care a little more.
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But like But like we don't need to know what's happening every second, you know what I mean?
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I just want to find the concept of like curating who you are is so fucking frustrated.
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Oop swearing, oop, oop, oop with that kind of podcast.
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No, it's like we can swear on a podcast.
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It's so frustrating because like as people were like constantly changing and developing into like fixate like for other obviously you can't control how other people perceive you, but like to be dictated by other people based on the things you post is crazy.
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Because like no one should define who and where you shall go and what you shall be.
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And yet we spend time curating an image of ourselves for other people.
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Yeah.
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Because of the work we do.
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That's crazy.
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Yeah.
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It's like our it's like your in our Instagram page.
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Well, because your Instagram or your social media pages are just a performance of yourself.
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I know they're they're not our full self.
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That's what we that's what we want people.
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It's what we're doing.
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And obviously privacy is crucial.
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Yeah.
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Um but and it's a choice to be on social media as well.
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Like I'm very aware this is a decision I've made.
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I'm putting myself in this position.
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Yeah.
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Um But like last night I was going through my Instagram and like stalking myself as we all do, and like cleaning out some shit.
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And I was like, why do why am I doing this?
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Why does it matter?
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Why do I care how other people perceive me?
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I'm tired of that one.
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And then here I am.
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Yeah.
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Succumbing.
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Because that's the thing as well, it's like social media can suck, but also social media can be really cool.
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It's so powerful.
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It can be really cool.
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It's literally like information at your fingertips.
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And we live in a time where like literally all of us, everyone in the world has never been more connected, but also everyone in the world has never been more disconnected because that connect the connection isn't real per se.
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You know what I mean?
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But it means our horizons and how ideas of things can be so broad because we can see things that people from the whole other side of the world had have created and like what they're seeing it though, like you know what I mean.
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And now that AI, oh that's a whole nother thing which we shouldn't enter yet, because we'll just keep talking.
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We could do another episode about that.
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But AI is a whole nother thing.
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That is a whole nother thing.
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It's just it's it's like, oh, I feel like I'm rotting.
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I'm actively watching myself rot as a human being, and I'm yeah, I feel crazy.
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Yeah.
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Anyways.
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Anyway.
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So So, a couple weeks ago.
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We founded.
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We I think we talked about this on on last episode.
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And if there's someone listening to this right now, you know what's coming to you.
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Well, I think no one should know this because you aren't listening.
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You aren't listening.
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No one is listening.
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Wait, let me just check my I got a haircut today, so I'm a bit.
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Haircut, haircut, and sty check.
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I'm always hey, and yes, if you're there last you found out at the same time as Emma that I have a star.
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And it's so annoying.
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Well, it's not it's just like I'm just so aware that it's there.
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And my hey!
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Who is that?
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That's Lucy.
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That's the ghost.
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Lucy, you can come in here.
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Lucy! Lucy! Lucy, come in here.
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Cool.
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All good.
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Ignore us.
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It's okay.
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Okay.
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But um we decided We decided Um We decided to make a film club in which just is us.
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However, I did invite um other people if they were interested to join, and yet I've done nothing about it.
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Um so now that I see you and I hear you, I haven't acted on it.
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Um club, and we uh got we watched the drama in which Because we'd both watched it.
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Uh-huh.
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You watched it way before me.
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Well I watched it.
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Yeah, because I I saw it in cinemas.
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And then I watched it on my cousin's TV, which you didn't agree with because she she watched it illegally.
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Support art, support art.
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Support art, support art.
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Only watch it uh illegally if you don't want to support support the people.
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But then we bought the gun.
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I thought you were about to fart into the microphone.
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Also, me and you and are really open about our bowel and gas um movements, so we are just expect some conversation.
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So if you ever if you ever hear us talking about our bowels, if you ever hear our bowels, just know that this is an open this is an open space for it.
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And let us know about your bowel movements in the comments below.
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We'd love to hear about them.
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Yep, thank you.
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But um we purchased the film ethically, um, and we watched a drama and we did a full analysis of it.
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Ewan had a notepad and wrote nothing.
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I wrote nothing.
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But it was in his brain.
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It was in my brain.
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I did lots of like pause and talk about this.
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A lot of pausing and talking.
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We have, for those who are visually watching multiple pages of the movie being an alpha.
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I realise we haven't I don't think we've actually not done too much physically, but I feel like because there are people that might just be listening to this.
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This is true.
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So if we ever are doing anything physically, we have to do a just for the people that aren't watching.
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Just if you don't know This is what's happening right now.
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But also if you're not watching, do you not want to see us?
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What the hell?
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Come on.
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I get it if you're driving, but like that's silly.
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Do anyway to be safe.
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Don't don't have one point like me when you drive, guys, be safe.
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Anyway, we've we split it into multiple um subtitles.
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We have like main takeaways.
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We wrote some things about the score, the visual effects, some motifs, um then we wrote kind of like each character's analysis um and some other irrelevant notes.
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Um Hey, it's all irrelevant.
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It's all relevant.
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No, it's all relevant, sorry.
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It's all it's all irrelevant.
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What are you talking about?
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Oh so um where should where to start?
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Let's start with some main takeaways.
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Well, like main takeaway.
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I remember I remember watching it for the first time when I watched it in the movie cinema, and I remember just like being like because the movie just starts pretty normally, and then like the bombshell also, wait, spoilers.
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Spoilers the drama Spoilers if you've not watched the drama.
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Don't listen any further, but it shouldn't matter and be listening to the further.
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But once the like the news like the thing drops that um Zendaya planned a school shooting, from that moment, because I remember being like, oh, and then the movie just kept stressing me out like this, and you're just like, what's happening, what's happening?
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Because you're seeing all these people's minds just kind of unfold.
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And that's the first thing I want to bring up, actually.
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Because so obviously they have they're at the wine tasting for the wedding, and they start discussing the things that they've never told anyone before because they play that game.
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And what are the characters?
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There's Emma, Charlie.
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Emma, Charlie, um Rachel and Rachel and Mike.
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So Rachel! So Mike starts with his story where like with his story, and s in that scenario, someone gets hurt, someone is getting attacked.
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Rachel, someone gets locked in a closet, someone is getting like neglected, and like pretty traumatic experience.
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Charlie bullies someone, which takes a big mental load on something.
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And then we get to Emma's, which didn't necessarily affect anyone else because she didn't actually go through with it.
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Nothing happened.
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And once she kind of had that realization, like, became better and became like a gun, like a like a gun act like a activist.
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Like an activist for no guns.
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You know.
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She's the only one that caused no actual harm to people, but gets the worst reaction.
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She was gonna shoot up a school, guys.
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Just saying, you didn't say that.
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She was gonna shoot up a school, but didn't do it.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No one's listening to this, so I didn't have to.
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No one's listening, I think your point.
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You don't explain yourself.
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So, and it's so interesting how like the kind of like main takeaway from like that event is just like questioning um like how people accept things or people's ethics um based on beliefs and experiences that happen to you and how that affects the outcome or reality of like something you've done or something you could do.
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Yeah.
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Because that's the thing, if like what's I say, and it because it all depends on what like each person, like what each person's like morals are and what they see as objectively bad, you know?
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Like in my mind, if Emma had gone through with the school shooting, out of the four, that's probably the worst one.
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That's probably the most horrific one.
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But she didn't do it.
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But because she didn't do it, it's like it's still like a crazy thought to have.
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But also it makes you question because also the fact that it's a secret, now it's like unfolding because they're about to get married, so there's like a ticking time bomb going on here.
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It makes them question their own relationship and how much they know each other.
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And like it makes you question who you want in your life, and you're like at what level of commitment are you is your relationship to someone based on what they do and like the ethics of what they do and what they've done?
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Does that like do you have enough grace and forgiveness within yourself to kind of like surpass things that people have done, you know?
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Yeah, because like at the end of the day.
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Because if I was if I was in that if I was on that table, I would be like, what?
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Robert Patterson.
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Robert Robert Patton.
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I can spell.
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Um at the end of the day, if I was at that table, at first I'd be like, Whoa, that's kind of crazy.
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But they didn't do it, so it wouldn't be that crazy.
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But what was crazy is the fact that Rachel reacted the way that she did, which made her look bad.
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Look look worse.
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They all did shitty things.
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Yeah.
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But because of how Rachel reacted and her like Um Yeah, because of how she reacted, it sent like a lot of questioning.
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Yeah.
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Because all the others they all laugh at.
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They're all like, oh my god, that's hilarious.
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What?
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That's crazy, that's fucked up.
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You know, then it gets to Emma's and they're all like
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Yeah.
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It's like how you define how you define something is simply how it is.
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And like they kind of let her define Emma's situation a little bit.
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Because it's also interesting how like because that's pretty heavy stuff to be like, hey, I thought about doing a school shooting, you know.
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Not once did any of them like kind of be like, oh shit, that's hectic.
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Like, what was that like for you?
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You know what I mean?
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Are you okay?
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But they all went to, oh, is she crazy?
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Yeah.
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Because that's then that's then what we see Charlie try work out the whole time.
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And throughout the whole film, which is a thing I loved visually about the film, how a lot of the time it was like We don't know what reality we're in.
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We were seeing like what was real, but also what was in happening in Charlie's head.
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Yeah.
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Which was really cool.
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Yeah, because and it wasn't always super clear, but most of the time when it was in Charlie's head, it was very like stylized.
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Like when he was going through the book.
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It's suddenly Zendaya's holding all the guns, you know what I mean?
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Which then comes down to like the film was never about Zendaya.
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No.
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It was never.
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She is merely she is merely like a plot point.
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It was it's about how Robert navigates this information.
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And like the downward spiral he goes down.
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And how your like imagine can you imagine?
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How your imagination can like disorientate disorientate your reality.
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Or like your perception of things can determine your reality.
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And he's his perception wasn't clear and like Cause all that changed was that he just gained a little he just gained a little bit of inform new information about his partner.
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Yeah.
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Nothing actually physically tangibly changed.
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He just gained that, but then that kind of like went backwards for him.
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You know.
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But yeah.
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Also, like it it watches how people can be so dis disruptive within their own life.
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Like they kind of both he like he kind of blew up his own life.
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Not because of her, like he was actively blowing up his own life.
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Was it in reaction to her to this her situation?
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Yes.
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But was it her?
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No, it was like what his internal world was going through.
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Because then even so, like throughout like what he starts to like lie to Rachel about why she did it and stuff, and be like this, you had a trouble childhood.
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She watched her family die, like stuff that didn't actually happen.
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And then she then he goes and nearly cheats on with the person from work.
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And it just like he is it's it's really like showing how you can fully just like be so self-destructive on yourself as well.
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Cause that's the thing as well, like there's no like like in the cause in the story as well, like there's no real I think like because most films would like paint they would try paint one of them as the villain.
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They would paint one of them like this is the good person, this is the bad person.
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There was none of that in this.
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Have you watched Obsession?
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No.
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Emma, we gotta watch Obsession.
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It's scary.
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It's scary, but like it's really good.
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Okay.
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It's really good.
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Yeah.
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With this movie, they basically like nothing's defined or determined.
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Yeah.
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Which allows it literally is just the whole film is just asking the audience to question their relationship to forgiveness and how they perceive things.
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Yeah.
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How they perceive things.
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Yeah.
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But like even sorry go.
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No, no, no, you go.
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Um because even if like Zendaya's character wasn't a woman, if it wasn't a person of colour as well, like how does how would that change how people would give forgiveness to that character?
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Yeah, because that the choice of like Emma being a like woman and person of colour.
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Because we were talking about this court case that's happening with the woman who killed her three kids, something like that.
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Whoa.
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Yeah, I know, crazy.
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I was kind of just listening to them debate.
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Um, and how the ethics of like the role and like ethnicity and race you are in relationship to a court case or like how things like really it it changes shit.
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Because the sorry I'm gonna talk with my mouthful.
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The choice the choice to cast like Emma as a woman and a POC feels deliberate.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Um if they like gave that role to like an ethnic male, there would be way less forgiveness societally.
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Way less.
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But because they made it a female and like such a beloved human being within society, people like there was more leeway to have grace to forgive Emma's character, which is insane.
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But yeah.
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Zendaya's pretty awesome.
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No, I don't.
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Don't.
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She's kind of super awesome.
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Don't.
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And her husband's pretty cool too.
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It's too deep.
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It's too deep.
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There'll be a whole episode on Zendaya.
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I can't, it's too deep coming up.
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Um, what else are we about?
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Um, we could we talk about the score?
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Oh, yes.
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The score's just three flutes.
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Three flutes, and you had me on the tips of my tongue.
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I think the composer, like, Walked us crazy because the composer, Daniel something something, he's the composer for the Spider-Ver movies.
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Whoa! And that score's like so intense and just full of so much stuff.
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And then to just have three flutes.
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Like, apparently, I think it's like they like they scored the whole film in like three days.
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They went to a studio three days, just the three of them.
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And it's like the amount of tension that just like grew from that.
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Anxious, you know.
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Anxious.
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It's like, oh my gosh.
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You also have to watch the invite.
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I'm adding that to the list too.
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Okay.
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I have to watch a lot of things, apparently.
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Okay, we're adding we're adding a lot to this list.
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But like, we're gonna watch them.
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Yes, it's true.
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Yeah, we're gonna watch them.
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But um Yeah, the soundtrack was insane because it was so simple and yet I was sick.
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I was unwell.
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The silence was filled.
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Like Also just the use of sound design of when we were hearing through Emma's ear.
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Oh my god, crazy.
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And that's what we open on.
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That's what we open on.
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Like they opened her ear.
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They open on the muffled ear.
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And we don't know that she got that ear, the ear was muffled because of the gun she shot.
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We don't find that out until about halfway through when they're talk when like they're talking and Charlie's trying to find out what actually happened and stuff.
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Yeah.
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But um, but yeah, just the stuff like that.
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It's also kind of like symbolically kind of metaphors like the distance between them.
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Hmm.
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Yes.
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And like foreshadows kind of like the lies and Well, even their first interaction, Charlie pretends that he's read the book that she was like reading, you know, to just try like get to know.
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Yeah you know.
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Like they basically the big literal beginning scene is setting up um the fact that their relationship is built on a lie, in a sense.
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Yeah.
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Even just this like, even like cause it like, yeah, and then how we see the relationship kind of crumble through like through his wedding speech.
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Whoa, that was crazy.
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Because the wedding speech is so thought out and like written well and everything that, and then eventually he starts to delete it.
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We get to the actual wedding.
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Doesn't even have a script.
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And he's just like, he's just like, yeah, and we we have really good sex, and like he's just completely fumbling it because it is completely crumbled, and then he gets the shit kicked out of him.
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Crazy.
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And then and then they end up in both back in the diner and they do their thing where they try and start.
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The visual choice to constantly have like a person between them.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Once the news is broken, they are like always separated by something.
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Visually, like whether we're a person.
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Or a what do you say?
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Or so close.
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:56.640
I I said like a I think I was gonna say I went to say pole, but then said pile.
00:30:57.039 --> 00:30:58.160
But we would have said the same words.
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A poll.
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.319
A pile of broccoli puffs.
00:31:02.559 --> 00:31:09.200
Or like it just turned into like single um like they would never share the screen together.
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:09.680
Hmm.
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:10.000
Yeah.
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:11.359
You'd just be like single shots.
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:11.920
Single shots?
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:12.960
What's the fucking word?
00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:14.640
Yeah, that makes sense.
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:15.279
Single shots?
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:16.319
Single shots.
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:18.960
Well, it doesn't matter, no one's listening to this.
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:20.720
Yeah, no one is listening to this.
00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:24.480
Um but um but yeah.
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:25.920
That were really cute.
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:32.160
Um There was a lot of like red motifs.
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:38.880
Like the colour of um blood.
00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:40.880
Of blood, that's true.
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.519
Um, or also like when the like lights were flickering when they first kissed for the first time.
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:46.079
Yes.
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:52.640
Um because I guess red red and blood is like just kind of that's kind of the first thing you think of when you think of a school shooting.
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:58.640
Because you you you think of the like because red red red imp red implies violence, red implies death.
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:01.440
Like it also can be passion.
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:01.759
Yeah.
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:02.720
It also can be love.
00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:03.119
It can be.
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:18.880
The colour in so many things kind of like encapsulates like the um the duality of everything that they're experiencing in their relationship.
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:19.680
Yeah.
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:20.720
Definitely.
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:22.640
Because the film tackles all of that.
00:32:22.720 --> 00:32:25.200
It like Yeah.
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:38.960
Um They really not really, they like epically like there was it was still like some six seven.
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:40.000
Oh my god.
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:50.799
Um there were what am I saying?
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.759
There were I don't know.
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.519
Oh no girl.
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:57.279
Oh, this is dark.
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:08.880
I thought the the shots of like bringing back the younger Emma in relationship to the older Oh, like the the current um Charlie.
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.599
Charlie was so d like it was it was It's unsettling.
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:14.960
Yeah, but that was the intention.
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:15.359
Yeah.
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:16.480
Which they did really well.
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:17.039
Yeah.
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.519
Because all I was like, what in the grooming is going on?
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:28.079
Because all well, because like all that all that Charlie is seeing is this version of Emma that he doesn't know.
00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:29.039
You know?
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:39.519
Like he's like trying to see Emma as her full self and have this just be a piece of new information about her, but it is all he can see, it is all he is focusing on, he's hyperfixating on it.
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:54.720
So then then we're seeing him walking through the park with the teenaged Emma, which looks ridiculous, but it like really like it really conveys what's going on in his head well, which I really appreciated.
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:56.400
Which I really appreciated.
00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.200
The um film critic that I am.
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:02.960
We have so many points and I just can't bother to read any of them.
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:03.920
Yeah, there's a lot.
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:07.599
Um but it was a really freaking cool movie.
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:08.239
It was sick.
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:08.719
Let's okay.
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:12.159
Also, can we just talk about how good of an actor Robert Patterson is?
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:18.800
He's really um to call it under under Underrated.
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:19.440
Underrated.
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:21.679
Because his versatility is underrated.
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:22.480
It's crazy.
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.039
If you watch any movie, he's I'm sure he's insane.
00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:27.599
He is someone like different every time.
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.480
Like if you watch him in the drama, he's that if you watch him in the Odyssey, he plays a different character.
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.519
If you watch him in Mickey 17, he's so cool.
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:42.639
Like, he's just like so and he's he's very good at voice work too, because it makes his voice different for each role he plays.
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.880
I'm really excited to see him in prime time.
00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:47.119
Apparently he lived in a boat.
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:52.800
Like a blow-up boat apart like when he first moved somewhere.
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:56.000
He lived in a a blow-up boat as his bed.
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:57.039
Oh wow.
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.800
Wow, and that's the building character right there.
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:02.400
Here's a question.
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:23.039
What's the relation to forgiveness if I If I decided What's something from my past if I told you, you'd be like, I can't forgive you.
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:31.360
As in like if you like if we were playing that game and you told me, ooh.
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:33.840
Like what's the line?
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:40.000
I feel like I'm a pretty like I can forgive pretty easily.
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:43.119
I won't forget, but I'll like, well, I will forget.
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:44.719
But like I have a bad memory.
00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:46.159
There is a chance that you will forget.
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:47.199
There's a chance that we'll forget.
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:47.599
And we like it.
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:59.440
But I think like I will I will forgive, but like with I like I give people grace pretty easily.
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:00.960
Yeah.
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:19.199
I feel like it would have to be like if I like came up to you and said like one time when I was I was a teenager, I I punched your brother in the face.
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.920
I would I would I punched Sean in the face.
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:24.719
Oh.
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:27.440
Oh, Sean's my little sister.
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:28.639
Would you forgive me?
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:30.559
I'd be like, okay, why?
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:31.119
Mm-hmm.
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:32.800
And what when where why?
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:42.639
If the reason was um this would never happen.
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:54.480
If the reason was uh I got nothing in my head right now.
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:06.239
I think I would just be like, because obviously that's pretty fucked up for you to and obviously because like she's my little sister, I'd be like, I'd my protection would come in.
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:11.679
And I'd be like because obviously I'd just wanna I'd wanna know like why.
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:12.159
Yeah.
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:13.760
Because like that's I would want to.
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:20.079
Say say the reason why was ethically understandable.
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:31.199
I think I think Would you forgive me for the um for the action of it?
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:40.559
I think I would just be like I think I would like You can say no.
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.039
I'm just trying to word this correctly.
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:58.480
Like I would I think I would I would be like like I'd be like, hey, like thank thank you for being honest with me about that.
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.119
Thank you for telling me that's fucked up.
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:03.360
Don't ever punch my sister again, please.
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:05.679
I'm gonna have that on my mind, obviously.
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:09.280
Yeah, like I don't think I'll ever be able to fully get past that.
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:10.320
You know what I mean?
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:14.800
Yeah, because you've like physically abused my sister in a way.
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:20.400
Would you have me in your life, or would you be like, no, I'm gonna keep my distance?
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.880
You're actually this is like real time shit.
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:30.079
It is.
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:36.800
Well, like because I wouldn't want you to I I wouldn't want to have to like let you go or distance myself from you.
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:38.880
Because dude, I love you.
00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:43.039
So, but that's like this is tricky.
00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:43.920
I know, exactly.
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:45.519
This is the ethics of the drama.
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:50.639
Okay, I'll let you sit on it.
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:52.079
Give me one for you.
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.440
Like if I gave you the same if I if I gave you the same if I punched your sister.
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.159
Yeah.
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:09.679
Why?
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:12.559
Why would you punch my sister?
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:14.159
What's the reason?
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:36.480
Something like like you in the same situation that it was like ethically like say if like say like I punched your sister and she was about to do something really stupid, so I was like punching her.
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:40.480
Actually, I already know the answer to that.
00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:45.440
What's a r what's a really like on the fence reason to punch someone?
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:59.119
Say say your sister got like really, really drunk and she was like coming at me and I out of self-defense, I had to I had to punch her.
00:39:59.280 --> 00:39:59.599
Yeah.
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:01.760
But like I punched her up real bad.
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:10.239
Well, like, if it's in if it's if it's self-defense, that can be forgivable.
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:12.639
I would be aware of 40 minutes.
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:21.440
Hey, I would like if you like self-defenced and then like kept going and just kind of beating into her, yeah, I'd be aware of that.
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:25.039
I would understand that it came from a place of self-defense, so I would be more forgiving.
00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:28.400
Everything is truly like the reason or why it's the why.
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:31.519
It's so about the why, and it's so about the circumstance.
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:36.880
Yeah, you know, because if you just punched my sister for no reason, I'd be like, what the fuck?
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:39.440
Yeah, like I would be concerned for you.
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.280
I would just be like, hey, are you okay?
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:41.840
Yeah.
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:42.639
That's the thing.
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:46.400
I wouldn't, I wouldn't just like bar you out of my life completely.
00:40:46.719 --> 00:40:50.159
I would want to I'd check in on you because that's not you.
00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:51.199
This is true.
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:52.239
That is not you at all.
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:53.920
So I'd be like, Emma, what's going on?
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:54.320
Yeah.
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:59.199
And I would want to be there, be by your side to help you come back to your true self.
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:00.079
Truth.
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:01.920
Because that's what friendship's all about.
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:02.639
It's truth.
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:04.079
You know what I mean?
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.199
Yeah, so tricky.
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:20.800
Or even like it's so dependent on the situation and what the circumstances are and the context of like when someone's done something bad in their past, but you know them now, and the person that you know of now is not that person that you know of.
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:21.599
Yeah.
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:27.760
It's like at that point, do you I was having this conversation with Sion of the Drama.
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:36.480
We were like, can you forgive someone because of something they've done in their past, assuming that the person they are right now is not that person anymore?
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.880
Or like what's your relationship to trust?
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:46.880
Because I feel like in my eyes, I feel like I will trust you until you do wrong by me.
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:47.679
Yeah.
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:55.920
And like if you're so if you're open and willing to be like, this is my past, this is what happened, I own that shit.
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:56.480
Yeah.
00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.239
That's not who I am anymore, and I'd like to be not that person, then I'd be like, cool.
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:01.199
Yeah, I respect that.
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.400
But until you prove me wrong, yeah, then I would be like, Yeah.
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:07.760
Oh, yeah.
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:08.880
What's going on?
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:09.440
Yeah.
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:22.559
Because I feel like it's that thing of like, it's like me and Michelle, my girlfriend, have had, because there's been like obviously like people people cheat on each other, which sucks.
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.239
Like, don't cheat.
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:30.079
But like we've had the conversation about like what would you do, like, like Shots asked me, like, what would you do if I cheated on you?
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:38.480
Like if I cheated on you and like we were broken up for forever, would you be able to like get back with me or like try to be with me again?
00:42:38.559 --> 00:42:38.960
Mm-hmm.
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:44.000
And like to for me, I would be like, no.
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:45.280
I don't think I could either.
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.039
Because like done it once.
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:57.360
Because with with the relationship we have, we've agreed for like an ex not like an e it's like just like it like cheating would be like a complete betrayal.
00:42:57.519 --> 00:42:59.519
It would be a complete break of trust.
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:11.440
And obviously, like I would want to hope that you would never do that to someone else again, but I would not be able to trust you in the same way ever again.
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:12.559
You know what I mean?
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:13.039
Yeah.
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:21.199
Like that would be like I would not be able to get back into a relationship or try like be in a relationship with her again.
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:21.760
Yeah.
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.440
Because it would just be a it would I would not be able to fully trust, you know.
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:26.239
Agree.
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:28.880
But then there's also like forgiveness.
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:29.840
People do change.
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:33.039
But also like I don't know.
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:39.599
Yeah, because that's the thing, like, so like if she if she proves that she's like never done that ever again, like that's cool.
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:40.960
I'm so happy I'm so happy for her.
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:45.760
So happy for her, but you did it to me, and therefore I cannot be a part of that again.
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:53.280
Like my friend Isabel Robert said to me, which I never heard before, a cheater never fuck, what was it?
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.760
A cheater doesn't change its spots or something?
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:56.400
What is it?
00:43:56.639 --> 00:44:02.159
A cheetah A cheater doesn't change a cheater.
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:08.320
A cheater doesn't change it move change his spots.
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:09.920
I don't know.
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:11.599
Sorry about that?
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.280
Sorry, I'm really booktureing it.
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:13.920
That's okay.
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.400
Well, I've always said once a cheater, always a cheater.
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:20.079
Is that your dog still?
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:20.480
Hmm?
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:21.519
Is that your dog still?
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:23.440
No, I think Sean's come home from school.
00:44:24.639 --> 00:44:26.000
Don't shoot her.
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:26.559
No.
00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:29.280
No! Stop it.
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.239
Anyway, with that, we probably should wrap up this episode.
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:32.480
Yeah.
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:33.519
Don't really know what that went.
00:44:33.840 --> 00:44:35.039
We did a good whole 45.
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:35.679
Wow, that's great.
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:36.320
That's pretty great.
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:38.159
What question should we finish on?
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.000
What do we want to leave?
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:43.760
Um I did the last one, you do this one.
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:44.159
Yeah.
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:49.119
Maybe like what like what would it take?
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:55.039
Like it think back from your scenario, what would it take you're like someone really close to you or your like your best friend?
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:57.039
Think about your best friend if you have one.
00:44:57.199 --> 00:45:02.719
Or like someone close to you like that, if you're really close with like your parents or like a loved one like that.
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:09.760
What would it take for you to be like, ooh, I'm a step back?
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:11.679
What would it take for them to do?
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:13.199
Let us know in the comments below.
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:18.719
Thank you so much for you know what we need to do?
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:19.119
What?
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:21.039
We need to record like a theme song.
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:22.159
Yeah, we do.
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:22.800
Yeah.
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:26.719
Or like we have all just each episode is a musical song.
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:28.400
Can be the musical effects.
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.000
That time of year and seven, it's a mega.
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:43.760
I love how we made it like a there's there's such a whole context to this.
00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:47.039
But the fact that it's a sphere, I think that's hilarious.
00:45:48.559 --> 00:45:49.920
Why did we like trap them?
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.639
Are we were we trapped?
00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:55.280
Do anything with a sphere?
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:57.280
That lyric might need to change.
00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:57.760
Yeah.
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:00.800
Dad is smashing beers while we play poker.
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:07.119
Poker jumping pillows or have a soak or we jumping pillow mini pool?
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:07.840
Mini pool.
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:08.719
Mini pillows.
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:10.079
Jumping pillows.
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:12.159
Have a soak.
00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.519
Oh we could sit on the table watching nothing to do.
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:20.639
But at least I'm here with you.
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:22.320
Was that it?
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:22.719
I don't know.
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:23.519
You just added that.
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.840
I think I think that's back.
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:30.000
But with that, we say a goodbye.
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:31.920
We art thou part.
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:33.760
Is that how you want?
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:35.119
Art thou part, that's it.
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:36.000
Out thou part.
00:46:36.320 --> 00:46:37.599
It's not, but we'll stick with it.
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:37.760
Yeah.
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:39.679
Out thou part, out of the part part.
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:43.119
That has been the Fugler Shoe Bat Podcast Episode 2.
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:53.039
Oh my god.
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:54.719
You're giving that away for free.
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:55.599
Blur it out.
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:56.400
Can you blur it out?
00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:57.199
I can blur it out.
00:46:57.280 --> 00:46:58.239
I'll just blur out that corner.
00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:59.599
I'll just blur the whole thing.
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:02.480
We won't need to, because no one's watching.
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:04.719
No one's watching this! No one.
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:05.679
Anyway, bye.
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.000
They're all gonna be there for episode three, but not for this one.
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:08.800
Alright.
00:47:09.039 --> 00:47:09.599
Peace it out.
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:10.400
Peace out, y'all.
00:47:10.639 --> 00:47:10.960
Goodbye.
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:13.519
The shoe bad podcast.
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:15.920
The shoe bad shoe bad, the shoe bad.
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Yeah.
